Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Gil Peleg
Hi Barbara,

It is normal. I remember it being like that since CMDS was available...
After the first SLIP the task in *MASTER* does not end, but stays there in a
WAIT for more SLIP commands.

Gil.


On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yesterday I had occcasion to use the CMDS command extensively. I noticed
 (under 1.8) what I had already seen under 1.6:

 CMDS S,ID=1
 MATCHING COMMANDS EXECUTING:  1
 COMMAND NAME: SET  COMMAND ID:1
 SET SLIP=00
 CLASS: M1 ISSUER: *MASTER*,A=0001 STARTED AT: 2008/062 01.15.22   C
 MATCHING COMMANDS WAITING FOR EXECUTION: 0

 Does anyone else see this? Is it normal that the tcb under which this
 command executed is still around?

 This is the first command out of IEACMD00 in sys1.parmlib, with this order
 of parmlibs:
 SYS1.sysname..PARMLIB   (system-specific stuff)
 SYS1.PARMLIB (sysplex-specific stuff)
 SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB (IBM defaults)
 SYS1.SHASPARM(jes2)

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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Barbara Nitz
Gil,

now that you mention it, I checked the (long) syscmds reference. It even says 
so in the book (doh:-( ).

Note:  Some commands remain active indefinitely, so the system will display 
them whenever CMDS is issued. For example, if any SLIP commands 
have been issued and SLIP traps are in effect, one SLIP command will be 
executing until all traps are deleted. This is also true for many SET 
commands, such as SET SLIP and SET MPF.

Currently one collegue has a logon command attached in master, too, even though 
he is logged in. But only on this one system.

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LE-compliant assembler program with 'instance-storage'.

2008-03-06 Thread Fred van der Windt
I have a question about LE-compliant assembler programs: at our shop we
only write LE-compliant assembler programs.The programs must be able to
run in every environment used in the company: MVS batch, IMS and CICS.
Programs created using  the LE-provided macros (CEEENTRY, CEEDSA, CEEPPA
et al) normally allocate extra space on the LE-stack for temporary
variables. They cannot contain a WSA (Writable Static Area) because that
would make them non-reentrant and makes it impossible to use them in a
CICS transaction.

This poses no problems in most situations but sometimes we would like to
maintain a 'state' in a program that is saved between different calls to
the program within a transaction. This would be similar to COBOL
WORKING-STORAGE variables (as opposed to COBOL LOCAL-STORAGE variables
that behave exactly like the temporary variables on the LE stack in the
assembler programs) that are saved between different calls to the
program under the same transaction instance while different transactions
instances under CICS have there own copy of this storage.

I don't know how to achieve this behaviout in a LE-compliant assembler
module... I looked at PSECTs but I am not sure if this is the solution
to this problem or how to use them in a mixed language environment
(COBOL, PL/I and assembler).  Can anybody give nme a clue how I can
create and manage my 'instance-storage'?

Thanks,

Fred!
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Re: LE-compliant assembler program with 'instance-storage'.

2008-03-06 Thread Andy Robertson
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:57:00 +0100, Fred van der Windt 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This poses no problems in most situations but sometimes we would like to
maintain a 'state' in a program that is saved between different calls to
the program within a transaction. This would be similar to COBOL
WORKING-STORAGE variables (as opposed to COBOL LOCAL-STORAGE 
variables
that behave exactly like the temporary variables on the LE stack in the
assembler programs) that are saved between different calls to the
program under the same transaction instance while different transactions
instances under CICS have there own copy of this storage.

I don't know how to achieve this behaviout in a LE-compliant assembler
module...


Why not simply have your LE compliant assembler module call a COBOL 
subprogram that saves the data in its WORKING-STORAGE  Static linkage.  
The data in the WORKING-SToraGE should persist for the life of the Enclave.

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Re: Is PSATOLD always zero when in SRB mode?

2008-03-06 Thread Peter Relson
The answer is yes.

But you might want to ask the converse question:
If PSATOLD is zero, are you in SRB mode?
The answer is not always.

There is a small case in z/OS that we call pseudo-SRB mode where a task
was running (had PSATOLD non-zero) and the system zeroes PSATOLD and
continues for a while. This can happen in memory termination situations,
for example.

It is not a state that your program should see.

PSATOLD = 0 works for all practical purposes.

Peter Relson
z/OS Core Technology Design

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Re: SMF program IFASMFDP cannot read DSNTYPE=LARGE dataset with size CYL 10152

2008-03-06 Thread Chase, John
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tommy Tsui
 
 sorry, I can't find the APAR II4094 on IBM web site

It's missing a digit -- try II14094.

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Re: GRS RESMIL SETTING

2008-03-06 Thread Scott Fagen
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:45:02 -0800, Walter Marguccio
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Scott,

sorry for being persintent on this, but what would you then recommend for
RESMIL
on a basic sysplex with 3 LPARs :

a) 'hot potato' RESMIL=OFF (fast RSA on the ring, but CPU overhead)

b) RESMIL=0 on one LPAR only (which one? The one with more resources?)

c) RESMIL=0 on all LPARs

I'd be glad if you could make a comment on this. Thanks in advance.

Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
Munich - Germany

Without knowing a whole lot more about your system, I really can't make a
'recommendation'.  What I can do is give you several principles that might help
you make a decision:

1) There is just a whole lot of important stuff in the system that relies on GRS
working quickly (Catalog, Allocation, Open, Close, etc. all of which are the
building blocks for getting user work done).
2) The longer you make important stuff wait, the more important stuff backs up
behind it.
3) The longer your things wait, the more opportunity there is to create
contention between them.
4) Response and or elapsed time are probably meaningful measurements for you.
5) Elongating and exacerbating 1, 2, and 3 negatively impact 4

So, if you accept those principles, then one would say that you should Render
unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s, that is, give GRS as much
horsepower as you can afford to.

It's clear that CPU utilization is a function of the 'total RESMIL' for the
complex
(since altering one impacts them all), so I'd spend a bit of time playing with
different values, plotting total RESMIL vs. total (well, really, XCF+GRS) CPU to
see how much you are willing to 'render'.

Something like:
Total RESMIL   CPU
OFF OFF OFF c1
OFF OFF 0   c2
OFF 0   0   c3
0   c4
1   c5
2   c6
etc.

Scott Fagen
Enterprise Systems Management

   

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Re: LE-compliant assembler program with 'instance-storage'.

2008-03-06 Thread Fred van der Windt
 Why not use LE heap storage? Do a call to CEECRHP to create a 
 heap, then call CEEGTST to allocate an element in the heap. 
 Save the address of the element in one of the two LE-provided 
 user fields (call CEE3USR). This heap storage is accessible 
 by all programs in the run unit, and persists across subroutine calls.

I know about CEE3USR but never really understood how one could safely
use that field. After all, if I can come up with the idea to store my
anchor in that field somebody else might do it too. And then one of us
is in trouble. Probably both of us...

Is there a 'best practice' for the use of this field...? It would be a
convenient place to anchor an application-owned tree of control blocks
if it wasn't for the risks described above...

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I was waiting for that 8-)

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Re: LE-compliant assembler program with 'instance-storage'.

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Comstock

Fred van der Windt wrote:

I have a question about LE-compliant assembler programs: at our shop we
only write LE-compliant assembler programs.The programs must be able to
run in every environment used in the company: MVS batch, IMS and CICS.
Programs created using  the LE-provided macros (CEEENTRY, CEEDSA, CEEPPA
et al) normally allocate extra space on the LE-stack for temporary
variables. They cannot contain a WSA (Writable Static Area) because that
would make them non-reentrant and makes it impossible to use them in a
CICS transaction.

This poses no problems in most situations but sometimes we would like to
maintain a 'state' in a program that is saved between different calls to
the program within a transaction. This would be similar to COBOL
WORKING-STORAGE variables (as opposed to COBOL LOCAL-STORAGE variables
that behave exactly like the temporary variables on the LE stack in the
assembler programs) that are saved between different calls to the
program under the same transaction instance while different transactions
instances under CICS have there own copy of this storage.

I don't know how to achieve this behaviout in a LE-compliant assembler
module... I looked at PSECTs but I am not sure if this is the solution
to this problem or how to use them in a mixed language environment
(COBOL, PL/I and assembler).  Can anybody give nme a clue how I can
create and manage my 'instance-storage'?

Thanks,

Fred!


Why not use LE heap storage? Do a call to CEECRHP to
create a heap, then call CEEGTST to allocate an element
in the heap. Save the address of the element in one of
the two LE-provided user fields (call CEE3USR). This
heap storage is accessible by all programs in the run
unit, and persists across subroutine calls.

The related services are avaialable to all your
high level and LE-compliant Assembler programs.

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IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED

2008-03-06 Thread HELIO

Hi

I am running a job with the utility ADRDSSU to make a dump of a data set 
and after deletes it, the dump are running successfully, but when will 
delete the data set I am getting a message


IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040942D1)

Already looked in the manual and not found this diagnostic information, 
the data set is administered by SMS.

Who knows with me solve this problem.

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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:20:50 -0600, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:51:11 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I had occcasion to use the CMDS command extensively. I noticed
(under 1.8) what I had already seen under 1.6:

CMDS S,ID=1
MATCHING COMMANDS EXECUTING:  1
COMMAND NAME: SET  COMMAND ID:1
SET SLIP=00
CLASS: M1 ISSUER: *MASTER*,A=0001 STARTED AT: 2008/062 01.15.22   C
MATCHING COMMANDS WAITING FOR EXECUTION: 0

Does anyone else see this? Is it normal that the tcb under which this
command executed is still around?

This is the first command out of IEACMD00 in sys1.parmlib, with this order
of parmlibs:

snip


I recall seeing it in the past but I don't see it now on any systems in one
of my sysplexes.  My IEACMD00 is the default distributed in hlq.IBM.PARMLIB.

