Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on a MAC using CrossOver

2015-03-10 Thread Ellen Hilborn
I have been using Legacy under Parallels and haven't had any problems.


On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:47 PM, Mary Tait wrote:

> Thank you Peggy.  Perhaps if we are LOUD enough Legacy will produce Legacy 
> for MAC. ;)I do wish that were the case now.  Perhaps the VMWare Fusion 
> is a solution for me as well.
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> Mary
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>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 12:14 PM, Peggy Natoli Duffy  
>> wrote:
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>> Hi Mary,
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>> I too am a MAC user.
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>> I have VMware Fusion  instead of Cross Over to enable using Legacy.  This 
>> works very well with nothing “garbled” when I add data.
>>
>> I have found that in order to “copy and paste” from a source online into 
>> Legacy, I cannot do that from inside Legacy. I use Google Chrome and “copy” 
>> from there and “paste” into my Legacy.  This prevents extra symbols, etc. 
>> from showing up in Legacy.
>>
>> I continue to ask Legacy Support to write a Legacy program specifically for 
>> MAC as well!
>>
>> Peggy
>>
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>>> On Mar 10, 2015, at 10:44 AM, Mary Tait  wrote:
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>>> Hello,  I am hoping to get some help from anyone using Legacy on a MAC with 
>>> the CrossOver app.  I have everything installed, whereas the Legacy program 
>>> works, all my files are accessible, however if I try to enter data in 
>>> certain places the text becomes garbled.  Specifically, I am adding 
>>> information to the Event/Fact tab, i.e.: Occupation, and once I hit “save” 
>>> there is added garbled text which appears after my typed info.  I have 
>>> tried deleting the event/fact, and retyping and still the same.  The tech 
>>> help people have had me change the RICHTX32.OCX file, but that also did not 
>>> help.  Is there anyone on this list that could give me any other tips or 
>>> ideas to solve this problem?  Thank you in advance.
>>> Mary
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Re: [LegacyUG] File ID in source citation

2014-02-08 Thread Ellen Hilborn
I forgot to mention that this is version 8.0.0.397.  It worked before...
On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:13 AM, Ellen Hilborn wrote:

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> Can anyone tell me why my File ID numbers no longer display in the output 
> preview or in the source labels?   Is it something I did?
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> Ellen Hilborn
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[LegacyUG] File ID in source citation

2014-02-08 Thread Ellen Hilborn

Can anyone tell me why my File ID numbers no longer display in the output 
preview or in the source labels?   Is it something I did?

Ellen Hilborn


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Re: [LegacyUG] Edit Source Detail using Source writer

2014-01-18 Thread Ellen Hilborn
Thank you.  I'm glad it not my imagination or computer


On Jan 18, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Michele/Support wrote:

> This is a known issue that has already been entered into our bug tracking 
> system and assigned to a programmer to fix.
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> From: Ellen Hilborn [mailto:draftd...@cox.net]
> Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 9:16 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Edit Source Detail using Source writer
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> Ame I the only one or has someone else noticed that when entering the detail 
> information that you can't use the tab key to get to the next field if it is 
> not showing?   For instance, with the 1930 Census, the last field showing is 
> Dwelling no.  You have to scroll down before using the tab key to enter the 
> family no.  If you tab without scrolling, you are typing the family number 
> into the surety level.
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> Thanks
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[LegacyUG] Edit Source Detail using Source writer

2014-01-18 Thread Ellen Hilborn
Ame I the only one or has someone else noticed that when entering the detail 
information that you can't use the tab key to get to the next field if it is 
not showing?   For instance, with the 1930 Census, the last field showing is 
Dwelling no.  You have to scroll down before using the tab key to enter the 
family no.  If you tab without scrolling, you are typing the family number into 
the surety level.

Thanks

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Re: [LegacyUG] Same Sex Partnerships/Marriages

2013-12-25 Thread Ellen
I do not record relationships of couples who do not marry.  I also do not 
record all know "best friends" or "pets" or anything else except for Church 
recognized marriages.  If you want that, that is your option.  From the studies 
that I have seen and from all of the rare same-sex pairs that I have known, 
same-sex relationships typically are not "life-long".  Not everyone wants 
Legacy to make this possible, but it sounds like they might have with the below 
info.  I support them in not adding this as a feature.  Legacy hears from the 
few who want it far more often than those of us who are grateful for it not 
being there.

God bless,
Ellen

On Dec 20, 2013, at 5:03 AM, Kathy Thompson wrote:

> Only problem is, this work-around doesn't "stick".
> It dissappears with updates and it seems to disappear between program loads 
> as well.
>
> Need something more permanent in light of today's society and the legality of 
> gay marriage in many countries today - heck even without gay marriage being 
> legal, we should respect and record the life-long partnerships that two 
> people had - we do it for men and women who don't marry, we should be able to 
> do it for same-sex relationships as well
>
> Please don't start on gay rights - I'm mearly putting my two cents forward 
> that this feature is something that is needed for accuracy in recording 
> people, their lives and their relationships.
>
>
> On 20 December 2013 07:00, Sherry/Support  wrote:
> No - but there is an extensive work-around if you're comfortable with using 
> Access.  It's in the KB on our website  
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00549/14/Tips-and-How-Tos/Same-sex-couples.html
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> Sincerely,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Entering rural addresses into the location field

2013-12-25 Thread Ellen
If there was no designation then and the best I can do is the current township, 
then I use that.  I try to get as specific as I can based on whatever 
information I have.  You can also put something in the notes or in an event of 
Residence or something else more appropriate.  Details don't have to be in the 
location field.

God bless,
Ellen

On Dec 25, 2013, at 6:37 PM, Dale B. Watts, P.E. wrote:

> I was wondering how most people enter the addresses or locations for events 
> if the people do not live in an incorporated town or city?  For example, many 
> of my relatives lived on farms in Saline Township, Ralls County, Missouri, 
> United States of America.
> I know that there are several ways to enter the locations, such as [ , Ralls, 
> Missouri, United States] or [Saline Township, Ralls, Missouri, United States] 
> or [Huntington, Ralls, Missouri, United States] where Huntington was the 
> nearest post office.  Is there a standard method?
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> Thanks for your assistance.
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Re: [LegacyUG] With Legacy: Carbonite, Dropbox, SkyDrive, Mozy, etc.?

2013-12-15 Thread Ellen
I use Dropbox with other relatives.  We let each other know when we are working 
on a line.  We download the master of the line, work on it, make a copy in our 
computer, and re-upload.  Then anyone else has to download the master.  It 
takes cooperation and communication, but it works for us.

God bless,
Ellen

On Dec 15, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Dee Ziegler wrote:

> Larry asked a good question, I'd also like to know, what cloud program do 
> other Legacy users prefer? I'm using Windows 7 only for genealogy; 
> unfortunately am a technodunce. Thanks, Dee in Maryland
> ===
> Other than cost what is the difference between Carbonite, Dropbox and 
> SkyDrive? I am using MS Office 365 which includes SkyDrive.
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Re: [LegacyUG] If this is find-a-fault week --

2013-11-22 Thread Ellen
I have wanted to know the number of people by given name if it were easy to 
figure out.  We have so many Abraham's and Daniel's, etc. and it would be great 
to list in our family history book the top 5 or 10 names by century or 
something.  For those of us doing books on our families, it might be helpful.  
I have found that the non-genealogists in the family really like the charts and 
graphs of info that we can provide to them whether they are easily produced by 
Legacy or not.

