Re: LyX Promotion

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote:
 While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that Pavel 
 hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they seem to think 
 of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, a program which 
 helps professors and students write a thesis or articles. (To be even more 
 narrow, it seems like many think it is for math and physics people to write a 
 thesis or article.) Which is to say, a specialized program with an incredibly 
 small user base and use.

 While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I don't think anyone would argue 
 that many of the developers and users are within academics), it significantly 
 understates LyX's appeal, especially if you consider the enhancements 
 available in the

To the extent that the stereotype is true, it may also be worth
considering what the reasons are for this, and if it is reasonable to
remove those reasons. Off-the-top of my head the following could be
issues.

1) Compile Errors. Normal users aren't used to dealing with compile
errors and shouldn't be expected to fix them. Even I don't like
dealing with compile errors all that much.
1a) Perhaps we could do some sort of bisect to determine where the
error is (either over the file itself or some fine-grained history).
1b) Perhaps we could improve the latex export so that compile errors
only occur if the user uses ERT. Particularly with beamer, this isn't
always the case.

2) Compatibility with Word. Typical users expect to be able to open
and save word documents.
2a) It is easy to bundle import/export filters so that the users don't
have to manually set up OOXML and ODF. This export wouldn't work as
well as e.g. OOXML - ODF though. One concern is that it may lead the
user to think this conversion is more supported than it really is.
2b) Normal users probably expect rich text paste as well. I usually
prefer plain text paste myself as I don't want adhoc formatting
showing up in my LyX file. We could have the option of either.

3) Not WYSIWYG.  Normal users clearly expect WYSIWYG. WYSIWYG and
WYSIWYM don't need to be mutually exclusive.  Ignoring the difficulty
in implementing for a while, having a WYSIWYG mode would be great.
After the content is complete, I go though a cycle of: Notice
something weird with the line-breaking in the PDF, muck around with
the LyX source hoping it fixed the problem; recompile PDF. This can
take a while and having a WYSIWYG mode could make this process a
factor of ten times faster.
3a) Psuedo-WYSIWYG. I find it helps to set the size of the LyX window
to be the same width as the PDF, so if I see a problem on the third
line of a paragraph in the PDF I can go straight to the third line of
the paragraph in the LyX window and fix it. Presumably LyX could
approximate the line-breaking algorithm of TeX and do a much better
job than I can by merely adjusting the width of the window. This would
be sufficient for me, but normal users may find another
not-quite-WYSIWYG mode more confusing than reassuring.
3b) LyX could bypass LaTeX. This is clearly what normal users are used
to. However this presumably wouldn't help in my use case where I am
submitting to a journal that provides a LaTeX style file.


So it seems to me that e.g. (1) should be fixed, and should be perhaps
be dealt with before we market LyX as being for normal users. Even (3)
could be fixed, and it would be good if it could, but it doesn't seem
worth the effort at the moment. (It certainly doesn't seem like
something that we should sit on our hands waiting for, and may in fact
dilute the WYSIWYM message).


-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: LyX Promotion

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Rob Oakes lyx-de...@oak-tree.us wrote:
 While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that Pavel 
 hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they seem to think 
 of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, a program which 
 helps professors and students write a thesis or articles. (To be even more 
 narrow, it seems like many think it is for math and physics people to write a 
 thesis or article.) Which is to say, a specialized program with an incredibly 
 small user base and use.

 While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I don't think anyone would argue 
 that many of the developers and users are within academics), it significantly 
 understates LyX's appeal, especially if you consider the enhancements 
 available in the

To the extent that the stereotype is true, it may also be worth
considering what the reasons are for this, and if it is reasonable to
remove those reasons. Off-the-top of my head the following could be
issues.

1) Compile Errors. Normal users aren't used to dealing with compile
errors and shouldn't be expected to fix them. Even I don't like
dealing with compile errors all that much.
1a) Perhaps we could do some sort of bisect to determine where the
error is (either over the file itself or some fine-grained history).
1b) Perhaps we could improve the latex export so that compile errors
only occur if the user uses ERT. Particularly with beamer, this isn't
always the case.

2) Compatibility with Word. Typical users expect to be able to open
and save word documents.
2a) It is easy to bundle import/export filters so that the users don't
have to manually set up OOXML and ODF. This export wouldn't work as
well as e.g. OOXML - ODF though. One concern is that it may lead the
user to think this conversion is more supported than it really is.
2b) Normal users probably expect rich text paste as well. I usually
prefer plain text paste myself as I don't want adhoc formatting
showing up in my LyX file. We could have the option of either.

3) Not WYSIWYG.  Normal users clearly expect WYSIWYG. WYSIWYG and
WYSIWYM don't need to be mutually exclusive.  Ignoring the difficulty
in implementing for a while, having a WYSIWYG mode would be great.
After the content is complete, I go though a cycle of: Notice
something weird with the line-breaking in the PDF, muck around with
the LyX source hoping it fixed the problem; recompile PDF. This can
take a while and having a WYSIWYG mode could make this process a
factor of ten times faster.
3a) Psuedo-WYSIWYG. I find it helps to set the size of the LyX window
to be the same width as the PDF, so if I see a problem on the third
line of a paragraph in the PDF I can go straight to the third line of
the paragraph in the LyX window and fix it. Presumably LyX could
approximate the line-breaking algorithm of TeX and do a much better
job than I can by merely adjusting the width of the window. This would
be sufficient for me, but normal users may find another
not-quite-WYSIWYG mode more confusing than reassuring.
3b) LyX could bypass LaTeX. This is clearly what normal users are used
to. However this presumably wouldn't help in my use case where I am
submitting to a journal that provides a LaTeX style file.


So it seems to me that e.g. (1) should be fixed, and should be perhaps
be dealt with before we market LyX as being for normal users. Even (3)
could be fixed, and it would be good if it could, but it doesn't seem
worth the effort at the moment. (It certainly doesn't seem like
something that we should sit on our hands waiting for, and may in fact
dilute the WYSIWYM message).


-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: LyX Promotion

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Rob Oakes  wrote:
> While I have some ideas about why it may have happened, I think that Pavel 
> hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people about LyX, they seem to think 
> of it as a specialized academic writing tool. Basically, a program which 
> helps professors and students write a thesis or articles. (To be even more 
> narrow, it seems like many think it is for math and physics people to write a 
> thesis or article.) Which is to say, a specialized program with an incredibly 
> small user base and use.
>
> While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I don't think anyone would argue 
> that many of the developers and users are within academics), it significantly 
> understates LyX's appeal, especially if you consider the enhancements 
> available in the

To the extent that the stereotype is true, it may also be worth
considering what the reasons are for this, and if it is reasonable to
remove those reasons. Off-the-top of my head the following could be
issues.

1) Compile Errors. Normal users aren't used to dealing with compile
errors and shouldn't be expected to fix them. Even I don't like
dealing with compile errors all that much.
1a) Perhaps we could do some sort of bisect to determine where the
error is (either over the file itself or some fine-grained history).
1b) Perhaps we could improve the latex export so that compile errors
only occur if the user uses ERT. Particularly with beamer, this isn't
always the case.

2) Compatibility with Word. Typical users expect to be able to open
and save word documents.
2a) It is easy to bundle import/export filters so that the users don't
have to manually set up OOXML and ODF. This export wouldn't work as
well as e.g. OOXML <-> ODF though. One concern is that it may lead the
user to think this conversion is more supported than it really is.
2b) Normal users probably expect rich text paste as well. I usually
prefer plain text paste myself as I don't want adhoc formatting
showing up in my LyX file. We could have the option of either.

3) Not WYSIWYG.  Normal users clearly expect WYSIWYG. WYSIWYG and
WYSIWYM don't need to be mutually exclusive.  Ignoring the difficulty
in implementing for a while, having a WYSIWYG mode would be great.
After the content is complete, I go though a cycle of: Notice
something weird with the line-breaking in the PDF, muck around with
the LyX source hoping it fixed the problem; recompile PDF. This can
take a while and having a WYSIWYG mode could make this process a
factor of ten times faster.
3a) Psuedo-WYSIWYG. I find it helps to set the size of the LyX window
to be the same width as the PDF, so if I see a problem on the third
line of a paragraph in the PDF I can go straight to the third line of
the paragraph in the LyX window and fix it. Presumably LyX could
approximate the line-breaking algorithm of TeX and do a much better
job than I can by merely adjusting the width of the window. This would
be sufficient for me, but normal users may find another
not-quite-WYSIWYG mode more confusing than reassuring.
3b) LyX could bypass LaTeX. This is clearly what normal users are used
to. However this presumably wouldn't help in my use case where I am
submitting to a journal that provides a LaTeX style file.


So it seems to me that e.g. (1) should be fixed, and should be perhaps
be dealt with before we market LyX as being for normal users. Even (3)
could be fixed, and it would be good if it could, but it doesn't seem
worth the effort at the moment. (It certainly doesn't seem like
something that we should sit on our hands waiting for, and may in fact
dilute the WYSIWYM message).


-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Warn if definition of mathematical term/symbol occurs after use?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

Hi, I would like to be able to automatically verify that mathematical
symbols and terms are not used before they are defined. One way of
doing this is to insert the math-macro in the same place in the symbol
is defined. However this has two weaknesses.
1) This means that I cannot disable the error. So I cannot quickly
draw up a draft proof without definitions of the symbols and print it.
(At the moment I have a file with all my math-macros so that if I want
to draft a proof I can just include that file).
2) This is only for symbols. It is not easy for terminology.

I already mark the place where new terms are defined so that they are
added to the index. I am thinking of writing a quick script that uses
this to determine whether the term is used before it is first defined.
Ideally, in electronic versions of the document clicking on the term
would take you back to the definition.

Are there any existing solutions to this problem?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Warn if definition of mathematical term/symbol occurs after use?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

Hi, I would like to be able to automatically verify that mathematical
symbols and terms are not used before they are defined. One way of
doing this is to insert the math-macro in the same place in the symbol
is defined. However this has two weaknesses.
1) This means that I cannot disable the error. So I cannot quickly
draw up a draft proof without definitions of the symbols and print it.
(At the moment I have a file with all my math-macros so that if I want
to draft a proof I can just include that file).
2) This is only for symbols. It is not easy for terminology.

I already mark the place where new terms are defined so that they are
added to the index. I am thinking of writing a quick script that uses
this to determine whether the term is used before it is first defined.
Ideally, in electronic versions of the document clicking on the term
would take you back to the definition.

