Re: [LU] NON-LU - Michael Benjamin?

[Roy Blackwell via Leedslist]

Thanks Steve

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023, 13:33 seanscribe--- via Leedslist, <
leedslist@gn.apc.org> wrote:

>  I too was wondering how he was doing. Thanks for reaching out to him
> confirm.
> Cheers!
> Sean
>
> On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 04:58:16 AM EDT, Steve Gillen <
> sjgil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi all..
>
> I wrote to Mike on Saturday evening enquiring after his situation and that
> of his family and close friends. He replied the next day that he is ok and
> that he and his family are not in Gaza and for the moment quite safe. He
> had his standard, and in the circumstances quite understandable, short rant
> about the situation, and more personally how he finds it difficult and
> embarrassing interacting with his Arab secretary, whom he likes and
> respects a great deal. He was comforted by the fact that people outside of
> his locality are moved to show concern for him. He also mentioned that he
> saw Saturdays game and still thinks we are not good enough, but a win is
> still a win 路‍♂️
>
> With permission, I shall let Mike know people here have been asking after
> his safety.
>
> Steve Gillen
>
> > On 10 Oct 2023, at 03:43, Peter Castlehouse 
> wrote:
> >
> > It's been a few days since the chaos in Israel started, and I would
> presume
> > that communications channels would be severely compromised throughout
> > Israel, but the lack of news about Michael Benjamin's welfare is
> deafening.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael, if this gets through to you, please let us know if you're okay?
> >
> > And, if anyone has any updates, I for one would appreciate anything!
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Peter C
> > the old un'
> >
> >
> >
> > Pete Castlehouse
> >
> > 355 Darling Street
> >
> > DUBBO  NSW  2830
> >
> > 0438 856 080
> >
> >
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Re: [LU] NON-LU - Michael Benjamin?

[seanscribe--- via Leedslist]

 I too was wondering how he was doing. Thanks for reaching out to him confirm.
Cheers!
Sean

On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 04:58:16 AM EDT, Steve Gillen 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi all..

I wrote to Mike on Saturday evening enquiring after his situation and that of 
his family and close friends. He replied the next day that he is ok and that he 
and his family are not in Gaza and for the moment quite safe. He had his 
standard, and in the circumstances quite understandable, short rant about the 
situation, and more personally how he finds it difficult and embarrassing 
interacting with his Arab secretary, whom he likes and respects a great deal. 
He was comforted by the fact that people outside of his locality are moved to 
show concern for him. He also mentioned that he saw Saturdays game and still 
thinks we are not good enough, but a win is still a win 路‍♂️

With permission, I shall let Mike know people here have been asking after his 
safety.

Steve Gillen

> On 10 Oct 2023, at 03:43, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
> 
> It's been a few days since the chaos in Israel started, and I would presume
> that communications channels would be severely compromised throughout
> Israel, but the lack of news about Michael Benjamin's welfare is deafening.
> 
> 
> 
> Michael, if this gets through to you, please let us know if you're okay?
> 
> And, if anyone has any updates, I for one would appreciate anything!
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter C
> the old un'
> 
> 
> 
> Pete Castlehouse
> 
> 355 Darling Street
> 
> DUBBO  NSW  2830
> 
> 0438 856 080
> 
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Re: [LU] NON-LU - Michael Benjamin?

[Steve Gillen]

Hi all..

I wrote to Mike on Saturday evening enquiring after his situation and that of 
his family and close friends. He replied the next day that he is ok and that he 
and his family are not in Gaza and for the moment quite safe. He had his 
standard, and in the circumstances quite understandable, short rant about the 
situation, and more personally how he finds it difficult and embarrassing 
interacting with his Arab secretary, whom he likes and respects a great deal. 
He was comforted by the fact that people outside of his locality are moved to 
show concern for him. He also mentioned that he saw Saturdays game and still 
thinks we are not good enough, but a win is still a win 路‍♂️

With permission, I shall let Mike know people here have been asking after his 
safety.

Steve Gillen

> On 10 Oct 2023, at 03:43, Peter Castlehouse  wrote:
> 
> It's been a few days since the chaos in Israel started, and I would presume
> that communications channels would be severely compromised throughout
> Israel, but the lack of news about Michael Benjamin's welfare is deafening.
> 
> 
> 
> Michael, if this gets through to you, please let us know if you're okay?
> 
> And, if anyone has any updates, I for one would appreciate anything!
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Peter C
> the old un'
> 
> 
> 
> Pete Castlehouse
> 
> 355 Darling Street
> 
> DUBBO   NSW   2830
> 
> 0438 856 080
> 
> 
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Re: [LU] NON-LU - Michael Benjamin?

[Guy Bonello]

I believe he unsubscribed to this list a few days after quitting the
Whatsapp group in a huff after the S'ton match

On Tue, 10 Oct 2023 at 04:43, Peter Castlehouse 
wrote:

> It's been a few days since the chaos in Israel started, and I would presume
> that communications channels would be severely compromised throughout
> Israel, but the lack of news about Michael Benjamin's welfare is deafening.
>
>
>
> Michael, if this gets through to you, please let us know if you're okay?
>
> And, if anyone has any updates, I for one would appreciate anything!
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Peter C
> the old un'
>
>
>
> Pete Castlehouse
>
> 355 Darling Street
>
> DUBBO   NSW   2830
>
> 0438 856 080
>
>
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[LU] NON-LU - Michael Benjamin?

[Peter Castlehouse]

It's been a few days since the chaos in Israel started, and I would presume
that communications channels would be severely compromised throughout
Israel, but the lack of news about Michael Benjamin's welfare is deafening.

 

Michael, if this gets through to you, please let us know if you're okay?

And, if anyone has any updates, I for one would appreciate anything!

 

Regards

Peter C
the old un'

 

Pete Castlehouse

355 Darling Street

DUBBO   NSW   2830

0438 856 080

 

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Re: [LU] [NON LU] Techies on the list

[John Boocock]

Hi Pete,

The till is connected via the local network (ethernet)

I have sent an email to the supplier asking for their view too (pound to 
a penny they will tell me that they told all customers to upgrade ages 
ago - my pal's company are not exactly in the same time zone as the rest 
of the known world)


Cheers matey.

PS just remembered to ad NON to the LU :-)

On 20/09/2021 23:17, Peter Castlehouse wrote:

Hey John,

Just a thought, but is the till linked to the main PC via USB port?  W10 has a 
feature for the USB whereby inactive USB connections are shut off.  Happens to 
me with my CNC machine connected via USB port, and that results in the CNC 
machine not receiving the machine coded GRBL to continue.

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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

[johnbarber]

Wow.
Is this this summer's curry house thread?
Anyone finding that photocopiers are becoming equally redundant?
I'm frequently being sent documents photo'd by people's smartphones.

NB: The BBC reporting that Leeds are two up in the Olympics today.

JB


-Original Message-
From: Graham White  
Sent: 25 July 2021 15:47
To: Leeds List 
Subject: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

Back in the day before we had photocopiers - yes Junior, there once was such a 
time - we duplicated handouts, newsletters etc. on a machine with a rotating 
drum (I think).
What was the machine and the process called. Can't remember at all.
Cheers
Graham
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

[Richard Naef]

Yup Roneo Vickers was the make I remember -Duplicator was the type of machine I 
believe

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Roneo?

Dr Richard Raine
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Back in the day before we had photocopiers - yes Junior, there once was such a 
time - we duplicated handouts, newsletters etc. on a machine with a rotating 
drum (I think).
What was the machine and the process called. Can't remember at all.
Cheers
Graham
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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

[Alec McQueen]

I used a Gestetner.
Cheers
Alec

On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 at 04:23, john  wrote:

> Copier/printing machine. Only used by people older than me. See also
> Fordigraph. :-)Sent from the passenger seat of an imaginary Austin A40..
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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

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Copier/printing machine. Only used by people older than me. See also 
Fordigraph. :-)Sent from the passenger seat of an imaginary Austin A40..
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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

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Was it a Gestetner?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

[Robert Heath]

In my time.before we had photocopiers we would take something
down to the scribe who had a desk set up outside the temple.

Bandas, mimeographspshaw! Call yoursen old fogies?!

On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 4:57 PM Hedley Shaw  wrote:

> Banda machine
>
> Hedley
>
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> Leedslist" 
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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

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Banda machine

Hedley

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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

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I though it was called a mimeograph?

> On 25 Jul 2021, at 16:38, Graham Palmer  wrote:
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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

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Banda - a quick google reveals it is spirit duplication
Graham P

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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

[Richard Raine via Leedslist]

Roneo?

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Back in the day before we had photocopiers - yes Junior, there once was such a 
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What was the machine and the process called. Can't remember at all.
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Re: [LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

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Hi Graham
Sounds like a banda machine! Not sure what the process was called but 
the main outcome was purple hands for days after using one.

Jonathan
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Back in the day before we had photocopiers - yes Junior, there once was 
such a time - we duplicated handouts, newsletters etc. on a machine with 
a rotating drum (I think).


What was the machine and the process called. Can't remember at all.

Cheers

Graham

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[LU] Non-Lu: Calling old fogies.

[Graham White via Leedslist]

Back in the day before we had photocopiers - yes Junior, there once was such a 
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drum (I think).
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[LU] NON LU - ZOOM

[nattan--- via Leedslist]

I am trying to run cub meetings via zoom, but I only have a Samsung tablet. 
This only allows me to see 4 room participants at a time , no way ( that I know 
of getting gallery view)The game we play may need kids to be 'first' to do 
something so i need to be able to see everyone
Any suggestions as to how i can sort this without buying a new ( or used) 
laptop?
Dave
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[LU] Non LU - spam emails

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Just a heads up - I just got an email from Dave Walmsley, but it was one of 
those sneaky adopt a sender spam messages, so beware of rogue messages.

