RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on newsforge on the subject, titled We can put an end to Word attachments. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238mode=thread and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently. interesting. it seems like anything I try to load on it (not just Hebrew) explodes, it's not even beta grade. does it save as word at all? because if it saves only as kword, it's not very useful for businesses yet either (apart from the instability) with koffice 1.1 i've managed to open Word97 files without a problem (haven't tried Word2000 yet, but the koffice site states that kword can also import Word2000 files in a good level of support, although it can't export to word format.). but true enough, kword is unstable and inconvenient. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew
Hi about stallman's article - as always, he's not a lunatic but an idealist. but the anti-word movement must come from the users, even MS users: personally, i hate word attachments mainly because they are big and tend to eat out my memory when i work with win98 on my office computer. i edit articles only on notepad (word's speller sucks anyway), and so do most of my employees. when exchanging documents over mail i encourage all our staff to use plain inline text, if they want a response within less than a two days ;-). because there's nothing like receiving a 1MB attachment with a single page document containing three lines and a .bmp company logo. and if HR people will only understand that, we'd all be better off. about our chat - i've already asked our chat admin to ask netfun for a version that will work on all platforms. meanwhile you can make do with the advanced chat we have - i know it kinda sucks, but it's better than nothing. hope netfun will provide us with a new version soon. i'll notify this list when he does... cheers, Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 7:00 PM To: Dvir Volk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: StarOffice - IBM's Hebrew Hi Dvir, I respect MR. Stallman opinion, but I still say he's lunatic and I really don't care how much flames I'll get. I'm looking at the real world here in Israel for example - I'm unmployeed and whenever I'm trying to send my CV as a text, HTML or PDF I get shouts from the HR department that my CV is unreadable or unprintable - when I send then Word 97 document - they're happy... BTW - since you're the editor in Nana, then allow me to take this chance and to ask Nana to either upgrade or do something about their Chats applets - it's only running on Netscape 4.X (which crashes a lot) and I cannot use it not with Sun's latest JRE, nor with IBM's JRE - so I can't use it in Konqueror, Galeon, Mozilla, Opera and others. Same goes to Mac users... Could someone upgrade it please? I know that Netfun (a.k.a - the bastards) supplied you with only that version - but for the price that you pay for this applet ($1,000!) I think you deserve an upgrade to more-standards JRE's.. Hetz On Sunday 13 January 2002 15:15, Dvir Volk wrote: Richard Stallman of GNU just published an interesting article on newsforge on the subject, titled We can put an end to Word attachments. http://www.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=02/01/10/1711238mode=thread and by the way, KWord can edit hebrew MSWord documents rather decently. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Linux, Office2000, Lindows - and Hebrew
-Original Message- From: guy keren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:11 AM they have programmers working on wine locally, and they don't sync everything back to the official wine tree. they don't write that on their web site, but it is implied. well, doesn't that mean that they are compelled to release their version of wine freely? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)
thanks :-) we'll be doing a big don't be afraid of Linux story soon. but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew support will be optimal. btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised? Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Ben-Nes Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 11:42 AM To: linux ILUG Subject: nice article - good for pushng linux :) http://magazine.nana.co.il/thestory.asp?storyid=2601 -- Canaan Surfing Ltd. Internet Service Providers Ben-Nes Michael - Manager Tel: 972-4-6991122 http://sites.canaan.co.il -- = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)
I'll be keeping my fingers crossed. editing complex texts with kde2.2 and biditext is very uncomfortable. if KDE would be able to provide a bidi level that even will enable me to edit long hebrew articles on it, i swear i'll format my XP partition on the release day. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 8:59 PM To: Dvir Volk; Ben-Nes Michael; linux ILUG Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: nice article - good for pushng linux :) On Tuesday 29 January 2002 13:47, Dvir Volk wrote: thanks :-) we'll be doing a big don't be afraid of Linux story soon. but i think it might better to wait until KDE3.0 is released and hebrew support will be optimal. btw, does KDE3.0 really deliver in the hebrew field as promised? Well, almost... As it is now, you can type in hebrew and it will move right to left correctly (maybe a small bug or 2 are still there - didn't test the latest snapshot and QT 3.0.2 should be out any day now).. There is some small work need to be done with KDE itself regarding bidi (to return data from multi line form in the correct encoding, for example), as well as some table fixing which needs to be fixed (Ynet and Nana look ok, but Globes seems totally broken) Unfortunately - the guy who is doing the QT BiDi as well as KDE Bidi is the same (very busy) person - lars. I'll try to nag him a bit later once beta 2 will be out (RPMS/DEBS for beta 2 will be available this monday). Of course - if someone could help with the QT/KDE problems and knows the BiDi algoritm a bit and can land a hand - then please help. Hetz To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: nice article - good for pushng linux :)
And that (IMHO) would be a very foolish step (again, IMHO) ... So as for your formatting XP - allow me to suggest to you - stay with your XP for now - and only when you see that all your needs can be fulfilled with Linux - then switch to Linux, and even then - I suggest you leave your XP there - as we say - just in case ;) hmmm... well, it might be jumping a bit too fast, you're right. but it was just meant as a metaphor to how much i'm waiting for the proper bidi support to happen. apart from hebrew text editing, linux and kde 2.2 already fulfill all my humble needs, really (although the ximian connector thingie would help a lot, too). besides - i'm doomed to stay with windows (98, no less) on my workplace-paid-for-and-owned crappy laptop. dvir To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Building kde-3.0-beta1
btw, beta2 is scheduled for relaese today, any news if it's going to be on time? so far there's nothing on their site, besiedes the planned schedule. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hebrew on KDE3.0b2
Hi I've compiled the lond awaited KDE3.0 beta 2, and it works ok, more or less. The hebrew support is also excellent, except for one strange thing: I can write herbew in kedit very well (RTL and all), but once i save the document, and open it again, i get just ??? ?? ?. also, hebrew text files (unicode and non unicode alike) composed on windows, either open as question marks or gebrish (on kedit, kwrite and kate alike). i use windows unicode fonts such as arial and tahoma. is that a problem of mine or a KDE bug? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hebrew on KDE3.0b2
What's relevant is the text encoding selected in KEdit when saving. You can select a text encoding in the Save As dialog. Nope, that option doesn't exist in kedit, only in kate. would be nice to have it, though. The question isn't which font you select in Notepad but how you save it in Notepad. In Windows 2000 and later, Notepad has an option for saving in UTF-8 as well as in Unicode format. Try both and see whether KEdit can handle them. If KEdit doesn't open one of them smoothly (it should open the Unicode on smoothly), pre-select the encoding in KEdit's Open dialog. a. those are mostly win98 txt files, not unicode texts. b. and there's no selection of encoding when opening. hmmm... looks like there's still some work to do on the hebrew support. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange in Linux
What do you know, Ximian announced today the release of Connector, which will allow you to connect to an Excahnge server using Evolution. Which is good news for people with paranoid corporate sysadmins that don't allow IMAP access to their Exchange servers (that would be me) :) Sadly, it's rather expensive at $69 a license. her'es the PR, anyway http://www.ximian.com/about_us/press_center/press_releases/connector_lau nch.html which reminds me: does Evolution work properly with hebrew under GTK 2.0? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange in Linux
(as iff MS wants you to use an exchange server instead of the standard). hmmm... i can believe that :) Mozilla is still problematic with respect to Hebrew, though, I believe (some small issues: like: how do you set the main direction of a message to be RTL) I haven't tried working with kmail under kde3.0 yet, but i found mozilla to be the best Hebrew/HTML mail client for linux so far. the hebrew support in 0.9.8 is excellent for most needs. it is also far more stable than the verisons of kmail and evolution i've tried. how is the new kmail in that sense? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The cursor when writing Hebrew in KDE 3.0
BTW, it isn't working in Kate for some reason. Yes, kate is completely broken for arabic and hebrew. the cursor progression also doesn't work in Kword, which is a shame... (guess it will probably be fixed in koffice 1.2) but kedit really does the job. btw, i didn't manage to open hebrew (or non hebrew, for that matter) RTF files with Kword. is there a filter available? this release is simply asskicking. i hope Gnome 2.0 will be as good as this - it's a real challenge! I'll be publishing a story about KDE as a free option for israeli desktop users in Nana in the next few days. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KDE 3.0 Instelation
which kinda makes you wonder: why isn't there just one big package for each distro, with all the needed dependecies (qt, libxml, openssh and such), and seperate packages for the extra stuff such as devel packages, koffice and maybe kdevelop? i mean, most people install it lock, stock and libs - why seperate it to millions of tiny rpms? they are good to have as seperate components, but along side a big super-rpm. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Ariel Biener [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 5:45 PM To: Tzafrir Cohen Cc: linux ILUG Subject: Re: KDE 3.0 Instelation On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: Except ... Except nothing. Everything worked. RPM's dependencies should have verified such silly stuff for you, right? Sure, but I used --nodeps --Ariel -- Ariel Biener e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PGP(6.5.8) public key http://www.tau.ac.il/~ariel/pgp.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KDE 3.0 Instelation
I liked the zillion packages. You see, sometimes I jsut want one component, not the entire warehouse. I didn't say that there shouldn't be seperate packages, of course that IS GOOD. but you i would also like to see a bundled package with all the necessary files and libs inside. i mean, the way i see it - kde is all about bringing ease of use to Linux. and it does that, but just AFTER you install it. for, let's say, an advanced newbie, upgrading will be possible but annoying, if not difficult. people on this list (none of which is a newbie, i presume) had trouble with it; i've been helping a few friends of mine (advanced newbies) who had trouble with it; even this article on linuxplanet (which appeared on /. yesterday) bitches about it. http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/4138/1/ can you compare this to the ease of installing staroffice (i know, i know it's not the same thing), Ximian or a new Mozilla release? and of course, i'm saying this from the point of view of a dedicated KDE follower. maybe there should be some kind of KDE Upgrade Tool. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: KDE3
problem with that, i can read hebrew, but how do write in hebrew chars? add the hebrew keybord layout in Kcontrol, and use alt+ctrl+k to switch between the layouts that you want to use... which reminds me - is there any way to define the switch combination to be alt+shift? the key combination chooser does not allow it, but is there any tweak to it? meanwhile, i found that ctrl+\ is the nicest switch combination for me. alt+ctrl+k is not handy when you have to switch a lot. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wondering about free software.