COM='CHNGDUMP SET,SDUMP=(LSQA,TRT,XESDATA),ADD'
COM='SET SLIP=00'
COM='SET DAE=00'
COM='START LLA,SUB=MSTR'
COM='START BLSJPRMI,SUB=MSTR'
COM='START IFGEDI,SUB=MSTR'

However, in another sysplex where IEACMD00 is coming from a local
parmlib and SET SLIP=00 is the first command, I do see it there.

Oh... this was mostly on 1.8 systems but there is still one 1.6 system
floating around and 1.9 test sysplex systems.  All seemed to behave
the same way I described above.


Ignore what I wrote above.  It's there, the ID just isn't 1.  

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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:51:11 +0100, Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Yesterday I had occcasion to use the CMDS command extensively. I noticed
(under 1.8) what I had already seen under 1.6:

CMDS S,ID=1
MATCHING COMMANDS EXECUTING:  1
COMMAND NAME: SET  COMMAND ID:1
SET SLIP=00
CLASS: M1 ISSUER: *MASTER*,A=0001 STARTED AT: 2008/062 01.15.22   C
MATCHING COMMANDS WAITING FOR EXECUTION: 0

Does anyone else see this? Is it normal that the tcb under which this
command executed is still around?

This is the first command out of IEACMD00 in sys1.parmlib, with this order
of parmlibs:
SYS1.sysname..PARMLIB   (system-specific stuff)
SYS1.PARMLIB (sysplex-specific stuff)
SYS1.IBM.PARMLIB (IBM defaults)
SYS1.SHASPARM(jes2)



I recall seeing it in the past but I don't see it now on any systems in one
of my sysplexes.  My IEACMD00 is the default distributed in hlq.IBM.PARMLIB.

COM='CHNGDUMP SET,SDUMP=(LSQA,TRT,XESDATA),ADD'
COM='SET SLIP=00'  
COM='SET DAE=00'   
COM='START LLA,SUB=MSTR'   
COM='START BLSJPRMI,SUB=MSTR'  
COM='START IFGEDI,SUB=MSTR'

However, in another sysplex where IEACMD00 is coming from a local
parmlib and SET SLIP=00 is the first command, I do see it there.

Oh... this was mostly on 1.8 systems but there is still one 1.6 system
floating around and 1.9 test sysplex systems.  All seemed to behave
the same way I described above.   

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Re: How to obtain CF Level Information programmatically

2008-03-06 Thread Bill Neiman
Chuck,

 In addition to IXCQUERY, which will give you the CFRM perspective of a 
CF, you can use IXLMG to retrieve hardware-type information.  See the 
IXLYAMDCF DSECT in IXLYAMDA.

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Classes in Europe (was: Re: LE-compliant assembler program with 'instance-storage'.)

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Comstock

Fred van der Windt writes:

I know about CEE3USR but never really understood how one could safely
use that field. After all, if I can come up with the idea to store my
anchor in that field somebody else might do it too. And then one of us
is in trouble. Probably both of us...

Is there a 'best practice' for the use of this field...? It would be a
convenient place to anchor an application-owned tree of control blocks
if it wasn't for the risks described above...

Well, it has to be agreed upon in the design: who owns
field-1 or field-2; Also note that one of the fields
could point to an array of pointers to storage, each
belonging to specific programs. In any case, agreement
in design is paramount. Realize that the user fields are
per enclave, not global among all LE users in the system:
each enclave gets a pair of user fields to share among its
mainline and subroutines.

---

And also:

We are well aware of LE services: we use them a lot in COBOL and
Assembler programs. We would be interested in other classes but are
stationed in the Netherlands and could never fill a classroom. A
collegue of mine wants to follow some Assembler courses but IBM in the
Netherlands keeps cancelling them because there just isn't enough
interest in these courses... So if you ever do any in this part of the
world: I've got one or two customers for you...

I know you're in the Netherlands. No problem. We've
taught our LE class in Denmark and Sweden in the
past. We would love to come teach in Holland.

We don't need large enrollment numbers; we charge
by the class day and include expenses. Let's take
this discussion off-list and see what we can put
together.

---

Martin also writes:

Steve,

looks like I need that class too.



Again, let's take this off-list; but anyone else
in Europe on the list interested in exploring this,
please drop me a line. We might easily have enough
to justify several classes in various cities.


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Re: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED

2008-03-06 Thread McKown, John
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HELIO
 Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2008 8:24 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED
 
 
 Hi
 
 I am running a job with the utility ADRDSSU to make a dump of 
 a data set 
 and after deletes it, the dump are running successfully, but 
 when will 
 delete the data set I am getting a message
 
 IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040942D1)
 
 Already looked in the manual and not found this diagnostic 
 information, 
 the data set is administered by SMS.
 Who knows with me solve this problem.
 
 Thanks.

In the manual z/OS: DFSMSdfp Diagnosis, section 6.15 on DADSM SCRATCH
Return and Diagnostic Codes. x'040942d1' breaks down as byte 0==4, byte
1==9, byte 2==VVDS1, byte 3=VVDS2. The 0409 says VVDS detected and
error. 

