Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Yvonne Morehouse
Alan:  I have no idea what was going on...was very surprised to see
that, myself.

Yvonne

On 1/4/2011 7:53 PM, Alan Eade wrote:
 Hello Yvonne

 To what does  refer, in your email

 regards Alan





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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread William Boswell
Typically I don’t use other people’s trees at all except for maybe a lead.  I 
never merge trees with my information either.  I know about the LDS trees being 
suspect, but many on Ancestry.com are as well.  I’ve found my well-documented 
ancestors on trees where they don’t belong.  The only thing I’m finding on the 
LDS site are actually documents, but since not all of the images are available 
I have to use their transcribed text.



I’ve never heard of Footnote.com before.  I use Ancestry.com occasionally 
because they don’t have enough records for the DC and Maryland areas.  This is 
where they seem to be lacking and have been for years.



I’m going into my second year of cleaning up my Legacy data after exporting 
from another program.  While doing this I’m finding missing records and sources 
for people I haven’t done anything with in many years.  Sometimes it’s a good 
idea to check over old entries and see what needs fixing.  That’s the only 
reason why I recently subscribed to Ancestry to get the missing records that I 
can’t find elsewhere.



From: geoffbr...@juno.com [mailto:geoffbr...@juno.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 11:05 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com



Bill,

I found worldvitalrecords.com helpful, particularly in finding references in 
books.  Footnote.com was great for Census records and Civil War and 
Revolutionary War records.

The LDS website is fantastic, but it is buyer beware.  I say this as a lot 
has not been properly documented.  All you need is one direct ancestor mistake 
to lead you astray for generations.

Trust but verify.  Wear out the LDS site to get names and dates and then use an 
on-line subscription to back it up with documentation.  My experience is that 
both these sites, worldvitalrecords and footnote, will give you a seven day 
trial run.  Schedule a week of vacation, kiss your wife goodbye, stay hydrated 
and wear out your seven day trial.

Good luck!


-- Original Message --
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:43:36 -0800 (PST)

Some libraries and local LDS may belong to some of these databases. Then you 
can use their 'free' connection, to determine if there is enough to use at 
their place, or order for at home. Each DB (Ancestry, World, NFS, etc) is 
growing and adding new records daily. What you need to do is decide what you 
want to find, then locate who has it (if anyone).
Do not belittle the 'special'. For instance, there is a company that offers 
Swedish records, that is over my budget, but I try to get a two week or month 
'pass' one a year. You might want to get the WVR month, but what I have found. 
You can somtimes pick the date range at paying, and aim it at your vacation.
You may find something that destroys your biggest brick wall.
Remember to unsubsc-ribe the next day, so no second month, or you may find so 
much to keep it.
Happy Hunting
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 2:36 PM
 I got an email the other day from
 them, but there doesn't seem to be any way to find out what
 records they have in their collection.  They've got
 some crummy special going on--one month access for $12.95
 (expires Jan 7, 2011), but I didn't think it was all that
 special if they don't give us a clue as to what they have.

 I believe FamilyLink.com owns WorldVitalRecords now.Â
 In keeping with their tradition of not disclosing their
 content, I guess they aren't willing to tell us what WVR has
 either.

 I'm finding so much information at the LDS website than
 I've found anywhere else in years.  I wouldn't
 subscribe to anything sight unseen especially if they don't
 offer a test drive.

 Bill Boswell

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Cook [mailto:docoo...@msn.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:44 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

 I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking
 here because I
 value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

 Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
 Are you finding it useful?
 How do you rate it against others (for example,
 Ancestry.com)?

 Thanx for your patience,
 Don




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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread William Boswell
I clicked from their email and it took me to a page to subscribe.  Nowhere on 
that page could I find a link that would take me back to either their home page 
or a list of their holdings.

-Original Message-
From: Ron Bernier [mailto:ronaldbern...@bernfrin.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:39 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

Bill,

Have you tried going to the World Vital Records home page.  A listing of what 
they have is right on the home page in plain sight.  Not hidden at all.

-Original Message-
From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:22 PM
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Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

I forgot about Godfrey Memorial Library.  I used to belong to them several 
years ago, but when they lost access to a lot of databases due to ProQuest 
raising their rates they had to be dropped.  What they were left with after 
that was very little and not worth the subscription so I dropped it.

It sounds like it might be worth checking out again.  They used to have a 
database that was excellent at tracking people (living or dead) from one 
location to many others.  Then unfortunately it was pulled and only accessible 
by law enforcement.  I was able to track a lot of people and figure out how 
they were related or if they were related.  They have something else available 
now (free through libraries), but it isn't quite as good as the other one.