I am now thinking to develop a program that will offer a good alternative to these programs... But what will I get from it? The only reason for someone to develop such programs is to sale them... No small office will pay a programmer to write special programs for it's use... but imagine what will happen if you write a good opensource program like that. if it will be good and competitive, pretty soon you will have customers wanting to install it. you can charge them for it, you can charge them for documentation, for installation and for support. the fact that it will be open source won't mean it can't be big business. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Wondering about free software.
If I were him and I wanted to write some open source applications for living, then I would have been in a big problem. What makes you sure that if he writes for a company an open source program and sells it - that I (or anyone else) will take the sources and sell it to their competitors for 1/10th of the original author? nothing. you can give the software itself for free if you like (good gimmick!), but what about installation and ongoing support? business software always needs guidance, support, installation and upgrades. charge for it. of course it will be less lucritive than proprietary software, but you gain another thing - the ability to incroperate already written open source in your program, and the ability to have people upgrading your code once it's out there. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: linux forums in Israerl [was: Re: Nana Linux forum]
Which of them require registration for posting (something that personally annoys me) Nana does allow me to correct you, we DO NOT REQUIRE REGISTRATION in order to post on Nana (we used to, but not since last month). all you have to do is agree to a disclaimer (stating you won't break the law and behave yourself) on the first time you try to post, and you are ready to go. i think all the rest of the forums do require registration. you need to register only if you want to preserve a unique nickname for yourself, that will enable only yourself to post under that nickname. and aout browser compatibilty - nana's forums work fairly ok on mozilla on konqi, and are W3C compliant since we use XML/XSL, but if you find any problems let me know. ***and on this opportunity, thanks a bunch and good luck to Hetz in running the forum!*** Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by Netvision http://www.nana.co.il/ winmail.dat
RE: chat problems ..
We've asked NetFun to fix it, but so far they haven't issued a new version, but as mentioned before, our Advanced chat works (not perfectly, i admit) on linux. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Ilya Konstantinov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 10:27 AM To: Eli Segal Cc: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: chat problems .. On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 01:13:19PM +0200, Eli Segal wrote: first of all, i have problems to load most of the chats on my linux All NetFun-coded Java applets wouldn't work on Java 2, at least not reliably. Basically, they only work well on Microsoft's JRE. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Elections
Get some money from the goverment, get some funding for Hebrew applications development on Linux - stuff like that.. this might be a good time to do that - as you've probably read, the government is considering funding hebrew open source projects. http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/1,7340,L-1904994,00.html and speaking of funding - the yom iyoon that is being discussed on a separate thread can actually be an IGLU fund raising event. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PHP/Apache strange problem
that's what happened, but strange enough, three hours later it just works. maybe it was a local problem on the different machine i was trying to work with earlier. anyhow, just an interesting thing: the default setting of php in RH7.3 is to disable uploads, wiothout it being mentioned anywhere. but as i said, that configuration was ok even when it didn't work. -Original Message- From: Ilya Konstantinov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 7/3/2002 7:15 PM To: Dvir Volk Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: PHP/Apache strange problem On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 05:17:30PM +0200, Dvir Volk wrote: I've reinstalled apache and php from RPMs - and now i can submit the forms, but if i upload a file, nothing happens (the script times out). The script times out -- as in -- reaches the PHP execution time limit? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [August Penguin] It's all about the money
Do you expect 50 shekels to be too much? If so, I suggest you take a lower charge from people who might not come because of the price (kids, soldiers, muvtalim, etc.), say 20 shekels. Soldiers in uniform free? Kids under 16 at half price? Well, it's up to the organizers... how about girls enter free (mashke rihson hinam :-) ) but seriously, what's the estimated/confirmed number of people there? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Key signing party results
Those of you who did not participate, fret not - we'll have another key signing party in the next IGLU event. Which will be.? Fscked if I know. I know that at least gby and I are thinking about it. If you (or anyone else) have a suggestion, fire away... first of all, kudos on the event on friday. it was cool. IMHO, the next iglu event should not be an evangelistic one, and a larger event, possibly - targeted towards home users (advanced ones, of course) and webmasters, who might install linux if they knew how easy it has become, and that it supports hebrew. sort of a breaking the myths of linux or linux is for everyone event, with an intallfest and all. maybe in the holidays or something? just an anecdote: i had a meeting with an experienced webmaster who runs his site on linux last week, and he was surprised to hear that i run linux as a complete hebrew desktop. if people like him don't know of those capabilities of linux, there is serious evangelism to be done. just a suggestion :) To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Key signing party results
well, i'm willing to help if others want to organize it too. plus - if it becomes serious - i might (just might) also be able to get some sponsorship to such an event from Nana (ethics schmethics :) ). Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Muli Ben-Yehuda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:54 PM To: Dvir Volk Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Key signing party results On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 04:15:17PM +0200, Dvir Volk wrote: Those of you who did not participate, fret not - we'll have another key signing party in the next IGLU event. Which will be.? Fscked if I know. I know that at least gby and I are thinking about it. If you (or anyone else) have a suggestion, fire away... first of all, kudos on the event on friday. it was cool. IMHO, the next iglu event should not be an evangelistic one, and a larger event, possibly - targeted towards home users (advanced ones, of course) and webmasters, who might install linux if they knew how easy it has become, and that it supports hebrew. sort of a breaking the myths of linux or linux is for everyone event, with an intallfest and all. maybe in the holidays or something? Speaking from a personal point of view, I would find such an event ... boring. BUT - I agree that it's important for the continuing spread of linux, and therefore, if someone volunteers to organize it (and actually goes ahead and organizes it...) I will probably be there and help in whatever way I can. Remember kids, it's open source. If you want it done, send a patch ;) -- http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~mulix/ http://syscalltrack.sf.net/ To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: nana's chat working
are you sure it's the basic chat and not the advanced one? the advanced chat worked since day 1 (well, if you ignore the fact that you the letter tav doesn't work) on linux, but i've never managed to run tour basic (netfun) chat on linux. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Diego Iastrubni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 6:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: nana's chat working Hey, I just wanted to tell you all that somehow nana's chat is somehow working. mozilla 1.0, jre 1.4.0_01. - diego -- The computer industry is journalists in their 20's standing in awe of entrepreneurs in their 30's who are hiring salesmen in their 40's and 50's and paying them in the 60's and 70's to bring their marketing into the 80's. -- Marty Winston = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: kab + dbms?
-Original Message- From: Arie Folger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 5:23 PM To: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: kab + dbms? Hi, I have a set of flat files which once upon a time were an access database. Once I migrated to Linux, I slowly turned it into a mysql database, and did elementary database management using kmysql. Kmysql is no longer maintained, IIRC (last update in January 2001), and its form feature was not powerful enough for me. Result is that in this one area I have not been able to get as much juice out of open source as I had with windoze. you should definitely check out this tool, called MyCC http://www.mysql.com/products/mycc/index.html it's maintained by MySQL itself, based on QT (should work with hebrew, though it's been a while since i last used it), and works pretty well (as well as looking pretty). here is a screenshot: http://apps.kde.com/na/2/show/id/1409/ss?tn=0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
old Yahoo! Messenger, anyone?
