Re: [Gimp-user] align selection

2004-12-11 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 00:30:34 -0200, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 10 December 2004 14:52, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 
 
  On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 01:37:56 -0200, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On Friday 10 December 2004 00:43, Gert Cuykens wrote:
can you align a selection to the current layer ?
  
   Use a guide to do this.
   (click on a ruler, and drag it until it is in your layer's
   boundary. Them, the seleciton  will snap to the guide)
  
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  where do i find the ruler ?
 
 Ruler is the name to design the distance marks on the margin of each
 image window. By clicking and draging from there you add the snapping
 guides to the image.
 
 
 
  also is it possible to make the selection move around while your
  mouse is in the exact middle of the selection ?
 
 Sorry, I ddi not understand what you want. Of course you can select
 the move tool, and click on the middle of the selection - but youhave
 to find the midle of the selection by looiking at the status-bar
 coordinates.
 
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doh! i understand now. Me was looking for a guide button or tool but
the ruler it self was the guide button lol :)

works great thx :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:09:29 +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  http://docs.gimp.org/en/go01.html
 
  yep looks very nice except it need some more words for example hue
  only shows two pictures. Can someone at the circle comment to the
  documentation please.
 
 If you think the docs need improvements, feel free to join the
 gimp-docs team. The manual is in CVS (module gimp-help-2) and there's
 a mailing-list (gimp-docs).
 
 
 Sven
 

ok i will subscribe to the gimp-docs list then
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Re: [Gimp-user] Applying same filter on muliple pics simultaneously

2004-12-11 Thread Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris
On Saturday 11 December 2004 09:10, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 Krishnendu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I am a new user of GIMP and I use it mainly to sharpen
  the pics taken with my digicam. I usually initially
  use the unsharp mask (with same settings) for all the
  pictures.
 
  While doing so I have to apply the same filter to all
  the pictures individually.
 
  I was wondering whether there is any way to apply the
  filter simultaneously to all my pictures.

 Not simultanously but using a small script you can apply the same
 effect to a list of images.



Actually, easier than making a script in this case -
since dig. pictores usually come numbered in order, you coul d try 
GIMP-GAP (Gimp Animation Package).

It adds a 'video' menu where you can treat each image in a numbered 
sequence as  a 'frame' of a video, and there are ways to filter a 
range of 'frames'.]


Regards,
Joao

 Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Testimonials of GIMP usage by professionals

2004-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 i don't know ? gmail does all the quoting for me :)

gmail sucks then. Please choose a mail application that allows you to
follow the simple rules that make all our lifes easier.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Testimonials of GIMP usage by professionals

2004-12-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-11-04 08:08]:
 i don't know ? gmail does all the quoting for me :)

Yes, it quotes *everything* and *you* are _expected_ to delete that
which is not necessary and/or pertinent.

  http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
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Re: [Gimp-user] Applying same filter on muliple pics simultaneously

2004-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was wondering whether there is any way to apply the
 filter simultaneously to all my pictures.

 Not simultanously but using a small script you can apply the same
 effect to a list of images.

I guess it would help if I posted such a script here. The batch
capabilities of GIMP could definitely be documented better. If someone
would want to contribute a tutorial for batch processing using GIMP
2.2, we would be happy to add it to www.gimp.org.

OK, here's the script. It doesn't register any menu entry and can thus
only be run from the command-line or the Script-Fu console. It would
be easy to let it register in the menus, but I thought I should keep
it as simple as possible:


;; batch-unsharp-mask  --  apply unsharp-mask on a set of files
;; simple batch script for GIMP 2.2
;;
;; call it from the command-line using a line like the following:
;; gimp -i -b (batch-unsharp-mask \*.png\ 5.0 0.5 0) (gimp-quit 0)
;;
;; This script uses the file-glob plug-in which is not available in GIMP 2.0.

