Re: [h-cost] Question for 1920s reenactors
Thanks for the shout out for Summer by the Sea Cin, only a few hours until kick-off! On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Cin <cinbar...@gmail.com> wrote: > They're the same thing & used when waltz music gets absurdly fast at the > turn of the previous century. This should get you started: > http://www.libraryofdance.org/dances/ Search for the dance name & > there's > video. > > Most of the serious dance historians are off at this Vintage Dance week as > of yesterday. > http://www.vintagevictorian.com/2016summer-bythe-sea.html > --cin > Cynthia Barnes > cinbar...@gmail.com > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:10 AM, ruthan...@mindspring.com < > ruthan...@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > Hello the list, after so long… > > > > Doing a play (“Camping with Henry and Tom”) where the character Henry > Ford > > refers to two dances: The Ripple and The Newport. A quick Google doesn’t > > yiield anything. Did the playwright just make up these dance names, or > were > > they real dances around 1920? I’d very much like to hear from any > reenactor > > who has danced one or both, or even heard of one or both. > > > > Any help appreciated! > > > > —Ruth Anne Baumgartner > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Question for 1920s reenactors
In vintage dance circles we've done the Newport and the Ripple--they are real 1890s dance steps. The NEwport (sort of a limping step: NewportLeap back left, across LOD (gents) with a quarter turn, Side right and close, Side right and Close, Leap forward right (gents) with a quarter turn, Side left and close, Side left close..i.e.: {1&2&3,4&5&6}. Don't remember the ripple sequence of steps. On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 1:10 PM, ruthan...@mindspring.com < ruthan...@mindspring.com> wrote: > Hello the list, after so long… > > Doing a play (“Camping with Henry and Tom”) where the character Henry Ford > refers to two dances: The Ripple and The Newport. A quick Google doesn’t > yiield anything. Did the playwright just make up these dance names, or were > they real dances around 1920? I’d very much like to hear from any reenactor > who has danced one or both, or even heard of one or both. > > Any help appreciated! > > —Ruth Anne Baumgartner > > > > On Jun 9, 2016, at 11:14 PM, Christine Robb <c-c...@conundrums.ca> > wrote: > > > > (Retrying - originally sent May 30 but it failed to be delivered) > > > > Best website with a couple of pictures: > > http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/kitchener-waterloo/guelph- > museum-lady-duff-gordon-lucile-1.3566150 > > > > Heard about this exhibit on the radio today. There's a longer call-in > > radio show here: http://www.cbc.ca/ontariotoday/episodes/ "For the > > love of Lucille" with people calling in to share stories about > > clothing that was personal to them in some way, and with some > > additional content about the exhibition, but the 5 minute clip on the > > first link is probably more informative about the exhibit. > > > > Runs May 7 - November 13, 2016 > > http://guelphmuseums.ca/event/lucile-fashion-titanic-scandal/ > > > > Christine > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Roman experts?
It really looks like a hood to me. I will forward to a friend who does Roman impressions. On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 2:35 AM, scourney <scour...@nwlink.com> wrote: > Hi, I'm looking at a job reproducing the clothes in a Pompeian fresco. I > think I've identified most of the clothing involved, but still have a > question on one thing. Any Ancient Roman experts out there? > The painting in question is the sale of the bread - > https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Sale_of_bread,_fresco_(from_Pompeii) > - I'm going with the seated man wearing a white toga over a white tunic and > the three in front wearing tunics and paenula of some dark color, but I > can't decide what the off white thing is. At first I thought cloak, cause > it looks like it is clasped on the shoulder, but it has that odd reddish > trim which almost looks like a hood. It looks too small to be a hood and > why the trim just in that spot? So I'm not sure what it is. > This is my first paying gig, so I want it to go well. > Thanks all, Susan Courney > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costumes in "War and Peace"
I don't see it as snarking either, the costume stills I've seen look particularly bad, especially for what one is used to seeing for BBC period productions. But the one shoulder evening dress, so odd, looks so modern and harsh, good for a ballroom dance performance. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Kate Bunting <katembunt...@gmail.com> wrote: > I wasn't snarking, merely asking for information. I thought the bare > shoulders were wrong for the period, even as "extreme" fashion, and wanted > to confirm my opinion. > > Kate Bunting > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 9:50 PM, Lavolta Press <f...@lavoltapress.com> > wrote: > > > Oh sure, I just don't understand why some people think it's so much fun > to > > get together and tear someone down. Which is really what's happening in a > > lot of those discussions. Some feel snarking is off limits with people > they > > know, but the movie/TV industry is fair game. > > > > Fran > > > > > > > > On 1/5/2016 1:14 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: > > > >> If we all liked the same thing, there would only be vanilla ice cream, > as > >> they say. > >> > >> > >> Ann Wass > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Lavolta Press <f...@lavoltapress.com> > >> To: Historical Costume <h-cost...@indra.com> > >> Sent: Tue, Jan 5, 2016 2:17 pm > >> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costumes in "War and Peace" > >> > >> I gave up on snarking at movie costumes many years ago. Movies are > >> fiction. They are not documentaries, they are not meant to be > >> educational, and they are not made primarily for viewing by historic > >> reenactors. In many, much of the history itself is, at best, > speculation. > >> > >> I don't watch movies for the costumes. I watch them to see whether it's > >> good drama and looking for things to criticize just spoils the drama. > >> When I want solid information I look elsewhere. And really, some of the > >> Facebook discussions sound just like catty little junior-high girls > >> gleefully tearing down each other's clothes. > >> > >> Fran > >> Lavolta Press > >> www.lavoltapress.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/5/2016 2:59 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: > >> > >>> Some of my Facebook friends are following. No one shoulder bare, or > >>> many, many, other things. I know it's theater, but even allowing for > that, > >>> seems very weird. My opinion is, even though it is a story, it is > based so > >>> firmly in a historical time and place, it seems downright strange to > go off > >>> on such flights of fancy. Wonder if there will be a "making of" > wherein it > >>> is explained? > >>> > >>> Ann Wass > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >> h-costume mailing list > >> h-costume@mail.indra.com > >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > >> > >> ___ > >> h-costume mailing list > >> h-costume@mail.indra.com > >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > >> > >> > >> > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costumes in "War and Peace"
Absolutely, I worked on that show, dressing mannequins when it came to Boston. Opening up a Renaissance dress and seeing a big honking zipper and padded bullet shaped bust cups was so funny. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 12:00 PM, Viv Watkins <croxt...@vivwatkins.plus.com> wrote: > There is a fascinating book - "Hollywood and History - Costume Design in > Film" which looks how costume designers present historical dress. It was > published in 1988 to accompany an exhibition mounted at the Los Angeles > County Museum of Art. Part of the foreword says "Contemporary viewers are > not aware that the costumes reflect their own standards of style and beauty > - that the cave-dwellers' costumes are cut to emphasise the 1940's > silhouette, that the antebellum dresses are made with 1930's bias-cut > fabrics. It is only with the passage of time that one can see clearly how > all-pervasive the designer's contemporary aesthetics have been." It is one > of my favourite costume books, it has given me an extra layer of fun when I > watch the wonderful old movies. > > Viv Watkins. > > -Original Message- From: R Lloyd Mitchell > Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2016 3:20 PM > To: Historical Costume > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costumes in "War and Peace" > > Re the styles of dresses, I still have to chuckle at the 18th C > interpretions in films of the '20s-30s where the gowns have dropped waists. > In an earlier production of W the fashion tone is Audrey Hepburn all the > way. It seems that one can peg the date of the film release by the tweaked > styles that give a nod to contemporary fashion. Other interesting film > studies are the costumes for Victoria and Albert and Dr Zhivago.The latter > spawned a popular contemporary Fashion..the Maxie dress line. > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian lace curtains (Re: What costume-related gifts did everyone get?)
John Burrows lace curtains are lovely, I have some in my house. They're made on historic looms in Scotland. On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Christine Robb <c-c...@conundrums.ca> wrote: > On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 10:12:19AM -0800, Lavolta Press wrote: > > In terms of what I'm doing, right now it's making drapes. Or more like, > buy > > curtain rods, return half of them because they're theoretically Arts & > > Crafts style but they're ugly, buy more rods. Buy brass electrical > plates, > > return half of them because they are a lovely Art Nouveau style but > > oversized so would overlap the baseboards, buy smaller ones. Order > swatches > > for curtain material, half haven't arrived because the fabric store > owners > > are busy this season. Meanwhile, kitchen contractor goes on vacation for > two > > weeks. We won't actually be moving to Sacramento till March at this rate. > > > > On the bright side, I found out that if you want more or less Victorian > lace > > drapes (I'm not claiming 100% accuracy), try those Quaker Lace brand > > tablecloths that are all over eBay and Etsy every day, often at low > prices. > > You can easily get them in 100% cotton. Just sew on curtain rings. Many > of > > the expensive repro Victorian curtains actually look like tablecloths, > with > > a large central motif and borders all around. Matching the shade of > > off-white for several windows in a room is a trick but can be done. > > I haven't ordered anything from him, but he's well known in social > dance circles so some of you may know him too: > http://www.burrows.com/ > > He's done work at the MFA in Boston, tv shows, the list goes on. > Beautiful photos on the website and facebook... I don't know my > Victorian lace curtains, but would be willing to bet these aren't the > tablecloth variety. > > Fran, I expect you know about them already, but in case not, > Rejuvenation and Lee Valley both sell hardware that might be of > interest. > > Christine > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going?
I think I've been here that long too (mid 90s)--mostly pn FB these days as the list is so quiet now. Katy On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:40 PM, penhalion <penhal...@juno.com> wrote: > > > I'm still around but I do most of my costume stuff on FB these days. I'd > be happy if this list perked up a bit. I've been here since '97. > > Karen > > > Happy Connecting. Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S® 5 > > Original message > From: Megan McHugh <me...@benchite.com> > Date: 12/17/2015 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: Historical Costume <h-cost...@indra.com> > Subject: Re: [h-cost] Is h-costume still going? > > Still here too, lurking but haven't been sewing much lately. > > - Megan > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 17, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Lynn Downward <lynndownw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I'm also here. You all predate me but I've been around for years and > years. > > > > I've noticed that h-costume and h-needlework have been quiet. I don't do > > much on FB so I'm glad to see some of us are still here. > > LynnD > > > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Kate Bunting <katembunt...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > >> I'm still here too. I don't do much sewing but am still involved in > >> historical reenactment. > >> > >> Kate Bunting > >> > >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Catherine Olanich Raymond < > >> ca...@thyrsus.com> wrote: > >> > >>>> On 12/17/2015 09:38 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I have been getting the monthly reminders from indra.com, but I have > to > >>>> admit I don't read them. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I also have something to share--this is based on the paper I gave at > the > >>>> Jane Austen Society of North America's annual general meeting in > >> Louisville > >>>> in October. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> http://www.jasna.org/persuasions/on-line/vol36no1/wass.html > >>> Thanks for the URL, Ann! > >>> > >>> My attempt to respond to the "is the list still going" post also drew a > >>> rejection message. Hopefully this will get through. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Catherine Olanich Raymond > >>> ca...@thyrsus.com > >>> (610) 805-9542 > >>> > >>> "Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I > learn." > >>> Benjamin Franklin > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> h-costume mailing list > >>> h-costume@mail.indra.com > >>> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > >> ___ > >> h-costume mailing list > >> h-costume@mail.indra.com > >> http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > Cheryl's Cookie Gifts > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/5672fc5629d067c526276mp24duc > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Elizabeth Bull wedding dress
I have detailed pictures of this dress--from it's unveiling party--I can post them when I have the chance. It is amazing embroidery On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Marie Stewart maric...@gmail.com wrote: Amazing work. Thank you so much for sharing this with us. Bridgette / Mari On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote: Someone just shared this with me on Facebookbeautiful! http://bostoniansociety.blogspot.com/2015/07/a-look-at-elizabeth-bull-wedding-dress.html?m=1 -- -Sg- http://bostoniansociety.blogspot.com/2015/07/a-look-at-elizabeth-bull-wedding-dress.html?m=1 http://bostoniansociety.blogspot.com/2015/07/a-look-at-elizabeth-bull-wedding-dress.html?m=1 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Marie Stewart 607 793 3409 maric...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] medieval jewelry
Nice, thanks for posting On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Janet Davis bear_ja...@msn.com wrote: The Met is having an exhibit of medieval and renaissance jewelry : http://www.metmuseum.org/exhibitions/listings/2015/treasures-and-talismans?utm_source=MembersNewsletterutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=MembersNewsletterJune2015 Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?
