Re: [JAWS-Users] linked in
Justin, Have you looked for a mobile versions? Perhaps that would be more accessible. But likely not as full-featured. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Justin Williams" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 07:38 Subject: [JAWS-Users] linked in So, I've noticed that the linked in page is not but so user friendly. Does anyone have any tips? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] linked in
Never was very accessible, over the past 6 years of being signed in. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Justin Williams" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2018 07:38 Subject: [JAWS-Users] linked in So, I've noticed that the linked in page is not but so user friendly. Does anyone have any tips? Justin For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] wlmjunk folder
Lenny, No telling, but there may be a particular name or word in those messages, in the thread, that are causing them to be junked. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 04:07 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] wlmjunk folder Dave, what I do not understand that it is not all of the messages.About 60% work normally. And it is not just one list. -Original Message----- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2018 12:01 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] wlmjunk folder Lenny, I've had the same problem with messages from the Blind Phones list all going into my junk folder. I think the only remedy is to go to your ISP on the web and try to find a way to make those domains part of a safe senders list. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: "JFW List" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 20:15 Subject: [JAWS-Users] wlmjunk folder I am using win 7 and wlm 2012. I just looked at my wlm junk folder and there were almost 100 messages from the past 3 or 4 days. Quite a few were from this list. Probably the majority but many from other groups to which I subscribe. Not all messages from each group were flagged as junk.Any idea on why a few from each group are flagged? --- Please visit my web page It�s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] wlmjunk folder
Lenny, I've had the same problem with messages from the Blind Phones list all going into my junk folder. I think the only remedy is to go to your ISP on the web and try to find a way to make those domains part of a safe senders list. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Lenny McHugh" To: "JFW List" Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 20:15 Subject: [JAWS-Users] wlmjunk folder I am using win 7 and wlm 2012. I just looked at my wlm junk folder and there were almost 100 messages from the past 3 or 4 days. Quite a few were from this list. Probably the majority but many from other groups to which I subscribe. Not all messages from each group were flagged as junk.Any idea on why a few from each group are flagged? --- Please visit my web page It�s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Key + F12
Suggest you restart JAWS.\ Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Josh" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 16:23 Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Key + F12 Hey All, I am not sure why this is, but when I press JAWS key + F12 it no longer announces the time or date. Can anyone help with this? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13
How about Ctrl+Shift+F? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 08:53 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Find Function in MS Word 13 Morning all. I have a curious problem regarding MS Word 2013. For some strange reason, I cannot seem to get the Control F (find) function to work. I can go through the ribbons and get to the function that way, but it will not work either. Has anyone ever come across this problem as well, and if so, what was the remedy? Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
Andy, Yes, insert+f7 brings up a list of links, but insert+f5 is necessary to bring up a list that contains buttons. He was looking for a button. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 13:38 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart INSERT F7 renders a list of links. Andy - Original Message - From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart >I have no problem using Amazon. And to find a button, you use Insert+F5, >not > F7. > > Dave > Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer > > > - Original Message - > From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:30 > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > > noticing the same issue with amazon.com I tried to purchase something but > could not find any button to add to card. I did insert key and f7. Did not > work. Using IE 11, jaws 2018 and W10 april. > > -Original Message- > From: Dave...Oregonian > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:25 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > Gerald, > > The presence of variable will depend on what you are ordering. I selected > a > DIY frame, and a combo list was presented with a style type to pick. But > regardless, I was not able to work the buttons after that. > > But I did see a thread on the JFW list with a similar issue in selecting > something on the screen. Here is that solution: > > To select the tick box with JAWS, simply press the bypass key, JAWS key+3 > then space bar. This will tick it. > > Give that a try and let us know. > > Dave > Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer > > > - Original Message - > From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:11 > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > > > On Hollar.com, there are no variables. There are no elements other than > the > quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping > cart button. You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more > than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart. But no keystroke > will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader. > > Gerald > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dave...Oregonian > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart > Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo > box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will > activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then > a > number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size > or > a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated. > There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on > the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to > JAWS. > > Dave > Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer > > > - Original Message - > From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56 > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > > this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button > > -Original Message- > From: T. Civitello > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will > work. > Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate > link > and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try. Tom > > -Original Message- > From: Judy > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites > to > purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my > cart. > I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get > any
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
Gerald and Steve, I used Chrome in my attempts this morning to no avail. But then I didn't select more than one item, so did not meet the minimum $10 requirement... Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:59 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Maybe Hollar.com is only accessible with Chrome and not with IE 11 or Firefox 52 ESR, both of which I tried. Can't try Chrome because I'm still using JAWS 16. Gerald -Original Message- From: Steve Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:49 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart With Hollar, I had no issues adding a couple items to my cart. The site isn't what I'd call totally accessible -- but it's close. I used Jaws 18 with Google Chrome version 66.something. I searched for Mosquito and added a set of three mosquito bands to my cart. Then, I went to the pest control category and added some rodent glue traps to my cart. I did n't try to checkout, but I did verify that there were two items in the cart and it showed my total; although I needed a $10 minimum order to check-out. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:30 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites. > For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on > Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens. I have tried the space bar, enter > key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail. And switching to > another screen reader doesn't work, either. If anyone has a work around, > pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, > and trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart. > > Gerald > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dave...Oregonian > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > Judy, > > That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which > sites > you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you > able > to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites? > > C'mon, give us a clue here. > > Dave > Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer > > > - Original Message - > From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30 > Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart > > > Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites > to > purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my > cart. > I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get > anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of > them > worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something > work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby > > > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
I have no problem using Amazon. And to find a button, you use Insert+F5, not F7. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:30 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart noticing the same issue with amazon.com I tried to purchase something but could not find any button to add to card. I did insert key and f7. Did not work. Using IE 11, jaws 2018 and W10 april. -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Gerald, The presence of variable will depend on what you are ordering. I selected a DIY frame, and a combo list was presented with a style type to pick. But regardless, I was not able to work the buttons after that. But I did see a thread on the JFW list with a similar issue in selecting something on the screen. Here is that solution: To select the tick box with JAWS, simply press the bypass key, JAWS key+3 then space bar. This will tick it. Give that a try and let us know. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:11 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart On Hollar.com, there are no variables. There are no elements other than the quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping cart button. You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart. But no keystroke will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader. Gerald -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then a number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size or a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated. There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to JAWS. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button -Original Message- From: T. Civitello Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will work. Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate link and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try. Tom -Original Message- From: Judy Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart. I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
Gerald, Okay, another shot using Hollar.com. I first tried to use the bypass key (Insert+3) and then press spacebar -- no reaction. Tried it on both buttons. Then Tried to route JAWS to pc and used left mouse button. I heard the word "forbidden" and apparently nothing. Same with the "added" button. Not sure if I am required to set up an account before I can actually purchase something or not, so I didn't go further than that. Have you tied any of these ideas? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:24 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Thankks for checking out this site. At least I'm not the only one who is having this issue. When you click on the add to shopping cart button, nothing happens. There is no audible feedback to indicate that any action has been taken. And there is apparently no way to access the shopping cart to see whether anything has been added. It's too bad because Hollar has a lot of great stuff cheap, but I guess it is not JAWS accessible. Gerald -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Gerald, Out of curiosity, I went to hollar.com. Yes, found the same issue you report. This shopping site does not play well, as compared to Amazon. Even if I make sure to select a color, style, or size and make sure that there is a quantity in the edit spin box, pressing on either the "Add to Cart?" button or the "Added" button does not give any feedback. Moreover I'm not familiar enough with the site to know just how to proceed to checkout to see if the items are in the cart or not. I could not find an element with words like "checkout", "proceed", "go to", or "view cart". I also suspect that this site updates itself periodically without warning so as to wipe out the current search list, so that added a level of frustration. I'll stick with Amazon for now. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 03:30 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites. For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens. I have tried the space bar, enter key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail. And switching to another screen reader doesn't work, either. If anyone has a work around, pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, and trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart. Gerald -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Judy, That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which sites you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you able to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites? C'mon, give us a clue here. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30 Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart. I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
Gerald, The presence of variable will depend on what you are ordering. I selected a DIY frame, and a combo list was presented with a style type to pick. But regardless, I was not able to work the buttons after that. But I did see a thread on the JFW list with a similar issue in selecting something on the screen. Here is that solution: To select the tick box with JAWS, simply press the bypass key, JAWS key+3 then space bar. This will tick it. Give that a try and let us know. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:11 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart On Hollar.com, there are no variables. There are no elements other than the quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping cart button. You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart. But no keystroke will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader. Gerald -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then a number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size or a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated. There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to JAWS. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button -Original Message- From: T. Civitello Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will work. Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate link and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try. Tom -Original Message- From: Judy Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart. I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
Gerald, Out of curiosity, I went to hollar.com. Yes, found the same issue you report. This shopping site does not play well, as compared to Amazon. Even if I make sure to select a color, style, or size and make sure that there is a quantity in the edit spin box, pressing on either the "Add to Cart?" button or the "Added" button does not give any feedback. Moreover I'm not familiar enough with the site to know just how to proceed to checkout to see if the items are in the cart or not. I could not find an element with words like "checkout", "proceed", "go to", or "view cart". I also suspect that this site updates itself periodically without warning so as to wipe out the current search list, so that added a level of frustration. I'll stick with Amazon for now. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 03:30 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites. For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens. I have tried the space bar, enter key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail. And switching to another screen reader doesn't work, either. If anyone has a work around, pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, and trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart. Gerald -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Judy, That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which sites you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you able to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites? C'mon, give us a clue here. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30 Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart. I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then a number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size or a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated. There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to JAWS. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button -Original Message- From: T. Civitello Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will work. Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate link and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try. Tom -Original Message- From: Judy Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart. I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart
Judy, That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which sites you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you able to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites? C'mon, give us a clue here. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30 Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites to purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my cart. I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of them worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] installing an old version of jaws
Karen, David is correct in your case, where you are staying within the current JAWS paradigm. My caution was meant for others who might be inclined to install a version of JAWS back to version 15 from current versions. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Karen Schrade" <kschr...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 09:36 Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing an old version of jaws Okay, I'm going crazy with jaws not keeping up with typing in outlook 2007. I've got win 7 and am using jaws 18 with the latest update. I only have jaws 18 on this laptop. Can I install jaws 17? Would I have to uninstall 18 and then install 17? I seem to remember something about not being able to install old versions of jaws if a new version is on the computer. Thanks, Karen For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] installing an old version of jaws
Caution: If installing JAWS 15 or older when JAWS 16 or newer already installed, will result in some problems. Usually requires removing the new versions, install the old one, and then reinstall the new ones. There was a significant shift in the paradigm of how JAWS interacts, around the time of JAWS 16 inception. Consult with Freedom Scientific. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:32 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] installing an old version of jaws Install whatever version you wish without removing any other version, HTH. -Original Message- From: Karen Schrade Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 12:36 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] installing an old version of jaws Okay, I'm going crazy with jaws not keeping up with typing in outlook 2007. I've got win 7 and am using jaws 18 with the latest update. I only have jaws 18 on this laptop. Can I install jaws 17? Would I have to uninstall 18 and then install 17? I seem to remember something about not being able to install old versions of jaws if a new version is on the computer. Thanks, Karen For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel 13 Question
Simple. If your numbers are in cells A1 and B1 then type this in C1: =A1*b1 Then copy cell C1 to any number of cells down from C2 Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "jerry martin" <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: "Jaws Users" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2018 15:16 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Excel 13 Question Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to multiply 2 or more cells or a column of cells in Excel 13, using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop? Thanks in advance. -- Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] excel 2013 and dates
Your date format is not set the way you expect. Ctrl+1 to bring up a dialog to allow you to select a different format. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "leonard morris" <lmorris1...@gmail.com> To: "Jaws" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 08:40 Subject: [JAWS-Users] excel 2013 and dates It seems everytime I type the date 5/5/2018 in Excel 2018 it keeps showing 5/18 and not 5/5/2018. I deleted the text and wrote it again but it won't input correctly even if I type 05/05/2018 it keeps happening. Any other date I input appears correctly. -- "Every country has an idenity, history, customs, and culture. It's a unique landscape in determining how its people live, work and play." For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Tom,
Thanks for helping me save some money. I guess it's not memory space, but
more a problem with resource allocation and interrupt priority.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 09:43
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Dave, don't think increasing RAM will do much. I am running Win 7 and have
24G RAM installed and I still have the problem. Tom
-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 9:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
You caught me. I forgot to give feedback. Overall, I saw no discernable
improvement. The only solution that works for me is to dump JAWS and restart
(Insert+Windows+F4) whenever it starts to get cranky, then it starts working
better again.
I'm also considering purchasing RAM to double my capacity from 4G to 8G,
thinking that JAWS is becoming a memory hog, or not playing nice when
sharing space.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 08:43
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Dave, never did see a message with the result of what your were going to do.
How did this work? Tom
-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
John,
Interesting...One thing I can do (and have just done) is to increase the
priority of the JFW process. I'm going to try running my system this way for
a while to see if anything improves.
My system is a Dell laptop with Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, dual core processor.
I'm running the latest build of JAWS 2018.
What I did was to launch the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl+Shift+Escape) and
Ctrl+Tab to the processes list. I arrowed down to jfw.exe and opened the
context menu. From there I selected the "set priority" menu and right-arrow
to open. JFW was set to run as normal, and I've changed it to high, waited a
bit, and then selected the set priority button after the cautionary warning.
Close Windows Task Manager with Escape.
Now let's see if JAWS behaves better with this setting. If it does, I'd sure
like to know how to have it permanently set to high priority, as I suspect
it will default to normal after a restart.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: <john_just...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 07:16
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.
In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group. Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.
1. THE ISSUE AT HAND: apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM. Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another. The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT: It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority. I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3. According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM into smaller compartments which then handle this function. The entire
process scares the heck out of me. It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.
4. A WORKING SOLUTION: I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions. For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets. But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded. The down time has been measured and it is usually approximately32
seconds.
5. CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS: Finally, we have established
hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to res
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
You caught me. I forgot to give feedback. Overall, I saw no discernable
improvement. The only solution that works for me is to dump JAWS and restart
(Insert+Windows+F4) whenever it starts to get cranky, then it starts working
better again.
