Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting Gimp's Hue-Saturation tool's overlap?

2013-04-12 Thread Sam Bizzell
Thanks for the response! I was sure hoping I had overlooked something. Too bad 
this functionality's not available. Do you know how one would go about sending 
in a feature request?


On Apr 10, 2013, at 5:29 PM, Richard Gitschlag strata_ran...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

  From: applecha...@gmail.com
  Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 18:49:48 -0600
  To: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
  Subject: [Gimp-user] Scripting Gimp's Hue-Saturation tool's overlap?
  
  Sorry if this is the wrong way to ask this question, but… I am trying to 
  write a script which desperately needs access to the overlap function of 
  the Hue-Saturation tool. What I've found so far is…
  
  (gimp-hue-saturation drawable hue-range hue-offset lightness saturation)
  
  Am I overlooking something obvious? Thanks so much in advance for any 
  information you may be able to provide! I love the Gimp and thoroughly 
  appreciate ALL developers involved in its continuous evolution into the 
  most versatile tool I use daily!!
  ~Sam
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 Does not seem possible atm, sorry.  But I do agree the 
 Hue-Saturation-with-overlap functionality should be exposed to GIMP scripting 
 just the same
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting Gimp's Hue-Saturation tool's overlap?

2013-04-12 Thread Sam Bizzell
Thanks Kevin! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out another way to 
simulate the overlap behavior, sure haven't been able to come up with anything 
yet. Do you have any suggestions, or know where I could look for the answer? I 
also need to submit a feature request to have this added to a future Gimp.


On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:47 AM, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote:

 On 13-04-07 08:49 PM, Sam Bizzell wrote:
 I am trying to write a script which desperately needs access to the
 overlap function of the Hue-Saturation tool. What I've found so far is…
 
 (gimp-hue-saturation drawable hue-range hue-offset lightness saturation)
 
 Unless the overlap setting can be simulated/emulated using a second layer, 
 there is currently no way to set overlap. It would require a new PDB call 
 that takes the extra parameter or adding a context setting to allow overlap 
 to be set.
 
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[Gimp-user] The structure of exported GIMP image

2013-04-12 Thread Kf Lee
I try to put an image from GIMP into an embedded system using export. The c
file created has a struct with width, height, bytes per pixel (bpp) and the
data of the image. The total length is width*height*bbp+1.  The bpp in
default to 4 by GIMP. I has tried but fail to find an explanation of how
the data is arranged. Can someone point me a direction?

In the very low level of pixel by pixel write to the display controller,
one usually repeat image pixel height lines, and each line would have
width/8 bytes times the bpp. Thus a 48x32 image, would have 24 bytes for
each line and there are 32 lines. I try this rule but the image does not
seem come out right.

A 4-bytes bpp seems to indicated that the there are 4G (256*256*256*256)
color but most embedded display can only do 64K color (256*256), I found a
function by web search to convert 4 bytes to 2 bytes but not sure the
formula would be correct?  Is there an authoritative answer to  this?

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Kevin Cozens

On 13-04-11 06:33 AM, Kasim Ahmic wrote:

Over at the Web List I've posted this redesign that I made from Mike Finch's 
mockup.

http://kasimahmic.koding.com/works/GIMP/

[snip]

So tell me what you guys think of it so far!


It looks good but you could tighten up the design. It uses a lot of space 
for little information, but that may be in part that it is a sample of the 
appearance of the front page without the final content.


The large text below the top nav bar uses a lot of space for so little text. 
The laptop cover on the right with the changing pictures seems a waste of 
space unless you have planned for something else to appear on there. The 
orange clickable buttons seems rather large.


It is nice to see someone looking at the website and thinking of ways to 
improve it.


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[Gimp-user] Post GIMP File Management, Organizing Viewing/Simpler Alternatives Options PLEASE READ HELP!!! How Make .JPG Files More Like Tiles or Icons. Once Moved They Stay Set

2013-04-12 Thread FriendlyBeginner
Hello Jay,'

Jay...You told me to take a few weeks off before my head explodes, but I was
challenged  inspired by your posting and decided to go forward and try to
answer you.