It's been so slow-I too was wondering if the list was still active (I signed up for facebook in the fall). I was just thinking of asking a question of the list so I will do so in a separate message. Katy On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 1:39 AM, Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org wrote: Yeah, it has been quiet. We don't do Facebook because we're OLD, we do still believe in privacy and don't think much of the merchandising of FB info. The weekend just past was Kingdom 12th Night here in AnTir, that kind of thing might also obtain in other parts of the country??? Now let's see if I can get this to mail without creating duplicates, or just refusing to go at all. argh. chimene On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Hi, I haven't been getting any messages lately, until today-I got only one. Is the list especially quiet? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Anyone here?
I have to say, as a very small self-publisher of costume books, facebook has been good for my networking just by my posting comments and occasional pictures on costume threads in various FB groups. And it allows be to better keep up with friends across the country and the world. But I miss H-Costume from its active days. Katy On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:21 AM, Kate Bunting katembunt...@gmail.com wrote: I've been on this list for years; it used to be really busy. I assume the drop in numbers is because of the growth of social media. So far I've resisted joining Facebook. Kate Bunting Retired librarian 17th century reenactor. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org wrote: Yeah, it has been quiet. We don't do Facebook because we're OLD, we do still believe in privacy and don't think much of the merchandising of FB info. The weekend just past was Kingdom 12th Night here in AnTir, that kind of thing might also obtain in other parts of the country??? Now let's see if I can get this to mail without creating duplicates, or just refusing to go at all. argh. chimene On Jan 13, 2015, at 3:39 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Hi, I haven't been getting any messages lately, until today-I got only one. Is the list especially quiet? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Curious fashion in footwear - c.1869
I love the phrase: a style that suggested they'd recently stood barefoot on discarded Lego Thanks for posting this. On Sat, Jul 19, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Catherine Walton catherine.wal...@cherryfield.me.uk wrote: . . . a spice of wickedness as well as of folly . . . http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-magazine-monitor-28357269 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
Tis site has milliner's wire and plastic brim wire... http://www.hatsupply.com/wire.htm On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:45 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: I'm looking for brim wire and not having a whole lotta luck. Sources, anybody? The best I can find so far is Farthingales in Canada slower and with duty. I'm in the US. A millinery company wants a minimum order of $76-- their low price. Right. I looked for Janet Wilson Anderson's Raiments/ AlterYears but can't find a presence on the web?? I need 3 yd minimum, with crimpers/joiners for ends. Thanks, List! ==Marjorie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Brim wire!
I didn't realize it was the same site someone else mentioned... Good Luck! I wish Milliner's Supply in Dallas was still in business or Greenberg Hammer--I miss my old suppliers. On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Kay, their minimum order is $79 or something. . . alas! On May 9, 2014, at 3:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Tis site has milliner's wire and plastic brim wire... http://www.hatsupply.com/wire.htm ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] mailing costume to austria
Hello, I need to mail a costume to Austria and I am wary of the USPS getting it there in time, does anyone have recommendations of shipping companies, DHL, UPS, and FEDEX are the three that come to mind. Thanks. Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] friend going to Italy
Thanks! My friend is very excited to have shopping recommendations! katy On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.comwrote: There is a FABULOUS trim shop in Florence. They actually have 2 locations, at least they did in 2002, when I went. Passamaneria Toscana, Piazza San Lorenzo,12r, is the original store (since the 1950's). Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Katy Bishop Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 9:47 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] friend going to Italy I have a friend who is travelling to Italy next month, to Florence, Balzano, Rome and Genoa, with a very brief visit to Venice and Naples too. Doas anyone have any suggestions of museums or shopping for costume/textile/lace related things not to miss? I'm working on my wish list of what she should look for for me--living vicariously through my friend's travel... Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] friend going to Italy
Thanks! On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Kim Baird kba...@cableone.net wrote: In Bolzano, DO NOT MISS the Ice Man. You can see all his clothing and accessories. 5000 year old stitches! South Tyrol Museum of Archaeology http://www.iceman.it/ I recommend arriving first thing in the morning to avoid crowds. In Venice, everything is wonderful. I enjoyed the Palazzo Fortuny, which was once the home of Mariano Fortuny, and is now a museum. There's a Fortuny store as well, although not at the Palazzo. I wanted to go to the island of Burano, for the lace, but didn't have time. It is a beautiful place to visit. Kim -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Katy Bishop Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:47 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] friend going to Italy I have a friend who is travelling to Italy next month, to Florence, Balzano, Rome and Genoa, with a very brief visit to Venice and Naples too. Doas anyone have any suggestions of museums or shopping for costume/textile/lace related things not to miss? I'm working on my wish list of what she should look for for me--living vicariously through my friend's travel... Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] friend going to Italy
I have a friend who is travelling to Italy next month, to Florence, Balzano, Rome and Genoa, with a very brief visit to Venice and Naples too. Doas anyone have any suggestions of museums or shopping for costume/textile/lace related things not to miss? I'm working on my wish list of what she should look for for me--living vicariously through my friend's travel... Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Visit to Italy
I have fond memories of the Stibbert decades agowalking past cabinets crammed with costumes during our tour. It was a hidden gem. The Pitti was closed for renovation when I was there. I wish I could sneak into her suitcase. Thanks! On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:42 PM, A. Thurman athur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 2:00 PM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Send h-costume mailing list submissions to h-costume@mail.indra.com -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2014 12:47:02 -0400 From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: h-costume h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] friend going to Italy Message-ID: cafa41oep2jkc6hj6pwgeuf5tydmqo5hur1gzylxdyfxc3-g...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I have a friend who is travelling to Italy next month, to Florence, Balzano, Rome and Genoa, with a very brief visit to Venice and Naples too. Doas anyone have any suggestions of museums or shopping for costume/textile/lace related things not to miss? I'm working on my wish list of what she should look for for me--living vicariously through my friend's travel... Katy In addition to what others have said, in Florence check out the Pitti Palace - they have the Medici burial garments, and others: http://www.sbas.fi.it/english/musei/costume/default.asp http://archiviomedici.costume-textiles.com Not a museum, but Alice's Masks do beautiful, beautiful work: http://www.alicemasks.com/home.htm The Stibbert Museum also has a selection of costumes, including some of Napoleon's coronation garments: http://museostibbert.it/en/page/costumes Have fun, and I envy you the opportunity to go to Venice as well! Museo Fortuny all the way! Allison T. Also, for shopping (which includes a lot of art, fabric, and jewelry stores, in part catering to the conservation efforts of local museums), get this book: http://www.amazon.com/Civilized-Shoppers-Guide-Florence/dp/1892145472 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] dressed fashion plates
I got an interesting inquiry from a lady wanting to know about dressed fashion plates (Godey's plates or the like from the 19th century dressed in real fabrics, following the lines of the dresses pictured). Does anyone here know how early this was done? The earliest I am familiar with is the mid 20th century as a ladies home craft. I had a kids craft book in the 1970s with a dressed print project in it. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Theriault's
Wow thanks, these are amazing--makes me want to start that doll wardrobe for my little girl. Katy On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 4:59 PM, mhprobe...@gmail.com mhprobe...@gmail.comwrote: They have a new series of videos showing some fabulous mid to late 19thC dolls and costumes from the Hanne Büktas collection. I think episode 5 or 6 focuses on costume, but they all have plenty to see. http://www.youtube.com/user/theriaultdollauction Melissa Roberts ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] mildew stains
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get mildew stains out of white cotton? I have a favorite white cotton (or maybe linen and cotton) Victorian repro. blouse that was left damp and now it's mildew stained. Makes me so sad. Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian flat leghorn hat
I found an illustration from the Delineator from 1889, July that shows a similar hat, with the same off center wavy brim, from the back, and it seems to have a very low crown. Leghorn is a type of straw. Katy On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Emily Gilbert emchantm...@gmail.comwrote: I'm not an expert on this topic, but looking at the link to the fashion notes for the year, which refer to the curious and startling open-crowned coronet bonnet (toward the bottom of the left-hand column on that page), I'd say it's reasonably safe to assume that your leghorn does have a crown! Emily On 9/17/2013 2:11 PM, Lauren Walker wrote: Hi, Yes, the brim is wavy, but apparently that's a way of styling the leghorn flat, since the written description calls it a flat. (It's Fig. 2 in the descriptions here.) http://babel.hathitrust.org/**cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004176882;** view=1up;seq=185http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004176882;view=1up;seq=185 So frequently, the descriptions assume we know the contemporaneous interpretation of the terms; they knew how this season's leghorn was shaped, and weren't thinking of us 120 years later trying to figure it out! The previous issue's general discussion of fashion notes that the leghorn flat has made it's annual debut, and this year is twisted and bent as suits the wearer's fancy. http://babel.hathitrust.org/** cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004176882;**view=1up;seq=86http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004176882;view=1up;seq=86 I think I'm going with light, flexible straw -- that part of the definition of leghorn seems to have stayed pretty constant -- and hoping to use millinery wire to get the bends in the brim to stay put. Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net On Sep 17, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Lynn Downward wrote: As I recall, leghorn describes the type of straw the hat is made of. Also, that brim is wavy, not flat at all. It's a gorgeous hat! On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Lauren Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net**wrote: Hi, Working on the last of the four 19th-century fashion plates I'm recreating as doll outfits! I would like to check in with those more familiar with 19th-century millinery about the hat. It's an 1889 flat leghorn, according to Godey's text; I'm trying to confirm that it has a low flat crown rather than an open one or a completely flat one. (figure on the right): http://babel.hathitrust.org/**cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004176882;** view=1up;seq=109http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015004176882;view=1up;seq=109 Any thoughts? Thank you! (The third outfit was a nightmare; I remade it four times. Eventually I got the chiffon pleated in a satisfactory manner using a pleating board and plenty of starch, but no heat. There will be photos of all once the full project is done and the gift given to its intended recipient.) Thanks again for all your aid. This has been so much fun! Even the pleat nightmare. Lauren Lauren M. Walker lauren.wal...@comcast.net __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] martha pullen costume books
Has anyone seen these books (I found them on Hamiltonbook.com): Martha Pullen's Favorite Places Series They cover several Museums costume collections such as Kent State and the V A I am wondering if they are worth buying. Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pitti Palace Costume Collection
Has anyone been to the Stibbert Museum recently (I was there in the 1980s and there was case after case of hanging racks of costumes--I wanted to open all of the class doors, I hubg back from our tour as much as possible!. They have a large collection of costumes and I wonder if they've gotten better at exhibiting them. Our cab driver had a hard time even finding the museum. The museum is kind of an Isabella Stuart Gardner Museum--the collection of a rich young art lover... http://museostibbert.it/en/page/collections katy On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:54 PM, cheryl...@aol.com wrote: I visited the costume exhibit at the Pitti Palace in early June. It was interesting, but underwhelming. Perhaps I was jaded having recently visited the Victoria and Albert Museum in London and the Fashion Museum in Bath. The method of presentation was interesting at the Pitti Palace, juxtaposing fashion styles throughout history in the same display case to show influences. For example, a 20th Century example of an Empire waist from the 60's might be displayed with a garment from around 1913 as well as one from the Napoleonic Era. Even so, the collection is smallish. Cheryl Odom Santa Fe, New Mexico -Original Message- From: Charlene C charlene...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, Aug 16, 2013 10:01 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Museum reference Pitti Palace has a costume section, but doesn't appear to have any special exhibits at the moment (or at least none that are on their website): http://www.museumsinflorence.com/musei/costume_gallery.html http://www.sbas.fi.it/english/musei/palazzopitti/ --Charlene On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Pierre Sandy Pettinger costu...@radiks.net wrote: I have this vague recent memory of reading about a historical clothing exhibit at a museum in Florence, Italy that recently opened or will open soon. IIRC, it was roughly Renaissance era clothing. I think it might have been mentioned in Threads, but I can't locate my most current issue to check. Our nephew is going to be studying in Florence for about 6 weeks, and I wanted to pass along a request to go and take pics (if allowed) or buy the exhibit book (if there is one). Does anyone have any ideas of what I'm trying to remember? I need this info in the next couple of days, unfortunately. Thanks in advance, Sandy International Costumers' Guild Archivist http://www.costume.org/**gallery2/main.php http://www.costume.org/gallery2/main.php Those Who Fail to Learn History Are Doomed to Repeat It; Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - Why They Are Simply Doomed. Achemdro'hm The Illusion of Historical Fact -- C. Y. 4971 Andromeda __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costume http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Wedding in 1882
