[Goanet] Re: Why stray dogs always will be a problem in Goa !!
Hi Goanetters, Stray dogs is not the problem in Goa - PEOPLE OF GOA ARE. Here is an example: A person in our village (expat of Dubai) bought a dog to guard his wealth and this is the truth. His neighbour not to be outdone bought two dogs to guard his workshop. His neighbour got a b*tch (free of course) but she can't feed herself let alone the dog. Suddenly there is an influx of dogs in our village, and they make a racket at night. One night I was woken up by cries - as if a person was being strangled, in the morning when I enquired no one had heard anything, upon my fifth enquiry I was told that a particular dog does that when it gets fits. Do dogs and Goans live in 'Harmony' in Goa, and 5:1 does not realise that there is a problem? Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Woman priest says Mass
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] WROTE: That is exactly where the church wants you with the rest of the sheep who keep their heads down grazing on the verbiage it provides without questioning or looking up except to follow directions from the shepherd. Hi Goanetters, Talking about the shepherd who is supposed to watch and give directions when we go sway. What is the Goan Shepherd doing about the situation in CORZUEM (Aldona)? Sheep are not only not keeping their heads down but running around like headless chickens, and the shepher is telling us to sort ourselves out and then come to him. Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Kiss which cheek first?
Hi Goanetters, 'Left cheek first'. Its not only because we British drive on the left, it is also because we write from left to right. Also if we give someone a back-hander we swing our right hand from left to right. It all adds up that the French and the Belgiums have got it all wrong and the British have got it right - we always do. As for the Number of kisses it depends on how intimately you know the person - 10 times if you have been emailing them and have seen them for the first time. (Gabe - don't count on it). Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Nodding of Head
Hi All, In reply to the swaying of head by the Indians, I have come to realise that it is a polite way of saying, Yes or NO it doesn't matter. YES? - then it is ok and thank you. No? - it doesn't matter, I dont mind, you are forgiven etc etc. In the West these principles do not apply. It is straight Yes or No - and nothing in-between. Choice is Yours. Swaying of head is pleasantly irritating at first, but you get used to it. Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Judas and the 4 Gosples
--- * G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * --- USDA certified Goa Sausages and other Goan foods can now be delivered to virtually any part of the world. http://www.goanfoods.com --- Hi Goanetters, Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] observes: Judas did betray Christ - Pope Benedict XVI. See attached report. Excerpt: Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday recounted the Biblical betrayal of Jesus by Judas, calling the apostle a double-crosser for whom money was more important than communion with Jesus, more important than God and his love. Benedict's traditional depiction of Judas came during his Holy Thursday homily, a week after the release of an ancient Egyptian Coptic text dubbed the Gospel of Judas, in which Judas is portrayed not as Christs betrayer but as his confidant who was doing his will by handing him over to his enemies to be crucified. (end of excerpt) Afra says; Neither of the above statements are correct. 1. who do you trust with your money a greedy person or a trustworthy. 2. Why was Judas given the Accountants job? a) because Jesus trusted him. b) he did not belong to the same area as the other apostles. c) he was Jesus's favourite. 3) Judas was not handling his own money to sell Jesus to boost his personal income, he was given the job by all the other 11 apostles and Jesus, because they trusted him, he did a job which the others did not want or could not do. 4. Did Judas go to the Rabbi on his own account OR was he pushed. a) did he volunteer to do the job the others did not want to do? b) being an accountant he thought he had more logic than the others. c) a scapegoat, and still is? 5. Was Judas despatched on behalf of Jesus to make peace with the main stream Religion, because Saul and the rest were stoning the followers of Jesus and Jesus did not want any more bloodshed in his name? Was Benedict there to be 100% sure of what happened? The Gosples was written after Jesus died, not during his lifetime. The Epileptic (St) Paul blamed the devil for his headaches and fits. There are more than 4 Gosples. Why the Gosple of St Thomas not followed in India? Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] Foreigners in Goa on prescription
-- Domnic Fernandes continues (Part II) his reminiscence of Mapusa of the 1950s http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=426 -- That description fits me perfectly. I am a foreigner - citizen of a Foreign country I am not working = Bekar and no I did not win a Lottery I have a permanent residence in Goa I played my cards right, and am now living it up. Viva Goa ! Goans living abroad dont know what they are missing. Foreigners and non-Goan Indians have discovered Goa and are flocking here. Like me, they love Goa. Afra says, I dont know about description, I know that they have played their prescription right, I know of a few British Citizens who are in Goa on permanent sick leave - doctors prescription. Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org)
[Goanet] HIV UN
Hi Goanetter, For UN to take interest in a small state in India regarding HIV. I think there are influential international spies doing charity work like dog cathers to camouflage their real intent and purpose. And, for for an idiot doctor like Brown saying that only positive people should go for an HIV test. Shows that there is s sinister interest in Goa by the foreigners. If Goans do not take this seriously the foreigners will light fire to India via Goa, just like they did in Punjab and killed Mrs Gandhi. Job done the Rupee now to its original state of Rs 80 +or- (during Indira it was Rs 13/-). Who is talking about Kalisthan NOW? With all these foreigners in Goa, with permanent residences and not working for their living, who is giving them money to live in Goa? Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Priest Murdered
Hi goanetters, Mario responds: The questions above are really no one's business. Even if these vicious insinuations (started by Godfrey Gonsalves on Goanet, and continued by Afra Dias and JoeGoaUK, who cannot even disclose his own name) have any substance, which I doubt from the testimony of those who know him, the only issue that counts is who murdered Fr. Eusebio and that they be brought to a swift and certain justice, under the law --- Afra saya, Why do you hanker over peoples names on the internet, do you want to go to their houses and break their windows, just because they do not agree with your views? There is a saying that if you play with fire, you will get burnt. The priest was doing what he was not supposed to have been doing. He was a public figure therefore scrutinised by the public. Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Fr. Eusebio's murder
Bernado Colaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How do we know that the youths drank alcool? Did any one see the bottles? Or are Goans hearing kanios once again, such as we were liberated? BC afra says: which part of BC do you belong to? don't you read the - oheraldo.in? From where did the police get the bottles? The police are giving more information than the public need to know. The public make their conclusion according to the news filtering out of the police department - it is the Goa police who should shut up. Does BC read and and take note of only WHAT HE WANTS TO KNOW? Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] 2006 STILL UPSIDE DOWN WORLD
Hi Goanetters, Vivian D'Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] says, To the proponents of the knee-jerk reaction of crucifying upside down the murderers of Fr. Ferrao, may I respectfully suggest that you start practicing the Yoga pose Sirsa Asana or standing on your head for a period of time. You will find the increased circulation to your heads will bring clarity to your minds and you will also be able to watch the spectacle right side up? Afra says; I do practice 'Sirsa Asana' - do you? I also say; what is the harm if one is a homosexual. One is born that way, it is not a choice. I put the 'spanner-in-the-works' to judge the opinion of narrowminded people. Talking about sex is an anatoma for the Catholics, and talking openly about sex has always been a taboo subject - except now. This practice was thought to us none other than the Priests. Talking about sex, what about Astrology. The Vedas and the Vedantas always excepted that there was a third sex. If you care to study Hindu Astrology you will know. That does not mean one is a Hindu just because one studies astrology - THE FACTS ARE THERE, IF ONE DARES TO LOOK AND LEARN. Homosexuals or be it Heterosexuals not necesarily prefer beauty and handsomeness to poky faced urchins, it is their choice to pick and do whatever takes their fancy. Afra. _ Do not post admin requests to the list. Goanet mailing list (Goanet@goanet.org) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: %(user_optionsurl)s This email sent to %(user_address)s
[Goanet] Priest Murdered
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- From: Mario Goveia says My question is why was he having dinner with hindu boys late at night. Why did he go to the Passport office with Hindu boys who are not of Goan origin. WAS HE A HOMOSEXUAL? and if he was - who should be hanged? Wait for the courts to decide. Mario observes: Afra, Your questioning Fr. Eusebio's association with Hindus and your snide insinuations about his sexuality are the most despicable I have seen since I have been on Goanet. Carmo wants the government to simply declare the suspects guilty and hang them upside down in a public place. Now, you want anyone suspected of being homosexual to be hanged. And you guys have the [EMAIL PROTECTED] to call yourselves Christians? While I understand Carmo's frustration, what you have written in this post is downright shameful. Afra says, It is downright dispeakable that u cannot have an open mind and do not question the motives. Only the USA has homosexual priests and not India? Being a Christian means I should not question what the PRIESTS do? May be shameful to you - because you do not want to face the truth. Afra.
