Re: Accessing The Archives
Darren wrote: That problem has been rectified. Thank you, Darren. Sam wrote: You can also search them through the Google Groups Archive http://groups.google.com/groups?oi=djqas_ugroup=bit.listserv.ibm-main Thank you, Sam. Using the mailing list exclusively, I just forget the possibility to check the news group. Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CF usage at DR location
- snip - I have a full test this weekend, so hopefully will have some of this ironed out. I am going with a newly formatted CFRM dataset and retaining all the other COUPLE datasets. If I use a new CFRM dataset, where is the CF policy information stored? I was thinking it was stored in the XCF COUPLE dataset as how would z/OS know how to format the CFRM dataset when coming up? I hope to come up in the new environment and the structures are re-created in the new CF, but all other COUPLE datasets are intact, e.g. DASD Logger files will retain their state. - snip - Why wait? If you want to use a newly created CFRM couple dataset, allocate it on a mirrored volume, write the policy you want into it, and that should be it. Just don't use it before the test. But, if you are already testing, you could first try to IPL with the old CFRM couple dataset, having a policy with all CFs in it. If it does not work, take the new CFRM dataset. Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Info-ZIP and blksize
Last few days I used Info-ZIP quite a lot (z/OS 1.6 and 1.7). The problem I have is that the blocksize of zipped files equals 80, so the zipped files need a lot of space. E.g. adding: 'N500223/D#060301/CHAN#IOQ/RMF#BC01.TXT' (in=5893937) (out=523379) (deflated 91%) total bytes=5893937, compressed=523379 - 91% savings and the dataset allocations: Command - Enter / to select action Tracks %Used -- N500223.D#060301.CHAN#IOQ.RMF#BC01.TXT 120 90 N500223.D#060301.CHAN#IOQ.ZIP#BC01 90 93 Is there any possibility to influence the block size (without modifying the code)? Zaromil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P.S.: You can also use the EX command in SYSTSIN to invoke your RACF command file as a CLIST, instead of specifying it directly in the SYSTSIN DD statement. SYSTSIN DD * EX 'DSN' /* Nice idea, but how do I get the same behavior as feeding the file into program IKJEFT1A, i.e. execution stops after the first command with non-zero return code? -- Ulrich Boche SVA GmbH, Germany IBM Premier Business Partner -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New CLIST on SYSPROC - refresh
Skip Robinson wrote: I know the problem is solved now, but I remember a similarly mysterious occurrence in the past. It was one of those 'this could not possibly be happening' situations. Two systems in a shared DASD environment came to point to two different devices with the same volser. It's unlikely but not impossible if a volume has been copied to a another location so that there's a duplicate volser, and a newly IPLed system varies offline the physical device that other systems are looking at. The result can drive you crazy. ;-) Your scenario does not cause data lost. The better is to have two volumes with same volser, believing the systems access each own copy, but the reality is different... BTW: the problem is not solved, only my test on sandbox system was mistaken. I'll recreate it. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Initiator hung
Bill Westland wrote: Last time I had this problem was on an OS/390 2.4 system. I found a CA product (CA-1 or CA-7) that had corrupted the initiators. I was able to FORCE the initiators and JES was able to restart the initiators (new ASID of course) and we ran throughout the week without any further problems. I think that we were making a large update to the TMC for a migration or demigration that initiated the problem. The TMC update ricocheted into the CA-7 hooks that clobbered the initiators and fortunately we were only limited to three inits that took hits. We needed to get the inits restarted to avoid making changed to our automation for the batch window changes Miklos Szigetvari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi If someone has seen something like this: Two of our inactive initiators don't want to accept job's, they are just hung. - z/OS 1.5 - Non WLM managed initiators, - no MAS , - no SYSPLEX , - init stop/start seems to not help - we have applied two day's before some JES2 SYSPLEX MAS PTF's - the other initiators are working properly Hi Thank you, I'm searching for some kind of FORCE, but till now I was unable to find -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards Miklos Szigetvari ISIS Information Systems GmbH Alter Wienerweg 12 2344 Maria Enzersdorf Austria --- This e-mail is only intended for the recipient and not legally binding. Unauthorised use, publication, reproduction or disclosure of the content of this e-mail is not permitted. This email has been checked for known viruses, but ISIS accepts no responsibility for malicious or inappropriate content. --- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9840 cart question
I have verified that we have StorageTek 9840 drives. You have all given me an answer that my boss can now work with. I will pass on the information. Thanks to all who have responded. I have great good fun reading and passing on knowledge and articles from this forum even though most of it is way, way over my head. Lynne Karson Senior Software Specialist U.S. Senate Sergeant at Arms (202)224-9587 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cliff McNeill Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:22 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 9840 cart question Lynne, My recollection is that the STK 9840 tape drives are not in anyway compatible with 3480 tape cartridges. The 9840 uses a twin spooled cartridge and has a different form factor. Cliff McNeill -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Podcast on SOA
It can be downloaded here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/podcast/websphere/ws-soa7fnd2.html ?S_TACT=105AGX58S_CMP=DNLca=dnl I'm in the process of downloading it. It is a 19 minute long mp3 file, about 17.6Mb (or Mib or?). There is an associated transcript available for reading as well. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes
Doc said: I've yet to see a mainframe to client-server transition that didn't end in tears, higher costs, lowered service levels, gnashing of teeth, roaming gangs of SysProgs threatening passers by in Hex, large cracks appearing in the Earth's surface and all life in the Universe coming to a crashing halt. I assumed you meant, putting a hex on passerbys using HEX...on second thought, never mind -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9840 cart question
we have 9490's they read 3490 and 3480 tapes. you say your 9480 read 3490 tapes. Karson, Lynne (SAA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 03/15/2006 03:30 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject 9840 cart question Hello listers, After years of telling us that we can only use 3480 tapes, the POTAYBES (Powers That Be - ripped off from fantasy author Anne McCaffery), are now telling us that they are dumping the 4480 drives and now we are to use 9480 drives. These drives can read/write 3490 carts, can they also at least read if not write 3480 tapes? My Sysprog is recovering from brain dump from SHARE this week and is unavailable. TIA Lynne Karson Senior Software Specialist U.S. Senate Sergeant at Arms (202)224-9587 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - This electronic mail message, and any of the accompanying documents, may contain confidential or privileged information. Any unauthorized disclosure or distribution of such information is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please notify the sender immediately and destroy the message. Messages sent through electronic media may be subject to delays or unauthorized alterations. Neither The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, Ltd. nor any of its affiliates is responsible for any such delay or alteration. This message may contain a commercial advertisement or promotion of a commercial product or service. If you do not wish to receive messages of this kind from the sender in the future, please reply to this message and type REMOVE MY EMAIL ADDRESS in the subject field, or write to the sender at 1251 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY 10020-1104. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes
Speaking as someone at a shop with a 2086-240, I'm a little concerned *now*. Jon snip so let's see, 9672-RB5, a grand total of 89 mips. I'll start getting concerned when I see 15,000 mip shops migrating off the mainframe. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9840 cart question
In a message dated 3/16/2006 6:43:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I have verified that we have StorageTek 9840 drives. You have all given me an answer that my boss can now work with. I will pass on the information. Thanks to all who have responded. I have great good fun You're doing fine. In the IBM world of hardware delivery there's a formal process review of new hardware called SAPR(System Assurance Product Review). It's usually presented by the ISV and covers features ordered and installed and HCD changes,power requirements,A/C or BTUs, modems for phone home, PTF's or software levels required to support and that the service agreement will be supported by trained personnel. Usually it's pretty cut and dried and everybody signs off knowing who has to do what and by when. IIRC you can order the 9840 with a C18 rack for IBM 3590's. So it's real important to know how it's configured down to popping the top and looking at a cartridge or two. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SDSF - COMMAND INPUT === question
My COMMAND INPUT === dropped to the bottom of the screen in SDSF and I don't know why. My Command line at bottom in option 0 of ISPF is not selected and all of my ISPF panels have the command line at the top. What the heck did I do to SDSF? TIA, Charlie J -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF - COMMAND INPUT === question
Charlie, to get your command line back to the top, do the following: Go into SDSF, any panel Type the word SETTINGS on the command line, press Enter. This will bring up the IPSF Settings panel: Log/List Function keys Colors Environ Workstation Identifier Help ¢¢ ISPF Settings Command === More: + Options Print Graphics Enter / to select optionFamily printer type 2 / Command line at bottom == Device name . . . . / Panel display CUA mode Aspect ratio . . . 0 Remove the / before the Command line at bottom. Press Enter. Press PF3 to save and exit. This settings change will be memorized, but be sure to exit ISPF cleanly (don't allow the session to timeout / get cancelled) so the change really is stored in your ISPF profile dataset for the future. Regards, Ulrich Krueger Mainframe Systems Services National Semiconductor Corp. Santa Clara, CA 95051 Tel: (408) 721-8071 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/16/2006 07:46:32 AM: My COMMAND INPUT === dropped to the bottom of the screen in SDSF and I don't know why. My Command line at bottom in option 0 of ISPF is not selected and all of my ISPF panels have the command line at the top. What the heck did I do to SDSF? TIA, Charlie J -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
(fwd) Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes - Part 2
On 15 Mar 2006 16:36:34 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm, another shop, 13 mips this time. When I see 15,000 mip shops migrating off the mainframe, I will be concerned. so, he got rid of one 2003-205 mainframe, replaced one 13 mip machine for 30 servers, not to mention additional floor space, cooling, etc., etc. I think no further comment needed. Stupidity reigns supreme evidently. So Colohan took the 24 servers he already had, added six more and left IBM and its 2003-205 mainframe behind. It looks like he doesn't know how to run his server shop. Regardless of platform (Unix, Windows, etc.), unless he is running the largest size server, he should have to just upgrade the existing hardware with faster CPU's and/or more memory. He shouldn't need to make those other expenditures. Given that the mainframe was running 2.10, I suspect that the applications running on it were ones that were less than optimal and this may have forced application consolidation and upgrade. Frankly I would like to see more of the story. - Original Message - From: Kopischke, David G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes - Part 2 Greetings again, Another link on that page pointed to a company that already made this migration. This story is from March 2005. Has anybody heard how well it worked for them and how well it's working now ??? Ancor IT director Kelly Colohan had a decision to make. Informed by IBM that it would no longer support MVS 2.10, the operating system he was running on his mainframe, Colohan had two choices. He could either stick with Big Blue by buying a new mainframe, or bump his ancillary servers up to the varsity and migrate. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1066535,00.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9840 cart question
