Re: [efloraofindia:450420] Berberis chitria Buch.-Ham. ex Lindl. submission AS6 June 2023

[gurinder goraya]

Dear all,

I agree with Ashutosh. Berberis chitria is a very distinct species and should 
be treated as a distinct taxa, and not under B. aristata. In addition to the 
differences from B. aristata pointed out by Ashutosh, leaves of B. chitria are 
glossy green, sour in taste and sometimes used to make 'chutney'. The 
description and drawing of B. aristata as given in Flora Simlensis seems to be 
that of B. chitria. There are issues with its type validation, and correct 
author citation, which need early resolution.

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS (Retd.)
735-B, Joginder Vihar, Army Flats, Phase-2 (Sector-54),
SAS Nagar, Mohali - 160 055 (Punjab)
Tel. (Mob.) +91-941-802-5036

From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Ashutosh Sharma 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2023 9:16 PM
To: J.M. Garg 
Cc: efloraofindia 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:450397] Berberis chitria Buch.-Ham. ex Lindl. 
submission AS6 June 2023

Dear Garg ji,

This recent change in POWO and IPNI is recent and is actually a result of my 
personal discussion with Dr. Julian Harber as earlier POWO used to give same 
result what gbif still gives i.e. - Berberis chitria Buch.-Ham. ex Lindl. as 
accepted name.

There are some nomenclature and type validation issues with the name Berberis 
chitria, however the plant I have post d is absolutely not true Berberis 
aristata DC. so for the time being we resolve the nomenclature issues and 
validate the name I recommend you to please keep my submission only under name 
B. chitria ignoring POWO.

Thanks & regards
Ashutosh Sharma

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 17:11 J.M. Garg 
mailto:jmga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Ashutosh ji,
POWO gives 
it as a syn. of Berberis aristata DC. I think it may be based on 'Adhikari, B., 
Pendry, C.A., Pennington, R.T. & Milne, R.I. (2012). A revision of Berberis 
s.s. (Berberidaceae) in Nepal. Edinburgh Journal of Botany 69: 477-522'

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 16:35, J.M. Garg 
mailto:jmga...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks a lot, Ashutosh ji

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From: Ashutosh Sharma 
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Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 at 23:08
Subject: [efloraofindia:448455] Berberis chitria Buch.-Ham. ex Lindl. 
submission AS6 June 2023
To: indiantreepix 
mailto:indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>>


Dear members,

Here's a new addition to eFloraofIndia website

Berberis chitria Buch.-Ham. ex Lindl.
Family - Berberidaceae

Photographed in Kullu district, Himachal Pradesh
Elevation - 2100 metres
Flowering - May to June & Fruiting - September

This species (B. chitria) is not uncommon in Western Himalayas and surprisingly 
some of the images of this sp. are already present on our website but are 
misidentified under page Berberis aristata DC., which is a quite different 
species and can be distinguished easily from B. chitria based on the below 
provided key.

Berberis chitria is characterized by loosely corymbose-paniculate 
inflorescence, with some basal flowers usually born in group of three, dark 
reddish-brown young shoot/branch & peduncle and having oblong-ellipsoid red to 
brownish ripened berries.
While Berberis aristata is characterized by 8 - 25 flowered raceme 
inflorescence having no flowers in the group of three, young branch & peduncle 
brownish - green never red and fruit ovoid to oblong-ovoid, bright red to 
slightly pruinose blue berries.
By tomorrow I will try to comment individually on earlier misidentified posts 
of B. chitria present on our website.

Thanks!
With best regards
Ashutosh Sharma

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Re: [efloraofindia:432203] Vincetoxicum canescens ABMAY01/2018

[gurinder goraya]

Amazing pics Ashwini. So clear... makes taxonomy easier!

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS (Retd.)
735-B, Joginder Vihar, Army Flats, Phase-2 (Sector-54),
SAS Nagar, Mohali - 160 055 (Punjab)
Tel. (Mob.) +91-941-802-5036

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Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 3:06 PM
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Cc: Ashwini Bhatia ; Nidhan Singh 
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Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:431904] Vincetoxicum canescens ABMAY01/2018

Taking it as Vincetoxicum kenouriense (Wight) Wight, Icon. Pl. Ind. Orient., 
pl. 1614. 1850 (syn: Cynanchum kenouriense Wight, Contr. Bot. India 58. 1834.) 
as per Taxonomy of Vincetoxicum s.str. (Asclepiadoideae, Apocynaceae) from 
southern Asia including three new species and resurrected 
names-  Sayed Afzal Shah, Amir 
Sultan, Jun Wen, Zahid Ullah, Surat Un Nisa, Zhumei Ren, Muhammad Maqsood Alam, 
Javed Iqbal, Abdul Samad Mumtaz - June 2021PhytoKeys 179(1):35-73
It states "Corolla tube ca. 1 mm long, lobes oblong with obtuse apices, 3–3.5 × 
1–2 mm, glabrous within or sparse caducous trichomes present"
Thanks to the authors for solving the puzzle.

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From: Ashwini Bhatia 
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Date: Tue, 1 May 2018 at 16:18
Subject: [efloraofindia:293924] Vincetoxicum canescens ABMAY01/2018
To: efloraofindia 
mailto:indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>>


I found this milkweed near home this time. I had photographed it earlier and 
posted to the group 
here. 
Revisiting the ID, I found it to be not V. hirundinaria as the description in 
Flowers of the Himalaya states: 'Corolla c. 5mm across, with nearly hairless 
triangular lobes' and 'calyx-lobes triangular, nearly as long as corolla' for 
V. hirundinria.

The plants here have hair on the inside of corolla lobes and calyx is much 
shorter than the corolla. The description matches more closely to the Cynanchum 
glaucum in Flora Simlensis: 'Calyx about half as long as the corolla. Corolla 
hairy on the inner surface.'

Tibetan Medicinal Plant treats C. glaucum (V. glaucum) as a synonym of V. 
canescens and describes it as:

'Corolla yellow or green fading to greenish orange; tube approximately 1mm; 
lobes ovate, 2-3 x 1.5 mm, hairless outside, sparsely hirsute inside; sepals 
less than 1mm.'

But the authors treat it as part of the larger V. hirundinaria group perhaps 
because medicinal properties are similar.

FOP says: 'Perennial undershrub, c. 15-70 cm tall, erect to twining, pubescent. 
Leaves 4-7 cm x 1.8-6 cm, ovate-lanceolate or cordate, glabrous to pubescent, 
entire, acute to acuminate. Flowers clustered in the leaf axils. Pedicels 4-5 
mm long. Calyx lobes c. 1.5 mm long, lobes oblong to lanceolate, acute. Corolla 
c. 4 mm long, cream to greenish, lobes hairy on the inner surface. Corona lobes 
5, obtuse. Follicles 5-6 x 1-1.5 (-2) cm, gradually tapering towards the tip.

Fl. Per.: June-September.'

I made some measurements too:

Plants 40-80cm tall, pubescent. Leaves c. 5cm x 7cm, bottom ones smaller and 
blunt-tipped, hairy on the nerves underneath and on the edges. Flowers 
greenish-yellow c. 1cm across, 5-7 petals (lobes), smooth outside but hairy on 
the inside; sepals narrow c. 1.5-2mm each. Pedicels 4-5mm.

And since the plants are flowering at the moment, I can say Late-April is more 
correct than June.

Considering the above information, I would like to think that the plants here 
(and on our site) are V. canescens. Please advise.


Vincetoxicum canescens

Near Dal Lake, Dharamshala, HP

1800m approx.

30 April 2018



Thanks.

Ashwini







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Re: [efloraofindia:407698] Ficus for ID from Sirmour, Himachal Pradesh-GS24112021-2

[gurinder goraya]

Ficus neerifolia (=F. nemoralis) !!!

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS (Retd.)
735-B, Joginder Vihar, Army Flats, Phase-2 (Sector-54),
SAS Nagar, Mohali - 160 055 (Punjab)
Tel. (Mob.) +91-941-802-5036


From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Gurcharan Singh 
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 12:13 PM
To: efloraofindia 
Subject: [efloraofindia:407539] Ficus for ID from Sirmour, Himachal 
Pradesh-GS24112021-2

Please help with ID of Ficus species clicked from near Maa Bhangayni temple, 
Sirmour Himachal Pradesh, 25-5-2015.




Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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Re: [efloraofindia:406639] I'd requested for this ziziphus sp from Rajouri jandk

[gurinder goraya]

Ziziphus nummularia


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From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
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Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:16 PM
To: efloraofindia 
Subject: [efloraofindia:406598] I'd requested for this ziziphus sp from Rajouri 
jandk


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[efloraofindia:390985] Re: Berberis for ID from Chopta Mandal Road-GS05072021-4

[gurinder goraya]

Berberis asiatica ji.


Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS (Retd.)
735-B, Joginder Vihar, Army Flats, Phase-2 (Sector-54),
SAS Nagar, Mohali - 160 055 (Punjab)
Tel. (Mob.) +91-941-802-5036


From: Gurcharan Singh 
Sent: Monday, July 5, 2021 1:28 PM
To: efloraofindia ; gurinder 

Subject: Berberis for ID from Chopta Mandal Road-GS05072021-4


Please help with the ID of this Berberis species photographed along Chopta 
Mandal Road, Uttarakhand road, 2-6-2013.



Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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Re: [efloraofindia:390889] Fwd: MBNN Fortnight::: Berberidaceae:: Berberis for id from VOF-NS 04

[gurinder goraya]

Berberis aristata -  from the size of the plant, the colour of the fruit, the 
arrangement of fruit along the fruiting stalk...

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS (Retd.)
735-B, Joginder Vihar, Army Flats, Phase-2 (Sector-54),
SAS Nagar, Mohali - 160 055 (Punjab)
Tel. (Mob.) +91-941-802-5036


From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Gurcharan Singh 
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 6:39 PM
To: indiantreepix ; Nidhan Singh 

Subject: [efloraofindia:390853] Fwd: MBNN Fortnight::: Berberidaceae:: Berberis 
for id from VOF-NS 04

Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Berberis jaeschkeana 
?
Group discussion at
MBNN Fortnight::: Berberidaceae:: Berberis for id from VOF-NS 04 
(google.com)

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From: Nidhan Singh 
Date: Friday, October 24, 2014 at 6:41:35 PM UTC+5:30
Subject: MBNN Fortnight::: Berberidaceae:: Berberis for id from VOF-NS 04
To: indiantreepix 


Dear All,

This plant which almost grew into a tree was recorded from route to Ghanghariya 
from Gobind Ghat during VOF Trek..
Wanted to know which species this can be on the basis of these poor pics only..
Can this be a much grown individual of Berberis jaeschkeana ? which is reported 
from the area..

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Assistant Professor
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227

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Re: [efloraofindia:390887] Fwd: Berries for ID :: Govindghat - Ghangaria, Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: ARKOCT-23

[gurinder goraya]

Lonicera spp.

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS (Retd.)
735-B, Joginder Vihar, Army Flats, Phase-2 (Sector-54),
SAS Nagar, Mohali - 160 055 (Punjab)
Tel. (Mob.) +91-941-802-5036


From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Gurcharan Singh 
Sent: Saturday, July 3, 2021 8:34 PM
To: indiantreepix 
Subject: [efloraofindia:390865] Fwd: Berries for ID :: Govindghat - Ghangaria, 
Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: ARKOCT-23

Forwarding for ID
Distributed as Berberis species ?- Govindghat - Ghangaria, 
Uttarakhand
Group discussion at
Berries for ID :: Govindghat - Ghangaria, Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: ARKOCT-23 
(google.com)

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From: Alka Khare 
Date: Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 10:05:13 AM UTC+5:30
Subject: Berries for ID :: Govindghat - Ghangaria, Uttarakhand :: Aug 2018 :: 
ARKOCT-23
To: efloraofindia 


Hello friends

Saw another set of berries along the Govindghat-Ghangaria trail, Uttarakhand in 
Aug 2018.

They were bigger, around 1 inch in length.

Requested to please provide ID. Are these some Berberis as well?

Thanks and regards
Alka Khare

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Re: [efloraofindia:329856] pls identify

[gurinder goraya]

Lonicera angustifolia.

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From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:09 PM
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Subject: [efloraofindia:329843] pls identify

I saw it  near kufri Shimla during my visit in july , pls help me to know the 
scientific name

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Re: [efloraofindia:271184] Lilium polyphyllum ABJUN01/13

[gurinder goraya]

Good find Ashwini ji.


Can you forward your telephone contact. Now that I have re-joined the State 
Cadre after completing my deputation with ICFRE, Dehradun, I might visit 
Dharamshala in near future and would like to interact with you. Might be we 
plan a trek together to Taranda/ Kareri Lake


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Pr. Chief Conservator of Forests (Wildlife),
Himachal Pradesh Forest Department,
Talland, Cart Raod, Shimla - 171 001
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of Ashwini Bhatia <ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 9:51 PM
To: gurinder goraya
Cc: indiantreepix
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:271183] Lilium polyphyllum ABJUN01/13

I found this again after two years and this time in Dharamshala. A lone plant 
was growing among Sarcococca saligna cluster and I would have missed the bud if 
a friend didn't point me to it. I immediately thought of the L. polyphyllum but 
was not certain. My friend and I visited the plant thrice on alternate days and 
finally found the flower open on a rain soaked dark day yesterday. The open 
flower confirms the ID. Dr Goraya had pointed out its rarity and I carefully 
searched the area nearby for more plants but couldn't find any. I am happy for 
one though and hope to find more in future.

Thanks.
Ashwini

On 30 June 2015 at 07:38, Ashwini Bhatia 
<ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com<mailto:ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com>> wrote:
Thank you Dr Goraya. Unfortunately not realising that it’s dwindling, I did not 
make a note of numbers but remember not seeing many.

Warm regards,
Ashwini


On 29-Jun-2015, at 4:55 am, gurinder goraya 
<gurind...@hotmail.com<mailto:gurind...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Dear,

It sure is Lilium polyphyllum, a plant no more common in its habitat. Great 
capture Ashwini ji Did you make an estimate of the number of plants at the 
location?

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest, DEHRADUN-248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.

Tel: 0135-2757775 (O); 094180 25036 (Mob.);




From: ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com<mailto:ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com>
Subject: [efloraofindia:226544] Lilium polyphyllum ABJUN01/13
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:46:12 +0530
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com<mailto:indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>

I found these growing wild on slopes in Kullu. Is this Lilium polyphyllum?

Lilium polyphyllum, White Himalayan Lily
Above Gushaini, Kullu, 1700m
24 June 2015


Thanks.
Ashwini



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Re: [efloraofindia:269265] Medicinal Orchid: Habenaria intermedia AT MAY 2017/01

[gurinder goraya]

Excellent Info Dr. Anil.