I'm also considering purchasing RAM to double my capacity from 4G to 8G,
thinking that JAWS is becoming a memory hog, or not playing nice when
sharing space.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 08:43
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Dave, never did see a message with the result of what your were going to do.
How did this work? Tom
-Original Message-
From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 9:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
John,
Interesting...One thing I can do (and have just done) is to increase the
priority of the JFW process. I'm going to try running my system this way for
a while to see if anything improves.
My system is a Dell laptop with Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, dual core processor.
I'm running the latest build of JAWS 2018.
What I did was to launch the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl+Shift+Escape) and
Ctrl+Tab to the processes list. I arrowed down to jfw.exe and opened the
context menu. From there I selected the "set priority" menu and right-arrow
to open. JFW was set to run as normal, and I've changed it to high, waited a
bit, and then selected the set priority button after the cautionary warning.
Close Windows Task Manager with Escape.
Now let's see if JAWS behaves better with this setting. If it does, I'd sure
like to know how to have it permanently set to high priority, as I suspect
it will default to normal after a restart.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: <john_just...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 07:16
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.
In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group. Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.
1. THE ISSUE AT HAND: apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM. Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another. The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT: It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority. I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3. According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM into smaller compartments which then handle this function. The entire
process scares the heck out of me. It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.
4. A WORKING SOLUTION: I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions. For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets. But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded. The down time has been measured and it is usually approximately32
seconds.
5. CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS: Finally, we have established
hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to restart. Occasionally,
though rarely, Jaws wil not restart after one of these incidents. We use
three key combinations which are dedicated to reactivating Jaws.
The entire thing is frustrating to say the least, Mike. But it's something
we just put up with since jaws performs so well in most other respects.
JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Good morning all! I'm trying to help with one of our employees here at work
on an issue where JAWS f
Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?
Gerald, Hmm. It has worked the same way for me over several past versions. If that's a screwed-up mess, then as I said, there are many programs that would qualify for that award. I find it very easy to use, even if it doesn't have any standard menu structure. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 07:12 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? It sounds like CCleaner 5.42 is a screwed-up mess. Gerald -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 10:05 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? Gerald, I'll jump in here, as well. I'm using version 5.42.6495. Windows 7 32-bit Professional SP 1.Using JAWS 2018 latest build, but works all the way back to version 16, as well. As I tab through the program, I land on buttons. I press a button with the spacebar, and continue to tab, as there are now other buttons resulting. e.g. if I tab past the Tools button, I land on the next button -- Options. But is I select Tools, Uninstall, Startup, Browser Plug Ins, etc. With continual Tabbing, I come back around to the first button "Check for Updates". If I select the Uninstall button,and tab enough, I land on a list view, showing all my installed programs. I can navigate this list using the up/down arrows, as well as first-letter navigation to jump quickly to a particular program. There are times when I select from a list and select an action like remove, where I lose focus. Then all I do is Alt-tab away and back in to CCleaner and tab back to the list. IF that is not accessible, then I have several other programs that are totally worse. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 03:57 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? I don't understand. Mike D., one of the most knowledgeable members of this list insists that CCleaner 5.42 is not JAWS accessible, yet you claim that you have no issues with it. How can this be? Gerald -Original Message- From: Dennis Long Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? I have no issues with 5.42 -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? That's reassuring. But Piriform has been known to play games with its customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible. Is this true? Gerald -Original Message- From: Orlando Enrique Fiol Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? Hi Gerald. Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install without any third party software at all. At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote: > >So are you saying that you were able to download and install the standard version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast being installed along withit? > >Gerald Orlando Enrique Fiol For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version?
Gerald, I'll jump in here, as well. I'm using version 5.42.6495. Windows 7 32-bit Professional SP 1.Using JAWS 2018 latest build, but works all the way back to version 16, as well. As I tab through the program, I land on buttons. I press a button with the spacebar, and continue to tab, as there are now other buttons resulting. e.g. if I tab past the Tools button, I land on the next button -- Options. But is I select Tools, Uninstall, Startup, Browser Plug Ins, etc. With continual Tabbing, I come back around to the first button "Check for Updates". If I select the Uninstall button,and tab enough, I land on a list view, showing all my installed programs. I can navigate this list using the up/down arrows, as well as first-letter navigation to jump quickly to a particular program. There are times when I select from a list and select an action like remove, where I lose focus. Then all I do is Alt-tab away and back in to CCleaner and tab back to the list. IF that is not accessible, then I have several other programs that are totally worse. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 03:57 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? I don't understand. Mike D., one of the most knowledgeable members of this list insists that CCleaner 5.42 is not JAWS accessible, yet you claim that you have no issues with it. How can this be? Gerald -Original Message- From: Dennis Long Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 4:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? I have no issues with 5.42 -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2018 6:47 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? That's reassuring. But Piriform has been known to play games with its customers, and just because no unwanted software is installed along with CCleaner 5.42 does not necessarily mean that Piriform won't again try to sneak in unwanted software in a future release of CCleaner. And according to the moderator of the Tech Talk list, CCleaner 5.42 may not be accessible. Is this true? Gerald -Original Message- From: Orlando Enrique Fiol Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 9:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What Happened to CCleaner Slim Version? Hi Gerald. Yes, I can assure you that CCleaner 5.42 standard will install without any third party software at all. At 06:17 PM 4/30/2018, Gerald Levy wrote: > >So are you saying that you were able to download and install the standard version of CCleaner 5.42 without any unwanted software like Avast being installed along withit? > >Gerald Orlando Enrique Fiol For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] contacts list
bob, Give me a clue -- which mail client are you using? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Bob Hicks" <b...@seeinghandassociation.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 10:50 Subject: [JAWS-Users] contacts list How do I add a new contact to my contacts list? thanks Have a great day! Bob Hicks For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages
Dennis, Please then send a message to supp...@freedomscientific.com and complain. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Dennis Long" <dennisl1...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 17:01 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages I have this issue as well. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages Yes, there are. I brought it to VFO's attention by email and on the phone a month or two ago without getting any good answer or promises for a fix. As Dave urged, I hope everyone experiencing it will notify VFO. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Cher Bosch Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 6:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a lot of us who have your issue. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook 2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info: "Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and, sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function normally again. I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail message. This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen. Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue. Thanks. John, a frustrated JAWS user. PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional and Outlook 2013. Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages
Yes. Only solution I've found is to do a JAWS+Windows+F4 restart. Something in JAWS is getting confused, cluttered, or forgetful. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Cher Bosch" <oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 14:59 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages Does it begin reading everything in tables mode? If so, there are probably a lot of us who have your issue. Cher -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook 2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info: "Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and, sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function normally again. I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail message. This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen. Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue. Thanks. John, a frustrated JAWS user. PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional and Outlook 2013. Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages
John, Just forwarded our thread to supp...@freedomscientific.com. I recommend you do the same. Also on your work computer, is it using Windows 7 or Windows 10? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 07:55 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages John, I'm having the same issue with latest (and a couple builds before that) and Windows 7. My email client is OE, but same issue with html messages. Only solution is to use JAWS+Windows+F4 to dump and restart JAWS. Then it's fine. Happens a couple times a day. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "JOHN RIEHL" <realma...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 07:38 Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook 2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info: "Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and, sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function normally again. I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail message. This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen. Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue. Thanks. John, a frustrated JAWS user. PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional and Outlook 2013. Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages
John, I'm having the same issue with latest (and a couple builds before that) and Windows 7. My email client is OE, but same issue with html messages. Only solution is to use JAWS+Windows+F4 to dump and restart JAWS. Then it's fine. Happens a couple times a day. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "JOHN RIEHL" <realma...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2018 07:38 Subject: [JAWS-Users] still having issue with Outlook and HTML messages Hi. I'm still having the vexing and annoying issue of the latest issue of JAWS periodically changing how it reads Outlook messages (windows-7, Outlook 2010). JAWS will be doing a great job of reading a message, then, for no apparent reason, when I bring up the next message, read all kinds of info: "Table 1, row 1, nesting level 3." etc. I have to close Outlook and, sometimes, JAWS and bring them back for JAWS and Outlook to function normally again. I'm doing nothing to cause this to happen except bringing up the next e-mail message. This does not happen with every message, but it is repeatable, in that if I read e-mail long enough it will, inevitably, happen. Frankly, this is unacceptable. It would be helpful if the VFO folks who monitor this list could at least acknowledge the problem. I'm happy to spend time on the phone with VFO tech support so they can see the problem. I know I'm not the only one who is experiencing this issue. Thanks. John, a frustrated JAWS user. PS For whatever reason, this does not happen at work with JAWS Professional and Outlook 2013. Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws
Didn't hear about that. Wonder what they will replace it with? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gerald Levy " <bwaylimi...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2018 03:20 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws But Apple just announced yesterday that it will stop making and selling the Airport router, so this nay no longer be a viable alternative. Gerald -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 9:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws David, Oh, the Apple Airport router definitely works with Windows, as well as Mac. It does not care. It generates a very strong signal, compared to my Arris router. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:12 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws Dave, I have never heard of this router, please elaborate on it if you can. I was always under the impression that anything Apple would not be so easy to configure in Windows. -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws Sandy, As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well. You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability. However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy h" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws thanks On 4/26/18, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: > I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the > easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible. > > -Original Message- > From: sandy h > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws > > can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws
David, Oh, the Apple Airport router definitely works with Windows, as well as Mac. It does not care. It generates a very strong signal, compared to my Arris router. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <ow...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 11:12 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws Dave, I have never heard of this router, please elaborate on it if you can. I was always under the impression that anything Apple would not be so easy to configure in Windows. -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 10:57 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws Sandy, As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well. You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability. However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy h" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws thanks On 4/26/18, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: > I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the > easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible. > > -Original Message- > From: sandy h > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws > > can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws
Sandy, As far as the simplest to set up, and signal strength, get the Apple Airport router. The GUI to do adjustments is quite accessible, as well. You did not say whether you are using cable or telephone data as your incoming broadband. Either will require you get a modem to interface with the broadband. Many of those broadband routers come with Wi-Fi capability. However in my case I turned off the Wi-Fi in my Arris Cable modem and use the Apple Airport to do all the Wi-Fi work. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy h" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 07:22 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws thanks On 4/26/18, David Ferrin <ow...@jaws-users.com> wrote: > I have owned either Net gear or Linksys myself. To say if they were the > easiest to configure I can not say. I can say they were accessible. > > -Original Message- > From: sandy h > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:55 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws-users] wifi router and jaws > > can someone tell me the easiest wifi router to set up using jaws 17? vista > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016
Sharon, If you are waiting for an update to JAWS 18 to fix this, I'm not sure there will be any more updates to an older version of JAWS, unless it's a pretty big bug. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Sharon S" <ko...@areujoking.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2018 08:26 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016 Hi, sorry coming in late on this but slowly catching up on a huge pile of emails. I too have had this problem with allot of my documents. I looked into the font setting and all looked fine so I got a sighted family member to look at one of my documents and all was fine. I have bought this up with someone from VFO and was told it was going to be fixed in the next update but that was months ago and so far no fix. I am using Jaws 18 on this machine but haven't checked the same documents on the machine running Jawx 2018. At first I thought it was something funny with my machine until I mentioned it to this VFO person and I am now glad to see there are others reporting the same thing. Hopefully it will be fixed soon. >From Shaz. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 11:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016 Hi Annette, Thank you very much for the confirmation. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: amca...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016 Hi Mike, Based on what I have figured out, the black on black announcement from JAWS is not accurate. Visually it is black on white. I have not played with actual font colors and backgrounds to see how JAWS reports seeing the colors, but I have found that using the "highlighter" JAWS accurately reports the highlight color and the text as being black. I wasted a lot of time trying to figure this out and got nowhere. I finally snagged a co-worker who was walking by my office and borrowed their eyes. They reported that everything looked fine on the screen as well as when I printed it out. I've not checked any of this out in Excel. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 4:57 PM To: Jaws-Users <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws & Word 2016 Hi All, Running Windows 7 Pro, J16 thru J2018 latest, with Office 2016. In Word Jaws is reporting that the colors are, black on black. Where do I go to change the background color to white? Thanks mooy moocho. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] New up-date Jaws 2018
Gino, I think next time just install the update over your existing copy. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Gene Stone" <geno9...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 07:40 Subject: [JAWS-Users] New up-date Jaws 2018 I just thought, would tell the group, if anyone else has a issue installing the latest up-date, from VFO/Freedom Scientific site. I went and obtained a fresh copy and removed Jaws, 2018, older version, from the Control panel. Installed, this latest up-date, the complete Jaws 2018 package. Which said was successful. Then I always do a repair in-case something left out. In doing so, found at 71/72% it would say error and a couple of things not found or installed correctly. So, called and talked to Tech Support VFO, Dane, in California, and he could not install either. Even with a fresh copy. So, his recommendation was to completely uninstall all components of Jaws 2018. I kept settings. FS Reader and Jaws and all the rest, bye-bye. Restart the computer, Install, then the repair and bingo. I am back running. Those that have posted about what is not working, might this be a issue. Being what I had? Geno, Portland, ME. Where spring might arrive one day. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] steps to insert organisational chart in ms word
