Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Are there still problems known or is it generally considered safe to go to VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)? We run 1.10, going to 1.11 soon. IPL your test system / sysplex with these options in your diag: Traps Name( IeaInitArSrb /* Initialize ARs for SRBs*/ IeaInitRegsTask /* Initialize GPRs for TCBs */ IgvInitCpool /* Initialize CPOOL GET elements */ IgvInitGetmain/* Initialize GETMAINed storage */ IgvInitFreemain /* Initialize FREEMAINed storage */ IarSt64InitGet/* Initialize gotten 64-bit stg. */ IarCp64InitGet/* Initialize gotten 64-bit cells */ ) In addition, copy igvdgnpp from samplib (?) to your proclib and start that stc. All of this will basically 'pollute' everything not expressly initialized with a pattern of all Foxes or x'4F'. Last time I tried this, we were hit by quite a few problems. On the other hand, if your system comes up and runs without any abend0cx, you can safely turn on using the new rules. The above diag traps thoroughly test all code and would simulate errors from the improved rules. We ran into a problem with Connect Direct at the 4.6 release level. The problem is fixed in Connect Direct 4.7 and 4.8. Yes, we did too using the above traps. My colleague reported it to Sterling, and got one fix named T040140. Now that IBM owns Sterling, it should be a lot easier to get anything fixed that pops up using 'dirty getmain'. So far I have found that SHCDMUF (I think this is CA/DATACOM DB) needs LCCA and/or PCCA in 24bit, CA/OPERA doesn't like REUSASID(YES), and CA/PMO has problems with USEZOSV19RULES(NO). I am also still tracking down one or two users of key 8 CSA. Yes, CA are certainly BIG offenders in this game. Actually, we just ran into a key8 CSA thing with datacom - you cannot change the XCF MUF group name without it. Even after IPL they do not come up. One product that doesn't handle the improved VSM rules is BETA91 and their BSA. Beta at one point refused to fix the bugs because they said we were using 'unsupported options'. Which was patently false, as the problem occured in production, where we certainly won't use the new rules until the *test* sysplex runs cleanly. So expect quite a bit of resistance (both from the vendors and from your colleagues responsible for a buggy product) when you report a bug caused by the diag traps. Best regards, Barbara Nitz -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Product Suggestions
Bernard Coeytaux writes: This product [SequeLink] is a TCP listener running on z/os that connect to db2 via RRSAF. The clienst must have the sequelink clients installed. It has many security features that DB2 didn't have BEFORE the new TRUSTED CONTEXT object in V9. Now you can try to play with the DB2 TRUSTED CONTEXT of V9 to enhance the security for distributed users, the only difference is that you will use the DIST interface on the Host instead of the RRSAF. Thanks, Bernard, that's a very helpful explanation. DB2 Version 8 introduced zIIP exploitation in the direct JDBC/ODBC/DRDA connection, so I wonder if that's another difference. - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect STG Value Creation Complex Deals Team IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote in message news:listserv%201011010143572520.0...@bama.ua.edu... Are there still problems known or is it generally considered safe to go to VSM USEZOSV1R9RULES(NO)? We run 1.10, going to 1.11 soon. IPL your test system / sysplex with these options in your diag: Traps Name( IeaInitArSrb /* Initialize ARs for SRBs*/ IeaInitRegsTask /* Initialize GPRs for TCBs */ IgvInitCpool /* Initialize CPOOL GET elements */ IgvInitGetmain/* Initialize GETMAINed storage */ IgvInitFreemain /* Initialize FREEMAINed storage */ IarSt64InitGet/* Initialize gotten 64-bit stg. */ IarCp64InitGet/* Initialize gotten 64-bit cells */ ) In addition, copy igvdgnpp from samplib (?) to your proclib and start that stc. All of this will basically 'pollute' everything not expressly initialized with a pattern of all Foxes or x'4F'. Last time I tried this, we were hit by quite a few problems. On the other hand, if your system comes up and runs without any abend0cx, you can safely turn on using the new rules. The above diag traps thoroughly test all code and would simulate errors from the improved rules. Barbara, Thanks for the tip. However, I can't find any igvdgnpp proc. With Google I found an older version (for PSA traps), but I don't think this is the one you intend. Where did you find the JCL or can you show yours? Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Thanks for the tip. However, I can't find any igvdgnpp proc. With Google I found an older version (for PSA traps), but I don't think this is the one you intend. Where did you find the JCL or can you show yours? Yes, the PSA one is the one. I don't remember where I originally copied it from, but here is the JCL: //// //* *// //* THIS PROCEDURE WILL PRIME THE RESTART OLD PSW, THE *// //* MACHINE CHECK OLD PSW, AND THE MACHINE CHECK LOGOUT *// //* AREA AND SAVE AREAS WITH THE VALUE SPECIFIED BY THE *// //* V= PARAMETER, AT THE INTERVAL SPECIFIED BY THE T=*// //* PARAMETER (T IS IN UNITS OF HUNDREDTHS OF SECONDS, *// //* IN HEX). THE PURPOSE IS TO MAKE THESE AREAS NON-ZERO *// //* TO CATCH PROGRAMS WHICH ACCIDENTALLY REFERENCE THEM, *// //* AND GET LUCKY AND DO NOT ABEND BECAUSE THEY ARE *// //* USUALLY ZERO.*// //* *// //* IF IGVDGNPP IS TERMINATED VIA AN MVS STOP (P)*// //* COMMAND, IT SETS ALL MODIFIED AREAS TO ZERO BEFORE *// //* TERMINATING. *// //* *// //IGVDGNPP PROC T=EA60,V='50404143,,,FF7F' //IGVDGNPP EXEC PGM=IGVDGNPP,TIME=1440, // PARM='T,V' Regards, Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RMM UTC(YES) and Daylight Savings Time
Hello, We are working to migrate CA1 to RMM. We create the CDS with the EDGUTIL with the following parameters: CONTROL CDSID(SYS1) EXTENDEDBIN(YES) STACKEDVOLUME(YES) UTC(YES) + CATSYNC(YES) We are running in parallel from 6 months and all worked fine until last week. Every days, the TWS execute a batch application to verify CA1 TMC and RMM CDS are in SYNC and every day worled fine. The night between Saturday and Sunday the Daylight Savings Time ended. This morning the batch application reports a thousands of anomalies due to different CA1 Create Date/Time and RMM Assigned Date/Time. Furthermore, some volume created between midnight and the 01:00:00 AM has been relased a day before. From a deeeper analysis I found that all the dates are now back of 1 hour. This means that: 1. some volume are released a day before: 2. some dates reported by RMM are 1 hour earlier. I read the manual carefully and I understand that the dates are stored internally in GMT/UTC but how is possible to avoid this problem ? Thank you and best regards Marco -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
D'oh
I find John Gilmore's vocabulary most cromulent and it embiggins every thread in which it is used :-) o.k., so I just had to go google this. Obviously my television indoctrination is somewhat lacking. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM UTC(YES) and Daylight Savings Time
Where are you located? In the US the Daylight saving changes on Nov 6/7. Is yours earlier than ours? Or were you doing a test? Lizette Hello, We are working to migrate CA1 to RMM. We create the CDS with the EDGUTIL with the following parameters: CONTROL CDSID(SYS1) EXTENDEDBIN(YES) STACKEDVOLUME(YES) UTC(YES) + CATSYNC(YES) We are running in parallel from 6 months and all worked fine until last week. Every days, the TWS execute a batch application to verify CA1 TMC and RMM CDS are in SYNC and every day worled fine. The night between Saturday and Sunday the Daylight Savings Time ended. This morning the batch application reports a thousands of anomalies due to different CA1 Create Date/Time and RMM Assigned Date/Time. Furthermore, some volume created between midnight and the 01:00:00 AM has been relased a day before. From a deeeper analysis I found that all the dates are now back of 1 hour. This means that: 1. some volume are released a day before: 2. some dates reported by RMM are 1 hour earlier. I read the manual carefully and I understand that the dates are stored internally in GMT/UTC but how is possible to avoid this problem ? Thank you and best regards Marco -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote in message news:listserv%201011010620067632.0...@bama.ua.edu... Thanks for the tip. However, I can't find any igvdgnpp proc. With Google I found an older version (for PSA traps), but I don't think this is the one you intend. Where did you find the JCL or can you show yours? Yes, the PSA one is the one. I don't remember where I originally copied it from, but here is the JCL: //// //* *// //* THIS PROCEDURE WILL PRIME THE RESTART OLD PSW, THE *// //* MACHINE CHECK OLD PSW, AND THE MACHINE CHECK LOGOUT *// //* AREA AND SAVE AREAS WITH THE VALUE SPECIFIED BY THE *// //* V= PARAMETER, AT THE INTERVAL SPECIFIED BY THE T=*// //* PARAMETER (T IS IN UNITS OF HUNDREDTHS OF SECONDS, *// //* IN HEX). THE PURPOSE IS TO MAKE THESE AREAS NON-ZERO *// //* TO CATCH PROGRAMS WHICH ACCIDENTALLY REFERENCE THEM, *// //* AND GET LUCKY AND DO NOT ABEND BECAUSE THEY ARE *// //* USUALLY ZERO.*// //* *// //* IF IGVDGNPP IS TERMINATED VIA AN MVS STOP (P)*// //* COMMAND, IT SETS ALL MODIFIED AREAS TO ZERO BEFORE *// //* TERMINATING. *// //* *// //IGVDGNPP PROC T=EA60,V='50404143,,,FF7F' //IGVDGNPP EXEC PGM=IGVDGNPP,TIME=1440, // PARM='T,V' Regards, Barbara Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. Furthermore, the mentioned traps are not in my Inititalization and Tuning Reference, nor can I find them with IBM. Where did you get this wisdom? Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL from share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, when I saw a PSA Furthermore, the mentioned traps are not in my Inititalization and Tuning Reference, nor can I find them with IBM. Where did you get this wisdom? Of course they're not documented (One of Ed Jaffes pet peeves...) Look for 'dirty getmain' in the archives. A lot of those diag traps were at one time or another mentioned in other bit buckets. And were discussed at ibm-main. I tend to keep these things in a folder, to be whipped out later. Once you set them via DIAG, 'D DIAG' dutifully shows them! But officially they're 'unsupported'. Which is why I said to use a test system to try. Which is why it is so easy for vendors (like Beta Systems) to refuse to fix things uncovered by those traps. And if someone has the bug and did not have the traps on, the problem is most likely not reproducible and hence will not get fixed, because the 'right' doc isn't there. Barbara -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
