date:20100701

They do, it's called an iPod Touch.
On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Simon F wrote:

 I've got a crazy question for people,
 
 Why don't they make an iPad the size of an iPhone / iPod touch.
 I'd like the pad with the ability to use it with a sim card.
 But not needing the phone. That way you have the tools and a size that fits
 in your pocket.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2010 11:10 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: facetime
 
 Ah darn! Well that's coming then for me n about 3 weeks. lol!
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 let me qualify that statement, you don't download it form the app store,
 it is only available for iphone4 users...
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 I don't use vidio calling as the phone us usaully on a desk. lol but
 thanks for the app. I'll put it in my wish list.
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 Hi all iPhone users,
 
 I just used facetime with my friend and I love it. the audio quality is
 top notch and the video quality is excellent, very little stuttering in the
 video or audio, but he called me from the apple store with the demo phone so
 the network was probably held down.. it reminds me of austin powers video
 phone
 
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Re: Python

2010-07-01 Thread Larry Skutchan

It is, indeed, easy to write accessible GUI applications on the Mac in Python. 
One way to do it is with WX Widgets. This provides your program standard Mac 
controls that are accessible just like you see them in other programs. Check 
out the WX Widgets page at python.org.

On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I've had some limited success with Python for Mac. I've gotten my programs to 
 run by writing them in a text editing file and then importing the code into 
 terminal. As far as I know, however, It's not possible to write accessible 
 GUIs in Python for Mac.
 
 Rafael Bejarano
 
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:15 PM
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 Subject: Python
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am relatively inexperienced when it comes to programming, and am wondering 
 if any of you have had luck programming with Python on the Mac. I believe 
 that the Terminal allows for built-in functionality, yet I have also heard 
 that it cannot handle certain scripting which I will need to do for work. I 
 downloaded the Python IDLE for Mac, but it does not appear to be accessible 
 with VoiceOver. Does Windows or another OS work any better? Please let me 
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Re: Python

2010-07-01 Thread Larry Skutchan

You can write them either for Linux or the Mac GUI. I would sure love to see 
some of you talented coders at work on some great Mac applications.
I am still new to the Mac, but it looks like a pretty easy job to use wx 
widgets and Python. You still need a good editor to write these. So far, I'm 
fairly happy with Bean and, to some degree, Dashcode. Does anyone know of some 
better ones that are accessible? I know the editor in Eclipse is not useable as 
far as I can tell, but the rest of the system is and you can still use external 
editors. 

On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Is it possible to create accessible GUIs with Python in Linux? If so, it 
 would be worth loading Linux onto my Mac.
 
 Cordially,
 
 Rafael 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Keith Watson [tkwatso...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:24 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Python
 
 Hi,
 
 I have not found a good python editor for the MAC yet. I cheat. I have a 
 GNU/Linux VM that I use to edit my code with. I am more comfortable with VI 
 anyway.
 
 Keith
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've had some limited success with Python for Mac. I've gotten my programs 
 to run by writing them in a text editing file and then importing the code 
 into terminal. As far as I know, however, It's not possible to write 
 accessible GUIs in Python for Mac.
 
 Rafael Bejarano
 
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 Behalf Of Lindsay Yazzolino [lindsay3...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries
 Subject: Python
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am relatively inexperienced when it comes to programming, and am wondering 
 if any of you have had luck programming with Python on the Mac. I believe 
 that the Terminal allows for built-in functionality, yet I have also heard 
 that it cannot handle certain scripting which I will need to do for work. I 
 downloaded the Python IDLE for Mac, but it does not appear to be accessible 
 with VoiceOver. Does Windows or another OS work any better? Please let me 
 know if you have any suggestions. THanks.
 
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Re: facetime

yeah, we do have that, it's called the iPod touch
On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Simon F wrote:

 I've got a crazy question for people,
 
 Why don't they make an iPad the size of an iPhone / iPod touch.
 I'd like the pad with the ability to use it with a sim card.
 But not needing the phone. That way you have the tools and a size that fits
 in your pocket.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2010 11:10 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: facetime
 
 Ah darn! Well that's coming then for me n about 3 weeks. lol!
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 let me qualify that statement, you don't download it form the app store,
 it is only available for iphone4 users...
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 I don't use vidio calling as the phone us usaully on a desk. lol but
 thanks for the app. I'll put it in my wish list.
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 Hi all iPhone users,
 
 I just used facetime with my friend and I love it. the audio quality is
 top notch and the video quality is excellent, very little stuttering in the
 video or audio, but he called me from the apple store with the demo phone so
 the network was probably held down.. it reminds me of austin powers video
 phone
 
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RE: facetime

2010-07-01 Thread Simon F

Scott, your partly right,

 I mean an iPod touch, that  you can put a sim card in and use mobile data,
rather than wireless b/g.

 I can't use my iPod touch when I'm in the middle of BFKW, or simply have no
wireless network to connect to.

 But yeah you got the idea.

 An iPod touch that lets you do everything that the iPhone does, but doesn't
have a phone. 

 Basically an iPad but iPod touch and lets you use a sim for mobile data.


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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facetime

They do, it's called an iPod Touch.
On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Simon F wrote:

 I've got a crazy question for people,
 
 Why don't they make an iPad the size of an iPhone / iPod touch.
 I'd like the pad with the ability to use it with a sim card.
 But not needing the phone. That way you have the tools and a size that 
 fits in your pocket.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2010 11:10 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: facetime
 
 Ah darn! Well that's coming then for me n about 3 weeks. lol!
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 let me qualify that statement, you don't download it form the app 
 store,
 it is only available for iphone4 users...
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 I don't use vidio calling as the phone us usaully on a desk. lol but
 thanks for the app. I'll put it in my wish list.
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 Hi all iPhone users,
 
 I just used facetime with my friend and I love it. the audio 
 quality is
 top notch and the video quality is excellent, very little stuttering 
 in the video or audio, but he called me from the apple store with the 
 demo phone so the network was probably held down.. it reminds me of 
 austin powers video phone
 
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RE: facetime

2010-07-01 Thread Simon F

 The iPod touch doesn't have a 3g / sim card slot.
 So no you don't have that.


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst
Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2010 9:57 p.m.
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: facetime

yeah, we do have that, it's called the iPod touch On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:07
AM, Simon F wrote:

 I've got a crazy question for people,
 
 Why don't they make an iPad the size of an iPhone / iPod touch.
 I'd like the pad with the ability to use it with a sim card.
 But not needing the phone. That way you have the tools and a size that 
 fits in your pocket.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2010 11:10 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: facetime
 
 Ah darn! Well that's coming then for me n about 3 weeks. lol!
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 let me qualify that statement, you don't download it form the app 
 store,
 it is only available for iphone4 users...
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 I don't use vidio calling as the phone us usaully on a desk. lol but
 thanks for the app. I'll put it in my wish list.
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 Hi all iPhone users,
 
 I just used facetime with my friend and I love it. the audio 
 quality is
 top notch and the video quality is excellent, very little stuttering 
 in the video or audio, but he called me from the apple store with the 
 demo phone so the network was probably held down.. it reminds me of 
 austin powers video phone
 
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Re: Pages09

2010-07-01 Thread Paul

Hello Barry. I created a simple table using tabs as the column
delimiter and the carriage return as the row delimiter. I then
converted the text to the table. I was able to move over the table and
Voice Over said that it was highlighted. I then went into the
inspector checked the wrap radio button and selected the Object float
radio button. The inspector opened but I couldn't read anything.
Suggestions?

Thanks so much.

On Jun 29, 11:59 am, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just select the text to convert and choose format  table  convert text to 
 table.  

 After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo 
 will announce hi lighted.  That is the only indication that anything is 
 there.  However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, 
 selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object 
 placement radio group.

 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote:



  Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the
  column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then
  convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word.
  Can you provide some step by step procedures?

  Thanks so much.

  On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
  I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other 
  objects with little or no difficulty.  When they are floating, they are 
  found in the lay-out area.  Also, you can convert an in-line table to text 
  and back again.  A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line 
  charictors as rows.  You can also create a table in this way and convert 
  it to an in-line table.

  On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:

  Hello Paul,

  On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote:
  I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like
  to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0
  2.1 2.2. etc.
  Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind.

  I also like to use tables in my documents and to write
  letters and memos.
  Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't 
  see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages 
  documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you 
  can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, 
  then copy it back again. Messy, but doable.

  Finally, I like to create address lists that I can
  translate into
  Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge
  facilities.
  Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to 
  spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09.

  Finally, are their more templates available for pages09
  that are not in the template chooser?
  I don't think so, but you can create your own.

  Do you also use numbers?
  Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it.

  I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents.

  I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver.

  Cheers,

  Anne

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Re: iphone 4 in Canada?

2010-07-01 Thread Kaare Dehard

fido is Rogers, but with different staff billing options and plans. 
On 2010-06-30, at 1:33 PM, Carin Headrick wrote:

 Isn't Fido Rogers?

 Carin
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 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:30 PM
 Subject: Re: iphone 4 in Canada?

 Hi Karen,  I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people, 
 especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier.

 For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy a 
 phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada.  not 
 bell or telus, and especially not rogers.  In case I should ever be forced 
 to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never 
 approaching anything that looks like a contract.  Bad bad bad news.

 In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and 
 then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll 
 check mobilicity and see if they can support it.

 Best,

 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194

 On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Hey!
 Something I may be able to help with, smiles.
 Who is your provider?
 For example  cellular point  stores have them for bell at last in Toronto.
 best way might be to phone the  cell company you are considering, ask if 
 they have the a phone and for a dealer near you.
 I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto.
 Karen

 On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Hi guys,  Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada?  I can't find 
 either a due date or an msrp.  This is very annoying when trying to 
 purchase equipment for a business.

 Thanks,

 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194

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Re: facetime

2010-07-01 Thread Charlie Doremus

Just buy an out of contract iPhone and you would have what you want. Happen to 
have a 32g 3GS for sale. Contract off list for details. 

Aloha,
Charlie

On Jun 30, 2010, at 11:34 PM, Simon F si...@blinky-net.com wrote:

 Scott, your partly right,
 
 I mean an iPod touch, that  you can put a sim card in and use mobile data,
 rather than wireless b/g.
 
 I can't use my iPod touch when I'm in the middle of BFKW, or simply have no
 wireless network to connect to.
 
 But yeah you got the idea.
 
 An iPod touch that lets you do everything that the iPhone does, but doesn't
 have a phone. 
 
 Basically an iPad but iPod touch and lets you use a sim for mobile data.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2010 9:08 p.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: facetime
 
 They do, it's called an iPod Touch.
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:07 AM, Simon F wrote:
 
 I've got a crazy question for people,
 
 Why don't they make an iPad the size of an iPhone / iPod touch.
 I'd like the pad with the ability to use it with a sim card.
 But not needing the phone. That way you have the tools and a size that 
 fits in your pocket.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, 1 July 2010 11:10 a.m.
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: facetime
 
 Ah darn! Well that's coming then for me n about 3 weeks. lol!
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 let me qualify that statement, you don't download it form the app 
 store,
 it is only available for iphone4 users...
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 7:03 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 I don't use vidio calling as the phone us usaully on a desk. lol but
 thanks for the app. I'll put it in my wish list.
 
 S
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 1:06 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 Hi all iPhone users,
 
 I just used facetime with my friend and I love it. the audio 
 quality is
 top notch and the video quality is excellent, very little stuttering 
 in the video or audio, but he called me from the apple store with the 
 demo phone so the network was probably held down.. it reminds me of 
 austin powers video phone
 
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Re: New Pulsar with VoiceOver

2010-07-01 Thread Nicolai Svendsen

Hi,

Don't forget the effects area in Nicecast and Audio Highjack. heh

Regards,
Nic
Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com
Facebook
Twitter
Skype: Kvalme
MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
AIM: cincinster

On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:35 AM, Orin wrote:

 Now all we need to be accessible and labled is RadioShift.
 