Sorry, but although I researched the concept, I never actually purchased one of these programs. It was over 30 years ago, so I do not have any results of that research. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "korbamukesh" <korbamuk...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2018 22:37 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] steps to insert organisational chart in ms word hello, thanks much for your reply. I have not tried any programs as mentioned by you so could please suggest me any program if you have tried? On 4/18/18, Dave...Oregonian <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > I have not been able to use the drag and drop capability in MS Word, and I > think it would require some sight to be able to do this. Have you > considered > > looking for a program that allows you to input the data in text format, > and > > then have it create the org chart? Many years ago I was trying to find > such > > a program, and I think a couple did exist. > > Dave > Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer > > > - Original Message - > From: "korbamukesh" <korbamuk...@gmail.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 03:55 > Subject: [JAWS-Users] steps to insert organisational chart in ms word > > > hello, > I would like to know the steps to create organizational charts using > Microsoft word 2007. for this purpose, I have explored the option > under smart art in insert menu but couldn't figure out the accessible > way. I am using jaws 18 as my screen reader. so kindly detail the > steps to create and insert the data under organizational chart. > > your help is much appreciated. > thanks, > mukesh > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] steps to insert organisational chart in ms word
I have not been able to use the drag and drop capability in MS Word, and I think it would require some sight to be able to do this. Have you considered looking for a program that allows you to input the data in text format, and then have it create the org chart? Many years ago I was trying to find such a program, and I think a couple did exist. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "korbamukesh" <korbamuk...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2018 03:55 Subject: [JAWS-Users] steps to insert organisational chart in ms word hello, I would like to know the steps to create organizational charts using Microsoft word 2007. for this purpose, I have explored the option under smart art in insert menu but couldn't figure out the accessible way. I am using jaws 18 as my screen reader. so kindly detail the steps to create and insert the data under organizational chart. your help is much appreciated. thanks, mukesh For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon and accessibility
Hello Takis , I notice that in my email, your email address is showing up as Greek letters, and not standard Arabic characters. This might explain the problem. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Panagiotis Antonopoulos" <panto...@windtools.gr> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 07:16 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon and accessibility Hello Pam, No, I check it all the time. Just one suspicion I have though unlikelz, is that some sillz securitz option maz be considering mz name pantonop for Panagiotis Antonopoulos as something like pant etc and throws it out. But I have never had such an issue with anz other sites. Take care, Takis -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 4:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon and accessibility Takis, Is it possible that the email from Amazon with the verification code ended up in a spam or junk folder rather than in your inbox? Pam From: JAWS-Users-List [jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] on behalf of Panagiotis Antonopoulos [panto...@windtools.gr] Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 1:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon and accessibility Hi Judy/all, Because I sent something similar to our group, I do not know if your reference concerned my posting (a male in that case), but I never received a reply and I have still problems with Amazon, being unable to access my account from my new Lenovo computer, because they need verification, and the purported code sent to my email address just never reaches me so that I can continue. I also wrote to their helpdesk and received no reply so far. So, I am really puzzled as it only happens with Amazon. Greetings from Greece, Takis -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Judy Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 5:53 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] amazon and accessibility Hi, did the person who had trouble with changing her account on amazon able to do that? I have3n't heard anything since I sent my reply in and just wondered. Also, is anyone who uses IE 11 been having more trouble lately using it with Jaws on websites in general? I have notided this in the last week or so. Thanks. Judy & Libby For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Getting text that Jaws cannot get to
...is your Window maximized? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Glenn At Home" <glenner...@cableone.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 22:43 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Getting text that Jaws cannot get to Hi, I am using Excel, and usually I press control + F2 twice quickly, and I can copy the formula that comes up. Only now I can only read the okay button, like it is in one of those message boxes that we cannot get to. If I do an insert + B, it reads the window, I just cannot copy the formula as I usually do. What is the command for making a non editable window copyable? I know there is such a command, for copying messages that we normally cannot copy. Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue
Sounds like your friend has not yet set up any credit or debit cards. If they have not, then they would not have any payment options. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 06:48 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue You have to be logged in or you can't get to that Account Options, as the Amazon Disability person referred to it, or to the Payment Options link. Even when I was logged in on the main page, I was asked to log in again when I pressed enter on the Your Account Link. It needs to know who we are to know what account info to access. Smile. We used to have three site options for Amazon: The main site, a really simplified site and one in-between. On this middle one, there was a link at the bottom to let you return to the main site. Those choices seem to have been taken away now. I think it's patronizing to automatically be sent to a site for screen readers, if that's what's happening. There are those who prefer the supposedly more accessible sites, but others not. And we as users should be in control of which to use. Smile. JMO. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 8:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue Rebecca, did you make sure you were logged in when you did your tests? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:49 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue I went back to Amazon this morning. My friend had gone all down the Your Account Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was no Account Options. She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word Options. JAWS said it was not there. This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search for the word Payment, And again, that was not there. My friend does not have Amazon Prime. Nor do I. There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no joy as a roundabout way of getting to Account or Payment Options Since I was told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime. Here is what I see when I go to the Your Account Page: JAWS says there are 11 links. Your Account Amazon.com Your Account View Orders Choose Period: Open and recently shipped orders Continue Amazon Prime Manage Prime Membership Gift Cards Search Go Cart Your Account 1-Click Settings List & Registry Find a List or Registry Sign Out Help Home Legal Terms Several people said they could reach the Payment Options Link using IE11, JAWS 2010 and Windows 10. This is what my friend is using. But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon. For me, it made no difference. I got the same page with the information copied above. I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google search, just in case that made a difference. It doesn't.. I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot. Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need access to the account information page. Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my friend and I are having could be replicated. Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how widespread the problem is. Rebecca -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7, and I had JAWS 17 loaded. -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue Hi, Rebecca. I have the same experience as Dave. Note the obvious difference between "account options," which I couldn't find, and "payment options," which is on the "Your Account" page and which gives customers the ability to edit payment details. One other thought. Amazon recognizes my computer when I go to the website, even though it will ask me to enter my password in certain cases. Does Amazon recognize you
Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue
Good thought, but I have the blocker on, and am still able to find the "Payment Options" link. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 05:51 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue I'm curious, do the people having success with the page have their pop-up blocker turned off? Ran into a similar situation recently, and the pop-up blocker was the problem. HTH, Rick Justice "Tomorrow's another day, another way!" "and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!" - Original Message - From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue I went back to Amazon this morning. My friend had gone all down the Your Account Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was no Account Options. She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word Options. JAWS said it was not there. This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search for the word Payment, And again, that was not there. My friend does not have Amazon Prime. Nor do I. There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no joy as a roundabout way of getting to Account or Payment Options Since I was told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime. Here is what I see when I go to the Your Account Page: JAWS says there are 11 links. Your Account Amazon.com Your Account View Orders Choose Period: Open and recently shipped orders Continue Amazon Prime Manage Prime Membership Gift Cards Search Go Cart Your Account 1-Click Settings List & Registry Find a List or Registry Sign Out Help Home Legal Terms Several people said they could reach the Payment Options Link using IE11, JAWS 2010 and Windows 10. This is what my friend is using. But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon. For me, it made no difference. I got the same page with the information copied above. I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google search, just in case that made a difference. It doesn't.. I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot. Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need access to the account information page. Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my friend and I are having could be replicated. Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how widespread the problem is. Rebecca -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7, and I had JAWS 17 loaded. -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue Hi, Rebecca. I have the same experience as Dave. Note the obvious difference between "account options," which I couldn't find, and "payment options," which is on the "Your Account" page and which gives customers the ability to edit payment details. One other thought. Amazon recognizes my computer when I go to the website, even though it will ask me to enter my password in certain cases. Does Amazon recognize your friend's system? Or does she need to enter a username and password in order for the "Payment options" link to appear? Adrian -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:45 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue A friend needed to update her credit card information. She went to the Amazon website, to: Your Account And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page, or not that JAWS could find. The next step would have been to go to the link Account Options But that link was nowhere to be found on the page. She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone. She finally got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw, she, using a sc
Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue
Nothing to do with Prime -- I don't have it, either. Is your friend using the accessibility version of the Amazon site? I don't. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 04:48 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue I went back to Amazon this morning. My friend had gone all down the Your Account Page, line by line, with the Amazon Disability person, and there was no Account Options. She'd also had JAWS, as did I last night, search for the word Options. JAWS said it was not there. This morning, after having read several List responses, I had JAWS search for the word Payment, And again, that was not there. My friend does not have Amazon Prime. Nor do I. There was a link for managing one's Prime Account, but this brought me no joy as a roundabout way of getting to Account or Payment Options Since I was told immediately that I did not have Amazon Prime. Here is what I see when I go to the Your Account Page: JAWS says there are 11 links. Your Account Amazon.com Your Account View Orders Choose Period: Open and recently shipped orders Continue Amazon Prime Manage Prime Membership Gift Cards Search Go Cart Your Account 1-Click Settings List & Registry Find a List or Registry Sign Out Help Home Legal Terms Several people said they could reach the Payment Options Link using IE11, JAWS 2010 and Windows 10. This is what my friend is using. But to test, this morning, I loaded IE11 and went back to Amazon. For me, it made no difference. I got the same page with the information copied above. I've gone to Amazon from the link on my desktop, as well as from a Google search, just in case that made a difference. It doesn't.. I wonder why some can access this and others of us cannot. Since email addresses change, and the expiration numbers on credit cards change every couple of years, or shipping addresses may change, we need access to the account information page. Admittedly it's got to be frustrating if results can differ, even when the operating system, browser and screen reader version are the same, but this is why I put this out on the JAWS Users' List to see if the problem my friend and I are having could be replicated. Thanks to those who responded, but if anyone is having similar issues, I'd like to know, and Amazon needs to be alerted so that they know how widespread the problem is. Rebecca -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:09 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue I forgot to mention I used IE11 to confirm my experience. My system is Win7, and I had JAWS 17 loaded. -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2018 12:06 AM To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com' <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue Hi, Rebecca. I have the same experience as Dave. Note the obvious difference between "account options," which I couldn't find, and "payment options," which is on the "Your Account" page and which gives customers the ability to edit payment details. One other thought. Amazon recognizes my computer when I go to the website, even though it will ask me to enter my password in certain cases. Does Amazon recognize your friend's system? Or does she need to enter a username and password in order for the "Payment options" link to appear? Adrian -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Rebecca Lineberger Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 10:45 PM To: jaws user's list <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue A friend needed to update her credit card information. She went to the Amazon website, to: Your Account And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page, or not that JAWS could find. The next step would have been to go to the link Account Options But that link was nowhere to be found on the page. She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone. She finally got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw, she, using a screen reader, did not have access to that vital link. Perhaps we, as screen reader users, are taken to another site, one supposedly more accessible? when the screen reader is detected, because the woman assured her that the Account Options Link was there for her, as a sighted user. The woman filled out a form for their accessibility team, but if we are currently unable to access information that was available to us before, as it certainly was, then this is an issue that needs to be addressed by Freedom Scient
Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue
Rebecca, Strange. When I go to "Your Account" I find a heading titled "Payment Options" and under that a link "Edit or Add Payment Method" There I get a list of all the credit and debit cards I've used, and the ability to add or delete any of them. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Rebecca Lineberger" <drlineber...@embarqmail.com> To: "jaws user's list" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 19:45 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon Accessibility Issue A friend needed to update her credit card information. She went to the Amazon website, to: Your Account And there she was stopped because the link she needed was not on the page, or not that JAWS could find. The next step would have been to go to the link Account Options But that link was nowhere to be found on the page. She called the Amazon disability number and spoke with someone. She finally got the credit card information updated with their help, but as they saw, she, using a screen reader, did not have access to that vital link. Perhaps we, as screen reader users, are taken to another site, one supposedly more accessible? when the screen reader is detected, because the woman assured her that the Account Options Link was there for her, as a sighted user. The woman filled out a form for their accessibility team, but if we are currently unable to access information that was available to us before, as it certainly was, then this is an issue that needs to be addressed by Freedom Scientific working with Amazon. I'm posting this here to see if others too will be unable to get to the Account Options Link from the Your Account Page. If not, perhaps you too could call the problem to Amazon's attention. My friend and I are both using Windows 10, version 1709, with JAWS 2018 with the current March update. She's using Internet Explorer. I'm using the latest version of Chrome. Rebecca "The best criticism of the bad is the practice of the better" From: Center for Action and Contemplation For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] how to disable the ribbon in microsoft outlook 2016
No. Cannot be done. Best is to bite the bullet and learn how to use it. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Jay" <jcof...@samobile.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 19:51 Subject: [JAWS-Users] how to disable the ribbon in microsoft outlook 2016 Hi. Does anyone know how to disable the ribbon in Microsoft outlook 2016 so that it would be easier to navigate? Thanks. Jay. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message
Well, I must retract, and apologize to Sandy. It indeed does reply back to my intray. As expected, a copy appears in the text message list in my iPhone, but in addition, a copy is posted to my PC intray with the text itself as an attachment. Learned something new this morning. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 07:47 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Sandy, No, incorrect. Replies to a text message go to your iPhone. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 02:56 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message it should go to your email inbox -Original Message- From: Kimsan Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Man, if you would've only told me about the second method that would've saved me tons of fights with my x-wife lol. Anyways, when sending the text from your computer, when they reply from their phone, does it go to your inbox, or to your phone. I'm asking, cause when Mike posted the second method, I texted my daughter, she replied and it went to my phone. If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ or join us on twitter @TheRasslinCafe -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 9:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Hi Lenny, There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your computer with Jaws to a Verizon user. The first one is for text messages & I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family / friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one. #1: phonenum...@vtext.com This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending text messages. #2: phonenum...@vzwpix.com Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text message to a verizon cell phone? --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message