I'd loved to have met your dad and his 3x5 cards. 

I personally have to date 250,000 cards, 3x5 inch cards. (Major space  access
issue).

My 1st project is things to do cards, maybe 1000 cards.

I want in 3 folders by priority, and move them back and forth depending on
current priority. Of course each of these folders will likely have 3 sub folders
A,B,C or whatever. And of course as I go many will be deleted or put in a folder
called Completed Tasks or whatever.

The other index cards are impossible to describe but let's call them
projects...And each stack of cards is a project, and they are bound by hair
bands (rubber bands break to easily).

So imagine all these stacks of projects (maybe 25-400 cards in each stack),
imagine all these stacks laying around everywhere on desks, in custom boxes,
wherever bound together with hairbands.

Every card within these batches are in a position for a reason, until I pick
them up and maybe move the order around a little bit, but they are in a certain
order for whatever reason, and I am used to where they are...BUT to answer your
question they take up too much space and are too hard to find and access in
tight quarters...And what I want is clean slate open desk space.

So I simply want to one card or one project at a time put them on my pc, let's
say I have a project called Handyman, in this pile of cards will be let's say
100 cards with 100 handymen or craftsmen in there and on each card detailed
information written by hand by me of when we met, what job was done etc.
whatever.

I would of course have in my computer a folder named handyman and that is where
these cards would go.

So I should say that the vast majority of my cards are not things to do cards
but project cards or whatever you want to call them.

The things to do index cards by their very nature will require moving from
folder to folder a lot (based on current priority). And I need to see them in
thumbnail view of some kind and each time I visit them I do NOT want them to
have moved from the way I moved  positioned them in priority.

The other index cards will be more or less in the same order as they are now in
their respective hair band bound stacks...However there will be times when I
will change the position of a card in the stack or maybe move or copy it to
another completely different folder.

I guess what I'm going for is imagine sitting at a large table and you have the
cards spread in front of you like playing cards laying flat and you have them
positioned like that except on a PC.

With regards to the future, as I scan more and more cards into my pc, over the
years I will develop more and more folders and catagories and sub-folders and
just a bunch of folders of images of index cards contained in a lot of
specifically named folders depending on the subject matter of the cards therein.

I will THEN be able to locate a folder by location, name, date, subject, etc and
quickly access it for reference. I need the cards to remain in order until I
want to move them, like a desktop icon or a Opera browser icon. Simple
interface, simple access.

That done, then when I think of something I wrote or was working on 10-20 years
ago instead of picking up dusty crates and boxes of index cards TRYING to find
that batch of cards I just sit down at my pc or on my iphone whatever and access
that old batch of 3x5 cards without getting out of my chair.

By the way I'd love to brainstorm with you sometime on your big idea you
mentioned below, maybe in a private chat or other conversation, ever since the
big face to face, belly to belly networking craze of the late 1970's and early
1980's I have been intrigued by the collection and management and access to
information.

Anyway, great post, thanks for your patience and interest.

Respectfully Yours,

FriendlyBeginner













Hi Friendly,

I believe that the custom on such lists is to add new content at the 
bottom.  That way, the whole series of messages can be read from top
to
bottom and be in order.

[I have no idea what you are talking about when you say create the 
window at the top of my response in the final view?  I am reading / 
writing these messages as ordinary textual emails, not on some website
-- I don't what mechanisms others use to read / write them.]

=-=-=

I hate to say this when your head is about to explode, but when you
said
I have something very simple I want to do and need a simple 
solution. you may not fully comprehend what you are getting into.

I agree, it _seems_ simple.  But, it is not trivial.

Often, in IT (information technology -- your cards represent 
information), seemingly the simpler the desired result, the more
complex
the real problem is.

It seems simple to decide where and what to eat/do/go for dinner 
tonight.  However, it is a massively 

[Gimp-user] Post GIMP File Management, Organizing Viewing/Simpler Alternatives Options PLEASE READ HELP!!! How Make .JPG Files More Like Tiles or Icons. Once Moved They Stay Set

2013-04-12 Thread FriendlyBeginner
I believe you are following a pretty good path, but one so far outside
the scope
of GIMP that the answers you've received so far are missing your main
goal.