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Pr. Chief Conservator of Forests (Wildlife),
Himachal Pradesh Forest Department,
Talland, Cart Raod, Shimla - 171 001
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



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Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 11:41 PM
To: efloraofindia
Subject: [efloraofindia:269249] Medicinal Orchid: Habenaria intermedia AT MAY 
2017/01

MEDICINAL USES OF Habenaria intermedia
FROM MY BLOG

http://anilkthakur.blogspot.in/2014/07/


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Re: [efloraofindia:268317] Re: Plant id from Shimla hills

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,


Drimmia (Urgenia) indica is in flowering these days in Shimla hills. The first 
to emerge is the flowering stock and the basal rosette of leaves will emerge in 
the days to come. I also have noticed the species growing at about 2100m 
altitude near Mashobra (Shimla) the last Sunday.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
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Talland, Cart Raod, Shimla - 171 001
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From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
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Sent: Friday, May 5, 2017 5:08 AM
To: D.S Rawat
Cc: efloraofindia; taxonomyofficia...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:268314] Re: Plant id from Shimla hills

Thanks, Rawat ji

On 4 May 2017 2:09 p.m., "D.S Rawat" 
> wrote:
Interesting!
Resemble to Drimmia 
indica.
 Not know whether D.indica is distributed in temperate elevations in Himachal 
Pradesh.
Basal rosette of leaves is not photographed. Probably lacking at flowering time 
(?). Leaves develop after flowering is over in D.indica (=Urginea indica).
DSRawat Pantnagar

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 10:51:27 AM UTC+5:30, taxonomyofficial65 wrote:
Habit: Leafless Herb
Habitat: Wild on a slopy mountain
location: Shimla, H.P
Date: 26/4/2017

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[efloraofindia:264687] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster acuminatus from Himachal-GSG21/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Mr. Chadwell for getting the species determined from the expert. I'll 
update my records accordingly.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 5:13 PM
To: efloraofindia
Cc: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster acuminatus from 
Himachal-GSG21/Sept 2015

Jeanette Fryer has DETERMINED this as Cotoneaster nepalensis Andre - this is 
the same Series ACUMINATI as C.acuminatus but a separate species - the two taxa 
have been mixed-up in the past.

Fryer states in her book on Cotoneasters under C.acuminatus that several 
descriptions of C.acuminatus are unfortunately based on C.nepalensis.  The two 
species can be separated on the basis that C.nepalensis has fertile shoots 
15-35mm with 2-8 flowers, whereas those of C.acuminatus are mostly 10-20 mm, 
with single or paired flowers.  According to the Cotoneaster book C.acuminatus 
is recorded from Nepal, Sikkim & Ladakh possible also Pakistan.  I cannot but 
wonder about Sikkim and Ladakh as a distribution?

The above image - there is only a single image with flowers not fully opened, 
no shots of undersides of leaves nor sterile shoots which makes it harder to 
reliably name - but clearly with more than 2 flowers.

Cotoneaster nepalensis is recorded from H.P. and Uttaranachal.

Please note that there is also C.parkeri, which is closely related to 
C.acuminatus.

On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 4:55:09 AM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Cotoneaster acuminatus. Photographed from near Narkanda.



[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/1850b52b225a1c/Cotoneaster%20acuminatus-flowers.JPG?part=0.1=0]




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Re: [efloraofindia:264686] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster microphyllus from Himachal-GSG24/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Mr. Chadwell,


Thanks for getting the correct identity of the species in my post.


As suggested, I'll try to click more photographs of this group in my future 
forays in its habitat.


Regards,


Gurinder


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2017 5:35 AM
To: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Cc: gurinder; efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:264669] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster 
microphyllus from Himachal-GSG24/Sept 2015

Thanks,  Chadwell ji

On 27 Feb 2017 6:57 p.m., 
"chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>" 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
Jeanette Fryer has named this as Cotoneaster marginatus Lindley ex Loudon 
Series Microphylii NOT C.microphyllus - which as other posts have indicated is, 
strictly speaking, only recorded from Nepal.

C.marginatus has been recorded from H.P., Uttarakhand and Nepal.

On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 5:06:01 AM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Cotoneaster microphyllus.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/18514ccfdddaae/Cotoneaster%20microphyllus.JPG?part=0.1=0]



[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/18514ccfdddaae/Cotoneaster%20microphyllus-fruit.JPG?part=0.2=0]



Regards,

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Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

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Re: [efloraofindia:264347] Fwd: Picrorhiza kurrooa cultivated in botanical garden in Kashmir - plus a method of SUSTAINABLE collection in the wild

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,


The debate about assigning red-list categories to some taxa assessed to be 
facing one or the other category of threat on account of excessive/ destructive 
removals from their natural habitats or loss/ degradation of the natural 
habitats is likely to continue forever. Protagonists for both the sides are 
aplenty. In my experience on the subject of over more than twenty years, I 
treat this debate as a typical case of tussle between the taxonomists and the 
conservationists. In many cases, both the parties seem to be far away from the 
ground reality as there usually is a wide time lapse between the time of actual 
field surveys and the time of making the threat assessment. Threat per se is 
sure a matter of perception. One person records a good grove of an otherwise 
uncommon tree species and records it as common. The other person observes the 
same grove and records it as endangered due to paucity of regeneration. The 
major issue is whether the species under consideration is continuing to occupy 
the areas in its natural range of occurrence it was occupying say twenty/ 
thirty years back! If the area under such occupation is reduced over time and/ 
or regeneration seems to be a problem, then there sure is an issue. Red-listing 
only flags such issues and brings such species under management focus.


I concede to Mr. Chadwell's point to the extent that more serious surveys are 
required to assign a threat status to a species. The issue has, however, long 
been settled and personally I agree to it. The reigning principle now is to 
assign a red-list status to a species on the basis of whatever recent knowledge 
about the population status and threats is available. This red-list 
categorisation is then followed by extensive field surveys and PHVA (population 
and habitat viability analysis). The species is again taken up for threat 
evaluation on the basis of field surveys and red-list category could be 
changed/ reversed based on the information. Thus, threat categorisation/ 
red-listing is, thus, a preemptive measure to save the genetic range of a 
species perceived to be under threat.


I cite the typical case of Colchicum luteum from Lahaul valley. The species has 
not been reported from the area in the district floras. However, during one 
threat assessment exercise a local person from Lahaul insisted that the species 
is present in the area and that extent of its occurrence has drastically shrunk 
over the years. I thereafter mounted a survey for the species in Lahaul and 
recorded the occurrence of species at various locations around Kukumseri 
(Udaipur). Now a 3 hectare plot containing about 300 plants of this species has 
been closed as in situ reserve.


Coming specifically to Karu (Picrorhiza kurroa), the species has fairly vast 
range of occurrence and makes dense mats wherever it occurs. The cause of worry 
is the rising commercial demand of the rhizomes of this species that has grown 
to more than 1000 metric tonne (dry weight) now. To meet this demand, the wild 
gatherers have now taken to camping at higher altitudes for months together and 
uproot the entire colonies of this species from a location. I have, during my 
field visits over time, have noticed the Karu colonies vanish at many places. 
It is correct that the leftover rootstock will help the colonies spring back, 
but it will happen only if the the area is left unexploited for 2-3 years. 
Alas, it is not happening! Wild populations of Picrorhiza kurroa have taken a 
good beating over the past about 20 years. At many places the dug up areas have 
been taken over by Phlomis sp., Cirsium sp., Rumex sp., etc. leaving no space 
for re-establishment of Karu.


In as far as the sustainable harvest practices are concerned, India has some 
very old traditions of cyclic sustainable harvest. The most common one linked 
to harvest of underground parts of temperate and alpine herbs is to start such 
harvest only from bees bhadon (twentieth of the Indian month of Bhadon, usually 
corresponding to the first week of September) after paying obeisance to the 
local deity. It was considered that by this time the roots would have 
accumulated the required alkaloids and the seeds would have fallen ensuring 
regeneration. There are also forest-wise management prescriptions in place for 
rotational harvest under which an area opens up for harvesting once in 4 years. 
The question is not about the systems, but it is about the implementation of 
these systems. In a situation where the harvest of medicinal herbs forms one of 
the key opportunities of cash income, it is rather difficult to implement the 
prescriptions. It is sad but true. The issue gets compounded with increasing 
grazing pressure in these areas. With no other means of sustaining livelihoods, 
grazing in these areas is not a matter of choice. It is a compulsion.


Various programs are nevertheless going on to involve the local communities, 
including graziers, in management of 

Re: [efloraofindia:262636] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Potentilla peduncularis from Himachal-GSG42/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Mr. Chadwell,


Thanks for pointing out the mis-identification by me. It sure is not Potentilla 
peduncularis. Another case of casual matching of images with something similar 
looking and arriving at identification! I'll try to be more careful in future.


Kindly, help in identification of the species.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of chrischadwell...@btinternet.com <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2017 8:12 AM
To: efloraofindia
Cc: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:261974] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Potentilla peduncularis 
from Himachal-GSG42/Sept 2015

This does NOT match Potentilla peduncularis - a species not recorded from H.P. 
but not found further West than Nepal.

There are quite a lot of Potentillas in H.P., some of which I am not familiar 
with yet.  I shall take another look at this when time
permits - though have a pretty good idea what it probably is.

You will agree that this does not look at all like the other Potentilla from 
Ladakh which has been posted under the same name.

On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 12:39:19 PM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Potentilla peduncularis. From alpine meadows.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/18b89e20d720f5/Potentilla%20peduncularis.JPG?part=0.1=0]




Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

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Re: [efloraofindia:262633] Fwd: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Mr. Chadwell,


Yes you are right. All along Baspa river from Sangla to near Chhitkul, there is 
a good occurrence of Hippophae salicifolia, a fairly large shrub, even along 
the road. The fruits are very sour and the local people make paste/ syrup of 
this and use in making curries.


Hipphophae tibetana, on the other hand, is a low rigid shrub, that I have seen 
only beyond Chhitkul (alt. = 3350 m asl) along the moist/ marshy banks of river 
Baspa.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:57 PM
To: gurinder goraya; J.M. Garg; efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:262622] Fwd: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI

I would be interested in viewing these.

I recollect seeing a different Hippophae further down the Baspa Valley at 
Sangla - what
I took to be H.salicifolia during a short visit in the 1990s.


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk<http://www.shpa.org.uk/>
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www.shpa.org.uk
Chris Chadwell - Freelance Lecturer, Botanist, Himalaya Specialist, Travel and 
Plant Photographer, Freelance photo-journalist








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From: gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com>
To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>; efloraofindia 
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Cc: "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Friday, 27 January 2017, 13:35
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:262508] Fwd: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI

Dears,

I have seen thickets of this species along river Baspa near Chhitkul in 
Kinnaur, Himachal Pradesh, and should be having photographs of this species 
that I would need to dig out from my archives. May take time.


Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:13 AM
To: efloraofindia
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:262508] Fwd: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI

Thanks a lot,  Chadwell ji.
-- Forwarded message --
From: "C CHADWELL" 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>>
Date: 27 Jan 2017 12:02 a.m.
Subject: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmga...@gmail.com<mailto:jmga...@gmail.com>>
Cc:

I attach an image taken by Peter Curzon during the British & Royal Nepalese Army
Expedition to Mt. Kirat Chuli in Eastern Nepal in 1985.  Originally taken as a 
slide then
scanned in.

Flowers of Himalaya says riversides & stony moraines @ 3300-4500m from H.P. to 
SE Tibet.
In Nepal in the drier inner valleys only.

Flora of Bhutan records this from dry gravelly or rocky places, especially on 
riverbeds @
3650-4700m.

Strangely, in 'Flora of Lahaul-Spiti' this species is given as a synonym of 
what was H.rhamnoides
subsp. turkestanica.

I do not know where in H.P. this species has been recorded from?  Perhaps 
members have seen
this in H.P. or Uttarakhand?


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk<http://www.shpa.org.uk/>




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Re: [efloraofindia:262619] Fwd: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,


I have seen thickets of this species along river Baspa near Chhitkul in 
Kinnaur, Himachal Pradesh, and should be having photographs of this species 
that I would need to dig out from my archives. May take time.



Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of J.M. Garg 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 7:13 AM
To: efloraofindia
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:262508] Fwd: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI


Thanks a lot,  Chadwell ji.

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From: "C CHADWELL" 
>
Date: 27 Jan 2017 12:02 a.m.
Subject: Hippophae tibetana Schltr. - new to eFI
To: "J.M. Garg" >
Cc:

I attach an image taken by Peter Curzon during the British & Royal Nepalese Army
Expedition to Mt. Kirat Chuli in Eastern Nepal in 1985.  Originally taken as a 
slide then
scanned in.

Flowers of Himalaya says riversides & stony moraines @ 3300-4500m from H.P. to 
SE Tibet.
In Nepal in the drier inner valleys only.

Flora of Bhutan records this from dry gravelly or rocky places, especially on 
riverbeds @
3650-4700m.

Strangely, in 'Flora of Lahaul-Spiti' this species is given as a synonym of 
what was H.rhamnoides
subsp. turkestanica.

I do not know where in H.P. this species has been recorded from?  Perhaps 
members have seen
this in H.P. or Uttarakhand?


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk





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Re: [efloraofindia:262382] Re: Datylorhiza hatagirea sensu lato in HP & Uttarakhand

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,


Thanks to Mr. Chadwell for his insightful comments.


The issue of 'better' or 'inferior' quality tubers would perhaps need more 
study. Dactylorhiza tubers with five fingers are also quite common. I'll try to 
make another trip to the typical habitat of the species to get more info this 
year. Other members including DS Rawat, Anil Thakur, Ashwini, who are actively 
exploring western-Himalayan flora may take up this issue as a challenge and 
come together to resolve this by the end of this year.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 3:56 AM
To: gurinder goraya; Pankaj Kumar; efloraofindia; J. M. Garg
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261724] Re: Datylorhiza hatagirea sensu lato in HP 
& Uttarakhand

Interesting.   Thanks for sending these images.

Let me start with the common habitat - certainly rich and varied.  I seem to be 
able to make
out Anemone obtusiloba, Geum elatum (maybe), Potentilla atrosanguinea 
(probably), Iris (could
probably work out which species) and could, also, probably decide upon some 
other plants there.

The average dry weight of the 'tubers' would be of interest, allowing an 
estimate of the numbers of
individual plants dug up.

So your estimate was dry weight meaning that the harvested weight of orchids 
would have by say 10x
as much.  Wow.

Certainly would be useful to the authorities if one can READILY separate the 
FRESH (and partially dried)
tubers and even the dried tubers on morphological characteristics.

On the basis of your images, I would say, looking at the tubers that the orchid 
which had been dug-up
between Khelanmarg & Gulmarg, images of which I posted recently, was 
Dactylorhiza hatagirea sensu lato
rather than the Gymnadenia.

I will look at the immature fruits and surrounding parts and see, now I have 
some reference images of G.
orchidis to check, which of the two species they seem to fit best.  HOPEFULLY 
this will agree.  But I am
quite prepared to say if I think it does not or I cannot decide.

I have a copy of 'Clear Mirror of Paintings of Tibetan Medicinal Plants' by 
Dawa which includes dbang-lag - this,
on the basis of its flowers and now your images of tubers fits with G.orchidis. 
  It had been named as G. sp.

According to an early medieval text 2 forms of dbang-lag are known - SUPERIOR 
and INFERIOR (such a separation
occurs for many Tibetan plants).  According to this the tubers with 5 fingers 
are SUPERIOR - those with less than 5,
INFERIOR.  My INITIAL thinking is that it may be that GYMNADENIA ORCHIDIS 
tubers represent the 'superior' type.

Assuming the distinction is VALID, then in Ladakh, where ONLY the Dactylorhiza 
is found, only the INFERIOR form
is available.  In Tibetan Medicine I regularly come across references to it 
being known that the SUPERIOR forms
come from particular parts of the Himalaya and not others.

IF e.g. you are an amchi in Ladakh and cannot assess raw material from 
E.Himalaya which has SOME of the SUPERIOR
forms of plants used in Tibetan Medicine, then you must MAKE DO with what you 
can obtain.

I know little about Ayuvedic Medicine - do such distinctions occur?

Another aspect which I am especially curious about is the ALTITUDE a plant is 
gathered at for medicinal purposes.
GENERALLY-SPEAKING, in Tibetan Medicine, the HIGHER the ELEVATION material is 
collected from, the more 'potent'/
'better quality' it is considered to be.   Indeed the original medieval texts 
can dictate that material can ONLY be gathered
towards the upper altitudinal limit - in some cases.



Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


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SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

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____
From: gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com>
To: Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>; efloraofindia 
<indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>; J. M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>; C CHADWELL 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 24 January 2017, 15:24
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261724] Re: Datylorhiza hatagirea sensu lato in HP 
& Uttarakhand

Dears,

Find attached four more photographs of Dactylorhiza hatageria and Gymnadenia 
orchidis showing (a) common habitat; (b) freshly dug tubers of Dactylorhiza 
hatageria; (c) freshly dug tubers of Gymnadenia orchidis; and (d) comparative 
image of tubers of both these species.

The estimated consumption of Dactylorhiza tubers I have shared with you in my 
previous mail is based on dry weight only. I don't have dried samples o

Re: [efloraofindia:261727] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks. I'll try to revisit the site this year to have better appreciation of 
the situation.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:42 AM
To: gurinder goraya; J.M. Garg
Cc: efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261725] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from 
Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015

Thanks for supplying the information.

My records indicate that Rosa brunonii has not been found below 1220m before so 
800m is significantly
lower.

Given its low altitude and thus proximity to habitation the appearance of being 
wild COULD just mean it
has naturalised.

Interesting.

Please note my other comments as to the challenges of identifying roses.




Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

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www.shpa.org.uk
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Plant Photographer, Freelance photo-journalist








________
From: gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com>
To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>; "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 18 January 2017, 0:54
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261722] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from 
Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015

Dears,

I have photographed these roses from the same locality in Himachal Pradesh - 
about 800 m asl near Sundernagar in Mandi district. Of all the wild plants, 
only one plant was having pinkish flowers.

I have not had the chance to revisit the locality again.

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:43 AM
To: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Cc: efloraofindia; gurinder
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261661] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from 
Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015

Thanks, Chadwell ji.

On 17 January 2017 at 06:10, 
chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
It would be helpful to know where and at what altitude in H.P. these roses were 
found?   The 'pink' flowered one does not seem to match the first two
images.  Were they from different locations?

Pink-flowered variants of Rosa brunonii are known from Bhutan, so the flower 
colour alone does not preclude it from being R.brunonii.

See my posts about the COMPLEXITIES of the genus Rosa.

Rosa brunonii seems to be the widespread climbing rose typically with white or 
cream flowers.  But other species (and cultivated hybrids) are known.
My post about Rosa in Britain & Ireland indicates that a leading specialist who 
is currently acting as Referee for specimens of Rosa states that one cannot
DETERMINE a species of Rosa in the UK on the basis of flowers alone!   
FULLY-DEVELOPED HIPS are required along with portions of leading stem (not
suckers) with leaves and characteristic bristles; a sample of sepals is 
beneficial...

On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 5:15:10 PM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Find below pics of Rosa moschata (R. brunonii) from Himachal Pradesh. Usually 
having white flowers, I have recorded one plant with pinkish flowers.. Hope it 
is also the same species with some colour variation... or may be a result of 
some hybridisation.. Comments are solicited pl.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata-1.JPG?part=0.1=0]





[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata%20(2).JPG?part=0.2=0]




[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata-pink.JPG?part=0.3=0]




Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)
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Re: [efloraofindia:261726] Re: Datylorhiza hatagirea sensu lato in HP & Uttarakhand

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,


May I join you all in this very interesting and meaningful debate on 
Dactylorhiza hatageria and Gymnadenia orchisdis.


During the course of our field visits to the Great Himalayan National Park in 
Himachal Pradesh, we have seen both these species growing together at altitude 
of about 3500 m asl. Had we not stopped for savouring the beauty of these 
spikes with many hues of pink emerging from the alpine grass mat and for 
clicking their pictures, we would have passed these as Dactylorhiza hatageria 
only. It was only close interaction with these that we could notice occurrence 
of Gymnadenia orchidis mixed with that of Dactylorhiza. None of the local 
people accompanying our group as porters and routinely making wild collection 
of medicinal herbs was able to differentiate between the two and were 
collecting both as 'Salam Panja'. I have NOT noticed Gymnadenia orchidis from 
Lahaul valley yet, even as have seen Dactylorhiza hatageria in may grasslands, 
especially along small water channels criss crossing these grasslands.


I have been regularly interacting with local people in Himachal Pradesh about 
the expanse of occurrence of Dactylorhiza hatageria as part of our continuous 
efforts to understand the wild harvest of the species. I have recently 
completed a national study to assess demand of medicinal plants in India. An 
annual consumption of more than 10 metric ton of the entity traded as 'salam 
panja' (Dactylorhiza hatageria) has been estimated based on consumption data 
collected from the domestic herbal industry and traders. A part of this annual 
need (about 6 metric ton) is being met from 'Salam Panja' raw drug received as 
LoC trade. The remaining matching annual quantity is being collected from the 
wild in J, Himachal Pradesh, and Uttarakhand with some quantity in trade 
traced back to Arunachal Pradesh. Obviously what is being traded as 'salam 
panja' is a mix of species.


Coming back to the status in the wild, a severe depletion in the wild 
populations of Dactylorhiza hatageria has been reported in Himachal Pradesh 
with regeneration not matching with the annual removals of its tubers. At many 
places the habitat of the species - grass lands with good flow of water in mini 
channels - has severely dwindled. The species has been assessed as of 
'conservation concern' and some efforts towards establishing its nursery and 
plantation techniques have been initiated, with no great success reported till 
now. Any idea about how to propagate the species?


I'll locate photographs of both these species clicked during my GHNP visit and 
share with you in a day or two.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Pankaj Kumar 
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:33 AM
To: C CHADWELL
Cc: J.M. Garg; efloraofindia
Subject: [efloraofindia:261724] Re: Datylorhiza hatagirea sensu lato in HP & 
Uttarakhand

Dear Sir
"This means that it is legitimate for amchis (doctors of traditional Tibetan 
Medicine in Bhutan are known as dungtshos) long resident in Ladakh AND those 
based a MEN-TSEE-KHANG to collect material for herbal formulations  - provided 
it carried out in a responsible fashion."

No that doesn't make it legitimate for amchis to collect. According to Indian 
laws, they (indian tribals) have the right to collect from their area. Not all 
Amchis are native indian tribes. Many of them are refugees from Tibet who have 
limited rights. Please also remember that many of these amchis dont collect 
plants by themselves, but they hire locals or even outsiders to supply plants 
to them. How much they collect depends on how much money they want to earn.

Infact when the red data book of Indian plants was published in 1986, 
Dactylorhiza hatagirea was assessed to be Critically Endangered but many 
disagreed to it including myself. No doubt there has been immense collection of 
it but as I said above a particular elevation it is common as per my personal 
observation, but may be it was more common decades ago.

Yes Amchis are accepted in Indian Traditional Medicine but I believe many 
plants are being sold out of India legally or illegally. For example plants 
like Cordyceps are collected in India but used mainly in Chinese Traditional 
medicine. Never heard of it being used in India. So you can see the violation 
of Indian law here. Recently we examined tubers from Hong Kong market and 
through barcoding we found out that they were Gymnadenia orchidis although the 
bag was labelled as Dactylorhiza. You will be shocked that in the name of deer 
femur, we have seen dog femur being sold in Chinese traditional medicine shop.

I just feel that they adulterate to make more and easy money or just that they 

Re: [efloraofindia:261723] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa macrophylla from Himachal-GSG01/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Chadwell ji for the compliments.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:38 AM
To: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Cc: efloraofindia; gurinder
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261649] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa macrophylla 
from Himachal-GSG01/Sept 2015

Thanks, Chadwell ji.

On 16 January 2017 at 23:13, 
chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
Correctly identified as Rosa macrophylla - lovely images again.

On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 5:09:23 PM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Himachal Pradesh has four (?) species of native Rose species. I'll try to share 
photographs of all these four species vide this mail and the following mails.

The following are the images of flowers and fruits of Rosa macrophylla.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17db9d2a30c5df/Rosa%20macrophylla-P1030131.JPG?part=0.1=0]






[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17db9d2a30c5df/Rosa%20macrophylla-fruit%20(ripe).JPG?part=0.2=0]




Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

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Re: [efloraofindia:261721] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,


I have photographed these roses from the same locality in Himachal Pradesh - 
about 800 m asl near Sundernagar in Mandi district. Of all the wild plants, 
only one plant was having pinkish flowers.


I have not had the chance to revisit the locality again.


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 9:43 AM
To: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Cc: efloraofindia; gurinder
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:261661] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa moschata from 
Himachal-GSG02/Sept 2015

Thanks, Chadwell ji.

On 17 January 2017 at 06:10, 
chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
It would be helpful to know where and at what altitude in H.P. these roses were 
found?   The 'pink' flowered one does not seem to match the first two
images.  Were they from different locations?

Pink-flowered variants of Rosa brunonii are known from Bhutan, so the flower 
colour alone does not preclude it from being R.brunonii.

See my posts about the COMPLEXITIES of the genus Rosa.

Rosa brunonii seems to be the widespread climbing rose typically with white or 
cream flowers.  But other species (and cultivated hybrids) are known.
My post about Rosa in Britain & Ireland indicates that a leading specialist who 
is currently acting as Referee for specimens of Rosa states that one cannot
DETERMINE a species of Rosa in the UK on the basis of flowers alone!   
FULLY-DEVELOPED HIPS are required along with portions of leading stem (not
suckers) with leaves and characteristic bristles; a sample of sepals is 
beneficial...

On Thursday, September 10, 2015 at 5:15:10 PM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Find below pics of Rosa moschata (R. brunonii) from Himachal Pradesh. Usually 
having white flowers, I have recorded one plant with pinkish flowers.. Hope it 
is also the same species with some colour variation... or may be a result of 
some hybridisation.. Comments are solicited pl.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata-1.JPG?part=0.1=0]





[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata%20(2).JPG?part=0.2=0]




[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/17dbedc7592d10/Rosa%20moschata-pink.JPG?part=0.3=0]




Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

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Re: [efloraofindia:260234] Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Mr. Chadwell,


Thanks for the compliments. I sure will try to contribute more such images of 
high Himalayan plants.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:51 AM
To: gurinder goraya; efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:260183] Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

I enjoyed your images particularly the one showing the pods so well combined
with a distant view of the mountains.  Such 'habitat' shots are so informative 
- it
really is important to know and understand the conditions under which a plant 
grows,
rather than just its identity.  Such insights are often completely missing from 
pressed
specimens in herbaria (regardless of their quality) as accompanying field notes 
are so
often minimal to zero and even when detailed cannot match what a good photo 
imparts.
Field experience and knowledge is under-valued and something contributing 
members of
this group can contribute much valuable information towards by posting their 
images.

Do share more such images of a variety of species with us.  My compliments.

As to identity.  The broadly winged fruits appear quite distinctive (not that I 
have gone
into the Brassicaceae family in any detail yet) and as far as is thought at 
present, only
1 species to consider - which always comes as a relief! Of course we must 
always STEEL
ourselves for a future revision to recognise additional taxa.  Plus someone 
check that
there has not been a nomenclatural or taxonomic change as far as genus or 
family is
concerned


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


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From: gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com>
To: "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>; 
efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2016, 3:31
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:259925] Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

Dears,

I have dug up a couple of images I clicked at altitude of about 4000 m asl in 
September 2014 while on a trek to a high altitude lake in Shimla district of 
Himachal Pradesh. I am attaching these two images I think are of Megacarpaea 
polyandra.

Kindly confirm.

Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of chrischadwell...@btinternet.com <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 6:58 AM
To: efloraofindia
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:259592] Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

Thanks for your interesting comments Dr Rawat.

Hopefully, members can now spot and post better, digital images including 
quality close-ups of this plant.   I find many
Apiaceae have attractive or at least curious parts to them, well worth showing 
in detail - as I do when giving digital presentations
on 'Wild Flowers of Britain' to audiences in the UK.   I will check my images 
of UK members of this family and if any
exhibiting such characteristics belong to genera or, ideally, species found in 
the Himalaya, may post some.

Many people in the UK will "dismiss" or walk past plants belonging to 
particular families or genera viewing them of rather 'weedy
appearance' missing genuine beauty if they examined them more closely.

I have been "Hit" by the additional detail my digital images bring when 
examining UK plants closely in the past couple of years compared
with what I had seen with the naked eye and hand lens back in the 1980s when I 
worked for a couple of years a field-surveyor of plants. I
also notice the extra detail I can see compared with the books published at 
that time containing photographs of British Wild Flowers.  How
fortunate we are nowadays.

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 7:47:05 AM UTC, JM Garg wrote:
Thanks, Chadwell ji.

-- Forwarded message --
From: C CHADWELL <chrischa...@btinternet. com>
Date: 18 December 2016 at 12:45
Subject: Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


Yes - again!See attached.


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

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Re: [efloraofindia:256550] Re: Campanulaceae & Gentianaceae Fortnight: Gentiana kurroo from Himachal : GSG-09

[gurinder goraya]

vidence above 
not everyone can recognise it) but many gentians are misidentified.  In the UK 
this plant was introduced into cultivation in the 1920s but despite being 
offered by a number of specialist nurseries and regularly in seed exchanges, I 
suspect the genuine article has not been grown there for decades.  My informal 
research suggests that AT LEAST 50% of all plants in specialist nurseries, 
available from seed companies, in society seed exchanges and even many botanic 
garden Index Semina, are misidentified.

I had not come across this gentian before.  The fact that I had help in 
locating it does not mean it is automatically rare.  I have spent very little 
time @ 1800-2700m, more interested in higher mountain plants, often passing 
through as rapidly as possible or missing out on such elevations altogether.  
2700m is about the lowest part of Ladakh (and much of the Indian TransHimalaya 
(where it does not grow).  I have trekked from near Sonamarg in Kashmir a 
number of times, which if my memory is correct is around this elevation, so 
missed out the 1800-2700m part using a road.   And of course not all of these 
elevations have suitable habitat for Gentiana kurroo, especially if it has a 
propensity for base-rich rocks/soils?  IF that is the case, then looking for it 
on acidic rocks would be pointless.  It would certainly be 'critically 
endangered' in such habitat!!

So let me finish with the plant's occurrence in Pakistan.  I contributed 4 
photos to 'Wild Flowers of Pakistan' by Nasir & Rafiq (Edited & its publication 
paid for by Tom Roberts, another Britisher).  They list Gentiana kurroo (under 
the name Gentianodes kurroo - see Gentianceae in 'Flora of Pakistan') as the 
largest flowered of Pakistan's gentians being LOCALLY COMMON on grassy slopes 
especially in Murree Hills & Abbottabad district.   This hardly tallies with 
the claim it is 'Critically Endangered'.


Why would the authors include a species that those who bought a copy of their 
book did not have a chance of seeing?  There are many Gentians in Pakistan.  
They described and illustrated only a small number in this book.


On Friday, July 11, 2014 at 12:08:38 PM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Gentiana kurroo from Himachal [Sangrah, Dist. Sirmour, 1700 m asl].

This Indian Gentian forming source of medicinally important 'Trieman' roots, 
has been assessed as Critically Endangered in the wild. I feel happy to share 
that our focused efforts have resulted in identification of perhaps the last 
remnant viable population of this species on precipitous grassy slopes near 
Sangrah in Kinnaur district of Himachal. This site bearing an estimated 500 
plants of this species has been demarcated and set aside as Medicinal Plant 
Conservation Area (MPCA) as an in situ conservation measure for this species. 
Some photographs from this area...



[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/d8c3b3b01b5dc124/Gentiana%20kurroo.jpg?part=0.1=0]




[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/d8c3b3b01b5dc124/Gentiana%20kurroo-01.JPG?part=0.2=0]



[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/d8c3b3b01b5dc124/Gentiana%20kurroo-02.JPG?part=0.3=0]


Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.

Tel & Fax (O): 0135-2757775

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Re: [efloraofindia:255500] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster falconeri from Himachal-GSG23/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Dr. Chadwell,


Thanks for your quick response.