[Goanet] AIDS HIV
-- | Read V.M. de Malar's latest Column: | || | Politics of Destruction | || | http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=Newsamp;file=articleamp;sid=416 | -- Hi Goanetters, Elisabeth Carvalho said However, I don't think an AIDS test is a deterrent to post-marital sex. These men will visit prostitutes after they get married and will infect their wives. That much we can be sure off. AIDS is more a lifestyle disease and unless we inform people to change lifestyles, use condoms and practice safe sex, we won't be successful in preventing its spread. --- Afra says, Well said. It is narrow minded and hasty of Goa to bring this law into force. Just to be THE FIRST TO IMPLIMENT THIS LAW Syndrome. There are other more hidden diseases that the Goans have not taken into consideration. Especially in UK there is a compulsory test for every pregnant woman, what is it? Certainly not HIV. Afra.
[Goanet] Priest Murdered
Hi Goanetters, Herman wrote: From: Herman D'Souza I REGRET THE DEATH OF FR. EUSEBIO, ALTHOUGH HE MAY HAVE FORGIVEN THE KILLERS. MAY HIS SOUL REST IN PEACE. BUT MY OPINION IS A MURDERER SHOULD BE HANGED HERMAN - My question is why was he having dinner with hindu boys late at night. Why did he go to the Passport office with Hindu boys who are not of Goan origin. WAS HE A HOMOSEXUAL? and if he was - who should be hanged? Wait for the courts to decide. Afra.
[Goanet] Divine Retreat Centre (Muringoor)
Hi Goanetteres, I have been to this Retreat Centre and found it very eary in restrospect. Something is not right over there. It IS being observed by foreign spies but as long as it does not hurt their interests they will not take action. They are preaching to the converted, and the others who come there are BALLED over by the 99% of the other believers who devoutely pray for miracles, and go along with the brain wash, THEY CONVINCED ME!! The people who come there and profess that miracles have taken place are ATTENTION SEEKERS. This is exciting news for me to hear that they are under investigation BUT the Centre has CASH in abundance will the Indian police do the right thing and take their booty in cash and do the runner? Wait and see. Afra.
[Goanet] Uma Tanga
Hi Goanetteres, Jorge Wrote: To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@goanet.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 25 tangas?! That would be equal to uma rupia e nove tangas (one rupee and nine annas), as each rupia had 16 tangas. And nobody in those days spoke of or wrote 16, 17 20 or 25 tangas. Jorge - 1.Who cares how many tangas make a Rupia or Bangladeshi Takka. The topic was that the Vatican RODDED Goans and made a fool of them. They didn't even raise a voice internationally, just as they said nothing about the Jews being Gased in Germany. 2. And, if a RODENT which moves on four legs is not a RAT what is. Afra.
[Goanet] HIV test to be made mandatory for marriage
Hi Goanetters, What is the Goa Govt. afraid of? That the Religious moral of the Goans has gone down. Has the HIV figures gone up? Are the figures relating to unmarried individuals higher than the married ones? Is the HIV test for Goans only or for the Swidish people who come to marry in Goa as well? Will the HIV test done in EU valid or has it to be done in Goa. Does Goa have these facilities. And, I come back to my age old question - why has the Church in Greece made Thlasaemia test compulsory and not HIV? Afra.
[Goanet] Terrorists is Goa
Hi Goanetters, JC wrote: I am glad that at least two individuals believe that the Goa Police are so honest and uncorruptable that Goans need to give more powers to the Goa police. Good stuff Afra ! May be this NOC should require the following steps : 1. original Birth Certificate 2. translated in teor (Devanagri only ...Romi Script not accepted) 3. Verified by notary public 4. Notary's signature verified by sarpanch 5. Sarpanch's signature verified by deputy sarpanch 6. both signatures verified by mamlatdar 7. All signatures verfied by local MLA 8. Finally ...all certificates should be submitted in triplicate to local police havaldar 9. final approval from MP ((video cameras NOT allowed) Afra says: It's ok to have the relevant requirements. Who is the body that will monitor and impliment these in place. If the police are corrupt, then the Govt should do something about it. But, which dept of the Govt is responsible for this? In other words 'is there one?'. Afra.
[Goanet] Rat as fish
Hi Goanetters, If the Vatican can make dispensation of eating a BIG DESERT rat as fish on fridays in the SOUTH AMERICAS, and can issue a BULL to eat beef on fridays (they did this in the 1950s in Goa). M My Church oarish priest issued these for 25 tangas every fridays - (the beef itself cost 25 tangs a quaeter kg. and there was no money coming in from M'bay due to Krishna Menon's embargo at that time). They can give u their almight blessing to drink as much feni as you like so long as you go into a deep meditating mood and not aggressive. Any thing is possible with Vatican Blessing. Afra.
[Goanet] Terrorist Threat to Goa
Dear Goanetters Donald wrote: donald arthur dsilva : GOA NEWS: Terrorist Threat to Goa In my opinion the State Government of Goa must take immediate steps to ensure that no premises, residential or commercial are leased out to anyone without first obtaining the NOC - No Objection Certificate from the Police Department like it is done in Mumbai. Will any one please give advice as to how or what channel we can use to put pressure on the Govt. Afra.
[Goanet] Muslim Bomber
Gabe wrote: Gabe Menezes [EMAIL PROTECTED] He was here for last eight months? Gabe, Being in UK u must realise the work that goes in inteligence gathering. IF that is what the Indian CID are doing after being trained in UK. And, yes u r right, the Muslim comunity are aware of the goings on, so are the Muslims in UK who did not raise their voice AT FIRST after the 9/11 tragedy. Afra.
[Goanet] Russian Tourist
Hi Goanetters, Quote: As a journalist, can you investigate and shed some light on the fish that appears to have attacked Sasha. Suggest YOU check out crampfish on the web and share your findings with goanetters! Cheers --- There is no need to be sarcastic, freak accidents do happen. If the Russian fell down and could not get up due to his weight and the slippery slops on the slippery watery conditions, it is tough. Freak accident, is my verdict. Afra.