(define (batch-unsharp-mask pattern
radius
amount
threshold)
  (let* ((filelist (cadr (file-glob pattern 1
(while filelist
   (let* ((filename (car filelist))
  (image (car (gimp-file-load RUN-NONINTERACTIVE
  filename filename)))
  (drawable (car (gimp-image-get-active-layer image
 (plug-in-unsharp-mask RUN-NONINTERACTIVE
   image drawable radius amount threshold)
 (gimp-file-save RUN-NONINTERACTIVE
 image drawable filename filename)
 (gimp-image-delete image))
   (set! filelist (cdr filelist)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Applying same filter on muliple pics simultaneously

2004-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Krishnendu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am a new user of GIMP and I use it mainly to sharpen
 the pics taken with my digicam. I usually initially
 use the unsharp mask (with same settings) for all the
 pictures.

 While doing so I have to apply the same filter to all
 the pictures individually. 

 I was wondering whether there is any way to apply the
 filter simultaneously to all my pictures.

Not simultanously but using a small script you can apply the same
effect to a list of images.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] Cannot compile gimp 2.0.x on RHAT9 -- GTK+2 not found

2004-12-11 Thread Jeffery Cann
Red hat 9 ships with GTK+, version 1.2.10.  Gimp 2.x requires GTK+, version 2.

The gimp installation file notes:

You need to have installed GTK+ version 2.2.2 or better. Do not try
to use an older GTK+ version (1.2.x), it will not work. GTK+-2.x and
friends can be installed side by side with GTK+-1.2.

OK. So I download, compile and install gtk+-2.2.4 into default
location of /usr/local.  Redhat put gtk+ 1.x in another location
(/usr/lib and /usr/share)

When I run the gimp configure program after the GTK+ 2.2.4
installation, I still receive the 'missing gtk+ 2 error':

  checking for GTK+ - version = 2.2.2... no

There appears to be no way to tell gimp's configure script where to
find the GTK+ 2.2.4 version in /usr/local/lib.  If there is, PLEASE
tell me!

The INSTALL file describes how to 'fix' my problem:

* An old version of the GTK+ libraries was found instead of your newly
installed version. This commonly happens if a binary package of GTK+
was previously installed on your system, and you later compiled GTK+
from source.

Fix: remove the old libraries and include files.

So, the INSTALL file contradicts itself by saying that 1)  GTK+ 1 and
2 can coexist, but that 2) I need to remove GTK+1 for configure to
find GTK+2.

It's not a fix remove the GTK+ rpm as there are many dependancies on Red Hat 9.

Does any one have a suggestion to solve this problem?

Thanks
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Re: [Gimp-user] Cannot compile gimp 2.0.x on RHAT9 -- GTK+2 not found

2004-12-11 Thread Michael Schumacher
Jeffery Cann wrote:
There appears to be no way to tell gimp's configure script where to
find the GTK+ 2.2.4 version in /usr/local/lib.  If there is, PLEASE
tell me!
Tell pkg-config where it should find GTK+
So, the INSTALL file contradicts itself by saying that 1)  GTK+ 1 and
2 can coexist, but that 2) I need to remove GTK+1 for configure to
find GTK+2.
Nah, just a bit lack of knowledge on your side ;)
HTH,
Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?

2004-12-11 Thread John Culleton
On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:11, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,

 John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I have downloaded the latest help file. Befor I untar it, where is
  it supposed to go? Or more particularly, where is it supposed to be
  when I untar it?

 Just untar them and read the installation instructions in the file
 INSTALL.

OK the instructions say run ./configure and ./configure fails because it can't 
find a file called gimp-2.0 pc. I searched my disks (several versions of Gimp 
laying around) and no such file exists. The ./configure run also says:
couldn't find a Gimp-2.0 installation. There are about three laying around. 

So, back to my original question. Where should I try to untar the Gimp help 
tarball? I don't want to muck up a functioning Gimp installation by untarring 
them in the wrong location. 