God bless,
Ellen

On Nov 21, 2013, at 7:55 PM, 2marion wimps wrote:

> Thanks Kathy - different strokes for different folks I guess - I have no 
> interest in the number of Given Names and cannot see any situation where I 
> would be - my interest lies with the people, their backgrounds, history and 
> family - and I can easily see how many John's there were in a certain family 
> - finding out that I had several hundred other John's that had no connection 
> to a particular family would not seem to help me. As I said - different 
> strokes.
> Marion
>
>
> On 22 November 2013 08:34, Kathy Thompson  wrote:
> If a person is doing a one name study, and therefore all the surnames are, 
> for example, Johnson, they might like to know how many John Johnson's there 
> are.
>
> Similarly with a one place study, how many people named George lived in that 
> one place.
>
> Yes, they are statistical counts, but then, if you really think about about 
> it, so is the whole realm of family history, it's all about statistics.
> Statistics that build up and when put together in a logical order, form the 
> bones of the story of a person's life.
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> On 22 November 2013 10:16, 2marion wimps <2wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am struggling to understand why anyone would want a count of people with 
> Given Names - I can understand a count of Surnames but a count of Given Names 
> to me seems purely accountancy fuelled - not Genealogy - perhaps someone 
> could explain the reasoning?
>
> Marion
>
>
> On 21 November 2013 22:17, Brian/Support  wrote:
> Because of the design of the Database you can get easily get that for
> Surnames but not for Forenames. Surnames are stored in a single Master
> Surname List but Given Names are not in a table so Legacy cannot "count"
> occurrences.
>
> To do so for Forenames we would have to parse every Given Name field
> looking for the break between Given Names to Create a list of Forenames.
> We would then have to sort the list and count the duplicates to
> determine how many times John or Jerry are used. This is not impossible
> but it was a statistic report that has never been suggested.
>
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> On 20/11/2013 6:46 PM, singhals wrote:
> > Is there a GOOD kludge to get a COUNT of each name in the
> > database -- as in, how many SMITH surnames, how many John
> > forenames etc etc?
> >
> > I mean, sure, I can print-to-csv an alpha list, parse it in
> > xcel, and run a count that way, but an older version of a
> > different program /used/ to print me such a list
> > automagically in about 4 keystrokes.
> >
> > Cheryl
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Re: [LegacyUG] A technical problem

2013-10-17 Thread Ellen
Carolyn, go to File > File Maintenance > Check/Repair and run it.  All sorts of 
things will clear up upon doing that.

God bless,
Ellen

On Oct 18, 2013, at 12:01 AM, Carolyn wrote:

> This is the first time I have had any trouble with Legacy deluxe version, I
> have the latest build, and I am wondering if anyone else has encountered the
> following please.
>
> 1. When I try to generate a Chronology report, the first page report comes
> up ok, but when I click 'Report' for the final version it won't generate and
> says it is over a hundred pages, for a simple 17 line report.
> 2. When I try to generate the Family Picture Tree report and click 'preview'
> it shows a very small tree with a pile of boxes all on top of each other.
> 3. I tried to generate a Relationship Calculator report for my husband and
> one of his 3rd cousins, when I clicked 'print' it said 'run time error
> 20002 - Lead Error: Invalid bitmap handle.
>
> All this has happened since I let it download the latest update, I run
> Windows 7 on a Dell all in one which is 2 years old.
> Any help or advice would be really appreciated, I find the info at the link
> to the technical help extremely daunting !
>
> Thanks
> Carolyn
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Re: [LegacyUG] Donating Legacy DB and Genealogy Files

2013-08-18 Thread Ellen
Why not look into who is studying those names for a one-name study?  They would 
certainly appreciate adding to their research.  What names are you doing?

God bless,
Ellen

On Aug 18, 2013, at 1:14 PM, Dee Ziegler wrote:

> In my experience, libraries (including the Family History Library in Salt 
> Lake City) and archives (for example, Maryland State Archives) are eager to 
> have a copy of your printed genealogy BOOK. Of course that involves printing, 
> binding, shipping. Although the FHL used to prefer an unbound copy and they'd 
> scan it then bind it themselves, check to see if that's still true. (Of 
> course you could include a CD _with_ the book.) FHL wants a 
> donation/permission form.
>
> As for donating your database -- you could do that to RootsWeb or 
> FamilySearch if you prefer non-commercial sites, or ancestry.com which is a 
> pay site. There are dozens of smaller sites each with their own policies. 
> Myself, I am thinking RootsWeb and FamilySearch. Cheers, Dee in Maryland
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Larry Lee  wrote:
> My relatives are not interested in my research either. Any thoughts on how or 
> where I might donate my Legacy database and other genealogical information? I 
> am thinking of genealogical libraries in Indiana and Missouri, where my 
> parents and several ancestors were from.
>
> I am not LDS but would they want something like this?
>
>
> Larry Lee
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> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Pauline B. Cramer  
> wrote:
> Yes.Definitely continue.  Do not be discouraged by the current lack of 
> interest of your daughters or cousins  Continue adding every scrap of data 
> you find about family members, near and distant, especially details that add 
> life to your records.
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[LegacyUG] Books ready to order

2013-06-29 Thread Ellen
Is it okay to mention on this list when books are being published using Legacy? 
 We have been trying to get the word out and want to be certain to reach 
everyone possible.  I don't know if anyone on this list might know others who 
would be interested in our book series. Also what have been other's experiences 
in dealing with publishers of multi-volume sets?  You can email me privately if 
necessary.

Ellen Kramer
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Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread Ellen
Are you looking for something other than the marriage box where you can say 
that the couple never married and separately you can say that they never had 
children?  We already have that on the upper left corner of the marriage 
editing box.  Or is there something else that you are referring to?

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 20, 2013, at 11:29 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:

> Perhaps a compromise is in order -- if Legacy can't bring itself to split the 
> two statements, at least it could say, " never married and had no known 
> children."
>
> Pat
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Pat Hickin  wrote:
> Amen!!  It seems ridiculous to me that Legacy almost forces us to state as 
> fact something that we can not possiby know!!
>
> Pat
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Tony Rolfe  wrote:
> Can we go back to the original request and forget about all the
> extraneous waffle which has appeared on this subject.  Just because
> Legacy must create a "marriage" record whenever a child is added to a
> parent, it doesn't mean that a real-world marriage actually occurred.
>
> It is frequently easy to tell that a person never married.  It is
> usually impossible to state with any certainty that someone had no children.
>
> Can we please split the "This person never married and had no children"
> fact into two separate facts?
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Tony
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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-18 Thread Ellen
Oh my!  Then we would have genealogists asking relatives for every single 
boyfriend or girlfriend they ever dated.  It's really not relevant nor do some 
older people remember all of that info.  Marriage is what matters because there 
is documentation, women having name changes, and children being born from that 
"relationship."  If we are going to get morality and our cultural back to what 
it should be, we cannot have genealogists leading the way to solidify other 
types of relationships.  We also cannot have people forcing software companies 
to deteriorate their convictions or programming to meet those needs.  What will 
come next?  Some kind of requests to list every pet that someone owned and have 
some special classification for that?  You know there are people out there who 
would be on board with that.  Plenty have disagreed on this matter on this 
list, but someone has to speak up in defense of the other side so no opposing 
responses are necessary.

God bless,
Ellen


On Jun 18, 2013, at 12:10 PM, John Zimmerman wrote:

> Why not simply rename the "Marriage Indormation Window" to call it the 
> "Relationship Information Window"?
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, AZ




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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-18 Thread Ellen
Some of us don't worry about what century we are in.  If the couple had 
children but never married, we can click that option in the marriage box.  
However, I don't record any live-in situations just like I don't record every 
friend that people have or every conflict of friendships that people have.  I 
am just following blood lines and appreciate Legacy not changing from what we 
already have.  It is flexible enough for me.  If someone is printing a report, 
they can truthfully customize it further in there.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Larry Lee wrote:

> John, etal,
>
> I have seen this discussion several times in the past and presented my 
> thoughts to the compendium. I favor being able to assign the proper titles in 
> the labels in Family View.
>
> I dislike having to make my data 'fit' the software! I also prefer not to put 
> minutiae in my notes for things the program should accommodate.
>
> So, I agree. Relationship window is more correct. Allowing the use of 
> relationship titles, as a marriage option, would enable the user to keep 
> their data as they prefer.
>
> Although I am 'old school' I realize we have moved into the 21st century and 
> need to be able to use today's terminology within Legacy.
>
> Larry Lee
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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-18 Thread Ellen

On Jun 18, 2013, at 5:19 PM, Malcolm Williams wrote:

>
> Â Â Â  As an example, I created a record for a man and added a child, and 
> changed the status of the Legacy forced marriage to unmarried. The net result 
> in the descendant narrative report was, (leaving Marriage Status box checked 
> in Report Options): John married someone. Marriage status: unmarried. He had 
> one daughter Jill.  I am being lazy once again in asking - is there anywhere 
> that I can choose to have the married someone phrase not appear or rephrased?

