Re: New iPhone 13, out of box procedures

[Phil Halton]

Thanks Brad that makes things a lot easier.

Sent from my IPhone


> On May 7, 2022, at 3:55 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Yes, on a new iPhone on first start-up, triple pressing the side button will 
> start VoiceOver.
> 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On May 7, 2022, at 13:53, Phil Halton  wrote:
> 
> I just received a new iPhone 13 from my carrier (Verizon), and I am unsure of 
> how to proceed. I want to bring up voice over as soon as possible because I 
> understand that I will have to set up the phone number in the early stages 
> and I need voice over immediately. Is it the case that I just do a triple 
> click of the side button to bring up voiceover? Please tell me I don’t have 
> to go into settings accessibility voiceover etc.
> 
> Sent from my IPhone
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Re: New iPhone 13, out of box procedures

[Brad Snyder]

Yes, on a new iPhone on first start-up, triple pressing the side button will 
start VoiceOver.


- Brad -




On May 7, 2022, at 13:53, Phil Halton  wrote:

I just received a new iPhone 13 from my carrier (Verizon), and I am unsure of 
how to proceed. I want to bring up voice over as soon as possible because I 
understand that I will have to set up the phone number in the early stages and 
I need voice over immediately. Is it the case that I just do a triple click of 
the side button to bring up voiceover? Please tell me I don’t have to go into 
settings accessibility voiceover etc.

Sent from my IPhone

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RE: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[M. Taylor]

That's great news, Brad.

Thank you for letting us know.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Brad Snyder
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 7:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

There's no need for any of this. When you order your new phone from the Apple 
online store, you provide your phone number and your carrier and your phone 
arrives ready to activate. It will automatically activate when you turn it on 
for the first time. All you have to do is confirm some information and the 
phone automatically activates. I've done this many times. It works flawlessly.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2022, at 21:12, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Phil,

When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take 
the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it 
for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate 
your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the 
new phone.  The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; 
not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself.

In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be 
transferred to the new phone.

When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new 
SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new 
device.

Phil, try not to overthink this, okay?  Given that you want to stay with 
Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or 
unlocked.

Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be 
well.

If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon 
Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of 
moments.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[Brad Snyder]

There's no need for any of this. When you order your new phone from the Apple 
online store, you provide your phone number and your carrier and your phone 
arrives ready to activate. It will automatically activate when you turn it on 
for the first time. All you have to do is confirm some information and the 
phone automatically activates. I've done this many times. It works flawlessly.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2022, at 21:12, M. Taylor  wrote:

Hello Phil,

When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take 
the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it 
for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate 
your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the 
new phone.  The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; 
not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself.

In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be 
transferred to the new phone.

When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new 
SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new 
device.

Phil, try not to overthink this, okay?  Given that you want to stay with 
Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or 
unlocked.

Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be 
well.

If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon 
Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of 
moments.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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RE: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[M. Taylor]

Hello Phil,

When you receive your phone from the online Apple store, you can either take 
the new phone to your local Verizon Wireless store and they will activate it 
for you or if you prefer, you can call Verizon Wireless and they can activate 
your new phone, remotely, assuming you can provide the IMEI ID number of the 
new phone.  The ID number will be listed on the side of the actual iPhone box; 
not the shipping container but the Apple packaging, itself.

In either of these two scenarios, your current wireless phone number will be 
transferred to the new phone.

When updating from an older phone to a new one, I recommend activating a new 
SIM card rather than simply transferring your current SIM card to the new 
device.

Phil, try not to overthink this, okay?  Given that you want to stay with 
Verizon Wireless, do not be concerned with whether the new phone is locked or 
unlocked.

Just go ahead and buy your new phone, from the Apple Store, and all will be 
well.

If you can, after receiving your new phone, take it to your local Verizon 
Wireless store and they will get it up and running for you in a matter of 
moments.

Good Luck and let us know how it goes.

Mark


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Phil Halton
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2022 8:46 AM
To: Macvisionaries 
Subject: New iPhone locked or unlocked



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

An e-SIM may be an option in some cases, too. If you travel internationally, 
obtaining a SIM card from a local carrier for the duration of your stay is 
often better than paying what can in some circumstances be very heavy roaming 
charges from your existing carrier.

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  on 
behalf of Phil Halton 
Date: Thursday, 10March, 2022 at 14:15
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked
So Brad,
I’m assuming that when you make the purchase, you select to have them transfer 
your phone number (i.e. Sim card etc.) to the new phone and when you receive it 
you then have to activate it with the carrier?

Maybe I got some bad info about it being locked to the carrier that way. Even 
if it is I suppose it doesn’t matter if you’re happy with your current carrier. 
Still trying to figure out what the advantage of buying an unlocked phone is, 
Since if it isn’t locked then you could swap out Sim cards all day whether you 
bought a phone with your number transferred or the “unlocked“ version.… 
Probably going to buy a new phone well my money still has purchasing power. 
Going from a 10r to 13. And I’ll most likely have them set it up for me.

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[Phil Halton]

So Brad,
I’m assuming that when you make the purchase, you select to have them transfer 
your phone number (i.e. Sim card etc.) to the new phone and when you receive it 
you then have to activate it with the carrier?