Western Himalayan flora is sure very fascinating. Being in the field most of 
the time, we have little access to the literature and most of our 
identification is based on force-matching of species with the publications 
available at hand - the most commonly referred being the 'Flowers of the 
Himalaya'. You are very right that many western Himalayan plant groups need 
more work - Saussurea, Berberis, Primulas, Gentians, Cotoneaster, Artemisia, 
Brassicaseae, Legumes being some of the prominent groups needing critical 
inputs.


In as far as my 'Cotoneaster falconeri' (?) is concerned, the photograph is 
from Sangla valley in Kinnaur (about 3300 m asl). There are some more 
Cotoneaster species from the Cold deserts that I have photographed over the 
years, but are awaiting sorting out. I'll try to do so in the coming days.


Regards,


Gurinder


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 6:28 PM
To: gurinder goraya; J.M. Garg
Cc: efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:255465] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster 
falconeri from Himachal-GSG23/Sept 2015

Dear Dr Goraya

Of course it is much quicker and easier to say which species a specimen is not 
rather than what it is.
Cotoneaster certainly presents challenges.   As mentioned it may take some time 
before I hear back from
Jeanette as she invariably has a back-log of material to check.

Do you have a approximate location and altitude for where this plant was 
photographed?  Also, any
additional photos would be most helpful.

There is a long and fine tradition of Forestry Officers taking an interest in 
the flora of Indian Himalaya.

I have got to know a grandson of B.O.Coventry, a Conservator of Forests in NW 
Himalaya during the British days,
who produced 'Wild Flowers of Kashmir'.


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

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From: gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com>
To: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>; "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Cc: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 November 2016, 9:33
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:255381] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster 
falconeri from Himachal-GSG23/Sept 2015

Thanks Dr. Chadwell.

I would be eagerly looking forward to the correct identity of the species in 
photograph.

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 10:05 AM
To: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Cc: gurinder; efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:255381] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster 
falconeri from Himachal-GSG23/Sept 2015

Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 2 Nov 2016 4:39 am, 
"chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>" 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
This is not Cotoneaster falconeri..

I am beginning a check on Cotoneasters posted on this site.  Unfortunately, I 
suspect a majority are misidentified.  Will be sending available images to 
Jeanette Fryer (on a CD she does not use e-mail).  She was co-author with the 
late Bertil Hylmo of 'Cotoneasters' (2009) - the most knowledgeable person on 
the genus.  She is always busy with other identification tasks so will 
certainly take weeks perhaps months before we hear but worth the wait.

I hope her determinations (accurate identifications) will encourage members to 
take a greater interest in this neglected genus, photographing more species.   
There is every possibility of locating species new to science within this genus.

It makes sense, when those with specialist knowledge are available to name 
material to take full advantage.  The present situation with the naming of 
Cotoneaters in Indian herbaria is in need of improvement.  Many specimens are 
very old and/or in poor condition, of a scrappy nature in the first place.


On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 5:03:19 AM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Cotoneaster falconeri. Photographed in Sangla valley, Kinnaur.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/at

Re: [efloraofindia:255442] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster falconeri from Himachal-GSG23/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Dr. Chadwell.


I would be eagerly looking forward to the correct identity of the species in 
photograph.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2016 10:05 AM
To: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Cc: gurinder; efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:255381] Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Cotoneaster 
falconeri from Himachal-GSG23/Sept 2015


Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 2 Nov 2016 4:39 am, 
"chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>" 
<chrischadwell...@btinternet.com<mailto:chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>> wrote:
This is not Cotoneaster falconeri..


I am beginning a check on Cotoneasters posted on this site.  Unfortunately, I 
suspect a majority are misidentified.  Will be sending available images to 
Jeanette Fryer (on a CD she does not use e-mail).  She was co-author with the 
late Bertil Hylmo of 'Cotoneasters' (2009) - the most knowledgeable person on 
the genus.  She is always busy with other identification tasks so will 
certainly take weeks perhaps months before we hear but worth the wait.



I hope her determinations (accurate identifications) will encourage members to 
take a greater interest in this neglected genus, photographing more species.   
There is every possibility of locating species new to science within this genus.



It makes sense, when those with specialist knowledge are available to name 
material to take full advantage.  The present situation with the naming of 
Cotoneaters in Indian herbaria is in need of improvement.  Many specimens are 
very old and/or in poor condition, of a scrappy nature in the first place.


On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 5:03:19 AM UTC+1, gurinder goraya wrote:
Dears,

Cotoneaster falconeri. Photographed in Sangla valley, Kinnaur.


[https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix/attach/1851272090bfae/Cotoneaster%20falconeri.JPG?part=0.1=0]




Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

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Re: [efloraofindia:255172] Re: Hatoo (Narkanda, Shimla, H.P.) AT OCT2016/12

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,


'The Chor' is the famous 'Churdhar' that Sir Collect approached from Chopal 
(Sarahan) side.


Mr. Chadwell is correct. Species like Lilium polyphyllum and Habenaria sussane 
that were recorded as common in Shimla hills by Sir Collect have almost 
vanished from the Shimla hills due to change in landuse and increasing biotic 
pressure on these forests. Even the highly protected Shimla Water Catchment 
forests that used to house many exacting species like Cyperipedium cordigerum 
over acres, have lost that sheen. Now one has to actually exert to locate one - 
probably the last remnant - specimen of these species here.


Regards,


Gurinder





Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)



From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com  on behalf 
of Anil Thakur 
Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2016 10:20 AM
To: C CHADWELL
Cc: J. M. Garg; efloraofindia; Nidhan Singh
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:255158] Re: Hatoo (Narkanda, Shimla, H.P.) AT 
OCT2016/12


The planting of Apple orchards has affected the mountain ecosystems badly. The 
native vegetation has been cleared in favour of cash crops. Apples have 
replaced Chilgosa pine and other native vegetation in Kinnaur. The recent flash 
floods in that area are attributed to ecological degradation.

Regards

On Oct 29, 2016 10:12 AM, "Anil Thakur" 
> wrote:

Respected Chadwell
You are absolutely right. NBPGR is National Bureau of Plant Genetic Resources.
Population of India has nearly doubled during the last 50 years. Manali, Shimla 
and all other small towns in the hills have expanded to forest areas. 
Vegetation has been cleared for construction as well as for fodder. This has 
lead to the disappearance of many rare and useful plants. Many of the plants 
mentioned in Sir Collett's Flora Simlensis are not present today in their 
reported localities.
I am not able to locate the place 'The Chor' mentioned by you.

Regards

On Oct 29, 2016 12:16 AM, "C CHADWELL" 
> wrote:
Dear Anil

I first came across Lilium polyphyllum in Kashmir.  My small team in 1983 
camped on a small island in the Lidder river on
the way to Aru from Pahlgam - this lily grew here.  The crossing to the island 
consisted of a tree trunk.  Sadly, just 2 years later
a wooden bridge had been made to allow vehicles across - no sign of the lily!

Members of a botanical tour found a good colony of this lily in forest above 
Manali and told me of it - I was able to locate this.
Unfortunately, the colony may have expired.  There is a great deal of house 
building and planting of both apple orchards and
other crops - there were some such fields before.  Presumably this is the 
explanation.  Cardiocrinum giganteum was still visible.

Stewart knew it from N.Pakistan and Kashmir @ 2100-3000m.  Even then (some 50 
years back) he observed that possibly due to picking
this lily is nowhere abundant.

You mention NBPG - is this The National Bureau of Plant Genetic Resources?

Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk







From: Anil Thakur >
To: J.M. Garg >
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com; 
efloraofindia 
>; Nidhan 
Singh >
Sent: Friday, 28 October 2016, 19:22
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:255124] Re: Hatoo (Narkanda, Shimla, H.P.) AT 
OCT2016/12

Yes, Garg Ji and Chadwell ji
There are many problems like over grazing, excessive human
interference and  development. I have never come across Lilium
polyphyllum till date. A conservation  project on this plant was
awarded to NBPG, but they have to return the money as they were unable
to collect the plant from this area.
Shali is another area rich in plant diversity. That is approximately
50km away from this place.

Regards


On 10/28/16, J.M. Garg > wrote:
> Thanks, Chadwell ji.
>
> On 28 Oct 2016 5:11 pm, 
> "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" <
> chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Another place worth visiting (have any of this group's members botanized
>> there, I wonder) mentioned by Collet is 'The Chor' located at 30 52' and
>> 77
>> 32'
>> to the South-East of Shimla rises to some 3600m.  I did see a book about
>> a
>> survey of this area in a book-shop at Shimla some years back but this was
>> beyond my tight 

Re: [efloraofindia:250391] Another Urticaceae ABAUG2016/50

[gurinder goraya]

Dears, 

Kindly check for Boehmeria platyphylla.

Regards,
Dr. G S Goraya

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29-Aug-2016, at 6:16 PM, J.M. Garg  wrote:
> 
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
> Could this be Maoutia puya? Please advise.
> Thanks.
> Ashwini  
> 
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Ashwini Bhatia 
> Date: 19 August 2016 at 22:44
> Subject: [efloraofindia:249649] Another Urticaceae ABAUG2016/50
> To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> This large-leaved (many leaves were more than a foot long) plant very likely 
> belongs to Urticaceae. The leaves were shiny, each long-stalked pair 
> perpendicular to the next one on the stem and had no stinging hairs. Stipules 
> were prominent with new flowers beginning to come out from the leaf axils. 
> Please help with the ID.
> 
> Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
> 1750m
> 18 August 2016.
> 
> Thanks.
> Ashwini
> 
> 
> <_MG_6420_18Aug2016.jpg><_MG_6425_18Aug2016.jpg><_MG_6432_18Aug2016.jpg><_MG_6442_18Aug2016.jpg><_MG_6446_18Aug2016.jpg>
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Re: [efloraofindia:250357] Ladakh flora 5. UP

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,

It seems to be some species of Lonicera

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya

Sent from my iPhone

> On 29-Aug-2016, at 9:03 AM, ushaprabha page  wrote:
> 
> id pl, of the shrub with fruits.
> can it be Daphne retusa ?
> 
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RE: [efloraofindia:250355] A climber ABJAN01/13

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,
Seems to be Segeretia filiformis. 
Fruits of this straggling shrub turn red and then deep purplish on ripening and 
are edible - slightly sourish but tasty. Local people in Himachal call these 
'khat-mithu'. 
Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:250344] A climber 
ABJAN01/13
From: ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2016 19:57:13 +0530
CC: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
To: gibybotan...@gmail.com

Thank you Giby ji.
Regards,Ashwini
On 28 Aug 2016, at 11:23, Giby Kuriakose  wrote:I too 
think that this could be Sageretia filiformis 
http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=67206_id=5
RegardsGiby
On 27 August 2016 at 17:10, D.S Rawat  wrote:
Please check for Sageretia oppositifolia (Rhamnaceae) now known as S. 
filiformis.
DSRawat Pantnagar

On Tuesday, January 19, 2016 at 7:57:32 PM UTC+5:30, ashwini wrote:I have seen 
only one instance of this climber with a stout stem (that allows it to 
standalone for some height without support) and strong spikes. The stem is 
smooth and bark-less like that of a guava tree. I am not sure that the evidence 
I have gathered is enough for an ID but it was worth a try. I will watch the 
climber of fruit/flowers for more clues.
Please advise.

Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP1800m11 January, 2016
Thanks.
Ashwini


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RE: [efloraofindia:248707] SK52JUL26-2016:ID

[gurinder goraya]

Seems to be Mentha longifolia.
Regards,

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Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)From: kasajusa...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:28:46 +0545
Subject: [efloraofindia:248080] SK52JUL26-2016:ID
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Dear Mr. Garg,Enclosing some pictures for  identification . Location : Nubra 
ValleyAltitude: 10300 ft.Date:  22 August 2014Thank you.Saroj Kasaju




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Re: [efloraofindia:247347] Rosaceae Sp - at Dras region-J July-PKA-32

[gurinder goraya]

The shrub in question definitely is Rosa webbiana, and matches the wonderful 
field characters given by Gurcharan Sir. Since the species is known to grow 
upto 4000 m asl, and with no other wild rose species reported from the area, 
idea to name the glacier 'Siachen' must have come from this species. Only a 
guess!
Regards,
GS Goraya

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> On 16-Jul-2016, at 9:48 AM, vikram jit singh <vikramjitsing...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> In this photo from Prashant Awale, from Drass, the fruits do not seem to have 
> neck?
> 
> So, is this R. webbianna?
> 
> 
> ​
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Anil Thakur <anilthakur2...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> Beautiful photographs, Prashant ji.
>> These two species can be very easily differentiated on the basis of peculiar 
>> hip/fruit shapes. 
>> Thank you, Dr. Gurcharan Singh Sir for posting photographs of fruits of 
>> both. I have photographs only of R. macrophylla with me.
>> 
>> Regards
>> ANIL THAKUR
>> 
>>> On Friday, 15 July 2016 12:20:42 UTC+5:30, vikram jit singh wrote:
>>> 1. Can a definitive opinion be arrived at: are Prashant's pixs R. webbiana 
>>> or R. macrophylla?
>>> 
>>> 2. Are both these species found through Drass-Kargil-Ladakh-Siachen?
>>> 
>>> 3. Any other rose species found in this larger region?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 8:33 PM, Gurcharan Singh <sing...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Flowers look larger, please also check for Rosa macrophylla
>>>> 
>>>> Rosa webbiana: Leaflets usually 5-7, usually less than 25 mm long, lateral 
>>>> veins 5-8 on each side, margin serrate; fruit usually globose without a 
>>>> distinct neck, usually smooth.
>>>> Rosa macrophylla: Leaflets usually 9-11, mostly 20-50 mm long, lateral 
>>>> veins more than 8; margin serrulate (mostly doubly); calyx lobes with 
>>>> usually foliaceous tip; fruit usually pyriform with distinct neck, often 
>>>> glandular.
>>>> Here are crucial photographs for comparison.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 6:28 AM, vikram jit singh <vikramji...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Dear Dr. Goraya,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is Rosa webbiana the same species after which the Siachen glacier takes 
>>>>> its name? Is this the same rose found at the glacier's snout or are there 
>>>>> more rose species in the Siachen area?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Vikram Jit Singh.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 3:59 PM, gurinder goraya <guri...@hotmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Dears,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It is Rosa webbiana, a beautiful species that turns the entire landscape 
>>>>>> pink in Dras-Kargil-Leh section during May-June.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
>>>>>> Deputy Director General (Research),
>>>>>> Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
>>>>>> New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
>>>>>> (Uttarakhand, India) 
>>>>>> Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: pka...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 14:15:22 +0530
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:246628] Rosaceae Sp - at Dras region-J 
>>>>>> July-PKA-32
>>>>>> To: indian...@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dear Friends,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wild Rose (Rosaceae Family) was seen in Dras sector enroute Leh.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sharing few pics of the same..
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Prashant
>>>>>> 
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Re: [efloraofindia:246891] Plant for ID, Sikkim NAW-JUL16-15

[gurinder goraya]

Some Begonia spp. Ji

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> On 09-Jul-2016, at 6:58 PM, Nadeem Waqif  wrote:
> 
> Kindly identify this plant with white flowers tinged with reddish hair, 
> photographed in June 2015 in South Sikkim.
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RE: [efloraofindia:246637] Rosaceae Sp - at Dras region-J July-PKA-32

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,
It is Rosa webbiana, a beautiful species that turns the entire landscape pink 
in Dras-Kargil-Leh section during May-June.
Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)From: pkaw...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2016 14:15:22 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:246628] Rosaceae Sp - at Dras region-J July-PKA-32
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Dear Friends,

Wild Rose (Rosaceae Family) was seen in Dras sector enroute Leh.

Sharing few pics of the same..