I was under a misunderstanding. We code unit=3490 in our JCL, but the cartridges are really 3590's. Heaven forbid that our systems side tell the application side what the real story is. That is what I love about working here. I get to run around and verify all kinds of things in addition to doing my own work. Thanks for all of your comments. Lynne Karson Senior Software Specialist U.S. Senate Sergeant at Arms (202)224-9587 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Bongiorno Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 10:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 9840 cart question we have 9490's they read 3490 and 3480 tapes. you say your 9480 read 3490 tapes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF - COMMAND INPUT === question
This settings change will be memorized, but be sure to exit ISPF cleanly (don't allow the session to timeout / get cancelled) so the change really is stored in your ISPF profile dataset for the future. Or: have a REXX EXEC (call it PROFSAVE): /* REXX */ trace address ISPEXEC VGET ZAPPLID TBSAVE zapplid || PROF LIBRARY(ISPPROF) exit And run it from the command line == tso %profsave - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CF usage at DR location
You should probably *not* use the DSN/VOL parameters for normal production policies. By default the system will find and use the active CFRM couple data set. But whenever you need to put a policy into *another* couple data set, that's where the parameters come into play. You only need to put the policy in the primary couple data set; it will get copied into the alternate data set at IPL time. The suggestion to create and mirror--but not use!--the DR couple data set makes sense in order to test out both methods. I never thought of doing that to see how things have changed in recent years. However, I would caution against depending on this practice for the long term unless you also implement a solid procedure that *always* duplicates *every* policy change into the DR couple data set. Otherwise you will IPL some day in DR mode and find that some structure(s) are missing or hopelessly out of date and not usable. Also keep in mind that there is no way (that I know of) to determine in DR mode which of multiple policies was the active one at mirror-break time. I prefer to (re)create a policy using the last updated one in the library that holds all the policy build jobs. Work out a practice that you're comfortable with and avoids the most likely operational errors--such as forgetting to make the same update in two different places. Now *that's* a recipe for disaster. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile [EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/16/2006 05:09:10 AM: Now the pieces make sense. I have made changes to our live CFRM policy for so long I did not even know you could code the CFRM DSN in the IXCMIAPU utility. I had always let it default in the past. I imagine I must run it twice for the Primary/Alternate CFRM DSN. Thanks you very much everyone for the assistance, hopefully good news come Monday. On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:47:57 -0800, Skip Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When you create/reformat the CFRM couple data set, there is no CFRM policy. It must be (re)created from a driver system before the first DR IPL. (You could kludge it with multiple IPLs of the DR system, but you really don't want to go there.) On the driver system, (re)create the CFRM policy you want to use--with the DR CFs defined and included in all structure PREFLISTs--and explicitly point to the new CFRM data set including DSN and VOL. Note: if you don't include DSN and VOL, the policy will land in the CFRM couple data set of the driver system; no good for the DR system. The new CFRM couple data set will now contain only one policy--the one you just (re)created. At the first IPL of the DR system, there will not be any active policy, so you need to name it in the COUPLExx member of PARMLIB that you IPL with: COUPLE SYSPLEX(xxx) PCOUPLE(x1) ACOUPLE(x2) CLEANUP(nn) INTERVAL(nn) --CFRMPOL(new-policy) /* CFRM POLICY TO ACTIVATE IF NONE FOUND */ The CFRMPOL parameter tells the system which policy to activate if there is none already active at IPL. This is where you name the policy you (re)created from the driver system above. All other couple data sets, if mirrored, will contain the data they had when mirroring was broken. . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: (fwd) Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes - Part 2
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:18:03 -0400, Clark Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given that the mainframe was running 2.10, I suspect that the applications running on it were ones that were less than optimal and this may have forced application consolidation and upgrade. Frankly I would like to see more of the story. I E-Mailed the author of the Simon Shuster story and he actually responded !!! He said he'd bring up the Ancor story at their editorial meeting to possibly do a follow up. I'll pass whatever information I get to the list. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 9840 cart question