Perhaps I am using the wrong tarball. When you go to the site and look for 
help files all you can find is a directory called test or testing which 
holds about 5 different versions of help files.  I picked out the most recent 
one, 2.05

The best solution of course would be to have the help files integrated with 
the Gimp package itself. That is the way most packages work. Failing that, a 
help tarball in parallel to the current stable version and with explicit 
instructions on installation (i.e. where) would be most helpful. I suppose I 
will have to go to a Knoppix disk and figure out where the help files go from 
its internal structure.  Oh well. 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Cannot compile gimp 2.0.x on RHAT9 -- GTK+2 not found

2004-12-11 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 10:27:02AM -0700, Jeffery Cann wrote:
 
 OK. So I download, compile and install gtk+-2.2.4 into default
 location of /usr/local.  Redhat put gtk+ 1.x in another location
 (/usr/lib and /usr/share)
 
 When I run the gimp configure program after the GTK+ 2.2.4
 installation, I still receive the 'missing gtk+ 2 error':
 
   checking for GTK+ - version = 2.2.2... no
 
 There appears to be no way to tell gimp's configure script where to
 find the GTK+ 2.2.4 version in /usr/local/lib.  If there is, PLEASE
 tell me!
 
this looks like something that can be fixed if you do two things.  maybe
you need to add the path (/usr/local/lib) to ld.config and run
ldconfig.  or it might do the trick to simply download this shell
script from wgo:
http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimpenv
type source gimpenv with the console you are building with.

good luck with redhat 9.  it is slightly old.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?

2004-12-11 Thread Michael Schumacher
Jozsef Mak wrote:
The best solution of course would be to have the help files
integrated with the Gimp package itself. That is the way most
packages work. Failing that, a help tarball in parallel to the
current stable version and with explicit instructions on
installation (i.e. where) would be most helpful. I suppose I will
have to go to a Knoppix disk and figure out where the help files go
from its internal structure. Oh well.
 I also cannot understand the reason behind not integrating the help
 files with Gimp.
At which level would you like to integrate it - source tree, release 
tarball or binary distribution?

Michael
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Re: [Gimp-user] Cannot compile gimp 2.0.x on RHAT9 -- GTK+2 not found

2004-12-11 Thread Jeffery Cann
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Cannot compile gimp 2.0.x on RHAT9 -- GTK+2 not  
 found

 Michael Schumacher wrote:
 Nah, just a bit lack of knowledge on your side ;)

Thanks for clearing it up.  I'm not too experienced with GNOME utils. 
And I see that the .pc files are quite useful.  I was used to the
*old* way where you specified non-standard library paths as parameters
to the configure script.

Anyway, for the record here's what I did:

1.  edit /etc/ld.conf - added /usr/local/lib  - This is where GTK+2
was installed (by default).
2.  set the env variables.  The GTK+ 2 package config file gtk+-2.0.pc
gets installed (by default) to /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig.  So for this
configure script to find it set:

  PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/; export PKG_CONFIG_PATH

Similary, the GTK+ 2 libraries are installed in /usr/local/lib, so set:

  LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib; export LD_LIBRARY_PATH

FYI - I tried editing /etc/ld.conf (adding /usr/local/lib) and then
running /sbin/ldconfig and this didn't work.

I then reran ./configure for gimp 2.0.6 and it worked.

Thanks!
Jeff
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Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?

2004-12-11 Thread Owen Cook

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, John Culleton wrote:

 On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:11, Sven Neumann wrote:
  Hi,
 
  John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I have downloaded the latest help file. Befor I untar it, where is
   it supposed to go? Or more particularly, where is it supposed to be
   when I untar it?
 
  Just untar them and read the installation instructions in the file
  INSTALL.
 
 OK the instructions say run ./configure and ./configure fails because it 
 can't 
 find a file called gimp-2.0 pc. I searched my disks (several versions of Gimp 
 laying around) and no such file exists. The ./configure run also says:
 couldn't find a Gimp-2.0 installation. There are about three laying around. 
 
 So, back to my original question. Where should I try to untar the Gimp help 
 tarball? I don't want to muck up a functioning Gimp installation by untarring 
 them in the wrong location. 

