Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
On 24/08/2011 02:55, Jerry wrote: Update: I noticed on Ron's website, based in England, that he has a Bristol in Gloucestershire for a county. So, just throwing that out - not sure if Bristol and Bristol City are the same or different. The status of Bristol is quite complicated! Bristol was given in county status in 1373, as Ron said. Therefore Bristol is not *in* the county of Bristol, it *is* the county of Bristol, so Bristol, England is correct. Or, if you insist on the 4-field system, put your commas in where you wish! Precisely where you put the commas is another tricky issue. Legacy assumes locations are city, county, state/province, country. In the UK was don't have states or provinces, but we often have villages, or what were once towns in their own right now incorporated into bigger towns but retaining the district name, or larger areas such as Wirral, which is a peninsular within the county of Cheshire. Because Bristol is situated largely within the county of Gloucestershire it is often referred to as Bristol, Gloucestershire. According to the Post Office, there was a time when the correct address for someone living in the city was Bristol, Somerset. And Bristol City is the football club. -- Jenny M Benson Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
On 2011/08/24 03:55, Jerry wrote: Update: I noticed on Ron's website, based in England, that he has a Bristol in Gloucestershire for a county. So, just throwing that out - not sure if Bristol and Bristol City are the same or different. It all depends on which period in history - real history :-) - we're talking about. -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
On 2011/08/24 03:44, Jerry wrote: So, assuming that Bristol City is also in the county of Bristol in England, your input would be like this: Bristol City is an English soccer club! -- Regards, Mike Fry Johannesburg Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
Jerry, I have seen other non-English people record *our* locations in this way. It is incorrect, if only because a space between commas indicates that part of the location is missing. It isn't, it does not exist, and may never have existed. In other words your location is wrong. Now everybody is free to enter as much incorrect information as they wish, but it is my belief that one should not suggest to others that they should adopt bad practice. Make no mistake about it, the 4 field convention was designed by Americans for America, full stop (period - in America). Subsequently its usage has been corrupted. It is not designed for English locations, it does not work for English locations, it is wrong to try and adopt it for English locations - feel free to replace 'English' with 'much of the world outside America'. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:44 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England Hi Ann. Even though the folks in England insist that the four-divisions don't work over there, some of us have made the decision to use four divisions worldwide and make them fit because it does produce a standard that works really great in the sorting of the place names. I use the format as follows: City or Village, County, State or Province, COUNTRY So, assuming that Bristol City is also in the county of Bristol in England, your input would be like this: Bristol City, Bristol, , ENGLAND I left the third position blank within commas because apparently there is no STATE or PROVINCE in England. So, if Bristol City is the city and it is in a county (or the equivalent of a county) called Bristol, I believe the above would be correct for those of us who do the four positions as shown above. I always put my countries in all caps because I think it creates a more visually-friendly output, but that would be optional, of course. Please if anyone argues the point - only discuss on the basis of what would be correct for a four-position standard, not to argue that it does not work for England. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 8/23/2011 8:26 PM, Anne Hollingshead wrote: I use the four place markers for locations. How should I handle Bristol city which is also a county in England ? Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
Jerry, I do have Bristol in, Gloucester in some instances, and I think that it may also be recorded as being in Somerset elsewhere on the site. This is in accordance with the practice of recording locations as they were detailed in the document from which they were obtained. In the header to my list of locations I state that this is the system which I have adopted, and any record may only be one of a number of correct locations. As Jenny says, Bristol City is a football Club (soccer in America), so called to differentiate it from another club called Bristol United. I doubt if one would consider using the latter name in a location. I repeat the location of Bristol is: Bristol, England. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:55 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England Update: I noticed on Ron's website, based in England, that he has a Bristol in Gloucestershire for a county. So, just throwing that out - not sure if Bristol and Bristol City are the same or different. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 8/23/2011 9:44 PM, Jerry wrote: Hi Ann. Even though the folks in England insist that the four-divisions don't work over there, some of us have made the decision to use four divisions worldwide and make them fit because it does produce a standard that works really great in the sorting of the place names. I use the format as follows: City or Village, County, State or Province, COUNTRY So, assuming that Bristol City is also in the county of Bristol in England, your input would be like this: Bristol City, Bristol, , ENGLAND I left the third position blank within commas because apparently there is no STATE or PROVINCE in England. So, if Bristol City is the city and it is in a county (or the equivalent of a county) called Bristol, I believe the above would be correct for those of us who do the four positions as shown above. I always put my countries in all caps because I think it creates a more visually-friendly output, but that would be optional, of course. Please if anyone argues the point - only discuss on the basis of what would be correct for a four-position standard, not to argue that it does not work for England. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 8/23/2011 8:26 PM, Anne Hollingshead wrote: I use the four place markers for locations. How should I handle Bristol city which is also a county in England ? Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
No problem, Shirley. It just goes to show that not everything which comes out of America is good for us - I'm not anti-American btw, I enjoyed working for an American company for many years (and they pay my pension). The only disadvantage is that, as one would expect, the Geo-locator no longer works properly. Not a major problem as Google Maps is just as good, if not better! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Shirley Richardson Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England Re the 4 fields convention- oops sorry I have mentioned it- lol. I have been trying to do the right thing and have been struggling with my New Zealand and UK addresses. ie blank commas everywhere. Thankyou Ron, that makes life so much easier for me. Shirley - Original Message - From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England Anne, Providing it is after 1373 the quite simply “Bristol, England†would be correct. Please don’t mention the 4 field convention – it is not designed for us and doesn’t work! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Anne Hollingshead Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:26 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England I use the four place markers for locations. How should I handle Bristol city which is also a county in England ? Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:45:31 +0100, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: because a space between commas indicates that part of the location is missing Can you cite a source for this statement? ;-) Instead of a space one could enter N/A for not applicable. Maybe even use privacy brackets if one doesn't want it to appear in reports. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:25:00 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: Instead of a space one could enter N/A for not applicable. Maybe even use privacy brackets if one doesn't want it to appear in reports. One other suggestion while I'm thinking about it. For the long location name I try to stick with the 4 field convention because it makes the Location List easier to use. BUT I use the short location name for how I would like the name to appear in reports. IOW, I use the short location name as the display name. I have my cake and ate it too! -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:59:17 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: One other suggestion while I'm thinking about it. For the long location name I try to stick with the 4 field convention because it makes the Location List easier to use. BUT I use the short location name for how I would like the name to appear in reports. IOW, I use the short location name as the display name. I have my cake and ate it too! And don't forget that most of the reports have the ability to suppress those extra commas. So just because I see A, , C, D on my screen, A, C, D is what gets published. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Font Size