In this situation you have a marriage created even if the marriage event and 
Family View show nothing.

Look at the Individual Edit Page.  At the bottom it should say "This individual 
never married and had no children."  If it is grayed out, then you recorded a 
marriage somehow.

In the Family View, the Spouse Icon under the person's name will be lit.  Go 
into that Spouse Icon and look for the marriage(s) that are there.  Highlight 
the marriage(s) and click Delete on the right side of that box.  This will 
allow you to click on "This individual never married and had no children" if 
you need to.

I've had to do this numbers of times over the years.  It's easy enough to fix.

God bless,
Ellen


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[LegacyUG] Legacy 8 sorting marriages

2013-06-17 Thread Ellen
I know Legacy 7.5 very well, but I haven't noticed that the Potential Problems 
report mentions that marriages are not sorted chronologically.  It can tell 
this for children, but one of our cousins mentioned this to me this evening.  
I'm wondering if that would be possible to pick up in Legacy 8.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 question

2013-06-14 Thread Ellen
Go to Options > Customize > Data Format > Term for Christening > choose Baptism 
or Christening

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 14, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Nancy Porter wrote:

> Is there an individual option to choose between "christening" and
> "baptism" (like burial vs cremated) in the new Legacy 8 instead of the
> existing global option? I ask because I'm confronted with that enigma
> today. :-)
>
> Nancy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Revealed

2013-06-11 Thread Ellen
Rather than having each field highlighted, maybe the entire box could be 
highlighted which would be less busy on the eyes.
God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 11, 2013, at 11:49 AM, Ronald Bernier wrote:

> Who said that you wouldn't be able to change the color scheme?  If you read 
> carefully, the link asks one to vote on what they prefer as the "default" 
> color scheme.  Nowhere does it say that choice will be the only color scheme.
>
> Ron Bernier
> Sent from my iPad
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> On Jun 11, 2013, at 11:44 AM, "mvmc...@aol.com"  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Add my vote to the look of the current Legacy. It's very clear and the 
>> proposed "blue" look may be OK for young eyes but us older folk need an 
>> easily read background.
>>
>> Why can't we choose the color we want?
>>
>>  Marie
>>
>> Marie Varrelman Melchiori, CG, CGL
>> Melchiori Research Services, L.L.C.
>> ---
>> CG, Certified Genealogist and CGL, Certified Genealogical Lecturer are 
>> service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists ® , used under 
>> license by Board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations.
>>
>> In a message dated 6/11/2013 10:54:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
>> m...@cmy.org.uk writes:
>> I agree with Syble when she says "I certainly never considered Legacy Family 
>> View a stale look, in my opinion it is very clear and bright,  they could 
>> have left the 'look' as is".
>> IMHO I don't care about the look, as long as it's legible and fuss-free, my 
>> content is more important!
>> The new "Blue" look is a retrograde step; setting text on a shaded 
>> background may look "fancy" but is harder to read for anyone with impaired 
>> sight. So I hope we will always have a "plain" option.
>> Mary Young
>> www.cmy.org.uk
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8

2013-06-11 Thread Ellen
Maybe the programmers looked at the features of TMG to see if any would be good 
to include if possible.  I don't like FTM or RM at all.  Too  cluttered and I 
cannot figure out how to do reports as I'd like in those programs.  I do like 
the function of Legacy and sometimes have a hard time thinking of any possible 
improvements, but I know there are some that would continue to make it the 
dream software compared to the rest.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 11, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Garry F Bell wrote:

> I am still hoping that they have, at last, provided for High Contrast
> users.  At the moment many boxes and screens, including the Right Hand
> Census page, appear white and blank for the said users even tho' there
> is text contained in them.If TMG, Family Tree Maker and Roots Magic
> can do it surely Legacy can!
>
> Gazza
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Re: [LegacyUG] Index view

2013-06-11 Thread Ellen
The problem that I have with the Index View is that whenever I load a new 
update of Legacy, not just a new version but a new update, those customized 
columns are undone.  Definitely keeps me remembering how to customize, but I 
would prefer that it mainteined my settings.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 11, 2013, at 7:09 AM, Syble Glasscock wrote:

> Good idea.
> Syble
> From: Bernd Hornung 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:51 PM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Index view
>
> Playing around with various aspects of Legacy I came across the Index View 
> and discovered that one could add columns and move the columns around.  But, 
> what I would like to do is  have the relationship column come first (which I 
> have done) and then have it sort by relationship (i.e. list all the same 
> relationships together) so that all the 6th great grandfathers are all 
> together, for instance.  Doesn't do this.
>
> So the next question is:  is there a report that does the same thing?  I 
> can't find one.
>
> I have an Excel spreadsheet prepared from the program I used to use and have 
> it set up with Name, Relationship (to me), date and place of birth, 
> confirmation, ,marriage and death.  I then highlighted the events for which I 
> have the documentation.  This helps me identify where some more searching 
> needs to be done.
>
>  http://www3.telus.net/hornunghouse/Heldt%20Documentation.html
>
> My dream would be that Legacy did this automatically where if I note a source 
> document with a certainty level of 3 or 4, it would shade the event.  This 
> way one could see immediately where documentation is needed.  Just a thought.
>
> Related to this I am slowly moving my document images to the Legacy docs 
> folder and linking them to the individual.  At the same time I can verify the 
> data and determine if the image comes from before I started using Zotero and 
> therefore no citation information.  Drag and drop would be easier.
>
> Thanks for "listening".
>
> Bernie
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Revealed

2013-06-10 Thread Ellen
The new screens are not that freshened up.  The more modern look is to have 
rounded corners on boxes which these screens do not.  Well, not except for the 
inner boxes in the one default view possibility.  But the outer boxes do not 
have that.  I like the set up, but I really don't like the gray shadows on the 
blue default view.  Maybe it will look better once it's done.
God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:12 PM, Ronald Bernier wrote:

> Thank you for the preview Geoff.  Now, I will humbly eat my words – the new 
> screens look very interesting.  It appears that Legacy 8 is ditching the 
> stale look.
>
> Ron Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
>
> From: Geoff Rasmussen [mailto:ge...@legacyusers.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:59 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 Revealed
>
> As promised...
>
> See 
> http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2013/06/legacy-family-tree-8-revealed.html
>
> Thanks,
>
> Geoff Rasmussen
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Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

2013-05-26 Thread Ellen
David, we do have separate documents.  Some are very small for the One-Guy 
lines.  However, some are hundreds of pages with hundreds of photos.  I'm not 
techie with this, but I know that the file size was 400,000+ and Word 2010 
would not respond unless we switched from an .rtf to a Word 97/2003 .doc.  That 
made the file size smaller.  We aren't sure how to put 25 different Legacy 
reports and our introduction together into a single document so that the 
pagination will work out.  I have been thinking of going the route of the 
Publisher in Legacy, but none of the webinars promote that.  There are 
multi-line reports, but that is within the same Legacy file.

