Re: Junk mail

[Michael]

On Aug 11, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Andrew Brown wrote:

 On 11 août 2012, at 16:24, LuKreme wrote:
 
 On 10 Aug 2012, at 08:38 , Andrew Brown li...@c18.net wrote:
 I get a deal of spam, and have to check it all to make sure that there are 
 no legitimate messages in there.
 
 I decided to get clever and set up an auto reply for all messages received 
 from those not among my previous recipients, offering real people the 
 chance to contact me by other means.
 
 This is a *terrible* idea. Not only are most of the messages going to 
 bounce, but the ones that don’t are spamming innocent people who’s email 
 addresses where forged.
 
 Stop doing this. Now. Never ever *EVER* auto reply to spam.
 
 Yes, it does not work at all, as I soon discovered. The only viable option 
 seems to be to delete all mail unseen from those to whom I have not written, 
 and put up with the consequences.

There is another option. Gmail does a terrific job of filtering out spam.

Now that Google has been caught cheating and violating privacy, you might not 
trust them any longer -- I don't.
But it's the only viable option I've found for dealing with spam.

 
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Re: Junk mail

[Michael]

 There is another option. Gmail does a terrific job of filtering out spam.
 
 Yes, and pretty much else too. My number one colleague, with whom I exchange 
 hundreds of mails a year, uses Gmail, and none of my messages get through. 
 The Gmail pages explaining why would take centuries to read and eons to 
 implement, so I use one of his secondary addresses, when I remember.
 
 This is your colleuges inbox and therefore his responsibility to let your 
 email address be flaged as to be put in his inbox. All addresses in the inbox 
 owners address book could or most often even should be allowed to get 
 through. It is often just a matter of setting a preference option for this to 
 happen and nothing complicated.

That's a good point. I had to train Gmail for about a month because one mailing 
list in particular would wind up in spam a lot.

But after a month, the error rate dropped to almost zero.

Still, privacy is an issue. As I said, my trust for Google dropped to zero 
overnight. 

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Re: middle button

[Michael]

 I have a mac book and no mouse. How can I do 'middle click' on the touchpad?

Options:
http://magicprefs.com/
http://clement.beffa.org/labs/projects/middleclick/
http://www.boastr.de/

I was looking for this just this morning, and found those three.
Have not yet tested them, but magicprefs has been downloaded for testing.

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Upgrading a backup disk to encrypted, and it died: help

[Michael]

]: 
Partition:  disk0s4 (Backups) - 0x7feafaecca90
Jul 14 17:45:05 keybounceMBP Disk Utility[820]: Optical Device: 
SuperDrive - 0x7feafaa4f190
Jul 14 17:45:05 keybounceMBP Disk Utility[820]: 
=


My questions:
1. Is there any way to recover the old data on the drive (there were partitions 
with backups for my computers, as well as another computer, plus additional 
video files I had put on that drive for space reasons).

2. If not, is there a way to at least make it usable again?

3. Is complete loss of everything if the encryption is interrupted something 
that should be considered a bug and reported to Apple?

4. Is there any way to turn on File Vault for the UserData partition?

keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount
/dev/disk0s2 on / (hfs, local, journaled)
devfs on /dev (devfs, local, nobrowse)
map -hosts on /net (autofs, nosuid, automounted, nobrowse)
map auto_home on /home (autofs, automounted, nobrowse)
/dev/disk0s3 on /Volumes/UserData (hfs, local, journaled)
/dev/disk0s4 on /Volumes/Backups (hfs, local, journaled)
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ ls -ld /Users
4 lrwxr-xr-x 1 root admin 24 Mar 10  2012 /Users - /Volumes/UserData/Users//


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Re: Upgrading a backup disk to encrypted, and it died: help

[Michael]

So now for an update. 

After turning the machine off, waiting, and turning it back on. Would not boot 
up.

Playing around in single user mode: turns out that the root partition would not 
mount (complaining about being unable to open the journal), yet fsck -f would 
pass it as good. Trying to boot normally would fail. (can't mount the root).

Went over to Lion Recovery. Fsck there worked; Verify Disk complained about 
the journal, Repair Disk succeeded. USB drive could be inserted, and it 
seemed to work just fine -- all the partitions show up. Verify Disk at the 
drive level complains; Verify Disk at the three standard partitions work.

Verify Disk at the encrypted partition fails.

Rebooting, and this time it boots up. Lion Recovery was able to clean the root, 
and mark it clean; system is now happy.

But ... when I log in, I am asked for the password to unlock the drive. And it 
does not accept the password.

The wonders of hidden passwords -- I could not verify what I was typing in 
when I entered the password, all I know is that if I mistyped it, I had two 
identical mistypings. I tried a few plausible variants of capitalizings, extra 
spaces, etc; nothing.

I was never asked to make a recovery password. I was never asked about storing 
a password with Apple.

I even tried my own account password (I am marked as a user allowed to 
administer the computer). No good.

Is there any way to recover this? Disk Utility.app now complains that the drive 
contains a core storage physical partition, and it won't do anything to the 
drive (tells me to use the command line diskutil), and I don't know how to use 
diskutil to manipulate anything more than emergency ejects / getting 
information about partitions.



On Jul 14, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Michael wrote:

 I decided that I wanted to turn on encryption for my hard drive. I figured 
 that 10.7.5 and file vault 2 have been out for long enough that any problems 
 are solved. Right?
 
 Well, as far as I could tell, it will only encrypt my root partition -- which 
 only has Apple software, not my personal stuff. So it's a no-go.
 
 I did, however, discover that I could at least encrypt my backup USB drive. I 
 thought that was a good idea. So I told Time Machine to start encrypting it.
 
 In the middle of the encryption, the drive decided it had been disconnected 
 (can happen if the cable gets knocked -- very loose/weak connection, and my 
 cats will walk on my desk).
 
 At this point, the drive does not appear to be there to the system. Plugging 
 it in does not show anything in Finder. diskutil list does not show it. 
 Disk Utility.app has spent 20+ minutes spinning a cursor just trying to 
 gather disk information.
 
 Is there any way to recover/salvage this drive? 
 
 Somehow, I was expecting that the preparing disk for encryption stage would 
 involve using the free space on the drive to build a new set of metadata for 
 the partitions/file systems/etc, and leave the old GUID table / metadata 
 intact until it was all done and just needed two or three blocks written out 
 with the updated data. Instead, as I said, I cannot even get a The disk 
 cannot be read. Initialize? yes/no prompt, nor any indication it is seen.
 
 Details from the console log:
 
 Here is where I started to upgrade my backup drive to encrypted:
 
 Jul 14 16:02:02 keybounceMBP corestoraged[499]: 0x7fff7f07d960 unlockLVF: 
 LVF=8E72EC34-C9FB-407F-8735-EDCCDA44064C, AES-XTS, status = Unlocked
 Jul 14 16:02:02 keybounceMBP com.apple.kextd[12]: Unable to get DiskArb info 
 for corestorage logical volume object.
 Jul 14 16:02:03 keybounceMBP corestoraged[499]: 0x7fff7f07d960 
 startBackgroundConversion: background conversion started.
 Jul 14 16:02:04 keybounceMBP UserEventAgent[13]: com.apple.backupd-auto 
 launchd job enabled
 Jul 14 16:02:04 keybounceMBP UserEventAgent[13]: com.apple.backupd-wake 
 launchd job enabled
 Jul 14 16:02:04 keybounceMBP UserEventAgent[13]: com.apple.backupd-attach 
 launchd job enabled
 Jul 14 16:02:05 keybounceMBP AppleFileServer[469]: _Assert: 
 /SourceCache/afpserver/afpserver-585.7/afpserver/../afpserver/SharePointSyncTask.cpp,
  215 (4294967253)
 Jul 14 16:02:35: --- last message repeated 4 times ---
 Jul 14 16:04:03 keybounceMBP com.apple.backupd[516]: Starting standard backup
 Jul 14 16:04:04 keybounceMBP com.apple.backupd[516]: Backing up to: 
 /Volumes/System Time Machine/Backups.backupdb
 Jul 14 16:04:11 keybounceMBP com.apple.backupd[516]: Event store UUIDs don't 
 match for volume: UserData
 Jul 14 16:04:11 keybounceMBP com.apple.backupd[516]: Event store UUIDs don't 
 match for volume: Backups
 Jul 14 16:04:11 keybounceMBP com.apple.backupd[516]: Event store UUIDs don't 
 match for volume: MainSystem
 Jul 14 16:04:12 keybounceMBP com.apple.backupd[516]: Deep event scan at 
 path:/Volumes/UserData reason:must scan subdirs|new event db|
 
 ... Disk cable got touched ...
 
 Jul 14 16:09:06 keybounceMBP com.apple.revisiond[65]: [ERROR] 
 GSManager.m

Re: Upgrading a backup disk to encrypted, and it died: help

[Michael]

On Jul 14, 2013, at 9:01 PM, LuKreme wrote:

 On 14 Jul 2013, at 21:14 , Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Verify Disk at the encrypted partition fails.
 
 You are backing up your system to the same physical drive?
 
 Don't do that.

That external drive has four partitions; one has a backup of my initial lion 
install, one has a backup of a second machine, one has a backup of my 10.6 
install, and the fourth (the biggest) has both my primary system backup, and 
some video recordings that were tossed onto that drive for space reasons.

And that is the partition that got lost.

 I've had poor luck with encrypted backup partitions. Despite 1) knowing the 
 password I used and 2) having the password in the keychain and 30 having the 
 password in 1Password, the system still insisted the password for the backup 
 part ion was wrong. Had to reformat.

Oh, no, no, please do not say that ...

Well, so I lose the videos. They were not critical. And I lose my last month of 
backups ... 

But I would think that encrypted / protected data would be important. Does it 
really not work well?

===

How do you manage encrypted -- or compressed partitions -- from the command 
line? While playing with diskutil, it seems that it does support compressed 
partitions, but I never saw any GUI tools for that.

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Can a shell script easily find itself?

[Michael]

I feel silly for asking this. But I just realized I don't try this very often.

Is there a way for a shell script to find itself? Or more precisely, the 
directory it is in?

I am trying to run a program that wants an ini file specified on the command 
line; but it defaults to the assumption of having its config file in /etc 
unless you tell it where it is. And rather than a one-line script that hard 
codes a directory, I'd rather that it (the script) can tell where it is 
located, to use an ini file there.

(Yea, a one-line script to just pass a config file argument to a program.)

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Re: Can a shell script easily find itself?

[Michael]

 Use the command pwd.

Nope. That tells me where the user is, not where the shell script is.

 On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 I feel silly for asking this. But I just realized I don't try this very often.
 
 Is there a way for a shell script to find itself? Or more precisely, the 
 directory it is in?
 
 I am trying to run a program that wants an ini file specified on the command 
 line; but it defaults to the assumption of having its config file in /etc 
 unless you tell it where it is. And rather than a one-line script that hard 
 codes a directory, I'd rather that it (the script) can tell where it is 
 located, to use an ini file there.
 
 (Yea, a one-line script to just pass a config file argument to a program.)
 
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Re: Can a shell script easily find itself?

[Michael]

 Hm, here is a discussion on Stack Overflow of your question.
 
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324348504578606493979321554.html

I think that's the wrong paste :-).

But in response to that article: Our constitution puts the U.S. Supreme court 
at the top; international courts would only have a valid say if they were 
inferior to the Supreme Court. And congress cannot modify the constitution by 
treaty; a treaty that violates the constitution is not valid.

http://StrictConstitution.BlogSpot.com -- my own blog on that and similar 
issues.

 On Jul 21, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Use the command pwd.
 
 Nope. That tells me where the user is, not where the shell script is.
 
 Are you sure? If you do say,
 
 SCRIPT_DIR=`pwd`
 echo $SCRIPT_DIR
 
 the echo should return the directory the script ran in. 
 
 100% sure.
 
 keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ pwd
 /Users/michael/Applications
 keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ cat ~/bin/testdir 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 pwd
 
 SCRIPT_DIR=`pwd`
 echo $SCRIPT_DIR
 
 keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ testdir
 /Users/michael/Applications
 /Users/michael/Applications
 keybounceMBP:Applications michael$ 
 
 I want it to return my ~/bin directory in this case.
 
 
 On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 I feel silly for asking this. But I just realized I don't try this very 
 often.
 
 Is there a way for a shell script to find itself? Or more precisely, the 
 directory it is in?
 
 I am trying to run a program that wants an ini file specified on the 
 command line; but it defaults to the assumption of having its config file 
 in /etc unless you tell it where it is. And rather than a one-line script 
 that hard codes a directory, I'd rather that it (the script) can tell 
 where it is located, to use an ini file there.
 
 (Yea, a one-line script to just pass a config file argument to a program.)
 
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Re: Can a shell script easily find itself?

[Michael]

 Hm, here is a discussion on Stack Overflow of your question.
 
 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324348504578606493979321554.html
 
 I think that's the wrong paste :-).

Correct one:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4774054/reliable-way-for-a-bash-script-to-get-the-full-path-to-itself


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Can partitions be moved; can several free gaps be combined?

[Michael]

With Disk Utility in 10.7.5, it's pretty simple to shrink partitions.

Can the result of several free gaps be combined; can those shrunk partitions be 
moved so that the free space is all in one place for allocating something else?

(Note that the only way I know of to grow a partition is to extend its end 
farther; if I could join two partitions into one, I could just make a new one 
in front, join them, and then shrink the result. I don't know how to join two 
partitions. Are the partition tools/utilities really this limited, or am I 
ignorant of something?)

(I know that there is a gpt terminal command, but it seems very restricted 
compared to linux's fdisk.)

===

I want to shrink the last partition on a drive; this partition holds some old, 
archival time machine backups (think of it as a last resort, emergency boot 
partition -- it dates to just after running migration assistant initially). 
However, Disk Utility won't shrink it. Is this because it has time machine 
data, or is there something else that causes this problem?

Is there anything that can be done? I have enough space on an external USB 
drive to clone it; can it be cloned to a slightly smaller version of itself?

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Unable to burn a Lion install DVD -- what am I doing wrong?

[Michael]

I'd like help to burn a Lion install DVD.

I have downloaded the lion installer from Apple.
I have found the InstallESD.dmg file inside of it.

File size is: 4,706,314,014 bytes (4.71 GB on disk)

Attempting to burn it from the left hand list in Disk Utility, onto what I 
thought was a standard DVD (if it makes a difference, it's a DVD+R from Office 
Depot; it has an rw logo on it, but is not erasable) gives the message The 
disc inserted does not have enough free space.

What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Upgrading a backup disk to encrypted, and it died: ** Potential solution for the next victum

[Michael]

On Aug 1, 2013, at 8:41 AM, Michael_google gmail_Gersten wrote:

 So I'm asking again for some help here.
 
 As I said before: I attempted to encrypt a time machine partition.
 Things went bad.
 
 At this point, I'd be happy if I could figure out how to reformat the
 partition and start over.
 
 On a separate note, is there a way to do file vault encryption of a
 second partition on my main drive? (The partition that has /Users and
 my home directory). An encrypted disk image has all the issues of time
 machine not working properly; a partition on my main drive won't have
 a cable disconnect, and as long as my time machine drive is
 un-encrypted, I should be able to recover from any problems, right?

So, I've managed to figure out how to reformat the partition, and start over. 
Oddly, while disk utility will tell you that it won't do anything to the drive 
with a core storage partition on it, it will still let you reformat the core 
storage partition. All well and good, right?

Sigh. Tonight, I found out while browsing around that this has happened to 
others.

Quote:
I think that the reason that this encryption failed was because I interrupted 
the encryption process in the middle.
I thought that this was going to be like in the Filevault 2 encryption in 
Settings, that if you reboot the machine, as soon as you are logged in again, 
it simply continues.

For any reason, the encryption failed and it didn't continue and was stacked in 
the middle of the encryption process. This was the reason of my problem of not 
being able to decrypt my hard-drive after login, and also what made possible 
that I've been able to get all my stuff back.

For the operating system this was an encrypted hard-drive. The password didn't 
work because the encryption process didn't finnish so for some reason, to put 
the right decryption password didn't work.

Then I used Data rescue 3, as the hard-drive was not completely encrypted, for 
this application was still possible to reach all the not yet encrypted data. 
After scanning the hard-drive for several hours, Data Rescue 3 found all the 
stuff there with the right folder hierarchy and from there I was able to get 
back all my stuff.

Just in case this could help anybody in a similar situation.
/Quote.

I had not heard of Data Rescue 3 before. But it's nice to know that someone 
else has run into this, and solved it. Sadly, I had formatted and restarted a 
fresh time machine dump onto this drive first ...

I had also asked about doing file vault encryption of the second partition with 
my home folder on it. Turns out that someone has solved that. 
https://github.com/jridgewell/unlock
I have not yet looked at the code, but it seems to do just what is wanted.


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Java visual memory observations ...

[Michael]

So I'd like to know how to use the visual display of memory allocations in Java 
on Mac OS. I'm using Java 6.

Apparently, and I'm not sure if I understand this correctly, there are three 
different tools for microsoft windows based systems: jconsole, visualvm, 
jvisualvm.

Which are available for Mac OS / Apple's J6?

(The program in question does not run on J7 on Macs.)

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Reducing battery charge to try to prolong battery life ...

[Michael]

So as I understand it, keeping the battery at a lower charge level is supposed 
to prolong the life of the battery.

With that in mind, I'd like to know if anyone knows of software to restrict the 
charge level, or any way to disable the charging of the battery while plugged 
in.

The idea/thinking is to keep the battery around 50-60% charged, and leave it 
plugged in but not charging under normal operation, and when I'm planning on 
traveling, then charge it up to full.

Anyone know of anything for this?

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Re: Reducing battery charge to try to prolong battery life ...

[Michael]

On 2013/11/19, at 8:25 AM, Arno Hautala wrote:
 
 
 Siracusa would be your best friend.

The only Siracusa I can find related to macintoshes is a reviewer for Ars 
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Determining excluded files from Time Machine?

[Michael]

Is there an easy way to determine which files are excluded from a time machine 
backup?

The backup itself does have a plist containing the standard excludes, and the 
fixed-path excludes. But I'm concerned about finding files tagged from tmutil 
addexclusion. Those are not listed in the backup, and I can't figure out an 
easy way to find them (they get an extended attribute, and I'm not sure how to 
search for those.)

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Re: Surprised ...

[Michael]

 It pisses me off when I see these swapfile explosions.  Fifteen years ago if 
 you'd given me the specs of Apple's puniest 2013 computer, and told me a 
 browser couldn't trivially have 200 web pages open at once, and that it would 
 matter if I left the browser running for a day, I would have thought you were 
 nuts.
 
 --Andy

Agreed. I think that web browser designers have gotten sloppy and we have all 
the resources in the world mentality. I think that whoever design the current 
HTML standards should have to try to implement a reference implementation that 
does 100% perfect, in a 32 MB machine.

Yes, I said MB. 32 MB is a huge amount of space for programs and data. There is 
no reason, at all, that I should need 400 MB just to start up a browser. On a 1 
GB PPC machine, I could easily browse the web with room left over. Heck, back 
on a 32 MB 68040 machine, web browsing was relatively simple and easy.

There's no reason for browsers to be gigantic sloths.
There's no reason for a standard that says Remote execution of arbitrary code 
cannot be prevented by the end user without addons to modify the browser.

And there's no reason for a web browser not to run that remote untrusted code 
in a sandbox that can be dumped if it's a memory leak, or at least identifiable 
as to which sandbox is the leak.

Fifteen years ago, 1999, ... was that when FF 3 was new? ... It was after the 
end of the pizza box, I think it was post tables, before the whole div and CSS 
layers and the web page is now a layout language thing too over. 
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Re: Swap file tracking

[Michael]

10.7.5 definitely will reduce swapfile size when programs free up memory. 
Today, for example, I was at 8 GB of swap file, and now I'm down to 4 GB.

Earlier versions would not; at least as recently as 10.4, and I think 10.5 on 
the PPC, swapfile space would only be reclaimed if everything after point X was 
free. It would not compress the swapfile, but instead relied on everything 
going away. Naturally, that didn't happen often.

I consistently find that if I log out, and log back in, swap used is down to 
around 250 MB, yet for whatever reason, the swap files (there are more than 1) 
will never go below 1 GB of disk space.

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Re: how do I put some (or all) of home directory on second disk?

[Michael]

On 2013/12/21, at 11:39 AM, Macs R We wrote:

 She had established her iPhoto library on an external drive, and something 
 she did or some way she disconnected the drive ended up with iPhoto 
 establishing a new iPhoto library off /Volumes but resident on her root disk, 
 that was only visible when her external drive was disconnected. This should 
 never have happened, and I'm not even sure how the operating system allowed 
 it.

You know what this reminds me of? When I played around with union mounts, and 
discovered that any unix application would see the union mount just fine, while 
anything based around appkit would see either one side, or the other side, but 
never both.

Apparently, there are two different sets of low-level file access routines, and 
the posix calls are NOT the real raw OS interface -- there's a hidden OS with 
a bunch of different calls underneath, and that OS doesn't know about union 
mounts.

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Running a GUI program as root (setuid)

[Michael]

Is there any way to permit a program to run as root?

10.6.8 did; 10.7.5 does not. I'm not even sure when the SUID bit got turned off.

The program in question does not write data out; it only reads, so I figure 
it's safe to allow it to run as root. It's a tool for analyzing Time Machine 
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Usability: 10.8 versus 10.75?

[Michael]

I have some questions on the usability of 10.8 versus 10.7.5.

First: I have tried using 10.9 at an apple store. Between the finder's refusal 
to accept opening directories in new windows as a default behavior, and the new 
iMovie's dumbing down (no longer allows filtering by keywords in the event 
viewer, etc), 10.9 is just unusable for me.

For 10.8, I had heard all sorts of This is iOS invading the desktop / the 
system has been dumbed down. I'm now at the point of seeing three different 
programs wanting 10.8 (two for the improved OpenGL; no clue what the third 
wants), and an upgrade being kinda important.

So: What are the usability problems for 10.8 for a power user that regards the 
Gui system as a useful tool?
Where are the iOS / iPad compatibility gets in your way points?

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10.9: Library/Mobile Documents ???

[Michael]

Can someone explain what is happening with the Library/Mobile Documents 
directory in 10.9.4? I have not used icloud, nor used TextEdit's Create your 
documents in the cloud feature (did not even know it existed until last 
night), yet I still have stuff in there. What's going on?

(Porting from 10.7.5 to 10.9.4)
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Cloning a directory tree

[Michael]

Is there any way to clone a directory tree in OS 7 or 9?

By clone, I mean:
timestamps (including Ctime)
extended atributes
ACL's

I have tried both rsync (version 3.0.9) and cp (version 8.21), both newer than 
Apple's, and they both fail to maintain Ctime timestamps on directories, as 
well as xattr's (such as com.apple.FinderInfo).

Hmm, just had the idea of trying tmutil to restore to a new location, let me 
try that:

OK, that at least keeps xattr's, but not timestamps. Is there a way to do a 
perfect clone?

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Re: Cloning a directory tree

[Michael]

On 2014-07-16, at 9:28 AM, LuKreme wrote:

 On 16 Jul 2014, at 09:43 , Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is there any way to clone a directory tree in OS 7 or 9?
 
 Command-D?
 
 I have tried both rsync (version 3.0.9) and cp (version 8.21),
 
 Neither of these run on Mac OS 9 nor System 7.
Sorry. Os X 7 or 9.

I don't think of calling it lion, and I'm not sure that I'm spelling 
mavericks correctly.

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Re: Cloning a directory tree

[Michael]

On 2014-07-16, at 9:15 AM, George N. White III wrote:

 I gether you are looking for a command-line tool.  Have you considered ditto

Yep. Also failed, although I forgot what it messed up.

I do remember running into the: ditto foo bar is not the same as cp -r foo 
bar issue.

Ok, retested: same ctime issue for directories.
But it does manage extended attributes, so that's a step up from cp/rsync, and 
the same as tmutil restore (without needing it backed up first).

Ctime is going to be modified whenever a file is created. So it would need to 
be set on the way up on a directory, not when the directory is first made. (Odd 
that the mtimes do get set correctly -- those also get updated on 
file/subfolder creation. So they must be being set on the way up). I suppose 
it's understandable that a generic unix tool doesn't know how to set a Ctime, 
but I thought that the private API used by apple's file manager does support 
changing that. So any apple supplied / apple aware tool would be able to use 
those file manager calls and update things. Right? (Or am I looking for 
something that does not exist?)

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Re: Restoring account from TM onto a different machine

[Michael]

You can use tmutil restore, from the command line, to restore files off of 
the drive.

You will probably need to run it as root, and the files will have the same 
owner UID as before. So, a chown -R will probably be needed.

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Re: Java error message in OS X Yosemite

[Michael]

So if Java 7 is not supported in OS 10.10, what do I do if I have a java 
program that requires J6 or J7, and won't run in J8?

(A minor language change trips a bug; the bug is harmless, along the order 
of a string constant being written to in old C programs prior to GCC 
enforcing the constant. )

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Re: App store/software update won't update 1 app?

[Michael]

Make sure you do not have another copy of the application on your system.

And here is the issue I have with appstore: How do I tell which app will be 
updated?

Standard safety procedure is to have a different partition for different 
OS's, right? So I've got one partition with OS X 10.9.5, a second partition 
with a copy of 10.9.5 that is ready to try a 10.10 update, another partition 
that has the 10.7.5 data that I used to migrate from (and I'm looking for a way 
to set up a virtual machine to run 10.7.5 in the future because at least two 
programs that I use won't work in 10.10 without buying an update, and I hate 
10.9.5).

But in general: I've got multiple copies of XCode, which wants an update. I've 
got multiple copies of some programs that I've gotten from the appstore. At no 
time do I ever see a way to specify which disk to install on, or where do 
you want to install this program, or Drag this into appliations anymore -- 
everything is now smarter than me, but assumes only one OS will be installed 
on the computer, and that anything, anywhere, is valid for use no matter if 
it's in a .dmg that wasn't mounted and contains some really OLD stuff that 
should not be used anymore, kept for reference as an old computer image, but 
still shows up on a right click and open with xxx.

Sigh.

How do I manage app store updates when there is more than one copy of the app 
on the system, and I want to update the one that is associated with this OS, on 
this root partition, and not the one on some other partition or disk image?

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Re: App store/software update won't update 1 app?

[Michael]

On 2014-10-27, at 1:08 AM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:

 Temporarily dismount all other boot partitions before opening the App Store. 

Err ... simple ... yea I like that.
Thank you.

 
 
 
 On Oct 26, 2014, at 8:12 PM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Make sure you do not have another copy of the application on your system.
 
 And here is the issue I have with appstore: How do I tell which app will be 
 updated?
 
 Standard safety procedure is to have a different partition for different 
 OS's, right? So I've got one partition with OS X 10.9.5, a second partition 
 with a copy of 10.9.5 that is ready to try a 10.10 update, another partition 
 that has the 10.7.5 data that I used to migrate from (and I'm looking for a 
 way to set up a virtual machine to run 10.7.5 in the future because at least 
 two programs that I use won't work in 10.10 without buying an update, and I 
 hate 10.9.5).
 
 But in general: I've got multiple copies of XCode, which wants an update. 
 I've got multiple copies of some programs that I've gotten from the 
 appstore. At no time do I ever see a way to specify which disk to install 
 on, or where do you want to install this program, or Drag this into 
 appliations anymore -- everything is now smarter than me, but assumes 
 only one OS will be installed on the computer, and that anything, anywhere, 
 is valid for use no matter if it's in a .dmg that wasn't mounted and 
 contains some really OLD stuff that should not be used anymore, kept for 
 reference as an old computer image, but still shows up on a right click and 
 open with xxx.
 
 Sigh.
 
 How do I manage app store updates when there is more than one copy of the 
 app on the system, and I want to update the one that is associated with this 
 OS, on this root partition, and not the one on some other partition or disk 
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Putting a dashboard widget on a normal desktop?

[Michael]

Is there any way to put a dashboard widget on the normal desktop?

(this widget in question displays internal temperatures and fan speeds.)

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Using mdfind -- how?!?

[Michael]

What am I doing wrong here?

keybounceMBP:tmp michael$ mdfind -name Xcode.app
keybounceMBP:tmp michael$ ls -d /Applications/Xcode.app/
0 /Applications/Xcode.app//

Mdfind does not return anything, yet it is there.

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Re: Using mdfind -- how?!?

[Michael]

 
 -name search only match on the filename portion of bundles.
 
 It may not be quite that simple, but I know it works as expected with .pdf 
 .txt .jpg etc extensions, but things like .app and .sparsebundle are only 
 matched on the name portion.
 
 I don’t think this is new/

But it's not very useful.

mdfind -name Xcode

returns every file with Xcode anywhere in the filename. Case insensitive.

What's the proper way to use mdfind?

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Converting a 16 bit text file to 8 bit text (removing every other null)

[Michael]

What's a simple way to convert a text file that has every other character 
null into a plain normal text file?

I tried using vim: :g/ctrl-Vctrl-shift-2/s///g
but it did not work.

I tried using pbpaste, which is supposed to strip things to plain text, but it 
kept all the null's.

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Re: Converting a 16 bit text file to 8 bit text (removing every other null)

[Michael]

On 2014-11-11, at 4:44 PM, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote:

 On Nov 11, 2014, at 17:08, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's a simple way to convert a text file that has every other character 
 null into a plain normal text file?
 
 BBEdit and use zap gremlins. 

Ok, where can I get BBEdit?

My best so far:

keybounceMBP:Movies michael$ tr -d \\000  fmle_session_2014_161411.log  
foo.log
tr: Illegal byte sequence
keybounceMBP:Movies michael$ cat foo.log
=
File: /Users/michael/Applications/Adobe/Flash Media Live Encoder 
3.2/FlashMediaLiveEncoder.app/Contents/MacOS/FlashMediaLiveEncoder
Description: AdobekeybounceMBP:Movies michael$ 

less reports that the next byte in the file is A9, but I'd expect tr to 
just output that as is. Not die and complain.

(the tr command -- note that it takes TWO backslashes to work -- worked just 
fine on an xml text file. But not on this log file.)

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Re: Blank screen screen saver?

[Michael]

On 2014-11-23, at 12:16 AM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:

 Why don't you just set energy saver to put your display to sleep? That's 
 black.

Not for my external display. I get a bright blue screen, and No Input flowing 
across it.

Additionally, during the daytime, I might want the screen to go black if I'm 
not using it, but not turn off -- turning off kills color accuracy for about 20 
minutes.

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Re: Blank screen screen saver?

[Michael]

On 2014-11-23, at 12:16 AM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:
 
 Why don't you just set energy saver to put your display to sleep? That's 
 black.
 
 Not for my external display. I get a bright blue screen, and No Input 
 flowing across it.
 
 I would check your monitor’s onboard settings. It should go into standby mode 
 when not receiving input.

It should, but i've gone over everything I can adjust. No such setting.

(It's an HDMI Tv, and after reporting issues to Apple, they have concluded it 
doesn't even support EID which lets the computer know when it's the same 
monitor -- so the computer keeps assuming new TV, use the default settings.)

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Verifying a time machine backup

[Michael]

I'd like a way to verify a time machine backup.

What I envision:
1. A tool to list which files on the backup do not need to be backed up -- in 
other words, the list of files that time machine think are worth backing up but 
can be skipped. These can then be sent to a diff-tool to verify that what is on 
the backup matches.

2. A way to let time machine know that Hey, this file does not actually match, 
and needs to be backed up. Delete all backups of file X is one such, but it 
is overkill. On the other hand, if the file on the backup is in error, maybe it 
should be removed. It is also not quite sufficient, if files should be backed 
up but are missing.

#1 -- list all files that should be backed up and not need to be re-backed up 
-- is needed to avoid worrying about files that do not get backed up. The idea 
of only scan files that are on the backup will miss files that should have 
been but have not because of a bug in time machine itself. In theory, such a 
tool can be written today, but I have no idea how. As far as I can tell, 
backupd is the only program that has the knowledge to make such a list, but 
does not.

#2 -- force a backup of specific files -- seems to be impossible at the moment.

In the past (10.9.5), I had directories where the list of what was backed up 
did not match the list of what should have been backed up. So the concern of 
files missing is not crazy. And the concern of undetected IO error in the 
write is very real.

Has anyone looked into this issue? Are there any tools, or any sort of work in 
progress, or anything, to deal with any of this so far?

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Re: Verifying a time machine backup

[Michael]

On 2014-12-04, at 8:06 PM, LuKreme krem...@kreme.com wrote:

 
 On Dec 4, 2014, at 10:25 AM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I'd like a way to verify a time machine backup.
 
 If Time Machine completed without an error, it’s verified.

That is just silly.

1. Any program can have bugs. Time machine included. (I have found time machine 
making errors, and reported them. The only solution I have so far is to wipe 
the backup and start over).
2. Unless you flush the system cache and the drive cache, and force a re-read 
from the media, there is no way to test for silent data corruption. I don't 
think time machine does this. I don't know of any system API to flush the 
kernel cache, nor of any device independent way to flush the drive cache.

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Re: Verifying a time machine backup

[Michael]

On 2014-12-05, at 10:50 PM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:

 
 On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:07 PM, Arno Hautala a...@alum.wpi.edu wrote:
 
 So, you want a list of files that have already been backed up, that
 haven't changed on the filesystem, so you can verify that the data has
 been correctly backed up. In the ideal case, if performed immediately
 after the backup completes, this would be every file in the backup.
 
 I think the easiest way to do this would be to just compare the backup
 to the current state (tmutil compare). If the list of differing files
 is the same as the list of files that need to be backed up (collected
 by fsevents), your backup can be considered verified.
 
 Well, that just verifies the table of contents.  I think he wants to verify 
 the contents (data), and for that he needs the table of contents as a first 
 step.

Correct.

ZFS's checksums can tell me Hey, the data you tried to read is no good. I 
want to know that before I need to restore from backup.

I can't use ZFS for time machine. I can't control whether the drive's internal 
buffer is error correcting memory or not. I can't control if the disk sector 
was written correctly but has become unreadable.

All I can do is compare what's on the disk with what's on the backup, file by 
file. tmutil compare can do that, but it will report too many false positives 
-- everything modified since the last backup will show as different, and 
everything that should not be backed up will show as missing.

To have an automated verification, I need to be able to filter to only those 
files that should be on the backup and have not changed / do not need to be 
backed up again.

===

Open Radar: I'm not sure. About half of what I submit is closed as a duplicate, 
and I can never see the originals. I have no clue how to see someone else's bug 
report, nor how to share mine.

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Re: Blank screen screen saver?

[Michael]

 So, if I understand everything that's been said:

Yep.
Perfect.

 The goal is to get a black screen when not in use.
 Energy saver can't be used because, instead of going black, the screen
 goes blue like a TV from the 80s.
 The screen can't be turned off because that kills color accuracy for
 20 minutes. The color accuracy issue is probably why it isn't set to
 turn power down the screen like other monitors.
 A black image can't be selected for the screen saver because that
 image is still zoomed and panned by the screen saver leading to
 undesired cycles being wasted.

More like: Undesired energy / heat. I have spare CPU cycles going unused almost 
all the time. I'm trying to avoid wasting energy, and extra CPU triggers fan 
noise. Battery life is secondary (this laptop spends 95% of it's time plugged 
in).

 The Apple logo is probably your best bet, short of putting together
 your own with Quartz Composer. Tutorials and examples are pretty
 plentiful.

Yea, I think you're probably right.

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Store Agent checking for updates every 19 minutes?!?

[Michael]

So my system log files show store agent checking for software updates every 19 
minutes.

That seems excessive -- is there any way to lower the frequency?

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Disk1s2: i/o error

[Michael]

So my external 500 GB drive is giving me I/O errors. I'd like some advice, 
other than throw it away.

In the past, when I had drives directly attached inside the computer, I could 
do a low-level format, and generally had good luck letting that solve errors.

This is a USB drive. I don't know how to do a low-level format.

I don't know if a simple Flush and re-write will solve things. I know that 
hard drives have spare sectors for mapping bad sectors, so I'm assuming that 
this is a read error somewhere. But the only thing the kernel tells me is
Mar 28 11:11:29 keybounceMBP kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
Mar 28 11:12:02 --- last message repeated 1 time ---
Mar 28 11:12:02 keybounceMBP kernel[0]: disk1s2: I/O error.
Mar 28 11:12:35 --- last message repeated 1 time ---

No indication of which block ID, what kind of device status flags, etc. I have 
never had a unix kernel report so little information. There is no 
/var/log/kernel.log (10.9.5), so there's no place to look for more details.

My current best thinking is to force random writes to the whole disk (there's 
a diskutil command for that), and if that works without errors, and a read of 
the disk (cat /dev/rdisk1) works without errors, then whatever happened is 
probably transient enough to resume use of the drive.

I do have a time machine backup, so excluding the concern of files suffering 
bitrot on the backup drive, I'm good -- nothing is lost. This drive is USB 
powered, so it's nice to have with a portable laptop.

Advice? Anyone?

(I have no idea how to read the smart status of the drive. I'm assuming it's 
actually maintained in the drive, but I don't know of a tool to report the 
smart status of a USB-connected drive)

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Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

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On 2015-03-28, at 12:36 AM, @lbutlr krem...@kreme.com wrote:

 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 21:33, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?
 
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
 mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
 mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 
 
 Unmount the image first, then
 
 hdiutil attach -readonly /path/to/image.dmg
 
 (I think that’s right, double check the man page, it’s been a while since I 
 used hdiutil_

So what works is simply

disk=0s5; diskutil umount disk$disk ; diskutil mount readOnly disk$disk

Then, changing that first bit (with ^5^6, or ^0s5^2s2) lets you apply that 
read-only to any partition that you don't want updated.

Good? No.

Every read-only partition gets a deep scan on every backup.

I even made sure it was read-write, backup could complete successfully, and 
then read-only. Still gets deep scans.

The good news: Now I know how to force a deep scan.
The bad news: I don't know how to have a read-only archive that does not need 
to be updated (I don't want it to be updated) and still just backup is a no-op 
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Re: Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

[Michael]

On 2015-03-29, at 7:07 AM, Macs R We macs...@macsrwe.com wrote:

 Maybe I’m misunderstanding the big picture here, but Time Machine allows you 
 to specify files and volumes that are not to be backed up; and, although I’ve 
 never tried it, I would try setting discretionary read-only permissions on 
 the bundle and/or the interior volume to prevent any accidental modification 
 of the contents.

The big picture, roughly:
I have some partitions that are historical data. I don't want them to ever 
change. But I do want them in the backup.

Attempting to mount those partitions as read only, to prevent them from 
changing, messes up Time Machine's ability to just say these have not changed.


 
 On Mar 29, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On 2015-03-28, at 12:36 AM, @lbutlr krem...@kreme.com wrote:
 
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 21:33, Michael keybou...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?
 
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
 mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
 mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
 keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 
 
 Unmount the image first, then
 
 hdiutil attach -readonly /path/to/image.dmg
 
 (I think that’s right, double check the man page, it’s been a while since I 
 used hdiutil_
 
 So what works is simply
 
 disk=0s5; diskutil umount disk$disk ; diskutil mount readOnly disk$disk
 
 Then, changing that first bit (with ^5^6, or ^0s5^2s2) lets you apply that 
 read-only to any partition that you don't want updated.
 
 Good? No.
 
 Every read-only partition gets a deep scan on every backup.
 
 I even made sure it was read-write, backup could complete successfully, and 
 then read-only. Still gets deep scans.
 
 The good news: Now I know how to force a deep scan.
 The bad news: I don't know how to have a read-only archive that does not 
 need to be updated (I don't want it to be updated) and still just backup is 
 a no-op because it is read-only and not changing.
 
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Mounting a sparse bundle as read only?

[Michael]

Is there a way to mount a sparse bundle as read only?

keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /dev/disk3s2
mount: /dev/disk3s2: unknown special file or file system.
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mount -o ro /Volumes/Isolated\ old\ stuff/
mount: /Volumes/Isolated old stuff/: unknown special file or file system.
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Can't manage symbolic links ... what did I mess up?

[Michael]

This should be simple. So what am I blind to?

keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ ls ../../../../../../Kleiman\ 
Movies/Archived\ Recordings/Reasonable\ Realism/Recordings/
total 0
0 OverheadCobble 3 15-03-28-01.cmrec/   0 OverheadCobble 3 15-03-28-04.cmrec/
0 OverheadCobble 3 15-03-28-02.cmrec/   0 OverheadCobble 3 15-03-28-05.cmrec/
0 OverheadCobble 3 15-03-28-03.cmrec/
keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ for i in Overhead\ Cobble*cmrec 
; do mv $i $i.foo ; ln -s ../../../../../../Kleiman\ Movies/Archived\ 
Recordings/Reasonable\ Realism/Recordings/$i $i ; done

My filenames have spaces, so I made sure to use quotes around the variable name.
The links are relative, so even inside Time Machine it will still work.

keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ ls -l
total 2918612
748 -rw-r--r--   1 michael  staff  764183 Apr  3 08:42 Overhead Cobble 
1 15-03-14.png
2041676 -rw-r--r--   1 michael  staff  2090672218 Mar 14 21:15 Overhead Cobble 
1 15-03-14.trec
 146400 -rw-r--r--@  1 michael  staff   149905951 Mar 14 22:15 Overhead Cobble 
2 15-03-14-01.mp4
 138724 -rw-r--r--@  1 michael  staff   142049481 Mar 14 22:45 Overhead Cobble 
2 15-03-14-02.mp4
 142956 -rw-r--r--@  1 michael  staff   146385863 Mar 14 23:15 Overhead Cobble 
2 15-03-14-03.mp4
 164384 -rw-r--r--   1 michael  staff   168328703 Mar 14 23:45 Overhead Cobble 
2 15-03-14-04.mp4
 175656 -rw-r--r--   1 michael  staff   179871557 Mar 15 00:15 Overhead Cobble 
2 15-03-14-05.mp4
 108048 -rw-r--r--   1 michael  staff   110638245 Mar 15 00:45 Overhead Cobble 
2 15-03-14-06.mp4
  4 lrwxr-xr-x   1 michael  staff 118 Apr 13 13:39 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-01.cmrec@ - ../../../../../../Kleiman Movies/Archived 
Recordings/Reasonable Realism/Recordings/Overhead Cobble 3 15-03-28-01.cmrec
  0 drwxrwxrwx  17 michael  staff 578 Mar 28 17:18 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-01.cmrec.foo/
  4 lrwxr-xr-x   1 michael  staff 118 Apr 13 13:39 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-02.cmrec@ - ../../../../../../Kleiman Movies/Archived 
Recordings/Reasonable Realism/Recordings/Overhead Cobble 3 15-03-28-02.cmrec
  0 drwxrwxrwx  17 michael  staff 578 Mar 28 17:20 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-02.cmrec.foo/
  4 lrwxr-xr-x   1 michael  staff 118 Apr 13 13:39 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-03.cmrec@ - ../../../../../../Kleiman Movies/Archived 
Recordings/Reasonable Realism/Recordings/Overhead Cobble 3 15-03-28-03.cmrec
  0 drwxrwxrwx  17 michael  staff 578 Mar 28 20:07 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-03.cmrec.foo/
  4 lrwxr-xr-x   1 michael  staff 118 Apr 13 13:39 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-04.cmrec@ - ../../../../../../Kleiman Movies/Archived 
Recordings/Reasonable Realism/Recordings/Overhead Cobble 3 15-03-28-04.cmrec
  0 drwxrwxrwx  17 michael  staff 578 Mar 28 20:39 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-04.cmrec.foo/
  4 lrwxr-xr-x   1 michael  staff 118 Apr 13 13:39 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-05.cmrec@ - ../../../../../../Kleiman Movies/Archived 
Recordings/Reasonable Realism/Recordings/Overhead Cobble 3 15-03-28-05.cmrec
  0 drwxrwxrwx  17 michael  staff 578 Mar 28 22:14 Overhead Cobble 
3 15-03-28-05.cmrec.foo/

The renamed files are there, with the .foo extension. The links are pointing 
to the proper location, as far as I can tell.

keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ ls ../../../../../../Kleiman\ 
Movies/Archived\ Recordings/Reasonable\ Realism/Recordings/OverheadCobble\ 3\ 
15-03-28-03.cmrec/
total 5733396
2316244 camera.mov4 recordingScaleFactor
  4 cursorImageData.dat   4 recordingScaleFactor.dat
  8 cursoraction.dat  4 recordingregion.dat
932 cursorlocation.dat  3400576 screen.mov
  14188 dirtyrect.dat 4 slideNotes.dat
   1396 frontmost.dat 4 slideTexts.dat
  4 keyboardaction.dat4 slideTitles.dat
 20 project.xml
keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ 

Everything looks like it's there.
But the links don't work.

keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ ls -l Overhead\ Cobble\ 3\ 
15-03-28-03.cmrec
4 lrwxr-xr-x  1 michael  staff  118 Apr 13 13:39 Overhead Cobble 3 
15-03-28-03.cmrec@ - ../../../../../../Kleiman Movies/Archived 
Recordings/Reasonable Realism/Recordings/Overhead Cobble 3 15-03-28-03.cmrec
keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ ls Overhead\ Cobble\ 3\ 
15-03-28-03.cmrec/
ls: Overhead Cobble 3 15-03-28-03.cmrec/: No such file or directory
keybounceMBP:Overhead Cobble Descends michael$ 

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Displaying a dialog box from a script

[Michael]

Is there a shell command to display a dialog box and return which selection was 
made?

I'm thinking of a main text string, and 1 to 3 choice boxes (like Save, 
Cancel, Discard), that returns a value corresponding to which box was 
selected.
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Re: Displaying a dialog box from a script

[Michael]

 Is there a shell command to display a dialog box and return which selection 
 was made?
 
 I'm thinking of a main text string, and 1 to 3 choice boxes (like Save, 
 Cancel, Discard), that returns a value corresponding to which box was 
 selected.
 
 You can use Applescript, either by making your whole script in AppleScript or 
 by using `osascript` like this:
 
 osascript -e 'display dialog Do you have a question? buttons {Yes, No, 
 Maybe} default button Yes'
 
 There are a lot more things you can do with this:
 
 https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/AppleScript/Conceptual/AppleScriptLangGuide/reference/ASLR_cmds.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP4983-CH216-SW12

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Re: How can I force a full time machine backup?

[Michael]

On 2015-07-04, at 9:16 AM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How can I force a full time machine backup?
> 
> I have several months of time machine history on my drive. I don't want to 
> reformat the drive (and lose it all), but I do want to force a full backup. I 
> know that there are files that got skipped (thanks for the tmutil compare 
> trick), and I strongly suspect that there is garbage on the drive (I got 
> buffer underrun errors at one point -- they went away after a power cycle, 
> but I suspect that the bits on the backup don't match bits on the main disks).
> 
> Apple's engineers said that the disk's UUID is involved in determining a 
> matching backup, and implied that if I could find a way to change that, it 
> would work. I looked at "tmutil associatedisk", and I wonder if there's a way 
> to use that. But they did not have a solution for a way to force a full 
> backup without either selecting a new destination, or erasing the old 
> destination.
> 
> Anyone out there have a solution?

Well, I think I managed to do it. I'm in the middle of a 1.09 TB backup that 
has been running since this morning.

What I think did it, if someone will test/confirm on another system:
1. Excluded all partitions. No partitions to back up.
2. Do a backup. Get an error about nothing to back up.
3. Add in something small and tiny to back up, like a mounted download.
4. Back up. Something goes to the backup disk
5. Now set the list of partitions back to what you want to back up.
6. Backing up, it should (maybe? Hopefully?) back up everything.

As I said: I don't know for certain that this does it, but if someone else can 
verify this, great.

In my case, #3 was actually just a small partition on the drive (not a mounted 
download), so that one partition (only) has not (yet) been refreshed to the 
drive.

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How can I force a full time machine backup?

[Michael]

How can I force a full time machine backup?

I have several months of time machine history on my drive. I don't want to 
reformat the drive (and lose it all), but I do want to force a full backup. I 
know that there are files that got skipped (thanks for the tmutil compare 
trick), and I strongly suspect that there is garbage on the drive (I got buffer 
underrun errors at one point -- they went away after a power cycle, but I 
suspect that the bits on the backup don't match bits on the main disks).

Apple's engineers said that the disk's UUID is involved in determining a 
matching backup, and implied that if I could find a way to change that, it 
would work. I looked at "tmutil associatedisk", and I wonder if there's a way 
to use that. But they did not have a solution for a way to force a full backup 
without either selecting a new destination, or erasing the old destination.

Anyone out there have a solution?

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Command-line way to list all seen wireless networks?

[Michael]

Is there a command-line way to list all seen wireless networks?

Or, for that matter, to select one and provide a password?

Both of these can be done from the GUI's; can this be scripted?

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Power consumption question

[Michael]

So a quick question. How much power is 600 mA? (Macbook pro)

I have determined, via "pmset -g rawlog", that when running on battery, the 
difference between integrated video, and discrete video with an external 
monitor attached, is about 600 mA. How would I use that to determine the actual 
wattage/power usage of hooking up an external monitor?

(What is the voltage of that battery that is providing the 600mA?)

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Bash: Stop "cd" from "go to home"

[Michael]

Is there a way to stop "cd" with no argument from going home?

Alternatively, is there a way to make tab completion with nothing typed, in a 
directory with only one non-dot file, to match that one file?

My issue: I type "ls", see only the directory that I want to go to, hit "cd 
", and it fails (and puts me in my home directory) because I did not see 
the .DS_Store hidden file.

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Command to flush buffering?

[Michael]

Is there a command to flush all file buffer memory, load as much swap space 
into memory (off the disk) as possible, and uncompress as much compressed 
memory as possible?

Activity monitor just told me that I had a 9 GB file cache, 2 GB of used swap, 
1 GB of compressed memory. I think I could possibly fit all that in memory, 
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Re: Command-line way to list all seen wireless networks?

[Michael]

Thank you!

On 2015-09-25, at 11:03 AM, @lbutlr <krem...@kreme.com> wrote:

> On 17 Jul 2015, at 16:05, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there a command-line way to list all seen wireless networks?
> 
> /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Apple80211.framework/Versions/A/Resources/airport
>  scan
> 
>> Or, for that matter, to select one and provide a password?
> 
> networksetup -setairportnetwork enX SSID PASSWORD
> 
> enX has to be one of en0 en1 etc that designates your wifi interface.
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Looking for a Linux file system driver (ext2) with write access

[Michael]

Is there an Ext2 filesystem driver that supports write mode?

I've found two fuse-based drivers that are read only, and an older driver that 
won't work on 10.9.

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Re: task_for_pid failing: how/why/fix?

[Michael]

On 2015-12-18, at 8:45 PM, @lbutlr <krem...@kreme.com> wrote:

> On 17 Dec 2015, at 18:08, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I am attempting to debug a java program with JVisualVM.
> 
> I think you posted to the wrong group.

No, not really. I'm trying to use a program on Mac Os X. Said program wants to 
do debugging work on another process.

On Mach, that relies on task_for_pid. The security system of Mac Os X makes 
this rely on more than just "same user ID".

None of the applications are sandboxed; none have asked for extra security.

Sometimes it works.
Sometimes it does not.
I cannot figure out any pattern.

The debugger is being started from Terminal, which was opened by launch 
services in response to double-clicking a dock icon.
The execution comes from double clicking a dock icon (eclipse), which in turn 
starts a different program (minecraft) that opens it's own connection to the 
window server.

Everything should be in the same context, with no permission restrictions asked 
for.
Different window server connections should be no different than gdb on an 
appkit program


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Re: task_for_pid failing: how/why/fix?

[Michael]

>OK, let me rephrase. I think you posted to a group that has exactly one person 
>using JvisualVM.

Perhaps, but I bet there's a lot of people that have run into task_for_pid 
failures, possibly with gdb. And perhaps someone that has a solution that 
doesn't involve codesign on a bundle (since this is not a bundle, but a 
command-line tool.)

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task_for_pid failing: how/why/fix?

[Michael]

I am attempting to debug a java program with JVisualVM.

Sometimes it works. Other times, I get messages like
attach: task_for_pid(4756) failed (5)
and the debugger can't read the program.

What can I do? What causes this?

I have verified that both the terminal launching jvisualvm, and the eclipse 
running the program, are launched from the same instance of finder (no chance 
that it died and restarted), and that should ensure the same bootstrap context, 
so they should be allowed to see each other.

Java 7 v 72. (Java 8 crashes one program I will be using, so I am still using 
J7.)

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Re: printing txt file

[Michael]

On 2016-06-11, at 11:42 AM, @lbutlr  wrote:

> On Jun 8, 2016, at 11:29 PM, William Ehrich  wrote:
>> I have an unformatted text file with lines of up to 72 monospace, 7 bit 
>> ASCII, characters which I want to print on a PC. How can I do this?
> 
> Type FILE.TXT > LPT1
> 
> (or sometimes lpt or prn)
> 
>> When I print to pdf in TextEdit the lines are wrapped at 54 characters in a 
>> page with lots of empty space. I just want it to look like the unformatted 
>> TextEdit window. As though typed on a Teletype.
> 
> I thought you wanted to print it on a PC? I am confused.

Using TextEdit, or just about anything from Appkit, for me wants to put in 
giant margins (1 inch or bigger), and won't let me print edge to edge. The 
exception is printing a PDF from preview that has an option for printing the 
whole page.

Otherwise, the "lpr file" command (hmm, I've actually never tried it in Mac OS, 
does it actually work, or is it an unsupported BSD thing?) should give you the 
"plain text" mode of your printer (most printers should have it), which gives 
you 80 characters per line, with minimal margins.

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Re: How do I see what Time Machine just backed up?

[Michael]

> 
> I compared two snapshot paths and I believe I found the culprit.  I have 
> TechTool software installed.  I did not realize it, but apparently it was 
> doing a Directory Backup to save "valuable directory structure information" 
> every 4 hours.  Time Machine was backing up the TechTool Protection directory 
> in /Library/Application Support, which apparently involved over 2-GB of 
> changes.
> 
> I have now excluded the /Library/Application Support directory, so hopefully 
> that will solve my problem.  I hope this does not create any new problems by 
> not backing up the /Library/Application Support directory.

That wil cause you trouble.
Only eliminate the *ONE* directory in Application Support that is causing 
trouble.
Otherwise, every other app may have problems on restore.

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Re: Rewrite a drive with DD (was: What to do when a root file system cannot be repaired?)

[Michael]

>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, now for a switch: a DD question.
>> 
>> I was able to read the entire drive (cat /dev/rdisk0 > /dev/null) without 
>> error.
>> So, I want to try a "write each sector back in place", to see if the drive 
>> is still alive or dying.
>> 
>> My thinking was simple:
>> 
>> dd if=/dev/rdisk0 of=/dev/rdisk0 bs=2560
>> 
>> thinking that would would read 10 sectors, write those same 10 sectors, and 
>> then continue.
>> 
>> My concern? With the same file for input and output, would it write starting 
>> at block 0, or would it read 0-9, and then write 10-19?
>> 
>> Also: Is there a better way to re-write the contents of a hard drive?

Well, shoot.

dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/rdisk0 bs=512 count=1 oseek=743132
dd: /dev/rdisk0: Resource Busy

Once I realized that "skip" and "seek" are different, and now have the names 
"iseek" and "oseek", it was easy enough to verify the flawed block. But dd 
won't actually let me write it.

Worse, for whatever reason, it will read occasionally. But with no writable 
file system, and no ramdisk support that I know of, I have no way to save those 
bytes to retry.

My goal is simple: Yes, this drive is on deaths door. If I can get the drive to 
reallocate that sector, I can at least continue to use this machine.

But dd won't write to the drive. Yes, this is single user. Yes, I've verified 
that the only programs running are launchd (1), launchctl (2), and bash (3).

Anyone have an idea why dd won't write to the raw drive? Again, 10.5.8, ppc mac.


>> 
>> 
>> On 2016-03-26, at 7:14 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe it would use an Ultra ATA/100 hard drive (60GB?). Not sure about 
>>> availability of those anymore...
>>> -Carl
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm ... what kind of drive do I put in this laptop? 
>>>> 
>>>> iBook G4, 15 inch ... 1 GB memory.
>>>> 
>>>> (I use it primarily for a second screen, and playing dos games in QEMU).
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-03-26, at 7:08 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Disk Warrior can work wonders, but you'd probably be better off getting a 
>>>>> new drive for that $120, and reloading your Time Machine backup onto it. 
>>>>> When you start getting file system corruption, it's usually the fault of 
>>>>> the disk (as I learned the hard way :O)
>>>>> -Carl
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At $120, it's not worth that much :-).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm wondering if I could get a reinstall from the genius bar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-03-26, at 4:33 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you have disk warrior, boot from it and try to repair the drive. If 
>>>>>>> you don't have it, it's really, really worth getting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have an iBook G4, running 10.5.8. Today, it rebooted on me, at 
>>>>>>>> "random".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> During startup, it complained about problems with the root file 
>>>>>>>> system, and said that an fsck would be forced at next startup. So, I 
>>>>>>>> forced a reboot from the login screen.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Naturally, it did not do the fsck. So, a reboot into single user mode.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Fsck -f tells me the following:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Checking Journaled HFS plus volume
>>>>>>>> Checking extents overflow file
>>>>>>>> Checking catalog file
>>>>>>>> Keys out of order (4, 704)
>>>>>>>> Rebuilding catalog B-tree
>>>>>>>> The volume could not be repaired
>>>>>>>> Exited with signal 8
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What do I do at this point to recover? I have a full time machine 
>>>>>>>> backup.
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What to do when a root file system cannot be repaired?

[Michael]

I have an iBook G4, running 10.5.8. Today, it rebooted on me, at "random".

During startup, it complained about problems with the root file system, and 
said that an fsck would be forced at next startup. So, I forced a reboot from 
the login screen.

Naturally, it did not do the fsck. So, a reboot into single user mode.

Fsck -f tells me the following:

Checking Journaled HFS plus volume
Checking extents overflow file
Checking catalog file
Keys out of order (4, 704)
Rebuilding catalog B-tree
The volume could not be repaired
Exited with signal 8

What do I do at this point to recover? I have a full time machine backup.

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Re: Rewrite a drive with DD (was: What to do when a root file system cannot be repaired?)

[Michael]

Alright; how do you read smart data from the command line?
NB: I have smartmontools installed, dated 2011-10-20 r3458

... yea, 5 years old ... I use it to monitor disk drive temp in the logs.

Keep in mind: When I tried booting up to the gui, I got to some windows being 
opened, and just being blank white, nothing else happened. And since that means 
writing to a damaged drive, I'm trying to avoid that.

Drive Genius ... will look into that, thank you

On 2016-03-26, at 8:36 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:

> If your drive has SMART data available, this question may already be answered.
> 
> Drive Genius scan/extended does what you want to do as safely as it is 
> possible to do it (which may still lose some data) and has been well 
> pre-tested for you.
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 8:30 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, now for a switch: a DD question.
>> 
>> I was able to read the entire drive (cat /dev/rdisk0 > /dev/null) without 
>> error.
>> So, I want to try a "write each sector back in place", to see if the drive 
>> is still alive or dying.
>> 
>> My thinking was simple:
>> 
>> dd if=/dev/rdisk0 of=/dev/rdisk0 bs=2560
>> 
>> thinking that would would read 10 sectors, write those same 10 sectors, and 
>> then continue.
>> 
>> My concern? With the same file for input and output, would it write starting 
>> at block 0, or would it read 0-9, and then write 10-19?
>> 
>> Also: Is there a better way to re-write the contents of a hard drive?
>> 
>> 
>> On 2016-03-26, at 7:14 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> I believe it would use an Ultra ATA/100 hard drive (60GB?). Not sure about 
>>> availability of those anymore...
>>> -Carl
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hmm ... what kind of drive do I put in this laptop? 
>>>> 
>>>> iBook G4, 15 inch ... 1 GB memory.
>>>> 
>>>> (I use it primarily for a second screen, and playing dos games in QEMU).
>>>> 
>>>> On 2016-03-26, at 7:08 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Disk Warrior can work wonders, but you'd probably be better off getting a 
>>>>> new drive for that $120, and reloading your Time Machine backup onto it. 
>>>>> When you start getting file system corruption, it's usually the fault of 
>>>>> the disk (as I learned the hard way :O)
>>>>> -Carl
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> At $120, it's not worth that much :-).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm wondering if I could get a reinstall from the genius bar.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-03-26, at 4:33 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you have disk warrior, boot from it and try to repair the drive. If 
>>>>>>> you don't have it, it's really, really worth getting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have an iBook G4, running 10.5.8. Today, it rebooted on me, at 
>>>>>>>> "random".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> During startup, it complained about problems with the root file 
>>>>>>>> system, and said that an fsck would be forced at next startup. So, I 
>>>>>>>> forced a reboot from the login screen.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Naturally, it did not do the fsck. So, a reboot into single user mode.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Fsck -f tells me the following:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Checking Journaled HFS plus volume
>>>>>>>> Checking extents overflow file
>>>>>>>> Checking catalog file
>>>>>>>> Keys out of order (4, 704)
>>>>>>>> Rebuilding catalog B-tree
>>>>>>>> The volume could not be repaired
>>>>>>>> Exited with signal 8
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What do I do at this point to recover? I have a full time machine 
>>>>>>>> backup.
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Re: What to do when a root file system cannot be repaired?

[Michael]

At $120, it's not worth that much :-).

I'm wondering if I could get a reinstall from the genius bar.

On 2016-03-26, at 4:33 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:

> If you have disk warrior, boot from it and try to repair the drive. If you 
> don't have it, it's really, really worth getting.
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I have an iBook G4, running 10.5.8. Today, it rebooted on me, at "random".
>> 
>> During startup, it complained about problems with the root file system, and 
>> said that an fsck would be forced at next startup. So, I forced a reboot 
>> from the login screen.
>> 
>> Naturally, it did not do the fsck. So, a reboot into single user mode.
>> 
>> Fsck -f tells me the following:
>> 
>> Checking Journaled HFS plus volume
>> Checking extents overflow file
>> Checking catalog file
>> Keys out of order (4, 704)
>> Rebuilding catalog B-tree
>> The volume could not be repaired
>> Exited with signal 8
>> 
>> What do I do at this point to recover? I have a full time machine backup.
>> 
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Re: What to do when a root file system cannot be repaired?

[Michael]

Hmm ... what kind of drive do I put in this laptop? 

iBook G4, 15 inch ... 1 GB memory.

(I use it primarily for a second screen, and playing dos games in QEMU).

On 2016-03-26, at 7:08 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> wrote:

> Disk Warrior can work wonders, but you'd probably be better off getting a new 
> drive for that $120, and reloading your Time Machine backup onto it. When you 
> start getting file system corruption, it's usually the fault of the disk (as 
> I learned the hard way :O)
> -Carl
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> At $120, it's not worth that much :-).
>> 
>> I'm wondering if I could get a reinstall from the genius bar.
>> 
>> On 2016-03-26, at 4:33 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> If you have disk warrior, boot from it and try to repair the drive. If you 
>>> don't have it, it's really, really worth getting.
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have an iBook G4, running 10.5.8. Today, it rebooted on me, at "random".
>>>> 
>>>> During startup, it complained about problems with the root file system, 
>>>> and said that an fsck would be forced at next startup. So, I forced a 
>>>> reboot from the login screen.
>>>> 
>>>> Naturally, it did not do the fsck. So, a reboot into single user mode.
>>>> 
>>>> Fsck -f tells me the following:
>>>> 
>>>> Checking Journaled HFS plus volume
>>>> Checking extents overflow file
>>>> Checking catalog file
>>>> Keys out of order (4, 704)
>>>> Rebuilding catalog B-tree
>>>> The volume could not be repaired
>>>> Exited with signal 8
>>>> 
>>>> What do I do at this point to recover? I have a full time machine backup.
>>>> 
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Re: What to do when a root file system cannot be repaired?

[Michael]

>I know that they used to come in 80 gb size ... (one guess how I know that)

Whoops! My drive is a 60 GB, not an 80.

Meanwhile, smartctl reports that the SMART status of the drive is good.

Reallocated sector count: 0
Power on time: 46,848 hours (near old age limit ...)

Oddly, there is a non-empty error log

... "Error: UNC 36 sectors at LBA 743132", multiple times.
Preceded by READ DMA EXT commands.

...
(30 minutes of playing with smartctl later)

Well, gee. 
dd if=/dev/rdisk0 of=/dev/null bs=512 count=20 skip=743132 
will read from the disk with no problem.
But smartctl -t short disk0 results in a failed smart self-test at the same 
place.

This drive is ... difficult to understand.
smartctl -a reports that it supports automatic offline data collection, but it 
is turned off. Attempting to turn that on gives an error message. 
Ditto for attempting to manually specify a sector range to test.

Yea ... I remember now, I played with this exact same thing 5 years ago, got 
the same errors / testing would not actually happen, and never bothered to set 
up automatic testing with smartd because it wouldn't work. But the selftest log 
shows that I did a number of tests back then, all of which passed.

 
> 
> On 2016-03-26, at 7:14 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> wrote:
> 
>> I believe it would use an Ultra ATA/100 hard drive (60GB?). Not sure about 
>> availability of those anymore...
>> -Carl
>> 
>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm ... what kind of drive do I put in this laptop? 
>>> 
>>> iBook G4, 15 inch ... 1 GB memory.
>>> 
>>> (I use it primarily for a second screen, and playing dos games in QEMU).
>>> 
>>> On 2016-03-26, at 7:08 PM, Carl Hoefs <newsli...@autonomy.caltech.edu> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Disk Warrior can work wonders, but you'd probably be better off getting a 
>>>> new drive for that $120, and reloading your Time Machine backup onto it. 
>>>> When you start getting file system corruption, it's usually the fault of 
>>>> the disk (as I learned the hard way :O)
>>>> -Carl
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 6:30 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> At $120, it's not worth that much :-).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm wondering if I could get a reinstall from the genius bar.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-03-26, at 4:33 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have disk warrior, boot from it and try to repair the drive. If 
>>>>>> you don't have it, it's really, really worth getting.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 26, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have an iBook G4, running 10.5.8. Today, it rebooted on me, at 
>>>>>>> "random".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> During startup, it complained about problems with the root file system, 
>>>>>>> and said that an fsck would be forced at next startup. So, I forced a 
>>>>>>> reboot from the login screen.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Naturally, it did not do the fsck. So, a reboot into single user mode.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fsck -f tells me the following:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Checking Journaled HFS plus volume
>>>>>>> Checking extents overflow file
>>>>>>> Checking catalog file
>>>>>>> Keys out of order (4, 704)
>>>>>>> Rebuilding catalog B-tree
>>>>>>> The volume could not be repaired
>>>>>>> Exited with signal 8
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What do I do at this point to recover? I have a full time machine 
>>>>>>> backup.
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Adjusting an image

[Michael]

I'm trying to adjust an image, a .png file. What I want to do is a gamma 
adjust, to lighten it.

In the past, I remember a program, I think it was called Core Image Fun House, 
or something like that, for doing that sort of thing; but that program is no 
longer around.

I did find some quartz composer transforms, including a gamma adjust, but that 
opens in Quartz Composer, and that will not actually let me supply a file to 
the transform. However, it tells me that I can use the transforms in Photobooth 
or iPhoto. So, try photobooth -- but as far as I can tell, that will only start 
with a camera picture, and I can't give it a file. So, try iPhoto. And ... how 
in the heck are you expected to use iPhoto / what does it actually do? In any 
event, I was able to drag the image in, apparently putting a copy of it into 
the library, but then I could not actually apply the quartz transforms.

But I did find, under Edit, sliders to adjust colors. I was able to get a "good 
enough" version, and then tried to save it. Err, Export it.

But the exported was a copy of the original, without any of the edits.

I cannot believe that a simple "apply this quartz filter", or "apply this color 
profile as an adjustment" (there is a lighten, and a darken, color profile for 
simple gamma adjusts), is this hard to do -- what  simple tool am I missing?

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Re: Adjusting an image

[Michael]

> I think the answer is the latter.  Yes, it's possible to screw up and export 
> the original file without the edits (I've done it too), but if you're 
> careful, you should be able to export the edited version.  If you can't make 
> that work, you can always choose "Show in Finder" to get the file instead of 
> going through Export.

Thank you! That works.

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Re: Adjusting an image

[Michael]

On 2016-05-03, at 12:31 AM, Andrew Brown  wrote:

> On 3 mai 2016, at 09:10, Peter Frings  wrote:
> 
>> And yes, I’m not so wild about Apple’s document system, either. Don’t mind 
>> the auto-save, but I find the UI a bit odd. But that’s probably my 20 years 
>> of “doing it the old way” that’s acting up.
> 
> No, it’s not you. We are all permitted to do one really stupid thing while on 
> this planet, and Apple’s new system used up both its corporate allocation and 
> those of its employees, contractors and shareholders, and of all their 
> friends, relations and neighbours. 

You're generous.

Deciding that EOF was to be thrown out, basically ruining any corporate product 
that relied on it; deciding that WOF was to just disappear while Apple's own 
system still used it (heck, remember that Apple's store stayed on the Objective 
C version of EOF when the official version was migrated to Java native); even 
the complete "poof" of the language bridges -- All of that used up the 
Corporate allocation.

And no, they don't get one error per worker :-).
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Re: Adjusting an image

[Michael]

>>** EDIT: AAAGGGHH! STUPID STUPID DOCUMENT SYSTEM!! 
>> Assume that any change you make will be *saved out even if you are just 
>> playing around*. AAUGH.
>> 
>> That, by the way, is a really good reason not to use Apple tools for playing 
>> and testing. Forced auto-save in place is a dumb idea. Having to remember 
>> that you "save as"/"duplicate" before you start playing, even before you 
>> give it a file system identity, is just not intuitive.
> 
> Just revert the file?

Sure -- just remember to do so. The file is still changed on disk.
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Re: Adjusting an image

[Michael]

>> On 30 Apr 2016, at 21:37, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying to adjust an image, a .png file. What I want to do is a gamma 
>> adjust, to lighten it.
> 
> Maybe I’m missing something, but why not use Preview? Open the PNG, select 
> Tools > Adjust Color… and then save it.

Because I did not know that Pre_view_ is also Pre_edit_ :-)

** EDIT: AAAGGGHH! STUPID STUPID DOCUMENT SYSTEM!! 
Assume that any change you make will be *saved out even if you are just playing 
around*. AAUGH.

That, by the way, is a really good reason not to use Apple tools for playing 
and testing. Forced auto-save in place is a dumb idea. Having to remember that 
you "save as"/"duplicate" before you start playing, even before you give it a 
file system identity, is just not intuitive.

Meanwhile: Apple has a system under the hood that is designed to let you apply 
quartz filters to images, or with the older funhouse, to apply other things. 
Heck, there was one program that let you apply icc profiles to images.

No, I don't mean Preview's "assign profile" -- that doesn't change the display 
of the image. It seems to adjust the numbers at the pixels at the same time, so 
that there's no actual change in what you have unless you go out of gamut.

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Getting control over apps launched at login

[Michael]

I'd like to know how to control which apps run at login.

I know that for anything that has an icon on the dock, I can select options -> 
run at login. But there are other apps that run besides those -- mostly things 
that live in the menu bar, for example.

How do I make something auto-launch if it wants to live there (and has no 
options -> launch at startup), or stop something from auto-launching if it 
lives there?

If it makes a difference: 10.9.5.

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Re: Getting control over apps launched at login

[Michael]

THANK YOU!!!

p.s. There's junk left in that list from years ago ... heck, I can tell that 
this login profile has migrated from a few versions back :-)

On 2016-05-01, at 3:19 PM, Charles Dyer <charles.d...@gmail.com> wrote:

> 
>> On 2016 May 01, at 16:44 , Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'd like to know how to control which apps run at login.
>> 
>> I know that for anything that has an icon on the dock, I can select options 
>> -> run at login. But there are other apps that run besides those -- mostly 
>> things that live in the menu bar, for example.
>> 
>> How do I make something auto-launch if it wants to live there (and has no 
>> options -> launch at startup), or stop something from auto-launching if it 
>> lives there?
>> 
>> If it makes a difference: 10.9.5.
> 
> Go to System Prefs, select Users (might be Users & Groups, I forget exactly 
> what it was called in Mavs) then select the user whose login you care about 
> and select ‘login items’. Click the ‘+’ to add items, select an item and 
> click the ‘-‘ to remove items, click the checkbox to have an item selected 
> and run automatically on login but to do so invisibly.
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Re: Getting jvisualvm to be an approved debugger -- taskgated, task_for_pid, etc

[Michael]

Right now, I am looking at jvisualvm that was able to open Eclipse with full 
access, and yet unable to also open the Minecraft client that Eclipse started 
... sigh.

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Getting jvisualvm to be an approved debugger -- taskgated, task_for_pid, etc

[Michael]

So the mach/xnu system that Mac OS is based on has a potentially big security 
hole: if you can get the task post of a task, you can do things to it.

So, Apple put security features on get_task_for_pid, and put taskgated in 
charge of it.

And, apple-supplied debuggers, such as GDB, are blessed and can get task ports.

But jvisualvm comes from oracle with each new release of Java, and does not get 
that blessing.

Now, according to the man page, the answer is to sign the bundle that your tool 
is in.

 -s   Allow signed applications marked as "safe" to have free access to 
task ports, without having to
  pass an authorization check. Note that such callers must be 
marked both allowed and safe.

It also mentions this:

 system.privilege.taskport  Authorization right used to check access of 
allowed (but not safe) callers.

Now, signing: everything that I've seen on signing is about signing a bundle. 
Jvisualvm is not a bundle; it is a flat java program. 

So, is there a way to make the java system executable blessed so that java 
debuggers can get the task port of a java program?

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Finding bundles above a certain size

[Michael]

Is there an easy way to find bundles above a certain size?

Specifically, I want to find recording/editing save "files" that are bigger 
than a gig. Generally, they will contain many smaller video files.

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Re: Finding bundles above a certain size

[Michael]

On 2016-07-20, at 6:38 AM, @lbutlr <krem...@kreme.com> wrote:

> On Jul 17, 2016, at 4:41 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there an easy way to find bundles above a certain size?
> 
> But the simplest way is simply to use Spotlight/Find in the Finder.
> 
> In the finder, hit command-F and type size greater than 1GB and hit return.

That was too simple.

Oh, and I have a LOT of large, old, recordings that I probably don't need for 
anything.

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Re: Moving a TM drive to a new machine

[Michael]

On 2017-02-15, at 11:29 AM, Carl Hoefs  wrote:

> A mid-2010 iMac (Yosemite) mobo flaked out on me so I transferred its 
> external TimeMachine drive to a late-2009 iMac (Sierra). In Sys Prefs I 
> selected the new drive to be the TimeMachine drive. But when I attempt to 
> Enter Into TimeMachine, it gives me an error panel saying:  
>   "Can't connect to a current Time Machine backup disk."
> 
> What does that mean? I can access the drive and the files on it manually in 
> Finder. How can I tell TM to use the drive and the existing backups? The new 
> iMac has the same name as the old one.
> -Carl

The real question, that I do not understand: What is your goal?

Is your goal to restore files from this backup to the new machine?
Is the goal to use this drive with the new machine?
Is the goal to "inherit" the backup database for use on this new machine -- the 
backup is a close match to the current machine, that you are willing to let old 
archives go poof as the drive is used for current backups?

What is your goal? What do you want to accomplish?

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Is there a tool to validate a time machine database?

[Michael]

So I have an issue. I have a time machine backup drive. I did a verify disk on 
it, and got a clean bill of health.

But if I try to enter time machine, finder just spins its colored disk, and 
activity monitor lists it as non-responsive.

I cannot do anything with time machine. And just two days ago, I was able to, 
no problem. I was looking over my backups with Grand Perspective, and deleted 
all backups of some files that were constant changes with no backup value (to 
clarify: The most recent backup of these files has value, and if I had to 
restore my drive, I need them. But a one-day-old version of the file is 
worthless -- only the most recent copy has any value.)

I cannot figure out what has happened in two days to make it stop functioning.
New backups are completing with no problem at all.

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Re: Is there a tool to validate a time machine database?

[Michael]

Wow, safe mode ...

So:
1. Only "pixel doubling" / low-res graphics modes
2. Very slow display, especially on horizontal scrollbars, or the left-side 
menu of mail.app.
3. Very slow to start up.
4. Found these in the log on startup:

keybounceMBP:/ michael$ grep safe /var/log/system.log | cut -c 51-
Can't load 
/System/Library/Extensions/AppleThunderboltEDMService.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleThunderboltEDMSink.kext
 - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleHWAccess.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleSMCLMU.kext - ineligible during safe 
boot.
Can't load 
/System/Library/Extensions/AppleHDA.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleHDAController.kext
 - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleCameraInterface.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleThunderboltIP.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load 
/System/Library/Extensions/IOBluetoothFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOBluetoothUSBDFU.kext
 - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext - ineligible during safe 
boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelHD5000Graphics.kext - 
ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/ApplePlatformEnabler.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/IOUserEthernet.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/IOUserEthernet.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/ScreenRecyclerDriver.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/Soundflower.kext - ineligible during safe 
boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/YCSoundRecord.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /Library/Extensions/TACC.kext - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load 
/System/Library/Extensions/IOBluetoothFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOBluetoothSerialManager.kext
 - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /Library/StartupItems/BRESINKx86Monitoring/BRESINKx86Monitoring.kext 
- ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load 
/System/Library/Extensions/AppleThunderboltEDMService.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleThunderboltEDMSink.kext
 - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/ApplePlatformEnabler.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleSMCLMU.kext - ineligible during safe 
boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUpstreamUserClient.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleCameraInterface.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleIntelHD5000Graphics.kext - 
ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/GeForce.kext - ineligible during safe 
boot.
Can't load 
/System/Library/Extensions/AppleHDA.kext/Contents/PlugIns/AppleHDAController.kext
 - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleUSBAudio.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleThunderboltIP.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/AppleHWAccess.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load 
/System/Library/Extensions/IOBluetoothFamily.kext/Contents/PlugIns/IOBluetoothSerialManager.kext
 - ineligible during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/IOUserEthernet.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/ScreenRecyclerDriver.kext - ineligible 
during safe boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/Soundflower.kext - ineligible during safe 
boot.
Can't load /System/Library/Extensions/YCSoundRecord.kext - ineligible during 
safe boot.
Can't load /Library/Extensions/TACC.kext - ineligible during safe boot.

All sorts of hardware is disabled in safe boot. 
Looks like most of them are denied twice.

5. Time Machine is working just fine!

So what is going on with safeboot? I noticed that it won't load the drivers for 
intel 5000 (motherboard on this machine is intel 4000) nor GeForce (but the 
nvidia card is disabled by default anyways)

Oh yea -- "Expose desktop" causes the window server to die and I'm back at the 
login window. That was a surprise.


On 2016-12-30, at 10:46 AM, @lbutlr <krem...@kreme.com> wrote:

> On Dec 30, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> deleted all backups of some files 
> 
> How, exactly, did you do this?
> 
> What happens if you boot into safe mode? Login to a secondary (temporary?) 
> clean admin account?
> 
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Re: Is there a tool to validate a time machine database?

[Michael]

On 2016-12-30, at 10:46 AM, @lbutlr <krem...@kreme.com> wrote:

> On Dec 30, 2016, at 10:55 AM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> deleted all backups of some files 
> 
> How, exactly, did you do this?

>From inside Time Machine, with a file selected, selecting "Delete all backups 
>of xxx" from the action menu.

(That is the one time machine action that cannot be done from tmutil)

> 
> What happens if you boot into safe mode? Login to a secondary (temporary?) 
> clean admin account?

Did not try. I'll let you know.

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Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately?

[Michael]

On 2017-04-19, at 7:58 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]  
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for responding.
> 
> It seems that you agree that there is some file that Outlook keeps updating, 
> which then repeatedly gets backed up by Time Machine. This file is not as 
> large as the Parallels file, but it's large enough to be a nuisance. I just 
> got to work and Time Machine is trying to backup 970 MB of something (also, 
> it says it will take 7 hours -- I don't know why it's so slow). I was not 
> even at work doing anything and it still found nearly a GB to backup. Maybe 
> that sounds small, but if it does this every hour, it won't take long to fill 
> my backup drive.

970 MB is nothing. For me, Firefox routinely triggers several hundred GB, and 
at least once a day Backblaze triggers a 1.2 GB backup.

Time Machine stores at most 24 + 1/day of those backups. So even if it is 
backing up a GB every time, you wind up with 24 GB + 1 GB/day up to a month, 
then that's about 55 GB, and then it's 1 GB per week.

Even if your backup drive is only 1 TB, we're talking about 5% after a month. 

Now, 7 hours? ... That's a problem. Is that all the time, or once that one long 
backup ran, did future backups go at a normal time?

> I looked in ~/Documents/Microsoft User Data/ and in ~/Library/Application 
> Support/, but neither was anywhere near 970 MB. The first folder was 289 MB 
> and the second folder was 198 MB (for all apps, not just Outlook or 
> Microsoft). So, neither seems to explain the 970 MB.
> 
> Any other suggestions? Is there an easy way to get a list of files, ordered 
> by file size, so that I can see which files are largest? Back in the NeXT 
> days, I think there was a program called Dark Forest, or something like that.

You want "Grand Perspective".

In particular, try to find an older version that was made specifically for Time 
Machine ("Time Machine Perspective", I think it was called), that stopped 
looking at duplicated files/directories. This let it look at a TM backup and 
only show you what had changed.

>> Currently I only backup part of my main system drive.  I exclude 
>> /Applications, /Library, and System Files and Applications.  Essentially I 
>> just backup my user files.

GAD, NO.

If you must exclude system files, then click the button that excludes what 
Apple ships.
I would give 75% odds that you have important stuff in /Library that was put 
there by programs you installed, and you probably have something in 
/Applications that you would have a problem replacing.

And frankly, being able to boot from a TM drive in an emergency is a good thing.

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gregg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: "@lbutlr" 
> Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 7:23 AM
> To: MacOSX-Talk Talk 
> Subject: Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately?
> 
> On 2017-04-18 (09:00 MDT), "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" 
>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have been using Time Machine for many years, but lately the backups seem 
>> to be much larger than usual (i.e., hundreds of MB rather than just a few 
>> MB), even when I have not done anything.
>> 
>> This problem
> 
> I wouldn’t say it’s a problem.
> 
>> 1. We were forced to switch to Outlook (I had always used Apple Mail before).
> 
> That would explain it right there.
> 
>> 2. Citrix was installed, so that I could access my work email in Outlook 
>> from home.
>> 
>> Is there some large file
> 
> Large? No. Large if you are thinking floppies? Yes.
> 
>> (e.g., a database) associated with Outlook that keeps getting updated and 
>> thus backed up again and again?
> 
> Yes.
> 
>> If so, what is it called and where is it located?
> 
> It used to be in ~/Documents/Outlook but that was years ago. It *SHOULD* be 
> in ~/Library/Application Support/
> 
>> This reminds me of the time when I used Parallels, which kept the virtual 
>> Windows machine in a large file and every time something changed in Windows, 
>> even something small, the entire large Parallels file would get backed up 
>> again in Time Machine.  Eventually I excluded that file from my backups.
> 
> By difference between a tens-of-gigabytes file and a db that is a couple 
> hundred megs.
> 
>> Currently I only backup part of my main system drive.  I exclude 
>> /Applications, /Library, and System Files and Applications.  Essentially I 
>> just backup my user files.
> 
> Backing up Library and System is pretty much a one-time event and makes it 
> much easier to restore your computer.
> 
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Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately?

[Michael]

On 2017-04-19, at 9:20 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] <di...@niehs.nih.gov> 
wrote:

> Hi Michael,
> 
> Thanks for your input.
> 
> I realize that most people probably think 970 MB is nothing, but my entire 
> system is only 279 GB and only 86 GB is being considered for backup.
> 
> I hate to admit it, but my Time Machine drive is only 320 GB. This has not 
> been a problem in the past, since the original backup only took about 86 GB 
> and subsequent backups were fairly small (before Outlook).  If I backup a GB 
> each hour, that's about 25 GB per day, which would exhaust my 320 GB drive 
> before too long.
> 
> I realize that I could simply buy a larger drive, but it just seems 
> inefficient to backup the entire Outlook database every time a single new 
> email is added.

Yea. Now imagine if your email database was GB's worth. There's a reason Apple 
moved to "one file == one message", and put the attachments in different files 
(I think it's one file == one attachment, so now one message can be many files) 
when they introduced a whole-file based backup system.

It wouldn't be so bad if your backup only stored differences or otherwise 
compacted historical changes; a git-based backup probably would not see this 
problem on a text file.

Now, 320 GB? One day is 25 GB. One week is 25+7 = 32 GB. So yes, it will cut 
down your backup history, but I don't think it will cut as much as you think.

... I'm probably about 5 times that (1.4 TB) and growing :-)


> 
> Gregg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael <keybou...@gmail.com>
> Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 at 11:37 AM
> To: "Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]" <di...@niehs.nih.gov>
> Cc: MacOSX-Talk Talk <macosx-talk@omnigroup.com>, "@lbutlr" 
> <krem...@kreme.com>
> Subject: Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately?
> 
> On 2017-04-19, at 7:58 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C] <di...@niehs.nih.gov> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Thanks for responding.
>> 
>> It seems that you agree that there is some file that Outlook keeps updating, 
>> which then repeatedly gets backed up by Time Machine. This file is not as 
>> large as the Parallels file, but it's large enough to be a nuisance. I just 
>> got to work and Time Machine is trying to backup 970 MB of something (also, 
>> it says it will take 7 hours -- I don't know why it's so slow). I was not 
>> even at work doing anything and it still found nearly a GB to backup. Maybe 
>> that sounds small, but if it does this every hour, it won't take long to 
>> fill my backup drive.
> 
> 970 MB is nothing. For me, Firefox routinely triggers several hundred GB, and 
> at least once a day Backblaze triggers a 1.2 GB backup.
> 
> Time Machine stores at most 24 + 1/day of those backups. So even if it is 
> backing up a GB every time, you wind up with 24 GB + 1 GB/day up to a month, 
> then that's about 55 GB, and then it's 1 GB per week.
> 
> Even if your backup drive is only 1 TB, we're talking about 5% after a month. 
> 
> Now, 7 hours? ... That's a problem. Is that all the time, or once that one 
> long backup ran, did future backups go at a normal time?
> 
>> I looked in ~/Documents/Microsoft User Data/ and in ~/Library/Application 
>> Support/, but neither was anywhere near 970 MB. The first folder was 289 MB 
>> and the second folder was 198 MB (for all apps, not just Outlook or 
>> Microsoft). So, neither seems to explain the 970 MB.
>> 
>> Any other suggestions? Is there an easy way to get a list of files, ordered 
>> by file size, so that I can see which files are largest? Back in the NeXT 
>> days, I think there was a program called Dark Forest, or something like that.
> 
> You want "Grand Perspective".
> 
> In particular, try to find an older version that was made specifically for 
> Time Machine ("Time Machine Perspective", I think it was called), that 
> stopped looking at duplicated files/directories. This let it look at a TM 
> backup and only show you what had changed.
> 
>>> Currently I only backup part of my main system drive.  I exclude 
>>> /Applications, /Library, and System Files and Applications.  Essentially I 
>>> just backup my user files.
> 
> GAD, NO.
> 
> If you must exclude system files, then click the button that excludes what 
> Apple ships.
> I would give 75% odds that you have important stuff in /Library that was put 
> there by programs you installed, and you probably have something in 
> /Applications that you would have a problem replacing.
> 
> And frankly, being able to boot from a TM drive in an emergency is a good 
> thing.
> 
>> 
>&g

Forcing time machine to do a deep scan?

[Michael]

So I've discovered that some files are NOT being backed up on time machine. The 
odd thing is that it is some files in a directory that are not in the current 
backup, but are in the oldest backup. 

Of course, finding some such files over here makes me worry that there are 
others elsewhere that I don't know about, and as soon as another backup is 
culled for space, even those existing backups will go poof.

How do I force time machine to scan everything and make backups of everything 
that is there, rather than just saying "I've seen this directory and 
subdirectory tree already, so one link and don't bother looking inside"?

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Re: why are Time Machine backups so large lately?

[Michael]

It sounds like your mail file.

Mac Mail uses one file per message.
Old unix mbox format is one file with all of your messages.

This sounds like outlook/citrix is using unix mail format, rather than one 
message per file format.

On 2017-04-18, at 8:00 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [C]  
wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have been using Time Machine for many years, but lately the backups seem to 
> be much larger than usual (i.e., hundreds of MB rather than just a few MB), 
> even when I have not done anything.
> 
> This problem is on my Mac at work, where the only things that have changed 
> lately (that I recall) are:
> 
> 1. We were forced to switch to Outlook (I had always used Apple Mail before).
> 
> 2. Citrix was installed, so that I could access my work email in Outlook from 
> home.
> 
> Is there some large file (e.g., a database) associated with Outlook that 
> keeps getting updated and thus backed up again and again?  If so, what is it 
> called and where is it located?  This reminds me of the time when I used 
> Parallels, which kept the virtual Windows machine in a large file and every 
> time something changed in Windows, even something small, the entire large 
> Parallels file would get backed up again in Time Machine.  Eventually I 
> excluded that file from my backups.
> 
> Currently I only backup part of my main system drive.  I exclude 
> /Applications, /Library, and System Files and Applications.  Essentially I 
> just backup my user files.
> 
> Does anyone have any thoughts about what might be causing my Time Machine 
> backups to be so much larger lately?  It seems like it might be related to me 
> being forced to start using Outlook, since the timing is right.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gregg
> 
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Time Machine and hard links

[Michael]

ACK!

So I just found out that time machine does not backup hard links. Nor does it 
backup meta-data to permit restoring hard links.

Repeat by:

keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mkdir test-link
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ cd test-link
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ echo file a > a
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln a b
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln b c
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln c d
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln d e
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ls -li
total 20
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 a
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 b
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 c
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 d
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 e
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ tmutil startbackup -b
Total copied: 760.28 MB (797214702 bytes)
Avg speed:1231.99 MB/min (21530541 bytes/sec)

After restoring from time machine:

keybounceMBP:~ michael$ ls -li test-link*
test-link:
total 20
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 a
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 b
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 c
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 d
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 e

'test-link (original)':
total 20
35248827 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 a
35248828 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 b
35248829 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 c
35248830 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 d
35248831 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 e
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 

Note that the restores are all different files.

This is on 10.9.5. Does this still happen (no hard-links after restoring) on 
10.12?

What is the best way to backup a file system? The goal is "perfect restoration" 
(including meta data / file structure, not just data restoration), with 
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Time Machine and hard links

[Michael]

ACK!

So I just found out that time machine does not backup hard links. Nor does it 
backup meta-data to permit restoring hard links.

Repeat by:

keybounceMBP:~ michael$ mkdir test-link
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ cd test-link
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ echo file a > a
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln a b
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln b c
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln c d
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ln d e
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ ls -li
total 20
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 a
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 b
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 c
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 d
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 e
keybounceMBP:test-link michael$ tmutil startbackup -b
Total copied: 760.28 MB (797214702 bytes)
Avg speed:1231.99 MB/min (21530541 bytes/sec)

After restoring from time machine:

keybounceMBP:~ michael$ ls -li test-link*
test-link:
total 20
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 a
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 b
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 c
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 d
35248494 4 -rw-r--r-- 5 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 e

'test-link (original)':
total 20
35248827 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 a
35248828 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 b
35248829 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 c
35248830 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 d
35248831 4 -rw-r--r-- 1 michael admin 7 Aug 13 11:27 e
keybounceMBP:~ michael$ 

Note that the restores are all different files.

This is on 10.9.5. Does this still happen (no hard-links after restoring) on 
10.12?

What is the best way to backup a file system? The goal is "perfect restoration" 
(including meta data / file structure, not just data restoration), with 
historical replication (so not just disk cloning)?

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Re: Time Machine and hard links

[Michael]

> What is the best way to backup a file system? The goal is "perfect 
> restoration" (including meta data / file structure, not just data 
> restoration), with historical replication (so not just disk cloning)?

Ok, minor nit: If you have a file system inside a sparse bundle, and backup 
that sparse bundle, then yes, your hard links are preserved.

Sparse bundles don't work well when you are talking about really big volume (I 
tested ... sigh ... it was over 2 TB). And while you can't restore the 
individual files, I just realized that you could mount the sparse bundle itself 
read-only and restore from that (might need a bash command to mount the sparse 
bundle read only, never tried asking finder to do it.)

(In my case, I have restored from a time machine backup long ago. At least now 
I know that all my hardlinks are broken. But my really old stuff from PPC days 
is on a sparse bundle ... go figure for luck.)

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Using core storage / logical volumes to extend a partition

[Michael]

So one of my partitions filled up too soon :-). It's on a 4 TB drive, and I 
figured I'd shrink the time machine backup on the same disk to make more room.

Except that I found that the partition layout put the time machine partition at 
the front of the drive, and the data partition at the end of the drive.

So my first thought was to look at core storage and logical volumes. The 
thinking was to turn the existing data partition into a logical volume, and 
then add a second logical volume to it -- resizing the data without having to 
copy it.

I can't find anything in diskutil's man page to describe how to add a new 
physical volume to a logical volume.

A "workable" (but slow) solution is to just delete the TM (3 tb), put a copy of 
the data at the front of the drive, and make a new smaller TM at the end. That 
would work, but copying a full TB of data on the same spindle is slow. (Not a 
big deal, just an annoyance).

My question is: What can be done with core storage? How can you add new 
physical volumes to existing partitions?

Perhaps more usefully / generally: Lets say you had a large, 4 TB drive that 
you knew you were going to have different data stored on. You break it up into 
8 1/2 TB partitions. You want to be able to expand two different logical 
volumes/partitions as needed, not knowing ahead of time which one would need 
how much of the space.

How would something like this be done with core storage, or is this not what 
core storage is intended for?

(10.9.5, in case that matters).

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Re: Using core storage / logical volumes to extend a partition

[Michael]

On 2017-07-20, at 7:15 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:

>> 
>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 6:09 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2017-07-20, at 1:22 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Number one, a bigger hub would probably be the cheapest and most efficient 
>>> way out of your problem.
>>> 
>>> Number two, I can't imagine there's anything magic about an Apple optical 
>>> that requires it to be directly connected, as long as you have a powered 
>>> hub, which you want to have anyway. Sure, possibly you won't be able to 
>>> boot from it, but who does that anymore?
>> 
>> Actually, attempting to plug it into a hub does bring up a "This drive must 
>> be directly connected to the computer" message. Apparently, the computer 
>> will provide more power than a normal (even powered) hub will when a device 
>> asks in an Apple manner.
> 
> Well, damn.  Yeah, I was aware of the hardware hack in Apple products where 
> if you plug an iPad (and maybe an iPhone) into a Mac, they negotiate for the 
> double-secret-probation nonstandard-high-current quick-charge option over the 
> USB port, which the Mac will give to no other device.  I was unaware this 
> hack extended to opticals.  Now I'm curious as to what the hell an optical 
> thinks it needs all that extra power for.

I don't know, but i'm really unhappy to have an apple optical :-)

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Re: Using core storage / logical volumes to extend a partition

[Michael]

On 2017-07-20, at 1:22 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:

> Number one, a bigger hub would probably be the cheapest and most efficient 
> way out of your problem.
> 
> Number two, I can't imagine there's anything magic about an Apple optical 
> that requires it to be directly connected, as long as you have a powered hub, 
> which you want to have anyway. Sure, possibly you won't be able to boot from 
> it, but who does that anymore?

Actually, attempting to plug it into a hub does bring up a "This drive must be 
directly connected to the computer" message. Apparently, the computer will 
provide more power than a normal (even powered) hub will when a device asks in 
an Apple manner.

And yes, a bigger hub is an answer. I did not know of bigger ones. I've only 
ever seen 4-port USB hubs being sold, and thought that was some limit of the 
protocol (figured a two-bit enumeration at some point in the connection 
protocol.)


> 
>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2017-07-20, at 12:51 PM, Andy Ringsmuth <a...@andyring.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 20, 2017, at 12:31 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> So one of my partitions filled up too soon :-). It's on a 4 TB drive, and 
>>>> I figured I'd shrink the time machine backup on the same disk to make more 
>>>> room.
>>>> 
>>>> Except that I found that the partition layout put the time machine 
>>>> partition at the front of the drive, and the data partition at the end of 
>>>> the drive.
>>>> 
>>>> So my first thought was to look at core storage and logical volumes. The 
>>>> thinking was to turn the existing data partition into a logical volume, 
>>>> and then add a second logical volume to it -- resizing the data without 
>>>> having to copy it.
>>>> 
>>>> I can't find anything in diskutil's man page to describe how to add a new 
>>>> physical volume to a logical volume.
>>>> 
>>>> A "workable" (but slow) solution is to just delete the TM (3 tb), put a 
>>>> copy of the data at the front of the drive, and make a new smaller TM at 
>>>> the end. That would work, but copying a full TB of data on the same 
>>>> spindle is slow. (Not a big deal, just an annoyance).
>>>> 
>>>> My question is: What can be done with core storage? How can you add new 
>>>> physical volumes to existing partitions?
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps more usefully / generally: Lets say you had a large, 4 TB drive 
>>>> that you knew you were going to have different data stored on. You break 
>>>> it up into 8 1/2 TB partitions. You want to be able to expand two 
>>>> different logical volumes/partitions as needed, not knowing ahead of time 
>>>> which one would need how much of the space.
>>>> 
>>>> How would something like this be done with core storage, or is this not 
>>>> what core storage is intended for?
>>> 
>>> Michael,
>>> 
>>> Never, never, ever, use Time Machine on a partitioned disk. It defeats the 
>>> whole purpose of having a backup. If Time Machine is backing up other items 
>>> on that same physical disk, your backup is basically worthless. If the disk 
>>> dies, you lose your original data and the backup.
>>> 
>>> Disks are cheap. You can get 4TB for around a hundred bucks. Get one 
>>> dedicated disk for Time Machine and for absolutely positively nothing else.
>>> 
>>> Then, go from there on the rest of your partitions.
>> 
>> Ok, so I have a machine with two USB ports. One has a hub. One has my backup 
>> drive. One has my DVD drive.
>> 
>> So I'm already having to swap things around -- if I plug in the DVD drive 
>> (Apple's official drive, won't work in a hub, has to be connected directly), 
>> I have to move the external to the hub -- which means any terminal window on 
>> there, or anything using stuff on there, gets clobbered.
>> 
>> Another drive? How do I hook it up? I'm already filling the hub, and having 
>> to plug/unplug things as I go.
>> 
>> The primary purpose of the time machine drive is to hold a backup copy of 
>> what's on the internal SSD inside the laptop. The secondary purpose is to 
>> have space for additional stuff. The drive is pretty much only videos -- 
>> either older videos that I'm finished with, or low-priority footage that 
>> I'll probably discard instead of usi

Comparing two directories

[Michael]

What's a good, relatively fast way to compare two directory trees?

My first thought was "diff -r", but that's trying to compare the content of the 
files. Now, corruption can occur in data transfer, yes, but if I just want to 
see that every file is there, same meta-data (size, date, owner, ACL's, etc) -- 
basically, I want to see if anything went wrong in a copy.


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Re: Best way to duplicate a directory on a mac?

[Michael]

On 2017-07-23, at 12:00 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:

> The way we used to evade this problem 30 years ago was to select an archival 
> or compression utility that preserved all of the file system properties we 
> needed transferred, throw its output into a pipe, and use the dearchival 
> invocation to re-extract it into the target space.

So, the best way is to make a time machine backup, and the restore that???

Sheesh :-)

> 
>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What is the best way to duplicate a directory tree on a mac?
>> 
>> Assume I'm at the command line, as "sudo bash".
>> 
>> Assume I want *everything*, as much as possible -- ACL's, ownerships, file 
>> forks, etc. -- as perfect of a "clone" as you can get (and no, there is no 
>> clone command --
>> keybounceMBP:/ michael$ man -k clone
>> Clone(3pm)   - recursively copy Perl datatypes
>> curl_easy_duphandle(3)   - Clone a libcurl session handle
>> nano(1)  - Nano's ANOther editor, an enhanced free Pico clone
>> snmp_pdu_add_variable(3), snmp_varlist_add_variable(3), 
>> snmp_add_null_var(3), snmp_clone_varbind(3), snmp_set_var_objid(3), 
>> snmp_set_var_value(3), snmp_set_var_typed_value(3), 
>> snmp_set_var_typed_integer(3), print_variable(3), fprint_variable(3), 
>> snprint_variable(3), print_value(3), fprint_value(3), snprint_value(3), 
>> snmp_free_var(3), snmp_free_varbind(3) - netsnmp_varbind_api functions
>> snmp_pdu_create(3), snmp_clone_pdu(3), snmp_fix_pdu(3), snmp_free_pdu(3) - 
>> netsnmp_pdu_api functions
>> git-clone(1) - Clone a repository into a new directory
>> 
>> -- none of those are "clone a file".)
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Best way to duplicate a directory on a mac?

[Michael]

What is the best way to duplicate a directory tree on a mac?

Assume I'm at the command line, as "sudo bash".

Assume I want *everything*, as much as possible -- ACL's, ownerships, file 
forks, etc. -- as perfect of a "clone" as you can get (and no, there is no 
clone command --
keybounceMBP:/ michael$ man -k clone
Clone(3pm)   - recursively copy Perl datatypes
curl_easy_duphandle(3)   - Clone a libcurl session handle
nano(1)  - Nano's ANOther editor, an enhanced free Pico clone
snmp_pdu_add_variable(3), snmp_varlist_add_variable(3), snmp_add_null_var(3), 
snmp_clone_varbind(3), snmp_set_var_objid(3), snmp_set_var_value(3), 
snmp_set_var_typed_value(3), snmp_set_var_typed_integer(3), print_variable(3), 
fprint_variable(3), snprint_variable(3), print_value(3), fprint_value(3), 
snprint_value(3), snmp_free_var(3), snmp_free_varbind(3) - netsnmp_varbind_api 
functions
snmp_pdu_create(3), snmp_clone_pdu(3), snmp_fix_pdu(3), snmp_free_pdu(3) - 
netsnmp_pdu_api functions
git-clone(1) - Clone a repository into a new directory

-- none of those are "clone a file".)

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Re: Best way to duplicate a directory on a mac?

[Michael]

>>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is the best way to duplicate a directory tree on a mac?
>> 
>> Considering that my first attempt failed to account for all 5 timestamps 
>> (remember, only 3 are seen by unix programs, but finder wants to show you 
>> last opened and date added, and those are NOT atime and ctime), I went back 
>> and did a time machine copy.
>> 
>> Still in backup; I'll have a restore ready to look at in the morning

Well, it turns out that even Time Machine cannot restore Date Added. It does 
restore last opened. I did not check ctime, but I figure if anything can set 
that, TM will.

And my previously-full 1 TB partition of data is now living comfortably on a 
1.7 TB partition.

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Re: Best way to duplicate a directory on a mac?

[Michael]

On 2017-07-23, at 2:20 PM, Neil Laubenthal <n...@laubenthal.net> wrote:

> It’s not a command line thing…but CarbonCopyCloner will do that for you 
> pretty nicely. I think it uses sudo ditto underneath it all…or maybe rsync, 
> not really sure. 
> 
> It typically gets pretty high marks on actually cloning everything.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What is the best way to duplicate a directory tree on a mac?

Considering that my first attempt failed to account for all 5 timestamps 
(remember, only 3 are seen by unix programs, but finder wants to show you last 
opened and date added, and those are NOT atime and ctime), I went back and did 
a time machine copy.

Still in backup; I'll have a restore ready to look at in the morning.

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Re: Best way to duplicate a directory on a mac?

[Michael]

On 2017-07-23, at 1:09 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:

> Probably not, as it's impossible to make Time Machine put the result where 
> you really want it — at best, it will only put it right beside where you 
> originally got it.

"sudo tmutil restore" can put it back whereever I want. Yea, Finder's interface 
only restores in-place.

> 
> Frankly (see my post of two minutes again) it's getting increasingly 
> difficult simply to make Time Machine even do Time Machining properly.

I seem to have missed that message -- what's wrong with TM as a TM?

> 
>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 12:10 PM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 2017-07-23, at 12:00 PM, Macs R We <macs...@macsrwe.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The way we used to evade this problem 30 years ago was to select an 
>>> archival or compression utility that preserved all of the file system 
>>> properties we needed transferred, throw its output into a pipe, and use the 
>>> dearchival invocation to re-extract it into the target space.
>> 
>> So, the best way is to make a time machine backup, and the restore that???
>> 
>> Sheesh :-)
>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 23, 2017, at 11:55 AM, Michael <keybou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> What is the best way to duplicate a directory tree on a mac?
>>>> 
>>>> Assume I'm at the command line, as "sudo bash".
>>>> 
>>>> Assume I want *everything*, as much as possible -- ACL's, ownerships, file 
>>>> forks, etc. -- as perfect of a "clone" as you can get (and no, there is no 
>>>> clone command --
>>>> keybounceMBP:/ michael$ man -k clone
>>>> Clone(3pm)   - recursively copy Perl datatypes
>>>> curl_easy_duphandle(3)   - Clone a libcurl session handle
>>>> nano(1)  - Nano's ANOther editor, an enhanced free Pico 
>>>> clone
>>>> snmp_pdu_add_variable(3), snmp_varlist_add_variable(3), 
>>>> snmp_add_null_var(3), snmp_clone_varbind(3), snmp_set_var_objid(3), 
>>>> snmp_set_var_value(3), snmp_set_var_typed_value(3), 
>>>> snmp_set_var_typed_integer(3), print_variable(3), fprint_variable(3), 
>>>> snprint_variable(3), print_value(3), fprint_value(3), snprint_value(3), 
>>>> snmp_free_var(3), snmp_free_varbind(3) - netsnmp_varbind_api functions
>>>> snmp_pdu_create(3), snmp_clone_pdu(3), snmp_fix_pdu(3), snmp_free_pdu(3) - 
>>>> netsnmp_pdu_api functions
>>>> git-clone(1) - Clone a repository into a new directory
>>>> 
>>>> -- none of those are "clone a file".)
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Re: [amugtalk] Sierra Time Machine -- new, cleaner interface

[Michael]

On 2017-07-23, at 1:21 PM, Macs R We  wrote:

> Oh, this is precious.  I honestly don't know whether or not to feel stupider 
> than the guy who programmed this user-hostile UI.
> 
> If the window you are trying to retrieve backups for (Finder, Mail, whatever) 
> happens to be set to occupy most of the height of the screen, the image of 
> that window in Time Machine will COVER the Restore button!  

No, you should not feel stupider.

Considering that most windows are "full screen" (meaning the dock, title bar, 
and menu bar all take up space), and "real full screen" (all those get out of 
your way) is so hostile to multiple-app usage as to not be used, testing for 
"full screen" behavior should have been on their checklist of things to test.

And no, I am not mistaken in my description of the "Create a new space and 
disable alt-tab from working nicely" mode. Have the folks at Cupertino never 
used a toolchain where multiple different programs are used in sequence to 
accomplish something? :-)

Seriously, if I did not know that this was now impossible, I would have thought 
that somewhere along the way, a developer inserted a "rogue feature" that was 
undocumented, by modifying some other common routine without checking for where 
that routine was used, nor even documenting the new behavior of that routine. I 
mean, seriously, I can at least excuse Microsoft for their "Labels disappear 
from image folders" problem, as it won't show up on new installs (bug not 
triggered), and it's not like you'll test it a second time after testing 
everything else on your system. And they did fix that as soon as it was 
discovered/identified.

That it happened to me on every windows system I ever used (hint: I was a 
strong keyboard interface user, avoiding the mouse as much as possible, so I 
probably triggered that keystroke effect frequently) made me certain that 
Microsoft was an idiot. Never occurred to me that it was someone doing 
something deliberately wrong like that.

I mean, it is impossible now, right? Programmers are no longer expected to make 
UI decisions on things with system-wide implications, right? That's the thing 
that UI designers are for, right? I mean, that was the whole thing with Jobs, 
"Here is a UI rule, programmers follow this rule" rather than every programmer 
doing something different, X-windows style, right? That's now a thing of the 
past, right?

(I know, someone will tell me I'm still dreaming).

I do like being able to make the window bigger in time machine. I hate how 
small any finder window becomes after going in, and worse is that it 
"remembers" the new smaller, "more energy efficient" size :-)

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