In a message dated 3/16/2006 10:30:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cartridges are really 3590's. Heaven forbid that our systems side tell the application side what the real story is. That is what I love about working here. I get to run around and verify all kinds of things in addition to doing my own work. Thanks for all of your comments BTDT, DOD and DOE. There's some good courses on Effective Communications, Dealing with Difficult people, Creative Listening, whatever you want to call it. Some of them are actually are beneficial. Every now and then there's real gem. I went to some system design something up at the Navy Yard and darned if Grace Hopper didn't teach a few of the lectures. As bright as she was her stories of Admiral Nimitz and Alan Touring were priceless... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IXFP No Longer Supported
Bruno, Sorry mate, but with PPRC the Device End will come back to the Host whether the write to the Site B Bay succeeds or fails. This means lost data, even with PPRC Synchronous Remote Copy. Same is true for Synchronous Remote Copy using SRDF and TrueCopy. You have to be running PPRC with CRITICAL(YES), SRDF DOMINO, or TRUECOPY FENCELEVEL(DATA) to have the scenario you describe. Ron PS Glad to see this terrific thread is still running while I was away. If a plane strikes ( forget the laser beam :-) ) one of my bay,i am OK,i still have my site B with proper data because device end comes back only once secondary is written . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: virtual copies
Bruce, At Time splits with Shadowimage and/or TrueCopy use Timestamps to initiate the split and create consistency. There is no blockade of writes for a few seconds while all the volumes are split. Ron With normal backups, and even with normal instant replication, I/O consistency cannot be guaranteed. However, EMC, HDS, and now IBM have mechanisms for guaranteeing I/O consistency when you use instant replication on a set of volumes. In all cases it involves a way of suspending I/O to all the volumes involved until the replication is complete (a few seconds). -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Assembler question
Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
What is the length of ZON? Bill Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] COM To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Mainframe cc Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject .EDU Assembler question 03/16/2006 12:03 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] .EDU Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
The replacement instruction moves the ADDRESS into ZON, instead of the contents at the ADDRESS as previously coded. Rob Scott Rocket Software http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
Bill Larsen wrote: Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Maybe because ADR1 should be an address constant? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
Bill, break out your old Assembler 101 classroom handbook or the Assembler Language manual and ask yourself the following question: What does a L (Load) instruction do, as opposed to the LA (Load _Address_) instruction? Also please note that MVC moves (copies) storage from the _address_ pointed to by the second operand into the storage location specified by the first operand. The length of the data move is defined by the length fo the first operand, ZON. I assume that the length of ZON also is 4? If it's not, it won't work. Regards, Ulrich Krueger IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 03/16/2006 10:03:25 AM: Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
Bill wrote: Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Assume that the following: Basereg = 12 Offset of ZON = X'444' Offset of ADR1 = X'200' Content of ADR1 = address of CL32'X...X' Length of ZON = 4 Then the first instruction would look like: D2 03 C444 A000 which would copy 4 X's to ZON The second instruction would like like: D2 03 C444 C200 which would copy 4 bytes starting at ADR1, which contains the address of the 32 X's. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
Bill, ADR1 is based on some register and offset in your program. Let's pretend it is R3, and is 4 bytes off of R3. So, being that, the instructions looks like this: L R10,4(,R3) MVC ZON,0(R10) By rewriting the instructions, you get this: MVC ZON,4(R3) Can you see the difference now? Todd - Original Message - From: Bill Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:03 PM Subject: Assembler question Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
UID(0) and concurrent processes
Hello listers, While installing an upgrade to a product, the instructions indicate to assign UID(0) to an ID. The product in question involves running a Java server, and the webserver task supporting the Java server likewise has this requirement. When questioning Support for the product, it was mentioned that in Topic 5.4.1 of z/OS V1R6.0 UNIX System Services Planning, bullet 3 explains the reason: 5.4.1 What can superusers do? Superusers can do the following: * Pass all security checks so that the superuser can access any file in the file system. * Manage processes * Have an unlimited number of processes running concurrently. For a started procedure, this is true only if it has a UID of 0. It is not true for a trusted or privileged process with a different UID. * Change identity from one UID to another. * Use setrlimit() to increase any of the system limits for a process. The parent process propagates its UID and TRUSTED or PRIVILEGED attribute to a forked child process. Thus, a UID of 0 is propagated to a forked child. Does this mean that a non UID(0) ID cannot have concurrently running processes? I am not yet at z/OS 1.6, and the command D OMVS,A=ALL from my system shows a number of processes from IDs that do not have a UID assigned at all! Most do have a UID assigned, and most that have concurrent processed do have UID(0). My goal is to have more unique IDs, and utilize either UNIXPRIV or BPX.SUPERUSER. Will I get bit when I move to z/OS 1.6?! Thanks, Steve Horein -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes
NOTICE: All information in and attached to the e-mail(s) below may be proprietary, confidential, privileged and otherwise protected from improper or erroneous disclosure. If you are not the sender's intended recipient, you are not authorized to intercept, read, print, retain, copy, forward, or disseminate this message. If you have erroneously received this communication, please notify the sender immediately by phone (704-758-1000) or by e-mail and destroy all copies of this message (electronic, paper, or otherwise). Thank you. MAXPROCUSER in BPXPRMxx controls the number of concurrent processes a single UID can run. I believe they are looking for the UNLIMITED part that 0 gives. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Horein Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: UID(0) and concurrent processes Hello listers, While installing an upgrade to a product, the instructions indicate to assign UID(0) to an ID. The product in question involves running a Java server, and the webserver task supporting the Java server likewise has this requirement. When questioning Support for the product, it was mentioned that in Topic 5.4.1 of z/OS V1R6.0 UNIX System Services Planning, bullet 3 explains the reason: 5.4.1 What can superusers do? Superusers can do the following: * Pass all security checks so that the superuser can access any file in the file system. * Manage processes * Have an unlimited number of processes running concurrently. For a started procedure, this is true only if it has a UID of 0. It is not true for a trusted or privileged process with a different UID. * Change identity from one UID to another. * Use setrlimit() to increase any of the system limits for a process. The parent process propagates its UID and TRUSTED or PRIVILEGED attribute to a forked child process. Thus, a UID of 0 is propagated to a forked child. Does this mean that a non UID(0) ID cannot have concurrently running processes? I am not yet at z/OS 1.6, and the command D OMVS,A=ALL from my system shows a number of processes from IDs that do not have a UID assigned at all! Most do have a UID assigned, and most that have concurrent processed do have UID(0). My goal is to have more unique IDs, and utilize either UNIXPRIV or BPX.SUPERUSER. Will I get bit when I move to z/OS 1.6?! Thanks, Steve Horein -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
z/Journal DB2 Tidbit DB2 Podcasts at http://www.db2expert.com/podcasts.html
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Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Horein Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 1:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: UID(0) and concurrent processes Hello listers, While installing an upgrade to a product, the instructions indicate to assign UID(0) to an ID. The product in question involves running a Java server, and the webserver task supporting the Java server likewise has this requirement. When questioning Support for the product, it was mentioned that in Topic 5.4.1 of z/OS V1R6.0 UNIX System Services Planning, bullet 3 explains the reason: 5.4.1 What can superusers do? Superusers can do the following: * Pass all security checks so that the superuser can access any file in the file system. * Manage processes * Have an unlimited number of processes running concurrently. For a started procedure, this is true only if it has a UID of 0. It is not true for a trusted or privileged process with a different UID. * Change identity from one UID to another. * Use setrlimit() to increase any of the system limits for a process. The parent process propagates its UID and TRUSTED or PRIVILEGED attribute to a forked child process. Thus, a UID of 0 is propagated to a forked child. Does this mean that a non UID(0) ID cannot have concurrently running processes? I am not yet at z/OS 1.6, and the command D OMVS,A=ALL from my system shows a number of processes from IDs that do not have a UID assigned at all! Most do have a UID assigned, and most that have concurrent processed do have UID(0). My goal is to have more unique IDs, and utilize either UNIXPRIV or BPX.SUPERUSER. Will I get bit when I move to z/OS 1.6?! Thanks, Steve Horein I am running on z/OS 1.6. I have many concurrent processes running with my ID, which has a UID of 1009. The maximum per UID is set in BPXPRMxx member with the MAXPROCSYS() parameter. That sets the maximum number of concurrent processes for a single UID. What the bullet you mentioned means is that UID(0) is not limited by MAXPROCSYS, but can have an unlimited number of processes running, regardless of the setting in MAXPROCSYS. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FLEX-ES
We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Thank You, Jay Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Does Flex-ES support z/Architecture for production use? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
According to Gartner it does. Jay Howard Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 03/16/2006 02:55 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Re: FLEX-ES Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Does Flex-ES support z/Architecture for production use? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
Yes it does some prior draw backs was it did not support ESCON which it does now and even though it supported parallel channels, you could not connect them to DASD controllers I have only seen it used at one MVS location , but many VM, VSE shops due to the fact IBM does not have a low mip solution for them Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU FTWARE.COM cc: Sent by: IBM Subject: Re: FLEX-ES Mainframe Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] EDU 03/16/2006 02:55 PM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Does Flex-ES support z/Architecture for production use? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
I may be wrong, but last time I heard, z/OS 64bit was not licensed/supported (whatever legal words) besides development purposes. On 3/16/06, Jay Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Thank You, Jay Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
Edward E. Jaffe wrote: Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Does Flex-ES support z/Architecture for production use? Sure, if you pay the standard license fees for the z/OS base and any products you use. It's only us developers who get the software gratis and are thus forbidden to use it for production. At least that's my understanding. It's also my understanding that those fees can be pretty high. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes
Any UID can run concurrent processes. UID 0 unlimited number, others are limited by MAXsomething in BPXPRMxx. On 3/16/06, Steve Horein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello listers, While installing an upgrade to a product, the instructions indicate to assign UID(0) to an ID. The product in question involves running a Java server, and the webserver task supporting the Java server likewise has this requirement. When questioning Support for the product, it was mentioned that in Topic 5.4.1 of z/OS V1R6.0 UNIX System Services Planning, bullet 3 explains the reason: 5.4.1 What can superusers do? Superusers can do the following: * Pass all security checks so that the superuser can access any file in the file system. * Manage processes * Have an unlimited number of processes running concurrently. For a started procedure, this is true only if it has a UID of 0. It is not true for a trusted or privileged process with a different UID. * Change identity from one UID to another. * Use setrlimit() to increase any of the system limits for a process. The parent process propagates its UID and TRUSTED or PRIVILEGED attribute to a forked child process. Thus, a UID of 0 is propagated to a forked child. Does this mean that a non UID(0) ID cannot have concurrently running processes? I am not yet at z/OS 1.6, and the command D OMVS,A=ALL from my system shows a number of processes from IDs that do not have a UID assigned at all! Most do have a UID assigned, and most that have concurrent processed do have UID(0). My goal is to have more unique IDs, and utilize either UNIXPRIV or BPX.SUPERUSER. Will I get bit when I move to z/OS 1.6?! Thanks, Steve Horein -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 2:13 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FLEX-ES snip Sure, if you pay the standard license fees for the z/OS base and any products you use. It's only us developers who get the software gratis and are thus forbidden to use it for production. At least that's my understanding. It's also my understanding that those fees can be pretty high. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. Not entirely. PWD people can get z/OS running 64-bit mode. Commercial users are still limited to running z/OS in 31-bit mode. However, I think that the newest instructions are available even in 31-bit mode. I've also heard some rumors on the FLEX forum that there is a true 64-bit host version of FLEX (Athlon64 and EM64T processors in 64 bit mode) that cannot be rolled out yet because IBM has not (yet) permitted it. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer UICI Insurance Center Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 13:52 -0600, McKown, John wrote: The maximum per UID is set in BPXPRMxx member with the MAXPROCSYS() parameter. Um, MAXPROCUSER? -- David Andrews A. Duda and Sons, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/Journal DB2 Tidbit DB2 Podcasts at http://www.db2expert.com/podcasts.html
z/Journal really is a good publication and it's FREE. Only in the US. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:29:04 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... it's to everyone's benefit that the experienced SMP users lend them a helping hand. At the outset. But if they ignore what the experienced SMP users told them then they should clean up their own mess. ... My original response appears to have gone into the bit bucket os I'll try again. I think we're just going to disagree on this one. It sounds to me that you expect infalable SMP users. I've used SMP since SMP3 in the mid '70s, but not often enough to become expert by anybody's standard. I've shot myself in the foot only a few (3 or 4) times but they were doozies. One was due to an incorrectly built SYSMOD; the others were due to my own stupidity and/or carelessness. Luckily the experts were willing to brainstorm with me until we came up with solutions. I definitely felt it was my responsibility to clean up my mess, but I also felt it was my responsibility to not make things worse, and that required help. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 14:52 -0500, Jay Howard wrote: We are a small shop running a zSeries/890 (capacity 130) and management is looking at using a FLEX-ES system for disaster recovery purposes. Is there anyone that has or is doing this that would be willing to share their experiences? You can reply directly to me if you like. Sorry, but every time I hear FLEX I think laptop with dongle. I have this recurring image of the DR site being folded up and taken home to finish that Gantt chart or somesuch ... One day I guess I'll see one that isn't in a bag on the back of a motor bike. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
McKown, John wrote: Not entirely. PWD people can get z/OS running 64-bit mode. Commercial users are still limited to running z/OS in 31-bit mode. However, I think that the newest instructions are available even in 31-bit mode. In this context, 64-bit mode is shorthand for z/Architecture i.e., ARCHLVL=2. This architectural mode distinguishes itself from ESA/390 in many ways, including 64-bit general purpose and control registers, a 128-bit PSW, a new 8K PSA layout, new DAT structures, and many, many new instructions not available in ESA/390 mode. Some instructions (those marked N3 in PoOp) are available in either architectural mode on machines implementing z/Architecture. The generally accepted use of the term 64-bit mode indicates that a program is executing in the 64-bit _addressing_ mode. When the operating system is running in the z/Architectural mode (ARCHLVL=2), programs running therein may issue instructions implemented by z/Architecture (e.g., the so-called grande instructions) regardless of the addressing mode in which those programs are executing. It's best not to use the terms 64-bit mode to describe the z/Architectural mode and 31-bit mode to describe the ESA/390 architectural mode. I never do it. Too confusing... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMP/E for non-sysprogs?