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2R160/6.15


Looking at x'42d1' in section 17.9.5.16, says Catalog error while
deleting dataset.

ref:
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/DGT2R160/17.9
.5.16

Do you see any other error messages? Perhaps the dataset was somehow on
the volume but either uncatalogued or catalogued in the wrong catalog?
Have you tried printing the VVDS for this volume? Is there a record for
this dataset in the VVDS? If so, what catalog is in the VVDS record? Is
it the correct catalog?

If you want to scratch the dataset, then I'd use IDCAMS and either the
DELETE NVR (for nonVSAM) or DELETE VVR (for VSAM) command.

example type=NVR
//JS010EXEC  PGM=IDCAMS
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*
//OTL002   DD  DISP=OLD,UNIT=SYSALLDA,VOL=SER=OTL002
//SYSINDD  *
 DELETE -
( -
  ORATL.HERSCH -
) -
NVR -
FILE(OTL002)
/*
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Re: GRS RESMIL SETTING

2008-03-06 Thread Walter Marguccio
- Original Message 
From: Scott Fagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 6 March, 2008 2:42:48 PM

 Without knowing a whole lot more about your system, I really can't make a
 'recommendation'.  What I can do is give you several principles that might 
 help
 you make a decision:

- Three z/OS 1.7 LPARs in basic sysplex, classic PROD,DEVELOP,SANDBOX scenario. 
- Every LPAR has 4 pathin/pathout to all other 2 LPARs. All traffic flows on 
two physical
  ESCON CNC/CTC pair.
- GRS on the PROD has an average delay of 7-8%. On the DEVELOP goes beyond 
15-20%
- PROD has 2 CPs assigned, weight 70. DEVELOP has 1 CP, weight 20
- z890-230, 26 MSUs

 so I'd spend a bit of time playing with different values, plotting total 
 RESMIL vs. 
 total (well, really, XCF+GRS) CPU to see how much you are willing to 'render'.

 Something like:
 Total RESMIL   CPU
 OFF OFF OFF c1
 OFF OFF 0   c2
 OFF 0   0   c3
 0   c4
 1   c5
 2   c6
 etc.


Looks a good starting point to me. Thanks very much! 

Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
Munich - Germany




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Re: FICON CTC

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Pace
I've succeeded in getting the IO devices online on each z/OS system.  But
when I IPL with GRS turned on I get
ISG046E CTC 4C00 DISABLED DUE TO HARDWARE ERROR  CODE=05
On 1 system and
ISG046E CTC 3C00 DISABLED DUE TO HARDWARE ERROR  CODE=05
on the other.

I've looked at II14241 and verified that the CHPIDs say Initialization
complete.

Is there some way to verify that each end is REALLY talking to each other,
rather than just rely on the fact that the device(s) are online?

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Re: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:24:24 -0300, HELIO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi

I am running a job with the utility ADRDSSU to make a dump of a data set
and after deletes it, the dump are running successfully, but when will
delete the data set I am getting a message

IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040942D1)

Already looked in the manual and not found this diagnostic information,
the data set is administered by SMS.
Who knows with me solve this problem.



17.9.5.16 VTOC/Data Set Services (VDSS) Reason Codes

17105 (X'42D1')#9474; Catalog error while deleting data set.  

Could be any number of reasons why.  Do you have authority?  What
happens if you try to delete the data set via ISPF or IDCAMS?  Are
there any other error messages in the joblog or syslog?

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[Fwd: IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED]

2008-03-06 Thread HELIO

Mark Zelden,

I also am getting a message:

*0ADR414E* DYNA (001) - (01), PD02.OFF1.DIA0503 DATE SET ON VOLUME 
PR904B NOT SCRATCHED, 2-08,02
0ADR454I (001)-DTDSC (01), THE FOLLOWING DATE SETS WERE PROCESSED 
SUCCESSFULLY

0 PD02.OFF1.DIA0503



Hi

I am running a job with the utility ADRDSSU to make a dump of a data 
set and after deletes it, the dump are running successfully, but when 
will delete the data set I am getting a message


IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040942D1)

Already looked in the manual and not found this diagnostic 
information, the data set is administered by SMS.

Who knows with me solve this problem.

Thanks.




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I am running a job with the utility ADRDSSU to make a dump of a data set 
and after deletes it, the dump are running successfully, but when will 
delete the data set I am getting a message


IEC614I SCRATCH FAILED - RC 008, DIAGNOSTIC INFORMATION IS (040942D1)

Already looked in the manual and not found this diagnostic information, 
the data set is administered by SMS.

Who knows with me solve this problem.

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Re: FICON CTC

2008-03-06 Thread Jimmy Wagner
Marc,

I had a very interesting experience building our GRS ring. One point I have not 
seen mentioned is that for GRS the CTC's must be a device type of BCTC. If 
you would like to discus offline, just email me direct.

Jimmy

 snip
I've succeeded in getting the IO devices online on each z/OS system.  But
when I IPL with GRS turned on I get
ISG046E CTC 4C00 DISABLED DUE TO HARDWARE ERROR  CODE=05
On 1 system and
ISG046E CTC 3C00 DISABLED DUE TO HARDWARE ERROR  CODE=05
on the other.

