Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Edward Finnell
There are several good references. watsonwalker.com, SHARE, CMG and  
Performance Associates.
I've always enjoyed Dr. H Pat's observations.
 
http://researchr.org/alias/h.-pat-artis
 
The IBM LSPR numbers are a good starting point if you have an idea of where 
 you're going. You need to be cognizant of the Z13 design for thruput. Harv 
Emery  points out in his SHARE presentations of the dual pathing and other 
improvements  for the Z13.
 
 Tuning and Capacity planning are a life's endeavor. If you need help  your 
local branch can provide assistance or will do planning recommendations.  
Depending on how much you need, they'll start to charge after a point based 
on  your current licensing agreement.
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2016 11:57:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za writes:

What are  you trying to solve? Rather consider Service Units.

You got good  replies about calculation methods and cautions about what 
MIPS is  really.



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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 12:19:53 +0530, venkat kulkarni wrote:
>
>So, we have requirement of sending and receiving files of mainframe and
>windows as well as Unix systems.
>So, we need to setup JCL in z/os system in such a way the one JCL will be
>used for sending data can be sequential or PDs datasets to Windows
>mainframe or receiving file from Windows system using sftp rather then ftp.
> 
It appears that you want the driving system (client) to be z/OS
and the passive system (server) to be Windows.  What sort of
server do you have available on Windows?  (I used to be able to
do this sort of thing with a Cygin server on Windows.  The
ability vanished a few weeks ago.  I suspect the Powers That
Be spread a security blanket and my desktop Windows system
can no longer open any ports.  I'm not asking any questions
that might draw attention.)

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 23:37:24 -0700, Jack J. Woehr wrote:

>Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>> But must it be JCL?  Why not a UNIX shell script or Rexx, putting you a
>> couple interface layers closer to what you need to do.
>
>CMS/TSO Pipelines?
> 
How prevalent is CMS/TSO Pipelines in z/OS?

Does it have an SFTP stage

Does it have a z/OS UNIX command stage?  (And has it a CMS
OpenExtensions command stage?)

Does it have drivers for POSIX pipes?

Does it have a separate Users Guide for TSO or does a
single manual serve for both CMS and TSO?

I've sometimes used POSIX pipes for IEBGENER input/output.

Is the OP seeking a production quality utility or a personal tool?

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread venkat kulkarni
Thanks for reply.

So, we have requirement of sending and receiving files of mainframe and
windows as well as Unix systems.
So, we need to setup JCL in z/os system in such a way the one JCL will be
used for sending data can be sequential or PDs datasets to Windows
mainframe or receiving file from Windows system using sftp rather then ftp.

On Dec 1, 2016 09:29, "Paul Gilmartin" <
000433f07816-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote:

On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:44:42 +0530, venkat kulkarni wrote:

>Do anybody have sample batch job to transfer data using sftp.
>
>Currently we using FTP in batch job PGM but not sure what program we should
>use for sftp and format of JCL to transfer  sequential and PDs datasets.
>
SFTP won't deal with PS and PDS data sets.  For that, you'd need
Dovetailed's
Co:Z, free to use, $ for support.

At times, I have kludged a pipeline of:

cp "//'PDS.NAME(MEMBER)'" /dev/fd/1 |
ssh user@remote-host "
cat >target-file"
(Authentication via ~/.sh)

What sorts of systems have you
o At the controlling end?
o At the passive end?

JCL?  Look into BPXWUNIX.  (Can BPXWUNIX be executed from a JCL step
or is a Rexx layer needed?)

But must it be JCL?  Why not a UNIX shell script or Rexx, putting you a
couple interface layers closer to what you need to do.

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread Jack J. Woehr

Paul Gilmartin wrote:

But must it be JCL?  Why not a UNIX shell script or Rexx, putting you a
couple interface layers closer to what you need to do.


CMS/TSO Pipelines?

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 1 Dec 2016 10:44:42 +0530, venkat kulkarni wrote:

>Do anybody have sample batch job to transfer data using sftp.
>
>Currently we using FTP in batch job PGM but not sure what program we should
>use for sftp and format of JCL to transfer  sequential and PDs datasets.
> 
SFTP won't deal with PS and PDS data sets.  For that, you'd need Dovetailed's
Co:Z, free to use, $ for support.

At times, I have kludged a pipeline of:

cp "//'PDS.NAME(MEMBER)'" /dev/fd/1 |
ssh user@remote-host "
cat >target-file"
(Authentication via ~/.sh)

What sorts of systems have you
o At the controlling end?
o At the passive end?

JCL?  Look into BPXWUNIX.  (Can BPXWUNIX be executed from a JCL step
or is a Rexx layer needed?)

But must it be JCL?  Why not a UNIX shell script or Rexx, putting you a
couple interface layers closer to what you need to do.

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread venkat kulkarni
Hello David, yes I am aware that sftp process only Unix files but I heard
that we have other of transferring traditional mvs dataset like we can
first transfer mvs dataset to omvs and then do sftp.

But I never did this before, so I am requesting to help on sample JCL.

On Dec 1, 2016 09:13, "David Crayford"  wrote:

> On 1/12/2016 1:14 PM, venkat kulkarni wrote:
>
>> Do anybody have sample batch job to transfer data using sftp.
>>
>> Currently we using FTP in batch job PGM but not sure what program we
>> should
>> use for sftp and format of JCL to transfer  sequential and PDs datasets.
>>
>
> sftp only supports UNIX files so you're out of luck if you want to process
> traditional MVS data sets (as mentioned in a previous thread).
>
> Thnaks
>>
>> On Nov 29, 2016 09:51, "Jack J. Woehr"  wrote:
>>
>> David Crayford wrote:
>>
>> Yep. It's part of Rockets ported tools http://www.rocketsoftware.com/
>>> ported-tools.
>>>
>>> Very cool, had no idea they were there.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread David Crayford

On 1/12/2016 1:14 PM, venkat kulkarni wrote:

Do anybody have sample batch job to transfer data using sftp.

Currently we using FTP in batch job PGM but not sure what program we should
use for sftp and format of JCL to transfer  sequential and PDs datasets.


sftp only supports UNIX files so you're out of luck if you want to 
process traditional MVS data sets (as mentioned in a previous thread).



Thnaks

On Nov 29, 2016 09:51, "Jack J. Woehr"  wrote:

David Crayford wrote:


Yep. It's part of Rockets ported tools http://www.rocketsoftware.com/
ported-tools.


Very cool, had no idea they were there.




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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Carlos Cordero wrote:

>Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of 
>data-source and volumes estimation:

What are you trying to solve? Rather consider Service Units.

You got good replies about calculation methods and cautions about what MIPS is 
really.

Just one fact to remember: Volume has NOTHING to do with MIPS, unless some 
software compression and/or record manipulation is used.


>Data Type: SMF
>Records procesed: X million
>Avg CPU per record:  .0xy seconds

By whom? SMF dump? Report generation? Resource usage billing?

The same goes for SYSLOG and SYSOUT.

Who or what is generating it? JES2? Programs in Jobs themselves or some Abend 
routine spewing out dumps?

As Lizette said, you can use IEBGENER to copy SYSLOG on whatever CEC. Or you 
can use ICEGENER or other utility to do that. But then there is also overhead 
to take in account like startup overhead, preparing for possible abends, 
paging, etc.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: TSO Setup on SSH

2016-11-30 Thread venkat kulkarni
Do anybody have sample batch job to transfer data using sftp.

Currently we using FTP in batch job PGM but not sure what program we should
use for sftp and format of JCL to transfer  sequential and PDs datasets.

Thnaks

On Nov 29, 2016 09:51, "Jack J. Woehr"  wrote:

David Crayford wrote:

> Yep. It's part of Rockets ported tools http://www.rocketsoftware.com/
> ported-tools.
>

Very cool, had no idea they were there.


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Re: Apache Virtual Server Setup

2016-11-30 Thread Neubert, Kevin
Assuming the latter, but is this Apache HTTP Server 2.2 or 2.4?  If it is the 
prior, don't believe your require directives would be honored.  See Order 
allow,deny and Allow from all.

Regards,

Kevin

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Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Server Setup

I believe my problem now stems from the default statements provided with the 
webserver.  See below, these statements come before my virtual server 
statements.  


   Options FollowSymLinks - this is the original ibm setup. 
 
AllowOverride None   
FileETag All -INode 

   Require all denied - this is the original ibm setup  
 

The error message in the logs files is:  AH01630: client denied by server 
configuration: /etc/websrv1/' 

The browser message is: 

You don't have permission to access / on this server.
IBM_HTTP_Server Server at test1 Port 80

It seems the ' Require all granted'  in the virtual server statement maybe are 
not being recognized.  
 
# START Virtual host 1

ServerName MVSTEST1.li.pch.com   
   DocumentRoot /etc/websrv1/PCHshare/   
   DirectoryIndex welcome.html   
   
   
 Require all granted 
   
#  
# START Virtual host 2 
 
   ServerName MVSTEST2.li.pch.com 
   DocumentRoot /etc/websrv1/
   DirectoryIndex welcome.html   
   
   
 Require all granted 
 
#

Any help is appreciated with these directives, thanks Matt


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No DocumentRoot in your VirtualHost?


   DocumentRoot /etc/websrv1/PCHshare
   DirectoryIndex welcome.html



   # Access/Options Here


Regards,

Kevin

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Subject: Apache Virtual Server Setup

I am trying to setup a virtual server on zos 2.2 apache http server. My intent 
is to have anyone coming in on ip 12.1.1.12:80  to be directed to a welcome 
page html. But I keep getting the access error below. I have tried many, many 
different directive variations but no luck. Any examples or assistance is 
appreciated. Thanks Matt

If this is not the correct forum for this please let me know. tks

# START Virtual Server 1 statements.

#

DirectoryIndex welcome.html

Require all granted

 
 
#

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.
IBM_HTTP_Server Server at 27.1.39.74 Port 80

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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Edward Finnell
Lots of knobs from end user to listserv profile. .txt is a common DOS  
extension for character data. I think attachments are scanned for graphics as  
are normal messages and rejected. The max size of a message is 500 lines  
including attachments(subject to change). Easier to post a link to a video than 
 gumming up the works with attachments.
 
Al's Realloc clist and $Realloc doc came thru as a zip and was able to  
extract both to Windows and view successfully. Didn't try to upload.
 
 
In a message dated 11/30/2016 5:33:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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What  does ".txt" mean?  May I attach a video as long as I rename it to  
"*.txt"?

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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:54 PM, John McKown
 wrote:
> --
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>
> Unicode: http://xkcd.com/1726/
>
> Maranatha! <><
> John McKown
>
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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Myers

OK, thanks for that info.

Mike

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Attachments are permitted for .txt.
  
  
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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 17:25:54 -0500, Edward Finnell wrote:

>Attachments are permitted for .txt.
>
What Content-Transfer-Encodings?  8bit?  Quoted-Printable?  Base64?