The dress you describe in the photo sounds like Fancy Dress costume. I have a great picture of my Great Grandfather and his daughter in historically inspired fancy dress, ca. 1900 or so. They lived in Vienna, Austria. I am waiting for the right vintage ball to copy their outfits. Katy On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Cathy Raitt cbellfl...@aol.com wrote: Fran, Thanks! The ceremony took place at 11:30 in the morning on June 1, but I'm sure she would have had occasion to need evening dresses - they spent the next few days at the White Sulphur (still a very high-class place!) and then on to New York before a honeymoon in England. If she was wearing long white gloves wouldn't that indicate that the dress had short sleeves? We have undated pictures of her in a light-colored gown with a square neck that appears to be trimmed in ermine. She's wearing a crown. Someone suggested that might be her wedding gown, but I don't think so, especially after reading this letter. Cathy -Original Message- From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wed, Jun 19, 2013 11:19 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Wedding in 1882 Early in 1882 she was probably wearing a dress with only a small bustle (the natural form era), though late in 1882 it would have been a larger bustle. She had on either a polonaise (long tunic) over a skirt, or a bodice/overskirt/skirt ensemble. Either the polonaise or the overskirt likely provided the back drapery. Her dress probably had a high day neckline and 3/4 or full length sleeves, but might well have had detachable parts (a front gilet, and lower sleeves) to turn it into a lower-necked, shorter-sleeved evening dress, especially if it was an expensive dress. Wedding dresses were often worn as evening dresses after the wedding, if the bride expected to attend many social events. Other than that, there's not enough detail to go on. The dress was likely off-white, but might have been colored, if it were to be used later as a day dress by a bride who did not expect to attend many evening events. As for the mother-in-law, a shiny fabric (satin) and glittering jewels (diamonds) were not mourning. You might be interested in my book Fashions of the Gilded Age, which contains patterns, images, and descriptions of wedding dresses in Volume 2. Fran Lavolta Press www.lavoltapress.com On 6/19/2013 7:38 PM, Cathy Raitt wrote: On a recent trip home I found a letter written by my great-great grandmother to her sister describing her daughter's wedding, which I have been trying to transcribe. The wedding took place at home and the bride's attire was described as a simple costume.Her veil was described, but not the dress itself. This is what I've been able to figure out so far. (Some of the words might not be exactly right - I'm still deciphering the handwriting!) The pure white --- veiling(?) trimmed with many rows of lace and with drapery of white watered ribbon at the back was very pretty. The veil a large square of tulle fell a little over her face and was caught on one side of the head by a cluster of natural white roses. Another bunch at the left side of the neck among the laces and a third larger upon the skirts holding the veils back a little. Black stockings slippers and long white gloves made up the t ensemble. The only ornaments were a beautiful Silver comb earrings sent her by Cousin... What would this dress have looked like? We haven't been able to find any pictures that could be this gown. She comments that the groom's mother looked uncommonly well in black satin lace. Some beautiful diamonds at her throat. Was it normal to wear black to a wedding? How long would someone wear mourning for a son? (The groom's brother had died in 1875.) Thanks! Cathy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Clothing order sent to London from Virginia in 1759
Thanks for the info, really interesting. Katy On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Michelle Plumb mpl...@wideopenwest.comwrote: Hello, gang. During my nightly reading I discovered this snippet about a clothing order sent to London, placed by a well-to-do Virginia planter's wife in 1759: “Hose and shoes – these of the smallest fives – a black mask, perfume, six pairs of kid gloves and six of mittens, and a multitude of small articles.” “Her particular want was of a negligee gown and coat of salmon-colored tabby with satin flowers and a cap, handkerchief, tucker and ruffles to match or blend. These were to be of Brussels or point lace at the stiff price of 20 Pounds Sterling.” Interesting, eh? Oh, by the way, the well-to-do Virginia planter's wife was Martha Washington. __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costumehttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] what is everyone working on?
I am working on two regency corded stays, they're so pretty! The cording is going in much more easily than I had feared. Then I need to make a Regency balldress for a friend. i keep getting lost on Pinterest looking for inspiration. Katy On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: I'm woefully under-inspired by my half-completed ragtime ballgown. So under-inspired that I have my nose in the Cosimo di Medici book (Moda Italia #2). Glad of a change of topic, --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com At 11:19 31/03/2013, you wrote: Now, on to the historical costuming side and not Fran's over inflated ego, what is everyone working on? Anyone else doing the Historical Fortnightly? -Isabella ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] University of NH exhibit
Hooray! Some friends and I are going to see the exhibit next Thursday, can't wait, it looks beautiful. Katy On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Astrida Schaeffer astr...@schaefferarts.com wrote: Hi everyone-- The Victorian embellishments book is finally well on its way through the design process, and I have a date (end of April) for it to get to the printer. I'm expecting copies in hand by mid-June. Pre-orders (and many more images of the exhibition) are now at www.schaeffferarts.com/embellishments. All pre-orders go toward printing costs! I'll also be posting a Kickstarter, hopefully tomorrow, with the same goal: raising printing money. If you pre-order from my site, it will be $30 plus shipping until mid-May; if you go through Kickstarter there will be many options with pledges of $50 or more including a book as well as other goodies. Thanks for all the interest! Astrida Schaeffer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] checking on a merchant
I have the Victoria boots and I love them, they were comfortable from the first wearing. Katy On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 5:44 PM, llwa...@juno.com llwa...@juno.com wrote: I'm getting ready for the Costume Con historical masquerade, and it looks like a shoe style from Fugawee (http://www.fugawee.com/index.htm) will be very close to what I need. However, I don't know anyone locally who's dealt with them. What are their shoes like? Do sizes run small/large, or pretty close to standard commercial sizes? (The shoes I'm looking at are straight-last, if it matters.) Any problems with orders? Leah ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Victorian Embellishments exhibit
I'm interested too, and close enough to see the exhibit! katy On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Astrida Schaeffer astr...@schaefferarts.com wrote: All who have expressed interest here so far are on the list ;) and I promise to keep h-cost updated as well. Astrida ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Old fashion paper
How interesting is the information on the page? Katy On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: I bought an antique puzzle, and in the box, used to pad the pieces, was a sheet of an old newspaper, The Cleveland Observer, dated April 21. 1928. AND it was the front page of the fashion section! Showing dresses and hats, etc. My question is, what should I do with it? It's rather torn, and yellowed. And I don't want to put it back in with the puzzle-non-acid paper is best for that. Do you think It's all on microfiche already? Should I attempt to tape the pieces back together? Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The new Anna Karenina
Look up the Sophie Marceau version from 1997, the costumes were fabulous, even though the movie didn't get great reviews. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118623/ This new version seems to have a stark embellished look. I'll probably see it anyway since it's been too long since I've seen a costume film. Any other period films coming out? Katy On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote: I'll still see it. The costumes, as seen in the trailer, are beautiful. So even if the movie is less than steller, I will enjoy that. Besides, I disagree often enough with critics that I don't let them make my decisions for me anymore. Teena From: Lavolta Press f...@lavoltapress.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Friday, November 16, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [h-cost] The new Anna Karenina After reading this review, I'm not going to bother watching the movie: http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Anna-Karenina-review-Off-the-rails-4041627.php Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns http://www.lavoltapress.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] sewing machine feet
Speaking of favorite sewing machine feet usage: I love to use my blind hemmer foot not for blind hems but to help guide piping into the perfect position for the stitching to come right up to the cord, works well for fine 19th century sized piping. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] boys 1820s clothing
I got a request for sources for boys ready made 1820s jackets, does anyone have any good sources? Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?
We viewed some of coaching weekend events at Newport a few years ago, at Marble House, it coincided with the Newport vintage Dance Week that year. http://www.vintagedancers.org/newport/index.html It was really fun to watch them go through their paces, it added a bit more period ambiance to our week. Katy On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote: As support to my statement that the whip is the driver of the coach. Here is a website about an event in Newport which sounds lovely: http://www.newportmansions.org/events/a-weekend-of-coaching A quote from the text on that website: All seating is outside, with the driver, known as a whip, sitting in the slightly elevated right front seat, and the whip’s wife or female relative taking up the “box seat” on the left. Teena From: penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:41 AM Subject: [h-cost] What is a Whip? I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving. What / Who is a Whip in this context? Men who are guests on a coach wear morning or afternoon dress according to the hour of the day on which the vehicle makes its start. The whip, if the host of the occasion, is usually arrayed in distinctive costume. A gray suit is the usual selection for spring and summer, brown is a frequent choice for the autumn.. In the country, and in summer, a gentleman whip wears a light colored and light-weight suit, with brown shoes and gloves and a straw or panama hat. For touring, or driving an automobile.No ceremonious costume for men has yet been evolved to approximate, in style and completeness, the formal dress an amateur whip wears. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ http://www.costumegallery.com/ 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents
These are similar, they have a metal backing--but are a bit thinker seeming than I remember getting, I like the type you're describing too: http://www.dreamtimecreations.com/product/8682/sew-on-rhinestones-in-settings-crystal-round-ss16-380-400-mm-foiled/?gclid=CJHHw-CzmbACFQjf4AodYl0ZWw On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM, Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.comwrote: Wow, those embellishments weren't even on my radar. They're lovely. Unfortunately, no. These look like costume pieces when you get up close. The sew-ons I'm talking about had a metal base with grooves formed into the back making an 'x' through which you sewed the rhinestone onto the fabric. This base wrapped around the glass 'stone.' They looked really, really good, very much like the pronged ones do - without the backing forcing itself through the fabric. I haven't seen them in years. I had a costume with hundreds sewn to it (it cost a fortune and weighed a ton) and am now planning to take them all off to reuse elsewhere. I bought them at Berger's Beads or Bohemian Beads in downtown Los Angeles probably 30 years ago - they had millions - and haven't seen them since. LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 11:53 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: Whilst I am playing the busybody, are these the sew-on rhinestones you seek? http://www.firemountaingems.com/shopping.asp?skw=Swarovski-Sew-On - Original Message - From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:24:19 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] rhinestone accents Are you looking for rhinestone yardage? I have seen that JoAnn Fabrics carries that in the recent past. However, I just looked on their website and I don't see much. Perhaps you can check at some of the large trim companies - Wright, Westrim, Plaid. I know I've seen it on those plastic oval trim bolts on the trims wall. Are you actually finding the sew-in rhinestones you don't want? The ones with the base attached to the stone and four little holes with which you can sew the whole thing onto your fabric? Where?!? I was told at least 10 years ago that those aren't being made anymore and to use the prong jewels. The prongs tear silk taffeta and I don't like the way they snag onto everything near them. Please share your source for the sew-ins. Please, please. I've got some I used on a costume Thanks, LynnD On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: I want to buy some rhinestone elements to sew onto a dress, but I'm not finding what I need. I don't want individual sew-on rhinestones. The closest I can come to what I want is vintage rhinestone jewelery - something that looks a little like a tiara only in necklace form. I've actually been looking at vintage jewelry for something I can take apart, but so far all I've found is too small and/or much too dark unless I start looking at the really expensive pieces. (multiple hundreds!) Modern formal dresses often have a fake buckle or something resembling a brooch sewn on the bodice front or back, etc. What do you call these pieces? Having a few more search terms to use might improve my google-fu. Denise Iowa __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costume http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Help - shredding silk :((
Would fray check work? How big are the motifs? Katy On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.comwrote: I've tried that but it bubbled - because the thickness of the threads under the embroidered flowers prevents it from sticking at that point. *Aylwen * On 18 May 2012 20:39, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Looks gorgeous on the outside but the mbroidery is shedding like mad on the underside. Could you back it with a lightweight fusible? Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 18, 2012 5:12 am Subject: [h-cost] Help - shredding silk :(( Any helpful hints appreciated - I have a commission to make a regency gown rom a woven embroidered silk dupion. Looks gorgeous on the outside but the mbroidery is shedding like mad on the underside. What would you do to it o save the day? It is supposed to be a wow gown and all I feel like doing s crying :( Aylwen Gardiner-Garden* Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Jane Austen Festival Australia* http://www.janeaustenfestival.com __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !
___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Off Topic: Removing ink from cotton blend
How about getting mold/mildew stains out of a white cotton/linen blend (my beautiful repro. Victorian blouse got left at the bottom of a laundry basket while damp.). Is there any hope? Katy On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Margaret Geiss-Mooney m...@textileconservator.com wrote: Good evening, H-Costume'lers - The process for blotting is well described below. BUT please use liquid 99% isopropyl or 70% isopropyl alcohol and NOT aerosol hairspray. You do NOT want to be breathing all of the ingredients of the hairspray nor leaving all those unneeded ingredients behind in your clothes. I have found both 99% and 70% isoprop in the first aid aisle of my local grocery store and local pharmacy store. You need lots of air circulation and fresh air while using the alcohol as well - ideally, working outside. If you find that neither of the isoprops are moving the ink in to the paper towels, try ethyl alcohol (ethanol) - EverClearT grain alcohol is available in most places at 151 proof (75% ethanol/25% water). In some states you can also get EverClearT at 190 proof (95% ethanol/5% water) and you should use that if it is available. I also suggest you wear nitrile gloves so you don't dry out your skin on your hands as you are switching out paper towels (plain, undecorated ones), no matter which alcohol you try. Please feel free to contact me off-line if you need further clarification or have additional questions. Regards, Meg . _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ___ Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney Textile/Costume Conservator Collections Management Consultant Professional Associate - AIC 707-763-8694 m...@textileconservator.com .. alcohol is essential.how Everex so is a blotted. We used to get instant out of our nursing assistant uniforms by having loads of papertowel handy. It is time and materials consuming.it took me 45 minutes and 1/2 can of gairspray once to get out a staint the size of my fist but it did come out completely. Put a wad of paper towels under the stain. Have another wad handy. Saturated the stain with gairspray. Blot. Keep turning or changing the town so you dont remain with the inky towels. Keep repeating the process repeating the sting with the gairspray and blotting it away. Dont forget to check the underpaid of towels to have always a clean surface from under as swell! We used to get every bit outof white uniforms, well enough for inspection which was very unforgiving. ... ...ink is water based and when trying to remove the ink it bleeds making the end spots bigger. May husband did this before and I washed the clothes several times and removed some of the ink but not all. This time the ink blots are massive and all over my clothes. ... ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Grrrrr ... !
I know I haven't been able to find starch in any store for a long time now--won't touch spray starch. And my mother can't understand why I stock up on things when I find them! I have to get around to ordering some Srgo starch to try before the summer starching season. My supermarket now doesn't carry dyes, just color remover. Katy On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 6:49 AM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Guddammut, time for a Cartman-like rant: Those *%$$! bxstards at the #@^$! supermarket have stopped stocking %(#! starch. Real starch, not that %$!@)( spray lubricant. You bxstards! -C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Audio slideshow of a costume workshop
Thanks for posting this! It is fun to see behind the scenes. Katy On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Linda Walton linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: A costume drama at Sands Films studios – audio slideshow | Film | guardian.co.uk http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/audioslideshow/2012/apr/11/sands-films-studios-audio-slideshow A costume drama at Sands Films studios – audio slideshow: 'This is where an actor meets their character for the first time,' hears David Levene as he visits the costume workshop in south London. Along with making period costumes for forthcoming films, the studio is preparing for a European exhibition of its work for productions including Little Dorrit (1988) and Bright Star (2009). It is currently creating costumes for the film adaptation of Les Misérables. Enjoy! Linda Walton (in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K.). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Desperation request from a friend….
Recommendations from a friend: I hope that she's not using Valentine Armouries (http://www.varmouries.com/). It would be a pity to lose them. I recommend them. If it comes down to a purchase, there's also polyurethane LARP armor, carried by many suppliers (for example, http://www.by-the-sword.com/acatalog/LRP_Armour.htmld). I hope that this proves helpful. Katy On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Ruth Anne Baumgartner ruthan...@mindspring.com wrote: Hello the list. A friend is directing Man of La Mancha in his high school, and the place where he was expecting to rent armor is going out of business and has no armor. We're in Connecticut. Can anyone recommend a rental place, or else refer me to directions for building papier mache armor and helm, or offer any other suggestions? He says he might even be able to buy, but this would not be actual armor or replica armor, just stage stuff. This is not my period! Thanks-- Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] starch recipe
Thanks! Looks like the stuff. But I'd still like to know if anyone on the list simply uses cormstarch, it works nicely but I am wondering on what concentration is good, so if anyone has a favorite recipe for diffeeent levels of stiffness I'd love to hear it. Katy On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Betsy Marshall be...@softwareinnovation.com wrote: Maybe this could substitute? http://www9.mailordercentral.com/cumberlandgeneral/prodinfo.asp?number=01109 1 just a stumble across, no personal experience buying/using starch.. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Katy Bishop Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 9:34 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] starch recipe Hi Guys, Since I can no longer find liquid starch in the store or faultless powdered starch from Bon Ami, I am ready to make my own from cornstarch. Does anyone has a favorite recipe for starch, I will be using it for Victorian petticoats and garments mostly. Unless anyone knows where one can still buy powdered starch. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] starch recipe
Perfect, thanks! On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote: Sta Flo is also available online. As I was searching for it, I found this recipe. http://www.pinkyhasabrain.com/homemade-cleaning-recipes/homemade-liquid-starch-recipe/ I especially like that it adds fragrance. Sg On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 7:23 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: I was wondering if someone carried it mail order--that looks like the stuff! Argo powdered starch. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Starch recipe
Thanks. When I am starching my large puffed 1890s leg-o-mutton sleeves, a real pain to iron, I blow up a balloon in the sleeve when it is wet and dry it stretched as flat as possible over the balloon to reduce the amount of ironing needed--it works great. Though my daughter is sad when I have to pop the balloon to get it out. Katy On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Martha Kelly marthake...@nyc.rr.com wrote: From the Argo web site: Q: Can I make laundry starch from Argo and Kingsford's corn starch? A: Yes you can starch clothing with regular corn starch. In a large bowl or pot, stir 1/2 cup of corn starch into 1 cup of cold water. Stir in boiling water (2 quarts for a heavy solution; 4 quarts for medium and 6 quarts for a light solution). Dip the clothing into the starch solution and let dry. To iron, sprinkle the garments lightly with warm water, roll up and place in a plastic bag until evenly moistened, then iron as usual. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Starch recipe
When starching ironing is a necessity u less the item can be dried flat or in shape--the balloons allow the sleeve and starch to be dried in shape. Minimizes that tedious ironing. SOme of my sleeves are as big as watermelons. I have some down filled sleeve puffs for my 1830s, the softest most wonderful things. Copied from some at the MFA in Boston. Back to the 1890s, I also have an original little sleeve ironing board from the 1890s, basically a little curved croissant shaped wooden board with a screw clamp to attach it to a table, it can fit into the gathered sleeve of a blouse. Katy On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 4:46 PM, R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu wrote: I have a pair of early 19th C. down pads for the sleeves of the 1820's and re-discovered in the Gay 90s to provide petticoats for the second generation of balloon sleeves... have also seen tulle shoulder cuffs to do the same service...Doing the stuffing with baloons or whatever and using?spray starch creates the form that could benefit the underpinnings.? -Original Message- From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com Sent 2/14/2012 1:05:13 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Starch recipeThanks. When I am starching my large puffed 1890s leg-o-mutton sleeves, a real pain to iron, I blow up a balloon in the sleeve when it is wet and dry it stretched as flat as possible over the balloon to reduce the amount of ironing needed--it works great. Though my daughter is sad when I have to pop the balloon to get it out. Katy On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Martha Kelly marthake...@nyc.rr.com wro te: From the Argo web site: Q: Can I make laundry starch from Argo and Kingsford's corn starch? A: ?Yes you can starch clothing with regular corn starch. In a large bo wl or pot, stir 1/2 cup of corn starch into 1 cup of cold water. Stir in boiling water (2 quarts for a heavy solution; 4 quarts for medium and 6 quarts fo r a light solution). Dip the clothing into the starch solution and let dry. To iron, sprinkle the garments lightly with warm water, roll up and place in a plastic bag until evenly moistened, then iron as usual. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? www.VintageVictorian.com ? ?? Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. ? ? ? Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] starch recipe
Hi Guys, Since I can no longer find liquid starch in the store or faultless powdered starch from Bon Ami, I am ready to make my own from cornstarch. Does anyone has a favorite recipe for starch, I will be using it for Victorian petticoats and garments mostly. Unless anyone knows where one can still buy powdered starch. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions
If you want a very quick to put together dress the polonaise by Past Patterns is very easy, http://www.pastpatterns.com/904.html Last time I made it was afetr coming home Saturday night from Arisia and I needed soemthing to wear for a panel the next morning--whipped up in a jiffy. I've also altered the pattern and cut it at the waist into a basque waist for a bodice, and made the overskirt as a separate over skirt. Katy On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:00 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Okay, folks, I may be getting a Steampunk urge, since a big event is right up the road in May. I long ago wanted to do an 1870s bustle style and this seems like a good opportunity. My question is, what pattern(s) do you all recommend for an 1870s era bustle day outfit? I'm thinking bodice with high neck and 3/4 sleeves and underskirt with draped overskirt. I do have the skill to make some minor changes to a pattern-could certainly modify the sleeve, for instance--but want something that I wouldn't need to do a lot to, as time is of the essence. Also not stuck on 100% authentic to the period--that is one of the appeals of Steampunk! I was hoping the Big Two had something that I could just pick up at the fabric store and run with, but I didn't see anything suitable there. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions
I made an early 1870 outfit for a client out of Truly Victorian patterns, they worked pretty well, I had to alter the length greatly but she was almost 6 ft tallI did find the instructions to be lacking in detail though. (the outfit she wanted was 1873 or 74): you can see it on my website here: http://www.vintagevictorian.com/1874.html The patterns she chose: 101 Petticoat with Wire Bustle 305 Bustled Apron Overskirt 400 1871 Day Bodice 202 1869 Grand Parlor Skirt On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 3:45 PM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: If you want a very quick to put together dress the polonaise by Past atterns is very easy, Thanks, but I'm looking for more an early 1870s silhouette. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 3:15 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions If you want a very quick to put together dress the polonaise by Past atterns is very easy, http://www.pastpatterns.com/904.html Last time I made it was afetr coming home Saturday night from Arisia nd I needed soemthing to wear for a panel the next morning--whipped p in a jiffy. I've also altered the pattern and cut it at the waist nto a basque waist for a bodice, and made the overskirt as a separate ver skirt. Katy On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:00 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Okay, folks, I may be getting a Steampunk urge, since a big event is right up he road in May. I long ago wanted to do an 1870s bustle style and this seems ike a good opportunity. My question is, what pattern(s) do you all recommend or an 1870s era bustle day outfit? I'm thinking bodice with high neck and 3/4 leeves and underskirt with draped overskirt. I do have the skill to make some inor changes to a pattern-could certainly modify the sleeve, for instance--but ant something that I wouldn't need to do a lot to, as time is of the essence. lso not stuck on 100% authentic to the period--that is one of the appeals of teampunk! I was hoping the Big Two had something that I could just pick up at the fabric tore and run with, but I didn't see anything suitable there. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- aty Bishop, Vintage Victorian atybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions
I also like the Wisconsin patterns--I used the 1870s one, it was nice but very short waisted, even for 1870s--just do a muslin first. Katy On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, what she said. SHS Wisconsin does a great job with their research which I know is an important factor to you despite the never-was that is Steampunk. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Maggie Halberg hhalb94...@aol.com wrote: I really like the pattern put out by the State Historical Society of Wisconsin. You get the bodice, skirt and overskirt in the same pattern. It makes up really easily and comes with both a faster, modern method and a period method in the instructions. Maggie Halberg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] nankeen substitute
