Re: General Election
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: Oh I did ... In general I find Billy Braggs ability to produce 'something you could mistake for music' roughly equal to Craig Charles' ability to tell a joke. .. although he was passibly OK in Red Dwarf. Billy Bragg was in Red Dwarf? I never noticed... yeah, remember he was the one that sucked emotions out of everyone he encountered ;-) -- Greg McCarrollhttp://217.34.97.146/~gem/
Re: General Election
Barbie [easynet] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand folk singers sometime place a finger over their ear whilst singing. Perhaps Mr Bragg should try that. I doubt it would improve his singing, but at least it would stop him twanging that guitar ... I don't think you could call Billy Bragg a folk singer. His more aptly titled moniker of Bard of Barking is probably more representative of what he does. Tells stories set to music. he might not be the best singer in the world, but then it never stop Bob Dylan or Jimi Hendrix. each to their own I suppose. Look, I'm not saying Bragg's voice is pretty. But his pitching is accurate, his tunes are good, his songwriting is immaculate and you can tell what he's singing. Same goes for his Bobness too come to that. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: General Election
From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look, I'm not saying Bragg's voice is pretty. But his pitching is accurate, his tunes are good, his songwriting is immaculate and you can tell what he's singing. Same goes for his Bobness too come to that. You can tell what Bob is singing! I had to get the Dylan Songbook to learn the words ;) Barbie PS: I have several albums by Billy and Bob, but I still don't class them as folk singers. The Houghton Weavers, The Spinners, The Knigston Trio, My missus now they're folk singers.
Re: General Election
Barbie [easynet] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Look, I'm not saying Bragg's voice is pretty. But his pitching is accurate, his tunes are good, his songwriting is immaculate and you can tell what he's singing. Same goes for his Bobness too come to that. You can tell what Bob is singing! Most of the time, yeah. I had to get the Dylan Songbook to learn the words ;) Barbie PS: I have several albums by Billy and Bob, but I still don't class them as folk singers. Bob was definitely a folk singer once. The early acoustic stuff is definitely folk, and it informs the later electric stuff too. Bragg's usually not a folksinger, but he's a good singer of folk songs on occasions. The Houghton Weavers, The Spinners, The Knigston Trio, My missus now they're folk singers. Me, on a good night. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
Re: General Election
On Sat, 02 Jun 2001, Piers Cawley wrote: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 01 Jun 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: There's a fine version of it to this tune by Billy Bragg and Dick Gaughn on BB's mini-album The Internationale. undef error - Can't locate auto/Billy/Bragg/tune.al in @INC ... Then I suggest you try using your ears. Oh I did ... In general I find Billy Braggs ability to produce 'something you could mistake for music' roughly equal to Craig Charles' ability to tell a joke. .. although he was passibly OK in Red Dwarf. I understand folk singers sometime place a finger over their ear whilst singing. Perhaps Mr Bragg should try that. I doubt it would improve his singing, but at least it would stop him twanging that guitar ... -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: General Election
From: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] I understand folk singers sometime place a finger over their ear whilst singing. Perhaps Mr Bragg should try that. I doubt it would improve his singing, but at least it would stop him twanging that guitar ... I don't think you could call Billy Bragg a folk singer. His more aptly titled moniker of Bard of Barking is probably more representative of what he does. Tells stories set to music. he might not be the best singer in the world, but then it never stop Bob Dylan or Jimi Hendrix. each to their own I suppose. Barbie.