Sandy, No, incorrect. Replies to a text message go to your iPhone. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 02:56 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message it should go to your email inbox -Original Message- From: Kimsan Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Man, if you would've only told me about the second method that would've saved me tons of fights with my x-wife lol. Anyways, when sending the text from your computer, when they reply from their phone, does it go to your inbox, or to your phone. I'm asking, cause when Mike posted the second method, I texted my daughter, she replied and it went to my phone. If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ or join us on twitter @TheRasslinCafe -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 9:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Hi Lenny, There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your computer with Jaws to a Verizon user. The first one is for text messages & I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family / friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one. #1: phonenum...@vtext.com This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending text messages. #2: phonenum...@vzwpix.com Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text message to a verizon cell phone? --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message
Kimsan, Phone. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kimsan" <kimsans...@icloud.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 00:58 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Man, if you would've only told me about the second method that would've saved me tons of fights with my x-wife lol. Anyways, when sending the text from your computer, when they reply from their phone, does it go to your inbox, or to your phone. I'm asking, cause when Mike posted the second method, I texted my daughter, she replied and it went to my phone. If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ or join us on twitter @TheRasslinCafe -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 9:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Hi Lenny, There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your computer with Jaws to a Verizon user. The first one is for text messages & I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family / friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one. #1: phonenum...@vtext.com This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending text messages. #2: phonenum...@vzwpix.com Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text message to a verizon cell phone? --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message
Ed, Do you have Verizon as your Cell Carrier? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mr. Ed" <pink...@abe.midco.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 05:40 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Hi Mike, I tried using the second method twice and it bounce back to me. I put my cell phone number in and sent it twice. I click on the link you provided and just took out the phone number and put in my cell phone number so I know I type it correct as I did it twice but with no luck. Do you have any ideas as what I might be doing wrong? Mr. Ed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 11:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Hi Lenny, There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your computer with Jaws to a Verizon user. The first one is for text messages & I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family / friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one. #1: phonenum...@vtext.com This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending text messages. #2: phonenum...@vzwpix.com Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text message to a verizon cell phone? --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message
Mike, To my surprise, you are correct. There does seem to be a character limit of about 155 characters, even with no line breaks. So definitely use the vzwpix address format. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mike9...@gmx.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 21:23 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Hi Lenny, There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your computer with Jaws to a Verizon user. The first one is for text messages & I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family / friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one. #1: phonenum...@vtext.com This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending text messages. #2: phonenum...@vzwpix.com Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text message to a verizon cell phone? --- Please visit my web page It�s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message
As to #1, It cuts off when you insert a CR/LF (press the Enter key for a new line). Otherwise, they usually get sent full-length. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mike9...@gmx.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 21:23 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Hi Lenny, There are actually 2 domains you can use to send text messages from your computer with Jaws to a Verizon user. The first one is for text messages & I don't have any luck with this one because it has a limited number of characters, but even if I don't exceed the character count my family / friends don't get the whole text, so I use the second one. #1: phonenum...@vtext.com This second one is the domain for sending pictures / sound files, & doesn't appear to have a limit, so to speak, & the domain I always use for sending text messages. #2: phonenum...@vzwpix.com Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Lenny McHugh To: JFW List Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 8:31 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] send a text message Using latest jaws 2018 and win 7, is there anyway to create and send a text message to a verizon cell phone? --- Please visit my web page It�s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] too much feedback from JAWS
Cliff, Insert+A will cycle between punctuation levels. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Blackwell, Clifford" <cblackw...@cityofmadison.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 11:50 Subject: [JAWS-Users] too much feedback from JAWS I'm using Windows 7, JAWS 2018 latest build and now Office 2016. I've set JAWS verbosity to intermediate and punction to some, but JAWS is still reading parenthesis, brackets, dashes and lots of punction that it did not read before. Any suggestions of how I can make JAWS less chatty? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] pdf to excel conversion
If you're trying to get a table in a PDF document to import into Excel, it's never been an easy nor automatic process. My approach is to first convert the PDF file to text and do some cleanup before importing into MS Word. Then use the Word Text to Table conversion to do the formatting. Then copy that table and paste into a blank Excel worksheet. Lots of steps, but it gives you the opportunity to clean up the data and nesting levels. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Dwight Johnson" <dwight...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2018 08:06 Subject: [JAWS-Users] pdf to excel conversion Greetings: Is there a way to convert a pdf file to an excel file? Thanks, Dwight For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Monitoring a cell in excel -- and investing into Advanced Jaws Training
You can set up 10 different cell ranges to allow monitoring with a key combination. Look in JAWS help for Excel. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michael Babcock" <empoweringthebl...@icloud.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 06:00 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Monitoring a cell in excel -- and investing into Advanced Jaws Training Thanks, and I think possibly with some custom frames I might be able to set up a way to automate gathering the information so I don’t actually have to go to that cell. Keep being amazing everyone. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 30, 2018, at 3:10 AM, sandy <bshende...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I believe that's control + g, then L27 > > -Original Message- From: Justin Williams > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:04 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Monitoring a cell in excel -- and investing into > Advanced Jaws Training > > Ontrol g then l27 should work. > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Michael Babcock > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:32 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Monitoring a cell in excel -- and investing into > Advanced Jaws Training > > hi: > as some of you may know with the new job, we use an excel workbook. > I have to check a cell, l-27 is the location it falls at, and pressing the > down arrow to this location, though i’m sure that a jump to cell command > would work but I just thought of this today while writing this message, > can be rather cumbersome. > This being said, I’m wondering is it possible for Jaws to just read the > contents of that specific cell so I know how to assign the particular lead > I'm working with in salesforce? (It’s 4 letters) Thanks a lot for all of > your assistance, and I really need to learn some of the advanced Jaws > features, to maximize my experience at work. > Does anyone have any suggestions for advanced training material I can > invest in to that doesn’t cover the basics? > I’m sure that automation features could help me quickly navigate threw my > work :) thanks a lot. > Michael > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007
Yes. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 18:57 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 Hi, I use Microsoft Outlook 03. Maybe I can still help. Judy & Libby -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 2:42 AM To: 'JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM' Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2007 Is anyone out there still using Microsoft Outlook 2007? This message may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient please inform the sender that you have received the message in error before deleting it. Please do not disclose, copy or distribute information in this e-mail or take any action in relation to its contents. To do so is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your co-operation. NHSmail is the secure email and directory service available for all NHS staff in England and Scotland. NHSmail is approved for exchanging patient data and other sensitive information with NHSmail and other accredited email services. For more information and to find out how you can switch, https://portal.nhs.net/help/joiningnhsmail For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen
...have you simply tried to remove JAWS and install it clean? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 16:51 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen Hi Hareth, "...If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon screen."? If JAWS doesn't come up talking at the Logon screen, there is a problem with JAWS. I just did a test where I booted my computer a number of times. Every time I did, one of 2 things happened. A few times, the only thing I heard was "unavailable". A few times, I heard absolutely nothing, in which cases, I didn't know if I was at the logon screen yet. Each time, I hit Insert+T to hear the window title and each time it said "Title equals". A number of times, I hit Spacebar and it took me to the password field every time. I tried hitting Shift+F8 one time and it did the same thing. This is better than what I've been doing to get around the problem. Thanks for the tip. The FS Support people I've spoken to think that this is not a very widespread problem. I would like to encourage people to report here or to FS Support if their computer does not come up talking automatically as expected when they boot up. This will let FS know the extent of the problem. Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Hareth Sent: March 28, 2018 2:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log on screen Hi Reed, Give this a try, it always work for me, When you boot up your computer do nothing other then pressing the "space bar" it says password edit 99% of the times, when jaws doesn't see the password edit field. If that didn't work try hitting "shift plus F8" those 2 ways work if jaws is running. If not that means their is a problem with jaws starting on the logon screen. On 3/28/18, Reed <reed.poyn...@telus.net> wrote: > Hey! > > I Also am using The latest version of Windows 10 with the latest version of > JAWS 2018. This logon problem has been with me right from my first > installation of Windows 10. > I have discussed this problem with FS Support on more than 1 occasion. > > Again, I had a chat with JAWS support about the logon problem 2 days ago. > He told me that is my particular machine that is having the problem. He > said that it is not wide-spread. He told me to contact the Microsoft > Accessibility Help Desk. I haven't had time to contact them yet. > > The problem for me is really hit and miss. Most of the time I don't hear > anything when my machine boots up. Some times JAWS starts and tells me the > focus has been lost. Some times, the Windows sound is heard. Most of the > time it is not. > > When I am stuck, I will hit Insert+F4 to unload JAWS, press Escape to > cancel > it, hit Alt+Tab, hit Enter, go into Touch Cursor mode, find the Password > field, type my password, find the Sign-in button and press enter. Rather a > long process just to logon. > > Reed > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of > Tom Behler > Sent: March 28, 2018 7:11 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the > log on screen > > Mike and all: > > I also have this issue, and it has become more prominent again with the > latest build of Jaws 2018. > > The interesting thing is that I'm using Windows 7 here, so I don't think > the > problem is limited to Windows 10. > > Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of > Mike Mote > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 8:58 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Still having problems with JAWS speaking at the log > on > screen > > Hi folks! This issue is an oldy but a goody, and one that hasn't been > fixed > for me yet. > > I have two windows 10 computers, and many times JAWS will not say anything > at the log-on screen indicating that I can type the password. Sometimes I > can press Control plus Alt plus Delete, and here the prompt to type my > password. Sometimes, I have to load narrator to find where to put in the > password. The behavior is inconsistent at best. > > I wanted to post this to the list, and see if there is anything I can do to > make JAWS work better in this situation. Is there a setting that I need to > check, either in Windows
Re: [JAWS-Users] searching outlook calendar
Usually you need to use the JAWS cursor inside the find dialog until you get to the list of found entries. Then press the spacebar to highlight one of those entries in the list, and it can now be navigated with the arrow keys. Been like that since forever, and I'm surprised FS never came up with a resolution to that. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <christ...@sky.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 13:28 Subject: [JAWS-Users] searching outlook calendar Please help: I use JAWS 2018 and run Office 365 Outlook Calendar. I use quick key ctrl-e to invoke a query and press enter but JAWS does not read me the results even though I know the information is there when I cursor to the relevant date. Where am I going wrong? All help appreciated. Thanks C. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of AndrewDS Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 02:51 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VIPRE and Window DefenderREPLY Hi Holger, its been my experience that, when installing Vipre.. Vipre's process while installing will notify you to disable ANY other Anti-virus programs. I only use Vipre on all my machines. Best Regards Andrew For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook
Al, Since this happened recently, have you checked your system restore points to see if you got a Windows critical update in the past couple days? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Al Sorrentino" <alsorrent...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 11:11 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook Hi Adrian, I'm sorry, it's Outlook 2010, version 14.0.7194.5000. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 1:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook Al, I've been getting the number of emails and unread messages in the status bar (insert-pagedown) for as long as I've had Outlook. As far as receiving and sending, I find it varies. When I suspect there's been a long delay, sometimes closing and reopening Outlook seems to stimulate it into wakefulness again. As for messages reaching this list, once in a while my post arrives almost immediately, but usually it takes a while, even an hour or more. I believe the list's moderators have talked about this, and it's undoubtedly a function of ISP servers. Dave's response to your query adds a new wrinkle. I realize this doesn't directly address the problems you've only recently experienced, but maybe it puts them in context. By the way, is there really an Outlook 14? I'm using Windows 7, JAWS 2018/18/17 and Outlook 16. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Al Sorrentino Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 12:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook Hi Everyone, I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 Home Edition and Outlook 14. In the past few weeks, it seems that my Outlook program has become very sluggish in receiving my new e-mails. When I would open up my laptop in the morning and press F-9, to receive my new e-mail's and press Control & the home key all my new unread e-mail's would pop up instantly. In the past couple of weeks, when I do the procedure mentioned above, no new e-mails would pop up. It now takes a very long time and pressing many keys to try and receive my new e-mails. I also noticed, that if I send myself a test e-mail it takes a very long time for my test e-mail to appear on my list. In the past, as soon as I would press the F-9 key, I would hear the ping and the test e-mail would be on the top of my e-mails instantly. The only difference that I see with my outlook program is that now when I press the insert key and the page down key Jaws says, the number of e-mails I have, the number of unread e-mails and this is a new addition in the past couple of weeks, it says receive/send and of course at the end it says the usual 10%. Could this new addition of Send/Receive cause the problem in my Outlook becoming so sluggish? I do not know what I may have pressed to cause this problem. Can anyone give me a detailed fix to avoid this sluggish Outlook problem? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Al Sorrentino alsorrent...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook
My Outlook (and lots of other programs) started slowing down dramatically yesterday. I have JAWS 2018 and Windows 7 32-bit Pro on a Dell Latitude. I checked on system restore and saw that a Windows "critical update" was installed the day before. I restored back to before that point (and it took several hours) and now the system is clicking along beautifully. I've set my Windows update to *not* update automatically and to ask me in advance which to download and install. I'm hoping that I can somehow avoid getting that nasty "critical update" installed in the future. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Al Sorrentino" <alsorrent...@verizon.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 09:25 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Sluggish Outlook Hi Everyone, I have JAWS 13, Windows 7 Home Edition and Outlook 14. In the past few weeks, it seems that my Outlook program has become very sluggish in receiving my new e-mails. When I would open up my laptop in the morning and press F-9, to receive my new e-mail's and press Control & the home key all my new unread e-mail's would pop up instantly. In the past couple of weeks, when I do the procedure mentioned above, no new e-mails would pop up. It now takes a very long time and pressing many keys to try and receive my new e-mails. I also noticed, that if I send myself a test e-mail it takes a very long time for my test e-mail to appear on my list. In the past, as soon as I would press the F-9 key, I would hear the ping and the test e-mail would be on the top of my e-mails instantly. The only difference that I see with my outlook program is that now when I press the insert key and the page down key Jaws says, the number of e-mails I have, the number of unread e-mails and this is a new addition in the past couple of weeks, it says receive/send and of course at the end it says the usual 10%. Could this new addition of Send/Receive cause the problem in my Outlook becoming so sluggish? I do not know what I may have pressed to cause this problem. Can anyone give me a detailed fix to avoid this sluggish Outlook problem? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Al Sorrentino alsorrent...@verizon.net For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 11.30 and Favorites Inquiry
