Re: [JAWS-Users] Vertical Centering

2017-11-16 Thread David Ferrin
Well I would have a lot less email to read, but so far it has not been a 
problem. Believe it or not Bob and I started this monster 12 years ago last 
month.


I wonder how many messages have landed in my inbox over the years. On the 
other hand it is probably best that I do not know.


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 8:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

Hi John

No don't stop helping, it wasn't your fault or anyone elses!  That was a
good piece of information, & the only way I found about the typo was
checking my settings!  Hell, if everyone stopped posting because of typos,
Señor Ferrin  moderators, would be some very lonely people, & there
would be a hell of a lot more clueless Jaws users!  And that my friend, is
the truth!  Keep it coming!
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: John R. Vaughn

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg


Mike, you must be correct.  All I did was forward the last message I had on
this matter.  So thank you for correcting.  I think I will butt out from
trying to give help.
John, retired and happy in southwest Florida

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

Hi John,

I know these are not your steps, but after you press, Alt + V, from the
Layout tab to get to the Vertical Alignment combobox, Vertical is not an
option from the list.  The Vertical Alignment combobox options are:
Top, Center, Justified, & Bottom.

Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message -
From: John R. Vaughn
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg


Here is the post to the list
John
From: JAWS-Users-List  on behalf of
Kevin Hourigan 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

Hello Tom,
Below are the directions from FS Training.
Cheers Kevin.
To center the text of the letter vertically on the page after you have typed

it, do the following:
.Press CTRL+HOME to move to the top of the document.
.Press ALT+P to move to the Page Layout tab of the ribbon.
.Press SP to access the Page Setup button. The Page Setup multi page
dialog box opens.
.Press CTRL+TAB until you move to the Layout tab of the dialog box.
.Press ALT+V to move to the Vertical Alignment combo box, and then
choose Vertical in the list.
.Finally, press ENTER twice to close combo box and the dialog box. Focus

returns to the document area, and the text is centered vertically on the
page.
NOTE: It is not necessary to center the text on the page if the letter is
more than one page in length.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Clary
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 12:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

that's horizontal center

On 1/8/15, j Bron  wrote:

Control E centers.

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On Behalf Of Tom Clary
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] key strokes to verticly center ms word

 i know this has been ansered before, but what are the key strokes to
verticly center a 2010 ms word paragraph

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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of wayne smith
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Verticle Centeringg

Apologies-I remember seeing the instructions for the vertical centering of
text in aMS Word doc but I can't find them. Can some kind soul please post
them? Just to be clear, I am asking for vertical centering and not
horizontal centering. Thanks



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

2017-11-16 Thread David Ferrin
Remember IE is not being updated as much as other components of windows. 
Also live mail is suffering the same fait.


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working.  I will
try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, hearing
aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and gave it up.
Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

Hi Tom

It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer versions
were installed.  I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I was
told by FS tech support several years ago.  If you uninstall J2018, make
sure to leave shared components & settings.  You can try installing J17
first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about removing
2018.  What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018?
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: T. Civitello

To: Jaws users list
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018


Windows 7 and Jaws 2018
I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17
in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018
first.  Thanks, Tom
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[JAWS-Users] Research It!

2017-11-16 Thread rosecombs52
After updating to Fall Windows Creator the Research function in Jaws 2018 no
longer has a list of places to research, type in a search term, press tab to
make a selection of the 19 items that used to be there and there are zero
items.  These were there on initial installation of Jaws 2018, however, once
Jaws restarted the list is gone.  

Running Windows 10 Fall update, Jaws 2018 latest build, numbering sequence
has too many points and numbers to recall but it is the latest.  I do not
wish to reinstall Jaws every time I wish to see something I have been able
to use in the past, and which still works in Jaws 18, or did before disk
drive decided not to function.  

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Ed, not sure, but I will closely monitor the issue and see if it happens
again and try and remember what happened during the prior shutdown.
John

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi John,
Do you think a Windows update change this or was it something else? Just
curious. 
Mr. Ed

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Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Ed, yes, on both of my Toshiba 5500 laptops.
John

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:27 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi All,

I have two desktop computers running the latest Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. I
believe this happened since laste week some time. Both of my Jaws had the
automatically start Jaws at the log on screen uncheck. I had to go back into
both computers and re check this in the Jaws setup. Has anyone else had this
issue lately?

Mr. Ed 

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[JAWS-Users] Certificate error

2017-11-16 Thread Arianna Calesso
Using Windows 7 and JAWS 18 I'm getting a certificate error when trying to go 
to the internet.  How do I change this?

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

2017-11-16 Thread wayne smith
When that happens to me it usually means that the computer has reset its
time and date back to when it was originally built. Check your time and date
to see if they are current. If they are not then set them to the present.
Other than that I have no other ideas.

Wayne 

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Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

Using Windows 7 and JAWS 18 I'm getting a certificate error when trying to
go to the internet.  How do I change this?

Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

2017-11-16 Thread net bat66
check your computer clock.  if its out of date, or if the battery is dead you 
could get this error.


-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 7:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

Using Windows 7 and JAWS 18 I'm getting a certificate error when trying to go 
to the internet.  How do I change this?


Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Research It!

2017-11-16 Thread LeDon
Research it is working on my computer after the falls update and with jaws
2018. 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Research It!

After updating to Fall Windows Creator the Research function in Jaws 2018 no
longer has a list of places to research, type in a search term, press tab to
make a selection of the 19 items that used to be there and there are zero
items.  These were there on initial installation of Jaws 2018, however, once
Jaws restarted the list is gone.  

Running Windows 10 Fall update, Jaws 2018 latest build, numbering sequence
has too many points and numbers to recall but it is the latest.  I do not
wish to reinstall Jaws every time I wish to see something I have been able
to use in the past, and which still works in Jaws 18, or did before disk
drive decided not to function.  

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Ed, not sure, but I will closely monitor the issue and see if it happens
again and try and remember what happened during the prior shutdown.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi John,
Do you think a Windows update change this or was it something else? Just
curious. 
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Ed, yes, on both of my Toshiba 5500 laptops.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:27 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi All,

I have two desktop computers running the latest Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. I
believe this happened since laste week some time. Both of my Jaws had the
automatically start Jaws at the log on screen uncheck. I had to go back into
both computers and re check this in the Jaws setup. Has anyone else had this
issue lately?

Mr. Ed 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

2017-11-16 Thread Arianna Calesso

Oh, thank you.  That did the trick.

Arianna
- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error


check your computer clock.  if its out of date, or if the battery is dead 
you could get this error.


-Original Message- 
From: Arianna Calesso

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 7:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

Using Windows 7 and JAWS 18 I'm getting a certificate error when trying to 
go to the internet.  How do I change this?


Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

2017-11-16 Thread David Ferrin
David's' tutorials are on the server folks. Here is the link you would be 
looking for:


http://jaws-users.com/text/email/Mail/index.html


-Original Message- 
From: Mitch

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:27 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

Hi Mary,  David Moore has written helpful tutorials for both Windows 10 Mail 
as well as Edge.
Should you want either or both, I can send them to you as attachments if you 
wish.

You can write me off list at

mi...@orbitelcom.com

Best Wishes, Mitch

Q:  Why did the spider cross the road?
A:  To get to the other Web Site.
Courtesy of our 5 year old Grandson

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

Hi all,

I have just joined this list with a new copy of JAWS 2018 installed on
a Windows 10 64-bit pc. It has been years since I used JAWS, so I'm the
next thing to a newby. I'm interested in the use of the Windows 10 mail
client with JAWS. Because of issues with the Edge browser, and the fact
that this mail app is apparently based on that engine, I am thinking
that it might not be all that great with JAWS until the underlying Edge
issues are fully solved. Is that true? I'd like to be wrong, as I
really don't think I need a mail app as complex as Outlook, which I
don't own in any case. Advice, please?

Mary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

2017-11-16 Thread Kevin



Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The 
way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I 
heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.


Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have 
launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, 
you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are 
ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, 
your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.




Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them 
to your taskbar:


Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your 
taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.


To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the 
run dialog.


just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter 
of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.


Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop 
instead?


Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type 
Mail, for example.


When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow 
down to:


Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.



Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get 
you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to 
different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar 
apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. 
Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. 
Narrator works great as well.


When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by 
pressing:


Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan 
Mode needs to be turnned off.


Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you 
can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.


Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end 
of this tutorial.




Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and 
press enter.


If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab 
to Manage Accounts and press enter.


Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account 
dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types 
(Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so


on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, 
if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the 
email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password 
box, and enter your password.


Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your 
emails will be in your in box from the last three months.


Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for 
example, any account will import into this choice:


Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google 
account.


Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of 
the settings.


For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the 
account.


The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice 
if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.


The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few 
older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.


To import all of your accounts:

Just 

Re: [JAWS-Users] maximizing a window in IE?

2017-11-16 Thread Star Gazer
Thanks everybody

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] maximizing a window in IE?

Hi All,
I believe you can also do a windows key plus up arrow to maximize or a
windows key down arrow to minimize. 
Mr.Ed

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 3:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] maximizing a window in IE?

It's a Microsoft set of commands. Alt-space together brings up the menu,
then press x for maximize or n for minimize

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Behalf Of Star Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:48 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] maximizing a window in IE?

Hi. How do I minimize or maximize a window on IE using JFW 18.0? 
Thank you


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Παναγιωτης Αντωνοπουλος
Hi Mary/all,
Just try jaws-key-cntrl-f and you might see light again (smile).
Gr  eet ings from storm- struck Greece,
Takis

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Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF
document

I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader.
There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in
HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files.
So if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF
document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing
wrong and how can I fix it?
Mary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

2017-11-16 Thread Arianna Calesso

Yes, that does solve the problem.

Arianna
- Original Message - 
From: "wayne smith" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error



When that happens to me it usually means that the computer has reset its
time and date back to when it was originally built. Check your time and 
date

to see if they are current. If they are not then set them to the present.
Other than that I have no other ideas.

Wayne

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Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Certificate error

Using Windows 7 and JAWS 18 I'm getting a certificate error when trying to
go to the internet.  How do I change this?