Regards
Prashant





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Re: [efloraofindia:246135] Himalayan flower for Id

[gurinder goraya]

Dactylorhiza hatageria...

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> On 30-Jun-2016, at 11:56 AM, Gunjan Arora  wrote:
> 
> Dear Sirs,
> 
> Please find attached pics of a flower sighted in the Gangotri National Park 
> (Uttrakhand) on 17th June 2016, at an altitude of 3740 meters. 
> Kindly help in its identification.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Yours truly,
> 
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RE: [efloraofindia:245202] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J: 071111 SRANA 02

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,
To me it seems to be Lilium polyphyllum, a plant no more common in its natural 
habitat. It is Red-listed.
Regards,

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Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)From: jmga...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:24:12 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:245154] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J: 
07 SRANA 02
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It looks different from images at Notholirion thomsonianum 
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From: Suresh Kumar Rana 
Date: 7 November 2011 at 16:13
Subject: [efloraofindia:92701] Plant for ID from Paddar valley J: 07 
SRANA 02
To: efloraofindia 


Request for Identification:Date: 1st August 2011Location: Paddar valley 
Kishtwar J: 3010 meters aslGPS: 33.40 N and 76.34 EPlant 
habit/habitat: Wild herb
Plant height: 2-3 feets
Thanks and regards
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Re: [efloraofindia:244052] Delphinium sp. ABMAY01/01

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There is now a very high demand for its roots, known in trade as 'Jadwar' and 
locally 'Nirbishi' for making some anti-cancer(?) formulation. Unless it comes 
in cultivation its sighting will soon become rarer.

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> On 23-May-2016, at 6:46 AM, Ashwini Bhatia  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Nidhan Singh ji. I am happy to hear that this plant is not becoming 
> scarce. Perhaps they thrive on slopes away from the paths and I see so few of 
> them.
> 
> Regards,
> Ashwini
>> On 23 May 2016, at 06:40, Nidhan Singh  wrote:
>> 
>> Nice!!!
>> I first saw this plant at Chakrata, a span elapsed to see it again, but I 
>> think this is not rare, as I first imagined..
>> Thanks for sharing, and a plant lover feels happy to find a new or uncommon 
>> plant, I have a large number of taxa with me with either flowering or 
>> fruiting individuals wanted..thanks Ashwini Ji..!!
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Dr. Nidhan Singh
>> Assistant Professor
>> Department of Botany
>> I.B. (PG) College
>> Panipat-132103 Haryana
>> Ph.: 09416371227
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Re: [efloraofindia:243731] One more interesting tree from Baijnath, Uttatakhand for ID-GSMAY2016/17

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Sir, 

Seems to be Ficus subincisia

Regards,

Dr. GS Goraya

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> On 18-May-2016, at 2:23 PM, Gurcharan Singh  wrote:
> 
> One more interesting tree from Baijnath, Uttatakhand for ID, photographed on 
> April 16, 2012.
> 
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> Retired  Associate Professor
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RE: [efloraofindia:239803] Tree ID Request - Uttarakhand

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Seems to be Prunus cerasoides, the wild cherry!!

Regards,
Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)From: sushmitas...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:53:09 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:239790] Tree ID Request - Uttarakhand
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

I would appreciate help with identifying this tree found in Uttarakhand at 
about 6500 ft altitude. These pictures were taken in Pangot,15 kms from 
Nainital, last week. The seed of the fruit is a favourite of the Spot-winged 
Grosbeaks. In fact, we honed in on this tree and bird, hearing the crackling 
sound of the Grosbeak breaking the seeds!
Thank you.Sushmita Jha








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RE: [efloraofindia:239558] Sh. Krishan Lal ji is no more

[gurinder goraya]

Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:15:20 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:239480] Sh. Krishan Lal ji is no more
From: jmga...@gmail.com
To: gurind...@hotmail.com

Thanks, Gurinder ji.
On 12 February 2016 at 06:30, gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com> wrote:



Dears,
Sh. Krishan Lal ji worked in clerical cadre and retired as Office 
Superintendent in the PWD office. He was always able to find time to follow his 
passion about plants from the very busy office he was working in. I still 
cherish the moment when I got first opportunity of going with him to the filed 
on the trail of Gentiana kurroo in 2010, an elusive medicinal plant assessed as 
'Critically Endangered' in the Western Himalayas, and when he showed me a big 
bunch of flowers precariously hanging from a rocky cliff. We both were lying on 
our bellies to capture a glimpse of this plant lurking about 10 feet below us 
on the cliff. His childlike exultation at that moment was to be seen to be 
believed. Simply a great soul!! We'll deeply miss his uncanny eye for the 
species, usually hidden from the normal eye, and his polite disagreement with 
first identifications, even by experts. It is only due to his this ability that 
he has been able to add many first time records to the flora of Himachal 
Pradesh.   
Regards, 
Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 16:51:47 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:239480] Sh. Krishan Lal ji is no more
From: jmga...@gmail.com
To: gurind...@hotmail.com

Hi, Gurinder ji,Does he retired as Office Superintendent or a Superintending 
Engineer ?
On 11 February 2016 at 15:48, gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com> wrote:



Dears,
The news has come as a rude shock. Dr G. S. Rawat broke this news to me. In his 
death we have lost a lovely, polite, enthusiastic and knowledgeable person. He 
accompanied me and Dr. G S Rawat to Shimla only a couple of months back. 
Compulsive plant lover as he was, he would keep a hawk's eye on the flora along 
the roads and would make the vehicle to stop to check identity of the plant he 
thought was new from the moving vehicle.  
Those who don't know, he retired as Office Superintendent from the Public Works 
Department in Himachal Pradesh. He developed love for plants early on and spent 
a large proportion of his earnings on buying books on plants from all across 
the globe, a developed a enviable personal library. He also developed a keen 
interest in photography and spent quite a bit on buying good photographic 
equipment. After retirement he spent his left over earnings to buy a Mahindra 
vehicle and woul undertake extensive visits to different areas in Himachal to 
explore plant wealth.
My salute to his indomitable spirit to never say die and keep learning. May his 
soul rest in peace. I only wish that somebody should come forward and fulfil 
his desire to publish his compilations.
Regards, 

Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 10:18:53 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:239480] Sh. Krishan Lal ji is no more
From: jmga...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: anilthakur2...@gmail.com

News from Anil Thakur ji in another thread:"There is a very sad news for all of 
us. One of our experts, Sh. Krishan Lal ji from Nahan, Himachal Pradesh is no 
more in this world. We have lost a great nature lover and plant explorer. He 
has many new records for the state of H.P. despite the fact that he was Arts 
graduate."
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RE: [efloraofindia:239501] Sh. Krishan Lal ji is no more

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,
The news has come as a rude shock. Dr G. S. Rawat broke this news to me. In his 
death we have lost a lovely, polite, enthusiastic and knowledgeable person. He 
accompanied me and Dr. G S Rawat to Shimla only a couple of months back. 
Compulsive plant lover as he was, he would keep a hawk's eye on the flora along 
the roads and would make the vehicle to stop to check identity of the plant he 
thought was new from the moving vehicle.  
Those who don't know, he retired as Office Superintendent from the Public Works 
Department in Himachal Pradesh. He developed love for plants early on and spent 
a large proportion of his earnings on buying books on plants from all across 
the globe, a developed a enviable personal library. He also developed a keen 
interest in photography and spent quite a bit on buying good photographic 
equipment. After retirement he spent his left over earnings to buy a Mahindra 
vehicle and woul undertake extensive visits to different areas in Himachal to 
explore plant wealth.
My salute to his indomitable spirit to never say die and keep learning. May his 
soul rest in peace. I only wish that somebody should come forward and fulfil 
his desire to publish his compilations.
Regards, 

Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2016 10:18:53 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:239480] Sh. Krishan Lal ji is no more
From: jmga...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: anilthakur2...@gmail.com

News from Anil Thakur ji in another thread:"There is a very sad news for all of 
us. One of our experts, Sh. Krishan Lal ji from Nahan, Himachal Pradesh is no 
more in this world. We have lost a great nature lover and plant explorer. He 
has many new records for the state of H.P. despite the fact that he was Arts 
graduate."
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[efloraofindia:232127] RE: Dr. Gurinder Goraya- Runner up of Rosaceae Fortnight'2015

[gurinder goraya]

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Subject: RE: Dr. Gurinder Goraya- Runner up of Rosaceae Fortnight'2015
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 08:25:49 +0530




Thanks Garg ji for appreciating my photographs of wild plants of Himachal ... 
and my apologies for late response..
I had gone to 'Chandranahan', a lake perched at 4050 metres in Rohru division 
of Shimla district and forming origin of river 'Pabbar'. The trek of about 24 
kms from Tangnu, the nearest road head, involved passing through beautiful 
Birch-Brown Oak-Himalayan Fir (Betula utilis-Quercus semecarpifolia-Abies 
spectabilis) forests forming timber line and merging into alpine meadows 
through a very narrow band of sub-alpine shrubs. Camping in alpine meadows has 
its own charm. I returned from this wonderful trek only yesterday. 
That this year we received less than normal rains was apparent from the near 
dry lake and almost parched vegetation enroute. We however, were blessed to 
observe good populations of Saussurea obvalata and Aconitum violaceum along the 
path. Shall share photographs of the trek soon. 
Regards, Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council 
of Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 
248006.(Uttarakhand, India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)

Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 13:08:59 +0530
Subject: Fwd: Dr. Gurinder Goraya- Runner up of Rosaceae Fortnight'2015
From: jmga...@gmail.com
To: gurind...@hotmail.com


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Date: 16 September 2015 at 13:08
Subject: Dr. Gurinder Goraya- Runner up of Rosaceae Fortnight'2015
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Dear members,It's my pleasure to state that Dr. Gurinder Goraya is the Runner 
up of Rosaceae Fortnight'2015. He is an IFS officer now working as a Deputy 
Director General (Research), Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education, 
Dehradun.It was a surprise to all of us to see his wonderful composed posts.His 
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RE: [efloraofindia:232126] Dr. Gurinder Goraya- Runner up of Rosaceae Fortnight'2015

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks very much Gurcharan Sir, Promila ji, Prashant ji for kind words, help in 
critical identification of various species and encouragement. 
Regards,

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Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2015 15:58:37 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:231932] Dr. Gurinder Goraya- Runner up of Rosaceae 
Fortnight'2015
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Congratulations Dr. Goraya.Regards,Promila
On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Prashant Awale <pkaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hearty Congratulations Dr. Gurinder Goraya ji..
Regards
Prashant

On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:10 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Congrats Gurinder jiYour uploads very really very diverse.Dr. Gurcharan 
SinghRetired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 


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Dear members,It's my pleasure to state that Dr. Gurinder Goraya is the Runner 
up of Rosaceae Fortnight'2015. He is an IFS officer now working as a Deputy 
Director General (Research), Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education, 
Dehradun.It was a surprise to all of us to see his wonderful composed posts.His 
participation in this fortnight made it really memorable.Thanks, Dr. Goraya.
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RE: [efloraofindia:232125] ANSEPT23/23 Valeriana sp. for identification (Churdhar Trip 55)

[gurinder goraya]

It is Valeriana jatamansii.

Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 11:33:35 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:232050] ANSEPT23/23 Valeriana sp. for 
identification (Churdhar Trip 55)
From: jmga...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: anurag.op...@gmail.com



Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:


 
  
 

  Valeriana species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ 
regional
floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever available on net)   
   
  


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From: Anurag Sharma 
Date: 10 September 2015 at 22:41
Subject: [efloraofindia:231478] ANSEPT23/23 Valeriana sp. for identification 
(Churdhar Trip 55)
To: efloraofindia 


Family: Caprifoliaceae
Date: May 2015
Place: Churdhar Sanctuary, Himachal Pradesh
Altitude: 2500 metres above sea level





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[efloraofindia:231685] RE: Rosaceae Fortnight- Potentilla eriocarpa from Himachal-GSG39/Sept 2015

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Dr. Rawat,
Thanks for pointing out nomenclature issue. 
I distinguished between P. cuneata Wall. ex Lehm. and P. eriocarpa Wall. ex 
Lehm. - both otherwise looking similar - by the glabrous and hairy cuneate 
leaflets respectively. Now I find that nomenclature of P. cuneata is updated/ 
corrected as P. cuneifolia Bertol. with P.cuneata Wall. ex Lehm. and P. ambigua 
Cambess. as sysnonyms. 
I has uploaded images of P. cuneata (now P. cuneifolia) also. Kindly help in 
fixing identity.
I also find a nomenclature mix up with respect to P. atrosanguinea vs. P. 
argyrophyalla. I had posted flowers of 3 colours i.e. yellow, orange and red 
under the caption P. atrosanguinea. However, some references place yellow 
flowered plants under P. argyrophyalla.  
I shall be grateful for clarifying these issues. 
Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFSDeputy Director General (Research),Indian Council of 
Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 07:28:35 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Rosaceae Fortnight- Potentilla eriocarpa from Himachal-GSG39/Sept 
2015

Probably Potentilla ambigua.
DSRawat Pantnagar

On Sunday, September 13, 2015 at 5:02:01 PM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
Potentilla eriocarpa.
  


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Forestry Research & Education,New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.(Uttarakhand, 
India) Tel. (+91-941-802-5036) 
  

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RE: [efloraofindia:229707] Corydalis for ID, Kinnaur

[gurinder goraya]

Corydalis juncea? 

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P. O., Dehradun (Uttarakhand, India)-248 006.
 
Mobile: 094180 25036; Off. 0135-2757775 
  
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 01:27:41 -0700
From: siddarthmach...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:229603] Corydalis for ID, Kinnaur

Hi,Would appreciate help to ID this Corydalis, observed at Asrang Village, 
Kinnaur District, Himachal Pradesh, June 2015 ~3600m altitude.  on open slope 
of mountain. Size ~20cm height. 





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RE: [efloraofindia:224532] Yet another tree for ID/ABDEC07

[gurinder goraya]

Pieris (Lyonia) ovalifolia!
 
Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest, DEHRADUN-248 006.
Uttarakhand, India. 
 
Tel: 0135-2757775 (O); 094180 25036 (Mob.);
 
 
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:224436] Yet another tree for ID/ABDEC07
From: ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com
Date: Mon, 18 May 2015 22:55:52 +0530
CC: nschauha...@gmail.com; drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com; singh...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

These trees are coming in flower now. In a couple of days I will post fully 
opened flowers hopefully.
Thanks.Ashwini
On 11-Apr-2015, at 10:17 pm, Ashwini Bhatia ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com 
wrote:Thank you very much Dr Chauhan. I am waiting for this tree to flower next 
month.
Warm regards,Ashwini
On 11-Apr-2015, at 9:51 pm, Narain Singh Chauhan nschauha...@gmail.com 
wrote:It is pieris ovalifolia ,Syn: Lyonia ovalifolia, closely associated with 
Rhododendron---Buras.


On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:47 PM, Ashwini Bhatia ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com 
wrote:
The tree is now almost covered in soft pink-green leaves and there is no sign 
of flowers. Here are a couple of photos of the very same tree taken on 6 April 
2105.
Thanks.Ashwini
IMG_8216_09April15ph.jpgIMG_8217_06April15ph.jpgIMG_8218_06April15ph.jpg

Begin forwarded message:
From: Ashwini Bhatia ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:208554] Yet another tree for ID/ABDEC07
Date: 26 March 2015 10:09:03 pm IST
To: Narain Singh Chauhan nschauha...@gmail.com
Cc: J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com, efloraofindia 
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com, 
Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com

These are sprouting now with beautiful pink-green velvety leaves. We have 
agreed on Lyonia ovalifolia for this tree as the message track shows. Does it 
flower?
Lyonia ovalifoliaMcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP1750m26 March 2015
Thanks.Ashwini
P3269429_26March15.jpgP3269426_26March15.jpgP3269423_26March15.jpg
On 09-Dec-2014, at 7:49 pm, Narain Singh Chauhan nschauha...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes . It is Lyonia ovalifolia Syn: Pieris ovalifolia locally known as ANYAR in 
Garhwal, 
On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Ashwini Bhatia ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com 
wrote:
Rawat ji's suggestion that it could be Lyonia ovalifolia seems plausible. Today 
I photographed a small tree near home as reference. All leaves are in autumn 
plumage and half eaten...
IMG_1553_09Dec14.jpgIMG_1556_09Dec14.jpg
On 09-Dec-2014, at 4:25 pm, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:


Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. 

