Re: [JAWS-Users] email servers with jaws
Jaws doesn't interact directly with a mail server, so technically it works equally well with all of them. Jaws interacts with the mail program you're using. If you're running Vista, Windows Mail works quite well with Jaws. I didn't start using Thunderbird until I got my Windows 10 computer, but that's what I'm using to compose this message. I think Thunderbird would be a good option on a Vista computer using Jaws 17. Both Thunderbird and Windows Mail support POP3 and IMAP servers which are pretty standard for all providers, including Yahoo, Gmail, etc. Jeff On 3/18/2017 8:33 AM, maconc...@yahoo.com wrote: i'm getting tired of yahoo mail, and would like to know what other servers does jaws work good on. jaws 17, vista For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird 52.0 and jaws
I'm running later versions of Windows and JAWS (Win 10 and JAWS 18) and just updated Thunderbird to version 52. It's working fine for me, but here's a couple of things for you to try. First, you may have already restarted your computer, but if not, that's always a good thing to try. Also, when I have had trouble reading the list view, I've found that checking the View menu sometimes helps. Try the Sort by, Threads and Headers menu options. Hope this helps. Jeff On 4/5/2017 4:01 PM, anna vimini wrote: Hi all using Thunderbird 52.0 when I tab to the list view jaws only says list view and does not read the heading of any message in the list view how can I get jaws to read the headings in the list view like it use to in the earlier versions of Thunderbird? I am using windows 8.1 and jaws 15 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] convert html to css
HTML stands for hypertext markup language and CSS stands for cascading style sheet. You cannot "convert" HTML to CSS -- they are two separate things and perform different functions. You can add CSS to your HTML document to effect its style, such as font sizes, colors, etc. AS far as writing HTML without CSS being hard work, that's not the case. It's actually extra work to add the CSS, but if you want to control the "look" of your HTML document, you need to use CSS. However, you don't convert or get rid of your hypertext markup, you just add a style sheet to define the style and format of your document. Jeff On 4/6/2017 3:59 PM, Dialup@56k wrote: Lenny CSS is nothing more than instructional code to control how HTML behaves. Your web page is written / structured using HTML. How that structure looks and behaves is controlled by CSS code. Hope this helps. Glen On 07-Apr-2017 8:45 am, Lenny McHugh wrote: Glen, my web page is written in html. I want to convert it to css for both compliance and to give the option for the viewer to change color and font size. -Original Message- From: Dialup@56k Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2017 11:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] convert html to css Lenny CSS code is instruction code defining how html code will look / behave. They are two, although related, separate entities. You MIGHT be able to write html without CSS but it would be hard work and would not comply with any current W3C standards. Glen --- On 06-Apr-2017 1:27 pm, Lenny McHugh wrote: Is there a utility that will convert my html web page to css? I think that I have over 20 pages or files that would have to be manually rewritten. I stumble through html it would take me a very long time to try and rewrite in css. It would be nice if such an animal exists that it also would be jaws friendly. I would like to add the option for people to change both color and font sizes for readability. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Stopping audio playback on web pages
I can't remember which list I saw this on and I can't find the message, so I hope someone here can answer this question for me. Some websites (such as CNET) play audio files when the page is loaded and I can't find any way to stop this audio. I'd like to find a way to do it using Internet Explorer, but what I read somewhere is that there is no way in IE, but there is a key combination in Firefox to do it. Can someone please refresh my memory with this key combination? Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] JAWS misreads text
I'm experiencing a problem with JAWS that's rather annoying. As I arrow around in an edit field, JAWS sometimes reads the character or line it just moved off of rather than the character/line that is selected. This doesn't happen with every arrow movement, but often enough to be annoying. Is there anything I can do about this? Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS misreads text
I meant to mention that I'm using the latest version of JAWS 18 on a fairly new Windows 10 computer. This seems to happen mostly when I arrow fairly quickly. If I arrow slowly, it works better. Thanks, Jeff On 4/28/2017 6:07 PM, Audiobookfan wrote: I'm experiencing a problem with JAWS that's rather annoying. As I arrow around in an edit field, JAWS sometimes reads the character or line it just moved off of rather than the character/line that is selected. This doesn't happen with every arrow movement, but often enough to be annoying. Is there anything I can do about this? Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS misreads text
This happens in various apps. In fact, as I think about it, I'm not sure it even needs to be in an edit field as such. This may happen on a web page when I'm using the virtual cursor, for instance. I'll try your suggestion regarding maximizing the screen, but I hope there's a better solution than that. Thanks, Jeff On 4/28/2017 7:21 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: Jeff, Does this happen in all edit fields, only in those associated with a specific application, or what? A basic suggestion would be to ensure the window is maximized. The universal way to maximize a window is to press alt and the spacebar together, release, then press the letter x. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 9:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS misreads text I meant to mention that I'm using the latest version of JAWS 18 on a fairly new Windows 10 computer. This seems to happen mostly when I arrow fairly quickly. If I arrow slowly, it works better. Thanks, Jeff On 4/28/2017 6:07 PM, Audiobookfan wrote: I'm experiencing a problem with JAWS that's rather annoying. As I arrow around in an edit field, JAWS sometimes reads the character or line it just moved off of rather than the character/line that is selected. This doesn't happen with every arrow movement, but often enough to be annoying. Is there anything I can do about this? Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] problem with online purchase
Have you tried just entering the card number? The card number actually identifies the card type, so those graphics may just be indicators of the card types they accept. Jeff On 5/16/2017 6:52 AM, Susan Wojtecki wrote: For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Browsers and background audio
I'm still trying to find the best way to deal with sites like CNET which automatically launch audio/video on their pages. First of all, can anyone tell me what is being used to play these things? I don't think it's Flash. Is it javascript or something else? Someone enlightened me to the fact that control-m will stop playback in Firefox. Is Firefox the only browser that offers this option? Can playback be stopped in either Chrome or IE? Finally, is there anything in any of the browsers' settings that will block this background media? I saw something in IE that *might* do it, but I'm not sure. I couldn't find anything in either Firefox or Chrome that seemed to have anything to do with this. If it matters, I'm running JAWS 18 on Windows 10 Anniversary Home edition with the latest versions of all 3 browsers mentioned. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Browsers and background audio
It seems to be browser dependent. As I said, control-m will stop playback in Firefox. I'm looking for ways to stop or block playback in both IE and Chrome. In IE, there are options to not download images and sounds, but will any of these options block this embedded media? If so, which option? Alternatively, is there an extension or add-on that might work to solve this problem? Thanks, Jeff On 5/19/2017 6:52 AM, Kenny wrote: I agree! CNet stinks now for it auto plays some sort of info video whennever you access resources there. It doesn't seem to be a Flash player. Some new fancy HTML 5 player that JAWS isn't able to recognize any controls to stop it. At 02:46 AM 5/19/2017, you wrote: I'm still trying to find the best way to deal with sites like CNET which automatically launch audio/video on their pages. First of all, can anyone tell me what is being used to play these things? I don't think it's Flash. Is it javascript or something else? Someone enlightened me to the fact that control-m will stop playback in Firefox. Is Firefox the only browser that offers this option? Can playback be stopped in either Chrome or IE? Finally, is there anything in any of the browsers' settings that will block this background media? I saw something in IE that *might* do it, but I'm not sure. I couldn't find anything in either Firefox or Chrome that seemed to have anything to do with this. If it matters, I'm running JAWS 18 on Windows 10 Anniversary Home edition with the latest versions of all 3 browsers mentioned. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.