Arianna
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[JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

2017-11-16 Thread Tom Behler
Hello, everyone.

 

Yesterday, you may recall that I was told by Freedom Scientific Tech Support
that the best way to solve the issue of Outlook Crashing when entering
addresses into the "to" field of a new e-mail message was to put Outlook in
safe mode.

 

This is continuing to work for me, although I must add that if you shut your
computer down for any reason, you will have to go back into Outlook and put
it back into safe mode.

 

Apparently, the safe mode setting isn't saved, as I have just discovered.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Research It!

2017-11-16 Thread rosecombs52
Lucky, I reinstalled Jaws Tuesday, then Windows update ran and it
disappeared again.  Did a Jaws repair, it was back, then Jaws restarted and
it is gone again, that is the list of items one can choose from, weather ...
is gone, the program is still there, but nothing to search, can enter zip
code for example but the weather and other items are gone.  Everything is
up-to-date on the computer as of today.  


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Research It!

Research it is working on my computer after the falls update and with jaws
2018. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Research It!

After updating to Fall Windows Creator the Research function in Jaws 2018 no
longer has a list of places to research, type in a search term, press tab to
make a selection of the 19 items that used to be there and there are zero
items.  These were there on initial installation of Jaws 2018, however, once
Jaws restarted the list is gone.  

Running Windows 10 Fall update, Jaws 2018 latest build, numbering sequence
has too many points and numbers to recall but it is the latest.  I do not
wish to reinstall Jaws every time I wish to see something I have been able
to use in the past, and which still works in Jaws 18, or did before disk
drive decided not to function.  

Rose  rosecomb...@cox.net


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Behalf Of John R. Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Ed, not sure, but I will closely monitor the issue and see if it happens
again and try and remember what happened during the prior shutdown.
John

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Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi John,
Do you think a Windows update change this or was it something else? Just
curious. 
Mr. Ed

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Behalf Of John R Vaughn
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 9:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Ed, yes, on both of my Toshiba 5500 laptops.
John

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Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:27 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Starting Jaws automatically was turn off

Hi All,

I have two desktop computers running the latest Jaws 2018 and Windows 10. I
believe this happened since laste week some time. Both of my Jaws had the
automatically start Jaws at the log on screen uncheck. I had to go back into
both computers and re check this in the Jaws setup. Has anyone else had this
issue lately?

Mr. Ed 

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[JAWS-Users] Outlook Crashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

2017-11-16 Thread Gene Stone
Maybe I was not paying close attention to this. I am using Windows ten
latest of Creator at 17.9 and jaws as of yesterday Jaws 2018 latest release.
I also have Microsoft Outlook office complete Word and E-mails. With Jaws 18
it was ok with the up-date it did and then Outlook did a up date. So I said
maybe and they do have it resolved in 2018 version latest release. I have
no issues. There is another Jaws users group and sometimes asked, If in
Windows 7 and running the programs is it necessary to go all the way to jaws
18 and the latest of Jaws 2018, which is a rename now for Jaws 19. AS VFO
and FS Eric has stated.
My thought is no if running the Windows Seven why go to the more advance
when and Eric tell me if wrong, please or David F. That 2018 is for Windows
ten and its advance to Creator and all. 
The other thing you might want to take a look at. If hacked or in buying by
someone making the computer for you, if you have a license for the programs
and  including windows. I found out the hard way in buying this computer in
paying hard working cash, and clearly what I wanted, to find out my Windows
ten home, instead a windows ten Pro, jacked license. So I had to buy a whole
new Windows ten to get a license. This can and does effect programs. Because
a jacked license doesn't have all the .. David could explain more clearly. I
just know since my working with "My Computer Works," company out of Arizona
that  now all my programs work well, including Outlook word and e-mail. 
The last thought, if you have 2016 when it did not work for me , a new
E-mail, I type two letters and tab once and right there it was. Of course if
you have more people and have the same two letters you will have to type
more before Tabbing. As it doesn't give a  list. As said that is no longer
an issue with 2018 Jaws
Geno, Portland, ME. The quiet one

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Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:54 PM
To: Jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When
Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

Hello, everyone.

 

Yesterday, you may recall that I was told by Freedom Scientific Tech Support
that the best way to solve the issue of Outlook Crashing when entering
addresses into the "to" field of a new e-mail message was to put Outlook in
safe mode.

 

This is continuing to work for me, although I must add that if you shut your
computer down for any reason, you will have to go back into Outlook and put
it back into safe mode.

 

Apparently, the safe mode setting isn't saved, as I have just discovered.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

2017-11-16 Thread George Martinez Sr
Microsoft is taking their foot off the pedal with IE-11.  Therefore, you
should get used to using another browser.
Several of the banks I log into for clients stopped allowing me to login
with IE-11 forcing me to switch.
Now for the good part, a number of IRS web sites I use for professionals
will not allow you to use anything but IE-11.
So, I now have 3 browsers loaded on my task bar with Chrome as my default.
George

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE 
11.

Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough 
already!