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Re: [LU] Non LU - Cup finals

[John Lee via Leedslist]

Beaten by THE only really decent team in Superleague this season. Seeing 
Salford knock out the pie-eaters and Cas was surely reward enough? 

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> On 13 Oct 2019, at 09:47, Robert Heath  wrote:
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> Your problem is obvious...you are backing awful teams (with one
> exception, obvs.)
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>> On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:50 AM nat...@sky.com  wrote:
>> 
>> Well I kept up my record of never seeing my team win a final yesterday
>> when I went to watch Salford lose to st helens
>> Second time I have seen Salford lose a final (Lancashire cup a good few
>> years ago)
>> I have seen lancs ccc lose at Lords in a one dayer and as for Leeds
>> United!  Villa in league cup and then the 3 play off final defeats ,
>> Charlton,  Watford and Doncaster
>> Not a great record,  although at least Salford gave it their best shot,
>> just beaten by a better team
>> Dave
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Re: [LU] Non LU - Cup finals

[Robert Heath]

Your problem is obvious...you are backing awful teams (with one
exception, obvs.)

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 9:50 AM nat...@sky.com  wrote:

> Well I kept up my record of never seeing my team win a final yesterday
> when I went to watch Salford lose to st helens
> Second time I have seen Salford lose a final (Lancashire cup a good few
> years ago)
> I have seen lancs ccc lose at Lords in a one dayer and as for Leeds
> United!  Villa in league cup and then the 3 play off final defeats ,
> Charlton,  Watford and Doncaster
> Not a great record,  although at least Salford gave it their best shot,
> just beaten by a better team
> Dave
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[LU] Non LU - Cup finals

[nat...@sky.com]

Well I kept up my record of never seeing my team win a final yesterday when I 
went to watch Salford lose to st helens 
Second time I have seen Salford lose a final (Lancashire cup a good few years 
ago)
I have seen lancs ccc lose at Lords in a one dayer and as for Leeds United!  
Villa in league cup and then the 3 play off final defeats , Charlton,  Watford 
and Doncaster
Not a great record,  although at least Salford gave it their best shot, just 
beaten by a better team
Dave
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Re: [LU] Non LU: Stop Adolf Johnson

[Richard Walker via Leedslist]

 Sorry couldn't make it - I had some knitting to finish. 
On Wednesday, 28 August 2019, 16:15:24 BST, Robert Heath 
 wrote:  
 
 *The Leeds for Europe group is planning a protest in the city’s City Square
for Thursday evening at 5.30pm.*

(Europe may be thinking a bit too far ahead, but "Leeds for the Premier
League" would be a good start!)

Seriously..we must all act now to save democracy.yes, even
you Rich Walker!
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Re: [LU] Non LU: Stop Adolf Johnson

[Richard Naef]

No, it's perfectly normal for parliament to be closed around the time of the 
most significant decision to be made since the Iraq war.  Alexander Boris de 
Pfeffel Johnson voted for that as well.

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From: Leedslist  on behalf of Nick Allen 

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Cc: Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU: Stop Adolf Johnson

Seconded...this is taking back control to the times when feudal lords ran the 
show.

Sent from my iPad

> On 28 Aug 2019, at 16:01, Robert Heath  wrote:
>
> *The Leeds for Europe group is planning a protest in the city’s City Square
> for Thursday evening at 5.30pm.*
>
> (Europe may be thinking a bit too far ahead, but "Leeds for the Premier
> League" would be a good start!)
>
> Seriously..we must all act now to save democracy.yes, even
> you Rich Walker!
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Re: [LU] Non LU: Stop Adolf Johnson

[Nick Allen]

Seconded...this is taking back control to the times when feudal lords ran the 
show.

Sent from my iPad

> On 28 Aug 2019, at 16:01, Robert Heath  wrote:
> 
> *The Leeds for Europe group is planning a protest in the city’s City Square
> for Thursday evening at 5.30pm.*
> 
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> League" would be a good start!)
> 
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[LU] Non LU: Stop Adolf Johnson

[Robert Heath]

*The Leeds for Europe group is planning a protest in the city’s City Square
for Thursday evening at 5.30pm.*

(Europe may be thinking a bit too far ahead, but "Leeds for the Premier
League" would be a good start!)

Seriously..we must all act now to save democracy.yes, even
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Re: [LU] non LU - VAR & offside

[Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)]

Hi all,
I think we should let VAR settle down first before we start making too many 
changes.

If we accept the accuracy of the technology in the case of small offside 
decisions, which I think I do, I would say you are better off being 100% 
correct than deciding whether or not it is within acceptable margins.
If the other night's goal had been given against Leeds in an important match in 
spite of VAR evidence I would have been pissed off.

The cricket analogy is not quite accurate, as the 'Umpire's Call' allowance is 
being used because of the possible errors in a predictive technology.

VAR will also need some adjustment from spectators.  I remember when it was 
brought in in Rugby Union.  Tries that would previously have been unquestioned 
started being disallowed because of incorrect grounding and the like.  The 
traditional fans bemoaned the rules taking over the spirit of the game at the 
time, but it is by and large accepted now.

I think the increase in the 'soft' Penalties that Jeremy alluded to will change 
things much more than getting offside decisions right, however close they are!

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[LU] non lu var. Fwd: Rules taking over the game

[Mark Pilling]

totally agreedas I wrote to f365 last month:



Sad.

I fear we are becoming rule chasers, forgetting the game we used to love.
Really, did the 'handball' that gave Liverpool the Champions League deserve
to be punished with a goal? It was a maybe cross that touched his arm. Give
them a free kick if you have to give something.
And then, Lingard's boot was a centimetre ahead of the Dutch back line.
Gaining an advantage? Was he ahead of the defence? A few years ago, to get
a bit of the spirit of the game back, they talked about daylight between
the attacker and the defenders.  Where was the spirit in calling tonight's
'goal' offside?

All for VAR and getting decisions right, but we should beware of letting
the rules overtake the game.

Cheers
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Re: [LU] non LU - VAR & offside

[Jeremy Adams]

Yes I don't understand why they just don't use the clear and obvious error 
factor. Cameroon's goal being ruled out against England was ridiculous, as was 
England's being ruled out yesterday. The penalty we got was also very soft to 
be honest, I'm not sure the US defender could do much about getting her leg out 
of the way of whatshername pulling her foot back to shoot.
I'm no luddite either but VAR is killing the spontaneity of the game. I realize 
the getting calls correct can be of paramount importance but part of the joy of 
this game is it's "humanness" the fact that its strewn with errors (both by 
players and officials) amongst moments of pure beauty is what makes it so 
fascinating. This insistence on "being right" is making football a little bit 
like talking to the really annoying person we all know who has an answer for 
everything, it just kills any enjoyment.

Jeremy

From: Leedslist  on behalf of 
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To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU - VAR & offside

I think they should adopt a cricket-like approach.  If the VAR shows that they 
are only just offside, like the "big toe" scenario, then it should go with the 
officials' original decision.  Only if it is clearly offside (above a certain 
margin - maybe 20cm?) should they use VAR to overrule the decision.  And maybe 
allow less leeway on things incorrectly ruled offside by the assistant referee, 
to give the attacking side more chance.

Nigel
(the Dublin, and now Irish(!) one)

On 3 Jul 2019 at 10:26, nat...@sky.com wrote:

> Watching the womens semi final last night it made me even more
> convinced that if they are going to use VAR for offside decisions they
> need to tweak the offside rule Both v Cameroon when it went for
> England and last night when it went against them the decision to
> overrule a goal due to the striker being offside by an inch (in the Cameroon 
> game she was facing the 'wrong way') I thought that this was bad for the game 
> in general Quite often when a player is out wide and is offside the 'expert' 
> summariser will say that it is bad football since that player can look right 
> down the line and judge his run.That is fine when he gets ahead of the 
> defence but it is impossible for a player who is 'level' to judge if any 
> relevant part of his body is ahead of the defender Most recent rule changes 
> have had the intention (albeit sometimes the opposite result) of speeding the 
> game up and making it more likely for teams to have chances and thus more 
> exciting and entertainingThis offside by an inch via VAR will have the 
> opposite effect , with really good , well worked goals being chalked off. 
> Last night, for example was a lovely flick through, a well timed run and good 
> finish and yet ruled out because her big toe was in front of the defenders 
> big toe Surely if they are going to use VAR for this the rule should be (as 
> linesmen were told the other year) to only be offside if there is 'clear 
> daylight' between the attacker and the defender - this will give both players 
> the ability tom judge when to make a run / when to hold a line etc. It will 
> still penalise a player for gaining an advantage by being ahead of the 
> defenders but not penalise someone who is to all intents and purposes 'level'
> Problem solved
> Still do not like VAR in its present format - they should really stick
> to the 'clear and obvious mistake' - one that a single quick review ,
> done in seconds will sort out Dave
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Re: [LU] non LU - VAR & offside

[nigel]

I think they should adopt a cricket-like approach.  If the VAR shows that they 
are only just offside, like the "big toe" scenario, then it should go with the 
officials' original decision.  Only if it is clearly offside (above a certain 
margin - maybe 20cm?) should they use VAR to overrule the decision.  And maybe 
allow less leeway on things incorrectly ruled offside by the assistant referee, 
to give the attacking side more chance.

