Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
This is what I want to do. All others things from JSP are not very
much usefull within nukes. I've been browsing old website JSP and
95% of the time % % tags are used.
julien
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I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some
other popular Java based web scripting.
mf JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting
mf wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear from
mf Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will
mf personally work on him in Paris :)
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Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
Ohhh, any other PHP aliens outa there?
bax
PS: no smiley at all, honestly.
This is what I want to do. All others things from JSP are not very
much usefull within nukes. I've been browsing old website JSP and
95% of the time % % tags are used.
julien
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I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some
other popular Java based web scripting.
mf JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the
scripting
mf wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear
from
mf Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will
mf personally work on him in Paris :)
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Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote:
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
Ok, but what about JSTL?
tabletr
c:forEach var=i begin=0 end=4
tdc:out value=${i}//td
/c:forEach
/tr/table
Isn't such code a bit nicer?
And if you want to restrict users a little bit, you can
do it with Tag Library Validators (part of JSTL specs).
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Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
for me no. I don't like jsp tags.
PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote:
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
PK Ok, but what about JSTL?
PK tabletr
PK c:forEach var=i begin=0 end=4
PK tdc:out value=${i}//td
PK /c:forEach
PK /tr/table
PK Isn't such code a bit nicer?
PK And if you want to restrict users a little bit, you can
PK do it with Tag Library Validators (part of JSTL specs).
PK Pavel
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RE: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Julien, It is going to be hard enough to attract developers to Nukes, don't
make it harder by developing your own proprietary scripting language.
Bill
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Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
for me no. I don't like jsp tags.
PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote:
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
PK Ok, but what about JSTL?
PK tabletr
PK c:forEach var=i begin=0 end=4
PK tdc:out value=${i}//td
PK /c:forEach
PK /tr/table
PK Isn't such code a bit nicer?
PK And if you want to restrict users a little bit, you can
PK do it with Tag Library Validators (part of JSTL specs).
PK Pavel
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Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've
already done that.
However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's why
I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore.
Now I think JSP are the best things ever done.
julien
BB Julien, It is going to be hard enough to attract developers to Nukes, don't
BB make it harder by developing your own proprietary scripting language.
BB Bill
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Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
for me no. I don't like jsp tags.
PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote:
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
PK Ok, but what about JSTL?
PK tabletr
PK c:forEach var=i begin=0 end=4
PK tdc:out value=${i}//td
PK /c:forEach
PK /tr/table
PK Isn't such code a bit nicer?
PK And if you want to restrict users a little bit, you can
PK do it with Tag Library Validators (part of JSTL specs).
PK Pavel
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RE: Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. there you go then, However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore. Stop being such a choupette, it is anoying. Where is the can-do attitude? you need something done at the compiler with a massive classpath WE ALREADY SOLVED THAT PROBLEM FOR JETTY (Jules and Scott did). marcf --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
This is _not_ necessarily JSP. It could be the script lang of your
choice.
At absolutely least the 'jsp:' should be used to be XML compliant.
Any other approach should be treated with any respekt as (very fast ;-)
hacking.
bax
Am Dienstag, 01.04.03, um 18:23 Uhr (Europe/Budapest) schrieb Hunter
Hillegas:
Funny you mention this as your fave part cause most folks that do tons
of
JSP think this is one of the more evil parts of JSP...
From: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:39:33 +0200
To: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
This is what I want to do. All others things from JSP are not very
much usefull within nukes. I've been browsing old website JSP and
95% of the time % % tags are used.
julien
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Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some
other popular Java based web scripting.
mf JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the
scripting
mf wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear
from
mf Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will
mf personally work on him in Paris :)
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Re: Re[9]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Am Dienstag, 01.04.03, um 19:07 Uhr (Europe/Budapest) schrieb julien
viet:
I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've
already done that.
However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's why
I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore.
Now I think JSP are the best things ever done.
.. until someone invented tag libs and JSTL. Unusable in the long run
without them.
bax
julien
BB Julien, It is going to be hard enough to attract developers to
Nukes, don't
BB make it harder by developing your own proprietary scripting
language.
BB Bill
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Subject: Re[7]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
for me no. I don't like jsp tags.
PK On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, julien viet wrote:
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
PK Ok, but what about JSTL?
PK tabletr
PK c:forEach var=i begin=0 end=4
PK tdc:out value=${i}//td
PK /c:forEach
PK /tr/table
PK Isn't such code a bit nicer?