 
 Orin
 orin8...@gmail.com
 Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks
 Skype: orin1112
 My attempt at a novel: http://tinyurl.com/2foa22l
 [O
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:35 PM, Robert Carter wrote:
 
 
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com
 Date: June 30, 2010 2:26:29 PM CDT
 To: Robert Carter nc5rn...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: New Pulsar with VoiceOver
 
 Hi All,
 
 JUst after I sent the email about pulsar not working with VoiceOver, I got 
 email from the developer with a new beta attached. It works great with 
 VoiceOver. They said that the next release will include VoiceOver 
 accessibility.
 
 Way to go Rogue Amoeba.
 
 Robert Carter
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 10:53 AM, Robert Carter wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There is a new version of Pulsar. Pulsar is a program that allows one to 
 listen to XM Radio if you have an online account. unfortunately, this new 
 version seems to have taken several steps in the wrong direction as far as 
 accessibility goes. At least that is my experience so far. Has anybody 
 found a reasonable way to access this software?
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: iphone 4 in Canada?

2010-07-01 Thread erik burggraaf

Fido is *not* rogers.  They are two different companies owned on paper by the 
same people using the same sell phone towers.

Best,

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On 2010-07-01, at 7:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:

 fido is Rogers, but with different staff billing options and plans. 
 On 2010-06-30, at 1:33 PM, Carin Headrick wrote:
 
 Isn't Fido Rogers?
 
 Carin
 - Original Message - 
 From: erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:30 PM
 Subject: Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
 
 
 Hi Karen,  I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people, 
 especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier.
 
 For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy a 
 phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada.  not 
 bell or telus, and especially not rogers.  In case I should ever be forced 
 to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never 
 approaching anything that looks like a contract.  Bad bad bad news.
 
 In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and 
 then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll 
 check mobilicity and see if they can support it.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194
 
 On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 
 Hey!
 Something I may be able to help with, smiles.
 Who is your provider?
 For example  cellular point  stores have them for bell at last in Toronto.
 best way might be to phone the  cell company you are considering, ask if 
 they have the a phone and for a dealer near you.
 I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto.
 Karen
 
 On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
 
 Hi guys,  Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada?  I can't find 
 either a due date or an msrp.  This is very annoying when trying to 
 purchase equipment for a business.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
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Brief iBooks pause at page transition and Stanza suggestions for iPhone [was Re: iPhone update!]

Hi Brett,

I'm cc'ing this reply about reading eBooks in apps on the iPhone, iPod
Touch, and iPad to the macvisionaries list. You wrote:

For those who are using iBooks to read epub files, are you noticing
around a two second pause when page transitions occur in continuous
reading? I am wondering if there is a way to either completely
remove the pause or reduce it, so that say all functions more
smoothly.

If I read a book in file app, or in stanza, SayAll just reads
continuously with out pauses between pages and this is the way I
would like to read if possible in iBooks.

Any suggestions welcome.

Unfortunately there's no way to disable the fancy page turn
simulation at the transition in the iBooks settings options. You're
not the only one who noticed this. In a review titled iOS 4 brings
the usual bang from Apple for mobile in the Chicago Sun-Times, Andy
Ihnatko gave a very positive review of iBooks (and other iOS 4
features), but stated: I do wish I could disable the fancy page-curl
animation. On an iPhone 3GS, at least, there’s a slight, but annoying,
additional pause as the app does a whole lot of math. Full article is
at:

http://www.suntimes.com/technology/ihnatko/2428780,ihnatko-apple-ios4-iphone-apple-062410.article

How are you finding the reading experience in Stanza? Are you using
this to read your own text content converted to epub, or are you
reading from either the free or commercial library selections from the
Get Books menu button? If you'd like to try reading some commercial
but free (and DRM-free) books, you can try using the following
directions to access books in the Baen Free Library. You must already
have downloaded the Stanza app on your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad,
and you must access the links I'll supply from that device -- and not
from your computer. (Quick background: Baen Books is a commercial
publisher of science fiction. They were early entrants into eBooks,
and sell their works in multiple formats -- all free of DRM. They also
maintain the Baen Free Library of books by authors who are willing to
make them available for free distribution on that basis -- often older
works or the first books in series. Because these books can also be
read in, for instance, an HTML version, it's easy to check the reading
experience and content of the eBook versions on the iPod Touch to
evaluate the eReader software. The publisher also, very early on, took
advantage of Stanza's ability to provide easy tools to link in to
Stanza's catalogs or shared library. These instructions excerpt and
paste in that link from a much longer web page description which
states that the easiest way to add access to the eBooks from Stanza is
to click on the link that I supply below.)

1. From your iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad (with Stanza among the
applications), double tap on the link to:

stanzacatalog://www.webscription.net/stanza.aspx

2. You'll be taken to an Add Book Source page, with text fields for
Name and URL filled in with default values, and the button for
Catalog (as opposed to Web Page) selected following these
entries. Focus will be in the text field for the Book Source name,
and the virtual keyboard should be activated with insertion point at
the end. You can simply accept all the defaults by double tapping the
Save button in the top right corner, but I prefer to first shorten
the Name in the text field to Webscriptions so that I don't have
to listen to URL extensions announced when selecting my books source
in Stanza. You can either just use the delete key or touch the first
text field at the top center of the screen and flick right to the
clear text button and double tap, then type in your amended name.

3. Double tap the Save button at the top right corner of the Add
Book Source page.

4. You'll be taken to the Stanza Catalog Get Books page (in the
Stanza app). The Get Books (selected) button is the second of four
buttons on the bottom of the screen, following (in left to right
order) the Library button, and succeeded by the Now Reading and
Info buttons. At the top of the screen are buttons for
Catalogs (selected), Shared, and Downloads. The center of the
page contains a list view of Bookstores and Free Books sources that
are default entries for the Stanza app. To access the new Book Source
you've added, double tap the Shared button at the top center of the
screen.

5. The Shared Books page should show your Webscriptions entry in the
list view under Book Sources. (If you accepted the default values
without editing, it will appear with the longer URL name and the .net
extension). This page is also where you can access books that you
transfer from your computer though Wi-Fi via Stanza desktop (when you
Enable Sharing under the Tools menu), by selecting the Books on
your computer name entry that will appear under Computers Sharing
Books.

6. To access

customizing apple mail help

2010-07-01 Thread Josh Kennedy

Hello,

I managed to set up my email account in apple mail today. However, can someone 
please tell me how to make all new messages go to my google mail inbox? I 
changed the incoming server to pop.gmail.com and changed the ports and stuff 
but for some reason in my mailboxes folder I got this gmail expandable item and 
when I hit vo backslash and go into all mail it says i got thousands and 
thousands of messages. when I hit command a, followed by command delete the 
messages go away, but next time I open apple mail they all come back! And I 
want all new messages to go into my inbox. So if someone could please email me 
at the email address of jkenn...@gmail.com and explain how to fix this I would 
appreciate it. Thanks.

Josh Kennedy

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please help me set up apple mail

2010-07-01 Thread Josh

Hello,

I need help setting up apple mail. My email address is
jkenn...@gmail.com and my phone number is 610-373-1245. I set up a
google mail account and then deleted it because it was not working
right. I'm pretty familiar with how to use voice over but apple mail
is giving me troubles. I got a all mail mailbox with 5000 some
messages inside it, and also for some reason new messages are not
going into my inbox like I would like them to. So if someone could
call me, or email me and tell me how or maybe give me a hand setting
up my mail kind of like it was in windows where all new mail would go
into the inbox and I use a pop email account with google mail I would
appreciate it. I just got my macbook yesterday. I since I am having
trouble setting up apple mail I have been forced to use safari to
check and send mail through the web. I am impressed with this macbook
pro! it works great! its not the mac's fault that I'm having trouble
setting up my mail, its the fact that I am not used to the apple mail
software. At one point with the imap server set up it said it was
downloading 1 of 5000 emails and when I went into webmail it said
there are only 93 or so in my google mail inbox. so I'm doing
something wrong here guys.

thanks

Josh

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RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Bryan Smart

When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive about 
where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually making another 
copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. Copying a 1GB folder 
takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a 1GB folder is almost 
instant.

Bryan
 

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On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If one 
were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it take 
just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?

Teresa
On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:

 Hi Teresa,
 I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and paste 
 versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag and drop 
 would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is. When you drag 
 and drop something from one place to another, it is almost instantaneous. By 
 contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes, like an Itunes 
 library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake alone, dragging 
 and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things from one spot to 
 another, if only we could utilize it. 
 Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering, of 
 course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which 
 takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be 
 implemented in voiceover. 
 
 John
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 
 Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live without 
 a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually knew about 
 that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic feature of an OS, 
 I wouldn't use the OS.
 
 As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do it, 
 but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make 
 bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do 
 it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
 
 there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to 
 simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level 
 has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is 
 not likely to go awyay... 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Kaare.
 On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in 
 leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why would 
 it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, Teresa 
 Cochran wrote:
 
 How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move 
 applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it.  What were Apple 
 thinking of?
 
 Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of 
 scissors? (frown)
 
 Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override 
 this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck Reichel 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them 
 when drag and drop  would be fixed in Snow Leopard.
 It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there 
 attention.
 They said that they are working on it!
 Talk soon
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in 
 the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse.  So I 
 tried to use command + x to cut and no joy.  However, cut works in 
 text edit etc.  I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will 
 let you know if they come back with anything constructive.  Anyone 
 else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple too.
 On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote:
 
 hi ,
 if it can help you  here you can find the script move file .
 this helps for the cut and paste .
 http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/
 let us know if you need help .
 rossy
 www.universalaccess.it
 
 Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto:
 
 How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another?  
 I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I 
 did not understand how to do this.  Has anyone had success 
 doing this, if so can you tell me the tricks and tips about 
 dragging a file or folder
 
 
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RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Bryan Smart

Because no one needs it, except for the 1% of 1% of Mac users that are blind. 
Would have thought that someone would have even had spare time to get around to 
it by now. Has been that way a long long time.

I'll have a better solution for this than the move file script by next week, 
along with some other interesting news.

Bryan

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Cody Hurst
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:27 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

For as advanced as the finder is, I don't see hwo this could have been an issue 
at all, especially now. and especially considering how fast machines are 
nowadays, with multicore processors, why is this still an issue?
On Jun 30, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 There is actually a technical reason, or there was, at one point.
 
 If you cut/paste a file, that should be a move of the file. Except, if you 
 cut/paste to another hard drive, in which case, instead of a move, the Finder 
 must perform a copy to the new drive, then delete the original. Supposedly, 
 there was some complexity in having the Finder always detect which process 
 was needed, and still account for strange situations, like when a folder on a 
 volume is actually a simlink to a file server. I know that Apple could have 
 worked it out, but it wasn't a quicky fix. I suspect that they put it off for 
 when it could be better implemented, but, since most users don't need it, 
 they just kept putting it off. 
 
 Bryan
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:57 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
 
 No I have already looked, by turning VO off does not change  the fact that 
 Apple do not want users (sighted or blind) to cut in the finder.  Shame Apple 
 had not supplied a move file/folder feature for  moving items.  There used to 
 be a hack you could enter into the terminal to unlock the greyed out cut in 
 the main menu and pop up menu.  But cutting would then just move to trash.
 
 http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=20060626085238931
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On 30 Jun 2010, at 13:31, Cody Hurst w
 I tend to concur with that assessment, but this script should be easy 
 enough to set up. rather than do as the page says and install it via the 
 system preferences, one could just open voiceover and make a keyboard 
 commander short cut as none of us would be working with a ma without 
 voiceover anyway. Antoher odd thought, do you think perhaps the cut option 
 is grayed out because we're using voiceover, and when voiceover is disabled, 
 the option is ungrayed. seems silly but it could be a system wide bug, or 
 feature as it was On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:01 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote:
 
 Hi,
 This is a philosophical letter, or at least somewhat.:-) I think 
 it's odd that no screen reader in any graphical user interface that i have 
 encountered has had a good drag-n-drop feature. Surely both Jfw and Wineyes 
 has it but i have never managed to remember the commands for those things. 
 The only screen reader i've seen that has had a good drag--drop feature 
 was the old Outspoken screen reader for the older Macs, and that feature 
 was really good. I wonder if it's due to technical difficulties or what 
 could make it hard to implement this feature? and what about clicking with 
 modifiers helld down? There are many applications where you have to 
 option-click, shift click, command click or drag with modifier keys held 
 down to get a certain effect. Why doesn't this work with Voiceover? It may, 
 as i said be hard to implement so that could be why it's not possible but 
 well, i must admit it bugs me sometimes.
 /Krister
 30 jun 2010 kl. 02.08 skrev William Windels:
 
 Hi Chris,
 This is a known problem that we can't drag and drop objects in the finder.
 apple knows already of this issue but it seems that they are not planning 
 to change this in the near future.
 It's frustrated, I know but, there is a good alternative like described in 
 the mail of Rossy.
 