Nigel
(the Dublin, and now Irish(!) one)

On 3 Jul 2019 at 10:26, nat...@sky.com wrote:

> Watching the womens semi final last night it made me even more 
> convinced that if they are going to use VAR for offside decisions they 
> need to tweak the offside rule Both v Cameroon when it went for 
> England and last night when it went against them the decision to 
> overrule a goal due to the striker being offside by an inch (in the Cameroon 
> game she was facing the 'wrong way') I thought that this was bad for the game 
> in general Quite often when a player is out wide and is offside the 'expert' 
> summariser will say that it is bad football since that player can look right 
> down the line and judge his run.That is fine when he gets ahead of the 
> defence but it is impossible for a player who is 'level' to judge if any 
> relevant part of his body is ahead of the defender Most recent rule changes 
> have had the intention (albeit sometimes the opposite result) of speeding the 
> game up and making it more likely for teams to have chances and thus more 
> exciting and entertainingThis offside by an inch via VAR will have the 
> opposite effect , with really good , well worked goals being chalked off. 
> Last night, for example was a lovely flick through, a well timed run and good 
> finish and yet ruled out because her big toe was in front of the defenders 
> big toe Surely if they are going to use VAR for this the rule should be (as 
> linesmen were told the other year) to only be offside if there is 'clear 
> daylight' between the attacker and the defender - this will give both players 
> the ability tom judge when to make a run / when to hold a line etc. It will 
> still penalise a player for gaining an advantage by being ahead of the 
> defenders but not penalise someone who is to all intents and purposes 'level'
> Problem solved
> Still do not like VAR in its present format - they should really stick 
> to the 'clear and obvious mistake' - one that a single quick review , 
> done in seconds will sort out Dave 
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Re: [LU] non LU - VAR & offside

[Guy Thornton]

Absolutely agree with you Dave.
Offside needs clarifying/redefining. As you say 'clear daylight' and not a toe 
or part of a foot ahead.
Equally why they need to refer to VAR when a decision is quite clear and 
obvious. I've seen quite clear and 
blatant penalties yet the ref felt she had to refer to VAR to justify her 
decision.

Not being a luddite and against VAR. Just there needs to be more though given 
as to how and when it's used.

guy

On 3 Jul 2019 at 10:26, nat...@sky.com wrote:

> Watching the womens semi final last night it made me even more convinced that 
> if they are going to use VAR for offside decisions they need to tweak the 
> offside rule
> Both v Cameroon when it went for England and last night when it went against 
> them the decision to overrule a goal due to the striker being offside by an 
> inch (in the Cameroon game she was facing the 'wrong way') I thought that 
> this was bad for the game in general
> Quite often when a player is out wide and is offside the 'expert' summariser 
> will say that it is bad football since that player can look right down the 
> line and judge his run.That is fine when he gets ahead of the defence but it 
> is impossible for a player who is 'level' to judge if any relevant part of 
> his body is ahead of the defender
> Most recent rule changes have had the intention (albeit sometimes the 
> opposite result) of speeding the game up and making it more likely for teams 
> to have chances and thus more exciting and entertainingThis offside by an 
> inch via VAR will have the opposite effect , with really good , well worked 
> goals being chalked off. Last night, for example was a lovely flick through, 
> a well timed run and good finish and yet ruled out because her big toe was in 
> front of the defenders big toe
> Surely if they are going to use VAR for this the rule should be (as linesmen 
> were told the other year) to only be offside if there is 'clear daylight' 
> between the attacker and the defender - this will give both players the 
> ability tom judge when to make a run / when to hold a line etc. It will still 
> penalise a player for gaining an advantage by being ahead of the defenders 
> but not penalise someone who is to all intents and purposes 'level'
> Problem solved
> Still do not like VAR in its present format - they should really stick to the 
> 'clear and obvious mistake' - one that a single quick review , done in 
> seconds will sort out
> Dave
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[LU] non LU - VAR & offside

[nat...@sky.com]

Watching the womens semi final last night it made me even more convinced that 
if they are going to use VAR for offside decisions they need to tweak the 
offside rule
Both v Cameroon when it went for England and last night when it went against 
them the decision to overrule a goal due to the striker being offside by an 
inch (in the Cameroon game she was facing the 'wrong way') I thought that this 
was bad for the game in general
Quite often when a player is out wide and is offside the 'expert' summariser 
will say that it is bad football since that player can look right down the line 
and judge his run.That is fine when he gets ahead of the defence but it is 
impossible for a player who is 'level' to judge if any relevant part of his 
body is ahead of the defender
Most recent rule changes have had the intention (albeit sometimes the opposite 
result) of speeding the game up and making it more likely for teams to have 
chances and thus more exciting and entertainingThis offside by an inch via VAR 
will have the opposite effect , with really good , well worked goals being 
chalked off. Last night, for example was a lovely flick through, a well timed 
run and good finish and yet ruled out because her big toe was in front of the 
defenders big toe
Surely if they are going to use VAR for this the rule should be (as linesmen 
were told the other year) to only be offside if there is 'clear daylight' 
between the attacker and the defender - this will give both players the ability 
tom judge when to make a run / when to hold a line etc. It will still penalise 
a player for gaining an advantage by being ahead of the defenders but not 
penalise someone who is to all intents and purposes 'level'
Problem solved
Still do not like VAR in its present format - they should really stick to the 
'clear and obvious mistake' - one that a single quick review , done in seconds 
will sort out
Dave
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Re: [LU] Non-LU: Techie help needed

[errand.fivefold via Leedslist]

Just read. Exactly the advice I would have passed on. I concur. Verner.(Outlook 
for Android) Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 Original message From: John Boocock  Date: 
02/05/2019  16:47  (GMT+00:00) To: Graham White , 
leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Non-LU: Techie help needed Graham I 
think this is following a Windows 10 update, I read something about it on The 
Register. It didn't happen to the windows laptop I have as I had my data on a 
drive connected via a USB 3.0 port.You should be able to re activate the data 
drive by using disk management and giving the errant drive a drive 
letter.Doesn't happen with Linux :-)BettyOn 02/05/2019 12:52, Graham White via 
Leedslist wrote:> Hi All>> My PC has 2 hard drives, a SSD (drive C:) which I 
keep all the operating systems and programmes on and a conventional hard drive 
(drive E:) which I use to put all data on, pics, music etc.>> Problem is that 
drive E: has disappeared!  Any ideas as to how to recover it?  I mean it must 
still physically be there.>> Cheers>>> Graham White> > 
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Re: [LU] Non-LU: Techie help needed

[John Boocock]

Graham I think this is following a Windows 10 update, I read something 
about it on The Register. It didn't happen to the windows laptop I have 
as I had my data on a drive connected via a USB 3.0 port.


You should be able to re activate the data drive by using disk 
management and giving the errant drive a drive letter.


Doesn't happen with Linux :-)

Betty


On 02/05/2019 12:52, Graham White via Leedslist wrote:

Hi All

My PC has 2 hard drives, a SSD (drive C:) which I keep all the operating 
systems and programmes on and a conventional hard drive (drive E:) which I use 
to put all data on, pics, music etc.

Problem is that drive E: has disappeared!  Any ideas as to how to recover it?  
I mean it must still physically be there.

Cheers


Graham White

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[LU] Non-LU: Techie help needed

[Graham White via Leedslist]

Hi All

My PC has 2 hard drives, a SSD (drive C:) which I keep all the operating 
systems and programmes on and a conventional hard drive (drive E:) which I use 
to put all data on, pics, music etc.

Problem is that drive E: has disappeared!  Any ideas as to how to recover it?  
I mean it must still physically be there.

Cheers


Graham White

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[LU] Non LU........... question re Chels v WH

[Robert Heath]

Is Eden Hazard an alien?
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Paul Cundell]

Congratulations Ian

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 08:05 Roy Blackwell,  wrote:

> Congratulations
>
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 06:45 Ian Murray,  wrote:
>
> > Where are the highlights?
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Nicholas Armit 
> > Date: 22/08/2018 08:00 (GMT+08:00)
> > To: Errand Fivefold , Leeds List <
> > leedslist@gn.apc.org>, Ian Murray 
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
> >
> > different subject...watched the highlights back and the effort from
> > Phillips and Saiz for their first goal is disgraceful. No hi intensity
> > effort there and total ball watching. Really poor.
> >
> > On Tuesday, August 21, 2018, 7:42:06 PM EDT, Ian Murray <
> > ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Thanks mate :)
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> >
> >
> >  Original message 
> > From: Errand Fivefold  > errand.fivef...@talk21.com>>
> > Date: 22/08/2018 01:28 (GMT+08:00)
> > To: Ian Murray  > ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>, Leeds List  > leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
> >
> > WOW!
> > Hello Finn!!
> >
> > Congratulations to you all.
> >
> > Great news!
> >
> > :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: Ian Murray  > ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>
> > To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> > Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
> > Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
> >
> > Hey all
> >
> > Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave
> > birth to our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.
> >
> > Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was
> very
> > pleased with our performance.
> >
> > I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of
> > those things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am
> so
> > re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I
> dont
> > have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that
> > then they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an
> > unreasonable amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.
> >
> > Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide
> > enough right now.
> >
> > MOT
> >
> > Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Roy Blackwell]

Congratulations

On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, 06:45 Ian Murray,  wrote:

> Where are the highlights?
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Nicholas Armit 
> Date: 22/08/2018 08:00 (GMT+08:00)
> To: Errand Fivefold , Leeds List <
> leedslist@gn.apc.org>, Ian Murray 
> Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
>
> different subject...watched the highlights back and the effort from
> Phillips and Saiz for their first goal is disgraceful. No hi intensity
> effort there and total ball watching. Really poor.
>
> On Tuesday, August 21, 2018, 7:42:06 PM EDT, Ian Murray <
> ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks mate :)
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
>
>  Original message 
> From: Errand Fivefold  errand.fivef...@talk21.com>>
> Date: 22/08/2018 01:28 (GMT+08:00)
> To: Ian Murray  ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>, Leeds List  leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
>
> WOW!
> Hello Finn!!
>
> Congratulations to you all.
>
> Great news!
>
> :-)
>
>
>
>
> Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--
>
>
> ________
> From: Ian Murray  ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>
> To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
> Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
>
> Hey all
>
> Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave
> birth to our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.
>
> Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very
> pleased with our performance.
>
> I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of
> those things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so
> re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont
> have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that
> then they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an
> unreasonable amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.
>
> Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide
> enough right now.
>
> MOT
>
> Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Ian Murray]

Where are the highlights?