hi does anyone have the old Yahoo Messenger client RPM? it was about two years old, and worked fine with hebrew (with biditext, of course). now yahoo have upgraded their client, and though the new one has tons of cool features, i didn't manage to get it to display hebrew in messages, even with GTK2, and i've lost the old version's RPM, sadly. i also tried the KYIM client, but it wasn't good enough. so, if anyone still has the old version (RedHat i386), it would be much appreciated. thanks Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] proposed israeli laws regarding internet and encryption
One note: people there seem to be quite clueless regarding the distribution of encryption technologies: The legitlators accept the position of the Security Forces according to which limiting the use of encryption and limiting the distribution of sophisticated security systems will help the defense organizations to intercept messages containing information that can lead to to the circumvention of terrorist acts. On the other hand, giving encryption technologies to terrorists will increase the number of casualties in crimes that can't be prevented. Anybody else senses here a cheap use of the terror (in greek: fear) threat? you only quoted half a paragraph.the first half sets a different meaning and tone: we thought that all supervision on encryption should be cancelled, since it's obvious that a terrorist who want to deal with encryption won't ask for a license, where as legitimate companies encounter bureaucratic difficulties. all in all, i think most of what these guys want is pretty much ok: 1. limited responsibility of ISPs and sites to what people post on websites (needless to say, this will help me sleep better). 2. no supervision over encryption technologies. 3. clearing the subject of a state back door by law (which pretty much means no more of this rubbish, if it does exist) Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Microsoft to Cross the Borders
But according to tomorrow's edition of Boker-Tov (Good Morning), Microsoft is crossing the borders, supports Linux, releases its own version of Linux, and joins a group of software companies that support Open Source and choice/liberty. Full story at: http://bokertov.net/10-9-2002/news.htm Reading this site, I have a strange feeling the reporter misread http://softwarechoice.org/ (see http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26616.html , which may have got its author fired) the item is (according to the writer) based on this story from CNNfn http://money.cnn.com/2002/09/05/technology/microsoft/index.htm which does not mention an mslinux at all ;) Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Against Soddomite Beds (was: Re: redhat's new desktop policy)
it seems to me like so much double work on parallel KDE/Gnome components is being done on one hand, while the differences between the K and the G become smaller and smaller on the other hand, it's just absurd. Curious to notice that no one speaks about the horrible, criminal and insane duplication of effort going into maintaining separate Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD. Why can't the dumbwits, who run those distributions and borrow ideas from each other, unify their efforts and create The One True and Giant Distribution (TM, under penalty of anti-blasphamy laws)? there is one major difference: all free unix flavors SHARE libraries and apps, and are consistent with one another. which is exactly what i would expect of the two desktops. but GK don't (or almost don't). besides, if Gnome and KDE were to the desktop world what Linux and FreeBSD are to the OS world, things would be a bit different, wouldn't they? To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Qtext
do you think trhat porting QText to Linux is really feasible and worth the effort? i agree that the bidi support there was excellent, and i used to work with qtext for years, but qt's bidi support has become pretty mature, and i'm not sure if it's worth the effort of porting MFC or whatever windows code to linux, or if that won't mean rewriting the whole thing from scratch, practically. btw, the name, at least, is already linux-ready: it QText sounds perfect for a QT app :) Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Gilad Ben-Yossef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 10:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Qtext On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 11:19, Moshe Kaminsky wrote: My question is, is there someone who might want to fund it? Get us a number and we'll see how reasonable it is. Maybe we can have a 'Free Qtext!' funraiser or something... :-) Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://benyossef.com Too many journalists think that C4I really stands for Inteligence, Communication, Control, Computers and Consiparcy. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RH8.0 is out
it looks like the Redhat ftp is not standing the pressure, though. when is the iglu mirror supposed to be synchronized? Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RH8.0 is out
the netvision mirror now has an empty en dir, which implies it's currently synchronizing as we speak... Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by NetVision _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il NetVision LTD. Omega Center, Matam Haifa 31905 -Original Message- From: Nadav Har'El [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 2:51 PM To: Dvir Volk Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RH8.0 is out On Mon, Sep 30, 2002, Dvir Volk wrote about RH8.0 is out: it looks like the Redhat ftp is not standing the pressure, though. when is the iglu mirror supposed to be synchronized? And by the way, what about the redhat mirror in redhat.netvision.net.il? It seems to be carrying an empty 8.0 directory right now On ftp.cs.huji.ac.il the 8.0 is still unreadable, at the moment. -- Nadav Har'El| Monday, Sep 30 2002, 24 Tishri 5763 [EMAIL PROTECTED] |- Phone: +972-53-245868, ICQ 13349191 |As far as we know, our computer has never http://nadav.harel.org.il |had an undetected error. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: xmms rh8
I highly doubt it's legal. I've looked in fraunhofer's site, which refered me to an mp3 licensing site, that said: Do you license mp3/mp3PRO software to end users? No. We license mp3/mp3PRO software and patents to developers and manufacturers of software applications and hardware devices. Many software companies have a license for mp3 software applications from us (See list of Licensed Companies). Please contact them directly for their mp3/mp3PRO products or visit their web site. They also have a list of all the companies that licensed mp3 use. Needless to say that neither redhat nor xmms.org were registered. http://mp3licensing.com/licensees/index.asp -Original Message- From: voguemaster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 5:48 PM To: Linux-IL Subject: Re: xmms rh8 04/10/02 14:11:16, Oleg Kobets [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Besides, you can easily d/l the missing rpm from xmms website. Oleg. And is THAT legal ?? Those libraries use a technology which is patented, how is that allowed ??? Eli There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones.. - Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Compiling Qt 3.1 with Xft support under RedHat 8.0?
Hi Has anyone managed to compile Qt-copy (3.1, used for kde 3.1) with Xft support under RedHat 8.0? No matter what I've tried, I keep getting errors. Without Xft, of course, it compiles smoothly. Dvir Volk Editor in Chief Nana by Netvision [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Tel: 03-5652585 | Fax:03-6241952 | http://www.netvision.net.il http://www.nana.co.il To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I have 2 spare CPU's (maybe not)
I think it's because Xeon processors use hyperthreading, which is sort of like a dual processor inside one processor (not really, but a bit like it). that allows instructions from separate threads to be processed at once by the same CPU in one cycle. You can read more about it here: http://arstechnica.com/paedia/h/hyperthreading/hyperthreading-1.html -Original Message- From: Boris Gorelik [mailto:bgbg;pob.huji.ac.il] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:49 AM To: Linux-IL mailing list Subject: I have 2 spare CPU's (maybe not) this is a VERY strange problem. My boss have bought a new computer with two Xeon CPUs (he loves dual machines, and we don't comlain about it ;) ). Last wednesday I've noticed that the top command showed 4 CPU's: [bgbg]$ top -bn1i | head 10:32am up 4 days, 1:03, 7 users, load average: 1.59, 1.37, 0.84 103 processes: 101 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU0 states: 89.0% user, 10.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle CPU1 states: 0.1% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 99.0% idle CPU2 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle CPU3 states: 0.0% user, 2.0% system, 0.0% nice, 97.0% idle Mem: 513400K av, 442124K used, 71276K free, 0K shrd, 20064K buff Swap: 1068240K av, 0K used, 1068240K free 213524K cached I have even opened the box to verify the number of the CPU's. Does anyone know anything about this behaviour? How should I treat the load fugures I get from top? System: RH7.3, kernel 2.4.18.3smp, top --version: top (procps version 2.0.7) Have a nice life, -- Boris Gorelik Sun, 10/Nov/2002, 5 Kislev 5763 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: I have 2 spare CPU's (maybe not)
AFAIK, the more you run multithreaded apps, the more performance gain you get, isn't it? On which linux apps should one see more imporvement? I guess servers like apache and mysql can gain a lot - relatively - from hyperthreading, for example. -Original Message- From: Hetz Ben-Hamo [mailto:hetz;witch.dyndns.org] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:04 PM To: Boris Gorelik; Linux-IL mailing list Subject: Re: I have 2 spare CPU's (maybe not) Congratulations, You just bought Intel Hyperthreading processors. Don't expect any earth breaking performance from this (maximum 20% gain and even this is very rare).. Thanks, Hetz On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 10:48:50 +0200, Boris Gorelik wrote this is a VERY strange problem. My boss have bought a new computer with two Xeon CPUs (he loves dual machines, and we don't comlain about it ;) ). Last wednesday I've noticed that the top command showed 4 CPU's: [bgbg]$ top -bn1i | head 10:32am up 4 days, 1:03, 7 users, load average: 1.59, 1.37, 0.84 103 processes: 101 sleeping, 2 running, 0 zombie, 0 stopped CPU0 states: 89.0% user, 10.0% system, 0.0% nice, 0.0% idle CPU1 states: 0.1% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 99.0% idle CPU2 states: 0.0% user, 0.0% system, 0.0% nice, 100.0% idle CPU3 states: 0.0% user, 2.0% system, 0.0% nice, 97.0% idle Mem: 513400K av, 442124K used, 71276K free, 0K shrd, 20064K buff Swap: 1068240K av, 0K used, 1068240K free 213524K cached I have even opened the box to verify the number of the CPU's. Does anyone know anything about this behaviour? How should I treat the load fugures I get from top? System: RH7.3, kernel 2.4.18.3smp, top --version: top (procps version 2.0.7) Have a nice life, -- Boris Gorelik Sun, 10/Nov/2002, 5 Kislev 5763 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bidi support in Gtk
Which reminds me - I'm using Gimp on RH8.0, and for some reason I can't seem to be able to write hebrew in it. As far as I remember, when I used gtk 1.x, there was no such problem - I only needed to use biditext and the correct locale. But with the new gtk it seems even that doesn't help (neither with static nor with dynamic text rendering). Did anyone manage to get that to work properly? -Original Message- From: Eli Marmor [mailto:marmor;netmask.it] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:17 PM To: Linux IL Subject: Re: Bidi support in Gtk Where can I find the latest information about bidi support in Gtk? http://www.pango.org/ -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bidi support in Gtk
Oh well, just compiled the 1.3.10 developer version. It compiles only against gtk2, and works almost perfect with unicode hebrew, eventhough I couldn't get it to render stylish designer ttf hebrew fonts for some reason. But it accepts the standard ttf's copied form windows ;) Anyway, it's really neat and pretty stable, lots of imporvements. It builds along side 1.2.x gimp and lets you keep the stable one running as usual, so you should check it out. -Original Message- From: Meir Kriheli [mailto:meir;mksoft.co.il] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 5:45 PM To: Linux IL Subject: Re: Bidi support in Gtk On Sunday 10 November 2002 12:11, Dvir Volk wrote: Which reminds me - I'm using Gimp on RH8.0, and for some reason I can't seem to be able to write hebrew in it. As far as I remember, when I used gtk 1.x, there was no such problem - I only needed to use biditext and the correct locale. But with the new gtk it seems even that doesn't help (neither with static nor with dynamic text rendering). Did anyone manage to get that to work properly? I'm using the devel version of gimp, which uses GTK2 (1.3.9, gonna emerge 1.3.10 later tonight), and it works OK for me. -Original Message- From: Eli Marmor [mailto:marmor;netmask.it] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:17 PM To: Linux IL Subject: Re: Bidi support in Gtk Where can I find the latest information about bidi support in Gtk? http://www.pango.org/ -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. == To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Open Office VS. MS Office (performance)
Btw, just checked it on my workplace machine (win2k, PIII500, 256MB RAM. Why oh why don't they let me install linux here? :) ). It took 27 seconds (!) to start swriter and 2.5 seconds to start msword XP. -Original Message- From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:hetz;witch.dyndns.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:06 PM To: Ira Abramov; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Open Office VS. MS Office (performance) maybe I missed something, but are you saying your typing got up from 10 to 30 words a minute just by changing office suites? No, I'm saying that time to run the program, flipping pages (page up, page down), and the responsiveness was faster in word 2k then in open office.. Hetz = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Open Office VS. MS Office (performance)
I know it's not, but still, 27 seconds to load swriter? WTF? Are they compiling it on the fly? :-) and it's not much better on linux. Gimp for win loads in a reasonable time, more or less like paint shop pro (5-7 seconds), and it's not native either. -Original Message- From: Hetz Ben Hamo [mailto:hetz;witch.dyndns.org] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:25 PM To: Dvir Volk; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Open Office VS. MS Office (performance) On Tuesday 12 November 2002 14:24, Dvir Volk wrote: Btw, just checked it on my workplace machine (win2k, PIII500, 256MB RAM. Why oh why don't they let me install linux here? :) ). It took 27 seconds (!) to start swriter and 2.5 seconds to start msword XP. Not exactly a fair compare, you know.. You're using WIndows, and most of the DLL's that Office XP are already loaded into your RAM, which makes 2.5 secons load time... Thanks, Hetz To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?