[Goanet] SFX
Hello Goanetters, Will you please stop writing nonsense here and upsetting people? Saiba bogos temkamthe noko kitem boroitat tem! Deu Borem Korum Edward Verdes Socrates 500years BC had said - all I know is that I know nothing. He also said - life lived without questioning is a life not worth living. So What should I say to Mr Verdes? Saiba bogos tankam - Socrates and his like minded followers do not know what they are taking about. Adeos. Afra.
[Goanet] mummification
Hi Goanetters, What does Egyptian mummifying have to do with St. Francis Xavier, who was NOT mummified? Haven't you seen his remains? Had he been mummified his case would not have been considered a miracle. Besides, didn't you earlier say he was preserved because he was stored with the rest of the ship's cargo? - St Francis Xavier's body was not preserved in the ships cargo. The place where he was buried in China on the banks of the river constituted of lime, its the lime content of the soil that was the cause of the preservation. Afra.
[Goanet] Carbon dating
Hi Goanetters, Turin shroud 'older than thought' Tests in 1988 concluded the cloth was a medieval hoax. The Shroud of Turin is MUCH OLDER than suggested by radiocarbon dating carried out in the 1980s,according to a new study in a PEER-REVIEWED journal. good wishes jc -- I would like to know what other method other than 'carbon dating' was used, to say that it is much older? The case is now closed, Vatican has accepted that IT IS A FAKE. Afra.
[Goanet] Turin Shroud Miracles
Hi Goanetters, It bugs me now to justify the miracles that took place, which people said they did, when they touched the cloth. The cloth was and is a hoax, what about the miracles? Are they still happening? Or people go to scrutinise it only. No kneeling down and prayers said in front of it, except for the ignorant who know no better? Afra.
[Goanet] Goan Saint
Dear Goanetters, MGoveia wrote: 'Is St. Francis Xavier's undecomposed body a fake?' St Francis Xavier was buried in a Bog containing Lime, and anything buried in lime or bog-marsh is preserved for a very long time, it eventually starts to decay. Afra.
[Goanet] Templer
Hi Goanetters, 'Templar Knight was tortured and crucified during the early 1300's according to Freemasonry historians Chris Knight and Robert Lomas in their book 'The Second Messiah''. --- Once it is in 'public domain' it is open to any one to proclaim it is theirs. Where were the 'free masons' BEFORE the shroud was announced as FAKE? Secondly, paint was evidently found on the shroud therefore it was a painting, if there was NO PAINT free-masons would have had no chance of comming in to claim it. Thirdly free-masons do not crucify people, they hang them with bricks in their pocket (for extra weight. etc - their ritual of killing). Were there crucifictions going on in the 14th century? I thought crucifiction was a Roman Official affair, which had long since died out together with their Empire. Afra.
[Goanet] Stigmata
Hi Goanetter, As I said before there is NO SUCH THING AS 'STIGMATA'. Fr Pio as he aged he found it more and more difficult to go through the daily ritual of puting acid on his hands and feet, so he did not appear at the window and IF he did he had his hands covered, three was a special casoc made for him to hide the dissapearing evidence. As for Religion vs Science. Religion is based on belief, and myth. Science is based on, 'it is true only if it is proven' and there is no closed- door investigation like the Vatican is famous for doing, to fool people, The world is not 6000 years old, we all know that, therefore science vs religion? Science wins hands down. Afra.
[Goanet] Stigmata
Hello Goanetters, This article appeared in 'The Examiner' www.the-examiner.org People throng Carmelite convent to meet nun with stigmata People have to be very vigilant against forged sufferings done by monks and nuns who are in seclusion from the rest of the world. Fr Pio is an example he was a Brother almost all his life because he was too stupid to be a father, but was made a father as he matured. It has now come to light that he mutilated his own body with acid to depict the suffering of Jesus. Vatican knows about this, but keeping quiet, so as not to upset the believers There is no such thing as Stigmata, but ignorant people will still believe in it 'because they want to'. Afra.
[Goanet] Rave Parties
Hi Goanetters, To quote: 'Tourism Minsiter Dr Wifred D'Souza is unimpressed. Who cares about those tourists who want the rave experience. There are many tourists who do not want it either. Anyway, we have not banned rave parties, anyone can have a party until 10 pm, he says' What is wrong with that. The mines in UK have closed, the miners said what will happen to us? The computers came, the office people said what will happen to us? Chai-walee MUST be the one who is stashing all the drugs in Goa. Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Uncle Aunty
-- || |Goanetters annual meet in Goa is scheduled for Dec 27, 2005 @ 4pm | || |The Riviera Opposite Hotel Mandovi, Panjim (near Ferry Jetty/Riverfront)| | Attending...drop a line to [EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Hi Goanetters, The remark made by a Netter referring to Muslims or Hindus calling him Uncle is the most abonimable and inflamatory remark I have heard on this forum and nor worth further discussion. It just reveals the person's character and mindset. Lets leave it at that. That's nice coming from you isin't it? Why bring it up if u think it should be burried? Its buggung you? then get it out, and that's what 'YOU' did. During the riots in 1945 how come the Muslims new who the Hindus were? Leave it at that? NO! History teaches us lessons - so that we do not forget and make the same mistakes over over again. It is the small things that the world ignored what Hitler did, eventually it turned out very nasty. Ignore it at ur peril - is what the west have learnt. They ignored the 'one man' in Indonesia who said Tsunami was inevitable he was also sacked from his Govt. job for raising the issue - look what happened! Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] St Thomas/Christianity
-- || |Goanetters annual meet in Goa is scheduled for Dec 27, 2005 @ 4pm | || |The Riviera Opposite Hotel Mandovi, Panjim (near Ferry Jetty/Riverfront)| | Attending...drop a line to [EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Dear Goanetters, Thanks for the article by A Dsouza - The religion is believed to have been introduced by St. Thomas,. It is not believed, when you say 'believed' means there could be a suspicion, and there is a choice. St Thomas DID come to Kerala, There are signs that he was there. There are also Roman coins spread all over Kerala. St Thomas's Gospel that he wrote is in the monestary in Syria. Why are there only 4 Gospels, when St Thomas wrote one, begs a question, - is there racism involved in here? Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Chacha or Chachee
-- || |Goanetters annual meet in Goa is scheduled for Dec 27, 2005 @ 4pm | || |The Riviera Opposite Hotel Mandovi, Panjim (near Ferry Jetty/Riverfront)| | Attending...drop a line to [EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- HOW CAN ONE TELL IF ONE IS A MUSLIM HINDU OR PERSON FROM ABROAD? Hello Goanetters, I was born n bred in B'bay not M'bai. I deliberetly tied rope to my old suitcase so as not be supicious of my travel from abroad. (NOT TO BE CHARGED EXTRA BY THE TAXI PEOPLE) One lift man and the taxi driver (frank and open minded people - few who are in this world) said to me, 'u look like u are come from a foreign land but not your luggage' Similarly I can SMELL THE HINDUS AND THE MUSLIMS AND THE CHRISTIANS IN M'BAI. Not to mention their give away behaviour. So can the others, I'm not the only one. TAKE NOTE. Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Goans sleepwalking?