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Nicholas Armit 
Date: 22/08/2018 08:00 (GMT+08:00)
To: Errand Fivefold , Leeds List 
, Ian Murray 
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

different subject...watched the highlights back and the effort from Phillips 
and Saiz for their first goal is disgraceful. No hi intensity effort there and 
total ball watching. Really poor.

On Tuesday, August 21, 2018, 7:42:06 PM EDT, Ian Murray 
 wrote:


Thanks mate :)



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Errand Fivefold 
mailto:errand.fivef...@talk21.com>>
Date: 22/08/2018 01:28 (GMT+08:00)
To: Ian Murray mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>, 
Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

WOW!
Hello Finn!!

Congratulations to you all.

Great news!

:-)




Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--



From: Ian Murray mailto:ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com>>
To: Leeds List mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>>
Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[David Komadina]

Congratulations!


On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 at 21:02, Ian Murray  wrote:

> Hey all
>
> Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave
> birth to our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.
>
> Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very
> pleased with our performance.
>
> I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of
> those things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so
> re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont
> have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that
> then they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an
> unreasonable amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.
>
> Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide
> enough right now.
>
> MOT
>
> Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 different subject...watched the highlights back and the effort from Phillips 
and Saiz for their first goal is disgraceful. No hi intensity effort there and 
total ball watching. Really poor.
On Tuesday, August 21, 2018, 7:42:06 PM EDT, Ian Murray 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks mate :)



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Errand Fivefold 
Date: 22/08/2018 01:28 (GMT+08:00)
To: Ian Murray , Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

WOW!
Hello Finn!!

Congratulations to you all.

Great news!

:-)




Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--



From: Ian Murray 
To: Leeds List 
Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Ian Murray]

Thanks mate :)



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


 Original message 
From: Errand Fivefold 
Date: 22/08/2018 01:28 (GMT+08:00)
To: Ian Murray , Leeds List 
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

WOW!
Hello Finn!!

Congratulations to you all.

Great news!

:-)




Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--



From: Ian Murray 
To: Leeds List 
Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Jeremy Adams]

Congrats Ian,


Have to admit to being a little unsure about putting parentheses in his middle 
name but welcome all the same!


Jeremy



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Errand Fivefold 

Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:28:10 PM
To: Ian Murray; Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

WOW!Hello Finn!!

Congratulations to you all.
Great news!
:-)


 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: Ian Murray 
 To: Leeds List 
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
 Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Errand Fivefold]

WOW!Hello Finn!!

Congratulations to you all.
Great news!
:-)


 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: Ian Murray 
 To: Leeds List  
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 14:02
 Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan
   
Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Ted]

Congratulations!

Ted H
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Nigel Sykes]

Congratulations to all!

Here's hoping he's more lucky than my eldest son who was born in 1993, and
so has never seen his team win anything!

(I also foisted the support of the Washington Redskins on him, and they too
last won the Super Bowl in 1992.  Poor lad...)

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

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Murray
Sent: 21 August 2018 14:02
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth
to our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an
unreasonable amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough
right now.

MOT

Ian
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Re: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Brendan Osborne]

Ah nice one Ian!


MOT 



From: Leedslist  on behalf of Ian Murray 

Sent: Tuesday 21 August 2018 13:02
To: Leeds List
Subject: [LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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[LU] Non LU - New Leeds Fan

[Ian Murray]

Hey all

Very pleased to announce the fact that on Thursday my wife Nicky gave birth to 
our first son and Leeds fan, Finlay (Finn) James Murray.

Finn and I watched the Rotherham game in hospital together and he was very 
pleased with our performance.

I am sure that he will think that us winning the league is just one of those 
things that happens routinely - which is how I felt in 1992.  I am so 
re-invigorated with Bielsa that I have bought an android box so that I dont 
have to miss any games this season from Perth - if they are not on that then 
they can be streamed on the leeds website.  I have also spent an unreasonable 
amount of cash on LUFC baby tat to dress the lad in.

Anyway, I am just telling everyone I know because I can't smile wide enough 
right now.

MOT

Ian
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[LU] NON LU: Belgium better side

[David Smail]

Southgate has brought a lot of positive things to England in this World Cup.
It may be true that Belgium are further developed and closer to their
finished form, but  for me, one of the greatest of  Southgates' achievements
was illustrated in his post match comments today after England's'  2-0
defeat. 

 "Belgium are a better side"  

Good call Gareth.  

They certainly are (even without Fellaini)

Carry on sir.

I believe 4th place considerably flatters England although they progressed
so much further than could have been expected. 

 

Dave

 

 

 

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[LU] non LU - ENGLAND _ GET IN !!!

[nat...@sky.com]

Never thought this squad would make it to the semis - but we have - great stuff 
and lets hope there is more to come
Thought it would be experience for Euro 2020 when the present squad would be 
joined by the best of the u21 Toulon winning squad and the u20 and u17 world 
champions
COME ON ENGLAND 

Dave
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[LU] NON LU Argentina

[David Smail]

There it is then, Argentina through to the final 16. A great winning goal,
it has to be said. Apart from a certain region of South America, I'll wager
that most other hearts in the footballing world sank - or perhaps it's just
me?

As long as Spain don't win the Competition, especially on another farcical
VAR / referee decision,  I'll take anyone else that can provide entertaining
footy without bogus claims and cheating.   I can't be doing with their drip
by drip endless passing  torture method of wearing teams down. Boring boring
boring. I think Spain must also hope and that opponents become bored and
distracted  into making errors as they attempt crosswords and read magazines
to pass the time that Spain are in possession.   They need a good hard and
skilful team like Bayern to sort them out. I quite like the idea of club
sides taking on nations. There's so many mildly amusing permutations.

 

Sengal V Swindon Town

Argentina v QPR

England v Barcelona

Span v Bayern (ahem)

Costa Rica v Plymouth Argyle

Peru v Forest

 

I think LU would be doing well to "scrape" a point from the likes of
Iceland. 

 

The list goes on...

 

Apologies if World Cup comments are not approved of on the list - just a few
(some slightly obscure)  personal views so far.The list can become so
quiet and dull from time to time.

 

Dave

 

 

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Re: [LU] Non LU:- 60th Anniversary

[Richard Naef]

It goes without saying tragedies like that go beyond any petty rivalry, even 
more do (if possible) give what almost happen to our own players on 1998. 

ttfn

Richard

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Subject: [LU] Non LU:- 60th Anniversary

They may be our most-hated rivals, but I'm not going to let the anniversary of 
the Munich Air Crash  pass without comment.
In my youth, I was as guilty as any of taking the piss, for which I am ashamed.

Apart  from the football side of it, the death of those young men was a 
personal disaster for their families.

There were also stories of real heroism that day, that put any sporting context 
into perspective.

KOT.


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[LU] Non LU:- 60th Anniversary

[Kevin Lewis (UK SBS)]

They may be our most-hated rivals, but I'm not going to let the anniversary of 
the Munich Air Crash  pass without comment.
In my youth, I was as guilty as any of taking the piss, for which I am ashamed.

Apart  from the football side of it, the death of those young men was a 
personal disaster for their families.

There were also stories of real heroism that day, that put any sporting context 
into perspective.

KOT.


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Re: [LU] Non LU, but still football

[Richard Naef]

Depends how much effort you want to put in, might be worth sticking the best 
ones individually om ebay and the less good ones a job lot.   the Jimmy Hill 
annual is at £6 + £3 del on ebay, average condition from the pictures 

ttfn

Richard

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Sent: 02 February 2018 15:18
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: [LU] Non LU, but still football

I've found a bunch of old football papers and a Jimmy Hill Soccer Annual 1969 
in my loft.  Some papers date back to the 50s, most are from the 60s.  They're 
not in sequence, just odd ones from years and months, just over 20 in total.  
There are some Book of Football, Football Monthly, Goal, and an Evening Post 72 
Cup Final Special Part 2, no Part 1 I'm afraid.


I know that in most forms of collecting condition is very important, and 
they're hardly mint, but not in bits.


Anyone know if these are collectible at all, or worth owt, or should I just put 
them in the recycling?


DRB
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[LU] Non LU, but still football

[David Brennan]

I've found a bunch of old football papers and a Jimmy Hill Soccer Annual 1969 
in my loft.  Some papers date back to the 50s, most are from the 60s.  They're 
not in sequence, just odd ones from years and months, just over 20 in total.  
There are some Book of Football, Football Monthly, Goal, and an Evening Post 72 
Cup Final Special Part 2, no Part 1 I'm afraid.


I know that in most forms of collecting condition is very important, and 
they're hardly mint, but not in bits.


Anyone know if these are collectible at all, or worth owt, or should I just put 
them in the recycling?