Maybe I got some bad info about it being locked to the carrier that way. Even 
if it is I suppose it doesn’t matter if you’re happy with your current carrier. 
Still trying to figure out what the advantage of buying an unlocked phone is, 
Since if it isn’t locked then you could swap out Sim cards all day whether you 
bought a phone with your number transferred or the “unlocked“ version.… 
Probably going to buy a new phone well my money still has purchasing power. 
Going from a 10r to 13. And I’ll most likely have them set it up for me.

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Re: New iPhone locked or unlocked

[Brad Snyder]

iPhones purchased directly from Apple via the website or the Apple store app, 
are always unlocked, and not tied to a certain carrier even though you may 
specify a carrier when ordering your new iPhone.
I have purchased my last several iPhones from Apple this way, and can confirm 
that the iPhone you receive is ready to go and not locked to my carrier.
As far as I'm concerned, this is the only way to purchase a new iPhone.

- Brad -

On Mar 10, 2022, at 10:46, Phil Halton  wrote:



Because I don’t really want to go to an Apple store I’ve been thinking about 
buying a new iPhone and having it shipped to me direct. And, because I really 
don’t want to mess around with changing out Sim cards from my old phone to the 
new I’ve been considering just having the sim card set up and pre-loaded by 
Apple. Sounds like a great solution for me but then I realized that that would 
mean that my iPhone would be locked to the carrier for anunspecified period of 
time. I’m perfectly happy with my current carrier and have no plans of changing 
any time in the near or far future. What disadvantages am I looking at if I go 
ahead and buy a locked phone versus an unlocked. By the way the carrier would 
be Verizon. Sent from my IPhone

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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Hi Lori, a hotspot, is your cell phone is acting as an Internet connection for 
a secondary device to connect it. So safe for instants, you took your Mac 
computer. And you connected to the net with it. Since your phone and your Mac 
are linked to the same Apple ID, your computer will automatically see your 
personal hotspot, and ask you if you wanna connect. You will simply tell it 
yes. By doing your quick navigation keys. Then whenever you want to open up 
Safari or your mail, you will be able to surf the web just like you normally 
would at home except your hotspot connection from your phone is being your 
data. I hope this makes sense. And probably since Illinois is not listed as 
being a covert spot, you may or may not have signal.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:41 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
> central and southern Il.
> 
> how does hotspot work?
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
>> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
>> 
>> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 
>> 
>> 
>> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
 spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
 winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
 lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
 to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
 coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
> mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. 
>> I saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>> afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 
>>> a month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
 as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
 new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of 
 not having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one 
 line plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and 
 the please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of 
> stock at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it 
> without taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Brad Snyder]

Cellular  carriers work the same way in the US as in the frozen tundra of 
Canada.
A cell phone using the spectrum network should work anywhere within the 50 
states.

- Brad -

On Jan 25, 2022, at 18:51, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
 wrote:

Hi,

I’m not sure exactly how your carriers work in the States, but up here in the 
frozen north, sometimes our carriers have agreements with other carriers in 
order to get full coverage.  The list of cities there may simply be the ones 
that have cable TV, and wireless coverage is more robust.  Your best bet is to 
give Spectrum a quick call and let them know that you’re going to Illinois and 
confirming what kind of coverage there is for you.

Regarding HotSpots.  My understanding of HotSpots is not for cell phone calls, 
but more for using your cellular data connection as a WiFi HotSpot so that you 
can use the Internet etc.  I guess that you could do that sort of thing to make 
a FaceTime call as well.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 16:41, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
> central and southern Il.
> 
> how does hotspot work?
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
>> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
>> 
>> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois
>> 
>> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
 spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
 winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
 lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
 to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
 coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
> mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. 
>> I saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>> afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 
>>> a month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
 as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
 new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of 
 not having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one 
 line plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and 
 the please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  
> wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of 
> stock at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it 
> without taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: new iPhone se

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

I’m not sure exactly how your carriers work in the States, but up here in the 
frozen north, sometimes our carriers have agreements with other carriers in 
order to get full coverage.  The list of cities there may simply be the ones 
that have cable TV, and wireless coverage is more robust.  Your best bet is to 
give Spectrum a quick call and let them know that you’re going to Illinois and 
confirming what kind of coverage there is for you.

Regarding HotSpots.  My understanding of HotSpots is not for cell phone calls, 
but more for using your cellular data connection as a WiFi HotSpot so that you 
can use the Internet etc.  I guess that you could do that sort of thing to make 
a FaceTime call as well.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 16:41, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
> central and southern Il.
> 
> how does hotspot work?
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
>> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
>> 
>> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 
>> 
>> 
>> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>>> 
 On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
 spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
 winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
 lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
 to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
 coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
> mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson > > wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. 
>> I saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>> afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 
>>> a month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson >>> > wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
 as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
 new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of 
 not having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one 
 line plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and 
 the please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  > wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of 
> stock at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it 
> without taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

the city I go to isn't listed there. neither is Chicago. there's a lot in 
central and southern Il.

how does hotspot work?

