Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book
On Aug 24, 2007, at 11:22 AM, Raphaël Quinet wrote: On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 10:48:01 -0400, Michael Hernandez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 23, 2007, at 2:08 PM, Greg wrote: Speaking of books, I have Beginning Gimp, which was published in '06 but says it includes material on the latest 2.4 release Wha? Actually that book was written based on a development snapshot of GIMP. I find it to be a very useful book IMHO. I'm not sure how relevant it will continue to be though, based on the fact that the author really seems to have jumped the gun in regards to the GIMP 2.4 release. [...] Many users and developers were hoping for GIMP 2.4 to be released around the end of summer last year. Alas, that didn't happen because it took a long time to fix some nasty bugs, then it was decided to include some new features because the release was not ready anyway, then more bugs popped in, then it also took a while to fix them, then even more features were added, even more bugs were discovered and fixed, and so on... It is not surprising that the authors of some books were hoping for 2.4 to be released earlier. Maybe they were a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn't blame them for that. Now that we already have the first release candidate with lots of nice features (and a few bugs that have already been fixed), we are finally getting very close to the official release of GIMP 2.4. That is great news! Now I just hope it hasn't changed so much that my nice full color gloss beginning GIMP book is full of lies! :) --Mike H ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book
Michael Hernandez wrote: That is great news! Now I just hope it hasn't changed so much that my nice full color gloss beginning GIMP book is full of lies! :) Its more likely a plot by the publishing house to sell more books when you release the second edition which covers the real GIMP 2.4 release. ;-) -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/ |What are we going to do today, Borg? Owner of Elecraft K2 #2172 |Same thing we always do, Pinkutus: | Try to assimilate the world! #include disclaimer/favourite | -Pinkutus the Borg ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book - What GIMP version does it cover?
Hi Dotan, Hi Gimp-user, A friend sent me a link to a new GIMP book, The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects to be published this month. There was a reference to it in the Javascript book he was reading from the same publisher. The sample tutorial looked good. http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=gimp Just thought I'd pass it on. DC Very nice, the sample chapters were amazing. This seems to be written DC for Gimp 2.2, but 2.4 will have significant changes. Can you (or the DC author) address that issue? That's a good question. I don't have the specific answer. The searching I did on the web site and amazon, didn't seem to come right out and say it. The Table of Contents starts out with, Looking Ahead to GIMP 2.4. It is being published this year. Hhhmmm... Perhaps we can get a response from the list. Thank you. PS: I think your message only came to me and not the list, so in my reply I made sure the To: address was Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU. -- __ DJ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 05:12:39 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote: Very nice, the sample chapters were amazing. This seems to be written for Gimp 2.2, but 2.4 will have significant changes. Can you (or the author) address that issue? The first part of the introduction in the book covers this. It took 2 1/3 years to get the book published, so starting with 2.2 seemed reasonable at the time. Also, it will be some time before all the major distributions get updated to the requirements for 2.4 and have those distributions propogated to the general public. So even though 2.4 is due soon, 2.2 isn't disappearing soon from a great many users desktops. In the end, though, the changes for 2.4 don't greatly affect the tutorials. Mostly what changes is the location of menu options, which I believe I've addressed in the book but will update on the web site as I become aware of the errata. New features in 2.4 are not used in the tutorials (it's a 2.2 based text, after all) and none of the old features used in the tutorials went away. Mostly those features just changed slightly in appearance or work better under the hood in 2.4. If you're interested in dicussing the book or issues related to the GIMP, I set up a web site for the book: http://www.graphics-muse.org/artistsguide/ The book should just about be ready for shipping from retailers. I was just notified that my author copies will be sent soon. -- Michael J. HammelSenior Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://graphics-muse.org -- Intaxication: Euphoria at getting a tax refund, which lasts until you realize it was your money to start with. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book
On 23/08/07, Michael J. Hammel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you're interested in dicussing the book or issues related to the GIMP, I set up a web site for the book: http://www.graphics-muse.org/artistsguide/ That site looks like an unofficial blog- it does not due justice to the sample chapters that I saw. It makes me think that the book is as cheap as the website. Change it, quick! Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] A GIMP book
Hi Gimp-user, A friend sent me a link to a new GIMP book, The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects to be published this month. There was a reference to it in the Javascript book he was reading from the same publisher. The sample tutorial looked good. http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=gimp Just thought I'd pass it on. -- __ DJ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book
Been waiting for this one, thanks! On 8/22/07, DJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gimp-user, A friend sent me a link to a new GIMP book, The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects to be published this month. There was a reference to it in the Javascript book he was reading from the same publisher. The sample tutorial looked good. http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=gimp Just thought I'd pass it on. -- __ DJ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Anthony Ettinger Ph: 408-656-2473 var (bonita, farley) = new Dog; farley.barks(very loud); bonita.barks(at strangers); http://chovy.dyndns.org/resume.html http://utuxia.com/consulting ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] A GIMP book
On 22/08/07, DJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gimp-user, A friend sent me a link to a new GIMP book, The Artist's Guide to GIMP Effects to be published this month. There was a reference to it in the Javascript book he was reading from the same publisher. The sample tutorial looked good. http://nostarch.com/frameset.php?startat=gimp Just thought I'd pass it on. Very nice, the sample chapters were amazing. This seems to be written for Gimp 2.2, but 2.4 will have significant changes. Can you (or the author) address that issue? Dotan Cohen http://lyricslist.com/ http://what-is-what.com/ ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] new Gimp book, about time