I've looked at II14241 and verified that the CHPIDs say Initialization
complete.

Is there some way to verify that each end is REALLY talking to each other,
rather than just rely on the fact that the device(s) are online?

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Re: FICON CTC

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Pace
As I understand it, that was true for ESCON CTC, I'm using FICON CTC, or
device type of FCTC.  It is supposed to be supported.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Jimmy Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Marc,

 I had a very interesting experience building our GRS ring. One point I
 have not
 seen mentioned is that for GRS the CTC's must be a device type of BCTC. If
 you would like to discus offline, just email me direct.

 Jimmy


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Re: Production Mainframe Issue - Urgent

2008-03-06 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Jacky Bright wrote:

1) Following messages in syslog for around 3-4 min.

EMS0518E MODULE EMSCLOGC; ERROR DURING LOGON ERROR CODE = X01 LU 
=
TCP03025.
EMS0430E EMSCSYND FAILED, RC =
99.
EMS0518E MODULE EMSCLOGC; ERROR DURING LOGON ERROR CODE = X02 LU 
=
TCP03025.
EMS0518E MODULE EMSCLOGC; ERROR DURING LOGON ERROR CODE = X01 LU 
=
TCP03027.
EMS0430E EMSCSYND FAILED, RC =
99.

Thats Netview Access Services and somebody is messing around with invalid 
logons. Stop NV/AS and restart it. Or issue TERMQ to prevent new sessions 
signon to Netview Access Services.

HTH!

Groete / Greetings
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Production Mainframe Issue - Urgent

2008-03-06 Thread Jacky Bright
Hi,

Today my team observed unusual thing.

PSG group started getting calls that all mainframe apps are not working.

On analysing the logs there were 2 - 3 issues

1) Following messages in syslog for around 3-4 min.

EMS0518E MODULE EMSCLOGC; ERROR DURING LOGON ERROR CODE = X01 LU =
TCP03025.
EMS0430E EMSCSYND FAILED, RC =
99.
EMS0518E MODULE EMSCLOGC; ERROR DURING LOGON ERROR CODE = X02 LU =
TCP03025.
EMS0518E MODULE EMSCLOGC; ERROR DURING LOGON ERROR CODE = X01 LU =
TCP03027.
EMS0430E EMSCSYND FAILED, RC =
99.


2) *IEE806A COMMANDS EXCEED LIMIT IN COMMAND CLASS M3

All online Apps are CICS based.

Any idea about these errors ?  Can this cause mainframe to stall for some
moment 

JAcky

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Re: Hanging command

2008-03-06 Thread Gil Peleg
Just found the APAR I was quoting earlier... APAR II13201.
It doesn't explain much, but it does acknowledge what CMDS shows.

Gil.

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Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

2008-03-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
I have gone through several iterations and just cannot see the forest for the 
trees.

I need to sort hex data in ISPF and batch.  I have tried a couple of variations 
but the x'A' - x'F' always go to the top of the sorted list.  I really would 
like 0-9, x'A' - x'F'

I have not found on the ISPF sort command a hex option for sorting.  And I am 
not sure what control cards I can use in batch sort to make it happen.

Any one willing to point me in the right direction?  If not, I will write a 
sort process in REXX.  

Lizette

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Re: Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

2008-03-06 Thread Field, Alan C.
Lizette

I use these SORT control statements to achieve what you want.

* THIS CAUSES NUMBERS TO COLLATE BEFORE UPPERCASE LETTERS
* GREAT FOR GETTING HEX NUMBERS IN CORRECT ORDER 0-9A-F
 ALTSEQ CODE=(F0B0,F1B1,F2B2,F3B3,F4B4,F5B5,F6B6,F7B7,F8B8,F9B9)
 SORT FIELDS=(1,4,AQ,A),SIZE=E2000

Alan

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Subject: Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

I have gone through several iterations and just cannot see the forest
for the trees.

I need to sort hex data in ISPF and batch.  I have tried a couple of
variations but the x'A' - x'F' always go to the top of the sorted list.
I really would like 0-9, x'A' - x'F'

I have not found on the ISPF sort command a hex option for sorting.  And
I am not sure what control cards I can use in batch sort to make it
happen.

Any one willing to point me in the right direction?  If not, I will
write a sort process in REXX.  

Lizette

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Re: Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

2008-03-06 Thread Imbriale, Donald
In ISPF:

If you have National Language Support, the order in which your data

will be collated could depend on the status of your HEX mode.

 

If your HEX mode status is ON, your data will be ordered according to
its
hexadecimal representation.

 

If your HEX mode status is OFF, you are a National Language Support

user and your installation has defined a special collating sequence

table, your data will be ordered according to the sequence specified

in the collating sequence table.

 


Don Imbriale


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Subject: Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

I have gone through several iterations and just cannot see the forest
for the trees.

I need to sort hex data in ISPF and batch.  I have tried a couple of
variations but the x'A' - x'F' always go to the top of the sorted list.
I really would like 0-9, x'A' - x'F'

I have not found on the ISPF sort command a hex option for sorting.  And
I am not sure what control cards I can use in batch sort to make it
happen.