We have each immigrant in a separate file because of genealogists for a century 
identifying each line by a letter.  It's been easier that way to be sure we are 
dealing with the proper lettered line to have them separated.  I don't know 
though if Legacy will let us do a book in the Publisher with saving from 
multiple family files.  So far my attempts have not worked with that.  I LOVE 
Legacy in every way except for this final stage of publication.

God bless,
Ellen

On May 26, 2013, at 10:53 AM, David Abernathy wrote:

> As far as the images go, if they are "Linked" to the location of where you 
> are saving them, then that same location will need to be available to 
> everyone that will be opening the rtf or doc files.
>
> The best thing to do is have a separate folder that you can copy and provide 
> to the other users.
>
> For an example, the Legacy file name is JonesFamily, I would have a subfolder 
> under the same folder that the JonesFamily file is located in, named 
> JoneFamilyImages.
> Now these reports can be made and using the same folder of images from the 
> same subfolder of images.
>
> This way the Legacy file, and/or the reports that have "Links" to this 
> subfolder can be copied to a CD, USB drive or other external devices and the 
> images would be available to all who opened the files from the external 
> device.
>
> This is one of the reasons I do not like that Legacy by default puts ALL of 
> the images in the subfolder under the Program folder.
>
> Thanks,
> David C Abernathy
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> -Original Message-
> From: Ellen [mailto:kramer...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:14 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports
>
> Cheryl, the User IDs are working fine.  We just didn't want to have to delete 
> MRINs that we pre-selected not to print.  Our main issue is getting the 
> photos and scans to show up in computers other than the one that the .rtf or 
> .doc was produced on.  The publisher will need to be able to see and print 
> those photos.  We hate the thought of having to embed each one manually.
>
> God bless,
> Ellen
>
> On May 25, 2013, at 8:13 PM, singhals wrote:
>
>> Ellen wrote:
>>> We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It 
>>> will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we 
>>> are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we 
>>> are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we 
>>> load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a 
>>> thumbdrive.  It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a 
>>> different computer.  We have check marked the option to embed photos, but 
>>> it isn't working.  We have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of 
>>> modifications in the reports and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  
>>> What other options can we do now?  What other options can we do in the 
>>> future?
>>>
>>> We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files 
>>> are way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use 
>>> Word 2003 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade 
>>> to the newer Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions 
>>> or using the same one.
>>>
>>> Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed 
>>> to send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this 
>>> week.
>>>
>>> Also we noticed t

Re: [LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

2013-05-25 Thread Ellen
Cheryl, the User IDs are working fine.  We just didn't want to have to delete 
MRINs that we pre-selected not to print.  Our main issue is getting the photos 
and scans to show up in computers other than the one that the .rtf or .doc was 
produced on.  The publisher will need to be able to see and print those photos. 
 We hate the thought of having to embed each one manually.

God bless,
Ellen

On May 25, 2013, at 8:13 PM, singhals wrote:

> Ellen wrote:
>> We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It 
>> will be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we 
>> are noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we 
>> are initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we 
>> load and bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a thumbdrive. 
>>  It doesn't matter if we are doing this on the same or a different computer. 
>>  We have check marked the option to embed photos, but it isn't working.  We 
>> have hundreds of photos, have made zillions of modifications in the reports 
>> and cannot go back and rerun reports anymore.  What other options can we do 
>> now?  What other options can we do in the future?
>>
>> We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files 
>> are way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use Word 
>> 2003 or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade to the 
>> newer Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions or 
>> using the same one.
>>
>> Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed 
>> to send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this 
>> week.
>>
>> Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User 
>> ID numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent 
>> TONS of hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not 
>> to show up in the reports?
>
> IME: if you want User IDs you'll have dele the MRINs
> manually.  Better also look at the index entries, because,
> again IME, they'll have the RIN attached no matter what
> you've checked.  My personal logic would suggest that if the
> user wants User IDs, perhaps he'd like them in the index as
> well, but apparently programmers don't see it that way.
>
> And, IME, Word2003 didn't distinguish itself by its
> behaviour trying to edit a document about half the size of
> yours.  If you can make it behave for your doc, please send
> me off-list instructions, because I'm going to have to do it
> again soon. :(
>
> Cheryl
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Photos not embedded in the reports

2013-05-25 Thread Ellen
We are nearing the end of preparation of a book series on the family.  It will 
be over 2500 pages and cover 23 different immigrant lines. However, we are 
noticing that photos only show up in the RTFs in the computer where we are 
initiating the reports.  We cannot see photos in RTFs or DOCs that we load and 
bring back from Dropbox or from documents loaded onto a thumbdrive.  It doesn't 
matter if we are doing this on the same or a different computer.  We have check 
marked the option to embed photos, but it isn't working.  We have hundreds of 
photos, have made zillions of modifications in the reports and cannot go back 
and rerun reports anymore.  What other options can we do now?  What other 
options can we do in the future?

We found that we cannot use Word 2010 to do the reports because the files are 
way too large and Word stops responding and saving.  We have to use Word 2003 
or 2007.  It would be nice for Legacy 8 to come out and upgrade to the newer 
Word.  It doesn't matter if we are going between Word versions or using the 
same one.

Would someone either respond publicly or privately to me.  We are supposed to 
send the 23 lines and introduction to the publisher by the end of this week.

Also we noticed that despite the fact that we checked to only include User ID 
numbers, the MRINS are showing up in the reports anyway.  We have spent TONS of 
hours just removing the MRINs alone.  Any idea how to get them not to show up 
in the reports?

God bless,
Ellen


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[LegacyUG] .rtf v .docx

2013-04-25 Thread Ellen
I don't recall if this was mentioned before, but we are preparing to do a book 
on various lines of the family.  We have been working with the smaller lines 
first and gradually going to the larger lines.

I finally got to a line that is 41 pages long and had a number of photos 
included.  While working on that line in an RTF, Microsoft Word kept not 
responding and I had to start over numbers of times.  I finally converted the 
document to a .docx file.  In .rtf it was 468,000+ KB and went down to 150 KB 
as a .docx.  I'm using Legacy's full and current version in Word 2010.  When 
uploading to Dropbox or opening on any computer including the one it was 
created on, no photos or scanned documents show up.  It only shows up on the 
version saved in my computer.

Questions:

Why did Word stop responding in .rft?
Did I have to resave it in .docx?
Should I have done something different?
Will I have to resave all bigger documents in .docx instead of .rtf?
Any other suggestions?
Will I have to give it to a publisher on a disc or thumbdrive?
How large of a document can I work with in Word?  I have some lines that will 
be 700+ pages and a whole lot of photos and scanned documents.

God bless,
Ellen


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Re: [LegacyUG] Organization of Photos, Scanned Documents and etc.

2013-03-15 Thread Ellen
Subfolders work well for me too because I have documents, databases, and other 
info in those folders.  Photos of graves, death certificates, scan of 
obituaries can all go in one folder.  Wedding and anniversary photos, marriage 
documents, and newspaper scans of engagements, weddings, and anniversaries can 
all go in the marriage folder.  It makes it easier to locate for me.