Are there any existing solutions to this problem?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Warn if definition of mathematical term/symbol occurs after use?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

Hi, I would like to be able to automatically verify that mathematical
symbols and terms are not used before they are defined. One way of
doing this is to insert the math-macro in the same place in the symbol
is defined. However this has two weaknesses.
1) This means that I cannot disable the error. So I cannot quickly
draw up a draft proof without definitions of the symbols and print it.
(At the moment I have a file with all my math-macros so that if I want
to draft a proof I can just include that file).
2) This is only for symbols. It is not easy for terminology.

I already mark the place where new terms are defined so that they are
added to the index. I am thinking of writing a quick script that uses
this to determine whether the term is used before it is first defined.
Ideally, in electronic versions of the document clicking on the term
would take you back to the definition.

Are there any existing solutions to this problem?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: how to see what LyX is thinking?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 I believe you can make a script that opens LyX with a terminal - but
 a minimized terminal. One that disappear as soon as LyX is closed.

 If you need the information, just restore the minimized terminal.

Another possibility, run lyx as
   lyx 21 | tee -a /tmp/lyx-$USER.log
then if you need to see what lyx is thinking, run
   tail -f  /tmp/lyx-$USER.log
or if you need to know what lyx was thinking you can run something like
   gedit /tmp/lyx-$USER.log

This may be better if you don't want to clutter your panel with
windows you probably won't use (or if you may need to know what LyX
was thinking a while back).

The downside is that the log will grow and grow and won't be
automatically cleared until Ubuntu cleans out /tmp on a restart.
However, even a reconfigure only adds 15k to the log so it is unlikely
to grow very large.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: how to see what LyX is thinking?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Helge Haftinghelge.haft...@hist.no wrote:
 I believe you can make a script that opens LyX with a terminal - but
 a minimized terminal. One that disappear as soon as LyX is closed.

 If you need the information, just restore the minimized terminal.

Another possibility, run lyx as
   lyx 21 | tee -a /tmp/lyx-$USER.log
then if you need to see what lyx is thinking, run
   tail -f  /tmp/lyx-$USER.log
or if you need to know what lyx was thinking you can run something like
   gedit /tmp/lyx-$USER.log

This may be better if you don't want to clutter your panel with
windows you probably won't use (or if you may need to know what LyX
was thinking a while back).

The downside is that the log will grow and grow and won't be
automatically cleared until Ubuntu cleans out /tmp on a restart.
However, even a reconfigure only adds 15k to the log so it is unlikely
to grow very large.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: how to see what LyX is thinking?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Helge Hafting wrote:
> I believe you can make a script that opens LyX with a terminal - but
> a minimized terminal. One that disappear as soon as LyX is closed.
>
> If you need the information, just restore the minimized terminal.

Another possibility, run lyx as
   lyx 2>&1 | tee -a /tmp/lyx-$USER.log
then if you need to see what lyx is thinking, run
   tail -f  /tmp/lyx-$USER.log
or if you need to know what lyx was thinking you can run something like
   gedit /tmp/lyx-$USER.log

This may be better if you don't want to clutter your panel with
windows you probably won't use (or if you may need to know what LyX
was thinking a while back).

The downside is that the log will grow and grow and won't be
automatically cleared until Ubuntu cleans out /tmp on a restart.
However, even a reconfigure only adds 15k to the log so it is unlikely
to grow very large.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: A feature you really need

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote:
 Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will
 implement it.

 :-)   What is a trac, and how do I add it?

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki

To add it, login and the click New Ticket and follow the instructions.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: A feature you really need

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Littsl...@troubleshooters.com wrote:
 On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote:
 Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will
 implement it.

 :-)   What is a trac, and how do I add it?

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki

To add it, login and the click New Ticket and follow the instructions.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: A feature you really need

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Friday 21 August 2009 20:28:30 rgheck wrote:
>> Add this to trac, Steve. It's a good idea, and I'm sure someone will
>> implement it.
>
> :-)   What is a trac, and how do I add it?

http://www.lyx.org/trac/wiki

To add it, login and the click "New Ticket" and follow the instructions.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:17 AM, zweetsmoelzweetsm...@gmail.com wrote:
 only another error message...
 src/lyx: symbol lookup error: src/lyx: undefined symbol:
 _ZN8QPainter10drawPixmapERK7QPointFRK7QPixmap

 ok, this is definitely a qt error. even qtconfig won't launch, it
 gotta be qt related. but what exactly? i tried removing 
 re-installing all qt packages and many others; and i wasn't able to
 find duplicate qt libs, but i'm not really an expert in libs and devs.

OK, since we are both using Ubuntu 9.04 our ldd's should be pretty
much the same*. I have put my  my results from ldd below, what are
yours?

* I have installed qt4.5.2, which may change some of the 0x stuff. If
you get other wise similar results, a
  sudo apt-get install libqt4
May help.

--

$ ldd `which lyx`
linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fff88ffe000)
libaspell.so.15 = /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x7ff580af5000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7ff5808f1000)
libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0x7ff5806d9000)
libQtGui.so.4 = /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x7ff57fb26000)
libQtCore.so.4 = /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x7ff57f6ef000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x7ff57f3e2000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7ff57f15d000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x7ff57ef45000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7ff57ebd3000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7ff57e9b7000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x7ff57e6b)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7ff580db3000)
libaudio.so.2 = /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 (0x7ff57e497000)
libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x7ff57e27)
libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x7ff57dfea000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57dda4000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x7ff57db9b000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x7ff57d98)
libglib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57d6bb000)
libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x7ff57d4b1000)
libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x7ff57d27f000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x7ff57d06d000)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57ce68000)
librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x7ff57cc6)
libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x7ff57ca44000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x7ff57c7de000)
libpcre.so.3 = /lib/libpcre.so.3 (0x7ff57c5ae000)
libuuid.so.1 = /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x7ff57c3a9000)
libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x7ff57c17f000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x7ff57bf7c000)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x7ff57bd77000)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM, John McCabe-Danstedgma...@gmail.com wrote:
 you get other wise similar results, a
  sudo apt-get install libqt4
 May help.

By which I mean
  sudo apt-get install libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbg
libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-help
libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-opengl-dev libqt4-phonon
libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql
libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
libqt4-webkit libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns --reinstall

(all on one line)

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:17 AM, zweetsmoelzweetsm...@gmail.com wrote:
 only another error message...
 src/lyx: symbol lookup error: src/lyx: undefined symbol:
 _ZN8QPainter10drawPixmapERK7QPointFRK7QPixmap

 ok, this is definitely a qt error. even qtconfig won't launch, it
 gotta be qt related. but what exactly? i tried removing 
 re-installing all qt packages and many others; and i wasn't able to
 find duplicate qt libs, but i'm not really an expert in libs and devs.

OK, since we are both using Ubuntu 9.04 our ldd's should be pretty
much the same*. I have put my  my results from ldd below, what are
yours?

* I have installed qt4.5.2, which may change some of the 0x stuff. If
you get other wise similar results, a
  sudo apt-get install libqt4
May help.

--

$ ldd `which lyx`
linux-vdso.so.1 =  (0x7fff88ffe000)
libaspell.so.15 = /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x7ff580af5000)
libdl.so.2 = /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7ff5808f1000)
libz.so.1 = /lib/libz.so.1 (0x7ff5806d9000)
libQtGui.so.4 = /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x7ff57fb26000)
libQtCore.so.4 = /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x7ff57f6ef000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x7ff57f3e2000)
libm.so.6 = /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7ff57f15d000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x7ff57ef45000)
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7ff57ebd3000)
libpthread.so.0 = /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7ff57e9b7000)
libX11.so.6 = /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x7ff57e6b)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7ff580db3000)
libaudio.so.2 = /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 (0x7ff57e497000)
libpng12.so.0 = /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x7ff57e27)
libfreetype.so.6 = /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x7ff57dfea000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57dda4000)
libSM.so.6 = /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x7ff57db9b000)
libICE.so.6 = /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x7ff57d98)
libglib-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57d6bb000)
libXrender.so.1 = /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x7ff57d4b1000)
libfontconfig.so.1 = /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x7ff57d27f000)
libXext.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x7ff57d06d000)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 = /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57ce68000)
librt.so.1 = /lib/librt.so.1 (0x7ff57cc6)
libxcb.so.1 = /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x7ff57ca44000)
libXt.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x7ff57c7de000)
libpcre.so.3 = /lib/libpcre.so.3 (0x7ff57c5ae000)
libuuid.so.1 = /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x7ff57c3a9000)
libexpat.so.1 = /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x7ff57c17f000)
libXau.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x7ff57bf7c000)
libXdmcp.so.6 = /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x7ff57bd77000)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM, John McCabe-Danstedgma...@gmail.com wrote:
 you get other wise similar results, a
  sudo apt-get install libqt4
 May help.

By which I mean
  sudo apt-get install libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbg
libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-help
libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-opengl-dev libqt4-phonon
libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql
libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
libqt4-webkit libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns --reinstall

(all on one line)

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:17 AM, zweetsmoel wrote:
> only another error message...
> src/lyx: symbol lookup error: src/lyx: undefined symbol:
> _ZN8QPainter10drawPixmapERK7QPointFRK7QPixmap
>
> ok, this is definitely a qt error. even qtconfig won't launch, it
> gotta be qt related. but what exactly? i tried removing &
> re-installing all qt packages and many others; and i wasn't able to
> find duplicate qt libs, but i'm not really an expert in libs and devs.

OK, since we are both using Ubuntu 9.04 our ldd's should be pretty
much the same*. I have put my  my results from ldd below, what are
yours?

* I have installed qt4.5.2, which may change some of the 0x stuff. If
you get other wise similar results, a
  sudo apt-get install libqt4
May help.