Any one willing to point me in the right direction?  If not, I will
write a sort process in REXX.  




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Re: VTAM NetView Configuration

2008-03-06 Thread Peters, Gary A.
Thanks to all who responded on this issue.  I think we'll do a little 
experimenting on our test LPAR and see what works best for us - VTAM first or 
NetView first.

Gary Peters
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Subject: VTAM NetView Configuration

VTAM/Netview Gurus:

Can anyone explain why we're getting the following messages when we start
VTAM and how we might be able to eliminate them?  I suspect it has
something to do with the interaction between VTAM and NetView, but I'm
stumped so far.

IST1205I MANAGEMENT SERVICES TRANSPORT UNAVAILABLE
IST1207I NETWORK MANAGEMENT IS INACTIVE

We start VTAM before NetView.  Is that backwards?  Won't NetView complain
if VTAM isn't up?

TIA for your help.

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Re: Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

2008-03-06 Thread Lizette Koehler
Thanks Don and Alan, that did the trick.

Lizette

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Lizette

I use these SORT control statements to achieve what you want.

* THIS CAUSES NUMBERS TO COLLATE BEFORE UPPERCASE LETTERS
* GREAT FOR GETTING HEX NUMBERS IN CORRECT ORDER 0-9A-F
 ALTSEQ CODE=(F0B0,F1B1,F2B2,F3B3,F4B4,F5B5,F6B6,F7B7,F8B8,F9B9)
 SORT FIELDS=(1,4,AQ,A),SIZE=E2000

Alan

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Subject: Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

I have gone through several iterations and just cannot see the forest
for the trees.

I need to sort hex data in ISPF and batch.  I have tried a couple of
variations but the x'A' - x'F' always go to the top of the sorted list.
I really would like 0-9, x'A' - x'F'

I have not found on the ISPF sort command a hex option for sorting.  And
I am not sure what control cards I can use in batch sort to make it
happen.

Any one willing to point me in the right direction?  If not, I will
write a sort process in REXX.  

Lizette

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Re: Sorting Hex Data - ISPF or Batch

2008-03-06 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:31:11 -0500 Lizette Koehler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:I have gone through several iterations and just cannot see the forest for the 
trees.

:I need to sort hex data in ISPF and batch.  I have tried a couple of 
variations but the x'A' - x'F' always go to the top of the sorted list.  I 
really would like 0-9, x'A' - x'F'

:I have not found on the ISPF sort command a hex option for sorting.  And I am 
not sure what control cards I can use in batch sort to make it happen.

:Any one willing to point me in the right direction?  If not, I will write a 
sort process in REXX.  

A simple approach for ISPF is to add a non-displayed column which has the
binary value and sort on it.

For batch the better options have already been mentioned.

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Re: FICON CTC

2008-03-06 Thread R.S.

Mark Pace wrote:

As I understand it, that was true for ESCON CTC, I'm using FICON CTC, or
device type of FCTC.  It is supposed to be supported.


AFAIK not. You cannot make GRS ring over FCTC links.
Note: you can make GRS ring over XCF links which can be defined over 
FCTC. However XCF means sysplex (at least basic).


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Re: dataset separation within a Storage Group

2008-03-06 Thread Steve Pryor
On Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:04:11 +0100, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Ted MacNEIL wrote:
 Applications  want  3 datasets  A.B.**   to always be allocated on
different packs than 3 datasets  A.C.**


 Why?
 In an SMS environment, data management is supposed to be taken away from
applications.

 As long as the data is responsive, protected, backed up, and meets
business needs, they should not be involved.
 (Unless, of course, there are politics)

There is a method in SMS to separate the datasets. However
- it does work on CU basis, not on volume basis (which consistent with
assumptions - to isolate failures)
- it isn't convenient (my opinion, and other SMS admins I know)
- it is rarely in use (see above).

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As Radoslaw noted, the 'dataset separation profile' can do this for
SMS-managed datasets but as also noted, it's CU-level, not well known, and
somewhat cumbersome to use. Our Allocation Control Center (ACC) product can
implement this sort of thing on the volume level via simple policy rules for
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Re: SDSF-ISFPARM

2008-03-06 Thread Ron Wells
thanks Kirkwhat I was looking for...

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Re: Any RMM Training available?

2008-03-06 Thread John Benik
If you find any training we would also be interested.

John Benik

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-06 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:39:23 +0100, Barbara Nitz nitz-
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...
...I think that SDSF Operations and Customization is the *only* SDSF 
book that still gets updated and is still around (plus was mentioned in 
other posts with a different suffix) so that I didn't realize that 'SDSF 
User Manual' was actually the name of a book way back when.
...

Off-topic (or at least off-thread) and just idle curiosity:

The SDSF manual (old or new title) seems sort of odd by IBM 
standards.  To me if feels a lot like an old PDOM (whatever that
stood for - Program Description and Operations Manual, maybe?).

Did SDSF start out life as an FDP?

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-06 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 15:59:52 -0600, Patrick O'Keefe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Did SDSF start out life as an FDP?