What does ".txt" mean?  May I attach a video as long as I rename it to "*.txt"?

There must be a size limit.  Not much video.

And, to Ed Gould's likely dismay, I see that the "Charset:" option suppports
no EBCDIC code pages.  Have to convert them to UTF-8.

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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Nims,Alva John (Al)
I use the attached CLIST to change the concatenations of any of the DDNAMEs, 
except for STEPLIB.  I use an main CLIST that is invoked at login time to add 
to several of the pre-Allocated DDNAMEs and create a few.  The $Realloc.txt is 
some simple documentation I found for the CLIST.

Al Nims
Systems Admin/Programmer 3
UFIT
University of Florida
(352) 273-1298

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PROC 1 DS FIRST LAST ADD REPLACE NOLIST LIST NOPROMPT PROMPT SHR OLD -
   HELP DELETE DDNAME(SYSPROC) DISP(SHR) DEBUG NOERROR
CONTROL NOFLUSH
IF  = HELP OR  = HELP THEN DO
   HELP REALLOC
   EXIT CODE(0)
   END
IF  = OLD THEN SET DISP = OLD
IF  = PROMPT THEN DO
   SET LIST = LIST
   ISPEXEC CONTROL DISPLAY LINE
   END
IF  = LIST THEN CONTROL LIST NOFLUSH
SET SYSOUTTRAP = 1000
LISTA ST
SET SYSOUTTRAP = 0
SET FOUND = NO
SET DSFOUND = NO
SET CONCAT = ()
SET PREF = 
SET PREFL = (())
IF (1:1,) = ' THEN SET DS1 = 
ELSE IF  = THEN SET DS1 = ''
ELSE SET DS1 = ''
SET I = 1
DO WHILE () = NO AND  >= 
   SET DDN = &
   IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DDN IS 
   IF (()) > 9 THEN -
  IF ((2:10,)) = ( ) THEN DO
 SET FOUND = YES
 SET I =  - 1
 SET DSN = &
 IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
 IF  = LIST THEN WRITE  ALLOCATION IS
 IF  = LIST THEN WRITE''
 SET DS2 = ''
 IF () >  THEN -
IF (1:,) = () THEN DO
   SET DSN = ((+1):(),)
   IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
   END
ELSE DO
   SET DSN = ''
   IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
   END
 ELSE DO
SET DSN = ''
IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
END
 IF  = AND  ^=  THEN SET CONCAT = 
 IF  =  THEN SET DSFOUND = YES
 END
  ELSE SET I =  + 1
   ELSE SET I =  + 1
   END
IF  = YES THEN DO
   DO WHILE (+3) <= 
  SET I =  + 3
  SET DDN = &
  IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DDN IS 
  IF ((1:3,)) = () THEN DO
 IF  = REPLACE AND  = LAST THEN -
SET CONCAT = ( ')'
 SET I =  - 1
 SET DSN = &
 IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
 IF  = LIST THEN WRITE''
 SET DS2 = ''
 IF () >  THEN -
IF (1:,) = () THEN DO
   SET DSN = ((+1):(),)
   IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
   END
ELSE DO
   SET DSN = ''
   IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
   END
 ELSE DO
SET DSN = ''
IF  = DEBUG THEN WRITE DEBUG DSN IS 
END
 IF  = OR  = THEN -
IF  ^=  THEN SET CONCAT =  
 IF  =  THEN SET DSFOUND = YES
 END
  ELSE SET I = 
  END
   END
ELSE DO
   IF  = LIST THEN WRITE  IS NOT ALLOCATED.
   END
IF  = LIST THEN DO
   IF  = DELETE THEN DO
  IF  = YES THEN WRITE  WILL BE DELETED FROM THE LIST.
  END
   ELSE IF  = REPLACE THEN DO
  IF  = LAST THEN WRITE THE LAST DATASET WILL BE REPLACED BY 
  ELSE WRITE THE FIRST DATASET WILL BE REPLACED BY 
  END
   ELSE DO
  IF  = LAST THEN WRITE  WILL BE ADDED TO THE END OF THIS LIST.
  ELSE WRITE  WILL BE ADDED TO THE TOP OF THIS LIST.
  END
   END
IF  = DELETE THEN DO
   IF  = NO THEN DO
  IF  ^= NOERROR THEN +
 WRITE DATASET  WAS NOT FOUND IN  ALLOCATION.
  EXIT CODE(4)
  END
   SET CONCAT2 = 
   END
ELSE IF  = LAST THEN SET CONCAT2 =  
ELSE SET CONCAT2 =  
IF  = PROMPT THEN DO
   WRITE ALLOCATION WILL BE CHANGED WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMAND:
   IF  = THEN WRITEFREE FI()
   ELSE WRITEALLOC FI() DS() 
   WRITENR ENTER YES TO EXECUTE THIS COMMAND ===>
   READ
   IF  ^= YES THEN EXIT CODE(0)
   END
IF  = THEN FREE FI()
ELSE ALLOC FI() DS()  REUSE
SET RC = 
IF  ^= 0 THEN DO
   WRITE ALLOCATION FAILED, RETURN CODE 
   IF  = PROMPT THEN DO
  WRITE ALLOCATION WILL BE CHANGED WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMAND:
  WRITEALLOC FI() DS() 
  WRITENR ENTER YES TO EXECUTE THIS COMMAND ===>
  READ
  IF  ^= YES THEN EXIT CODE(0)
  END
   ALLOC FI() DS()  REUSE
   SET RC = 
   END
EXIT 

Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Edward Finnell
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Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ? And X11 etc.

2016-11-30 Thread R.S.

My €0.02:
This is Rube Goldberg. There are ways to achieve the same goal but with 
slightly changed *not important* requirements.


IMHO the simplest way to keep and share files on mainframe is to use 
DFS/SMB - just map Windows network drive. Actually you can use WIndows, 
Mac, LInux. You can share same filesystem using NFS.

There is GUI for that, although not web based.
There is no encryption on LAN, but who connects to mainframe from 
insecure network? Same network infrastructure is being used for other 
activities and probably it's not "end to end" encrypted.

Oh, there are methods to encrypt the connection.

Of course there is no problem with writing a clone of dropbox, ...except 
time and money, but not everyone needs Rube Goldberg machine to do 
simple things.



(dislaimer: no offence intended, I criticized the idea, not any person)


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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Jesse 1 Robinson 
wrote:

> The insatiable hunger for MIPS comes mainly from the non-mainframe world.
> IBM uses MSU ratings for mainframes of all sizes, but folks who want to
> compare other hardware can only speak MIPS. So there are various charts
> available from various sources to make sense of apples and oranges. You get
> to pick your source and run with it. ;-(
>

​IMO, there are only two really useful questions which can be asked: "How
long until I get my answer?" and "How much will it cost me?". But those are
way too difficult to answer in a generic sense.​



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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Gerhard Adam
Most MIPS charts are expensive spreadsheets that simply duplicate what is
already available from the IBM LSPR.

Unless the provider of such a chart is running their own benchmarks, they
are largely nonsense.

Adam

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Subject: Re: MIPS Calculation formula

Along those lines, here are a couple of links I found using an internet for
IBM Calculating MIPs and Service Units

It would also help to understand what you are trying to do with MIPS.



https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/5ZIiozkVWZs

http://ibmmainframes.com/about42940.html


You may want to look more at Service Units or normalized reporting.

I can run an IEBGENER to Print a SYSLOG file with 10,000,000 lines.  My MIPS
or SUs may vary across each iterating.  If I change the CEC, it may change
again, if I have more CPs or less, it may change again.  It can be difficult
to get a repeatable report of MIPs.

http://www.ibmmainframeforum.com/all-other-tools/topic1988.html 

Postby Bill Dennis > Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:19 am

The MIPS rating is based on processor type and Operating System. Performance
guru Cheryl Watson offers several charts at
http://www.watsonwalker.com/chart.html
I'm not sure why you care about CPU MIPS rating because chargeback is
usually by CPU time or Service Units used. Your job will run in less time on
a faster CPU but the chargeback per second is usually more. 

Likewise, fewer Service Units are used on a faster CPU.
So, knowing what you are trying to report would be helpful.

Also, this may help.  This is a specific product, but the terms and concepts
may help (or not)

http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SS8CCV_7.5.1/com.ibm.mams.doc/adm
inis
tering_tamit/c_capacity_units.html



Lizette


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> On Behalf Of Greg Dyck
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: MIPS Calculation formula
> 
> > Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind 
> > of data-
> source and volumes estimation:
> 
> Keep in mind that MIPS stands for "Meaningless Indicator of Processor 
> Speed"... long used, usually misunderstood, and often abused.  On a 
> current processor I can write one program that executes x million 
> instructions in a second, and another that executes 5x million
instructions in a second.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg
> 

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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
The insatiable hunger for MIPS comes mainly from the non-mainframe world. IBM 
uses MSU ratings for mainframes of all sizes, but folks who want to compare 
other hardware can only speak MIPS. So there are various charts available from 
various sources to make sense of apples and oranges. You get to pick your 
source and run with it. ;-(

.
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Lizette Koehler
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:09 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: MIPS Calculation formula

Along those lines, here are a couple of links I found using an internet for IBM 
Calculating MIPs and Service Units

It would also help to understand what you are trying to do with MIPS.



https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/5ZIiozkVWZs

http://ibmmainframes.com/about42940.html


You may want to look more at Service Units or normalized reporting.

I can run an IEBGENER to Print a SYSLOG file with 10,000,000 lines.  My MIPS or 
SUs may vary across each iterating.  If I change the CEC, it may change again, 
if I have more CPs or less, it may change again.  It can be difficult to get a 
repeatable report of MIPs.

http://www.ibmmainframeforum.com/all-other-tools/topic1988.html 

Postby Bill Dennis > Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:19 am

The MIPS rating is based on processor type and Operating System. Performance 
guru Cheryl Watson offers several charts at 
http://www.watsonwalker.com/chart.html
I'm not sure why you care about CPU MIPS rating because chargeback is usually 
by CPU time or Service Units used. Your job will run in less time on a faster 
CPU but the chargeback per second is usually more. 

Likewise, fewer Service Units are used on a faster CPU.
So, knowing what you are trying to report would be helpful.

Also, this may help.  This is a specific product, but the terms and concepts 
may help (or not)

http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SS8CCV_7.5.1/com.ibm.mams.doc/adminis
tering_tamit/c_capacity_units.html



Lizette


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> On Behalf Of Greg Dyck
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: MIPS Calculation formula
> 
> > Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind 
> > of data-
> source and volumes estimation:
> 
> Keep in mind that MIPS stands for "Meaningless Indicator of Processor 
> Speed"... long used, usually misunderstood, and often abused.  On a 
> current processor I can write one program that executes x million 
> instructions in a second, and another that executes 5x million instructions 
> in a second.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg

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Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ? And X11 etc.