--

$ ldd `which lyx`
linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x7fff88ffe000)
libaspell.so.15 => /usr/lib/libaspell.so.15 (0x7ff580af5000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x7ff5808f1000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x7ff5806d9000)
libQtGui.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtGui.so.4 (0x7ff57fb26000)
libQtCore.so.4 => /usr/lib/libQtCore.so.4 (0x7ff57f6ef000)
libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 (0x7ff57f3e2000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0x7ff57f15d000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x7ff57ef45000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0x7ff57ebd3000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0x7ff57e9b7000)
libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x7ff57e6b)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7ff580db3000)
libaudio.so.2 => /usr/lib/libaudio.so.2 (0x7ff57e497000)
libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x7ff57e27)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x7ff57dfea000)
libgobject-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57dda4000)
libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x7ff57db9b000)
libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x7ff57d98)
libglib-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57d6bb000)
libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x7ff57d4b1000)
libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x7ff57d27f000)
libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x7ff57d06d000)
libgthread-2.0.so.0 => /usr/lib/libgthread-2.0.so.0 (0x7ff57ce68000)
librt.so.1 => /lib/librt.so.1 (0x7ff57cc6)
libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/libxcb.so.1 (0x7ff57ca44000)
libXt.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x7ff57c7de000)
libpcre.so.3 => /lib/libpcre.so.3 (0x7ff57c5ae000)
libuuid.so.1 => /lib/libuuid.so.1 (0x7ff57c3a9000)
libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0x7ff57c17f000)
libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0x7ff57bf7c000)
libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x7ff57bd77000)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: unable to run lyx 1.6.2 and 1.6.3 due to undefined symbol: _Z13qFlagLocationPKc

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 5:13 PM, John McCabe-Dansted<gma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> you get other wise similar results, a
>  sudo apt-get install libqt4
> May help.

By which I mean
  sudo apt-get install libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbg
libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-dev libqt4-gui libqt4-help
libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-opengl-dev libqt4-phonon
libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql
libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test
libqt4-webkit libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns --reinstall

(all on one line)

Re: How to embed a spreadsheet in LyX or LaTeX?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Paul A. Rubinru...@msu.edu wrote:
 This could turn into a viewer issue (at least partially), depending on what
 Steve has in mind.  There are four levels of embedding I can think of:

Adding spreadsheet to Insert-File-External Material sounds like a
good start. Like how .fig is handled but with something like
PyODConverter instead of transfig.
   http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/batch-command-line-file-conversion-with.html

Presumbaly PyODConverter can convert any xls file that OO supports.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: How to embed a spreadsheet in LyX or LaTeX?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Paul A. Rubinru...@msu.edu wrote:
 This could turn into a viewer issue (at least partially), depending on what
 Steve has in mind.  There are four levels of embedding I can think of:

Adding spreadsheet to Insert-File-External Material sounds like a
good start. Like how .fig is handled but with something like
PyODConverter instead of transfig.
   http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/batch-command-line-file-conversion-with.html

Presumbaly PyODConverter can convert any xls file that OO supports.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: How to embed a spreadsheet in LyX or LaTeX?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> This could turn into a viewer issue (at least partially), depending on what
> Steve has in mind.  There are four "levels" of embedding I can think of:

Adding spreadsheet to Insert->File->External Material sounds like a
good start. Like how .fig is handled but with something like
PyODConverter instead of transfig.
   http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/batch-command-line-file-conversion-with.html

Presumbaly PyODConverter can convert any xls file that OO supports.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted

Re: Latest Lyx for Kubuntu 64 bits

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:23 AM, E.Kaplanehud.kap...@mssm.edu wrote:
 Can anyone tell me what is the latest Lyx version that is available for
 Kubuntu 64 bits?  It seems that the repositories only have 1.6.2, and the
 only 1.6.3 version I found was meant for Karmic (9.10) which is not out yet.

Well, the latest *supported* version is 1.6.2. But I am pretty sure
the *latest* version is:
 http://gmatht.homelinux.net/xp/pub/lyx_1.6.x.30798-1_amd64.deb

Note that installing files from third party websites has the same
problems as windows, is generally discouraged:
   http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg61342.html

However, it works here. It installs lyx to /usr/local rather than /usr
so you could still run your old lyx with
   Alt-F2 /usr/bin/lyx

Why do specifically want the latest version?

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Anton Driesseanton.drie...@gmail.com wrote:
 While I have your attention, I am still at a loss why I can't get a response
 from the lyx ftp server.

I don't use windows, but installing the latest Qt from:

   http://www.qtsoftware.com/downloads/downloads#lgpl

might help

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn -
TNWv.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl wrote:

 While I have your attention, I am still at a loss why I can't get a
 response from the lyx ftp server.

I don't use windows, but installing the latest Qt from:

   http://www.qtsoftware.com/downloads/downloads#lgpl

might help

 How ?

Oh, right. Anton was discussing a different bug to the OP. So it
probably wouldn't help.

Re: Latest Lyx for Kubuntu 64 bits

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:23 AM, E.Kaplanehud.kap...@mssm.edu wrote:
 Can anyone tell me what is the latest Lyx version that is available for
 Kubuntu 64 bits?  It seems that the repositories only have 1.6.2, and the
 only 1.6.3 version I found was meant for Karmic (9.10) which is not out yet.

Well, the latest *supported* version is 1.6.2. But I am pretty sure
the *latest* version is:
 http://gmatht.homelinux.net/xp/pub/lyx_1.6.x.30798-1_amd64.deb

Note that installing files from third party websites has the same
problems as windows, is generally discouraged:
   http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg61342.html

However, it works here. It installs lyx to /usr/local rather than /usr
so you could still run your old lyx with
   Alt-F2 /usr/bin/lyx

Why do specifically want the latest version?

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Anton Driesseanton.drie...@gmail.com wrote:
 While I have your attention, I am still at a loss why I can't get a response
 from the lyx ftp server.

I don't use windows, but installing the latest Qt from:

   http://www.qtsoftware.com/downloads/downloads#lgpl

might help

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn -
TNWv.f.vanraveste...@tudelft.nl wrote:

 While I have your attention, I am still at a loss why I can't get a
 response from the lyx ftp server.

I don't use windows, but installing the latest Qt from:

   http://www.qtsoftware.com/downloads/downloads#lgpl

might help

 How ?

Oh, right. Anton was discussing a different bug to the OP. So it
probably wouldn't help.

Re: Latest Lyx for Kubuntu 64 bits

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 8:23 AM, E.Kaplan wrote:
> Can anyone tell me what is the latest Lyx version that is available for
> Kubuntu 64 bits?  It seems that the repositories only have 1.6.2, and the
> only 1.6.3 version I found was meant for Karmic (9.10) which is not out yet.

Well, the latest *supported* version is 1.6.2. But I am pretty sure
the *latest* version is:
 http://gmatht.homelinux.net/xp/pub/lyx_1.6.x.30798-1_amd64.deb

Note that installing files from third party websites has the same
problems as windows, is generally discouraged:
   http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg61342.html

However, it works here. It installs lyx to /usr/local rather than /usr
so you could still run your old lyx with
   Alt-F2 /usr/bin/lyx

Why do specifically want the latest version?

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Anton Driesse wrote:
> While I have your attention, I am still at a loss why I can't get a response
> from the lyx ftp server.

I don't use windows, but installing the latest Qt from:

   http://www.qtsoftware.com/downloads/downloads#lgpl

might help

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 10:29 PM, Vincent van Ravesteijn -
TNW wrote:
>
>>> While I have your attention, I am still at a loss why I can't get a
>>> response from the lyx ftp server.
>>
>>I don't use windows, but installing the latest Qt from:
>>
>>   http://www.qtsoftware.com/downloads/downloads#lgpl
>>
>>might help
>
> How ?

Oh, right. Anton was discussing a different bug to the OP. So it
probably wouldn't help.

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Paul A. Rubinru...@msu.edu wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:

 Hi all,

 In the last 6 months this list has featured at least 10 reports of LyX
 1.6.x terminating unexpectedly. I myself had instances of this in 1.6.2 and
 1.6.3, and was lucky enough to find a workaround in 1.6.3.

 Turns out, the lyx file causing the crash in my 1.6.3 featured a huge
 (bigger than 2mb) .eps file. When the file loaded, the picture on the screen
 said loading bookcover.eps, and then a couple seconds later crashed. This
 was a reproducible error -- it happened every time in the same amount of
 time.

 Using Vim, I replaced bookcover.eps with bookcover.pdf, a much smaller
 file, and the problem disappeared.
 So here's my question for everyone reporting 1.6.x crashes: Did your files
 include graphics? Did they include large graphics? Were any of the large
 graphics .eps files? Was there anybody suffering a 1.6.x crash whose file
 DID NOT have graphic files?

 I'm not sure that *all* crashes on Ubuntu are related to Qt and graphics.
  I've had a couple of crashes lately working on a document whose only images
 are generated by xypic (so the images are external TeX files that are added
 to the doc by LyX input commands, with instant preview off).  The most
 recent one, at least, occurred when I cursored out of a math inset and then
 immediately changed my mind and tried to reenter it via the left arrow key.
  (I might have deleted a character along the way; don't recall for sure.)  I
 suppose that could still be a Qt issue, since Qt handles the LyX GUI itself.

 Personally, I'm just going to live with it until the updated Qt version
 finds its way into some repository as a .deb package.  Fortunately, I deal
 with short documents, so restart/reload is not too painful.

Well they are in the Karmic repositories. Instructions on how to
upgrade qt4 (fairly) safely are at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg74482.html

Scroll down past my instructions and follow Michael Gasper's clearer,
better instructions.

These instructions have worked for me and Michael without any files
being eaten. The main things to remember are to watch the upgrade to
make sure it it only upgrades qt4 related packages, and disable the
Karmic repository after you use it (so you don't accidentally upgrade
to Karmic next time you do updates).

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Paul A. Rubinru...@msu.edu wrote:
 Steve Litt wrote:

 Hi all,

 In the last 6 months this list has featured at least 10 reports of LyX
 1.6.x terminating unexpectedly. I myself had instances of this in 1.6.2 and
 1.6.3, and was lucky enough to find a workaround in 1.6.3.

 Turns out, the lyx file causing the crash in my 1.6.3 featured a huge
 (bigger than 2mb) .eps file. When the file loaded, the picture on the screen
 said loading bookcover.eps, and then a couple seconds later crashed. This
 was a reproducible error -- it happened every time in the same amount of
 time.

 Using Vim, I replaced bookcover.eps with bookcover.pdf, a much smaller
 file, and the problem disappeared.
 So here's my question for everyone reporting 1.6.x crashes: Did your files
 include graphics? Did they include large graphics? Were any of the large
 graphics .eps files? Was there anybody suffering a 1.6.x crash whose file
 DID NOT have graphic files?