You've used GIMP very effectively to capture your cards. What I
believe you
want to do next is reorganize them - and to update and change your
mind
about the organization whenever it feels right.

Jay is suggesting a data base approach - but it seems to me you just
want to
move things around by dragging them from one folder to another. Unless
you
have a way to capture the scribbles and interpret them, you most
likely will find displaying your folder contents as icons and dragging
them
from one to another is pretty much all you can do.

   -- Burnie



Thanks Burnie,

You saiday is suggesting a data base approach - but it seems to me you just
want to
move things around by dragging them from one folder to another. Unless
you
have a way to capture the scribbles and interpret them, you most
likely will find displaying your folder contents as icons and dragging
them
from one to another is pretty much all you can do.

Yes Burnie...You said it as simply as anyone, anywhere has said it yet. But HOW
do I do it, CAD package? Whatever that is, PaperPort however that works,
Daminion what is this? I already have all the best reviewed photo
management/viewing software already downloaded, now I just want to get started
and start scanning and making these drag and drop Object? files but I need to
know what to use that is the BEST until then I'm just sitting here waiting for a
solution.

Thanks Burnie,

FriendlyBeginner



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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Sam Gleske
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote:

 On 13-04-11 06:33 AM, Kasim Ahmic wrote:

 Over at the Web List I've posted this redesign that I made from Mike
 Finch's mockup.

 http://kasimahmic.koding.com/**works/GIMP/http://kasimahmic.koding.com/works/GIMP/

 [snip]

  So tell me what you guys think of it so far!


 It looks good but you could tighten up the design. It uses a lot of space
 for little information, but that may be in part that it is a sample of the
 appearance of the front page without the final content.


I don't think it's that big of an issue.  We live in an age of high
resolution monitors.  Higher resolution images would be good to take
advantage of that.  Personally I like the current site design (on gimp.org);
primarily because I enjoy reading the GIMP news as soon as I get to the
site (which I avidly check even though it's not updated very often).  For
me it just means more clicks to get to news.  I guess I'll just depend on
my RSS feed as it's not that big of a deal.

However I like how Kasim emphasizes features on the front page which
beckons users to try it out.  The only thing I would like to see changed is
the text, Play with the Tools of the Trade.  I don't like that because it
implies that there is no need to take GIMP seriously as a professional
editing tool or that it's a free trial to play with before using the real
thing.  I'm tired of hearing people say GIMP isn't as good as Photoshop.
They just haven't used GIMP enough.  You need to unlearn Photoshop to
really take advantage of GIMP.  I think GIMP is already ready for the prime
time just industry doesn't take the time to learn a new tool.  I would like
to suggest you changing that text to, Draft with the Tools of the Trade.
This let's users know that it's there for the taking yet allows
professionals to take it seriously as a tool to get work done.

If we're really going forward with this redesign thanks for considering any
of my thoughts.

SAM
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Sam Gleske
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Sam Gleske sam.mxra...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kevin Cozens ke...@ve3syb.ca wrote:

 It looks good but you could tighten up the design. It uses a lot of space
 for little information, but that may be in part that it is a sample of the
 appearance of the front page without the final content.


 I don't think it's that big of an issue.  We live in an age of high
 resolution monitors.  Higher resolution images would be good to take
 advantage of that.  Personally I like the current site design (on gimp.org);
 primarily because I enjoy reading the GIMP news as soon as I get to the
 site (which I avidly check even though it's not updated very often).  For
 me it just means more clicks to get to news.  I guess I'll just depend on
 my RSS feed as it's not that big of a deal.