-- || |Goanetters annual meet in Goa is scheduled for Dec 27, 2005 @ 4pm | || |The Riviera Opposite Hotel Mandovi, Panjim (near Ferry Jetty/Riverfront)| | Attending...drop a line to [EMAIL PROTECTED]| -- Hello Goanetters, Thanks to Dr Barad. Who said, Frankly to me any party is like feathers of same bird All that each party does is Divide the public and Rule the State. Not many are as educated as you are Dr. If we were we would all be doctors. All the same I applaud your stance on this issue. People need to be shown the right from the wrong. And others should take heed when they are told that they are wrong. Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] No fear of Lager Louts
-- |Goanetters annual meet in Goa is scheduled for Dec 27, 2005 @ 4pm | || | Watch this space for more details | || -- Hi Goans, There is no fear of - If the decline and fall of Spanish resorts is anything to go by, British lager louts will ensure that the former Portuguese colony is very quickly transformed into the Costa del Goa. - Because the lager louts cannot afford the Goans flight no matter how cheap - unless it goes below £100/-. Then and only then they will have over £100/- to spend on booz. Besides lager louts go to Spain with great drepidation, only because one lager lout has been there another follows, IF THAT ONE LAGER LOUT IN GOA IS TOLD HOW TO BEHAVE - He will put the REAL lager louts OFF going to Goa. Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Lessons from Muslims in the west
-- |Goanetters annual meet in Goa is scheduled for Dec 27, 2005 @ 4pm | || | Watch this space for more details | || -- Hello Goanetters, GL says this: How do Asians in the west adress this issue and more importantly preempt it? Our current attitude of apathy and it is not us attitude will get us nowhere. If we Indians and Goans do not take the trouble to teach our surrounding community (colleagues, neighbors and friends) about us, any extremist anywhere can cause utmost problem for us and our children. It is amazing that we rich Indians do not appreciate what is at stake for us, our children and our community. Kind Regards, GL What are u on about Mr GL. I heard on the BBC that the Lebanese Muslims went to the Beach and provoked the bathers telling them to dress and do not sun bath half naked. India Riots were created by the Muslims. If they do not find Christians or Hindus they fight among themselves. Thats what we have tp propagate. A goan was beaten almost to death in Australia any way. His head had to be patched up and then the culprits were allowed to go to UK. Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Goan Sausages
Hi every one, Rene said - Please support Roy Furtado ...I believe he deserves all our support. thanks. rene But what brand name is it and where stocked (available). Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Chacha or Chachee?
Hi goanetters, Quote: (Afra Dias wrote: When a Hindu/Muslim in Goa calls me 'Untie' I tell them since when did I become ur Aunt. It is a 'p*ss take' as far as I'm concerned.) That's in bad taste, Afra! Never thought you're that type! -- RKN -- So! Have you come accross a Hindu or Muslim child call their own kind Auntie? Why do they pick on Christians to call them Uncle or Auntie? Why not Chacha or Chachhi? as a blanket cover regardless of religion? Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Expats
Dear Goanetters, Vivian wrote: 'And woe be on you when you are older, for you are looked upon as a has-been, Respect for the elderly is absymal' Have been to your GMC in Goa and seen the conditions there? Have been a victim of someone in your family beeing sick and taken to Hospital there? I have been! Goa is not the place to be sick and old. Vivian! one does not have to be a doctor or a lawyer to live a comfortable life in Europe. Haven't you heard - 'the less you know the better you sleep'? U may be called an Uncle in Goa. When a Hindu/Muslim in Goa calls me 'Untie' I tell them since when did I become ur Aunt. It is a 'p*ss take' as far as I'm concerned. Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] SFX - continued.
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Hi Goanetters, This is what Gilbert wrote in the last mail: His writings to the Portuguese King and his own Jesuit superiors strongly condemned the Portuguese (White European) actions against the natives (Goans). In his letters, he spoke about the appalling social and moral behavior of the colonists - drinking, robbing, multiple mistresses and prostitution. Consider how difficult it was to promote Christ and Catholic faith to the natives when your own kind / Christ's followers are behaving like this. :=)) By far one of the most common causes of death among the Portuguese in Goa was Syphilis in the 16 and 17 century (pre-penicillin era). Even during the inquisition, SYPHILIS killed a lot more Portuguese than the Inquisition which was introduced to enforce more stricter morals and behavior codes on the Portuguese military and civilian authorities. It is my analysis that this may have been one major reason, native Goans (Catholic and Hindu) looked down on the (white) Portuguese and social contact including marriage with them was frowned. That was a cultural trait developed by the natives to protect themselves and their society from these western (STD) diseases. Kind Regards, GL This is linked with the 'race'. Half the Goan Christian population is 'Fair'. Pure South Indian population is not of a 'fair skin' kind. This is where 'thalasaemia' comes in. European/Mediterenian (or Greek to be precise) blood disorder. Conclusion? 1/2 the goan population is of a mixed race. Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Same old question - AIDS
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Hi Goanetters, The topic about: No marriage certificate without AIDS-free certificate in Goa PANJIM, Dec 2: Health Minister Dayanand Narvekar said that the government would soon amend the Civil Code to make AIDS-free certificate mandatory at the time of marriage registration The same old question raises its ugly head again. I have discussed this question about AIDS vs Thalasaemia before. Greek Church has compulsory Thalasaemia Certificate before marriage. Are they missing something? or Are we! Afra. -- |Goa - 2005 Santosh Trophy Champions | || | Support Soccer Activities at the grassroots in our villages | | Vacationing in Goa this year-end - Carry and distribute Soccer Balls | --
[Goanet] Weddings Mass
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- The nuns n priests must have also seen this when they interview the child for school admission and that may also be one of the reason to implement this rule strictly. Rgds Edward Verdes Afra says: Too true, you hit the nail right on the head. We should support the Bishops and let them do their job. There are some individuals who delibreately fall in love with diverse opposite sex, eg some like to marry drunks, others wife beaters, some gamblers, that is the way they choose their life INADVERTENTLY. They will NOT follow the rules any way. So, the Bishops (authority) have to come in and lay the law. Like it or lump it - we have to follow it to keep it straight. Afra.
[Goanet] No Wedding Mass for mixed marriages in Mumbai
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Dear Goanetters, I for once fully agree with the Bishops. Decision made by nuns or joe public, it will always be a controversy. For a start Muslims will never ever come to church. So it is just the Hindus we are talking about here. Buddhism is Atheism any way, so it doesn't matter either way for them. There was a time when the Church did not want to use the 1 to 9 Nos. They beheaded a few people who used them and burnt them as well, Vatican made it their duty to compell every one to use Roman Nos. So here we go - multiply CLVII by XXII and see what we get. Soon or IN TIME the Vatican had to eat their words. If it was not for the Vedas the Vedantas and Astrology people would not have gone to the Moon. Because you just can't do a simple multiplication quick enough to go to the Moon. Coming back to Wedding Mass in Church, there should be a compromise. How can a Hindu attend a Catholic Mass? Well!! go to POTTA and see for yourself. Sincerely, Afra
[Goanet] Prayers for Penha
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Hi Goanetters, What is wrong with some of you? I asked for an understanding of a topic which has confused me. I did not ask for a prayer, absolution or pardon. This is why the protestant Religion started in the first place. People did NOT question the rules of the Vatican. Vatican make rules and then they charge you money if you want to break the rules they have made. Here is what I'm talking about: On Oct 31, Afra Dias wrote: but someone said, Penha means foot = foot of France Does that mean our lady of the foot of france? Response: My God, I believe, I adore, I hope and I love Thee. I beg pardon of Thee for those who do not believe, do not adore, do not hope and do not love Thee (Pardon prayer) Can someone please pray for the prayer of this emotionally confused prayer praying person? He has got prayer for every prayer that prayer there is, even if you don't need his prayer he has got a prayer for that prayer too? Afra Dias.