 I'm not sure that *all* crashes on Ubuntu are related to Qt and graphics.
  I've had a couple of crashes lately working on a document whose only images
 are generated by xypic (so the images are external TeX files that are added
 to the doc by LyX input commands, with instant preview off).  The most
 recent one, at least, occurred when I cursored out of a math inset and then
 immediately changed my mind and tried to reenter it via the left arrow key.
  (I might have deleted a character along the way; don't recall for sure.)  I
 suppose that could still be a Qt issue, since Qt handles the LyX GUI itself.

 Personally, I'm just going to live with it until the updated Qt version
 finds its way into some repository as a .deb package.  Fortunately, I deal
 with short documents, so restart/reload is not too painful.

Well they are in the Karmic repositories. Instructions on how to
upgrade qt4 (fairly) safely are at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg74482.html

Scroll down past my instructions and follow Michael Gasper's clearer,
better instructions.

These instructions have worked for me and Michael without any files
being eaten. The main things to remember are to watch the upgrade to
make sure it it only upgrades qt4 related packages, and disable the
Karmic repository after you use it (so you don't accidentally upgrade
to Karmic next time you do updates).

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crash feedback

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Paul A. Rubin wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In the last 6 months this list has featured at least 10 reports of LyX
>> 1.6.x terminating unexpectedly. I myself had instances of this in 1.6.2 and
>> 1.6.3, and was lucky enough to find a workaround in 1.6.3.
>>
>> Turns out, the lyx file causing the crash in my 1.6.3 featured a huge
>> (bigger than 2mb) .eps file. When the file loaded, the picture on the screen
>> said "loading bookcover.eps", and then a couple seconds later crashed. This
>> was a reproducible error -- it happened every time in the same amount of
>> time.
>>
>> Using Vim, I replaced bookcover.eps with bookcover.pdf, a much smaller
>> file, and the problem disappeared.
>> So here's my question for everyone reporting 1.6.x crashes: Did your files
>> include graphics? Did they include large graphics? Were any of the large
>> graphics .eps files? Was there anybody suffering a 1.6.x crash whose file
>> DID NOT have graphic files?
>
> I'm not sure that *all* crashes on Ubuntu are related to Qt and graphics.
>  I've had a couple of crashes lately working on a document whose only images
> are generated by xypic (so the images are external TeX files that are added
> to the doc by LyX input commands, with instant preview off).  The most
> recent one, at least, occurred when I cursored out of a math inset and then
> immediately changed my mind and tried to reenter it via the left arrow key.
>  (I might have deleted a character along the way; don't recall for sure.)  I
> suppose that could still be a Qt issue, since Qt handles the LyX GUI itself.
>
> Personally, I'm just going to live with it until the updated Qt version
> finds its way into some repository as a .deb package.  Fortunately, I deal
> with short documents, so restart/reload is not too painful.

Well they are in the Karmic repositories. Instructions on how to
upgrade qt4 (fairly) safely are at:

http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg74482.html

Scroll down past my instructions and follow Michael Gasper's clearer,
better instructions.

These instructions have worked for me and Michael without any files
being eaten. The main things to remember are to watch the upgrade to
make sure it it only upgrades qt4 related packages, and disable the
Karmic repository after you use it (so you don't accidentally upgrade
to Karmic next time you do updates).

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...
 Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
so hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System-Administration-Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go Applications-Add/Remove, type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM, m.kocin...@mini.pw.edu.pl wrote:
 It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
 much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
 Linux...
 Why there is hard to find install. exe file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
so hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System-Administration-Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go Applications-Add/Remove, type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to install LyX in Linux?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 1:23 AM,  wrote:
> It was rather surprise for me that installing LyX in Linux seems to be
> much more complecated than in Windows. In fact, I have no experience in
> Linux...
> Why there is hard to find "install. exe" file for LyX at lyx.org?

In Linux it is traditional to install software via your package
manager rather than via dodgy third party websites (like lyx.org :P).
This is in part to avoid viruses, and in part to avoid DLL hell (or
"so" hell as it would be more accurately described for Linux operating
systems). Personally I also find it more convenient, as I once set my
mirror to be my ISP (System->Administration->Software Sources in
Ubuntu), and then all the software I install comes from my FreeZone
(and not from my 4GB cap). This is especially handy since the LaTeX
install alone is quite big.

In Ubuntu Linux you go "Applications->Add/Remove", type in lyx, click
the check box besides lyx, and press Apply Changes.

Other operating systems built on top of Linux, such as Fedora Core,
have similar ways of adding software.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Use instead of the fancy ones in pdf

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Rainer M Krugr.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 I use beamer to create a handout and would like to have the normal 
 instead of the fancy ones. The reason is that they are in computer
 code and it should be possible to copy-paste them.

You can insert  as ERT (Ctrl-L ). However for computer code it is
common to import it verbatim
  Insert-File-Child Document-Include Type-Verbatim (or Program Listing)

(see also
http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/teTeX/latex/latex2e-html/ltx-79.html)

This may look more appropriate for code, as well as solving the 
problem. Is this what you wanted?

Re: Use instead of the fancy ones in pdf

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Rainer M Krugr.m.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi

 I use beamer to create a handout and would like to have the normal 
 instead of the fancy ones. The reason is that they are in computer
 code and it should be possible to copy-paste them.

You can insert  as ERT (Ctrl-L ). However for computer code it is
common to import it verbatim
  Insert-File-Child Document-Include Type-Verbatim (or Program Listing)

(see also
http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/teTeX/latex/latex2e-html/ltx-79.html)

This may look more appropriate for code, as well as solving the 
problem. Is this what you wanted?

Re: Use " instead of the "fancy" ones in pdf

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Rainer M Krug wrote:
> Hi
>
> I use beamer to create a handout and would like to have the normal "
> instead of the fancy ones. The reason is that they are in computer
> code and it should be possible to copy-paste them.

You can insert " as ERT (Ctrl-L "). However for computer code it is
common to import it verbatim
  Insert->File->Child Document->Include Type->Verbatim (or Program Listing)

(see also
http://www-h.eng.cam.ac.uk/help/tpl/textprocessing/teTeX/latex/latex2e-html/ltx-79.html)

This may look more appropriate for code, as well as solving the "
problem. Is this what you wanted?

Re: Consecutive theorems

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Luca
Brandoliniluca.brandol...@unibg.it wrote:
 I am trying to write two consecutive theorems in my paper. However Lyx
 always joints the two theorems into a single enviromes.
 The only way seems to insert a non-empty line in between.
 Is there a solution for this?

Yes. Put a non-empty line inbetween. Its what I do :)

I put a line inbetween and either put a empty ERT in, or put an empty
note (Alt I-N-N) in to produce a non-empty line

Another trick I use is to insert a Branch. I have a branch called
All which I always leave enabled. Then, if I want to e.g. have a
enumerate environment within a proof, I insert a Branch All and put
the enumerate within the Branch. That said, for this purpose,
increasing the environment depth as suggested by Ignacio García seems
more convenient.

Re: file recovery

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, humanengrhumane...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know what role the # are supposed to play?

These appear to be autosaves.

Also there is yet another type of file you can recover from. If you
have done a view DVI etc, there is also likely to be a .tex file
sitting somewhere in your tmp directory. You can then import that .tex
file back into LyX. This saved me from retyping a couple of paragraphs
of math once.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Consecutive theorems

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Luca
Brandoliniluca.brandol...@unibg.it wrote:
 I am trying to write two consecutive theorems in my paper. However Lyx
 always joints the two theorems into a single enviromes.
 The only way seems to insert a non-empty line in between.
 Is there a solution for this?

Yes. Put a non-empty line inbetween. Its what I do :)

I put a line inbetween and either put a empty ERT in, or put an empty
note (Alt I-N-N) in to produce a non-empty line

Another trick I use is to insert a Branch. I have a branch called
All which I always leave enabled. Then, if I want to e.g. have a
enumerate environment within a proof, I insert a Branch All and put
the enumerate within the Branch. That said, for this purpose,
increasing the environment depth as suggested by Ignacio García seems
more convenient.

Re: file recovery

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, humanengrhumane...@gmail.com wrote:
 Does anyone know what role the # are supposed to play?

These appear to be autosaves.

Also there is yet another type of file you can recover from. If you
have done a view DVI etc, there is also likely to be a .tex file
sitting somewhere in your tmp directory. You can then import that .tex
file back into LyX. This saved me from retyping a couple of paragraphs
of math once.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Consecutive theorems

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:55 PM, Luca
Brandolini wrote:
> I am trying to write two consecutive theorems in my paper. However Lyx
> always joints the two theorems into a single enviromes.
> The only way seems to insert a non-empty line in between.
> Is there a solution for this?

Yes. Put a non-empty line inbetween. Its what I do :)

I put a line inbetween and either put a empty ERT in, or put an empty
note (Alt I-N-N) in to produce a "non-empty" line

Another trick I use is to insert a "Branch". I have a branch called
"All" which I always leave enabled. Then, if I want to e.g. have a
enumerate environment within a proof, I insert a "Branch All" and put
the enumerate within the Branch. That said, for this purpose,
increasing the environment depth as suggested by Ignacio García seems
more convenient.

Re: file recovery

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, humanengr wrote:
> Does anyone know what role the "#" are supposed to play?

These appear to be autosaves.