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 4:19 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect 
> to a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to
> 
> https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 
> 
> 
> Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
>> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
>>> spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
>>> winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
>>> lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
>>> to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
>>> coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
 was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my 
 mother who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  > wrote:
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I 
> saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
> afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud > > wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
>>> as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
>>> new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
 On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud >>> > wrote:
 
 I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
 at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without 
 taking it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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Re: new iPhone se

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

If you are a Spectrum customer, then your phone should automatically connect to 
a Spectrum tower when in Illinois.  According to

https://www.spectrum.com/services/illinois 


Spectrum has coverage in Illinois.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 15:16, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
> account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with 
>> spectrum, and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good 
>> winning if you go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she 
>> lives. But everywhere I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up 
>> to Waco I've been over by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great 
>> coverage that wins. So I don't think you still have any issues.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I 
>>> was also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother 
>>> who doesn't have internet believe it or not.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
 might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
 power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
 in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
 Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm not sure how you use hotspot. my mom lives in Il. she's on my sister's 
account which I think is Verizon. not sure how to use spectrum up there.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:31 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with spectrum, 
> and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good winning if you 
> go to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she lives. But everywhere 
> I've been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up to Waco I've been over 
> by brenham almost out of Houston and have had great coverage that wins. So I 
> don't think you still have any issues.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I was 
>> also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother who 
>> doesn't have internet believe it or not.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
 month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
 
> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

No problem, glad I could help.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks!
> I'll try that.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Actually you can. Tell them that you experienced an outage, and ask them for 
> credit back on your bill. My mom has done it all the time I haven't done it 
> personally. But she has.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I didn't know you could do that.
>> Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you 
>> experience downtime.
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay,
>>> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>>>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>>>> battery.
>>>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>>>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>> 
>>>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell 
>>>> I guess that's why I was lucky.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>>>>> On Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having 
>>>>> here in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I 
>>>>> saw Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this 
>>>>> afternoon.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple 
>>>>>>> as taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your 
>>>>>>> new one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>>>> 
&

RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Thanks!
I'll try that.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:44 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Actually you can. Tell them that you experienced an outage, and ask them for 
credit back on your bill. My mom has done it all the time I haven't done it 
personally. But she has.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know you could do that.
> Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you 
> experience downtime.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>>> battery.
>>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>> 
>>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> 
>>>

Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Actually you can. Tell them that you experienced an outage, and ask them for 
credit back on your bill. My mom has done it all the time I haven't done it 
personally. But she has.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:38 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know you could do that.
> Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you 
> experience downtime.
> 
>> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Okay,
>> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>>> battery.
>>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>>> 
>>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If you h

RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

I didn't know you could do that.
Wish I could do that with Spectrum Internet.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:36 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you experience 
downtime.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>> battery.
>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The archives for this list can be searched at:
&g

Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Oh yes. And actually you would have to call and get a credit if you experience 
downtime.

> On Jan 25, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Okay,
> But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
>> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
>> battery.
>> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my 
>> Internet went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
>> guess that's why I was lucky.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new 
>>>>> one. And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not 
>>>>> having to pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line 
>>>>> plan. As the one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the 
>>>>> please. Well you can get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock 
>>>>>> at Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking 
>>>>>> it to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>> Lorie
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or 
>>>>>> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the 
>>>>>> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>>> 
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>>

RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Okay,
But the same can happen anywhere though I hope downtime is brief.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2022 4:33 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
> battery.
> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my Internet 
> went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
> guess that's why I was lucky.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it 
>>>>> to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>> Visionaries list.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor.  You can reach mark 
>>>>> at:  mk...@ucla.edu and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at 
>>>>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com
>>>>> 
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>>>

Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

So true, but I will say I don't leave in Florida actually live in Texas.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:56 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
> However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
> battery.
> The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my Internet 
> went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
> guess that's why I was lucky.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
>> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
>> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it 
>>>>> to the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>>> 
>>>>> thanks.
>>>>> Lorie
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> The following information is important for all members of the Mac 
>>>>> Visionaries list.
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Lori, I just wanted to let you know, I have tested the hotspot with spectrum, 
and there is no issues with it lagging so you should be good winning if you go 
to see your mom. I don't know where in the state she lives. But everywhere I've 
been, I haven't lost any coverage. I've been up to Waco I've been over by 
brenham almost out of Houston and have had great coverage that wins. So I don't 
think you still have any issues.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 6:28 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I was 
> also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother who 
> doesn't have internet believe it or not.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you 
>> might benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of 
>> power outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here 
>> in Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw 
>> Encore electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>>> 
 On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
 
 Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
 taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
 And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
 pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
 one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
 get two lines for 60 bucks.
 
> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it 
> to the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

yeah. you're right. we've already had a lot of cold weather for Texas. I was 
also thinking of upgrading to the $45 plan when I go to visit my mother who 
doesn't have internet believe it or not.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:46 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
> benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power 
> outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in 
> Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore 
> electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
 On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
 
 I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
 Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
 the store? if so, how do I do it?
 
 thanks.
 Lorie
 
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

It depends on where you are in Florida and who your carrier is.
However, it could be hit or miss, and I was more worried about conserving 
battery.
The only time I have switched to the more expensive plan was when my Internet 
went down, and I needed enough data to use my phone as a hotspot.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:53 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
guess that's why I was lucky.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
> benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power 
> outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in 
> Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore 
> electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Actually, the cell coverage was great. And most areas here in Texas. Cell I 
guess that's why I was lucky.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 4:51 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
> hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at 
> best and land lines are actually better after a power outage.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
> benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power 
> outages due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in 
> Texas. But I'm hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore 
> electric out working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
>> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

I've never lived through a major snow storm, but I assume that it is like 
hurricanes in that once the power goes out cellular coverage is spotty at best 
and land lines are actually better after a power outage.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 5:47 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power outages 
due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in Texas. But I'm 
hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore electric out 
working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Yes exactly Lorie. Something else I was going to point out as well, you might 
benefit from the $45 a month plan, if in you experienced a lot of power outages 
due to the winter storms that we are going to be having here in Texas. But I'm 
hoping that we don't have that issue, this year. I saw Encore electric out 
working on some of the power poles just this afternoon.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a 
> month. I don't need 2 lines anyway.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

Pretty well everything from settings is transferred over.  Even some of your 
various sign-ins should transfer.

Later…


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Apple Professional Learning Specialist
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> On Jan 20, 2022, at 14:56, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> that did it.
> 
> how much of the stuff from settings gets installed when I backup from iCloud? 
> I know I'm going to have to sign into all of my apps but I mean things like 
> what's in the rotor and how I have autolock set etc.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Press the home button three times quickly.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:05 PM
>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the 
>> home button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not 
>> working right now. is there another way to turn on vo?
>> 
>>> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
>>> Sim card in the mail.
>>> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck 
>>> paying for two lines.
>>> See this link.
>>> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
>>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>>> Subject: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

that did it.

how much of the stuff from settings gets installed when I backup from iCloud? I 
know I'm going to have to sign into all of my apps but I mean things like 
what's in the rotor and how I have autolock set etc.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:07 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Press the home button three times quickly.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:05 PM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the 
> home button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not 
> working right now. is there another way to turn on vo?
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
>> Sim card in the mail.
>> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
>> for two lines.
>> See this link.
>> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
>> To: via MacVisionaries 
>> Subject: new iPhone se
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

since I'm already a Spectrum customer I can get mobile service for $14 a month. 
I don't need 2 lines anyway.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:51 PM, joseph hudson  wrote:
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
> two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Well if you were ever wanting to try your hand at android, well keeping your 
feet in iOS it's definitely affordable option you're welcome.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:09 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> I don't know four people right now who could benefit, but I think adding a 
> second line wouldn't be so bad. If needed in the future.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:07 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Rebecca, no problem. Something else I forgot to point out, let's just say you 
> had a total of four of you, it would only be 29.99 to add each additional 
> line.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
>> information.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
>> data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my 
>> work cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my 
>> personal iPhone.
>> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
>>> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
>>> I thought about exploring android in the future.
>>> Thanks. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>>> 
>>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to 
>>> pay for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the 
>>> one line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can 
>>> get two lines for 60 bucks.
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>>> 
>>>> thanks.
>>>> Lorie
>>>> 
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Thanks.
I don't know four people right now who could benefit, but I think adding a 
second line wouldn't be so bad. If needed in the future.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:07 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Rebecca, no problem. Something else I forgot to point out, let's just say you 
had a total of four of you, it would only be 29.99 to add each additional line.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
> information.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
> data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my 
> work cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my 
> personal iPhone.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
>> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
>> I thought about exploring android in the future.
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Rebecca, no problem. Something else I forgot to point out, let's just say you 
had a total of four of you, it would only be 29.99 to add each additional line.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:03 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Thanks.
> It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
> information.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
> data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my 
> work cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my 
> personal iPhone.
> 
>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
>> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
>> I thought about exploring android in the future.
>> Thanks. 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of joseph hudson
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
>> 
>> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
>> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
>> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
>> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
>> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
>> two lines for 60 bucks.
>> 
>>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>>> 
>>> thanks.
>>> Lorie
>>> 
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Thanks.
It makes sense that you would have a plan like that, and I appreciate the 
information.

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Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 3:02 PM
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Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my work 
cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my personal 
iPhone.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
> I thought about exploring android in the future.
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
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> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
> two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Rebekah, yes that's true. The $60 plan offers you two lines with unlimited 
data. And talk and text as well. It's the current plan that I have for my work 
cell which you will occasionally see me sign my signature with and my personal 
iPhone.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:59 PM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
> data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
> I thought about exploring android in the future.
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of joseph hudson
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new iPhone se
> 
> Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as 
> taking your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. 
> And by the way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay 
> for two lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one 
> line plan, is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get 
> two lines for 60 bucks.
> 
>> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
>> thanks.
>> Lorie
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RE: new iPhone se

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Actually, you can get a 1GB plan for $14.00 if you don't need the unlimited 
data., but what does the $60 plan offer?
I thought about exploring android in the future.
Thanks. 


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Behalf Of joseph hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:51 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as taking 
your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. And by the 
way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay for two 
lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one line plan, 
is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get two lines for 
60 bucks.