DRB
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[LU] Non LU: Boxing

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

May 19th -  Josh v Lee Selby at Elland Road 
If you want to experience Leeds how it used to be on the day of a big game then 
get yoursen a ticket. 
Anyone know when tickets go on sale ? 
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[LU] Non LU but sort of Leeds related for groovy folk

[{broken-address}]

It’s the first anniversary of our fab Soulful! night tomorrow night, Fri 3 Nov 
- soul, funk, r and all manner of danceable nuggets, played by Leeds fans ON 
VINYL - in fact one DJ is Theo Hudson’s Dad, one of our under 19 up and comers.

So, if you’re in Harrogate, pop along to St Robert’s Club - 8-12, FREE entry, 
all welcome. Message me off list if you need more info.

Da rev
Still grooving after all these years

Sent from my iPad
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish) (Jeremy Thorpe)

[Michael Gardiner]

You tell me, you’re the Dr.!

Michael A. Gardiner
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On Oct 27, 2017, at 1:54 PM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:

You worry me-- sexual tension.  Where's that coming from?

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Gardiner
Sent: 27 October 2017 20:25
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish) 
(Jeremy Thorpe)

Kicking them off?  Well that’s ridiculous.  Half the entertainment of this list 
is watching the two of them go back and forth, the sexual tension oozing from 
every binary digit.

Michael A. Gardiner
LAW OFFICES OF MICHAEL A. GARDINER
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish) (Jeremy Thorpe)

[Michael Benjamin]

You worry me-- sexual tension.  Where's that coming from? 

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Gardiner
Sent: 27 October 2017 20:25
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish) 
(Jeremy Thorpe)

Kicking them off?  Well that’s ridiculous.  Half the entertainment of this list 
is watching the two of them go back and forth, the sexual tension oozing from 
every binary digit.

Michael A. Gardiner
LAW OFFICES OF MICHAEL A. GARDINER
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Michael Benjamin]

Fortress Elland Road.
Mattress more like it… just lay down and suck your thumb.
Gutless, clueless and guileless.
That bloody Centre Forward has to make a real effort to be useless.  There is 
no way this team is going anywhere. There is no  logic in any department. The 
team is unbalanced, there is zero leadership, the team plan, as such, is 
puerile if not idiotic and has been rumbled. And most of the players are 
average and not clear what their stengths are and what their best position is.
We hoped it would start and get better. It is getting worse. This team is going 
nowhere. We played absolute garbage, again.
Nigh on a 100,000 in three home games in a city starved of football. And what 
do they get? A league of nations of wankers and cretins. FFS one answer. We 
get—supporter ownership.

From: Peter Castlehouse [mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au]
Sent: 27 October 2017 23:03
To: 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>; Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: 'Jeremy Thorpe' <jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk>; 'Richard Walker' 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

It may have escaped everyone’s attention, but they are both re-subscribed, and 
not actually ‘banned’ from the list!
Thirkers, on the other hand……
I’ll get my coat

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 28 October 2017 02:04
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>
Cc: Jeremy Thorpe <jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk<mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk>>; 
Richard Walker <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>; Peter 
Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Wow!

My Dear Michael, I don't know what is more astonishing.your 
original error, or the cojones you showed by admitting it!

You really are a Mad Bastard.

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but:
1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
(another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning.
3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback.
4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I did 
it great 
All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me.

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk<mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk>]
Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
To: 'Richard Walker' <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>; 
'Peter Castlehouse' <dubca...@iinet.net.au<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>; 
Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist 
[mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>] On 
Behalf Of {broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on.
  From: Peter Castlehouse 
<dubca...@iinet.net.au<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>
 To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leeds

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Peter Castlehouse]

It may have escaped everyone’s attention, but they are both re-subscribed, and 
not actually ‘banned’ from the list!
Thirkers, on the other hand……
I’ll get my coat

 

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk] 
Sent: 28 October 2017 02:04
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Jeremy Thorpe <jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk>; Richard Walker 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 

Wow!

 

My Dear Michael, I don't know what is more astonishing.your 
original error, or the cojones you showed by admitting it!

 

You really are a Mad Bastard.

 

On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 8:45 PM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com 
<mailto:m...@myray.com> > wrote:

I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but:
1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
(another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning.
3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback.
4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I did 
it great 
All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me.

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk 
<mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk> ]
Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
To: 'Richard Walker' <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk <mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk> 
>; 'Peter Castlehouse' <dubca...@iinet.net.au <mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au> >; 
Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.com> >; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> >
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> 

Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org 
<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> ] On Behalf Of {broken-address} Richard 
Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on.
  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au 
<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au> >
 To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.com> >; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> >
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
 Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org 
<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> ] On Behalf Of Michael Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> >
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> ]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.c

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish) (Jeremy Thorpe)

[Michael Gardiner]

Kicking them off?  Well that’s ridiculous.  Half the entertainment of this list 
is watching the two of them go back and forth, the sexual tension oozing from 
every binary digit.

Michael A. Gardiner
LAW OFFICES OF MICHAEL A. GARDINER
110 West “A” Street, Suite 950
San Diego, CA  92101
Phone:  619.238.9800
Fax:  619.814.3727
E-mail:  mgardi...@gardinerlegal.com

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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

stop being dramatic. Never apologise, just say fuck it. 
We've got the biggest match for years coming up ! We need your mad rantings. 
MOT. 
Lots of pissed people heading down to ground. Love it. 

  From: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
 To: Jeremy Thorpe <jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk>; 'Richard Walker' 
<richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; 'Peter Castlehouse' <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; 'Rob 
Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
Cc: "leedslist@gn.apc.org" <leedslist@gn.apc.org>
 Sent: Friday, 27 October 2017, 13:45
 Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
   
I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but: 
1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
(another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning. 
3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback. 
4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I did 
it great  
All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me. 

Michael 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk] 
Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
To: 'Richard Walker' <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; 'Peter Castlehouse' 
<dubca...@iinet.net.au>; Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 
      From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
 To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
  
Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled;

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Simon McNally]

I agree!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Oct 2017, at 13:12, Jeremy Thorpe <jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
> responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
> To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
> Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 
>  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
> To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings..
> This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
> eyes.
> Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
> in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
> subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same 
> moderation.
> Regards
> Pete
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Benjamin
> Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
> To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what 
> you did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother 
> beats me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back 
> in. This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
> Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
> You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
> perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the 
> fan.
> I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
> out fighting you would be more than great.
> Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
> one, but you plough on.
> 
> From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
> Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
> To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
> Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?
> 
> I think he's finally cracked.
> 
> Physician, heal thyself.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
> <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
> You will not have the last word.
> You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
> flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. 
> The age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty 
> would permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. 
> But I will not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be 
> expelled; I believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your 
> distinct disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, 
> I hit out.
> I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
> absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
> remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more 
> than creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
> You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
> and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
> to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
> away—unless you stop.
> 
> From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>]
> Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
> To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>>
> Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 
> leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> 
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...
> 
> He seems to ha

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Scott1cairns1]

“Mad Mike” love that. 

Best regards,Scott. 

> On 27 Oct 2017, at 13:12, Jeremy Thorpe <jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
> responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
> To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
> Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 
>  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
> To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
> This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
> eyes.
> Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
> in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
> subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same 
> moderation.
> Regards
> Pete
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
> Benjamin
> Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
> To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what 
> you did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother 
> beats me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back 
> in. This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
> Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
> You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
> perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the 
> fan.
> I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
> out fighting you would be more than great.
> Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
> one, but you plough on.
> 
> From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
> Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
> To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
> Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?
> 
> I think he's finally cracked.
> 
> Physician, heal thyself.
> 
> On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
> <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
> You will not have the last word.
> You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
> flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. 
> The age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty 
> would permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. 
> But I will not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be 
> expelled; I believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your 
> distinct disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, 
> I hit out.
> I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
> absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
> remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more 
> than creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
> You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
> and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
> to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
> away—unless you stop.
> 
> From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>]
> Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
> To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>>
> Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 
> leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> 
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...
> 
> He seems 

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Jeremy Adams]

Just to keep this all going, as it seems about the only active thread in this 
list. Where does Thirkers now stand in all this? Is he banned too or is his 
rant all fine? I'm not really bothered either way, just felt like lighting some 
blue touch paper and standing back since it's just about Guy Fawkes time..


Hat on,

Jeremy



From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Neil 
<nhacks...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2017 9:01:35 AM
To: E Walsh
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Rob Heath
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I don’t contribute much, but I think you should stay.

That post was wonderful. If Heath’s book is as well written as your post I will 
buy it.

It was not nice, but it was funny as hell.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2017, at 8:59 AM, E Walsh 
<ejwa...@indigo.ie<mailto:ejwa...@indigo.ie>> wrote:

Personally I think you should stay.
I enjoy your comments.
Ed

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Oct 2017, at 13:45, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:

I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but:
1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
(another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning.
3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback.
4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I did 
it great 
All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me.

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk]
Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
To: 'Richard Walker' <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>; 
'Peter Castlehouse' <dubca...@iinet.net.au<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>; 
Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on.
From: Peter Castlehouse 
<dubca...@iinet.net.au<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>
To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the poi

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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Neil]

I don’t contribute much, but I think you should stay.

That post was wonderful. If Heath’s book is as well written as your post I will 
buy it.

It was not nice, but it was funny as hell.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 27, 2017, at 8:59 AM, E Walsh 
<ejwa...@indigo.ie<mailto:ejwa...@indigo.ie>> wrote:

Personally I think you should stay.
I enjoy your comments.
Ed

Sent from my iPhone

On 27 Oct 2017, at 13:45, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:

I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but:
1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
(another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning.
3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback.
4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I did 
it great 
All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me.