Also there is yet another type of file you can recover from. If you
have done a view DVI etc, there is also likely to be a .tex file
sitting somewhere in your tmp directory. You can then import that .tex
file back into LyX. This saved me from retyping a couple of paragraphs
of math once.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to enable a disabled command?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/28 bsmile devout1...@gmail.com:

 I am familiar with shortcut command with scientific workplace, and thus
 incorporated those shortcut command into lyx. However, some of the shortcut
 command usable in scientific workplace, say ctrl+9 to input (), ctrl+/ to
 input fraction, ctrl+2 to input square root ... are disabled in lyx, anybody
 knows how to deal with this issue? Thanks!
 --
 View this message in context: 
 http://n2.nabble.com/how-to-enable-a-disabled-command--tp3169194p3169194.html
 Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

According to:
   http://www.stat.rice.edu/~helpdesk/compguide/node40.html
There are SWP keybindings for lyx. I have not found them, although
there are for Scientific word at
  lyx/bind/sciword.bind

Perhaps you could find the keybindings, or recreate them following the
instructions at:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcuts
and post them somewhere?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to enable a disabled command?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/28 bsmile devout1...@gmail.com:

 I am familiar with shortcut command with scientific workplace, and thus
 incorporated those shortcut command into lyx. However, some of the shortcut
 command usable in scientific workplace, say ctrl+9 to input (), ctrl+/ to
 input fraction, ctrl+2 to input square root ... are disabled in lyx, anybody
 knows how to deal with this issue? Thanks!
 --
 View this message in context: 
 http://n2.nabble.com/how-to-enable-a-disabled-command--tp3169194p3169194.html
 Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

According to:
   http://www.stat.rice.edu/~helpdesk/compguide/node40.html
There are SWP keybindings for lyx. I have not found them, although
there are for Scientific word at
  lyx/bind/sciword.bind

Perhaps you could find the keybindings, or recreate them following the
instructions at:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcuts
and post them somewhere?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to enable a disabled command?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/28 bsmile :
>
> I am familiar with shortcut command with scientific workplace, and thus
> incorporated those shortcut command into lyx. However, some of the shortcut
> command usable in scientific workplace, say ctrl+9 to input (), ctrl+/ to
> input fraction, ctrl+2 to input square root ... are disabled in lyx, anybody
> knows how to deal with this issue? Thanks!
> --
> View this message in context: 
> http://n2.nabble.com/how-to-enable-a-disabled-command--tp3169194p3169194.html
> Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

According to:
   http://www.stat.rice.edu/~helpdesk/compguide/node40.html
There are SWP keybindings for lyx. I have not found them, although
there are for Scientific word at
  lyx/bind/sciword.bind

Perhaps you could find the keybindings, or recreate them following the
instructions at:
 http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/KeyboardShortcuts
and post them somewhere?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Michael Gasperl mich...@gasperl.at

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=jaunty
 in-Priority: 700

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=karmic
 Pin-Priority: 600

 Package: libqt4*
 Pin: release a=karmic
 Pin-Priority: 800

 Package: qt4*
 Pin: release a=karmic
 Pin-Priority: 800

 [perhaps it would work without preferences?]


Well the conventional wisdom would be that without the preferences file,
apt-get would try to upgrade all your files to a completely different (and
Alpha quality) version of Ubuntu. If you let apt-get do this, this would
probably break your system horribly... However, in this case it would
probably be safe to do with without the preferences file for two reasons:
1) The Ubuntu GUI Upgrade Managers would allow you to uncheck the unwanted
upgrades anyway.
2) We are removing the karmic sources afterwards anyway, so it would be
unlikely that Ubuntu would install these unwanted updates later.

I chose this way, because the first described way with update/upgrade
 didn't work on my pc.


I must have made a mistake, since it should work on any 9.04 Ubuntu system.
Oh well, your way seems more user friendly anyway.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Michael Gasperl mich...@gasperl.at

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=jaunty
 in-Priority: 700

 Package: *
 Pin: release a=karmic
 Pin-Priority: 600

 Package: libqt4*
 Pin: release a=karmic
 Pin-Priority: 800

 Package: qt4*
 Pin: release a=karmic
 Pin-Priority: 800

 [perhaps it would work without preferences?]


Well the conventional wisdom would be that without the preferences file,
apt-get would try to upgrade all your files to a completely different (and
Alpha quality) version of Ubuntu. If you let apt-get do this, this would
probably break your system horribly... However, in this case it would
probably be safe to do with without the preferences file for two reasons:
1) The Ubuntu GUI Upgrade Managers would allow you to uncheck the unwanted
upgrades anyway.
2) We are removing the karmic sources afterwards anyway, so it would be
unlikely that Ubuntu would install these unwanted updates later.

I chose this way, because the first described way with update/upgrade
 didn't work on my pc.


I must have made a mistake, since it should work on any 9.04 Ubuntu system.
Oh well, your way seems more user friendly anyway.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Michael Gasperl 

> Package: *
> Pin: release a=jaunty
> in-Priority: 700
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=karmic
> Pin-Priority: 600
>
> Package: libqt4*
> Pin: release a=karmic
> Pin-Priority: 800
>
> Package: qt4*
> Pin: release a=karmic
> Pin-Priority: 800
>
> [perhaps it would work without preferences?]


Well the conventional wisdom would be that without the preferences file,
apt-get would try to upgrade all your files to a completely different (and
Alpha quality) version of Ubuntu. If you let apt-get do this, this would
probably break your system horribly... However, in this case it would
probably be safe to do with without the preferences file for two reasons:
1) The Ubuntu GUI Upgrade Managers would allow you to uncheck the unwanted
upgrades anyway.
2) We are removing the karmic sources afterwards anyway, so it would be
unlikely that Ubuntu would install these unwanted updates later.

I chose this way, because the first described way with update/upgrade
> didn't work on my pc.


I must have made a mistake, since it should work on any 9.04 Ubuntu system.
Oh well, your way seems more user friendly anyway.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Michael Gasperl mich...@gasperl.at

 Hi! I have the following Problem:
 LyX 1.6.2 crashes regularily while i scroll down in a bigger document.
 This only happens if showing graphics is enabled. How can I solve this
 problem?
 Thank you very much!


I cannot reproduce the problem.

1) Are you using 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?
2) Can you send a document that reproduces the problem?

It would also help if you could run LyX in a debugger.

Either install a later version of LyX from source (this may fix the problem
anyway) or install the Ubuntu ddebs. Compiling sounds tricky, but the
following commands should suffice in a terminal

sudo aptitude build-dep lyx
cd
wget -c ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.3.tar.bz2
tar -jxf lyx-1.6.3.tar.bz2
cd lyx-1.6.3
./configure  make
gdb src/lyx
run

Cause LyX to crash, and then type

bt

To get the backtrace, and then cut-and-paste it here.

Feel free to discuss any problems here, or directly to me.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Thomas Løcke thomas.granv...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Michael Gasperlmich...@gasperl.at
 wrote:
  Hi! I have the following Problem:
  LyX 1.6.2 crashes regularily while i scroll down in a bigger document.
  This only happens if showing graphics is enabled. How can I solve this
  problem?
  Thank you very much!

 This also happpened to me, on Slackware 12.1,

 I fixed it by updating my QT4 library from version 4.4.3 to version
 4.5.1, and then recompile LyX against that.


  Heh, I upgraded my QT to QT4.5.1. Maybe thats  why I cannot reproduce.

  I upgraded this way. (NOTE: this is not supported. If  you use this, be
careful, and make backups)

  first I did

sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade

  to make sure I was up-to-date

  Then I added

deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe

  to /etc/apt/sources.list (you may want to replace the http:// bit with
your local mirror)

  added the following to /etc/apt/preferences

Package: *
Pin: release a=jaunty
in-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 600

Package: libqt4*
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 800

Package: qt4*
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 800

  then I did

sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade

   IMPORTANT: make sure there are no packages without qt4 in
   their name being upgraded. Otherwise you could hose your system.

   Then I removed the

deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe

   Line from /etc/apt/sources.list

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Michael Gasperl mich...@gasperl.at

 Hi! I have the following Problem:
 LyX 1.6.2 crashes regularily while i scroll down in a bigger document.
 This only happens if showing graphics is enabled. How can I solve this
 problem?
 Thank you very much!


I cannot reproduce the problem.

1) Are you using 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?
2) Can you send a document that reproduces the problem?

It would also help if you could run LyX in a debugger.

Either install a later version of LyX from source (this may fix the problem
anyway) or install the Ubuntu ddebs. Compiling sounds tricky, but the
following commands should suffice in a terminal

sudo aptitude build-dep lyx
cd
wget -c ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.3.tar.bz2
tar -jxf lyx-1.6.3.tar.bz2
cd lyx-1.6.3
./configure  make
gdb src/lyx
run

Cause LyX to crash, and then type

bt

To get the backtrace, and then cut-and-paste it here.

Feel free to discuss any problems here, or directly to me.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Thomas Løcke thomas.granv...@gmail.com

 On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Michael Gasperlmich...@gasperl.at
 wrote:
  Hi! I have the following Problem:
  LyX 1.6.2 crashes regularily while i scroll down in a bigger document.
  This only happens if showing graphics is enabled. How can I solve this
  problem?
  Thank you very much!

 This also happpened to me, on Slackware 12.1,

 I fixed it by updating my QT4 library from version 4.4.3 to version
 4.5.1, and then recompile LyX against that.


  Heh, I upgraded my QT to QT4.5.1. Maybe thats  why I cannot reproduce.

  I upgraded this way. (NOTE: this is not supported. If  you use this, be
careful, and make backups)

  first I did

sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade

  to make sure I was up-to-date

  Then I added

deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe

  to /etc/apt/sources.list (you may want to replace the http:// bit with
your local mirror)

  added the following to /etc/apt/preferences

Package: *
Pin: release a=jaunty
in-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 600

Package: libqt4*
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 800

Package: qt4*
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 800

  then I did

sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade

   IMPORTANT: make sure there are no packages without qt4 in
   their name being upgraded. Otherwise you could hose your system.

   Then I removed the

deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe

   Line from /etc/apt/sources.list

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Michael Gasperl 

> Hi! I have the following Problem:
> LyX 1.6.2 crashes regularily while i scroll down in a bigger document.
> This only happens if showing graphics is enabled. How can I solve this
> problem?
> Thank you very much!


I cannot reproduce the problem.

1) Are you using 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu?
2) Can you send a document that reproduces the problem?

It would also help if you could run LyX in a debugger.

Either install a later version of LyX from source (this may fix the problem
anyway) or install the Ubuntu ddebs. Compiling sounds tricky, but the
following commands should suffice in a terminal

sudo aptitude build-dep lyx
cd
wget -c ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/stable/1.6.x/lyx-1.6.3.tar.bz2
tar -jxf lyx-1.6.3.tar.bz2
cd lyx-1.6.3
./configure && make
gdb src/lyx
run

Cause LyX to crash, and then type

bt

To get the backtrace, and then cut-and-paste it here.

Feel free to discuss any problems here, or directly to me.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX crashes in Ubuntu 9.04

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/6/11 Thomas Løcke 

> On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 6:25 AM, Michael Gasperl
> wrote:
> > Hi! I have the following Problem:
> > LyX 1.6.2 crashes regularily while i scroll down in a bigger document.
> > This only happens if showing graphics is enabled. How can I solve this
> > problem?
> > Thank you very much!
>
> This also happpened to me, on Slackware 12.1,
>
> I fixed it by updating my QT4 library from version 4.4.3 to version
> 4.5.1, and then recompile LyX against that.


  Heh, I upgraded my QT to QT4.5.1. Maybe thats  why I cannot reproduce.