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "T. Civitello" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018


> Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working.  I 
> will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, 
> hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and 
> gave it up. Tom
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Mike B.
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
>
> Hi Tom
>
> It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer 
> versions
> were installed.  I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I 
> was
> told by FS tech support several years ago.  If you uninstall J2018, make
> sure to leave shared components & settings.  You can try installing J17
> first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about 
> removing
> 2018.  What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018?
> Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
> Sent from my iBarstool.
> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
> - Original Message - 
> From: T. Civitello
> To: Jaws users list
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
>
>
> Windows 7 and Jaws 2018
> I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 
> 17
> in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 
> 2018
> first.  Thanks, Tom
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[JAWS-Users] clipboard and Google Chrome

2017-11-16 Thread Terry Chaney
Is there a way to copy information from a web page to the clipboard in 
Google Chrome.  I can get a single line using the regular method but no 
luck with information below that line.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
Mary, in addition to the accessibility area you find when you press control-k 
for preferences, try pressing alt-e for edit, then arrowing up to accessibility 
and going through the multi-page dialog there.

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Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 4:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

I couldn’t find that setting either to double check it. When you first start 
Adobe acrobat reader, you do get that Accessibility wizard. I was a little bit 
confused with that, but I did tell it to read all pages. But then there was 
something about should I display continuously or as a single page. I picked 
single page. Because I thought the telling if I wanted to read all pages even 
in large documents where is sufficient. Now I can’t find the screen 
Accessibility thing again to go through it. I’ve certainly done through the 
menus and really can’t find it. Hopefully this jaws  control F will do it.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:54 PM, net bat66  wrote:
> 
> i don't know where the setting is. but you have to set adobe to load the 
> entire document into memory. the default is to load one page at a time. if it 
> is set this way jaws will only find text that is showing on the screen.;
> 
> -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:45 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
> document
> 
> What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document
> 
> I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
> There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
> HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
> if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
> document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
> wrong and how can I fix it?
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

2017-11-16 Thread George Martinez Sr
I HATE sometimes behavior in a computer.  


The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


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Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

Agreed about MSFT and IE.
But, this behavior has been occurring for at least a year; and it doesn't 
occur when using other screen readers.
The problem is that it is not totally replicable; you can try the same thing

and it might only happen ten percent of the time.

I haven't had this issue with Googl3e Chrome, but since a lot of people 
still use IE, it is frustrating that this problem is so widespread.


- Original Message - 
From: "George Martinez Sr" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018


> Microsoft is taking their foot off the pedal with IE-11.  Therefore, you
> should get used to using another browser.
> Several of the banks I log into for clients stopped allowing me to login
> with IE-11 forcing me to switch.
> Now for the good part, a number of IRS web sites I use for professionals
> will not allow you to use anything but IE-11.
> So, I now have 3 browsers loaded on my task bar with Chrome as my default.
> George
>
> The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
> expecting different results.
> George a Martinez CPA, PC
> 12231 N 50th Avenue
> Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
> Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
> Email  ga.marti...@cox.net
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:41 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
>
> Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE
> 11.
>
> Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough
> already!
>
> Steve
> - Original Message - 
> From: "T. Civitello" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
>
>
>> Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working.  I
>> will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco,
>> hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and
>> gave it up. Tom
>>
>> -Original Message- 
>> From: Mike B.
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
>>
>> Hi Tom
>>
>> It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer
>> versions
>> were installed.  I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I
>> was
>> told by FS tech support several years ago.  If you uninstall J2018, make
>> sure to leave shared components & settings.  You can try installing J17
>> first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about
>> removing
>> 2018.  What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018?
>> Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
>> Sent from my iBarstool.
>> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
>> the
>> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: T. Civitello
>> To: Jaws users list
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
>>
>>
>> Windows 7 and Jaws 2018
>> I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version
>> 17
>> in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of
>> 2018
>> first.  Thanks, Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
Mary, I find that three-key combo works in a number of places. For example, it 
functions differently enough in MS Word to make it sometimes a useful 
alternative to MS's control-f find command. With PDF files, it's the only find 
command that works while using JAWS.
-Original Message-
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Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

Thank you for this information. Where should I have looked to have found that? 
Doess this work in other instances if control f doesn’t work? What is the 
difference between control F and control jaws key f?
Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> 
> What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document
> 
> I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
> There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
> HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
> if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
> document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
> wrong and how can I fix it?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Cristóbal
I've generally used the insert+control+f command across all programs as it 
seems to be nearly universal for Jaws as opposed to keeping track on which 
applications may and may not allow the control+f command to find something. 

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Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

Mary, I find that three-key combo works in a number of places. For example, it 
functions differently enough in MS Word to make it sometimes a useful 
alternative to MS's control-f find command. With PDF files, it's the only find 
command that works while using JAWS.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

Thank you for this information. Where should I have looked to have found that? 
Doess this work in other instances if control f doesn’t work? What is the 
difference between control F and control jaws key f?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> 
> What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document
> 
> I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
> There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
> HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
> if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
> document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
> wrong and how can I fix it?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

2017-11-16 Thread Miriam Vieni
Tom,

I can't get into Outlook safe mode again. Each time I try, it tells me I
have to identify the switch I'm using or something like that. I was out,
turned off the computer, came back, found your message, tried to open a
message with an address, and couldn't. Then I tried to follow the directions
that I followed yesterday and they don't work today.