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:52:31 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:24:52 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:
>
>>None of these has a user web interface, although a web front end to any
>>could be developed.
>>
>This becomes more complicated if there is a requirement to support cients
>on both z/OS and desktops.
>
>Hmmm.  I found a WWW client in Java called Lobo.  I tried it on a desktop
>where it sucked so badly there was no point in trying it on z/OS.  No
>recent updates.
> 
Well, I wrote before I fact-checked.  Lobo has spawned Lobo Evolution,
updated last week.  Firefox tells me I shouldn't trust SourceForge, so I 
circumvented with curl.

On Windows it still sucks.

On z/OS:

Exception in thread "main" java.awt.HeadlessException: 
No X11 DISPLAY variable was set, but this program performed an operation which 
requires it.
at 
java.awt.GraphicsEnvironment.checkHeadless(GraphicsEnvironment.java:217)


I used to have X11, but that was before ssh tunneling.  I can't make a business 
case for
fixing it here.  Does it work generally?

Wild idea:  Could an enhanced x3270 set up an X11 tunnel at connection?  Could 
DISPLAY
be set outside OMVS, even in a tagged address space?  Then X11 apps could be 
started
from a 3270 session.

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Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Kirk Wolf
Thanks David,

I wasn't really thinking of Tomcat + JspWiki as a solution for this, but
perhaps I still don't understand Lionel's requirement.

FWIW:  We just released an updated port of our free "T:Z QuickStart for
Tomcat" package  (a z/OS-friendly packaging and installer for Apache
Tomcat).

-- It now supports Java 7,8 and Tomcat 8.5

https://www.dovetail.com/products/tomcat.html
https://www.dovetail.com/downloads/tomcat/index.html


Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Jousma, David  wrote:

> Well, its overkill, but you could download/install Dovetails ported copy
> of TOMCAT/Wiki.   Create pages, secure them to your self, attach files, all
> done via browser.  I'm surprised Kirk didn’t suggest that.
>
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>
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
>
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) <
> lionel.d...@va.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Btw. open source is fine
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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Along those lines, here are a couple of links I found using an internet for
IBM Calculating MIPs and Service Units

It would also help to understand what you are trying to do with MIPS.



https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/5ZIiozkVWZs

http://ibmmainframes.com/about42940.html


You may want to look more at Service Units or normalized reporting.

I can run an IEBGENER to Print a SYSLOG file with 10,000,000 lines.  My MIPS or
SUs may vary across each iterating.  If I change the CEC, it may change again,
if I have more CPs or less, it may change again.  It can be difficult to get a
repeatable report of MIPs.

http://www.ibmmainframeforum.com/all-other-tools/topic1988.html 

Postby Bill Dennis > Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:19 am

The MIPS rating is based on processor type and Operating System. Performance
guru Cheryl Watson offers several charts at
http://www.watsonwalker.com/chart.html 
I'm not sure why you care about CPU MIPS rating because chargeback is usually by
CPU time or Service Units used. Your job will run in less time on a faster CPU
but the chargeback per second is usually more. 

Likewise, fewer Service Units are used on a faster CPU.
So, knowing what you are trying to report would be helpful.

Also, this may help.  This is a specific product, but the terms and concepts may
help (or not)

http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SS8CCV_7.5.1/com.ibm.mams.doc/adminis
tering_tamit/c_capacity_units.html



Lizette


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> Behalf Of Greg Dyck
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:54 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: MIPS Calculation formula
> 
> > Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of data-
> source and volumes estimation:
> 
> Keep in mind that MIPS stands for "Meaningless Indicator of Processor
> Speed"... long used, usually misunderstood, and often abused.  On a current
> processor I can write one program that executes x million instructions in a
> second, and another that executes 5x million instructions in a second.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg
> 

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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Steely.Mark
Thanks to everyone that replied:  I think the best solution for my needs was 
CONCAT from CBT File 831. 

I had fun trying out all the options suggested.

Thanks again


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Re: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management product integration

2016-11-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
As I discussed previously on IBM-Main, I've played a bit with ABO. Some 
observations:

-- The more CPU-intensive the program, the more it will benefit from ABO. Heavy 
I/O hitters not so much. 

-- There is virtually no overhead in an ABO-optimized program. I've some folks 
use the term 'dynamic' for an ABO environment. ABO 'digests' an existing load 
module and saves the new version in a separate location. At execution time, 
there is no additional run-time setup or preparation. 

-- I've not heard of any incorporation of ABO into the standard source/load 
management products like Endevor or Panvalet or ISPW. 

-- Probably the biggest advantage of ABO is that the run-time library may be PO 
or library depending on the code. COBOL V5/V6 requires library (PDSE), which 
may impact a shop's migration and sharing practices. 

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:46 AM
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management product integration

Sorry, my mind wandered when responding.

A quick search on the internet gives a lot of info

This thread maybe helpful

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/fh1g4n7f5_Q

From within this thread

ABO is going to make a V3/V4 program faster, in general, because it has access 
to ARCH(up-to-10), in your case, instructions which the V3/V4 compiler does not 
have access to. 

It is also able to use some optimization techniques not available with OPT in 
V3/V4 (learning for the optimizations in V5, which in turn learned from 
optimizations for Java). 

A program may be "flat" (before = after) but that would seem fairly unlikely, 
and any such program would likely not be a CPU heavy-hitter. 

Caveat. It would be possible that the ABO has initial "overhead" larger than 
the original program that affects CALLed programs. I don't know. Not seen it. 
Just sayin'.


https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/invisiblethread/entry/Give_your_COBOL_applications_A_BOost_with_the_flip_of_a_switch?lang=en


As far as I know you run your program through ABO process which can reduce the 
need to recompile with V5 and above Cobol and you can get some benefits.

Lizette


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> management product integration
> 
> Is this the product you are referring to?  If not, could you provide 
> more details?
> 
> IBM Automatic Binary Optimizer (ABO) for z/OS
> 
> If it is, you should search the IBMMAIN Archives for all of the 
> discussions of ABO.
> 
> It allows PRE Cobol V5 MODULES a way to run with some of the 
> optimizations provided by V5 Cobol and above.
> 
> Not sure what you would need a tool to integrate it with CA-Endevor.
> 
> 
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
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> > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Holst, Jeffrey A
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:00 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software 
> > management product integration
> >
> > A few months ago, I recall seeing something during a web search 
> > about integrating ABO with an application software management 
> > product like
> > CA- Endevor. For some reason, I think it was from Marist college.
> >
> > I thought I had downloaded it, but either I did not or I deleted it.
> > There may be a new interest in ABO, and I would like to be ready 
> > with this if I could find it again. I did a search this afternoon 
> > and did not see anything. Has anyone done anything like this or know 
> > where I can
> find such a document?
> >
> > Jeffrey Holst
> > Systems Administator Senior
> > Technology and Operations, Shared Services PNC Bank
> > (614) 856-5443


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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Or you can create a standalone ALLOC you do once in ISPF.  Use LIBDEFs and 
ALTLIB in it.  Then so long as you remain in that session, you have what you 
need.

When you logoff the ALTLIB and LIBDEFs go away.

Note:  Some products do not use the ALTLIB.  You need to validate what you are 
doing can handle ALTLIB and LIBDEFs.

Enter ISPF, on the command line execute your Allocation REXX/CLIST for your 
LIBDEFs or ALTLIBs, work in that ISPF Session (if you split screen, execute 
your allocation REXX/CLIST again).  Should be good for the life or your ISPF 
environment.  Con:  If you execute another application that does its owns 
LIBDEFs/ALTLIBs may cause interesting issues.

One shop I was in had an ISPF Logon Clist.  It looked for a specific dataset 
name with a member called ALLOCME - when it was found that was executed and 
re-ordered your TSO logon Datasets putting the user files first.  Then it took 
you into ISPF



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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:47 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: concat
> 
> ALTLIB can be used within an application to change the search list for
> Rexx/CLIST but only for the duration of that application. In order to change
> the library concatenation for the life of a session, a (re)concatenation of
> (SYSPROC/SYSEXEC) must be performed at TSO Ready before entering PDF. That new
> concatenation remains effective until logoff or until another reconcatenation
> occurs at TSO Ready.
> 
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> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:04 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: (External):Re: concat
> 
> you can use ALTLIB tso command. It changes the rexx / clist search order by
> placing a user library(ies) in front of sSYSPROC / SYSEXEC.
> 
> ITschak
> 
> ITschak Mugzach
> Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional
> 
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Sri h Kolusu  wrote:
> 
> > Mark,
> >
> > Issue the command TSO ISRDDN;SAVE and it will give you the current
> > allocation list which can be edited, you can add your desired
> > libraries to that clist. It is saved as Userid.ISRDDN.CLIST
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Kolusu
> >
> > IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
> > 11/30/2016 09:19:50 AM:
> >
> > > From: "Steely.Mark" 
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Date: 11/30/2016 09:20 AM
> > > Subject: concat
> > > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> > >
> > > Would anyone be able to provide a way to concatenate a library to
> > > the SYSPROC allocation.
> > >
> > > I have tried the concat program from the CBT tape file 134 that
> > > abend with a S0c4.
> > > I have tried a rexx exec called ALLOCREX. This sort of works ( it
> > > adds my ds to SYSPROC) but does not keep the same setup of SYSPROC
> > > before the addition.
> > > I have tried clist SPROC from IBM but for some reason it is not working.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone have something they can share for z/os V2.2.
> > >
> > > Thanks

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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Greg Dyck

Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of 
data-source and volumes estimation:


Keep in mind that MIPS stands for "Meaningless Indicator of Processor 
Speed"... long used, usually misunderstood, and often abused.  On a 
current processor I can write one program that executes x million 
instructions in a second, and another that executes 5x million 
instructions in a second.


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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Jesse 1 Robinson
ALTLIB can be used within an application to change the search list for 
Rexx/CLIST but only for the duration of that application. In order to change 
the library concatenation for the life of a session, a (re)concatenation of 
(SYSPROC/SYSEXEC) must be performed at TSO Ready before entering PDF. That new 
concatenation remains effective until logoff or until another reconcatenation 
occurs at TSO Ready.

.
.
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-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Itschak Mugzach
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:04 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: (External):Re: concat

you can use ALTLIB tso command. It changes the rexx / clist search order by 
placing a user library(ies) in front of sSYSPROC / SYSEXEC.

ITschak

ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Sri h Kolusu  wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Issue the command TSO ISRDDN;SAVE and it will give you the current 
> allocation list which can be edited, you can add your desired 
> libraries to that clist. It is saved as Userid.ISRDDN.CLIST
>
> Thanks,
> Kolusu
>
> IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
> 11/30/2016 09:19:50 AM:
>
> > From: "Steely.Mark" 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 11/30/2016 09:20 AM
> > Subject: concat
> > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> >
> > Would anyone be able to provide a way to concatenate a library to 
> > the SYSPROC allocation.
> >
> > I have tried the concat program from the CBT tape file 134 that 
> > abend with a S0c4.
> > I have tried a rexx exec called ALLOCREX. This sort of works ( it 
> > adds my ds to SYSPROC) but does not keep the same setup of SYSPROC 
> > before the addition.
> > I have tried clist SPROC from IBM but for some reason it is not working.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have something they can share for z/os V2.2.
> >
> > Thanks


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Re: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management product integration

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Sorry, my mind wandered when responding.