[Goanet] Penha
-- | Add your name to the CLEAN GOA INITIATIVE | || | by visiting this link and following the instructions therein | || | http://shire.symonds.net/pipermail/goanet/2005-October/033926.html | -- Alfred Says: The village on the bank of Mandovi is named after Nossa Senhora de Penha da Franca and not after a place. Same as N S de Fatima, -- de Lourdes, --Guadaloupe and so on.. Alfred. Thanks Alfred, but someone said Penha means foot = foot of france. Does that mean our lady of the foot of france?. Please explain, this has become confusing - (Santosh shut up! Joke!) Afra.
[Goanet] Re: Married Priests
My bigger question is to ask why the Catholic Church is seemingly secretive about the matter of married priests? Cornel DaCosta, London, UK. Ask Lourdeswammy he seems to know all the answers, he is in the Vatican bending backwards to please the Vatican Adminstration. People who fake wounds on their hands and feet are given special dispensation, and made a saint. But, the black exorcist Bishop who married a Chinese was not given a special dispensation, was he? Afra Dias (UK)
[Goanet] Fr Jose Vaz and Pdr Agnelo
Hi Goans, Mario replies: How do we know that racial prejudice was involved? Indian Cardinal Lourdaswamy is on the Vatican Council in Rome that determines these kinds of things. Maybe he can shed some light on the issue. -- No! He cannot shed light on these matters. He is getting free food and shelter in Rome, he does not want to kicked out of there, so he will do any kind of curry favouring (I could have used a harsher word) over there. How many Italians were given the Papal crown over others? How many of them were Freemasons? Why was pope John Paul murdered within 2 weeks? Does Lourdswamy know the answer to all these questions? Why was Fr Pio made a saint? when he FAKED the wounds on his hands and feet and the Vatican knows about this? Why Pio self inficted those wounds is not a theory but firm evidence. The answer is? Vatican is Racist and the Indians over there do not have a backbone, and are treated like door mats. Jose.
[Goanet] Firangi Saint?
If yes, why wait for a *firangi* in Rome to declare XYZ as *our very own saint*? Let's go ahead and declare to the world that XYZ is henceforth *our very own* native Indian Catholic saint. Lawrence Well done Lawrence. - the Irish do that, its about time we did the same. Secondly, when there is no decline in religious activity. Thirdly, when there is no income worth the Vatican's acknowledgement. They are not interested in declaring a saint. Electricity or no electricity we can always light a candle to OUR BELOVED 'MOTHER GOA'S SON' SAINTS. Joel.
[Goanet]Re: Emigration/Sikh vs Goans
Hi Fred, You know it very well but will not spell it out. Here it is: GOANS ARE NOT AS COOPERATIVE AS THE SIKH COMMUNITY. I went to a Goan FEAST party the other day and no one would talk to me because I did not come from their village. They were mostly from East Africa migrated to UK, they look down on Goans who come directly from India, and call them butlers and waiters. This sort of mantality does not help when it comes to developing our selves let alone community. Afra. (London) Fred said, Interesting! Goa may not have the migratory numbers when compared to other states like the Punjab, Gujarat, Andhra or Kerala. But people from Goa too have played pioneering roles (sometimes controversial, at other times immensely positive) in places like East Africa, the Persian Gulf when people still lived in tents and recall drinking sandy water, Burma, and cities like Karachi. So why are Goans simply so invisible in history? Is it that their tale has not been told? How do we change this situation? Can the Internet help? Questions, questions
[Goanet]Global parasite
Dear Goanetters, Having come accross your topic on the book Britain and Immigrants. I would like to say that a book called Global Parasites (isbn 81-85861-00-9) by Winin Pereira and Jeremy Seabrook is a better read. Afra Dias. (london)
[Goanet]Venting Aggression?
Hello Goanetters, So far, All the messages I have received appear to be from people venting their aggressions on this site. I am starting to think I made a mistake by venturing here. Please tell me I'm wrong and there are some friendly discussions here.Thanks Louise(UAE) Afra Says: That's not enough,- you have not contrubuted ur topic of discussion. And, NOW, do not say I'm bashing ur opinion - it is valid but we want more meat, to chomp into. Afra. (london)(not a UK or US passport holder either)
[Goanet]Re: Religion Bashing?
Dear Goanetters, gilbertlaw said to Fred: 'If you are serious about addressing the issue of disparity and victims of bias, there are better ways. And there are also more productive ways to help society overcome inequities rather than playing one group against another. No one has done more to educated poor and lower caste Goans (including many on this net)than the Catholic Church and bring them up from the bottom of the social cycle. (Yet we see a lot of Catholic Church bashing on this forum)'. Caucasians came to India not to educate the poor but to trade (I will not say r**, in case this mail is not published)spices gold and diamonds. Missionaries were spies in disguise, An African President (I forget his name now) once said 'the white missionaries came, made us read the bible and while we had our heads burried in the book, they robbed us of our property and wealth behind our backs.' Mr gLaw is one of those who cannot see beyond his nose. Afra (london)
[Goanet]Re: Caste System
...Clinton wrote Hello, I read your advert on cybermatrimonials and have the following to say to you: Shame on you! It's a shame that you believe in caste in this day and age. I know not what my caste is and am not interested in learning about that either. It is only small- minded people that believe in caste. I do hope others also inform you that you are misguided in your beliefs. Clinton.. Afra Says: Are you going to marry that girl? Then mind your own business. Find other topic to talk about. Don't play the same old record, shame on YOU. People are entitled to their belief in Religion and Caste Systems. Choice of schools, and choice of Partners too. Catholics like the Vatican are in the habit of dictating to people. Afra. (London)
[Goanet]NRI phone call
or just dial from UK 08444394646 then at a prompt, dial the full Goa/Indian No. It will cost you just 3p a minute. No a/c needed. Pl Note: I have not tested this service, however, a call was made to GOA on 2nd july for 8.37minutes and BT call advise service tells/says it cost total 38p (this will only be confirmed once the bill updated online). Some of my friends used it before and said they were charged 3p plus the BT charged them the normal price. I don't know how true this is. Check it for urselves (when the bill comes - till then be cautious). I use Alpha telecom.
[Goanet]Christian Bashing?