I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, I mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the document. Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\) character at the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the document might have looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely. All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank lines. Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case, some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated. Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access Word documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents, it's just that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read and sometimes getting it in another format is not an option. Thanks, Jeff On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote: Hi All, Another option might be WordPad. At least with Windows 10, WordPad will open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in the original doc or docx format. Just do the usual save command, control s is the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either over-right the original file, or save it under a different name. If you over-right the original file, you will lose some functions that are in the full version of Word, but you will not lose text or even most of the format, fonts, etc. I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad, but I know for sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it. Tim Ford -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the compatibility pack from Microsoft. Andy - Original Message - From: "Mike B." To: Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Hi Jo, You need MS Word to open this file. The file extension, .doc, is the old file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not sure about 2003. If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed. This program allows newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office versions. If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a totally different set of steps. First we need to know if you have Office installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your needs. Take care, Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Jo Luland To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Hi All, I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck I'm talking about and will be able to help me. Thanks for any suggestions you may have. Jo For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.
Those steps did not work for me. For one thing, the "wordpad" file type included rtf, docx, txt, etc. Again, when I opened the file, there were the backslash characters at the beginning of several of the lines. Is it possible that this file can only be opened by Word? Is there no way to access these files without obtaining the Word program? Jeff On 5/23/2017 1:01 AM, Tim Ford wrote: That exact same thing happened to me. The solution proved to be the following steps. Open WordPad, and press control + o to open the file directory system. Tab to the file type combo box, then arrow up or down to the format you want to open, e.g. a .doc or .docx Word document. Press enter on the appropriate line. Next, press shift + tab to get to the list of folders/files that are in your computer as the default folder for document files. Arrow to the file you want, press enter. The results should now be more in line with the original .doc or .docx file. Important tip! Be sure to check that file type combo box every time you open WordPad. The default setting, for example, is only for WordPad documents. You need to arrow down to the very end of the list (or use the end key), and there is the all-files filter, the only one that will show you all the files and folders on your computer. Best of luck, and hope the above helps. Tim Ford -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad. I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, I mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the document. Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\) character at the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the document might have looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely. All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank lines. Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case, some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated. Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access Word documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents, it's just that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read and sometimes getting it in another format is not an option. Thanks, Jeff On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote: Hi All, Another option might be WordPad. At least with Windows 10, WordPad will open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in the original doc or docx format. Just do the usual save command, control s is the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either over-right the original file, or save it under a different name. If you over-right the original file, you will lose some functions that are in the full version of Word, but you will not lose text or even most of the format, fonts, etc. I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad, but I know for sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it. Tim Ford -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the compatibility pack from Microsoft. Andy - Original Message - From: "Mike B." To: Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Hi Jo, You need MS Word to open this file. The file extension, .doc, is the old file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm not sure about 2003. If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed. This program allows newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older Office versions. If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is a totally different set of steps. First we need to know if you have Office installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on your needs. Take care, Mike. Sennt from my iBarstool. Go Dodgers! - Original Message - From: Jo Luland To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Hi All, I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need to create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not familiar with this. I've been using JAWS for many
Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.
Adrian, actually, .doc was not in the list, but .docx was in the list, and it's a .docx file I'm trying to read. Wordpad does open the file, but it's got these backslashes at the beginning of some lines. My assumption is that those are some form of formatting code that isn't being interpreted properly by Wordpad. My concern is that if Wordpad isn't interpreting these codes properly, what else might it not be doing properly? What else might I encounter in other .docx files? I suppose it's possible that these are intentional and they appear the same in the file opened in Word, but it sure doesn't seem likely. Actually, Judy's suggestion to copy the content to Notepad worked. The backslashes didn't transfer over. I suppose this is an acceptable work-around, at least until it doesn't work. Jeff On 5/23/2017 12:44 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: Jeff, When you list other file types, are you saying .doc was not a listed extension? Or are you saying there are too many backslashes in the opened document? The way to eliminate them is to search for backslash and replace either with nothing or a space. I'm not clear what you mean when you say these steps don't work for you. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad. Those steps did not work for me. For one thing, the "wordpad" file type included rtf, docx, txt, etc. Again, when I opened the file, there were the backslash characters at the beginning of several of the lines. Is it possible that this file can only be opened by Word? Is there no way to access these files without obtaining the Word program? Jeff On 5/23/2017 1:01 AM, Tim Ford wrote: That exact same thing happened to me. The solution proved to be the following steps. Open WordPad, and press control + o to open the file directory system. Tab to the file type combo box, then arrow up or down to the format you want to open, e.g. a .doc or .docx Word document. Press enter on the appropriate line. Next, press shift + tab to get to the list of folders/files that are in your computer as the default folder for document files. Arrow to the file you want, press enter. The results should now be more in line with the original .doc or .docx file. Important tip! Be sure to check that file type combo box every time you open WordPad. The default setting, for example, is only for WordPad documents. You need to arrow down to the very end of the list (or use the end key), and there is the all-files filter, the only one that will show you all the files and folders on your computer. Best of luck, and hope the above helps. Tim Ford -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad. I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, I mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the document. Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\) character at the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the document might have looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely. All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank lines. Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case, some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated. Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access Word documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents, it's just that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read and sometimes getting it in another format is not an option. Thanks, Jeff On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote: Hi All, Another option might be WordPad. At least with Windows 10, WordPad will open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in the original doc or docx format. Just do the usual save command, control s is the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either over-right the original file, or save it under a different name. If you over-right the original file, you will lose some functions that are in the full version of Word, but you will not lose text or even most of the format, fonts, etc. I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad, but I know for sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it. Tim Ford -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Monday, May
Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.