God bless,
Ellen

On Mar 15, 2013, at 7:08 PM, Mary Moyer wrote:

> I have mine organized by surname with subfolders, and it works well for me.
>
> For example:
> Smith Family
> --Smith cemetery records
> --Smith census records
> --Smith correspondence
> --Smith genealogy pics
> --Smith land records
> --Smith military records
> --Smith research
> --Smith tombstone pics
> --Smith vital records
> --Smith wills & probate
>
> Mary
>
> On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Sentz  wrote:
> I am in the process of deciding how to best reorganize things, since I don't 
> have that many individual records yet and need to do some major clean up with 
> my source citations. Prior to getting Legacy, I set up 2 Genealogy folders 
> with sub folders by Surname and then Surname with the head of household under 
> both My Documents and My Photos in Windows 7.  In my mind at the time I was 
> thinking that Pictures/Photos should be separate from images of documents, 
> census records, family documents, death records, birth records, etc.  Using 
> the Surname organization seems to work along with the "filing cabinet" in my 
> head so that I could find things easily.  How do some of you organize your 
> photos and scanned docs?  Do you put them in the same "Picture" folders?  
> Seems like it would be more efficient, eventhough they may be a different 
> type of media.
>
> Geoff Rasmusen uses the Geographic filing system. I see the logic behind 
> doing this, but will likely stick with the Surname filing for now.
>
> Cathy
>
> Researching Conger, Landmark, Lilly, Hobaugh, Hoyle, Kent, Lindquist, Nyberg, 
> Petrie, Seeley, Sentz et al
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Re: [LegacyUG] Indiv "never married" option unavailable

2012-12-09 Thread Ellen
If you go to the individual's box as if to enter birth, death and other info, 
you will notice a box to check at the bottom left for never married and never 
had any children.

God bless,
Ellen

On Dec 9, 2012, at 5:46 PM, gcr...@juno.com wrote:

> I've had the same problem and followed these instructions. While it does
> remove the 'unknown'  spouse when I try to note in the marriage info that
> this individual never married it puts a spouse back as unknown!
>
> Where/how do you reflect the marriage information to reflect "Never
> Married"?
>
> gc
>
>
> On Sun, 09 Dec 2012 21:24:11 + Ron Ferguson
>  writes:
>> Pat,
>>
>> Try View>Marriage List, and see if she has an unknown husband, if so
>> delete the marriage (Options>Delete)
>> ---
>> Ron Ferguson
>> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>> GOONS #5307
>>
>> "Pat Hickin"  wrote:
>>
>>> I have an individual (female) who was "never married" & had no
>> known
>>> children.  I have NO info & NO citations entered for either a
>> spouse or
>>> marriage & yet the Indiv "never married" option is whited out &
>> hence
>>> unavailable.
>>>
>>> I have closed & reopened Legacy but the option remains whited out.
>>>
>>> What do I need to do to get it back again??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Pat
>>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Indiv "never married" option unavailable

2012-12-09 Thread Ellen
Did you check the spouse icon to see if it is lit up?  Did you go into that 
icon to see if an spouse Unknown is listed there?  It is possible that you 
clicked on the spouse's box at some point and closed it without entering info.  
Or you might have opened a box to enter a child accidentally which could have 
put a default possible husband in the icon area without listing the person in 
the spouse box.  Either way, by going into the spouse icon, you can see if 
someone is there and delete that spouse to light up the box you want to check.

God bless,
Ellen

On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:

> Well, so far, gc, Legacy is not showing her with an Unknown or any other kind 
> of husband-- I've saved the file & reopened it, so I hope she's safe.  :-)
>
> Pat
>
> On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Corney Keller  wrote:
> Hello Pat,
>
> In the main window of Legacy, check the status bar where you should see the
> RIN and MRIN for that individual.
> The 'H:' and the 'M:' should have blank entries leaving only the 'W: ' with
> a number.
> If 'M:' has a number next ot it, it means there is a marriage created for
> your female.
> To remove it, press 'CTRL+M'  or select 'Marriage List' from the view menu.
> A new window containing a marriage list should appear and the offending
> marriage should be selected in blue. Check to see if the MRIN number on the
> left  corresponds with the number next to the 'M:' on the status bar. If
> they do you can delete this marriage link by selecting the 'Options' at the
> bottom of the marriage list and then selecting 'Remove the marriage link'.
>
> Once this has been done you can open the individuals editing screen and the
> never married option should be available.
>
> Remember however, should you in the future ever choose any of the icons on
> the marriage info bar, like say the 'marriage notes', 'marriage sources' or
> 'marriage pictures, sounds and video', a new marriage link is created and
> the 'never married, had no children' option will once again be grayed and
> non-selectable even though no husband was added.  Even if you did not save
> or add anything, a new marriage link WILL be created.
> So be careful to not add a marriage note for example to explain that she was
> never married.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Corney Keller
> Zaandam, NL
>
>
>
> From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
> Sent: zondag 9 december 2012 22:09
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Indiv "never married" option unavailable
>
> I have an individual (female) who was "never married" & had no known
> children.  I have NO info & NO citations entered for either a spouse or
> marriage & yet the Indiv "never married" option is whited out & hence
> unavailable.
>
> I have closed & reopened Legacy but the option remains whited out.
>
> What do I need to do to get it back again??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Indiv "never married" option unavailable

2012-12-09 Thread Ellen
Pat, somehow an unknown spouse must be in there.  Go to the spouse icon for the 
individual.  You will probably find "Unknown" as a spouse.  Click on that 
spouse and then Delete on the right side of the spouse listing screen.  You 
will then find the option lit up to select never married and never had any 
children.

God bless,
Ellen

On Dec 9, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Pat Hickin wrote:

> I have an individual (female) who was "never married" & had no known 
> children.  I have NO info & NO citations entered for either a spouse or 
> marriage & yet the Indiv "never married" option is whited out & hence 
> unavailable.
>
> I have closed & reopened Legacy but the option remains whited out.
>
> What do I need to do to get it back again??
>
> Thanks,
>
> Pat
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates

2012-11-24 Thread Ellen
Legacy is amazing as it is, but it would be great to have a new look.  I just 
hope it's basically the same as now and not cluttered like FTM or Root Magic.  
The last person on my team of family researchers just got Legacy.  I was hoping 
she would wait till version 8 came out, but she got it a few weeks ago.  She 
got the whole thing with training CDs too.  EVERYONE in the family who is 
working on this with me has now left FTM.  They all LOVE Legacy and are amazed 
at the features.  I have been with Legacy the longest and there are more who 
will probably begin using it over time who are not on my working team.  We are 
trying to do a book series for over 20,000 people for the first time in 40 
years.  As we proofread and things, everyone is finding different things that 
need to be adjusted.  As I talk them through it (even when not at my computer), 
they are thrilled at how easy it is to delete unknown spouses in order to mark 
someone as never having married and such.  They all have told me that they will 
never switch back to FTM after having used Legacy for a number of months.  
There is so much good in Legacy that I cannot imagine them messing it up.  
Other programs don't seem as open to hearing from their users and keep coming 
out with new versions instead of free fixes in updates that I know it is a 
matter of time before Legacy is #1.  I reviewed all programs every time that 
Legacy came out with each of the last 3 version and I still found Legacy to be 
superior overall.  Thank you, Legacy team and Geoff.

God bless,
Ellen

On Nov 21, 2012, at 11:58 AM, Tessa Keough wrote:

> I remember the version 7 release (although not at traumatized as some
> Legacy users). I do think that with the advancements by other
> genealogy programs (most recently Ancestral Quest and RootsMagic), it
> would be nice to have some general idea regarding a newer version of
> Legacy. I think we all know that something is in the works - It would
> not require a date certain and it would not require the list of
> features, but it would be nice to know if we can expect something in
> the near or far future OR if we should be looking at other programs.
>
> I appreciate the great features in Legacy and realize that we have had
> some features that others are just now getting BUT there were some
> very interesting features introduced by others. I would like to know
> if Legacy is going in that direction or if I need to spend some time
> playing with other programs to get features that would be helpful to
> my research and publishing. There is a lot out there and we do know
> that these programs all try to provide the bells and whistles. I think
> this is a simple request - are significant improvements in the works
> or not? And if there is not "something concrete in the pipeline" now
> that pretty much answers my question.
>
> Tessa Keough
> Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
> Legacy Virtual Users' Group
> One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Don Hendershot
>  wrote:
>>
>> I disagree with belaboring a  negative assessment of Milleniums'
>> performance;  especially at the Legacy 7.5 price point!
>>
>> Millennia does an excellent job in a small niche market with a steep
>> middle-managent learning curve and with pretty limited resources.
>>
>> I expect some hickups, as long as it doesn't become the norm, and I want
>> to make sure I always give credit where credit is due.
>>
>> Legacy 7.5 is a very good product at a very good price!  I wouldn't
>> hesitate to buy it again right now.
>>
>> ~Don
>>
>>
>> On Nov 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Mike Fry  wrote:
>>
>>> On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote:
>>>
>>>> with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are
>>>> some of
>>>> us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if
>>>> there
>>>> are new improvements on the horizon.  If you are not interested in this
>>>> information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails.
>>>> You
>>>> keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us
>>>> disagree with your assessment.  I mean no disrepect, but everytime
>>>> someone
>>>> asks a question along this line, you send the exact same response word
>>>> for
>>>> word.
>>>
>>> I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made
>>> the
>>> mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several
>>> dates
>>> that they proposed. This led to a furore within this

Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical files after death of compi ler

2012-10-14 Thread Ellen
Regarding photos AND what to do with files after death of compiler.