Coutil is too stiff for this corset. It's not like a mid 19th Century corset where you want a sturdy stiff cloth to squeeze the body into an unnetural shape with lots of boning. This is a much more natural shape giving the bust support more than anything. A high thread count muslin, like a sheeting is a good substitute for Nankeen. Coutil will not give you a corset like the original the pattern was taken from. I get a 90 cotton sheeting at New England Quilt Supply, Springmaid I think, it is very high thread count and has good body. Katy On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com wrote: Cotton Coutil dyes readily and you can also just use it as the interlining if you want something else on the outside (like printed yellow cloth). Sg On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 10:36 AM, Emily Gilbert emchantm...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your input, everyone! It sounds like I'd be best off using coutil or something similar, Saundra's recommendation notwithstanding. Emily On 2/6/2012 7:00 PM, Joan Jurancich wrote: According to Montgomery, Textiles in America, Nankeen is a cotton cloth of plain weave originally sold at Nankin in China and made from a yellow variety of cotton... At least by the mid-eighteenth century, in the Manchester area it was made of ordinary cotton dyed yellow. Swatch number 62 in Holker's manuscript is nankeen suitable for men's waistcoats and trousers which he says wears very well. (see page 308 for more details) You might try to find coutil, which is made specifically made for corsets. It's fairly lightweight, but very strong. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costume http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __**_ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/**listinfo/h-costume http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- -Sg- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] beginner sewing machine
I have been asked by a friend who has a daughter who wants to learn to sew to make costumes to come to our vintage dances. She asked what would be a good starter machine. Does any one here have recommendations? Thanks. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] nankeen substitute
I asked Saundra the same question and she recommended a cotton sheeting. It has to be lightweight. Katy On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Emily Gilbert emchantm...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I'm planning to make the Past Patterns 1793-1820 Transition Stay. It says that the stay the pattern was taken from was made in nankeen, and that nankeen is unlike any fabric available in today's market, but doesn't offer any suggestions as to what to use instead. Does anyone know what kind of fabric would give me the closest approximation? Thanks! Emily ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Civil War rashion
It was nice to meet you too. It would have been nice to sit down and chat. I had hoped to get back to doing some panels again this year (I had a baby 2 1/2 years ago and just couldn't take part in much recently) but by the time I realized I was not getting any emails about joining panels it was too late to get added. Next year, hopefully. Do you have any of the pictures on-line? If you are stuck on any of them I'd be happy to give my opinion. I have not have the chance to do much costuming recently, so had nothing fun or new to wear to Arisia. Life's just too stressful at the moment and I don't have a sewing space right now--my 2 year old took the remaining available space. I did throw together an outfit to wear to the Girl Genius Ball. My husband wants to go to Lunacon, one of his favorite authors is the guest, but I don't think we can as he is having surgery a week later and $ is just too tight. We might stop in at Boskone, but not sure yet. The next thing we are going to is taking my boys to PAX East in April, and then our huge Titanic Vintage Dance Weekend in April which, due to my co-organizers new baby, I am now the primary organizer! Between that and Newport in August I have not a minute to spare for anything. But they'll be fun events I can enjoy once they are here... Katy On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 10:16 AM, lis...@juno.com wrote: Dear Katy-- It was lovely meeting you at Arisia, thank you somuch for introducing yourself. I would love to have time some time to sit and talk about historical fashion. I am very involved with collecting and scanningm y Victorian photos, and love images of all natures of Victorian life. I have decided to attend Lunacon, in Rye, NY in March. Perhaps I will se eyou there. Yours in cosutmign, Lisa Ashton On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 16:08:25 -0400 Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com writes: It looks really nice, where can one order the book, or does one just email the bookstore? Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] sorry about the email
My email contact list has been compromised. Sorry about the recent spam attachment, don't open it, what ever it is. Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] On the Home Front: Civil War Fashions and Domestic Life
It looks really nice, where can one order the book, or does one just email the bookstore? Katy On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Vicki Betts vbe...@gower.net wrote: http://www.kent.edu/museum/exhibits/exhibitdetail.cfm?customel_datapageid_22 03427=2514745 http://kentstateuniversitymuseum.wordpress.com/ Today I received in the mail the exhibit catalog for Kent State University Museum's exhibit On the Home Front: Civil War Fashions and Domestic Life. The exhibit runs September 30, 2011-August 26, 2012. The 35 page paperback catalog costs $7.95 each before tax and postage. It focuses on the daily life and experiences of the American civilian population during the Civil War and in the years immediately following. The pieces on exhibit, including women's and children's costumes, supplemented with related photographs, decorative arts and women's magazines, are organized thematically...concentrates on the material circumstances of the North, particularly around Ohio. Includes: Blue and black striped dress, late 1860s, sheer white cotton with blue and black striped bodice, skirt, apron, and bow Jacket of Civil War uniform, ca. 1863, US colonel in coast artillery Striped day dress, ca. 1862, wool/linen blend skirt and bodice trimmed with black braid Child's red dress, 1860s, wool, black braid along cuffs and hem Woman's jacket, 1860s, black plus with braid trim and quilted cotton lining Union military coat, Brooks Brothers, 1861-1865 Blue silk dress, ca. 1865, silk taffeta with glass beaded fringe, shown with wool paisley shawl Evening dress with burnous, English, ivory silk skirt and bodice and bodice with salmon-colored wheat sheaves (not show well due to featured burnous), ivory wool wrap with quilted satin, including closeup of inside of hood Black lace wrap, early 1860s; tan taffeta skirt; sheer pinstriped cotton blouse (not show well because the the featured silk wrap) Brown velvet cape, ca. 1860, velvet cape with embroidery and fringe; worn over brown plaid day dress, silk taffeta trimmed with fringe (skirt only shown due to featured cape) Evening dress with warp printed flowers, ca. 1860, ivory silk; detail of laced up back and ruched ribbon trim around neckline Purple plaid dress, late 1860s, silk taffeta bodice, skirt, and overdress with brocaded floral accents; detail of back CDV of two children; cabinet card of federal officer Hair bracelet with gold locket containing picture of Lourens W. Wolcott Illustration of hair ornaments from Godey's Hair jewelry ca. 1870--brooch and pendant made from Emma Pierce's hair for Fanny V. Sackett Silk quilt attributed to Elizabeth Hobbs Keckley, with raised eagle and flower motifs, fabrics may be from Mary Todd Lincoln's dresses--complete photo and detail of center Cage crinoline ca. 1865--elliptical Corset ca. 1865, cotton (19 inch waist); illustrations from La Mode Illustree Drawers, 1865-1866; illustrations from La Mode Illustree Corset cover and petticoat, 1868 Two more views of blue and black striped dress mentioned first (it's also on the cover) Ca. 1860 dress, white cotton with plum and red zigzag and floral patterns White cotton seersucker blouse, 1860s, with purple windowpane check dress, silk taffeta bodice and skirt, cut similar to a Swiss belt with shoulder straps, shown from thigh up Sheer white cotton ball gown with blue satin sash, early 1860s Indigo dress, mid 1860s, indigo cotton with resist printed leaf motif Child's dress, 1860s, white cotton dress with small floral print accented with pink cotton edged with white braid CDV of two young sisters CDV of couple (opposite section on weddings--she's not wearing a white dress but is wearing a white floral headpiece) Brown wedding dress, Ca. 1860, wool with floral print. (um--looks like the bride was probably on the road to Boston) Wedding dress, 1868, cotton gauze bodice and skirt, silk satin belt, includes close up of front from knees up, plus full length of back Ivory wedding dress and slippers, 1861, dress shown from back, hip up Jacket of Civil War uniform--detail--black broadcloth and brass eagle button This catalog is well worth the money. If anyone knows of a similar exhibit for the southern states, would you please post the information? Vicki Betts Tyler, TX ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Uniquely you replacement cover
Don't know this company but Atlanta Thread Supply, a reputable company (good for notions) has them for $33.95 http://store.atlantathread.com/unyoudrfo1.html Katy On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: Ladies gents, I'm in the market for a new cover for a recent adopted Uniquely You dressmakers dummy. A friend pulled her out of a dumpster. She's been washed in the process the cover shredded must be replaced. I'd shop locally but there's no one near who seems to carry covers only. I'm forced to check online. Does anyone have info, good or bad about this vendor? http://www.sewvacdirect.com/uniquelyyou-cvr5.html The price is pretty reasonable. I've never heard of them before. In the meantime, I see about finding a replacement stand for her. Thanks all! --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Storing a wedding gown.
I like University producst for boxes and tissue. I am trying to figure out the best way to approach my niece about repackaging her gown--last time I was at my sister's I spied a wedding preservation box with big words DO NOT OPEN on it, with her gown in it. I cringe that she fell for the whole heirloom your wedding gown scam. I don't know if she'll be offended at my suggestion of buying her an acid free box etc... to store the gown properly. Katy On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:59 PM, albert...@aol.com wrote: Greetings Earthings, A friend wants to pack up her wedding gown for safe keeping but didn' like the price of having someone do it for her. The gown is not silk or anything. It's all synthetic I think. (It's really beautiful even if it is synthetic) I told her she just needs to stuff it and wrap it in acid free tissue paper and put it in a box that is not plastic. I remember we used to store things in the costume shop at school, and also a friend of mine that collected vintage, in waxed cardboard boxes. Was my advice sound, d'ya think? Also, I don't know a source for acid free tissue or boxes anymore but I confess, I haven't done a search online or anything yet. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Gray Hunter ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh
About 20 years ago a friend who is a historical artist, borrowed several of my period gowns and had his gorgeous wife, my friend, pose in them in bodice ripper poses. His goal was to start doing historically accurate bodice ripper covers. I don't know if anything came of it. I should ask his wife. Katy On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 2:27 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: I'm curious--does anyone know the answer to this question? Do the artists who draw the covers of romance novels just come up with a costume out of their head, or do they pose the models in a costume from a costume warehouse or something? Some novels' covers look almost like photos; the costumes are horrible, but very detailed. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Patricia Dunham Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 6:13 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh Just ran across, by accident, 2 new CECELIA HOLLAND's -- hooray. THEN I looked them up online and the covers -- argh! Obviously art-directed at the bodice ripper set! The King's Witch is a Richard II period piece with a not-very-good Ren-faire wench in green, @ http://www.amazon.com/Kings-Witch-Cecelia-Holland/dp/0425241300/ref=ntt_at_e p_dpt_2. And The Secret Eleanor [of Acquitaine], which cover is better but not anywhere near right, @ http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Eleanor-Cecelia-Holland/dp/0425234509. Recent re-issue of Great Maria is even afflicted with this... although the cover looks like a renaissance angel, THAT is not appropriate for Maria! http://www.amazon.com/Great-Maria-Cecelia-Holland/dp/B005CDUUD2/ref=ntt_at_e p_dpt_3 The original Great Maria cover, http://www.amazon.com/Great-Maria-Cecelia-Holland/dp/0394485092/ref=ntt_at_e p_dpt_5 I now know isn't period for the story either, but at least looks period to SOME time! Funny how the original covers from the central-male-character, 1960-70-80 2000s titles are all very reasonable. chimene (a huge CH fan, for decades!!!) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh
The usual poses of ladies as seen on the covers of bodice ripper novels. Katy On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Becky Rautine zearti...@hotmail.com wrote: What is bodice ripper poses? Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:53:04 -0400 From: katybisho...@gmail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] costume on book covers, argh About 20 years ago a friend who is a historical artist, borrowed several of my period gowns and had his gorgeous wife, my friend, pose in them in bodice ripper poses. His goal was to start doing historically accurate bodice ripper covers. I don't know if anything came of it. I should ask his wife. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress)
Having been to many of her costume history workshops, and come to know her and her research methods first hand; she is brilliant and a very good researcher (sadly she has given up costume research for other pursuits). I just want to pick her brain for as much information as I can get out of it every time I've seen her at a presentation. It's a shame she was not able to publish all of her research--I believe there were several volumes planned. The sacque is mentioned often in Godey's and Petersen's, in several forms (shirt -like, coat/bodice-like, child's garment). It is not quite a shirt, so it seems it is reasonable to place it in a different category. It still seems to be a reasonable term for the garments. Check out the historical notes of the Past Patterns Sacque and Petticoat Pattern for the notes: http://www.pastpatterns.com/808.html Of course anyone can miss small details when doing a huge job that, in its nature, is preliminary; but her scholarship is reliable. Katy On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:42 AM, WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com wrote: I looked her up (her name is on the transcript). She appears to be very knowledgeable, but of course that's no guarantee of accuracy. Also, she was faced literally with dozens of bulging plastic garbage bags and may have missed clues dues to the sheer enormity of her task. We (two elderly ladies and me) have found things she missed, like factory marks and laundry stencils, that in my untrained opinion render her approximate date of those garments invalid. But, again... considering the conditions under which she was working... it's not surprising that she may have missed the mark occasionally. Am I allowed to use her name here? Here's a book she wrote (on Amazon): www.amazon.com/Womens-Shoes-America-1795-1930-Rexford/dp/0873386566 ...and here is a brief professional synopsis: www.partnersforabetterworld.org/directors.html (scroll to bottom) --- On Thu, 9/15/11, Sheridan Alder sheridanal...@yahoo.ca wrote: Excuse me if someone else has already thrown out this suggestion, but my impression is simple - the 1995 cataloguer just plain wasn't knowledgeable about historical clothing! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Need information on sacque garments (NOT the dress)