Some earlier relevant feedback:


 
  
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
 
  
 
Not really in good condition but I would suggest Prunus cornuta. Dr. Gurcharan 
Singh  
  
 Thank you Dr Singh. I know autumn is not the best time to identify trees. I am 
attaching another photo of a green leaf I plucked from the tree today and it 
shows no fine-toothed margins. There were larger leaves than this but they were 
all bronze.I also suspect it to be a prunus or pyrus. May be we need to wait 
till spring.Thanks and regards,
Ashwini
  Yes leaf looks different, but if you are sure it belongs to the same tree we 
may have to locate a tree with flowers in raceme, 5 fused carpels with superior 
ovary. Hope to get in soon.Dr. Gurcharan Singh 
  To me it resembles to Lyonia ovalifolia (Ericaceae).DSRawat Pantnagar 
  




 
  
  efi page on Lyonia ovalifolia 
  
 



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From: Ashwini Bhatia ashw...@ashwinibhatia.com
Date: 3 December 2014 at 17:41
Subject: [efloraofindia:207973] Yet another tree for ID/ABDEC07
To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


I apologise for putting in too many ID requests, but I have the energy today 
and I am sure you will excuse me. This tree has really gnarled trunk/bark with 
deep fissures running along its length. The leaves turn bronze in autumn.  The 
specimens around are mostly small to medium size. 
Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP1750m approx.03 December, 2014
Thanks.Ashwini
_MG_4225_03Dec14.jpg_MG_4229_03Dec14.jpg_MG_4230_03Dec14.jpgIMG_1079_03DEc14.jpg


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RE: [efloraofindia:220780] Visit to Churdhar peak from 22 may to 30 May

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,
 
Great! 
 
It is the most wonderful time to visit Churdhar, the views are great and their 
is both history and myth revolving around the place. One of the few places 
where one can see all the four species of Rhododendrons recorded from Himachal 
in flowering in a span of less than 10 kms and vast expanses of each of these 
species - though slightly late for R. arboretum. 
 
The initial climb from Nohra is slightly harsh... don't try to climb up fast 
(as usually happens due to excitement of the trek) for the first about 3 kms..  
then the climb smoothens out..
 
While trekking to Churdhar, kindly remember that it is a wildlife sanctuary and 
you would need permission from Wildlife Warden of the area (DFO Wildlife 
Shimla) to save you from possible issues during the trek. And making herbarium 
collections is generally not allowed unless specifically permitted. So be 
trigger happy, shoot as many images as you can, imbibe and enjoy the scene as 
much as possible... and it sure is a wonderful trek.
 
Wish the group a wonderful trek.
 
Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest, DEHRADUN-248 006.
Uttarakhand, India. 
 
Tel: 0135-2757775 (O); 094180 25036 (Mob.);
 
 
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 23:40:25 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:220769] Visit to Churdhar peak from 22 may to 30 May
From: balkara...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; nidhansingh...@gmail.com; 
singh...@gmail.com; anurag.op...@gmail.com; shrikant.ingalhali...@gmail.com; 
smita.ras...@gmail.com; anilthakur2...@gmail.com; drsu...@gmail.com; 
sunoj2...@gmail.com

Dear AllA flower hunting program to Churdhar Peak in Himachal has been 
scheduled from 22-5-15 to 30-5-15. Following is the detailed program. This 
program can be changed a little as per requirement, but dates and routs are 
fixed. Interested person can contact us at no 9541454009 and by mail 
balkara...@gmail.com. Pls prefer e mail for any communication or clarification. 
During the whole programs accommodation and other facilities will be just basic 
type. No star culture will be there as such star facilities are not available 
at this route. Expenditure will be at no profit no loss basis. only 4-5% extra 
than actual cost all have to pay for making arrangements before actual tour 
program. participants have to pay Rs 1000 as advance rest will be collected 
during tour programme. Advance will be refunded (Rs 1000) only with genuine 
reason only. For all cancellation/refund Rs 400/- will be deducted. Estimated 
expenditure is between Rs. 8000- 12000/- including travel accommodation and 
food from Panipat to PanipatDetails The enchanting Churdhar mountain in Sirmaur 
(Shivalik
ranges) is the highest peak in southern Himachal Pradesh.  The view from
the summit embraces a vast panorama of lowland tracts towards the south and
snow-capped ranges, including the peaks of Badrinath and Kedarnath in the
Garhwal region, towards the north. 

 It is believed that this is the very place where
Hanuman discovered the life-restoring Sanjivini booti, which revived Lakshmana,
Lord Rama’s younger brother. Ruins of an ancient town have been discovered at
the nearby Dundi Devi. A wealth of herbs and beautiful alpine flora, covers
these Himalayan slopes. Walking through the wildlife sanctuary, one can spot
the spectacular monal, Himachal’s state bird, along with koklass and kaleej
pheasants. The canine-toothed musk deer and the endangered Himalayan black bear
inhabit the higher forests.

On a clear sunny day, you can be rewarded with a
view of the Badrinath and Kedarnath shrines, Gangetic plains, the Sutlej river
and hills of Shimla and Chakrata. Atop the Churdhar summit lie the lingams of
Shiva and Kali, where once goat and sheep were sacrificed. Devotees hoist flags
and make offerings here.

Churdhar peak can be approached from at least three routes -
Chaupal in Shimla district is the base for the shortest route of 7 kms, while
Haripurdhar in Sirmour district is the base for a longer route of some 50 km.
Nauradhar (Nohra) is the third base from where Churdhar is a 20 km climb. 
Nauradhar
is a small town on the Solan - Rajghat -Sangrah road and is about 388 km from
Delhi.

 

Day Zero(22May)
– Assembly of all by 4.00 PM at Panipat. If all reaches well in time then
departure for Kaleshwar or Nahan. Night stay at Kaleshwar or Nahan. Max 
elevation
1200 mts. Summer but cool weather

Day Two: (23
May) Visit to Renuka Ji lake and on the way area. Maximum elevation 1500 Mts.  
Summer but cool weather. If possible night
stay at Renuka ji.

Day Three: (24
May) Early morning travel start for Nohradhar ie. Base camp for trek to
Churdhar. Whole day exploration in the way. Night stay at Nohradhar. max 
elevation 2800 mts

Day Four: (25
May) Trek Start for churdhar stay at night in between the way to churdhar. max 
elevation 3000 mts

 

Day Five:
(26 May) Final trekking to Churdhar Peak, those who will not be able to 

RE: [efloraofindia:217224] Mollem National Park :: Jasminum multiflorum :: DVMAR07/07

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Dinesh ji,
 
What a lively and refreshing pic!!! As I opened the file, I felt as if the room 
has got filled with soothing fragrance of the jasmine flowers thanks for 
sharing the pic.
 
Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest, DEHRADUN-248 006.
Uttarakhand, India. 
 
Tel: 0135-2757775 (O); 094180 25036 (Mob.);
 
 
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 19:44:25 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:217210] Mollem National Park :: Jasminum multiflorum :: 
DVMAR07/07
From: dinesh.va...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Mollem National Park ... GoaDate: 23 APR 2011 ... Altitude: about 200 m 
aslJasminum multiflorum (Burm.f.) Andrews ... (family: Oleaceae) 

 

Regards.
Dinesh





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RE: [efloraofindia:213551] Ranunculaceae Fortnight:: For id from Chakrata :: NS 2015 Jan-20

[gurinder goraya]

You are right Nidhan ji. Seems to be Clematis montana..

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Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
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Uttarakhand, India. 
 
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Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:49:09 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:213501] Ranunculaceae Fortnight:: For id from Chakrata 
:: NS 2015 Jan-20
From: nidhansingh...@gmail.com
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Dear All,
This climber with freshly opened flowers was recorded during a visit to 
Chakrata area, which Clematis sp. this can be..Clematis montana ??
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Department of Botany
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RE: [efloraofindia:210748] Re: Is it some Rhododendron species ?

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,
 
Dr. Rawat's observation is correct.
 
Churdhar (Dist. Sirmour, Himachal Pradesh) is a unique place where due to 
microclimatic conditions all four Rhododendron species of Himachal occur in a 
short distance of about 5 kms. The altitude, however, varies from about 2500 
metres near Nohra (R. arboreum) to about 3400 m at Churdhar (R. campanulatum, 
R. lepidotum  R. anthopogon).  It is a treat to trek up to Churdhar during 
late May to early June to enjoy vast expanses of landscape covered with 
flowered Rhododendrons of different species..
 
Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest, DEHRADUN-248 006.
Uttarakhand, India. 
 
Tel: 0135-2757775 (O); 094180 25036 (Mob.);

 
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:19:01 -0800
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:210677] Re: Is it some Rhododendron species ?

Yes a Rhododendron species.Looks close to R.anthopogon. BUT 2500m altitude is 
too low for this species which occur in alpine zones above 3200m.DSRawat 
Pantnagar

On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:21:12 PM UTC+5:30, Anil Thakur wrote:Respected 
Members,



Is it some Rhododendron species ?

Place: Chooddhar (Sirmour) H.P.

Altitude: more than 2500m

June 2014

Collected by our Peon



Regards,

-- 

Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur

Associate Professor (Botany)

Govt. P.G. College, Solan (H.P.)

Mob. 94184-50063






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RE: [efloraofindia:210749] ANDEC72 Please identify this tree

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Kindly check for Boehmeria rugulosa?

Regards,

Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest, DEHRADUN-248 006.
Uttarakhand, India. 
 
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Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2014 21:46:52 -0800
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Subject: [efloraofindia:210424] ANDEC72 Please identify this tree

Mussoorie, Uttarakhand
November 2014





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RE: [efloraofindia:209427] Tree from Uttarakhand : ID Requested

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Kindly check for Cornus (Swida) macrophylla!!

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Uttarakhand, India. 
 
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 Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 09:25:29 +0530
 Subject: [efloraofindia:209426] Tree from Uttarakhand : ID Requested
 From: dsr...@gmail.com
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 Please id this tree
 
 -Medium sized tree
 - collected ca. 1900 m asl.
 - Associated with Aesculas sp., Lyonia and Rhododendron
 -Uncommon.
 
 Thanks
 Dinesh Singh Rawat
 HNBGU, Srinagar
 
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RE: [efloraofindia:207328] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Ficus (?) :: ARKNOV-47

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Kindly check for Ficus palmata.

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Deputy Director General (Research),
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New Forest, DEHRADUN-248 006.
Uttarakhand, India. 
 
Tel: 0135-2757775 (O); 094180 25036 (Mob.);

 
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 10:24:43 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:207261] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Ficus (?) 
:: ARKNOV-47
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Forwarding again for Id
assistance please.


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Date: 19 November 2014 at 23:10
Subject: [efloraofindia:206608] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Ficus (?) :: 
ARKNOV-47
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com


Hello friends

Requesting to please provide ID of this Ficus captured near Prini, Manali, HP 
in October 2014.It was a biggish shrub.

Thanks and RegardsAlka Khare





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RE: [efloraofindia:207329] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Tree with fruits:: ARKNOV-64

[gurinder goraya]

Looks like Terminalia chebula.

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Uttarakhand, India. 
 
Tel: 0135-2757775 (O); 094180 25036 (Mob.);

 
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:51:14 -0800
From: alka...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:207246] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Tree with 
fruits:: ARKNOV-64

Hello friends

Requesting to please provide ID of this tree captured at Dharamshala, HP in 
October 2014.It was found in the compound of a hotel, may be cultivated
Thanks and RegardsAlka Khare





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RE: [efloraofindia:207139] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Roadside tree :: ARKNOV-58

[gurinder goraya]

Yes, it is Dalbergia sissoo. 

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Uttarakhand, India. 
 
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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 03:24:29 -0800
From: alka...@gmail.com
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Subject: [efloraofindia:207100] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Roadside tree 
:: ARKNOV-58

Hello friends

Requesting to please provide ID of this tree captured at Dharamshala, HP in 
October 2014. This tree was a fairly common roadside tree there, probably some 
Dalbergia?
Some pods can also be seen.
Thanks and RegardsAlka Khare




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RE: [efloraofindia:207140] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Medium sized tree :: ARKNOV-59

[gurinder goraya]

Looks like Sapium sebiferum (Indian Tallow tree), planted as avenue and for 
ornamental purposes in Himachal. 

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Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 03:31:26 -0800
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Subject: [efloraofindia:207101] HP, Oct 2014 :: Requesting ID - Medium sized 
tree :: ARKNOV-59

Hello friends

Requesting to please provide ID of this tree captured at Dharamshala, HP in 
October 2014.It was seen in the compound of a hotel.
Thanks and RegardsAlka Khare




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RE: [efloraofindia:203676] Pleurospermum brunonis ?? --en-route Dhel Pass - GHNP - PKA48

[gurinder goraya]

Yes, it seems P. brunonis. Excellent photographs. 

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
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New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 23:04:24 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:203665] Pleurospermum brunonis ?? --en-route Dhel Pass 
- GHNP - PKA48
From: pkaw...@gmail.com
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Dear Friends,

Small herb seen en-route Dhel Pass at GHNP at an altitude of approx 3700m.

I think this could be Pleurospermum brunonis ?? (Pl. validate ID)..
Family: Apiaceae,

Regards
Prashant





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RE: [efloraofindia:203677] Inula orientalis --en-route Shakati - GHNP - PKA47

[gurinder goraya]

Very good photographs Prashant ji.

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Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:17:55 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:203612] Inula orientalis --en-route Shakati - GHNP - 
PKA47
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Dear Friends,

Inula orientalis (Syn: Inula grandiflora); Family: Asteraceae.

Location: en-route Shakati - GHNP at altitude of approx. 2600m

Date/Time: 30-09-2014 / 09:45AM

Regards
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RE: [efloraofindia:203262] ID Request --Sai Ropa at GHNP - PKA27

[gurinder goraya]

It is Benthamidia (=Cornus) capitata
 
Regards,


Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
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New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775
 
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:21:27 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:203257] ID Request --Sai Ropa at GHNP - PKA27
From: pkaw...@gmail.com
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Dear Friends,

Seen this tree at the out skirts of Sai Ropa at GHNP at an altitude of approx. 
1500m.

Date/Time: 23-09-2014 / 05:00PM

Regards
Prashant





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RE: [efloraofindia:202704] ID request --enroute Dhel pass- GHNP - PKA6

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Prashant ji,
 
It seems to be Lomatogonium carinthiacum, with very prominent light blue 
flowers, usually in blossom during September.

Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
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Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 20:00:56 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:202698] ID request --enroute Dhel pass- GHNP - PKA6
From: pkaw...@gmail.com
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CC: flowersofin...@gmail.com

Dear Friends,

This herb was spotted enroute Dhel Pass at an altitude of approx 3800m.

Could this be some Swertia sp..

Date/Time: 28-09-2-14 / 01:30PM

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RE: [efloraofindia:202479] Re: Murraya koenigii (L.) Spreng. SN Oct 01

[gurinder goraya]

Dears,
 
Murraya koenigii also occurs in Himachal Pradesh to altitudes of 1200 m asl and 
at many places forms the major understory in forests. In Himachal it is prized 
for its 'tooth sticks' that are routinely chewed by local people, especially so 
in digestive problems.
 