Another thing to check out is what your local library has that is accessible 
from home.  Many of them have newspapers as well and even some obscure ones 
that are very old.

On the WVR site, I've never been able to find a listing of what they have.  It 
must be well hidden.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: Kay Fordham [mailto:kayhawo...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

Yvonne,

I have searched for hours on WVR and have not been limited in any way on 
newspapers or other records. The newspapers at WVR are from Newspaper.Archives 
that you mention. I also forgot to mention that WVR also has family histories 
from the Godfrey Memorial Library Collection (this is a subscription site!). It 
took me quite awhile to discover all of the records on this site. The $59.XX is 
well worth it for my needs.

Again, it depends upon what your are looking for and where.

Kay

- Original Message -
From: Yvonne Morehouse y.moreho...@comcast.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


Yes, I did subscribe about a month ago.  I found that 99.5% of the
records that were useful to me were the newspapers.

However, what was not told to subscribers is you could only look for 10
surnames--you learn about this restriction after you've been in the site
for a little while.  At some point, you are asked to identify 10
surnames and are locked into those 10.  (They didn't explain why you had
to pick 10 surnames so I locked myself into surnames that weren't that
important to me.)  Once the surname lock happens you can't search the
newspapers for differing surnames for about the next 60 days.  And, to
have full access to anyone at any time in the newspaper archives you
have to pay an extra fee.

The good news--the WorldVitalRecords people were very helpful and, they
lived up to their promise of money back if you were not satisfied.

I ended up canceling my WVR subscription and subscribed to Newspaper
Archives for about $73 for two years.  I'm very pleased with this
subscription as you cannot imagine how many obituary, wedding and other
various pieces of information I've located.  You are able to copy the
newspaper articles and their source information into your database or
save or print them.  Some of the newspapers available are quite
old...into the early 1900's and perhaps even earlier than that in some
cases.  Of course, there are many newspapers that have not yet been
scanned but they keep adding to the database.

Me, I'm very pleased with Newspaper Archives and would rate it quite
high as it gives us a glimpse of ancestor/family activities, interests
and events.  I've found a number of cousins in these articles as,
often, the writer includes the names of everyone who attend.  So, in
summary, I can't readily compare Newspaper Archives directly to Ancestry
which I also like.

Yvonne





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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread William Boswell
It looks like a formatting code.



From: Yvonne Morehouse [mailto:y.moreho...@comcast.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:19 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com



Alan:Â  I have no idea what was going on...was very surprised to see that, 
myself.

Yvonne

On 1/4/2011 7:53 PM, Alan Eade wrote:

Hello Yvonne

To what does  refer, in your email

regards Alan





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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Mike Fry
On 2011/01/05 17:44, William Boswell wrote:
 It looks like a formatting code.

 *From:*Yvonne Morehouse [mailto:y.moreho...@comcast.net]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 05, 2011 9:19 AM
 *To:* LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 *Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

 Alan:Â I have no idea what was going on...was very surprised to see that, 
 myself.

 Yvonne

 On 1/4/2011 7:53 PM, Alan Eade wrote:

 Hello Yvonne

 To what does  refer, in your email

 regards Alan

And it only appears in the HTML section of the message, not the plain text.
Yvonne uses an email client that sends the message text twice in the one
message. Once as plain text and once as HTML.

In the original message, after the first sentence, there is this sequence of
characters - =C3=82=C2=A0 - Obviously hex representations of specific non-Ascii
characters.

--
Regards,
Mike Fry
Johannesburg



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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Cathy-0
I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area.  They have the
following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the
computers at the FHC.

-- WorldVitalRecords.com
-- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest)
-- Footnote.com
-- Godfrey Memorial Library
-- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives
-- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK)
-- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online)
-- Historic Map Works Library Edition
-- Alexander Street Press-- The American Civil War

You can locate an LDS FHC in your area by going to their web site and
clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on the
right hand side of the page. https://www.familysearch.org/




- Original Message -
From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


I forgot about Godfrey Memorial Library.  I used to belong to them several
years ago, but when they lost access to a lot of databases due to ProQuest
raising their rates they had to be dropped.  What they were left with after
that was very little and not worth the subscription so I dropped it.






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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread William Boswell
Thanks.  I've never been to an FHC ever, but maybe I should go.  My problem 
with it is that I have so many different lines to research and I'd have to 
print everything out since I don't have a laptop or any other electronic device 
to hold all my information.  That's why I prefer to do it from home.