LDAP
Looking for install help on LDAP(TDS) Asked to setup LDAP on z/OS--1.11 Looking at manual--getting confused... Purpose is to extract info from RACF..few fields..NON-DB2...just a flat/seq file...be it OS or zFS file.. Any help would be appreciated...believe I have the samp files at hand.. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Of course they're not documented But they are listed in SYS1.MODGEN(IGVDGNB). Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote in message news:listserv%201011010735061362.0...@bama.ua.edu... Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL from share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, when I saw a PSA Furthermore, the mentioned traps are not in my Inititalization and Tuning Reference, nor can I find them with IBM. Where did you get this wisdom? Of course they're not documented (One of Ed Jaffes pet peeves...) Look for 'dirty getmain' in the archives. A lot of those diag traps were at one time or another mentioned in other bit buckets. And were discussed at ibm-main. I tend to keep these things in a folder, to be whipped out later. Once you set them via DIAG, 'D DIAG' dutifully shows them! But officially they're 'unsupported'. Which is why I said to use a test system to try. Which is why it is so easy for vendors (like Beta Systems) to refuse to fix things uncovered by those traps. And if someone has the bug and did not have the traps on, the problem is most likely not reproducible and hence will not get fixed, because the 'right' doc isn't there. Barbara Yes, found them in bitbucket x'1C'. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Terminate LE enclave and proceed
I have an assembler (non-LE) program which calls a LE main-routine which creates an LE environment. It does not remove the LE enclave at termination (don't ask why). When the assembler routine gets back control it wishes to remove the enclave. There are the CEETREC and CEETREN routines, but they are documented as not returning control. I tried a call anchor set with zero, but that did not help. And if it did, I would lose storage. What is the proper approach, if any? -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Terminate LE enclave and proceed
On 11/1/2010 7:22 AM, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I have an assembler (non-LE) program which calls a LE main-routine which creates an LE environment. It does not remove the LE enclave at termination (don't ask why). Yeah, but, how can we understand the environment you have? When the assembler routine gets back control it wishes to remove the enclave. There are the CEETREC and CEETREN routines, but they are documented as not returning control. I tried a call anchor set with zero, but that did not help. And if it did, I would lose storage. What is the proper approach, if any? This is very strange. The proper approach is for the LE main to remove the enclave. Can you give us more information? -- Binyamin Dissenbdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: RMM UTC(YES) and Daylight Savings Time
Europe changed this past weekend. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: RMM UTC(YES) and Daylight Savings Time Where are you located? In the US the Daylight saving changes on Nov 6/7. Is yours earlier than ours? Or were you doing a test? Lizette Hello, We are working to migrate CA1 to RMM. We create the CDS with the EDGUTIL with the following parameters: CONTROL CDSID(SYS1) EXTENDEDBIN(YES) STACKEDVOLUME(YES) UTC(YES) + CATSYNC(YES) We are running in parallel from 6 months and all worked fine until last week. Every days, the TWS execute a batch application to verify CA1 TMC and RMM CDS are in SYNC and every day worled fine. The night between Saturday and Sunday the Daylight Savings Time ended. This morning the batch application reports a thousands of anomalies due to different CA1 Create Date/Time and RMM Assigned Date/Time. Furthermore, some volume created between midnight and the 01:00:00 AM has been relased a day before. From a deeeper analysis I found that all the dates are now back of 1 hour. This means that: 1. some volume are released a day before: 2. some dates reported by RMM are 1 hour earlier. I read the manual carefully and I understand that the dates are stored internally in GMT/UTC but how is possible to avoid this problem ? Thank you and best regards Marco -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
Bob Shannon bshan...@rocketsoftware.com wrote in message news:58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420f088a3...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware .com... Of course they're not documented But they are listed in SYS1.MODGEN(IGVDGNB). Bob Shannon Like George Orwell's pigs already said: all traps are undocumented, but some traps are more undocumented than others. Only a few of the traps are listed in IGVDGNB. And yes: within 30 minutes after activating the traps, we had a hit: TSSUTIL with a 0E0-28 abend, complaining certain bits are nonzero. From the same company Barbara mentioned. Kees. For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
It's part of my enjoyment of John Gilmore that many of his words have sent me to various web sites for definition. But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. :-) - Original Message - From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: ATTACH My problem in all of this is that I am unfamiliar with the term eduction as anything but a technical one in geology. It is not I suppose impossible, on the principles of English word formation, as a substantive formed from educe (educere); but I have never seen it; the OED wots not of it; and I am thus very suspicious of its legitimacy, even as a nonce word. I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5, when I first encountered the French word impayable and took it for a legitimate English one too; but I am older now and not so easy to fool. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Terminate LE enclave and proceed
For anything non-trivial, I generally call CEEPIPI to setup and later take down the LE environment. It gives me the ability to pass an options string (e.g. TRAP(OFF) in debug mode), define my own routines for acquiring and releasing storage, etc. It's more work the first time but, like most other interface routines, the code can be written in a modular way so that it is highly reusable in subsequent projects. At 09:22 AM 11/1/2010, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I have an assembler (non-LE) program which calls a LE main-routine which creates an LE environment. It does not remove the LE enclave at termination (don't ask why). When the assembler routine gets back control it wishes to remove the enclave. There are the CEETREC and CEETREN routines, but they are documented as not returning control. I tried a call anchor set with zero, but that did not help. And if it did, I would lose storage. What is the proper approach, if any? == Art Celestini Celestini Development Services Phone: 201-670-1674Wyckoff, NJ = http://celestini.com = Mail sent to the From address used in this post will be rejected by our server. Please send off- list email to: ibmmainat-signcelestinidotcom. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
You can copy it from a word document after you insert it as a symbol and then paste it in your e-mail if your email server doesn't support symbols. Like this - æ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony's FRONTIER account Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 10:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH It's part of my enjoyment of John Gilmore that many of his words have sent me to various web sites for definition. But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. :-) - Original Message - From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: ATTACH My problem in all of this is that I am unfamiliar with the term eduction as anything but a technical one in geology. It is not I suppose impossible, on the principles of English word formation, as a substantive formed from educe (educere); but I have never seen it; the OED wots not of it; and I am thus very suspicious of its legitimacy, even as a nonce word. I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5, when I first encountered the French word impayable and took it for a legitimate English one too; but I am older now and not so easy to fool. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Question about RDz 7.6 and RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack
We have RDz 7.6 installed on the z/OS server and Windows client. Is the RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack for the Windows client only ? Is there a portion for the z/OS server ?
