[Gimp-user] mimicking gnome desktop feature

2002-10-29 Thread Mark Drummond
Hi all,

The gnome desktop background config widget lets you (used to let you? 
I don't see it in my gnome control center any more) take an image and 
blend it into your background with a hammered out look. Sorry, I 
cannot explain it better.

I want to mimic that effect with the gimp. I have a desktop background 
  and I would like to blend a photo into the background. The idea is 
for the photo to have that hammered out (like an image made of 
hammered out copper) look using the existing background color.

Any ideas?

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RE: [Gimp-user] mimicking gnome desktop feature

2002-10-29 Thread Cruz, John J
Is the same as right clicking on the mouse to change the image?
john

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Hi all,

The gnome desktop background config widget lets you (used to let you? 
I don't see it in my gnome control center any more) take an image and 
blend it into your background with a hammered out look. Sorry, I 
cannot explain it better.

I want to mimic that effect with the gimp. I have a desktop background 
   and I would like to blend a photo into the background. The idea is 
for the photo to have that hammered out (like an image made of 
hammered out copper) look using the existing background color.

Any ideas?

-- 
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Technical Specialist
STANTIVE Solutions Inc. - Kingston, ON, Canada
Sun Microsystems Independent Sales Organization (ISO)

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[Gimp-user] Re: mimicking gnome desktop feature

2002-10-29 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-10-29 at 1403.22 -0500):
 I want to mimic that effect with the gimp. I have a desktop background 
and I would like to blend a photo into the background. The idea is 
 for the photo to have that hammered out (like an image made of 
 hammered out copper) look using the existing background color.

Try bumpmap or lightining effects (this last one is a pain).

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] mimicking gnome desktop feature

2002-10-29 Thread Mark Drummond
Nope. Maybe I can explain better. I created a desktop wallpaper for 
myself using the gimp. It is saved as an xcf file for further editing, 
and as a jpg for actual use.

The machine I am doing this on is a Sun box using CDE. I use xv to set 
the desktop wallpaper.

I want to make an addition to the wallpaper I created. Specifically, I 
want to take a photographic image and incorporate it into the 
wallpaper. That is easy enough, just add a layer to my xcf file with 
the photo in it, but it is the particular visual effect I want that 
has me lost.

The effect I want is that of hammered out metal. You may have seen 
artistic works made of hammered out copper sheeting. That is the 
effect I want (but using the color of my wallpaper) which visually 
gives you a hammered out 3 dimensional view of the photograph.

Mark

Cruz, John J wrote:
Is the same as right clicking on the mouse to change the image?
john

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drummond [mailto:mark.drummond;sun.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Gimp-user] mimicking gnome desktop feature


Hi all,

The gnome desktop background config widget lets you (used to let you? 
I don't see it in my gnome control center any more) take an image and 
blend it into your background with a hammered out look. Sorry, I 
cannot explain it better.

I want to mimic that effect with the gimp. I have a desktop background 
   and I would like to blend a photo into the background. The idea is 
for the photo to have that hammered out (like an image made of 
hammered out copper) look using the existing background color.

Any ideas?


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[Gimp-user] Re: Unusual font

2002-10-29 Thread Guillermo S. Romero / Familia Romero
Seems the reply got lost somewhere.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2002-10-25 at 2109.22 -0600):
 My husband does all the technical stuff for me, but we do have a font
 called Keystroke that came with Corel draw. There is another one
 called Keycaps. You might do a search and find a source for it.
  In one of my previous installations of Gimp there was a font in which
  each glyph looked like a keyboard key with a letter on it. Is was
  intended no doubt for computer manuals and such. 
  Does anyone remember the font, and have a current source of supply?

Judy gave me an idea:
xlsfonts | grep -i key
-freefont-davysbigkeycaps-normal-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1

Maybe what you are missing is the freefonts and sharefonts packs, they
are in the GIMP FTP.

GSR
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] mimicking gnome desktop feature

2002-10-29 Thread Mark Drummond
Excuse me while I slap myself ... must need more coffee. The effect I 
was looking for was embossing.