Here's a link to the Past Patterns Sacque and petticoat: http://www.pastpatterns.com/808.html The Pattern has some good historical notes, I can't find my copy but you could email Saundra for a copy. Katy On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:29 AM, WorkroomButtons.com westvillagedrap...@yahoo.com wrote: Back at the Reed Homestead... we are moving on to the next pile -- stacks and stacks of shirt-like garments with no closures (other than a few with ties at the neck). We hired a woman in 1995 to start pulling clothing literally out of garbage bags and start cataloging. (Sadly, we still have pieces from 1809 still in garbage bags -- yes, the black plastic kind.) She called these shirt-like garments sacques and this is want she wrote about them... ...I would like someone after me to write the word sacque which is what we're going to use for the generic term. A sacque is a garment which hangs from the shoulder down without interruption, without darts, without a waist seam, so a man's sacque coat is one that was not cut in at the waist. And that seems to be a generic form for this style if garment, no matter how it's being used, but as I said before and you got on the VCR I think, these can be used as a working garment with a skirt, held in place with an apron. They can be used as a short nightgown for hot weather and when somebody is ill and is using a bedpan. They can be used over your dress when you're doing your hair and that's probably about it. Oh, yes, and the other thing is for maternity, when it's an expandable top for when you're pregnant and obviously can be used for nursing as well. And nobody has as many as you have. We have attempted to locate information about this type of garment, but clearly we're looking in the wrong places because we're coming up empty. We can find saques certainly but they don't look like ours. Any ideas? Dede O'Hair ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Miss Universe 2011 national costumes
, Peru, Portugal, Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam - interesting and impressive modern take on folkwear. Mauritius - lace and feathers Mexico - rummage sale at the costume shop. Actually it is one of the better attempts at symbols to represent the country. Montenegro - looks like haute couture fashion. Netherlands - What were they thinking or looking at when they can up with this? At least they didn't go the Dutch route as that would have excluded other regions. Nicaragua - looks like someone just threw what ever was on hand together. You know that whoever designed it did not consider that Miss Dorn did not have the neck muscles for the headdress. Paraguay - a Vegas showgirl costume gone wrong, way wrong. I did not know that Paraguay had peacocks. Philippines - Looks like one can not make up their mind. Looks like they had two different costumes and they lost the lower have for the white lacey top and the upper piece to the gold skirt. Poland - has a folk feel to it but still looks like prom or bridal. Romania - Vampire Queen? Russia - modern bride? interesting modern take on folkwear. Serbia - really? Slovak Republic - Not a good take of folkwear. Slovenia - Emmy dress. South Africa - should have left off the black and pink stuff. Spain - haute couture or stylized flamenco dress. The oriental fan really says Spain (sarcasm) Sri Lanka - traditional but looks like something that would be worn as evening wear. Tanzania - the new Zena warrior princess? Turkey - The mirrors are the only thing I can think of that might say Turkey. USA - Not bad but the hat is way to big. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help identifying picture
Cool feature, I was going to guess something a little later than Ingres or around the time of Tissot..The chemise she's wearing looked very mid-19th century. Katy On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Elena House exst...@gmail.com wrote: Ooo, turns out Google has a nifty new way to search to do an image search: you can drag an image into the image search bar, and it'll find similar images, often the same image but at a different resolution. Using that, I learned that the painting in question is: Ragazza in costume veneziano, 1874 by Louis Joseph Raphaël Collin big version: http://www.lineadombra.it/sanmarino/images/headers/header_informazioni.jpg -E House http://images.cheezburger.com/imagestore/2010/9/9/330d9013-0b7f-468b-9c3a-b22044bb4e02.jpg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] royal wedding in monaco-maids of honour
The Maids of Honour at Prince Albert of Monaco's recent wedding are absolutely adorable. The official wedding website have a nice page on the dresses and the research that went into making them, and the materials and descriptions of each part of the ensemble! http://www.palais.mc/monaco/palais-princier/english/royal-wedding/news/maids-of-honour.2295.html -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] least favorite hat
I thought the hat should have had a portrait of the happy couple in the frame below the bow. Katy On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:50 AM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: I swear, it looked like nothing other than one of those plastic, molded bits from the 1970's, that were painted gold and were used as wall decoration. Specifically, an oval picture frame with molded bow. I think my great aunt had one, or something very close, on her wall. It was hideous there, too. On a related note, people were saying her raccoon eye makeup looked awful, too. I saw a bit on TV, filmed before the wedding, in which Diane Sawyer was interviewing the hat designer, and who should drop by, but Princess Beatrice. Without makeup, just casually dressed. She was looked lovely. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Danielle Nunn-Weinberg Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 11:58 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] least favorite hat Yes, I have to concur, I forgot to mention that one. LOL! I can't decide if it was an alien trying to eat her head, or coming out of her head. Either that, or she decided she wanted to pay tribute to/compete with the trees in the Abbey snicker The colour didn't do her any favours either, the grandmothers at my husband's brother's wedding wore colours like that, only with more sequins and beads...(which probably couldn't have made it any worse). Cheers, Danielle At 06:07 PM 4/29/2011, you wrote: Well then. My least favorite hat, of the ones I was able to see well, was HRH Beatrice's-- I think! The one wearing pink, with the odd vertical sculpture on it. Yeesh. You'd think she'd have noticed it wasn't flattering. Or perhaps they didn't give her a 360 mirror. Feathers, I can live with. But that thing was just plain odd. Her blue sister's hat was simply unfortunate; but the pink one was an oddity. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] kate's wedding dress lace
Here's a link to a page discussing the Royal School of Needlework's work on the lace of the wedding dress. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13249018 -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pouting about R. Wedding coverage
BBC America is repeating the coverage now, people are still wandering into the church.. I thought the dress was so retro, could have been worn by Queen Elizabeth herself. A style that has come and gone so many times--I made almost identical dresses for a couple of my brides about 15 or so years ago. Maybe this will help break the fad for strapless gowns which are too ubiquitous these days. I've been enjoying the increased coverage of royal wedding gowns of the past, it's nice to see some close up pictures of those. Katy On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:09 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: CNN had live coverage since midnight EST. I am in a hotel and we brought our VCR to tape it. My husband woke up at 4 am panicked because he set the VCR up incorrectly. Thank goodness he woke up to fix the problem. I believe CNN is repeating it tonight. As for Kate's dress...I have seen several of this style wedding dresses from the 1940s. I own one without the slit neckline. I have one or two original 1940s wedding photos with this style dress. Fashion repeating itself AGAIN. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] pouting about R. Wedding coverage
It's one of the things that's kept me from starting to make bridal gowns again--modern ones at least-- I can handle a couple of strapless ones ok, but not all strapless all the time. I much prefer historical recreations and restoring mother's and grandmother's gowns. I really want to see some close-ups of the wedding dresses lace. Katy On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com wrote: Katy, I quite agree. Strapless is not very flattering for many people. That neckline was perfect: a deep enough plunge for modern, and the gorgeous lace top stand for classic. Now, if we could only get rid of the ubiquitous black-for-dressy trend of the last 30 years. Yecch. I'm SO tired of black ;) == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Apr 29, 2011, at 8:20 AM, Katy Bishop wrote: Maybe this will help break the fad for strapless gowns which are too ubiquitous these days. I've been enjoying the increased coverage of royal wedding gowns of the past, it's nice to see some close up pictures of those. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] nepoleonic costume exhibit
I came across mention of this exhibit of Napoleonic era costumes: ‘NAPOLEON AND THE EMPIRE OF FASHION’ An exhibition with over fifty mannequins meticulously dressed in genuine costume, accessories and jewelry complemented by contemporary prints and objects from the period 1795-1815. The exhibition website has a page for everyone to vote on where the exhibit goes next! Visit the site and vote for a city near you. It's looks beautiful in the photographs. http://napoleon-fashion.com/wordpress/ I hope New York wins.. Katy -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] question about fabric for gown
I love the 1890s. Depending on what time of year you want to wear the dress or the look you are going for you can make it out of light or heavy cloth. I have several dresses pictured on my website, ranging from lightweight silk chiffon with china silk, to taffeta or thai silk, to satins, to silk blend brocades and bengalines. http://www.vintagevictorian.com/Dress_1890.html Also keep in mind that if you are doing a large puffed sleeve (probably not a problem for 1892) it will need support to stay puffed and the heavier the cloth the harder it will be to keep it puffed. Hems can be stiffened with haircloth or canvas if the fabric is heavier or for lighter fashion-fabric organza can give just a bit of extra body. Katy On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Rebecca lotsofteap...@charter.net wrote: I am working on an 1892 ball gown using Truly Victorian patterns. I was hoping for some fabric suggestions when I received the patterns, but none were there. This is a brand-new era for me. Can anyone give me a rough idea of types and weights of fabric that would be appropriate? I imagine silk would be correct, but what kind of silk? lightweight dupioni or heavier satin, or something else entirely? And what would be good modern, cost-effective substitutes? Thanks all very much! Rebecca Schmitt aka Agnyss Cabot, Guilde of St. Lawrence, Bristol Renn Faire ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Steampunk Ball, January 29 Cambridge, Ma
I thought a few people here might be interested in the event and a chence to try out Steampunk in Boston. Come to The Technocrat's Ball! Where: Masonic Hall 1950 Massachusetts Avenue (Porter Square) Cambridge, MA When: Saturday January 29, 2011 from 7:00 PM to 10:30 PM EST (Workshop 3-5 PM) Questions? * Phone: (617) 819-4283 * Email: qu...@vintagedancers.org * http://www.vintagedancers.org/2011technocrats.html Journey to a world that might have been if Victorian visions of the future and steam powered technology had come true. Join us at the Technocrat's Ball- A Steampunk Soiree! Enter the realm of Jules Verne and H.G. Wells as the Commonwealth Vintage Dancers present the Technocrat's Ball. Enjoy an evening of authentic late 19th century dancing with the imaginative flair of Steampunk style. The program will feature set dances taught during the evening, as well as energetic gallops, romantic waltzes, and sprightly polkas. Live music will be provided by the very talented Ad Hoc Quadrille and Waltz Band. Admission is just $25, or $15 for students when purchased by January 28 ($5 more at the door), and includes a dance workshop from 3:00-5:00PM on Saturday afternoon. Visit our website for more details, including parking and public transit information. http://www.vintagedancers.org/2011technocrats.html To register, click on the link below. https://events.r20.constantcontact.com/register/eventReg?oeidk=a07e36elna1b732b6a2oseq= Steampunk inspired costume or Victorian/Edwardian attire is requested (although modern evening attire is also acceptable). Steampunk style is all about imagination and creativity, so this is your chance to go through your closet and pull together something fun without worrying about historical accuracy. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] resources on Victorian tailoring techniques
You could go to books.google.com and look for tailoring and the date range you are interested in. I've had good luck there finding resources I needed. Katy On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Elizabeth Walpole elizabeth.r.walp...@gmail.com wrote: I’m in the beginning stages of a steampunk outfit for my boyfriend. I’ve bought McCall’s 4745 http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m4745-products-7030.php as a starting point. I’m looking for some information on a slightly more historically accurate way of constructing it than the standard modern costume method with fusible interfacing etc. Does anybody know of a resource (preferably online but I can try to obtain books through the library) on historical tailoring techniques or modern high end tailoring (e.g. accurate interfacing techniques etc.). Although the outfit doesn’t have to be historically accurate I don’t want to spend time on a cheap nasty substitute when I could spend the same time on a good outfit that will look good last for a long time. thanks Elizabeth -- -- Elizabeth Walpole http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] resources on Victorian tailoring techniques
You might also look at R L Shep's books, they might have a reprint that could be helpful to you. http://www.rlshep.com/ Katy On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Elizabeth Walpole elizabeth.r.walp...@gmail.com wrote: I’m in the beginning stages of a steampunk outfit for my boyfriend. I’ve bought McCall’s 4745 http://mccallpattern.mccall.com/m4745-products-7030.php as a starting point. I’m looking for some information on a slightly more historically accurate way of constructing it than the standard modern costume method with fusible interfacing etc. Does anybody know of a resource (preferably online but I can try to obtain books through the library) on historical tailoring techniques or modern high end tailoring (e.g. accurate interfacing techniques etc.). Although the outfit doesn’t have to be historically accurate I don’t want to spend time on a cheap nasty substitute when I could spend the same time on a good outfit that will look good last for a long time. thanks Elizabeth -- -- Elizabeth Walpole http://magpiecostumer.wordpress.com/ http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eek, quick opinion pls...