A quick search on the internet gives a lot of info

This thread maybe helpful

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/fh1g4n7f5_Q

>From within this thread

ABO is going to make a V3/V4 program faster, in general, because it has access 
to ARCH(up-to-10), in your case, instructions which the V3/V4 compiler does not 
have access to. 

It is also able to use some optimization techniques not available with OPT in 
V3/V4 (learning for the optimizations in V5, which in turn learned from 
optimizations for Java). 

A program may be "flat" (before = after) but that would seem fairly unlikely, 
and any such program would likely not be a CPU heavy-hitter. 

Caveat. It would be possible that the ABO has initial "overhead" larger than 
the original program that affects CALLed programs. I don't know. Not seen it. 
Just sayin'.


https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/blogs/invisiblethread/entry/Give_your_COBOL_applications_A_BOost_with_the_flip_of_a_switch?lang=en


As far as I know you run your program through ABO process which can reduce the 
need to recompile with V5 and above Cobol and you can get some benefits.

Lizette


> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:38 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management
> product integration
> 
> Is this the product you are referring to?  If not, could you provide more
> details?
> 
> IBM Automatic Binary Optimizer (ABO) for z/OS
> 
> If it is, you should search the IBMMAIN Archives for all of the discussions of
> ABO.
> 
> It allows PRE Cobol V5 MODULES a way to run with some of the optimizations
> provided by V5 Cobol and above.
> 
> Not sure what you would need a tool to integrate it with CA-Endevor.
> 
> 
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
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> > On Behalf Of Holst, Jeffrey A
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:00 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software
> > management product integration
> >
> > A few months ago, I recall seeing something during a web search about
> > integrating ABO with an application software management product like
> > CA- Endevor. For some reason, I think it was from Marist college.
> >
> > I thought I had downloaded it, but either I did not or I deleted it.
> > There may be a new interest in ABO, and I would like to be ready with
> > this if I could find it again. I did a search this afternoon and did
> > not see anything. Has anyone done anything like this or know where I can
> find such a document?
> >
> > Jeffrey Holst
> > Systems Administator Senior
> > Technology and Operations, Shared Services PNC Bank
> > (614) 856-5443
> >
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Re: MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
What problem are you trying to solve?  Or what type of report are you trying to
produce?

Do you have SAS/MXG or SAS/MICS or SAS?

Have you tried searching www.ibm.com for this information? Or any performance
manuals/books?


Lizette


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> Subject: MIPS Calculation formula
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of data-
> source and volumes estimation:
> 
> 
> Data Type: SMF
> 
> Records procesed: X million
> 
> Data Volume:  Y GB
> 
> Total CP CPU utilization: Z seconds
> 
> Approx zIIP utilization: 1344 seconds
> 
> Avg CPU per record:  .0xy seconds
> 
> 
> Data Type: SYSLOG
> 
> Records processed X million
> 
> Data volume: Y GB
> 
> Total CP CPU utilization: z seconds
> 
> Avg CPU per record: .xy seconds
> 
> 
> Data Type: SYSOUT
> 
> Records processed X million
> 
> Data volume: Y GB
> 
> Total CP CPU utilization: z seconds
> 
> Avg CPU per record: .xy seconds
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
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MIPS Calculation formula

2016-11-30 Thread Carlos Cordero
Hi all,


Is there some formula to calculate a MIPS usage from the next kind of 
data-source and volumes estimation:


Data Type: SMF

Records procesed: X million

Data Volume:  Y GB

Total CP CPU utilization: Z seconds

Approx zIIP utilization: 1344 seconds

Avg CPU per record:  .0xy seconds


Data Type: SYSLOG

Records processed X million

Data volume: Y GB

Total CP CPU utilization: z seconds

Avg CPU per record: .xy seconds


Data Type: SYSOUT

Records processed X million

Data volume: Y GB

Total CP CPU utilization: z seconds

Avg CPU per record: .xy seconds



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Re: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management product integration

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Is this the product you are referring to?  If not, could you provide more 
details?

IBM Automatic Binary Optimizer (ABO) for z/OS

If it is, you should search the IBMMAIN Archives for all of the discussions of 
ABO.

It allows PRE Cobol V5 MODULES a way to run with some of the optimizations 
provided by V5 Cobol and above.

Not sure what you would need a tool to integrate it with CA-Endevor.



Lizette


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> Behalf Of Holst, Jeffrey A
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 12:00 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management
> product integration
> 
> A few months ago, I recall seeing something during a web search about
> integrating ABO with an application software management product like CA-
> Endevor. For some reason, I think it was from Marist college.
> 
> I thought I had downloaded it, but either I did not or I deleted it. There may
> be a new interest in ABO, and I would like to be ready with this if I could
> find it again. I did a search this afternoon and did not see anything. Has
> anyone done anything like this or know where I can find such a document?
> 
> Jeffrey Holst
> Systems Administator Senior
> Technology and Operations, Shared Services PNC Bank
> (614) 856-5443
> 

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Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler

>Thinking a bit more, even though there may be parts, bits and pieces of C/C++ 
>code to do with the COBOL program (and supporting routines) anything in the 
>COBOL program is of course "COBOL" and any "COBOL routines" I'd imagine would 
>also be treated as "COBOL" by LE.



This matches my current understanding, strengthened from reading the links you 
provided yesterday. LE treats the case right in that it resumes the Cobol code 
from the ESPIE routine. The Cobol code would not know the 000A exception has 
happened, it will find out if an overflow occurred by testing the condition 
code, it this is needed for the Cobol statement being executed.


The drawback of running Cobol code with the decimal overflow mask bit on is 
shown by Tom Ross ins his 2014 Share presentation "Coding in COBOL for optimum 
performance". The code can use significantly more CPU time due to the 000A 
handling in the ESPIE routine, which would not be triggered when the mask is 
off. But the code runs no different from a logical perspective.




>So I think it reasonable to postulate that the problem only arises with 
>user-written C/C++ code, and that the "first" C/C++ user-written code gets the 
>mask set, as described. With LE TRAP(ON) the issue just may not be apparent.


Almost, at least as long a not other "low level helper package" (Smart/Restart) 
also installs error handling code. This code receives the 000A as well, and 
thinks the applpication failed. It does a roll-back, which causes certain 
things to be "closed" (data sets under its control, DB2 cursors, etc.). This is 
the real problem which then is seen as a weird S0C1 or S0C4 later when the 
Cobol code tries to work with closed "items" it does assume to be "open".


I'll have to did deeper into Smart/Restart and what it does and does not do. 
I'm convinced the longterm, stable solution lies there.



>Perhaps an initial deliberate CALL to a C/C++ program which uses CEE3SPM to 
>turn off that in the mask? LE fires it up as a "new language", sets the mask 
>bit, transfers control to the C/C++ program, which then immediately turns it 
>off and simply returns to the COBOL caller. As each new C/C++ program is 
>CALLed, the mask bit is off, and remains unchanged.

>I think that should work, whatever Smart/Restart is doing.



I'll give this a tought, but only as an interim solution. The next case 
modifying the program mask will surely wait around the corner :-)


Thanks everybody for the very good and informative discussion so far. It helped 
me a lot to get a deeper understanding.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Itschak Mugzach
I have my zPDT runniing on Centos box with DROPBOX installed. so a
recompiled version agent might run under USS and a simple OCOPY to shared
library might do the job.  I would use it if possible.

Best,
ITschak



ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 7:50 PM, Donald J.  wrote:

> If you are connecting to z/os HTTP server, why not use curl client with
> https option.
>
> # Curl Configuration File c:\u\curl\curl.https.conf
> --tlsv1
> --user user142
> --url "https://mvs11.xyz.us/html/Index.html;
> --output sy11.index.html
> --cacert /u/data/cacerts.pem
> -X POST
> -H "content-type: text/html"
> #-trace  /u/curl/curlhttp.trace.log
>
> --
>   Donald J.
>   dona...@4email.net
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016, at 08:16 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote:
> > Thank you - I'll pass that along as an option - was told ftp/sftp was
> not an option but we'll see
> >
> > 
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> > VA OI Service Delivery & Engineering
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Vitullo, Carmen P
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:12 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> >
> > I believe you can configure the Apache HTTP server on Z to allow a
> secure FTP protocol https://httpd.apache.org/mod_ftp/ftp/ftp_tls.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Carmen Vitullo
> > Lead Systems Programmer
> >
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> > IT Infrastructure Services
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> > North Little Rock, Arkansas 72114
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> > Cell: 501.514.4266
> > cpvitu...@arkbluecross.com
> > arkansasbluecross.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:02 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> >
> > Needs to be web based
> >
> >
> > 
> --
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> Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service Delivery
> & Engineering
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:59 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> >
> > So FileZilla is perhaps an option?
> >
> > Lizette
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > > On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:48 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> > >
> > > I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and
> > > download files
> > > - bad choice of terms apparently.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > 
> > > Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> > > Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise
> > > Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service
> > > Delivery & Engineering
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU]
> > > On Behalf Of Steve
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:40 AM
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> > >
> > >
> > > One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the
> > > output then FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX
> > >
> > >
> > > Steve Beaver
> > > st...@stevebeaver.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)" 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:18am
> > > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure
> > > way and also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine
> > > where the user has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> > >
> > > thx
> > >
> > > --
> > > 
> > > Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> > > Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise
> > > Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service
> > > Delivery & Engineering
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 

AW: Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler


>Thanks a lot, that's useful to know. A genuine moment for me to say "thank you 
>for sharing".


I'll second that statement!


-
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Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler
>There is an assumption in the OP that the program itself "did it". Maybe
it did. But maybe it did not do it directly.


I'm relatively new to the company and am collecting information bit by bit 
about this Cobol and "decimal overflow mask" problem. It seems this is know to 
the company since quite some years, but no-one is left knowing the details 
in-depth.


What I've been given is a two pager describing the problem, and advising 
developers to find where they'd called C code directly (instead of an interface 
routine resetting the mask).


>From that I concluded that the case at hand is the result from such a case. 
>This is why I was looking for an easier way to find C modules in the dump than 
>scanning memory (load modules). In the meantime, I have been able to create a 
>list of modules and language from some development tool I did not know before. 
>No C module could be identified. Scratching my head until Bill's post.


So, yes, Peter, you're absoultely right, it may have been cause by own code or 
not. From Bill's post mentioning that "Cobol V5 always uses C", I conclude that 
this must be the case here.