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Re: General Election
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:25:21AM +0100, Robin Szemeti wrote: Oh I did ... In general I find Billy Braggs ability to produce 'something you could mistake for music' roughly equal to Craig Charles' ability to tell a joke. .. although he was passibly OK in Red Dwarf. Billy Bragg was in Red Dwarf? I never noticed... dha :-) -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ Well, sure, being a ruthless godless dictator is fun, but it's all about the fans! - Public Broadcast of His Imperial Majesty, Dimension 431-q-fhd
General Election
You'll have noticed, I hope, that next Thursday is both our June meeting and a General Election. I hope you'll all go and vote before the meeting so you don't have to dash off before the polling stations close :) Someone (Paul?) mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it might be nice if we could all go somewhere after the pub to watch the results come in and... er... celebrate another victory for the christian democrats. If anyone still thinks this is a good idea, then I'm happy to offer my house as a venue for this. I suggest we leave the pub at about 9:30pm and get the tube back to mine, stopping at Threshers en route. There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Vive la Revolution! Comrade Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: General Election
At 10:32 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote: I suggest we leave the pub at about 9:30pm and get the tube back to mine, stopping at Threshers en route. Can't we just go to another pub that's got Peter Snow on the telly? There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Don't do that Dave. It's bad to drink alone. Vive la Revolution! Sounds like the tag line of a shampoo commercial. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: General Election
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: You'll have noticed, I hope, that next Thursday is both our June meeting and a General Election. I hope you'll all go and vote before the meeting so you don't have to dash off before the polling stations close :) Someone (Paul?) mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it might be nice if we could all go somewhere after the pub to watch the results come in and... Ah, its been ages since I had an ``election night party'', COUNT me in! (geddit, _count_, as in vote count! *lol*, i kill myself ;-) ) er... celebrate another victory for the christian democrats. If anyone still thinks this is a good idea, then I'm happy to offer my house as a venue for this. I suggest we leave the pub at about 9:30pm and get the tube back to mine, stopping at Threshers en route. Is that so you can pick up some champagne, for labour's particular brand of socialism ;-) Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
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Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 10:32 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote: I suggest we leave the pub at about 9:30pm and get the tube back to mine, stopping at Threshers en route. Can't we just go to another pub that's got Peter Snow on the telly? There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Don't do that Dave. It's bad to drink alone. I'm not prepared to bet that he'll be allowing himself in. Does it count if you know all the verses to Raise Your Banner High instead? Can I blag a bed again, what with the Iterative meeting the next day... -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
RE: General Election
From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:04 AM Jonathan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 10:32 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote: I suggest we leave the pub at about 9:30pm and get the tube back to mine, stopping at Threshers en route. Can't we just go to another pub that's got Peter Snow on the telly? There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Don't do that Dave. It's bad to drink alone. I'm not prepared to bet that he'll be allowing himself in. Oh. I know at least the first verse and chorus. And both tunes :) Does it count if you know all the verses to Raise Your Banner High instead? Can I blag a bed again, what with the Iterative meeting the next day... No. And yes. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: General Election
* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: What! You mean go south of the river after dark. I'm afraid I'm not properly insured for that kind of excursion :) what sort of insurance do you need? insurance against culture? insurance against clearner air? insurance against nice restaurants and bars? insurance against safer streets? bah, south london is where its at ;-) Nice offer, though if I took it up my chances of making it home at all would be very slim. Does anyone know what time the result is usually announced (and 38 days is not an acceptable answer, this isn't Florida!) its not really announced at a specific time IIRC, it is a final result when one party has enough people to `form a government', i.e. a majority -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: General Election
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 10:32:55AM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: You'll have noticed, I hope, that next Thursday is both our June meeting and a General Election. I hope you'll all go and vote before the meeting so you don't have to dash off before the polling stations close :) Vote Early, Vote Often! Someone (Paul?) mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it might be nice if we could all go somewhere after the pub to watch the results come in and... er... celebrate another victory for the christian democrats. If anyone still thinks this is a good idea, then I'm happy to offer my house as a venue for this. I suggest we leave the pub at about 9:30pm and get the tube back to mine, stopping at Threshers en route. Sounds like a cunning plan. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced operating system in the world which we decided to release incomplete just for a laugh
RE: General Election
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:10 AM i'll be with you standing on his doorstep Jonathan, especially as it was written by a member of the irish republic brotherhood ;-), and we all know what results are important on thursday night - thats right the northern irish ones! [1] [1] disclaimer ... in case anyone doesn't know me, statements i make about northern irish politics are generally made with tongue in cheek In fact, Greg is _such_ an expert on the Northern Ireland[1] electoral system that he fails to remember that the votes aren't counted until Friday morning :) Dave... [1] The use of the term Northern Ireland is simply a convenient shorthand and should in no way be taken as a endorsement of the existance of such a region. -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
General Election - additional idea
If we are at Dave's we could have a little competition, quite simply, write a CGI script that takes 2 or 3 numbers (cons seats, lab seat and others) and display some sort of visualisation of the numbers in classic Peter Snow style. The winner is the one judged coolest by the people at Dave's house. All scripts must be written in Perl and URLs should be submitted on the day. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: General Election
On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: Someone (Paul?) mentioned a couple of weeks ago that it might be nice if we could all go somewhere after the pub to watch the results come in and... Sounds like an evil flan. Especially as I'm holding up my end of the bargain (right, MBM?) and coming to my first ever london-pm meet. Anyone offering crash space for a small purple person would be most appreciated. L. Zaphod, this is a very large drink. Hi...