Miriam

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Behler
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:54 PM
To: Jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When
Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

Hello, everyone.

 

Yesterday, you may recall that I was told by Freedom Scientific Tech Support
that the best way to solve the issue of Outlook Crashing when entering
addresses into the "to" field of a new e-mail message was to put Outlook in
safe mode.

 

This is continuing to work for me, although I must add that if you shut your
computer down for any reason, you will have to go back into Outlook and put
it back into safe mode.

 

Apparently, the safe mode setting isn't saved, as I have just discovered.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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[JAWS-Users] Retract previous message

2017-11-16 Thread Miriam Vieni
I managed to get back into safe mode. I made an error when following Tom's
directions. I used an upper case o for outlook instead of a lower case.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing voice on the fly, is it possible in JFQW 2018?

2017-11-16 Thread Mike B.
Hi Mary,

Press, control, Insert, + S, to get to the list of voice profiles, arrow up 
/ down to the 1 you want, & press enter.
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: mary otten
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 4:51 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing voice on the fly, is it possible in JFQW 
2018?


Hi all,

I have found the keystrokes that allow you to change the rate of the current 
voice on the fly, that is, without entering into the Jaws voices menu. But I’m 
not seeing any means of changing voices or languages within a given speech 
profile, assuming the one you pick has multiple languages installed. I have 
found this handy on my Mac and elsewhere. Is this possible with Jaws? Thanks 
in advance.

Mary

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Mary Otten
Thank you for this information. Where should I have looked to have found that? 
Doess this work in other instances if control f doesn’t work? What is the 
difference between control F and control jaws key f?
Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> 
> What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document
> 
> I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
> There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
> HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
> if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
> document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
> wrong and how can I fix it?
> Mary
> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] documents going to wrong place

2017-11-16 Thread Steve

Go into Notepad and hit the save command.

If you shift-tab four times, you should get to your default folder.

You need to change that from desktop to your My Documents folder, which 
usually lives on your C:\users\x\my documents\  where x is your 
UserName.


Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] documents going to wrong place



Hi, when I save a document in Notepad I have always saved it as a text
document and it will show up in my My Documents folder. Now even though I 
am
doing the exact same thing I always have, they are showing up on my 
desktop.

Any thoughts as to why this is and what I can do about it? Thanks.  Judy &
Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

2017-11-16 Thread Steve

Tom,

I know of two ways to get Outlook up in safe mode.

You can use the Windows run command and type:
outlook.exe /safe

Here is what you want to do to keep opening it in safe mode by creating a 
shortcut:


You can also create a new shortcut to outlook.exe and add the /safe switch;

First, determine the location of outlook.exe on your system. In general you'll 
find it under;


 a.. 32-bit version of Windows
 C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office 
 b.. 64-bit version of Windows
 C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office 
If you can't find it, do a search for outlook.exe or use OutlookTools (free) 
instead.


Once you've found outlook.exe we create a shortcut to it with the /safe 
switch to prevent Outlook from opening an extra window each time you click 
the shortcut or use your keyboard shortcut.


 1.. Right click on an empty space on your Desktop and choose New-> 
Shortcut
 2.. Type the path to outlook.exe between quotes or browse to its location 
via the Browse. button

 3.. Type a space behind that and /safe
 4.. The entire line should now look like this (example is for a 32-bit 
version of Outlook 2010 on a 64-bit version of Windows);

 "C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Office\Office14\OUTLOOK.EXE" /safe
 5.. Click Next
 6.. Name your shortcut for instance: Outlook Safe Mode
 7.. Click Finish

73's,
Steve, K8SP
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Behler" 

To: "Jaws users list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:54 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When 
Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail




Hello, everyone.



Yesterday, you may recall that I was told by Freedom Scientific Tech 
Support

that the best way to solve the issue of Outlook Crashing when entering
addresses into the "to" field of a new e-mail message was to put Outlook 
in

safe mode.



This is continuing to work for me, although I must add that if you shut 
your
computer down for any reason, you will have to go back into Outlook and 
put

it back into safe mode.



Apparently, the safe mode setting isn't saved, as I have just discovered.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] clipboard and Google Chrome

2017-11-16 Thread Steve

Doesn't setting a temporary placemarker method work for you, Terry?

1.  Go to the top (or bottom) of the text you want to copy, and set a temp 
placemarker with windows-control-k.


2.  Go to the end of the text you want to copy and press the dual-layer 
keystroke insert-space then the letter M to copy between the placemarker and 
the marked point where your virtual cursor is located.


3.  Press Control-C to copy to the clipboard.

4.  If you want to append additional stuff to the clipboard, do the same 
thing as above, except instead of copying the marked selection to the 
clipboard control-C, use control-V instead.