 However I like how Kasim emphasizes features on the front page which
 beckons users to try it out.  The only thing I would like to see changed is
 the text, Play with the Tools of the Trade.  I don't like that because it
 implies that there is no need to take GIMP seriously as a professional
 editing tool or that it's a free trial to play with before using the real
 thing.  I'm tired of hearing people say GIMP isn't as good as Photoshop.
 They just haven't used GIMP enough.  You need to unlearn Photoshop to
 really take advantage of GIMP.  I think GIMP is already ready for the prime
 time just industry doesn't take the time to learn a new tool.  I would like
 to suggest you changing that text to, Draft with the Tools of the Trade.
 This let's users know that it's there for the taking yet allows
 professionals to take it seriously as a tool to get work done.

 If we're really going forward with this redesign thanks for considering
 any of my thoughts.


To add on to my previous statements I'd like the front page to be edited a
bit more.  I'll quote the previous text and then follow that with what I
would like to see it say.   Note:

 *Professional Level Photo Filters*
 Make your photos picture perfect with with prefessional-grade color
filtering.

 *Play with the Tools of the Trade*
 GIMP comes ready with everything you need to design like a pro.

- Suggested Changes

*Professional Photo Filters*
Make your photos picture perfect with professional-grade color filtering.

*Draft with the Tools of the Trade*
GIMP has a robust set of tools and can be easily extended through add-ons.

- Notes

On the second sentence of the first line I correct your misspelling of
prefessional.

Avoid the word 'comes' as it implies humans traveling (to come and go).
Again emphasize that GIMP brings a lot to the table.  Having a robust set
of tools is good for both users and professionals a-like.  Easily extending
functionality through add-ons caters to real power users of the tool.

I try to think of the psychology behind the advertising since the first
page is something everybody sees I think this redesign will ultimately make
GIMP more popular.  Especially with high bit depth editing coming to the
table in future versions (which I look forward to!).

Thanks for taking the time Kasim to put a lot of thought into your design
and asking for feedback.

SAM
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Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting Gimp's Hue-Saturation tool's overlap?

2013-04-12 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 05:46 -0600, Sam Bizzell wrote:
 Thanks Kevin! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out another
 way to simulate the overlap behavior, sure haven't been able to come
 up with anything yet. Do you have any suggestions, or know where I
 could look for the answer? I also need to submit a feature request to
 have this added to a future Gimp.

Are you using gimp 2.8? On which platform? If you compile your own gimp,
this would probably be reasonably easy to add.

An alternative might be to see if there's a saturation argument to the
rotate colours plugin.

Another way is to use select by colour, perhaps, and then affect the
selection, perhaps on a duplicate layer and using desaturate and layer
opacity?

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 11:22 -0700, Tom Williams wrote:
 On 04/12/2013 10:41 AM, Sam Gleske wrote:
   We live in an age of high
  resolution monitors.  Higher resolution images would be good to take
  advantage of that. 
 
 High resolution monitors might be frequently installed but many people
 won't use them at high resolutions. 

The answer to this is liquid, responsive designs using CSS media
queries. This approach works in all modern browsers and is compatible
with older browsers (and with Web crawlers).

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Kasim Ahmic
Let me just start off by saying thank you for all the feedback!

One thing is missing: mobile-friendly layouts.  The current site is
 not fantastic at mobile size, but it's more usuable than your demo.
 Apologies if you were already planning to take care of this.
 As for HTML5, I've seen my fill of browser-specific issues with HTML
 4.0 and XHTML.  Avoid the stuff that's still in churn (eg, canvas tag
 the last time I checked), and HTML5 is fine IMO, and a lot more fun to
 work with.


 To be completely honest, I purposefully avoided mobile support.
Considering that GIMP is a desktop exclusive program, I figured that adding
mobile support would be a waste of time. If there is enough demand for it,
however, I'll attempt to add it.


I think the background image of the text GIMP - The freely distributed
 image editor... distracts from its content. Perhaps heavily blurring it
 might help - if it doesn't, use something else more background-like (the
 same image is in the animation on the right anyway).


 I entirely agree with the fact that it distracts the user. That's why I
asked for suggestions on its replacement. I'll try blurring the background
to see how that works out.