Cin, Where do you buy your hair cloth? I used to get it from greenberg and Hammer, I'm so sad they are gone. Katy On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: Rather than recommend patterns, let me encourage you to brush up your tailoring skills with Easy, Easier, Easiest Tailoring. It's a very small, inexpensive volume aimed at the home/craft seamstress. There are no historical techniques discussed particularly (as least not as far back as Edwardian). It will however, make the difference in how your jackets coats hang. The info in this book is applicable in both mens women's tailored costumes. It's applicable in theater, re-enactment everyday suiting. Most seamstresses just leave out the interfacing in tailored garments and the results can look tragic. You'll also need to order hair canvas, the secret ingredient for any tailored coat. Few shops carry it. I ordered just a bolt of it. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 14:56, Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org wrote: Don't know if I actually have time to still get this by Xmas, BUT! Himself re-iterated interest in a Steampunk/Victorian outfit again last night, so... Anybody know anything about any of these particular patterns or vendors... Laughing Moon #109, men's frock coats vest Folkwear #222, set of vests Men's Garments 1830-1900: A Guide to Pattern Cutting and Tailoring, by RI Davis (book) Old West Men's Clothing Patterns, by Wingeo, Pattern #W324 (frock coat), #W325 (Dress Coat) We have good basic sewing skills, some theatrical costuming experience, but no tailoring... Greatly appreciated, any responses today, Thursday... Chimene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] eek, quick opinion pls...
The Folkwear vest is a good basic vest pattern, easy to use with good instructions. Past Patterns also has some 19th c. vests and a nice man's shirt pattern which I've used. They also have trouser patterns. Katy On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Patricia Dunham chim...@ravensgard.org wrote: Don't know if I actually have time to still get this by Xmas, BUT! Himself re-iterated interest in a Steampunk/Victorian outfit again last night, so... Anybody know anything about any of these particular patterns or vendors... Laughing Moon #109, men's frock coats vest Folkwear #222, set of vests Men's Garments 1830-1900: A Guide to Pattern Cutting and Tailoring, by RI Davis (book) Old West Men's Clothing Patterns, by Wingeo, Pattern #W324 (frock coat), #W325 (Dress Coat) We have good basic sewing skills, some theatrical costuming experience, but no tailoring... Greatly appreciated, any responses today, Thursday... Chimene ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Travelling to the US in March 2011
I am expecting it to be July 16 Katy On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Katy Do you know when the NAHANT VICTORIAN DAY BALL An 1860’s SUMMER BALL to Benefit the Nahant Historical Society will be on in 2011? John and I are discussing our trip and trying to see if it fits in. According to the 2010 date it might be possible. Bye for now, Aylwen On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Aylwen, We have 2 dance events in March up here in the Boston, MA area, Returning Heroes Ball (American Civil War) March 5 Holliston Town Hall, Holliston, Massachusetts Sponsored by: The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers Mostly Victorian Tea Dance March 20 Cambridge, Massachusetts Sponsored by: Eclectic Enterprises and The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers We'd love to meet you some day! Katy On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: I am travelling to the US in March to attend Costume Accessories: Head to Toe at Colonel Williamsburg. Does anyone know if there are any other historical costuming or dance events on in March that I can add to my itinerary? Bye for now, Aylwen Garden --- Costume Director, Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia President, Monaro Folk Society ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Travelling to the US in March 2011
We'd love to meet you too! Katy On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:44 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks! We're trying to get to meet you - will see how the plans fall into place. Bye for now, Aylwen On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: I am expecting it to be July 16 Katy On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:08 AM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Katy Do you know when the NAHANT VICTORIAN DAY BALL An 1860’s SUMMER BALL to Benefit the Nahant Historical Society will be on in 2011? John and I are discussing our trip and trying to see if it fits in. According to the 2010 date it might be possible. Bye for now, Aylwen On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 4:48 AM, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Aylwen, We have 2 dance events in March up here in the Boston, MA area, Returning Heroes Ball (American Civil War) March 5 Holliston Town Hall, Holliston, Massachusetts Sponsored by: The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers Mostly Victorian Tea Dance March 20 Cambridge, Massachusetts Sponsored by: Eclectic Enterprises and The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers We'd love to meet you some day! Katy On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: I am travelling to the US in March to attend Costume Accessories: Head to Toe at Colonel Williamsburg. Does anyone know if there are any other historical costuming or dance events on in March that I can add to my itinerary? Bye for now, Aylwen Garden --- Costume Director, Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia President, Monaro Folk Society ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Fur trims advice
Thanks, I have a wonderful 1920s green metallic silk brocade with dead white rabbit fur collar and cuffs--my Mum recently found me a modern white rabbit fut jacket to replace them but I've never worked with fur before. Katy On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: Vogue Patterns mag Dec 2010/Jan 2011 issue has a realy nice article on working with fur. It has a huge chunk of advice for working with old furs, mending splits, reshaping and more. I dont generally get this mag, but this article was a must have for me. I too, have a closet full of vintage furs and a box in the garage labelled road kill filled with furs with big holes, badly worn areas other problems. --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 2:22 AM, Kate Bunting k.m.bunt...@derby.ac.uk wrote: My current project is to trim the 17th century jacket, which I made last winter, with fur. Political correctness has made it impossible to buy old fur coats in charity shops, but a fellow reenactor kindly gave me the sleeves of a rabbit coat during the summer. I want it to look like the fur-edged jackets you see in many Dutch paintings. Does anyone have any advice about this? I've borrowed a library book with instructions for making fur collars etc. It recommends you to dampen the skin side of the fur and pin it into shape on a board before cutting. I've made a paper template but haven't had time to do anything more yet. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any concerns to info...@derby.ac.uk. The policy is available here: http://www.derby.ac.uk/LIS/Email-Policy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costume-related calendars
Unfortunately Sally Queen stopped doing calendars a few years ago. I miss them. Katy On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 8:51 AM, Genie ghille...@mindspring.com wrote: Are there any Sally Queen calendars this year? -Original Message- From: Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com Sent: Nov 28, 2010 4:49 PM To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Costume-related calendars Fran: Thanks for starting this thread. A few years ago, I couldn't find a good costume-related calendar for love or money. On Nov 27, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Lavolta Press wrote: What costume-related calendars is everyone buying for 2011? -- Cathy Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com If you can make a girl laugh, you can make her do anything. — Marilyn Monroe ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Travelling to the US in March 2011
Dear Aylwen, We have 2 dance events in March up here in the Boston, MA area, Returning Heroes Ball (American Civil War) March 5 Holliston Town Hall, Holliston, Massachusetts Sponsored by: The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers Mostly Victorian Tea Dance March 20 Cambridge, Massachusetts Sponsored by: Eclectic Enterprises and The Commonwealth Vintage Dancers We'd love to meet you some day! Katy On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: I am travelling to the US in March to attend Costume Accessories: Head to Toe at Colonel Williamsburg. Does anyone know if there are any other historical costuming or dance events on in March that I can add to my itinerary? Bye for now, Aylwen Garden --- Costume Director, Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia President, Monaro Folk Society ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] OT Sherlock was Re: h-costume Digest, Vol 9, Issue 298
Our whole family watched to show and thought it was great, the boys were tired for school the next morning. Sherlock had shades of some of David Tennant's best Dr. Who moments. We also noticed the Princess Bride Iocaine powder inspiration. Great writing on this show, can't wait for the next episide. Katy On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Elena House exst...@gmail.com wrote: I've now seen the first episode (and am hooked) but I have to know--did anyone else have Princess Bride flashbacks during a certain scene? And to be slightly less off-topic, this show is NOT costumer friendly. I was trying to watch it while doing a little light hand-sewing, and didn't even notice at first that the deductions were annotated on the screen. I had to actually WATCH it, instead of listen to it like a radio show as I do with most TV. Bah. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] sewing workshop this saturday!
I sent this a few days ago but didn't see it come through so I am resending it. We (the Commonwealth Vintage Dancers) are hosting a 1920s sewing workshop this Saturday (September 25). If you know anyone in the Boston area who wants to learn how to make a quick 1920s dress, or who might like the informational book please forward this information! Thanks. Katy Coming this Weekend: Register today! One Hour Dress Workshop There's still time to register for the One Hour Dress Workshop, a day of 1920's fashion fun on September 25 at Melrose's Corinthian Hall. Enjoy a light tea and watch as we show you how to make an authentic Flapper style dress using the 1923 method from Mary Brooks Picken. Admission is only $15 and includes a beautiful book with instructions, illustrations and color fashion plates from the private collection of CVD's Catherine Bishop. For more details, visit http://www.vintagedancers.org -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] sewing workshop on Saturday in Melrose, MA
Hello, We are hosting a 1920s sewing workshop this Saturday (September 25). If you know anyone in the Boston area who wants to learn how to make a quick 1920s dress, or hwo might like the informational book please forward this information! Thanks. Katy Coming this Weekend: Register today! One Hour Dress Workshop There's still time to register for the One Hour Dress Workshop, a day of 1920's fashion fun on September 25 at Melrose's Corinthian Hall. Enjoy a light tea and watch as we show you how to make an authentic Flapper style dress using the 1923 method from Mary Brooks Picken. Admission is only $15 and includes a beautiful book with instructions, illustrations and color fashion plates from the private collection of CVD's Catherine Bishop. For more details, visit http://www.vintagedancers.org -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tom Tierney
It was exciting when I worked at the MFA in Boston when Janet Arnold came to the textile Dept. to study some items for her next book, the Renaissance PAtetrns of Fashion (she was also doing the final edits on Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe). It was fun to see Janet Arnold drawing Janet Arnold pattern diagrams in front of my eyes. She was such a nice lady. Katy On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Irina Moeller ladya...@cox.net wrote: Well, that had to be a special moment. I know that I sure delt tht way when I got to meet Janet Arnold. Anne -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Martha Kelly Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 12:12 AM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Tom Tierney Once upon a time I was in the special collections room at FIT doing some research and there was an elderly gentleman nearby similarly involved. We left together when the library closed and we fell into conversation. I asked what he was working on. Oh, he said, I do paper dolls. You mean like Tom Tierney? I AM Tom Tierney! He seemed genuinely delighted that I knew who he was. I'm sure I said something noncommittal like, Of COURSE I know you. So it goes to show that it's not just the research, but what you decide to do with it.. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.com www.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
I would love to see the photos! I almost made an Eleonora gown as part of my final project in college. Katy On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM, A. Thurman athur...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC for a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only found out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it. Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even back views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's interest I can put them on Flickr or the like. Allison T. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700 From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com, therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction Message-ID: aanlktim4gctdb8asnvi5dcjd-_drgtix42ah5c_uv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.kingstudio.it/ I must have been asleep in 2004. How did I miss this exhibit in NY??? Very cool. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] BUTTONS
I've had good luck looking at second hand stores/ thrift stores for Icelandic sweaters, L. L. Bean has had some with metal snowflake buttons. A cheaper alternative than buying new buttons. Katy On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com wrote: I am looking for metal (or metal look) shank buttons, with the motif of snowflakes, holly or stags. Does anyone have any sources to check out? So far I've come up with white plastic snowflakes... thanks alex -- So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with… ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Designer Magazine Pattern
It was the Standard Fashion Company, producing Standard Patterns The company put out magazines with several names over time, including The Standard Delineator and The Ladies' Standard Magazine The Standard Designer and eventually just The Designer Past Patterns offers copies of several of their 'teens patterns. http://www.pastpatterns.com/5239.html Katy On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Penny Ladnier penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working on an article from an 1899 Designer Magazine. Does anyone know who published the patterns that are mentioned throughout magazine? Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Designer Magazine Pattern
It's a different company, The Delineator was published by Butterick and they are two very different publishers in direct competition. These are the dates I have in my own collection: Ladies' Standard Magazine 1893 Standard Delineator 1895-96 Standard Designer 1896-98 The Designer 1898-1925 Delineators 1875-1926 So many more Delineators and Butterick patterns survive than the Designer magazines or Standard Patterns. Katy On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Penny Ladnier penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: Katy, Thank you! Is the The Standard Delineator different than Delineator published by Butterick? I have a large collection of the Butterick Delineator from 1880s-1930s. I have not seen Standard before the name in my collection. I only have a few Designer magazines. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Costuming workshops in the US?