For the left pane of the name list: Options Zoom Name List There are also options for zooming the tab list and Notes. Unfortunately the tab lists option only applies to those tabs, like sources, family and events which are lists. The Edit, LDS and Detail tab do not respond to the tab lists font setting. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 23/08/2011 6:40 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Is there a way to globally adjust font sizes in Legacy? I've enlarged the font on the Family and Individual views, and that carries over to some of the screens but I can't find a way to enlarge fonts on others, especially the Source Clipboard and left pane of the Name List. Using v 7.5.0.112 and Windows 7. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Check Repair
It is a way the programmers speed up the access to data. Everyone has an entry in the AKA table even if the have no AKA entered. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 24/08/2011 1:36 AM, Anne Hollingshead wrote: Thanks Sherry but I don't see how there are alternate names for people I have so little information on. I am concerned that I have done something wrong in entering my data. Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
Can you cite a source for this statement? ;-) Ron Ferguson et al; various; 2000 - 2011 :-)! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Dennis M. Kowallek Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:25 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 10:45:31 +0100, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: because a space between commas indicates that part of the location is missing Can you cite a source for this statement? ;-) Instead of a space one could enter N/A for not applicable. Maybe even use privacy brackets if one doesn't want it to appear in reports. -- Dennis Kowallek (LTools) http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ltools NOTE TO LUG USERS: Use plain text if you want me to read your post. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Weird Error - But Solved
A weird thing happened on the database of my cousin's I'm working on to combine it with our master tree. Suddenly I was not able to cite an existing master source on any of the records. It was greyed out and clicking on it got no response. So, since Add A New Source was not greyed out, I simply added a new source called TEST. That did it - from that point on, I could cite any existing source. Weird, eh? -- Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Facts
Women weren't the only ones to fudge their ages. If I recall correctly, Jack Benny never passed his 39th birthday. We may be getting a tad bit off topic. Bill On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thanks, Connie, for all this detail. I run into this calculating the best date based on multiple somewhat conflicting sources issue a lot and appreciate your insights. To the OP: Sometimes the age on census is a year different just because of the date the census was taken, at least I've found that to be the case with some of my ancestors. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 4:14:50 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facts It is perfectly acceptable to use the best source for a fact. For example, if I have an original marriage record, I cite that for the date and location of a marriage, rather than a book of compiled marriage records. Or, if I've been to a cemetery and saw a tombstone with my own eyes, I cite that for the date of death and place of burial, rather than a book of cemetery inscriptions or FindAGrave. I cite the derivative sources (sometimes called secondary sources) only until I've found the original source (sometimes called primary source). The example you gave is a bit more complicated, however, because it involves conflicting evidence, not just original vs. derivative sources. For a date of arrival/immigration event, I would cite the steamship arrival records (assuming they are originals, or images of originals) and related immigration records, not the census. However, I would still have a census or residence event, and I would cite the census for that. In my transcription of the census, I would transcribe it exactly, and probably make a separate note or source detail comment that I know the date of immigration in the census record is wrong because of the passenger list. This assumes that you're certain there wasn't a second person of the same name who arrived on a different date. I am of the firm belief that no genealogy program is the only tool one can or should use in genealogy. For more complicated situations, I write a separate detailed research report, proof summary, or proof argument in a word processing program, with tables, charts, and proper source citations. Then, I cite that document in my database, with a brief summary and link to the document. For example, I have this summary in Legacy: John Doe could have been born as early as Jun 1807 or as late as 1 Jun 1815. Based upon currently available data, however, the most likely range for his birth is about 1811 to 1812. This seems to be the most frequently calculated date, and is consistent with the ages recorded in the earliest available documents. Only one record, the 1900 census, explicitly states a birth year (1809), but given his advanced age, his illiteracy, and the fact that he was an inmate of the county poor farm, it is probably not as credible as the ages recorded in earlier census records. I entered his birth as Abt 1811-1812, and my source citation for his birth date reads: Solomon Morgan Age Data, report prepared by Connie Sheets, (address), 10 Feb 2011; compiled from ages stated in obituary, state, and federal census records. Because the obituary, state, and federal census records are entered, transcribed and cited in Legacy as separate events, and because my Word document also contains detailed source citations, I don't see the need to cite them again for his birth date. Others will choose differently, but this is what works for me. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/
Re: [LegacyUG] Font Size
In Windows 7, there are three options - Smaller, Medium and Larger. Windows Vista has only two options. If you click on the Apply or OK button, then your selection for resolution shoud be respected. If not, then you have a problem with Windows I have the resolution adjusted on bothy my 64 bit Vista laptop and my 64-bit Windows 7 PC. Sincerely, Sherry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 10:32 PM, Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net wrote: Hello Sherry: I've already had the fonts set to the medium (125%) option which seems to be the only one available other than the 100% default. The screen resolution on my 15 LCD monitor is set to 1024 x 768 and I've tried lowering that but it doesn't seem to stick (I didn't find an apply button). I had tried the magnifier before but probably gave up on it too soon. After your positive recommendation I'll go back and practice with it some more. I've already tried it on the Source Clipboard and it seems to work very nicely there, especially when sized to fit the Text/Comments field; just takes some getting used to. Many thanks for your suggestions. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Font Size