AFAIK, this is the main goal of KDE 3.2 - increasing interface
responsiveness and launch speed, rather than bloating KDE with more
features.
KDE 3.1 offers some improvements in that field, too.
I have to tell you, though, that on a reasonable machine KDE runs almost
as fast as winXP, and in some sonses even faster.
-Original Message-
From: Ben-Nes Michael [mailto:miki;canaan.co.il]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 9:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Shaul Karl
Subject: Re: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?
I feel that Linux became slow in everything regarded to GUI.
way too slow. While it seems the Microsoft XP work much
faster ( the boot and the GUI )
Its not only the speed also the smoothness is better at Microsoft.
Something must be done :(
- Original Message -
From: Shaul Karl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:17 AM
Subject: [OT] Moving away from KDE to what?
In a continuation to the office suit launch speed
discussion it might
be interesting to look at the following thread from
debian-user. The
URL is
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/debian-user-200211/su
bject.html
and one should look for `[OT] Moving away from KDE to what?'.
I am aware to the fact that due to the Hebrew thing we need
{KDE,GNOME} much more then US users. I also didn't check
whether they
were discussing KDE2 or KDE3.
While on this subject, is it true that GUI is more
integrated into Win
kernel then the Linux kernel? Another side of the same coin is that
maybe X is much more {big,bloated} then Win.
For those who want the URL summarized, here is the first
message on
that thread:
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 10:08:05AM +0100, Alex Polite wrote:
I visited my mother last week to help her setup her DSL
connection.
While doing so I realized that her Windows 2000 350 MHz
box is a lot
more responsive then my Debian/GNU/KDE 500 MHz box.
So out goes KDE.
I tried out the minimalistic ratpoison an ion wms and
kind of like
them. At least they are fast. But they don't handle apps
like gimp
or
xmms to
well. Now I'm looking something in the middle ground.
Here are the requirements:
1) Must be able to maximize window to available space a la
enlightenment.
2) Must support multiple sequence key bindings a la emacs.
3) Must be fast.
4) Must be faster.
alex
--
Alex Polite
http://plusseven.com/gpg
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RE: Stallman article in Nana
Cheers. (it's just that ynet didn't want him :-P ) Btw, we're giving back the translation to GNU, that's the only thing he asked in return. -Original Message- From: Gilad Ben-Yossef [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Stallman article in Nana No, this is not a hoax... :-) http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=46299 Dvir, if you happen to be reading this - my hat off to you :-) Gilad. -- Gilad Ben-Yossef [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't use drugs - my dreams are frightening enough -- M. C. Escher = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OpenOffice Hebrew issues - your help, please
Has anyone else encountered the disappearing of the rtl and ltr buttons from the toolbar in swriter, after you've added them, once you catually try to use them? -Original Message- From: Shachar Shemesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OpenOffice Hebrew issues - your help, please Hi all, Just filed two bugs for OpenOffice BiDi support - 9730 and 9731 Please, your help is required. Please D/L the build of OpenOffice 643C for whatever platform, and give it a go. The bugs I opened were trivial, and resulted from ten seconds of intense use of the application through the intensive QA tool known as keyboard. Shachar = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa
Actually, if you read RMS's columns on his website, you'll see that he does not dislike Israel at all. His opinions are more or less equivalent to mainstream Israeli leftist opinions, he's definitely not anti Israeli. (read here for example: http://www.stallman.org/good-fences.html) -Original Message- From: Ely Levy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:27 PM To: Muli Ben-Yehuda Cc: Marc's List Subject: Re: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa Would that be the best thing happened to open source in israel in 8 years? Or would RMS just use it again to show how much he dislike israel? Ely Levy System group Hebrew University Jerusalem Israel On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: IBM is organizing a GNU/Linux Free Software and Open Source event, to take place on January 8th at Tel Aviv University and January 9th at IBM's Haifa Research Labs[1]. Speaking will be RMS (yesm, yes, *that* Stallman) and Theodore T'so, one of the kernel developers. Details: http://www-5.ibm.com/il/news/events/gnulinux/ Nana story: http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=49331 [1] I work here, if you attend, don't forget to say hi! -- Muli Ben-Yehuda The speed of light really is too slow nowdays. -- Alan Cox = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IBM Workshop with RMS and T'so in Tel-Aviv and Haifa
RMS is Jewish or at least his mother is. Hmm... At least we can now be sure that they won't give him any trouble entering israel, huh? http://www.haaretz.co.il/hasite/pages/ShArtPE.jhtml?itemNo=240135contra ssID=2subContrassID=13sbSubContrassID=0 To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Questions to RMS (was: Re: RMS, T'so and the LUG)
the RMS visit is getting closer and closer. As well, it appears, as the war in Iraq. I just hope the whole event won't be canceled. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: article in nana
We'll fix that to png, just for you :) -Original Message- From: Eli Marmor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 3:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: article in nana Doron Ofek wrote: Hi all New article in nana http://net.nana.co.il/Article/?ArticleID=51877sid=10 Bastards! They killed Gnu! They took the JPEG image of the Gnu from FSF site, converted it to GIF (!), and put it in the article! RMS put that as JPEG *INTENTIONALLY*: http://www.gnu.org/graphics/agnuhead.html Gif's Not Us !!! But at least, the Gnu is in a good company: Another images that were attached to the article, were: RMS with a flute (halilit) his autograph (hatima) his personal ad (looking for a love) a logo of sex, drugs and penguin (another type of love) Tux Ben-Gurion (not the airport, but the ex-prime-minister) -- Eli Marmor [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO, Founder Netmask (El-Mar) Internet Technologies Ltd. __ Tel.: +972-9-766-1020 8 Yad-Harutzim St. Fax.: +972-9-766-1314 P.O.B. 7004 Mobile: +972-50-23-7338 Kfar-Saba 44641, Israel = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Academia LeLashon / hacker jargon
-Original Message- From: Beni Cherniavsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Academia LeLashon / hacker jargon Hi [new to the list, just read some archives for last ~month], I had some thoughts on the 2002-12-07+ thread on some new words by the academy (hmm, that's not a hebrew word; sorry, I couldn't ;-). Now, I'm surely no poretz. While I can't deny beeing mahur lemahshevim, that misses the whole point. A hacker is one who hacks and produces hacks that others can enjoy. etmol hitmakarti lemahshevim al progname ?? raita et hahitmakrut lemhshevim hazot? ?!?! *Shudders*, no way! The point is not how do we say hacker but first how do we say hack in Hebrew. Any ideas? This reminds me of a word suggested by a coworker of mine a few years back. He meant it as a translator to Hacker, but what he actually meant, was of course a Cracker, making the usual mistake. Anyway, the word he suggested for Cracker is Partzan. I think it has a rather nice sound to it. About Hacker - ummm... Dunno. Lochem Hofesh Electroni? :) Naaah... To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: hebrew sugestion for hacker (was: Re: Academia LeLashon / hacker jargon )
The only two reasons I see not to adopt the actual word hacker are: A. the confusion with cracker (although it exists in English too). B. the inability to adjust it to any hebrew mishkal in order to make nice sounding verb for to hack (Mehacker, Hicker, Hickarti - no way) -Original Message- From: Guy Baruch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 3:52 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: hebrew sugestion for hacker (was: Re: Academia LeLashon / hacker jargon ) (note, in the following H should be pronounced like hebrew HEIT, or english kh ) I would say something phonetically close to the word hacker. I'd suggest HOKER (from MEHKAR) if it wasn't already taken by researcher. so, perhaps, HAKRAN (pronounced like curious, SAKRAN) ? -- -- regards +- -- + Guy Baruch , Plasma Laboratory, Weizmann Institue. +mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] + phone: 972-8-934-2211 +- -- They hang the man and flog the woman That steal the goose from off the common, But let the greater villain loose That steals the common from the goose. -- English folk poem, circa 1764 http://bostonreview.mit.edu/BR27.3/bollier.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
pdf to html/text conversion with hebrew support?