Re: General Election
* Cross David - dcross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 11:10 AM i'll be with you standing on his doorstep Jonathan, especially as it was written by a member of the irish republic brotherhood ;-), and we all know what results are important on thursday night - thats right the northern irish ones! [1] [1] disclaimer ... in case anyone doesn't know me, statements i make about northern irish politics are generally made with tongue in cheek In fact, Greg is _such_ an expert on the Northern Ireland[1] electoral system that he fails to remember that the votes aren't counted until Friday morning :) did i specify a time that i'd be leaving your house? ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: General Election - additional idea
* Robert Shiels ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: If we are at Dave's we could have a little competition, quite simply, write a CGI script that takes 2 or 3 numbers (cons seats, lab seat and others) and display some sort of visualisation of the numbers in classic Peter Snow style. The winner is the one judged coolest by the people at Dave's house. All scripts must be written in Perl and URLs should be submitted on the day. I like this idea - is there anywhere that is providing this data in an easily slurpable format so that the script can actually work without user intervention? we could agree that a particular URL would return the data, stick a CGI in there, returning dummy information and then on the night change that CGI, that way none of the visualisation scripts would require changing -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: General Election - additional idea
* Greg McCarroll ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I like this idea - is there anywhere that is providing this data in an easily slurpable format so that the script can actually work without user intervention? we could agree that a particular URL would return the data, stick a CGI in there, returning dummy information and then on the night change that CGI, that way none of the visualisation scripts would require changing i should of said, change that CGI to scrape the information from somewhere -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: General Election
There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Is this the modern doctored version or the traditional version? Barbie.
RE: General Election
From: Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:46 PM There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Is this the modern doctored version or the traditional version? The New Labour version starts like this: The people's flag is lightest pink, It's not as red as you might think. I prefer it sung to the original tune (The White Cockade) as opposed to the christmas carol dirge that is most used these days. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: General Election
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:55:20PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: The New Labour version starts like this: The people's flag is lightest pink, It's not as red as you might think. How things have changed. 'Mr Heseltine, whose mane of golden hair has given him the nickname of Tarzan, apologised for waving the ceremonial mace around his head like a mediaeval battle axe. I was unwarrantably provoked by the singing of the Red Flag, he said.' http://www.guardiancentury.co.uk/1970-1979/Story/0,6051,106906,00.html The internationale is a better song though. .robin.