That's super, Brian. In many years of using Legacy I never noticed that zoom option on the Name List. Thanks! Kirsten -Original Message- From: Brian/Support Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:01 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Font Size For the left pane of the name list: Options Zoom Name List There are also options for zooming the tab list and Notes. Unfortunately the tab lists option only applies to those tabs, like sources, family and events which are lists. The Edit, LDS and Detail tab do not respond to the tab lists font setting. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 23/08/2011 6:40 PM, Kirsten Bowman wrote: Is there a way to globally adjust font sizes in Legacy? I've enlarged the font on the Family and Individual views, and that carries over to some of the screens but I can't find a way to enlarge fonts on others, especially the Source Clipboard and left pane of the Name List. Using v 7.5.0.112 and Windows 7. Kirsten Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Facts
I have seen the same thing with men on my family tree. My original question was not confined to age, though, just info for which there is contradictory and more reliable evidence available, and there were a number of good suggestions offered. Thanks! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Thunderbolt smartphone - Reply message - From: Willard Ellis willardell...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Facts Date: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 8:27 am Women weren't the only ones to fudge their ages. If I recall correctly, Jack Benny never passed his 39th birthday. We may be getting a tad bit off topic. Bill On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Paula Ryburn paula.ryb...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Thanks, Connie, for all this detail. I run into this calculating the best date based on multiple somewhat conflicting sources issue a lot and appreciate your insights. To the OP: Sometimes the age on census is a year different just because of the date the census was taken, at least I've found that to be the case with some of my ancestors. --Paula in Texas Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams From: Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, August 17, 2011 4:14:50 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Facts It is perfectly acceptable to use the best source for a fact. For example, if I have an original marriage record, I cite that for the date and location of a marriage, rather than a book of compiled marriage records. Or, if I've been to a cemetery and saw a tombstone with my own eyes, I cite that for the date of death and place of burial, rather than a book of cemetery inscriptions or FindAGrave. I cite the derivative sources (sometimes called secondary sources) only until I've found the original source (sometimes called primary source). The example you gave is a bit more complicated, however, because it involves conflicting evidence, not just original vs. derivative sources. For a date of arrival/immigration event, I would cite the steamship arrival records (assuming they are originals, or images of originals) and related immigration records, not the census. However, I would still have a census or residence event, and I would cite the census for that. In my transcription of the census, I would transcribe it exactly, and probably make a separate note or source detail comment that I know the date of immigration in the census record is wrong because of the passenger list. This assumes that you're certain there wasn't a second person of the same name who arrived on a different date. I am of the firm belief that no genealogy program is the only tool one can or should use in genealogy. For more complicated situations, I write a separate detailed research report, proof summary, or proof argument in a word processing program, with tables, charts, and proper source citations. Then, I cite that document in my database, with a brief summary and link to the document. For example, I have this summary in Legacy: John Doe could have been born as early as Jun 1807 or as late as 1 Jun 1815. Based upon currently available data, however, the most likely range for his birth is about 1811 to 1812. This seems to be the most frequently calculated date, and is consistent with the ages recorded in the earliest available documents. Only one record, the 1900 census, explicitly states a birth year (1809), but given his advanced age, his illiteracy, and the fact that he was an inmate of the county poor farm, it is probably not as credible as the ages recorded in earlier census records. I entered his birth as Abt 1811-1812, and my source citation for his birth date reads: Solomon Morgan Age Data, report prepared by Connie Sheets, (address), 10 Feb 2011; compiled from ages stated in obituary, state, and federal census records. Because the obituary, state, and federal census records are entered, transcribed and cited in Legacy as separate events, and because my Word document also contains detailed source citations, I don't see the need to cite them again for his birth date. Others will choose differently, but this is what works for me. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on
Re: [LegacyUG] Search replace
When I clean up my Master Location List, I do the following: 1) click Sort and move one of the Sorted order fields up or down so the sort order will be different (doesn't matter because we will sort it back to normal after). This is important if you have more than the one required blank location at the top of the list. The extra blank locations are caused by a flaw in LegacyFS when it pulls locations from nFS. Click OK to execute the new sort order. 2) click Sort again and change the Sorted order fields back to the sequence you prefer. There should be only one blank location at the top of the table after this sort. If you Show List on this blank location it will tell you that it is used by Legacy as a blank record. check the box to remove USA and United States 3) click Options then Expand/Contract Location Parts a) check all the Parts to Work On boxes b) check the Remove USA and United States box (you can put them back later if you prefer but for now it will aid in matching up duplicate locations) c) set the radio button All Locations in List under Records to Change (unless you prefer another choice) d) click Continue and wait for the table to be modified 4) click Options then Combine Duplicates and then Yes to automatically combine all the duplicate locations in the table then wait for it to finish. If there were duplicates, it will report how many were combined. 5) click Options then Purge Unused and then Yes to remove the locations which are not linked to any records in the database. If locations were purged, a report is produced and you can view it if you wish. 6) Now that the above functions have cleaned up quite a few things in the locations table, I am ready to use Search and Replace on the table to fix erroneous abbreviations, mis-spellings, etc. The search and replace works much like a word processor except only on the Find where field in the database. Examples follow (quote marks are used to show included spaces - do not include the quote marks in your find or replace fields): Find what Replacement text How to Find Mass. Massachusetts Anywhere in field Mass Massachusetts Ends with Conn. Connecticut Anywhere in field Conn Connecticut Ends with Co., County, Anywhere in field Co, County, Anywhere in field Notice the space before the Co. and the comma after the Co are important in the Find what string and the same space and comma are important in the Replacement text string. Observe that the period in Mass. makes the string unique enough to be found anywhere in the field. Without the period in Mass you should only replace at the end of the field otherwise you could change Massachusetts to Massachusettsachusetts which would not be very desirable so that replacement is limited to the end of field only. Also be sure to always set the radio button in How to Replace to Replace only found text with replacement text otherwise everything that was in the field will be gone and just the replacement text will remain. One last tip. Check the box at the bottom of the search and replace window called Come back to this screen after the Search and Replace. This causes the program to stay in the Search and Replace tool until you are finished with all your searches. You can even use the search and replace to simply locate information in any field of the database and then either Skip to bypass the replacement or make the Replacement text the same as the Find what field so that even if you accidentally click Replace there would be no change. As has been mentioned elsewhere, the Find where field for the long location name in the Master Location List is Lists-Location and the short location name is Lists-Location Short. You can just as easily use the Search and Replace tool on any of the fields in the database. Ron Taylor Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Show Step Children on BookRpt-Descendant Narrative