Hello. Is there any command line tool to convert pdf's to html or text, that supports hebrew? I've tried pdftohtml and pdftotext, which are based on xpdf, and couldn't read the result, although xpdf and ggv had no problem displaying the document i tried to convert. I've installed xpdf's hebrew language pack. did i do something wrong? or is there another way to do it? Thanks Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what it would cost to develop the Linux kernel from scratch?
actually, it's a very interesing question - how much did it actually cost to develop the kernel since day 1? what should be counted as cost? Diego Iastrubni wrote: 15 years and a revolution regarding the way the industry thinks about developing software? Kfir Lavi wrote: = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why not using global variables considered thread-safe ?
Amit Aronovitch wrote: Maxim Vexler wrote: Doesn't the kernel allocate each thread his own memory space (including for var's which are global for that thread)? No. In fact, common memory is the major benefit of threads (when compared to e.g. forking a new process). Global variables which don't get used simultanuously by more than one thread (e.g. some cases where only the main thread touches them) are no problem. However, when more than one thread might access them at the same time, you generally need to apply techniques like semphores or mutex to avoid data corruption. On a 1-CPU machine, when you have global variables such as ints or floats, isn't reading and writing them atomic, and needs no locking? what are the general rules this issue? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: File size limit?
I'm using large files with
-D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 as a compiler flag, and that's it.
i'm using open without any special flag, and without all the lseek64
calls, etc, even the sizeof off_t is 64bit automatically.
guy keren wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
I'm trying to make sure a program I'm writing works with files greater
than 4GB in length. In order to do that, I'm trying to create a sparse
file of this size. The program is this:
#define _LARGEFILE64_SOURCE
#include sys/types.h
#include sys/stat.h
#include unistd.h
#include fcntl.h
int main(int argc, char *argv[] )
{
int fd=open(argv[1], O_CREAT|O_WRONLY, 0755);
you need to add 'O_LARGEFILE' to the flags of 'open'.
if you search for EFBIG in the sources of your file system, you'll see
this instantly.
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Re: Yahoo Instant Messenger problem
i'm using Yahoo! on Gaim, and i have no problem. did you try that? btw, does their client currently support hebrew properly? in the past it didn't, and gaim did, so about a year ago i stopped checking. Shlomo Dubrowin wrote: I have been using Yahoo Instant Messenger on linux for a while, and a couple weeks ago, it stopped showing me when my buddies where online. People can message me, but I can't see they are online. I tried to reinstall, but the problem persists (there was no newer version of Yahoo Instant Messenger). Has anyone else seen this problem? Is there a fix? Are there logs somewhere that I should be looking at? I have no idea where a problem log for Yahoo IM would be stored. Any ideas? Thanx. Shlomo = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
libxml2 thread safety?
Hi everyone. I'm finding contradicting (and quite outdated) info on the net about the subject: how thread-safe is libxml2? does anyone have any experience with that? I'm using it for creating xml documents, but not parsing them, using the tree module. only one thread can access a specific document object at a time, so i'm not worried there, but i have many small documents open (possibly hundreds at once), and access to them on the global level is asynchronous. should i be worried? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL will defend you
Speaking of MySQL, version 5.0 has just gone beta, with long wished features like stored procedures, triggers and views. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/applications/0,39020384,39192964,00.htm Has anyone tried this new version yet? AFAIK, most ditros have hardly switched to MySQL 4.x Danny Lieberman wrote: guys and gals here's a great reason to buy a MySQL license. A prospective client told me he was choosing MySQL over Postgres and Firebird for a system application that bundles a db because: a) MySQL has the most market share b) We spoke to MySQL and they told us that they will give us legal defense against license infringements I dunno - this sounds like a protection racket to me - after all they created the exposure with their dual license policy. I gently told the prospect that: a) Support is a core produce for FOSS consultants and plenty of them out there to support both mysql and postgres b) dont buy because of mkt share - buy because of functionality and fit and support c) dont buy becuase of FUD = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PHP based Blog with Hebrew support?
take a look at this blog http://mp3enema.weblogs.us/ besides the fact that it's a kickass music blog, it's based on wordPress with semi-decent hebrew and rtl support. i'm sure someone with basic php knowhow can complete the giur in a heartbeat. Hetz Ben Hamo wrote: Hi People, I'm looking for a blog software which is written with PHP and has BiDi support. So far, all I found were several dozens of BLOG software packages without any RTL support at all. Any suggestions? Thanks, Hetz === To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fwd: Re: Fedora Core 4 DVD version]
I've had this problem too (i think it has something to do with certain SATA controllers), and the solution is profoundly bizarre and dumb, but it worked for me, and for many others: 1. load the CD/DVD 2. when the first boot menu appears, DO NOT press Enter or type any valid kernel name (like linux text/linux rescue) ** just type in some random gibberish, e.g. f45vtg4, and then press enter **. 3. you will be prompted by a message that says something like no such kernel image or something. 4. NOW just press Enter. TADA! amazingly the installer will load just fine. Why? I don't know, neither could i find a reasonable explanation. but it worked for me on two seperate machines. 5. Enjoy! Dvir Gilboa Davara wrote: On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 19:42 +0300, Oded Arbel wrote: On Tuesday, 21 בJune 2005 18:56, Gilboa Davara wrote: Did it detect your IDE chipset? I think that it did, but I can't really tell as it runs pretty fast by, and i can't page back or pause it. The box currently has Mandrake 10 installed on it, so I would consider it quite a shame if Fedora can't hack the IDE chipset. On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 18:40 +0300, Oded Arbel wrote: I downloaded the DVD version for fedora core 4, and tried to boot from it (on a relatively new P4 machine with a no-name DVD reader). on all boot modes available I get a kernel panic: VFS complain about not being able to mount root device NULL and suggest that I append root= to the command line. What gives ? I'm guessing I didn't do anything wrong, but probably I can get it to work if I can supply the correct root flag. what should I put in ? It also said RAMDISK: couldn't find a valid ramdisk image starting at 0 The last message seems to suggest a busted initrd image. DVD-burning problem? -- Gilboa Davara [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Nice Systems = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Parsing a hebrew website and maintaining the encoding to something readable
I'm not a python expert, but you can use libiconv to convert the text to
utf-8. I use it with C and PHP, it probably has pyhton bindings, and it
also has a small app called iconv, which you can pipe to get what you need.
if you're not sure what your source encoding will be in all cases, i'd
also recommend trying to detect the encoding from the html source, with
a regex, and passing the result to iconv as the source encoding.
Lior Kesos wrote:
Hello Gog (Gang of Geeks),
I'm writing a python script that is supposed to get some information
off a hebrew website having this in it's headers...
META HTTP-EQUIV=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=windows-1255
and
style
select{font-family:arial;font-size:13px}
input{font-family:arial;font-size:13px}
body{font-family:arial;font-size:13px}
table{font-family:arial;font-size:13px}
a{font-family:arial;text-decoration:'underline' ;
color:'#44';text-decoration: none}
a:hover{font-family:arial;color:'#FF0033';text-decoration: none}
a:active{font-family:arial;color:'#66';
text-decoration:'underline';}
#pptw{position:absolute;top:-20px;left:0px;}
/style
I'm connecting through urllib2.urlopen and using htmllib.HTMLParser to parse it.
I get a garbled output when I view the result.
Now I'm pretty weak on the why but I know I want to store my results
in utf8 because it's pretty much what everyone (mysql) uses to be
overpass these types of problems.
It there a way I can cast/transform encodings?
regards
Peace Love and Penguins -
Lior Kesos
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How can i tell if another process is writing to a file?
here's the situation: i have a file, and i want to open it only when no other process is writing to it. but i don't have control over the possibly writing process, so i can't do advisory or mandatory locking. basically, i want to treat a file received by scp only after the download is complete. of course i can write the file to /tmp or somewhere and then mv it to its destination directory when it's complete. but i was wondering if there's a more elegant soultion. is there anything i can do with stat or fcntl, or something along these lines? = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How can i tell if another process is writing to a file?
thanks after considering all the options, plus a couple that weren't mentioned here, i think i'll just go with the /tmp solution, and do the copying with rsync+ssh with --temp-dir so from the target directory's point of view, files appear complete at once. you're right, guys, it's the simplest way. Amos Shapira wrote: On 9/29/05, Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's the situation: i have a file, and i want to open it only when no other process is writing to it. but i don't have control over the possibly writing process, so i can't do advisory or mandatory locking. basically, i want to treat a file received by scp only after the download is complete. of course i can write the file to /tmp or somewhere and then mv it to its destination directory when it's complete. but i was wondering if there's a more elegant soultion. is there anything i can do with stat or fcntl, or something along these lines? I see that someone else mentioned inotify so I won't mention it again. But I'm writing to suggest a possible other solution - you say that you use scp to copy the file over - could you change it to use plain ssh? (scp is basically ssh+cat, more or less, especially if you are dealing with one file). If so then you might be able to just run your own program which copies the file content over and when it's done it can trigger the processing which waits for the copy to finish. Just an idea... --Amos === To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Spam: [Job Offer] Looking for a freelance Linux Web developer
Hi, For my new project, ILCU.com (it's a social event sharing site. shameless plug: can be used for LUG meetings :) ), I'm looking for a freelance web developer to help me out (it can grow to a full time job in a matter of weeks). I'm looking for someone creative, who knows his stuff around: PHP, MySQL, XML/DOM, AJAX JS in general, XSL, preferably good system knowledge, and of course HTML/CSS and standards. Feel free to pass this around. Cheers, Dvir Volk http://www.ilcu.com = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recovering a deleted file still opened by a running process
Ok, so I made a very stupid mistake and this is the situation: I have a running process with an open FD to a file, but the file was deleted by rm, hence it's not addressable from anywhere in the filesystem (ext3). once i close the process, the file will be deleted. Is there anyting i can do to recover the file and link it to another filename, so it won't be deleted when the process exits? -- Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recovering a deleted file still opened by a running process
thanks, worked like a charm. i didn't know the fd's were accessible
files. silly me...
ah, that's 4 days of processing (65GB!) rescued!