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Tap the home button three times. That will bring up voiceover. Siri will not be 
activated until you have the phone set up on a Wi-Fi network.

> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:05 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the 
> home button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not 
> working right now. is there another way to turn on vo?
> 
>> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
>> 
>> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
>> Sim card in the mail.
>> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
>> for two lines.
>> See this link.
>> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
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>> Subject: new iPhone se
>> 
>> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
>> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
>> the store? if so, how do I do it?
>> 
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Re: new iPhone se

[joseph hudson]

Lori, since you're already a spectrum customer, it should be a simple as taking 
your Sim card out of your old phone and putting it in your new one. And by the 
way, for that person, that gave her the idea of not having to pay for two 
lines. That is actually cheaper than the one line plan. As the one line plan, 
is 45 bucks a month plus taxes and the please. Well you can get two lines for 
60 bucks.

> On Jan 18, 2022, at 11:20 PM, Lorie McCloud  wrote:
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Press the home button three times quickly.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 2:05 PM
To: via MacVisionaries 
Subject: Re: new iPhone se

I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the home 
button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not working 
right now. is there another way to turn on vo?

> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
> Sim card in the mail.
> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
> for two lines.
> See this link.
> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: new iPhone se
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
> 
> thanks.
> Lorie
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Re: new iPhone se

[Lorie McCloud]

I'm having trouble getting vo to come on on my new s e. do I hold down the home 
button and tell siri to turn on voiceover or won't that work? it's not working 
right now. is there another way to turn on vo?

> On Jan 19, 2022, at 4:48 AM, Rebecca Skipper  wrote:
> 
> Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a 
> Sim card in the mail.
> be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
> for two lines.
> See this link.
> https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Lorie McCloud
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 12:20 AM
> To: via MacVisionaries 
> Subject: new iPhone se
> 
> I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
> Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to 
> the store? if so, how do I do it?
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RE: new iPhone se

[Rebecca Skipper]

Call Spectrum and give them the IMEI and they should be able to send you a Sim 
card in the mail.
be sure to get them to deactivate your old phone so you are not stuck paying 
for two lines.
See this link.
https://mobile.spectrum.com/support/article/36173467/spectrum-mobile-activation


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Subject: new iPhone se

I got an unlocked iPhone se from Amazon because they were out of stock at 
Spectrum. is it possible to switch my line over to it without taking it to the 
store? if so, how do I do it?

thanks.
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Re: new iPhone

[Herbie Allen]

I agree, I can do an iPhone transfer no problem, but I have never had luck with 
the watch.

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 15:50, 'Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries 
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> I could never do it with the Apple Watch.  I’ll try again the next time I get 
> a new watch.  It always works with an I phone.
> 
> Kawal.
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>> On 14 Nov 2021, at 20:46, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
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>> Hi,
>> 
>> When aligning anything to do with the camera from a blind prospective, do 
>> the following:
>> 
>> • Set the old iPhone, or Apple Watch on a flat surface like a table or 
>> counter.
>> • Bring the camera very close to the older iPhone, or Apple Watch etc.
>> • Make sure that the lens for this iPhone is somewhat centred over the old 
>> iPhone or Apple Watch.
>> • Slowly lift the camera iPhone straight up and away from the older iPhone 
>> or Apple Watch, usually only to about 50 cm or 18 inches at the most.
>> • Normally, you’ll feel a haptic vibration, and the iPhone will announce 
>> something, as it recognizes that you’ve accomplished the task.
>> • If you do not feel the vibration, or hear the prompt that it completed, 
>> then repeat the above steps starting where you bring the camera close to the 
>> device on the flat surface.
>> 
>> This has worked for me every time.  Usually on the first or second try when 
>> raising the iPhone.  In fact, I just did this with a new Apple Watch on 
>> Thursday.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later…
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 12:14, Yolanda Thompson >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/14/21, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>>>  >> > wrote:
 Hi all:
 
 Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my
 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
 would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
 13 pro max.
 
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Re: new iPhone

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I could never do it with the Apple Watch.  I’ll try again the next time I get a 
new watch.  It always works with an I phone.

Kawal.

> On 14 Nov 2021, at 20:46, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> When aligning anything to do with the camera from a blind prospective, do the 
> following:
> 
> • Set the old iPhone, or Apple Watch on a flat surface like a table or 
> counter.
> • Bring the camera very close to the older iPhone, or Apple Watch etc.
> • Make sure that the lens for this iPhone is somewhat centred over the old 
> iPhone or Apple Watch.
> • Slowly lift the camera iPhone straight up and away from the older iPhone or 
> Apple Watch, usually only to about 50 cm or 18 inches at the most.
> • Normally, you’ll feel a haptic vibration, and the iPhone will announce 
> something, as it recognizes that you’ve accomplished the task.
> • If you do not feel the vibration, or hear the prompt that it completed, 
> then repeat the above steps starting where you bring the camera close to the 
> device on the flat surface.
> 
> This has worked for me every time.  Usually on the first or second try when 
> raising the iPhone.  In fact, I just did this with a new Apple Watch on 
> Thursday.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later…
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Professional Learning Specialist
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2021, at 12:14, Yolanda Thompson > > wrote:
>> 
>> You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/14/21, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
>>  > > wrote:
>>> Hi all:
>>> 
>>> Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my
>>> 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
>>> would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
>>> 13 pro max.
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Re: new iPhone

['Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries]

Hi,

When aligning anything to do with the camera from a blind prospective, do the 
following:

• Set the old iPhone, or Apple Watch on a flat surface like a table or counter.
• Bring the camera very close to the older iPhone, or Apple Watch etc.
• Make sure that the lens for this iPhone is somewhat centred over the old 
iPhone or Apple Watch.
• Slowly lift the camera iPhone straight up and away from the older iPhone or 
Apple Watch, usually only to about 50 cm or 18 inches at the most.
• Normally, you’ll feel a haptic vibration, and the iPhone will announce 
something, as it recognizes that you’ve accomplished the task.
• If you do not feel the vibration, or hear the prompt that it completed, then 
repeat the above steps starting where you bring the camera close to the device 
on the flat surface.

This has worked for me every time.  Usually on the first or second try when 
raising the iPhone.  In fact, I just did this with a new Apple Watch on 
Thursday.

HTH.

Later…


Tim Kilburn
Jamf Certified Tech
Apple Professional Learning Specialist
Apple Teacher
(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

> On Nov 14, 2021, at 12:14, Yolanda Thompson  wrote:
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> You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.
> 
> 
> On 11/14/21, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com  wrote:
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>> Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my
>> 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO
>> would give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the
>> 13 pro max.
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Re: new iPhone

[Yolanda Thompson]

You can choose to do it manually and input the code. That is what I did.


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Re: new iPhone

[Cameron Strife]

Yeah, for future reference, initiating pairing manually via the pass
code is much easier.



On 11/14/21, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries
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> On 14/11/21 10:52, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:
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>> Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data
>> from my 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing
>> circles. Wish VO would give haptick feedback when you are lining them
>> up. So far, I like the 13 pro max.
>>
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> You can enter a passcode instead, as I recall, to initiate a transfer.
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RE: new iPhone

[sarai.bucciarelli]

You have to line up the circle after doing the passcode.

 

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To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
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On 14/11/21 10:52, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>  wrote:

 

Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data from my 
8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing circles. Wish VO would 
give haptick feedback when you are lining them up. So far, I like the 13 pro 
max.


You can enter a passcode instead, as I recall, to initiate a transfer.

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Re: new iPhone

['Jason White' via MacVisionaries]

On 14/11/21 10:52, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:


Just purchased a 13 Pro Max. Let me tell you, transferring the data 
from my 8Plus is a pain. Took me forever to line up the pairing 
circles. Wish VO would give haptick feedback when you are lining them 
up. So far, I like the 13 pro max.




You can enter a passcode instead, as I recall, to initiate a transfer.

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Re: New iPhone SE, Magic Keyboard Orders Begin, Mini-LED iPad Pro in 2021?

['Kawal Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries]

I want an I phone with Touch ID and Face ID in it all at once thank you very 
much!  Wonder if that will happen??

> On 17 Apr 2020, at 11:49, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
> 
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RE: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Simon Fogarty]

And Ray,

I must say it does seem more possible for sighted people to look down on us 
blind people than it is for us blind people to look down on each other,

I tried looking down on myself but couldn't see anything.


-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 8:06 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Ray I do not disagree with you BUT. If its too hot in the kitchen for you, 
get out. We ARE here to assist one another, not to cut them down. We may all 
have things in common, bit we are all different. So when one of those whiny 
blind folk bother to ask for help, they came to the right place. So cut them 
some slack. You were not born all-knowing, just like the rest of the human race.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the 
challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did 
it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/5/2017 10:57 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
> Just being truthful blast it.  I am getting sick and tired of whiny blind 
> people complaining we can’t do this or that when, if they would just bother 
> to properly inform themselves, they would see otherwise.  Is it any wonder 
> that the sighted look down on us so much?
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:16 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>>Perhaps its some blind people who don't have all the answers and go to 
>> those who are there to offer tech support. Why blame them for being helpful? 
>> Why waste your time being so critical? It serves no purpose.
>>
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, 
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off 
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>> On 12/5/2017 3:33 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
>>> Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance what 
>>> so ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals out there 
>>> are trying to make us blind people think that a blind person cannot set up 
>>> an iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people are trying to make 
>>> the rest of us blind people think we cannot set up an iPhone X without the 
>>> assistance of the all mighty sighted?  Well, all I have to say about that 
>>> is BS!!!
>>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>>> blind:
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yes Robin,
>>>> Why is that so difficult to understand?
>>>> I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for 
>>>> the team I work with, And yes totally blind 
>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@goog
>>>> legroups.com]*On Behalf Of*Robin *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 December 2017 
>>>> 6:12 AM *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Subject:*Re: New IPhone X and Setup.
>>>> Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX By TotallyBlind with ONLY 
>>>> PhoneAssistance Right???
>>>> or
>>>> Are you LowVision?
>>>>
>>>> Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX Enjoy YourSelf 
>>>> & Your iPhoneX At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up
>>>> today since I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple
>>>> Accessibility to ask for assistance since I wanted to be sure
>>>> everything went smoothly. The tech person did a screen sharing
>>>> session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set up
>>>> screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the
>>>> screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held
>>>> the 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.
>&

RE: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Simon Fogarty]

Hell, that's crazy,
I'm blind and don't have all the answers,

But I'm not going to sit on my ass and watch the world go by without trying to 
take part in it.

 Go hard or go home.

-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of E.T.
Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 5:16 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Perhaps its some blind people who don't have all the answers and go to 
those who are there to offer tech support. Why blame them for being helpful? 
Why waste your time being so critical? It serves no purpose.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world, all the 
challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off and say God did 
it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/5/2017 3:33 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
> Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance 
> what so ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals 
> out there are trying to make us blind people think that a blind person 
> cannot set up an iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people 
> are trying to make the rest of us blind people think we cannot set up 
> an iPhone X without the assistance of the all mighty sighted?  Well, 
> all I have to say about that is BS!!!
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the
> blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes Robin,
>> Why is that so difficult to understand?
>> I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for 
>> the team I work with, And yes totally blind 
>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@google
>> groups.com]*On
>> Behalf Of*Robin
>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM 
>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> *Subject:*Re: New IPhone X and Setup.
>> Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX By TotallyBlind with ONLY 
>> PhoneAssistance Right???
>> or
>> Are you LowVision?
>>
>> Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX Enjoy YourSelf & 
>> Your iPhoneX At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up
>> today since I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple
>> Accessibility to ask for assistance since I wanted to be sure
>> everything went smoothly. The tech person did a screen sharing
>> session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set up
>> screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the
>> screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held
>> the 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.
>>
>> For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most
>> frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it
>> kept requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found
>> this added unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone.
>> When the phone was finally up and running and I checked out
>> settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.
>>
>> During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go
>> to an Apple store later in the week since I’ll need a new
>> outerbox and screen protector so I think I’ll ask for assistance
>> then in setting up the facial recognition. So far the phone seems
>> lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of unlocking,
>> going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem
>> difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast
>> and very responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where
>> I’ll need to alter how I do things but as of now I am very happy
>> with what I’m experiencing with this phone.
>>
>> Eileen
>>
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RE: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Simon Fogarty]

I have sighted work colleagues coming to me to ask how to do things on both 
phones tablets and computers and that includes our Mac support speciallists
But then I also have clients that question how I work if I can’t see a screen 
or a keyboard.
I’ve started telling people that I use osmosus




From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Raymond Foret Jr
Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:34 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance what so 
ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals out there are 
trying to make us blind people think that a blind person cannot set up an 
iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people are trying to make the rest 
of us blind people think we cannot set up an iPhone X without the assistance of 
the all mighty sighted?  Well, all I have to say about that is BS!!!


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty 
<si...@blinky-net.com<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yes Robin,

Why is that so difficult to understand?

I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for the team I 
work with,
And yes totally blind

From: 
macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX
By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
Right???
or
Are you LowVision?

Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:


Hi All,

I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since I 
had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for 
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person 
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone 
wasn’t set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the 
screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 above 
the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.

For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most frustrating 
is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept requiring reentry of 
my pass code numerous times. I found this added unnecessarily to the time it 
took to set up the phone. When the phone was finally up and running and I 
checked out settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.

During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector 
so I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. 
So far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how 
I do things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with 
this phone.

Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Krister Ekstrom]

Here here, Ray. +1000 to that.

> 5 dec. 2017 kl. 19:57 skrev Raymond Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net>:
> 
> Just being truthful blast it.  I am getting sick and tired of whiny blind 
> people complaining we can’t do this or that when, if they would just bother 
> to properly inform themselves, they would see otherwise.  Is it any wonder 
> that the sighted look down on us so much?
> 
> 
> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> The constantly barefooted Ray
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:16 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  Perhaps its some blind people who don't have all the answers and go to 
>> those who are there to offer tech support. Why blame them for being helpful? 
>> Why waste your time being so critical? It serves no purpose.
>> 
>> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
>> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
>> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
>> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
>> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>> 
>> On 12/5/2017 3:33 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
>>> Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance what 
>>> so ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals out there 
>>> are trying to make us blind people think that a blind person cannot set up 
>>> an iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people are trying to make 
>>> the rest of us blind people think we cannot set up an iPhone X without the 
>>> assistance of the all mighty sighted?  Well, all I have to say about that 
>>> is BS!!!
>>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>>> blind:
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes Robin,
>>>> Why is that so difficult to understand?
>>>> I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for the 
>>>> team I work with,
>>>> And yes totally blind
>>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On
>>>>  Behalf Of*Robin
>>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM
>>>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Subject:*Re: New IPhone X and Setup.
>>>> Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX
>>>> By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
>>>> Right???
>>>> or
>>>> Are you LowVision?
>>>> 
>>>> Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
>>>> Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
>>>> At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>   Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>>   I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up
>>>>   today since I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple
>>>>   Accessibility to ask for assistance since I wanted to be sure
>>>>   everything went smoothly. The tech person did a screen sharing
>>>>   session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set up
>>>>   screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the
>>>>   screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held
>>>>   the 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.
>>>> 
>>>>   For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most
>>>>   frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it
>>>>   kept requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found
>>>>   this added unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone.
>>>>   When the phone was finally up and running and I checked out
>>>>   settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.
>>>> 
>>>>   During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go
>>>>   to an Apple store later in the week since I’ll need a new
>>>>   outerbox and screen protector so I think I’ll ask for assistance
>>>>   then in setting up the facial recognition. So far the phone seems
>>>>   lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of unlocking,
>>>>   going to the home screen and 

Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[E.T.]