I've been reading a lot today to learn more about LE and the mask bits. I now 
understand that you could never rely on the setting of the bits in a mixed 
language environment. It was just the case so far that we (our middleware 
developers) could control this because our Cobol code was calling our Cobol or 
C code only. A glue glue module solved the issue. The same has been done for 
XML processing, I understand now from discussing with our middleware people 
today.


It probably was not a good solution as we can see now.




Our programs are run with CEEOPTS TRAP(ON). In the initial post have 
erroneously spoken about an "S0CA", where I should have said "000A program 
exception. Later I wrote 000A exception.
By that I mean to say that the program did *not* suffern from an S0CA abend, 
because the "environment" (Smart/Restart and LE) trapped the 000A and resumed.
Apologies for any confusion this may have caused.


The proper solution instead of creating glue routines woud have been to solve 
the issue with Smart/Restart. We probably now have to do this now.


More investigation is due tomorrow.

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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Itschak Mugzach
you can use ALTLIB tso command. It changes the rexx / clist search order by
placing a user library(ies) in front of sSYSPROC / SYSEXEC.

ITschak

ITschak Mugzach
Z/OS, ISV Products and Application Security & Risk Assessments Professional

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 6:32 PM, Sri h Kolusu  wrote:

> Mark,
>
> Issue the command TSO ISRDDN;SAVE and it will give you the current
> allocation list which can be edited, you can add your desired libraries to
> that clist. It is saved as Userid.ISRDDN.CLIST
>
> Thanks,
> Kolusu
>
> IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on
> 11/30/2016 09:19:50 AM:
>
> > From: "Steely.Mark" 
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Date: 11/30/2016 09:20 AM
> > Subject: concat
> > Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> >
> > Would anyone be able to provide a way to concatenate a library to
> > the SYSPROC allocation.
> >
> > I have tried the concat program from the CBT tape file 134 that
> > abend with a S0c4.
> > I have tried a rexx exec called ALLOCREX. This sort of works ( it
> > adds my ds to SYSPROC) but does not keep the same setup of SYSPROC
> > before the addition.
> > I have tried clist SPROC from IBM but for some reason it is not working.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone have something they can share for z/os V2.2.
> >
> > Thanks
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Automatic Binary Optimizer and application Software management product integration

2016-11-30 Thread Holst, Jeffrey A
A few months ago, I recall seeing something during a web search about 
integrating ABO with an application software management product like 
CA-Endevor. For some reason, I think it was from Marist college.

I thought I had downloaded it, but either I did not or I deleted it. There may 
be a new interest in ABO, and I would like to be ready with this if I could 
find it again. I did a search this afternoon and did not see anything. Has 
anyone done anything like this or know where I can find such a document?

Jeffrey Holst
Systems Administator Senior
Technology and Operations, Shared Services
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Re: Apache Virtual Server Setup

2016-11-30 Thread Jack J. Woehr

Dazzo, Matt wrote:
  DocumentRoot/etc/websrv1/PCHshare/   


Nobody on Unix would put the document root under a system dir like /etc ... 
more like /var/www

Also, can you chroot on USS? Locking your web server into a chroot jail is a nice security feature on Unixes and is 
emulated on IBM i PASE installations.


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Re: Apache Virtual Server Setup

2016-11-30 Thread Dazzo, Matt
I believe my problem now stems from the default statements provided with the 
webserver.  See below, these statements come before my virtual server 
statements.  


   Options FollowSymLinks - this is the original ibm setup. 
 
AllowOverride None   
FileETag All -INode 

   Require all denied - this is the original ibm setup  
 

The error message in the logs files is:  AH01630: client denied by server 
configuration: /etc/websrv1/' 

The browser message is: 

You don't have permission to access / on this server.
IBM_HTTP_Server Server at test1 Port 80

It seems the ' Require all granted'  in the virtual server statement maybe are 
not being recognized.  
 
# START Virtual host 1

ServerName MVSTEST1.li.pch.com   
   DocumentRoot /etc/websrv1/PCHshare/   
   DirectoryIndex welcome.html   
   
   
 Require all granted 
   
#  
# START Virtual host 2 
 
   ServerName MVSTEST2.li.pch.com 
   DocumentRoot /etc/websrv1/
   DirectoryIndex welcome.html   
   
   
 Require all granted 
 
#

Any help is appreciated with these directives, thanks Matt


-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf 
Of Neubert, Kevin
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 1:59 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Apache Virtual Server Setup

No DocumentRoot in your VirtualHost?


   DocumentRoot /etc/websrv1/PCHshare
   DirectoryIndex welcome.html



   # Access/Options Here


Regards,

Kevin

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Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 8:56 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Apache Virtual Server Setup

I am trying to setup a virtual server on zos 2.2 apache http server. My intent 
is to have anyone coming in on ip 12.1.1.12:80  to be directed to a welcome 
page html. But I keep getting the access error below. I have tried many, many 
different directive variations but no luck. Any examples or assistance is 
appreciated. Thanks Matt

If this is not the correct forum for this please let me know. tks

# START Virtual Server 1 statements.

#

DirectoryIndex welcome.html

Require all granted

 
 
#

Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.
IBM_HTTP_Server Server at 27.1.39.74 Port 80

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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Just to clarify - the TSO CLIST manual has the SPROC code in it as a sample for 
CLIST coding

http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ikjb800/sproc.htm

in the past I did copy this and it did run correctly.  But I think it may need 
to run in TSO READY mode.

Are you looking for something that can run under ISPF to reallocate/concatenate 
to SYSPROC, SYSEXEC, etc...


Lizette


> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Mike Myers
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:30 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: concat
> 
> Mark:
> 
> I have a REXX procedure I wrote many years ago that does the job. I can say
> that it works on z/OS 2.1, but don't have access to a 2.2 system, although I
> can see no reason why it won't run there.
> 
> I don't believe that we can attach files on this listserv, so here it is in
> source form:
> 
> /* rexx */
>   /* 
>  Syntax:
>   %ralok dsname filename 
> 
>  This REXX procedure can be used to alter the existing allocation
>  for the file identified in the second operand. The data set
>  whose name is supplied as the first operand will be inserted
>  into the existing allocation (or replace it), depending on the
>  value of the third operand (as follows):
> 
>   top   - inserts the data set named as the first data
>   set in the concatenation for the file
> 
>   bottom- inserts the data set named as the last data
>   set in the concatenation for the file
> 
>   replace   - inserts the data set named as the only data set
>   allocated to the file
> 
>  arguments:
>   dsname- the name of the data set to be used in altering
>   the concatenation for the file.
> 
>   filename  - the ddname of the file whose concatenation is
>   to be altered.
> 
>- explained above - determines
>   where in the concatenation order the data set
>   is placed. The default is top.
>  */
>   /* 
>  Obtain the parameters.
>  */
>  parse upper arg dsname filename option .
>  if length(dsname) = 0 then , /* Dsname and file are required.*/
>if length(filename) = 0 then do
>  say 'You must provide a data set name and a file name.'
>  say 'Syntax: ralok dsname filename '
>exit 20
>  end
>   /* 
>  Initialize variables.
>  */
>  dsnames = ''/* List of allocated data sets   */
>  found = 0   /* Set file found indicator off  */
>  if length(option) = 0 then option = 'TOP'
>   /* 
>  Act on the option specified.
>  */
>  select
>when option = 'REPLACE' then do  /* Replace entire allocation. */
>  address TSO 'ALLOC F('filename') DA('dsname') SHR REUSE'
>  say 'Data set: 'dsname' replaces allocation for file:' filename
>  exit rc
>end
>when (option = 'TOP' | option = 'BOTTOM') then do
>   /* 
>  Enable SYSOUT trapping. Results go in the array named lista.
>  */
>  x = outtrap(lista.) /* Trap output from LISTA command.   */
>  address TSO 'LISTALC ST'
>  x = outtrap(off)/* Disable output trapping.  */
>  if lista.0 = 0 then exit /* No output from LISTALC, quit.*/
>   /* 
>  Find the desired file in the LISTA output.
>  */
>  do line = 2 to lista.0  /* skip command and header lines */
> /* --
>Process terminal file entry or null file entry.
> -- */
>if (substr(lista.line,1,8) \= 'TERMFILE') & ,
>   (substr(lista.line,1,8) \= 'NULLFILE') then do
>  parse var lista.line ddname .
>  ddname = strip(ddname)/* Remove blanks   */
>  if filename = ddname then do  /* Matches input filename  */
>line = line - 1 /* 

Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Mike Myers

Mark:

I have a REXX procedure I wrote many years ago that does the job. I can 
say that it works on z/OS 2.1, but don't have access to a 2.2 system, 
although I can see no reason why it won't run there.


I don't believe that we can attach files on this listserv, so here it is 
in source form:


/* rexx */
 /* 
Syntax:
 %ralok dsname filename 

This REXX procedure can be used to alter the existing allocation
for the file identified in the second operand. The data set
whose name is supplied as the first operand will be inserted
into the existing allocation (or replace it), depending on the
value of the third operand (as follows):

 top   - inserts the data set named as the first data
 set in the concatenation for the file

 bottom- inserts the data set named as the last data
 set in the concatenation for the file

 replace   - inserts the data set named as the only data set
 allocated to the file

arguments:
 dsname- the name of the data set to be used in altering
 the concatenation for the file.

 filename  - the ddname of the file whose concatenation is
 to be altered.

  - explained above - determines
 where in the concatenation order the data set
 is placed. The default is top.
 */
 /* 
Obtain the parameters.
 */
parse upper arg dsname filename option .
if length(dsname) = 0 then , /* Dsname and file are required.*/
  if length(filename) = 0 then do
say 'You must provide a data set name and a file name.'
say 'Syntax: ralok dsname filename '
  exit 20
end
 /* 
Initialize variables.
 */
dsnames = ''/* List of allocated data sets   */
found = 0   /* Set file found indicator off  */
if length(option) = 0 then option = 'TOP'
 /* 
Act on the option specified.
 */
select
  when option = 'REPLACE' then do  /* Replace entire allocation. */
address TSO 'ALLOC F('filename') DA('dsname') SHR REUSE'
say 'Data set: 'dsname' replaces allocation for file:' filename
exit rc
  end
  when (option = 'TOP' | option = 'BOTTOM') then do
 /* 
Enable SYSOUT trapping. Results go in the array named lista.
 */
x = outtrap(lista.) /* Trap output from LISTA command.   */
address TSO 'LISTALC ST'
x = outtrap(off)/* Disable output trapping.  */
if lista.0 = 0 then exit /* No output from LISTALC, quit.*/
 /* 
Find the desired file in the LISTA output.
 */
do line = 2 to lista.0  /* skip command and header lines */
   /* --
  Process terminal file entry or null file entry.
-- */
  if (substr(lista.line,1,8) \= 'TERMFILE') & ,
 (substr(lista.line,1,8) \= 'NULLFILE') then do
parse var lista.line ddname .
ddname = strip(ddname)/* Remove blanks   */
if filename = ddname then do  /* Matches input filename  */
  line = line - 1 /* Back up one line.   */
  parse var lista.line name . /* Isolate the dsname  */
  dsnames = "'"strip(name)"'" /* Assign it to the list   */
  found = 0   /* Found = 1 when the next
 file (ddname) is found. */
  line = line + 1 /* Back to current line.   */
  do until found/* Continue to next file.*/
line = line + 2 /* Check for next file   */
if line <= lista.0 then , /* Don't go past end of
 LISTA output listing.   */
  if substr(lista.line,1,8) \= '' then ,
found = 1   /* Next file name found  */
  else do   /* Add another data set name */

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Bigendian Smalls
If it were me, I’d start by Googling open source web file sharing or open 
source private cloud.  I think the issue is starting with “Z” based xyz.   Most 
/ many technologies can / will run on z if they’re java / c / plain ol’ web 
type stuff - you might very well be able to port or even just install off the 
shelf one of the 10s of options in that space.