Re: ATTACH
I am glad someone keeps us on our toes, language-wise, as John does, but I think there is a time and place for it. The original poster is obviously new to multi-tasking and the many problems that go with it, so why burden him with having to dig through a dictionary to know if what is being said is important or not. Yes, some words carry a nuance that another word doesn't, like 'tome' rather than 'book' when you want to convey it is a large heavy book. The use of naïf over novice was unfortunate as naïf has a more negative connotation than novice. A naïf is a naive person, or one who is artless or unsophisticated. A novice is a beginner. By the questions asked, the poster was a beginner, but then at one point weren't we all. I think we all have a tendency to show off a little bit, myself included. My point is: gear the answer to the level of the questioner. If on a Friday John wants to send out an email that will keep us digging in our dictionaries for a week, that is fine by me, but doing it to a person who is trying to get his feet wet is over doing it. My two cents for a Monday (ugh!) morning. Christopher Y. Blaicher Senior Software Developer Austin Development Lab phone: 512.340.6154 mobile: 512.627.3803 fax: 512.340.6647 10431 Morado Circle Austin, TX 78759 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony's FRONTIER account Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH It's part of my enjoyment of John Gilmore that many of his words have sent me to various web sites for definition. But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. :-) - Original Message - From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: ATTACH My problem in all of this is that I am unfamiliar with the term eduction as anything but a technical one in geology. It is not I suppose impossible, on the principles of English word formation, as a substantive formed from educe (educere); but I have never seen it; the OED wots not of it; and I am thus very suspicious of its legitimacy, even as a nonce word. I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5, when I first encountered the French word impayable and took it for a legitimate English one too; but I am older now and not so easy to fool. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about RDz 7.6 and RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack
Maintenance for the z/OS part of RDz (HHOP760) is available from Shopz. I happen to get my maintenance from the RECEIVE ORDER command. I wish the z/OS part of RDz was included as part of the base, or at least orderable from shopz. Kinda a pain, to have to upload the SMPE files from the workstation install CD's. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Allen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Question about RDz 7.6 and RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack We have RDz 7.6 installed on the z/OS server and Windows client. Is the RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack for the Windows client only ? Is there a portion for the z/OS server ? This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 8:20 AM, Blaicher, Chris chris_blaic...@bmc.comwrote: I am glad someone keeps us on our toes, language-wise, as John does, but I think there is a time and place for it. The original poster is obviously new to multi-tasking and the many problems that go with it, so why burden him with having to dig through a dictionary to know if what is being said is important or not. Yes, some words carry a nuance that another word doesn't, like 'tome' rather than 'book' when you want to convey it is a large heavy book. The use of naïf over novice was unfortunate as naïf has a more negative connotation than novice. A naïf is a naive person, or one who is artless or unsophisticated. A novice is a beginner. By the questions asked, the poster was a beginner, but then at one point weren't we all. I think we all have a tendency to show off a little bit, myself included. My point is: gear the answer to the level of the questioner. If on a Friday John wants to send out an email that will keep us digging in our dictionaries for a week, that is fine by me, but doing it to a person who is trying to get his feet wet is over doing it. Thanks for making my point better that I did. You understood the meaning of my request precisely. Sam My two cents for a Monday (ugh!) morning. Christopher Y. Blaicher Senior Software Developer Austin Development Lab phone: 512.340.6154 mobile: 512.627.3803 fax: 512.340.6647 10431 Morado Circle Austin, TX 78759 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony's FRONTIER account Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH It's part of my enjoyment of John Gilmore that many of his words have sent me to various web sites for definition. But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. :-) - Original Message - From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: ATTACH My problem in all of this is that I am unfamiliar with the term eduction as anything but a technical one in geology. It is not I suppose impossible, on the principles of English word formation, as a substantive formed from educe (educere); but I have never seen it; the OED wots not of it; and I am thus very suspicious of its legitimacy, even as a nonce word. I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5, when I first encountered the French word impayable and took it for a legitimate English one too; but I am older now and not so easy to fool. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
On 11/1/2010 1:45 AM, Barbara Nitz wrote: Yes, CA are certainly BIG offenders in this game. Actually, we just ran into a key8 CSA thing with datacom - you cannot change the XCF MUF group name without it. Even after IPL they do not come up. We've had pretty good luck getting CA to correct these kinds of problems. When we first started running IGVDGNPP to dirty unused PSA fields (in test of course), PMO had problems. CA has corrected this. The MUF for MSM doesn't seem to have the problem with LCCA/PCCA above the line that the Scheduler one does, so I am hopeful the the next version of Scheduler will fix this. -- Richard -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
I be diggin' my man John's words too. He don't be lunchin'. He be keepin' it real. Word. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony's FRONTIER account Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH It's part of my enjoyment of John Gilmore that many of his words have sent me to various web sites for definition. But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. :-) - Original Message - From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: ATTACH My problem in all of this is that I am unfamiliar with the term eduction as anything but a technical one in geology. It is not I suppose impossible, on the principles of English word formation, as a substantive formed from educe (educere); but I have never seen it; the OED wots not of it; and I am thus very suspicious of its legitimacy, even as a nonce word. I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5, when I first encountered the French word impayable and took it for a legitimate English one too; but I am older now and not so easy to fool. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Diag traps, was: Re: z/os 1.11 and low private
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Yes, this is the JCL I found, but this only targets some PSA areas and not with x'FF' and x'4F' as you said. The FF and 4F come from the DIAG traps. And I think I copied the JCL from share presentation 'bit bucket 29'. And believe me, when I saw a PSA Furthermore, the mentioned traps are not in my Inititalization and Tuning Reference, nor can I find them with IBM. Where did you get this wisdom? Of course they're not documented (One of Ed Jaffes pet peeves...) Look for 'dirty getmain' in the archives. A lot of those diag traps were at one time or another mentioned in other bit buckets. And were discussed at ibm-main. I tend to keep these things in a folder, to be whipped out later. Once you set them via DIAG, 'D DIAG' dutifully shows them! But officially they're 'unsupported'. Which is why I said to use a test system to try. Which is why it is so easy for vendors (like Beta Systems) to refuse to fix things uncovered by those traps. And if someone has the bug and did not have the traps on, the problem is most likely not reproducible and hence will not get fixed, because the 'right' doc isn't there. Barbara How about putting these settings in a Informational APAR II# as a suggested debugging technique? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFDSS QUESTION - RECEIVING ERROR MESSAGE ADR410E
Lizette, Sorry for the long delay in answering your question. The gdg base is being held by the STC CMN2STAR. I waited for the STC to shutdown and I was able to move the dsn. Of late, when I make a post it doesn't appear right away. There could be a problem with my Yahoo account. Thanks. --- On Fri, 10/29/10, willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com wrote: From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - RECEIVING ERROR MESSAGE ADR410E To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Friday, October 29, 2010, 5:51 AM Lizette, You were absolutely right. The base gdg is in use by a STC. I guess I will have to wait for the STC to be shutdown before I attempt to move it. Thanks for your help. --- On Fri, 10/29/10, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - RECEIVING ERROR MESSAGE ADR410E To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Received: Friday, October 29, 2010, 5:42 AM I am attempting to move a PS dsn (RECFM=0, LRECL=0) using the COPY command: COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(SYS2.CMN2.SYSDUMP.G3430V00)) OUTDDNAME(DISK2) - SPHERE - DELETE PURGE - CATALOG - TOL(ENQF) However, I receive the error message: ADR410E (001)-DDFLT(01), DATA SET ES1.CMN2.SYSDUMP.G3430V00 IN CATALOG SYSPS.UCAT ON VOLUME SYB249 FAILED SERIALIZATION FOR DELETE. When I do a GRS command to see what STC/JOB is using the dsn, I get the following: D GRS,RES=(SYSDSN,SYS2.CMN2.SYSDUMP.G3430V00) ISG343I 07.07.42 GRS STATUS 501 NO REQUESTORS FOR RESOURCE SYSDSN SYS2.CMN2.SYSDUMP.G3430V00 Would anybody know what would be causing this? Is it because of the RECFM? Did you have a task running (batch, tso or Online) that was using the BASE GDG? You might want to see if the BASE gdg is in use, and not the specific GDG. In z/OS the BASE is typically used for the enq and not the specific GDG number. Use the base name in the D GRS command instead. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. What ever happened to 'look it up'? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH I be diggin' my man John's words too. He don't be lunchin'. He be keepin' it real. Word. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony's FRONTIER account Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 9:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH It's part of my enjoyment of John Gilmore that many of his words have sent me to various web sites for definition. But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. :-) - Original Message - From: john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: ATTACH My problem in all of this is that I am unfamiliar with the term eduction as anything but a technical one in geology. It is not I suppose impossible, on the principles of English word formation, as a substantive formed from educe (educere); but I have never seen it; the OED wots not of it; and I am thus very suspicious of its legitimacy, even as a nonce word. I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5, when I first encountered the French word impayable and took it for a legitimate English one too; but I am older now and not so easy to fool. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