On Thu, 2006-03-16 at 14:22 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I've shot myself in the foot only a few (3 or 4) times but they were doozies. soapbox *Everyone* who uses SMP to any degree has a war story. The situations that degenerate into fiasco are generally exacerbated by attempts at recovery. With a good cloning regime, it quickly becomes apparent that tossing the whole environment away and starting again is a viable option. Even after some days/weeks spent on the task. The planning and install effort already expended shorten the re-run effort considerably. I do this with some regularity due to the appalling packaging practices of some of our vendors. And yes, sometimes it our end that is responsible. Regardless, if it looks like costing a day to fix, and the result might still be iffy, I'm generally want to start a new clone off in the background - if it never sees the light of day, who cares. /soapbox Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FLEX-ES
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:19:34 +1000, Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but every time I hear FLEX I think laptop with dongle. I have this recurring image of the DR site being folded up and taken home to finish that Gantt chart or somesuch ... One day I guess I'll see one that isn't in a bag on the back of a motor bike. It takes me and the missus to get my one into the boot of the car, although I suppose you could just squeeze it into a sidecar! I have actually heard of people who have, for DR purposes, put their FLEX box into a van and driven a distance away from the impending disaster, plugged it in, connected it to the network and continued operations. Can't really do that with a z9 (or an MS server farm for that matter.) Seb. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CA-OPS/MVS
I am currently in the process of switching from CA-Opera to CA-OPS/MVS. We are currently in the process of bringing in CA to help us convert . I was just trying to get a jump on things. I am having trouble trying to determine what to use within an ALERT process to communicate with CA-7. The one thing I found said you can't use with an ALERT process. The other ways don't specify. So what format do I use to communicate with CA-7? I would like to update the WLB classes when A STC is started. Another thing I need to do - With CA-Opera I have commands setup which shutdown certain applications. At certain times I interrupt the processing with a delay before I continue on with another commands. Is there an example of this ? Any help would be appreciated. Thank You -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Offloading Reports
Somebody at LRS tells me their product-in-development (expected to be available early next year, on Windoz/Unixes/Linuxes) should be just about what we are looking for -- and able to convert our existing PageCenter inventory of reports. So my boss says Let's wait. Thanks to all who replied. On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:27:18 -0800, Edward E. Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Larry Burch wrote: Is there a product available for offloading sysouts from JES that provides access (e.g., browser-based) to those reports *without* any further MVS involvement? -- and provides admin functions for archiving/retention, jobname+date directory stuff, who-can-see-what authorization, etc. I'm acquainted with a couple of products that write the reports into VSAM or HFS files and provide browser access, but they require the continued MVS involvement that my boss wants to eliminate. (Those products are LRS's PageCenter and MacKinney's JES Report Broker.) Most of the best packages are multi-platform anymore. For example, you can grab output from JES via VPS and route it to a Linux system running whatever it is LRS calls their Unix-based spooler these days. Then access the output via the same web browser interface you would have used to access it straight from z/OS using the same product suite. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes
We often see such corporate exclamations of intention, but is there any organization that keeps track of successes and failures and will make these results public? Those statistics, company names and general environments attempted would be interesting and perhaps useful for arguing against further stupidity (if failures exceeded successes). This goes for IMS to DB2 conversion attempts as well. Larry Altman On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:44:52 -0600, Doc Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've yet to see a mainframe to client-server transition that didn't end in tears, higher costs, lowered service levels, gnashing of teeth, roaming gangs of SysProgs threatening passers by in Hex, large cracks appearing in the Earth's surface and all life in the Universe coming to a crashing halt. But then, that's just me... :D On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:55:17 -0700, Kopischke, David G. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, From SearchDataCenter yesterday: Simon Schuster Inc. plans to save $1 million a year on hardware costs and licensing fees as a result of migrating off its old IBM mainframes. http://searchdatacenter.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid80_gci1 172792,00.html?track=NL-451ad=544960 I'd like to see a follow up to this next fall to see how well they fared. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:53:46 -0500, Richard Tsujimoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doc said: I've yet to see a mainframe to client-server transition that didn't end in tears, higher costs, lowered service levels, gnashing of teeth, roaming gangs of SysProgs threatening passers by in Hex, large cracks appearing in the Earth's surface and all life in the Universe coming to a crashing halt. I assumed you meant, putting a hex on passerbys using HEX...on second thought, never mind 45 61 6E 79 2D 6D 65 61 6E 79 2C 20 63 68 69 6C 69 2D 62 65 61 6E 79 2C 20 74 68 65 20 73 70 69 72 69 74 73 20 61 72 65 20 61 62 6F 75 74 20 74 6F 20 73 70 65 61 6B 21 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes
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TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?