Dear Aylwen. I am happy to hear you are planning to come to Newport Week! I missed your message last week as we were spending so much time getting the Newport schedule sorted out before we sent the brochure to the printer today. It should be mailed in the next couple of weeks. It looks like it will be an event filled week with some new classes and teachers. It also ends just in time if you wanted to get on a plane Friday morning and head off to Costume College afterwards. If you are in the Boston area on July 17 I will be hosting an Victorian Ball (I haven't gotten details on my website yet) http://www.vintagevictorian.com/nahant.html If you have any questions about Newport Week please feel free to ask. I look forward to meeting you in August. Katy On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Aylwen Garden aylwe...@gmail.com wrote: I'm coming to the US in July/Aug/Sept this year, and will mostly be on the East coast. Do you know if there are any historical costuming events, lectures or workshops scheduled for that time? Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au Member, Jane Austen Society of Australia Member, Australian Costumers Guild ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes
The MFA in Boston had two beautiful painted Silk dresses from the 18th Century that I helped dress on mannequins. One was yellow silk. http://72.5.117.144/fif=fpx/C/C42769CR-d1.fpxobj=iip,1.0wid=800cell=800,800cvt=jpeg Katy On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com wrote: Painting on material isn't just for movies. They now believe the designs on one of Queen Elizabeth I's dresses, which they believed embroidered, were actually painted onto the silk. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Becky Rautine Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 6:03 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] The Young Victoria's Film Costumes I looked at many of the photos on the site and found one that I had a question about... this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/moorina/3854505420/in/photostream/ Does it look painted to you Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine _ Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by Microsoft. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/196390710/direct/01/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Frasier corset
We went to a costume exhibit a couple of years ago at a small museum in Cold Spring, New York, and they had a really pretty corset pictured in the catalogue (it was red), but in the actual exhibit it was on the mannequin upside down! We mentioned it to the person on duty--I wonder if they fixed it. The exhibit catalogue is still available: http://www.pchs-fsm.org/pchsCatalogues.html Katy On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 8:25 PM, stils...@netspace.net.au wrote: Just watching an old Halloween episode of Frasier: The Ros character is wearing a corset that appears to be on back-to-front. If so, tghe second-worst corset boo-boo I have seen on TV ever, -C. PS: Worst was a documentary on the children of the Russian royal family with the daughters wearing their corsets upside-down, suspender ends flapping around their collars. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] c. 1890s skirt
I love the movement and shape of 1890s skirts. When adjusting the skirt panels for size I don't add much to the front panels, unless a very large adjustment is needed, but add the extra fullness to the back and side back panels. I usually make a skirt that also has a side panel, the whole skirt is almost a complete 1/2 circle when laid flat (See Past Patterns 1097) Also if a skirt with some body/flare is desired, I stiffen the front and side front (with haircloth, canvas or an organza for lighter silks) up to 24 inches, but often stiffen most of (or sometimes even the whole) back and side back. There is also a trick of adding elastic that is attached to the back seams at about lower hip level (I use safety pins for easy removal for ironing). The elastic is cut about 3-4 inches for each panel. This keeps the fullness to the back, and the technique is mentioned at the end of the instructions of the skirt you are thinking of making. So for a skirt with front, side front, side back, and back panels, a piece of elastic 8 inches attached at the center back and side backs, or 16 attached to the side back/side front seam too. This holds the fullness to the back very nicely. Katy On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Maureen Campbell morv...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would like to sew an 1890s skirt, and though I've found a pattern (at tudorlinks) I'm not sure how to adjust it for my measurements; I'm preparing for my mother's wedding and my brain is mush. Any tips you could send my way would be appreciated. Thank you. M. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Movie Recommendation from a Spy
We went to see Sherlock Holmes last night. The most interesting and amusing part of the movie for me from a costume standpoint, aside from the lovely ladies fitted cloaks and Irene's flirty red and blue ruffled bustle, was Watson's fiance's skirt. At the end of the movie, as she is walking up to Holmes' house, her skirt is about 6 inches too long and dragging in the muck on the sidewalk, I lean over to my husband and mention that her skirt is too long, but as he looks up she is walking into the house and her skirt is now, miraculously, the perfect length. The skirt must have been falling off and no one noticed in the outdoor shot. :~) Katy On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 9:03 PM, Chiara Francesca chiara.france...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, the two movies I want to see for dresses is this one and Young Victoria. I am so excited!!! Having read SH books I still firmly believe that Sir Arthur Conan Doyle is one of the leaders of Steam Punk before we named it. :) ♫ Chiara Francesca Which 'Chiara'...?? Nah... wasn't me ;-) -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of cc2010m...@cs.com Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 3:08 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Movie Recommendation from a Spy Hello! I just saw Sherlock Holmes this morning and I recommend it! I am not a huge Holmes buff, but have seen various incarnations of it. I get a regular fix thanks to one of the local PBS stations running the good ole Jeremy Brett version all the time. I did have my doubts about Robert Downey Jr. as Holmes, but he does a good job and maintains his accent all the time, unlike one of the supporting cast. The men's fashion wasn't that exciting, but the women's was. I have to go see it again to see a dress that I missed during the scene that occurred when I ducked out for a moment. The technology was good and period possible. Although I have doubts about the taser that appeared in a lab. But its use was well done. There is even one gizmo that mixed all tech of the times. A definite good choice in this movie was Guy Ritchie as director. He is the one you did Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Snatch, and Revolver. He is good at twists and turns, and then explaining it to the viewer in such a way that does not seem like a cheap plot device. Next weekend, I am catching Young Victoria. Henry W. Osier Chairman, Costume-Con 28 May 7 to May 10, 2010 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin www.CC28.org Look for our fan page on Facebook! And on Twitter: CostumeCon28 Got questions? Join the CostumeCon Yahoo group! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] garment rack on sale
The container store is in the final weekend of a sale, included is a very nice heavy duty garment rack: Commercial Garment Rack http://www.containerstore.com/browse/Product.jhtml?CATID=78790PRODID=68653 It is sturdy, can be jam-packed with as much clothing as possible space-wise without collapsing. Only drawback is that the wheels don't have locks. I have several of them and love them, beats any other garment rack I've ever owned. -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1913?
I have a page on my website with some undergarment illustrations from the 1910s, including some tango knickers! http://www.vintagevictorian.com/costume_1910_acc.html About 15 years ago I bought a girdle, made of a woven mostly-cotton fabric that was almost identical to 1910s corsets (corsets get shorter by mid-decade), it's great. I don't know if they can still be found. I don't know of a pattern for a corset of the. The corset doesn't support the bust in the way a 19th century corset does, a separate brassiere would probably have been worn. Katy On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Maggiemaggi...@gmail.com wrote: And while we're at it, what sort of stays or whatever do I need if I want to wear this authentically? I'm serious, I am totally lost in this era, I just know I love the look. MaggiRos Maggie Secara ~A Compendium of Common Knowledge 1558-1603 Available at your favorite online bookseller See our gallery at http://www.zazzle.com/popinjaypress On Sun, Aug 16, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Maggie maggi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't think it looks 30s at all. It's a pity this is the only still picture I could find. There are some better angles in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6Ym-46-WY# Look at about 1:20 and 1:51 for a front view. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
Thanks Ann, it's a girl this time! A whole new set of outfits to research and make. I just hope she's not a tomboy and wants to wear period dresses. Katy On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Ann Catelli elvestoor...@yahoo.com wrote: Best wishes, Katy. I see some sewing-for-baby in your future, unless you saved some of the tiny clothes I saw your boys in. It has been quite a while. Ann in CT --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Katy Bishop katybisho...@gmail.com wrote: I am currently 6 1/2 months pregnant so I have been thinking about what to wear for the various eras of events I have during this time. 1820s was really easy--my normal dress fit great without any alteration. Also 1860s, just raised the waist (went the sacque and petticoat route last pregnancy); still have to make a gestation stay though. Just last night I wore an 1890s wrapper all dolled up for evening wear to a dance performance. For 1910s here are a few Past Patterns patterns I have found/hope to find useful: This can be adjusted for pregnancy: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8109.html a 1914 tea gown--with pleated front that I would gather for pregnancy, the waist is nice and high. This one: http://www.pastpatterns.com/4269.html a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. 2 patterns that actually mention maternity wear, but may be too late in the decade: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8714.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity or general wear and http://www.pastpatterns.com/9225.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity wear. I hope to make one of these for a party I have to go to in April, a Ragtime Ball, and then wear post-pregnancy in August at Newport Dance Week. Katy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
I own a lovely pink silk day dress about 1894 with lacing for the entire length of the side front seams to let out for pregnancy, probably wouldn't have worked for the entire pregnancy but would have helped disguise the first few months after one has started to show. It has a false jacket front that disguises the lacing and expanding waistline. It is a very high fashion outfit made by a Boston (I think) dressmaker. It's wonderful in that it is actually pretty. I agree that ideally it was not proper to appear very pregnant in public. Disguise is the catch-word. A friend copied an original 1910s 2 piece dress when she was pregnant, the top consisted of a loose, smock-like, top which was belted with a sash at the high waist, above the belly, and a separate skirt. I have come across several articles on maternity sewing in 'teens magazines. Wish I had gathered then together at the time, but I didn't think I'd be pregnant again.:~) Katy On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:10 PM, albert...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 4/5/2009 11:47:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, katybisho...@gmail.com writes: a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. * Good heavens, woman! This is 1912! You aren't supposed to out and about...pregnant and nursing! SeriouslyI like the 1st dress #8109. Imagine it in a busy, Art Nouveau patterned fabric. The lines running down each side front from neckline to hem seem perfect for your condition. Add a narrow scarf that goes around your neck with ends hang to the hem...one in front and one in back maybe? Very spiffy and many elements to detour from a pregnant figure. (I doubt in this era anyone would display their pregnancy... if not try to hide it completely.) **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221621488x1201450096/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DAprilfooterNO62) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Edwardian maternity dresses
I am currently 6 1/2 months pregnant so I have been thinking about what to wear for the various eras of events I have during this time. 1820s was really easy--my normal dress fit great without any alteration. Also 1860s, just raised the waist (went the sacque and petticoat route last pregnancy); still have to make a gestation stay though. Just last night I wore an 1890s wrapper all dolled up for evening wear to a dance performance. For 1910s here are a few Past Patterns patterns I have found/hope to find useful: This can be adjusted for pregnancy: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8109.html a 1914 tea gown--with pleated front that I would gather for pregnancy, the waist is nice and high. This one: http://www.pastpatterns.com/4269.html a 1911 day dress The waist could be raised a bit and the skirt altered, and I wonder if nursing slits could be hidden under the yoke for post-pregnancy. 2 patterns that actually mention maternity wear, but may be too late in the decade: http://www.pastpatterns.com/8714.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity or general wear and http://www.pastpatterns.com/9225.html Ladies' Dress. Suitable for maternity wear. I hope to make one of these for a party I have to go to in April, a Ragtime Ball, and then wear post-pregnancy in August at Newport Dance Week. Katy On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Elizabeth Walpole ewalp...@grapevine.com.au wrote: A friend passed this request on to me but I'm not good on the Edwardian era, so I'm passing it on again. I figure you're the one I should ask! A friend of mine in America is going to a PEERS picnic in August (Not sure what that is, but I'm guessing it's a historical recreation group) she'll be about 5 months pregnant by then, so she's looking for ANY images of what a pregnant woman would have worn in the Edwardian period (specifically 1910-1914), any suggestions about where she should start looking? So far I've suggested that the empire line fashion of that era should work OK but has anyone got better resources. Thanks Elizabeth --- Elizabeth Walpole Canberra, Australia http://magpiecostumer.110mb.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume