Re: [LegacyUG] Survey - Syncing

[Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup]

Dennis, please, change if you are unhappy with Legacy, but don’t waste your 
time or ours by repeatedly telling us you are going to change.  Your 
complaining has NOTHING to do with the original question.

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On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:09 PM, Dennis Holtby  wrote:

> That’s why I’m considering changing. I”ve never found an easy way to do it. 
> I’ve always had to do a back-up/restore to move data between computers.
>
> Dennis
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM Gary Crull  wrote:
>
>> Hi everybody,
>>
>> I'm taking a little survey if you'll participate.
>>
>> What app do you use to 'sync' Legacy between your MAIN computer and a 
>> SECONDARY computer?
>>
>> What do you feel is the advantage of your choice vs another app?
>>
>> Gary
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Re: [LegacyUG] BEWARE!!! MyHeritage "wonderful" photo colorization steals your photos!

[Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup]

Thank you Brian.  It is refreshing to hear a voice of reason among the “Sky is 
Falling” fear mongering.

Ronald Bernier
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 7:21 AM, Brian Kelly  wrote:

> What CE Wood failed to include was this statement in the fine print at
> the bottom of the front page of the colourization feature page
> https://www.myheritage.com/incolor: "Free signup is required. Photos
> uploaded without completing signup are automatically deleted to protect
> your privacy."
>
> I long ago decided to relegate her posts to my junk folder because of
> her fear mongering like this.
>
> I am not a MyHeritage fan and do not have an account with them but I do
> not think they deserve this kind of misinformation.
>
> Brian Kelly
>
> On 18-Feb.-20 12:29 a.m., CE WOOD wrote:
>> If you are foolish enough to upload your photos and use this "wonderful"
>> colorization service promoted today by LegacyFamilyTree,
>> https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2020/02/your-black-white-photograph-to-full-color-in-1-step.html
>> <https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2020/02/your-black-white-photograph-to-full-color-in-1-step.html>
>>
>> Your Black & White Photograph to Full Color in 1 Step
>> <https://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2020/02/your-black-white-photograph-to-full-color-in-1-step.html>
>> Brand new - use this incredible new tool to automatically colorize your
>> black and white photographs. Watch how here: At
>> www.myheritage.com/incolor I uploaded some of my black and white
>> photographs and let the tool do the rest. Take a look...
>> news.legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>> *MyHeritage will OWN YOUR PHOTOS*
>>
>> "...*by posting content on the Website, you grant us a **royalty-free,
>> worldwide, perpetual and non-exclusive license to host, copy, post and
>> distribute such content."*
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> *
>> CE
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Announcement from the staff

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The information I read is that if you don’t update before 1/26, after that date 
Legacy will not open until you do run the update.

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On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 5:11 PM, STEPHEN GRAHAM  
wrote:

> What happens after 01/26/20? Can't update at this time.
>
>> On January 22, 2020 at 10:33 AM Michele Lewis  
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ANNOUNCEMENT:
>>
>> We just released an update that is a priority. This update has our new
>> Windows security certificates which will be good for 3 years. Please update
>> before January 26, 2020.
>>
>> If you are a Legacy Deluxe user you can update via the Legacy home tab. If
>> you are a free standard version user you can update here:
>>
>> https://legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadUpdate.asp
>>
>> You can also see the complete Revision List for this update here:
>> https://legacyfamilytree.com/RevisionHistory9.asp
>>
>>
>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CGR
>> Legacy Educator
>> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy News/program update

[Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup]

My opinion is that NO-ONE should automatically be subscribed to the newsletter. 
 Neither an  administrator nor anyone else has the right to decide that you 
downloaded the software so therefore we will subscribe you to the newsletter.

Sorry if this offends anyone, but then again in this day and age everyone is 
offended about something.

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On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:56 AM,  wrote:

> I tried to update from the home page. It went through all the steps of 
> downloading, then told me it couldn't install the update and I had to do it 
> manually. No problem, except for this:
>
> "By submitting this form, I agree that the website administrator will 
> subscribe me to the Legacy News mailing list, with information about Legacy 
> updates and other genealogy news."
>
> Now I know why I get two Legacy updates in my inbox since I had to download a 
> previous version from the web. I imagine I will get three after this.
>
> Jennifer
>
> -Original Message-
> From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
> Cathy Pinner
> Sent: Wednesday, 6 November 2019 8:33 PM
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy News/program update
>
> Ian
> You can update from the Legacy Home Tab in the Legacy Program - see box on 
> the right OR you can download from the webpage and then install. If you 
> download from the webpage you have to provide an email address ...
>
> The update has never been in About Legacy.
>
> There are a lot of fixes in this update.
> If you have written your own Internet searches, take the precaution of saving 
> the iSearch folder in ...\Documents\Legacy Family Tree\_AppData\ folder as 
> all the strings have been updated and they appear to be replacing the whole 
> folder.
>
> Also, if you use the Legacy FamilySearch integration it won't work without 
> this update. FamilySearch have released a new API and there are changes in 
> this update for that.
>
> Cathy
>
>> Ian Macaulay  Wednesday, 6 November 2019
>> 1:46 PM I have deluxe and cannot find where to get the latest update.
>> The button says download update but will open a web page and ask all
>> kinds of stuff. Where is the " automatic self propelling internal
>> update my existing file" button. I thought it was in the About
>> Legacy
>>
>> Normally I just wait for the 30 day thing to kick in and ask me, But
>> as you published the update in this fashion I assumed it critical.
>> I do not want to lose my setup, customizations etc
>>
>> Ian
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> Dale E O'Connor 
>> Wednesday, 6 November 2019 11:47 AM
>> Has Legacy been fixed so that the Legacy News gets updated? Mine
>> doesn't work.
>>
>> I cannot update from within the program. I am on Windows 10.
>>
>> I spent a couple of hours searching the internet. I finally gave up
>> and downloaded the program.
>>
>> Does anyone have any hints or tips on what I need to do to be able to
>> update from within the program? Does it have anything to do with
>> Windows 10?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dale
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Re: [LegacyUG] Error 3035 during Check-Repair Build 9.0.0.318

[Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup]

I was unaware that Legacy users were only allowed to post a question during 
certain hours.  This must be a new stipulation. 

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On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 5:08 AM, Jennie Matheson  wrote:

> Not in Australia, Jeanine. This list is worldwide.
>
> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 8:07 PM Jeanine Bailiff  wrote:
>
>> It’s 2:05 a.m.!
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 7, 2019 at 2:03 AM Alan Thompson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Has anyone else had problems with the Check-Repair routine using the latest 
>>> release Legacy 9.0 Build 318.
>>>
>>> I repeatedly get a “ Run Time Error ‘3035 System resource exceeded “message 
>>> at Step 65 of 219 of Check-Repair and was wondering if anyone else was 
>>> experiencing similar.
>>>
>>> I tried uninstalling Legacy and re-installing (as recommended for this 
>>> error message) and running check-repair on the same Family file but again 
>>> received the same error message.
>>>
>>> I also tried exporting my family file to a new Legacy database and running 
>>> Check-Repair on that, again without success.
>>>
>>> However, on a different computer (with less resources, ie CPU and Memory, 
>>> but with the same version of Windows 10 with latest updates), I ran 
>>> check-repair using Legacy Version 9.0.0.301 (ie the previous release) on 
>>> the same family files (as above) and check-repair completed successfully in 
>>> both cases.
>>>
>>> Also restored a back-up of my family file taken immediately prior to 
>>> updating to Build 9.0.0.318. Running check repair on this file using 
>>> Version 9.0.0.318 again failed at the same point, but successfully 
>>> completed using 9.0.0.301.
>>>
>>> My Family File details:
>>>
>>> Number of Individuals: 143931
>>>
>>> Number of Families: 44941
>>>
>>> Master locations: 20761
>>>
>>> Master Sources: 1245
>>>
>>> Citations: 759965
>>>
>>> Master events: 197212
>>>
>>> used by individuals: 196591
>>>
>>> used by marriages: 621
>>>
>>> Master media items: 73894
>>>
>>> times linked: 303918
>>>
>>> I have reported this problem to support.
>>>
>>> Alan Thompson
>>>
>>> Canberra, Australia
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help

[Ronald Bernier]

There was absolutely nothing rude about Jenny’s response.  Jenny is among
the most helpful individuals on this list.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:27 AM Art Womer  wrote:

> Jenny Benson. Why so rude to a noobie user? At least you could have
> directed him to the user group.
>
>
>> That#s what the Legacy User Group is all about.  Ypu've obviously signed
>> up as you have posted a message, so ask your questions!
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Re: [LegacyUG] Help

[Ronald Bernier]

There is a Facebook User Group that you can join as well as this email user
list.

On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 5:53 AM Jim  wrote:

> I’m not sure what I’m doing.
>
> I am new to Legacy, am entering family information, and have a question
> about how to enter a particular person.
>
> Isn’t there a forum where, not only can I get my question answered, but I
> can read other people’s situations and learn from them?
>
> If no forum particular to Legacy, perhaps there is a forum used by all?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Whatever happened to Animap?

[Ronald Bernier]

Have you asked on the GoldBug site if they honor the purchase of AniMap  
through the Legacy web sit?  Even back when you bought it through Legacy, 
GoldBug was still the "owner" of the software - Legacy was simply a 
distributor/reseller.

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On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, at 4:17 PM, magnoliasouth wrote:
> Yeah, I saw that but I bought it through Legacy. I am not sure they 
> will honor a purchase made from another seller. They might though. I 
> was hoping Legacy may explain it to me. Perhaps I need a support ticket?
> 
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 12:51 PM Wes Jester  wrote:
> >  I found it at this location
> > 
> > https://goldbug.com/animap/
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 3:40 PM magnoliasouth  
> > wrote:
> >> Back in 2014, I bought the online download for Animap 3.0.2, at the Legacy 
> >> website. I had a computer crash last week and thankfully, I had my files 
> >> backed up in several locations, but not downloads, which I regret. 
> >> However, the link in the original email is broken and does not redirect me 
> >> to its location on the website 
> >> <http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/DownloadAniMap.asp>
> >> 
> >> Call me silly, but I cannot find it. Has Legacy ceased to offer it? Any 
> >> ideas on how I can get it back?
> >> 
> >> Many thanks to everyone here.
> >> 
> >> Cindy Lloyd
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Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud

[Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup]

Michelle,
Legacy has been very very clear about the acquisition from the outset.  There 
are certain people on this list who are constantly  doing their darnedest to 
sow discord with Legacy - I always consider the source.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
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> On Jun 5, 2019, at 5:48 AM, Michele Lewis  
> wrote:
> 
> I have no idea what you mean. It has never been a secret that MyHeritage 
> acquired Legacy. It was huge news not a secret.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 21:41 CE WOOD  wrote:
>> Ah! So Legacy really DID sell out to MyHeritage, despite all you guys denied 
>> the truth. "Fake news is catching, I guess.  "Sic transit gloria". 
>> 
>> 
>> ​CE
>> 
>> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
>> Michele Lewis 
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 5:53 PM
>> 
>> To: 'Legacy User Group'
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud
>>  
>> You can send your thoughts directly to MyHeritage. I can’t speak for them.
>>  
>> Michele Simmons Lewis, CG®
>> Legacy Educator
>> Legacy Family Tree/MyHeritage
>> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
>> www.legacyfamilytree.com 
>>  
>>  
>> From: LegacyUserGroup  On Behalf Of 
>> dec...@eircom.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 5:52 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud
>>  
>> Hi Michele I have had great response from you with previous questions and 
>> thank for it. But what is happening now is appalling. We are getting no 
>> explanation from my heritage as to why things are going wrong, why did they 
>> have to change their API for example no explanation given. I think the users 
>> of Legacy deserve much better answers. The Map problem is a laugh while 
>> other companies have no problems to my knowledge, yet there is no real 
>> explanation as to what is happening apart from soft changing coding.  
>> what stage are the programmers at ,are they near fixing it or miles away 
>> from it, Why is it taking so long surely they can give us some kind of info 
>> to help us to be patient. It has been a long time now. Sadly I have been 
>> looking at other programmes with maps considering moving, never dreamed I 
>> would do this as I had been very happy with Legacy. Maps was very important 
>> to me as I am sure to others as well. But it is getting very frustrating, 
>> waiting, waiting, waiting but no news of any kind. Very sad. Please I know 
>> its not your fault and please to give me “they dont give out info re when it 
>> might be ready”.We want real answers from My Heritage. Declan Chalmers
>>  
>>  
>> From: dec...@eircom.net
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 7:33 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud
>>  
>> First Maps now hints, server and cloud with no indication as to when these 
>> will be corrected. We are paid for things we have not got. Is it the 
>> beginning of the end of Legacy? I am a long time user of Legacy and have not 
>>  complained but what is happening especially re the maps cant be let go . 
>> Declan Chalmers
>> From: Michele Lewis
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2019 6:42 AM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud
>>  
>> The problem with the Hints has nothing to do with the server. MyHeritage had 
>> an API (programming code) change on their side which caused us to have to 
>> make a code change on our side.
>>  
>> The Legacy download IS housed on the broken server so we parked a copy on 
>> the Amazon server that houses the Legacy webinar site and we can give anyone 
>> who needs it a direct link to it.
>>  
>> Michele
>>  
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 22:27 CE WOOD  wrote:
>> If the problem was just the Legacy Cloud backup, that would be 
>> understandable, but, from the many comments to the contrary, both from beta 
>> testers posting here and users, the whole Legacy program was affected, and 
>> version 9 could not be downloaded! We were advised that many of the problems 
>> with Legacy were affected, such as Hints, and could not be remedied until 
>> the programmers were able to reprogram! That the Legacy program was lost by 
>> MyHeritage is inexcusable.
>>  
>> ​CE
>>  
>> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
>> Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup 
>> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 2:00 PM
>> To: Legacy User Group
>> Cc: Ronald Bernier
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud
>>  
>> Apparently the sky is falling.  Of course, 

Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud

[Ronald Bernier via LegacyUserGroup]

Apparently the sky is falling.  Of course, the banks, doctor’s office, etc. 
store critical data on their server(s) - therefore they must have a fail safe 
system.  A server that houses among other things FREE cloud back-up is far from 
being a critical system.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
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> On Jun 3, 2019, at 4:19 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
> 
> You are 100% correct. Imagine if the servers at your bank, doctor's office, 
> hospital, amazon, Google, ad infinitum, were out this long! Something else is 
> going on here. Maintaining servers is a 24 hour duty. If MyHeritage had no 
> total image backup, Legacy made a potentially lethal mistake. Friends and 
> family who do server maintenance and programing for a living (MSFT, amazon, 
> etc.) are certain there is something fishy about this whole thing. 
> 
> ​CE  
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Chris Hill 
> Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 11:50 AM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud
>  
> And also be aware that the current Legacy cloud backup system is broken, 
> following a server failure about 3 weeks ago.
> 
> Millennia (Legacy) and My Heritage have built a new server and currently 
> configuring it.
> 
> Don't ask me why it is taking so long. Most companies who lose a server 
> will get it back either directly, or through a Disaster Recovery 
> process, within a day - just think what Amazon would do if its servers 
> crashed. I saw a report about 20 years ago, in the UK, that NO 
> businesses who had lost its servers, and had no recovery process, 
> actually survived as a business.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Chris
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Brian Kelly" 
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Sent: 03/06/2019 18:41:25
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Backing up to the cloud
> 
> >Cloud Backup is free. Note that this is not a full service backup however, 
> >Only your data file is included and there is only one copy held. It is 
> >strongly recommended that you consider this an extra backup not your only 
> >one. If you have media linked to your file you will certainly need to back 
> >up the media separately.
> >
> >Security problems are no worse than any other cloud service. Hackers might 
> >get access to the server which contains the backups, no online service is 
> >risk free.
> >
> >Brian Kelly
> >
> >On 03-Jun.-19 1:33 p.m., Susan Osborne wrote:
> >>Does it cost to use the backup to cloud feature in Legacy?
> >>
> >>Is there a problem with security if you use it?
> >>
> >>Susan
> >>
> >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy error at start

[Ronald Bernier]

Shouldn't this message have been posted to the Legacy Beta mailing list
rather than the general Legacy User list?

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI


On Sat, Apr 6, 2019 at 6:40 AM Chris Hill 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> Please look at
> http://support.legacyfamilytree.com/article/AA-00236/11/Error-Messages-Problems/Error-339-Component-filename-or-one-of-its-dependencies-not-correctly-registered.html
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Ralph Kjellgren" 
> To: "Legacy User Group" 
> Sent: 06/04/2019 11:19:27
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy error at start
>
> Hi all
>
> I receive the following message when i click the Legacy 9.0 Beta start
> button:
>
>
>
> I have tried to reinstall – still the same problem.
> What to do? Suggestions?
> //ralph
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] SPAM Mail from a Paul Morris Hilton

[Ronald Bernier]

Just ignore and delete.

On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 11:56 AM Helen Gillespie  wrote:

> Is probably spam!
> Someone asking for assistance ‚if I’m not too busy‘
> Be wary!
>
> Helen Gillespie
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Re: [LegacyUG] We need a Forum !!

[Ronald Bernier]

Actually, there are only a handful of whiners/complainers - unfortunately,
that handful are the same people over and over again.  Very rarely do you
hear constructive criticism from them.  I agree, if they are as
dissasisfied with the program as their constant griping indicates they are,
then the sensible thing to do is either write/create their own program, or
find another commercial program that suits their needs.  I seriously doubt
either will happen as there is no program that they will truly be
happy/satisfied with.

Ronald Bernier

On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 2:42 AM Jennie Matheson 
wrote:

> I am quite happy with the mailing list (with the exception of all the
> whinging) and would not use a forum.
>
> If I was as dissatisfied with Legacy as the whingers seem to be I would
> have forsaken the program and gone elsewhere long ago. The program meets my
> needs and admittedly I do not use all the bells and whistles that have been
> added to more recent versions.
>
> IMHO it is possibly the bells and whistles that cause many of the problems
> - the more features you add the more things that can go wrong, thus more
> problems. Firm believer in the motto "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"!!!
> (as in if it works fine which according to the whingers it did before the
> bells and whistles started getting added then leave it alone.
>
> Jennie
>
> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 3:22 PM marion wimsett <2wi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What a truly sensible post!
>>
>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 11:28, Joan Powell via LegacyUserGroup <
>> legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes!
>>>
>>> -- Joan Powell
>>>
>>> *From:* Peter Matthews 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 10, 2019 8:01 PM
>>> *To:* Legacy User Group 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] We need a Forum !!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm not sure we actually  a forum at all.
>>>
>>> Both mailing lists like this and forums have their advantages and
>>> disadvantages. OK, so our mailing list can't show images, but it has
>>> nevertheless been working very successfully, and simply, for many years, as
>>> have many other "Mailman" mailing lists in use today.
>>>
>>> As someone who has administered several forums a few years ago, and
>>> Mailman mailing lists today, I know that forums are a lot trickier and more
>>> work to administer. What would be in it for Millennia? Only more work
>>> setting it up, administering it, and coping with the many extra complaints
>>> which would surely arise. Yes, a forum or forums would provide extra
>>> capabilities, but would it be worth it? I can feel a saying coming on, but
>>> I'll resist.
>>>
>>> Unless this mailing list actually becomes not fit for purpose, I feel we
>>> should stick with it, just get on with it, and thank Legacy/Millennia for
>>> hosting it. It has certainly helped solve a lot of our Legacy problems and
>>> queries.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> At 22:41 09-01-19 +, Chris Hill wrote:
>>>
>>> What Legacy and Millennia should be building is a single forum styled
>>> system - HTML web based system to replace the current systems of a 1990s
>>> style email mail list and a group within Facebook which cannot easily deal
>>> with linked posts.
>>>
>>> This is the way that virtually all other systems use; look at forums
>>> used by game developers, vehicle owner groups etc. There is freely
>>> available software to provide these systems, which can be developed to
>>> provide more functionality.
>>>
>>> These systems enable you to create multiple sub-forums within which your
>>> users can create posts, to include text and embedded files and images.
>>> Against those posts other users can create additional posts.
>>>
>>> Management of users is easy to ensure that only registered users can
>>> make or read posts; that some sub-forums or posts can be read-only to
>>> anyone; some can be limited to developers and testers etc..
>>>
>>> And the existing mail and FB lists can be merged into the new system.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> (From my Android)
>>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Ronald Bernier]

POSTED BY MICHELLE SIMMONS LEWIS FOUR HOURS AGO ON THE FACEBOOK LEGACY
GROUP

“Mapping will not be coming back in its current form. The developers are
working on something new. Legacy’s platform is simply incompatible with the
new Bing API.

I am closing the comments.”


On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 12:20 PM Mary Young via LegacyUserGroup <
legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> wrote:

> The original message to the list is in the attachment.
>
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> for their subscription.
>
> Known providers for free email accounts whose emails do not require
> this conversion include gmail.com and hotmail.com.  Many other email
> providers will also work but you will have to give them a try.
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Mary Young 
> To: Legacy User Group 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2019 17:03:03 +
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function
> itsjdad and Ron Bernier,
> Thanks for this update on Millennia' intentions about mapping. It would be
> interesting to know when Michelle Simmons Lewis posted this on Facebook.
> Mary Young
>
> On Sunday, 6 January 2019, Ronald Bernier 
> wrote:
>
>> Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy
>> Staff) explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was
>> closed because I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming
>> back in it's current form.  The developers are working on something new."
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
>>>
>>> We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped
>>> working. It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether
>>> they intend to make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy
>>> not to disclose what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory
>>> to the many users who have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not
>>> asking when it will be restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made
>>> to restore Mapping. I'm simply asking it Legacy has any intention of
>>> restoring the Mapping feature?
>>>
>>> Admin has shutdown all comments on the post.
>>>
>>> Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond
>>> to their users.
>>>
>>> Thanks, Steve Wilson.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping Function

[Ronald Bernier]

Missing from this post is the fact that Michele Simmons Lewis (Legacy
Staff) explained why she shut down the Facebook post - "The thread was
closed because I had answered the question".  "Mapping will not be coming
back in it's current form.  The developers are working on something new."

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:59 AM ltsjdad  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Found this on the Legacy Users group on Facebook:
>
> We're approaching a year-and-a-half since the Mapping feature stopped
> working. It's way past time for Legacy to make a statement about whether
> they intend to make it function once again. Stating that they have a policy
> not to disclose what their programmers are working on is not satisfactory
> to the many users who have a legitimate interest in this feature. I'm not
> asking when it will be restored. I'm not asking what progress is being made
> to restore Mapping. I'm simply asking it Legacy has any intention of
> restoring the Mapping feature?
>
> Admin has shutdown all comments on the post.
>
> Guess this answers the question as to whether Legacy intends to respond to
> their users.
>
> Thanks, Steve Wilson.
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] glitch with "user id" latest updat

[Ronald Bernier]

WHAT.?.?? - the mapping has been broken for a little over ONE YEAR.  If you 
paid attention to the posts, you would have seen that it was recently mentioned 
that Millennia is looking into an alternative to the mapping feature which was 
broken due to  changes by Microsoft.  Not sure where your misinformation of 
"many years" originated from.

Ronald Bernier
Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 31, 2018, at 1:48 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
> 
> Legacy listens to only certain customers' requests. How many years now with 
> customers begging for the return of the mapping function?
> 
> 
> CE
> 
> From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
> Jenny M Benson 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 3:46 AM
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] glitch with "user id" latest updat
>  
> On 30-Oct-18 11:23 PM, Ian Thomas wrote:
> > I must be very unobservant, but I don’t see this change 
> > latest 9.0.0.258 installed). So it hasn’t irritated me.
> > 
> Perhaps you have not got Legacy set up to show UserID on names.  It's 
> option 8.2 in the Customise menu.
> 
> I have to say that I am one of the ones who is irritated by this new 
> feature.  I don't want it in Reports either.  I am very pleased that 
> Legacy staff listen and respond to their customers' requests, but the 
> trouble is that although hundreds may request a new feature there may be 
> thousands who would not want it but don't know that they need to say so. 
>   It would never have occurred to me to contact Legacy to say "Please 
> don't ever put wording in front of UserID".
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Map Family

[Ronald Bernier]

There was a "notice" about the update sent to this user group and to the 
Facebook page.  It is not Millennia's fault if you "missed" the notice or you 
chose to ignore it.  Not sure how you think that proves whatever point you 
thought you were making

Ronald Bernier
Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 28, 2018, at 10:27 PM, Gene Hutson  wrote:
> 
> And thank you for proving my point, not all of us knew that…
>  
> And before this, when was the last one, hmmm I believe March.
>  
>  
>  
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: [LegacyUG] Please unsubscribe

[Ronald Bernier]

Extremely poor suggestion - if you and others make the outrageous decision to 
mark mail form the Legacy User Group - (which you  would have willingly 
subscribed to) as S*P*A*M you jeopardize the list for all others.  When you 
consciously blacklist a mailing list, you are not only blacklisting for 
yourself, you are indicating that the list is S*P*A*M for anyone and everyone 
who wants to receive mail from the list.

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> Best bet is to go to the email and block as spam. I did this and haven’t 
> had another one since 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?

[Ronald Bernier]

Have you emailed Sales with your query?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Programmers?

[Ronald Bernier]

The problem is that it is always the same people complaining. I have
been using Legacy since vetsion 4.  There are people on this list who
have complained about the program with every version that has been
released.  They could move to anothet program, but don't.  Instead they
just constantly complain about every version.  Sadly, in their mind
they think their constant complaining is resulting in improvements to
the program.
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> I agree with Linda everyone needs to stop gripping.  Either use the
> program or don’t.
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Re: [LegacyUG] V 9.0.0.226

[Ronald Bernier]

QA = quality assurance.  MH = My Heritage.

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:08 AM <lfa...@charter.net> wrote:

> Just so I know what this issue is all about could someone tell me what QA
> and MH stand for?
>
> *From:* Alan Jones
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 22, 2018 7:07 PM
> *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] V 9.0.0.226
>
> Jan,
>
> If you are going to stop with Legacy v9 what are you going to move to? I
> have seen issues in most productsQA is something all companies are
> struggling with. Not heard any references to V10 anyway have you?
>
> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 12:20 PM Jan B. Hansson <jbhansso...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rune
>>
>> Thanks for the warning. It seems that MH does not know what quality and
>> test means.
>> I've made my choice and stop with Legacy v9 and will not update to future
>> v10
>>
>> Jan,
>>
>> -- Original Meddelelse --
>> Fra: "Rune Mattsson" <rune.matts...@gmail.com>
>> Til: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> Sendt: 22-05-2018 19:11:27
>> Emne: [LegacyUG] V 9.0.0.226
>>
>>
>> A warning and a question:
>>
>> To those of you who have Windows regional setting set to any country
>> that does not use a dot (.) as decimal separator (in Sweden we use a comma).
>>
>> DO NOT INSTALL V 9.0.0.226!!
>>
>> There is a high risk that your database will be corrupt, especially if
>> you are using geocoding.
>>
>> And now the question:
>>
>> How do I return to V 9.0.0.217?
>>
>> Hopefully with the same database.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Update.

[Ronald Bernier]

Never include your customer number in an email to a mailing list.  You just
provided your deluxe version unlock code to EVERYONE who subscribes to this
list.



On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 7:39 PM Tjeerd Belkmeer <tedbelkm...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello
>
> I was notified by email of the update to Leg 9.  I went to the site as
> required and put in my name and email address (the one you see in the
> Signature), pressed next and a new page came up and said look in mailbox
> for site to download the update.  Well after 5 goes at this I still do not
> have a site to go to.
>
> I have a purchased copy of Leg 9 Version 9.0.0.198,  Build Date 16 Sep
> 2017 and
>
> Customer Number of  So I ask what is happening.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature

[Ronald Bernier]

Actually, it was a decision of Microsoft/Bing to change their API and break
the mapping within Legacy.  It was not a decision of Millennia/Legacy.

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 7:46 PM Ian Thomas <il.tho...@outlook.com> wrote:

> Windows 10 updates (eg, 1709) have not caused the ‘Mapping’ in Legacy FT
> to disappear. That was a decision of Millennium.
>
>
>
> ILT
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *P. Rickert
> *Sent:* Sunday, 28 January 2018 9:03 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> This certainly answers my questions about the map. I have tried everything
> to get it back, only to discover that this horrible Windows 1709 update is
> causing even more problems.
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 4:11 PM, Mary Wilson <marywilson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you everyone so much: I was on the phone with tech support thinking
> that I was having issues with my computer not downloading, so I appreciate
> all the answers.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Jan 25, 2018, at 3:54 PM, Ian Thomas <il.tho...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> Mary, it is ‘broken’ for everyone with the latest update (9.0.0.198) to
> Legacy Family Tree.
>
> I understand that this is because Microsoft have changed the way that
> programmers can interface with Bing Maps, and I think the new way (the API
> or applications programming interface) costs software developers
> substantially more than before.
>
>
>
> ILT
>
> Albert Park, Victoria 3206 Australia
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com
> <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com>] *On Behalf Of *Mary Wilson
> *Sent:* Friday, 26 January 2018 9:30 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* [LegacyUG] Mapping feature
>
>
>
> I cannot get the maps to show in the mapping feature: the list is there
> for the family selected, the place for the map appears, blank. I have
> checked the  ​'show map' box in the master location list,I have a deluxe
> edition and current build. I am online,
>
> It used to work, but I haven't tried in a few months and don't know if I
> missed something. I know I had to reinstall when I had computer issues, but
> everything else seems fine, at least that I know of.
>
> Any suggestions: the archive was no help
>
> Mary
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Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files

[Ronald Bernier]

I don’t understand why anyone expects to be reminded of something that the 
program has never done.  From the time that Legacy 9 was released, it was made 
clear that the optional cloud backup was for your database only.  This is the 
screen that everyone gets when doing a backup.  Where, under Legacy Backup is 
there an option to backup Media Files?  It clearly says Family File (only), 
absolutely nothing about Media Files.  So what should Legacy be warning you 
about – I think it is fair of Legacy to deduce that people can read what is 
very clear.