I don't think it's that big of an issue.  We live in an age of high
 resolution monitors.  Higher resolution images would be good to take
 advantage of that.  Personally I like the current site design (on gimp.org);
 primarily because I enjoy reading the GIMP news as soon as I get to the
 site (which I avidly check even though it's not updated very often).  For
 me it just means more clicks to get to news.  I guess I'll just depend on
 my RSS feed as it's not that big of a deal.


How about if I add a Recent News section between the body and footer?
Sort of a small feed that shows the 3-5 latest articles. I'll probably also
add a twitter feed (should the GIMP devs want to tweet their progress) and
a latest books feed or something along those lines. I've updated the demo
with this but for now it's just to show where the feeds would go. No
styling has actually been added yet.


To add on to my previous statements I'd like the front page to be edited a
 bit more.  I'll quote the previous text and then follow that with what I
 would like to see it say.   Note:
  *Professional Level Photo Filters
 * Make your photos picture perfect with with prefessional-grade color
 filtering.
 
  *Play with the Tools of the Trade
 * GIMP comes ready with everything you need to design like a pro.
 - Suggested Changes
 *Professional Photo Filters
 *Make your photos picture perfect with professional-grade color filtering.
 *Draft with the Tools of the Trade
 *GIMP has a robust set of tools and can be easily extended through
 add-ons.


Thanks for this! I've replaced the text on the page with your suggestion.


The answer to this is liquid, responsive designs using CSS media
 queries. This approach works in all modern browsers and is compatible
 with older browsers (and with Web crawlers).


I've already tried this. hoping to make it super fluid and look amazing on
all screen sizes. But with the way that Mike aligned everything, it makes
it extremely difficult to make sure everything stays in place and even more
so when I'm designing everything on a 1024x768 monitor. I stuck with a
static design because it's easier to manage and I know it'll look the same
on every display aside from those smaller than 1024x768. I'll try to make
it fluid again sometime in the future.

Oh and I'm not sure if you guys are thanking me for making the site or for
designing it. If it's for the latter, then please know that I had no part
in it's designing. That was all Mike Finch.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Sam Gleske
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.com wrote:

 How about if I add a Recent News section between the body and footer?
 Sort of a small feed that shows the 3-5 latest articles. I'll probably also
 add a twitter feed (should the GIMP devs want to tweet their progress) and
 a latest books feed or something along those lines. I've updated the demo
 with this but for now it's just to show where the feeds would go. No
 styling has actually been added yet.


That's a pretty cool idea.  Considering the space allotted for it I think
only 1 article would be enough.  If I see that one article has changed I
would go to the news feed to read more news :).


Oh and I'm not sure if you guys are thanking me for making the site or for
 designing it. If it's for the latter, then please know that I had no part
 in it's designing. That was all Mike Finch.


Ah I forgot Mike Finch was the designer; nice shout out.  I give props to
both of you.  Nice design and good conversion from template - html.

One other thing I'd like to add.  Your html doesn't pass the W3C Validation
Service.  I think we should follow the HTML5 standard.  Here's a quick URL
for your convenience.

http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkasimahmic.koding.com%2Fworks%2FGIMP%2Fcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Kasim Ahmic

 That's a pretty cool idea.  Considering the space allotted for it I think
 only 1 article would be enough.  If I see that one article has changed I
 would go to the news feed to read more news :).


Well we'll see when we actually implement it. I'll most likely have to use
PHP for that which I have next to no knowledge about so it'll have to wait
until we can get someone to help me out there.



 One other thing I'd like to add.  Your html doesn't pass the W3C
 Validation Service.  I think we should follow the HTML5 standard.  Here's a
 quick URL for your convenience.


 Thanks for pointing that out! It's all fixed now.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Sam Gleske sam.mxra...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.comwrote:

 How about if I add a Recent News section between the body and footer?
 Sort of a small feed that shows the 3-5 latest articles. I'll probably also
 add a twitter feed (should the GIMP devs want to tweet their progress) and
 a latest books feed or something along those lines. I've updated the demo
 with this but for now it's just to show where the feeds would go. No
 styling has actually been added yet.