On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:04:02 +0200, Maxim Vexler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
On 3/19/06, Dvir Volk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, so I made a very stupid mistake and this is the situation:
I have a running process with an open FD to a file, but the file was
deleted by rm, hence it's not addressable from anywhere in the
filesystem (ext3). once i close the process, the file will be deleted.
Is there anyting i can do to recover the file and link it to another
filename, so it won't be deleted when the process exits?
Sure.
ls -la /proc/{PID}/fd | awk '/(deleted)/ { print cp $8 $10 }'
See which one(s) you need to relink and then just run the command.
* This on debian 3.1-sarge, other distributions might have a different
output for `ls -la` ?
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Dvir Volk
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Cheers,
Maxim Vexler (hq4ever).
Do u GNU ?
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Re: the great jerusalem firewall
that can actually be a good a argument for a bagatz in the unlikely event that this idiotic proposal will pass, that can hold off the implementation of this potential law for a few good months. On 3/2/07, Shlomo Solomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't want to get into a debate about porn. That's for each person to decide. BUT, I do think that there are LINUX issues here too. What happens if the law says you have to have a specific type of content filter and/or a specific way of identification for those who DO want porn to be available? You can bet that these will be Windows specific tools. On Friday 02 March 2007 12:44, Yonah Russ wrote: I'm confused... is there any parent that wants their kids to freely and easily access pornography? Halevai the UN would treat pornography like they treat nuclear weapons. -Yonah On 3/2/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We (more exactly *you*) are about to join Iran, China and North Korea. Are you ready ? http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3371412,00.html Peter P. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail (KDE 3.5.4) on LINUX Mandriva 2007 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dvir Volk CTO, ilcu.com http://www.ilcu.com
tv capture card recommendations anyone?
hi guys i want to install a tv capture card under linux. can anyone recommend an affordable card with a good driver sold in israel? cheers, dvirsk
Re: tv capture card recommendations anyone?
On 4/1/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For example, I found that MythTV and VLC no longer work with them. Since I'm writing my own little piece of software to work with the card, alsa support will be in it then :)
Re: Streaming Video Server
Red5 is an open Flash streaming server that is widely used in production environments. Since flash has become the de-facto standard, if you have a way to convert the content to FLV (ffmpeg does an excellent job at that), it's a great solution. http://osflash.org/red5 On 4/11/07, Arieh Skliarouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Are there any mature FOSS solutions for streaming video content? We use vlc for streaming to WMP, and Darwin for streaming 3gp streams to mobile phones and Linux platforms. -- Arieh
Re: Configuring Hebrew keyboard in KDE desktop
I simpy don't use KDE's configuration because of that, and use this combo: a. install kkbswitch, an alternative kde keyboard switcher http://kkbswitch.sourceforge.net/ b. simply add to .bashrc on my account: setxkbmap us,il -option grp:alt_shift_toggle kkbswitch On 5/22/07, Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: System: a PC with vanilla Debian Etch installation, with Gnome 2.14.3.6 and KDE 3.5.5 (package version 5:47). In Gnome, the Hebrew keyboard is properly configured, including LED to indicate which keyboard is active (Latin or Hebrew). However, I was not successful in doing the same in KDE. When I log into KDE desktop and use the KDE keyboard tool (Kxkb), I can configure Latin +Hebrew keyboard layouts, and switch between them when clicking on Kxkb's icon in the system tray (a flag). But I was not successful in getting it to recognize the Left Shift + Right Shift key combination, which I use to switch between layouts. Neither was I successful in getting the Scroll Lock LED to indicate the current keyboard layout. Both options exist in the Kxkb configure tab Xkb Options. The Enable xkb options checkbox is checked. Any advice about getting KDE to support Hebrew as well as Gnome? Thanks, --- Omer -- In civilized societies, captions are as important in movies as soundtracks, professional photography and expert editing. My own blog is at http://tddpirate.livejournal.com/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at http://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Player similar in function to Winamp.
Amarok is a very very good media player and indexer. http://amarok.kde.org/ On 7/15/07, Geoffrey S. Mendelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've been using WinAmp for almost 10 years. On Linux, I've always played MP3's using mpg123 or mpg321. However I want something closer to Winamp in function. When I use WinAmp, I open a directory, and it builds on the fly a list of songs in the directory and any subdirectory. They can be sorted by various options, but most of the time I leave it in the order the files exist in. Because of that I have my MP3 library arranged with a top level directory of mp3, mounted with automounter or SAMBA on windows. Under it is a directory named for each artist, and under that a directory for each album (yes, I keep them together by albums, something no one else seems to). Then under each album is the mp3 files, named track-title.mp3 . Some times I have two levels deep, such as /mp3/artist/special_album/cd_1/01-first_track.mp3. However what ever the number of levels is, I want to see a play list (created when I open it) of: first_track_title second_track_title last_track_title without having to deal with the directory structure and file names, the titles coming from the ID tags. The advantage of this is that I can just leave it play, or if I get to a track I don't like, or am not in the mood to listen to, I can either skip forward with the skip forward button, or mouse click on a song that is farther down in the playlist. Any suggestions? Thanks, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [EMAIL PROTECTED] N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Walla in Firefox
I saw that new UI version, it is fashionably (late) AJAX based, and it does support FireFox. On 7/18/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 18/07/07, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17/07/07, Tomer Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got their promise for working version that will got live in two months. Let's hope to get it working in mid-August or September. See here - http://mozilla.org.il/board/viewtopic.php?t=5287 Actually, I think that it _was_ working earlier this year. Lets continue to browse the site in Firefox, to keep the percentage up. That usually gets attention. Or just stop using their site and go somewhere else, as I used to do. I used to visit some of their forums years ago until it stopped working with Firefox, so I moved on to more cooperative (or less uncooperative, in Tapuz's case) sites. --Amos
Re: Someone is picking on my sshd
this is very common, those stupid bots do it on every open ssh port they find around. given proper usernames and passwords, they are pretty benign imho, but they flood the logs so much... personally, changing the ssh port on my home machine eliminated the problem completely. On 8/2/07, Ravid Baruch Naali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi List, Does any one else get this frequently? Some kind of automated program trying to log into my sshd, each time from a different IP address. off course (I hope) all of the users are invalid. Did any of you noticed it? and if so what are your solutions? Thanks in advance Ravid -- Ravid Baruch Naali E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mobile: 052-5830021 Home/Office:04-6732729
Re: Webmail like Gmail + encryption
I know that Zimbra did a gmail clone skin to their webmail recently called Zmail. http://www.zimbra.com/blog/archives/2007/06/we_call_it_zmail.html but I haven't tried it, and I don't know how well the search works for example. also it doesn't AFAIK have the conversation mode of gmail, which is what i like most about it. On 8/9/07, Kfir Lavi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to keep company emails secure and encrypted. I'm looking for a webmail program that is similar to Gmail. It don't have to own all the stuff, just to be productive. I would also want encryption. I want all the emails be encrypted automatically. What is the procedure for a user? should he take with him a usb private key? I'm looking for your comments on the idea. Tnx, Kfir
Re: Video codecs under debian
try VLC, it has all the codecs built in. On 8/23/07, Ori Idan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a debian machine with GNOME with w32codecs installed. I am trying to view .WMV files and get errors that I don't have the right codecs. I tried also viewing several AVI files and got an error that DivX 5 is not installed. What packages should I install? -- Ori Idan
Re: Commercial/FOSS C++ dev env for Linux?
Kdevelop is a really nice IDE and has great gdb integration, I prefer it over eclipse. On 9/1/07, Yotam Rubin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's the main issue? Is it that it's impossible to work with GDB because it crashes, or is it gdb's command line interface? If the problem is the latter, then have him use a decent frontend. I use emacs's gdbsrc mode, which integrates control of the debugger with your existing code buffers. Some people use external tools, but I prefer to integrate debugging with editing. Yotam, P.S. Have him use emacs22 On 9/1/07, Amos Shapira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, We are at this stage were the lead C++ developer needs to switch over our mostly ACE-based applications from Windows to Linux and needs a GOOD and CONVENIENT debugging environment for multi-threaded applications. He's giving a honest effort to use gdb but so far found it very hard to work with and at least once he managed to get gdb itself to crash. Can anyone recommend a REALLY USEFUL(TM) debugger for Linux, even cheap commercial ones (up to around 100$ per seat)? Please spare me the preaching about gdb being so great - that guy, who haven't touched Linux until last week, is already doing a tremendous effort to convert and needs any tool he can to help him. At least one of the target environments will be RHEL4 (due to customer's demands) but there is a good chance the Debian will be our internal SOE. Thanks, --Amos
getting another process id from within a c/cpp program?
hi i want to get another process' pid(s) from withing a program by process name, without executing a ps or pidof command. Is there another way of doing this other than iterating over /proc and reading all the process names? thanks,
Re: Web hosting services with servers in Israel or well-connected to IIX?