Obviously you might’nt be able to do direct xfers to MVS Datasets, for instance 
- but with all the other help / ingenuity here I’m sure you can work / code 
around that to use UNIX as the base for pickup/dropoff.



> On Nov 30, 2016, at 12:19 PM, Peter Hunkeler  wrote:
> 
> 
>> ftp is restricted - was my first thought as well 
> 
> 
> What is the limiting part? FTP can write to and read from the z/OS UNIX file 
> system. 
> Do you need to work with the files on z/OS? Or is it only to be the parking 
> space?
> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Thank you - will check it out


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-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:21 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

Lionel,

Many years ago, back when wiki's were all new and sexy,  I got twiki 
(twiki.org) working fairly well. It also contained a file upload/download 
facility.

http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiOnMainframe

It looks like there was a little more work done on it up to about 2005.

Perhaps this is the sort of thing you are looking for.

HTH,
Dana

 
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:02:09 -0600, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)  
wrote:

Needs to be web based 
 
 

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AW: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler

> ftp is restricted - was my first thought as well


What is the limiting part? FTP can write to and read from the z/OS UNIX file 
system.
Do you need to work with the files on z/OS? Or is it only to be the parking 
space?


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Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Jousma, David
Well, its overkill, but you could download/install Dovetails ported copy of 
TOMCAT/Wiki.   Create pages, secure them to your self, attach files, all done 
via browser.  I'm surprised Kirk didn’t suggest that.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:55 AM
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Subject: Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
>
> Thanks
>
> Btw. open source is fine
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:24:52 -0600, Kirk Wolf wrote:

>Some possibilities for remote and secure file/dataset transfer:
>
>- z/OS FTPS
>
>z/OS OpenSSH SFTP.   Co:Z SFTP enhancements allow support for z/OS data
>sets, spool files, etc.
>
>- z/OSMF REST File services  (HTTPS/REST APIS for files and data sets)
>https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.izua700/IZUHPINFO_API_RESTFILES.htm
>
>None of these has a user web interface, although a web front end to any
>could be developed.
>
This becomes more complicated if there is a requirement to support cients
on both z/OS and desktops.

Hmmm.  I found a WWW client in Java called Lobo.  I tried it on a desktop
where it sucked so badly there was no point in trying it on z/OS.  No
recent updates.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Donald J.
If you are connecting to z/os HTTP server, why not use curl client with https 
option.

# Curl Configuration File c:\u\curl\curl.https.conf
--tlsv1
--user user142
--url "https://mvs11.xyz.us/html/Index.html;
--output sy11.index.html
--cacert /u/data/cacerts.pem
-X POST
-H "content-type: text/html"
#-trace  /u/curl/curlhttp.trace.log

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On Wed, Nov 30, 2016, at 08:16 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) wrote:
> Thank you - I'll pass that along as an option - was told ftp/sftp was not an 
> option but we'll see
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:12 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> I believe you can configure the Apache HTTP server on Z to allow a secure FTP 
> protocol https://httpd.apache.org/mod_ftp/ftp/ftp_tls.html
> 
> 
> 
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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:02 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Needs to be web based
> 
> 
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> Engineering
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> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On 
> Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:59 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> So FileZilla is perhaps an option?
> 
> Lizette
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> > On Behalf Of Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:48 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> > 
> > I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and 
> > download files
> > - bad choice of terms apparently.
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> > Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
> > Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service 
> > Delivery & Engineering
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> > On Behalf Of Steve
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:40 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> > 
> > 
> > One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the 
> > output then FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX
> > 
> > 
> > Steve Beaver
> > st...@stevebeaver.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:18am
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure 
> > way and also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine 
> > where the user has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> > 
> > thx
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> > Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
> > Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service 
> > Delivery & Engineering
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] 
> > On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> > 
> > Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> > 
> > Kirk Wolf
> > Dovetailed Technologies
> > http://dovetail.com
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
> > 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> > > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> > >

Re: AW: Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Bill Woodger
Thinking a bit more, even though there may be parts, bits and pieces of C/C++ 
code to do with the COBOL program (and supporting routines) anything in the 
COBOL program is of course "COBOL" and any "COBOL routines" I'd imagine would 
also be treated as "COBOL" by LE. 

So I think it reasonable to postulate that the problem only arises with 
user-written C/C++ code, and that the "first" C/C++ user-written code gets the 
mask set, as described. With LE TRAP(ON) the issue just may not be apparent.

Perhaps an initial deliberate CALL to a C/C++ program which uses CEE3SPM to 
turn off that in the mask? LE fires it up as a "new language", sets the mask 
bit, transfers control to the C/C++ program, which then immediately turns it 
off and simply returns to the COBOL caller. As each new C/C++ program is 
CALLed, the mask bit is off, and remains unchanged.

I think that should work, whatever Smart/Restart is doing.

Test with the simple COBOL program (yet to be provided...)  doing the CALL and 
not doing the CALL, with TRAP(ON) and TRAP(OFF), both "inside" and "outside" 
Smart/Restart. Ah. Not so easy to replicate the actual issue you have with 
Smart/Restart and the DB and the 0008. So just do it "outside", and if it 
behaves as expected (S0CA without the CALL and with TRAP(OFF), no S0CA 
otherwise) then try it in the actual system.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Kirk Wolf
Some possibilities for remote and secure file/dataset transfer:

- z/OS FTPS

z/OS OpenSSH SFTP.   Co:Z SFTP enhancements allow support for z/OS data
sets, spool files, etc.

- z/OSMF REST File services  (HTTPS/REST APIS for files and data sets)
https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/SSLTBW_2.2.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r2.izua700/IZUHPINFO_API_RESTFILES.htm

None of these has a user web interface, although a web front end to any
could be developed.

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

PS> Co:Z SFTP is free to use under our Community License.
https://dovetail.com/products/sftp.html
https://dovetail.com/support.html

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way
> and also download a file securely.  A web interface would be fine where the
> user has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
>
> thx
>
> --
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> Mainframe Systems Programmer 
> Enterprise Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10)
> VA OI Service Delivery & Engineering
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On
> Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
>
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
>
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) <
> lionel.d...@va.gov>
> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Btw. open source is fine
> >
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Dana Mitchell
Lionel,

Many years ago, back when wiki's were all new and sexy,  I got twiki 
(twiki.org) working fairly well. It also contained a file upload/download 
facility.

http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Codev/TWikiOnMainframe

It looks like there was a little more work done on it up to about 2005.

Perhaps this is the sort of thing you are looking for.

HTH,
Dana

 
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 10:02:09 -0600, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)  
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Needs to be web based 
 


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Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Bill Woodger
Denis,

Thanks a lot, that's useful to know. A genuine moment for me to say "thank you 
for sharing".

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Re: AW: Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Bill Woodger
>I'm kind of alerted by the statement "Cobol V5 always uses C". That means the 
>decimal overflow mask will always be set after the first (internal) call to C 
>code?'
>
>Can you be more specific on it means that "Cobol V5 always uses C"? 

Interesting questions. I don't have access to V5+, so can't experiment. I would 
expect that "COBOL functionality" that happens to be in C/C++ would be aware of 
the issue for COBOL and would turn off that bit... but is that so?

I'll try to post a simple COBOL program to carry out an experient later. I'll 
have to second-guess the new optimizer, because it is much more clever than up 
to V4. 

Here's an extract from a small V5.2 program I was sent:

E X T E R N A LS Y M B O LD I C T I O N A R Y

TYPE   ID   ADDR   LENGTHNAME

SD 1  00  00MAIN
ED 2  00  00C_CEESG003
ED 3  00  000808C_CODE
LD 4  00  00MAIN#C
ER 5  00  00CEESTART
ER 6  00  00CEEBETBL
ED 7  00  00C_WSA
PR 8  00  000114MAIN#S
ED 9  00  22B_IDRL
ER10  00  00IGZXBST1
ER11  00  00MAIN
ER12  00  00IGZXPRS
ER13  00  00IGZXCMSG
ER14  00  00IGZXDSP
ER15  00  00IGZXRTN
ER16  00  00IGZXTREN
ER17  00  00IGZXRT1
LD18  00  00MAIN
ER19  00  00CEESG004
ED20  00  00C_@@PPA2
PR21  00  08
ED22  00  00C_@@CSINIT
PR23  00  04

There is no direct equivalent of this on a pre-V5 compile listing, and the 
there's "evidence" there. When I'm home I'll try to futher locate something 
mentioning this from someone at IBM. Search-engineing for languages whose name 
consist of only one alphabetic character is... less than pleasant.

Have you looked at the setting for LE's TRAP? If it is ON, LE will deal with 
the 0008 transparently to the COBOL programs and they will not give a S0CA. At 
least TRAP(OFF) is the only way I know of (in interaction with the mask being 
on) to get a S0CA from COBOL. There may be some unintended interaction with the 
Smart/Restart, but knowing if the LE TRAP is ON or OFF is worthwhile.

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Vitullo, Carmen P
Your Welcome, it would be FTP or SFTP behind the scenes, if the protocol is not 
allowed because of a site restriction I think Http can still provide the 
ability via POST  / GET ?
Good luck  

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Thank you - I'll pass that along as an option - was told ftp/sftp was not an 
option but we'll see

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I believe you can configure the Apache HTTP server on Z to allow a secure FTP 
protocol https://httpd.apache.org/mod_ftp/ftp/ftp_tls.html



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Needs to be web based


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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

So FileZilla is perhaps an option?

Lizette


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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:48 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and 
> download files
> - bad choice of terms apparently.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
> Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service 
> Delivery & Engineering
> 
> 
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> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:40 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the 
> output then FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX
> 
> 
> Steve Beaver
> st...@stevebeaver.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:18am
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> 
> Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure 
> way and also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine 
> where the user has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> 
> thx
> 
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
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> Delivery & Engineering
> 
> 
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> On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> 
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Have you tried the CONCAT from CBT File 831?