I like the US-English-International Keyboard setting on Windows / Linux. Once you set this setting, when you type the first combineable character, it is not echoed to the screen until the next character is typed. If the combination is one character, the combined character will be sent, otherwise the two characters will be sent seperately. Type a blank after a combineable character to get just the combineable character. To combine the AE characters, you have to select a language that uses that set. `~^' èùìòà (remainder left as an exercise). On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:25 AM, Tony's FRONTIER account tbabo...@frontier.com wrote: It's part of my enjoyment of John Gilmore that many of his words have sent me to various web sites for definition. But now I just wish I knew how to squash the a and the e together. :-) -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: DFDSS QUESTION - RECEIVING ERROR MESSAGE ADR410E
-Original Message- From: willie bunter williebun...@yahoo.com Sent: Nov 1, 2010 11:01 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: DFDSS QUESTION - RECEIVING ERROR MESSAGE ADR410E Lizette, Sorry for the long delay in answering your question. The gdg base is being held by the STC CMN2STAR. I waited for the STC to shutdown and I was able to move the dsn. Of late, when I make a post it doesn't appear right away. There could be a problem with my Yahoo account. Thanks. Willie, I am glad you got it resolved. I am sorry for the delays in your postings. Have a better week. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On 31 October 2010 12:59, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote: One of the chief uses of a subtask is to delegate to it a function that is in some sense perilous, may fail/ABEND. Such a subtask ABEND leaves the parent task alive in circumstances that would have killed it if it had undertaken this function itself. Another important use of subtasks is for asynchronous, concurrent/overlapped processing, which can abbreviate the residence time or improve the response times of an application dramatically. Finally, subtasking is often used to implement precedence constraints. Task S may wait on task P if S cannot start its work until P has finished its work. Or again, it may be appropriate for S to proceed after only m n attached subtasks have been posted complete; and there are facilities available for doing this. Another use for [sub]tasks, which can be argued to be a subset of the third point above, but which I think deserves its own entry, is to implement co-routines. To be sure, there are other ways to implement them, but they usually turn out to be ad hoc implementations of multitasking with various restrictions. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
New(ish) redbook on z196
Sorry if I'm reposting something that was already posted. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg247833.html?Open quote The zEnterprise System consists of the IBM zEnterprise 196 central processor complex, IBM zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager, and IBM zEnterprise BladeCenter(r) Extension. The z196 is designed with improved scalability, performance, security, resiliency, availability, and virtualization. The z196 Model M80 provides up to 1.6 times the total system capacity of the z10 EC Model E64, and all z196 models provide up to twice the available memory of the z10 EC. The zBX infrastructure works with the z196 to enhance System z virtualization and management through an integrated hardware platform that spans mainframe and POWER7 technologies. Through the Unified Resource Manager, the zEnterprise System is managed as a single pool of resources, integrating system and workload management across the environment. This book provides an overview of the zEnterprise System and its functions, features, and associated software support. Greater detail is offered in areas relevant to technical planning. This book is intended for systems engineers, consultants, planners, and anyone wanting to understand the zEnterprise System functions and plan for their usage. It is not intended as an introduction to mainframes. Readers are expected to be generally familiar with existing IBM System z technology and terminology. /quote John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The replication feature.
---snip--- A few words on replication. The standard replication is sending CCWS to all controller which have mirrors disks. Sometime controller send data to other controller to sync the data between all of them. In this process each controller emulates the CCWS and by that create the same data as the source disk. In this case the search key is very easy to implement. MFNetDisk because of the slow media of TCP do something else. It is analyze the CCW in memory without accessing the source disk data. That is why it is hard to process the search key without access the data in the disk. After process the CCW it is decide what tracks need to be ReSync in the mirrors of the source disks. This process is complicate process especially for search key CCW. Using this processing, MFNetDisk never block the real disk but the minus is that this is ASync processing meaning that if there is crash in MF, the mirror may be not fully Sync with the source disk. the MFNetDisk replication can be good if you want to create Sync point or backup of the real disk in specific time where you can validate that the process of ReSync is done completely without updating the source disks for short time until the ReSync is totally over. This is called Sync Point where the mirrors is fully Sync with the real disk. About the MFNetDisk emulation. Each CCW is sent to the PC which access the data in the emulate disks and easily can process any CCW include serach key and all other CCWS. ---unsnip- Shai, it's entirely acceptyable to use a READ COUNT CCW before the SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL CCW. READ COUNT SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL TIC *-16 (Back to the READ COUNT READY DATA (or WRITE DATA, as needed) Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LDAP
Does the data need to be real-time? If not, have you considered using IRRDBU00 to unload the RACF database to a sequential file? -- John McKown Maranatha! Sent from my Vibrant Android phone. On Nov 1, 2010 7:44 AM, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com wrote: Looking for install help on LDAP(TDS) Asked to setup LDAP on z/OS--1.11 Looking at manual--getting confused... Purpose is to extract info from RACF..few fields..NON-DB2...just a flat/seq file...be it OS or zFS file.. Any help would be appreciated...believe I have the samp files at hand.. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high of a level. What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate! If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault. It is the fault of the writer. And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. The calling of him naive was also insulting. Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him. If I had answers, I would have responded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: LDAP
from what I gather the ldap will be queried ? for information.like userid/name ..at least what I have been told... not familiar with irrdbu00 .. From: John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 11/01/2010 02:31 PM Subject:Re: LDAP Sent by:IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Does the data need to be real-time? If not, have you considered using IRRDBU00 to unload the RACF database to a sequential file? -- John McKown Maranatha! Sent from my Vibrant Android phone. On Nov 1, 2010 7:44 AM, Ron Wells rwe...@agfinance.com wrote: Looking for install help on LDAP(TDS) Asked to setup LDAP on z/OS--1.11 Looking at manual--getting confused... Purpose is to extract info from RACF..few fields..NON-DB2...just a flat/seq file...be it OS or zFS file.. Any help would be appreciated...believe I have the samp files at hand.. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Product Suggestions
On 27 October 2010 13:46, August Carideo august.cari...@avon.com wrote: Any suggestions from the list for replacements of the below listed products would be appreciated Beta Systems Software, where I work, has products that are a good fit in some of these cases. As is so often the case, the best replacement often depends on how you are using your current products. Vendors have different views of the business tasks and how they fit together, and sometimes it pays to have another look not only at product pricing from your current vendors, but whether a different way of slicing and dicing the business requirements makes more sense both operationally and financially. To this end, a review of current products and various alternatives with a knowledgeable representative can be very useful. Another aspect to consider is your current vendors' long term view of the products you have. Some vendors are notorious for buying up a product, and milking it for what maintenance revenue they can. Others make it clear where their products are going, and have a roadmap for each. CA Products NetMaster For certain SNA and TCP/IP tasks, the Blockade For MVS product provides very cost effective support. XCOM Again, it depends what you are doing with it. For z/OS -other platform file transfer in large volume, the Harbor File Transfer (HFT) product offers tremendous performance. For full-fledged managed file transfer, the CFI product is flexible, audit-ready, and offers a multitude of options. ASG Products ViewDirect Yet again depending on what you are using it for... The Beta 93 Output Management Suite offers all kinds of document output and content management features, on both z/OS and UNIX platforms. I'm a developer, and I don't send unwanted sales people to call. But if you would like further info, or a contact, give me a shout. Beta's US HQ is in Herndon, VA. Tony Harminc www.betasystems.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