-Original Message-
From: Cathy-0 [mailto:chorn0...@optimum.net]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:30 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area.  They have the
following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the
computers at the FHC.

-- WorldVitalRecords.com
-- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest)
-- Footnote.com
-- Godfrey Memorial Library
-- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives
-- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK)
-- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online)
-- Historic Map Works Library Edition
-- Alexander Street Press-- The American Civil War

You can locate an LDS FHC in your area by going to their web site and
clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on the
right hand side of the page. https://www.familysearch.org/




- Original Message -
From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:21 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


I forgot about Godfrey Memorial Library.  I used to belong to them several
years ago, but when they lost access to a lot of databases due to ProQuest
raising their rates they had to be dropped.  What they were left with after
that was very little and not worth the subscription so I dropped it.






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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Kathy Meyer
William,  Flash drives are very inexpensive these days; even a 2gb one
will work for your travel to a library or FHC; check the sunday sale
papers and I'll bet you can find one under $10.  I do prefer to work
at home myself; it's more convenient and I can work in my jammies; but
there is something to be said for going somewhere else and really
dedicating yourself to the work you are doing without 'home'
distractions.  Kathy

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:15 AM, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks.  I've never been to an FHC ever, but maybe I should go.  My problem 
 with it is that I have so many different lines to research and I'd have to 
 print everything out since I don't have a laptop or any other electronic 
 device to hold all my information.  That's why I prefer to do it from home.

 -Original Message-
 From: Cathy-0 [mailto:chorn0...@optimum.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 11:30 AM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

 I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area.  They have the
 following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the
 computers at the FHC.

 -- WorldVitalRecords.com
 -- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest)
 -- Footnote.com
 -- Godfrey Memorial Library
 -- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives
 -- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK)
 -- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online)
 -- Historic Map Works Library Edition
 -- Alexander Street Press-- The American Civil War

 You can locate an LDS FHC in your area by going to their web site and
 clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on the
 right hand side of the page. https://www.familysearch.org/




 - Original Message -
 From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:21 PM
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


I forgot about Godfrey Memorial Library.  I used to belong to them several
years ago, but when they lost access to a lot of databases due to ProQuest
raising their rates they had to be dropped.  What they were left with after
that was very little and not worth the subscription so I dropped it.






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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Tim Rosenlof
Don't they also have a crippled version of Ancestry.com, just for FHC ?

Tim Rosenlof

On 1/5/2011 9:29 AM, Cathy-0 wrote:
 I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area.  They have the
 following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the
 computers at the FHC.

 -- WorldVitalRecords.com
 -- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest)
 -- Footnote.com
 -- Godfrey Memorial Library
 -- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives
 -- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK)
 -- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online)
 -- Historic Map Works Library Edition
 -- Alexander Street Press--  The American Civil War

 You can locate an LDS FHC in your area by going to their web site and
 clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on the
 right hand side of the page. https://www.familysearch.org/




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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Kathy Meyer
ha ha, Tim, you're so funny!  A crippled version?  Yep, that's exactly
what it is though.  I think they call it 'limited', not crippled
though.  I think it's the 'library version' technically but yes, it is
less than what we would like to see. My FHC has a volunteer there 99%
of the time who has a personal subscription and will sign on and help
you look for something if you need help but it is not available for
general searches.  You'd think ancestry.com would want to give the
FHCs total access so people could go there and check it out and then
buy a new subscription. Maybe even a discount for signing up through
an FHC account?  It would benefit both.  But no, that isn't a good
marketing strategy I guess.  Almost everyone would rather have home
access if they can afford it at all and not everyone lives so close to
FHCs like I do.  Silly Ancestry.com!  Kathy

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
 Don't they also have a crippled version of Ancestry.com, just for FHC ?

 Tim Rosenlof

 On 1/5/2011 9:29 AM, Cathy-0 wrote:
 I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area.  They have the
 following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the
 computers at the FHC.

 -- WorldVitalRecords.com
 -- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest)
 -- Footnote.com
 -- Godfrey Memorial Library
 -- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives
 -- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK)
 -- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online)
 -- Historic Map Works Library Edition
 -- Alexander Street Press--  The American Civil War

 You can locate an LDS FHC in your area by going to their web site and
 clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on the
 right hand side of the page. https://www.familysearch.org/




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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Cathy-0
Tim,

The FHC where I volunteer used to have access to Ancestry.com but, as I
understand it, the LDS Family History Library gave it up several years ago.
I never noticed any different between their former subscription and my
personal subscription to Ancestry.