Mark Drummond wrote:
Nope. Maybe I can explain better. I created a desktop wallpaper for 
myself using the gimp. It is saved as an xcf file for further editing, 
and as a jpg for actual use.

The machine I am doing this on is a Sun box using CDE. I use xv to set 
the desktop wallpaper.

I want to make an addition to the wallpaper I created. Specifically, I 
want to take a photographic image and incorporate it into the wallpaper. 
That is easy enough, just add a layer to my xcf file with the photo in 
it, but it is the particular visual effect I want that has me lost.

The effect I want is that of hammered out metal. You may have seen 
artistic works made of hammered out copper sheeting. That is the effect 
I want (but using the color of my wallpaper) which visually gives you a 
hammered out 3 dimensional view of the photograph.

Mark

Cruz, John J wrote:

Is the same as right clicking on the mouse to change the image?
john

-Original Message-
From: Mark Drummond [mailto:mark.drummond;sun.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Gimp-user] mimicking gnome desktop feature


Hi all,

The gnome desktop background config widget lets you (used to let you? 
I don't see it in my gnome control center any more) take an image and 
blend it into your background with a hammered out look. Sorry, I 
cannot explain it better.

I want to mimic that effect with the gimp. I have a desktop background 
   and I would like to blend a photo into the background. The idea is 
for the photo to have that hammered out (like an image made of 
hammered out copper) look using the existing background color.

Any ideas?




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[Gimp-user] building gimp in solaris

2002-10-29 Thread Louis Rayman
Hello,

I'm trying to build gimp 1.3.9 on solaris 5.8

I've already built gtk+ 2.0.6 and its sub-libs, they are installed in a 
non-standard location, pointed to by $USRLOC

I'm running the gimp configure like this:
$ CPPFLAGS=-I$USRLOC/include LDFLAGS=-L$USRLOC/lib ./configure --prefix=$USRLOC

the output complains that it can't find gnome-config:

...
found xgettext program is not GNU xgettext; ignore it
checking for catalogs to be installed...  ca cs da de el en_GB es fi fr ga 
gl hu hr it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ro ru sk sv tr uk zh_CN zh_TW
checking for pkg-config... /local/u1/work/usrlocal/bin/pkg-config
checking for GLIB - version = 2.0.0... yes (version 2.0.6)
checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... no
checking for X... libraries /usr/openwin/lib, headers /usr/openwin/include
checking whether -R must be followed by a space... no
checking for gethostbyname... no
checking for gethostbyname in -lnsl... yes
checking for connect... no
checking for connect in -lsocket... yes
checking for remove... yes
checking for shmat... yes
checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
checking for pkg-config... (cached) /local/u1/work/usrlocal/bin/pkg-config
checking for GTK+ - version = 2.0.0... sh: gnome-config: not found
sh: gnome-config: not found
no
*** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
*** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log for the
*** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly installed.
configure: error: Test for GTK failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.

what am I doing wrong?

I'm attaching the config.log (compressed)

thanks!!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and CMYK DTP

2002-10-29 Thread Patrick
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 09:23, John Culleton wrote:
 On Tuesday 29 October 2002 01:50 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I want to use Gimp for work on photo files(.tiff) and I have a
  question what about CMYK mode in Gimp ? How  can I make me sure
  that my photo will be good when it will be printed in magazine ? I
  want to give my work to a profesional print office and they say :
  You must work in CMYK mode( like in Photoshop) or have a CMYK
  preview. How can it be done in Gimp ? Please, help me
  APU
 
 
 --

 You can't, and this is the major shortcoming of Gimp. It is possible
 to convert to CMYK at the end of the process, but given the
 difference in gamut between the RGB and CMYK versions of the same
 image the quality of the result can be best described as uncertain.
 In an earlier post I discussed the program pnmtotiffcmyk which will
 indeed create a cmyk version of the file. However the colors do
 shift. This is especially problematic in photos of people involving
 flesh tones.

 The Gimp manual addresses this issue in chapter 13.