Thanks, Dave, but I already know this. However, I don't have any version of Word and I don't intend to purchase it just to be able to read files from people who refuse to publish documents in more universally accessible formats. Jeff On 5/23/2017 7:49 PM, Dave ... wrote: Jeff, MS-Word 2007 or later will read a .docx file. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message ----- From: "Audiobookfan" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 19:32 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad. Adrian, actually, .doc was not in the list, but .docx was in the list, and it's a .docx file I'm trying to read. Wordpad does open the file, but it's got these backslashes at the beginning of some lines. My assumption is that those are some form of formatting code that isn't being interpreted properly by Wordpad. My concern is that if Wordpad isn't interpreting these codes properly, what else might it not be doing properly? What else might I encounter in other .docx files? I suppose it's possible that these are intentional and they appear the same in the file opened in Word, but it sure doesn't seem likely. Actually, Judy's suggestion to copy the content to Notepad worked. The backslashes didn't transfer over. I suppose this is an acceptable work-around, at least until it doesn't work. Jeff On 5/23/2017 12:44 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote: Jeff, When you list other file types, are you saying .doc was not a listed extension? Or are you saying there are too many backslashes in the opened document? The way to eliminate them is to search for backslash and replace either with nothing or a space. I'm not clear what you mean when you say these steps don't work for you. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 3:08 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad. Those steps did not work for me. For one thing, the "wordpad" file type included rtf, docx, txt, etc. Again, when I opened the file, there were the backslash characters at the beginning of several of the lines. Is it possible that this file can only be opened by Word? Is there no way to access these files without obtaining the Word program? Jeff On 5/23/2017 1:01 AM, Tim Ford wrote: That exact same thing happened to me. The solution proved to be the following steps. Open WordPad, and press control + o to open the file directory system. Tab to the file type combo box, then arrow up or down to the format you want to open, e.g. a .doc or .docx Word document. Press enter on the appropriate line. Next, press shift + tab to get to the list of folders/files that are in your computer as the default folder for document files. Arrow to the file you want, press enter. The results should now be more in line with the original .doc or .docx file. Important tip! Be sure to check that file type combo box every time you open WordPad. The default setting, for example, is only for WordPad documents. You need to arrow down to the very end of the list (or use the end key), and there is the all-files filter, the only one that will show you all the files and folders on your computer. Best of luck, and hope the above helps. Tim Ford -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad. I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, I mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the document. Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\) character at the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the document might have looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely. All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank lines. Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case, some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated. Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access Word documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents, it's just that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read and sometimes getting it in another format is not an option. Thanks, Jeff On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote: Hi All, Another option might be WordPad. At least with Windows 10, WordPad will open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in the original doc or docx format. Just do th
Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
I'm not sure what might be going wrong, but if you want to access your mail on both your phone and your computer, you might want to consider using IMAP rather than POP3. Jeff On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Hi Rick, I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I try to download my Email from Gmail. Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18 What should i try? Andy - Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account Hi Andy, Give this a try: Source: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1 Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support POP, like Microsoft Outlook. Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email clients. IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time. POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to download new emails. Step 2: Set up POP First, set up POP in Gmail list of 6 items 1. On your computer, open Gmail. 2. In the top right, click Settings Settings . 3. Click Settings. 4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab. 5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on. 6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes. list end Next, make changes on your email client Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings. table with 2 columns and 6 rows Incoming Mail (POP) Server pop.gmail.com Requires SSL: Yes Port: 995 Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server smtp.gmail.com Requires SSL: Yes Requires TLS: Yes (if available) Requires Authentication: Yes Port for SSL: 465 Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587 If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com, then select Port 110. Server timeouts Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended) Full Name or Display Name Your name Account Name, User Name, or Email address Your email address Password Your Gmail password HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" To: Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do I go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC? Andy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account
Well, according to gmail help, they do support POP3, (Rick's instructions are from the support page) but it's not the default. You must go into gmail settings and enable POP3. However, I still maintain that IMAP is a better option. I don't use Outlook, so I'm not familiar with their error messages, but that doesn't sound like a proper account, although that might just be a name given to the account. The actual account ID should be your full gmail email address. Jeff On 5/24/2017 7:33 PM, Dialup@56k wrote: Actually, I don't think g mail uses POP these days, could be wrong. But as the Jeff said, IMAP is much more versatile than POP. Glen --- On 25-May-2017 12:27 pm, Audiobookfan wrote: I'm not sure what might be going wrong, but if you want to access your mail on both your phone and your computer, you might want to consider using IMAP rather than POP3. Jeff On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: Hi Rick, I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I try to download my Email from Gmail. Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18 What should i try? Andy - Original Message - From: "Rick Justice" To: Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account Hi Andy, Give this a try: Source: https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail&hl=en&visit_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235&rd=1 Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support POP, like Microsoft Outlook. Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email clients. IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time. POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to download new emails. Step 2: Set up POP First, set up POP in Gmail list of 6 items 1. On your computer, open Gmail. 2. In the top right, click Settings Settings . 3. Click Settings. 4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab. 5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable POP for mail that arrives from now on. 6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes. list end Next, make changes on your email client Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings. table with 2 columns and 6 rows Incoming Mail (POP) Server pop.gmail.com Requires SSL: Yes Port: 995 Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server smtp.gmail.com Requires SSL: Yes Requires TLS: Yes (if available) Requires Authentication: Yes Port for SSL: 465 Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587 If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com, then select Port 110. Server timeouts Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended) Full Name or Display Name Your name Account Name, User Name, or Email address Your email address Password Your Gmail password HTH, Rick Justice Tomorrow's another day, another way! and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved! - Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" To: Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do I go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC? Andy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] free email clients that work with jaws
If you're running Vista, you can use Windows Mail (formerly Outlook Express). It definitely supports Yahoo and gmail and it's very accessible with JAWS. I used it on my Vista computer for years. An alternative that is also free and accessible with later versions of JAWS is Thunderbird. That's the email program I'm currently using to compose and send this reply. Jeff On 5/27/2017 1:54 PM, claudette macon wrote: can any list member recommend a free email client, that works well with jaws, that supports both yahoo mail and gmail. vista, jaws 17 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] A fireFox Question.
I, too, want to know the answer to this question. For example, Firefox asks me if I want to save a password, but I cannot figure out where to answer that question. I'm running the latest Firefox with JAWS 18 under Windows 10. Jeff On 6/3/2017 7:35 PM, Judy Jones wrote: Hello Everyone, You know when you want to download something or access the information bar with Internet Explorer using Alt-N? How do you access this in FireFox? Thanks. Judy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC
Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest version. I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document? Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions
I like Toshiba. I currently have a Lenovo that I like very much. I would *strongly* disagree with the comment that a macbook is the best Windows laptop. Apple hardware is *way* overpriced. You could probably buy 2 Windows laptops for the price of a macBook. I think more importantly than the brand is what is inside. I prefer Intel over AMD. This Lenovo laptop has 8 GB of ram and a 250 GB SSD. I really, really like having an SSD. Everything is so fast. I just plug in an external 1 TB drive for additional data storage. It's all very fast. I also use an external wireless USB keyboard, so I didn't mind that the laptop keyboard didn't include a keypad. My laptop also has bluetooth, so that would be an option, but I've not used a bluetooth keyboard with my laptop. I have connected bluetooth headphones, though. As far as getting rid of bloatware is concerned, I understand the next version of Windows will have an option to install a fresh copy of Windows built right in. If I recall correctly, it's called Windows Refresh or something like that. It downloads a fresh copy of Windows and does a complete reinstall, keeping only some of the built-in Windows apps. All other apps and programs are removed, getting rid of all bloatware. I think this is the best idea Microsoft has had since they launched Windows. I know if I were buying a new computer, the first thing I'd do is bring it home and run a Windows Refresh, giving me a nice clean Windows to begin setting up. Hope this helps. Jeff On 6/14/2017 1:23 PM, Maria Campbell wrote: I have used Toshiba laptops for some years now and have been very satisfied. I always get numpads on mine, but still do use an external keyboard most of the time. lucky1i...@gmail.com Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small things, it does not exist at all. On 6/14/2017 3:52 PM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote: Tammy: As with most things, it all ends up being personal preference. Myself, however, would recommend a Dell laptop, with a full numeric keypad (I am assuming that there is a choice between having one, and not having one). My reason for this is that it is easier for me to do some of the JAWS keys with the numeric keypad, than having to learn the different keystrokes without one. But as I said, that is my preference. I have always used a Dell, so I cannot compare it with others. Hope this helps. Jerry -Original Message- From: Tammy Freitag Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:41 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] laptop questions Hello, I am looking for opinions about laptop brands. I know there isn't one perfect answer to this but I do value the opinions and experiences of others. I want to purchase a Windows 10 laptop. Here are my questions; 1. Which brand would you recommend? Why? 2. What brand would you totally avoid? Why?? 3. Since I use Jaws, would it be better to purchase a system off the shelf or have one custom built? I have had them custom built before because I didn't want all of the games and extra unaccessible programs taking up space. These will do for a start. Thanks for your input! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC
Thanks to everyone who responded. I did get the solution in a private email. Here's what worked: Click the accessibility setup assistant. In the setup assistant do the following: click next until you find read single page... set this to read entire document. then click next until you see open in web browser and uncheck it. then click next and finally finish. Both of these items needed adjustment. The values above were not the defaults. I can now read my document, but it did take quite a while to load the document. It's over 100 pages. Then, as I arrowed down through the document, it seemed a little sluggish. Not snappy like reading a web page or text document in Notepad. Is this normal for a PDF document? Thanks, Jeff On 6/15/2017 3:03 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote: I've just located David Whitehead's instructions for making Adobe Reader X accessible. I can't be sure, but I think they also apply to Adobe DC. I'll copy them below. But first, a friend wrote the following off-list: One note on your suggestion: If you do get that dialog (when Adobe opens a PDF file) and check to use the current settings for the future, the choice will not be presented the next time. Or at least that's what I get with Adobe Acrobat. Now to David Whitehead's instructions: 1, Open adobe, 2, press ctrl+k (preferences), 3, now press the letter "g"'general, 4, now tab and Uncheck, Enable Protected Mode at startup. You need to change another setting so, tab until you have General highlighted again. 5. With General highlighted, press the letter I, until you have Internet highlighted. 6. Tab to, Display PDF in browser, if this box is checked press the spacebar to uncheck it. 7. Tab to the okay button, press enter to close preferences & save your changes, & press Alt + F4 to close Adobe. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jorge Rivas Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:48 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC Hey, Teacher Mr. Adrian, thanks, I need to do this to my new machine, that flies like a butterfly and stings like a bee! Jorge -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC Yes, JAWS's convenient OCR is probably the simplest way of handling this problem. but I'm wondering why nothing was spoken. Typically, I get an Adobe dialog asking how I want the PDF file made readable. I click on my choice and wait. Sometimes the document is read, sometimes I'm told it's "blank." Jeff, did you set up Adobe Reader for accessibility? If not, open Adobe/Acrobat and press control-k. JAWS will verbalize "Accessibility" right away. Go from there. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jared Rimer Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:40 PM To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents. On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote: You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't convert to text. Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or S for screen or C for image. - Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest version. I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read. Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent. Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong? How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document? Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Jared Rimer This address is on mailing lists, please do not use it as a personal correspondence address. Please E-mail through my web site www.jaredrimer.net for faster response times. Thanks for your support. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequentl
Re: [JAWS-Users] Acrobat DC.