Since the LDS FHC gave up Ancestry.com altogether, I have made my own
subscription to Ancestry.com available to patrons when I am there.

Cathy-0


- Original Message -
From: Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


 Don't they also have a crippled version of Ancestry.com, just for FHC ?

 Tim Rosenlof

 On 1/5/2011 9:29 AM, Cathy-0 wrote:
 I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area.  They have
 the
 following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the
 computers at the FHC.

 -- WorldVitalRecords.com
 -- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest)
 -- Footnote.com
 -- Godfrey Memorial Library
 -- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives
 -- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK)
 -- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online)
 -- Historic Map Works Library Edition
 -- Alexander Street Press--  The American Civil War

 You can locate an LDS FHC in your area by going to their web site and
 clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on
 the
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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread Scott Hall
Many public libraries have access to the library edition of Ancestry,
as well as other genealogy databases such as those published by
ProQuest.  I've particularly found HeritageQuest to be of great value
as I can access it with my library card from home for free.  My local
library also provides access to American Ancestors (formerly New
England Ancestors).

On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Cathy-0 chorn0...@optimum.net wrote:

 Tim,

 The FHC where I volunteer used to have access to Ancestry.com but, as I
 understand it, the LDS Family History Library gave it up several years ago.
 I never noticed any different between their former subscription and my
 personal subscription to Ancestry.

 Since the LDS FHC gave up Ancestry.com altogether, I have made my own
 subscription to Ancestry.com available to patrons when I am there.

 Cathy-0


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 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 12:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


  Don't they also have a crippled version of Ancestry.com, just for FHC ?
 
  Tim Rosenlof
 
  On 1/5/2011 9:29 AM, Cathy-0 wrote:
  I volunteer at an LDS Family History Center (FHC) in my area.  They have
  the
  following databases ** for free ** to any patrons who come in and use the
  computers at the FHC.
 
  -- WorldVitalRecords.com
  -- Heritage Quest (from ProQuest)
  -- Footnote.com
  -- Godfrey Memorial Library
  -- 19th Century British Library Newspaper Digital Archives
  -- The Genealogist.co. (indexes and records in the UK)
  -- Genline.com (Swedish Church books online)
  -- Historic Map Works Library Edition
  -- Alexander Street Press--  The American Civil War
 
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  clicking on the picture of the Salt Lake City Family History Library on
  the
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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-05 Thread David Midgley
I'll add my 2 cents on this topic.

I use all the previously mentioned pay sites and have found good value
in every one of them.  They are all sufficiently different that even
when they overlap some I still find value in checking the multiple
sites. What you will find of value to you on a specific site depends
greatly on what type of records you are looking for and in what
location and what time period.   I personally am glad for the
diversity of sites and competition as we users get a much better
product because of it.

My favorite pay sites for the majority of people that I research
right now are Ancestry, Footnote, World Vital Records, Newspaper
Archives, and Genealogy Bank.  Godfrey may have greater value if you
research the New England area and their site is in great need of a
face-lift. I have dropped my subscription to it and use the FHC access
to Godfrey if I need to use it. I have personal subscriptions to all
of the others.  The Library editions mentioned that are available
through some FHC's (not all small FHC's have the same full access to
all of the sites because of a combination of vendor restrictions and
costs to FamilySearch) are almost identical to the personal
subscriptions you may have bought.  As an example, at Ancestry you
will have a slightly different interface in the Library Edition vs a
personal subscription but will be able to access almost 100% of the
same material.

Regarding World Vital Records and the original query on this thread, I
have always found the complete list of databases in a prominent tab
right at top center of the home page titled View All Databases. It
is definitely not hidden. If I click it, it brings up an alphabetical
listing of everyone of them that includes the Database Title, Category
and number of Names in each database. It's actually better than some
of the other sites.

If your budget is limited, go to a FHC or Library that has access and
check what each might have of value to you, then spend your money on
the site of greatest value to you personally.  One size will most
likely not fit all, so choose wisely.  As mentioned above, I subscribe
to all the above sites and have found that they are all worth the time
they save and the money they cost so I can access them at home.
Calculate the cost of one short research trip away from home for 4-5
days with hotel, food and transportation and it will cover the cost of
all of them combined for a year or more. I think that Ancestry charges
too much, but it is still a cost I am willing to pay for what they
offer me.

Good luck,

Dave



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[LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Don Cook
I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking here because I
value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
Are you finding it useful?
How do you rate it against others (for example, Ancestry.com)?