Entire. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 08:47 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 11.30 and Favorites Inquiry When you say reboot, are you referring to rebooting the entire laptop, or just closing and reopening IE? Thanks. -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 10:15 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 11.30 and Favorites Inquiry Jerry, More likely that the web site of those favorites has changed, or are temporarily overloaded with traffic. Have you tried them after a reboot? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 08:10 Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE 11.30 and Favorites Inquiry Morning all. Using JAWS 2018, Windows 10 and IE 11.30, I noticed that some of my favorites will not open when previously, they worked before. Could this be due to an update to the Windows OS? Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] IE 11.30 and Favorites Inquiry
Jerry, More likely that the web site of those favorites has changed, or are temporarily overloaded with traffic. Have you tried them after a reboot? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2018 08:10 Subject: [JAWS-Users] IE 11.30 and Favorites Inquiry Morning all. Using JAWS 2018, Windows 10 and IE 11.30, I noticed that some of my favorites will not open when previously, they worked before. Could this be due to an update to the Windows OS? Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings]
Yeah, really cool. Had no idea this was available. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:51 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings] Hi Joseph, I've been using Windows key + T, with both Windows 7 & 10, & it works great. Pinning program shortcuts to the Taskbar works much better & more reliably than assigning shortcut keystrokes to the same programs. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: joseph.lee22...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings] Hi, So my hypothesis was correct: it shows icons of running apps on screen. For situations like this, try using Windows+T (which also works on Windows 10, by the way). Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Mike B. Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings] Hi Cheez & Joseph, Running Windows 7 Pro on 2 Dell desktops & 2 Lenovo laptops with J16 thru J2018 latest, & Windows + Tab does not work to switch between open programs, at all! Actually invoking the Windows + Tab, keystroke doesn't do anything useful. On the other hand using, Alt + Tab. Works just fine to switch between programs. I'm only speaking about our personal computers, & noone elses. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: joseph.lee22...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings] Hi, This command is used in various layouts. As for why Windows+TAT won't work on Windows 7: AERO Flip is used in this case. As opposed to earlier releases, when you press this command, Windows Vista and 7 will present a list of icons, and you can press Windows Tab multiple times to cycle between programs. On Windows 8.x, this command is used to cycle through Windows Store apps, and on Windows 10, opens Task View (a combination of traditional taskbar and virtual desktop management features; a new feature joins this screen starting with Version 1803). Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of cheez Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2018 10:02 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar [Request For Future Postings] How about in the future, differentiate which keyboard layout is being used when sharing tips about keystrokes. It would help immensely. Vince - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 6:45 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar > Hi Justin & Rebecca, > > I just tried using the, Windows key + Tab, keystroke without success > on my Windows 7 Pro 64 bit computer running J16 thru J2018 latest . > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sennt from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In > the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > - Original Message - > From: Rebecca Lineberger > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 1:03 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] task bar > > > I prefer using windows key-tab. After you press that, you can left and > right arrow through all the open windows. Press enter on the one you > want to select it. If you want to close something as you're arrowing > through, press the application/menu key and arrow up to close and > press enter. > As I remember, this also works in Windows 7, but it's been awhile. Smile. > Rebecca > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Justin Williams > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2018 3:45 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: [JAWS-Users] task bar > > I've noticed, that from time to time, like right now, I can't alt tab > through the different application on the task bar, like if I have 8 > open, I can only see one or two. Is there an overlay or something, > why is this happening, and how do I fix it? > Justin > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this
Re: [JAWS-Users] Serious Problem Since Doing Latest Jaws 2018 Update
Tom, Unless you've tried it already, I'd complete uninstall JAWS 2018 to get back to an earlier version and determine that you've solved the problem. Then install an earlier version (you do keep all the files, don't you?) of JAWS 2018 and avoid the latest build. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Tom Behler" <tombeh...@gmail.com> To: "'Jaws users list'" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 14:14 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Serious Problem Since Doing Latest Jaws 2018 Update Hello, everyone. I have developed a serious problem since doing the latest 2018 Jaws update on this Windows 7 laptop. In fact, it actually is very difficult to type this e-mail. Since the update, my computer has basically slowed down to a crawl. It's hard to type anything, because there is a several-second delay between hitting a key, and getting a response from Jaws.I also have a great deal of Static in my computer speakers, which I never had before. Finally, I find that I often have to restore focus with Jaws when doing a particular task. I even went back to an earlier version of Jaws, and the problems persisted. I called Freedom Scientific Tech support, and we re-installed the latest Jaws update. The problem still persisted. I even did a Jaws repair with no luck. Needless to say, I'm not very happy!! Has anyone had these problems with the latest update, and if so, what did you do to address them? This computer is a Dell business-grade computer, and I've never experienced problems like this before from the many Jaws updates I have done over the years. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I'm going to call Freedom Scientific again in the morning if I have no luck between now and then. Dr. Tom Behler from Michigan For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc
Mike, Then since it's not muted, the volume must be set down to zero. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 19:19 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Hi Dave, Yes, it sure does. Both soundcards show, & it shows to use the default , which is what soundcard it's supposed to use. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Dave...Oregonian To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Mike, Check the audio menu, under audio devices -- does your device show up? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mike9...@gmx.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 17:32 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Hi David & All, I don't understand what the H*LL is going on! VLC versions 3.0.0 & 3.0.1 don't play crap, but when I install 2.2.8 everthing works just fine! Are y'all using the, Custom, or Recommended options for installing? When I install a newer version I install using the current settings, but still nothing plays. I make VLC my default player & I check the Select All checkbox, but still not a damn thing! Nothing is muted with either soundcard, so I hope y'all can throe a fix my way! Thanks mooy moocho. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc 3.0 is working perfectly for me here Mike so far. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Hi Hareth, Thank you for your reply, but I did all you suggested, but I just couldn't get VLC to play well with my MP3 & WAV files. I'm sure it's a bug of some nature because reinstalling didn't fix the problem. I'll install VLC 3.0.0 & see if that works as well as the 2.2.8 version. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Hareth To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Hi Mike, VLC 3.0actually working much better than the previous one. If the mp3 or any file association fail to work after installation, do this. select a file to play, press the applications key, Arrow down to "open with, >From that menu If you on windows7 I cannot remember the exact term, but its easy to tell its something like. "choose another app" or "choose another default app" or similar. from the next window you'd choose VLC, but make sure to check the check mark, that allows that app to always open that file type, then press the OK button. forgive my lame English. I could post the latest hotkeys list for VLC very soon if people needed it. Best On 3/20/18, Mike B. <mike9...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hi Justin, > > I had a similar problem with the latest vlc-3.0.1-win64 version. It > wouldn't play MP3 or WAV files, & it was set to play all files. I > uninstalled it, & went back to the vlc-2.2.8-win64 version. It's playing > just fine now. > > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sennt from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > 4 > - Original Message - > From: Justin Williams > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:19 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] vlc > > > I downloaded vlc, but the dvd and cd won't play. I've set vlc as default, > and when I try to plya the files, they won't play. It says audio tract or > video tract is not available. > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For a
Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC -- Dialogs are Very difficult
Overall, I find that the dialogs to allow modifications and setup are very inaccessible. So for very simple tasks it works. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 16:43 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC Keystrokes Possibly not an easier solution, but when I looked at the docs some time ago, it appeared that it was possible to do this from command line. Still seemed tough, though. Wouldn't require sighted help; that's the good thing. I'll look into this a little more myself. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Hareth Sent: March 20, 2018 7:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC Keystrokes Re map is a good solution, The problem is its a tough task. I've played with a little and gave up on it. I might give it another go sometime. I think It needs a sighted help to be done. On 3/21/18, JM Casey <crystallo...@ca.inter.net> wrote: > The voluem up/down hotkey works, but inconsistently for me. It's quite > strange. You can increase or decrase the volume through the audio > menu, but using the hotkeys would be more convenient. Unfortunately > results are unpredictable with it. > > I haven't really looked into this, but I believe it is possible to > completely remap all VLC keyboard commands. Thus, JAWS users could > adopt different volume control keystrokes. However, as I said, I've > never looked into this; frankly I've always found it much simpler to > use default keys; it also helps when trying to explain to someone how > to do something, of course. > > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] > On Behalf Of Hareth > Sent: March 20, 2018 7:02 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC Keystrokes > > Mike, My man, > that list is for general usage, and the VLC wiki provides more > complete and up to date lists. > and the important key for volume change doesn't work that's only with > jaws users unfortunately. > > > On 3/20/18, Mike B. <mike9...@gmx.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I believe someone asked for VLC keystrokes for Jaws users. Here >> y'all >> go: >> >> http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/VLC-Media-Player.html >> >> VLC Media Player Shortcuts >> >> table with 2 columns and 6 rows >> 1. Most used >> F >> Fullscreen >> Space >> Pause or play movie >> V >> Subtitles on/off (or s) >> B >> Audio track cycle >> Ctrl+Arrow Up/Ctrl+Arrow Down >> Volume >> table end >> >> table with 2 columns and 4 rows >> 2. Mouse actions >> Double click >> Fullscreen >> Scroll >> Volume or Position (see settings) >> Right click >> Local menu (play controls, audio/video) table end >> >> table with 2 columns and 20 rows >> 3. Movie Navigation >> Ctrl+D >> Open disc menu >> Ctrl+F >> Open folder (browse folder menu) >> Ctrl+R/Ctrl+S >> Advanced open file >> Ctrl+O >> Open single file(s) >> M >> Mute and unmute audio >> P >> Play movie (from the very beginning) >> S >> Stop movie >> Esc >> Exit full screen mode >> [+]/-/= >> Faster, slower, normal >> A >> Aspect ratio >> C >> Crop screen >> G/H >> Decrease subtitle delay / Increase subtitle delay J/K Decrease audio >> delay / Increase audio delay Z Change zoom mode >> Ctrl+1, Ctrl+2, Ctrl+3, Ctrl+4 >> Recent media (in Media - Recent media menu) T Show time >> Ctrl+T >> Goto time >> E >> Next Frame. Advance forward frame-by-frame table end >> >> table with 2 columns and 5 rows >> 4. Jump in playback >> Shift+Arrow Left/Arrow Right >> Very short jump (3 seconds) >> Alt+Arrow Left/Arrow Right >> Short jump (10 seconds) >> Ctrl+Arrow Left/Arrow Right >> Medium jump (1 minute) >> Ctrl+Alt+Arrow Left/Arrow Right >> Long jump >> table end >> >> table with 2 columns and 24 rows >> 5. Manage VLC, Playlists, and Special Commands >> Ctrl+H >> Hide / unhide controls >> Ctrl+P >> Preferences/ interface settings >> Ctrl+E >> Adjustments and audio/video effects >> Ctrl+B >> Edit bookmarks >> Ctrl+M >> Open messages >> Ctrl+N >> Open network >> Ctrl+C >> Open captue device >> Ctrl+L >> Open playlist >> Ctrl+Y >> Save playlist >> C
Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc
Mike, Check the audio menu, under audio devices -- does your device show up? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mike9...@gmx.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 17:32 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Hi David & All, I don't understand what the H*LL is going on! VLC versions 3.0.0 & 3.0.1 don't play crap, but when I install 2.2.8 everthing works just fine! Are y'all using the, Custom, or Recommended options for installing? When I install a newer version I install using the current settings, but still nothing plays. I make VLC my default player & I check the Select All checkbox, but still not a damn thing! Nothing is muted with either soundcard, so I hope y'all can throe a fix my way! Thanks mooy moocho. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc 3.0 is working perfectly for me here Mike so far. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 4:35 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Hi Hareth, Thank you for your reply, but I did all you suggested, but I just couldn't get VLC to play well with my MP3 & WAV files. I'm sure it's a bug of some nature because reinstalling didn't fix the problem. I'll install VLC 3.0.0 & see if that works as well as the 2.2.8 version. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Hareth To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vlc Hi Mike, VLC 3.0actually working much better than the previous one. If the mp3 or any file association fail to work after installation, do this. select a file to play, press the applications key, Arrow down to "open with, >From that menu If you on windows7 I cannot remember the exact term, but its easy to tell its something like. "choose another app" or "choose another default app" or similar. from the next window you'd choose VLC, but make sure to check the check mark, that allows that app to always open that file type, then press the OK button. forgive my lame English. I could post the latest hotkeys list for VLC very soon if people needed it. Best On 3/20/18, Mike B. <mike9...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hi Justin, > > I had a similar problem with the latest vlc-3.0.1-win64 version. It > wouldn't play MP3 or WAV files, & it was set to play all files. I > uninstalled it, & went back to the vlc-2.2.8-win64 version. It's playing > just fine now. > > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sennt from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > 4 > - Original Message - > From: Justin Williams > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:19 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] vlc > > > I downloaded vlc, but the dvd and cd won't play. I've set vlc as default, > and when I try to plya the files, they won't play. It says audio tract or > video tract is not available. > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] dvd cds
Sounds to me like the default program for playing Music CD and Movie DVD needs to be changed. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 11:45 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dvd cds As far as I know, Windows media Player does not play DVDs out of the box. It should play your CD though. Sorry, I don't use this program at all, so I can't really offer any concrete suggestions. You could open media player first, and then use its menus from within the program to choose to play the CD. I don't think this will work for the DVD, though. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Justin Williams Sent: March 18, 2018 11:34 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] dvd cds I'm attempting to get a dvd and a cd to plya on windows media player. It does not give me the option to do that in the default. It only seems to let me p;lay it on siber powe rlink, or whatever it is. How to I chage this? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] programs running in the background [I hope this is what you are looking for]
Is this specific to Windows 10? Does not appear to do anything in Windows 7. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 14:17 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] programs running in the background [I hope this is what you are looking for] To read anything in the Actions Center hit WIN key plus A. Tab to the list of notifications and press enter to see more details. Press WIN key plus I to get into the settings app. Down arrow to check for updates then press enter. Lino If jaws doesnt start use Narrator to see what is going on. It will at least let you figure out what is on the screen. Press ctrl + windows + Enter to start and stop Narrator. Use shift + spacebar to start and stop scan mode. when in scan mode Its like useing the Jaws cursor. You arrow up and down and use spacebar to activate items. Wwhen scan mode is off its like the PC cursor you tab to controls and press spacebar to activate them. randy barnett Vince - Original Message - From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 11:08 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] programs running in the background > Hi, all, a week or so ago someone asked about their computer running slow > and someone sent a post describing how to check to see if there were > unnecessary programs running in the background that could be slowing > things > down. Would that person please repost her information. I swear I thought I > kept it, but I must have deleted it. Thanks in advance. Judy & Libby > > > > > > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo
Adrian and others, Are you referring to the ducking feature of JAWS for Windows 8 and 10, or to the new feature of latest JAWS 2018 build, that recovers audio volume automatically? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:50 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo I've just had an experience with this new mute control that makes me join Fernando in criticizing the way it is set up now. While completing an online form, I had a broadcast muted in another window. The form required me to refresh the screen from time to time. Each time I pressed JAWS key+escape, the broadcast came back on. It was an annoying distraction. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 3:42 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo I respect your opinion, Maria, but unmuting as it was implemented seems me a bad idea. In addition to when starting JAWS (which is right), this is done every time you press JAWS+ESCAPE to refresh the screen or virtual buffer. Freedom Scientific says that this doesn't affect muting of the synthesizer with INSERT+SPACEBAR, S, but what if you only use Braille and, even when you work with no speech or have speech muted temporarily, you want to mute also other computer sounds? I think it would be better if this would be a setting in the Basic Settings dialog box and JAWS Startup Wizard instead of a mandatory action from witting any call to the RefreshScreen script. These imposed automatic adjustments makes me a bit angry, for example the fact that I can't lower the JAWS volume in Volume Mixer less than 20% because it is reset automatically to 100% when I try to continue down to 19, 18 or the value I want. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Maria Campbell Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:53 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unmute key combo To VFO, that unmute key combo may be the best thing since place markers. Thanks. -- Maria Campbell lucky1i...@gmail.com "Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!" --St. Francis For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- El software de antivirus Avast ha analizado este correo electrónico en busca de virus. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?