You should have several gimp-2.0.pc files if you have several
installations. You will need to find them. Standard locations would be for
example;

/usr/lib/pkgconfig/gimp-2.0.pc
/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/gimp-2.0.pc
/opt/lib/pkgconfig/gimp-2.0.pc


Determine which gimp you want the help files to be associated with, eg the
one in say /usr/local

Then export your PKG_CONFIG_PATH

export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/

Now check it

pkg-config --modversion gimp-2.0

Then try installing your help



Owen

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Re: [Gimp-user] sript-fu-decor-round corners

2004-12-11 Thread Gert Cuykens
   yes i can choose everything except round corners and slide are greyed out.
 
  These two scripts don't handle images with an alpha channel. You need
  to flatten the image. Or tweak the scripts; it shouldn't be hard to
  make them work on images with alpha channel.
 
 If you'd rather avoid trying to learn script-fu you could probably use the
 Rounded Selection script instead and then do the rest yourself manually.

I just flatten the image when i want to use round corners then it always work :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] cmyk on gimp

2004-12-11 Thread Gerhard Gaussling
Am Mittwoch 08 Dezember 2004 21:21 schrieb Ricardo Cappellano:
 Hello,

 I really need to know how do I work with cmyk on gimp,
 or changes my files from rgb to cmyk.

 All press here works only with cmyk. So, before I send
 my flyers to the press, I have to convert it.

 Is it possible?

Hello Ricardo,

I have tried to post here before, but it didn't work. I hope this one 
comes through.

please have a look here:

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123598
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=123627
http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml  
http://www.gegl.org/TODO.html

HTH

Gerhard
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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 11:33:40PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 who do i ask if they would like to change the word lightness into
 brightness from the gimp gui?

without taking the time to look it up, there is a chance that these
definitions pre-date computers.  much of the imaging language came from
photographic techniques and laboratory color measuring and algorythms
that describe the differences in colors.

i have a similar story.  i wanted to yell at the designer of the XServer
for choosing Red, Green and Blue for the display colors.  my public
schooling thoroughly trained me in Red Yellow and Blue.  i did yell at
him, actually.  he kindly typed back that this RGB thing occured in 1910
or so, about the same time they were inventing sushi and thinking about
having a world war now that the world knew about each other better or
something.  

it is all fairly crazy.  to me, it is a wonder that anything works.

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?

2004-12-11 Thread Jozsef Mak


At which level would you like to integrate it - source tree, release 
tarball or binary distribution?

Michael
This I cannot tell, but when I compiled Inkscape from source all the 
tutorials were in the help file ready to use. They could solve the problem 
somehow.

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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 who do i ask if they would like to change the word lightness into
 brightness from the gimp gui?

You could read up on the differences. A good source is the Color FAQ
maintained by Charles Poynton.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:45:10 -0800, Carol Spears [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 11:33:40PM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 
 
  who do i ask if they would like to change the word lightness into
  brightness from the gimp gui?
 
 without taking the time to look it up, there is a chance that these
 definitions pre-date computers.  much of the imaging language came from
 photographic techniques and laboratory color measuring and algorythms
 that describe the differences in colors.
 
 i have a similar story.  i wanted to yell at the designer of the XServer
 for choosing Red, Green and Blue for the display colors.  my public
 schooling thoroughly trained me in Red Yellow and Blue.  i did yell at
 him, actually.  he kindly typed back that this RGB thing occured in 1910
 or so, about the same time they were inventing sushi and thinking about
 having a world war now that the world knew about each other better or
 something.
 
 it is all fairly crazy.  to me, it is a wonder that anything works.
 
 carol
 
 

i dont mind they call it lightness i just want that they keep the same
logic thats all :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] cmyk on gimp

2004-12-11 Thread Gerhard Gaußling
Am Sonntag 12 Dezember 2004 00:34 schrieb Gerhard Gaussling:
 I have tried to post here before, but it didn't work. I hope this one
 comes through.

Hello again,

ok that worked. Here's the message that I tried to send before (with the 
wrong sender address):

Yes it's possible with lcms and the 'seperate' plugin by Alastair M. 
Robinson blackfive [ a t ] fakenhamweb.co.uk. 
http://www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/separate.shtml
He send me a copy of an improved version for gimp 2.x.