  I upgraded this way. (NOTE: this is not supported. If  you use this, be
careful, and make backups)

  first I did

sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade

  to make sure I was up-to-date

  Then I added

deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe

  to /etc/apt/sources.list (you may want to replace the http:// bit with
your local mirror)

  added the following to /etc/apt/preferences

Package: *
Pin: release a=jaunty
in-Priority: 700

Package: *
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 600

Package: libqt4*
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 800

Package: qt4*
Pin: release a=karmic
Pin-Priority: 800

  then I did

sudo aptitude update
sudo aptitude upgrade

   IMPORTANT: make sure there are no packages without qt4 in
   their name being upgraded. Otherwise you could hose your system.

   Then I removed the

deb http://ftp.iinet.net.au/pub/ubuntu/ karmic main restricted universe

   Line from /etc/apt/sources.list

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

UK and US editions of the same work.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/5/13 Jürgen Spitzmüller j.spitzmuel...@gmx.de:
 James C. Sutherland wrote:

 However, I really don't want to have any notion of
 the language my documents are written in.

 This will have the consequence that your text, even if monolingually
 English,

 * will not be hyphenated correctly
 * cannot be spellchecked

Well, babel at least isn't required for spell checking. However, in a
broad picture there are two ways babel can be used:

1) Old way User manually adds \foriegnlanguage tags to quoted text,
loan words, etc.
2) New way LyX stores language text is in, and outputs tags to
switch between lanuages.

With the (1), if the user puts \foriegnlanguage tags around all quote
etc., producing a UK edition from a US addition is trivial: Switch the
document type to UK, spellcheck (hopefully the author has avoided
ambiguous dates etc.), and 5 minutes later we have a version of the
document in UK English.

With (2) it is not so simple. The obvious way is to switch the
document type to UK English, but then LyX fights your decision by
adding \foriegnlanguage tags around everything. You can fix this by
selecting All and reseting the language. Then however, all the quotes
are now in UK English as well, even e.g. French quotes.

AFAICT, LyX has no way of distinguishing between (a) This is text is
in UK English because this is a UK English document and (b) This
text is in UK English, because it is a quote, name etc.. This
distinction seems to be useful when preparing the same document in
different dialects.

We could add an additional language Default to allow us to
distinguish between (a) and (b), if we felt this was important.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

UK and US editions of the same work.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/5/13 Jürgen Spitzmüller j.spitzmuel...@gmx.de:
 James C. Sutherland wrote:

 However, I really don't want to have any notion of
 the language my documents are written in.

 This will have the consequence that your text, even if monolingually
 English,

 * will not be hyphenated correctly
 * cannot be spellchecked

Well, babel at least isn't required for spell checking. However, in a
broad picture there are two ways babel can be used:

1) Old way User manually adds \foriegnlanguage tags to quoted text,
loan words, etc.
2) New way LyX stores language text is in, and outputs tags to
switch between lanuages.

With the (1), if the user puts \foriegnlanguage tags around all quote
etc., producing a UK edition from a US addition is trivial: Switch the
document type to UK, spellcheck (hopefully the author has avoided
ambiguous dates etc.), and 5 minutes later we have a version of the
document in UK English.

With (2) it is not so simple. The obvious way is to switch the
document type to UK English, but then LyX fights your decision by
adding \foriegnlanguage tags around everything. You can fix this by
selecting All and reseting the language. Then however, all the quotes
are now in UK English as well, even e.g. French quotes.

AFAICT, LyX has no way of distinguishing between (a) This is text is
in UK English because this is a UK English document and (b) This
text is in UK English, because it is a quote, name etc.. This
distinction seems to be useful when preparing the same document in
different dialects.

We could add an additional language Default to allow us to
distinguish between (a) and (b), if we felt this was important.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

UK and US editions of the same work.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

2009/5/13 Jürgen Spitzmüller :
> James C. Sutherland wrote:
>
>> However, I really don't want to have any notion of
>> the "language" my documents are written in.
>
> This will have the consequence that your text, even if monolingually
> English,
>
> * will not be hyphenated correctly
> * cannot be spellchecked

Well, babel at least isn't required for spell checking. However, in a
broad picture there are two ways babel can be used:

1) "Old way" User manually adds \foriegnlanguage tags to quoted text,
loan words, etc.
2) "New way" LyX stores language text is in, and outputs tags to
switch between lanuages.

With the (1), if the user puts \foriegnlanguage tags around all quote
etc., producing a UK edition from a US addition is trivial: Switch the
document type to UK, spellcheck (hopefully the author has avoided
ambiguous dates etc.), and 5 minutes later we have a version of the
document in UK English.

With (2) it is not so simple. The obvious way is to switch the
document type to UK English, but then LyX fights your decision by
adding \foriegnlanguage tags around everything. You can fix this by
selecting All and reseting the language. Then however, all the quotes
are now in UK English as well, even e.g. French quotes.

AFAICT, LyX has no way of distinguishing between (a) "This is text is
in UK English because this is a UK English document" and (b) "This
text is in UK English, because it is a quote, name etc.". This
distinction seems to be useful when preparing the same document in
different dialects.

We could add an additional language "Default" to allow us to
distinguish between (a) and (b), if we felt this was important.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Upgrading to 1.6.2

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote:
 On 2009-04-21, Ehud Kaplan wrote:

1.   In trying to upgrade from 1.6.1 under Kubuntu 8.10 64 bits I
   found only packages that could not be installed since it was the
   wrong architecture.  Is there a place where I can find Lyx 1.6.2
   for 64 bits Linux?

 LyX 1.6.2 is available as *.deb package in Debian/testing for several 64-bit
 architectures. I don't know whether it works with Ubuntu, though.

Also there appears to be a LyX ppa for ubuntu, but it appears to be
out-of-date, and rather broken:

https://launchpad.net/~lyx-developers/+archive/ppa

Are there any plans to have an up-to-date PPA for Ubuntu?
 (this would seem much cleaner than trying to manually build packages
for various versions of Ubuntu, and upload them to ftp.lyx.org).

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Upgrading to 1.6.2

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guenter Milde mi...@users.berlios.de wrote:
 On 2009-04-21, Ehud Kaplan wrote:

1.   In trying to upgrade from 1.6.1 under Kubuntu 8.10 64 bits I
   found only packages that could not be installed since it was the
   wrong architecture.  Is there a place where I can find Lyx 1.6.2
   for 64 bits Linux?

 LyX 1.6.2 is available as *.deb package in Debian/testing for several 64-bit
 architectures. I don't know whether it works with Ubuntu, though.

Also there appears to be a LyX ppa for ubuntu, but it appears to be
out-of-date, and rather broken:

https://launchpad.net/~lyx-developers/+archive/ppa

Are there any plans to have an up-to-date PPA for Ubuntu?
 (this would seem much cleaner than trying to manually build packages
for various versions of Ubuntu, and upload them to ftp.lyx.org).

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Upgrading to 1.6.2

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Guenter Milde  wrote:
> On 2009-04-21, Ehud Kaplan wrote:
>
>>1.   In trying to upgrade from 1.6.1 under Kubuntu 8.10 64 bits I
>>   found only packages that could not be installed since it was "the
>>   wrong architecture".  Is there a place where I can find Lyx 1.6.2
>>   for 64 bits Linux?
>
> LyX 1.6.2 is available as *.deb package in Debian/testing for several 64-bit
> architectures. I don't know whether it works with Ubuntu, though.

Also there appears to be a LyX ppa for ubuntu, but it appears to be
out-of-date, and rather broken:

https://launchpad.net/~lyx-developers/+archive/ppa

Are there any plans to have an up-to-date PPA for Ubuntu?
 (this would seem much cleaner than trying to manually build packages
for various versions of Ubuntu, and upload them to ftp.lyx.org).

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to stop TeX and LaTeX from being typeset with the special logo?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:
 LyX automagically typesets words like TeX and LaTeX using the special
 logo for those words.

 How do I turn this behavior off? There are a couple of places, such as

You can press Ctrl-L to enter ERT mode and type TeX into the ERT
inset. This will send TeX straight to LaTeX without LyX doing any
funny processing.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to stop TeX and LaTeX from being typeset with the special logo?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Richard Talley rich.tal...@gmail.com wrote:
 LyX automagically typesets words like TeX and LaTeX using the special
 logo for those words.

 How do I turn this behavior off? There are a couple of places, such as

You can press Ctrl-L to enter ERT mode and type TeX into the ERT
inset. This will send TeX straight to LaTeX without LyX doing any
funny processing.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: how to stop TeX and LaTeX from being typeset with the special logo?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Richard Talley  wrote:
> LyX automagically typesets words like TeX and LaTeX using the special
> logo for those words.
>
> How do I turn this behavior off? There are a couple of places, such as

You can press Ctrl-L to enter ERT mode and type TeX into the ERT
inset. This will send "TeX" straight to LaTeX without LyX doing any
funny processing.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

LyX with 800 or 640x480 resolution.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

I am using LyX on the Eeepc 701 which has a 800x480 resolution.
Unfortunately a number of LyX dialogs are a bit too large to fit on
the screen. I used kcmshell font to set the fontsize to 7 in
~/.qt/qtrc. However LyX seems to have ignored this setting.

LyX offers the ability to adjust the zoom/fonts, but this appears to
be only for the Document. Does anyone know of a way of scaling down
the dialogs?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX with 800 or 640x480 resolution.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:25 AM, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
 John McCabe-Dansted wrote:

 I am using LyX on the Eeepc 701 which has a 800x480 resolution.
 Unfortunately a number of LyX dialogs are a bit too large to fit on
 the screen. I used kcmshell font to set the fontsize to 7 in
 ~/.qt/qtrc. However LyX seems to have ignored this setting.



 You need to set that for qt4. I'd use qtconfig-qt4 to do that, but I don't
 know if it's available on your machine.

I added the following to ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
It worked but it was a bit harsh that I had to use a font size of 5. I
don't suppose anyone knows of a way to scale down the space *between*
items on the dialog? (which is where much of the space  goes).

[Qt]
font=Sans Serif,5,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0

 FYI, I've got all our EeePCs---two 901s and a 1000---all running Fedora 10,
 which works very well with one of the lighter desktops, like XFCE or LXDE.
 And then you can do as you please.

I think the 900+ EeePCs have a resolution of 1024x600, which really helps.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

LyX with 800 or 640x480 resolution.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

I am using LyX on the Eeepc 701 which has a 800x480 resolution.
Unfortunately a number of LyX dialogs are a bit too large to fit on
the screen. I used kcmshell font to set the fontsize to 7 in
~/.qt/qtrc. However LyX seems to have ignored this setting.