Don't thank me too soon. It looks pretty complicated. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:30 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? Thank you very much. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? Judy, I entered "how to auto start music in an email message" in my Yahoo search field and came up with the following link: https://www.lifewire.com/add-background-sound-outlook-1173829 Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:20 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? I have Outlook 2010. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Whitehead Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? hello; what email client are you asking about? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Judy Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? Yes, this e-mail was supposed to go out to a few friends, with well wishes for a happy St. Pat's day. I still appreciate the info and education on this list. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? Judy has received all sorts of criticism for this idea. It's a shame she can't ask a valid question and just get practical suggestions. True, I wouldn't want to receive musical email messages much of the time, either, but once in a great while, especially when it came with a friend's fond thoughts, I'd be delighted. - Original Message - > From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com> To: > <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:15 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? >>I have seen this done, and would like to send a St. Patrick's Day >>greeting that way. >>>>> I have the tune in an mp3 format. >>>>> Is there any way to do this? >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Judy > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened?
Judy, I entered "how to auto start music in an email message" in my Yahoo search field and came up with the following link: https://www.lifewire.com/add-background-sound-outlook-1173829 Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:20 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? I have Outlook 2010. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Whitehead Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 9:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? hello; what email client are you asking about? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of Judy Jones Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:21 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? Yes, this e-mail was supposed to go out to a few friends, with well wishes for a happy St. Pat's day. I still appreciate the info and education on this list. Judy -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 3:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? Judy has received all sorts of criticism for this idea. It's a shame she can't ask a valid question and just get practical suggestions. True, I wouldn't want to receive musical email messages much of the time, either, but once in a great while, especially when it came with a friend's fond thoughts, I'd be delighted. - Original Message - > From: "Judy Jones" <sonshine...@gmail.com> To: > <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:15 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] Having a song play when an e-mail is opened? >>I have seen this done, and would like to send a St. Patrick's Day >>greeting that way. >>>>> I have the tune in an mp3 format. >>>>> Is there any way to do this? >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> Judy > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program
Suggest you put super glue on your mouse. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 20:58 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program Another thing my girls would do is forget to un-mute the sound card, or turn the volume up after they were done with the PC. This happens a lot at my job. The sighties around there are pretty ignorant. Vince - Original Message - From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:01 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program >I always tell sighted people who want to use the computer that they should > turn off JAWS. It slows down the system and without making changes to web > settings I have no desire to make, makes it difficult for sighted people > to > interact normally with web browsers. However, I guess I understand in this > case, that you might not feel comfortable with not knowing exactly what > these sighted people are doing on your system. > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of cheez > Sent: March 12, 2018 1:24 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program > > Andy, I had the same problem with my sighted daughters with turning JAWS > off > when they got on the computer. My fix was simple and to the point. > I told them, if they turn off JAWS, then they can not use the computer. > it worked. They would only use it for schoolwork and nothing else. > > Vince > > - Original Message - > From: "andy " <wellerandy1...@gmail.com> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 11:10 AM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a program > > >> Hey all >> >> My girlfriend an di are both blind and her daughter likes to visit sites >> she >> is not suppose to be on. >> >> Is there a program out there that would be a tattle tell? >> >> A program that would allow for us to go back and retrace her steps? >> >> Something that she wouldn't be able to see because she does go in and >> turn >> off things. She turns off the voice when she doesn't want her mom to know >> what she is doing. >> >> Looking for something that also blind friendly. >> >> Any suggestions are appreciated. >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module
You've got to give us one heck of a lot more information than that. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Timothy Appleby" <timappl...@shaw.ca> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 20:42 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need advice on a missing module HI all, I have a missing module and need to find out if it's a critical file for my system to run or not. If anyone is able to help, it would be gratefully appreciated Thank you in advance; Timothy Appleby. P.S. I don't know how to copy a dialog and paste the contents of that dialog into this message so that listers can help me. If anyone is able to advise me on that, that would also be greatful. Thank you once again. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM and Comcast
JM, However Jerry indicated that this is intermittent, so his settings are correct some of the time. I don't see that being the issue. But calling Comcast to complain might result in something. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "JM Casey" <crystallo...@ca.inter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 09:33 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM and Comcast Hi. I think you should call your service provider. They can walk you through manually configuring your e-mail account. Server not found means you aren't actually connecting to the imap server, where your mail is stored. Again, they should help you with this. Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net Sent: March 13, 2018 8:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM and Comcast Morning folks. I am having a problem with WLM and comcast. Whenever I try to open or delete a message from my inbox, I get the following message: imap.comcast.net was not found. Does anyone else have the same problem, and if so, can you offer a solution? I am using WLM 16.4, Jaws 2018 and Windows 10 on a dell laptop. Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] WLM and Comcast
Sounds like your isp server is down. How long has this been happening? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 05:27 Subject: [JAWS-Users] WLM and Comcast Morning folks. I am having a problem with WLM and comcast. Whenever I try to open or delete a message from my inbox, I get the following message: imap.comcast.net was not found. Does anyone else have the same problem, and if so, can you offer a solution? I am using WLM 16.4, Jaws 2018 and Windows 10 on a dell laptop. Thanks. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Agree. Again well spoken.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: <joseph.lee22...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 19:10
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hi,
I see. I did say, "part of this may have to do with ...", which leaves open
the possibility that it might not be apps at all, but rather JAWS alone.
Given one evidence here, I'd say let's gather more evidence before we
conclude for sure that it is JAWS. If folks running JAWS 16 and 17 on other
computers can replicate this, then we can move forward and say that
bisecting the code might be the next step (from VFO's side, as core code in
JAWS is closed source).
Cheers,
Joseph
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 6:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Joseph,
I must respectfully disagree with your point. Earlier versions of JAWS on
the same machine do not exhibit the same symptoms. It is clear to me that it
is the new design of JAWS from version 17 onward that is the root cause of
the freezing, hesitation, and slowdown. To wit -- why would VFO put an auto
restart routine into JAWS so that it can quietly crash and restart, when
things bog down? Why not simply fix the disease, and not the symptom?'
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 17:38
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hi,
I think it is a bit early to blame assistive tech alone in this saga; part
of this may have to do with Windows and apps, as well as resource overload
and such.
Cheers,
Joseph
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
As Jaws users we shouldn't "have to put up with it". I also experience this
freezing, both when switching between programs and when doing things in
Outlook. If the fact that Jaws uses a lot of Ram, particularly when
switching programs, I would hope that Jaws programmers and developers are
addressing this, particularly since there is only one other competitor to
Jaws on the market.
We should not have to put up with issues that affect our productivity,
particularly if the issues are caused by the assistive technology we're
using to be productive!
John to
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john_just...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.
In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group. Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.
1. THE ISSUE AT HAND: apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM. Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another. The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT: It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority. I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3. According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM into smaller compartments which then handle this function. The entire
process scares the heck out of me. It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.
4. A WORKING SOLUTION: I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions. For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets. But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded. The down time has been measured and it is usuall
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Joseph,
I must respectfully disagree with your point. Earlier versions of JAWS on
the same machine do not exhibit the same symptoms. It is clear to me that it
is the new design of JAWS from version 17 onward that is the root cause of
the freezing, hesitation, and slowdown. To wit -- why would VFO put an auto
restart routine into JAWS so that it can quietly crash and restart, when
things bog down? Why not simply fix the disease, and not the symptom?'
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 17:38
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hi,
I think it is a bit early to blame assistive tech alone in this saga; part
of this may have to do with Windows and apps, as well as resource overload
and such.
Cheers,
Joseph
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 11:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
As Jaws users we shouldn't "have to put up with it". I also experience this
freezing, both when switching between programs and when doing things in
Outlook. If the fact that Jaws uses a lot of Ram, particularly when
switching programs, I would hope that Jaws programmers and developers are
addressing this, particularly since there is only one other competitor to
Jaws on the market.
We should not have to put up with issues that affect our productivity,
particularly if the issues are caused by the assistive technology we're
using to be productive!
John to
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john_just...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.
In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group. Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.
1. THE ISSUE AT HAND: apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM. Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another. The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT: It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority. I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3. According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM into smaller compartments which then handle this function. The entire
process scares the heck out of me. It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.
4. A WORKING SOLUTION: I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions. For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets. But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded. The down time has been measured and it is usually approximately32
seconds.
5. CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS: Finally, we have established
hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to restart. Occasionally,
though rarely, Jaws wil not restart after one of these incidents. We use
three key combinations which are dedicated to reactivating Jaws.
The entire thing is frustrating to say the least, Mike. But it's something
we just put up with since jaws performs so well in most other respects.
JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Good morning all! I'm trying to help with one of our employees here at work
on an issue where JAWS freezes unexpectedly when switching from one window
to another using the Alt Tab key. The issue is difficult to resolve because
it doesn't happen every t
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Joseph, You wrote: "As for JAWS becoming less responsive as time goes on: there might be numerous contributing factors. One possible factor is possible memory leak or lax resource accountability in one or more threads. If JAWS keeps eating something but fails to release things it no longer needs, it may lead to slower responsiveness. One way to look at it is memory usage for jfw.exe - if you use JAWS for hours and it appears memory usage by the screen reader process keeps increasing, chances are that there's a more serious resource management problem in screen reader code, especially in one or more modules responsible for keeping track of various info such as accessibility state, display handling and what not. " A very elegant description of what I have been suspecting for a long time, and what I simply called a memory leak. Appreciate your detailed description. All we can hope is that VFO pays attention to these concerns and adjusts their code appropriately. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 14:21 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs Hi, Thread priority has to do with letting processors run a specific thread for a while despite requests from other threads to run. A good analogy is priority boarding at airports where those booked the first class cabin are boarded before others. In operating system design and architecture, a process may contain multiple threads. Here, a process refers to a container of program code, data needed by a program, resources being used, as well as other state information an operating system uses to keep track of things such as if the process is ready to run, ready to die, and other information. One of the information tracked by operating systems (more specifically, operating system kernels) is how many threads are inside a given process and what priority levels they are assigned to, and each process requires at least one thread to run. On Windows (more specifically, Windows NT), a process may contain more than one thread, especially if they are GUI applications such as JAWS (jfw.exe), with each thread responsible for running either the main code, hold a window ready for user interaction, spawn by other threads and what not. As for increasing thread priority and resulting responsiveness, I doubt that would solve the overall problem. Although it'll let Windows allocate more running time to threads inside JAWS process, it is a partial solution. In order for a screen reader to stay responsive, it must make sure it gets whatever it needs from apps on time, otherwise it'll get stuck trying to obtain useful data for you. This is more so if there are many threads competing for processor resources (because processor time is a precious resource when looking inside silicon), hence possibly contributing to slower responsiveness, not the other way around as an idealist would say. And no, it isn't just JAWS that gets stuck - the program you are using may appear to slow down, as well as other actors such as accessibility API bridge libraries, other tasks and what not, hence my thinking that increasing thread priority for JAWS isn't a good solution that'll work in the long term. As for JAWS becoming less responsive as time goes on: there might be numerous contributing factors. One possible factor is possible memory leak or lax resource accountability in one or more threads. If JAWS keeps eating something but fails to release things it no longer needs, it may lead to slower responsiveness. One way to look at it is memory usage for jfw.exe - if you use JAWS for hours and it appears memory usage by the screen reader process keeps increasing, chances are that there's a more serious resource management problem in screen reader code, especially in one or more modules responsible for keeping track of various info such as accessibility state, display handling and what not. Also, when it comes to accessibility API handling, not all API's offer ways to make screen readers (or clients) stay responsive - one good example is UIA and resource starvation problem observed not only by JAWS users on Windows 10, but also by users of another screen reader, usually caused by one thread trying to handle a flood of accessibility events or the API bridge (in this case, UIAutomationCore.dll) getting stuck somehow. So what is a solution to this problem? We don't know yet, as it may involve collaborative effort between Microsoft, VFO, app vendors and users. If anyone is curious about how UIA internally works or have questions about UIA and resource starvation problem, or want more explanation regarding accessibility API's (complete with source code), write to me offlist. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-us
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Steve,
Might be, but as you say, 4 G of RAM is pretty massive. I agree that coding
is more likely the issue, since the real slowdown problems happened after
JAWS 16, when they changed "under the hood" operation. I still think JAWS is
subject to memory crowding either because of itself, or because it is using
memory areas that it did not use in the past. Most of my complaint have been
due to JAWS getting less responsive the longer it runs. After a clean
restart, it seems to get more responsive again, until it starts to slow
later.
I'll let folks know if I am more satisfied with jfw.exe set to high
priority.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 12:00
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Dave,
One of your issues might be 32-bit OS. That limits you as to your memory
usage which I think tops out at only 4Gigs in a 32-bit system.
- Original Message -
From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
> John,
>
> Interesting...One thing I can do (and have just done) is to increase the
> priority of the JFW process. I'm going to try running my system this way
> for
> a while to see if anything improves.
>
> My system is a Dell laptop with Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, dual core processor.
> I'm running the latest build of JAWS 2018.
>
> What I did was to launch the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl+Shift+Escape) and
> Ctrl+Tab to the processes list. I arrowed down to jfw.exe and opened the
> context menu. From there I selected the "set priority" menu and
> right-arrow
> to open. JFW was set to run as normal, and I've changed it to high, waited
> a
> bit, and then selected the set priority button after the cautionary
> warning.
> Close Windows Task Manager with Escape.
>
> Now let's see if JAWS behaves better with this setting. If it does, I'd
> sure
> like to know how to have it permanently set to high priority, as I suspect
> it will default to normal after a restart.
>
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: <john_just...@verizon.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 07:16
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
>
>
> Hello Mike,
> John Justice, here.
> I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
> you describe.
>
> In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention
> of
> our upper level Access group. Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
> but it might give you food for thought.
>
> 1. THE ISSUE AT HAND: apparently, what we are experiencing is the
> assignment of RAM. Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a
> considerable
> amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
> another. The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM to
> perform the function.
> 2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT: It is possible to assign certain programs
> on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
> beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs
> can
> be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily.
> There
> are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
> permanent top priority. I imagine that the Windows operating system might
> have that kind of assignment.