 

 



 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:09 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files

 

A good program will remind you of that each time though in my opinion!

 

 

­

_

 

Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History

217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903

972-254-7952

 <mailto:leon...@mccown.org> leon...@mccown.org --  <http://www.mccown.org> 
http://www.mccown.org

People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to

their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790

_

 

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Ronald Bernier
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:01 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files

 

Legacy has repeatedly made it clear all along that media was not backed up - 
just database.  Michelle Simmons has posted that numerous times both here and 
on FB.  There should be no need for a “warning” as there is nothing to warn 
people about since it had been made very clear that media is not included in 
the Legacy cloud backup.

Ronald Bernier

Woonsocket, RI

USA

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Jay_ingalls <jay_inga...@pipeline.com 
<mailto:jay_inga...@pipeline.com> > wrote:


We should get a warning everytime we back up! Did not know media was not 
included!

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ II Skyrocket™, an AT 4G LTE smartphone.


 Original message 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files 
From: Ronald Bernier <ronaldbern...@fastmail.com 
<mailto:ronaldbern...@fastmail.com> > 
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> > 
CC: 

Media files are not backed up to Legacy cloud - just you database is backed up. 
 You need to restore your media files from your non Legacy cloud backup.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Roxanne Cummings-Basey <roxanne...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:roxanne...@gmail.com> > wrote:
> 
> What did I do wrong? New computer. Legacy 9
> Restored file from Legacy Cloud.
> None of my medial files transferred with the restoration!
> What did I do wrong?
> Thanks so much
> Roxanne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files

[Ronald Bernier]

I give up - guess I’m wrong to expect that people will take the time to read 
and think when it so very clear.  Unfortunately people today just want to put 
the onus on someone else to think for them. Legacy makes it clear in the 
software and Legacy support has made it clear in multiple posts to this list 
that only the database is backed up to Legacy Cloud, not the media files.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Bill Hoff <bh...@mchsi.com> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps adding not including media files?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 11:19 AM, Ronald Bernier <ronaldbern...@fastmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t understand why anyone expects to be reminded of something that the 
>> program has never done.  From the time that Legacy 9 was released, it was 
>> made clear that the optional cloud backup was for your database only.  This 
>> is the screen that everyone gets when doing a backup.  Where, under Legacy 
>> Backup is there an option to backup Media Files?  It clearly says Family 
>> File (only), absolutely nothing about Media Files.  So what should Legacy be 
>> warning you about – I think it is fair of Legacy to deduce that people can 
>> read what is very clear.
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Leonard J. McCown
>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 12:09 PM
>> To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files
>>  
>> A good program will remind you of that each time though in my opinion!
>>  
>>  
>> _
>>  
>> Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History
>> 217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903
>> 972-254-7952
>> leon...@mccown.org -- http://www.mccown.org
>> People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to
>> their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790
>> _
>>  
>>  
>> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Ronald Bernier
>> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2017 10:01 AM
>> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files
>>  
>> Legacy has repeatedly made it clear all along that media was not backed up - 
>> just database.  Michelle Simmons has posted that numerous times both here 
>> and on FB.  There should be no need for a “warning” as there is nothing to 
>> warn people about since it had been made very clear that media is not 
>> included in the Legacy cloud backup.
>> 
>> Ronald Bernier
>> Woonsocket, RI
>> USA
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Jay_ingalls <jay_inga...@pipeline.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> We should get a warning everytime we back up! Did not know media was not 
>> included!
>> 
>> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ II Skyrocket™, an AT 4G LTE smartphone.
>> 
>> 
>>  Original message 
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files 
>> From: Ronald Bernier <ronaldbern...@fastmail.com> 
>> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
>> CC:
>> 
>> Media files are not backed up to Legacy cloud - just you database is backed 
>> up.  You need to restore your media files from your non Legacy cloud backup.
>> 
>> Ronald Bernier
>> Woonsocket, RI
>> USA
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Roxanne Cummings-Basey 
>> > <roxanne...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > What did I do wrong? New computer. Legacy 9
>> > Restored file from Legacy Cloud.
>> > None of my medial files transferred with the restoration!
>> > What did I do wrong?
>> > Thanks so much
>> > Roxanne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files

[Ronald Bernier]

Legacy has repeatedly made it clear all along that media was not backed up - 
just database.  Michelle Simmons has posted that numerous times both here and 
on FB.  There should be no need for a “warning” as there is nothing to warn 
people about since it had been made very clear that media is not included in 
the Legacy cloud backup.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:46 AM, Jay_ingalls <jay_inga...@pipeline.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> We should get a warning everytime we back up! Did not know media was not 
> included!
> 
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S™ II Skyrocket™, an AT 4G LTE smartphone.
> 
> 
>  Original message 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files 
> From: Ronald Bernier <ronaldbern...@fastmail.com> 
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
> CC: 
> 
> 
> Media files are not backed up to Legacy cloud - just you database is backed 
> up.  You need to restore your media files from your non Legacy cloud backup.
> 
> Ronald Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
> USA
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Roxanne Cummings-Basey <roxanne...@gmail.com> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > What did I do wrong? New computer. Legacy 9
> > Restored file from Legacy Cloud.
> > None of my medial files transferred with the restoration!
> > What did I do wrong?
> > Thanks so much
> > Roxanne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Restore in Legacy 9 did not include my media files

[Ronald Bernier]

Media files are not backed up to Legacy cloud - just you database is backed up. 
 You need to restore your media files from your non Legacy cloud backup.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 29, 2017, at 10:20 AM, Roxanne Cummings-Basey <roxanne...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> What did I do wrong? New computer. Legacy 9
> Restored file from Legacy Cloud.
> None of my medial files transferred with the restoration!
> What did I do wrong?
> Thanks so much
> Roxanne
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Re: [LegacyUG] Facebook or mailing list

[Ronald Bernier]

You do realize that non Legacy users can subscribe to this mailing list just as 
easily as they can “apply” to join the Facebook group.  The mailing list is no 
more or no less family than the Facebook group is.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 27, 2017, at 8:02 PM, DonnaMcR <donna...@tx.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> And on this mailing list I feel I can grouse a little bit if I need to.  I 
> realize the FB group is restricted to members only, but it is still more 
> public.  I don’t want to criticize Legacy in public, as it has been a  
> wonderful program for me, and I don’t want non-users to misunderstand.  The 
> mailing list is more “in the family.”
>  
> Donna
>  
>  
> From: Gordon Findlay
> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 6:29 PM
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Facebook or mailing list
>  
> The problem with Facebook as a platform for user group support is that there 
> is no real archive.
>  
> I answered a question I had about Legacy the other day using an archived 
> email message from about 3 years ago.
>  
> Facebook is designed to focus on the most recent activity only. It is 
> hopeless as an archive.
>  
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hello from MyHeritage + 2 unique offers

[Ronald Bernier]

Pursuant to your point, have you made any effort to contact the folks at My 
Heritage to discuss your concerns with them?  There have been numerous posts by 
folks who have taken the time and effort to contact My Heritage.  Thus far, 
they have all reported favorable results.

 

Ronald Bernier

Woonsocket, RI

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of marion wimsett
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 9:54 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hello from MyHeritage + 2 unique offers

 

That is my point - it is stated in the email - but not in the agreement to 
purchase contract - there is a difference

 

On 12 September 2017 at 21:28, bobsgenealogy <bobsgeneal...@bell.net 
<mailto:bobsgeneal...@bell.net> > wrote:

I did the same thing - I have been a MyHeritage customer for a few years - I 
just called and they gave me the same offer with no new email or new name - as 
Vivian said ‘it was easy and they were as nice as pie’.

 

On 11Sep, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Vivian Gullickson White <vwhit...@gmail.com 
<mailto:vwhit...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I don't know why people ASSUME that they can't get the deal because they 
already have a subscription. I called and asked and got it. I didn't have to 
sign up with a new name, or cancel, or anything. It was easy and they were nice 
as pie.

Secondly, the price lock mention was in the email. It states

"PLUS: Those who subscribe before Sunday night, September 10, will enjoy a 
Price-Lock Guarantee. For as long as you keep the subscription, the price will 
remain 50% discounted and will never increase in the future. This is a unique 
offer that MyHeritage is giving only to Legacy users and webinar viewers."

When you click on the link, it brings you to MyHeritage and the last sentence 
on the second paragragh says very clearly that the price is locked. 
https://www.myheritage.com/partner/LegacyFamilyTreeCompleteSep17?utm_source=partner_legacy
 
<https://www.myheritage.com/partner/LegacyFamilyTreeCompleteSep17?utm_source=partner_legacy_medium=email_campaign=legacy_summer_offer_content=complete>
 _medium=email_campaign=legacy_summer_offer_content=complete

 

 

On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:22 PM, JoAnne Flynn <jflyn...@gmail.com 
<mailto:jflyn...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sign up using a different email and credit card how would they know

Josie Flynn

703 628-2100 <tel:(703)%20628-2100> 

jflyn...@aol.com <mailto:jflyn...@aol.com> 


On Sep 4, 2017, at 5:33 PM, Anne Hildrum <ahild...@gmail.com 
<mailto:ahild...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Well one way is to cancel the subscription, and most likely they will come up 
with a better deal.

I know several people who have done that, and MH wants them back and give them 
a better offer.

 

Anne

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Wendy Edwards
Sent: Monday, September 4, 2017 10:15 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hello from MyHeritage + 2 unique offers

 

Easy - basic economics.

 

The reason that My Heritage is making this special offer is to grow their 
market. They already have subscribers, who, at least the vast majority, don't 
need cossetting to remain. Exisiting customers are unlikely to put themselves 
through the difficulty and time of creating new accounts.

 

The way for My Heritage to make more money is with new customers, not giving 
money away via special deals to existing ones.

Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2017 at 4:16 AM
From: "Rick Koelz" <r...@koelz.com <mailto:r...@koelz.com> >
To: "Legacy User Group" <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com 
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Hello from MyHeritage + 2 unique offers

Don't miss your chance to get this exclusive low price for Legacy Family Tree 
users! This limited time offer will expire on September 10, 2017! 
* Eligible for new MyHeritage paying subscribers only 

 

It always ticks me off when EXISTING, LOYAL customers are exempt from special 
deals. 

Should I cancel my current subscription and wait until the 9th and sign up for 
this deal? Or should I delete my current MyHeritage account and tree and sign 
up with a new identification

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Re: [LegacyUG] Comparing commercial websites

[Ronald Bernier]

I have Malwarebytes and Windows Defender on my PC.  Neither one reported any 
issues with the link.  I was able to download the “handout” in PDF format.  I 
removed McAfee from my computer long ago because of the numerous false 
positives.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Leonard J. McCown <leon...@mccown.org> wrote:
> 
> Oh, I love a good video. Many times when folks write out the instructions, 
> they assume things and leave out steps.
>  
> _
>  
> Leonard J. McCown, Irving, Texas -- McCown Family History
> 217 West 14th Street, Irving, Texas 75060-5903
> 972-254-7952
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> People will not look forward to posterity who never look backward to
> their ancestors. -- Edmund Burke, 1790
> _
>  
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of CE WOOD
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Comparing commercial websites
>  
> I do so hate videos and MUCH prefer the written word, but unfortunately, the 
> site for the handout is a "dangerous site" according to McAfee!
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> CE
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Re: [LegacyUG] Tagging for Family Group Webpages

[Ronald Bernier]

Don’t you mean that you only want to include people born before 1900?

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 9, 2017, at 3:19 PM, DonnaMcR <donna...@tx.rr.com> wrote:

Hello:

I have had my Legacy-generated genealogy website up for years, but it is
definitely time to update it.  However, I am running into a problem.

For privacy reasons, I only include persons born after 1900.  I have given
a Tag 1 to these persons.

For a family group website, under the “Who” tab, I have selected “All
records with an individual tag of 1.”  Yet when I create the webpages, all
individuals appear.  What am I doing wrong?

I appreciate any help.  I have looked in the Help section of Legacy both
online and in the software, but found no help there.

Regards,

Donna

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Re: [LegacyUG] digest mode?

[Ronald Bernier]

The biggest downside is that there are too many people who do not know how
to respond to messages in a digest (they tend to send the whole digest back
to the list repeatedly), and most of those who don't know how to respond
will not/have no desire to take the time to learn how to respond to digest
messages.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

On Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 5:29 PM, Michael Feldman <mfeld...@gwu.edu> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> If I'm not mistaken, this group is hosted under the Mailman program. I
> checked the Mailman website and discovered this:
>
> "Q. What does Mailman's "digest" checkbox do?
> "A. Mailman's "Membership Management" screen shows the subscribers to your
> list and the various options set for each subscriber. One of these options
> is the "digest" checkbox. If a subscriber has the "digest" box checked,
> that subscriber will not receive each message as it's sent to the list.
> Instead, the day's messages will be grouped together and sent as a single
> message. If your list sends several messages a day, the digest option gives
> the subscriber a way to cut down on the total number of messages in his or
> her "in box", while still seeing everything sent to the list."
>
> So apparently it would be possible for this list to support digests, just
> by checking a box for the individual subscriber. There seems to be no
> technical reason for Legacy UG not to support this. Legacy managers, would
> you be willing to do it if a subscriber requests it? Is there a downside?
>
> Best regards,
> Michael Feldman
> Portland, Oregon
>
> Ronald Bernier wrote:
>
> No digest mode.  Although there have been some/many requests over the
> years, there has never been a digest mode.
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:14 AM Dennis Murphy <dmurf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does this mail list have a digest mode and, if so, sub URL please.
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Re: [LegacyUG] digest mode?

[Ronald Bernier]

No digest mode.  Although there have been some/many requests over the
years, there has never been a digest mode.

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:14 AM Dennis Murphy <dmurf...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does this mail list have a digest mode and, if so, sub URL please.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Asked to Join

[Ronald Bernier]

This is a mailing list (totally separate from Google+).  There is no
indiviual(s) sending the messages to the group.  It is an automated process
whereby when one member/subscriber posts a message, the message is
automatically sent out to all subscribers.  If you want to subscribe to the
Google+ group, you do that directly from Google+ (either via
computet/smartphone/tablet).

Sending a message through this mailing list does not get you subscribed to
the Facebook group nor the Google+ group.

Ronald Bernier



On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:14 AM Jensine Turner <jensineturne...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wouldnt know about screenshots.   Yep probably control person that
> forwards to all members of group
>
>
> On Jun 10, 2017 10:10 AM, "Brian Balkcom" <brianbalk...@tds.net> wrote:
>
> Strange…Who is this email going to? I see it says “On Behalf Of Jensine
> Turner.”  So maybe there is a controller bunny that receives and
> distributes messages. And I am guessing that it is not possible to attach
> screenshots.
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian Balkcom
>
> brianbalk...@tds.net
>
> 912-576-1911 <(912)%20576-1911>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Jensine Turner
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:32 AM
>
> *To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Asked to Join
>
>
>
> guess we don't..  I just joined also and just started getting these
> e-mails from other members asking and answering questions.
>
> Jensine
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 9:22 AM, Brian Balkcom <brianbalk...@tds.net>
> wrote:
>
> Guess I’m thickheaded or something. Shouldn’t I get something that says
> I’m “in or out?”
> Brian
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Jensine Turner
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:02 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Asked to Join
>
>
>
> Brian... looks like you were trying to join the LGU... Legacy users
> group.  You are on it  getting replys and sending messages to each other..
>
> Jensine​
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:54 AM, Brian Balkcom <brianbalk...@tds.net>
> wrote:
>
> Cathy Pinner,
>
> No, I’m not on facebook. Don’t have a fb account. Isn’t
> there a LUGrp on google +? That’s what I would like to join. I clicked the
> link that said, “*Ask to Join*” and am awaiting an answer. Seems like a
> lot of confusion for a simple request. Even if I were an axe murderer, it
> would seem that I could at least be told that I’m denied entry based on
> “bad blood.”
>
>
>
>
>
> Brian Balkcom
>
> brianbalk...@tds.net
>
> 912-576-1911 <(912)%20576-1911>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Cathy Pinner
> *Sent:* Friday, June 9, 2017 9:17 PM
> *To:* Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Asked to Join
>
>
>
> Brian,
>
> That sounds like language associated with the Facebook group. Are you
> trying to join the Legacy Group on Facebook?
> How long it takes to get approval depends on whether one of the people who
> can give approval is online. Sometimes it takes seconds sometimes a couple
> of hours. Rarely more as I'm one of the people who can approve and live on
> the opposite side of the world to the others.
>
> Cathy
>
> Brian Balkcom wrote:
>
>
> How long does it take to get approval/denial?
>
> Brian Balkcom
>
> brianbalk...@tds.net
>
> 912-576-1911 <(912)%20576-1911>
>
>
>
>
>
> [image: Image removed by sender.]
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=icon>
>
> Virus-free. www.avast.com
> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=emailclient_term=link>
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Re: [LegacyUG] LDS members

[Ronald Bernier]

It is probably hard to believe, but not all Family Search users/subscribers
are Legacy users.  Family Search is concerned about updating their own
system for all of their users.  If it breaks the API for some of the users
that link to them through Legacy or some other software, then that is just
how it is.  It is up to the software developers to "fix" their software in
order to continue to offer the link to their customers.

I don't understand how people get this mistaken idea the Family Search (or
some other service) has done anything wrong because they had the audicity
to update/upgrade their website/service - that they make available free of
charge.


On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 10:09 AM Allen Prunty <al...@alprunty.com> wrote:

> Why do they like to do things like this ☹ it was working just fine.  You
> would think that Ancestry and Familysearch were the us Government where if
> it’s not broken they keep fixing it until it is.
>
>
>
> Allen
>
>
>
> *From: *LegacyUserGroup <legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com> on
> behalf of Michele/Support <mich...@legacyfamilytree.com>
>
> LDS members - FamilySearch has changed their API (the programming code we
> use to interface with them) so you won't be able to see your Ordinance
> information on FamilySearch through Legacy (via the Temple tab). Luc is
> working on fixing the code on our side to match theirs and then we will get
> an update out as soon as possible.
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Hints & My Heritage

[Ronald Bernier]

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 5:13 PM Martha Graham <martha...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> Not exactly correct.
> If you have a LDS account [not as a member, but as a user of the FS -
> Legacy Integration,] it comes up with the login screen. When I first
> tried it on day one of V9, it did an auto log in after I set up my user
> id and pw for FS.
>
> Did the first update change that?
>
> Martha
>
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Curious as to why you are correcting what Brian said.  You are stating how
the login works for Family Search.  However the OP was questioning the
login to My Heritage hints, and that is what Brian was responding to.
Family Search and My Heritage hints have nothing to do with each other.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Cloud Backup

[Ronald Bernier]

My understanding is the cloud backup is for the database only.  At present you 
can not backup the media files to the cloud.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPad

On Apr 24, 2017, at 3:43 PM, Dale Carmack 
<dcarm...@md.metrocast.net<mailto:dcarm...@md.metrocast.net>> wrote:

I just noticed (after my initial setup) that when the backup occurs the Family 
file and media files are backed up to my computer but only the family file is 
backed up to the cloud.  By the way I hope they add better cloud backup 
information in the Help system and also as a customization as I like to never 
figured out how to re-access it (“cloud” or “online” backup” are not in the 
help).  I finally tried the backup button on the ribbon and saw the check boxes 
but there is no check box for media to the cloud.  I figured I missed it in the 
setup so I clicked on manage account but nothing happens.

If I click on manage account and click login it just returns to the “backup 
dialog box screen”.  If I click on “register account” and then modify the URL 
to remove “register” then click login I get the following below the Submit 
button and nothing else happens:

Database Problem~~string(362) "SELECT 
DBTitle,Public,DefPicPath,DropboxPictureFolder,DropboxAccessToken,d.Active,NamelistToken,AllPersonsToken,Server_IP,DB_ID,Filename,dbPath,dbToken,OwnerID,ShowLDS,Writable,DefaultRin,Permissions,f.FamilyID,f.GlobalID
 FROM FamilyList f LEFT JOIN DatabaseList d ON f.FamilyID=d.FamilyID WHERE 
f.UserID=2014 AND d.Deleted+0=0 AND f.Active=1 ORDER BY f.FamilyID"

So either I can’t do it this way, or maybe there is an access problem.  Can you 
backup the media files to the cloud?

Thanks,
dale

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Re: [LegacyUG] Still Window$ only?

[Ronald Bernier]

You can purchase Families for iOS.  With Families (available in the App Store), 
you can sync your Legacy database to the Families app.  With Families, you can 
enter data in the app and sync the changes back to your Legacy database.

(Not associated with TelGen/Families, just a very satisfied customer.)

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
USA
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 19, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Wes Jester <wes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Looking at the release notes, it seems that ver. 9 is still a windows only 
> piece of software.  I would love to be able to run it on my iPad as it is 
> that device which goes with me everywhere when I interview relatives or do 
> research.
> 
> Is there any way I can run it on my iPad?  I would hate to have to move to 
> other software after several years with legacy.
> 
> Wes
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree Webinars Free Weekend

[Ronald Bernier]

Actually, it was posted here a couple of days ago.



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On Sat, Apr 15, 2017, at 04:17 PM, sfmsea...@mediacombb.net wrote:

> "This weekend Legacy Family Tree Webinars is opening its whole
> library of
> genealogy educational video classes to everyone for FREE in
> celebration
> of the release of its 500th webinar class. These classes are available
> directly from your computer." Quote from article here

> http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2017/04/how-to-choose-from-500-free-classes.html
> This is available Friday April 14 through Sunday April 16. I
> saw this on
> the Legacy News site, a banner on the webinar page and on
> facebook, but I
> didn't see it posted here. Thought their might be folks
> interested that
> missed the announcements.

>

> Sheila

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Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] Malicious Attempt to remove email address

[Ronald Bernier]

Stan, thank you for your very gracious response.  Have a wonderful day Stan

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Stan 
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2016 7:26 AM
To: 'Legacy User Group' <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] [Legacy] Malicious Attempt to remove email address

 

16 emails from different individuals??  Does that suggest anything to you?
Look at your previous posts for a hint

No I am not in Melbourne  nor did I ever try to unsubscribe myself or anyone
from the list  although at odd times have wished they might do it themselves

 

Cheers from Stan

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On
Behalf Of Ronald Bernier
Sent: Thursday, 30 June 2016 10:55 p.m.
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>

Subject: [LegacyUG] Malicious Attempt to remove email address

 

Legacy support - I received a total of 16 emails from the Legacy user group:
"Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list LegacyUserGroup

We have received a request from 101.182.213.246 for the removal of your
email address, "rlbern...@runbox.com <mailto:rlbern...@runbox.com> " from
the legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
mailing list".  Needless to say, since I did not submit any request(s) to
remove myself from the list, I did not select the option to confirm the
request.  In addition, I received one email:   "You, or someone posing as
you, has requested a password reminder for your membership on the mailing
list legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> ".  Again, I did not make this
request, but fortunately the password was sent to me and not the person who
illegally requested it.

 

The IP address belongs to someone who uses the Telstra Internet service in
Melbourne, Australia.  I have contacted Telstra and filed a formal complaint
with them.  I am hoping that Telstra will terminate the individuals service,
but unfortunately I seriously doubt that that will happen.

 

I have previously complained to Millennia (under the old system) that there
were users who maliciously removed subscribers from the list.
Unfortunately, Millennia was not interested in persuing this.  Now, at least
with the new system, we get notification when someone tries to maliciously
unsubscribe another user.  More important, we get an IP Address so that we
can report this abuse.

 

Ronald Bernier

Woonsocket, RI

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[LegacyUG] Malicious Attempt to remove email address

[Ronald Bernier]

Legacy support - I received a total of 16 emails from the Legacy user group:
"Mailing list removal confirmation notice for mailing list LegacyUserGroup

We have received a request from 101.182.213.246 for the removal of your
email address, "rlbern...@runbox.com <mailto:rlbern...@runbox.com> " from
the legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com <mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
mailing list".  Needless to say, since I did not submit any request(s) to
remove myself from the list, I did not select the option to confirm the
request.  In addition, I received one email:   "You, or someone posing as
you, has requested a password reminder for your membership on the mailing
list legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
<mailto:legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com> ".  Again, I did not make this
request, but fortunately the password was sent to me and not the person who
illegally requested it.

 

The IP address belongs to someone who uses the Telstra Internet service in
Melbourne, Australia.  I have contacted Telstra and filed a formal complaint
with them.  I am hoping that Telstra will terminate the individuals service,
but unfortunately I seriously doubt that that will happen.

 

I have previously complained to Millennia (under the old system) that there
were users who maliciously removed subscribers from the list.
Unfortunately, Millennia was not interested in persuing this.  Now, at least
with the new system, we get notification when someone tries to maliciously
unsubscribe another user.  More important, we get an IP Address so that we
can report this abuse.

 

Ronald Bernier

Woonsocket, RI

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Re: [LegacyUG] Unwanted emails

[Ronald Bernier]

Response not warranted through the list.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of marion wimsett
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 8:46 AM
To: Legacy User Group <legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unwanted emails

 

Ronald, you are obviously not aware of Internet courtesy, or even general 
politeness. You do not "shout" at people (by way of using capital letters), and 
I have merely taken the time to try and assist those who do not understand the 
problem, thereby hopefully putting a stop to future emails. I have done this in 
the spirit of friendliness which exists in most members of the User Group.

On Friday, 24 June 2016, Ronald Bernier <rlbern...@runbox.com 
<mailto:rlbern...@runbox.com> > wrote:

PLEASE – ENOUGH ALRERADY.  WE HAVE HEARD ENOUGH TIMES THAT THE MESSAGES DID NOT 
ORIGINATE FROM THE LEGACY SERVERS.  STOP RPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER 
AND OVER AGAIN.  WE DO NOT NEED YOUR ENDLESS EXPLANATIONS. STOP ALREADY.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com');> ] On 
Behalf Of marion wimsett
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:05 AM
To: Legacy User Grroup <LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com');> >
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unwanted emails

 

Not all of the formatting stayed as it should have done - instead of being in 
red some is bolded and underlined.

 

On 24 June 2016 at 13:03, marion wimsett <2wi...@gmail.com 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','2wi...@gmail.com');> > wrote:

OK - for all of those people who are absolutely convinced that Legacy are 
responsible for the numerous emails you are receiving - they are not! I have 
taken the time to copy the headers from one of my emails sent to me from a 
genuine company (I have cut out some of the details for privacy reasons only).

 

I have underlined marked in red the differences between the headers which are 
the important parts to show if an email is coming from a genuine source.

 

The next header is one from a "supposed" email from Legacy, when you check the 
headers (again the important ones marked in red and underlined) and compare 
them with the genuine email you can see the differences quite easily at the 
bottom.

 

I hope this helps with all of you trying to blame Legacy.

 

Headers from an acceptable email

 

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Unwanted emails

[Ronald Bernier]

PLEASE – ENOUGH ALRERADY.  WE HAVE HEARD ENOUGH TIMES THAT THE MESSAGES DID NOT 
ORIGINATE FROM THE LEGACY SERVERS.  STOP RPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER 
AND OVER AGAIN.  WE DO NOT NEED YOUR ENDLESS EXPLANATIONS. STOP ALREADY.

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of marion wimsett
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 1:05 AM
To: Legacy User Grroup 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Unwanted emails

 

Not all of the formatting stayed as it should have done - instead of being in 
red some is bolded and underlined.

 

On 24 June 2016 at 13:03, marion wimsett <2wi...@gmail.com 
 > wrote:

OK - for all of those people who are absolutely convinced that Legacy are 
responsible for the numerous emails you are receiving - they are not! I have 
taken the time to copy the headers from one of my emails sent to me from a 
genuine company (I have cut out some of the details for privacy reasons only).

 

I have underlined marked in red the differences between the headers which are 
the important parts to show if an email is coming from a genuine source.

 

The next header is one from a "supposed" email from Legacy, when you check the 
headers (again the important ones marked in red and underlined) and compare 
them with the genuine email you can see the differences quite easily at the 
bottom.

 

I hope this helps with all of you trying to blame Legacy.

 

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Re: [LegacyUG] Mail addresses compromised?

[Ronald Bernier]

With all due respect, I really wish Legacy support would put an end to this 
endless conversation.  I don't know how much clearer it can be made that these 
messages DID NOT come from the Legacy mail server.  The true s*p*a*m coming 
from the Legacy server is from the people who feel they need to keep this 
thread going (this poster included).