 John Culleton
 Able Indexers and Typesetters, Rowse Reviews, Culleton Editorial
 Services
 http://wexfordpress.com
===

We might also mention that this the fault of Adobe and not the Gimp 
programmers.  I believe Adobe owns the right to this process and has 
been very reluctant to release any rights to it.  I think the Gimp 
programmers or others have tried and continue to work on ways around 
this limitation as John pointed out here.  Although Gimp doesn't 
provide the simplest process of doing CMYK, it can do it in most 
respects.  Like the old saying though, you kinda have to go around the 
elbow to get to the hand.  :o)

Hopefully a solution to the CMYK seperation problem will be forthcoming 
in a later version of Gimp, because that seems to be it's only weak 
point at the moment for most professional users.

Patrick
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and CMYK DTP

2002-10-29 Thread David Burren
On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:13:55 CDT, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hopefully a solution to the CMYK seperation problem will be forthcoming 
 in a later version of Gimp, because that seems to be it's only weak 
 point at the moment for most professional users.

Speak for yourself.  For me, Gimp's major shortcomings are lack of
proper colourspace management and inability to work on 16-bit (per
R,G,B) images (sure you can read 16-bit TIFFs, but the extra data is
thrown away).

As a working photographer, these things give me the most pain.  I'm sure
there are other features (or lack thereof) which give other people pain
apart from the lack of good CMYK support.

Not to say that CMYK doesn't deserve attention, just to note that it's
not the Gimp's only weak point.
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Re: [Gimp-user] building gimp in solaris

2002-10-29 Thread Kevin Myers
I believe the problem is that pkg-config can't find your gtk+.  The
gnome-config message is just a side affect.  One way to solve this problem
is to set a PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable pointing to the pkgconfig
sugdirectories of each package that pkg-config will be used for.  Below are
some lines from a script that I used for building the gimp under Windows.  I
think you probably need something similar, but with your own solaris paths
instead of my Windows paths.  Perhaps there is some better/alternative way
to solve this problem, but that's how I handled it.

s/KAM


export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=\
D:\\source\\gettext-dev-0.10.40-20020904\\lib\\pkgconfig\;\
D:\\source\\glib-dev-2.0.6-20020802\\lib\\pkgconfig\;\
D:\\source\\gtk+-dev-1.3.0-20020912\\lib\\pkgconfig
echo PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$PKG_CONFIG_PATH



- Original Message -
From: Louis Rayman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 1:54 PM
Subject: [Gimp-user] building gimp in solaris


 Hello,

 I'm trying to build gimp 1.3.9 on solaris 5.8

 I've already built gtk+ 2.0.6 and its sub-libs, they are installed in a
 non-standard location, pointed to by $USRLOC

 I'm running the gimp configure like this:
 $ CPPFLAGS=-I$USRLOC/include LDFLAGS=-L$USRLOC/lib
./configure --prefix=$USRLOC

 the output complains that it can't find gnome-config:

 ...
 found xgettext program is not GNU xgettext; ignore it
 checking for catalogs to be installed...  ca cs da de el en_GB es fi fr ga
 gl hu hr it ja ko nl no pl pt pt_BR ro ru sk sv tr uk zh_CN zh_TW
 checking for pkg-config... /local/u1/work/usrlocal/bin/pkg-config
 checking for GLIB - version = 2.0.0... yes (version 2.0.6)
 checking for bind_textdomain_codeset... no
 checking for X... libraries /usr/openwin/lib, headers /usr/openwin/include
 checking whether -R must be followed by a space... no
 checking for gethostbyname... no
 checking for gethostbyname in -lnsl... yes
 checking for connect... no
 checking for connect in -lsocket... yes
 checking for remove... yes
 checking for shmat... yes
 checking for IceConnectionNumber in -lICE... yes
 checking for pkg-config... (cached) /local/u1/work/usrlocal/bin/pkg-config
 checking for GTK+ - version = 2.0.0... sh: gnome-config: not found
 sh: gnome-config: not found
 no
 *** Could not run GTK+ test program, checking why...
 *** The test program failed to compile or link. See the file config.log
for the
 *** exact error that occured. This usually means GTK+ is incorrectly
installed.
 configure: error: Test for GTK failed. See the file 'INSTALL' for help.

 what am I doing wrong?