From earlier emails it seems it can not be done. I.e. Show step children on second husbands BookRpt Narrative Descencent rpt. I have concluded that the Report Specification seems to be that the BookRpt Narriative Descendent Rpt only shows blood descendants. Stepping and halving wont cause non blood step/half children to show. I tried 2 ways. 1) Innocently, and incorrectly, I entered the second wife's prior children (two) as children of her and her second husband. Then I set the realtionship between these children to the second husband as 'step'. They show in screen family view normally. Default to biological-like. No '1/2'. The BookRpt Narrative Descendant ALMOST did the trick. It showed the second husband's first marrage and their kid. It showed the second husband's second marriage with the kids shown as normal kids. It commented that the kids relationship to the husband was 'step'. So far, so good. The only 'wrong' thing was the narration said 'THEY' had the following children (the second wife's prior children). Which biologically they did not. So I tried reality: 2) I unlinked the second wife's prior children from the second marriage. I relinked the second wifes children to a new marriage of the second wife and her first husband. This is biologically correct. The second husband's first marriage remained biologically correct. Then I got the second wife's prior children back into her second marriage (and also the second husband's first marriage child), I forget how, but they are in the screen family view marked there as '1/2' and I set the kids relationship to the second marriage husband and wife as 'Step' appropriately.This marriage also shows the husbands kid from his first marriage as '1/2'. You can tell who the kids are '1/2' to by their last name. If the 'second' husband is selected, from the second marriage, his BookRpt Narriate Descendant Rpt shows his first wife and blood kid from first marriage, and second marriage, but- no second marriage 'step' children. If the second wife is selected, from the second marriage, it shows her first marriage and blood kids from her first marriage, and second husband, but no 'step' from second marriage. . I can not find a way to show all the kids in one aforementioned report. So the Report Specification seems to be that the BookRpt Narriative Descendent Rpt only shows blood descendants. Stepping and halving doesn't help.Any one see it differently? So, what we need is just a little flag on the Marriage intersection that means 'show step children'. Comments-- (end) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Search replace
Sorry, I had to edit a couple of errors in that previous instruction. Here is a cleaner version. -- When I clean up my Master Location List, I do the following: 1) click Sort and move one of the Sorted order fields up or down so the sort order will be different (doesn't matter because we will sort it back to normal after). This is important if you have more than the one required blank location at the top of the list. The extra blank locations are caused by a flaw in LegacyFS when it pulls locations from nFS. Click OK to execute the new sort order. 2) click Sort again and change the Sorted order fields back to the sequence you prefer. There should be only one blank location at the top of the table after this sort. If you Show List on this blank location it will tell you that it is used by Legacy as a blank record. 3) click Options then Expand/Contract Location Parts a) check all the Parts to Work On boxes b) check the Remove USA and United States box (you can put them back later if you prefer but for now it will aid in matching up duplicate locations) c) set the radio button All Locations in List under Records to Change (unless you prefer another choice) d) click Continue and wait for the table to be modified 4) click Options then Combine Duplicates and then Yes to automatically combine all the duplicate locations in the table then wait for it to finish. If there were duplicates, it will report how many were combined. 5) click Options then Purge Unused and then Yes to remove the locations which are not linked to any records in the database. If locations were purged, a report is produced and you can view it if you wish. 6) Now that the above functions have cleaned up quite a few things in the locations table, I am ready to use Search and Replace on the table to fix erroneous abbreviations, mis-spellings, etc. The search and replace works much like a word processor except only on the Find where field in the database. Examples follow (quote marks are used to show included spaces - do not include the quote marks in your find or replace fields): Find what Replacement text How to Find Mass. Massachusetts Anywhere in field Mass Massachusetts Ends with Conn. Connecticut Anywhere in field Conn Connecticut Ends with Co., County, Anywhere in field Co, County, Anywhere in field Notice the space before the Co. and the comma after the Co are important in the Find what string and the same space and comma are important in the Replacement text string. Observe that the period in Mass. makes the string unique enough to be found anywhere in the field. Without the period in Mass you should only replace at the end of the field otherwise you could change Massachusetts to Massachusettsachusetts which would not be very desirable so that replacement is limited to the end of field only. Also be sure to always set the radio button in How to Replace to Replace only found text with replacement text otherwise everything that was in the field will be gone and just the replacement text will remain. Once all the Search and Replace modifications have been made, run steps 4 and 5 again to combine newly formed duplicates resulting from your editing. 7) One last tip. Check the box at the bottom of the search and replace window called Come back to this screen after the Search and Replace. This causes the program to stay in the Search and Replace tool until you are finished with all your searches. You can even use the search and replace to simply locate information in any field of the database and then either Skip to bypass the replacement or make the Replacement text the same as the Find what field so that even if you accidentally click Replace there would be no change. As has been mentioned elsewhere, the Find where field for the long location name in the Master Location List is Lists-Location and the short location name is Lists-Location Short. You can just as easily use the Search and Replace tool on any of the fields in the database. Ron Taylor Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show Step Children on BookRpt-Descendant Narrative