Yes.

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Re: SDSF User Manual

2008-03-06 Thread Bob Rutledge

Patrick O'Keefe wrote:


Did SDSF start out life as an FDP?


It was originally SPOOL Display and Search Facility (SDSF), product number 
5798-DGN, developed by Carl Porter, I think an SE in Boulder.  I first met SDSF 
'round abouts 1980.


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Re: Catch-22 question on SMP/E receive fromnts command

2008-03-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:07:34 -0600, Pommier, Rex R. wrote:

So bottom line, I followed IBM documentation and that was at least a
contributor to my RECEIVE problem.  I don't know if you (Gil) want to
put any of this in the PMR that you have open with IBM or not.

  APAR Identifier .. IO08492  Last Changed  08/03/06
  SEVERE ERROR MESSAGE GIM69209S IS NOT DISPLAYED WHEN THE
  SMP/E COMMAND RECEIVE FROMNTS IS ISSUED.
 
  Symptom .. MS MSGGIM69209S  Status ... CLOSED  PER
  Severity ... 4  Date Closed . 08/03/06
  Component .. 566894901  Duplicate of 
  Reported Release . G00  Fixed Release  999
  Component Name 5668 SMP/E   Special Notice
  Current Target Date ..08/06/25  Flags
  SCP ...
  Platform 
 
  Status Detail: PACKAGING - Solution is being packaged for
 shipment.
  ...
  PROBLEM CONCLUSION:
  Module GIMMPRCO has been updated so that RECEIVE FROMNTS ends
  with a return code of zero when a SHA-1 hash value can not be
  generated and message MSGGIM23411I is issued.
  G00Y
  GIMJVLVL
  GIMLEVEL
  GIMMPRCO

Great response for a SEV4.  Thanks, SMP/E!

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upgrading z?OS 1.4 to 1.8 or 1.9

2008-03-06 Thread Bu Dante
We run on z/OS 1.4. I know recommended upgrade is to 1.7 (N+3). Our 
system is simple and nothing is shared. There are many 3rd party products 
running on 1.4 but up to date. Since 1.7 support will run out in September this 
year, we would like to upgrade now to 1.8 or 1.9 if there are no major issues. 
Has anybody done this and what are some of the problems encountered and is 
fallback possible?

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Beta TEST announcement of Version 3 of SyzAUTO

2008-03-06 Thread Brian Westerman
I apologize if you have already received the email on this, but Syzygy is
announcing our BETA testing of the next version of SyzAUTO.

I'll past the email below for those that did not receive it, and I'm sorry
if the lines wrap:

***Beginning of email paste

Dear Syzygy software client,

Syzygy is proud to announce that a new BETA version of SyzAUTO, version 3
will soon be available.  As a result of a large number of customer requests,
an entirely new version of the industry's least expensive feature-rich
System Command and JOB Automation product, SyzAUTO, will soon be ready to
BETA test.  

We would like to offer you an invitation to participate in the upcoming beta
test of SyzAUTO.  This beta is limited to 150 sites, so if you are
interested and have the time to spare, please send a return email or contact
your site administrator so that we can add you to our beta testing team.

Many new features are being designed into the new version of SyzAUTO.  Some
of the new facilities in SyzAUTO have been added to give SyzAUTO some of the
same functionality that already exists in the SyzCmdZ system command
scripting product and the SyzSPOOL Jes output offload product.  Many clients
that license one or more of the Syzygy suite of products (SyzSPOOL, SyzCmdZ
and SyzAUTO), have requested that we make some of the features of those
products available to them internally from other products in the SYZ-suite,
and SyzAUTO is the first of the three SYZ-suite products to reflect those
changes.  The other products of the SYZ-suite will be entering Beta
testing shortly.  There are several interconnect capabilities that are being
designed for the SYZ-suite products as well, but they are not listed below.

This new version proposes to add the following new features over the current
V2.00.f version of the SyzAUTO product:

Internal commands are now supported with user defined command prefix (2
characters). 
New Job Scheduling capabilities, allows for tracking and final disposition
(condition codes) of JOBs submitted for execution by SyzAUTO.
Allow capability to EMAIL the results (Condition codes and MAX Condition
Code) of JOBs submitted by SyzAUTO. 
EMAIL JOB or task failure information where applicable. 
System startup and overrides can be specified in PARMLIB or another dataset. 
New ++STATUS Internal Command, allows user to display the status of the
product on the console. 
New ++STOP Internal Command, allows internal shutdown of product. 
New ++RESET Internal Command, allows the timer to be reset in case of
changes to commands PDS, (restart no longer necessary).
New ++PREFIX Internal Command, allows user customization of the default (++)
prefix. 
New ability to set prefix and submit multiple JOBs or commands at startup
along with the current initial command member. 
New ++SUBMIT Internal command to submit a JOB for execution without being
required to know the SyzAUTO jobstep (no more F A,JOBNAME required). 
New ++CMD Internal Command to execute another command member (or timed
member) without being required to know the SyzAUTO jobstep. 
New ++IF Internal commands allows for decision logic on whether a line is to
be executed: 
++IFSTARTED ; will only execute command following the ; if the
specified task  is currently in execution 
++IFSTOPPED ; will only execute command following the ; if the
specified task  is NOT running 
++IFLPAR ; will only execute command following the ; if 
SyzAUTO
is executing on a certain LPAR (or System ID) 
New ++LPAR Internal command, allows command to be sent to another LPAR in
the sysplex 
New ++REPLY Internal Command, preforms reply to any outstanding WTOR without
knowing the REPLYID in advance, only the MSGID or text (or portion of) the
message 
New ++WTO Internal command to issue message to the console or syslog 
New ++WTOH Internal command to issue a HIGHLIGHTED message to the console or
syslog. 
New USER operations manual in HTML and PDF format. 
Many more features are also under development including a ISPF/PDF based
interface to SyzAUTO. 