snip-- There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. What ever happened to 'look it up'? unsnip Vocabulary enhancement is one thing; obscurity is quite another. I don't happen to have the Oxford English Dictionary on my shelf. There's a lot to be said for clarity and using words that are seldom, if ever, used in today's communications does NOT contribute to clarity! :-) Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
I agree that in general conversation, a person needs to communicate to the listener at the listener's level. But this is supposed to be, and on occasion is, a technical forum. Granted, that does not mean use obscure words that are not generally in use. But there does need to be some level of assumption about the intelligence of the members. Again, not that we should be deliberately confusing (as we sometimes are), but technical vocabulary is required. This is not really a newbie forum. But newbies are welcome, if they are willing to learn. And for most, Google is generally available and can be used to look up words. Within those bounds, I agree that the purpose of communication is to communicate. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high of a level. What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate! If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault. It is the fault of the writer. And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. The calling of him naive was also insulting. Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him. If I had answers, I would have responded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:41 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I agree that in general conversation, a person needs to communicate to the listener at the listener's level. But this is supposed to be, and on occasion is, a technical forum. Granted, that does not mean use obscure words that are not generally in use. But there does need to be some level of assumption about the intelligence of the members. Again, not that we should be deliberately confusing (as we sometimes are), but technical vocabulary is required. This is not really a newbie forum. But newbies are welcome, if they are willing to learn. And for most, Google is generally available and can be used to look up words. Within those bounds, I agree that the purpose of communication is to communicate. We also need to be sensitive to list members that use English as a second or third language. I completely agree with using clear and precise technical vocabulary as it relates to the hardware and software discussed on this list. I do not agree with respect to using uncommon words to connect the technical information. Just as good coding takes a lot of effort to make it as simple as possible while meeting requirements, good writing also takes effort to communicate concisely and in a manner accessible to the entire audience. Sam -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high of a level. What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate! If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault. It is the fault of the writer. And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. The calling of him naive was also insulting. Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him. If I had answers, I would have responded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS umask in batch?
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:33 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Please define in batch. What are you running to get UNIX services going? Or are you just calling some BPX* program from your program and letting things default? /etc/profile and $HOME/.profile are only used by the UNIX /bin/sh program and then only when it is a login shell. Yeah, since sending that, I've learned a bit more. I'm not calling any BPX program -- I'm calling a program that has POSIX(ON) and creates files using POSIX functions. And it seems to still be 0022, even though I've changed it to in the profiles. I don't see it in RACF anywhere, but of course that doesn't mean I'm not just missing it. There's the _BPX_BATCH_UMASK STDENV variable, but that only seems to apply to BPXBATCH. Maybe I need to just call umask from the program -- that just seems odd and poorly thought out, though. And might irritate the user who *wants* to control the umask; all I need is to understand how to control it, then I can tell them You're on yer own... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: Many repliers have emphasized clarity and precision. Although Mr. Gilmore's word choice is sometimes arcane and obscure, nevertheless his words under attack were not big or complex words; e.g., ætat, having only five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as big, and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge of Latin roots, as was lacunae, also not a big word. Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. These two words are not synonymous. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. If you take Mr. Gilmore to task for lack of clarity and precision, then please be sure that your post is just as clear and precise as you wish his had been. Were it not for Mr. Gilmore's predilection for precise meanings, I would still be ignorant of the words antipode and boustrophedon (the latter of which is big, complex, and arcane, but amazingly precise). As I also do not have an OED on my shelf, he often drives me h! appily to an online English dictionary, into a word's etymology, and from thence to further French, Greek, Italian, or even Icelandic dabbling. I agree with your point about Mr. Gilmore's precision ... I'm sure that my writing lacks in this area. My issue is not with big or complex words, but with uncommon words. This list has people for whom English is not their native language. Surely we want to assist them with MVS related technical questions. There are also plain old guys like me who want/need the technical information without having to revisit English class with every email. Sam Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high of a level. What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate! If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault. It is the fault of the writer. And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. The calling of him naive was also insulting. Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him. If I had answers, I would have responded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
USS umask in batch?
I can't seem to get my batch umask to be anything other than 022. I've changed it in /etc/profile and in $HOME/.profile and it's still 022. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Share
Anyone know Reg Fee for share...member vs non-member ?? ball park will work.. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about RDz 7.6 and RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack
On IBMLink, I found the following PTFs: UK53000, UK54177, UK57122, UK57126 and UK57130. Are there more? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jousma, David Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Question about RDz 7.6 and RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack Maintenance for the z/OS part of RDz (HHOP760) is available from Shopz. I happen to get my maintenance from the RECEIVE ORDER command. I wish the z/OS part of RDz was included as part of the base, or at least orderable from shopz. Kinda a pain, to have to upload the SMPE files from the workstation install CD's. _ Dave Jousma Assistant Vice President, Mainframe Services david.jou...@53.com 1830 East Paris, Grand Rapids, MI 49546 MD RSCB1G p 616.653.8429 f 616.653.8497 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Daniel Allen Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Question about RDz 7.6 and RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack We have RDz 7.6 installed on the z/OS server and Windows client. Is the RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack for the Windows client only ? Is there a portion for the z/OS server ? This e-mail transmission contains information that is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended only for the addressee(s) named above. If you receive this e-mail in error, please do not read, copy or disseminate it in any manner. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. Please reply to the message immediately by informing the sender that the message was misdirected. After replying, please erase it from your computer system. Your assistance in correcting this error is appreciated. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Share
Sorry about the formatting. http://www.share.org/Events/UpcomingConference/RegistrationRates/tabid/200/Default.aspx Early Registration Regular Registration (on or before January 14, 2011) (after January 14, 2011) Full Conference - Individual Member $1,600 $1,800 Non-Member $2,000 $2,200 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Wells Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Share Anyone know Reg Fee for share...member vs non-member ?? ball park will work.. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged information. This information is intended only for the use of the individual or entity addressed above. If you are not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of the E-mail or attached files is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Question about RDz 7.6 and RDz 7.6.2 Refresh Pack
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 13:07:36 -0700, Daniel Allen dal...@serena.com wrote: On IBMLink, I found the following PTFs: UK53000, UK54177, UK57122, UK57126 and UK57130. Are there more? No this is the current list. I just ran a receive order and verify it. Doug -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS umask in batch?