Todd, If I understand you correctly, it would seem that in your process 1) you arrived at the nearest you can get to the correct resolution of the question albeit via an incorrect entry. As I understand it for the step children to appear as such then they have to be linked to both the biological and step parent(s). I am less than certain that to say the usage of the phrase they had is incorrect. One could realistically argue that as at least one of them did have step children then the phrase is as accurate as can be. Actually it is quite common to see this. Note also that the kids will be shown with two sets of parents, again this is usual. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Todd B Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Show Step Children on BookRpt-Descendant Narrative From earlier emails it seems it can not be done. I.e. Show step children on second husbands BookRpt Narrative Descencent rpt. I have concluded that the Report Specification seems to be that the BookRpt Narriative Descendent Rpt only shows blood descendants. Stepping and halving wont cause non blood step/half children to show. I tried 2 ways. 1) Innocently, and incorrectly, I entered the second wife's prior children (two) as children of her and her second husband. Then I set the realtionship between these children to the second husband as 'step'. They show in screen family view normally. Default to biological-like. No '1/2'. The BookRpt Narrative Descendant ALMOST did the trick. It showed the second husband's first marrage and their kid. It showed the second husband's second marriage with the kids shown as normal kids. It commented that the kids relationship to the husband was 'step'. So far, so good. The only 'wrong' thing was the narration said 'THEY' had the following children (the second wife's prior children). Which biologically they did not. So I tried reality: 2) I unlinked the second wife's prior children from the second marriage. I relinked the second wifes children to a new marriage of the second wife and her first husband. This is biologically correct. The second husband's first marriage remained biologically correct. Then I got the second wife's prior children back into her second marriage (and also the second husband's first marriage child), I forget how, but they are in the screen family view marked there as '1/2' and I set the kids relationship to the second marriage husband and wife as 'Step' appropriately.This marriage also shows the husbands kid from his first marriage as '1/2'. You can tell who the kids are '1/2' to by their last name. If the 'second' husband is selected, from the second marriage, his BookRpt Narriate Descendant Rpt shows his first wife and blood kid from first marriage, and second marriage, but- no second marriage 'step' children. If the second wife is selected, from the second marriage, it shows her first marriage and blood kids from her first marriage, and second husband, but no 'step' from second marriage. . I can not find a way to show all the kids in one aforementioned report. So the Report Specification seems to be that the BookRpt Narriative Descendent Rpt only shows blood descendants. Stepping and halving doesn't help.Any one see it differently? So, what we need is just a little flag on the Marriage intersection that means 'show step children'. Comments-- (end) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Splitting Files
I am trying to split my database into 4 family groups. Following the directions provide by Legacy, I create a Sutton family line with my father. When completed I get all my Sutton line but my Jones (mother) line is also included. When I did the same with my wife's family was able to create 2 databases without the duplicate lines. Not sure why it works with one family but not the other. Any help would be appreciated. Dennis Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
Hi Dennis, I am trying to split my database into 4 family groups. Following the directions provide by Legacy, I create a Sutton family line with my father. When completed I get all my Sutton line but my Jones (mother) line is also included. Have you unlinked the JONESes from the SUTTONs in the new database? If not, do that. Then pick an unused Tag - do a search on a specific Tag number to see if it's being used at the moment or not, if you're not sure. Do it anyway, so you don't make a mistake at this early point that would ruin the resulting database. Search Find Detailed Search Look for Individual, where Tag # equals Tagged (Clear List before this search should be selected) Go to the Tree Finder (View Tree Finder), and click on Refresh to make sure the list is up to date. Now you will have a list of at least two trees - the SUTTON one that you want to keep, and others including the JONES family that you've just unlinked. Click on a tree you don't want. Select the unused Tag number. Click on Tag the Entire Tree of the Highlighted Individual. Repeat for all unwanted trees. Now everyone who is not in the tree(s) that you want to keep in this file are tagged with your selected Tag number. Go to Advanced Deleting (Tools Advanced Deleting). Select your chosen Tag number. Choose whether to retain the tick in the box Confirm Each Deletion or not*. The radio button Delete all Individuals tagged on: should be highlighted already - that's the one you want. When you're ready, click on the Apply button. When that is finished, you should only have the tree(s) you wanted to keep in that file. * The recommended action here is to confirm each deletion, and that's a good idea to make sure you don't make a mistake. However, when I'm working through this exercise, I'm usually working on a copy of my main database which is quickly and easily reconstructed if I make an error - and I'm usually deleting hundreds, if not thousands, of individuals, so confirming each one would be extremely tedious to the point where I'd stop noticing who was presented for confirmation and make a mistake anyway. Make your own choice, based on your own needs and skills. Always have a backup of some sort, whether it be a copy of the file or an actual backup run just before you start the exercise. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Show Step Children on BookRpt-Descendant Narrative
Ron, Thank you for the comments. Seems I'm not far offbase on the alternatives available here. I agree Process 1 is the best and simplest so far. And it turns out I can get, in the screen Family view the '1/2' in the child names. Thanks. Todd. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Todd, If I understand you correctly, it would seem that in your process 1) you arrived at the nearest you can get to the correct resolution of the question albeit via an incorrect entry. As I understand it for the step children to appear as such then they have to be linked to both the biological and step parent(s). I am less than certain that to say the usage of the phrase they had is incorrect. One could realistically argue that as at least one of them did have step children then the phrase is as accurate as can be. Actually it is quite common to see this. Note also that the kids will be shown with two sets of parents, again this is usual. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Todd B Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 9:40 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Show Step Children on BookRpt-Descendant Narrative From earlier emails it seems it can not be done. I.e. Show step children on second husbands BookRpt Narrative Descencent rpt. I have concluded that the Report Specification seems to be that the BookRpt Narriative Descendent Rpt only shows blood descendants. Stepping and halving wont cause non blood step/half children to show. I tried 2 ways. 1) Innocently, and incorrectly, I entered the second wife's prior children (two) as children of her and her second husband. Then I set the realtionship between these children to the second husband as 'step'. They show in screen family view normally. Default to biological-like. No '1/2'. The BookRpt Narrative Descendant ALMOST did the trick. It showed the second husband's first marrage and their kid. It showed the second husband's second marriage with the kids shown as normal kids. It commented that the kids relationship to the husband was 'step'. So far, so good. The only 'wrong' thing was the narration said 'THEY' had the following children (the second wife's prior children). Which biologically they did not. So I tried reality: 2) I unlinked the second wife's prior children from the second marriage. I relinked the second wifes children to a new marriage of the second wife and her first husband. This is biologically correct. The second husband's first marriage remained biologically correct. Then I got the second wife's prior children back into her second marriage (and also the second husband's first marriage child), I forget how, but they are in the screen family view marked there as '1/2' and I set the kids relationship to the second marriage husband and wife as 'Step' appropriately.This marriage also shows the husbands kid from his first marriage as '1/2'. You can tell who the kids are '1/2' to by their last name. If the 'second' husband is selected, from the second marriage, his BookRpt Narriate Descendant Rpt shows his first wife and blood kid from first marriage, and second marriage, but- no second marriage 'step' children. If the second wife is selected, from the second marriage, it shows her first marriage and blood kids from her first marriage, and second husband, but no 'step' from second marriage. . I can not find a way to show all the kids in one aforementioned report. So the Report Specification seems to be that the BookRpt Narriative Descendent Rpt only shows blood descendants. Stepping and halving doesn't help.Any one see it differently? So, what we need is just a little flag on the Marriage intersection that means 'show step children'. Comments-- (end) Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.comhttp://news.legacyfamilytree.com/ ). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.legacyfamilytree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook
Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
Wendy, I unlinked the parents of my father from the Jones database, leaving only my dad and did the same with the Sutton database, leaving only my mom. Didn't understand the Tag thing. When I did a (ViewTree Finder) my name was only one to appear under each family group. Is this correct? My database has a total of 11000+ names so it isn't small. Dennis On 8/24/2011 5:40 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Dennis, I am trying to split my database into 4 family groups. Following the directions provide by Legacy, I create a Sutton family line with my father. When completed I get all my Sutton line but my Jones (mother) line is also included. Have you unlinked the JONESes from the SUTTONs in the new database? If not, do that. Then pick an unused Tag - do a search on a specific Tag number to see if it's being used at the moment or not, if you're not sure. Do it anyway, so you don't make a mistake at this early point that would ruin the resulting database. Search Find Detailed Search Look for Individual, where Tag # equals Tagged (Clear List before this search should be selected) Go to the Tree Finder (View Tree Finder), and click on Refresh to make sure the list is up to date. Now you will have a list of at least two trees - the SUTTON one that you want to keep, and others including the JONES family that you've just unlinked. Click on a tree you don't want. Select the unused Tag number. Click on Tag the Entire Tree of the Highlighted Individual. Repeat for all unwanted trees. Now everyone who is not in the tree(s) that you want to keep in this file are tagged with your selected Tag number. Go to Advanced Deleting (Tools Advanced Deleting). Select your chosen Tag number. Choose whether to retain the tick in the box Confirm Each Deletion or not*. The radio button Delete all Individuals tagged on: should be highlighted already - that's the one you want. When you're ready, click on the Apply button. When that is finished, you should only have the tree(s) you wanted to keep in that file. * The recommended action here is to confirm each deletion, and that's a good idea to make sure you don't make a mistake. However, when I'm working through this exercise, I'm usually working on a copy of my main database which is quickly and easily reconstructed if I make an error - and I'm usually deleting hundreds, if not thousands, of individuals, so confirming each one would be extremely tedious to the point where I'd stop noticing who was presented for confirmation and make a mistake anyway. Make your own choice, based on your own needs and skills. Always have a backup of some sort, whether it be a copy of the file or an actual backup run just before you start the exercise. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
I'd be interested to see how anyone could fit my rural address into 4 fields - it takes 6 lines if you include 'Scotland' Surely the important thing is to use a system that suits your way of working. US addresses are far more consistent than those outwith the States. I tend to allow 6 lines for addresses as that copes with most eventualities. The US also calls every habitations a 'city' -which seems very alien this side of the Pond. On 24 Aug 2011, at 11:59, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: No problem, Shirley. It just goes to show that not everything which comes out of America is good for us - I'm not anti-American btw, I enjoyed working for an American company for many years (and they pay my pension). The only disadvantage is that, as one would expect, the Geo-locator no longer works properly. Not a major problem as Google Maps is just as good, if not better! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Shirley Richardson Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:13 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England Re the 4 fields convention- oops sorry I have mentioned it- lol. I have been trying to do the right thing and have been struggling with my New Zealand and UK addresses. ie blank commas everywhere. Thankyou Ron, that makes life so much easier for me. Shirley - Original Message - From: Ron Ferguson To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England Anne, Providing it is after 1373 the quite simply “Bristol, England†would be correct. Please don’t mention the 4 field convention – it is not designed for us and doesn’t work! Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ From: Anne Hollingshead Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:26 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England I use the four place markers for locations. How should I handle Bristol city which is also a county in England ? Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
Just to say that I agree with Ron in using county names as they were when the event occurred. This is particularly useful for London locations where something like 'Woolwich, Kent is far more helpful than 'Woolwich, London'. Re the US 4-position system, the answer really is to use whatever system works for you. The US has far new On 24 Aug 2011, at 10:56, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote: Jerry, I do have Bristol in, Gloucester in some instances, and I think that it may also be recorded as being in Somerset elsewhere on the site. This is in accordance with the practice of recording locations as they were detailed in the document from which they were obtained. In the header to my list of locations I state that this is the system which I have adopted, and any record may only be one of a number of correct locations. As Jenny says, Bristol City is a football Club (soccer in America), so called to differentiate it from another club called Bristol United. I doubt if one would consider using the latter name in a location. I repeat the location of Bristol is: Bristol, England. Ron Ferguson http://www.fergys.co.uk/ -Original Message- From: Jerry Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:55 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England Update: I noticed on Ron's website, based in England, that he has a Bristol in Gloucestershire for a county. So, just throwing that out - not sure if Bristol and Bristol City are the same or different. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 8/23/2011 9:44 PM, Jerry wrote: Hi Ann. Even though the folks in England insist that the four-divisions don't work over there, some of us have made the decision to use four divisions worldwide and make them fit because it does produce a standard that works really great in the sorting of the place names. I use the format as follows: City or Village, County, State or Province, COUNTRY So, assuming that Bristol City is also in the county of Bristol in England, your input would be like this: Bristol City, Bristol, , ENGLAND I left the third position blank within commas because apparently there is no STATE or PROVINCE in England. So, if Bristol City is the city and it is in a county (or the equivalent of a county) called Bristol, I believe the above would be correct for those of us who do the four positions as shown above. I always put my countries in all caps because I think it creates a more visually-friendly output, but that would be optional, of course. Please if anyone argues the point - only discuss on the basis of what would be correct for a four-position standard, not to argue that it does not work for England. Jerry - MerriamFamilyTree.org On 8/23/2011 8:26 PM, Anne Hollingshead wrote: I use the four place markers for locations. How should I handle Bristol city which is also a county in England ? Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