Thanx for your patience,
Don




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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread William Boswell
I got an email the other day from them, but there doesn't seem to be any way to 
find out what records they have in their collection.  They've got some crummy 
special going on--one month access for $12.95 (expires Jan 7, 2011), but I 
didn't think it was all that special if they don't give us a clue as to what 
they have.

I believe FamilyLink.com owns WorldVitalRecords now.  In keeping with their 
tradition of not disclosing their content, I guess they aren't willing to tell 
us what WVR has either.

I'm finding so much information at the LDS website than I've found anywhere 
else in years.  I wouldn't subscribe to anything sight unseen especially if 
they don't offer a test drive.

Bill Boswell

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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:44 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking here because I
value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
Are you finding it useful?
How do you rate it against others (for example, Ancestry.com)?

Thanx for your patience,
Don




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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Syble Glasscock
Yes, I regretable subscribed to World Vital Records, I've found nothing of 
value to me on their website.
Syble

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 10:36 PM
 I got an email the other day from
 them, but there doesn't seem to be any way to find out what
 records they have in their collection.  They've got
 some crummy special going on--one month access for $12.95
 (expires Jan 7, 2011), but I didn't think it was all that
 special if they don't give us a clue as to what they have.

 I believe FamilyLink.com owns WorldVitalRecords now. 
 In keeping with their tradition of not disclosing their
 content, I guess they aren't willing to tell us what WVR has
 either.

 I'm finding so much information at the LDS website than
 I've found anywhere else in years.  I wouldn't
 subscribe to anything sight unseen especially if they don't
 offer a test drive.

 Bill Boswell

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Cook [mailto:docoo...@msn.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:44 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

 I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking
 here because I
 value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

 Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
 Are you finding it useful?
 How do you rate it against others (for example,
 Ancestry.com)?

 Thanx for your patience,
 Don




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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Eliz Hanebury
Ancestry 10, WVR 1 I wouldn't waste my time.


Eliz

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Don Cook docoo...@msn.com wrote:
 I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking here because I
 value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

 Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
 Are you finding it useful?
 How do you rate it against others (for example, Ancestry.com)?

 Thanx for your patience,
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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Don Cook
I want to thank all who responded to my query.  The consensus seems to be
that anything on WVR.com is probably available somewhere else free.

Thanx again,
Don

-Original Message-
From: Don Cook

I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking here because I
value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
Are you finding it useful?
How do you rate it against others (for example, Ancestry.com)?




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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Kay Fordham
Don,

It depends upon what you are looking for and where. I viewed the available
database listing before I subscribed. After that I found land and probate
records, family histories and so on, not available at other sites. On some
searches it may come up with something on Footnote (I have a subscription)
or Google Books. The latter is free; however, it is nice to perform one
search in one place and come up with the different sources. I also have a
subscription to Ancestry.com. My husband and I are avid researchers, and we
more than get our money's worth. I research on many subscription and free
sites - all have something different to offer.

Check out WVRs database listing thoroughly and see what may be of use to
you.

Good Luck
Kay

- Original Message -
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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:43 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking here because I
value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
Are you finding it useful?
How do you rate it against others (for example, Ancestry.com)?

Thanx for your patience,
Don




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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Yvonne Morehouse
Yes, I did subscribe about a month ago.  I found that 99.5% of the
records that were useful to me were the newspapers.

However, what was not told to subscribers is you could only look for 10
surnames--you learn about this restriction after you've been in the site
for a little while.  At some point, you are asked to identify 10
surnames and are locked into those 10.  (They didn't explain why you had
to pick 10 surnames so I locked myself into surnames that weren't that
important to me.)  Once the surname lock happens you can't search the
newspapers for differing surnames for about the next 60 days.  And, to
have full access to anyone at any time in the newspaper archives you
have to pay an extra fee.

The good news--the WorldVitalRecords people were very helpful and, they
lived up to their promise of money back if you were not satisfied.

I ended up canceling my WVR subscription and subscribed to Newspaper
Archives for about $73 for two years.  I'm very pleased with this
subscription as you cannot imagine how many obituary, wedding and other
various pieces of information I've located.  You are able to copy the
newspaper articles and their source information into your database or
save or print them.  Some of the newspapers available are quite
old...into the early 1900's and perhaps even earlier than that in some
cases.  Of course, there are many newspapers that have not yet been
scanned but they keep adding to the database.