Please define in batch. What are you running to get UNIX services going? Or are you just calling some BPX* program from your program and letting things default? /etc/profile and $HOME/.profile are only used by the UNIX /bin/sh program and then only when it is a login shell. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of zMan Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 3:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: USS umask in batch? I can't seem to get my batch umask to be anything other than 022. I've changed it in /etc/profile and in $HOME/.profile and it's still 022. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
Many repliers have emphasized clarity and precision. Although Mr. Gilmore's word choice is sometimes arcane and obscure, nevertheless his words under attack were not big or complex words; e.g., ætat, having only five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as big, and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge of Latin roots, as was lacunae, also not a big word. Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. These two words are not synonymous. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. If you take Mr. Gilmore to task for lack of clarity and precision, then please be sure that your post is just as clear and precise as you wish his had been. Were it not for Mr. Gilmore's predilection for precise meanings, I would still be ignorant of the words antipode and boustrophedon (the latter of which is big, complex, and arcane, but amazingly precise). As I also do not have an OED on my shelf, he often drives me h! appily to an online English dictionary, into a word's etymology, and from thence to further French, Greek, Italian, or even Icelandic dabbling. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high of a level. What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate! If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault. It is the fault of the writer. And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. The calling of him naive was also insulting. Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him. If I had answers, I would have responded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New(ish) redbook on z196
I don't know if it's been posted before, but I downloaded the pdf on 7/23. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: Sorry if I'm reposting something that was already posted. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg247833.html?Open quote The zEnterprise System consists of the IBM zEnterprise 196 central processor complex, IBM zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager, and IBM zEnterprise BladeCenter(r) Extension. The z196 is designed with improved scalability, performance, security, resiliency, availability, and virtualization. The z196 Model M80 provides up to 1.6 times the total system capacity of the z10 EC Model E64, and all z196 models provide up to twice the available memory of the z10 EC. The zBX infrastructure works with the z196 to enhance System z virtualization and management through an integrated hardware platform that spans mainframe and POWER7 technologies. Through the Unified Resource Manager, the zEnterprise System is managed as a single pool of resources, integrating system and workload management across the environment. This book provides an overview of the zEnterprise System and its functions, features, and associated software support. Greater detail is offered in areas relevant to technical planning. This book is intended for systems engineers, consultants, planners, and anyone wanting to understand the zEnterprise System functions and plan for their usage. It is not intended as an introduction to mainframes. Readers are expected to be generally familiar with existing IBM System z technology and terminology. /quote John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Necessity of UID zero.
If you do not have UID(0) then you also need read access to BPX.FILEATTR.PROGCTL BPX.FILEATTR.APF and BPX.FILEATTR.SHARELIB. These are particulary nasty ones because SMP/E will finish with a 0 return code but you will break the product and you will not have a clue of what's wrong. An example product that needs these is z/OSMF. Doug On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:18:02 -0400, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: The user submitting the install jobs (actually the USER= associated with the job) does not need UID(0) but they must have BPX.SUPERUSER. The jobs themselves will issue an SU as needed. Quite a few releases ago this was not true and the USER= had to be UID(0), not sure when this went away but it was many years ago. The various tasks that make up a working system each has their own need for UID(0) documented if it is needed. I am in the crossfire between auditors insisting that nothing needs UID 0 and sysprogs insiting that everything in their serverpac jobs must have UID zero as coded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS umask in batch?
On 11/1/2010 2:51 PM, zMan wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 4:33 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Please define in batch. What are you running to get UNIX services going? Or are you just calling some BPX* program from your program and letting things default? /etc/profile and $HOME/.profile are only used by the UNIX /bin/sh program and then only when it is a login shell. Yeah, since sending that, I've learned a bit more. I'm not calling any BPX program -- I'm calling a program that has POSIX(ON) and creates files using POSIX functions. What language is your program written in? What POSIX functions is it using? In my software I use bpx1opn and set the mode bits in a constant and it comes out just fine without worrying about umask. Also, you might want to post your question on the mvs-oe list. And it seems to still be 0022, even though I've changed it to in the profiles. I don't see it in RACF anywhere, but of course that doesn't mean I'm not just missing it. There's the _BPX_BATCH_UMASK STDENV variable, but that only seems to apply to BPXBATCH. Maybe I need to just call umask from the program -- that just seems odd and poorly thought out, though. And might irritate the user who *wants* to control the umask; all I need is to understand how to control it, then I can tell them You're on yer own... -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Necessity of UID zero.
A more common example (and well documented within the product) is Java. The installer must have those attributes if they aren't running as UID(0). Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:mzel...@flash.net Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:11:34 -0500, Doug Henry doug_he...@usbank.com wrote: If you do not have UID(0) then you also need read access to BPX.FILEATTR.PROGCTL BPX.FILEATTR.APF and BPX.FILEATTR.SHARELIB. These are particulary nasty ones because SMP/E will finish with a 0 return code but you will break the product and you will not have a clue of what's wrong. An example product that needs these is z/OSMF. Doug On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:18:02 -0400, Ken Porowski ken.porow...@cit.com wrote: The user submitting the install jobs (actually the USER= associated with the job) does not need UID(0) but they must have BPX.SUPERUSER. The jobs themselves will issue an SU as needed. Quite a few releases ago this was not true and the USER= had to be UID(0), not sure when this went away but it was many years ago. The various tasks that make up a working system each has their own need for UID(0) documented if it is needed. I am in the crossfire between auditors insisting that nothing needs UID 0 and sysprogs insiting that everything in their serverpac jobs must have UID zero as coded. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Any one have a solution for this
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Re: ATTACH
I do in fact give some thought to the needs of participants who are not native speakers of English, and with some of them I sometimes have clarifying offline exchanges in one of the other languages that I know well. Vocabulary, as measured by one of the standard intelligence scales, has little scatter. People know almost all of the words up to some level of difficulty/frequency of use and almost none above that level in their native languages. In second languages, however, things are very different. There is an important sense in which the notionally difficult words are the same in every language. A Russian may, for example, have a small English vocabulary, but he or she wil know the word 'hegemony' because it figured heavily in Soviet political talk. Again, an educated native speaker of a Latin dialect---French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Romansh, or Spanish--is all but certain to know the putatively difficult English words that have Latin or Greek etymologies. He or she may not, for example, know the word 'fish' but will know the word 'piscatorial'. [I he/she has been taught Grimm's laws fish will not be problematic the second time.] There are some traps, words having the same etymologies that have different meanings in different modern languages: 'egregio' does not have the negative connotations in Italian that 'egregious' has in English. Inevitably, one learns about these traps, and how to avoid them, early in one's experience of a new language. Concern about the impact of my written vocabulary on participants here whose English is a second language, whatever the motivation for that concern, is thus misplaced. The mistakes that educated Europeans make in English are of a different sort. More than once I have had to say to an Italian friend that, yes, 'evitable' is in the English dictionaries, Shakespeare and Sir Thomas Browne did use it, etc., etc.; but inferences from the currency of 'inevitable' to the usability of 'evitable' are problematic unless one is talking to elaborately educated native English speakers, who will decode it in a few milliseconds even if they are not familiar with it. (Both 'evitabile' and 'inevitabile' are current in Italian.) John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
ætat, having only five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as big, and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge of Latin roots, as was lacunae, also not a big word. Speaking of precision, I said large/obscure, not big. Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. These two words are not synonymous. Never said that they were. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. But, a naif is a naive person. So, calling somebody a naif is saying they are naive. So, by rephrasing, I did nothing wrong as to precision. And, I never said they were synonyms. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:00 PM, john gilmore john_w_gilm...@msn.com wrote: snip In second languages, however, things are very different. There is an important sense in which the notionally difficult words are the same in every language. A Russian may, for example, have a small English vocabulary, but he or she wil know the word 'hegemony' because it figured heavily in Soviet political talk. Again, an educated native speaker of a Latin dialect---French, Italian, Portuguese, Romanian, Romansh, or Spanish--is all but certain to know the putatively difficult English words that have Latin or Greek etymologies. He or she may not, for example, know the word 'fish' but will know the word 'piscatorial'. [I he/she has been taught Grimm's laws fish will not be problematic the second time.] There are some traps, words having the same etymologies that have different meanings in different modern languages: 'egregio' does not have the negative connotations in Italian that 'egregious' has in English. Inevitably, one learns about these traps, and how to avoid them, early in one's experience of a new language. Concern about the impact of my written vocabulary on participants here whose English is a second language, whatever the motivation for that concern, is thus misplaced. The mistakes that educated Europeans make in English are of a different sort. More than once I have had to say to an Italian friend that, yes, 'evitable' is in the English dictionaries, Shakespeare and Sir Thomas Browne did use it, etc., etc.; but inferences from the currency of 'inevitable' to the usability of 'evitable' are problematic unless one is talking to elaborately educated native English speakers, who will decode it in a few milliseconds even if they are not familiar with it. (Both 'evitabile' and 'inevitabile' are current in Italian.) snip This is correct for those of European decent, education, etc. However, many people of Asian decent or whose native language is not of Romance origin (Hebrew, Arabic, etc.) have none of the context or background mentioned above by you. There are many talented people in their home countries, the US and Europe whose language background is non-Romance. Take it easy on them. They deserve the information as much as everyone else on this list. Sam John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
Yes, you did write large/obscure. You diligently reread your post until you came to the word that proved me wrong. But you should have continued reading the next paragraph in order also to be thorough, since there you also this: And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. That is the big to which I referred. If I had meant to quote your use of large, I would have precisely written large instead of big. Perhaps a machine-executed find-character-string for big would in general be more precise than an ocular scan of the text which terminates on any shade of synonymity rather than only on an exact match. A naïf is a naïve or inexperienced person..., [an] innocent - a person who lacks knowledge of evil, [1] a fitting description for a novice at multitasking. :-) You chose to assume Mr. Gilmore meant naïve as an insult; I chose to assume he meant inexperienced. If one goes looking for insults, one can usually find them. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software [1] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/naif -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:04 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH ætat, having only five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as big, and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge of Latin roots, as was lacunae, also not a big word. Speaking of precision, I said large/obscure, not big. Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. These two words are not synonymous. Never said that they were. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. But, a naif is a naive person. So, calling somebody a naif is saying they are naive. So, by rephrasing, I did nothing wrong as to precision. And, I never said they were synonyms. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: USS umask in batch?