LyX offers the ability to adjust the zoom/fonts, but this appears to
be only for the Document. Does anyone know of a way of scaling down
the dialogs?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX with 800 or 640x480 resolution.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:25 AM, rgheck rgh...@bobjweil.com wrote:
 John McCabe-Dansted wrote:

 I am using LyX on the Eeepc 701 which has a 800x480 resolution.
 Unfortunately a number of LyX dialogs are a bit too large to fit on
 the screen. I used kcmshell font to set the fontsize to 7 in
 ~/.qt/qtrc. However LyX seems to have ignored this setting.



 You need to set that for qt4. I'd use qtconfig-qt4 to do that, but I don't
 know if it's available on your machine.

I added the following to ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
It worked but it was a bit harsh that I had to use a font size of 5. I
don't suppose anyone knows of a way to scale down the space *between*
items on the dialog? (which is where much of the space  goes).

[Qt]
font=Sans Serif,5,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0

 FYI, I've got all our EeePCs---two 901s and a 1000---all running Fedora 10,
 which works very well with one of the lighter desktops, like XFCE or LXDE.
 And then you can do as you please.

I think the 900+ EeePCs have a resolution of 1024x600, which really helps.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

LyX with 800 or 640x480 resolution.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

I am using LyX on the Eeepc 701 which has a 800x480 resolution.
Unfortunately a number of LyX dialogs are a bit too large to fit on
the screen. I used "kcmshell font" to set the fontsize to 7 in
~/.qt/qtrc. However LyX seems to have ignored this setting.

LyX offers the ability to adjust the zoom/fonts, but this appears to
be only for the Document. Does anyone know of a way of scaling down
the dialogs?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX with 800 or 640x480 resolution.

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 12:25 AM, rgheck <rgh...@bobjweil.com> wrote:
> John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
>>
>> I am using LyX on the Eeepc 701 which has a 800x480 resolution.
>> Unfortunately a number of LyX dialogs are a bit too large to fit on
>> the screen. I used "kcmshell font" to set the fontsize to 7 in
>> ~/.qt/qtrc. However LyX seems to have ignored this setting.
>>
>>
>
> You need to set that for qt4. I'd use qtconfig-qt4 to do that, but I don't
> know if it's available on your machine.

I added the following to ~/.config/Trolltech.conf
It worked but it was a bit harsh that I had to use a font size of 5. I
don't suppose anyone knows of a way to scale down the space *between*
items on the dialog? (which is where much of the space  goes).

[Qt]
font="Sans Serif,5,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0"

> FYI, I've got all our EeePCs---two 901s and a 1000---all running Fedora 10,
> which works very well with one of the lighter desktops, like XFCE or LXDE.
> And then you can do as you please.

I think the 900+ EeePCs have a resolution of 1024x600, which really helps.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Lyx cross platform compatability - is there a problem?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 19 Aug 2008, at 09:16, José Matos wrote:
 The error message suggests that the culprit is a different version
 installed of Koma between your different systems.
snip
 Thanks, this could well be the case,
snip

I think bundling the KomaScript .sty file with the .lyx file may help
if this is the case.

 However, I realise I don't actually know how to find out the versions, or
 indeed even where the packages are installed on the different systems.  I
 will need to find out.

This should be listed in your log file. This can be viewed e.g. by the
menu item Document  LaTeX Log. However LyX does not allow searching
so you can't just do a find .sty to get this information unless you
dig around in /tmp/lyx_tmdir?? and open the .log file in a real
text editor/viewer.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Lyx cross platform compatability - is there a problem?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Graham Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 19 Aug 2008, at 09:16, José Matos wrote:
 The error message suggests that the culprit is a different version
 installed of Koma between your different systems.
snip
 Thanks, this could well be the case,
snip

I think bundling the KomaScript .sty file with the .lyx file may help
if this is the case.

 However, I realise I don't actually know how to find out the versions, or
 indeed even where the packages are installed on the different systems.  I
 will need to find out.

This should be listed in your log file. This can be viewed e.g. by the
menu item Document  LaTeX Log. However LyX does not allow searching
so you can't just do a find .sty to get this information unless you
dig around in /tmp/lyx_tmdir?? and open the .log file in a real
text editor/viewer.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Lyx cross platform compatability - is there a problem?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Graham Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 19 Aug 2008, at 09:16, José Matos wrote:
>> The error message suggests that the culprit is a different version
>> installed of Koma between your different systems.

> Thanks, this could well be the case,


I think bundling the KomaScript .sty file with the .lyx file may help
if this is the case.

> However, I realise I don't actually know how to find out the versions, or
> indeed even where the packages are installed on the different systems.  I
> will need to find out.

This should be listed in your log file. This can be viewed e.g. by the
menu item Document > LaTeX Log. However LyX does not allow searching
so you can't just do a find ".sty" to get this information unless you
dig around in /tmp/lyx_tmdir?? and open the .log file in a real
text editor/viewer.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: HELP: DVi view problem in IEEETrans!!

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:20 PM, shahid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am using Lyx for writing a IEEE paper using IEEE template. But when I add
 more than two float figures, the DVI,PDF or PS outputs are not created.
 Also, no error message is given...can anyone help me? its urgent!

Document  View Latex Log may give you some errors.

It is also possible that floats are too large or have too little text
perhaps you could see if shrinking the floats or adding a few pages of
junk text so there are a few pages of text between each float (this
may not be what you want, but may give us an idea where the problem
is)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: HELP: DVi view problem in IEEETrans!!

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:20 PM, shahid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am using Lyx for writing a IEEE paper using IEEE template. But when I add
 more than two float figures, the DVI,PDF or PS outputs are not created.
 Also, no error message is given...can anyone help me? its urgent!

Document  View Latex Log may give you some errors.

It is also possible that floats are too large or have too little text
perhaps you could see if shrinking the floats or adding a few pages of
junk text so there are a few pages of text between each float (this
may not be what you want, but may give us an idea where the problem
is)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: HELP: DVi view problem in IEEETrans!!

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 12:20 PM, shahid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am using Lyx for writing a IEEE paper using IEEE template. But when I add
> more than two float figures, the DVI,PDF or PS outputs are not created.
> Also, no error message is given...can anyone help me? its urgent!

Document > View Latex Log may give you some errors.

It is also possible that floats are too large or have too little text
perhaps you could see if shrinking the floats or adding a few pages of
junk text so there are a few pages of text between each float (this
may not be what you want, but may give us an idea where the problem
is)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: 1.5.6 deb

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Manveru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This was discussed some time ago that plenty security rules does not allow
 LyX team and other to publish such packages. There is a team in Ubuntu which
 should be responsible for preparing secure reviewed packages for
 Ubuntu/Debian users. Try to join them if you want contribute in pacakge
 preparation.

I am not sure what team you are talking about. Tomasz could manage a
PPA for lyx, see:
   https://help.launchpad.net/PPA?action=showredirect=PPAQuickStart
However this is only for Ubuntu.

I was thinking of building a deb of 1.5.7 upon release for debian
stable etch users, e.g. Eeepc users. Is there a way of doing this
such that I can share this deb with other LyX users?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: 1.5.6 deb

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Manveru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This was discussed some time ago that plenty security rules does not allow
 LyX team and other to publish such packages. There is a team in Ubuntu which
 should be responsible for preparing secure reviewed packages for
 Ubuntu/Debian users. Try to join them if you want contribute in pacakge
 preparation.

I am not sure what team you are talking about. Tomasz could manage a
PPA for lyx, see:
   https://help.launchpad.net/PPA?action=showredirect=PPAQuickStart
However this is only for Ubuntu.

I was thinking of building a deb of 1.5.7 upon release for debian
stable etch users, e.g. Eeepc users. Is there a way of doing this
such that I can share this deb with other LyX users?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: 1.5.6 deb

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This was discussed some time ago that plenty security rules does not allow
> LyX team and other to publish such packages. There is a team in Ubuntu which
> should be responsible for preparing secure reviewed packages for
> Ubuntu/Debian users. Try to join them if you want contribute in pacakge
> preparation.

I am not sure what team you are talking about. Tomasz could manage a
PPA for lyx, see:
   https://help.launchpad.net/PPA?action=show=PPAQuickStart
However this is only for Ubuntu.

I was thinking of building a deb of 1.5.7 upon release for debian
stable "etch" users, e.g. Eeepc users. Is there a way of doing this
such that I can share this deb with other LyX users?

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To the discussion about data format preference:

 I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data
 formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost
 nobody is remeber about. How many LyX user are working in large team
 projects? How often they have to merge text files from different branches?
 Have you ever merge XML? I tried - it is horrible work.

I don't see why it would be harder if we just replace \begin...\end
with .../.

 I think LyX cannot exist with XML data format without build-in document
 merge functionality.

This would be nice in any case.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 To the discussion about data format preference:

 I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data
 formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost
 nobody is remeber about. How many LyX user are working in large team
 projects? How often they have to merge text files from different branches?
 Have you ever merge XML? I tried - it is horrible work.

I don't see why it would be harder if we just replace \begin...\end
with .../.

 I think LyX cannot exist with XML data format without build-in document
 merge functionality.

This would be nice in any case.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Progress on the MS Word to LyX conversion (xml)

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Manveru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> To the discussion about data format preference:
>
> I am reading all your comments about XML, YAML and other suggested data
> formats. And this discussion reminds me something about XML what almost
> nobody is remeber about. How many LyX user are working in large team
> projects? How often they have to merge text files from different branches?
> Have you ever merge XML? I tried - it is horrible work.

I don't see why it would be harder if we "just replace \begin...\end
with <>...".

> I think LyX cannot exist with XML data format without build-in document
> merge functionality.

This would be nice in any case.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, G. Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 30.06.08, MonAmiPierrot wrote:

 As you wrote, seems to work perfectly, Michel, but it installed Lyx version
 1.4.3 while I used to work on my thesis file with a (Windows) Lyx 1.5.5.
 b) just update the LyX2LyX converter:

   Copy the files under LYXDIR/lyx2lyx/ from the 1.5.5 installation
   to LYXDIR/lyx2lyx on the eee.  (Make a backup copy of the original
   content of the target directory first!)

   (LYXDIR is, where LyX stores its files, here on Debian it's
   /usr/share/lyx.)

   Now the old lyx will know about newer file versions.

I think you will also need /lyx-1.5.5/lib/unicodesymbols.