On 9/11/07, Omer Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My client is looking for companies, which specialize in Web hosting, and whose servers have good connections to Israeli ISPs. Try sweethome.co.il. I use them for shared hosting, but they also offer dedicated and VPS. If I recall correctly, they are a bit pricier than some of the ISPs. Anyhoo, dedicated hosting prices in israel are crap. If you bring your own server it will cost you more than a rented server with roughly the same specs abroad. Another question. How big is the difference in latency and throughput experienced by Israelis surfing to Web sites hosted in USA, by a low-cost Web hosting service vs. Web hosting service, which hosts sites in Israel? You can expect ~200ms latency from teh US, that is noticeable. You can host in europe if you want a bit better latency but without the ripoff prices in Israel. I did a project a couple of years where the main website was hosted in the US, and was meant for US and Israeli users alike. What we did eventually was put an image server in Israel, sync it with the images on the main server constantly, etc. It did get us a lot of speed gain since this app has a lot of images on it. In other words, is the price difference justified by quality of service? If your audience is Israeli, yes. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BARAK's DNS - Please read on
Is there any free (as in beer) good alternative DNS server in the country? This is starting to really piss me off as one of their clients. I used to hog another ISP's DNS server a couple of years back but they rightfully blocked it to outside users. On 9/19/07, Michael Lewinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I wrote the list a few days ago regarding BARAK's DNS misbehavior, and I have received a few answers, all of them confirming my findings: BARAK's default DNS servers, as defined by DHCP, are NOT working properly, so that several domains are either: a) not resolving at all (DNS timeout), b) resolving only after 30 seconds or so, or c) sometimes, resolving OK. I have worked out the stats, it seems that a) and b) account for between 80% and 90% of the DNS replies, which means LOTS of wasted time to the user (time=money ?). The culprits are the DNS servers 212.150.49.10 and 62.90.42.110. I'm not aware of the scope of this behavior, which domains are affected, or if it has been solved already. My testbed was http://petri.co.il, but my own domain (http://mbrcomp.co.il, in construction) also suffers from the same syndrome, as any BARAK subscriber can check. I have spent about 6 hours of talking and writing to BARAK support and system groups, and haven't seen the issue addressed at any practical level. I'm disappointed with their response, and the lack of interest of barak's business support team. I'm not suggesting any course of action, or endorsing any campaign, but this is a free country, and ranting is allowed and even encouraged... :^) Cheers, -- Michael Lewinger MBR Computers http://mbrcomp.co.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Audio development and /dev/dsp
i've worked with oss a bit a few months ago and didn't have your problem as far as i can remember. i don't see in my code anything unusual... did you open the device with O_RDONLY | O_NONBLOCK ? that's the only slightly relevant thing that comes to mind... i based my code (simple audio capture) on this example: http://manuals.opensound.com/developer/audiolevel.c.html On 9/28/07, ik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello list, I have a weird problem when I'm trying to use /dev/dsp using Alsa-oss. The first time I'm accessing /dev/dsp, the device works properly, and I have sound inside, however, when I try to access the device again, I'm getting sox: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy For example from the command play that uses that device. Please note that his happens regardless of the program that uses the /dev/dsp device. I also tried to use /dev/snd/pcm but without any luck (no error from using the descriptor, but no actual output is given. I can't figure out what am I missing. And I do need to use the /dev/dsp (for several reasons that are not controlled by me). I'm using Kubnut 7.04 amd64. Any pointers to look at well be more then welcome. Thanks, Ido -- http://ik.homelinux.org/ = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FOSS alternative to Exchange
Hi list, My company, a rapidly growing startup (right now about 15 employees, probably around 50 within a year), is looking to upgrade our current mail server to a full fledged Exchange or similar solution. Before we're surrendering to M$, I'd like to know if anyone knows of a full FOSS solution for our needs, possibly with someone to support it or at least install it and guide us, in Israel. our requirements are: Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from Win (Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our own dedicated server. Any advice? Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOSS alternative to Exchange
thanks, anyone has real experience in using them in a real business environment? On 10/11/07, Lior Okman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to checkout Scalix, OpenGroupware.org and openXchange, all of which have (more or less) all the features you mentioned. OpenXchange requires that you buy a connector for Outlook access, but it's pretty cheap. I think Scalix provides the Outlook connector for free, but requires that you use a premium user with the connector. The first 25 premium users in the community edition of Scalix are free, but when you need more premium users, you need to buy licenses for them. The number of standard users in Scalix is unlimited in the free (community) edition, but standard users only have email, and can't collaborate/share calendars. Access to mobile phones and PDAs might have to go through Funambol - you'll need to check that out. I had no need for this, so I didn't bother with it last time I looked around for an exchange replacement. Open-Xchange - http://www.open-xchange.com/header/community_area.html OpenGroupware.org - http://opengroupware.org/ Scalix - http://www.scalix.com/ Hope this helps, Lior Dvir Volk wrote: Hi list, My company, a rapidly growing startup (right now about 15 employees, probably around 50 within a year), is looking to upgrade our current mail server to a full fledged Exchange or similar solution. Before we're surrendering to M$, I'd like to know if anyone knows of a full FOSS solution for our needs, possibly with someone to support it or at least install it and guide us, in Israel. our requirements are: Mail; Calendar sharing; PDA Access; Access to all features from Win (Outlook access is a must) , Mac and Linux; Web Access; and our own dedicated server. Any advice? Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Realtek 8139 network card installation
they *should* work out of the box without any driver related issues. just configure the network options and that's it. if you're using the fedora gui, it's really easy, if not, use system-config-network On 10/15/07, Eran Levy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm having some problems with my current network card and my friend gave me a Realtek 8139 card to install until I'm buying a new one. Anyway...before I'm installing the Realtek card, I've 2 questions (it's urgent): 1. Do you know if the Realtek 8139 drivers are already embedded in Fedora Core kernel? 2. Can someone help me and write in a few points how do I make it work? Thanks, Eran = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Browser usage statistics
i wouldn't treat w3schools' stats as representing anything but the trends among web developers, most of whom probably have 3 browsers installed anyway. you can take a look at this stat from thecounter.com, which is embedded in all sorts of sites: http://www.thecounter.com/stats/2007/October/browser.php it puts IE at around 75% of the market, which is what i would predict if i had to guess. In Israel, of course, things are different, and then there's the chicken/egg thing where webmasters who abuse FF users claim that the usage is low, etc. On 11/3/07, Gabor Szabo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The trend is there but IE being under 50% is too early I think. I am sure you know this site: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp This seems to indicate IE being 57% or so. Gabor -- Gabor Szabo http://www.szabgab.com/ Perl Training in Israel http://www.pti.co.il/ Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/profile?viewProfile=key=82476 = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: recommended web development environment?
.. Can anyone recommend another convenient editor for HTML and CSS files? KDE has Quanta or Kate. It's the same editor essentially if you're just looking for highlighting, but quanta has a lot features for web developers. I keep trying more serious web IDEs but keep returning to quanta in the end. From experience, if you're playing with CSS and HTML files directly, you're doing something wrong. Use a CMS. Be it Wordpress, Joomla or what have you. It all depends on your needs, and I've written a few custom CMSes for different projects that weren't suitable for the let's slap an open CMS on it approach. but in this case, a small business site, you're probably right. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source visualization program
Hi, Can anyone recommend a good source visualization program for C++ (and Linux of course)? Output format doesn't really matter, but it needs to read a very complex project and display classes, members, hierarchy, dependencies, etc. KDevelop has something very primitive for hierarchy, but I need something more powerful. Thanks Dvir = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: wmv in linux
i managed to play this live video feed http://video.tau.ac.il/Lectures/INSS/2007/30_07_07/30_07_07.asx with VLC 0.8.6a without any problem, including audio perhaps you should build VLC from scratch or update it? On Dec 15, 2007 5:17 PM, Erez D [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi i am a TAU student and want to watch the lectures i missed via video.tau.ac.il the site supports only MSIE, but i was able, by viewing the source using MSIE, to get the urls (mms) of the videos i tried playing it with mplayer or vlc, it seems it is wmv9. i could play the video, but not the audio the audio type is 0xA how can i play the audio ? (can i take DLLs from WMplayer and use with mplayer ? if so where to put them ?) another issue is, when using MSIE there is an option to play normal, fast or slow speed, without altering the pitch of the voice. however, downloading the file and using WMPlayer to play it, does not let me change the speed or even skip forward or backward the only other software i know that enables playing fast or slow without changing the pitch is mythtv's internal player but AFAIk, it does not play wmv9 i guess if i could play the audio with mplayer, i could use mencoder to transcode to a format mythtv player can play. so: 1. how can i play the audio ? 2. any linux software other then mythtv which can play faster or slower with voice, without changing the pitch ? thanks, erez. = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
good python IDE for linux?
hi all i'm starting a python project, and need a good IDE with debugging and all (GUI based) eclipse pydev seems a bit too heavy for my taste and CPU, kdevelop doesn't have debugging (at least by default). any personal recommendations?