Steve- Original Message - 
From: "Terry Chaney" 

To: "Jaws list" 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 10:16 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] clipboard and Google Chrome


Is there a way to copy information from a web page to the clipboard in 
Google Chrome.  I can get a single line using the regular method but no 
luck with information below that line.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

2017-11-16 Thread Mary Otten
Hi David,
I think I have the correct tutorial. It was sent out to either the windows 10 
list or the NVDA list fairly recently. One thing I really miss are hot keys. 
All this tabbing is going to give me carpal tunnel syndrome. Smile. If there 
are hot keys for things like sending a message et Cetera, how can I access a 
list of same? Also, when in the message list, pressing enter on the message 
with focus doesn’t always seem to result in being able to do a say all with 
Jaws key Plus down arrow. It’s probably operator error, but it is frustrating.

Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:49 AM, David Moore  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mitch!
> Thanks for offering to do that for Mary!
> David Moore
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Mitch 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:59 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?
> 
> Hi Mary,  David Moore has written helpful tutorials for both Windows 10 Mail 
> as well as Edge.
> Should you want either or both, I can send them to you as attachments if you 
> wish.
> You can write me off list at
> 
> mi...@orbitelcom.com
> 
> Best Wishes, Mitch
> 
> Q:  Why did the spider cross the road?
> A:  To get to the other Web Site.
> Courtesy of our 5 year old Grandson
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Mary Otten
> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:39 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have just joined this list with a new copy of JAWS 2018 installed on
> a Windows 10 64-bit pc. It has been years since I used JAWS, so I'm the
> next thing to a newby. I'm interested in the use of the Windows 10 mail
> client with JAWS. Because of issues with the Edge browser, and the fact
> that this mail app is apparently based on that engine, I am thinking
> that it might not be all that great with JAWS until the underlying Edge
> issues are fully solved. Is that true? I'd like to be wrong, as I
> really don't think I need a mail app as complex as Outlook, which I
> don't own in any case. Advice, please?
> 
> Mary
> 
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[JAWS-Users] Changing voice on the fly, is it possible in JFQW 2018?

2017-11-16 Thread mary otten
Hi all,

I have found the keystrokes that allow you to change the rate of the current 
voice on the fly, that is, without entering into the Jaws voices menu. But I’m 
not seeing any means of changing voices or languages within a given speech 
profile, assuming the one you pick has multiple languages installed. I have 
found this handy on my Mac and elsewhere. Is this possible with Jaws? Thanks in 
advance.

Mary

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Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

2017-11-16 Thread Steve
Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE 
11.


Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough 
already!


Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "T. Civitello" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018


Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working.  I 
will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, 
hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and 
gave it up. Tom


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

Hi Tom

It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer 
versions
were installed.  I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I 
was

told by FS tech support several years ago.  If you uninstall J2018, make
sure to leave shared components & settings.  You can try installing J17
first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about 
removing

2018.  What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018?
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: T. Civitello

To: Jaws users list
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018


Windows 7 and Jaws 2018
I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 
17
in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 
2018

first.  Thanks, Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Mary Otten
I couldn’t find that setting either to double check it. When you first start 
Adobe acrobat reader, you do get that Accessibility wizard. I was a little bit 
confused with that, but I did tell it to read all pages. But then there was 
something about should I display continuously or as a single page. I picked 
single page. Because I thought the telling if I wanted to read all pages even 
in large documents where is sufficient. Now I can’t find the screen 
Accessibility thing again to go through it. I’ve certainly done through the 
menus and really can’t find it. Hopefully this jaws  control F will do it.
Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:54 PM, net bat66  wrote:
> 
> i don't know where the setting is. but you have to set adobe to load the 
> entire document into memory. the default is to load one page at a time. if it 
> is set this way jaws will only find text that is showing on the screen.;
> 
> -Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:45 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
> document
> 
> What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document
> 
> I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
> There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
> HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
> if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
> document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
> wrong and how can I fix it?
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

2017-11-16 Thread Steve

Agreed about MSFT and IE.
But, this behavior has been occurring for at least a year; and it doesn't 
occur when using other screen readers.
The problem is that it is not totally replicable; you can try the same thing 
and it might only happen ten percent of the time.


I haven't had this issue with Googl3e Chrome, but since a lot of people 
still use IE, it is frustrating that this problem is so widespread.



- Original Message - 
From: "George Martinez Sr" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018



Microsoft is taking their foot off the pedal with IE-11.  Therefore, you
should get used to using another browser.
Several of the banks I log into for clients stopped allowing me to login
with IE-11 forcing me to switch.
Now for the good part, a number of IRS web sites I use for professionals
will not allow you to use anything but IE-11.
So, I now have 3 browsers loaded on my task bar with Chrome as my default.
George

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and
expecting different results.
George a Martinez CPA, PC
12231 N 50th Avenue
Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215
Voice  602.368.8854  FAX  206-666-2589
Email  ga.marti...@cox.net


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE
11.

Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough
already!