Me, I'm very pleased with Newspaper Archives and would rate it quite
high as it gives us a glimpse of ancestor/family activities, interests
and events.  I've found a number of cousins in these articles as,
often, the writer includes the names of everyone who attend.  So, in
summary, I can't readily compare Newspaper Archives directly to Ancestry
which I also like.

Yvonne





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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Kay Fordham
Yvonne,

I have searched for hours on WVR and have not been limited in any way on
newspapers or other records. The newspapers at WVR are from
Newspaper.Archives that you mention. I also forgot to mention that WVR also
has family histories from the Godfrey Memorial Library Collection (this is a
subscription site!). It took me quite awhile to discover all of the records
on this site. The $59.XX is well worth it for my needs.

Again, it depends upon what your are looking for and where.

Kay

- Original Message -
From: Yvonne Morehouse y.moreho...@comcast.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


Yes, I did subscribe about a month ago.  I found that 99.5% of the
records that were useful to me were the newspapers.

However, what was not told to subscribers is you could only look for 10
surnames--you learn about this restriction after you've been in the site
for a little while.  At some point, you are asked to identify 10
surnames and are locked into those 10.  (They didn't explain why you had
to pick 10 surnames so I locked myself into surnames that weren't that
important to me.)  Once the surname lock happens you can't search the
newspapers for differing surnames for about the next 60 days.  And, to
have full access to anyone at any time in the newspaper archives you
have to pay an extra fee.

The good news--the WorldVitalRecords people were very helpful and, they
lived up to their promise of money back if you were not satisfied.

I ended up canceling my WVR subscription and subscribed to Newspaper
Archives for about $73 for two years.  I'm very pleased with this
subscription as you cannot imagine how many obituary, wedding and other
various pieces of information I've located.  You are able to copy the
newspaper articles and their source information into your database or
save or print them.  Some of the newspapers available are quite
old...into the early 1900's and perhaps even earlier than that in some
cases.  Of course, there are many newspapers that have not yet been
scanned but they keep adding to the database.

Me, I'm very pleased with Newspaper Archives and would rate it quite
high as it gives us a glimpse of ancestor/family activities, interests
and events.  I've found a number of cousins in these articles as,
often, the writer includes the names of everyone who attend.  So, in
summary, I can't readily compare Newspaper Archives directly to Ancestry
which I also like.

Yvonne





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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Perk Bingham
Hi all,

I can't speak for anyone else but WVR is available online through our
local library web site, and it's free, all you need is a library card.

I have no idea if the database is the same as the pay one though, but I
have had some success with it.

Regards,

Perk (:)

Family History: Where every little step backward means progress (:)

Researching:
Clawson, Kibby, Ford, Starek  Rohrer (in Ohio)
And
Black, Webb, Millar,  Nichol (in Ontario  UK)






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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread DianeLeMasson
Hi

I too subscribed a long time ago  canceled right away when
I realized they do not have complete or up to date records.
e.g US Census, no 1930, other years, most states didn't have
complete counties or missing completely.
Then again I am researching data later than 1920.
I had far better luck joining Ancestry which do have up to date
records.




- Original Message -
From: Perk Bingham p...@wavecable.com
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


 Hi all,

 I can't speak for anyone else but WVR is available online through our
 local library web site, and it's free, all you need is a library card.

 I have no idea if the database is the same as the pay one though, but I
 have had some success with it.

 Regards,

 Perk (:)

 Family History: Where every little step backward means progress (:)

 Researching:
 Clawson, Kibby, Ford, Starek  Rohrer (in Ohio)
 And
 Black, Webb, Millar,  Nichol (in Ontario  UK)






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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Gene Adams
I had a subscription to WVR for a year and never really found it useful enough
to warrant the cost.  Currently am accessing the site via the Legacy search with
modification to limit to BirthYear and DeathYear.  I have found some records
within the google book section that then allows me to track down the information
at the libraries geneology section and pull the proper source information. 
After my first year...did not renew as it did not deliver what was promised.

Gene





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Sent: Tue, January 4, 2011 1:43:33 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking here because I
value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
Are you finding it useful?
How do you rate it against others (for example, Ancestry.com)?

Thanx for your patience,
Don




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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Alan Eade
Hello Yvonne

To what does  refer, in your email

regards Alan




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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Some libraries and local LDS may belong to some of these databases. Then you 
can use their 'free' connection, to determine if there is enough to use at 
their place, or order for at home. Each DB (Ancestry, World, NFS, etc) is 
growing and adding new records daily. What you need to do is decide what you 
want to find, then locate who has it (if anyone).
Do not belittle the 'special'. For instance, there is a company that offers 
Swedish records, that is over my budget, but I try to get a two week or month 
'pass' one a year. You might want to get the WVR month, but what I have found. 
You can somtimes pick the date range at paying, and aim it at your vacation.
You may find something that destroys your biggest brick wall.
Remember to unsubsc-ribe the next day, so no second month, or you may find so 
much to keep it.
Happy Hunting
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 2:36 PM
 I got an email the other day from
 them, but there doesn't seem to be any way to find out what
 records they have in their collection.  They've got
 some crummy special going on--one month access for $12.95
 (expires Jan 7, 2011), but I didn't think it was all that
 special if they don't give us a clue as to what they have.

 I believe FamilyLink.com owns WorldVitalRecords now. 
 In keeping with their tradition of not disclosing their
 content, I guess they aren't willing to tell us what WVR has
 either.

 I'm finding so much information at the LDS website than
 I've found anywhere else in years.  I wouldn't
 subscribe to anything sight unseen especially if they don't
 offer a test drive.

 Bill Boswell

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Cook [mailto:docoo...@msn.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:44 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

 I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking
 here because I
 value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

 Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
 Are you finding it useful?
 How do you rate it against others (for example,
 Ancestry.com)?

 Thanx for your patience,
 Don




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Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread SalUDevil
I get newspaperarchives.com through my local library website for  free.
And you are correctI found my grandma's obituary and it gave me  many
clues to unanswered questions!

Sally

In a message dated 1/4/2011 7:03:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
y.moreho...@comcast.net writes:
Yes, I did subscribe about a month  ago.  I found that 99.5% of the
records that were useful to me were the  newspapers.Â

However, what was not told to subscribers is you  could only look for 10
surnames--you learn about this restriction after you've  been in the site for
a little while.  At some point, you are asked to  identify 10 surnames and
are locked into those 10.  (They didn't explain  why you had to pick 10
surnames so I locked myself into surnames that weren't  that important to me.)Â
 Once the surname lock happens you can't search the  newspapers for
differing surnames for about the next 60 days.  And, to  have full access to
anyone at any time in the newspaper archives you have to pay  an extra fee.

The good news--the WorldVitalRecords people were very  helpful and, they
lived up to their promise of money back if you were not  satisfied.Â

I ended up canceling my WVR subscription and  subscribed to Newspaper
Archives for about $73 for two years.  I'm very  pleased with this subscription
as you cannot imagine how many obituary, wedding  and other various pieces
of information I've located.  You are able to  copy the newspaper articles
and their source information into your database or  save or print them.Â
Some of the newspapers available are quite old...into  the early 1900's and
perhaps even earlier than that in some cases.  Of  course, there are many
newspapers that have not yet been scanned but they keep  adding to the database.

Me, I'm very pleased with Newspaper Archives and  would rate it quite high
as it gives us a glimpse of ancestor/family activities,  interests and
events.  I've found a number of cousins in these articles  as, often, the
writer includes the names of everyone who attend.  So, in  summary, I can't
readily compare Newspaper Archives directly to Ancestry which I  also like.

Yvonne




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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread geoffbr...@juno.com
Bill,
I found worldvitalrecords.com helpful, particularly in finding references in 
books.  Footnote.com was great for Census records and Civil War and 
Revolutionary War records.
The LDS website is fantastic, but it is buyer beware.  I say this as a lot 
has not been properly documented.  All you need is one direct ancestor mistake 
to lead you astray for generations.
Trust but verify.  Wear out the LDS site to get names and dates and then use an 
on-line subscription to back it up with documentation.  My experience is that 
both these sites, worldvitalrecords and footnote, will give you a seven day 
trial run.  Schedule a week of vacation, kiss your wife goodbye, stay hydrated 
and wear out your seven day trial.
Good luck!

-- Original Message --
From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:43:36 -0800 (PST)

Some libraries and local LDS may belong to some of these databases. Then you 
can use their 'free' connection, to determine if there is enough to use at 
their place, or order for at home. Each DB (Ancestry, World, NFS, etc) is 
growing and adding new records daily. What you need to do is decide what you 
want to find, then locate who has it (if anyone).
Do not belittle the 'special'. For instance, there is a company that offers 
Swedish records, that is over my budget, but I try to get a two week or month 
'pass' one a year. You might want to get the WVR month, but what I have found. 
You can somtimes pick the date range at paying, and aim it at your vacation.
You may find something that destroys your biggest brick wall.
Remember to unsubsc-ribe the next day, so no second month, or you may find so 
much to keep it.
Happy Hunting
Rich in LA CA

--- On Tue, 1/4/11, William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: William Boswell whbosw...@gmail.com
 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Date: Tuesday, January 4, 2011, 2:36 PM
 I got an email the other day from
 them, but there doesn't seem to be any way to find out what
 records they have in their collection.  They've got
 some crummy special going on--one month access for $12.95
 (expires Jan 7, 2011), but I didn't think it was all that
 special if they don't give us a clue as to what they have.