 I'm attaching the config.log (compressed)

 thanks!!

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and CMYK DTP

2002-10-29 Thread Patrick
On Tuesday 29 October 2002 17:46, David Burren wrote:
 On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:13:55 CDT, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
  Hopefully a solution to the CMYK seperation problem will be
  forthcoming in a later version of Gimp, because that seems to be
  it's only weak point at the moment for most professional users.

 Speak for yourself.  For me, Gimp's major shortcomings are lack of
 proper colourspace management and inability to work on 16-bit (per
 R,G,B) images (sure you can read 16-bit TIFFs, but the extra data is
 thrown away).

 As a working photographer, these things give me the most pain.  I'm
 sure there are other features (or lack thereof) which give other
 people pain apart from the lack of good CMYK support.

 Not to say that CMYK doesn't deserve attention, just to note that
 it's not the Gimp's only weak point.
 __
 David Burren
==

Thanks David,
I was pretty sure it had some other weak points too, but I am not 
familar with all of them yet.  It seemed like CMYK was one that was 
complained about a lot, so I gathered it was one of the biggies 
everyone would like to have fixed.  Gimp is always a work in progress 
and with the ability to program scripts and the work of the programmers 
it continues to grow and get better.  Usually too there are workarounds 
for most all of it's shortcomings.  For the cost, it is an excellent 
choice for doing any type of artwork, don't you think?  ;o)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and CMYK DTP

2002-10-29 Thread Kevin Myers
Let me add that the gimp is an extremely useful tool for a lot more than
just artwork.  I am using it for technical documents, aerial photos, and
document archival applications...  It has a few weak points in those areas
too, but I'm working on some of 'em...  :-)

s/KAM


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From: Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp and CMYK DTP


On Tuesday 29 October 2002 17:46, David Burren wrote:
 On Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:13:55 CDT, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Hopefully a solution to the CMYK seperation problem will be
  forthcoming in a later version of Gimp, because that seems to be
  it's only weak point at the moment for most professional users.

 Speak for yourself.  For me, Gimp's major shortcomings are lack of
 proper colourspace management and inability to work on 16-bit (per
 R,G,B) images (sure you can read 16-bit TIFFs, but the extra data is
 thrown away).

 As a working photographer, these things give me the most pain.  I'm
 sure there are other features (or lack thereof) which give other
 people pain apart from the lack of good CMYK support.

 Not to say that CMYK doesn't deserve attention, just to note that
 it's not the Gimp's only weak point.
 __
 David Burren
==

Thanks David,
I was pretty sure it had some other weak points too, but I am not
familar with all of them yet.  It seemed like CMYK was one that was
complained about a lot, so I gathered it was one of the biggies
everyone would like to have fixed.  Gimp is always a work in progress
and with the ability to program scripts and the work of the programmers
it continues to grow and get better.  Usually too there are workarounds
for most all of it's shortcomings.  For the cost, it is an excellent
choice for doing any type of artwork, don't you think?  ;o)

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[Gimp-user] Printing with the Gimp 1.2.3

2002-10-29 Thread Vittorio
It all works but I don't understand..

Under debian woody I have the gimp 1.2 and gimp-print. I've set my
Epson 640 printer as my default printer by means of magicfilter
according to the following scheme:

1) lp is 360 dpi
2) lp720 is 720x720 dpi
3) lp1440 is 1440x720 dpi

Now, using the print command under the gimp I have (tentatively)
selected in 'setup printer' the epson 640 as my printer, and lp as my
printer name.

It works! But I find it all a bit confusing

I mean I've chosen lp (which is 360 dpi to me) and I've selected other
resolutions than the 1). Then why should I tell the Gimp what my
printer is? Isn't already selected by magicfilter? Shouldn't be enough
to select printer name only (either lp, or lp720 or lp1440)?

Is there anyone out there able to explain the basic of printing with
the gimp?

Ciao
Vittorio

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