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "T. Civitello" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018



Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working.  I
will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco,
hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and
gave it up. Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018

Hi Tom

It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer
versions
were installed.  I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I
was
told by FS tech support several years ago.  If you uninstall J2018, make
sure to leave shared components & settings.  You can try installing J17
first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about
removing
2018.  What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018?
Take care.  Mike.  Dodgers, try again next year!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: T. Civitello

To: Jaws users list
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018


Windows 7 and Jaws 2018
I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version
17
in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of
2018
first.  Thanks, Tom
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread net bat66

if its the newest adobe dc its in the edit pull down in accessibility.
1 problem though. if you have a large document it will take a long time for it 
to load.
i tried a 174 page document and it took 2 minutes to load and about 20 seconds 
before jaws started talking
i also tried some searches for words at the bottom of the file and jaws control 
c only found the words when i turned off single page mode.


-Original Message- 
From: Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document


I couldn’t find that setting either to double check it. When you first start 
Adobe acrobat reader, you do get that Accessibility wizard. I was a little bit 
confused with that, but I did tell it to read all pages. But then there was 
something about should I display continuously or as a single page. I picked 
single page. Because I thought the telling if I wanted to read all pages even 
in large documents where is sufficient. Now I can’t find the screen 
Accessibility thing again to go through it. I’ve certainly done through the 
menus and really can’t find it. Hopefully this jaws  control F will do it.

Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:54 PM, net bat66  wrote:

i don't know where the setting is. but you have to set adobe to load the 
entire document into memory. the default is to load one page at a time. if it 
is set this way jaws will only find text that is showing on the screen.;


-Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document


What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at 
once.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document


I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
wrong and how can I fix it?

Mary


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[JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Mary Otten
I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in HTML 
documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So if I 
do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF document, I 
expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing wrong and how 
can I fix it?
Mary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in HTML 
documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So if I 
do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF document, I 
expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing wrong and how 
can I fix it?
Mary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread net bat66
i don't know where the setting is. but you have to set adobe to load the entire 
document into memory. the default is to load one page at a time. if it is set 
this way jaws will only find text that is showing on the screen.;


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document


What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten

Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in HTML 
documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So if I 
do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF document, I 
expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing wrong and how 
can I fix it?

Mary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

2017-11-16 Thread David Moore
Hi Mitch!
Thanks for offering to do that for Mary!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mitch 
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

Hi Mary,  David Moore has written helpful tutorials for both Windows 10 Mail as 
well as Edge.
Should you want either or both, I can send them to you as attachments if you 
wish.
You can write me off list at

mi...@orbitelcom.com

Best Wishes, Mitch

Q:  Why did the spider cross the road?
A:  To get to the other Web Site.
Courtesy of our 5 year old Grandson

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 2:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 2018 with Windows 10 mail app?

Hi all,

I have just joined this list with a new copy of JAWS 2018 installed on
a Windows 10 64-bit pc. It has been years since I used JAWS, so I'm the
next thing to a newby. I'm interested in the use of the Windows 10 mail
client with JAWS. Because of issues with the Edge browser, and the fact
that this mail app is apparently based on that engine, I am thinking
that it might not be all that great with JAWS until the underlying Edge
issues are fully solved. Is that true? I'd like to be wrong, as I
really don't think I need a mail app as complex as Outlook, which I
don't own in any case. Advice, please?

Mary


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Carbonite, any JAWS users have any tips?

2017-11-16 Thread Star Gazer
Yes and it's great. It will back up your
data, but I think in order to back up programs you need the most expensive
plan. 

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of AndrewDS
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Carbonite, any JAWS users have any tips?

Hello all, I'm considering using Carbonite to back up some of my critical
files. Does anyone have any experience with a service?  Thanks for any help
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[JAWS-Users] Carbonite, any JAWS users have any tips?

2017-11-16 Thread AndrewDS
Hello all, I'm considering using Carbonite to back up some of my critical 
files. Does
anyone have any experience with a service?  Thanks for any help  Andrew
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document

2017-11-16 Thread Adrian Spratt
Me, too. But the control-f Microsoft command in Word can be useful. For 
example, it will find strings of characters, while the JAWS search finds only 
whole words. 

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Of Cristóbal
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 5:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

I've generally used the insert+control+f command across all programs as it 
seems to be nearly universal for Jaws as opposed to keeping track on which 
applications may and may not allow the control+f command to find something. 

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document

Mary, I find that three-key combo works in a number of places. For example, it 
functions differently enough in MS Word to make it sometimes a useful 
alternative to MS's control-f find command. With PDF files, it's the only find 
command that works while using JAWS.
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Of Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 3:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF 
document

Thank you for this information. Where should I have looked to have found that? 
Doess this work in other instances if control f doesn’t work? What is the 
difference between control F and control jaws key f?
Mary


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> On Nov 16, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Adrian Spratt  wrote:
> 
> What works is adding the JAWS key to the control-f command, all three at once.
> 
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> Behalf Of Mary Otten
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> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to use jaws find in acrobat reader in a PDF document
> 
> I have read the jaws help regarding using jaws with acrobat acrobat reader. 
> There was no mention made of using the find command, but since it works in 
> HTML documents on the Internet, I assumed it would also work in PDF files. So 
> if I do a control F, then type in a word or phrase I know is in a PDF 
> document, I expect to be moved there. That is not happening. What am I doing 
> wrong and how can I fix it?
> Mary
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

2017-11-16 Thread Tom Behler
Miriam:

The only suggestion I have at this point is to hit enter on the item you get
when you try to open Outlook in safe mode.