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 23, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Chris Hill <chris.hill.11he...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi
>  
> One thing that most people do not know of is that ANYONE can 
> send an email with totally fake sender addresses if they are prepared to 
> write a simple piece of code with an built in SMTP interface. I know because 
> I did it to prove that it would work. It is one of the methods that the 
> spammers do when sending their fake emails, plus lifting the targets from the 
> user’s own system.
>  
> We really do need a system like DMARC enforcement in place 
> for all emails to verify that the email actually came from the alleged sender.
>  
> Regards
>  
> Chris
>  
> From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sherry/Support
> Sent: 21 June 2016 22:47
> To: Legacy User Group
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mail addresses compromised?
>  
> This is the first I've heard of it - I've not received any spam beyond the 
> "normal" ones I get each week.
> 
> Someone's email account may have been hijacked. One of the latest tricks is 
> to hijack an account and pick an email address from the address book. then 
> they send the email using the person's name and the stolen email address, so 
> they really don't match.
>  
>  
> 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Sherry 
> Technical Support 
> Legacy Family Tree
>  
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 2:24 PM, Jodi <jimmys...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I wonder why nothing was said.  It is just annoying, I had 1009 then I got 
> spammed with them again while I was removing them and got about 500 more, so 
> they are still out there.  I had to do them one by one, as I had e-mail in 
> between them.  I have now marked them spam and I have 916 in my spam folder 
> LOL!
>  
>  
>  
> 
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 4:27 PM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:
>  
> 
>  
> You don't use a password with for legacyusergroup.
> 
> Great silence from Legacy regarding this breach of THEIR address, though.
> 
> 
> CE
> 
> From: chap...@gmail.com
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:36:44 -0700
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Mail addresses compromised?
> 
> You better start changing your PW for many of your accounts.
> 
> ___
> Leon Chapman
> chap...@gmail.com
> -
>  
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2016 at 12:31 PM, Ros Haywood <ros.hayw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The spammer has upped his game.  Now I am receiving emails from him that say 
> that my order has been accepted, and he gives me a link to click if I want to 
> cancel.
> 
> Yeah, right.  Like I'm going to click on a suspect link in an email.
> 
> Ros in UK
> 
> On 21/06/2016 19:19, Alex MacPhee wrote:
> Over the last few days, I have been getting lots of e-mails, apparently
> from legacyusergroup, all junk mail. In a period of just three minutes
> today, I have received 945! They clearly have nothing to do with Legacy
> or legacy groups. Has anyone else been experiencing this or similar? The
> address is one I only use for reputable mailing lists like this, so I
> wonder if there has been some kind of compromising going on, and felt it
> might be worth mentioning here.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Alex
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Re: [LegacyUG] LUG vs FB

[Ronald Bernier]

CE, I am sure you can create a filter to direct LUG FB posts to their own 
folder, but I can't really give you directions as I don't use email filters.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 11, 2016, at 2:11 PM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Ron,
> 
> Can you have only the posts to this group on FB delivered to a separate 
> folder the same way LUG posts are, so they don't clog up your mailbox?  Only 
> the posts from this group, not posts to other FB groups or friends.
> 
> If so, how?
> 
> 
> CE 
> 
> From: ronaldbern...@fastmail.com
> Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2016 13:32:15 -0400
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LUG vs FB
> 
> CE, you can subscribe to the Facebook posts and have them delivered to your 
> mailbox (which is what I do), but unfortunately you have made it clear that 
> you don't want a Facebook account.
> 
> Ronald Bernier
> Woonsocket, RI
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [LegacyUG] LUG vs FB

[Ronald Bernier]

CE, you can subscribe to the Facebook posts and have them delivered to your 
mailbox (which is what I do), but unfortunately you have made it clear that you 
don't want a Facebook account.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 11, 2016, at 1:03 PM, CE WOOD <wood...@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Alas. A good forum is inclusive, but Legacy is unwilling to share FB posts 
> here? Sad. A loss that impacts all Legacy users.
> 
> 
> CE 
> 
> Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 22:15:14 -0700
> From: cglewi...@gmail.com
> To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] LUG vs FB
> 
> ..."and never the twain shall meet."  -- Unfortunately
> 
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Michele/Support 
> <mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> wrote:
> Those people that want to communicate via the mailing list should continue to 
> do so
> 
> Those people that want to communicate via Facebook should continue to do so
> 
>  
> 
> No further discussion is needed on the subject.
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Re: [LegacyUG] remove

[Ronald Bernier]

In Facebook, all you have to do is click unfollow.  You will no longer be a 
participant in the group.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 8, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Larre Egbert <legb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Please remove me from the usergroup!
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] BYU Relative Finder

[Ronald Bernier]

Thank you Eliz. I do have a FS account but I mistakenly thought Michelle's link 
was a direct link to the Legacy group.  I logged in using my own FS 
credentials.  The results told me that I'm not related to anyone :>(

-Original Message-
From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Eliz Hanebury
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 4:03 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] BYU Relative Finder

Do you have an account at familysearch.org? You use that to log in, if not you 
need to register, it is a pain  but it is free and then you can access the 
Legacy group.
Eliz
Not Today and Not without a Fight
(Anon)

For all that has been, thanks.
For all that will be, yes.
(Dag Hammarskjold)

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Re: [LegacyUG] BYU Relative Finder

[Ronald Bernier]

Michelle,

When I click on your link, it take me to a page that says the session has 
expired.  Clicking on Login takes me to the Family Search page where You are 
asked for your user name and password.

Ronald Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPad

> On Mar 7, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Michele/Support <mich...@legacyfamilytree.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> The link is 
> 
> https://www.relativefinder.org/#/groups/91743/join 
> 
> 
> The password is 
> 
> LUG
> 
> 
> 
> Michele
> Technical Support
> Millennia Corporation
> mich...@legacyfamilytree.com
> www.legacyfamilytree.com 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Error in new version

[Ronald Bernier]

CE, since you feel that you repeatedly need to voice your negative anti-legacy 
comments, why don’t you just move on and find a program that fits your needs.  
Obviously, Legacy is not that program.  Are there bugs in Legacy – yes, there 
are. However,  I challenge you to find any program that doesn’t have bugs.  Are 
the bugs as serious and as numerous as you try to make everyone think they are 
– absolutely not.  As David indicated, often times, people come on this list 
and complain about a bug that they encountered, when the reality is that the 
user was responsible for the issue, not the program.



Ron Bernier



From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2015 9:07 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error in new version



I am so glad for you, but the bug list is long, well-documented, and makes it 
impossible to meet deadlines for reports, conferences, et alia.

Perhaps you have simple needs and small databases, don't have deadlines to be 
met that the bugs make impossible, and so forth. A cursory search of the 
archive will show you what you have missed and that we are missing. Some of the 
bugs have gone uncorrected since Legacy 8 was introduced. Not being able to 
earn your living for that long because of old and new bugs? Please.


CE


  _

Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 19:41:25 -0500
From: hee...@usit.net 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Error in new version

Got to agree...this is a great program & I've had few problems over the 
years...and those were quickly resolved.

I think they are doing a great job.

Sally

On 9/6/2015 7:25 PM, David Abernathy wrote:

I have been running Lrgacy for msny years and as of yet to have any of these 
issues tha have been brought forward. It appears to me that they are mainly do 
to ones own doings and poor system maintance.
Sent from my Kindle Fire
In God We Trust




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From: CE WOOD   
Sent: Sun Sep 06 16:59:37 PDT 2015
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com 
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Error in new version



"It seems every time that the programmers make a change, they mess something 
else up. It's as if they don't run through the program and fully test 
everything except what they change. Â I retired as a systems developer and if 
we had turned out stuff like this, we would be out of a job."Â
Â
AMEN!
Â
How sad to ruin the great Legacy reputation this way.


CEÂ
Â


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From: genechar...@outlook.com 
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Error in new version
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2015 16:55:05 -0400

I just loaded version .516 yesterday and already the 1st thing I did brought an 
error and shutdown.





I went to change a child status and got a run-time error 3800, 'ChildStatus' is 
not an index in this table. Â And, when you click to get out of the error it 
shuts down Legacy.





I have never had a problem with this before. It seems every time that the 
programmers make a change, they mess something else up. It's as if they don't 
run through the program and fully test everything except what they change. Â I 
retired as a systems developer and if we had turned out stuff like this, we 
would be out of a job.Â


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RE: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown

[Ronald Bernier]

Please keep your bigoted comments to yourself.  No one has ever been/will ever 
be forced to use any option they are not interested in.  I too would like to be 
able to properly record my partner of 38 years as my spouse.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

-Original Message-
From: Charani [mailto:phoenixantis...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:30 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Gender of child unknown

On 29/01/2015 02:20, Ken Neundorf wrote:
 I use that work around but when I make reports it will not connect the 
 spouses in both families. This is the only complaint I have about this 
 program. I would like to see you make the extensive changes.

I think whether it would be cost effective for Legacy to make the expensive 
major change would depend on how many users needed/wanted the option and 
whether it could be tailored to suit both sides.

You want the change. I don't need it.  Therefore, we cancel one another out.

--
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OPC for Walton,  Ashcott, Shapwick,
Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message

[Ronald Bernier]

Charini,

The problem has nothing to do with Legacy software.  The issue is with the 
software being used for the mailing list.  Millennia (Legacy) employs the 
services of a third party for their email server.  The problem and refusal to 
fix the problem lies solely with the third party.  It is senseless to blame the 
user for an issue with the mail server - makes absolutely zero sense.  I'm sure 
if Millennia put pressure on the third party to fix the problem or lose their 
business, the issue would be resolved.  Unfortunately it appears that Millennia 
is not really interested in insisting that the issue be corrected.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



-Original Message-
From: Charani [mailto:phoenixantis...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 7:42 AM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message

On 26/01/2015 02:22, Jerry wrote:
 I have first-hand knowledge of this problem about the list that has
 absolutely nothing to do with spam settings or anything else. *It is
 definitely a bug, but apparently it doesn't happen every time*. Used
 to be that you could carefully go back and CUT and PASTE the URL link
 from that welcoming email to your browser and fix the problem, but
 last time I also had to contact support because the CUT and PASTE would not 
 work.
 Just seeing a lot about bugs not fixed yet and wonder if I just spent
 money foolishly by upgrading to Legacy 8 recently? Hopefully not,
 Legacy always seemed to be a great product - hope they can more
 diligently work on the bugs - hire another staff member, if needed.

One of the things I said was that intermittent faults are hard to resolve and 
you are saying exactly that's what it is and it doesn't affect everyone.

You are having problems.  I'm not.  That suggests it is not a bug per se but a 
combination of factors between the product and the user that's causing the 
problem.  Whilst others are having similar problems, they may not be exactly 
the same. /That/ will make it nigh on impossible to resolve and hiring 
additional staff is unlikely to make a difference.

If all users were having the same problem, it would probably be a bug and 
easier to resolve.

Legacy IS a great product.


--
Charani (UK)
OPC for Walton,  Ashcott, Shapwick,
Greinton and Clutton, SOM
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RE: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message

[Ronald Bernier]

It has become obvious that Millennia will never insist that the folks who run 
the email server fix the problem or they will take their business elsewhere.  
That being said, I would prefer to see the Legacy list move entirely to the 
Rootsweb servers.  That would eliminate folks sending attachments to the list.  
It would also force folks to send email in plain text only.  Most importantly, 
it would ensure that folks could subscribe to the list and/or change their 
receiving email address without having to jump through hoops.



Ron Bernier

Woonsocket, RI



From: Jerry [mailto:bearjerca...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2015 9:23 PM
To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] RE: My Legacy Test Message



I have first-hand knowledge of this problem about the list that has absolutely 
nothing to do with spam settings or anything else. It is definitely a bug, but 
apparently it doesn't happen every time. Used to be that you could carefully go 
back and CUT and PASTE the URL link from that welcoming email to your browser 
and fix the problem, but last time I also had to contact support because the 
CUT and PASTE would not work. Just seeing a lot about bugs not fixed yet and 
wonder if I just spent money foolishly by upgrading to Legacy 8 recently? 
Hopefully not, Legacy always seemed to be a great product - hope they can more 
diligently work on the bugs - hire another staff member, if needed.

Jerry

On 26/01/2015 01:50, Jerry wrote:

It is unfortunate that a reputable company like Legacy can't fix this
problem or get a different third-party for their email groups - it has
been happening this way for*YEARS*. That other problem on the website I
reported multiple times involving clicking on*HELP CENTER*  has never
been fixed after many months either. If the company can't fix these
routine problems, makes one wonder about the more major issues? Sorry
for my venting my frustration.





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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

[Ronald Bernier]

JimS,
Try to read the original message carefully - the question asked was why the 
letters showed up in the LUG messages.  The question had absolutely nothing to 
do with Legacy.

Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 8, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Karen and Jim sindbe...@att.net wrote:

 Doug,

 Don't believe this has nothing to do with Legacy.

 If you need to enter a word having a diacritical mark,
 then Legacy must be able to store and present it
 properly.  That in turn means that your computer
 must store and reproduce data with diacritical
 marks.  I've had to make certain adjustments
 with my operating systems (OS) to be able to enter
 words with diacritical marks in Legacy.



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Re: [LegacyUG] Subscription

[Ronald Bernier]

Anne,
The fact that you are able to send messages to the list, and received the email 
from Kathy via the list indicates that you are indeed subscribed to the list.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 7, 2013, at 9:37 AM, Anne agdy...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Nothing in the spam folder, Kathy, but thanks for the suggestion!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Â Â Â

[Ronald Bernier]

Bottom line - this has nothing at all to do with Legacy, so why is this subject 
being driven into the ground.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Nov 5, 2013, at 8:27 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot br...@the-lightfoots.com 
 wrote:

 Yes, that is mostly true but I think that using HTML can send certain 
 characters that cannot be directly represented in plain text. One of the 
 biggest examples are the emoticons. If I send a smiley face in plain text, 
 it consists of 3 separate characters (colon, hyphen, close parenthesis) but 
 within HTML, those get re-interpreted by whatever characters set the user is 
 using (Windows, Mac, etc) and is changed to one smiley face character usually 
 from a special symbols typeface.  And another example is this: I will insert 
 a “horizontal line” below this paragraph. You should see it because I am 
 sending in HTML. If you attempt to reply to this message and switch to plain 
 text, I think the horizontal line will disappear entirely.

 Horizontal line here:

 One character smiley face here: J

 Beyond that, I think the OP can rest easy about any weird characters showing 
 up on messages in this forum. Usually one can determine what the original 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Mobile Interface

[Ronald Bernier]

Go to the Telgen web site and download Families Sync

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:28 AM, Don Hendershot donald.henders...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

 Where can I get a replacement copy of the transfer software for my PC 
 (Legacy) to iPhone (Families) use?

 My PC crashed and I had to install a new hard drive and reinstall Legacy.  
 Now, I need that link to get my Families database back over from my iPhone to 
 my PC.