Yes, I agree with Dr. Rawat. Local people also eat its fruits, though not very 
commonly.
 
Regards,

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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 08:28:35 -0700
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Subject: [efloraofindia:202445] Re: Murraya koenigii (L.) Spreng. SN Oct 01

This plant also grow here in Uttarakhand upto mid hills but the leaves are less 
aromatic than South Indian plants. Fruits are also edible in addition to leaves 
which are famous as curry leaves.DSRawat Pantnagar

On Monday, October 6, 2014 6:45:15 PM UTC+5:30, Santhan P wrote:Murraya 
koenigii (L.) Spreng wild curry leaf plant from Anekal area of Urban Bangalore. 
The shrubs are having different aroma and considered as different Chemo type. 
This wild plants are available from neighboring districts of Bangalore.






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RE: [efloraofindia:202480] Saussurea graminifolia?? at Dhel Pass - GHNP-PKA1

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Dear Prashant ji,
 
First of all congrats for visiting GHNP after its inscription as World Heritage 
Site. Pity that I have not been able to do so, even as I extensively trekked 
through the Park during the process of its inscription. 
 
Yes, the image is definitely Saussurea graminifolia, a striking plant visible 
to only those with keen eyes. I have also recorded good widely scattered 
patches of this plant during my recent trek to Bharara Sar (4270 m), a lake on 
Rupin ridge defining the boundary of Himachal (Dodra Kwar) and Uttarakhand  
(Gobind Pashu Vihar). 
 
Regards, 

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775
 
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:58:49 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:202423] Saussurea graminifolia?? at Dhel Pass - 
GHNP-PKA1
From: pkaw...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Dear Friends,

Seen this Saussurea sp. (Family: Asteraceae) enroute Dhel at Great Himalayan 
National Park (GHNP) at altitude of approx. 3900m.

Bot. name: Saussurea graminifolia ?? (Pl. validate)

Date/Time: 28-09-2014 / 01:30PM

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RE: [efloraofindia:202481] Swertia perfoliata?? enroute Guntarao - GHNP-PKA2

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Prashant ji,
 
Could it be Swertia speciosa, a plant recorded as fairly common at these 
altitudes in GHNP and other places in Himachal? 
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
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Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:09:39 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:202424] Swertia perfoliata?? enroute Guntarao - 
GHNP-PKA2
From: pkaw...@gmail.com
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Dear Friends,

Seen this Swertia sp. (Family: Gentianaceae) enroute Guntaraol
 at Great Himalayan National Park (GHNP) at altitude of approx. 3700m.

Bot. name: Swertia perfoliata ?? (Pl. validate)

Date/Time: 26-09-2014 / 12:45PM

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RE: [efloraofindia:199191] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Month: Zingiberaceae??- For id from Chakrata:: NS Aug 56 CONCLUDING POST

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Nidhan ji,
 
It seems to be fruiting branch of Cautleya spicata, showing its prominent waxy 
grey capsules with black seeds.
 
Regards,

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Deputy Director General (Research),
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:09:36 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:199165] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Month: 
Zingiberaceae??- For id from Chakrata:: NS Aug 56 CONCLUDING POST
From: nidhansingh...@gmail.com
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Dear All, 
I am not sure if this interesting plant belongs to Cannaceae or 
Zingiberaceae...was seen at Herbal Nursery, Deoban.

Please give your precious views




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RE: [efloraofindia:199192] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Month: Zingiberaceae-Roscoea purpurea from Chakrata :: NS Aug 55

[gurinder goraya]

Beautiful photographs.

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 21:01:24 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:199164] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Month: 
Zingiberaceae-Roscoea purpurea from Chakrata :: NS Aug 55
From: nidhansingh...@gmail.com
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Dear All, 

 

This is quite common in Chakrata area...

Please suggest if id is otherwise. ..






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RE: [efloraofindia:199193] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Month: Zingiberaceae-Roscoea alpina from Chakrata :: NS Aug 54

[gurinder goraya]

It indeed is a beauty...

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:57:38 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:199161] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Month: 
Zingiberaceae-Roscoea alpina from Chakrata :: NS Aug 54
From: nidhansingh...@gmail.com
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Dear All,
This beautiful and delicate herb was recorded from Deoban area, August 2013..

Roscoea alpina is the right id I hope..





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RE: [efloraofindia:198773] OVER TO A HIGH HIMALAYAN JOURNEY

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Dr, Rawat,
 
Wish you a wonderful trek up the hills. I have been only upto Roopkund through 
Ali and Bedni bugyals, and II still savour the memories of the trek I did in 
June 1985... i.e. nearly 30 years back. What a wonderful landscape... Yes 
plants would be aplenty and with your passion, you would, I am sure, make the 
best of this visit..
 
Regards,  

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
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Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2014 16:17:07 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:198745] OVER TO A HIGH HIMALAYAN JOURNEY
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
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Dear AllJoining Nanda Devi Raj Jat Yatra 2014 in Chamoli district of 
Uttarakhand on 29th Aug till 7th September.It is around 100 km trekking in 
temperate and alpine Himalaya passing through meadows, ridges, lakes and 
glaciers.
Hope it will be good for alpine plant hunting.
DSRawat PantnagarDr D.S.RawatDepartment of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant 
University of Agriculture  Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA







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RE: [efloraofindia:196849] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: Zingiberaceae- Zingiber sp??? for ID from Uttarakhand-GSAUG69

[gurinder goraya]

Sir,
 
It seems to be Hedychium spicatum.
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
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New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:03:36 -0700
Subject: [efloraofindia:196844] Araceae, Arecaceae and Zingiberaceae Fortnight: 
Zingiberaceae- Zingiber sp??? for ID from Uttarakhand-GSAUG69
From: singh...@gmail.com
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Another perennial herb probable any Zingiber sp, photographed from Deovan 
Herbal Garden in Chakrata. Please help in IDDr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  
Associate Professor

SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 

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RE: [efloraofindia:196092] Announcement of a New Journal Phytodiversity

[gurinder goraya]

Congrats and best wishes to the 'Phytodiversity' team for this very useful 
endeavor.
 
Regards,

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Deputy Director General (Research),
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Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:55:54 -0700
Subject: [efloraofindia:196082] Announcement of a New Journal Phytodiversity
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Dear membersIt gives me great pleasure to announce the plans launch of a New 
journal Phytodiversity. This has been possible largely due to the concerted 
efforts of Dr. Balkar Aingh and Dr. Nidhan Singh, ably guided by a dedicated 
editorial team and advisory board largely consisting of members of 
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and review articles as detailed in the three attached documents.
 I hereby formally request members to publicise this among your associates 
and coworkers and make full efforts towards its success. The active researchers 
of this group as well as all scientific community members are requested to 
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Balkar Singh and Dr. Nidhan Singh for onward processing. 
  Enclosed here the relevant three documents detailing guidelines to 
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launched in October-November. Congratulations to the efloraofindia 
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RE: [efloraofindia:194997] Campanulaceae Gentianaceae Fortnight: Gentianaceae: Unidentified from Tsomoreri::PKA16

[gurinder goraya]

Seems to be Lomatogonium sp.

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Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:52:34 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:193448] Campanulaceae  Gentianaceae Fortnight: 
Gentianaceae: Unidentified from Tsomoreri::PKA16
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Forwarding again for Idassistance please.


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Subject: [efloraofindia:193448] Campanulaceae  Gentianaceae Fortnight: 
Gentianaceae: Unidentified from Tsomoreri::PKA16
To: indiantreepix indiantreepix@googlegroups.com



Dear Friends,

I have only these 2  photographs for this herb.
 This photographs were taken in bit hurry at Tsomoreri lake, Ladakh at approx 
15000ft Altitude. I hope this is some Gentianaceae sp.??




date/Time: 13-09-2011 / 05:00PM
Location: Tsomoreri lake wet land, Ladakh
Altitude: 15000 ft (Approx).
Habitat: Wild
Plant habit: Herb.
No clue about its leaves etc. (Sorry?).

Regards


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RE: [efloraofindia:193614] Campanulaceae Gentianaceae Fortnight:: Pratia nummularia from Sikkim:: NS 22-Concluding Post

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Nidhan ji for your beautiful upload..
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
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Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 21:58:05 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:193596] Campanulaceae  Gentianaceae Fortnight:: Pratia 
nummularia from Sikkim:: NS 22-Concluding Post
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Dear All,
This prostrate, spreading herb was shot from Pelling in Sikkim..Pratia 
nummulariareally pretty!I conclude my postings of this fortnight with this..

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RE: [efloraofindia:193105] Helinus lanceolatus for sharing and validation:: NS June 15

[gurinder goraya]

There does not seem to be any doubt about the identification. It sure is 
Helinus lanceolatus.

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Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 16:19:15 +0530
Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:193026] Helinus lanceolatus for sharing and 
validation:: NS June 15
From: jmga...@gmail.com
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CC: nidhansingh...@gmail.com



Forwarding again for validation please.



  
 
  efi page on Helinus lanceolatus  

  
 




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Date: 29 June 2014 14:26
Subject: [efloraofindia:192367] Helinus lanceolatus for sharing and 
validation:: NS June 15
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Dear All,
This climber is common in lower hills of Haryana Siwaliks,  present shots were 
recorded from Chakrata area.I hope the id is correct as Helinus lanceolatus



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RE: [efloraofindia:192504] Re: 25062014GS3 a tree for ID from Chakrata-GSJUN08

[gurinder goraya]

Yes Sir, it is Benthamidia (=Cornus) capitata.
 
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Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 15:43:21 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:192389] Re: 25062014GS3 a tree for ID from 
Chakrata-GSJUN08
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I got some close ups from the area..submitting one of them ..

On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 3:35 PM, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes Sir. It is Cornus capitata, locally called as 'Bhamora' and fruits are 
edible.DSRawat Pantnagar


On Wednesday, June 25, 2014 10:47:00 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote:
Please help in the ID of this tree photographed from Chakrata in September 
2011Dr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007


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RE: [efloraofindia:191109] Re: Dr. Gurcharan Singh: Star of Plumabaginaceae and Primulaceae Fortnight

[gurinder goraya]

Congrats Sir. Your every upload is a learning experience for novices like me. 

 
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Subject: [efloraofindia:191106] Re: Dr. Gurcharan Singh: Star of 
Plumabaginaceae and Primulaceae Fortnight
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Thanks a lot Garg ji for appreciation and encouragement.Dr. Gurcharan 
SinghRetired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007

Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 




On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 8:42 AM, J.M. Garg jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

It gives me great pleasure to announce Dr. Gurcharan Singh as the Star of the 
Plumabagin​aceae and Primulacea​e Fortnight, having contributed 34 uploads 
during the fortnight. His uploads have always been of high quality giving full 
description etc. from different regions including USA giving us a glimpse of 
diversity. 


 Congrats Singh ji. Please continue with the good work. You remain Pitamah of 
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RE: [efloraofindia:191110] Runner up Stars of the Plumabaginaceae and Primulaceae Fortnight- Dr. Nidhan Singh, Dr. D S Rawat, Sh. Prashant Awale Dr. Gurinder Goraya

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Thanks Garg ji and all esteemed members of eflora of India for constant 
encouragement and liking the uploads.
 
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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:13:19 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:191105] Runner up Stars of the Plumabaginaceae and 
Primulaceae Fortnight- Dr. Nidhan Singh, Dr. D S Rawat, Sh. Prashant Awale  
Dr. Gurinder Goraya
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It gives me great pleasure to announce Dr. Nidhan Singh, Dr. D S Rawat, Sh. 
Prashant Awale  Dr. Gurinder Goraya as the Runner up Stars of the 
Plumabagin​aceae and Primulacea​e Fortnight, having contributed 24, 23, 20  20 
uploads respectively during the fortnight. Their uploads have always been of 
high quality in their own styles.  

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RE: [efloraofindia:191112] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (Incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight- Concluding Post: Shrub for id- Myrsine?:: NS June 27

[gurinder goraya]

It is Myrsine africana... quite common forest undergrowth in Shimla forests.

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Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 21:00:03 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:191098] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (Incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight- Concluding Post: Shrub for id- Myrsine?:: NS June 27
From: nidhansingh...@gmail.com
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Dear All,
I conclude my postings this fortnight with this shrub with bluish fruits which 
was shot from near H.P.University, Shimla..Can this be a Myrsine sp. ?

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RE: [efloraofindia:190943] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primulaceae-Species from Spiti valley::SMP3

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Satish ji,
 
It sure is Primula involucrata. 

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Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:41:25 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:190822] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primulaceae-Species from Spiti valley::SMP3
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One more species with only 2 available pictures. Sorry for not recording leaves.
For IDDr Satish Phadke





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RE: [efloraofindia:190714] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula sp. from Himachal: GSG-20

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Rawat ji, Tiwari ji for confirming identification...
 
Regards,

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Deputy Director General (Research),
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:13:24 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190665] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula sp. from Himachal: GSG-20
From: tigerumes...@gmail.com
To: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; gurind...@hotmail.com

Yes this is also Primula macrophylla. This is very variable species.
Regards,


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:51 AM, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com 
wrote:

To me both (this and earlier posted) are P. macrophylla. Variability of the 
species can be observed in primula world:
http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/photogallery.htm
DSRawat Pantnagar


On Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:27:04 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:



Dears,
 
I shot this Primula at Sach Pass (Chamba district, in Himachal; about 3800 m 
asl). Have not been able to fix its identity with the literature available with 
me. Previously I had kept it as P. macrophylla. However, during uploads for 
this fortnight, I find it different from the ones I have posted as P. 
macrophylla. Kindly help in its identification..

 
   
 
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RE: [efloraofindia:190715] 11062014GS1, Tree for ID from Chakrata-GSJUN01

[gurinder goraya]

Seems like Euonymus tingens!!

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Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 21:45:52 -0700
Subject: [efloraofindia:190649] 11062014GS1, Tree for ID from Chakrata-GSJUN01
From: singh...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Kindly help in the ID of this tree photographed from Chakrata Deovan Road in 
September.Dr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007

Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
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RE: [efloraofindia:190786] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula sp. from Himachal: GSG-20

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Thanks, Sir.
 
Regards,

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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 15:36:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190714] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula sp. from Himachal: GSG-20
From: singh...@gmail.com
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CC: tigerumes...@gmail.com; drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com; 
indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Very good photographs Gurinder jiDr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 




On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 2:27 AM, gurinder goraya gurind...@hotmail.com wrote:




Thanks Rawat ji, Tiwari ji for confirming identification...
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),

Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.

 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775
 

 

Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 11:13:24 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190665] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula sp. from Himachal: GSG-20
From: tigerumes...@gmail.com

To: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; gurind...@hotmail.com


Yes this is also Primula macrophylla. This is very variable species.
Regards,


On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:51 AM, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com 
wrote:


To me both (this and earlier posted) are P. macrophylla. Variability of the 
species can be observed in primula world:
http://www.primulaworld.com/PWweb/photogallery.htm
DSRawat Pantnagar


On Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:27:04 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:




Dears,
 
I shot this Primula at Sach Pass (Chamba district, in Himachal; about 3800 m 
asl). Have not been able to fix its identity with the literature available with 
me. Previously I had kept it as P. macrophylla. However, during uploads for 
this fortnight, I find it different from the ones I have posted as P. 
macrophylla. Kindly help in its identification..


 
   
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS


Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.


Uttarakhand, India.
 