PK And if you want to restrict users a little bit, you can
PK do it with Tag Library Validators (part of JSTL specs).
PK Pavel
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Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. mf there you go then, However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore. mf Stop being such a choupette, it is anoying. Where is the can-do mf attitude? you need something done at the compiler with a massive mf classpath WE ALREADY SOLVED THAT PROBLEM FOR JETTY (Jules and Scott mf did). yeah I saw the code one day. I am not whinning :-) You want JSP, I'll do it no problems. JSP are files ** on the disk **, why because java compiler takes files on the disks. clearly nukes stores data in database. that's not incompatible I know. julien mf marcf mf --- mf This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: mf Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! mf No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server mf http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ mf ___ mf Jboss-development mailing list mf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mf https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
julien viet wrote: I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. JSP compilation is now functional again in Tomcat 4.1.x. I recommend you deploy your production webapps (Nukes, etc) with that and explicit mappings for the JSPs in web.xml. You can see all the docs here: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-4.1-doc/jasper-howto.html Remy --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] view of classes as far as I know. Its something to look into as another optimization/benefit of embedding the web container into JBoss. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: Re[11]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I can bend jasper compiler to compile JSP to java classes, I've already done that. mf there you go then, However compiling classes is a CLASSPATH nightmare. That's why I would like an in memory compiler. Not anymore. mf Stop being such a choupette, it is anoying. Where is the can-do mf attitude? you need something done at the compiler with a massive mf classpath WE ALREADY SOLVED THAT PROBLEM FOR JETTY (Jules and Scott mf did). yeah I saw the code one day. I am not whinning :-) You want JSP, I'll do it no problems. JSP are files ** on the disk **, why because java compiler takes files on the disks. clearly nukes stores data in database. that's not incompatible I know. julien --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] view of classes as far as I know. Its something to look into as another optimization/benefit of embedding the web container into JBoss. I don't see how you can do that. The problem is the Java compiler (there's already a JSR for that already, ETA is for Tiger). I recommed using JSP compilation to just get rid of the compilation crap at runtime. I think we should eventually recommend in the docs that people do that during the deployment process of the webapp. Remy --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
So get another compiler. We don't need no stinking JSR. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] view of classes as far as I know. Its something to look into as another optimization/benefit of embedding the web container into JBoss. I don't see how you can do that. The problem is the Java compiler (there's already a JSR for that already, ETA is for Tiger). I recommed using JSP compilation to just get rid of the compilation crap at runtime. I think we should eventually recommend in the docs that people do that during the deployment process of the webapp. Remy --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 04:39 AM, julien viet wrote:
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
I love scriptlets also, because they make the page code to easy read
and understand. Even the most entry level html writer can write the
basic java code, and it sure beats the following
table
c:forEach var=product items=${products}
tr
tdc:out value=${product.name}//td
tdc:out value=${product.price}//td
/tr
/c:forEach
/table
See what I mean. Tags are just overhead when you can use scriptlets.
-dain
BTW, yes that was sarcasm.
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Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I forwarded the contact info at the 2 java compiler projects onto Julien. Both support passing in a class loader from which classes will be obtained. One of the projects has a licensing issue (GPL), but they may be willing to change. The other project does not full implement the language spec, but may have enough for JSP. -dain On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 01:29 PM, Scott M Stark wrote: So get another compiler. We don't need no stinking JSR. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming Scott M Stark wrote: We really have not looked into tweaking the jsp compiler layer to see if the filesystem requirement can be replaced by an input stream or byte[] view of classes as far as I know. Its something to look into as another optimization/benefit of embedding the web container into JBoss. I don't see how you can do that. The problem is the Java compiler (there's already a JSR for that already, ETA is for Tiger). I recommed using JSP compilation to just get rid of the compilation crap at runtime. I think we should eventually recommend in the docs that people do that during the deployment process of the webapp. Remy --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I don't know what JDT is. It was not I who suggested it. The JDT page says: http://www.eclipse.org/jdt/index.html The JDT project provides the tool plug-ins that implement a Java IDE supporting the development of any Java application, including Eclipse plug-ins. It adds a Java project nature and Java perspective to the Eclipse Workbench as well as a number of views, editors, wizards, builders, and code merging and refactoring tools. The JDT project allows Eclipse to be a development environment for itself. Not obviously an in memory compiler, but maybe in there somewhere. Scott Stark Chief Technology Officer JBoss Group, LLC - Original Message - From: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 11:45 AM Subject: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming what is supposed to be eclipse JDT ? SMS So get another compiler. We don't need no stinking JSR. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Funny you mention this as your fave part cause most folks that do tons of
JSP think this is one of the more evil parts of JSP...