 I use this script and I have linked the hockey command+option+shift+x to 
 do this task.
 It goes fast enough for me but, of course, a natural command+x 
 should be better :(
 
 Hope this helps,
 best regards,
 William
 
 Op 30-jun-2010, om 01:23 heeft Chris Moore het volgende geschreven:
 
 I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in the 
 past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse.  So I tried to 
 use command + x to cut and no joy.  However, cut works in text edit etc.  
 I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if 
 they come back with anything constructive.  Anyone else who has this 
 issue, then

Re: Python

Yeah Larry and where is that app I wrote to you about a while back. :) Yeah, 
you have to do it cause you know you really want too. :) Your fingers are 
already making the motions to generate the code. :)
On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:25 AM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

 You can write them either for Linux or the Mac GUI. I would sure love to see 
 some of you talented coders at work on some great Mac applications.
 I am still new to the Mac, but it looks like a pretty easy job to use wx 
 widgets and Python. You still need a good editor to write these. So far, I'm 
 fairly happy with Bean and, to some degree, Dashcode. Does anyone know of 
 some better ones that are accessible? I know the editor in Eclipse is not 
 useable as far as I can tell, but the rest of the system is and you can still 
 use external editors. 
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:45 AM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Is it possible to create accessible GUIs with Python in Linux? If so, it 
 would be worth loading Linux onto my Mac.
 
 Cordially,
 
 Rafael 
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Keith Watson [tkwatso...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:24 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Python
 
 Hi,
 
 I have not found a good python editor for the MAC yet. I cheat. I have a 
 GNU/Linux VM that I use to edit my code with. I am more comfortable with VI 
 anyway.
 
 Keith
 
 
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:28 PM, Bejarano, Rafael P. wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've had some limited success with Python for Mac. I've gotten my programs 
 to run by writing them in a text editing file and then importing the code 
 into terminal. As far as I know, however, It's not possible to write 
 accessible GUIs in Python for Mac.
 
 Rafael Bejarano
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Lindsay Yazzolino [lindsay3...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 2:15 PM
 To: macvisionaries
 Subject: Python
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am relatively inexperienced when it comes to programming, and am 
 wondering if any of you have had luck programming with Python on the Mac. I 
 believe that the Terminal allows for built-in functionality, yet I have 
 also heard that it cannot handle certain scripting which I will need to do 
 for work. I downloaded the Python IDLE for Mac, but it does not appear to 
 be accessible with VoiceOver. Does Windows or another OS work any better? 
 Please let me know if you have any suggestions. THanks.
 
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Re: iphone 4 in Canada?

2010-07-01 Thread Kaare Dehard

I have the fortune if you like of working at the head company.
On 2010-07-01, at 8:22 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:

 Fido is *not* rogers.  They are two different companies owned on paper by the 
 same people using the same sell phone towers.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194
 
 On 2010-07-01, at 7:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
 
 fido is Rogers, but with different staff billing options and plans. 
 On 2010-06-30, at 1:33 PM, Carin Headrick wrote:
 
 Isn't Fido Rogers?
 
 Carin
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 From: erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:30 PM
 Subject: Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
 
 
 Hi Karen,  I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people, 
 especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier.
 
 For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy 
 a 
 phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada.  not 
 bell or telus, and especially not rogers.  In case I should ever be forced 
 to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never 
 approaching anything that looks like a contract.  Bad bad bad news.
 
 In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and 
 then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll 
 check mobilicity and see if they can support it.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194
 
 On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 
 Hey!
 Something I may be able to help with, smiles.
 Who is your provider?
 For example  cellular point  stores have them for bell at last in Toronto.
 best way might be to phone the  cell company you are considering, ask if 
 they have the a phone and for a dealer near you.
 I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto.
 Karen
 
 On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
 
 Hi guys,  Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada?  I can't find 
 either a due date or an msrp.  This is very annoying when trying to 
 purchase equipment for a business.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194
 
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Re: iphone 4 in Canada?

2010-07-01 Thread Karen Lewellen


Amen brother!
actually Erick, I had no idea that one might experience an iphone without 
a provider.  I still want a real demo, the person at cellar point was 
rather confused by the idea of voiceover, even though someone there knew 
of the access features.
still the idea of enough coverage and usage support to make the investment 
worth it, without having to be tied to a company that may not fully 
understand the access is a welcome alternative.

Karen

On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, erik burggraaf wrote:


Fido is *not* rogers.  They are two different companies owned on paper by the 
same people using the same sell phone towers.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
Toll-free: 888-255-5194

On 2010-07-01, at 7:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:


fido is Rogers, but with different staff billing options and plans.
On 2010-06-30, at 1:33 PM, Carin Headrick wrote:


Isn't Fido Rogers?

Carin
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Subject: Re: iphone 4 in Canada?


Hi Karen,  I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people,
especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier.

For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy a
phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada.  not
bell or telus, and especially not rogers.  In case I should ever be forced
to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never
approaching anything that looks like a contract.  Bad bad bad news.

In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and
then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll
check mobilicity and see if they can support it.

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
Toll-free: 888-255-5194

On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:


Hey!
Something I may be able to help with, smiles.
Who is your provider?
For example  cellular point  stores have them for bell at last in Toronto.
best way might be to phone the  cell company you are considering, ask if
they have the a phone and for a dealer near you.
I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto.
Karen

On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote:


Hi guys,  Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada?  I can't find
either a due date or an msrp.  This is very annoying when trying to
purchase equipment for a business.

Thanks,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
Toll-free: 888-255-5194

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iCal

2010-07-01 Thread Chris Moore

Hi all, 

Just thought I would open iCal and stick some stuff in my calendar instead of 
doing it on the iPhone.  How accessible is iCal?  As it does not seem great.  I 
found it impossible to navigate around the mini calendar, and how do you know 
what day a date falls on (i.e. is it a Thursday for example?)  Even entering 
new events was not great.

Does anyone have experience of this and are there any voiceover tutorials for 
use with iCal?

Thanks in advance

chris 

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Re: MacBooks Applications

2010-07-01 Thread Carolyn

Hi:
You might look at Maccessibility.net, and/or pose your question directly to the 
apple accessibility team at apple.com/accessibility.Actually, I'm not sure 
that link is accurate, but it'll get you on the right track.
HTH
Carolyn
ch:)
On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:44 AM, James Gallagher wrote:

 Hello all.
 
 is there a List of Applications that we can use for MacBook's
 that are accessible for us i.e. battery update  open WI-FI that are
 out there when we go to Tea shops or like me sitting in car when family
 go shopping in town.
 
 Tried to do a search for this but found very little so sorry for asking
 maybe other MacBooks users out there can offer good Applications they use 
 every day.. 
 
 all the best 
 
 Yours
 James
 
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burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do this 
in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm singing to 
them in a few days.

Thanks.

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Re: iphone 4 in Canada?

2010-07-01 Thread erik burggraaf

Well,  I'm assuming you can do this.  IE,  If I go into the apple store and by 
and Iphone it will take any sim card I want to put in it.  Thus I could buy the 
phone outright, choose my sim carrier, and ditch them if they give me grief.  
Rogers.

The exception would be carriers using CDMA such as bell and Telus.  Some of 
these are set up so that only a phone from that carrier will activate on the 
network which may mean that to use a CDMa carrier you have to buy the IPhone 
from the company.  That would of course tend to preclude my doing business with 
that company.

I'd far and away rather get support from the apple store than from any carrier 
I've done business with in canada. 

Best,

Erik Burggraaf
User support consultant,
Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
Toll-free: 888-255-5194

On 2010-07-01, at 11:22 AM, Karen Lewellen wrote:

 Amen brother!
 actually Erick, I had no idea that one might experience an iphone without a 
 provider.  I still want a real demo, the person at cellar point was rather 
 confused by the idea of voiceover, even though someone there knew of the 
 access features.
 still the idea of enough coverage and usage support to make the investment 
 worth it, without having to be tied to a company that may not fully 
 understand the access is a welcome alternative.
 Karen
 
 On Thu, 1 Jul 2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
 
 Fido is *not* rogers.  They are two different companies owned on paper by 
 the same people using the same sell phone towers.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194
 
 On 2010-07-01, at 7:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
 
 fido is Rogers, but with different staff billing options and plans.
 On 2010-06-30, at 1:33 PM, Carin Headrick wrote:
 
 Isn't Fido Rogers?
 
 Carin
 - Original Message -
 From: erik burggraaf e...@erik-burggraaf.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:30 PM
 Subject: Re: iphone 4 in Canada?
 
 
 Hi Karen,  I can understand what the appeal might be for a lot of people,
 especially if you are lucky enough to be in love with your phone carrier.
 
 For myself I can honestly say that nothing on earth would induce me to buy 
 a
 phone from any carrier I've had the misfortune to deal with in Canada.  not
 bell or telus, and especially not rogers.  In case I should ever be forced
 to buy a phone from a carrier I'll be buying the phone outright and never
 approaching anything that looks like a contract.  Bad bad bad news.
 
 In this case I think I'll quite happily grab one from the apple store and
 then just buy a prepaid simcard for it from probably fido, but maybe I'll
 check mobilicity and see if they can support it.
 
 Best,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194
 
 On 2010-06-30, at 12:30 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
 
 Hey!
 Something I may be able to help with, smiles.
 Who is your provider?
 For example  cellular point  stores have them for bell at last in Toronto.
 best way might be to phone the  cell company you are considering, ask if
 they have the a phone and for a dealer near you.
 I actually held one a month back or so here in Toronto.
 Karen
 
 On Wed, 30 Jun 2010, erik burggraaf wrote:
 
 Hi guys,  Any one know when the iphone 4 is due in Canada?  I can't find
 either a due date or an msrp.  This is very annoying when trying to
 purchase equipment for a business.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Erik Burggraaf
 User support consultant,
 Website: http://www.erik-burggraaf.com
 Toll-free: 888-255-5194
 
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Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54 minutes or 
there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows machine.

there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah.

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive 
 about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually making 
 another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. Copying a 1GB 
 folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a 1GB folder 
 is almost instant.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
 
 When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If 
 one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it 
 take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and paste 
 versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag and drop 
 would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is. When you 
 drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost 
 instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes, 
 like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake 
 alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things 
 from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. 
 Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering, of 
 course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which 
 takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be 
 implemented in voiceover. 
 
 John
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 
 Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live without 
 a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually knew about 
 that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic feature of an 
 OS, I wouldn't use the OS.
 
 As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do it, 
 but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make 
 bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do 
 it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
 
 there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used to 
 simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os level 
 has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and is 
 not likely to go awyay... 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Kaare.
 On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in 
 leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why 
 would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM, 
 Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move 
 applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it.  What were Apple 
 thinking of?
 
 Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of 
 scissors? (frown)
 
 Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override 
 this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck 
 Reichel wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them 
 when drag and drop  would be fixed in Snow Leopard.
 It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there 
 attention.
 They said that they are working on it!
 Talk soon
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse in 
 the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse.  So I 
 tried to use command + x to cut and no joy.  However, cut works in 
 text edit etc.  I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, 
 will let you know if they come back with anything constructive.  
 Anyone else who has this issue, then please send an email to Apple 
 too.
 On 29 Jun 2010, at 22:21, rossy wrote:
 
 hi ,
 if it can help you  here you can find the script move file .
 this helps for the cut and paste .
 http://www.universalaccess.it/script-english/
 let us know if you need help .
 rossy
 www.universalaccess.it
 
 Il giorno 29/giu/2010, alle ore 17.16, Alfredo ha scritto:
 
 How to you drag a file or folder from one folder to another?  
 I know this can be done, as it is in the starting guide but I 
 did not understand how to

Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which time 
they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them to a cd but 
first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn them
On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do this 
 in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm singing 
 to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
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RE: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Tinker Tweak

Respectfully .   Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive
letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be
the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a
different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few
seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb
of mp3 files.


Vic
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54 minutes
or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows
machine.

there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah.

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:

 When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive
about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually
making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. Copying
a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a 1GB
folder is almost instant.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
another?
 
 When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If
one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it
take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and
paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag
and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is.
When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost
instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes,
like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake
alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things
from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. 
 Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering,
of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which
takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be
implemented in voiceover. 

 
 John
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 
 Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live
without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually
knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic
feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS.

 
 As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do
it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make
bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do
it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
 
 there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used
to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os
level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and
is not likely to go awyay... 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Kaare.
 On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in 
 leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why
would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM,
Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move
applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it.  What were Apple
thinking of?
 
 Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of 
 scissors? (frown)
 
 Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override 
 this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck
Reichel wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them
when drag and drop  would be fixed in Snow Leopard.
 It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there
attention.
 They said that they are working on it!
 Talk soon
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse
in the past to drag and drop, now I can't see to use the mouse.  So I tried
to use command + x to cut and no joy.  However, cut works in text edit etc.
I have sent a message to Apple asking about this, will let you know if

Sound Flower?

2010-07-01 Thread clarence griffin

What is sound flower for? I have Audio Highjack pro and I was told that I would 
need sound flower, I don't seam to need it for anything. what does it do? Just 
wondering.

GF


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Re: Sound Flower?

2010-07-01 Thread Yuma Antoine Decaux

Hi GF,

Sound flower routes your audio from device to software or software to software 
for specific recording needs.
Check their website on google or something for more info


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RE: Never Mind, Was Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

2010-07-01 Thread Tinker Tweak

Sorry but it could never be the case. One cannot put files into oblivion
by using cut. The OS only actually cuts after doing a paste. More over, it
only cut and paste the  very last thing you issued the cut command. You can
press the cut command while browsing files and folders endlessly and you'll
never lose anything cause you will have to issue the paste command before it
does any actual cutting. Also it will make sure that it has pasted  first
before it will cut. You may turn off, or do a force shutdown, or just unplug
but you will never lose anything

Vic
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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Never Mind, Was Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one
location to another?

I guess I don't mind copying files instead of cutting. I've put many a file
into oblivion in Windows by cutting, so I guess I can deal with the extra
time it takes to copy.

Teresa

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Re: iCal

2010-07-01 Thread Anne Robertson

Hello Chris,

There should be an iCal user guide on:
www.icanworkthisthing.com

If you don't find it there, post again and I'll send it to you.

Cheers,

Anne


On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Chris Moore wrote:

 Hi all, 
 
 Just thought I would open iCal and stick some stuff in my calendar instead of 
 doing it on the iPhone.  How accessible is iCal?  As it does not seem great.  
 I found it impossible to navigate around the mini calendar, and how do you 
 know what day a date falls on (i.e. is it a Thursday for example?)  Even 
 entering new events was not great.
 
 Does anyone have experience of this and are there any voiceover tutorials for 
 use with iCal?
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 chris 
 
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Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

2010-07-01 Thread Allison Manzino

Hi Sarah,

I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps but 
it's one of the options in the menus.

Allison

On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which time 
 they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them to a cd 
 but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do 
 this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm 
 singing to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Sound Flower?

2010-07-01 Thread Allison Manzino

Hi GF,

I think Soundflower routes the audio input from your mic in to system sounds. I 
also think it is responsible for Hijacking audio with Safari.

Allison

On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:18 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

 What is sound flower for? I have Audio Highjack pro and I was told that I 
 would need sound flower, I don't seam to need it for anything. what does it 
 do? Just wondering.
 
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Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

this is very funny how this thread has gotten so very philisophical.laughs
On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote:

 Respectfully .   Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive
 letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be
 the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a
 different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few
 seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb
 of mp3 files.
 
 
 Vic
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
 
 Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54 minutes
 or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows
 machine.
 
 there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah.
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
 
 When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive
 about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually
 making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. Copying
 a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a 1GB
 folder is almost instant.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
 another?
 
 When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If
 one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it
 take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and
 paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag
 and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is.
 When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost
 instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes,
 like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake
 alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things
 from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. 
 Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering,
 of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which
 takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be
 implemented in voiceover. 
 
 
 John
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 
 Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live
 without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually
 knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic
 feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS.
 
 
 As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do
 it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make
 bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do
 it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
 
 there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used
 to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os
 level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and
 is not likely to go awyay... 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Kaare.
 On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in 
 leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why
 would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM,
 Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move
 applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it.  What were Apple
 thinking of?
 
 Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of 
 scissors? (frown)
 
 Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override 
 this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck
 Reichel wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them
 when drag and drop  would be fixed in Snow Leopard.
 It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there
 attention.
 They said that they are working on it!
 Talk soon
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse
 in the past to drag and drop,

Re: Sound Flower?

I believe sf is so that one does not need to relaunch applications for AHP to 
highjack the audio I could be wrong though
On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:18 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

 What is sound flower for? I have Audio Highjack pro and I was told that I 
 would need sound flower, I don't seam to need it for anything. what does it 
 do? Just wondering.
 
 GF
 
 
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Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

I had never thought of that however realize that could be time 
consuming...unless you could do some sort of batch burning which I doubt you 
can.
On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Sarah,
 
 I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps but 
 it's one of the options in the menus.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which 
 time they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them to a 
 cd but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do 
 this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm 
 singing to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Sound Flower?


Hi GF, Allison, and Yuma,

I'll paste in some more description from an old post of mine to the  
Mac-Access list written two years ago on the subject of audio routing  
software.

begin quote
Subject: 	Audio Routing Software: Soundflower and Jack [was Re:  
Getting iTunes to use specific audio device.]


Date:   June 14, 2008

Yes, it is possible to configure iTunes to play to a different sound
output device (such as an alternative sound card).  What you need is
a software tool like Soundflower or JackPilot, that allows you to  
reroute

your audio connections for the purposes of either monitoring or
or redirecting output from one audio application to to another.

This kind of capability has been widely used by podcasters who need
to separate different audio inputs and outputs.

Here's an excerpt from an old descriptor release of Soundflower:

Cycling '74 originally developed Soundflower as a way to allow  
applications developed with its Max/MSP audio environment to process  
audio originating from other programs. However, it can be used for  
more general audio routing tasks patching either 2- or 16-channel data  
at 32-bit sample depth between any applications that support standard  
Core Audio driver selection. Soundflower can be selected as a default  
device in the Audio/MIDI Setup utility for programs (such as iTunes)  
that do not allow the selection of a specific output device. As a  
result, Soundflower has found widespread use in the advanced  
podcasting community.


Rogue Amoeba (maker of Audio Hijack Pro and Airfoil) distributes
Soundflower with its products, but you can separately get the latest
version (1.3.1) of Soundflower from  snipped

end quote

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 1, 2010, Allison Manzino wrote:


Hi GF,

I think Soundflower routes the audio input from your mic in to  
system sounds. I also think it is responsible for Hijacking audio  
with Safari.


Allison

On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:18 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

What is sound flower for? I have Audio Highjack pro and I was told  
that I would need sound flower, I don't seam to need it for  
anything. what does it do? Just wondering.


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list of accessible programs on the mac

2010-07-01 Thread DJ Nezumi

hi to all on the list.
i know that this may be a mission but i was wondering if a kind soul
would be able to put up a list of programs that are accessible with
voiceover and the mac?
the reason i aks this is that there maybe programs that i have not
heard of that may come in handy one day. an example would be
amidaeous.
what is ththis program exactly?
thanks for your time and probibly saint like patients
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Re: iPad keyboard dock and iPod Touch [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]


Hi Courtney,

Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod  
Touch. I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some  
posters who have been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for  
the iPhone 3GS. I'm not sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock  
extension cables, since that's the kind of item that may depend on  
whether they have enough space to stock it while carrying all the new  
iPads, iPhones, and their accessories.  If you want something like the  
Cable Jive dockXtender (weird spelling) that Geoff posted about on  
the viphone list for use with the Otterbox Defender cases, then my  
guess is that you'll have to go through the manufacturer's order page:

http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html
That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case  
-- as opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case --  
just not the Otterbox Defender.  Using the cable won't let you take  
advantage of the iPad keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod  
Touch on the base when docked.  There are a number of iPod Touch cases  
that allow you to slide a bottom portion of the case off to dock,  
though.  They include cases like the Griffin Wave and the Incase  
Slider.  On the other hand, using a dock extender cable will allow you  
to use the headset and mic cables that come with the iPod Touch to  
control your playback and use voice control, since you can still  
access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod Touch. This  
iPod Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits in the  
dock, unlike the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset  
jack along the top right side of the device, and so remains available  
even when the device is docked.  If I'm listening to audio from the  
iPod Touch through a headset, instead of through the iPod Touch  
speakers, I'll connect my headset to the mini-jack port in the support  
base of the iPad keyboard dock.  That won't allow me to control the  
volume and playback through the headset controls, but I can use the  
keyboard controls to rewind, play/pause, and fast forward, and I  
attach a volume control cable that you can get from Radio Shack to  
dial down the volume.  (I'm not sure the link will work, but the  
product is Gold-Plated Volume Control Cable for Stereo Headphones,  
Model: 42-2559, Catalog #: 42-2559, with current price of $8.99, which  
seems more than I paid.)  Web URL is:

http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102975
When I use my iPad, I simply use the headset controls directly, or the  
keyboard media controls for playback (F7, F8, and F9 positions for  
rewind, play/pause, advance) and volume control (F10, F11, and F12  
positions for mute,  decrease volume, increase volume), just as on the  
Macbook keyboard.  Since I'm more likely to use my iPad for extensive  
note taking an typing, this isn't an issue.  I don't really need to  
have all the media controls through the headset mic cable if I'm  
actively typing, and if I'm not typing large amounts of text I'll pull  
the iPod Touch off of the dock.  If you want more portability you  
might want to get the Apple Wireless Keyboard.  The action of the  
keyboards is the same: these are both the relatively flat, chiclet  
type keyboards used with the current generation Macbook (Pro) laptops.  
Each key is separated, the f and j keys have horizontal bars to  
distinguish them by touch, and the key action has the relatively short  
travel distance of current laptop keyboards.  The keyboard dock does  
give you a few more keys, such as the one to return to the home page,  
and the one to take you to the search page (first two keys in the top  
row, starting at the left).


HTH. Cheers,

Esther

On Jun 30, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote:


Hi,
I'm getting the Ipad keyboard dock this Friday to use with my Ipod  
Touch this Friday. Before I go to the Apple store, do they have the  
dock extention connector cable there, or will I have to wait an  
agonizingly long time (smiles)?

Courtney

On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote:

Thanks for that, but i really hope the Freedom i connex works as it  
is foldable so it would be easier to caryy around with me if I need  
to type a longer SMS or email.  Shame the Apple keyboard was not  
foldable.  Actually I love the keyboard my imac uses, much nicer  
then my laptop but that is way too big LOL

On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:30, Esther wrote:


Hi Chris,

I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod Touch, but here's a  
link to an article reporting use of the iPad keyboard dock with  
the iPhone 3GS at Slashgear:

http://www.slashgear.com/ios4-iphone-3gs-works-with-ipad-keyboard-dock-video-2290908/
There's an earlier post I wrote on iPad keyboard options that  
has a link to the Gearlog diary entry about this, and also links  
and excerpts to Dan Frakes' article evaluating both the iPad  
keyboard dock and the Apple Wireless Keyboard:

Re: iPad keyboard dock and iPod Touch [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]

Esther, knowing your such a wealth, a fountain of information, do you know how 
much of an impact there is on the battery of your iPod Touch or maybe even an 
iPhone if leaving bluetooth on with all the other stuff? I also think it would 
be nice if bluetooth could be set to non-discoverable once you have a device 
paired, but that may not have any affect on security or battery savings.

tnx,

On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Courtney,
 
 Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod Touch. 
 I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some posters who have 
 been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for the iPhone 3GS. I'm not 
 sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock extension cables, since that's 
 the kind of item that may depend on whether they have enough space to stock 
 it while carrying all the new iPads, iPhones, and their accessories.  If you 
 want something like the Cable Jive dockXtender (weird spelling) that Geoff 
 posted about on the viphone list for use with the Otterbox Defender cases, 
 then my guess is that you'll have to go through the manufacturer's order page:
 http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html
 That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case -- as 
 opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case -- just not the 
 Otterbox Defender.  Using the cable won't let you take advantage of the iPad 
 keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod Touch on the base when docked.  
 There are a number of iPod Touch cases that allow you to slide a bottom 
 portion of the case off to dock, though.  They include cases like the Griffin 
 Wave and the Incase Slider.  On the other hand, using a dock extender cable 
 will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come with the iPod 
 Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since you can still 
 access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod Touch. This iPod 
 Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits in the dock, unlike 
 the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset jack along the top 
 right side of the device, and so remains available even when the device is 
 docked.  If I'm listening to audio from the iPod Touch through a headset, 
 instead of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect my headset to the 
 mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard dock.  That won't 
 allow me to control the volume and playback through the headset controls, but 
 I can use the keyboard controls to rewind, play/pause, and fast forward, and 
 I attach a volume control cable that you can get from Radio Shack to dial 
 down the volume.  (I'm not sure the link will work, but the product is 
 Gold-Plated Volume Control Cable for Stereo Headphones, Model: 42-2559, 
 Catalog #: 42-2559, with current price of $8.99, which seems more than I 
 paid.)  Web URL is:
 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102975
 When I use my iPad, I simply use the headset controls directly, or the 
 keyboard media controls for playback (F7, F8, and F9 positions for rewind, 
 play/pause, advance) and volume control (F10, F11, and F12 positions for 
 mute,  decrease volume, increase volume), just as on the Macbook keyboard.  
 Since I'm more likely to use my iPad for extensive note taking an typing, 
 this isn't an issue.  I don't really need to have all the media controls 
 through the headset mic cable if I'm actively typing, and if I'm not typing 
 large amounts of text I'll pull the iPod Touch off of the dock.  If you want 
 more portability you might want to get the Apple Wireless Keyboard.  The 
 action of the keyboards is the same: these are both the relatively flat, 
 chiclet type keyboards used with the current generation Macbook (Pro) 
 laptops. Each key is separated, the f and j keys have horizontal bars to 
 distinguish them by touch, and the key action has the relatively short travel 
 distance of current laptop keyboards.  The keyboard dock does give you a few 
 more keys, such as the one to return to the home page, and the one to take 
 you to the search page (first two keys in the top row, starting at the left).
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I'm getting the Ipad keyboard dock this Friday to use with my Ipod Touch 
 this Friday. Before I go to the Apple store, do they have the dock extention 
 connector cable there, or will I have to wait an agonizingly long time 
 (smiles)?
 Courtney
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Thanks for that, but i really hope the Freedom i connex works as it is 
 foldable so it would be easier to caryy around with me if I need to type a 
 longer SMS or email.  Shame the Apple keyboard was not foldable.  Actually 
 I love the keyboard my imac uses, much nicer then my laptop but that is way 
 too big LOL
 On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:30, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod

Re: list of accessible programs on the mac

2010-07-01 Thread clarence griffin

I suggest you start there and do what the rest of us do, just look around and 
try different programs. I don't believe in spoon feeding. I will lead you to 
the water, but I will be damned if I am going to push your head down and make 
you drink. lol

GF


On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:00 PM, DJ Nezumi wrote:

 hi
 thanks for the website but as far as i know there isn't a list on the
 website that lists all the programs that are accessible.
 does anyone have any other suggestions that i could try?
 thanks
 Liam
 
 
 clarence griffin wrote:
 wow, what a job. you may want to try the  site.
 http://www.lioncourt.com
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:34 PM, DJ Nezumi wrote:
 
 hi to all on the list.
 i know that this may be a mission but i was wondering if a kind soul
 would be able to put up a list of programs that are accessible with
 voiceover and the mac?
 the reason i aks this is that there maybe programs that i have not
 heard of that may come in handy one day. an example would be
 amidaeous.
 what is ththis program exactly?
 thanks for your time and probibly saint like patients
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Re: list of accessible programs on the mac

I concur with gf's assessment, and qualification of his statement is not 
necessary :p

git-r-done
On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:10 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

 I suggest you start there and do what the rest of us do, just look around and 
 try different programs. I don't believe in spoon feeding. I will lead you to 
 the water, but I will be damned if I am going to push your head down and make 
 you drink. lol
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 5:00 PM, DJ Nezumi wrote:
 
 hi
 thanks for the website but as far as i know there isn't a list on the
 website that lists all the programs that are accessible.
 does anyone have any other suggestions that i could try?
 thanks
 Liam
 
 
 clarence griffin wrote:
 wow, what a job. you may want to try the  site.
 http://www.lioncourt.com
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:34 PM, DJ Nezumi wrote:
 
 hi to all on the list.
 i know that this may be a mission but i was wondering if a kind soul
 would be able to put up a list of programs that are accessible with
 voiceover and the mac?
 the reason i aks this is that there maybe programs that i have not
 heard of that may come in handy one day. an example would be
 amidaeous.
 what is ththis program exactly?
 thanks for your time and probibly saint like patients
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Re: Sound Flower?

2010-07-01 Thread clarence griffin

ah, like skype?
I will give that a try. thanks.

GF


On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:28 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

 I believe sf is so that one does not need to relaunch applications for AHP to 
 highjack the audio I could be wrong though
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:18 PM, clarence griffin wrote:
 
 What is sound flower for? I have Audio Highjack pro and I was told that I 
 would need sound flower, I don't seam to need it for anything. what does it 
 do? Just wondering.
 
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Re: iPad keyboard dock and iPod Touch [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]

Hi,
The thing is I plan to take mine out of the case, do I still need the dock 
extender? 
Thanks so much for the helpful info.
Courtney
On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Courtney,
 
 Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod Touch. 
 I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some posters who have 
 been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for the iPhone 3GS. I'm not 
 sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock extension cables, since that's 
 the kind of item that may depend on whether they have enough space to stock 
 it while carrying all the new iPads, iPhones, and their accessories.  If you 
 want something like the Cable Jive dockXtender (weird spelling) that Geoff 
 posted about on the viphone list for use with the Otterbox Defender cases, 
 then my guess is that you'll have to go through the manufacturer's order page:
 http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html
 That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case -- as 
 opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case -- just not the 
 Otterbox Defender.  Using the cable won't let you take advantage of the iPad 
 keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod Touch on the base when docked.  
 There are a number of iPod Touch cases that allow you to slide a bottom 
 portion of the case off to dock, though.  They include cases like the Griffin 
 Wave and the Incase Slider.  On the other hand, using a dock extender cable 
 will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come with the iPod 
 Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since you can still 
 access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod Touch. This iPod 
 Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits in the dock, unlike 
 the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset jack along the top 
 right side of the device, and so remains available even when the device is 
 docked.  If I'm listening to audio from the iPod Touch through a headset, 
 instead of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect my headset to the 
 mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard dock.  That won't 
 allow me to control the volume and playback through the headset controls, but 
 I can use the keyboard controls to rewind, play/pause, and fast forward, and 
 I attach a volume control cable that you can get from Radio Shack to dial 
 down the volume.  (I'm not sure the link will work, but the product is 
 Gold-Plated Volume Control Cable for Stereo Headphones, Model: 42-2559, 
 Catalog #: 42-2559, with current price of $8.99, which seems more than I 
 paid.)  Web URL is:
 http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2102975
 When I use my iPad, I simply use the headset controls directly, or the 
 keyboard media controls for playback (F7, F8, and F9 positions for rewind, 
 play/pause, advance) and volume control (F10, F11, and F12 positions for 
 mute,  decrease volume, increase volume), just as on the Macbook keyboard.  
 Since I'm more likely to use my iPad for extensive note taking an typing, 
 this isn't an issue.  I don't really need to have all the media controls 
 through the headset mic cable if I'm actively typing, and if I'm not typing 
 large amounts of text I'll pull the iPod Touch off of the dock.  If you want 
 more portability you might want to get the Apple Wireless Keyboard.  The 
 action of the keyboards is the same: these are both the relatively flat, 
 chiclet type keyboards used with the current generation Macbook (Pro) 
 laptops. Each key is separated, the f and j keys have horizontal bars to 
 distinguish them by touch, and the key action has the relatively short travel 
 distance of current laptop keyboards.  The keyboard dock does give you a few 
 more keys, such as the one to return to the home page, and the one to take 
 you to the search page (first two keys in the top row, starting at the left).
 
 HTH. Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I'm getting the Ipad keyboard dock this Friday to use with my Ipod Touch 
 this Friday. Before I go to the Apple store, do they have the dock extention 
 connector cable there, or will I have to wait an agonizingly long time 
 (smiles)?
 Courtney
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Thanks for that, but i really hope the Freedom i connex works as it is 
 foldable so it would be easier to caryy around with me if I need to type a 
 longer SMS or email.  Shame the Apple keyboard was not foldable.  Actually 
 I love the keyboard my imac uses, much nicer then my laptop but that is way 
 too big LOL
 On 30 Jun 2010, at 18:30, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 
 I'm using the iPad keyboard dock with my iPod Touch, but here's a link to 
 an article reporting use of the iPad keyboard dock with the iPhone 3GS at 
 Slashgear:
 http://www.slashgear.com/ios4-iphone-3gs-works-with-ipad-keyboard-dock-video-2290908/
 There's an earlier post I wrote on iPad keyboard options

Re: list of accessible programs on the mac

Some of the programs are a bit out of datebut that is a good site to start off 
with.

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:13 PM, clarence griffin wrote:

 wow, what a job. you may want to try the  site.
 http://www.lioncourt.com
 
 GF
 
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:34 PM, DJ Nezumi wrote:
 
 hi to all on the list.
 i know that this may be a mission but i was wondering if a kind soul
 would be able to put up a list of programs that are accessible with
 voiceover and the mac?
 the reason i aks this is that there maybe programs that i have not
 heard of that may come in handy one day. an example would be
 amidaeous.
 what is ththis program exactly?
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Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

but will the cd play aac files? I though ds play cda files? I need this to play 
in a regular new or old cd player. I don't know what technology the hotel or 
staff have.

S
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 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which time 
 they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them to a cd 
 but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do 
 this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm 
 singing to them in a few days.
 
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Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

Oh duh! I forgot about that!

I'll try it.

Thanks.
On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:12 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:

 Hi Sarah,
 
 I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps but 
 it's one of the options in the menus.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which 
 time they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them to a 
 cd but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do 
 this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm 
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 Thanks.
 
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Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

yeah I was. I'll take that in to consideraton and try it when I get th echance.

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Tinker Tweak wrote:

 Respectfully .   Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive
 letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be
 the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a
 different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few
 seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb
 of mp3 files.
 
 
 Vic
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
 
 Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54 minutes
 or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows
 machine.
 
 there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah.
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
 
 When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive
 about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually
 making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy. Copying
 a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a 1GB
 folder is almost instant.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
 another?
 
 When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow? If
 one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it
 take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and
 paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag
 and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is.
 When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost
 instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes,
 like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time sake
 alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things
 from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. 
 Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering,
 of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer, which
 takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would be
 implemented in voiceover. 
 
 
 John
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 
 Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live
 without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually
 knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic
 feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS.
 
 
 As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do
 it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make
 bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do
 it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard wrote:
 
 there used to be, an probably still is an automator work flow that used
 to simulate drag, drop and remove. This unavailability of cut at the os
 level has probably saved a number of tech support reps irate phonecalls and
 is not likely to go awyay... 
 
 Cheers,
 
 Kaare.
 On 2010-06-30, at 3:30 AM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 this is strange, I think someone on here said they used it in 
 leopard. I wonder if there is a setting that needs to be changed why
 would it work on one machine and not another On Jun 29, 2010, at 8:37 PM,
 Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 How odd. I've used the copy and paste commands numerous times to move
 applications from the downloads folder to the apps folder.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:28 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 Such a basic function, even Win-doze can do it.  What were Apple
 thinking of?
 
 Do they not think we can be trusted with a virtual pair of 
 scissors? (frown)
 
 Apart from scripts, I wonder if there are any hacks to override 
 this. G-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r-r- On 30 Jun 2010, at 01:18, Chuck
 Reichel wrote:
 
 Hi Chris,
 I have Apple care on my mac pro Quad core and have been asking them
 when drag and drop  would be fixed in Snow Leopard.
 It works on my g5 box with Leopard thats why I brought it to there
 attention.
 They said that they are working on it!
 Talk soon
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
 
 I had never noticed this problem before as I just used the mouse
 in the past to drag and

Re: iPad keyboard dock and iPod Touch [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]


Hi Courtney and Scott,

I'll answer both your questions here.

If you take your iPod Touch out of the case (or slip off the bottom of  
the case) to dock it on the iPad keyboard dock, then you don't need a  
dock extender to use it with the keyboard.  The only trade-off for you  
is that you won't be able to plug in a headset into the headset jack,  
since the bottom of the iPod Touch sits against the dock support.   
That means that you won't be able to use the controls on the headset  
with mic that came with your iPod Touch to control volume, track  
navigation, and do voice control if you want to use a headset instead  
of using the iPod Touch speaker.  If you do plug in a headset (or good  
audio speakers), you have to do it through the mini-jack in the base  
of the iPad keyboard dock.  Although this supplies quite good audio,  
there's no volume control, and I find it a bit loud.  That's why I  
attach a control cable from Radio Shack in between.  This is just a  
short cable that plugs in between the mini-jack and my headset with  
mic, so I can dial down the maximum volume that passes to the headset  
on a geared wheel.  You can only control playback, volume, etc. from a  
headset if it's plugged directly into the headset jack of your iDevice.


Someone who wanted to use the iPad keyboard dock with an iPhone 4  
might need or prefer to use a dock extender, however.


Scott asked:

do you know how much of an impact there is on the battery of your  
iPod Touch or maybe even an iPhone if leaving bluetooth on with all  
the other stuff? I also think it would be nice if bluetooth could be  
set to non-discoverable once you have a device paired, but that may  
not have any affect on security or battery savings.


I haven't had a lot of experience with Bluetooth devices and the iPod  
Touch.  I have found that if the device is paired, I can go to the  
Setting menu to check the device status, press the right side switch  
on the Apple Wireless Keyboard (the round circle on the side opposite  
the circle with a notch that allows you to open the device and load/ 
unload batteries), and turn pairing off (as well as turn the Wireless  
Keyboard off).  Then, when I turn my Wireless Keyboard on and turn  
Bluetooth on for the iPod Touch, the device pretty much automatically  
pairs (although I do double tap the keyboard among the discovered  
devices just to be sure).


HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On Jul 1, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote:


Hi,
The thing is I plan to take mine out of the case, do I still need  
the dock extender?

Thanks so much for the helpful info.
Courtney
On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote:


Hi Courtney,

Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod  
Touch. I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some  
posters who have been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock  
for the iPhone 3GS. I'm not sure whether the Apple Store will carry  
dock extension cables, since that's the kind of item that may  
depend on whether they have enough space to stock it while carrying  
all the new iPads, iPhones, and their accessories.  If you want  
something like the Cable Jive dockXtender (weird spelling) that  
Geoff posted about on the viphone list for use with the Otterbox  
Defender cases, then my guess is that you'll have to go through the  
manufacturer's order page:

http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html
That recently released dock extender cable should work for every  
case -- as opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every  
case -- just not the Otterbox Defender.  Using the cable won't let  
you take advantage of the iPad keyboard dock's ability to support  
the iPod Touch on the base when docked.  There are a number of iPod  
Touch cases that allow you to slide a bottom portion of the case  
off to dock, though.  They include cases like the Griffin Wave and  
the Incase Slider.  On the other hand, using a dock extender cable  
will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come with the  
iPod Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since  
you can still access the headset jack at the bottom right of the  
iPod Touch. This iPod Touch headset jack is covered up when the  
iPod Touch sits in the dock, unlike the case for the iPhone 3GS and  
iPad where the headset jack along the top right side of the device,  
and so remains available even when the device is docked.  If I'm  
listening to audio from the iPod Touch through a headset, instead  
of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect my headset to the  
mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard dock.  That  
won't allow me to control the volume and playback through the  
headset controls, but I can use the keyboard controls to rewind,  
play/pause, and fast forward, and I attach a volume control cable  
that you can get from Radio Shack to dial down the volume.  (I'm  
not sure the link will work, but the product is Gold-Plated Volume

Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

Ok I created a playlist but don't have the other tracks yet. they are all wav 
or will be soon. lol! but I'm very susprised I don't see a disk at once option. 
Should thatnot be standard?

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

 I had never thought of that however realize that could be time 
 consuming...unless you could do some sort of batch burning which I doubt you 
 can.
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps but 
 it's one of the options in the menus.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which 
 time they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them to 
 a cd but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do 
 this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm 
 singing to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
 S
 
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Dragdropkeyboard support

2010-07-01 Thread Tinker Tweak

Yes I do think it is getting funny but the laugh is on us who cannot use an
important feature. 

I really believe all that is needed for cut and paste using just the
keyboard is already there in the OS since drag and drop for the visual user
is really cut and paste only with another name and mouse driven.

I don't know whether to cry or laugh when somebody comes up saying that cut
and paste is very dangerous because drag and drop has the same function or
end result anyway only with a different way of doing the same  and minus the
keyboard support.

Why not us Mac blind users just petition Apple to put a keyboard shortcut
for their drag and drop? Maybe then we could do away with Windows all
together. Smile.

I raised a similar issue when I was a new Mac user and got my head chewed
off for the effort. LOL! I sincerely hope we could be objective and not be
counterproductively zealots for one particular thing or another. We could
help each other with our different needs. I don't have to be in disagreement
just because a particular feature is not important to me. If it is not going
to harm me and it could be useful to someone else, then by all means I will
support you brother! Grin.

Vic


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:28 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?

this is very funny how this thread has gotten so very
philisophical.laughs
On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote:

 Respectfully .   Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive
 letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be
 the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a
 different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few
 seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb
 of mp3 files.
 
 
 Vic
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
another?
 
 Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54
minutes
 or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows
 machine.
 
 there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah.
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
 
 When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive
 about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually
 making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy.
Copying
 a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a
1GB
 folder is almost instant.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
 another?
 
 When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow?
If
 one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it
 take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and
 paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag
 and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is.
 When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost
 instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes,
 like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time
sake
 alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things
 from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. 
 Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering,
 of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer,
which
 takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would
be
 implemented in voiceover. 
 
 
 John
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 
 Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live
 without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac tutorials. So I actually
 knew about that one going in. I figure if I wasn't happy with a basic
 feature of an OS, I wouldn't use the OS.
 
 
 As for dragging and dropping, it might be a good idea to know how to do
 it, but probably in the same way that it's a good idea to know how to make
 bricks. You just might use it someday, but if there's a simpler way to do
 it, chances are you'll mostly use that instead.
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 3:46 AM, Kaare Dehard

Re: Python

2010-07-01 Thread Yvonne Thomson


On 01/07/2010, at 7:25 PM, Larry Skutchan wrote:

 You can write them either for Linux or the Mac GUI. I would sure love to see 
 some of you talented coders at work on some great Mac applications.
 I am still new to the Mac, but it looks like a pretty easy job to use wx 
 widgets and Python. You still need a good editor to write these. So far, I'm 
 fairly happy with Bean and, to some degree, Dashcode. Does anyone know of 
 some better ones that are accessible? I know the editor in Eclipse is not 
 useable as far as I can tell, but the rest of the system is and you can still 
 use external editors. 

What I'm using is Macvim, which is great if you're not afraid to do some 
learning first. Another alternative would be subethaEdit or Fraise, which seems 
to be a successor to smultron.

With python in particular, you want to be sure that the editor has good indent 
support, and if possible knows about python and can autoindent for you. 

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ripping cds

2010-07-01 Thread denise avant

Hello all,

I've used windows media player for quite sometime to rip cds. But now that
I'm switching to the mac, I'm wondering what is the equivalent program to do
that on the mac side.

Also, I'm going to listen to the stream of the nfb convention. Again, I'd
normally use windows media player. Is itunes or some other program best on
the apple side of things.

Thanks.

 

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Re: Pages09

2010-07-01 Thread Barry Hadder

Howdy Anne,

As much as I would like to, I really can't lay claim to any brilliance.  My 
secret is nothing more the the Pages help.  However, thanks for your kind 
words.  Glad I was able to pass something along that was helpful.
 
On Jun 29, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:

 Barry,
 
 Thank you so much for this explanation. You're brilliant! How do you do it. 
 I've spent hours on Pages and didn't come up with that.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:59 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
 
 Just select the text to convert and choose format  table  convert text to 
 table.  
 
 After you do this, you can move the insertion point over the table and vo 
 will announce hi lighted.  That is the only indication that anything is 
 there.  However, you can actual read the table by going into the inspector, 
 selecting the rap radio button, and selecting floating in the object 
 placement radio group.
 
 On Jun 29, 2010, at 5:12 AM, Paul wrote:
 
 Hello Barry. I assume that I can create a table with tabs as the
 column separator and carriage returns as row separators and then
 convert the table. I'm familiar with how to do this in Microsoft word.
 Can you provide some step by step procedures?
 
 Thanks so much.
 
 On Jun 28, 12:16 pm, Barry Hadder bhad...@gmail.com wrote:
 I want to also point out that vo can read floating tables and most other 
 objects with little or no difficulty.  When they are floating, they are 
 found in the lay-out area.  Also, you can convert an in-line table to text 
 and back again.  A text table has tabs as column seporators and new-line 
 charictors as rows.  You can also create a table in this way and convert 
 it to an in-line table.
 
 On Jun 28, 2010, at 5:37 AM, Anne Robertson wrote:
 
 
 
 Hello Paul,
 
 On Jun 27, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Paul wrote:
 I like to create agendas for meetings. In addition, I like
 to write legal documents with outlined numbering like 1. 1.1 1.1.1 2.0
 2.1 2.2. etc.
 Pages will take care of paragraph numbering of that kind.
 
 I also like to use tables in my documents and to write
 letters and memos.
 Tables are tricky. You have to use Numbers to create them if you can't 
 see and have to use VoiceOver. VoiceOver can't see tables in Pages 
 documents. However, if there's an existing table in a Pages document, you 
 can copy it into a Numbers document and read it, modify it, etc there, 
 then copy it back again. Messy, but doable.
 
 Finally, I like to create address lists that I can
 translate into
 Braille. In these situations I would like to use mail merge
 facilities.
 Sorry. I haven't done this myself but it should be possible. I have to 
 spend time this summer on creating a user guide for VO users of iWork09.
 
 Finally, are their more templates available for pages09
 that are not in the template chooser?
 I don't think so, but you can create your own.
 
 Do you also use numbers?
 Yes, but I haven't done anything complex with it.
 
 I've also used Keynote when translating PowerPoint documents.
 
 I would say that iWork09 is 95% accessible with VoiceOver.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Anne
 
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help setting up apple mail

2010-07-01 Thread Josh

Hello

ok my wife is doe with her music lessons she is taking online so now
I'm at my macbook pro with snow leopard. If someone could give me a
call at 610-373-1245 or send me an email at jkenn...@gmail.com I am in
eastern standard time. Jody told me how to do it but we got talking
about notetakers and other stuff and apparently I forgot. I got as far
as telling apple mail I have a pop account and that's as far as I got
basically. When I told it to bring all accounts online then to get
mail with command shift n, I hear a new mail sound but no messages are
coming in. The mac is up and running so give me a call or shoot an
email, I can check my mail in safari.

My phone number is 610-373-1245 and my email is jkenn...@gmail.com  Josh

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Re: iPad keyboard dock and iPod Touch [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]

Hi,
Thanks so much, I appreciate it. Actually, as a matter of fact, I don't use the 
earbuds that came with it because they hurt so much. But I do use noise 
cancelling over the ear headphones, would they fit in the mini jack in the Ipad 
dock?
Thanks so much,
Courtney
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Courtney and Scott,
 
 I'll answer both your questions here.
 
 If you take your iPod Touch out of the case (or slip off the bottom of the 
 case) to dock it on the iPad keyboard dock, then you don't need a dock 
 extender to use it with the keyboard.  The only trade-off for you is that you 
 won't be able to plug in a headset into the headset jack, since the bottom of 
 the iPod Touch sits against the dock support.  That means that you won't be 
 able to use the controls on the headset with mic that came with your iPod 
 Touch to control volume, track navigation, and do voice control if you want 
 to use a headset instead of using the iPod Touch speaker.  If you do plug in 
 a headset (or good audio speakers), you have to do it through the mini-jack 
 in the base of the iPad keyboard dock.  Although this supplies quite good 
 audio, there's no volume control, and I find it a bit loud.  That's why I 
 attach a control cable from Radio Shack in between.  This is just a short 
 cable that plugs in between the mini-jack and my headset with mic, so I can 
 dial down the maximum volume that passes to the headset on a geared wheel.  
 You can only control playback, volume, etc. from a headset if it's plugged 
 directly into the headset jack of your iDevice.
 
 Someone who wanted to use the iPad keyboard dock with an iPhone 4 might need 
 or prefer to use a dock extender, however.
 
 Scott asked:
 
 do you know how much of an impact there is on the battery of your iPod Touch 
 or maybe even an iPhone if leaving bluetooth on with all the other stuff? I 
 also think it would be nice if bluetooth could be set to non-discoverable 
 once you have a device paired, but that may not have any affect on security 
 or battery savings.
 
 I haven't had a lot of experience with Bluetooth devices and the iPod Touch.  
 I have found that if the device is paired, I can go to the Setting menu to 
 check the device status, press the right side switch on the Apple Wireless 
 Keyboard (the round circle on the side opposite the circle with a notch that 
 allows you to open the device and load/unload batteries), and turn pairing 
 off (as well as turn the Wireless Keyboard off).  Then, when I turn my 
 Wireless Keyboard on and turn Bluetooth on for the iPod Touch, the device 
 pretty much automatically pairs (although I do double tap the keyboard among 
 the discovered devices just to be sure).
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 The thing is I plan to take mine out of the case, do I still need the dock 
 extender?
 Thanks so much for the helpful info.
 Courtney
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Courtney,
 
 Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod Touch. 
 I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some posters who 
 have been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for the iPhone 3GS. 
 I'm not sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock extension cables, 
 since that's the kind of item that may depend on whether they have enough 
 space to stock it while carrying all the new iPads, iPhones, and their 
 accessories.  If you want something like the Cable Jive dockXtender 
 (weird spelling) that Geoff posted about on the viphone list for use with 
 the Otterbox Defender cases, then my guess is that you'll have to go 
 through the manufacturer's order page:
 http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html
 That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case -- as 
 opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case -- just not 
 the Otterbox Defender.  Using the cable won't let you take advantage of the 
 iPad keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod Touch on the base when 
 docked.  There are a number of iPod Touch cases that allow you to slide a 
 bottom portion of the case off to dock, though.  They include cases like 
 the Griffin Wave and the Incase Slider.  On the other hand, using a dock 
 extender cable will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come 
 with the iPod Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since 
 you can still access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod 
 Touch. This iPod Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits 
 in the dock, unlike the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset 
 jack along the top right side of the device, and so remains available even 
 when the device is docked.  If I'm listening to audio from the iPod Touch 
 through a headset, instead of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect 
 my headset to the mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard 
 dock.  That won't allow

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2010-07-01 Thread Sarai D. Bucciarelli

All:
My Mac has come back from the shop. They repaired the case, the board,
reinstalled the OS due to a problem freezing. This is according to the
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Re: ripping cds

2010-07-01 Thread Carolyn

Denise:
Itunes will let you rip cd's and also work with your stream.  I actually 
preferred it over wmp when I was using my Dell for everything.  (even over 
Winamp which is the sweetheart program for lots of folks.  Give iTunes a try.

Carolyn
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 Hello all,
 I’ve used windows media player for quite sometime to rip cds. But now that 
 I’m switching to the mac, I’m wondering what is the equivalent program to do 
 that on the mac side.
 Also, I’m going to listen to the stream of the nfb convention. Again, I’d 
 normally use windows media player. Is itunes or some other program best on 
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Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

Hi,
Don't you want to make an audio CD? If that's the case, they should all play on 
a standard CD player. If they're wav, they should compress to standard audio. 
Unless you're making a data CD, which unfortunately CD players that play those 
are a little harder to find. If you are planning to make a data CD, there's no 
disc at once option in Itunes.
Good luck and hope this helps,
Courtney
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 Ok I created a playlist but don't have the other tracks yet. they are all wav 
 or will be soon. lol! but I'm very susprised I don't see a disk at once 
 option. Should thatnot be standard?
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 I had never thought of that however realize that could be time 
 consuming...unless you could do some sort of batch burning which I doubt you 
 can.
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps 
 but it's one of the options in the menus.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which 
 time they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them to 
 a cd but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do 
 this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm 
 singing to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: ripping cds

Hi,
Itunes is the equivalent and you can set it to rip Mp3's instead of the Apple 
format known as M4a's. Maybe somebody can explain it better than me. But 
there's also a CD ripping called Max. Another one, I just discovered it, it's 
called N.Mp3 ripper. All three of those programs are quite accessible.
Hth,
Courtney

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 Hello all,
 I’ve used windows media player for quite sometime to rip cds. But now that 
 I’m switching to the mac, I’m wondering what is the equivalent program to do 
 that on the mac side.
 Also, I’m going to listen to the stream of the nfb convention. Again, I’d 
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Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

I have the audio cd thing checked but still did not see the disk at once unless 
I missed it.

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 Don't you want to make an audio CD? If that's the case, they should all play 
 on a standard CD player. If they're wav, they should compress to standard 
 audio. Unless you're making a data CD, which unfortunately CD players that 
 play those are a little harder to find. If you are planning to make a data 
 CD, there's no disc at once option in Itunes.
 Good luck and hope this helps,
 Courtney
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Ok I created a playlist but don't have the other tracks yet. they are all 
 wav or will be soon. lol! but I'm very susprised I don't see a disk at once 
 option. Should thatnot be standard?
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 I had never thought of that however realize that could be time 
 consuming...unless you could do some sort of batch burning which I doubt 
 you can.
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps 
 but it's one of the options in the menus.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which 
 time they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them 
 to a cd but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn 
 them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I do 
 this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as I'm 
 singing to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Hi,
You shouldn't see the Disc at once thing. it does it automatically.
Courtney
On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 I have the audio cd thing checked but still did not see the disk at once 
 unless I missed it.
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Don't you want to make an audio CD? If that's the case, they should all play 
 on a standard CD player. If they're wav, they should compress to standard 
 audio. Unless you're making a data CD, which unfortunately CD players that 
 play those are a little harder to find. If you are planning to make a data 
 CD, there's no disc at once option in Itunes.
 Good luck and hope this helps,
 Courtney
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Ok I created a playlist but don't have the other tracks yet. they are all 
 wav or will be soon. lol! but I'm very susprised I don't see a disk at once 
 option. Should thatnot be standard?
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 I had never thought of that however realize that could be time 
 consuming...unless you could do some sort of batch burning which I doubt 
 you can.
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps 
 but it's one of the options in the menus.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at which 
 time they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and burn them 
 to a cd but first you need to add them to a playlist then you can burn 
 them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I 
 do this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd as 
 I'm singing to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: burning a cd in mac os10.6.4

Oh good! that's good to know.

S
On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

 Hi,
 You shouldn't see the Disc at once thing. it does it automatically.
 Courtney
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:36 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 I have the audio cd thing checked but still did not see the disk at once 
 unless I missed it.
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Don't you want to make an audio CD? If that's the case, they should all 
 play on a standard CD player. If they're wav, they should compress to 
 standard audio. Unless you're making a data CD, which unfortunately CD 
 players that play those are a little harder to find. If you are planning to 
 make a data CD, there's no disc at once option in Itunes.
 Good luck and hope this helps,
 Courtney
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:32 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Ok I created a playlist but don't have the other tracks yet. they are all 
 wav or will be soon. lol! but I'm very susprised I don't see a disk at 
 once option. Should thatnot be standard?
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 12:30 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 I had never thought of that however realize that could be time 
 consuming...unless you could do some sort of batch burning which I doubt 
 you can.
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Allison Manzino wrote:
 
 Hi Sarah,
 
 I think you can also burn to CD from Amadeus. I don't know if that helps 
 but it's one of the options in the menus.
 
 Allison
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 if itunes will accept them you need to add them to your library at 
 which time they'll be converted to AAC, then you need to select and 
 burn them to a cd but first you need to add them to a playlist then you 
 can burn them
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
 
 Hello all. I have a set of wav files I need to burn to a cd. How do I 
 do this in mac os10.6? I am gong o ut of town and i need these on cd 
 as I'm singing to them in a few days.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: iPad keyboard dock and iPod Touch [was Re: What keyboard shortcuts for external keyboards used with the iPhone under iOS4? ]

Thanks Esther. I guess now that I have my keyboard pared, I will just have to 
try and see what affect on battery life there is.

On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:12 PM, Esther wrote:

 Hi Courtney and Scott,
 
 I'll answer both your questions here.
 
 If you take your iPod Touch out of the case (or slip off the bottom of the 
 case) to dock it on the iPad keyboard dock, then you don't need a dock 
 extender to use it with the keyboard.  The only trade-off for you is that you 
 won't be able to plug in a headset into the headset jack, since the bottom of 
 the iPod Touch sits against the dock support.  That means that you won't be 
 able to use the controls on the headset with mic that came with your iPod 
 Touch to control volume, track navigation, and do voice control if you want 
 to use a headset instead of using the iPod Touch speaker.  If you do plug in 
 a headset (or good audio speakers), you have to do it through the mini-jack 
 in the base of the iPad keyboard dock.  Although this supplies quite good 
 audio, there's no volume control, and I find it a bit loud.  That's why I 
 attach a control cable from Radio Shack in between.  This is just a short 
 cable that plugs in between the mini-jack and my headset with mic, so I can 
 dial down the maximum volume that passes to the headset on a geared wheel.  
 You can only control playback, volume, etc. from a headset if it's plugged 
 directly into the headset jack of your iDevice.
 
 Someone who wanted to use the iPad keyboard dock with an iPhone 4 might need 
 or prefer to use a dock extender, however.
 
 Scott asked:
 
 do you know how much of an impact there is on the battery of your iPod Touch 
 or maybe even an iPhone if leaving bluetooth on with all the other stuff? I 
 also think it would be nice if bluetooth could be set to non-discoverable 
 once you have a device paired, but that may not have any affect on security 
 or battery savings.
 
 I haven't had a lot of experience with Bluetooth devices and the iPod Touch.  
 I have found that if the device is paired, I can go to the Setting menu to 
 check the device status, press the right side switch on the Apple Wireless 
 Keyboard (the round circle on the side opposite the circle with a notch that 
 allows you to open the device and load/unload batteries), and turn pairing 
 off (as well as turn the Wireless Keyboard off).  Then, when I turn my 
 Wireless Keyboard on and turn Bluetooth on for the iPod Touch, the device 
 pretty much automatically pairs (although I do double tap the keyboard among 
 the discovered devices just to be sure).
 