I received a message from the developer of the separate plugin, which 
can be found at the bottom of this message. - Thank you Alastair, for 
your reply, and the improved source!

He attached a new version of that plugin with two new checkboxes in the 
pick the icc profiles for preserve pure black and overprint pure 
black.

It tries to load these default profiles from the scribus default profile 
folder :

! #define DEFAULT_RGB_PROFILE 
/usr/lib/scribus/profiles/AdobeRGB1998.icc
! #define DEFAULT_CMYK_PROFILE 
/usr/lib/scribus/profiles/USWebCoatedSWOP.icc

The rendering intend is according to the source perceptual, which is 
often optimal for photographics ( INTENT_PERCEPTUAL, 0); ), but the 
proof appears to me a little bit too yellowish, so that I thought it 
was rendered with an absolute intend, which also simulate the 
paperwhite.

As a feature-request I would it find helpfull, if one is able to choose 
also the rendering intend, and to preselect a default rendering intent 
(e.g. perceptive renderin intent as the default intend).

Also a detection of embedded profiles while opening an image, and a 
strategies to convert the image into a working colorspace is highly 
appreciate for an integrated colormanagement of the GIMP. 

But I think this will come if the gimp comes with the new rewritten 
engine Gegl -- Generic Graphical Library (http://www.gegl.org/).

The binary oft separate works now for debian SID, too.

Alastair attached a tarball with the source and the linux-binary, which 
I don't want to send to the list. If someone is interested in the 
source, please, let me know. 

Kind regards

Gerhard Gaußling

PS.: I hope I was sufficely able to express myself in English
 
--  forwarded message  --

Subject: Re: appendix Re: HOWTO build and package CMYK separate plugin 
for the GIMP (SID)
Date: Freitag 08 Oktober 2004 20:26
From: Alastair M. Robinson blackfive .a.t. fakenhamweb.co.uk
To: ggrubbish at web.de

Hi Gerhard,

gerhard wrote:
 So I have to compile it from source.

 Alastair, please is it possible to host your project on sourceforge
 to make it easier to develope it by other developer, because you
 mentioned that you got no time to maintain the source?

I'd have no objection to someone doing that - the source is GPL after
all - but it's also possible that it will be made an integral part of
the main GIMP distribution, in which case there'd be little point.
There's currently a slight logjam in doing that with the recent
discussion about whether we can get useful colour-management into the
next release - if we do, then the separate plugin will need re-writing
 a little.

 I will try to figure out what I need to change in the Makefile to
 compile it for the GIMP 2.04 on debian SID.

Try the attached archive - it compiles here on Mandrake 9.2 and a
current GIMP system.  Hopefully it shouldn't need much, if any,
modification for Debian.  (There are also a couple of new features in
this version that I'll leave you to discover...)

All the best,
--
Alastair M. Robinson

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separate.gimp20.tgz [918.1 KB] to get it, please send an email with a 
short mesage to ggrubbish at web.de .
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Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?

2004-12-11 Thread Carol Spears
On Sat, Dec 11, 2004 at 02:54:07PM -0500, John Culleton wrote:
 On Saturday 11 December 2004 06:11, Sven Neumann wrote:
  John Culleton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   I have downloaded the latest help file. Befor I untar it, where is
   it supposed to go? Or more particularly, where is it supposed to be
   when I untar it?
 
  Just untar them and read the installation instructions in the file
  INSTALL.
 
 OK the instructions say run ./configure and ./configure fails because it 
 can't 
 find a file called gimp-2.0 pc. I searched my disks (several versions of Gimp 
 laying around) and no such file exists. The ./configure run also says:
 couldn't find a Gimp-2.0 installation. There are about three laying around. 
 
the solution to this is to show ./configure where the file (gimp-2.0.pc)
is.  running the gimpenv script from wgo should fix that:
http://www.gimp.org/source/howtos/gimpenv

it tells your shell what it needs to know by setting the proper
environment variables.

 So, back to my original question. Where should I try to untar the Gimp help 
 tarball? I don't want to muck up a functioning Gimp installation by untarring 
 them in the wrong location. 
 