> 3. According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division
> of
> RAM into smaller compartments which then handle this function. The
> entire
> process scares the heck out of me. It isn't something I'd want to
> attempt.
> There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than
> I
> have.
> 4. A WORKING SOLUTION: I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
> One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
> handles primary functions. For example, I use the secondary unit to load
> and display Excel spreadsheets. But even with that arrangement, certain
> pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
> loaded. The down time has been measured and it is usually
> approximately32
> seconds.
> 5. CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS: Finally, we have established
> hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to restart. Occasionally,
> though rarely, Jaws wil not re
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
John,
Interesting...One thing I can do (and have just done) is to increase the
priority of the JFW process. I'm going to try running my system this way for
a while to see if anything improves.
My system is a Dell laptop with Windows 7 Pro 32-bit, dual core processor.
I'm running the latest build of JAWS 2018.
What I did was to launch the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl+Shift+Escape) and
Ctrl+Tab to the processes list. I arrowed down to jfw.exe and opened the
context menu. From there I selected the "set priority" menu and right-arrow
to open. JFW was set to run as normal, and I've changed it to high, waited a
bit, and then selected the set priority button after the cautionary warning.
Close Windows Task Manager with Escape.
Now let's see if JAWS behaves better with this setting. If it does, I'd sure
like to know how to have it permanently set to high priority, as I suspect
it will default to normal after a restart.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
- Original Message -
From: <john_just...@verizon.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 07:16
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.
In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group. Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.
1. THE ISSUE AT HAND: apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM. Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another. The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT: It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority. I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3. According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM into smaller compartments which then handle this function. The entire
process scares the heck out of me. It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.
4. A WORKING SOLUTION: I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions. For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets. But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded. The down time has been measured and it is usually approximately32
seconds.
5. CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS: Finally, we have established
hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to restart. Occasionally,
though rarely, Jaws wil not restart after one of these incidents. We use
three key combinations which are dedicated to reactivating Jaws.
The entire thing is frustrating to say the least, Mike. But it's something
we just put up with since jaws performs so well in most other respects.
JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
Good morning all! I'm trying to help with one of our employees here at work
on an issue where JAWS freezes unexpectedly when switching from one window
to another using the Alt Tab key. The issue is difficult to resolve because
it doesn't happen every time he switches windows. It does happen two to
three times a day on average, and is hindering his efforts to perform his
job. I have offered several solutions, but nothing has worked yet. When
JAWS freezes, he has to wait some 30 seconds before speech comes back.
I wanted to reach out to the list to see if any of you had any ideas as to
how I could minimize this behavior. I would appreciate any feedback.
Thanks very much!
Mike Mote
Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources
IFB Solutions
Our Vision is Working - see more at <http://www.ifbsolutions.org/>
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Email <mailto:mm...@ifbsolutions.org> mm...@ifbsolutions.org
Work Phone (336) 245-5650
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Winston-Salem, NC 27106
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs
This is because JAWS will now (since version 17) automatically shut down when there is a "not responding" issue with a particular program. I see this most often when switching into or out of Adobe Acrobat. JAWS does not seem to play well with that program on my system, and I often have to wait that 20 or 30 seconds for JAWS to start up again. Does your employee hear the "JAWS Home Edition" or "JAWS Professional Edition" after the long delay -- then it is indeed JAWS restarting after such a shutdown. In the Shared Settings folder there is a default.jcf file that you can edit with notepad. On my system it is located: C:\ProgramData\Freedom Scientific\JAWS\2018\Settings\enu\Default.JCF Near the end of this file is a section titled [AutoRestart] where you can disable this "feature" or extend the time before JAWS shuts down and restarts. A following section also lets you decide how long to delay for specific applications. See if disabling or changing the delay times helps. Be sure only to edit this file in a simple editor like Notepad to avoid inserting other ASCII characters. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike Mote" <miketmot...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2018 08:17 Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs Good morning all! I'm trying to help with one of our employees here at work on an issue where JAWS freezes unexpectedly when switching from one window to another using the Alt Tab key. The issue is difficult to resolve because it doesn't happen every time he switches windows. It does happen two to three times a day on average, and is hindering his efforts to perform his job. I have offered several solutions, but nothing has worked yet. When JAWS freezes, he has to wait some 30 seconds before speech comes back. I wanted to reach out to the list to see if any of you had any ideas as to how I could minimize this behavior. I would appreciate any feedback. Thanks very much! Mike Mote Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources IFB Solutions Our Vision is Working - see more at <http://www.ifbsolutions.org/> www.ifbsolutions.org Email <mailto:mm...@ifbsolutions.org> mm...@ifbsolutions.org Work Phone (336) 245-5650 Mobile Phone (336) 793-6006 Shipping: 7730 North Point Dr Winston-Salem, NC 27106 *Large font facilitates reading for people with low vision For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS - All About Context
Innamuddin, The English word "putting" can be both a description of placing something on something else, or tapping a golf ball into a hole. They are pronounced differently. I have heard JAWS pronounce it both ways, depending on the context. I am putting my shoes on. In golf, she is good at putting. So it appears that when the word is at the end of a sentence, it is pronounced as in golf. I think the mispronunciation in the subject line is because the word is followed by a fully-capitalized word, and it is being treated as preceding a new phrase. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Inam Uddin" <inamuddi...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2018 13:50 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Dear friend, let me tell you a new thing. When I saw this email for the first time, my JAWS has pronounced the word Putting as Patting. I have checked with NVDA and with narrator and with them the pronounciation was right but with JAWS the pronounciation was wrong. Please help me in this regard to fix it! With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID: Charlsdarwin1 Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement. At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree. You can contact me via gmail: inamuddi...@gmail.com inamuddin.rona...@gmail.com outlook: inam...@outlook.com yahoo: inamuddin2...@yahoo.ca Add my Skype ID: charlsdarwin1 Meet me on facebook: www.facebook.com/inamuddin786 Follow me on my twitter ID: www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1 Call me on my cell numbers: +92-300-2227598 +92-334-3348409 From: David Ferrin Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 4:23 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode If you are not a long time user then you might just as well require more verbiage from JAWS to let you know what is going on. I myself find the extra information useful especially in a new application, but for one that has been around for a long time I will cut back on the verbosity. It all depends on what makes the user comfortable. Like Rick said there is just too much to remember it all, so don't feel bad when something slips right out of your memory. -Original Message- From: sandy Sent: Tuesday, March 6, 2018 5:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode I'm not an experienced jaws user, and still confused. how does jaws know what I want to hear and not hear? -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 3:52 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Hi Sandy, Not necessarily, but for someone that has been using Jaws for a long time, knows what's going to be reported by Jaws, & just doesn't want to hear all the excess speaking that Jaws will report while they're doing whatever computer functions they're performing throughout the day. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: sandy To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode then I take it that the advanced setting is for people who can actually see the computer monitor screen -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Hi Sandy, Jaws has 3 modes of operation. Beginner, Intermediate, & Advanced. The higher the level you select to run, the less Jaws will speak as you use the program, & this means all across the board. So, if you're running Beginner you will hear much more of Jaws as you do your work, email, web serfing, etc... Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: sandy To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode what is jaws advance users mode please? -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Hi Matthew, Open the Settings Center with, Insert / Jaws key + 6, then press, Control, shift, + D. Arrow down to, Speech Verboscity, right arrow to open. Arrow down 1 time to, Verboscity Level ... 1 of 3, now press the spacebar to toggle through youroptions, & stopping when you hear, Advanced. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save & close. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from m
Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode
Sandy, Beginner mode tells you a lot of information. Advanced mode tells you less information, but still enough to let you know where you are. As he said, try setting to advanced and do your usual stuff, then set to beginner and do the same. Compare your results. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 14:09 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode I'm not an experienced jaws user, and still confused. how does jaws know what I want to hear and not hear? -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 3:52 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Hi Sandy, Not necessarily, but for someone that has been using Jaws for a long time, knows what's going to be reported by Jaws, & just doesn't want to hear all the excess speaking that Jaws will report while they're doing whatever computer functions they're performing throughout the day. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: sandy To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode then I take it that the advanced setting is for people who can actually see the computer monitor screen -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 6:58 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Hi Sandy, Jaws has 3 modes of operation. Beginner, Intermediate, & Advanced. The higher the level you select to run, the less Jaws will speak as you use the program, & this means all across the board. So, if you're running Beginner you will hear much more of Jaws as you do your work, email, web serfing, etc... Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: sandy To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode what is jaws advance users mode please? -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 8:38 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Hi Matthew, Open the Settings Center with, Insert / Jaws key + 6, then press, Control, shift, + D. Arrow down to, Speech Verboscity, right arrow to open. Arrow down 1 time to, Verboscity Level ... 1 of 3, now press the spacebar to toggle through youroptions, & stopping when you hear, Advanced. Tab to, Okay, press enter to save & close. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sennt from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree - Original Message - From: Matthew Chao To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 4:41 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Putting JAWS in Advanced User Mode Hi, Folks. How do I put JAWS into Advanced User Mode? It says to go to Help to do this, but I couldn't find the place to make this happen. Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Restarting Automatic JAWS Dump File Reports
Mike, Thanks, I never would have found it without your help. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Mike B." <mike9...@gmx.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 13:39 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Restarting Automatic JAWS Dump File Reports Hi Dave, Try the following: 1. Open the Settings Center with the keystroke, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row. Or Settings Center Default all applications by pressing, Control, Shift, + D, after pressing the Jaws Key + 6, keystroke. This setting can be modified in an individual application, or in all applications. 2. Now arrow down to, Miscellaneous Closed, it's #21 of 22, & right arrow to open. 3. Arrow down to, Error Reporting, it's #13 of 13. Use the spacebar to toggle through the 3 settings. The 3 settings are 1. Ask me if I want to send error reports to Freedom Scientific each time. This is the default. 2. Always send error reports to Freedom Scientific. 3. Never send error reports to Freedom Scientific. 4. If you make a change tab to, Okay, press enter to save your change & close. - Original Message - From: Dave...Oregonian To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 9:22 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Restarting Automatic JAWS Dump File Reports I see that my dump files (using Insert+Windows+F4) are being stored in a hold folder, but I see no evidence that they are being shared with VFO (formerly Freedom Scientific). I'd like to have a dump file sent to VFO each time I need to use the Insert+Windows+F4 key combination. How do I turn this feature on? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Restarting Automatic JAWS Dump File Reports
I see that my dump files (using Insert+Windows+F4) are being stored in a hold folder, but I see no evidence that they are being shared with VFO (formerly Freedom Scientific). I'd like to have a dump file sent to VFO each time I need to use the Insert+Windows+F4 key combination. How do I turn this feature on? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] CNN back on ResearchIt
Most likely no one fixed anything. If CNN's underlying web page format had changed significantly, ResearchIt could easily stop working. For example, whenever Google decides to put up a special web page to celebrate some special anniversary, they often make things a mess for screen readers. Since those Google events only last one day, we are back to normal in a short while. Your experience with CNN in such a short time suggests that CNN had simply changed their web page format (or had their own internal web problems) and later settled back to a format that ResearchIt could use. But nice, nonetheless. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Arianna Calesso" <acalesso...@centurylink.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 06:13 Subject: [JAWS-Users] CNN back on ResearchIt I'm glad to report that CNN is now functioning on ResearchIt. thanks to whoever fixed the problem. Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields
Hmmm. Why not use the JAWS dictionary manager and set the star character to speak nothing? Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 16:43 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields i don't see a big deal here. the stars are still there if you hear the keys you press or not. i only want the keys i press to be spoken like window eyes does so i don't have to keep typeing my passwords in note pad and copying and pasteing them into the password edit box every time. the stars are not being replaced with the password i type in. it just speaks the keys as i press them. nothing else. i can not concentrate on the keys i press while it is saying the stars and not the keys i press. if you are working, turn the keys off. if not turn them on in settings. -Original Message- From: Eric Damery Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 1:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields While it may well be possible that we could add such an option that would allow the true password being typed, it is also very likely that just adding this option into our software, would cause security minded organizations such as IRS, SSA, and many other 3 letter organizations, to block those versions from being deployed. It is part of the reason we have a Non-Tandem build of our software posted also on the web. Sorry, but this ability to echo Passwords is risky from security standpoint and we will not be adding that one. Regards, Eric Eric Damery VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Rick Justice Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 4:20 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] the stars in password fields For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] suspending this list
Why not just do what it says at the bottom of your message? http://www.jaws-users.com/help Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Crowell" <dw...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 18:29 Subject: [JAWS-Users] suspending this list Hi I am going to be going away for awhile and won't even have access to my computer. Can anyone give me directions how to suspend getting posts to this list. I will definitely return to the list when I return but I need this break. Dave For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 and Windows10
If you can still get the Microsoft "Natural" keyboard, it is a full-sized ergonometric keyboard. The left and right hands are slightly skewed inward and outward for less RMI, so it is split in the middle. Easy to get used to the feel. I've been using this type of keyboard on all my computers for 20 years. Hopefully they are still available. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Shai" <shai...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 08:59 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mechanical USB keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 and Windows10 Hello, I am looking for a mechanical USB desktop keyboard that works well with JAWS2018 and Windows10. Such a keyboard is useful for an environment where one types for prolonged periods. Would anyone happen to have any suggestions? Thank you in advance for any responses For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting a 2010 Excel worksheet
Greg, Nope. 2007 is exactly the same. You still need to tab around a lot and if you invoke a second sort column using the Add sort button, you need to use the JAWS cursor to find that combo box to get things moving on that column. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Greg Washington" <gregw...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 11:32 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting a 2010 Excel worksheet Dave, Thanks for responding. Also I want to apologize to Annette for not acknowledging her as the source of the instructions I copied into my original email. They were (are) helpful. Perhaps its my addled memory but I thought there was another easier way to sort in Excel. Perhaps I'm thinking about Excel 2007. Best, Greg -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David G. Carlson Via iPhone Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Sorting a 2010 Excel worksheet About as good as you will get. Trial and error required. Dave Sent from my iPhone On Feb 7, 2018, at 6:36 AM, Greg Washington <gregw...@comcast.net> wrote: I need to sort a Excel 2010 worksheet by two columns. I am using latest Jaws 2018 on a Windows 10 computer. I found the following instructions on line but as they say Jaws doesn't work well with them. Does anyone have any suggestsions on how to improve Jaws functionality in sorting Excel worksheets? Any help would be appreciated. Instructions You need to select all of your data, including the column headings. Use your applications key to bring up the context menu. Select sort. >From the Sort menu, select custom. You are now in a dialog box which JAWS does not read well. Use the tab key to move around in it. The most important things you need to find are as follows: --The checkbox that indicates whether or not the top row is a headings row for the columns of data, or if it is actual data. If you have column headings, make sure it is checked. --Tab until you get to a combo box, or maybe it is a list box, for which column you want to use for sorting. JAWS can be very uncooperative with reading the contents. --There are 2 more combo/list boxes that allow you to set information about sorting on this column I.E. A-Z, Z-A, ascending, descending, etc. Depending on what you want your sort to look like, you may not need to deal with this. Again, JAWS is not always cooperative with reading this information. --There should be another set of 3 combo/list boxes that will allow you to select the second column you want to use for your sort, as well as its criteria. I can never remember which column will need to be in the first set of boxes, verses which one goes in the second set. You will have to play around with it. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