Regarding photos, we have too many people of the same name so I use the RIN # 
in the name of the photo.

Regarding genealogy files, our one side of the family has a duly elected Family 
Historian along with other officers for the Reunion Committee.  When the last 
Family Historian was dying of cancer, she quietly had a relative help her to 
bring boxes and boxes of info to local genealogical and historical societies.  
She didn't like genealogy software but wanted everything in Microsoft Word 
using the family's old numbering system.  We have corrected so many mistakes 
that now that numbering system is obsolete and irrelevant since it was based 
upon birth order, some of which were very wrong.

However, she also had 17 boxes of uncomputerized, unsorted, unfiled, 
unorganized mess leftover.  Her grandson gave it to the President of the Family 
Reunion Committee.  I was elected the new Family Historian and have been 
influencing and connecting with others in the family who use Legacy.  Those 
switching over to Legacy are amazed.  My predecessor never "worked with 
people."  She felt threatened by others.  However, my first step was reaching 
out to others and forming a committee which is working on finalizing a book 
after my being elected in August of 2009.  I still have about 12-13 boxes to go 
through, but we have compiled all the prior published research into the 
computer, worked on LOTS and LOTS of corrections of info, run Potential 
Problems Reports as well, and solicited updates from everyone possible with a 
promise of a free print out of their grandparents on down.  Next year is the 
280th anniversary of our first male immigrant's arrival in the colonies, and we 
expect to have the book ready just 4 years after being elected.  Hopefully we 
can have much more of the articles and things scanned and in the next book in 
2020.  Forty years is way to long for people to wait for a book with the last 
15 years having someone in charge who doesn't even own a computer.

Our Family Reunion is actually a genealogy fest.  LOTS of very distant 
relatives have been working on research so we know no dearth of interest.  We 
even have a few minutes of storytelling by the Family Historian as well as a 
report of the deaths/births/marriages since the prior year.  With so many sad 
stories, I thought it would be great to tell one fairly good story.  We will 
have to check out what was given away, but I have plenty to keep me busy for a 
long time even without whatever she gave away.

God bless,
Ellen

On Oct 14, 2012, at 1:47 AM, hwedhlor wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> That's a fair comment, and one with which I completely
> agree.  I should have ask those requesting copies to contact
> me offlist, and would have done so if I expected such a
> large response.  My apologies to the list.
>
> Anyone requesting copies of my file naming documents please
> contact me offlist.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Zimmerman
> Mesa, AZ
>
> On 10/13/2012 10:18 AM, Ron Bernier wrote:
>> Could all of these "Me too" posts please be taken off
>> line.  Rather than clog up the list with non Legacy "me
>> too" posts, it would be much more considerate of other
>> Legacy subscribers if folks were to contact the original
>> poster via his personal email address.
>>
>> Ron Bernier
>> Woonsocket, RI
>>
>> On Saturday, October 13, 2012, Lee Bruch wrote:
>>
>>I too would be interested in receiving copies.
>>Thanks
>>Lee Bruch
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: hwedhlor [mailto:hwedh...@cox.net ]
>>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2012 11:56 PM
>>To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
>>Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] What to do with genealogical
>>files after death of compi ler
>>
>>JLB and Robert Austen,
>>
>>Thank you both for your kind remarks.
>>
>>On the further subject of archiving images in Legacy
>>and elsewhere,
>>
>>
>>
>>If anyone is interested I will be happy to send them a
>>five-page rationale and a one-page quick reference
>>sheet, both in MS Word format, or to publish that
>>rationale here if there is sufficient demand.
>>
>>John Zimmerman
>>Mesa, AZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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Re: [LegacyUG]

2012-10-12 Thread Ellen
ABSOLUTELY!  Many of the questions on this list are answered on those videos.
God bless,
Ellen

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Re: [LegacyUG] everyone comes up on the index two times

2012-08-09 Thread Ellen
DO NOT delete people willy nilly.  You might find that people won't be 
connected to anyone then.  The only way that I know if is to do a merge.  
Legacy can find the dups and automatically delete the definite duplicates.

God bless,
Ellen

On Aug 9, 2012, at 8:43 PM, MJ SA wrote:

> Amazingly, my family tree grew, until I looked at the index and saw
> that every person is on their 2 times.  What can I do to fix this huge
> problem?
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex "marriage".

2012-07-09 Thread Ellen
Genealogy works with bloodlines.  There are no bloodlines in same-sex 
relationships.  If there are any children, then the sperm and egg donors should 
be noted if they are in your family, not the one giving birth if different from 
sperm and egg donor because that is where the bloodline comes from.  If 
genealogy gets too caught up in these societal downturns, then we will one day 
be working with even more confusing things like beastiality and such.  I know 
of one distant relative who doesn't want his prior marriages listed because his 
current wife will get upset.  I'm listing them once I get the info anyway.  
There are some relatives who have had children from affairs that may be hearsay 
or are not publicly known and I won't be the one to publicize it.  There are 
times when you need to use your head and follow logical requests and not follow 
others.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Ian GARDENER wrote:

> Actually if not specifically asked by this person, I wouldn't be either & I'm 
> totally non religious:)
>
> In this case there are no children I have now found out so really to me, I 
> could leave this "partner" out except for being asked. Having said that 
> though, wether you I approve or not, the fact is that the world is changing 
> around us and not always for the better. If we are to record the facts and if 
> government allow civil unions, then we need to be able to record it.
>
> In the short term I have adopted the marriage event rewording option and 
> instead of husband and wife I've called them female and female, then marked 
> no children and never married. However as this becomes more commonplace which 
> it inevitably will, a better solution needs to be found. I can see where 
> there may be a temptation to totally ignore such relationships at both user & 
> programmer level as there's a strong argument against normalising some 
> behaviours. But as researchers we need to be careful not to overly bias our 
> work.
>
> Alas in my research it seems that I constantly move from one brick wall to 
> the next. I'm also one of these dreamers who hopes one of my descendants 
> somewhere will pick up my research one day and I simply cannot bring myself 
> to deliberately leave a brick wall for them.
>
>
> Ah for the good old days.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 July 2012 7:51 AM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Same sex "marriage".
>
> I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay 
> relationships in my Legacy file.  I would be one of those religious freaks :) 
>  My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay.  In my file he is listed 
> as "never married."  I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex marriages because 
> of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree with them on 
> this one).
>
> Michele
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Re: [LegacyUG] Same sex "marriage".