Dear folks; We have a necessity to synchronize our IBM Parallel Sysplex with other platforms, i.e. HP Non Stop, Sun, PSeries, etc. I'm aware that PS does not support NTP. I was thinking if with STP we can achieve this but with the information I have, I think the answer seems to be a big NO. Any suggestion?. How other has addresed this requirement?. TIA, Giovanni -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?
To what level of precision is synchronization required? To a 0.1 / second? To a 0.01 / second? To a 0.001 / second? If the first, or perhaps the second, if all servers sync to NIST in Boulder CO, then they'll all be the same. NTP synchronization amongst all the platforms you cite will effectively be accomplished. If a higher level of precision is required, then that's a different class of problem. In my experience, in general data processing environments, the problem identified is that server 1 says 10:05 am, server 2 says 10:07 am, router 3 says 09:44 am, and the correct time is actually 10:04:45 am. Getting servers all synced to NIST (or whatever your local government's time source might be) solves most problems. Again, if all servers sync to NIST (to the level of accuracy each server supports), the problem might well be solved. Both the Sysplex Timer and the new STP protocol will support synchronizing with the government time source. Brian On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:17:00 -0600, Giovanni Cerquone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear folks; We have a necessity to synchronize our IBM Parallel Sysplex with other platforms, i.e. HP Non Stop, Sun, PSeries, etc. I'm aware that PS does not support NTP. I was thinking if with STP we can achieve this but with the information I have, I think the answer seems to be a big NO. Any suggestion?. How other has addresed this requirement?. TIA, Giovanni -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Migrating Off IBM Mainframes
t h e s p i r i t s a r e a b o u t t o s p e a k ! Are they friendly spirits? Frendly? Just listen! Fan mail from some flounder? - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP?
Run the NTP server on the parallel sysplex and have the other platforms use it as the time source. Jerry Whitteridge Safeway Inc -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giovanni Cerquone Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 3:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: TOD Sync acroos platforms (IBM and non-IBM) - STP? Dear folks; We have a necessity to synchronize our IBM Parallel Sysplex with other platforms, i.e. HP Non Stop, Sun, PSeries, etc. I'm aware that PS does not support NTP. I was thinking if with STP we can achieve this but with the information I have, I think the answer seems to be a big NO. Any suggestion?. How other has addresed this requirement?. TIA, Giovanni -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html MMS safeway.com made the following annotations. -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain information proprietary to Safeway and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Assembler question
Bill, This is the old How does LOAD differ from LOAD ADDRESS? issue - as has already comprehensively been pointed out. You may like to know there is a list/group oriented to Assembler which can be accessed as follows: quote SUBSCRIBING TO ASSEMBLER-LIST: To subscribe to ASSEMBLER-LIST, send an email message addressed to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the body of the message, type: SUBSCRIBE ASSEMBLER-LIST first name last name For example, if I wished to subscribe myself to the list, I would send the message SUBSCRIBE ASSEMBLER-LIST Jean Snow /quote Chris Mason - Original Message - From: Bill Larsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Thursday, 16 March, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Assembler question Dear all (...) L 10,ADR1 MVC ZON,0(10) === (XX) (..) ADR1 DS F === why when i replace (XX) by MVC ZON,ADR1 , i don't have the same value in ZON ??? Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS CONSOLE REXX
In a message dated 3/16/2006 3:55:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: still have to figure out how to stop this message that keeps appearing in SYSLOG ... MPF maybe??? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
HMC Load from CD-ROM , SERVER
Hello, I am trying to use the LOAD from CD-ROM option on the HMC. I do a Single object and then CPC recovery. I click on LOAD from CD-ROM option and click the LPAR . From the LOAD from CDROM or Server Windows shows the HMC CD-ROM and LOAD CDROM options have been grayed out. It is not selectable. Only the FTP Source is available. Has anyone encountered this ? How do i make the HMC CDrom selectable ? Machine is 2086 Thanks. Caleb _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Batch TMP RECFM(VB) Input
IKJEFT1A does return after the first non-zero return code even if the input comes from a data set executed via ex command. Either the SYSTSIN DD * or the PARM= version work for me. Or did I missunderstand you question? Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: UID(0) and concurrent processes
Um, MAXPROCUSER? Yes, MAXPROCUSER limits the number of concurrent processes per user, MAXPROCSYS sets the systemwide limit. Don't increase MAXPROCUSER to an unreasonable value just because one server needs a large nummber of processes. Use the PROCUSERMAX attribute in that userid's OMVS segment. (There are a couple more userid level attributes). Aside form this, I would not easily set a JAVA server TRUSTED and PRIVILEGED. There are only a few servers that *really* need uid=0. Most can be setup to run with non-zero uid. Do they say why this server needs such high credentials? If that server starts child prcesses to server individal user request, and if those processes also run uid=0, the users have a meams to run something with uid=0. Peter Hunkeler CREDIT SUISSE -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