Re: site freezing - probably java related
I had a similar problem with flash after installing flash for corssover office. some sites with flash would just crash or freeze FF. it seems that cxoffice had replaced the linux flash plugin,and that caused it. removing the cxoffice plugin from the firefox directory solved it. On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Amit Aronovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Confirmed on Debian Iceweasel 3.0.3 . On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 12:15 PM, David Ronkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Flashblock Firefox plugin to prevent such flash issues - very recommended if sbdy still not using it. David Installed this and checked - does not help. However, some binary search testing with the plugins and extensions reveals that the freeze occurs IFF the Java plugin is enabled. file: libjavaplugin_oji.so (Java 6 1.6.0.10) comes from Debian package sun-java6-bin version 6-10-2 I disable this and site does not hang... Amit
Re: backing up mysql database (mysqldump)
1. phpMyAdmin can do dumps, but not automatically IIRC. 2. you can put a dump command in your crontab, and then another one that uploads the resulting file by ftp somewhere. but then you'll also have to set a .netrc and i don't know if you can do that on your server. 3. easiest thing - just create a web script (with proper authentication) that dumps your db to the browser (e.g. ?php if ($_GET['p'] = 'my_strong_password') system(mysqldump bla bla); ?), then call it from your backup machine in a cron job with wget. put it under https if you really want to be secure. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:03 PM, Uri Evenhen More [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Friends, I am hosting my website on Servage.net, where I don't get SSH access. I need to run mysqldump in order to backup my mysql database to SQL format (I need the backup in SQL format). Is there a way to run mysqldump without using SSH access? Does phpmyadmin support this? They also have cron scripts enabled - can I put such a command in my cron job? Please help. Thanks, Uri Evenhen More (Ore) Mobile Phone: +972-50-9007559 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Blog: http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ Now working on version l.l of the pie - defined as o/o or olo or lol. I discovered the number of dots is very important - l..l is not equal to l.l; and l is not equal to l. I am working on dividing your numbers and numbering your primes. it's very complicated, since every number can be considered prime, not prime, integer and irrational. remember there is at least one more root to every equation than what you previously thought, for example there are at least pie square roots of the number pie. Update: moved my blog to http://www.speedy.net/uri/blog/ . I decided to remove other content from this website. [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] - This message is confidential - [o-o-o-oo-o-o-o][o-o-o-oo-o-o-o] = To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [SOLVED] Keyboard Layout Switching in KDE 3.5.x
i did it for years using xkb settings. anyway, you'll be glad to know that in kde 4.1 this finally works the way it should. although kde 4 has made me switch to gnome and i don't see myself coming back anytime soon (cue flame wars. oh, it's not /. nevermind) On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Amichai Rotman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I was finally able to fix the most annoying (to me) feature in KDE: Switching between Hebrew and English layouts using the left side Alt-Shift key combination... I am sure some of you out there are still having this problem (clicking the flag on the system tray to switch between layouts), so I thought I would share the solution I found (based on the following comment to the bug): Bug 99009: Keyboard Layout - Switching lang groups does not workhttp://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99009#c9 I am running KDE 3.5.10 on Kubuntu 8.0.4.1.Here are the steps I took (broken down for the newbie): 1. Open KControl 2. enter 'key' in the search box 3. Click on 'Keyboard Layout' on the top list, then on the bottom. 4. Uncheck the 'Enable keyboard layouts' box and click OK. 5. Open a terminal window. 6. Edit the following file with your favorite text editor: ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals (no need to become root (sudo)) 7. Look for the following line: Switch to Next Keyboard Layout= and change whatever is after the '=' to Alt+Shift_L;Alt+Shift_R 8. Save the file and exit the editor. 9. Repeat steps 1-3 and re-check the box you've unchecked instep 4. 10. That's it! try it. I know it is very newbie-like for most of you, but I wanted to make sure the procedure comes across the right way... so please don't flame me ;-) I hope I helped a least one of you out there... .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::.
Re: few questions
1.as root run: yum groupinstall Development Tools Development Libraries should take care of all the things you need to compile stuff. 2. try using screen to run you program, and then you can access it from anywhere via ssh. btw, it's not FC10, but F10. they removed the Core from the name. On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Erez D erez0...@gmail.com wrote: hi. 1. in ubuntu, if i type g++ and don't have it installed, it will tell me to sudo apt-get install pkg-somthing can i know that easily in fc10 what yum command i need to get g++ ? (or any other file) 2. i have a program running on a remote linux-box (fc10) on vt1 (i.e. alt-ctrl-f1). can i connect to that vt withough access to the kbd and mouse ( i.e. via ssh from remote) 10x, erez.
Re: digital TV cards
does receiving digital broadcast actually work with Yes? I was under the impression that it's all encrypted. how do you get past that? On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:20 AM, Ohad Levy ohadl...@gmail.com wrote: if you are talking about SDTV, I would recommend the PVR series (MPEG2 in Hardware), and if you are planning to have 3, you could consider the PVR-500 which has 2 analogue inputs in one pci card. Ohad On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:50 PM, Shlomo Solomon shlomo.solo...@gmail.com wrote: I'm planning to move from HOT to YES which means I'll have to replace 3 analogue TV cards with digital cards. Does anyone on the list have good experience with a CHEAP digital TV card that works properly in Linux and YES? My existing cards are no-name saa 7130 (if I remember correctly) and work out-of-the-box in Mandriva. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: digital TV cards
why not plug them to the A/V out of the yes box? that's how i watch TV on my machine. since you won't be able to tune anyway (apart from setting an IR device to control the yes box), why waste money on new cards? I doubt the quality difference is worth it. On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Shlomo Solomon shlomo.solo...@gmail.com wrote: Firstly, thanks to Ohad, Dvir and Geoffrey for answering. Secondly, I see from all three answers that my question was mis-understood, so I'll re-phrase. If I move from HOT to YES, I want to continue watching TV on the computer screen using a Linux friendly TV card. I'm referring to 3 cards for 3 seperate computers (not 3 signals to be handled by 1 computer). I don't intend to do anything illegal (bypassing encryption) - I would have a YES MEMIR next to each computer and the TV card would be fed from the MEMIR. Since my existing TV cards are analogue only (and include a tuner), I now plug them into the HOT antenna plug and they work out-of-the-box. But that's obviously not going to be the case with YES digital signals. So to summarize, I'm looking for CHEAP, Linux friendy, YES friendly digital TV cards that can connect to the YES MEMIR and provide a TV signal on my Linux computers. Tanks again -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Sent by KMail 1.9.9 (KDE 3.5.9) on LINUX Mandriva 2008.1 = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: israelt TV online (again)
a bit off topic, but just saw it and it's great news for desktop linux users in israel: ynet have switched to flash based videos on the site, that actually work in FF. example: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3643274,00.html On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm trying to follow the links posted on the thread at http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg46408.html (both by me and Ira) but they don't seem to work any more (the one posted by me doesn't include Channel 1/2/10 any more and the ones posted by Ira just make mplayer come back with no stream). Are there any other ways to view Israeli TV news online? I understand that mako.co.il is supposed to be the new Channel 2 online presence but it requires Windows Media player. Installing GreaseMonkey mako script to extract the url (http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/36207) does't work. My environment: Ubuntu 8.04 i386 Thanks, --Amos = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: israelt TV online (again)
from personal knowledge about the way stuff works there, I doubt this will change anything. On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 3:52 AM, Amos Shapira amos.shap...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/5 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: In addition to finding workaround, take the time and write to mako.co.il. They will not change if we do not let them know that we Done. Also tested and included complaint about not being usable through mobile phone. Cheers, --Amos PS - They are still stuck in the 90's with a Make this your home page button :) = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: israelt TV online (again)
Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of Zimbabwe's? I highly doubt getting their site done right is possible as well. On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:41 AM, sara fink sara.f...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/5 Oleg Goldshmidt p...@goldshmidt.org: Oh, lots! Ben-Gurion Airport, for one, e.g., http://www.iaa.gov.il/Rashat/he-IL/Airports/BenGurion/ and just about everything inside, notably the departures/arrivals/schedules pages. I just got a reply back from them. Due to many pniot from the public, there is a new website planned for 2010! Best joke. I bet that a nice letter to rashut sdot Hateufa and Misrad Hatahbura will move things faster. After all, we are in election period. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: israelt TV online (again)
On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/1/6 Dvir Volk dvir...@gmail.com: Aren't the IAA the same bunch of losers who can't even get their job done, and got Israel's traffic safety ranking down to the level of Zimbabwe's? [citation needed] citation: http://www.calcalist.co.il/local/articles/0,7340,L-3172583,00.html you can get the complete list here [ms excel]: http://www.faa.gov/safety/programs%5Finitiatives/oversight/iasa/media/iasaws.xls other category 2 countries: belize, bangladesh, congo, gambia, haiti, nicaragua, swaziland. = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
Re: Qt to become LGPLed
Great news. Now if they could only make it more lightweight... You don't feel it in Linux, but having distributed Qt with a commercial Windows app, It's quite a pain to have your app weighing in at over 7M for just the GUI module. That's not a lot in today's world, but it's still heavy. don't know how much further you can reduce it technically though. Still, we chose it over other options (cross platform-ability was the major plus) and were pretty happy with it. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Shlomi Fish shlo...@iglu.org.il wrote: Qt (the cross-platform C++ GUI+other things library used by KDE and other applications) is going to be made available under the LGPL: * http://osnews.com/story/20769/Nokia_To_Add_LGPL_to_Qt_Licensing_Model * http://www.computerworlduk.com/community/blogs/index.cfm?blogid=14entryid=1738 * http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/14/1312210 * http://lwn.net/Articles/314898/ This is good news for developers who wish to develop for Qt or KDE and not be required to release their applications under a GPL-compatible licence (or pay for a commercial licence of Qt). I always thought that after Nokia bought Troll Tech (the company behind Qt), it was not their best interest to sell Qt licences commercially, but rather to make Qt as ubiquitous as possible. I now see that I was right. Regards, Shlomi Fish -- - Shlomi Fish http://www.shlomifish.org/ Stop Using MSIE - http://www.shlomifish.org/no-ie/ maukeI'm not interested in what you're doing; what are you trying to achieve? PerlJam mauke: I'm trying to achieve world peace and this regex is the last thing standing in my way! ;) = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il = To unsubscribe, send mail to linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il with the word unsubscribe in the message body, e.g., run the command echo unsubscribe | mail linux-il-requ...@cs.huji.ac.il