Michael

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk]
Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
To: 'Richard Walker' <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk<mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>>; 
'Peter Castlehouse' <dubca...@iinet.net.au<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>; 
Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on.
From: Peter Castlehouse 
<dubca...@iinet.net.au<mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au>>
To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the poi

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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[E Walsh]

Personally I think you should stay.
I enjoy your comments.
Ed

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Oct 2017, at 13:45, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but: 
> 1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
> any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
> 2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
> (another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning. 
> 3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
> every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback. 
> 4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
> nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I 
> did it great  
> All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me. 
> 
> Michael 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk] 
> Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
> To: 'Richard Walker' <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; 'Peter Castlehouse' 
> <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' 
> <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
> responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> {broken-address} Richard Walker
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
> To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
> Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 
>  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
> To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Michael Benjamin]

I don't know where this stands; I may be repeating myself but: 
1. I accept all responsibility. Heath, this time, was completely innocent of 
any wrongdoings.  He should definitely not be banned.
2. Suffice to say; I had no idea he had written a book. I thought it was 
(another) dig at me. I was wrong and deserve banning. 
3. TBF, as much as I intensely dislike Heath, I wish his forage into writing 
every success. Yes, you should read his book and give feedback. 
4. So, I wander off into the horizon knowing my last act was much to do about 
nothing and extremely bizarre even by my exacting standards. But by God, I did 
it great  
All the best to all of you. MOT, but without me. 

Michael 

-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Thorpe [mailto:jezz.tho...@zen.co.uk] 
Sent: 27 October 2017 15:12
To: 'Richard Walker' <richleed...@yahoo.co.uk>; 'Peter Castlehouse' 
<dubca...@iinet.net.au>; Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: RE: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 
  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
 To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
   
Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled; I 
believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your distinct 
disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, I hit out.
I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more than 
creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not re

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Jeremy Thorpe]

 I second getting them back on. From the initial flame through all Dr Mikes 
responses, bloody hilarious. Fabulous cheap entertainment.

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Richard Walker
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 07:59
To: Peter Castlehouse; 'Michael Benjamin'; 'Rob Heath'
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 
  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
 To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
   
Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled; I 
believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your distinct 
disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, I hit out.
I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more than 
creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
away—unless you stop.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>]
Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>>
Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>

Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...

He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not 
exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap and 
a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.

It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am just a 
layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone like, oh, I 
don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?

What? Oh.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson 
<m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>> wrote:
Who me?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Oct 2017, a

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[bt]

Why would I, or anyone else want to buy a book written by you, when we see the 
sort of 
stuff you write on this list, abusive, insulting racist insults, that has gone 
on for years and 
years against a lad from Leeds. Mike has done more for this world than you will 
ever do.
You should be ashamed of your self, now you are begging for people to buy your 
book.
That shows just how Popular you are. I will be surprised if anyone buys the 
book from the list.
Have a nice day Brain of Britain……
Thirkers\098/
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 Oh that I missed. Please don't ban me.
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 11:57:47 AM EDT, Matt Anderson 
<m...@leeds-united.net> wrote:  
 
 There was an unanswered attack on dr mike a few days ago, I expect this was 
brewing and it's all my fault 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Oct 2017, at 15:05, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
> <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. 
> In that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
> Nick
>    On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
>White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:  
> 
> I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was 
> that, as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob 
> Heath and yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane 
> ranting.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Graham White
> 
> 
>    On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
>wrote:  
> 
> I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
> forever behave as if they are children.
> Ed
>> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
>> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
>> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
>> Boocock
>> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
>> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
>> 
>> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let 
>> you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here 
>> of course)
>> 
>> Big Terry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will 
>>> there be a transition period?
>>> ​
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>    Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>>    Bridge (some of this is true)
>>> 
>>>    I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>>    re sub them.
>>> 
>>>    Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>>    / No?
>>> 
>>>    Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>> 
>>>        I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>>        unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>>        re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>>        make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>> 
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Brendan Osborne]

Mike,


I think the lists' confusion lies in the fact that you mentioned "searching 
through my past emails" on a number of occasions, whereas I certainly speak for 
myself when I say that I didn't see that evidenced in anything posted to the 
list.


I/We may have missed something or perhaps something was posted off list - 
which, if so, I feel should be just between you two and the list should be 
saved from the fallout.


Personally I'd prefer to have you both on the list as I'd miss the excitement!! 




Ossie



From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com>
Sent: 26 October 2017 16:05
To: Graham White; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I was infuriated by an act I described at least twice.
But you decide.
Good luck & MOT--
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Graham White
Sent: 26 October 2017 16:41
To: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations?
>> Will there be a transition period?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>
>>
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Michael Benjamin]

I was infuriated by an act I described at least twice. 
But you decide. 
Good luck & MOT-- 
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Graham White
Sent: 26 October 2017 16:41
To: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:  
 
 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU 
> (ish)
> 
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll 
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm 
> still here of course)
> 
> Big Terry
> 
> 
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? 
>> Will there be a transition period?
>> ​
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>    Bridge (some of this is true)
>> 
>>    I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>    re sub them.
>> 
>>    Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>    / No?
>> 
>>    Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>> 
>>        I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>        unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>        re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>        make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>> 
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Matt Anderson]

There was an unanswered attack on dr mike a few days ago, I expect this was 
brewing and it's all my fault 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Oct 2017, at 15:05, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
> <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. 
> In that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
> Nick
>On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
> White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:  
> 
> I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was 
> that, as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob 
> Heath and yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane 
> ranting.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Graham White
> 
> 
> On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
> wrote:  
> 
> I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
> forever behave as if they are children.
> Ed
>> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
>> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
>> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
>> Boocock
>> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
>> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
>> 
>> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let 
>> you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here 
>> of course)
>> 
>> Big Terry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will 
>>> there be a transition period?
>>> ​
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>> Bridge (some of this is true)
>>> 
>>> I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>> re sub them.
>>> 
>>> Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>> / No?
>>> 
>>> Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>> unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>> re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>> make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>> 
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Matt Anderson]

Please don't ban me 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 26 Oct 2017, at 15:52, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit 
> <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email 
> I believe:
> |-Original Message-
>> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt
>> |Anderson
>> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
>> |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
>> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
>> |
>> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel
> 
>On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
> <wiscole...@hotmail.com> wrote:  
> 
> Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
> the wrong this time.
> 
> Mark
> El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
> Leeds United
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> 
> From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
> Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
> To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. 
> In that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
> Nick
> On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
> White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:
> 
> I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was 
> that, as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob 
> Heath and yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane 
> ranting.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> Graham White
> 
> 
> On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
> wrote:
> 
> I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
> forever behave as if they are children.
> Ed
>> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
>> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
>> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
>> Boocock
>> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
>> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
>> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
>> 
>> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let 
>> you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here 
>> of course)
>> 
>> Big Terry
>> 
>> 
>>> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will
>>> there be a transition period?
>>> ​
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net
>>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>> Bridge (some of this is true)
>>> 
>>> I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>> re sub them.
>>> 
>>> Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>> / No?
>>> 
>>> Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>> 
>>> I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>> unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>> re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>> make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> <mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org>
>&

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Robinson, Mick]

Matt only said what I wanted to be daren't 

I was counting down from Matt's post but I did not expect Rob to get so much 
grief.


-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:53
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; 
Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie>; Graham 
White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com>; {broken-address} Graham White 
<gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>; Mark <wiscole...@hotmail.com>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

[EXTERNAL]


 Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email I 
believe:
|-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> |Matt Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the 
> |point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel

On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
<wiscole...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU 
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll 
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm 
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? 
>> Will there be a transition period?
>> ​
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>
>>    Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>    Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>    I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>    re sub them.
>>
>>    Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>    / No?
>>
>>    Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>    On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>    I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>    unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>    re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>    make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>
>>
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Brendan Osborne]

I've just noticed the "Flame Wars 'R Us" in the email trailers 



From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of Nigel Sykes 
<ni...@sykesonline.com>
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:11
To: Leeds List
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Ha!  You're right!  It wasn't even Rob's joke about Israel!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:53
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; 
{broken-address} Graham White; Mark
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email I 
believe:
|-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> |Matt Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the
> |point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel

On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
<wiscole...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations?
>> Will there be a transition period?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>
>>
>>___
>>Leedslist mailing list
>>Info and options:
>>https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist
>><https://mailman.gn.apc.org/

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Nigel Sykes]

Ha!  You're right!  It wasn't even Rob's joke about Israel!

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
Sent: 26 October 2017 15:53
To: {broken-address} Nicholas Armit; Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; 
{broken-address} Graham White; Mark
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email I 
believe:
|-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> |Matt Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the 
> |point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel

On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
<wiscole...@hotmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
> John Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU 
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll 
> let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm 
> still here of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? 
>> Will there be a transition period?
>> ​
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>>
>>
>>___
>>Leedslist mailing list
>>Info and options:
>>https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist
>><https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist>
>>To unsubscribe, email leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org
>><mailto:leedslist-unsubscr...@gn.apc.org>
>>
>>
>>FLAME WARS 'R US
>>
>>
>
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[John Boocock]

Right that's it your are all banned :-)

I'll sort this out after I measured an arch for Xmas lights up the 
village.


Boris John

On 26/10/2017 15:52, {broken-address} Nicholas Armit wrote:

Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his
email I believe:
|-Original Message-
|From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
Matt

|Anderson
|Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
|To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
|Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
|Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the 
point..LU (ish)

|
|Just noticed big order coming in from Israel


On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark
<wiscole...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the
"dr" was in the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of
{broken-address} Nicholas Armit
<arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham 
White

Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU 
(ish)


Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from
Rob. In that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
    On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address}
Graham White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night
was that, as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation
from Rob Heath and yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with
literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


    On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh
<ejwa...@indigo.ie> wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some
adults will forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> 
wrote:


If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to 
re-subscribe too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?