 HTH.  Cheers,
 
 Esther
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, Courtney Curran wrote:
 
 Hi,
 The thing is I plan to take mine out of the case, do I still need the dock 
 extender?
 Thanks so much for the helpful info.
 Courtney
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Esther wrote:
 
 Hi Courtney,
 
 Congrats on your plans to get a keyboard dock to use with your iPod Touch. 
 I'll cc this post to the viphone list, since there are some posters who 
 have been interested in using the iPad keyboard dock for the iPhone 3GS. 
 I'm not sure whether the Apple Store will carry dock extension cables, 
 since that's the kind of item that may depend on whether they have enough 
 space to stock it while carrying all the new iPads, iPhones, and their 
 accessories.  If you want something like the Cable Jive dockXtender 
 (weird spelling) that Geoff posted about on the viphone list for use with 
 the Otterbox Defender cases, then my guess is that you'll have to go 
 through the manufacturer's order page:
 http://www.cablejive.com/products/dockXtender.html
 That recently released dock extender cable should work for every case -- as 
 opposed to a lot of cables that worked for nearly every case -- just not 
 the Otterbox Defender.  Using the cable won't let you take advantage of the 
 iPad keyboard dock's ability to support the iPod Touch on the base when 
 docked.  There are a number of iPod Touch cases that allow you to slide a 
 bottom portion of the case off to dock, though.  They include cases like 
 the Griffin Wave and the Incase Slider.  On the other hand, using a dock 
 extender cable will allow you to use the headset and mic cables that come 
 with the iPod Touch to control your playback and use voice control, since 
 you can still access the headset jack at the bottom right of the iPod 
 Touch. This iPod Touch headset jack is covered up when the iPod Touch sits 
 in the dock, unlike the case for the iPhone 3GS and iPad where the headset 
 jack along the top right side of the device, and so remains available even 
 when the device is docked.  If I'm listening to audio from the iPod Touch 
 through a headset, instead of through the iPod Touch speakers, I'll connect 
 my headset to the mini-jack port in the support base of the iPad keyboard 
 dock.  That won't allow me to control the volume and playback through the 
 headset controls, but I can use the keyboard controls to rewind, 
 play/pause, and fast

Test Intro

This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post to 
the list.

If so, WHEW!  I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail.

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Re: help setting up apple mail

2010-07-01 Thread Charlie Doremus

The last time I looked, reading, PA is located in the eastern daylight time 
zone in July standard time begins in November.

Sent from the iPad I wish I had

On 01/07/2010, at 1:13 PM, Josh jkenn...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello
 
 ok my wife is doe with her music lessons she is taking online so now
 I'm at my macbook pro with snow leopard. If someone could give me a
 call at 610-373-1245 or send me an email at jkenn...@gmail.com I am in
 eastern standard time. Jody told me how to do it but we got talking
 about notetakers and other stuff and apparently I forgot. I got as far
 as telling apple mail I have a pop account and that's as far as I got
 basically. When I told it to bring all accounts online then to get
 mail with command shift n, I hear a new mail sound but no messages are
 coming in. The mac is up and running so give me a call or shoot an
 email, I can check my mail in safari.
 
 My phone number is 610-373-1245 and my email is jkenn...@gmail.com  Josh
 
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Re: Dragdropkeyboard support

well you know like I said vo does have the control option command shift space 
command for mouse down and mouse up, however it doesn't seem to stick which was 
my original issue I had but oh well. but now if someone enabled the 
announcement of items under the mouse thing and then used the mouse, I suppose 
you could drag that way but even that wasn't too successful for me
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote:

 Yes I do think it is getting funny but the laugh is on us who cannot use an
 important feature. 
 
 I really believe all that is needed for cut and paste using just the
 keyboard is already there in the OS since drag and drop for the visual user
 is really cut and paste only with another name and mouse driven.
 
 I don't know whether to cry or laugh when somebody comes up saying that cut
 and paste is very dangerous because drag and drop has the same function or
 end result anyway only with a different way of doing the same  and minus the
 keyboard support.
 
 Why not us Mac blind users just petition Apple to put a keyboard shortcut
 for their drag and drop? Maybe then we could do away with Windows all
 together. Smile.
 
 I raised a similar issue when I was a new Mac user and got my head chewed
 off for the effort. LOL! I sincerely hope we could be objective and not be
 counterproductively zealots for one particular thing or another. We could
 help each other with our different needs. I don't have to be in disagreement
 just because a particular feature is not important to me. If it is not going
 to harm me and it could be useful to someone else, then by all means I will
 support you brother! Grin.
 
 Vic
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cody Hurst
 Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 3:28 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to another?
 
 this is very funny how this thread has gotten so very
 philisophical.laughs
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 2:13 PM, Tinker Tweak wrote:
 
 Respectfully .   Maybe you were moving files or folders from one drive
 letter to another. So if that were the case, then the time to move will be
 the same as in copying. But when you only move files and folders to a
 different location but within the same drive, then it will only take a few
 seconds. I just verifyed this using windows 7 andwindows xp moving 13.7 gb
 of mp3 files.
 
 
 Vic
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sarah Alawami
 Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:14 PM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
 another?
 
 Not in my case. I moved 4 gigs of stuff and it took almosst 3 to 54
 minutes
 or there abouts to do it. I was timing it. and this was on a windows
 machine.
 
 there might be a different thing for the mac but yeah.
 
 S
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Bryan Smart wrote:
 
 When you move a file, the computer just changes info stored on the drive
 about where the file is stored. It doesn't have to spend time actually
 making another copy. That's why people want to move instead of copy.
 Copying
 a 1GB folder takes as long as is required to copy 1GB of data. Moving a
 1GB
 folder is almost instant.
 
 Bryan
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 10:53 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: How do you drag a file or folder from one location to
 another?
 
 When dragging and dropping, aren't you just copying and pasting anyhow?
 If
 one were to compare what is actually happening with the files, wouldn't it
 take just as long to drag and drop a 1-gig file as copying and pasting it?
 
 Teresa
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 6:17 AM, John J Herzog wrote:
 
 Hi Teresa,
 I wanted to comment on your suggestion that it is easier to copy and
 paste versus drag and drop. I'm afraid that, for time reasons alone, drag
 and drop would be far more useful than copying and pasting currently is.
 When you drag and drop something from one place to another, it is almost
 instantaneous. By contrast, copying something that is multiple gigabytes,
 like an Itunes library for instance, takes quite a while. So, for time
 sake
 alone, dragging and dropping would be a far easier method of moving things
 from one spot to another, if only we could utilize it. 
 Now, however, you have to copy something to a new location, remembering,
 of course, to delete the previous one if you don't want it any longer,
 which
 takes a good amount of time. For this reason, I wish drag and drop would
 be
 implemented in voiceover. 
 
 
 John
 
 On Jun 30, 2010, at 8:38 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
 
 
 Now that I think of it, I do remember asking myself if I could live
 without a cut feature as I looked at some Mac

Re: ripping cds

Itunes is your friend, although I'd like to know hwo to rip directly to a 
playlist rather than digging them out of your libruary to make a playlist. but 
as soon as you insert yiur disk, itunes will ask you to import or what you want 
to do with the cd
On Jul 1, 2010, at 6:53 PM, denise avant wrote:

 Hello all,
 I’ve used windows media player for quite sometime to rip cds. But now that 
 I’m switching to the mac, I’m wondering what is the equivalent program to do 
 that on the mac side.
 Also, I’m going to listen to the stream of the nfb convention. Again, I’d 
 normally use windows media player. Is itunes or some other program best on 
 the apple side of things.
 Thanks.
  
 
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Re: help setting up apple mail

after telling mail you have a pop account press command comma to go into the 
setting, click accounts, click advanced and change the port from 993 to 995
On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Josh wrote:

 Hello
 
 ok my wife is doe with her music lessons she is taking online so now
 I'm at my macbook pro with snow leopard. If someone could give me a
 call at 610-373-1245 or send me an email at jkenn...@gmail.com I am in
 eastern standard time. Jody told me how to do it but we got talking
 about notetakers and other stuff and apparently I forgot. I got as far
 as telling apple mail I have a pop account and that's as far as I got
 basically. When I told it to bring all accounts online then to get
 mail with command shift n, I hear a new mail sound but no messages are
 coming in. The mac is up and running so give me a call or shoot an
 email, I can check my mail in safari.
 
 My phone number is 610-373-1245 and my email is jkenn...@gmail.com  Josh
 
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Re: Test Intro

yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a 
little to figure it out
On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote:

 This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post 
 to the list.
 
 If so, WHEW!  I didn't know I had to go through so many hoops to use gmail.
 
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Re: Test Intro

Thanks for the reply Cody.   

I received it with my apple mail program, but I'm still having trouble with 
this list.  Can anyone tell me why I didn't receive the  post I sent, in my 
apple mail.  I received the posts before and after my post, but not mine.  I 
can see that it posted to the list.


Thanks,
Gary

On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

 yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a 
 little to figure it out
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote:
 
 This is a test to see if my message will connect to the smtp server and post 
 to the list.
 
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Re: Test Intro

I guess that is the feature on the list, no one receives their own message, I 
don't either and at first it left me wondering but it does work.
On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Gary wrote:

 Thanks for the reply Cody.   
 
 I received it with my apple mail program, but I'm still having trouble with 
 this list.  Can anyone tell me why I didn't receive the  post I sent, in my 
 apple mail.  I received the posts before and after my post, but not mine.  I 
 can see that it posted to the list.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Gary
 
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 yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a 
 little to figure it out
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote:
 
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 post to the list.
 
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Re: Test Intro

Thanks Cody, appreciate it.

On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:35 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

 I guess that is the feature on the list, no one receives their own message, I 
 don't either and at first it left me wondering but it does work.
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Gary wrote:
 
 Thanks for the reply Cody.   
 
 I received it with my apple mail program, but I'm still having trouble with 
 this list.  Can anyone tell me why I didn't receive the  post I sent, in my 
 apple mail.  I received the posts before and after my post, but not mine.  I 
 can see that it posted to the list.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Gary
 
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:24 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:
 
 yes, it went through. gmail can be tricky but pop is best to use took me a 
 little to figure it out
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Gary wrote:
 
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 post to the list.
 
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Re: Test Intro

2010-07-01 Thread Allison Manzino

Hi Gary,

Your message did come through. Good to have you. You'll love this list, 
everyone is very helpful and informative. I'm Allison by the way. I'm new to 
the Mac, I just purchased mine in April. I love it. Welcome to the list, and 
have fun!

Allison

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Keyboard issues with fusion, suggestions?

2010-07-01 Thread Christy Schulte

I know some of this has come up before, but info gets lost in other subjects 
and messages, so I was hoping to maybe see this addressed in one message.

Are any of you successfully running windows on a macbook pro, using jaws or SA? 
And if so, do you have any tips or tricks?

My main issues are two. One, as I've mentioned before, is that even with sharp 
keys, I can't get an insert key that works reliably. For example, after 
remapping a key to insert, I can get the insert-t to work for SA, but not 
insert-f. Instead I get the find dialog. Second, I need to find a way to 
reliably switch the keyboard from the mac side and into windows. It's flakey to 
say the least, even with VO off. sometimes I'm in windows, sometimes I'm not, 
and more often than not it takes several tries of turning VO on, seeing where I 
am, turning it off again, trying keystrokes, before I get it working. 

I really, really want to switch this to my primary machine, but I simply can't 
with these keyboard troubles. If it makes a difference, I often find myself 
using the trackpad commander when on the mac side of things.

Thanks for any help on these issues or any other tips!

Christy

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Re: help setting up apple mail

This is true for the pop server, but not the smtp server.  Make sure you select 
the default ports setting (25, 465, 587) for the smtp server.  Other wise, 
you'll be receiving messages but not sending.  This is the problem I was having.


On Jul 1, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Cody Hurst wrote:

 after telling mail you have a pop account press command comma to go into the 
 setting, click accounts, click advanced and change the port from 993 to 995
 On Jul 1, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Josh wrote:
 
 Hello
 
 ok my wife is doe with her music lessons she is taking online so now
 I'm at my macbook pro with snow leopard. If someone could give me a
 call at 610-373-1245 or send me an email at jkenn...@gmail.com I am in
 eastern standard time. Jody told me how to do it but we got talking
 about notetakers and other stuff and apparently I forgot. I got as far
 as telling apple mail I have a pop account and that's as far as I got
 basically. When I told it to bring all accounts online then to get
 mail with command shift n, I hear a new mail sound but no messages are
 coming in. The mac is up and running so give me a call or shoot an
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Re: help setting up apple mail