Re: General Election
Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Is this the modern doctored version or the traditional version? How about: The working class can kiss my arse I've got the foreman's job at last. Or The people's flag is deepest puce with fleurs de lys in pale chartreuse -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
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Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 1:46 PM There will, of course, be an entrance test. Anyone who doesn't know the first verse and chorus of The Red Flag will not be admitted :) Is this the modern doctored version or the traditional version? The New Labour version starts like this: The people's flag is lightest pink, It's not as red as you might think. I prefer it sung to the original tune (The White Cockade) as opposed to the christmas carol dirge that is most used these days. Hmm... how the hell do you fit it to The White Cockade? No matter how I try it it still sounds bloody ugly. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
RE: General Election
From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:27 PM Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [The Red Flag] I prefer it sung to the original tune (The White Cockade) as opposed to the christmas carol dirge that is most used these days. Hmm... how the hell do you fit it to The White Cockade? No matter how I try it it still sounds bloody ugly. There's a fine version of it to this tune by Billy Bragg and Dick Gaughn on BB's mini-album The Internationale. If you haven't tracked down an mp3 by next week, remind me and I'll play it to you. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: General Election
At 14:23 01/06/01 +0100, you wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:55:20PM +0100, Cross David - dcross wrote: The New Labour version starts like this: The people's flag is lightest pink, It's not as red as you might think. How things have changed. Yikes! Changed for the better, apparently. The idea of Prescott getting hold of the mace is truly alarming. -- Jonathan Peterson Technical Manager, Unified Ltd, 020 7383 6092 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: General Election
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:24:57PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: How about: The working class can kiss my arse I've got the foreman's job at last. Or The people's flag is deepest puce with fleurs de lys in pale chartreuse Pah! Sing to the Motherland, home of the free, Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong. O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people, To Communism's triumph lead us on! -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced operating system in the world which we decided to release incomplete just for a laugh
Re: General Election
On or about Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:39:03PM +0100, David Cantrell typed: Pah! Sing to the Motherland, home of the free, Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong. O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people, To Communism's triumph lead us on! Humbug! The people's flag is black as night From top to bottom, left to right. What better symbol for our cause Then torn umbrellas, old black drawers, And Guinness, gowns and pirate flags Darth Vader's cloak and oily rags: Oh, wave it proudly o'er your head, The flag that's better dead than red!
Re: General Election
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:24:57PM +0100, Piers Cawley wrote: How about: The working class can kiss my arse I've got the foreman's job at last. Or The people's flag is deepest puce with fleurs de lys in pale chartreuse Pah! Sing to the Motherland, home of the free, Bulwark of peoples in brotherhood strong. O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people, To Communism's triumph lead us on! sing all you want, it will be you lot who have egg on your faces when a unionist/conservative coalition government is in power in a few weeks, ohhh yes ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: General Election
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 02:47:18PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: sing all you want, it will be you lot who have egg on your faces when a unionist/conservative coalition government is in power in a few weeks, ohhh yes Hmmmph. paul daniels if that happens, I'll leave the country /short annoying baldie -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ Rip, Mix, Burn, unless you're using our most advanced operating system in the world which we decided to release incomplete just for a laugh
Re: General Election
From: Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:30 PM Subject: RE: General Election From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 2:27 PM Cross David - dcross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [The Red Flag] I prefer it sung to the original tune (The White Cockade) as opposed to the christmas carol dirge that is most used these days. Hmm... how the hell do you fit it to The White Cockade? No matter how I try it it still sounds bloody ugly. There's a fine version of it to this tune by Billy Bragg and Dick Gaughn on BB's mini-album The Internationale. If you haven't tracked down an mp3 by next week, remind me and I'll play it to you. Have it on virgin vinyl with free limited edition 7 thanks :) Barbie.
RE: General Election
From: Barbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 3:56 PM [The Red Flag] There's a fine version of it to this tune by Billy Bragg and Dick Gaughn on BB's mini-album The Internationale. If you haven't tracked down an mp3 by next week, remind me and I'll play it to you. Have it on virgin vinyl with free limited edition 7 thanks :) Ooh. Shiny! What's on the 7? Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
RE: General Election
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: There's a fine version of it to this tune by Billy Bragg and Dick Gaughn on BB's mini-album The Internationale. undef error - Can't locate auto/Billy/Bragg/tune.al in @INC ... -- Robin Szemeti Redpoint Consulting Limited Real Solutions For A Virtual World
Re: General Election
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 01 Jun 2001, Cross David - dcross wrote: There's a fine version of it to this tune by Billy Bragg and Dick Gaughn on BB's mini-album The Internationale. undef error - Can't locate auto/Billy/Bragg/tune.al in @INC ... Then I suggest you try using your ears. -- Piers Cawley www.iterative-software.com