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[efloraofindia:190409] RE: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula rosea from Himachal: GSG-17

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Rawat ji, Nidhan ji for liking the photographs and nice words.
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:23:12 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: 
Primula rosea from Himachal: GSG-17

Beautiful rosy Primula. I have not seen it yet in Uttarakhand in flowering. 
Thanks for showing.DSRawat Pantnagar

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:52:16 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
 
Primula rosea from Himachal [Rohtang Pass, Kullu; 3800 m asl]
 
   
   
 
Regards,
  
Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
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[efloraofindia:190412] RE: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula edgeworthii from Himachal: GSG-13

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Rawat ji,
 
It indeed is a hill beauty to marvel at. It is one of the three common Primula 
species that come to flowering at snow melt (on Rohtang slopes) - the other two 
being Primula denticulata and Primula rosea. Thanks for adding to the info.

Regards,
Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:18:20 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: 
Primula edgeworthii from Himachal: GSG-13

This Edgeworth' Primula is simply superb. A steep slope embellished with 
rosettes of this is a treat to watch after snow melt. I have seen it few times 
in Tungnath, Kedarnath, Khalya top ad few other alpine zones in 
Uttarakhand.DSRawat Pantnagar 

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:40:46 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
 
Primula edgeworthii from Himachal [Narkanda-Hatu, Shimla; 2800 m asl]
 
 
   
 
   
The colour variation is mainly due to ambient light conditions.  
 
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

  
  

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[efloraofindia:190414] RE: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula macrophylla from Himachal: GSG-15

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Rawat ji for the information...
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:14:52 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
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Subject: Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: 
Primula macrophylla from Himachal: GSG-15

One of the most beautiful Primula in alpines of Himalaya. Frank Smythe was 
amazed by its beauty when he saw it in Bhyundar Valley while returning from Mt 
Kamet expedition. This species and few others were so abundant there that he 
named the valley as Valley of Flowers.DSRawat Pantnagar

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:46:35 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
 
Primula macrophylla from Himachal [Sach Pass, Chamba; 3800 m asl]
 
 
   
 
   
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
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[efloraofindia:190415] RE: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula reptans from Himachal: GSG-16

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Rawat ji,
 
Thanks for nice words and the info...
 
I personally enjoy being amidst these alpine wonders and marvel at the 
colourscape laid out for us by Nature... It really is invigorating!!! 
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:12:01 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: 
Primula reptans from Himachal: GSG-16

Himalaya has amazing diversity of Primulas and you have collected a lot of them 
Sir.This is a rarer species making loose cushions on the moist slopes. Flowers 
are very large in comparison to leaves/ plants. Scape enlarges to great extent 
in fruiting stage to facilitate seed dispersal.DSRawat Pantnagar

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:49:48 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
 
Primula reptans from Himachal [Sach Pass, Chamba; 3900 m asl].
 
Merely 2 cm tall herb, with proportionally large flowers.
 
   
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

  
  

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[efloraofindia:190416] RE: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula involucrata from Himachal: GSG-14

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Rawat ji for liking the pics...
 
Regards

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:01:36 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
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CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: 
Primula involucrata from Himachal: GSG-14

Beautiful delicate primrose of alpine Himalaya with Marsh Marigold (Caltha 
palustris) in background... perfect catch to show plant and its environ.DSRawat 
Pantnagar.

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:44:08 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
 
Primula involucrata from Himachal [GHNP, Kullu; 3400 m asl]
 
   
 
   
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
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RE: [efloraofindia:190418] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula rosea from Himachal: GSG-17

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Tiwari ji, Aarti ji for liking the pics..
 
Regards, 

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:25:36 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190369] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula rosea from Himachal: GSG-17
From: tigerumes...@gmail.com
CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; gurind...@hotmail.com

Very Nice Sir Ji,
Regards,

On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 10:06 AM, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote:

Beautiful pictures!Aarti

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 6:22:16 AM UTC+4, gurinder goraya wrote:



Dears,
 
Primula rosea from Himachal [Rohtang Pass, Kullu; 3800 m asl]
 
 
  
   
 
Regards,
  

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,

New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
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RE: [efloraofindia:190475] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula stuartii from Himachal: GSG-19

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Prashant ji for appreciation..
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775
 
 
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 23:56:30 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190468] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula stuartii from Himachal: GSG-19
From: pkaw...@gmail.com
To: singh...@gmail.com
CC: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; 
gurind...@hotmail.com

Beautiful Primula.. Thanks a lot Goraya ji for sharing..
Regards
Prashant


On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for showing another yellow Primula.Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007

Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 





On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:06 PM, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com wrote:


Beautiful Primula. I saw it in a dark stream valley near Kedarnath. It is less 
common in Garhwal but makes a robust stature.DSRawat Pantnagar 

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:57:30 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:




Dears,
 
Primula stuartii from Himachal [GHNP, Kullu; 3600 m asl]
 
 
 

  
Flowers of this species are tucked in topi towards ceremonial head gear 
ornamentation.
 
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),


Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.


 
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RE: [efloraofindia:190476] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula stuartii from Himachal: GSG-19

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Gurcharan Sir for liking the pic...
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775
 
 
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:32:19 -0700
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190460] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula stuartii from Himachal: GSG-19
From: singh...@gmail.com
To: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; gurind...@hotmail.com

Thanks for showing another yellow Primula.Dr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  Associate 
Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007

Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 




On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 10:06 PM, D.S Rawat drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com wrote:

Beautiful Primula. I saw it in a dark stream valley near Kedarnath. It is less 
common in Garhwal but makes a robust stature.DSRawat Pantnagar 

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:57:30 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:



Dears,
 
Primula stuartii from Himachal [GHNP, Kullu; 3600 m asl]
 
 
 
  
Flowers of this species are tucked in topi towards ceremonial head gear 
ornamentation.
 
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),

Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.

 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

  





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RE: [efloraofindia:190477] RE: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula reptans from Himachal: GSG-16

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Sir. I value your comments. Any encouragement coming from your side is a 
motivation for exploring the Nature more thoroughly.
 
Regards, 

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775
 
 
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 10:17:41 -0700
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:190415] RE: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primula reptans from Himachal: GSG-16
From: singh...@gmail.com
To: gurind...@hotmail.com
CC: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com; indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Another interesting upload, thanks Gurinder ji.Dr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  
Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007

Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ 




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Dear Rawat ji,
 
Thanks for nice words and the info...
 
I personally enjoy being amidst these alpine wonders and marvel at the 
colourscape laid out for us by Nature... It really is invigorating!!! 

 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,

New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775


 
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 22:12:01 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: 
Primula reptans from Himachal: GSG-16


Himalaya has amazing diversity of Primulas and you have collected a lot of them 
Sir.This is a rarer species making loose cushions on the moist slopes. Flowers 
are very large in comparison to leaves/ plants. Scape enlarges to great extent 
in fruiting stage to facilitate seed dispersal.
DSRawat Pantnagar

On Tuesday, June 10, 2014 7:49:48 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
 
Primula reptans from Himachal [Sach Pass, Chamba; 3900 m asl].
 
Merely 2 cm tall herb, with proportionally large flowers.
 
 
  
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),

Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.

 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

  
  





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RE: [efloraofindia:190257] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (Incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight- Androsace lanuginosa for validation from Chakrata:: NS June 03

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Nidhan ji for sharing a series of beautiful pics..
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 12:30:52 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:190236] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (Incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight- Androsace lanuginosa for validation from Chakrata:: NS 
June 03
From: nidhansingh...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Dear All,
This species was recorded from Chakrata in May, 2012..I hope these pics belong 
to Androsace lanuginosa...Please validate..

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Department of Botany
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RE: [efloraofindia:190260] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Androsace delavayi from Himachal: GSG-07

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Dr. Rawat for liking the pic. I clicked this plant on the 4th day of my 
trek through Great Himalayan National Park. All through we were at altitudes 
above 3000 m asl. Yes, it could be around 3600 m asl...
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 22:07:22 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:190210] Re: Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. 
Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Androsace delavayi from Himachal: GSG-07

Beautiful plant making cushion over surface. Must be above 3600m. I saw it 
above 4000m in Garhwal with yellowish flowers. It is rarely seen in 
Uttarakhand.DSRawat Pantnagar

On Monday, June 9, 2014 6:32:20 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


 
Dears,
 
Androsace delavayi from Himachal [Great Himalayan National Park, Kullu; 3000 m 
asl]
 
   
 
  Regards,
 
Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
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RE: [efloraofindia:190181] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) Fortnight: Primulaceae- Primula sp-4. at Sar Pass ::-PKA20

[gurinder goraya]

Beautiful series of pics Prashant ji.

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
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Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 22:51:53 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:0] Plumbaginaceae and Primulaceae (incl. Myrsinaceae) 
Fortnight: Primulaceae- Primula sp-4. at Sar Pass ::-PKA20
From: pkaw...@gmail.com
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Dear Friends,

Sharing one more set of  photographs taken during Sar Pass trek. (Photos taken 
by my friend Mr Avinash Mujumdar).

Family: Primulaceae
Regards

Prashant





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RE: [efloraofindia:189960] A Good News on World Environment Day...Extinct Species Rediscovered

[gurinder goraya]

Great Rawat ji.  It indeed is a great news!! Congrats for rediscovery of a 
plant assumingly extinct in the wild. 
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 14:22:06 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:189882] A Good News on World Environment Day...Extinct 
Species Rediscovered
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

We have good
news on this day when a lot of environmental problems are discussed including
extinction of species.

 

Last year's
toil have fruited now. After a natural disaster (I call it natural because we
are also apart of nature's creation) in June 2013 in Utttarakhand Himalaya, we
(I with my student Satish) dared to venture into the anterior Kali Valley on a
trail leading to Kailash  Mansarovar, in July 2014. Hills were severely
bleeding with scars of active landslides and after Pithoragarh we changed 
vehicles
several times to reach Jauljibi for night stay.


Next day, once
again, after changing vehicles few times reached Dobat beyond which no vehicles
were available. Consequently, we trekked for about 25 kms to reach Pangla, a
village motorable in normal summer seasons. This trekking was adventurous (see
pics) and even the local people were not moving from their villages. After
Pangla there were numerous landslides and road was covered with sliding mantle 
of
earth; it is yet not repaired today. We trekked for nearly 15 km negotiating
ups and downs in the remote Himalayan terrain and reached Malpa, a place
remembered for a natural disaster in August 1998 in which entire Malpa (Malipa)
village and pilgrims to Kailash- Mansarovar were killed. Now this place has a
deserted look and Mahakali (as Kali river known in the area) roars in a deep
gorge hundred meters below old Malipa village site.

 

Despite of all
troubles in 40-45 km track we were rewarded by the collection of a presumed 
Extinct species Dipcadi reidii (Asparagaceae). Way back, in 1886, J.F. Duthie 
and J.R. Reid collected plants here and on the basis of
these specimens a new species D. reidii was published by Deb and S. Dasgupta in
1978. The species was never collected or seen by any other after 1886 and this
led to the assumption that it has become extinct (in Red Data Book of Indian
Plants and 1997 IUCN Redlist of threatened Plants). The locality of D. reidii
was, in fact, not clear in scientific literature and general plant collection
in the area didn't collect it.

 

It was
fortunate for us that our intentional botanical exploration in this remote
locality succeeded in rediscovery of it.

 

Our scientific
publication will appear in June issue of Rheedea and I received the proof of it
today.

 

Attached
pics narrate the story.  
Dr D.S.RawatDepartment of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of 
Agriculture  Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA






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RE: [efloraofindia:189176] Re: Welcome to efloraofindia Prof. Abid Hussain Munshi

[gurinder goraya]

Welcome Sir to the Group! 
 
Regards, 

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 04:21:06 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
CC: ahmunsh...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:189164] Re: Welcome to efloraofindia Prof. Abid Hussain 
Munshi

Welcome Sir!It has already started proving beneficial with your valuable 
comments on some Polygonum (sensu lato).DSRawat Pantnagar

On Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:31:56 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote:Dear 
membersIt gives me great pleasure to welcome Prof. Abid Hussain Munshi to 
efloraofindia Group. He has retired from the post of Prof.  Head from 
University of Kashmir, a few years back, and is still active in research with a 
good team of researchers. He is a world authority on Polygonaceae, having 
published several new species.
 He has been my colleague at University of Kashmir where we collected a lot 
of plants from remote areas of Jammu  Kashmir in early seventies before I 
shifted to Delhi. I am sure with his involvement we will have a lot of 
streamlining of our database especially with regard to NW Himalayas, and 
Polygonaceae in Particular.
 Welcome once again Prof. Abid. Dr. Gurcharan SinghRetired  Associate 
Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.

Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ 
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[efloraofindia:189177] RE: Welafre

[gurinder goraya]

Dear Prof. Munshi,
 
Thanks for your mail. Welcome to the e-group and thanks for providing correct 
identity of one Polygonum (Persicaria) sp. uploaded by me on the site... I am 
sure that we all will be immensely benefitting from your experience and insight 
into plant taxonomy. 
 
Leh, in your company, was a great experience. I am already looking forward to 
visit the area again from 17th June onwards for  a week. It would be my 
pleasure to meet you again, if you are there during those days.
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 17:49:50 +0530
Subject: Welafre
From: ahmunsh...@gmail.com
To: gurind...@hotmail.com

Dear Dr. Goraya Hope you must have reached safely and must be enjoying the 
happiest life with your family. I am really grateful for your company at leh 
ladakh.Hope our association will continue in future
With RegardsProf. A. H. Munshi

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RE: [efloraofindia:188361] Re: POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: Bistorta vaccinifolia from Himachal GSG-12

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Nidhan ji, Ritesh ji for liking the photographs.
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:02:59 +0530
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:188298] Re: POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: 
Bistorta vaccinifolia from Himachal GSG-12
From: nidhansingh...@gmail.com
To: ritesh@gmail.com
CC: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com; gurind...@hotmail.com

Very beautiful indeed..

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Ritesh Kumar Choudhary ritesh@gmail.com 
wrote:

Very beautiful! Thanks for sharing!
Regards,Ritesh.





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[efloraofindia:188362] RE: POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: Polygonum viviparum from Himachal GSG-06

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Ritesh ji, Rawat ji for appreciation.
 
Regards,

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
Uttarakhand, India.
 
Tel  Fax (O): 0135-2757775

 
Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 00:29:55 -0700
From: ritesh@gmail.com
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CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: Polygonum viviparum from 
Himachal GSG-06

Excellent shot! Many thanks for sharing this picture Goraya Ji!
Best regards,Ritesh.  

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RE: [efloraofindia:188363] POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: Bistorta affinis from Uttarakhand_DSR_13

[gurinder goraya]

What a lovely photo.. Thanks for transporting us to the higher Himalayas..

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
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Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 11:23:15 +0530
Subject: [efloraofindia:188273] POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: Bistorta 
affinis from Uttarakhand_DSR_13
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com

Bistorta affinis (D.Don) Greene is a common prostrate shrub in alpine
zones of Uttarakhand. It makes large thickets in meadows or among the boulders.

Photographed
near Vasuki Tal, Kedarnath area, 4500m altitude.Dr D.S.RawatDepartment of 
Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture  Technology 
Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA







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RE: [efloraofindia:188203] Re: POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: Polygonum viviparum from Himachal GSG-06

[gurinder goraya]

Thanks Dr. Rawat for the comments.

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
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Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 00:11:37 -0700
From: drdsrawat.alpin...@gmail.com
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CC: gurind...@hotmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:188162] Re: POLYGONACEAE FORTNIGHT 1-14 May 2014: 
Polygonum viviparum from Himachal GSG-06

Beautiful. The actual character behind the specific epithet (word). Many 
flowers get modified into bulbils. However, it is not vivipary in true sense 
since the seeds are not formed.DSRawat Pantnagar

On Sunday, May 11, 2014 7:15:44 AM UTC+5:30, gurinder goraya wrote:


Dears,
Kindly find below an image of Polygonum viviparum. Do we need any more examples 
of vivipary? 

 
   
 
Regards

Dr. G. S. Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research  Education,
New Forest P.O., DEHRADUN - 248 006.
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