 I believe FamilyLink.com owns WorldVitalRecords now.Â
 In keeping with their tradition of not disclosing their
 content, I guess they aren't willing to tell us what WVR has
 either.

 I'm finding so much information at the LDS website than
 I've found anywhere else in years.  I wouldn't
 subscribe to anything sight unseen especially if they don't
 offer a test drive.

 Bill Boswell

 -Original Message-
 From: Don Cook [mailto:docoo...@msn.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 4:44 PM
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
 Subject: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

 I know this will seem slightly off-topic, but I am asking
 here because I
 value the opinion of my fellow Legacy users so much.

 Is anyone subscribed to WorldVitalRecords.com?
 Are you finding it useful?
 How do you rate it against others (for example,
 Ancestry.com)?

 Thanx for your patience,
 Don




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RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

2011-01-04 Thread Ron Bernier
Bill,

Have you tried going to the World Vital Records home page.  A listing of what 
they have is right on the home page in plain sight.  Not hidden at all.

-Original Message-
From: William Boswell [mailto:whbosw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

I forgot about Godfrey Memorial Library.  I used to belong to them several 
years ago, but when they lost access to a lot of databases due to ProQuest 
raising their rates they had to be dropped.  What they were left with after 
that was very little and not worth the subscription so I dropped it.

It sounds like it might be worth checking out again.  They used to have a 
database that was excellent at tracking people (living or dead) from one 
location to many others.  Then unfortunately it was pulled and only accessible 
by law enforcement.  I was able to track a lot of people and figure out how 
they were related or if they were related.  They have something else available 
now (free through libraries), but it isn't quite as good as the other one.

Another thing to check out is what your local library has that is accessible 
from home.  Many of them have newspapers as well and even some obscure ones 
that are very old.

On the WVR site, I've never been able to find a listing of what they have.  It 
must be well hidden.

Bill Boswell

-Original Message-
From: Kay Fordham [mailto:kayhawo...@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 7:17 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com

Yvonne,

I have searched for hours on WVR and have not been limited in any way on 
newspapers or other records. The newspapers at WVR are from Newspaper.Archives 
that you mention. I also forgot to mention that WVR also has family histories 
from the Godfrey Memorial Library Collection (this is a subscription site!). It 
took me quite awhile to discover all of the records on this site. The $59.XX is 
well worth it for my needs.

Again, it depends upon what your are looking for and where.

Kay

- Original Message -
From: Yvonne Morehouse y.moreho...@comcast.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] WorldVitalRecords.com


Yes, I did subscribe about a month ago.  I found that 99.5% of the
records that were useful to me were the newspapers.

However, what was not told to subscribers is you could only look for 10
surnames--you learn about this restriction after you've been in the site
for a little while.  At some point, you are asked to identify 10
surnames and are locked into those 10.  (They didn't explain why you had
to pick 10 surnames so I locked myself into surnames that weren't that
important to me.)  Once the surname lock happens you can't search the
newspapers for differing surnames for about the next 60 days.  And, to
have full access to anyone at any time in the newspaper archives you
have to pay an extra fee.

The good news--the WorldVitalRecords people were very helpful and, they
lived up to their promise of money back if you were not satisfied.

I ended up canceling my WVR subscription and subscribed to Newspaper
Archives for about $73 for two years.  I'm very pleased with this
subscription as you cannot imagine how many obituary, wedding and other
various pieces of information I've located.  You are able to copy the
newspaper articles and their source information into your database or
save or print them.  Some of the newspapers available are quite
old...into the early 1900's and perhaps even earlier than that in some
cases.  Of course, there are many newspapers that have not yet been
scanned but they keep adding to the database.

Me, I'm very pleased with Newspaper Archives and would rate it quite
high as it gives us a glimpse of ancestor/family activities, interests
and events.  I've found a number of cousins in these articles as,
often, the writer includes the names of everyone who attend.  So, in
summary, I can't readily compare Newspaper Archives directly to Ancestry
which I also like.

Yvonne





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