You have missed the whole point from my writing. I regret that agnosticism will not allow you to see more than what you want... Ivo da C.Souza Dear Goanetters, I think Fr Ivo has got it all wrong. Any one who raises their opinion is a 'Christian Basher'? God is a man made belief. Bible is a history, writen by 5 different tribes who lived in the desert. It is not the word of God/s. If you want to call it the word of God - good luck to you. Santhosh is entitled to his opinion, and there are many who agree with him. Bible Floods did not take place in America or India it happend only in the Desert, God had nothing to do with it. Manna did not come down from Heaven, - In America frogs rain down from the sky - got nothing to do with God. In UK Tomatoes and fishes rained down from the the sky - nothing to do with the Gods. These are natural phenomenons that happened and has been recorded by the people of the desert, THERE WERE NO OTHER BOOKS. Only these books existed; that does not mean it is the word of God. Afra Dias. (london)
[Goanet]Re: american indians
Arjun wrote: They migrated to America from Asia but they are of Sino-Mongolian stock not of Aryan-Malay stock. To follow the pattern I would call them American Chinese rather than American Indians ... How about that? Arjun Afra says: Bullshit. MODERN people migrated along the coastal lines from Africa. Modern DNA testing has proved that. Afra Dias (London)
[Goanet]Steel plant
Mr Colaco wrote: Strange how Goa which is/was rich in iron ore was not allowed to build mini steel plants. Neo imperalism has left us in the dark! B. Colaco Afra says: To smelt Iron Ore we need Lime Stone. From where was it going to come and by what means? During Port. period there was no infrastructure, it is just about happening now. Things do not happen, just because of ones say so. I hear there is a Rubber Tree plantation going on in Goa, so why not a rubber plant? Afra Dias. (London)
[Goanet]American Indians
Hi All, Santosh wrote: else the Red Indians? The politically correct term is American Indians. They migrated to America from Asia. You are now dealing with entirely separate continents. Cheers, Santosh Afra Adds: Before any one disagrees with Santosh, I must add that he is correct. Afra Dias (London)
[Goanet]Re: Non Goans
Santosh wrote: All Goans are non-Goans. All of them migrated from elsewhere - places such as Chhota Nagpur, Central Asia, Europe and Africa. Cheers, Santosh. Afra says; RUBBISH! What proof have you got. Where as, Goans did migrate to Mangalore. Afra Dias (London)
[Goanet]Thalasaemia Payers
Hello All, Quote: Afra has been known to write crap on this forum before. In fact jc has just brought out some of her 'tosh'!!! We who have faith, do so because we have met our Saviour, and not for any of the reasons that Afra mentions. Is she or does she think she is an authority on every subject? Or is this just a case of sensationalisation, seeking attention? I just wonder! All I can say is that we need to hold her and other like minded persons in our prayers, so that they may be enlightened some day. Each one's faith or belief is their own personal thing, and no one has tried to impose it on Afra or anyone else. So I fail to understand the acidity in her thoughts against those who believe. Maybe it was her lack of faith and total trust in God that has led her to think that God had failed her. Well, lets all say a prayer for her. And finally I wont be surprised if someone else rises to her rescue! Well we will pray for those persons too!!! And finally, please understand that you do not have to respond and always have the last word! Afra wrote: My intention is not to have the last word. People who pray do, they always say 'I will pray for you' and leave. That is precisely what I meant, THEY are the people who want the last word in, therefore CONTROL FREAKS. If nothing on earth works - MY prayers will.(superstition and control). About Thalasaemia; it was not Attention Seeking. If in Greece the couple who are getting married have to have a compulsory 'Test Certicicate', why do the bishops in India want to have a compulsory HIV test? and not Thalasaemia? That was my question. Is this attention seeking? To tell people that in India there is such a thing as Thalasaemia. And Dr Santosh says - Is this a wind-up? Is Dr Santosh a Medical Doctor, or is HE a wind-up. Afra Dias. (London)
[Goanet]Unchristian
Afra Dias wrote: Dear 'Whoever you are', Typing in Bold letters in itself tells me that u r Psychologically Traumatised and deserved every bit u got. You are still not mentally OK. You went to Jesus coz he does not shout back at you while the others on earth DO... please, thats not in good taste. ## - I too agree with Salus , i also believe that the post is Un_Christian -- Afra says: May be coz u r Christian u took it as anti, it was anti Religion. Any one who goes to god or gods, does so out of desperation. 1. They cannot control the situation they are in. Therefore they are control freaks (like it or not) 2. They go to god coz s/he does not say things against you, secondly coz the people in this world have failed your expectations, therefore u ask the gods to interfere on your behalf. (again to gain control) Those who go to god are either control freaks (priests/pundits/mullhas etc.) or frustrated control freaks (ordinary people who could not gain control by fair means or foul). Afra Dias (london)
[Goanet]Property in Goa
Afra Dias wrote: Dear Goencars, What Jose Colaco is saying is absolute 'tosh'. Gaonkar in English means Citzenship - not of the country, but of the village s/he is born. What right has a foreigner like Jose Colaco got to come to our village and tell us what we should do with their ancestral property which our grandfathers acquired by working on the ships etc? ___ _ Reading Afra'a views got me thinking... Would Afra let me know where she has property in Goa, and if she is willing to give it to me for free Wouldn't that be just great? Thank you Afra, you are so kind, and so generous. Just let me know when you manage to effect the transfer of title etc!!! - Yes! keep thinking. In this world you don't get nothing for nothing. Hven't you realised it by now Afra Dias.(London)
[Goanet]apology to JC
Sorry JC, my mistake. Someone has generously owned up to it. Afra Dias. May I (in polite British Ingliss) ask which of Jose Colaco's Tosh writings Thou referest to? I do not wish to argue any village citizenship - BUT please advise IF you are stating that Jose Colaco wrote the segment you have quoted. good wishes as always jc (a foreigner to London)
[Goanet]Re:
From: peu De goanet@goanet.org Hello dear friends ! I too clearly and blindly beleive and trust in JESUS CHRIST ALONE AND NOBODY ELSE CAN BE TRUSTED IN THIS SELFISH WORLD .HE HAS DONE WONDERS IN MY LIFE.PRAISE BE JESUS NOW AND FOREVER AMEN.!!TRUST IN HIM TOTALLY AND ALL THINGS WILL BE GOOD AND RIGHT WITH YOU. SPEAKING AFTER YEARS OF SUFFERING PHYSICALLY AND MENTALLY AT THE HANDS OF FAMILY NOW TOTALLY FREE.AND HAPPY.PRAISE BE JESUS ONCE AGAIN. A READER Dear 'Whoever you are', Typing in Bold letters in itself tells me that u r Psychologically Traumatised and deserved every bit u got. You are still not mentally OK. You went to Jesus coz he does not shout back at you while the others on earth DO. You do not like others telling you what to do because you are TOO PROUD. In which case Jesus, or Ram or Shiva or Fr Agnelo becomes the only solution. Many people do not realise that going to the priest for CONFESSION is in itself a psychotherapy, and the Padre gets to know what is going on in the village so that he has got some material for his sunday Homily. You people are too gullible. WAKE UP. Sincerly, Afra Dias. (london)
[Goanet]Pilar
JoeGoaUK wrote: For most of us, Fr. Agnelo means Pilar. Did you know that Fr. Agnelo was died at Rachol Seminary Chapel whilst saying mass? Did you know Fr.Agnelo was first buried there (at Raitura Cemetery)? I think he remained buried there for about 11 years. His mortal remains were then shifted to Pilar No wonder the Vatican are ignoring our pleas to make him a saint or a blessed, coz we don't even know where he was buried. We only go to Pilar for favours. (wrong place to go to). Sincerely, Afra Dias (london)
[Goanet]Gaonkar
This is my humble opinion and modern thought input to this issue. We have to give up our old ways and modernise. These days, there are no Clans Communes anymore; even families are disappearing under the impact of development and modern thinking. The Hindu unduvided family, has also disappeared by and large; I think its prevalent only for tax purposes; the tax office should outlaw this; certainly appears like a loophole for tax fraud. Dear Goencars, What Jose Colaco is saying is absolute 'tosh'. Gaonkar in English means Citzenship - not of the country, but of the village s/he is born. What right has a foreigner like Jose Colaco got to come to our village and tell us what we should do with their ancestral property which our grandfathers acquired by working on the ships etc? If he wants to buy, he is welcome to do so.The British are doing it, but to tell me to change my way of citizenship of my place of birth. I think Jose Colace is seriously wanting in some areas of his reasoning. Sincerely. Afra Dias. (london)