In the process of learning Gimp (ongoing project), I've wondered about the absence of books dedicated to it, at least since 2001 or thereabouts. I am therefore intrigued to (finally) see a new title, now preannounced on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590595874/104-2820490-0282337 Humorous aside As a suggested purchase, Amazon pairs it with O'Reilly's Pocket Reference (2000), documenting Gimp 1.2 / Yes, I realize the author actively participates in this ML. Though I realize there are many useful tutorials around, a well-written, well-edited manual and reference work will be very useful, and I look forward to seeing this work when it appears in April. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] new Gimp book, about time
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 12:11, Colin Brace wrote: In the process of learning Gimp (ongoing project), I've wondered about the absence of books dedicated to it, at least since 2001 or thereabouts. I am therefore intrigued to (finally) see a new title, now preannounced on Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1590595874/104-2820490-0282337 Humorous aside As a suggested purchase, Amazon pairs it with O'Reilly's Pocket Reference (2000), documenting Gimp 1.2 / Yes, I realize the author actively participates in this ML. Though I realize there are many useful tutorials around, a well-written, well-edited manual and reference work will be very useful, and I look forward to seeing this work when it appears in April. -- Colin Brace Amsterdam Gimp is a moving target. An author of a 500 page book has to pick a version or versions and write around those. On this list many/most are not so much concerned with installation problems but keeping up with the changes in the user interface and also new features such as possible embryonic CMYK capabilities. So I would be interested in a book built around some recent version, if not 2.4 then at least 2.3xx. If someone comes up with a book that is smaller, cheaper and more up to date I will buy it. -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] new Gimp book, about time
Hi, Colin Brace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Though I realize there are many useful tutorials around I hope you are also aware of the GIMP user manual which is hosted at http://docs.gimp.org/. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] new Gimp book, about time
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 12:32, Sven Neumann wrote: Hi, Colin Brace [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Though I realize there are many useful tutorials around I hope you are also aware of the GIMP user manual which is hosted at http://docs.gimp.org/. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user It is available in pdf form which is a big help. I am probably going to print out the main portion. Three questions: 1.There is no index in the pdf copy. Is one available elsehere? 2. The current edition is dated December and is current as of 2.2.x apparently. That is excellent. Now, is there any indication of when a 2.4 based version would be available? In other words if 2.4 came out in, say, March 2006 in what month would an updated manual be expected? 3. I still have in a ring binder the 900 plus page manual written by Karin and Olof Kylander. Is the current manual related to that manual or are they separate publications? -- John Culleton Books with answers to marketing and publishing questions: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/shortlist.pdf Book coaches, consultants and packagers: http://wexfordpress.com/tex/packagers.pdf ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] new Gimp book, about time
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 04:28 pm, John R. Culleton wrote: It is available in pdf form which is a big help. I am probably going to print out the main portion. Three questions: 1.There is no index in the pdf copy. Is one available elsehere? I don't know. The PDF build proccess should generate one. Ifit does nto this must be reported as a bug oto the documentation document 2. The current edition is dated December and is current as of 2.2.x apparently. That is excellent. Now, is there any indication of when a 2.4 based version would be available? In other words if 2.4 came out in, say, March 2006 in what month would an updated manual be expected? Bad news here. Currently, all docwriters/translators are working based on the stable version (i.e. 2.2.x) only. That means that work will only begin for 2.4 when it is out, which implies in a gap of a couple months at least for a version covering most new features. 3. I still have in a ring binder the 900 plus page manual written by Karin and Olof Kylander. Is the current manual related to that manual or are they separate publications? AFAIK they are separate publications. JS -- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Publishing Gimp book
I'm not sure that the speed Gimp is developed can stop publisher. Of course they like to have up2date docs but as they think in years, they will usually work on book update when necessary. For those who want to self-publish book, it is easily possible. That's what have been done for [a la] SOS GIMP (http://www.le-radar.com), which is a FGDL book. Translation of it could be done. For people who to test that : a first is an average of 6 month work. Application documentation are very hard to do as they have to be very precise. If Olivier need some help for self publication in France, i can help. I also would like to say that i'm working on a new book. Not a learning one, but an example one, with graphists tips. 3 people are already OK to contribute, but other are welcome. The purpose is to show what good job can be do with free softwares (we know that but not everybody). If self published this book could be under a Free licence. Cedric ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Publishing Gimp book
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry for asking a probably stupid question, but what means self- publishing? Writing and contributing to/with a license that allowes everybody to download a book and to sell the printed version parallel? lexA -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFDHbSLR9mXLVsAbiQRAl6lAJ9Lblw66gLeZJaXQJd9Lbbww0koNQCgphbn 0ndLncHWGzyoFcs6dNzl3X8= =i/8W -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Publishing Gimp book
On 9/6/05, Axel Wernicke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for asking a probably stupid question, but what means self- publishing? Writing and contributing to/with a license that allowes everybody to download a book and to sell the printed version parallel? I think it's *supposed* to mean handling e.g. printing and sales of the book and whatnot by oneself, although I don't know the details. That said, e-books are always quite nice. Have you ever heard of Creative Commons (creativecommons.org)? ^^ -- ~Mike - Just my two cents - No man is an island, and no man is unable. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Publishing Gimp book
Sorry for asking a probably stupid question, but what means self- publishing? Writing and contributing to/with a license that allowes everybody to download a book and to sell the printed version parallel? Self-publishing simply means that the author is the publisher. This can be for any kind of book. I personally self-publish a GFDL book, and can provide guidance for anyone wanting to do something similar. Open licenses means that micro-publishers (which include self-publishers) can publish books that they have not paid to write. Technically, anyone could download my book and publish it on their own. In fact, I believe that is actually happening for translations. Most people do not because it would be a waste of time to simply re-publish under another title what someone else is already the de facto seller of. If anyone is interested in my book, see: http://www.cafeshops.com/bartlettpublish.8640017 If anyone would like assistance self-publishing, you can email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