 Thanks in advance,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on a tablet

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I use Splashtop desktop on my PC.  With the Splashtop iOS app, I can work on 
Legacy (or any other program) from my iPad anywhere/anytime without any 
problems.

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:54 PM, Ed Allard allfam1...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Found an interesting alternative to Families and other tablet genealogy 
 configurations.  Parallels Access lets me run Legacy on an iPad and enter 
 data directly to my main home computer Legacy database without synching, 
 converting or transferring.  I'm not sure if there is an Android version, but 
 it works well on an iPad, even better with an external keyboard.  Pretty well 
 all the functions are there.  Anyone else had any experience with this?  Any 
 pitfalls I may not have encountered yet?  Pricey though: $50/year (mine came 
 free for 6 months bundled with a Parallels upgrade).  Thought I'd share.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Families app and IOS7

[Ronald Bernier]

Paul,
Families is working fine with iOS7 for me.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 19, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Paul Gray graypa...@outlook.com wrote:

 Has anybody using Families for iPad/iPhone downloaded IOS7 and is the app
 compatible with the new OS? I can see nothing about it on the TelGen
 website.

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Re: [LegacyUG] River as Place of Death

[Ronald Bernier]

I got the impression that Sherry was trying to give an example of how to record 
the entry, not necessarily record the exact entry.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 18, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Randy Clark ceddaco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Not sure why she left out the name of the Spanish province (Córdoba).


 On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Sherry/Support 
 she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
 According to Getting It Right by Mary H. Slawson (page 145), the
 location should be entered thusly:

 name of the body of water, followed by name of the jurisdictions

 Rio Guadalquivir, Posadas, Andalucia, Espana

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 Legacy Family Tree



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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

[Ronald Bernier]

This is yet another example of why I will not use
FS. Overall, linking to FS seems to be
creating problems that far outweigh any benefits. I will stick with manually searching FS
and/or Ancestry. If any changes are made
or data added to my database, it will be by my choice only.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from iCloudOn Sep 13, 2013, at 08:55 AM, singhals singh...@erols.com wrote:I wouldn't be surprised to learn that FS changed the  last-modified date in one's desktop data. I know for a fact  that merely /looking/ at the details at FS creates a  change-record and stamps you as the maker of the last change.  Cheryl  Bob Janice wrote:Since it appears that my dates have changed also, I did a little bit ofplaying around tonight trying to pinpoint the problem. What made mecurious was the fact that some people said their dates did change whileothers said they didn't.I noticed that the last modified date would change if I logged intoFamily Search from within Legacy and simply looked at the possiblematches for an individual. I simply looked - didn't update any of theinformation either from or to Family Search.If someone else could take a look at this it MAY explain why somepeoples dates changed and others did not. Perhaps those that did hadaccessed Family Search and those that didn't did not access it. Just athought . . .
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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

[Ronald Bernier]

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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

[Ronald Bernier]

My lastmodified dates did not change either. In fact, I have not seen this so called "bug" "reported by many very unhappy people." I did see one person report to the list that all of his last modified dates were changed to the date that he downloaded the update. I then saw 1 or 2 other people who reported that they thought some of their last modified dates change but not all. Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from iCloudOn Sep 12, 2013, at 03:09 PM, R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:Mine did not change either. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:This bug was reported by many very unhappy people. Has anyone from Legacyresponded?Is there a fix? I know you can't restore to an earlier update, so back-upswould not correct this bug.Has this issue been resolved, or should we continue to avoid updating.CE
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Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

[Ronald Bernier]

I'm curious where CE as

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
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On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:09 PM, R G Strong-genes rgstrongge...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mine did not change either.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sherry/Support
 Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:43 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Last modified date reset on update

 I didn't have any problems with the dates changing.  All my dates are
 as they were before the last update.

 Not sure what happened so it's pretty hard to respond when we can't
 duplicate something.

 I don't know if anyone contacted Support directly to work with a tech
 on the issue..


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 11:35 AM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote:
 This bug was reported by many very unhappy people. Has anyone from Legacy
 responded?

 Is there a fix? I know you can't restore to an earlier update, so back-ups
 would not correct this bug.

 Has this issue been resolved, or should we continue to avoid updating.


 CE


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 P. S. Check out Legacy Family Tree today! This full featured genealogy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Event Definitions List

[Ronald Bernier]

Jenny,To answer your question, the event just before emmigration is education.Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
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Re: [LegacyUG] Same gender marriage???

[Ronald Bernier]

Cheryl,

What you understand is correct.  Legacy (Millennia) is a private company.  The 
owners' beliefs may determine the direction that the software takes, but 
contrary to Joshua's comment(s) the Church does not control the content of 
Legacy.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
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On Aug 17, 2013, at 9:29 AM, Cheryl Rothwell historysle...@gmail.com wrote:

 Clarify for me please. Joshua's comment implies the church controls Legacy. I 
 understand the people at Legacy (and some other gen software) are at least 
 predominately church members but I thought the software was independent and 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy on Microsoft Surface Pro

[Ronald Bernier]

Leon,
Legacy will not run on the Surface RT.  It should (I do not know positively) 
run on the Surface Pro.  Surface RT runs a tablet version of Windows 8.  
Surface Pro runs a full version of Windows 8.

Ron Bernier
Sent from my iPad

On Aug 15, 2013, at 5:35 AM, Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have worked with the Surface RT and taught a class on it.
 The Surface RT is an ARM based chip and it will NOT run normal Windows 
 programs.

 The Surface RT Windows 8 machine has and runs Windows 8.  The normal software 
 running on Windows 7 should run just fine on the Surface Windows 8 tablet.  I 
 am running Legacy on a normal desktop Windows 8 machine with no problems.  I 
 also run windows 8 on a MacBook Pro using Parallels with no problems.  You 
 will be fine with the Surface RT Windows 8 machine.  The new version of 
 Windows (v8.1) due out on October 17th should make Windows 8 easier to use 
 and less transitioning from Windows 7.

 Good luck.
 Chap



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 On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:57 AM, pieta.mck...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Hello,

 Is there anyone in the group who has installed and is using Legacy on a 
 Microsoft Surface Pro with Windows 8 – full version, NOT RT?

 I’m considering the purchase of this tablet/netbook but it is expensive and 
 I want to be quite sure I can happily install Legacy without having to use 
 the Families app.

 If someone can give me an opinion on this I would very much appreciate it.

 Many thanks,

 Pieta
 Western Australia


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Re: [LegacyUG] FamilySearch Problem

[Ronald Bernier]

All you have to do is open Legacy software, go to homepage, and check for 
update.  You will download the latest version.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
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On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:44 AM, Bernd Hornung ber@telus.net wrote:

 Jenny, very interesting.  I have only found one site that has the new
 build for download and it is not a Legacy site.

 Support - where is it and how do we get it?   RM is advertising on my
 Facebook that they are the only FamilyTree certified program.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and Migration Reports

[Ronald Bernier]

I really don't think I would want to read or try to follow any reports that 
reference locations by GPS coordinates only.  Also, I wouldn't have much regard 
for any person who couldn't be bothered recording locations by name(s) simply 
because those locations had changed over time.

Ron Bernier
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On Aug 8, 2013, at 12:45 PM, Duane Baker dbake...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Why not do away with place names altogether and use only GPS notification for 
 location?  A rose by any other name is still a rose.

 From: Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2013 11:03 AM
 Subject: Re: FW: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and 
 Migration Reports

 Since Legacy is an international program (I have seen that there are
 translations of the program), Legacy will definitely want to make sure
 that this feature has the correct information as far as countries,
 states, provinces, etc. goes - so that the feature is actually useful
 (groupings are correct) and because I know that the issue of countries
 engenders strong feelings based on history and, of course, Legacy will
 need to make provision for the changing political geography - past and
 present.


 Tessa Keough
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 Legacy Virtual Users' Group
 One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland



 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com wrote:
  Thanks, Boyd.  I really enjoyed that!
 
  On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 8:47 PM, Boyd Miller bo...@vodafone.net.nz wrote:
 
  Perhaps this will help explain the situation.
 
 
  http://explore.noodle.org/post/21512465875/because-one-must-know-the-difference-between-the
 
 
  On 7/08/2013 2:30 p.m., CE WOOD wrote:
 
  
  From: wood...@msn.com
  To: dew1...@yahoo.com
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and
  Migration Reports
  Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 19:25:41 -0700
 
 
  Â
 
  Great Britain is an island on which are three equal and sovereign
  countries of Scotland, Wales, and England. It is not a country, it is an
  island. Great Britain is the largest of the British Isles.
  Â
 
  Ireland is the second largest of the British Isles, on which are two
  separate countries, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
  Â
  The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland comprises 4 equal
  and sovereign countries: Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, and England.
  Â
 
  The Republic of Ireland, although located on one of the British Isles, is
  neither a part of Great Britain nor of the United Kingdom.
  Â
 
  CE
  Â
  
  Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 18:36:20 -0700
  From: dew1...@yahoo.com
  Subject: Re: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and
  Migration Reports
  To: wood...@msn.com
 
  I am curious, if not countries what are they?
  Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
 
  
  From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com;
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com;
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and
  Migration Reports
  Sent: Mon, Aug 5, 2013 11:26:15 PM
 
  Amen!  They certainly are not!Â
 
 
  CE
  Â
  
  Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 10:35:42 +1200
  From: shirleyr...@clear.net.nz
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and
  Migration Reports
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 
  Love this new feature. Congratulations!
  Â
  Their is just one observation. Great Britain and United Kingdom are not
  countries.
  Â
  Â
  Regards,
  Shirley
  New Zealand
  Â
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Geoff Rasmussen
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
  Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 4:57 AM
  Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Family Tree 8 Revealed - Origins and Migration
  Reports
 
  One of my favorite new features in the upcoming Legacy 8, described at
  http://tinyurl.com/ntk3amt
 
  Thanks,
  Â
  Geoff Rasmussen
  Millennia Corporation
  ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
  www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
 
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Version 8

[Ronald Bernier]

I have repeatedly said that the oft use support phrase "That would require a total rewrite" is Millennia's way of saying it isn't going to happen. After five plus years of hearing (reading) that response, I have come to the conclusion that the odds of me winning a multi million dollar lottery prize is much greater than ever seeing the proverbial "total rewrite".Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from iCloudOn Aug 06, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Bob byoabm8a4h...@wowway.com wrote:On 2013-08-06 10:02, Mike Fry wrote:Access (the db system underlying Legacy) doesn't seem to allow this.So that'san indication that version 8 hasn't changed anything in that area. What's reallywanted is a Multiple Document Interface system, but that would entail a totalrewrite. For the foreseeable future, you'll just have to put up with the SplitScreen feature :-) If five years wasn't long enough for the often-promised total rewrite,  we all know that it will NEVER happen and we will be stuck in pre-1995  computing standards forever.  Bob
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Re: [LegacyUG] Surety v sources

[Ronald Bernier]

Tessa,

I really wouldn't expect that Legacy is going to tip their hand as to what they 
will include in future versions.  We can see what happened when Legacy revealed 
that they were introducing problem alerts in V8.  A competitor jumped on the 
problem alert and rushed it out the door ahead of Millennia.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
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On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Tessa Keough murke...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have seen this before - we are happy to consider suggestions for
 new features. But I have also seen Legacy Users who state that they
 have sent in suggestions since 2006 that have never been addressed.

 Is there any system for knowing what others have suggested, where the
 suggestion is in the pipeline, and/or whether suggestions move up
 based on how often suggested or seconded, or if including suggestions
 in the program has little to do with Legacy Users' requests? Thanks
 for any insight.

 Tessa Keough
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Re: [LegacyUG] Apostrophe in Filenames

[Ronald Bernier]

Mary,
IMO = In My Opinion

Sent from my iPad

On Jul 23, 2013, at 10:51 AM, mary dillon 
dillon.m...@att.netmailto:dillon.m...@att.net wrote:

Good information, but please translate you acronym IMO.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 revealed - Shared Events and Automatic Sorting

[Ronald Bernier]

Hallelujah for the automatic sorting, but  HALLELUJAH for shared events 
(finally!!) and the ability to create roles.

Ron Bernier


From: Geoff Rasmussen [mailto:ge...@legacyusers.com]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 12:23 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy 8 revealed - Shared Events and Automatic Sorting

See 
http://news.legacyfamilytree.com/legacy_news/2013/07/legacy-family-tree-8-revealed-shared-events.html
 for the latest Legacy 8 Revealed article. This time about the upcoming 
Shared Events and Automatic Sorting of events/children/marriages. What do you 
think?

Thanks,

Geoff Rasmussen
Millennia Corporation
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[LegacyUG] Legacy 8.0 - Geo Database(s)

[Ronald Bernier]

Will Legacy 8.0 provide a new Geo Database or will Millennia continue to rely 
on the current product?  I'm hoping that the answer is going to be a new geo 
locator.

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Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

[Ronald Bernier]

But it does seem to be a huge deal to you.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2013, at 10:13 PM, Pat Hickin 
pph...@gmail.commailto:pph...@gmail.com wrote:

Shingals wrote We none of us can ever *absolutely prove* any fact.  What
makes this one require special treatment?

I realize that most facts are not absolutely 100% provable, but we all know 
that zillions of people have had children out of wedlock. That men may not 
necessarily even know whether they've produced offspring.

I just think there should be a way to say (on the individual screen) that an 
individual never married without also  having to make a statement about 
offspring.

That's all I'm asking for.   To me it seems utterly reasonable.   It really 
does not seem such a big deal to me!

Pat




On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Jenny M Benson 
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On 24/06/2013 23:07, Don Hendershot wrote:
 omg! Please stop!

The subject may not be of interest to some of us, but it *is* on topic
for this mailing list and obviously is of interest to *some*.  I don't
think any of us have a right to ask others not to discuss something
which falls within the remit of the list and is not offensive.

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] marriages (misspellings)

[Ronald Bernier]

The length of time that this subject has continued is ridiculous.  Now we have 
the spelling/grammar experts jumping in to correct people

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On Jun 23, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Bob Bashford older...@rochester.rr.com wrote:


 My favorite is an amazed Viola!



 On 6/23/2013 1:43 PM, Ron Walter wrote:
 Seeing ad nauseam mizspelt may make some people want to throw up.

 Why does this thread continue ad mausium?  Please exchange E-Mails and take 
 it off-line!  It was already old last week.





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RE: [LegacyUG] marriages

[Ronald Bernier]

Pat, with all due respect – Legacy isn’t forcing you or anyone else to do 
anything.  If you are not happy with the way that Legacy works for you, then 
maybe Legacy isn’t the program for you.

Ron Bernier

From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:28 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

Amen!!  It seems ridiculous to me that Legacy almost forces us to state as fact 
something that we can not possiby know!!