From: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2003 12:39:33 +0200
To: marc fleury [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re[6]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I dont't want to reinvent a scripting language, but JSP are
not adapted to nukes at all. I think the nicest feature of
JSP is the possibility to embed true java code whithin text :
TABLETR
% for (int i = 0;i 5;i++) { %
TD%= i %/TD
% } %
/TR
/TABLE
This is what I want to do. All others things from JSP are not very
much usefull within nukes. I've been browsing old website JSP and
95% of the time % % tags are used.
julien
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I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some
other popular Java based web scripting.
mf JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting
mf wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear from
mf Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will
mf personally work on him in Paris :)
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RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular Java based web scripting. JSP is clearly the way to go. We will fail if we reinvent the scripting wheel. Let people port to JBoss with existing pages. All I hear from Julien is lame-ass whining on the compiler and such... :) I will personally work on him in Paris :) marcf --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: ValueWeb: Dedicated Hosting for just $79/mo with 500 GB of bandwidth! No other company gives more support or power for your dedicated server http://click.atdmt.com/AFF/go/sdnxxaff00300020aff/direct/01/ ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Yeah. JSP would be good cause it's a common skill set, has a lot of available tools and extensions (JSTL, etc...) and is a proven tech. From: Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 10:52:08 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I'd really prefer JSP integration or integration with some other popular Java based web scripting. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of julien viet Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 3:57 PM To: marc fleury Subject: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming yes that's a good idea and I was thinking about it. Dain could you send me details and contact infos ? A generic compiling service in jboss could be very usefull. That + AOP could make wonders. julien mf julien, mf why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the compiler for mf NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? mf marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the contact info. -dain On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: Hello Marcel, Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are resources MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that would help. MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and extension MA classes needed to use it at: http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it MA simple and self hosting. MA Hope this helps. MA Regards, MA Marcel Ammerlaan -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development mf --- mf This SF.net email is sponsored by: mf The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! mf NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! mf http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en mf ___ mf Jboss-development mailing list mf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mf https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https
Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. --jason On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet wrote: sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv it's mono powered. jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have jv to get more credibility for that. jv julien jv --- jv This SF.net email is sponsored by: jv The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! jv NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! jv http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en jv ___ jv Jboss-development mailing list jv [EMAIL PROTECTED] jv https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry about theses kinds of things. JD Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. JD --jason JD On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet wrote: sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv it's mono powered. jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have jv to get more credibility for that. jv julien jv --- jv This SF.net email is sponsored by: jv The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! jv NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! jv http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en jv ___ jv Jboss-development mailing list jv [EMAIL PROTECTED] jv https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development JD --- JD This SF.net email is sponsored by: JD The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! JD NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! JD http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en JD ___ JD Jboss-development mailing list JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now. It just looks like it will allow them to write better software. I spent the past 2 weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for features like namespaces, exceptions and proper handling of object references. So the changes are welcome in my mind. But really anything to make PHP less like perl and more like Java/.NET is welcome. Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language with its rich extensions and apis. --jason On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 04:02 PM, julien viet wrote: not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry about theses kinds of things. JD Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. JD --jason JD On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet wrote: sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv it's mono powered. jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have jv to get more credibility for that. jv julien jv --- jv This SF.net email is sponsored by: jv The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! jv NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! jv http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en jv ___ jv Jboss-development mailing list jv [EMAIL PROTECTED] jv https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development JD --- JD This SF.net email is sponsored by: JD The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! JD NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! JD http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en JD ___ JD Jboss-development mailing list JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