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 15:24:34 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: In my software I use bpx1opn and set the mode bits in a constant and it comes out just fine without worrying about umask. Grrr... Read what you quoted: apply to BPXBATCH. Maybe I need to just call umask from the program -- that just seems odd and poorly thought out, though. And might irritate the user who *wants* to control the umask; all I need is to understand how to control it, then I can tell them You're on yer own... The prevailing convention is for UNIX utilities to create directories and executables with permissions 777; other files 666, allowing the caller to reduce those permissions with umask. zMan is well-intentioned in wanting to follow those conventions. And if his code is script-like, calling standard utilities to create files, the only control of permissions of those files is umask. How about a Marketing Requirement for: //STEP EXEC PGM=whatever,UMASK=nnn ? No short-term help to zMan, of course. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On 11/1/2010 2:35 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote: Many repliers have emphasized clarity and precision. Although Mr. Gilmore's word choice is sometimes arcane and obscure, nevertheless his words under attack were not big or complex words; e.g., ætat, having only five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as big, and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge of Latin roots, as was lacunae, also not a big word. John's post did not include ætat, that I can see. Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. No. He said: They are radically naif., speaking of the OP's questions. These two words are not synonymous. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. No. He used naif as an adjective, and did not include the diaeresis. The Merriam-Webster online dictionary says: Definition of NAÏF: naive Variants of NAÏF na·ïf na·if If you take Mr. Gilmoreto task for lack of clarity and precision, then please be sure that your post is just as clear and precise as you wish his had been. A two-edged sword, indeed. Were it not for Mr. Gilmore's predilection for precise meanings, I would still be ignorant of the words antipode and boustrophedon (the latter of which is big, complex, and arcane, but amazingly precise). As I also do not have an OED on my shelf, he often drives me happily to an online English dictionary, into a word's etymology, and from thence to further French, Greek, Italian, or even Icelandic dabbling. I agree with you there. But for people looking for some technical information, or even a pointer to a document or other source, the digression is not necessarily the path they want to follow. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high of a level. What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate! If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault. It is the fault of the writer. And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. The calling of him naive was also insulting. Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him. If I had answers, I would have responded. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
You chose to assume Mr. Gilmore meant naïve as an insult; I chose to assume he meant inexperienced. Speaking of precision. Novice is inexperience. Naive is lack of understanding. If one goes looking for insults, one can usually find them. Naive is insulting; I didn't have to hunt for it. BTW, this is so far off topic, I see no reason to continue responding to this thread. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
John Gilmore wrote I remember going astray, ætat 4 or 5 in a later post on this now seriously OT thread. You're right about the OP's questions being radically naïf. I suffered a multi-bit memory check. My email editor inserts diaereses often without my knowing it, which is not always to my liking. The two-edged vorpal blade of pedantry has once again snacked me after snickering towards its intended target. BTW, I finally found an online definition of Rob Scott's words cromulent and embiggins. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 5:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH On 11/1/2010 2:35 PM, Bill Fairchild wrote: Many repliers have emphasized clarity and precision. Although Mr. Gilmore's word choice is sometimes arcane and obscure, nevertheless his words under attack were not big or complex words; e.g., ætat, having only five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as big, and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge of Latin roots, as was lacunae, also not a big word. John's post did not include ætat, that I can see. Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. No. He said: They are radically naif., speaking of the OP's questions. These two words are not synonymous. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. No. He used naif as an adjective, and did not include the diaeresis. The Merriam-Webster online dictionary says: Definition of NAÏF: naive Variants of NAÏF na·ïf na·if If you take Mr. Gilmoreto task for lack of clarity and precision, then please be sure that your post is just as clear and precise as you wish his had been. A two-edged sword, indeed. Were it not for Mr. Gilmore's predilection for precise meanings, I would still be ignorant of the words antipode and boustrophedon (the latter of which is big, complex, and arcane, but amazingly precise). As I also do not have an OED on my shelf, he often drives me happily to an online English dictionary, into a word's etymology, and from thence to further French, Greek, Italian, or even Icelandic dabbling. I agree with you there. But for people looking for some technical information, or even a pointer to a document or other source, the digression is not necessarily the path they want to follow. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 2:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ATTACH There's a lot to be said for vocabulary enhancement. Yes, but there is a lot to be said for communicating. I'm tired of hearing that everything must be written for a 5th grade level audience. There's a reason for that. Most people are lucky if they can read at that high of a level. What ever happened to 'look it up'? That's fine in the classroom;difficult in real life. The whole purpose of communicating is to communicate! If your reader doesn't understand you, through the uses/abuse of large/obscure words or complex phraseology, it is not the reader's fault. It is the fault of the writer. And, using those big words to answer the OP, did not solve the problem. The calling of him naive was also insulting. Just because somebody is a novice, is no reason to talk down to him. If I had answers, I would have responded. -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
At 20:35 + on 11/01/2010, Bill Fairchild wrote about Re: ATTACH: be sure that your post is just as clear and precise as you wish his had been. Were it not for Mr. Gilmore's predilection for precise meanings, I would still be ignorant of the words antipode and boustrophedon (the latter of which is big, complex, and arcane, but amazingly precise). For those who are wondering but do not want to look the words up, the former is opposite (usually geographically) - IOW: The opposite location on the Earth where you drive a vertical line through the center of the Earth. The latter refers to a style of writing where alternate lines are written from left to right and right to left (it is a reference to a method of plowing a field where when you reach the end of a row you turn around and plow the next row heading back to your starting location). This is an example of boustrophedon .ees nac uoy sa gnitirw I also have the impression that there were printers which speed up their print speed by printing alternate lines while returning the print head to the left. The actual text was thus sent to the print head in reverse order so it displayed normally. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
At 12:05 -0500 on 11/01/2010, Mike Schwab wrote about Re: ATTACH: I like the US-English-International Keyboard setting on Windows / Linux. Once you set this setting, when you type the first combineable character, it is not echoed to the screen until the next character is typed. If the combination is one character, the combined character will be sent, otherwise the two characters will be sent seperately. Type a blank after a combineable character to get just the combineable character. To combine the AE characters, you have to select a language that uses that set. On a Macintosh you type Option-' (that is hold the Option Key and type ') to get æ and Shift-Option-' (ie: Option-) to get Æ. On a Windows keyboard I think you can replace the Option with an ALT to get the same characters. There is also the option in windows to type the Unicode value with the numeric keyboard or using the Character Palette. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:56:12 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. No. He said: They are radically naif., speaking of the OP's questions. These two words are not synonymous. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. No. He used naif as an adjective, and did not include the diaeresis. The Merriam-Webster online dictionary says: Definition of NAÏF: naive Variants of NAÏF na·ïf na·if Pardon my French, but is this merely a distinction of gender (and typography)? Google tells me for: she is naive; he is naive qu'elle est naïve, il est naïf And no one has until now taken Mr. Gilmore to task for disingenuously (in my perception) pouncing upon Sam Siegel's typo. I suppose there must be a (self-appointed) enforcer of Muphry's Law. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:56:12 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: snip And no one has until now taken Mr. Gilmore to task for disingenuously (in my perception) pouncing upon Sam Siegel's typo. I suppose there must be a (self-appointed) enforcer of Muphry's Law. snip Thank you . I appreciate your acknowledgement of it. Sam -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
On 11/1/2010 6:31 PM, Sam Siegel wrote: On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Paul Gilmartinpaulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:56:12 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: snip And no one has until now taken Mr. Gilmore to task for disingenuously (in my perception) pouncing upon Sam Siegel's typo. I suppose there must be a (self-appointed) enforcer of Muphry's Law. snip Thank you . I appreciate your acknowledgement of it. Sam -- gil Well, folks, it's been fun. Let's kill this thread and get back to work, eh? -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
I will refrain from pouncing on Steve Comstock for misspelling 'Murphy'. He may well have done it disingenuously. I am grateful to those who defended my post, and I will venture a further comment. Too much attention was devoted to manner as opposed to matter in the posts that were critical of me. I made some observations about what about multitasking had been ignored in the posts preceding mine, and with one honorable exception that supplements what I said very usefully, the substance of what I said has been ignored in favor of discussions of my, it would seem, oversized vocabulary. On this and other occasions I have noted that those who have nothing of material interest to contribute often focus on manner instead of matter, presumably in order to have something to say; and this is a major problem: IBM-MAIN is beset by literal logorrhea. Much of what has been said in this thread is thus, predictably, nonsense. The French words 'naif' and naive' are, for example, both nouns/substantives and adjectives, masculine and feminine ones respectively. One can write/say both 'un garçon naïf' and 'un naïf', or 'une fille naïve' and 'une naïve'; and neither has any pejorative connotation absent from 'débutant' and 'débutante', the masculine and feminine forms of the French word for novice. Let's kill this thread or refocus it on multitasking per se. My vocabulary has been adequately canvassed. I shall not abridge it; and those who are distressed by it need not be; they have a simple remedy at hand: they can put my email address on their kill lists. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: The replication feature.