Pat

On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Tony Rolfe 
geneal...@gillandtony.commailto:geneal...@gillandtony.com wrote:
Can we go back to the original request and forget about all the
extraneous waffle which has appeared on this subject.  Just because
Legacy must create a marriage record whenever a child is added to a
parent, it doesn't mean that a real-world marriage actually occurred.

It is frequently easy to tell that a person never married.  It is
usually impossible to state with any certainty that someone had no children.

Can we please split the This person never married and had no children
fact into two separate facts?

Thanks


Tony



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RE: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8--adopted child

[Ronald Bernier]

The problem is, some people get hung up on terminology.  They accuse the 
programmers of being unnecessarily rigid, when in fact it is the individual who 
is rigid.  The person has a set definition of marriage in mind and can't let 
his/her mind waiver from that definition.  Unfortunately, folks purchase a 
software package, and then they think because they purchased a license (they 
didn't purchase the rights to the software), developers are obligated to 
customize the software to the individuals wants and desires..  Often times 
these requests are made with no concern as to what is involved to accede to the 
request, not any concern/regard how the request will affect others who also 
purchased a license for the software.

-Original Message-
From: donel...@juno.com [mailto:donel...@juno.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 3:06 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8--adopted child

Since I grew up (I am an old guy now) the legal and accepted definitions of 
parent and marriage/partnering (and many other terms) have changed drastically 
and they continue to do so almost every day.  It even depends what state one 
lives in.  How can a computer program be expected to keep up with or anticipate 
all the changes and individual interpretations of these definitions?  Note that 
I have only addressed the status in the US and have deliberately ignored the 
complexity of adding in the rest of the world.

Don



From: Pat Hickin pph...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8--adopted child
Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:29:28 -0400

Malcolm wrote: Â It is a fact that Legacy creates a marriage whenever a 
child is added to a single person.

I don't have the following problem but I do know this situation exists in real 
life:

What happens when you add an adopted child to a single parent?? Â I just now 
tried, and Legacy Immediately removed the Never married and had no children 
and whited out the option on the individual screen. Â  It also added an 
unknown spouse! Â

Surely this should not be!  If ever you need to be able to say 1) never 
married and even 2) had no children it would be in that situation!!

Legacy, it seems to me, is sometimes rigid when there is no good reason for it.


On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Ron Taylor doit4...@yahoo.com wrote:

Assume that ! means DSP for individuals with no marriage records. Â Perhaps 
if an individual is linked to marriage records and all of the marriage records 
have the had no children box checked, then the double S symbol might be 
displayed with the ! after it to similarly indicate end-of-line.
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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

[Ronald Bernier]

Mary, this is not directed specially at you.  There hasn't been a major 
upgrade to Legacy for 5 years.  Now that we know Legacy 8 is on the horizon, 
folks are coming out of the woodwork with their wants and desires for Legacy 8. 
 I truly hope that if Millennia takes any of these wish list items under 
consideration that they are added to a later update.  I would truly hate to see 
any of these wish list items be a cause for delaying the release of Legacy 8.

Ron Bernier
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On Jun 18, 2013, at 9:22 AM, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote:

 YES YES YES - and not especially for men!  It's needed for women who never 
 married and had known illegitimate children
 Mary Young



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Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

[Ronald Bernier]

Just curious - how is Millennia confusing newbies?  Maybe Millennia could take 
a cue from Heredis and call the term to partner.  Of course, this would satisfy 
some and have others up in arms.

The only other option is for those who are not happy with the program to 
consider writing their own program.  Then, they could have the exact 
terminology they want and not try to force a change for those who are satisfied 
with the status quo.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 18, 2013, at 11:25 AM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2013/06/18 16:33, Sherry/Support wrote:

 It's incorrect to separate never married and had no children

 When a person has a child, a relationship is established with another person 
 - a
 marriage is created whether or not the couple was actually married. It 
 takes
 two to make a child (even if one of them is an anonymous sperm donor!) and 
 both
 parents need to be shown.

 On the marriage screen, you can indicate that the couple never married and 
 set
 the Status to Unmarried or another choice.

 But there must be a relationship with another person to create a child.

 Therefore it would be incorrect to say this person never married if there 
 was
 a child because a relationship has to be established in Legacy to create that
 child.

 There is no 100% certain way to know if a person never had any children 
 unless
 he or she died before puberty I'm sure all of us have at least one 
 hidden
 marriage or child that was never acknowledged

 Ain't English a funny language :-) Methinks it's time for Millennium to sort
 their terminology out and stop confusing newbies.

 --
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RE: [LegacyUG] V8 preview

[Ronald Bernier]

Geoff has said that further views and details of Legacy V8 will be posted on 
the Legacy News Blog in weeks to come.  There really is no need to keep using 
the FAITHFUL users of Legacy mantra to attempt to browbeat Geoff or someone 
else at Legacy to post updates to this list.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

-Original Message-
From: Michele Lewis [mailto:ancestor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 9:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] V8 preview

Now that the word is out maybe Geoff or someone else at Legacy will post the 
updates to this list to the FAITHFUL users of Legacy.

Michele


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From: Virginia Blakelock [mailto:vblakel...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 8:37 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] V8 preview

See the Genea-Musings blog / SCGS Genealogy Jamboree - Day Two for some v8 
preview details:

http://www.geneamusings.com/2013/06/scgs-genealogy-jamboree-day-three.html

Virginia


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RE: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar

[Ronald Bernier]

Don,

Legacy 7.0 was released on May 1, 2008.  Legacy 7.5 was released on January 30, 
2010.  I respectfully disagree that Legacy 7.5 was a major update.  The biggest 
item added to Legacy 7.5 was the ability to connect to New Family Search.  It 
was more than a year after the release of 7.5 that some users were able to 
start connecting to New Family Search.  Granted, this issue was not something 
that Legacy had any control over, however, connecting to New Family Search is 
the primary reason that Millennia touted 7.5 as a “major update” when in fact 
it was anything but a major update.  Yes, Legacy has had interim updates – 
mostly to fix bugs, and they have added some new features, but then there isn’t 
a software in existence that doesn’t release interim bug fixes and minor new 
features during the lifespan of a version.

Bottom line, version 8 will be released when it is released – nevertheless, I 
think the folks at Legacy have lost a lot of ground due to the fact that it has 
been 5+ years since they have released a major version upgrade – unfortunately, 
Legacy has become very stale.  The one screenshot that was briefly shown 
yesterday doesn’t give me a lot of hope and/or confidence that Legacy 8 is 
going to gain any of the ground that they have lost.

From: donvarn...@gmail.com [mailto:donvarn...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 4:44 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar

I totally agree with Ward.  I well remember the clamor over the hurried 
introduction of 7.5.  There were several major bugs to contend with and it took 
what seemed like months to get the major issues ironed out.  In fact the LUG 
was a total disaster during the several weeks.  Actually 7.5 was a fairly major 
update to 7.0 and I don't think it's been 5+ years since that came out.

At the current time the only major benefit (that I can see) of RM over Legacy 
is the ability to sync with Family Search Family Tree.  Legacy would sync with 
New Family Search but that is going away at the end of the month.  I'm not sure 
where Legacy stands with FS Family Tree but that is a huge win for RM, 
especially if the user is LDS.  I believe that is what Arlene is referring to.

Certainly any new major release will include new bugs and will not be stable 
for awhile.  That is a fact of life working with software.  It doesn't matter 
if it's Millennia, Microsoft, Roots Magic or who.
Sent from Alto - altomail.com



From: 
wnkwal...@rogers.comwnkwal...@rogers.commailto:wnkwal...@rogers.com%3cwnkwal...@rogers.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar
I think you are being a bit hard on Millennia. I have rarely used a product 
with such frequent updates for fixes and small enhancements, and such 
responsive and involved (LUG) customer support. Yes, we each have some pet 
issues that have not been addressed, but this is normal for a complex software 
product. (I have been on the other end of this process – there are never enough 
resources to deal with all the bugs and enhancement requests.)
I did not watch the webinar and I have no particular expectation for Legacy 8. 
In fact, I would prefer to see more refinements to Legacy 7 than have to deal 
with any sweeping changes. (And we have to pay for major releases.)
What is so special about RM or other competing products that suggests that 
Legacy has fallen behind? Even if a competing product has a particular feature 
that Legacy lacks, wouldn’t that product still have a typical list of defects 
and shortcomings as well? Will Legacy 8 leapfrog the competition in terms of 
features, and still be stable and not introduce any new defects?
Ward
From: Ronald Berniermailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 9:24 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar
Arlene,
It has been roughly 5 years since Legacy 7 was released. I don’t want to see 
Legacy 8 released before it is time, but frankly I think it is ridiculous that 
it has taken 5+ years between major releases. With Legacy’s track record, I 
wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it is the end of the year before Legacy 
8 is released. Quite frankly, I was totally disappointed with the “preview” 
that was shown today. It was not worth the time or effort to briefly show a 
screen shot that was not all that clear to begin with. Based on Geoff’s email 
to the list, I thought there would be more of a mini preview than one very 
brief screenshot.
Ron Bernier
From: Arlene [mailto:alv...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar
I am disappointed that it may take as long as 'by the end of the 

RE: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar

[Ronald Bernier]

Arlene,

It has been roughly 5 years since Legacy 7 was released.  I don’t want to see 
Legacy 8 released before it is time, but frankly I think it is ridiculous that 
it has taken 5+ years between major releases.  With Legacy’s track record, I 
wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if it is the end of the year before Legacy 
8 is released.  Quite frankly, I was totally disappointed with the “preview” 
that was shown today.  It was not worth the time or effort to briefly show a 
screen shot that was not all that clear to begin with.  Based on Geoff’s email 
to the list, I thought there would be more of a mini preview than one very 
brief screenshot.

Ron Bernier

From: Arlene [mailto:alv...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2013 8:48 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surprise during today's webinar

I am disappointed that it may take as long as 'by the end of the year'.  I have 
had to stop giving lesson at our center Legacy.  I have loved this program and 
have been loyal for many many years - however, I may have to go to RM so I have 
a program that is worth its salt to encourage our patrons to use.  Hopefully, 
Geoff will not keep us in the dark as to its release.  Arlene in Utah




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RE: [LegacyUG] Event date sorting

[Ronald Bernier]

If Legacy provided for sort dates, you could “force” military service to sort 
after draft registration by using a date one day later.  Since Legacy does not 
provide this option, your only real choice is to use a Bet date which starts 
one day after the actual date.  I agree with you, it does make sense that a 
date range should sort after a definite date.

Ron Bernier,
Woonsocket, RI

From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:1familytree@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Event date sorting

I am wondering how I can get Legacy to sort an event with a date of 05 June 
1917 (a Military Draft Registration record) before an event for Military 
Service which is Bet 05 Jun 1917 and 09 May 1919.
You would think the logic for between would always be 'after' a standard date?
I know I can hard code the order, but I really prefer not to, as I am 
constantly adding.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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Re: [LegacyUG] New to Adobe Photoshop elements

[Ronald Bernier]

This is like a question you should be asking the Photoshop Elements support or 
forums.  This is a Legacy user group list for help on using Legacy Family Tree, 
not how to use Photoshop Elements.

Ron Bernier
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On May 23, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Deanna Weymuth 
dew1...@yahoo.commailto:dew1...@yahoo.com wrote:

I am new to this. I have used simple photo programs for years, but elements is 
very new to me. I am working with the tutorials, but they all seem to be much 
more advanced than I am ready for. I have imported many of my pictures. The 
program felt over half were duplicates. While I know there are some duplicates, 
considering how many soccer pictures I have, I understand that. I am deleting 
nothing from basic files.

I would like to have albums so I put all soccer pictures in one place, all my 
daughters pictures in another, etc.

After watching some of the tutorial I thought it would be fun to start putting 
names to people. I have some preschool pictures of my daughters and it does not 
recognize them as faces. Also ones of my mother that are about 35 years old. A 
few pictures of the girls have been recognized, but a number more have not.

Any suggestions for basic tutorials or just Help.
Thank you
Deanna







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RE: [LegacyUG] bopping between the Free and the Deluxe?

[Ronald Bernier]

Cheryl,

I have no doubt that you wouldn't be able to find help on odd little number - 
that is your odd terminology.  Just like the little symbol that you referred to 
as the GPS indicator - has nothing at all to do with GPS.  You would really 
being doing yourself a big favor if you took time to look through the help 
files.  You would also be doing other list member a favor because it would be 
much easier to understand what you are asking for help about, rather than 
trying to translate what you are referring to.

-Original Message-
From: singhals [mailto:singh...@erols.com]
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 10:46 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bopping between the Free and the Deluxe?

Mike Fry wrote:
 On 2013/05/17 02:17, singhals wrote:

 On the deluxe version, at the FHC, I get a tiny little number to the
 right of the  blue-green ball for GPS for each date I enter.  They're
 mildly annoying.  I can't say I see them at home on the free
 version--if I do they're less obvious and not as distracting.

 What's that number called, why is it there, and can I use it for
 anything?

From the Help for Information Screen (towards the very end)

 Age Information

 Along the right side of the Information screen, at the end of the
 Born, Chr, Died, and Buried lines, age numbers are displayed.  The
 number for the Born field is the number of years ago the person was
 born.  The other values represent the age at which the event occurred.
 (If the Born age bothers you, you can turn it off by right-clicking on
 it.  To turn it back on, right-click
 again.)

Thanks, Mike.  The problem I have in digital help files is, until I know what 
the author is calling (odd little number), finding info on (odd little number) 
is, oh let's call it tricky.

Cheryl




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Re: [LegacyUG] Update?

[Ronald Bernier]

Brian L,
The update from 7.4 to 7.5 was on January 17, 2011.

Ron Bernier
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On Feb 18, 2013, at 6:39 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:

 V7.5 was an update to v7.0 or v7.4

 An upgrade happens with the first number of the version number
 changes. There's also a charge for the upgrade, but never for an
 update.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:28 PM, Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk wrote:
 On 18/02/2013 22:44, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
 And I thought that v7.5 was the update, with 7.4 being the older version.

 I think you're confusing update with upgrade.

 --
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RE: [LegacyUG] Getting User Group emails

[Ronald Bernier]

Eric,

You are able to post to this list, thus, you are subscribed.  If you are not 
receiving list emails (a common problem with the Legacy list(s)) you will need 
to send an email to Legacy Support and request that they manually subscribe 
you.  For some reason known only to the Legacy folks, they either cannot or 
will not correct this issue.

(Eric has been copied on this message)

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

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Subject: [LegacyUG] Getting User Group emails

What is the 'correct' way to subcribe to this User Group please.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Upgrade my LFT5.0, and/or purchase Genelines

[Ronald Bernier]

Soon is Millennia's code word for (hopefully) eventually.  Maybe they will 
release another interim major update.  That will fool folks into thinking 
that some major innovations have been added, and will buy them some time while 
they try to work out the issues they are having.