 That's a pretty cool idea.  Considering the space allotted for it I think
 only 1 article would be enough.  If I see that one article has changed I
 would go to the news feed to read more news :).


 Oh and I'm not sure if you guys are thanking me for making the site or for
 designing it. If it's for the latter, then please know that I had no part
 in it's designing. That was all Mike Finch.


 Ah I forgot Mike Finch was the designer; nice shout out.  I give props to
 both of you.  Nice design and good conversion from template - html.

 One other thing I'd like to add.  Your html doesn't pass the W3C
 Validation Service.  I think we should follow the HTML5 standard.  Here's a
 quick URL for your convenience.


 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkasimahmic.koding.com%2Fworks%2FGIMP%2Fcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0

 SAM

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Chris Mohler
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.com wrote:
  To be completely honest, I purposefully avoided mobile support. Considering
 that GIMP is a desktop exclusive program, I figured that adding mobile
 support would be a waste of time. If there is enough demand for it, however,
 I'll attempt to add it.

I would at least have a look at adding something like bootstrap.
Adding a few classes to your divs and you'd be 99% done.  Most
elements would then scale to fit tablets/mobile, etc.

Use case A: I'm out at the bar and talking about design work.  My
companion mentions how all the software you need is expensive.  I
point out GIMP can handle quite a bit, esp when it comes to web and
photos.  My companion asks can it do X?  I look it up on the site.
Site looks bad == project looks bad.

Use case B: Loss of internet connection, no local help installed, but
access to web via a mobile data plan. Easy to access the docs on the
phone.

I doubt these cases are common, really - but using something like
bootstrap or unsemantic doesn't take long and handles them nicely.

Just my opinion really - I see it as a relatively small amount of
effort even if the gains are small.

Chris
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Kasim Ahmic
I already went ahead and fixed it :P

As for the CSS, I'm attempting to get it to pass W3C specs but
it's proving difficult for whatever reason. I'll keep trying though.


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Sam Gleske sam.mxra...@gmail.com wrote:




 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Sam Gleske sam.mxra...@gmail.com wrote:

 One other thing I'd like to add.  Your html doesn't pass the W3C
 Validation Service.  I think we should follow the HTML5 standard.  Here's a
 quick URL for your convenience.


 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fkasimahmic.koding.com%2Fworks%2FGIMP%2Fcharset=(detect+automatically)doctype=Inlinegroup=0


 I went ahead and changed your code so that it validates.  I've provided
 both a revised validated file and a diff to show the changes.  See the
 attached files index_validated.html and index_validated.diff.

 I also recommend you validating your CSS if you can (sometimes that's not
 always possible).

 http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/

 SAM

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Liam R E Quin
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 18:02 -0400, Kasim Ahmic wrote:

 As for the CSS, I'm attempting to get it to pass W3C specs but
 it's proving difficult for whatever reason. I'll keep trying though.

If validator.nu or the W3C validator is complaining about prefixed
properties, check with caniuse.com maybe, but the validators don't in
general like prefixed properties - ignore those warnings  move on with
life.

It *is* worth checking in the browser console (e.g. control-shift-k in
firefox or chromiumuouioiouiouiuum) for CSS errors or warnings and
understanding them.

If it's more than that, let me know if I can help.

Liam

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Site Redesign

2013-04-12 Thread Kasim Ahmic
Alright, so first off, I've made the CSS almost fully valid. It turns out
that using the IE gradient filter was causing all the problems. Anyway, the
only error that's coming up now is because I'm using the
*::selection*selector to change the background of text when it's
highlighted. Not to big
of a deal so I think I'll just leave it at that.


First off, this is really great work.  It's awesome seeing this come to
 life.


 Thanks!


The original design I did (http://d.pr/i/LYn8) was intended to work within
 a responsive, flexible grid- specifically, Twitter Bootstrap (
 http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/).  Regardless of the content being
 for a desktop application, there's no reason to discount the use case of
 someone learning about GIMP while on the bus, and visiting the site on
 their phone.  The awesome thing about Bootstrap is that the mobile
 version comes in the framework for free without the need for any extra dev
 work.