For me, it says something like Outlook 1, and if I hit enter on it, I'm put
in safe mode.

Why this is all so necessary is beyond me.

If you can't get things to work, I'd call Freedom Scientific Tech Support.

I'm saying this for two reasons:

1.  They really should help you with your issue, as they helped me;  and

2.  The more people alert them to this issue, the higher it will become on
their priority list of things to fix.

Please keep me posted, and let me know how things turn out for you.

Tom Behler


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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue
When Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

Tom,

I can't get into Outlook safe mode again. Each time I try, it tells me I
have to identify the switch I'm using or something like that. I was out,
turned off the computer, came back, found your message, tried to open a
message with an address, and couldn't. Then I tried to follow the directions
that I followed yesterday and they don't work today.

Miriam

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Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:54 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Additional Note Regarding Outlook Chrashing Issue When
Entering E-mail Addresses Into A New E-mail

Hello, everyone.

 

Yesterday, you may recall that I was told by Freedom Scientific Tech Support
that the best way to solve the issue of Outlook Crashing when entering
addresses into the "to" field of a new e-mail message was to put Outlook in
safe mode.

 

This is continuing to work for me, although I must add that if you shut your
computer down for any reason, you will have to go back into Outlook and put
it back into safe mode.

 

Apparently, the safe mode setting isn't saved, as I have just discovered.

 

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan

 

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[JAWS-Users] documents going to wrong place

2017-11-16 Thread Judy
Hi, when I save a document in Notepad I have always saved it as a text
document and it will show up in my My Documents folder. Now even though I am
doing the exact same thing I always have, they are showing up on my desktop.
Any thoughts as to why this is and what I can do about it? Thanks.  Judy &
Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character

2017-11-16 Thread Ann M Medlar

I had issues opening link with IE and lately FF.  I believe FF updated and
some state new update troublesome with speech.  Chrome I could read it.  I
am using Jaws 2018 and W10.
 The link is race results from a rowing regatta with over 2000 boats.
https://www.herenow.com/results/#/races/20420/results
Any help appreciated.  Thanks Brian.
Like I guess this is HTML code?  g
Ann

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Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character

Hi Ann Marie,

A nonbreaking space is used to keep text together.  When used between two
words instead of a regular space the two words can be forced to be at the
beginning or end of the same line.  Nonbreaking spaces can also be used to
produce different alignment of text on the same line.  The code you would
enter on the number pad while holding down Alt key is 0160.  You can enter a
nonbreaking space by holding down CTRL with shift keys and pressing
spacebar.  The nonbreaking spaces should not be removed when replacing
paragraph marks with tabs.  You don't want to replace nonbreaking spaces
with tabs because when converting to a table using tabs as column dividers
you will end up with unwanted columns and text that is meant to be  together
in the same column being separated into different columns.

I went to the web site you sent me and I think I found a way to get the
information pasted with vertical bars dividing the columns.  When pasted in
Word I think the text can then be converted into a table and the vertical
bars used as column dividers or they can be changed to tabs that can be used
as column dividers.

The site is quite difficult to navigate and copying information isn't really
a straightforward process.  Perhaps you can send the link to this list and
see if someone else can offer a way to handle it.  I will Email you
privately as well but I won't be able to spend time on this until later
tomorrow.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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Sent: November 15, 2017 4:12 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character

Hi Brian,
I cannot seem to get the procedure you have after word instead.
There is a non breaking space code 160.
When I replace ^013 to ^t the non breaking 160 also changes to a tab.
Any possibility I can replace 160 with I believe is a page break then change
do 013 to tab?



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Behalf Of Brian Lee
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character

Hi Ann Marie,

If you press number 5 on the number pad three times quickly when number lock
is off you get a numeric code for the current character.  The code given is
13.  However, you actually need to use 013.  The 13 is the code initially
used as a carriage return.  If you turn the number lock on, hold down Alt
and type 13 on the number pad followed by a space, you will likely get an
8th note.  (♪).  Instead you turn on the number lock, hold down Alt while
typing 013 and you get the paragraph mark.

If using 013 in a Find and Replace dialog box in Word you would need to put
a caret (shift on 6) before the numbers.  However, using caret followed by a
lower case p does the same thing.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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Behalf Of Ann M Medlar
Sent: November 14, 2017 3:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character

Brian how did you figure out that it was a paragraph marker?  Is there a
place I can find the paragraph or tab equivalent.   Maybe hexadecimal is not
the way to go.
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From: Ann M Medlar [mailto:amedl...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: RE: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character

Brian,
As always thank you.  I tried to find these values.  How did you know that
it is a paragraph mark?
I did find that Notepad has a hex converter but had no idea how to add on
this plug in.


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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 9:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Id a blank character

Hi Ann Marie,

The character at the end of each line except the bottom line is a paragraph
mark.  To replace it in Word you can use a caret (shift key with 6) followed
by a lower case p.  In the Replace With box you can use caret mark followed
immediately by a lower case t.  Use the Replace all to replace all paragraph
marks with tabs.

If there