The BETA version manual is not yet available, but to download information on
the current gold version of SyzAUTO (2.0.f), please link to:
http://syzygyinc.net/Documents/SYZAUTO%20Product%20Manual%20V2-0-f.pdf

If you would like to participate in the Beta test project for this new 3.0b
version, please contact your project coordinator or reply back to this
email.  You must be registered with the SyzAUTO beta program by March 30,
2008 to participate. 

The current gold version of the SyzAUTO product (version z-2.00.f) will
continue to be fully supported until January 18, 2009 as previously announced.  

Regards,

Tony Alphonsio
Beta Testing Coordinator
Syzygy Incorporated


**End of email paste;

If you have any questions or would like to participate, you can contact me
offline or send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Brian Westerman


Re: z/OS UnixSS, java, DB2, and hat in hand

2008-03-06 Thread Roland Schiradin
what kind of language did you code your sproc?

Roland


Sometimes I just arrive hat in hand,

As I belong to the OpenEdition and IBM_Main groups I am starting here. I
will guess that I probably will be referred to the DB2 group list for
all, or at least part of this? My clear hope is to find someone who has
successfully negotiated a similar request as my own.


We want to implement a JAVA program call, a method in a class(?),
from/as a stored procedure in DB2. The original request is to call
DoubleMetaphone from DB2.


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Re: Is PSATOLD always zero when in SRB mode?

2008-03-06 Thread Support, DUNNIT SYSTEMS LTD.
Eyes wide shut. Thanks.

Jerry

On Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:44:47 -0500, Peter Relson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
There is a small case in z/OS that we call pseudo-SRB mode where a task
was running (had PSATOLD non-zero) and the system zeroes PSATOLD and
continues for a while. This can happen in memory termination situations,
for example.

It is not a state that your program should see.

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Re: IBM Tivoli Monitoring (ITM for short)

2008-03-06 Thread Stephen Hall
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Joel C. Ewing wrote:
 
/snip
 
I remember with wistful nostalgia Omegamon MVS back in the days when it was a 
manageable-sized product, before it became so complex that it
required 7 x 70 VSAM datasets, umpteen dozen address spaces, and a whole 
platoon of server platforms to run.  It's as if someone out there thinks
System Programmer time and server platforms are free, or that our end goal is 
to configure and run this complex structure rather than just use
it an incidental tool to measure a system that is doing real work.  The level 
of complexity of these products has gotten to the point that I almost prefer 
installing a new release of z/OS to updating Omegamon products.
 
/end snip
 
Couldn't agree more. On one of our LPARS we have 28 Omegamon ASIDs (we have a 
lot of IMS subsystems on that LPAR). We have the TEP up and running on a 
monitor PC which is not directly attached to out LAN so we can get away with 
this. there is a separate group who manages the non-mainframe agents  servers 
etc. We actually live  Die by our modified version of the LPAR controls 
workspace (can't quite remember the name as I am not on site). It gives us the 
LPAR weighting / activity graph, as well as a speedo for CEC utilization  an 
Hour long historical graph/trend). whenever we get performance issues, it's 
where we look first (as well as some other groups). We then dive into the 3270 
products to get to the real data. However, the RMF PM  java tool does provide 
some of this, and I would expect that little tool to improve with new versions 
of z/OS.
 
We have 12 LPARS all running mixed combinations of the Omegamon Tools, and I 
have found that how you configure your RTES can play a big part in the effort 
that you have to put into upgrades  maintenance. I am happy to share how we do 
it off list if anyone is interested.
 
There was talk of  breaking the products up into the GUI  Omegamon lite 
products sets, This would remove the old Omegamon II CUA layer, leaving the 
classic products for those who want only the 3270 interface  the GUI for 
those that want that feature. I think that this would be a really good thing to 
do, providing that there was a classic product for every agent on z/OS, and 
you were still able to get LPAR  Sysplex data on 3270.
 
I have to own up to having worked previously for Candle, so I want to see the 
product continue and be relevant, even though I was made redundant shortly 
before the IBM takeover.
 
Regards, 
- 

Stephen Hall   
Team Leader - Host Systems
Technology Services - Infrastructure
INSURANCE AUSTRALIA GROUP (IAG)

 


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