2012-07-09 Thread Ellen
If someone wants to record these things, they can work it out on their own.  As 
for me and my house, we won't be recording this either.  I don't use the LDS 
options that are provided but I don't complain that they are there either.  
This doesn't seem like something that needs to be discussed here.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:23 PM, salude...@aol.com wrote:

> I'm sorry but I don't understand your way of thinking.  Are you  telling us
> that if you don't like a FACT, then you are going to ignore it and  not
> include it in your database?  Your personal beliefs have nothing to do  with
> recording genealogy FACTS!
>
> Sally
>
> In a message dated 7/9/2012 7:54:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> lhite3...@juno.com writes:
> On 7/9/2012 5:51 PM, Michele Lewis wrote:
>> I know my point of view will not be popular but I don't record any gay
> relationships in my Legacy file.  I would be one of those religious freaks
> :)  My husband does have a cousin that is openly gay.  In my file he  is
> listed as "never married."  I think Legacy doesn't allow same sex  marriages
> because of their ties to the LDS church (I am not LDS but I do agree  with
> them on this one).
>
> Amen Michele, I agree with you  100%.
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems

2012-06-17 Thread Ellen
Ron, I updated Legacy on my laptop and had these problems.  I also downloaded a 
new clean version of Legacy on my desktop that was no longer there from a prior 
rebuild of the computer.  I rebooted several times and did check/repair several 
times but I kept getting the same errors.  I don't have the problems on my 
other lines.  This family that we are doing the book on has over 18,000 people 
with lines A, B, C, ... U.  It is only giving me these errors on the G-line.

However, I cannot get it to save .rtf or .pdf in any line.  If I try to save 
books from each line into the Publishing Center, it changes all of the book 
info to the current line that I have open.  I have been trying to send info in 
.rtf or .pdf to other people to proofread and they can't read things because it 
will only save in .rf1 which doesn't exist.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:26 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> Ellen,
>
> Error 3265 also asks you to download the latest update form their site, you
> do not say that you have done this. Legacy2.dbm is connected with the Jet
> Engine btw.
> Rebooting is not good enough as it will not replace the DBM files.
> What did the error, or error log have to say re the baptism? It is also
> important that you follow Jennie's advice and keep running check/repair
> until you get a clean bill of health - ie. no error messages.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ellen
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 10:12 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems
>
> I did check/repair and got an error about baptisms that I have no idea how
> to resolve.
> I did update to the latest version.  I also loaded Legacy on my desktop by
> downloading the latest and put the file on there.  I get the same problems
> and even more. Now I get Error 3800, 3024, and 3265.
> It told me to delete the .dbm files (in plural) so I did. Now it says that
> it cannot find the Legacy2.dbm file.  Give me a break!
> I did reboot etc and no help.
> Ugh!
> Ellen
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>
>> On 17/06/2012 20:48, Ellen wrote:
>>> Dear people:
>>>
>>> I am able to do many things on computers but I am at my wits end with
>>> these issues.
>>>
>>> 1) I am getting error messages about Error 3800.  Somehow I cannot
>>> figure this out even though I looked at the website.  I must be
>>> totally flustered because
>>>
>>> 2) I cannot get any reports to save or print from Legacy.  It was
>>> saving everything in rt1 or rf1 and not rtf or pdf.
>>>
>>> I also got some erorr about a baptism file not being available so I
>>> did an update of Legacy.  I was trying not to update till after our
>>> book is done, but relatives are trying to help proofread this massive
>>> series of books and I cannot get it working.  I did check repair
>>> numbers of times and it still is not working.  PLeeease help.
>>> When these error messages come up, the only option that I have that
>>> works is to quit Legacy.
>>>
>>> Now I have Error 3426 coming up too.
>>
>> Are you using the latest verion of Legacy?  If not, update.
>>
>> When you did Check & Repair was it finding any errors?  If so, did you
>> correct the errors and repeat until none were found?  If not, do that.
>>
>> Try exporting your family file to one with a new name and see if that
>> will run correctly.
>>
>> If that fails, try re-installing Legacy.  (Make sure you keep your
>> family file and, for double safety's sake, a backup .)
>> --
>> Jenny M Benson
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems

2012-06-17 Thread Ellen
Would a new computer help?  Does it matter if it is 64 bit or 32 bit?
I also got a message to send the file to Ken@Legacy...

Did the emails on printing reports deal with not being able to save reports in 
.rtf and .pdf?  That is another thing that I am dealing with.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:17 PM, Ellen wrote:

> I have no idea how to export or what a 5.5 standard might be.
> God bless,
> Ellen
>
> On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:
>
>> On 6/17/2012 2:32 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>>> On 17/06/2012 20:48, Ellen wrote:
>>>> Dear people:
>>>>
>>>> I am able to do many things on computers but I am at my wits end with
>>>> these issues.
>>>>
>>>> 1) I am getting error messages about Error 3800.  Somehow I cannot
>>>> figure this out even though I looked at the website.  I must be
>>>> totally flustered because
>>>>
>>>> 2) I cannot get any reports to save or print from Legacy.  It was
>>>> saving everything in rt1 or rf1 and not rtf or pdf.
>>>>
>>>> I also got some erorr about a baptism file not being available so I
>>>> did an update of Legacy.  I was trying not to update till after our
>>>> book is done, but relatives are trying to help proofread this massive
>>>> series of books and I cannot get it working.  I did check repair
>>>> numbers of times and it still is not working.  PLeeease help.
>>>> When these error messages come up, the only option that I have that
>>>> works is to quit Legacy.
>>>>
>>>> Now I have Error 3426 coming up too.
>>> Are you using the latest verion of Legacy?  If not, update.
>>>
>>> When you did Check & Repair was it finding any errors?  If so, did you
>>> correct the errors and repeat until none were found?  If not, do that.
>>>
>>> Try exporting your family file to one with a new name and see if that
>>> will run correctly.
>>>
>>> If that fails, try re-installing Legacy.  (Make sure you keep your
>>> family file and, for double safety's sake, a backup .)
>>
>> I think your advice to try exporting then importing is great. That is
>> what I would do if it was happening to me. Be careful not to export to a
>> 5.5 standard because if you have SourceWriter, your sources will revert
>> to basic.
>>
>> --
>> Tim Rosenlof
>> Utah, USA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems

2012-06-17 Thread Ellen
I have no idea how to export or what a 5.5 standard might be.
God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Tim Rosenlof wrote:

> On 6/17/2012 2:32 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:
>> On 17/06/2012 20:48, Ellen wrote:
>>> Dear people:
>>>
>>> I am able to do many things on computers but I am at my wits end with
>>> these issues.
>>>
>>> 1) I am getting error messages about Error 3800.  Somehow I cannot
>>> figure this out even though I looked at the website.  I must be
>>> totally flustered because
>>>
>>> 2) I cannot get any reports to save or print from Legacy.  It was
>>> saving everything in rt1 or rf1 and not rtf or pdf.
>>>
>>> I also got some erorr about a baptism file not being available so I
>>> did an update of Legacy.  I was trying not to update till after our
>>> book is done, but relatives are trying to help proofread this massive
>>> series of books and I cannot get it working.  I did check repair
>>> numbers of times and it still is not working.  PLeeease help.
>>> When these error messages come up, the only option that I have that
>>> works is to quit Legacy.
>>>
>>> Now I have Error 3426 coming up too.
>> Are you using the latest verion of Legacy?  If not, update.
>>
>> When you did Check & Repair was it finding any errors?  If so, did you
>> correct the errors and repeat until none were found?  If not, do that.
>>
>> Try exporting your family file to one with a new name and see if that
>> will run correctly.
>>
>> If that fails, try re-installing Legacy.  (Make sure you keep your
>> family file and, for double safety's sake, a backup .)
>
> I think your advice to try exporting then importing is great. That is
> what I would do if it was happening to me. Be careful not to export to a
> 5.5 standard because if you have SourceWriter, your sources will revert
> to basic.
>
> --
> Tim Rosenlof
> Utah, USA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems

2012-06-17 Thread Ellen
Ron, I am using WIndows XP with the latest version of Legacy.   It started 
happening with a version about 2 updates back.  I tried to do the Error 3800 
stuff now on my desktop but that didn't help.