[Goanet]Sex Questions.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are so many questions about homosexuality that we do not know and dare not ask - including medical questions. What are these medical questions? Why do we dare not ask them? Cheers, Santosh Thanks Santosh. You made my day. 2500 years ago Socrates said, 'life lived without asking questions is a life worth not living'. Some people have not heard about Socrates. They only know Jesus, and do not want to know any more. Bye. Afra Dias (london)
[Goanet]Homosexuality
Dr.Santosh Kelekar wrote: I can accept homosexuality as normal because, as I stated earlier, psychological and sociological research has shown that it does not produce any adverse personal, interpersonal or social effects. *--First, does it not produce any adverse effects? Secondly, even conceding it, could we say that it is normal and morally right, because of lack of consequences? We have to deal with these two points. They are not rhetorical questions. They are thought-provoking. I leave it open for reflection... Dear All, Homosexuality IS normal. Adverse effect only on those who do not accept that homosexuality is a born gene effect on a person. A man with lots of testestorone will never in a million years want to behave as a homosexual by choice. Homosexuals are BORN THAT way. They cannot help it. Adverse effect only if they get married to each other etc. etc. Sincerely, Afra Dias. (London)
[Goanet]Hindu Gods
Dear Goans, As Indians we all should read the Vedas and the Vedantas. It has nothing to do with Religion. Ganesh is the god of numbers therefore planet Mercury is Ganesh. Vishnu is also named after Mercury, pick ur choice. Lakshimi is the godess of love, planet Venus is named after Lakshimi Brahma is the Saviour of the world (some say creator) planet Jupiter is the Brahma to the Hindus. In fact Jupiter IS the saviour of the world it attracts all the Comets and debris flying about. Without Jupiter we world would not exist today. Moon is god Chandra (male). Without the Moon we would not have seasons These are not Gods just 'gods' therefore not a Hindu Religion, if the Indians want to believe in it, its their choice. Man is born to believe in something. Now we have got a German, who knows nothing about the third world, as our Pope. We got 'God's Banker' murdered,(did not commit suicide) in London. We got Pope who was cremated, no Pope ever got cremated, EVER. Do not pick holes in other people's beliefs. Regards, Afra Dias. Gabe Menezes said: RESPONSE: Thanks for the enlightenment; please inform me, in the Hindu Religion do you have many Gods? Is there one Chief God and lesser Gods? I attended a wedding in Toronto and the Priest was supposed to be from the Kali temple. Is Kali a fierce Goddess, she was depicted as such. That aside it is to the credit of the Beer company, they immediately withdrew the commercial, as it offended the religious sentiments of the Hindus. They sought no justification, just withdrew unquestionably. Compare this with Shri Manohar Parrikar, who wanted to know what aspects of his, not too old, DVD did the Catholics feel offended about! cheers. Gabe Menezes. London England.
[Goanet]10,000 vs 15 million
Dear Goanetter, 'Humans or their hominid ancestors had not yet evolved in East Africa. The earliest hominids are thought to have evolved around 7 million years ago. Modern humans evolved around 100,000 years ago. Modern humans migrated to and settled in Greece no earlier than 10,000 years ago. The main mammals found in Greece 15 million years ago were dogs, hyenas, old world monkeys and some apes'. Cheers, Santosh OLD WORLD MONKEYS AND APES - DID HUMANS EVOLVE? OR THEY WERE HAND MADE OUT OF CLAY BY GOD. MONKEYS APES HUMANS WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE, EVOLUTION MY DEAR. MOSQUITOES BITE HUMANS AS WELL AS APES. Afra Dias (London)
[Goanet]Charter flights
Dear Goanetter, 'I guess that just means charters don't land in other airports, or hardly ever do. At least not in the numbers that the British (mainly) fly in holidayers in their version of modern mass tourism. But it is strange that Goa get's 92% of international charters to India but none (that we know of) of the international scheduled flights. Seems like some nasty conspiracy to let the charters in but keep the airlines out'. Charters land on an Indian Airforce Base. Special permission granted by them, and still the people are shoved around like sardines, imagine other airlines landing there as well. Goans cannot handle a 'pissup-in-a-brewery', they go to sleep lunchtime and don't get up till 5 in the evening. VIVA GOA. Goa Govt. workers don't go to work till 10.30 or 11.00 in the morning. And, if someone does go early, they take it in turns. Afra Dias. (London)
[Goanet]Evolution
Dear Goanetters, Afra, The Bible doesn't say that. Sincerely, Peter D'Souza All the AGES of people who lived since God created Adam right down to Jesus ARE recorded in the Bible. If u add them all up - it comes to 4353 years or there abouts. Add another 2000 years after Jesus was born and the total is 6353 plus or minus a few years. This has been done - if u have doubts do it urself Afra Dias. (London)
[Goanet]15 million years ago
Dear Goanetters, Santosh says. 15 million years ago there were no human beings in Greece or anywhere else, asAfra seems to imply. Without Thalassemia people would not have been wiped out or off, as Afra says. Thalassemia has nothing to do with the immune system. Some varieties of this disoder provide mild resistance to severe forms of malaria. That is all. Cheers, Santosh ARE U SAYING THE SAME THING AS THE BIBLE SAYS? - THAT, THE WORLD IS 6356 YEAR OLD? and that there were no CREATURES before that? Sincerely, Afra Dias (London) ** Greet your loved ones in Goa with flowers! http://www.goa-world.com/goa/expressions/ EXPRESSIONS - The Flower Shop. World famous all over Goa! **
[Goanet]Re: Thalasaemia
Dear Goanetter, Is Santosh saying that the Doctors and Hospitals in UK are wasting their time and money blood-testing all pregnant women in UK for this thalasaemia thingee? Have the Greek Clergy got it all wrong? All I'm saying is if the Greeks are doing it, the Hospitals in UK are doing it, and the Catholics have an issue about abortion, why not make the people AWARE of the situation and that the Church is the only source by which the people can be made aware off, not all surf the net. Afra Dias (London) I consulted my pathologist. She says that the information provided by Afra Dias is bogus on all levels. Thalassemia is indeed a genetic disease - a blood disorder caused by genetic defects in the hemoglobin. It was first described in 1925 by Cooley, as Jose said, not 10 years ago as Afra says. 15 million years ago there were no human beings in Greece or anywhere else, as Afra seems to imply. Without Thalassemia people would not have been wiped out or off, as Afra says. Thalassemia has nothing to do with the immune system. Some varieties of this disoder provide mild resistance to severe forms of malaria. That is all. Cheers, Santosh
[Goanet]Thalasaemia
Dear Goanetters, Jc is correct my mistake, it was Alexander. All the same I enjoyed Jc's joke. As for Santosh, This is not a wind up. Please consult any Pathologist, not ur local GP. GPs either ignore it or give u Iron tablets, saying u r anaemic. And if men take iron tablets, they are taking a risk. because GPs think that it is anaemia, it has been downgraded, as far as abortion is concerened it should be a priority. Afra Dias. (London)
[Goanet]Horses/Buses, what difference
Cornel Front end of a Horse Back end of a Bus. Leave Gabe alone - he has a good sense of humour. If it was not for Gabe, we would only have poetry on Goanet. Afra Dias. (London)
[Goanet]Goa Congress
Hi Goanetters, Veronicas article on Goa Congress and the politicians was excellent. The Church in Goa as she said should take a lead role in telling the people about the facts. The church is full of information, if it is not using it for the good of the public, what is the use of having it? Afra Dias. (london)
[Goanet]Dashing Prince Charles
Hello Goanetters, If some wants to call Prince Charles,DASHING, he is wlcome to do so. He may be a homosexual, admiring his own kind. In our mordern 21st century, on is allowed to have their opinon heard and free to practice. By the way - Didn't u see the funny side of his remarks? Afra Dias.(London) From: Salus Correia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Goanet]Royal announcement Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:33:25 +1100 If what Gabe says is true (stunning, vivacious, gorgeous} then there is definitely a dearth of real beauty in England!!!