JD It is certainly possible, though it does not look like the new features JD will inhibit PHP folks from coding they way they do now. It just looks JD like it will allow them to write better software. I spent the past 2 JD weeks writing a PHP application and over and over I wished for features JD like namespaces, exceptions and proper handling of object references. JD So the changes are welcome in my mind. But really anything to make PHP JD less like perl and more like Java/.NET is welcome. They will keep compatibility. JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. JD --jason JD On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 04:02 PM, julien viet wrote: not sure they will keep php community whith them. for me php success is settled on the fact php scripters don't have to worry about theses kinds of things. JD Looks like Java Meets PHP with some .NET flavoring. I like it. JD --jason JD On Saturday, March 29, 2003, at 04:56 PM, julien viet wrote: sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv it's mono powered. jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have jv to get more credibility for that. jv julien jv --- jv This SF.net email is sponsored by: jv The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! jv NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! jv http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en jv ___ jv Jboss-development mailing list jv [EMAIL PROTECTED] jv https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development JD --- JD This SF.net email is sponsored by: JD The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! JD NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! JD http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en JD ___ JD Jboss-development mailing list JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development JD --- JD This SF.net email is sponsored by: JD The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! JD NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! JD http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en JD ___ JD Jboss-development mailing list JD [EMAIL PROTECTED] JD https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are resources to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and extension classes needed to use it at: http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it simple and self hosting. Hope this helps. Regards, Marcel Ammerlaan -- Don't let people drive you crazy when you know it's in walking distance --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
Hello Marcel, Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are resources MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that would help. MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and extension MA classes needed to use it at: http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it MA simple and self hosting. MA Hope this helps. MA Regards, MA Marcel Ammerlaan -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that would help. We need JSP like scripting for NUKES, otherwise it will be very difficult to write advanced stuff in it. Let's take the forums to drive it. marcf --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the contact info. -dain On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: Hello Marcel, Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are resources MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that would help. MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and extension MA classes needed to use it at: http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it MA simple and self hosting. MA Hope this helps. MA Regards, MA Marcel Ammerlaan -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
RE: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
julien, why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the compiler for NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the contact info. -dain On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: Hello Marcel, Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are resources MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that would help. MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and extension MA classes needed to use it at: http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it MA simple and self hosting. MA Hope this helps. MA Regards, MA Marcel Ammerlaan -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
yes that's a good idea and I was thinking about it. Dain could you send me details and contact infos ? A generic compiling service in jboss could be very usefull. That + AOP could make wonders. julien mf julien, mf why don't you try to bring some of these guys in to do the compiler for mf NUKES? JSP like writing for advanced programmatic modules? mf marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dain Sundstrom Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 2:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming I talked with 2 compiler projects after JBoss boot camp and both were interested in being integrated, but I dropped the ball and got busy on some other stuff. If anyone is interested in this I can send you the contact info. -dain On Sunday, March 30, 2003, at 10:37 AM, julien viet wrote: Hello Marcel, Sunday, March 30, 2003, 6:23:38 PM, you wrote: MA julien viet wrote ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) JD Though now that I think about it I would prefer that Java was more like JD PHP in the sense of a light weight web application development language JD with its rich extensions and apis. we discussed with Dain at boot camp and we wished having a way to dynamic compile a class, I mean with a java compiler written in java and taking class def from a classloader. That would enable a compilation service in jboss. Would be great for nukes. Kopi compiler is written in 100% java and could be modified to achieve such results though I don't know about its license. MA I did this for the PizzaCompiler as part of getting Cocoon to work MA without a JDK (only a JRE needed). For Pizza this is relatively MA easy as it has pluggable resource-loaders (.class files are resources MA to the compiler). The pizza compiler can be found at: cool, it could help for module or block scripting in Nukes, i.e get code class - fully generate class - compile it - generate xmbeam - deploy it pluggable resource loader is very helpfull, I don't know if we can have bytes of class through unified classloaders but that would help. MA http://pizzacompiler.sourceforge.net/ MA I placed the sources for the pizza-loader and some wrapper and extension MA classes needed to use it at: http://www.artefact.nl/pizza-loader.zip MA I stripped of some extra's and commented out some lines to keep it MA simple and self hosting. MA Hope this helps. MA Regards, MA Marcel Ammerlaan -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development mf --- mf This SF.net email is sponsored by: mf The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! mf NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! mf http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en mf ___ mf Jboss-development mailing list mf [EMAIL PROTECTED] mf https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. it's mono powered. it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have to get more credibility for that. julien --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] php5 is coming
sorry I gave a wrong link : http://talks.php.net/show/php5intro jv have a look at the new php 5 : http://talks.php.net jv they added : exceptions, modifiers, interfaces, abstract, namespaces and more. jv it's mono powered. jv it seems that now they want to reach enterprise level and have jv to get more credibility for that. jv julien jv --- jv This SF.net email is sponsored by: jv The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! jv NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! jv http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en jv ___ jv Jboss-development mailing list jv [EMAIL PROTECTED] jv https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Best regards, julienmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