Judy, Here's how I did it. Find the Accessibility submenu under the Edit menu. Right-arrow to open the Accessibility submenu and arrow to the Setup Assistant then press enter. That will launch the wizard that we've been discussing in this thread. I just accepted the defaults the first time through, but it didn't work for me, so Randy suggested that I change the options to load the entire document and turn off the option to open in the web browser. Later, someone posted that opening a page at a time was sometimes better, so perhaps my only problem was the web browser option, but I've not tried changing the loading option back to a page at a time. Anyway, it's the Setup Assistant you need rather than the Preferences, I think. Jeff On 6/15/2017 7:12 PM, Judy Jones wrote: Hello, I have been following this thread but have only been able to trouble-shoot tonight. I am only seeing some of the items mentioned in the how-to e-mails as far as how to set up for assistive technology. When I open up Acrobat DC, I am presented with a series of buttons: Recent, Sent, My Computer, Document Cloud, and Add Account. I did press Control-K, which pulled up the preferences in a treeview list, but there are none of the accessibility choices I have seen in earlier versions of Adobe, and none of the choices listed in the e-mails.. I went on the web site for Adobe to download the latest free version, but apparently what I have is it, version XI, by the way. I am running Windows 10 Creator. I have managed to view some Adobe docs, but this does not open by default when clicking on a PDF doc. Any ideas for me? Thanks. Judy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Power Shell vs Command Prompt
What's the difference between Power Shell and Command Prompt in Windows 10? Are both accessible with JAWS 18? Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Power Shell vs Command Prompt
Thanks for the response. So, I gather it's accessible with JAWS. Will it still run programs like the Command Prompt does? Specifically, If I want to turn off hibernation, I was instructed to run the following command in the Command Prompt: powercfg.exe /hibernation off When I upgraded to Windows 10 Creators edition, it substituted Power Shell for Command Prompt in the windows-x menu and I'm wondering if I can just use the Power Shell for that or if I need to switch back to Command Prompt. Thanks, Jeff On 6/22/2017 8:44 PM, JM Casey wrote: Powershell is pretty cool. There is the GUI version, whose name I have forgotten, but I don't know how accessible that one is. But the command-oriented PS isdefinitely usable and you can do some neat tricks with it. I'm definitely still learning. . I may not be a system admin but I recently used it to create a small script to generate randomised lists of files from specific folders, namely, my local film collection, so that my girlfriend and I could end up with a new flick to watch each night. You can use it to get info about your network and perform other tasks. You can install and uninstall apps just by entering in instructions from the command line. I guess if you aren't interested in this sort of thing it's not that advantageous. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Jason White Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 9:02 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Power Shell vs Command Prompt PowerShell is newer and much more capable. It is definitely accessible with JAWS. I've set it as the default. Command Prompt is much older (similar to the old DOS shell). It isn't a serious system administration tool as PowerShell is. Audiobookfan wrote: What's the difference between Power Shell and Command Prompt in Windows 10? Are both accessible with JAWS 18? Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users?
I agree with Steve. It's been my experience that amount of memory makes a more noticeable difference in performance than does the processor when talking about multitasking those sorts of tasks. I've also found that having an SSD makes a huge difference in speed of almost everything. Of course, none of these things will improve Internet sluggishness, but loading programs and switching tasks is much snappier with my 8 GB of memory and my SSD. And I have an I5 sixth generation processor. Jeff On 7/23/2017 11:18 AM, Steve wrote: I doubt that in itself would make much difference. You have other issues to consider: First, amount of memory. Second, type of hard-drive. Memory is pretty self-explanatory. In terms of hard drives, most laptops come with a 5400RPM drive; whereas desktops come with 7200RPM drives. This, essentially, slows down the speed at which data is retrieved and transferred to your computer's processor and cache memory. Steve - Original Message - From: "Mohib Anwar Rafay" To: Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2017 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I7 and I5, Does it really makes any difference for jaws users? Currently I am using I5 laptop, what I face some time, after opening several programmes like Kurzweil, few internet explorer tabs, my Dell laptop perform very slow. Is that the result of i5 processor, would it run smoothly with i7 in this scenario? On 7/23/17, Steve wrote: Not really, for every day use. There are i5 processors that will do better than i7, for general computing purposes, particularly if you put the extra cash into some more memory. Typically, if you use large spreadsheets or do some video editing or intensive gaming, then you want an i7 because it allows a lot more hyperthreading; i.e. if you get an eight-core I7 it will run 16 hyperthreads, while an I5 is limited to four threads, even if it has four cores. If money is not an object, go for the fastest I7 you can get with a good amount of memory. But, if you are just using it for everyday things like email and browsing, then go for a processor which might be a bit less powerful but has a lot less energy usage so you can conserve your battery for more operating hours. Steve For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ -- Mohib Anwar Rafay Phone: +919 555 555 765 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Using a G-Mail Account
Add the gmail account to Outlook as an IMAP account. This will keep it separate from your other account and allow you to interact with it the same as with your primary account. Jeff On 8/13/2017 2:12 PM, Annette Carr wrote: Hello All, I need to manage a G-mail account that is not my primary personal account. Does anyone have any tips on how to navigate and use the web version of G-mail? I need to either have a draft message that I can use to send out to new contacts, or be able to forward the original message and edit out the FWD from the subject line and the old header info in the body of the message. I will be sending out over 150 of these messages as I receive contact info. If I have multiple to send out at once, I plan to put all of the addresses in the BCC line. I do use Outlook 2010 for my personal e-mail, so is there a way to access this other account with Outlook and not have the messages get mixed together? Thanks, Annette For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Pronunciation dictionary
When trying to define the proper pronunciation for a word in the JAWS 18 dictionary, how does one indicate the syllable that should receive the accent? I'm trying to get JAWS to pronounce Duluth properly. The accent should be on the second syllable. JAWS wants to put it on the first syllable. Can anyone help me with this? Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech
I temporarily lose speech often when accessing an SD card in my built-in card reader. Here's what happens. When I insert my SD card into the card reader, most times I lose speech for about 20 seconds and each time I take some action the same thing happens. For example, I must wait about 20 seconds or so after inserting the card before I can arrow up and down to locate a folder. Once I get speech, I can arrow up and down fine, but as soon as I enter on a folder name to open the folder, I lose speech again for about 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I press the applications key to bring up the context menu. I must wait the 20 seconds or so before I can arrow through the menu. I'm running JAWS 2018 on Windows 10 version 1703, although this same problem occurred on JAWS 18 on this computer. This only happens with SD cards and not absolutely every time, but most times. Accessing the local SSD, external USB drives and network drives all behave as they should. I suspect this might be an issue with some setting in Windows 10, but I have no idea what setting or where to look for it. And perhaps it's something altogether different. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech
Opening PDF files is a completely different issue. The problem I'm encountering is in File Explorer, but not all media. I've only encountered the problem with SD cards in my built-in card reader. File Explorer works as expected for my local SSD as well as my external USB drive and my NAS drives. Just today, I slipped an SD card into my card reader and experienced the same problem. In fact, even arrowing to another folder caused the delay. This makes navigating through the file structure a very slow process. I hope someone can offer a remedy for this problem. Thanks, Jeff On 11/11/2017 6:49 AM, Vicki W. wrote: I have this same problem with JAWS, including JAWS 14. I notice it more when I am using IE or my antivirus is checking for updates, as well as opening PDF documents, which it has always done. Vicki - Original Message - From: "Dave...Oregonian" To: Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech I'm more suspicious that it's just JAWS. Ever since JAWS 17, there has been a "pause" effect most often occurring when opening a PDF document, and opening Outlook. I also noticed it pausing when launching ResearchIt, or the JAWS find on a web page. Always around 15 to 20 seconds of silence before speech returns. Still happens with JAWS 2018, and I'm unhappy to hear that it seems to also happen with your Windows 10. I'm still running Windows 7 32-bit on a Dell Latitude. This never happened with JAWS 16 or earlier. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" To: Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 22:49 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech I temporarily lose speech often when accessing an SD card in my built-in card reader. Here's what happens. When I insert my SD card into the card reader, most times I lose speech for about 20 seconds and each time I take some action the same thing happens. For example, I must wait about 20 seconds or so after inserting the card before I can arrow up and down to locate a folder. Once I get speech, I can arrow up and down fine, but as soon as I enter on a folder name to open the folder, I lose speech again for about 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I press the applications key to bring up the context menu. I must wait the 20 seconds or so before I can arrow through the menu. I'm running JAWS 2018 on Windows 10 version 1703, although this same problem occurred on JAWS 18 on this computer. This only happens with SD cards and not absolutely every time, but most times. Accessing the local SSD, external USB drives and network drives all behave as they should. I suspect this might be an issue with some setting in Windows 10, but I have no idea what setting or where to look for it. And perhaps it's something altogether different. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech
It's not a lack of RAM. I have plenty. And the app is File Explorer which behaves normally accessing all other drives. The problem is only with the SD card. Jeff On 11/12/2017 11:10 AM, john_just...@verizon.net wrote: This temporary loss of Jaws speech seems to be quite common when involving software which uses a lot of RAM. Here's another interesting observation. I have created shortcut keys for loading Jaws and other reading software. During that temporary silence, using the shortcut key for Jaws (CONTROL+ALT+J) doesn't work for restarting jaws. This is a bit out of my league but could it have something to do with not enough RAM in the system? If so, that would be a surprise to me. My new desktop at work has 18 gig of RAM. Yet, it still goes silent temporarily when loading certain on-line packages. JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech I temporarily lose speech often when accessing an SD card in my built-in card reader. Here's what happens. When I insert my SD card into the card reader, most times I lose speech for about 20 seconds and each time I take some action the same thing happens. For example, I must wait about 20 seconds or so after inserting the card before I can arrow up and down to locate a folder. Once I get speech, I can arrow up and down fine, but as soon as I enter on a folder name to open the folder, I lose speech again for about 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I press the applications key to bring up the context menu. I must wait the 20 seconds or so before I can arrow through the menu. I'm running JAWS 2018 on Windows 10 version 1703, although this same problem occurred on JAWS 18 on this computer. This only happens with SD cards and not absolutely every time, but most times. Accessing the local SSD, external USB drives and network drives all behave as they should. I suspect this might be an issue with some setting in Windows 10, but I have no idea what setting or where to look for it. And perhaps it's something altogether different. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech
I'm not using a USB card reader. As I said, I'm inserting the SD card into the built-in card reader on my laptop. There's no cable involved. Jeff On 11/12/2017 1:51 AM, The Iowa Gal wrote: Ok, I'm no expert but have you tried using this card reader on another computer? Looks like you have tried more than one SD card. If the cable is detachable, maybe it's worn. Just a few things that came to mind, sure hope you get it resolved...Norma -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 7:11 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech Opening PDF files is a completely different issue. The problem I'm encountering is in File Explorer, but not all media. I've only encountered the problem with SD cards in my built-in card reader. File Explorer works as expected for my local SSD as well as my external USB drive and my NAS drives. Just today, I slipped an SD card into my card reader and experienced the same problem. In fact, even arrowing to another folder caused the delay. This makes navigating through the file structure a very slow process. I hope someone can offer a remedy for this problem. Thanks, Jeff On 11/11/2017 6:49 AM, Vicki W. wrote: I have this same problem with JAWS, including JAWS 14. I notice it more when I am using IE or my antivirus is checking for updates, as well as opening PDF documents, which it has always done. Vicki - Original Message - From: "Dave...Oregonian" To: Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 2:05 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech I'm more suspicious that it's just JAWS. Ever since JAWS 17, there has been a "pause" effect most often occurring when opening a PDF document, and opening Outlook. I also noticed it pausing when launching ResearchIt, or the JAWS find on a web page. Always around 15 to 20 seconds of silence before speech returns. Still happens with JAWS 2018, and I'm unhappy to hear that it seems to also happen with your Windows 10. I'm still running Windows 7 32-bit on a Dell Latitude. This never happened with JAWS 16 or earlier. Dave Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer - Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan" To: Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 22:49 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Temporary loss of speech I temporarily lose speech often when accessing an SD card in my built-in card reader. Here's what happens. When I insert my SD card into the card reader, most times I lose speech for about 20 seconds and each time I take some action the same thing happens. For example, I must wait about 20 seconds or so after inserting the card before I can arrow up and down to locate a folder. Once I get speech, I can arrow up and down fine, but as soon as I enter on a folder name to open the folder, I lose speech again for about 20 seconds. The same thing happens when I press the applications key to bring up the context menu. I must wait the 20 seconds or so before I can arrow through the menu. I'm running JAWS 2018 on Windows 10 version 1703, although this same problem occurred on JAWS 18 on this computer. This only happens with SD cards and not absolutely every time, but most times. Accessing the local SSD, external USB drives and network drives all behave as they should. I suspect this might be an issue with some setting in Windows 10, but I have no idea what setting or where to look for it. And perhaps it's something altogether different. I'm open to all suggestions. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates
I don't have an answer for you regarding the problem, other than to echo someone else's comment that a recent JAWS 18 update supposedly addresses this issue. I can offer a work-around, however. You can configure Windows 10 to automatically log into a specified default user account. This bypasses the login screen and JAWS comes up talking. I don't recall the steps to accomplish this, but if it's an alternative you want to consider, Let us know and I'm sure someone can find the info for you. Jeff On 12/5/2017 2:16 PM, amca...@verizon.net wrote: I am having intermittent issues with logging in on 2 different Windows10 machines and I am running 2018. I have not called for technical assistance, because there seems to be many different scenarios, or else I am losing my mind. Annette -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Christine Murphy Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:12 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates Hello Everyone, I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729. I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when Windows 10 updates have taken place. Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the logon screen. I cannot tell when the logon screen appears and when it is ready to receive my Windows password. I cannot tell if anything is happening if I do enter something and try to TAB to the OK button. Needless to say, this makes logging on to my PC impossible at these times without sighted assistance. My husband who is sighted has helped me deal wit this. We have called the Microsoft Accessible Help line. They said that somehow JAWS gets corrupted when there are Windows 10 updates, and that we should uninstall and reinstall JAWS making sure to set JAWS to speak at the logon screen. Doing those things solves the problem until another Windows 10 update occurs. There was a Windows 10 update recently. We will need to go through the process of uninstalling and reinstalling JAWS for the thirdtime. I'm wondering if others among you have experienced these difficulties. I'm also wondering if there is a newer version of JAWS that does not have this problem with Windows 10 updates. I've read of so many problems with JAWS 2018 that I'm hesitant to upgrade to it at this point. I don't know how someone without sighted assistance would deal with the frustrations that Ihave described. Repeatedly waiting around for sighted help to fix a recurring problem such as this shouldn't be acceptable. As a comment, I want to also say that I'm finding the discussion of screen readers and web browsers interesting. I admit that having to become skilled using different screen readers and web browsers, and to keep assessing which screen reader/web browser combination works with various websites is very discouraging. I use Internet Explorer. Even the NY Times is crashing more now than it did previously. I usually get done what I need to but I admit that I'm definitely less technically adept than many of you. Thanks in advance for any advice you can offer. Christine Murphy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes
That's because control-l forwards the message. It leaves the To: field empty so you can provide the address to forward to. Control-shift-l replies to the list. It works on this list -- I just used it to send this reply. Jeff On 12/8/2017 4:03 PM, Adam Morris wrote: Hi Mike and all, When I use ctrl l the to field is blank. I heard I think on the thunderbird forum that there is a bug with ctrl l. When I reply to this message using ctrl r it just goes to Mike. If I use ctrl shift r it goes to Mike and the list. I went to the to field and deleted Mike so he doesn't get two copies. On 09-Dec-17 08:18, Mike B. wrote: Hi Jim, Thank you for the correction. I definitely read that table wrong, & Control + L is definitely the correct keystroke for replying to the list. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Jim Pursley To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 12:34 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes Control R responds to a single user message. Shift Control R responds to all (the list and the sender in this case) and Control L responds to the list. On 12/8/2017 5:37 PM, Mike B. wrote: Hi David, Yes, that would be my guess as well but Thunderbird also has a keystroke for replying to a list, Control, Shift, + L I found this by checking out the URL Hareth posted, http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/Thunderbird_5.html Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 11:25 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes Making an educated guess I believe it would be the reply command not the reply all command. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 1:27 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes Hi Hareth, What keystroke is used to reply to a message from a group / list such as this one, so the reply only goes to this list & noone else? I hope I'm making sense. Thank you very much for your help. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Hareth To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Thunderbird Keystrokes Hi mike, its: Ctrl+R Reply to Message (sender only) Ctrl+Shift+R Reply to all in Message you may find this page useful: http://www.shortcutworld.com/en/win/Thunderbird_5.html TC On 12/8/17, Mike B. wrote: Hi All, I would like to find out the reply to message only keystroke for Jaws & Thunderbird for a fellow list member. I have never used Thunderbird, so I'm not sure, & this will help this member not cross post / get their messages moderated wwhenever they reply or post. Would someone please post the send, reply to current message, reply to all, & reply to sender keystrokes for Jaws & Thunderbird? All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks much. Take care. Mike. Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder
Miriam, When you perform the transfer to your SD card, do you transfer the entire folder or just the files inside the folder? I'm wondering if the program you're using to transfer the files is removing them once they are transferred. If you're specifying the folder to transfer, it may be removing it once it's been transferred. Just a thought. Jeff On 2/8/2018 11:23 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote: So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4 days and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded The Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second gen stream with the companion software because I'm accustomed to transferring and opening books that way. I read the articles I wanted to read. And then later, I was emailing to someone about another issue I had and I remembered the books folder so I checked back to see if it was still in Documents and, lo and behold, it had disappeared. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item in that folder and you found that it was there but when you went back later the folder was gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home. Check out to find if other, mysteries are happening around the home. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I transferred The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in Documents. The folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream so the folder was empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents, it stays until I use it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365. Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder
Miriam, This sounds like a very strange problem which I cannot recall ever encountering before. So unfortunately, I don't have any other suggestions beyond that made by others that you contact Microsoft Accessibility. Good luck and if you discover the solution to your problem, please let us know. Jeff On 2/9/2018 6:42 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote: Jeff, The Humanware Companion software always works the same way. It finds the zip folder that contains the files for the book in my books folder. It unzips the zip folder, puts all the files in a folder, and then transfers this folder onto the SD card for the VR Stream or the cartridge for the NLS player. There's never been a problem, ever since Humanware developed this piece of software. It works with zip folders from NLS and Bookshare. The software is set to find the zip folders in my books folder which I've always had, ever since I began downloading books in 2007. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Audiobookfan Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 10:00 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder Miriam, When you perform the transfer to your SD card, do you transfer the entire folder or just the files inside the folder? I'm wondering if the program you're using to transfer the files is removing them once they are transferred. If you're specifying the folder to transfer, it may be removing it once it's been transferred. Just a thought. Jeff On 2/8/2018 11:23 AM, Miriam Vieni wrote: So the last time I constructed that folder, I looked each day for 3 or 4 days and the folder was sitting there, obediently waiting. Then I downloaded The Newyorker and placed it in the folder. I transferred it to my second gen stream with the companion software because I'm accustomed to transferring and opening books that way. I read the articles I wanted to read. And then later, I was emailing to someone about another issue I had and I remembered the books folder so I checked back to see if it was still in Documents and, lo and behold, it had disappeared. Miriam -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of LeDon Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 9:03 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder What a hell of a problem. If you went to your documents folder and then pressed the ctrl spacebar to insure that no folder had the focus. And then pressed the application key and arrowed up to, new and pressed enter. And you pressed return on folder. Then if you typed the name of the folder and you got a new folder with that name. Then you placed an item in that folder and you found that it was there but when you went back later the folder was gone. Well then I think that you might have a poltergeist in your new home. Check out to find if other, mysteries are happening around the home. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Miriam Vieni Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 5:39 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] My wayward Books Folder Remember that Books folder that I constructed and it then disappeared and I reconstructed it? I followed someone's directions and backspaced or something and it sat comfortably in Documents until I used it yesterday. I transferred The New Yorker magazine into it, and today, when I looked in Documents. The folder was gone. I'd transferred the magazine to my VR Stream so the folder was empty. It seems that each time I put it back in documents, it stays until I use it. After I use it, it disappears. Can anyone make a suggestion? 64 bit, Win7 IE 11, Jaws 18, Office 365. Miriam For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and audible.com