The US also has names for small areas. Some that you'll never find on a map. Usually areas outside of official city limits. I know some of these areas in my vicinity, but in other areas, I wouldn't have a clue because most aren't even documented. Census records do mention some. For instance, Groves Patch was a small community outside of Massillon, Ohio. They had a Massillon address because they were in the postal (mail) region. I include Groves Patch because it pinpoints an area. It then becomes a 5 field address. When I started adding my husband's English ancestry, I wisely listened to Ron F. and dropped the 4 field setup. =) When searching addresses, if you invert the order, it's very easy to locate places. Sally In a message dated 8/24/2011 7:03:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jk...@yahoo.com writes: I'd be interested to see how anyone could fit my rural address into 4 fields - it takes 6 lines if you include 'Scotland' Surely the important thing is to use a system that suits your way of working. US addresses are far more consistent than those outwith the States. I tend to allow 6 lines for addresses as that copes with most eventualities. The US also calls every habitations a 'city' -which seems very alien this side of the Pond. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
Hi Dennis, Didn't understand the Tag thing. When I did a (ViewTree Finder) my name was only one to appear under each family group. Is this correct? Tree Finder finds all the separate trees in your database, that is, the people in one tree are not connected (in your database) in any way to the people in another tree. What you see in the list at Tree Finder is the the individual with the lowest RIN. Who may or may not be the person who you recognise as the focus of that tree. So you might need to look a little closer to identify each tree to your understanding. If you have only one tree showing in Tree Finder, check that the people you altered are still unlinked, and make sure you Refresh the Tree Finder, in case something isn't right there. If you have unlinked the right people from their parents, and there's still only one tree, then I think they must be related to each other in another way. The Tag thing is a quick and easy way to identify the people who are not in the tree that you want to keep, and deleting them. Does that clarify it for you? Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
Wendy, Still sounds confusing but as for running the Tree Finder, the only name which shows up on both family trees is me. Would this be correct being I split with the one file at my mother and father and then unlinked my grandparents from each of my parents. Dennis On 8/24/2011 7:43 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Dennis, Didn't understand the Tag thing. When I did a (ViewTree Finder) my name was only one to appear under each family group. Is this correct? Tree Finder finds all the separate trees in your database, that is, the people in one tree are not connected (in your database) in any way to the people in another tree. What you see in the list at Tree Finder is the the individual with the lowest RIN. Who may or may not be the person who you recognise as the focus of that tree. So you might need to look a little closer to identify each tree to your understanding. If you have only one tree showing in Tree Finder, check that the people you altered are still unlinked, and make sure you Refresh the Tree Finder, in case something isn't right there. If you have unlinked the right people from their parents, and there's still only one tree, then I think they must be related to each other in another way. The Tag thing is a quick and easy way to identify the people who are not in the tree that you want to keep, and deleting them. Does that clarify it for you? Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
Wendy, Did find a problem with the file. When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a child. I still don't understand why the split program didn't work with my Sutton link but did work on my wife's side. Dennis On 8/24/2011 7:43 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Dennis, Didn't understand the Tag thing. When I did a (ViewTree Finder) my name was only one to appear under each family group. Is this correct? Tree Finder finds all the separate trees in your database, that is, the people in one tree are not connected (in your database) in any way to the people in another tree. What you see in the list at Tree Finder is the the individual with the lowest RIN. Who may or may not be the person who you recognise as the focus of that tree. So you might need to look a little closer to identify each tree to your understanding. If you have only one tree showing in Tree Finder, check that the people you altered are still unlinked, and make sure you Refresh the Tree Finder, in case something isn't right there. If you have unlinked the right people from their parents, and there's still only one tree, then I think they must be related to each other in another way. The Tag thing is a quick and easy way to identify the people who are not in the tree that you want to keep, and deleting them. Does that clarify it for you? Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
I believe you're talking about unincorporated villages (or hamlets in some areas). That's quite common in rural farm areas where a community doesn't have a large enough population for a tax base to maintain even basic city services. They remain unincorporated, and let the township and county, or even a larger incorporated city, such as Massillion, pick up the tab (though, in the case of using larger city services such as Massillion, the hamlet residents usually pay a service fee to the city for the extension and use of the city's water, sewer, gas, et al). --- On Wed, 8/24/11, salude...@aol.com salude...@aol.com wrote: From: salude...@aol.com salude...@aol.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 6:18 PM The US also has names for small areas. Some that you'll never find on a map. Usually areas outside of official city limits. I know some of these areas in my vicinity, but in other areas, I wouldn't have a clue because most aren't even documented. Census records do mention some. For instance, Groves Patch was a small community outside of Massillon, Ohio. They had a Massillon address because they were in the postal (mail) region. I include Groves Patch because it pinpoints an area. It then becomes a 5 field address. When I started adding my husband's English ancestry, I wisely listened to Ron F. and dropped the 4 field setup. =) When searching addresses, if you invert the order, it's very easy to locate places. Sally In a message dated 8/24/2011 7:03:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jk...@yahoo.com writes: I'd be interested to see how anyone could fit my rural address into 4 fields - it takes 6 lines if you include 'Scotland' Surely the important thing is to use a system that suits your way of working. US addresses are far more consistent than those outwith the States. I tend to allow 6 lines for addresses as that copes with most eventualities. The US also calls every habitations a 'city' -which seems very alien this side of the Pond. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Check Repair
Thanks Brian ! Anne On 24/08/2011 11:05 PM, Brian/Support wrote: It is a way the programmers speed up the access to data. Everyone has an entry in the AKA table even if the have no AKA entered. Brian Customer Support Millennia Corporation br...@legacyfamilytree.com http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. On 24/08/2011 1:36 AM, Anne Hollingshead wrote: Thanks Sherry but I don't see how there are alternate names for people I have so little information on. I am concerned that I have done something wrong in entering my data. Anne Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
I have never been able to get this to work. Report Options ---Format Remove one or more leading commas from locations Report Options ---Format Remove two or more leading commas from locations And don't forget that most of the reports have the ability to suppress those extra commas. So just because I see A, , C, D on my screen, A, C, D is what gets published Anne On 24/08/2011 10:07 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:59:17 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: One other suggestion while I'm thinking about it. For the long location name I try to stick with the 4 field convention because it makes the Location List easier to use. BUT I use the short location name for how I would like the name to appear in reports. IOW, I use the short location name as the display name. I have my cake and ate it too! And don't forget that most of the reports have the ability to suppress those extra commas. So just because I see A, , C, D on my screen, A, C, D is what gets published. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England