Shall we have a referendum on this folks?


-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of 
John Boocock

Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU 
(ish)


It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll 
let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm 
still here of course)


Big Terry


On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:

​Will it be a binding referendum?
And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? 
Will

there be a transition period?
​


On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net
<mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:

    Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was 
playing

    Bridge (some of this is true)

    I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
    re sub them.

    Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath 
Yes

    / No?

    Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq



    On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:

        I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
        unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
        re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
        make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.


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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 Matt was the instigator (harmlessly no doubt) Dr Mike responded to his email I 
believe:
|-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> |Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel

On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 10:50:36 AM EDT, Mark 
<wiscole...@hotmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
Chicago Fire

From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
    On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


    On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let you 
> all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here of 
> course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will
>> there be a transition period?
>> ​
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>
>>    Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>    Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>    I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>    re sub them.
>>
>>    Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>    / No?
>>
>>    Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>    On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>        I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>        unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>        re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>        make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Nigel Sykes]

It was all very odd wasn't it?

As far as I can see, Rob had a little poke at his old sparring partner with a 
fairly harmless (though probably ill-advised) joke about receiving book orders 
from Israel.  Then all hell broke loose from Dr Mike, who talked about emails 
from Rob that suggest him poring over and referring to old posts of his.  We 
didn't see those, so either Rob sent something off list, or Dr Mike got his 
knickers in a twist over something else.  Somehow, I can't imagine Dr Mike not 
revealing the alleged emails to the list, and yet he didn't. Either way, I 
can't see why Dr Mike brought his ire to the list.

Nigel
(the Dublin one)

> Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
> the wrong this time.
>
> Mark
> El Presidente Wisconsin Whites

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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Mark]

Agree, I didn't notice anything provocative from Rob. I think the "dr" was in 
the wrong this time.

Mark
El Presidente Wisconsin Whites
Leeds United
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From: Leedslist <leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> on behalf of {broken-address} 
Nicholas Armit <arm...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 9:05:29 AM
To: Peter Castlehouse; ejwalsh; Graham White; {broken-address} Graham White
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org; Chris Nickson
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:

 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:

 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let you 
> all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here of 
> course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will
>> there be a transition period?
>> ​
>>
>>
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>>
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>>
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>>
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>>
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>>
>>
>>
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>>
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[{broken-address} Nicholas Armit]

 Looked to me like Mike misread a post from someone else as coming from Rob. In 
that case I feel Rob deserves an apology.
Nick
On Thursday, October 26, 2017, 9:42:28 AM EDT, {broken-address} Graham 
White <gcwhite2...@yahoo.com-is-broken.gn.apc.org> wrote:  
 
 I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


    On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:  
 
 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let you 
> all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here of 
> course)
> 
> Big Terry
> 
> 
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will 
>> there be a transition period?
>> ​
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>    Bridge (some of this is true)
>> 
>>    I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>    re sub them.
>> 
>>    Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>    / No?
>> 
>>    Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>> 
>>        I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>        unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>        re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>        make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[{broken-address} Graham White]

I know both have been guilty in the past, but what got me last night was that, 
as far as I could see, there was absolutely no provocation from Rob Heath and 
yet Dr. Benjamin came steaming straight in with literally insane ranting.

Cheers


Graham White


On Thursday, 26 October 2017, 13:00:00 CEST, ejwalsh <ejwa...@indigo.ie> 
wrote:  
 
 I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let you 
> all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here of 
> course)
> 
> Big Terry
> 
> 
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will 
>> there be a transition period?
>> ​
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>    Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>    Bridge (some of this is true)
>> 
>>    I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>    re sub them.
>> 
>>    Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>    / No?
>> 
>>    Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>> 
>>        I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>        unsubscribe button.  They have the opportunity to
>>        re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>        make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>> 
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[ejwalsh]

I voted yes only because I can show my 12 year old son that some adults will 
forever behave as if they are children.
Ed
> On 26 Oct 2017, at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> 
> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe 
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John 
> Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> 
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let you 
> all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here of 
> course)
> 
> Big Terry
> 
> 
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
>> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
>> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will 
>> there be a transition period?
>> ​
>> 
>> 
>> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
>> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>> 
>>Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
>>Bridge (some of this is true)
>> 
>>I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
>>re sub them.
>> 
>>Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
>>/ No?
>> 
>>Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>> 
>>I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
>>unsubscribe button.   They have the opportunity to
>>re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
>>make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
>> 
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[Jim Moran]

Voted. Can't for the life of me figure out what triggered it this time.

Amusingly, Desmond Decker's Israelites is on the office Sonos!

On 26 October 2017 at 11:07, Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
wrote:

> If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe
> too... Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
> Shall we have a referendum on this folks?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John
> Boocock
> Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
> To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
> Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
> It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let
> you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here
> of course)
>
> Big Terry
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
> > ​Will it be a binding referendum?
> > And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will
> > there be a transition period?
> > ​
> >
> >
> > On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net
> > <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
> >
> > Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
> > Bridge (some of this is true)
> >
> > I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
> > re sub them.
> >
> > Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
> > / No?
> >
> > Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
> >
> >
> >
> > On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
> >
> > I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
> > unsubscribe button.   They have the opportunity to
> > re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
> > make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Peter Castlehouse]

If you keep changing your name, we might have to get you to re-subscribe too... 
Big Terry Boocock-Cameron huh?
Shall we have a referendum on this folks?


-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John Boocock
Sent: 26 October 2017 20:55
To: Chris Nickson <chrisnicks...@gmail.com>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll let you 
all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm still here of 
course)

Big Terry


On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:
> ​Will it be a binding referendum?
> And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will 
> there be a transition period?
> ​
>
>
> On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net 
> <mailto:j...@boocock.net>> wrote:
>
> Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
> Bridge (some of this is true)
>
> I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
> re sub them.
>
> Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
> / No?
>
> Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>
> I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
> unsubscribe button.   They have the opportunity to
> re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
> make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Peter Castlehouse]

The survey has been created, link here:
https://s.surveyplanet.com/S1_AJE1CW
Binding referendum I think... depends on the weather in Harrogate I think?
Totally democratic society us Listers aren't we?
Results in when people stop completing the survey, which is when survey answers 
show a distinct and significant drop in new survey responses.  Could be hours, 
days...
Off you go you lot and vote.   Betty, go back to your bridge (beer) fest
Pete


-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nickson
Sent: 26 October 2017 20:49
To: John Boocock <j...@boocock.net>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

​Will it be a binding referendum?
And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will there be 
a transition period?
​


On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock <j...@boocock.net> wrote:

> Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing 
> Bridge (some of this is true)
>
> I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should re 
> sub them.
>
> Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes / No?
>
> Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>
> I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their unsubscribe
>> button.   They have the opportunity to re-subscribe at their leisure, as
>> was advised, and Betty can make the mighty decision whether to allow 
>> them back on.
>>
>
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[John Boocock]

It will only be binding after I've made a decision but of course I'll 
let you all vote on that after implementation has occurred. (If I'm 
still here of course)


Big Terry


On 26/10/2017 10:49, Chris Nickson wrote:

​Will it be a binding referendum?
And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will 
there be a transition period?

​


On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock > wrote:


Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing
Bridge (some of this is true)

I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should
re sub them.

Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes
/ No?

Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq



On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:

I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their
unsubscribe button.   They have the opportunity to
re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, and Betty can
make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.


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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Chris Nickson]

​Will it be a binding referendum?
And if they want to resub, who will be in charge of negotiations? Will
there be a transition period?
​


On 26 October 2017 at 10:44, John Boocock  wrote:

> Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing Bridge
> (some of this is true)
>
> I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should re sub
> them.
>
> Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes / No?
>
> Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq
>
>
>
> On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:
>
> I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their unsubscribe
>> button.   They have the opportunity to re-subscribe at their leisure, as
>> was advised, and Betty can make the mighty decision whether to allow them
>> back on.
>>
>
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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Peter Castlehouse]

On it now Betty, will post the link in five minutes
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of John Boocock
Sent: 26 October 2017 20:45
To: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing Bridge (some 
of this is true)

I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should re sub them.

Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes / No?

Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq



On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:

> I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their unsubscribe 
> button.   They have the opportunity to re-subscribe at their leisure, as was 
> advised, and Betty can make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.

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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[John Boocock]

Bloody hell I've only just seen all this because I too was playing 
Bridge (some of this is true)


I think we should have a list referendum as to whether we should re sub 
them.


Anyone able to set up a poll site Dr Mike Yes  / No, Rob Heath Yes / No?

Theresa Boocock-Cameron Esq



On 26/10/2017 08:03, Peter Castlehouse wrote:


I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their unsubscribe button.  
 They have the opportunity to re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, 
and Betty can make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.


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Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Peter Castlehouse]

I didn’t ‘throw them off the list’… I simply clicked their unsubscribe button.  
 They have the opportunity to re-subscribe at their leisure, as was advised, 
and Betty can make the mighty decision whether to allow them back on.

 

Cheers

Pete

 

From: Richard Walker [mailto:richleed...@yahoo.co.uk] 
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:59
To: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>; 'Michael Benjamin' 
<m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?