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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:39 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: concat

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Steely.Mark 
wrote:

> Would anyone be able to provide a way to concatenate a library to the 
> SYSPROC allocation.
>
> I have tried the concat program from the CBT tape file 134 that abend 
> with a S0c4.
> I have tried a rexx exec called ALLOCREX. This sort of works ( it adds 
> my ds to SYSPROC) but does not keep the same setup of SYSPROC before 
> the addition.
> I have tried clist SPROC from IBM but for some reason it is not working.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have something they can share for z/os V2.2.
>
> Thanks
>
>
​I have not done this, but you might try BPXWDYN 
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.bpxb600/bpx1rx76.htm

Something like:

ALLOC FILE(SYSPRC1) DSN(​dsn1,dsn2) SHR REUSE CALL BPXWDYN 'CONCAT 
DDLIST(SYSPROC,SYSPRC1) PERMC DIAG(DIAG) MSG(MSG)'

BPXWDYN can be use in a CLIST or REXX or other language (it is CALLable from 
COBOL, PL/I, HLASM, etc).


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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:06:33 +, Vitullo, Carmen P wrote:

>Well, we use a ZFS filesystem mounted at //usr/local/ftp for a landing 
>zone for secure file transfer using sftp, a cron job does the cleanup daily 
>and weekly As others have mentioned FTP would be an easy protocol to use.. 
>even SFTP
> 
I'd expect fewer target clients to be unfamiliar with/lack HTTPS than to lack 
(S)FTP.

Isn't FileZilla just (S)FTP?

Does Apache support secure uploads/downloads?

What are your security requirements?  You don't want to create a
hub for kiddie porn.

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Re: IBM doc page - down or dead?

2016-11-30 Thread Susan Shumway

Redirected! (It's a good idea to still update your bookmarks, though.)

On 11/30/16 11:32 AM, Susan Shumway wrote:

I believe that there was previously a redirect for the URLs without
"/library". If there was, it apparently broke. If there wasn't, we
obviously need one now! Please update all your bookmarks to the current
"www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/" format, and I'll
investigate the redirect.

On 11/29/16 10:40 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote:

On 2016-11-28 17:23, Sri h Kolusu wrote:

Gord,

The correct link is

http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/

You are missing the library before bkserv

Kolusu


Thanks, Kolusu, that worked. Something did change, though. The URL I
posted was bookmarked and I used it successfully for a very long time.
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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread John McKown
On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Steely.Mark 
wrote:

> Would anyone be able to provide a way to concatenate a library to the
> SYSPROC allocation.
>
> I have tried the concat program from the CBT tape file 134 that abend with
> a S0c4.
> I have tried a rexx exec called ALLOCREX. This sort of works ( it adds my
> ds to SYSPROC) but does not keep the same setup of SYSPROC before the
> addition.
> I have tried clist SPROC from IBM but for some reason it is not working.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have something they can share for z/os V2.2.
>
> Thanks
>
>
​I have not done this, but you might try BPXWDYN
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.bpxb600/bpx1rx76.htm

Something like:

ALLOC FILE(SYSPRC1) DSN(​dsn1,dsn2) SHR REUSE
CALL BPXWDYN 'CONCAT DDLIST(SYSPROC,SYSPRC1) PERMC DIAG(DIAG) MSG(MSG)'

BPXWDYN can be use in a CLIST or REXX or other language (it is CALLable
from COBOL, PL/I, HLASM, etc).


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Re: concat

2016-11-30 Thread Sri h Kolusu
Mark,

Issue the command TSO ISRDDN;SAVE and it will give you the current 
allocation list which can be edited, you can add your desired libraries to 
that clist. It is saved as Userid.ISRDDN.CLIST

Thanks,
Kolusu

IBM Mainframe Discussion List  wrote on 
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> From: "Steely.Mark" 
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Date: 11/30/2016 09:20 AM
> Subject: concat
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> 
> Would anyone be able to provide a way to concatenate a library to 
> the SYSPROC allocation. 
> 
> I have tried the concat program from the CBT tape file 134 that 
> abend with a S0c4.
> I have tried a rexx exec called ALLOCREX. This sort of works ( it 
> adds my ds to SYSPROC) but does not keep the same setup of SYSPROC 
> before the addition. 
> I have tried clist SPROC from IBM but for some reason it is not working. 

> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone have something they can share for z/os V2.2. 
> 
> Thanks
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Re: IBM doc page - down or dead?

2016-11-30 Thread Susan Shumway
I believe that there was previously a redirect for the URLs without 
"/library". If there was, it apparently broke. If there wasn't, we 
obviously need one now! Please update all your bookmarks to the current 
"www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/" format, and I'll 
investigate the redirect.


On 11/29/16 10:40 AM, Gord Tomlin wrote:

On 2016-11-28 17:23, Sri h Kolusu wrote:

Gord,

The correct link is

http://www.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/library/bkserv/

You are missing the library before bkserv

Kolusu


Thanks, Kolusu, that worked. Something did change, though. The URL I
posted was bookmarked and I used it successfully for a very long time.
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Thank you - I'll pass that along as an option - was told ftp/sftp was not an 
option but we'll see

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I believe you can configure the Apache HTTP server on Z to allow a secure FTP 
protocol https://httpd.apache.org/mod_ftp/ftp/ftp_tls.html



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Needs to be web based


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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

So FileZilla is perhaps an option?

Lizette


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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:48 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and 
> download files
> - bad choice of terms apparently.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
> Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service 
> Delivery & Engineering
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:40 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the 
> output then FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX
> 
> 
> Steve Beaver
> st...@stevebeaver.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:18am
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> 
> Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure 
> way and also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine 
> where the user has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> 
> thx
> 
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
> Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service 
> Delivery & Engineering
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> 
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Btw. open source is fine
> >
> > 
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concat

2016-11-30 Thread Steely.Mark
Would anyone be able to provide a way to concatenate a library to the SYSPROC 
allocation. 

I have tried the concat program from the CBT tape file 134 that abend with a 
S0c4.
I have tried a rexx exec called ALLOCREX. This sort of works ( it adds my ds to 
SYSPROC) but does not keep the same setup of SYSPROC before the addition. 
I have tried clist SPROC from IBM but for some reason it is not working. 



Does anyone have something they can share for z/os V2.2. 

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Vitullo, Carmen P
Well, we use a ZFS filesystem mounted at //usr/local/ftp for a landing 
zone for secure file transfer using sftp, a cron job does the cleanup daily and 
weekly As others have mentioned FTP would be an easy protocol to use.. even SFTP

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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:48 AM
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I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and download files - 
bad choice of terms apparently.


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One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the output then 
FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX  
 
 
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Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way and 
also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine where the user has 
to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.

thx

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
>
> Thanks
>
> Btw. open source is fine
>
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Vitullo, Carmen P
I believe you can configure the Apache HTTP server on Z to allow a secure FTP 
protocol  
https://httpd.apache.org/mod_ftp/ftp/ftp_tls.html



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So FileZilla is perhaps an option?

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> 
> I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and 
> download files
> - bad choice of terms apparently.
> 
> 
> --
> 
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> 
> 
> One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the 
> output then FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX
> 
> 
> Steve Beaver
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> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure 
> way and also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine 
> where the user has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> 
> thx
> 
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> 
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Btw. open source is fine
> >
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Vitullo, Carmen P
Well, we use a ZFS filesystem mounted at /usr/local/ftp for a landing 
zone for secure ftp, a cron job does the cleanup daily and weekly 
As others have mentioned FTP would be an easy protocol to use.. even SFTP 


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I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and download files - 
bad choice of terms apparently.


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One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the output then 
FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX  
 
 
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Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way and 
also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine where the user has 
to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.

thx

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
>
> Thanks
>
> Btw. open source is fine
>
> --
> 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Needs to be web based


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Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:59 AM
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

So FileZilla is perhaps an option?

Lizette


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> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and 
> download files
> - bad choice of terms apparently.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
> Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service 
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> 
> 
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> On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:40 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the 
> output then FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX
> 
> 
> Steve Beaver
> st...@stevebeaver.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:18am
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> 
> Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure 
> way and also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine 
> where the user has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> 
> thx
> 
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise 
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> 
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> On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> 
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Btw. open source is fine
> >
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
So FileZilla is perhaps an option?

Lizette


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> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and download files
> - bad choice of terms apparently.
> 
> 
> --
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 9:40 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the output then
> FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX
> 
> 
> Steve Beaver
> st...@stevebeaver.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)" 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 10:18am
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> 
> 
> Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way and
> also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine where the user
> has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> 
> thx
> 
> --
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise
> Infrastructure Support (Station 200) (005OP6.3.10) VA OI Service Delivery &
> Engineering
> 
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> 
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Btw. open source is fine
> >
> > --
> > 
> > Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
> > Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
I don't want to emulate DROPBOX - I want a place to upload and download files - 
bad choice of terms apparently.


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One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the output then 
FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX  
 
 
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Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way and 
also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine where the user has 
to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.

thx

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
>
> Thanks
>
> Btw. open source is fine
>
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
We have installed Micro Focus Reflections that comes with FTP and can also do 
IND$FILE.

Not sure what 3270 emulator you are using but it may have a process you can 
use. 

Attachmate, Vista TN3270  etc

Another option might be to look at the ISPF Workstation process.  It might 
usable depending on what you are doing.

Or can you mount files on the Mainframe that the user needs rather than FTP'ing 
files?


Lizette


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> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way and
> also download a file securely.  A web interface would be fine where the user
> has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.
> 
> thx
> 
> --
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> Mainframe Systems Programmer  Enterprise
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Kirk Wolf
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?
> 
> Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?
> 
> Kirk Wolf
> Dovetailed Technologies
> http://dovetail.com
> 
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will
> > allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Btw. open source is fine

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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Steve

One way would be to use ADRDSSU to dump the files,  The TERSE the output then 
FTP in BINARY to your PC then put it into DROPBOX  
 
 
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Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way and 
also download a file securely. A web interface would be fine where the user has 
to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.

thx

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
>
> Thanks
>
> Btw. open source is fine
>
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
Looking for a simple way a user can upload a file to z/OS in a secure way and 
also download a file securely.  A web interface would be fine where the user 
has to logon. Would expect it to use https for security.

thx

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will 
> allow a user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
>
> Thanks
>
> Btw. open source is fine
>
> --
> 
> Lionel B. Dyck (TRA Contractor)
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Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Kirk Wolf
Do you mean a cloud storage style API *client* or *server* for z/OS?

Kirk Wolf
Dovetailed Technologies
http://dovetail.com

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA) 
wrote:

> Does anyone know of a z/OS web based dropbox application that will allow a
> user to upload a file securely and to download a file securely?
>
> Thanks
>
> Btw. open source is fine
>
> --
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Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Denis
Hi,
 
I once had a PMR open, where COBOL called a COBOL DLL and the program mask 
changed. Which was annoying for the assembler that later was called and 
depended on the exception bits in the PSW.
 