[Goanet]Friends
Hi All, You may have read this, BUT. Ixtt vokot koxe, konnuch sarkem nokllot te koxea porim eka piddestak borem bhogoitat punn toxench te kortat. (Friends are like medicine, no one knows exactly how they make a sick person feel better but they do.) Moi-mogan, Domnic Fernandes Anjuna/Dhahran, KSA They also make u sick - Mr Fernandes. Hven't u noticed it? Yet! Afra Dias.
[Goanet]Re: Fr Vaz
The Article below was posted without the full content. What I wrote was: If Goans and Sri Lankans want Fr Vaz to be a Saint, they will have to stop going to church. When the attendance drop, the Vatican wakes up and gives people their Saint. Afra Dias Hi Goanetters, Fact of the matter is that, the below is true. Priests and experts will agree with me, silently it may be. That is why they will not raise their voice, on this website. If one reads his life story, it is incredible. For a start, priest in those days had to be wealthy. Poor men (boys from poor families) were not allowed to join the priesthood Afra Dias.
[Goanet]Re: Fr Jose Vaz
Hi Goanetters, Fact of the matter is that, the below is true. Priests and experts will agree with, silently it may be. That is why they will not raise their voice. If one reads his life story, it is incredible. For a start, priest in those days had to be wealthy. Poor men were not allowed to join the priesthood. Sincerely, Afra Dias
[Goanet]Fr Jose Vaz
Hi, Reading the asticle about Fr Jose Vaz. It is because of Fr Jose Vaz that the Catholic faith is in existance in Sri Lanka. BUT, is he made a Saint? NO! and why not. As long as the faithful go to church there is no need. Only when the people stop going to church, that the vatican decides to make saints to attract crowds. In recent years. The Vatican has made more European saints than ever before, and why? People do not go to church! Afra Dias
[Goanet]Unwanted Remarks
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## Mario Goveia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tariq, No, you can't. Are you as stupid and insensitive as this postings would indicate? Tariq is a very smart and sensitive man. He does not deserve to be called stupid and insensitive in a public forum. His postings are also no more stupid and insensitive than those of the above poster. Cheers, Santosh I suppose Mario has not heard about the phrase: 'It takes one to know one'. It is is not right to call someone 'stupid', in a public forum. An MP did it in UK Parliament and got expelled for it. Similarly Mario should be expelled from this forum. Joe Dias.
[Goanet]goans are great
## # Goanetters-2004 meet in Goa. Dec 21, Tuesday. 12 noon to 2 pm. # # Clube Vasco, Near Municipal Garden, Panjim. Pass the word around! # ## My experience of life tells me that there is some difference between Goans and others. We Goans are truly great. R.Cabral My experience tells me that there is very little difference between Goans and others. We seem to be no greater or worse than any other community. On average, we are well average. Regards, George My experience tells me that its the same difference, average or not. But there is nothing stopping Goans from thinking they are great AND wanting to be great. Try and try, one way or another. Its GREAT. J. Dias.
[Goanet]CM of Goa
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## will keep the other comments made by Miguel for the concerned patrakar or the P.hD. fellow to answer.And I fully concur with you, Miguel on your penultimate comment! Surely Manohar Parrikar is the best CM in Goa!Indeed! AlmeidaG(ji) Dear Goanetters, Parikar is the BEST MANIPULATOR in the politcs of Goa. While the other CMs went to Australia and Canada on State Expenses to SHOW OFF, Parikar has stayed behind (he has no one over there to show off) cutting grass under their feet. Parikar is the 'TRICKY DICKY'. Sincerely. Joe.
[Goanet]AIDS
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## FALSE STATEMENT 1: We understand everything aboutAIDS. No scientific or medical entity has ever made the above claim. I challenge Frederick to show us evidence to support the above assertion. We know its origins and how it first came about. This statement is an exaggeration. We do know the origin of AIDS in the sense that it is most definitely caused by the HIV virus, which is known to be a newly emerged retroviral species. We also know that the first cases of AIDS were recognized in the US in 1981, and symptoms resembling those of full-blown AIDS were noted retrospectively in some individuals in the US, Sweden, Tanzania and Haiti as early as 1978. HIV has been isolated from the blood sample of a man belonging to the Bantu tribe in Belgian Congo, who died in 1959. Genetic tests of his virus have revealed that it could not have originated more than a few years before 1959. However, we do not know exactly how the virus originated, and how it mutated and jumped from lower primates such as chimpanzees into humans. WE DO KNOW how it first came about. Just like chickens have an ever present salomila bacteria in them. Monkey family have AIDS virus in their body. The Belgians - when they were experimenting on the Apes, and sending samples of internal organs to Belgium for disection etc, the virus got in contact with humans. Joe.
[Goanet]Americans
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Time to lighten up! 'FOR THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED BUSH'. Only in America...do drugstores make the sick walk all the way to the back of the store to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front. Only in America..do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries, and a 'diet coke'. Only in America..do banks leave both doors open and then chain the pens to the counters. Only in America..do we leave cars worth thousands of dollars in the driveway and put our useless junk in the garage. RESPONSE: Tim, your intent is double humour...but it is not cheap US-bashing. These are the people who voted BUSH. What is your intent ?? To aggravate ?? - TRUTH HURTS? Sincerely. Joe.
[Goanet]Goa Bashers
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Goans, Reply to message 12, dt.29th Nov. Goanet may not have the answers , don't waste your time here. Viva Goa. So you think Goans are stupid - DO YOU? It Takes one to Know one. You may not know the answer but WE do. This is not the forum to discus the Vatican in detail. - BUT. Vatican is the No1 follower of St Paul's teachings, with teaching of Jesus thrown in for good measure, it is not 100% Jesus, (Orthodox and Syrian etc Christians are the true followers of Jesus' teachings). Secondly, some Goaneters may not like any other topic other than Goa. How boreing - Majority of Goans are not discriminators. Sincerely, Joe.
[Goanet]Film Fest IMdb
## # If Goanet stops reaching you, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] # # Want to check the archives? http://www.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet/# # Please keep your discussion/tone polite, to reflect respect to others # ## Hi Goaneters, Every one in India and Goa only, keep talking about Int.Film Festival. No one outside of it knows about it. I have even hard about the Bermuda Film Festival but not Goa. Why is that? Because u have not heard of IMdb. Have You? Whatever films come out,or are coming out, they get mentioned in the IMdb. Grading of the films is published, for records,on www.imdb.co.uk or www.uk.imdb.com (film fans will find this useful) Film Actors(Male or female), advertise themselves on it. Goa film industry organising magnets have not heard about it? Wake up. Sincerely, Joe.