I have tarred all the files you need, and put them up at
   http://www.ucc.asn.au/~mccabedj/lyx2lyx.tar.gz
(Since in general, it is best not to install software from people you
don't know, It might be better to just copy the files from a lyx-1.5.5
install somewhere else.)


-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:22 PM, MonAmiPierrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going to try this solution, anyway in the debian repository I found same
 packages excepte they were related to the 1.5.5 version.

 1. Is there a reason you specify an earlier version?

These packages are for a later version of debian, and may not work with the eppc

 2. ...sorry, I'm a REAL 100% DUMMY. How to install these .deb packages?

sudo dpkg -i PackageName.deb

 3. Why I need these unicode symbols? (of course I need them, I write in
 italian and use several other languages, I meant: I never installed
 something like that in lyx for windows...)

Because the new lyx2lyx expects them to be there, and will crash if
they do not exist.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, G. Milde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 30.06.08, MonAmiPierrot wrote:

 As you wrote, seems to work perfectly, Michel, but it installed Lyx version
 1.4.3 while I used to work on my thesis file with a (Windows) Lyx 1.5.5.
 b) just update the LyX2LyX converter:

   Copy the files under LYXDIR/lyx2lyx/ from the 1.5.5 installation
   to LYXDIR/lyx2lyx on the eee.  (Make a backup copy of the original
   content of the target directory first!)

   (LYXDIR is, where LyX stores its files, here on Debian it's
   /usr/share/lyx.)

   Now the old lyx will know about newer file versions.

I think you will also need /lyx-1.5.5/lib/unicodesymbols.

I have tarred all the files you need, and put them up at
   http://www.ucc.asn.au/~mccabedj/lyx2lyx.tar.gz
(Since in general, it is best not to install software from people you
don't know, It might be better to just copy the files from a lyx-1.5.5
install somewhere else.)


-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:22 PM, MonAmiPierrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going to try this solution, anyway in the debian repository I found same
 packages excepte they were related to the 1.5.5 version.

 1. Is there a reason you specify an earlier version?

These packages are for a later version of debian, and may not work with the eppc

 2. ...sorry, I'm a REAL 100% DUMMY. How to install these .deb packages?

sudo dpkg -i PackageName.deb

 3. Why I need these unicode symbols? (of course I need them, I write in
 italian and use several other languages, I meant: I never installed
 something like that in lyx for windows...)

Because the new lyx2lyx expects them to be there, and will crash if
they do not exist.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 3:56 PM, G. Milde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 30.06.08, MonAmiPierrot wrote:
>
>> As you wrote, seems to work perfectly, Michel, but it installed Lyx version
>> 1.4.3 while I used to work on my thesis file with a (Windows) Lyx 1.5.5.
> b) just update the LyX2LyX converter:
>
>   Copy the files under LYXDIR/lyx2lyx/ from the 1.5.5 installation
>   to LYXDIR/lyx2lyx on the eee.  (Make a backup copy of the original
>   content of the target directory first!)
>
>   (LYXDIR is, where LyX stores its files, here on Debian it's
>   /usr/share/lyx.)
>
>   Now the "old" lyx will know about newer file versions.

I think you will also need /lyx-1.5.5/lib/unicodesymbols.

I have tarred all the files you need, and put them up at
   http://www.ucc.asn.au/~mccabedj/lyx2lyx.tar.gz
(Since in general, it is best not to install software from people you
don't know, It might be better to just copy the files from a lyx-1.5.5
install somewhere else.)


-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jul 1, 2008 at 8:22 PM, MonAmiPierrot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I'm going to try this solution, anyway in the debian repository I found same
> packages excepte they were related to the 1.5.5 version.
>
> 1. Is there a reason you specify an earlier version?

These packages are for a later version of debian, and may not work with the eppc

> 2. ...sorry, I'm a REAL 100% DUMMY. How to install these .deb packages?

sudo dpkg -i PackageName.deb

> 3. Why I need these unicode symbols? (of course I need them, I write in
> italian and use several other languages, I meant: I never installed
> something like that in lyx for windows...)

Because the new lyx2lyx expects them to be there, and will crash if
they do not exist.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM, MonAmiPierrot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I own a ASUS eeePC, and I wonder if anyone tried to install and use LyX on
 its Xandros OS.
 Any impression?

I don't remember the details, but I tried to install LyX from etch,
which didn't work. Then I tried to build lyx from source. That didn't
work either.

ASUS's  repositories are minimal, so if you want to use repositories,
you basically have to use etch. And there build environment seemed
quite broken to me.  I am planning on installing Ubuntu Hardy on mine,
so I can actually install software.

 View this message in context: 
 http://www.nabble.com/LyX-on-Asus-eeePC--tp18181493p18181493.html
 Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM, MonAmiPierrot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I own a ASUS eeePC, and I wonder if anyone tried to install and use LyX on
 its Xandros OS.
 Any impression?

I don't remember the details, but I tried to install LyX from etch,
which didn't work. Then I tried to build lyx from source. That didn't
work either.

ASUS's  repositories are minimal, so if you want to use repositories,
you basically have to use etch. And there build environment seemed
quite broken to me.  I am planning on installing Ubuntu Hardy on mine,
so I can actually install software.

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 http://www.nabble.com/LyX-on-Asus-eeePC--tp18181493p18181493.html
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-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: LyX on Asus eeePC?

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 10:35 PM, MonAmiPierrot
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I own a ASUS eeePC, and I wonder if anyone tried to install and use LyX on
> its Xandros OS.
> Any impression?

I don't remember the details, but I tried to install LyX from etch,
which didn't work. Then I tried to build lyx from source. That didn't
work either.

ASUS's  repositories are minimal, so if you want to use repositories,
you basically have to use etch. And there build environment seemed
quite broken to me.  I am planning on installing Ubuntu Hardy on mine,
so I can actually install software.

> View this message in context: 
> http://www.nabble.com/LyX-on-Asus-eeePC--tp18181493p18181493.html
> Sent from the LyX - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: New Error Messages After Upgrade to LyX/Mac 1.5.4

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Bruce Pourciau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Missing $ inserted.
 Extra }, or forgotten $.
 LaTeX Error: Bad math environment delimiter.
 LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item.
 Missing } inserted.
...
 Anybody know what's going on? (NB: I'm a LyX intermediate and a TeX novice.)

Not really, these messages can be caused by pretty much anything.

Try cutting text until it finally compiles. Then uncut text until you
find where the bit that is causing trouble. (It is quite often that
this is needed. Perhaps there should be an automated tool to do this?)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: New Error Messages After Upgrade to LyX/Mac 1.5.4

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Bruce Pourciau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not really, these messages can be caused by pretty much anything.

 Try cutting text until it finally compiles. Then uncut text until you
 find where the bit that is causing trouble. (It is quite often that
 this is needed. Perhaps there should be an automated tool to do this?)

 But why would it compile in 1.3.4 and not in 1.5.4?

I think that in 1.3.4 View - PDF didn't output any PDF specific
code where as 1.5.4 does. Does View-DVI/PS work?

Did you do the full upgrade and upgade LaTeX or just upgrade LyX?

It is also possible some other file has gone missing/been changed
since, and that this has nothing to do with lyx 1.3.4 vs 1.5.4.

 I can try rewriting all
 the places where an error pops up,

It is possible that all the errors have a single cause.

 but I'd prefer not to, if it can be
 avoided.

 Bruce

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Lyx crashes in Hardy Heron

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:04 AM, elswood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have installed lyX 1.53 from the Ubuntu 8.4 repositories.  But it
 frequently crashes when accessing lyx document files on my computer.  Is
 this a bug that is fixed with lyX 1.55?  And how do I install it?  (It
 isn't in the repositories.)  If someone could let me know how to proceed
 I would be grateful.

 Thanks!

Upgrading to lyx 1.5.5 fixed the problem for me.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: New Error Messages After Upgrade to LyX/Mac 1.5.4

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Bruce Pourciau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Missing $ inserted.
 Extra }, or forgotten $.
 LaTeX Error: Bad math environment delimiter.
 LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item.
 Missing } inserted.
...
 Anybody know what's going on? (NB: I'm a LyX intermediate and a TeX novice.)

Not really, these messages can be caused by pretty much anything.

Try cutting text until it finally compiles. Then uncut text until you
find where the bit that is causing trouble. (It is quite often that
this is needed. Perhaps there should be an automated tool to do this?)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: New Error Messages After Upgrade to LyX/Mac 1.5.4

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:59 PM, Bruce Pourciau
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not really, these messages can be caused by pretty much anything.

 Try cutting text until it finally compiles. Then uncut text until you
 find where the bit that is causing trouble. (It is quite often that
 this is needed. Perhaps there should be an automated tool to do this?)

 But why would it compile in 1.3.4 and not in 1.5.4?

I think that in 1.3.4 View - PDF didn't output any PDF specific
code where as 1.5.4 does. Does View-DVI/PS work?

Did you do the full upgrade and upgade LaTeX or just upgrade LyX?

It is also possible some other file has gone missing/been changed
since, and that this has nothing to do with lyx 1.3.4 vs 1.5.4.

 I can try rewriting all
 the places where an error pops up,

It is possible that all the errors have a single cause.

 but I'd prefer not to, if it can be
 avoided.

 Bruce

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: Lyx crashes in Hardy Heron

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:04 AM, elswood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have installed lyX 1.53 from the Ubuntu 8.4 repositories.  But it
 frequently crashes when accessing lyx document files on my computer.  Is
 this a bug that is fixed with lyX 1.55?  And how do I install it?  (It
 isn't in the repositories.)  If someone could let me know how to proceed
 I would be grateful.

 Thanks!

Upgrading to lyx 1.5.5 fixed the problem for me.

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia

Re: New Error Messages After Upgrade to LyX/Mac 1.5.4

[John McCabe-Dansted]

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Bruce Pourciau
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Missing $ inserted.
> Extra }, or forgotten $.
> LaTeX Error: Bad math environment delimiter.
> LaTeX Error: Something's wrong--perhaps a missing \item.
> Missing } inserted.
...
> Anybody know what's going on? (NB: I'm a LyX intermediate and a TeX novice.)

Not really, these messages can be caused by pretty much anything.

Try cutting text until it finally compiles. Then uncut text until you
find where the bit that is causing trouble. (It is quite often that
this is needed. Perhaps there should be an automated tool to do this?)

-- 
John C. McCabe-Dansted
PhD Student
University of Western Australia