God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 17, 2012, at 5:02 PM, Ron Ferguson wrote:

> -Original Message-
> From: Ellen
> Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:48 PM
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems
>
> Dear people:
>
> I am able to do many things on computers but I am at my wits end with these
> issues.
>
> 1) I am getting error messages about Error 3800.  Somehow I cannot figure
> this out even though I looked at the website.  I must be totally flustered
> because
>
> 2) I cannot get any reports to save or print from Legacy.  It was saving
> everything in rt1 or rf1 and not rtf or pdf.
>
> I also got some erorr about a baptism file not being available so I did an
> update of Legacy.  I was trying not to update till after our book is done,
> but relatives are trying to help proofread this massive series of books and
> I cannot get it working.  I did check repair numbers of times and it still
> is not working.  PLeeease help.  When these error messages come up, the
> only option that I have that works is to quit Legacy.
>
> Now I have Error 3426 coming up too.
>
> Happy Father's Day to all the dads!
> Ellen
>
> Ellen,
>
> The errors are Access Errors and the first indicates a corrupt index in your
> files. The advice given by both Jenny and Tim is good, but I would also
> suggest that you look at the possibility of having to reinstall the Jet
> Engine - see Legacy Error 3800 and also their page on other numbers. I
> cannot be certain how to do this, or if it may be needed, as you do not say
> which PC and o/s you are using.
>
> It may be that you will will need to send your file to Legacy for them to
> sort out, if your file is corrupt then using another program is unlikely to
> sort it.
>
> Ron Ferguson
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems

2012-06-17 Thread Ellen
I did check/repair and got an error about baptisms that I have no idea how to 
resolve.
I did update to the latest version.  I also loaded Legacy on my desktop by 
downloading the latest and put the file on there.  I get the same problems and 
even more. Now I get Error 3800, 3024, and 3265.
It told me to delete the .dbm files (in plural) so I did. Now it says that it 
cannot find the Legacy2.dbm file.  Give me a break!
I did reboot etc and no help.
Ugh!
Ellen

On Jun 17, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Jenny M Benson wrote:

> On 17/06/2012 20:48, Ellen wrote:
>> Dear people:
>>
>> I am able to do many things on computers but I am at my wits end with
>> these issues.
>>
>> 1) I am getting error messages about Error 3800.  Somehow I cannot
>> figure this out even though I looked at the website.  I must be
>> totally flustered because
>>
>> 2) I cannot get any reports to save or print from Legacy.  It was
>> saving everything in rt1 or rf1 and not rtf or pdf.
>>
>> I also got some erorr about a baptism file not being available so I
>> did an update of Legacy.  I was trying not to update till after our
>> book is done, but relatives are trying to help proofread this massive
>> series of books and I cannot get it working.  I did check repair
>> numbers of times and it still is not working.  PLeeease help.
>> When these error messages come up, the only option that I have that
>> works is to quit Legacy.
>>
>> Now I have Error 3426 coming up too.
>
> Are you using the latest verion of Legacy?  If not, update.
>
> When you did Check & Repair was it finding any errors?  If so, did you
> correct the errors and repeat until none were found?  If not, do that.
>
> Try exporting your family file to one with a new name and see if that
> will run correctly.
>
> If that fails, try re-installing Legacy.  (Make sure you keep your
> family file and, for double safety's sake, a backup .)
> --
> Jenny M Benson
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3800 and other problems

2012-06-17 Thread Ellen
Dear people:

I am able to do many things on computers but I am at my wits end with these 
issues.

1) I am getting error messages about Error 3800.  Somehow I cannot figure this 
out even though I looked at the website.  I must be totally flustered because

2) I cannot get any reports to save or print from Legacy.  It was saving 
everything in rt1 or rf1 and not rtf or pdf.

I also got some erorr about a baptism file not being available so I did an 
update of Legacy.  I was trying not to update till after our book is done, but 
relatives are trying to help proofread this massive series of books and I 
cannot get it working.  I did check repair numbers of times and it still is not 
working.  PLeeease help.  When these error messages come up, the only 
option that I have that works is to quit Legacy.

Now I have Error 3426 coming up too.

Happy Father's Day to all the dads!
Ellen




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Re: [LegacyUG] Marriage Banns

2012-06-09 Thread Ellen
If I were to do it at all, I would put it in as a Marriage Note.
God bless,
Ellen

On Jun 9, 2012, at 3:02 AM, Tony Rolfe wrote:

> Since Banns are called 3 times, is it normal to have 3 different events,
> one for each calling of the banns?
>
> Also, the default wording for the "Marriage Banns" event starts [HeShe]
> but surely banns are called for a couple?
>
> Any advice on the best way to record this would be appreciated.
>
> thanks
>
> Tony
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Child-Parent Relationship

2011-12-24 Thread Ellen Ward
Thanks Paula. I have gone through the list of citations multiple times and the 
particular citations just don't match with what I see on the family group sheet 
report. I'm starting to think it might be something that imported with a gedcom 
file I imported. Maybe I'll just delete those citations and then add them back 
in and see what happens.

Happy Holidays!

Ellen in Maryland

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 24, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Paula Ryburn  wrote:

> Ellen,
> Go to the Individual in question, click on the little book icon to get to the 
> list of source citations for their data, scroll down that list until you see 
> "Father Rel." and "Mother Rel." ... they're just after all the events.  I'm 
> not super familiar with the FGR, so I'm not positive I understand which 
> Individual's "Child-Par. Rel." and "Relationship" you're talking about.  But 
> if you look at the citations for all the Individuals included on the FGR, you 
> can probably figure this out.  (On the other hand, a while back I did submit 
> a bug report on the FGR regarding these fields... a long while ago, so I 
> don't remember the details.  It seems it was just a printing problem; nothing 
> wrong with the sourcing.  Probably after Christmas, Sherry or another Legacy 
> person will read your post and look it up.)
>
> --Paula in Texas
> Researching: Adair Baker Beasley Benson Betz Bigley Blagrave Burton Chapman 
> Clement Clough Coppernoll Costine Daulton Dinwiddie Doody Ellis Exline Field 
> Floran Floyd Gates Goodale Gordon Gump Hale Harbaugh Hind Hopkins Hughes 
> Hurdle Jones Klein Koyle Laswell McDonald Misner Passwaters Pelton Roberts 
> Roche Ryburn Short Singer Sullivan Weller Williams
>
>
> From: Ellen Ward 
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
> Sent: Sat, December 24, 2011 7:59:09 AM
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Child-Parent Relationship
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm new to this group and relatively new to Legacy. I created a Family Group 
> sheet that shows the sources for the parent-child relationships for the 
> husband and wife. I have an extra field called "Child-Par. Rel." that 
> displays for the wife and not for the husband. After each of their parents I 
> also have "Relationship" and the source numbers. I'm trying to understand 
> where the sources are attached for the "Child-Par. Rel."as opposed to the 
> Relationship that displays after the parent names in the Family Group Sheet 
> since they are different. Also I'd like to understand what the difference 
> might be for using these two fields. Where do I control the sources added to 
> each of these areas?
>
> I hope this makes sense. Thanks for any help you can give me.
>
> Ellen
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Child-Parent Relationship

2011-12-24 Thread Ellen Ward
Hi,

I'm new to this group and relatively new to Legacy. I created a Family Group 
sheet that shows the sources for the parent-child relationships for the husband 
and wife. I have an extra field called "Child-Par. Rel." that
displays for the wife and not for the husband. After each of their
parents I also have "Relationship" and the source numbers. I'm trying to 
understand where the sources are attached for the
"Child-Par. Rel."as opposed to the Relationship that displays after the
parent names in the Family Group Sheet since they are different. Also I'd like 
to understand what the difference might be for using these two fields. Where do 
I control the sources added to each of these areas?

I hope this makes sense. Thanks for any help you can give me.

Ellen

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