You cannot purchase books from Audible through the app. You must use the website. Once you have logged into your account on the website, there should be an Add to Cart button on the book's page. Jeff On 3/11/2018 8:41 AM, Jo wrote: I must be really thick because I can’t even find a buy button on Audible. I have Amazon prime so have the Amazon app and have the audible app and I have tried to download some books to my phone and it isn’t happening. I obviously need the dummies guide!! Jo Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Jim Pursley Sent: 11 March 2018 02:15 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS and audible.com Just hit the library link. Ignore the pass through key. On 3/10/2018 1:40 PM, Arianna Calesso wrote: Is anyone having trouble using the audible.com site? I just signed up to use audible but am having a problem accessing library. I'm told to use pass key through but still can't get into the library. Can anyone help? Arianna For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet navigation questions
Accelerator keys are very handy. You can find a list of these keys by pressing insert-h while viewing any webpage. Jeff On 3/13/2018 7:41 PM, Michele Thredgold wrote: Hi all. I have a couple of questions pertaining to navigating webpages with Internet explorer, latest version, on a Windows 10 laptop with the latest version of Jaws. Is that a keyboard shortcut to navigate straight to areas that have checkboxes? I found one on the Woolworths website in accessibility settings, but I had to keep moving down headings to get to it because I couldn’t remember if there was a shortcut. Also, if you are filling in a form that is set out like a table, is there a quick way of getting to the submit button halfway through the table, if the rest of the questions or fields are not applicable to you? It is so tiresome having to tab seven or eight times before you reach the button. I know pressing the letter B takes you to whatever buttons are on the page, but if you are in the middle of text fields, this can be tricky. Any feedback would be useful. Sent from my iPhone For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ThunderBird Versus WLM
I've never used WLM, but I do use and really like Thunderbird. Jeff On 3/27/2018 7:50 AM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote: Morning all. Can anyone tell me their preferences between ThunderBird and Windows Live Mail? I am considering going to a different email program, so I would appreciate everyones feedback on this. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks in advance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox and bookmarks
If you're viewing the page you want to bookmark, just press control-d. A dialog will open where you can edit the name and location of the bookmark, but if you just wait a few seconds, the dialog will close and save the bookmark in the main bookmarks folder. If you edit the name or location, tab to the Done button and whack enter. Jeff On 4/1/2018 11:45 AM, Leonard Morris wrote: How do you add a bookmark in Firefox? Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Confirmation of Thunderbird Keyboard Command
Yes, Jerry, you can either use control-w or press the escape key to close an open message and return to the message list. Jeff On 4/16/2018 10:26 AM, jerry martin wrote: Afternoon all. I downloaded Thunderbird last week, and am learning quite a bit; however, I need confirmation regarding one of the keyboard commands. When I am in an open email message, do I press the Control W key to get back to the inbox list? I am running the current Mozilla Thunderbird, JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks all. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders in Thunderbird
Well, this might depend somewhat on your View settings, but one important key is F6. In some mail programs (e.g., Windows Mail) you use the tab key to toggle between folder view and list view. With Thunderbird, you use the F6 key for this purpose. In the View menu, you might prefer the Classic Layout. Also in the Layout option of the View menu, you will probably want to have the Folder pane checked. If you have multiple accounts, you might like to switch the Folder view to the Universal view. This will combine the Inbox, Sent items, Deleted items and Junk items for all of your accounts in a single folder respectively. This is probably my favorite feature of Thunderbird, since I monitor several email accounts. Hope this helps. Jeff On 4/19/2018 12:09 PM, jerry martin wrote: Afternoon all. Can anyone instruct me in the procedure for getting to my folders i.e. junk, trash, etc.? I am using the current version of Thunderbird, JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks for any assistance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Folders in Thunderbird
Well, this might depend somewhat on your View settings, but one important key is F6. In some mail programs (e.g., Windows Mail) you use the tab key to toggle between folder view and list view. With Thunderbird, you use the F6 key for this purpose. In the View menu, you might prefer the Classic Layout. Also in the Layout option of the View menu, you will probably want to have the Folder pane checked. If you have multiple accounts, you might like to switch the Folder view to the Universal view. This will combine the Inbox, Sent items, Deleted items and Junk items for all of your accounts in a single folder respectively. This is probably my favorite feature of Thunderbird, since I monitor several email accounts. Hope this helps. Jeff On 4/19/2018 12:09 PM, jerry martin wrote: Afternoon all. Can anyone instruct me in the procedure for getting to my folders i.e. junk, trash, etc.? I am using the current version of Thunderbird, JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks for any assistance. Jerry For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] ThunderBird, CC, BCC and Subject
Jerry, If your focus is in the recipient's edit box and you backtab (shift-tab) you'll find yourself in a combo box. The default for this combo box is To: but you can choose Cc: or Bcc: from that combo box. If you want to add additional recipient addresses, just press the enter key when you're focused on the edit box. I hope this makes sense. Give it a try and ask again if you can't figure it out. Jeff On 4/23/2018 4:21 PM, jerry martin wrote: Evening all. I need to find out how, in Thunderbird, I can get to the CC and BCC edit boxes when composing a new email message. As it stands currently, After I select a recipient, and I press the Tab button, it automatically goes to the subject line. I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop with the current version of Thunderbird. Thanks in advance. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] trash in thunderbird
The status line should display both new and total messages in the selected folder. At least, that's how it works for me. So you can use insert-pagedown to read the status line. Jeff On 4/27/2018 5:55 AM, K M Davis wrote: Is there a way to have JAWS read the # of emails in the trashbin? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Questions about Chrome
First, is there a reader mode in Chrome? If so, how is it activated? Also, is there a keyboard shortcut to silence or mute a video that automatically plays on a web page? e.g., When I click on a tweet from CNN, it opens a web page and automatically begins playing a video. I just want to read the article. Is this possible? Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS
This is an interesting thread. The mention of laptops overheating and shutting down especially caught my attention. I thought I might be the only person in the world experiencing this problem, but I have 2 different laptops from different manufacturers which both exhibit this problem whenever they are called upon to do some real work, e.g., checking for Windows updates or scanning for viruses. I get nervous anytime I hear the fan ramp up and it's a constant frustration for me. I fail to understand why manufacturers design laptops this way. Why don't they back off the processing rather than shut down the computer? Is it that I have the power settings incorrectly configured? If so, can someone please tell me how to configure my laptop to avoid these shutdowns? I've not done much with the power settings. I've just left them at their defaults. Honestly, I don't know what most of those settings mean, so I've been reluctant to mess with them. Reading this thread convinces me there are some knowledgeable folks on this list who might be able to help me out with this issue. If you can, I'd be ever so grateful. Thanks, Jeff On 6/26/2018 2:55 PM, JM Casey wrote: Hello Aaron. Thanks for writing all that. I believe I understand, mostly. It's not a laptop, but a desktop machine. So, no battery. I've only really experienced overheat problems with laptops, but you might indeed be right about the components. Still, my girlfriend's laptop keeps shutting down for precisely this reason. Yes, I understand what you mean about it being ridiculous to have the computer operating at maximum clock when it doesn't need to. I suppose that is the whole point of "throttling". I think you gave me a clue as to why, even though I thought I had set the plan back to "balanced", the speed according to several diagnostics was still hanging around 3500 to 4100 mhz. I'm still trying to understand exactly how the power plans function. I was wondering about the processor state and what exactly I ought to do with it, if anything. I should probably leave the max at 100%; right now the minimum is 5% and, based on what you described, I think this should be ok. It's also worth noting that the fans in my PC did need a serious cleaning. My builder guy is always asking me to check the temps on my computer but I just figured that's the kind of guy he is and never bothered on a regular basis. I take it most people usually don't, until their computer starts acting weird or shutting itself off at high temperatures. I also realised how much of a drain JAWS + Vocalizer was on my system. I told him that now that I'm back on Eloquence, the difference is basically night and day. This system more than meets the listed requirements but the performance hit, now that I can actually see (and hear) the difference, was drastic. He doesn't really understand this, but he's never had to use or bother with a screen-reader himself; I believe he thinks it's a lot more basic than it actually is. Cheers and thanks for giving my message some thought. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List On Behalf Of Valiant8086 Sent: June 25, 2018 8:10 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS Hi. Try putting it back on balanced. You don't have a battery do you? there's no battery icon? If you do have such an icon, you should be able to press space on the icon in the system tray and you'll have a left right slider you can use to adjust the cpu's power consumption for better battery, better performance or best performance. You would want to see if you're on better performance. If not, selecting that will make the cpu spend more time clocked up, and be more eager to clock up to complete tasks, but won't force it to stand right at the max clock continuously. Btw, having the cpu stay that hot just cause it's running at max clock even if it remains under light load is rather ridiculous. Also, I'd be more worried about high temps like that in a desktop than I would a laptop. Desktop components may not handle high temps as handily as a laptop who's components are all likely built with higher temps in mind e.g. hdds. If you don't have a power icon tip you can get it to appear by plugging in a UPS that will support opperation with no drivers, it should appear as a battery and turn the platform role over to mobile. Lastly, you could experiment with minimum and maximum processor state. 1. open power options windows key+x, then o. 2. tab around to additional power settings link, hit that 3. tab a whole bunch of times to change power settings for the high performance power plan link, or what ever plan it is that you have now. Hit space on that. 4. Find the changed advanced power settings for the high performance power plan button, you may land right on it. Hit space on that. 5. in the resulting dialogue you'll be in a list of power plans, you'll probably b
Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS
Thanks for the suggestions. I saved your previous email, so I'll go back and take a look at that. One of the computers is running Vista, the other is running Windows 7 and neither have been reformatted, so the driver issue is unlikely. Plus, the Windows 7 computer had the problem from day one, even when not running JAWS or any screen reader. It was my sighted wife's computer and it would shut down sometimes while she was watching Netflix. She got so frustrated, she quit using the Windows computer altogether. She does everything on her iPad now. I have no idea what the temperatures are. I'll have to go find one of those programs that lets me check those values. Thanks again for the suggestions. Jeff On 6/27/2018 9:39 AM, Valiant8086 wrote: Hi. The only computer I had which actually powered off do to temp control issues was an HP Dm4. It had an intel core i5 first gen I believe. It would climb all the way up to 220 degrees. If it hit 221, *click*. What happens here is likely what I believe you refer to as a target junction or tj max for short. It's a max temp the cpu tollerates, if it reaches that, it abruptly powers off. The system should be employing throttling to prevent the cpu from reaching this point but it sounds like your laptops don't bother. TJ max varries, most modern core i processors like 212, intel atom processors were 198 or so, and btw I always speak in terms of degrees f, not celsius. So, I can think of two possibilities at this point. First is that the manufacturers of those machines assumed those machines would never potentially reach tj max while stressed and running at full wattage for ever. If that's the explanation that works, then your solution is to figure out why they do have that potential now. If the exhaust fans are getting clogged a few squirts of compressed air out of a can, not an air compressor may do the trick. I don't recommend an air compressor because it may blow rust or water along with the air and that delicate little fan in there could do without either of those. The other possibility is that the systems were in fact originally designed with software and drivers that would employ speed stepping or some other variation to do exactly what you said, throttle back the cpu when it is approaching tj max. That could probably be fixed by installing a missing system driver. If you've ever clean formatted the system this may be the problem. I suppose it might also be possible that an upgrade to windows 10, even if it was already on windows 10, accidentally nuked a driver that took care of this. I believe that usually the bios takes control of this when the OS doesn't, or doesn't even allow the OS to control it, but I'm also sure it's possible for that to be different. A really old Acer Aspire 3000+ laptop I had way back in the early 2000s used an AMD simpron 1.8ghz processor. It ran really hot all the time. On day I somehow discovered that I was missing a chipset driver or some software package like that which I never apparently installed after reformatting the system early on. That helped make it run a lot cooler, this was before I was into watching clock speeds with core temp and such. You could try setting the max processor state lower and see if your laptops run cooler, a previous email of mine in this thread explains that process. Lastly, you could run core temp and minimize it to try and check it frequently while you attempt to stress the laptops and see what temps are being realized, if they're staying reasonable but powering off then there's probably a different issue at play Cheers: Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"; On 6/27/2018 12:19 AM, Audiobookfan wrote: This is an interesting thread. The mention of laptops overheating and shutting down especially caught my attention. I thought I might be the only person in the world experiencing this problem, but I have 2 different laptops from different manufacturers which both exhibit this problem whenever they are called upon to do some real work, e.g., checking for Windows updates or scanning for viruses. I get nervous anytime I hear the fan ramp up and it's a constant frustration for me. I fail to understand why manufacturers design laptops this way. Why don't they back off the processing rather than shut down the computer? Is it that I have the power settings incorrectly configured? If so, can someone please tell me how to configure my laptop to avoid these shutdowns? I've not done much with the power settings. I've just left them at their defaults. Honestly, I don't know what most of those settings mean, so I've been reluctant to mess with them. Reading this thread convinces me there are so
[JAWS-Users] Disabling sticky keys
I'm using the latest version of JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 computer. When I press the right-shift key to skim through a document in say-all mode, a dialog pops up if I press the key too many times quickly. How do I disable this action? It's very annoying. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Disabling sticky keys
Thanks for the suggestion, but that checkbox was not checked. However, there was a link to setup sticky keys and when I clicked that a dialog came up where I could uncheck the checkbox to activate sticky keys with 5 quick presses of the shift key. So, your instructions got me to the right section, but one more step was needed. Thank you, Jeff On 7/9/2018 4:35 PM, Mike B. wrote: Hi Jeff, Check out the following, and how to permanently disable sticky keys is at the bottom: Sticky Keys explained: Sticky Keys, can be turned on / off by pressing the, Shift key, 5 times, quickly. If you press the Shifft Key 5 times quickly you will get a dialogue stating the following: Sticky Keys Do you want to turn on Sticky Keys? Sticky Keys lets you use the SHIFT, CTRL, ALT, or Windows Logo keys by pressing one key at a time. The keyboard shortcut to turn on Sticky Keys is to press the SHIFT key 5 times. In Windows 10 do the following to permanently disable sticky keys: 1. Open the Control Panel. 2. Navigate to the Ease of Access Center, and press enter to open. 3. Tab several times to, Make the keyboard easier to use, link, and press enter to open. 4. Tab to, Turn on sticky keys, and uncheck this checkbox by pressing the spacebar. 5. Tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab to, Okay, and press enter to save, and press Alt + F4 to close the control panel. Take Care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame. - Original Message - From: Audiobookfan To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 12:49 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Disabling sticky keys I'm using the latest version of JAWS 2018 on a Windows 10 computer. When I press the right-shift key to skim through a document in say-all mode, a dialog pops up if I press the key too many times quickly. How do I disable this action? It's very annoying. Thanks, Jeff For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