The extra comma for the 4 place holder is only needed for the geo-coding. Once you've got the geo-code, you can edit the the location name on the way out before saving. i foten do that for old colonial cites that have since changed name, or cities that have csince changes jurisdiction at the county/state level. I use the modern name and location to geo-code, then edit to the original name before saving. This can be done with European 3 place addresses as well to remove the fourth place comma after geo-coding. --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Anne Hollingshead holl...@melbpc.org.au wrote: From: Anne Hollingshead holl...@melbpc.org.au Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Location for Bristol England To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 8:34 PM I have never been able to get this to work. Report Options ---Format Remove one or more leading commas from locations Report Options ---Format Remove two or more leading commas from locations And don't forget that most of the reports have the ability to suppress those extra commas. So just because I see A, , C, D on my screen, A, C, D is what gets published Anne On 24/08/2011 10:07 PM, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 07:59:17 -0400, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: One other suggestion while I'm thinking about it. For the long location name I try to stick with the 4 field convention because it makes the Location List easier to use. BUT I use the short location name for how I would like the name to appear in reports. IOW, I use the short location name as the display name. I have my cake and ate it too! And don't forget that most of the reports have the ability to suppress those extra commas. So just because I see A, , C, D on my screen, A, C, D is what gets published. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Error 3021 and 'Find' problem
Problem 1 When I try to add a new name to my tree this error pops up. Error getting next deleted MRIN. Error 3021: No current record. Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? THen I have to click No 3 times and up pops the page to add my new person. This happens more right after a new update for the last 4 or 5 years. I have asked for help twice which helped for a short while and back it pops. Problem 2 I have so much info in my notes (all 3 sections) I try to use ‘find’ in a section, I get the first word of what I ask for but after that nothing. Find keeps finding that same word. Have tried all the tricks of ‘finding’ a word and none helps. Is there another way to search my note sections? Beth PS I LOVE legacy and won't use any other tree software. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3021 and 'Find' problem
I have experienced this problem, also, Beth, but only in the last 5 or 6 months. It was happening frequently for a while, but the problem hasn't surfaced in about a month or so. I never pursued digging out the root cause was, so I'm afraid I can't help there. Jean Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3021 and 'Find' problem
Sorry, I should have said I have experienced problem #1. On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Jean Suplick jean.supl...@gmail.comwrote: I have experienced this problem, also, Beth, but only in the last 5 or 6 months. It was happening frequently for a while, but the problem hasn't surfaced in about a month or so. I never pursued digging out the root cause was, so I'm afraid I can't help there. Jean Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3021 and 'Find' problem
Maybe some one will have the answer tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Beth glassbyb...@aol.com To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Sent: Wed, Aug 24, 2011 7:17 pm Subject: [LegacyUG] Error 3021 and 'Find' problem Problem 1 When I try to add a new name to my tree this error pops up. Error getting next deleted MRIN. Error 3021: No current record. Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? THen I have to click No 3 times and up pops the page to add my new person. This happens more right after a new update for the last 4 or 5 years. I have asked for help twice which helped for a short while and back it pops. Problem 2 I have so much info in my notes (all 3 sections) I try to use ‘find’ in a section, I get the first word of what I ask for but after that nothing. Find keeps finding that same word. Have tried all the tricks of ‘finding’ a word and none helps. Is there another way to search my note sections? Beth PS I LOVE legacy and won't use any other tree software. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
In my family I have many 2nd cousin marriages, so I cannot split anything (except everthing). My one 3rd cousin married my 5th cousin, and through that connection we also became 7th cousins on a different line. Leave them together. Rich in LA CA --- On Wed, 8/24/11, Dennis Sutton jersey...@bellsouth.net wrote: From: Dennis Sutton jersey...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Date: Wednesday, August 24, 2011, 5:10 PM Wendy, Did find a problem with the file. When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a child. I still don't understand why the split program didn't work with my Sutton link but did work on my wife's side. Dennis On 8/24/2011 7:43 PM, Wendy Howard wrote: Hi Dennis, Didn't understand the Tag thing. When I did a (ViewTree Finder) my name was only one to appear under each family group. Is this correct? Tree Finder finds all the separate trees in your database, that is, the people in one tree are not connected (in your database) in any way to the people in another tree. What you see in the list at Tree Finder is the the individual with the lowest RIN. Who may or may not be the person who you recognise as the focus of that tree. So you might need to look a little closer to identify each tree to your understanding. If you have only one tree showing in Tree Finder, check that the people you altered are still unlinked, and make sure you Refresh the Tree Finder, in case something isn't right there. If you have unlinked the right people from their parents, and there's still only one tree, then I think they must be related to each other in another way. The Tag thing is a quick and easy way to identify the people who are not in the tree that you want to keep, and deleting them. Does that clarify it for you? Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Splitting Files
Hi Dennis, Still sounds confusing but as for running the Tree Finder, the only name which shows up on both family trees is me. Would this be correct being I split with the one file at my mother and father and then unlinked my grandparents from each of my parents. I don't see how the same person can turn up in two different trees in Tree Finder - that doesn't make sense. Do the two have the same RIN? When I unlink my father's parents, he no longer showed up listed as a child. That's what unlinking does. If it's not the effect you're after, then this isn't the point at which you need to unlink someone. Not knowing your tree, I can't say where the right point is. Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3021 and 'Find' problem
Hi Beth, Problem 1 When I try to add a new name to my tree this error pops up. *Error getting next deleted MRIN.* *Error 3021: No current record.* *Would you like to TRY IT AGAIN? * THen I have to click No 3 times and up pops the page to add my new person. This happens more right after a new update for the last 4 or 5 years. I have asked for help twice which helped for a short while and back it pops. This happens to me every now and then. At the bottom of every post to this list are some links - one of them is for technical support. Click on that, and the page that comes up has another link at the top, Solutions by Error Number - click on that. Now you've got in front of you a list of various error numbers. Find the one that matches the error message you're receiving, click on its link to see what you can do to remedy the problem. I find with this particular error that running a Check/Repair (File File Maintenance Check/Repair) is usually sufficient to clear this problem. Hope this helps. :-) Kind Regards, Wendy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