 

Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 

 

  _  

From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au <mailto:dubca...@iinet.net.au> >
To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.com> >; 'Rob Heath' 
<rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> > 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

 

Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org 
<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org> ] On Behalf Of Michael Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> >
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> ]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.com> >
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net <mailto:m...@leeds-united.net> >; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org <mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org> 
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com 
<mailto:m...@myray.com> <mailto:m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.com> >> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled; I 
believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your distinct 
disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, I hit out.
I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more than 
creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
away—unless you stop.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk <mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> >]
Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net <mailto:m...@leeds-united.net> 
<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net <mailto:m...@leeds-united.net> >>
Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.com> 
<mailto:m...@myray.com <mailto:m...@myray.com> >>

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[{broken-address} Richard Walker]

throwing people off the list even for Non-LU posts ?
Most entertaining posts for a while from Mad MIke IMO. Get them back on. 
  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
 To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
   
Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled; I 
believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your distinct 
disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, I hit out.
I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more than 
creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
away—unless you stop.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>]
Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>>
Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>

Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...

He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not 
exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap and 
a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.

It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am just a 
layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone like, oh, I 
don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?

What? Oh.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson 
<m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>> wrote:
Who me?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:30, Michael Benjamin 
> <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
>
> You amazingly weird twat.
> Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in them. Do 
> you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as you read 
> them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag over your 
> face too.
> I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy 

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Errand Fivefold]

Was it something I said?

;-)
 Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'--

  From: Peter Castlehouse <dubca...@iinet.net.au>
 To: 'Michael Benjamin' <m...@myray.com>; 'Rob Heath' <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> 
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Thursday, 26 October 2017, 7:18
 Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
   
Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.  Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled; I 
believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your distinct 
disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, I hit out.
I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more than 
creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
away—unless you stop.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>]
Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>>
Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>

Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...

He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not 
exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap and 
a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.

It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am just a 
layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone like, oh, I 
don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?

What? Oh.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson 
<m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>> wrote:
Who me?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:30, Michael Benjamin 
> <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
>
> You amazingly weird twat.
> Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in them. Do 
> you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as you read 
> them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag over your 
> face too.
> I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy stuff. 
> However, to obsess over the letters of

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Peter Castlehouse]

Well, you have both prompted an admin response, after your non-LU rantings.
This has gone too far, in every aspect, and is not good protocol in anyone's 
eyes.
Rob and Michael, I have unsubbed you both from the list.   Should Betty decide 
in his wisdom to let you back on board, I am sure he will respond to any 
subscribe request you submit, and treat both requests with the same moderation.
Regards
Pete

-Original Message-
From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
Benjamin
Sent: 26 October 2017 17:05
To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled; I 
believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your distinct 
disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, I hit out.
I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more than 
creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
away—unless you stop.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>]
Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>>
Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>

Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...

He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not 
exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap and 
a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.

It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am just a 
layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone like, oh, I 
don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?

What? Oh.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson 
<m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>> wrote:
Who me?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:30, Michael Benjamin 
> <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
>
> You amazingly weird twat.
> Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in them. Do 
> you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as you read 
> them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag over your 
> face too.
> I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy stuff. 
> However, to obsess over the letters of someone you loath is way up there.
> BTW, although I will not let you run wild, no one is in the least bit 
> interested in our thread. I have written that too-- did you miss in the 
> height of your orgasm?
> Please, pretend I am dead. Don't drag me into your moronic gratuitous insults.
>
> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Michael Benjamin]

Rob, I am going to get both of us thrown out. You know fine well just what you 
did. You pour over every post. Stop pissiing around. Why you even bother beats 
me. Time after time you are told—leave Isreal out. And you pull it back in. 
This last thread was not started by you. Nor did you mention Israel. When 
Israel was mentioned, it was not by you. The remark was made in good faith. 
You, in your never-ending warped way, quoted a post which shows what a sick 
perverted deviant you are. And when that happens, with me, the shit hit the fan.
I will not leave the group; you will not have that pleasure—but to be thrown 
out fighting you would be more than great.
Even now, you cannot let the matter drop. Do you not realise it interests no 
one, but you plough on.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
Sent: 26 October 2017 08:55
To: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>
Cc: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin 
<m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
You will not have the last word.
You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I was 
flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may be. The 
age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish Betty would 
permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile posts. But I will 
not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for you to be expelled; I 
believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However, when your distinct 
disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner concerning me, I hit out.
I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how 
absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither 
remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more than 
creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody immature 
and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But when it comes 
to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and not going 
away—unless you stop.

From: Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>]
Sent: 26 October 2017 02:16
To: Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>>
Cc: Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>>; 
leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>

Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)

Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...

He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not 
exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap and 
a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.

It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am just a 
layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone like, oh, I 
don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?

What? Oh.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson 
<m...@leeds-united.net<mailto:m...@leeds-united.net>> wrote:
Who me?

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:30, Michael Benjamin 
> <m...@myray.com<mailto:m...@myray.com>> wrote:
>
> You amazingly weird twat.
> Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in them. Do 
> you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as you read 
> them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag over your 
> face too.
> I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy stuff. 
> However, to obsess over the letters of someone you loath is way up there.
> BTW, although I will not let you run wild, no one is in the least bit 
> interested in our thread. I have written that too-- did you miss in the 
> height of your orgasm?
> Please, pretend I am dead. Don't drag me into your moronic gratuitous insults.
>
> Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> Community Psychiatrist.
>
> SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> PHONE: +972-505-317772<tel:%2B972-505-317772>
> BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> myRay: Online CBT
>
> |-Original Message-
> |From: Leedslist 
> [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org>] On 
> Behalf Of Matt
> |Anderson
> |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk<mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>>
> |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org<mailto:leedslist@gn.apc.org>
> |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU (ish)
> |
> |Just noticed big order comin

Re: [LU] non LU......well, actually, that's the point......LU (ish)

[Rob Heath]

Has anybody got any clue what this lunatic is burbling on about?

I think he's finally cracked.

Physician, heal thyself.

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 5:34 AM, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:

> You will not have the last word.
> You may cringe out there – but your type is known well to me. Even so, I
> was flabbergasted to see you saving; researching past posts. That is as may
> be. The age of Jews running from cretins like you is long over. I wish
> Betty would permanently ban both of us. I cringe when I read your puerile
> posts. But I will not leave—I prefer being thrown out. I do not call for
> you to be expelled; I believe in freedom of speech; even for you. However,
> when your distinct disgusting foibles hoist themselves on us in a manner
> concerning me, I hit out.
> I do not mind anyone referring to Israel and me. I was revolted to see how
> absorbed and dedicated you are. You quoted a letter of mine I neither
> remembered and certainly did not archive. You did, and that makes you more
> than creepy—it makes you one sick fucker.
> You are in education. God help us all. Your writing style is bloody
> immature and your racism pathological. As I said, that is as may be. But
> when it comes to me or mine—it is a major issue. An issue not resolved and
> not going away—unless you stop.
>
>
>
> *From:* Rob Heath [mailto:rhe...@hkis.edu.hk]
> *Sent:* 26 October 2017 02:16
> *To:* Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> *Cc:* Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com>; leedslist@gn.apc.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
>
>
>
> Re the strange contribution from Dr. Bizarro...
>
>
>
> He seems to have invented some imagined insult that absolutely does not
> exist...he seems to seesaw between a reasonable, cheerful chap
> and a vile, vicious, venomous bile-spitting Mr. Furious.
>
>
>
> It seems like a classic case of paranoid schizophrenia to me. But I am
> just a layman. Isn't it a shame that we haven't got, on this list, someone
> like, oh, I don't know, a community psychiatrist or something?
>
>
>
> What? Oh.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Matt Anderson <m...@leeds-united.net>
> wrote:
>
> Who me?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> > On 25 Oct 2017, at 18:30, Michael Benjamin <m...@myray.com> wrote:
> >
> > You amazingly weird twat.
> > Imagine storing all my posts and remembering when to and what was in
> them. Do you wear kinky gear and sit in dark room playing with yourself as
> you read them-- under your picture of Eva Braun.  Try putting a plastic bag
> over your face too.
> > I deal with really sick people, and I have seen some bloody creepy
> stuff. However, to obsess over the letters of someone you loath is way up
> there.
> > BTW, although I will not let you run wild, no one is in the least bit
> interested in our thread. I have written that too-- did you miss in the
> height of your orgasm?
> > Please, pretend I am dead. Don't drag me into your moronic gratuitous
> insults.
> >
> > Dr  Michael Benjamin,
> > Community Psychiatrist.
> >
> > SKYPE: BEDENOGA
> > PHONE: +972-505-317772
> > BLOG: Times Of Israel ||Quora ||Jerusalem Post
> > AMAZON AUTHORS PAGE;
> > myRay: Online CBT
> >
> > |-Original Message-
> > |From: Leedslist [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Matt
> > |Anderson
> > |Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 11:30 AM
> > |To: Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk>
> > |Cc: leedslist@gn.apc.org
> > |Subject: Re: [LU] non LU..well, actually, that's the point..LU
> (ish)
> > |
> > |Just noticed big order coming in from Israel
> > |
> > |Sent from my iPhone
> > |
> > |> On 25 Oct 2017, at 08:57, Rob Heath <rhe...@hkis.edu.hk> wrote:
> > |>
> > |> Boys & Girls..
> > |>
> > |> A few months back, I notified this list of the publication of my first
> > |> novel. I told you all that there was a little bit of an LUFC
> > |> connection in there. I thought that, plus list loyalty, would be
> > |> enough to persuade you all to buy it.
> > |>
> > |> However, in the intervening period, I have been surprised to receive a
> > |> grand total of ZERO emails telling me how great/funny/fascinating etc
> > |> the novel is! I can only assume that NONE of you have bought the
> bloody thing!
> > |>
> > |> Come on, be honest...put your hand up if you have bought
> > |> my novel.
> > |>
> > |> H..just as I thought