 Perhaps I am using the wrong tarball. When you go to the site and look for 
 help files all you can find is a directory called test or testing which 
 holds about 5 different versions of help files.  I picked out the most recent 
 one, 2.05
 
you are imagining opening up a tarball of html, i think.  what you have
downloaded is the means to make html, pdf, sgtml, xml and
whoknowwhatelseml.  your question is not being asked correctly.

 The best solution of course would be to have the help files integrated with 
 the Gimp package itself. That is the way most packages work. Failing that, a 
 help tarball in parallel to the current stable version and with explicit 
 instructions on installation (i.e. where) would be most helpful. I suppose I 
 will have to go to a Knoppix disk and figure out where the help files go from 
 its internal structure.  Oh well. 

a tarball of html because that is all anyone will ever use?  you jest!

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Owen Cook

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004, Gert Cuykens wrote:

 who do i ask if they would like to change the word lightness into
 brightness from the gimp gui?


You don't to ask anyone, being an open source project, you can do it your
self

I found these files that had Lightness which you could try changing to
Brightness

gimpcolorizetool.c:  
gimphuesaturationtool.c: 
hue-saturation.c
gimpcolorspace.c


Owen

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Re: [Gimp-user] Testimonials of GIMP usage by professionals

2004-12-11 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Geoffrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-11-04 21:02]:
 Gee, just like most other mail clients.  Must be an operator problem
 then...
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Gert Cuykens
   Brightness is the perceived intensity of light coming from the image
   itself, rather than any property of the portrayed scene. Brightness
   is sometimes defined as perceived luminance. (From Adelson, MIT)
 
 and
 
   Lightness is the perceived reflectance of a surface. It represents
   the visual system's attempt to extract reflectance based on the
   luminances in the scene. (From Adelson, MIT)
 
 So your implied assumption that Brightness and Lightness are
 exchangeable terms is simply wrong. You were quite unspecific where
 you want to exchange these terms and I cannot determine if the usage of
 lightness is correct or not. My guess is, that somebody put some
 thought in the choice of words and I wouldn't change it unless someone
 shows that the usage of lightness is wrong.
 

i did not assume anything one of the reply's said it was :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 http://docs.gimp.org/en/go01.html

 yep looks very nice except it need some more words for example hue
 only shows two pictures. Can someone at the circle comment to the
 documentation please.

If you think the docs need improvements, feel free to join the
gimp-docs team. The manual is in CVS (module gimp-help-2) and there's
a mailing-list (gimp-docs).


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Testimonials of GIMP usage by professionals

2004-12-11 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 07:28:52 +0100, Michael Schumacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 Gert Cuykens wrote:
 
 [fullqote]
 
 BTW, could you learn how to quote? Would make your mails a lot easier to
 read.
 
 
 
 
 Michael
 
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i don't know ? gmail does all the quoting for me :)
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Re: [Gimp-user] Where to put help?

2004-12-11 Thread Jozsef Mak
I also cannot understand the reason behind not integrating the help files 
with Gimp.

jozsefmak
The best solution of course would be to have the help files integrated with
the Gimp package itself. That is the way most packages work. Failing that, 
a
help tarball in parallel to the current stable version and with explicit
instructions on installation (i.e. where) would be most helpful. I suppose 
I
will have to go to a Knoppix disk and figure out where the help files go 
from
its internal structure.  Oh well.
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Re: [Gimp-user] difference between brightness and saturation

2004-12-11 Thread Gert Cuykens
who do i ask if they would like to change the word lightness into
brightness from the gimp gui?
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Re: [Gimp-user] Testimonials of GIMP usage by professionals

2004-12-11 Thread Geoffrey
Patrick Shanahan wrote:
* Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-11-04 08:08]:
i don't know ? gmail does all the quoting for me :)

Yes, it quotes *everything* and *you* are _expected_ to delete that
which is not necessary and/or pertinent.
Agreed.
Gee, just like most other mail clients.  Must be an operator problem then...
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