Yes, I know it and I support it. But be aware that I can not see the result of the READ_COUNT because I take control before the IO is really done to the real device. Shai On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 12:27 PM, Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net wrote: ---snip--- A few words on replication. The standard replication is sending CCWS to all controller which have mirrors disks. Sometime controller send data to other controller to sync the data between all of them. In this process each controller emulates the CCWS and by that create the same data as the source disk. In this case the search key is very easy to implement. MFNetDisk because of the slow media of TCP do something else. It is analyze the CCW in memory without accessing the source disk data. That is why it is hard to process the search key without access the data in the disk. After process the CCW it is decide what tracks need to be ReSync in the mirrors of the source disks. This process is complicate process especially for search key CCW. Using this processing, MFNetDisk never block the real disk but the minus is that this is ASync processing meaning that if there is crash in MF, the mirror may be not fully Sync with the source disk. the MFNetDisk replication can be good if you want to create Sync point or backup of the real disk in specific time where you can validate that the process of ReSync is done completely without updating the source disks for short time until the ReSync is totally over. This is called Sync Point where the mirrors is fully Sync with the real disk. About the MFNetDisk emulation. Each CCW is sent to the PC which access the data in the emulate disks and easily can process any CCW include serach key and all other CCWS. ---unsnip- Shai, it's entirely acceptyable to use a READ COUNT CCW before the SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL CCW. READ COUNT SEARCH KEY HIGH-OR-EQUAL TIC *-16 (Back to the READ COUNT READY DATA (or WRITE DATA, as needed) Rick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: New(ish) redbook on z196
The July copy was a draft version. The final version was published on 15th October. I suggest you download the final version. Terry Draper zSeries Performance Consultant w...@btopenworld.com mobile: +66 811431287 --- On Mon, 1/11/10, Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com wrote: From: Scott Rowe scott.r...@joann.com Subject: Re: New(ish) redbook on z196 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Monday, 1 November, 2010, 20:30 I don't know if it's been posted before, but I downloaded the pdf on 7/23. On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 2:55 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.comwrote: Sorry if I'm reposting something that was already posted. http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg247833.html?Open quote The zEnterprise System consists of the IBM zEnterprise 196 central processor complex, IBM zEnterprise Unified Resource Manager, and IBM zEnterprise BladeCenter(r) Extension. The z196 is designed with improved scalability, performance, security, resiliency, availability, and virtualization. The z196 Model M80 provides up to 1.6 times the total system capacity of the z10 EC Model E64, and all z196 models provide up to twice the available memory of the z10 EC. The zBX infrastructure works with the z196 to enhance System z virtualization and management through an integrated hardware platform that spans mainframe and POWER7 technologies. Through the Unified Resource Manager, the zEnterprise System is managed as a single pool of resources, integrating system and workload management across the environment. This book provides an overview of the zEnterprise System and its functions, features, and associated software support. Greater detail is offered in areas relevant to technical planning. This book is intended for systems engineers, consultants, planners, and anyone wanting to understand the zEnterprise System functions and plan for their usage. It is not intended as an introduction to mainframes. Readers are expected to be generally familiar with existing IBM System z technology and terminology. /quote John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html CONFIDENTIALITY/EMAIL NOTICE: The material in this transmission contains confidential and privileged information intended only for the addressee. If you are not the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this material in error and that any forwarding, copying, printing, distribution, use or disclosure of the material is strictly prohibited. If you have received this material in error, please (i) do not read it, (ii) reply to the sender that you received the message in error, and (iii) erase or destroy the material. Emails are not secure and can be intercepted, amended, lost or destroyed, or contain viruses. You are deemed to have accepted these risks if you communicate with us by email. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any one have a solution for this
Jim, Technically, this is not a problem. If you had real physical tapes, then the data would be available until the tape was overwritten. Several VTS vendors provide this feature for compatibility purposes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ATTACH
I will refrain from pouncing on Bill Fairchild for the redundancy of from thence. Doh! ;-) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:35:48 + From: bi...@mainstar.com Subject: Re: ATTACH To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Many repliers have emphasized clarity and precision. Although Mr. Gilmore's word choice is sometimes arcane and obscure, nevertheless his words under attack were not big or complex words; e.g., ætat, having only five letters, cannot possibly be characterized as big, and its meaning is instantly obvious given a knowledge of Latin roots, as was lacunae, also not a big word. Nor did he describe the OP as naïve. He said that the OP was a naïf. These two words are not synonymous. Naïve is an adjective and naïf is a noun, as he used it. If you take Mr. Gilmore to task for lack of clarity and precision, then please be sure that your post is just as clear and precise as you wish his had been. Were it not for Mr. Gilmore's predilection for precise meanings, I would still be ignorant of the words antipode and boustrophedon (the latter of which is big, complex, and arcane, but amazingly precise). As I also do not have an OED on my shelf, he often drives me h! appily to an online English dictionary, into a word's etymology, and from thence to further French, Greek, Italian, or even Icelandic dabbling. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any one have a solution for this
On Mon, 1 Nov 2010 16:33:32 -0500, Petersen, Jim wrote: We are using Data Domain for VTL. What we have found is that even though a tape goes scratch in our Tape Library Manager, the space is still in use for that Scratch Tape on the Data Domain. Has anyone else experienced this problem and how did you solve it? ___ The clean process is intended to free up and reorg (defrag ?) the disk. Are you running that ??? The default is for it to run weekly on Tuesday mornings; try command filesys clean status to find the last date it completed. The devices don't allow tapes to go scratch until a specified amount of time has elapsed since creation. Ours is set to 10 days. I think the default is 5 days. I'm not sure how to check that. It might be retention lock in the filesys command set, but you'll have to look that one up. Are you sending your scratch list to the VTL ??? I'm told you should send the complete list, but I filter ours. It takes a while to push a couple hundred thousand VOL=SERs through, so I only send the tapes that aren't already in the scratch pool file. Those are the only things that come to mind at the moment. Good Luck. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