I see. Alright, I'll leave this version up for now and make changes to it
as suggestions come it but I'll work on a separate one using Twitter
Bootstrap.


Just wanted to pop in and say thanks for all the hard work!  :)  Feel free
 to hit me directly if you have any questions/concerns.


 No problem! I love doing this sort of thing! And thanks, I'll keep that in
mind :)


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Mike Finch i...@1sixty.com wrote:

 Hey guys/Kasim,

 First off, this is really great work.  It's awesome seeing this come to
 life.

 The original design I did (http://d.pr/i/LYn8) was intended to work
 within a responsive, flexible grid- specifically, Twitter Bootstrap (
 http://twitter.github.io/bootstrap/).  Regardless of the content being
 for a desktop application, there's no reason to discount the use case of
 someone learning about GIMP while on the bus, and visiting the site on
 their phone.  The awesome thing about Bootstrap is that the mobile
 version comes in the framework for free without the need for any extra dev
 work.

 Regarding the background, I totally agree that a blurred, less distracting
 version would be more effective.  Very good call.

 Just wanted to pop in and say thanks for all the hard work!  :)  Feel free
 to hit me directly if you have any questions/concerns.


 *
 Mike Finch //
 **
 1sixty.com
 *
 *
 Twitter // @160south
 *

 On Friday, April 12, 2013 at 3:01 PM, Chris Mohler wrote:

 On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Kasim Ahmic kasim.ah...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 To be completely honest, I purposefully avoided mobile support. Considering
 that GIMP is a desktop exclusive program, I figured that adding mobile
 support would be a waste of time. If there is enough demand for it,
 however,
 I'll attempt to add it.


 I would at least have a look at adding something like bootstrap.
 Adding a few classes to your divs and you'd be 99% done. Most
 elements would then scale to fit tablets/mobile, etc.

 Use case A: I'm out at the bar and talking about design work. My
 companion mentions how all the software you need is expensive. I
 point out GIMP can handle quite a bit, esp when it comes to web and
 photos. My companion asks can it do X? I look it up on the site.
 Site looks bad == project looks bad.

 Use case B: Loss of internet connection, no local help installed, but
 access to web via a mobile data plan. Easy to access the docs on the
 phone.

 I doubt these cases are common, really - but using something like
 bootstrap or unsemantic doesn't take long and handles them nicely.

 Just my opinion really - I see it as a relatively small amount of
 effort even if the gains are small.

 Chris



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Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting Gimp's Hue-Saturation tool's overlap?

2013-04-12 Thread Richard Gitschlag


 From: l...@holoweb.net
 To: applecha...@gmail.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:26:56 -0400
 CC: gimp-user-list@gnome.org
 Subject: Re: [Gimp-user] Scripting Gimp's Hue-Saturation tool's overlap?
 
 On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 05:46 -0600, Sam Bizzell wrote:
  Thanks Kevin! I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out another
  way to simulate the overlap behavior, sure haven't been able to come
  up with anything yet. Do you have any suggestions, or know where I
  could look for the answer? I also need to submit a feature request to
  have this added to a future Gimp.
 
 Are you using gimp 2.8? On which platform? If you compile your own gimp,
 this would probably be reasonably easy to add.
 
 An alternative might be to see if there's a saturation argument to the
 rotate colours plugin.
 
 Another way is to use select by colour, perhaps, and then affect the
 selection, perhaps on a duplicate layer and using desaturate and layer
 opacity?
 
 Liam
 
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Select By Color does sound like the best option - calculate the threshold to 
based on hue, with some degree of antialiasing and/or feathering, then just do 
a regular Hue-Saturation adjustment on the resulting selection.

Remember, the Overlap region really only affects how GIMP handles the 
transition from one Hue-Saturation channel to the next.  Internally, GIMP maps 
an input pixel (in HSV space) by both of the nearest channels and then 
interpolates the result based how close the hue is to the exact mid-hue between 
channels (relative to the overlap width).

Second that there should be a PDB call that allows you to specify the overlap 
setting.  It's part of the tool's UI, it should be exposed for scripts too.

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