I guess you need to use two hands in your case, with only a single Windows key. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <rosecomb...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2018 08:37 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing OK, now tell me how I am to reach all these keys at once on a keyboard with one left Windows key? I have not had the freezing problem but I don't have large hands, using standard desktop layout. I will probably never need it, I hope but for heaven sakes how does one manage such reaches. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Eric Damery Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 9:32 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hello list, The dump command (JAWSKey+WindowsKey+F4) will restart JAWS automatically while it creates a dump file to show what was happening at the time of the loss of speech. It would be potentially very helpful to contact the Support department and offer the Dump File with an explanation of what you were doing when it the loss of speech occurred and how often you are seeing this. These issues are difficult to track down as they happen randomly and most certainly have something to do with JAWS interacting with UIA from Windows. We are making progress on this every day and appreciate your continued feedback and support in tracking these down. Regards, Eric Eric Damery VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management 11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F 727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 11:21 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I think this is the "JAWS dump" keystroke referred to in the original post. I did not think this keystroke automatically restarted JAWS? I'd better give it a try. Usually I just kill JAWS with task manager, or nowadays, process explorer, since task manager got ridiculously slow and basically unusable lately. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: January 29, 2018 10:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I'm not sure it's been mentioned in this thread, but when I experience freezing for a few seconds, I press JAWS key+Windows key+F4. This command almost always restarts JAWS within another few seconds. I believe it helps to first alt-ab out of the application where the freeze occurred. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of George Marshall Sent: Monday, January 29, 2018 10:41 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hi Dave: I have only JAWS 17 and JAWS 2018 on my computer at this time, I would have to go out and download 16, but appreciate your Input. Thanks, George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David G. Carlson Via iPhone Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 11:20 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing George, If you have jaws 16 on your machine, run jaws 16 for a while and see if the problem goes away. I m betting on it will. Dave Sent from my iPhone On Jan 28, 2018, at 8:10 AM, George Marshall <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi: I am using Windows 7, jaws 2018 and eight gig of RAM. I have the freezing problem it will freeze while reading email or in Microsoft word version 10 and I've seen it do it on the Internet. Have no idea what the solution is. Thanks George R. Marshall geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2018 7:00 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I must report that I am not experiencing this freezing problem at all here. In fact 2018 is quite stable on the systems I have it installed and use every day as a matter of fact. Naturally all systems do not act the same for various reasons. -Original Message- From: John Vernaleken` Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:16 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I guess it comes down to the question - Is it Windows 10 or JAWS? I think JAWS. John -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of joediner...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Us
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
Yes -- JAWS. If I roll back to JAWS 16 I never have the problem. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "John Vernaleken`" <jfv...@optonline.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 16:16 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I guess it comes down to the question - Is it Windows 10 or JAWS? I think JAWS. John -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of joediner...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I am running JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 Pro machine and experiencing the same thing regarding freezing. In fact it happened to me the other day when I was taking a Freedom Scientific certification exam Thinking there is a little bit of irony there. If you leave the machine alone speech usually returns in 3 or 4 minutes. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Vernaleken` Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 5:01 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing I have JAWS 2018 and run Windows 10 and it seems to be freezing up more often than a few weeks ago. John -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of George Martinez Sr Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is freezing? George A. Martinez, CPA O-602.368.8854 F-206.666.2589 C-602.368.5424 "I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to Andy Rooney -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hello: This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it would just stop working. I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts? If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
...any version since 17. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "George Martinez Sr" <ga.marti...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 13:26 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Just got home & saw this meeting but I am wondering WHICH version of JAWS is freezing? George A. Martinez, CPA O-602.368.8854 F-206.666.2589 C-602.368.5424 "I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to Andy Rooney -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hello: This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it would just stop working. I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts? If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing
...don't count on it. It's been happening on my Windows 32-bit system now ever since JAWS 17 rolled out. Very very very very annoying. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "andy t" <andy.tidw...@windstream.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:12 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hello here lately I am having the same behavior and I just leave it alone for a couple of minutes and jaws comes back up and acts normally until it does it again hopefully VFO will fix this soon. -Original Message- From: Kimsan Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 2:05 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and freezing Hello: This week, I'm noticing jaws just randomly freezes on me. I could be reading an email, surfing the web, writing in word, yelling at the dog, and poof it would just stop working. I would do the jaws dump command and then try to bring it back with the hotkey but it doesn't come back up, unless I reboot. Thoughts? If you are a wrestling fan, I invite you to visit my wrestling site for blogs and podcasts by navigating to: http://www.therasslincafe.com/ Also, you may like our page on facebook at https://www.facebook.com/TheRasslinCafe/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Jesus dyed for us, why can't we live for him? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Hard Drive Replacement
Suggest you call FS tomorrow to get the authorization code. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Fuzzmom" <fuzz...@twc.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 16:44 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hard Drive Replacement Hi. I have to replace my hard drive. And I've managed to lose my Jaws auth code. I do have the serial number. Do I just call FS for a new code? Or since I backed up jaws to a thumbdrive will the auth code still be there and I can just reinstall? Never had to replace a hard drive before. Thanks. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Further Jaws Version Confusion
2018.10 appears to be the latest regular release. 2018.54 is likely the version you can get earlier than the next release, when you use the special access code. Too much detail for me to go into. If you sit tight for another few weeks, the next release of JAWS 2018 will probably be a higher number than 2018.54 and you'll be caught up to all us mere mortals. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <tedlarson1...@charter.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2018 19:46 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Further Jaws Version Confusion Dear List: It was mentioned on the list in one of the many "jaws version confusion" posts, that the latest jaws version is 2018.1712.54 When I did the control-insert-v from the jaws screen, it said my jaws was already at the latest update. Yet, my version is a slightly different number. It is 2018.1712.10.400 Would you please explain the difference. Thanks. Regards: Ted Larson For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
They are just fixing bugs they created, and creating other new bugs. So if the current version is not working to your liking, you update to the next one, and have something else to complain about. Makes no sense, but that's the world of software. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "sandy" <bshende...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 06:29 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion thank you, but maybe I'm just old fashioned, but do these improvements make that much of a difference, and I mean that it leads to several versions of the same jaws number? -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:36 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion Each year, VFO releases a new version of JAWS with significant improvements, or to use its word, enhancements. However, between user reports of problems and ever-evolving technology, VFO must keep updating. These updates are assigned numbers that begin with the current version, right now 2018. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of sandy Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion please folks, please explain to someone who isn't as tech savy as the majority of you, why there needs to be more than 1 jaws version per jaws number? -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion Gary, You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that." No. JAWS 2018, as others have said, is a completely different version from JAWS 18. You need to install JAWS 2018 from your DVD and then check for updates before you will be "up to date". Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 19:34 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can do this with the 2018 disc or by updating from the VFO website. If you install from the CD, you'll need to update the way you do with JAWS 18, except you'll use the JAWS 2018 menu system, or else (again) by going to the website -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gary Lee Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion I understand how to get the version. what I have is jaws 18.0.4534.400 I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that. > On Jan 19, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Gary Lee <kb9...@arrl.net> wrote: > > What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? > I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. > > thanks for the help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders
Try F6. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Kevin Lee" <klee...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 10:30 Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook 2010 folders How do I access my list of folders? Using jaws 2018 1000 712.54 ILM. Email is golden !!! Kevin Lee For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
Justin - no. JAWS 2018 is the yearly release of JAWS for the calendar year 2018. JAWS 18 was the yearly release of JAWS for the calendar year 2017. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Justin Williams" <justin.willia...@gmail.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 05:57 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion JAWS 2018 is the updated version of JAWS 18. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of sandy Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 8:19 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion please folks, please explain to someone who isn't as tech savy as the majority of you, why there needs to be more than 1 jaws version per jaws number? -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 12:08 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion Gary, You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that." No. JAWS 2018, as others have said, is a completely different version from JAWS 18. You need to install JAWS 2018 from your DVD and then check for updates before you will be "up to date". Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 19:34 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can do this with the 2018 disc or by updating from the VFO website. If you install from the CD, you'll need to update the way you do with JAWS 18, except you'll use the JAWS 2018 menu system, or else (again) by going to the website -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gary Lee Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion I understand how to get the version. what I have is jaws 18.0.4534.400 I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that. > On Jan 19, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Gary Lee <kb9...@arrl.net> wrote: > > What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? > I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. > > thanks for the help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion
Gary, You asked: "...I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that." No. JAWS 2018, as others have said, is a completely different version from JAWS 18. You need to install JAWS 2018 from your DVD and then check for updates before you will be "up to date". Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Adrian Spratt" <adr...@adrianspratt.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 19:34 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion JAWS 2018 is not considered an update to JAWS 18. It's starts all over, and you need to install it separately from JAWS 18. You can do this with the 2018 disc or by updating from the VFO website. If you install from the CD, you'll need to update the way you do with JAWS 18, except you'll use the JAWS 2018 menu system, or else (again) by going to the website -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gary Lee Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 6:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws version confusion I understand how to get the version. what I have is jaws 18.0.4534.400 I have installed all updates that jaws has told me about. also received a jaws 2018 cd. just wondering if the updates I installed covered that. > On Jan 19, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Gary Lee <kb9...@arrl.net> wrote: > > What version number should I see if I have the latest jaws 2018 installed? > I see jaws 18, but can’t get to the version right now. > > thanks for the help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to authorize Jaws 2018 on a newly acquired laptop
Mike, Well, it's 12:55 in their time zone, so give them 10 minutes to come back from lunch, and start calling. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michael " <masse...@q.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 09:45 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to authorize Jaws 2018 on a newly acquired laptop Nope, Dave, I still haven't heard back. I even checked the about dialog and still no joy there either. Thanks for your response. Mike M. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 10:37 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to authorize Jaws 2018 on a newly acquired laptop Mike, Just keep calling them, and pestering them. Hope by now you've already heard back. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michael " <masse...@q.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 09:29 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to authorize Jaws 2018 on a newly acquired laptop Yesterday I got my hands on a Toshiba laptop pc running Windows 8.1, but I have now updated the pc to the latest Windows 10 fall creator's update. However, after I installed Jaws 2018 from a DVd, I am now being asked to enter an authorization number which I cannot find in my saved e-mail from last June. I called VFO over an hour ago and left my phone number for a call back. I know that VFO tech support is likely busy, but are they so busy that I can't get a call back in less than an hour? Really? There are certain programs I cannot install because Jaws keeps telling me that I have the professional version which I do not. How on earth do I get an authorization code? I'm sorry, but this situation is very frustrating. I had to end a call with the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk because I am unable to get the 2018 version of Jaws authorized. Incidentally, I got the pc from my sister because she seldom used. It. Sincerely, Michael Massey For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Unable to authorize Jaws 2018 on a newly acquired laptop
Mike, Just keep calling them, and pestering them. Hope by now you've already heard back. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Michael " <masse...@q.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 09:29 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unable to authorize Jaws 2018 on a newly acquired laptop Yesterday I got my hands on a Toshiba laptop pc running Windows 8.1, but I have now updated the pc to the latest Windows 10 fall creator's update. However, after I installed Jaws 2018 from a DVd, I am now being asked to enter an authorization number which I cannot find in my saved e-mail from last June. I called VFO over an hour ago and left my phone number for a call back. I know that VFO tech support is likely busy, but are they so busy that I can't get a call back in less than an hour? Really? There are certain programs I cannot install because Jaws keeps telling me that I have the professional version which I do not. How on earth do I get an authorization code? I'm sorry, but this situation is very frustrating. I had to end a call with the Microsoft Disability Answer Desk because I am unable to get the 2018 version of Jaws authorized. Incidentally, I got the pc from my sister because she seldom used. It. Sincerely, Michael Massey For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel
Likely. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: <jyandt.mar...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 14:29 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel Will these same steps work in Excel 2013? -Original Message- From: George Martinez Sr Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 4:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel ALT + O Then C, then W Is what I always use in Excel 2016 George A. Martinez, CPA O-602.368.8854 F-206.666.2589 C-602.368.5424 "I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to Andy Rooney -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Reed Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 2:29 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel Hello, "Alt, then c then w then a for auto adjust." Doesn't work for me. This is how I do it. Hit Control+SpaceBar to select the entire column Hit Alt+h for the Home menu Hit down-arrow until I hear "Cells" Hit Right arrow to open the "cell" sub-menu hit down-arrow until I hear "Format button dropdown Has Popup" Press Enter to open the popup Press down-arrow until I see what I'm looking for. Column Width for a fixed column width or Auto Fit Column width. Reed -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dave...Oregonian Sent: January 15, 2018 12:58 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel Alt, then c then w then a for auto adjust. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <d...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:35 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel Just forwarding this for a friend. -Original Message- From: K M Davis Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:05 PM To: David Ferrin Subject: excel I typed in the jaws users adress and it kept coming up as david f. However here is my question...how to widen columns in excel worksheet in office 2016 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel
Alt, then c then w then a for auto adjust. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "David Ferrin" <d...@jaws-users.com> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:35 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fw: excel Just forwarding this for a friend. -Original Message- From: K M Davis Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 12:05 PM To: David Ferrin Subject: excel I typed in the jaws users adress and it kept coming up as david f. However here is my question...how to widen columns in excel worksheet in office 2016 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