Of course, three years (it's already been 2 years) between major releases for 
any software is a lifetime.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, Ri
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On Jan 4, 2013, at 11:24 AM, Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:

 Sherry,

 Please not a Legacy soon :-). For the benefit of those who do not remember 
 the launch of Legacy 7.0 soon is around 1 - 1.5 years!
 ---
 Ron Ferguson
 http://www.fergys.co.uk/
 GOONS #5307

 Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:

 Soon is the official word g. Other than that, we haven't a clue!
 It hasn't even gone to beta testing yet.


 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


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RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy training video

[Ronald Bernier]

MJ SA,

Based on Geoff's comment recently (I'm paraphrasing as I don't recall the exact 
words) The developers are tring to work out an issue that is giving them 
problems, I wouldn't expect the release of version 8 anytime in the near 
future.

When version 7 was released, there was supposed to be a built in option to 
convert sources from basic source to sourcewriter.  After months and months of 
assuring users that this option would be released soon it was eventually just 
dropped.   There never was an honest admission from the folks at Legacy that 
they had bitten off more than they could chew and were not able to provide a 
function that they had promised.

It sounds like the programmers have encountered a similar situation with 
version 8, but this time they are going to try to work the issue out before 
releasing the software and/or promising a function that they can't deliver.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI


-Original Message-
From: MJ SA [mailto:michs...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2012 1:55 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy training video

good to know, how long do beta testers get Legacy before it is sold to the 
public?

On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com 
wrote:
 We have no idea when Legacy v8 will be released. I remember last year
 (2011), when it was announced Soon.  So I wouldn't suggest waiting
 if you need the help now.

 v8 hasn't even been released to the beta testers yet.

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree


 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:42 AM, MJ SA michs...@gmail.com wrote:
 My sources to not buy until Version 8 comes out? Someone on this
 email thread a month or so ago.




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Re: [LegacyUG] Webinar_ Irish Ancestors

[Ronald Bernier]

I'm curious has anybody had the courtesy to ask Legacy/Geoff directly about the 
handouts?  Maybe it's just easier to have a mob action to slam Milennia on a 
public forum.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Wes wes...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 06-Dec-2012 12:42 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
 You and several thousand other participants have now learned that Millennia 
 and Judy Wight have managed to redefine the word handout to mean available 
 for purchase instead of its historical meaning, i.e. freely given. The next 
 real seminar that I attend in person, I think I'll interrupt the speaker and 
 ask How much are these free handouts here at the back of the room?

 Why or why did they did just not say that the additional information was 
 available on the CD which is available for purchase? Then there would have 
 been no questions.

 Brian in CA
 (PS - Just like you, I followed the link during the live webinar for the 
 handouts and found myself on the Millennia web page where one could buy 
 the CD. I looked all over for the small print about obtaining the handouts 
 then it occurred to me. They were free but only if you paid for them.)

 snip
 I, too, am irked by the fact that the handouts are no longer included
 with the webinar.  They used to be, but I guess Millenia caught the
 greed bug just like wallstreet.

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RE: [LegacyUG] Webinar_ Irish Ancestors

[Ronald Bernier]

 the product and comment at the forum, the user 
groups that meet in person or on the web (Legacy Virtual Users' Group monthly 
hangouts - live and recorded at Google+ that discuss using Legacy), Legacy 
users who write extensively at their blogs (JL Beeken comes to mind with some 
great blog posts) - just Google it and you will find all kinds of free learning.

(8) Finally I am thankful that the folks who work at Legacy seem very concerned 
that we get our questions answered timely and (usually) with good cheer. 
Whenever I have had the need or opportunity to engage with them - in emails, 
telephone calls, or at vendor halls - I have come away very impressed.  I know 
from my work with the Guild of One-Name Studies that working with a far-flung 
membership is not easy and working with a product that is used in a variety of 
ways by people with a variety of tech skill levels is challenging.  I have 
found both Legacy and the Guild do it with good grace.

Simply put - there are many companies out there that want our dollars and we 
have to make decisions how we spend our genealogy budgets. I certainly feel I 
get more than my money's worth from Legacy and I think if we all give it some 
thought, we would agree.

Geoff you might want to refer to the handouts that seem to have made some 
webinar viewers testy as a CD extra - whether that is copy of the slides with 
speaker notes, a reading list, an outline, or a worksheet.
Since I don't know what the presenter includes (and I am guessing it depends 
upon the presenter) it is hard to call it one thing. Another thought is that if 
a presenter wants to provide a short synopsis or outline of what they are 
presenting to all attendees at a webinar, to truly be a handout it could be 
provided free during the webinar.

Just my two cents worth - happy we can have this discussion and share our 
thoughts.

Tessa Keough
Guild of One-Name Studies, No. 5089
Legacy Virtual Users' Group
One Place Studies - Plate Cove, Newfoundland




On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Geoff Rasmussen ge...@legacyusers.com
wrote:

 Interesting discussion everyonethere have only been a small
 handful of webinars where we have given away the handouts for free.
 Nearly all webinars include the handouts on the CD only. This decision
 allows us to partially pay for the costs (not inexpensive) of
 marketing, hosting, and producing each webinar and permitting them to
 be viewed for free. Your discussion has caused me to rethink the term
 handouts - I guess the term implies that they are free, so many we
 need to come up with a better term. If you have any good suggestions, please 
 email me at ge...@legacyfamilytree.com.

 Thanks,

 Geoff Rasmussen
 Millennia Corporation
 ge...@legacyfamilytree.com
 www.LegacyFamilyTree.com



 On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Ronald Bernier
 ronaldbern...@bernfrin.org wrote:

 I'm curious has anybody had the courtesy to ask Legacy/Geoff directly
 about the handouts?  Maybe it's just easier to have a mob action to
 slam Milennia on a public forum.

 Ron Bernier
 Woonsocket, RI
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 6, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Wes wes...@gmail.com wrote:

  On 06-Dec-2012 12:42 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot wrote:
  You and several thousand other participants have now learned that
  Millennia and Judy Wight have managed to redefine the word
  handout to mean available for purchase instead of its historical 
  meaning, i.e. freely given.
  The next real seminar that I attend in person, I think I'll
  interrupt the speaker and ask How much are these free handouts
  here at the back of the room?
 
  Why or why did they did just not say that the additional
  information was available on the CD which is available for
  purchase? Then there would have been no questions.
 
  Brian in CA
  (PS - Just like you, I followed the link during the live webinar
  for the handouts and found myself on the Millennia web page
  where one could buy the CD. I looked all over for the small print
  about obtaining the handouts then it occurred to me. They were
  free but only if you paid for
  them.)
 
  snip
  I, too, am irked by the fact that the handouts are no longer
  included with the webinar.  They used to be, but I guess Millenia
  caught the greed bug just like wallstreet.
 
  Wes

 
 
 
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RE: [LegacyUG] How do I enter grandchild when parents unknown

[Ronald Bernier]

Not necessarily true.  I have a case where a child was listed as a 
granddaughter.  There is no last name listed for this granddaughter.  I would 
not even begin to presume that the granddaughter's last name is the same as 
the grandfather who is lasted as the head of household.  There are five sons 
and four daughters listed in the family.  All five sons are listed as single.  
Three of the daughters are listed as single.  One of the daughters is listed as 
married.  It would seem that the granddaughter is the daughter of the head of 
household's married daughter.  This would lead me to conclude that the 
granddaughter's last name is not Vetor (the head of household's last name) even 
though the census taker did not indicate what her last name is.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
From: Pat Hickin [mailto:pph...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:02 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I enter grandchild when parents unknown

Well, ordinarily the census-taker would write in the last name if it was 
different from that of the head of household.

It's possible, of course, and a warning to that effect could be included
in the note.

Pat

On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 11:49 AM, Mike Fry 
emjay...@gmail.commailto:emjay...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2012/11/27 18:20, Pat Hickin wrote:

 I'm a bit slow replying!  Are you saying you don't know his last name?  Then 
 it
 must be (or was probably)  the same as the grandfather.
Not necessarily. His mother could be the daughter of the grandfather.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg (g)



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RE: [LegacyUG] Future updates

[Ronald Bernier]

Ron,

With all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are some of 
us who are interested in learning if a new release is imminent, or if there are 
new improvements on the horizon.  If you are not interested in this 
information, that is all well and good, just delete any related emails.  You 
keep saying the release of version 7 was a problem - again, many of us disagree 
with your assessment.  I mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a 
question along this line, you send the exact same response word for word.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 7:49 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates

Rich,

In my opinion quite correctly, Legacy never gives advanced notice of 
improvements, and after the problems of the launch of V7 I hope that they will 
never, ever, give even a hint of a date.
---
Ron Ferguson
http://www.fergys.co.uk
GOONS #5307

Rich Falzini rfalz...@yahoo.com wrote:

I want to ask if anyone knows of any up dates or improvements that will be 
coming in the near future in regards to the website creation feature on legacy?

Thanks
Rich in Cleveland

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RE: [LegacyUG] Future updates

[Ronald Bernier]

Mike,

I'll take a look at Legacy 8 if and when it is released, but I have already 
started the migration of my data to a program which I feel is/has outpaced 
Legacy's innovations (which have become very stale).

I'll give Legacy points for their reports, but Legacy's GUI is definitely 
outdated.   Legacy hasn't really offered any innovative ideas for quite some 
time.  They touted version 7.5 as if it was a great improvement/upgrade - 
basically 7.5 added Family Search capabilities which some folks are/were 
interested in, but many are not.  Of course (through no fault of Legacy's) most 
folks haven't even been able to make use of the Family Search capabilities 
until very recently.

If you look at the various software reviews/comparisons, you will notice that 
Legacy still has a good rating, but they have definitely lost ground.

Bottom line, no need for me to develop patience for an eventual upgrade that I 
really don't expect to offer any substantial enhancements/innovative ideas.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI

-Original Message-
From: Mike Fry [mailto:emjay...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 9:15 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Future updates

On 2012/11/21 14:59, Ronald Bernier wrote:

 with all due respect, you are entitled to your opinion, but there are
 some of us who are interested in learning if a new release is
 imminent, or if there are new improvements on the horizon.  If you are
 not interested in this information, that is all well and good, just
 delete any related emails.  You keep saying the release of version 7
 was a problem - again, many of us disagree with your assessment.  I
 mean no disrepect, but everytime someone asks a question along this
 line, you send the exact same response word for word.

I beg to differ. The release of version 7 was a shambles. Millennia made the 
mistake of raising expectations and then couldn't deliver on the several dates 
that they proposed. This led to a furore within this group, with a lot of 
people just asking When, When, When and displaying a lack of patience 
because of their raised expectations.

The correct way of handling future releases, and Millennia is not Apple or 
Microsoft, is not to make sound until there's something concrete in the 
pipeline. And even then, the announcement should only mention a date that can 
be met with 100% certainty.

Until then... you'll just have to develop some patience.

--
Regards,
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Re: [LegacyUG] Email with Symbols

[Ronald Bernier]

My mail reader is definitely not web based but I get emails with these weird 
symbols also.  I assure you my mail reader is not stuck in the past, so that 
doesn't seem to be the definitive answer.

Ron Bernier
Sent from my iPad

On Oct 27, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Mike Fry emjay...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 2012/10/27 22:14, RHS Consulting wrote:

 Can someone please explain to me where these repetitive [[[ Aca,~A ]]] 
 symbols
 of the received mail come from?  Some of my received Legacy forum mails are
 totally clean, while others show numerous similar symbols like the one 
 above.  I
 have highlighted the symbols in brackets.

 The 'offending' emails are probably encoded using UTF8. Your mail reader
 (probably web based) can't handle this encoding and is probably stuck in the
 past with ANSI :-)

 --
 Regards,
 Mike Fry
 Johannesburg (g)








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Re: [LegacyUG] FGS Report

[Ronald Bernier]

Lavern,
I'm curious why you are putting @ in front of names you are responding to.  
This is a user group list, not Twitter.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI
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On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:52 AM, Lavern Hall lavernh...@gmail.com wrote:

 @ Daphne, What does write a macro mean?

 @ Leon: From reading your post, it sounds like your books follow the 
 Decendant book format. Have you found this format to have any advantages over 
 the Ancestor's book format? It may be a matter of preference, but there must 
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Re: [LegacyUG] FGS Report

[Ronald Bernier]

Lavern,
I'm curious as to why you are prefacing names you are responding to with @?  
This is a user group email list, not Twitter.

Ron Bernier
Woonsocker, RI
Sent from my iPad

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 @ Daphne, What does write a macro mean?

 @ Leon: From reading your post, it sounds like your books follow the 
 Decendant book format. Have you found this format to have any advantages over 
 the Ancestor's book format? It may be a matter of preference, but there must 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Does the size of screen annoy you while using Families for Legacy app?

[Ronald Bernier]

Not sure how you could even remotely think that note taking software would be 
considered a Legacy add-on.  I would think it is pretty obvious what is a 
legitimate add on and what is a stretch of imagination.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 16, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Evert van Dijken evandij...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 
 Maybe we need some more details on what is an add-on for Legacy?

 This is from Legacy News (Apr 11th 2012):

 Genealogy on the Go: the Families App for Legacy - free webinar now online

 If you are considering going mobile with your genealogy, Legacy Family Tree 
 has the perfect solution. The Families App lets you take your Legacy data, 
 pictures, sources, To Do List and more with you on your iPhone, iPod Touch, 
 iPad, or Android phone or tablet (which also includes the Kindle Fire, Nook, 
 etc.). In today's webinar, presented by the Families developer, Malcolm Green 
 gave a demonstration of using the app and provided step-by-step instructions 
 for getting it all set up. He also showed how to synchronize your Legacy 
 family file with your mobile device.

 Evert

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: Sherry/Support [mailto:she...@legacyfamilytree.com]
 Verzonden: maandag 16 april 2012 16:52
 Aan: LegacyUserGroup@legacyusers.com
 Onderwerp: Re: [LegacyUG] Does the size of screen annoy you while using 
 Families for Legacy app?

 OFF TOPIC - PLEASE Let's stay on the topic of Legacy and Legacy Add-Ons.

 Thanks,

 Sincerely,
 Sherry
 Technical Support
 Legacy Family Tree



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RE: [LegacyUG] Webinars on iPad?

[Ronald Bernier]

Kristen,

Unfortunately there is no work around. Adobe flash player is the one thing I 
miss having on my iPad2

Regards,
Ron Bernier
Woonsocket, RI



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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 6:04 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Webinars on iPad?

I’d like to watch some of the Legacy webinars on my iPad1 but can’t because 
viewing the webinars requires Adobe Flash Player and the iPad doesn’t support 
it.  Is there some workaround for this?

Kirsten


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