The outcome was:
1. Language Environment neithersaves nor restores the program mask setting 
across calls to Language Environment servicesor calls within the Language 
Environment environment.
http://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/SSLTBW_2.1.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ceev100/pgmask.htm
2. The call from NODLL Cobol to the DLL COBOL was treated as new language 
(causing IGZCFCC calling CEEBADDM service to add a new member).
The maskable program exceptions are enabled for all member languagesrepresented 
in the root or main load module during Language Environment initialization.Each 
member language informs Language Environment of itsprogram mask requirements, 
and Language Environment ORs allof the requirements together and sets the 
program mask during initialization.During termination, the program mask is 
reset by Language Environment to itsvalue upon entry to Language Environment 
initialization.
3. While the enclave is running, the program mask is influenced bythe callable 
service, CEE3SPM, and by members' requirements that arenewly-added as a result 
of a dynamic call or fetch; this is handledby the CWI service CEE3ADDM.
4. If a program expects to work with a specific program mask, it needs to set 
it to the values it requires and reset it back, because of 1.

This basically means, in an unlucky mix or with new compilers/languages, the 
program mask might be different than it was before.
 
Hope that helps.
Denis.

 
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Bill,Thanks a zillion for this information and the pointers in there.


While it does not represent a solution to my question, it does give me most 
valuable to the problem at hand. I'll have to discuss this with the people 
responsible for the Cobol V5 migtation here.

I'm kind of alerted by the statement "Cobol V5 always uses C". That means the 
decimal overflow mask will always be set after the first (internal) call to C 
code?

Can you be more specific on it means that "Cobol V5 always uses C"?

The 000A exception causes us problems, I understand so far, in context of 
programs running under control of Smart/Restart. Smart/Restart installs its own 
error handlers, which are obviously not supposed (or prepared) to handle an 
000A exception in Cobol context. It has something to do with S/R rolling back 
the DB changes and LE then ignoring the error giving contol back to the Cobol 
code. Later, a next DB call will fail with, mostly, a 0004 exception often in 
DSNHLI, because cursors are no longer open.

(Note that this is only vague information at this time. I'll have to understand 
what really happens. I have just gotten involved in this.)



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Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP) Datum: 30.11.16, 04:07


Are you running LE with TRAP(OFF)? That's the only way I know, yet, of getting 
the S0CA from a COBOL program. See the discussion here: 
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/forums/html/topic?id=a639cb05-5604-42ab-95da-2a77dfccadbf=25.
 There was an RFE raised, which is currently an "Uncommitted Candidate", 
meaning it is a possible thing for the future, for a compiler option to provide 
the S0CA, during development, for instance.

However, would that, even if available, help you find the errant C/C++ 
program(s)? If the first C/C++ program set the bit and only the 300th COBOL 
program actually had an overflow?

Are you, ideally, looking for a list of the C/C++ programs which have already 
been "used" in the run-unit so that you can manually inspect them for the 
setting? That, as you are probably aware, won't give you anything for C/C++ 
program which just haven't been loaded yet, but will be.

How are the C/C++ programs setting the program mask? Do they use CEE3SPM, or 
some other method? If CEE3SPM, it shouldn't be too difficult to identify 
modules using that, although if you have 30,000 C/C++, 200 used (potentially) 
in your run-unit, and only four actually do the nasty of out 1,500 doing it in 
total...

There is an LE User Exit, CEEBINT, but since that is executed at the start of a 
program, even trying to check there won't quickly lead to the C/C++ program(s). 
Prog Z is CALLed by a chain of 25 other COBOL programs (try to guess what they 
are each named), Z CALLs a C/C++ program, which sets the mask, but no ill 
effect on Z (immediately, at least) and then a few GOBACKs and it arrives at 
Prog E, which then CALLs E1 which starts another huge chain, and eventually 
E1431A gets a S0CA. No help at all.


Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Peter Relson
>Can PER trap on a mask setting?

No. I suppose you could trap on (or trace) "all branches" or "all 
instructions" and then have the SLIP trap examine the 
time-of-PER-interrupt PSW to look at the program mask, but that would 
degrade things so much that you might never get there. 

There is an assumption in the OP that the program itself "did it". Maybe 
it did. But maybe it did not do it directly.
The expectation is that the (E)SPIE service manages the PSW program mask. 
But it is true that any program can change the program mask to whatever it 
chooses.
If LE has asked for (E)SPIE management of program interrupt 10, then you'd 
expect the program mask bit for decimal overflow to be on.
The (E)SPIE protocol is to save the returned token from "set" and use that 
on "reset" to reset things to the previous environment.
I use the term "environment" loosely. If an application is "playing" with 
the program mask while (E)SPIE is managing it, all bets are off.

I do not know what drives LE to specify what options when it uses (E)SPIE.

FWIW, because of the program mask, almost all system code must use logical 
arithmetic rather than decimal arithmetic when managing a field that could 
"wrap" (AKA overflow), in case it happens to be running with a non-0 
program mask.

Peter Relson
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Martin Packer
And Dropbox - like Evernote, OneNote, iCloud - has user-friendly user 
interfaces and ecosystem built around them.

Yes, we could build our own based on FTP. It wouldn't be pretty and might 
not have many of the attributes of these ecosystems. For instance 
"scanning to FTP on z/OS with OCR" as a use case would take some assembly.

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AW: Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler
Bill,Thanks a zillion for this information and the pointers in there.


While it does not represent a solution to my question, it does give me most 
valuable to the problem at hand. I'll have to discuss this with the people 
responsible for the Cobol V5 migtation here.

I'm kind of alerted by the statement "Cobol V5 always uses C". That means the 
decimal overflow mask will always be set after the first (internal) call to C 
code?

Can you be more specific on it means that "Cobol V5 always uses C"?

The 000A exception causes us problems, I understand so far, in context of 
programs running under control of Smart/Restart. Smart/Restart installs its own 
error handlers, which are obviously not supposed (or prepared) to handle an 
000A exception in Cobol context. It has something to do with S/R rolling back 
the DB changes and LE then ignoring the error giving contol back to the Cobol 
code. Later, a next DB call will fail with, mostly, a 0004 exception often in 
DSNHLI, because cursors are no longer open.

(Note that this is only vague information at this time. I'll have to understand 
what really happens. I have just gotten involved in this.)



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 Von: Bill Woodger  An:   
IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Betreff: Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or 
Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP) Datum: 30.11.16, 04:07


Are you running LE with TRAP(OFF)? That's the only way I know, yet, of getting 
the S0CA from a COBOL program. See the discussion here: 
https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/community/forums/html/topic?id=a639cb05-5604-42ab-95da-2a77dfccadbf=25.
 There was an RFE raised, which is currently an "Uncommitted Candidate", 
meaning it is a possible thing for the future, for a compiler option to provide 
the S0CA, during development, for instance.

However, would that, even if available, help you find the errant C/C++ 
program(s)? If the first C/C++ program set the bit and only the 300th COBOL 
program actually had an overflow?

Are you, ideally, looking for a list of the C/C++ programs which have already 
been "used" in the run-unit so that you can manually inspect them for the 
setting? That, as you are probably aware, won't give you anything for C/C++ 
program which just haven't been loaded yet, but will be.

How are the C/C++ programs setting the program mask? Do they use CEE3SPM, or 
some other method? If CEE3SPM, it shouldn't be too difficult to identify 
modules using that, although if you have 30,000 C/C++, 200 used (potentially) 
in your run-unit, and only four actually do the nasty of out 1,500 doing it in 
total...

There is an LE User Exit, CEEBINT, but since that is executed at the start of a 
program, even trying to check there won't quickly lead to the C/C++ program(s). 
Prog Z is CALLed by a chain of 25 other COBOL programs (try to guess what they 
are each named), Z CALLs a C/C++ program, which sets the mask, but no ill 
effect on Z (immediately, at least) and then a few GOBACKs and it arrives at 
Prog E, which then CALLs E1 which starts another huge chain, and eventually 
E1431A gets a S0CA. No help at all.

Even if there is a handy "table" of modules with their entry-points, you'll 
still miss those that have not yet been CALLed.

Because the mask can be set and, if coded like that, it sticks, and COBOL 
"ignores" it, unless you use TRAP(OFF), yet COBOL (actually LE) consumes time 
ignoring it when it occurs, any C/C++ which is used by COBOL just has to "set 
it back" (can be PUSH, SET, POP for if the C/C++ may also be used by C/C++ or 
something else which likes S0CA) it is tricky. Getting COBOL to do the PUSH, 
SET, POP (either manually or by compiler change) would be "overhead" that would 
be paid for on every CALL.

Perhaps contact IBM. At least if there is a handy LE table of 
module/entry-point, you could look at that at the end of the run and get 
something from there to prioritise a list. And bear in mind that any one run 
may not have exercised all the C/C++ programs that can potentially be CALLed.

If it is not directly documented that for COBOL to C/C++ the C/C++ mustn't 
return to COBOL with the mask on, then perhaps that could be addressed as well. 
But, for your C/C++ programs, identify (all), prioritise (yours, if you can 
work it out), fix source and recompile.

More information may lead to some more targeted suggestions, but at the moment 
it seems like (another) sticky issue for you.

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AW: Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Peter Hunkeler

>Try in IPCS VERBX LEDATA 'TCB(00xx) CEEDUMP' where the TCB is the one
that abended and you should get the LE trace-back, similar to what you would
get in SYSOUT CEEDUMP.




Yes, I know that. The problem is that the module I'm looking for is not in the 
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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread Dyck, Lionel B. (TRA)
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Re: z/OS Web Based Dropbox ?

2016-11-30 Thread R.S.

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Re: How to Identify modules as C/C++ or Cobol, or ASM from dump (SYSMDUMP)

2016-11-30 Thread Robin Atwood
Peter-
Try in IPCS VERBX LEDATA 'TCB(00xx) CEEDUMP' where the TCB is the one
that abended and you should get the LE trace-back, similar to what you would
get in SYSOUT CEEDUMP.

HTH
Robin

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(SYSMDUMP)

I've got a dump (SYSMDUMP) from a Cobol program that has called some 500+
other modules (don't ask) when it finally abends with an S0CA. The modules
are Cobol, C/C++ and Assembler modules. 


The S0CA is caused by the fact that C/C++ sets the "decimal overflow mask"
in the PSW, but does not reset it to the previous state. Cobol expects
decmial overflows not to cause an exception (000A). 


My problem is to find which of the 500+ are C/C++ modules. So far I could
not find a way to determine this from the dump. LE remembers which runtime
environments (Cobol, C/C++) are active because some such code has been
active in the enclacve. So I'm hoping that LE keeps some kind of list of
modules loaded by "type", i.e. the various languages it supports.


I'm thinking of something like the LLE (load list entries) but by language
type.


Does anyone happen to know anything that might help me?


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