   Ray I do not disagree with you BUT. If its too hot in the kitchen 
for you, get out. We ARE here to assist one another, not to cut them 
down. We may all have things in common, bit we are all different. So 
when one of those whiny blind folk bother to ask for help, they came to 
the right place. So cut them some slack. You were not born all-knowing, 
just like the rest of the human race.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/5/2017 10:57 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

Just being truthful blast it.  I am getting sick and tired of whiny blind 
people complaining we can’t do this or that when, if they would just bother to 
properly inform themselves, they would see otherwise.  Is it any wonder that 
the sighted look down on us so much?


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray


On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:16 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

   Perhaps its some blind people who don't have all the answers and go to those 
who are there to offer tech support. Why blame them for being helpful? Why 
waste your time being so critical? It serves no purpose.

 From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/5/2017 3:33 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:

Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance what so 
ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals out there are 
trying to make us blind people think that a blind person cannot set up an 
iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people are trying to make the rest 
of us blind people think we cannot set up an iPhone X without the assistance of 
the all mighty sighted?  Well, all I have to say about that is BS!!!
Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
Sincerely,
The constantly barefooted Ray

On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

Yes Robin,
Why is that so difficult to understand?
I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for the team I 
work with,
And yes totally blind
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On
 Behalf Of*Robin
*Sent:*Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:*Re: New IPhone X and Setup.
Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX
By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
Right???
or
Are you LowVision?

Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:

Hi All,

I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up
today since I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple
Accessibility to ask for assistance since I wanted to be sure
everything went smoothly. The tech person did a screen sharing
session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set up
screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the
screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held
the 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.

For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most
frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it
kept requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found
this added unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone.
When the phone was finally up and running and I checked out
settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.

During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go
to an Apple store later in the week since I’ll need a new
outerbox and screen protector so I think I’ll ask for assistance
then in setting up the facial recognition. So far the phone seems
lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of unlocking,
going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast
and very responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where
I’ll need to alter how I do things but as of now I am very happy
with what I’m experiencing with this phone.

Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Just being truthful blast it.  I am getting sick and tired of whiny blind 
people complaining we can’t do this or that when, if they would just bother to 
properly inform themselves, they would see otherwise.  Is it any wonder that 
the sighted look down on us so much?


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Dec 5, 2017, at 10:16 AM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
>   Perhaps its some blind people who don't have all the answers and go to 
> those who are there to offer tech support. Why blame them for being helpful? 
> Why waste your time being so critical? It serves no purpose.
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
> "God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
> all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
> and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
> E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> 
> On 12/5/2017 3:33 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
>> Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance what 
>> so ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals out there 
>> are trying to make us blind people think that a blind person cannot set up 
>> an iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people are trying to make the 
>> rest of us blind people think we cannot set up an iPhone X without the 
>> assistance of the all mighty sighted?  Well, all I have to say about that is 
>> BS!!!
>> Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:
>> Sincerely,
>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>>> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
>>> <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes Robin,
>>> Why is that so difficult to understand?
>>> I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for the 
>>> team I work with,
>>> And yes totally blind
>>> *From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On
>>>  Behalf Of*Robin
>>> *Sent:*Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM
>>> *To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> *Subject:*Re: New IPhone X and Setup.
>>> Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX
>>> By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
>>> Right???
>>> or
>>> Are you LowVision?
>>> 
>>> Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
>>> Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
>>> At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:
>>> 
>>>Hi All,
>>> 
>>>I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up
>>>today since I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple
>>>Accessibility to ask for assistance since I wanted to be sure
>>>everything went smoothly. The tech person did a screen sharing
>>>session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set up
>>>screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the
>>>screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held
>>>the 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.
>>> 
>>>For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most
>>>frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it
>>>kept requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found
>>>this added unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone.
>>>When the phone was finally up and running and I checked out
>>>settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.
>>> 
>>>During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go
>>>to an Apple store later in the week since I’ll need a new
>>>outerbox and screen protector so I think I’ll ask for assistance
>>>then in setting up the facial recognition. So far the phone seems
>>>lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of unlocking,
>>>going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem
>>>difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast
>>>and very responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where
>>>I’ll need to alter how I do things but as of now I am very happy
>>>with what I’m experiencing with this phone.
>>> 
>>>Eileen
>>> 
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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[E.T.]

   Perhaps its some blind people who don't have all the answers and go 
to those who are there to offer tech support. Why blame them for being 
helpful? Why waste your time being so critical? It serves no purpose.


From E.T.'s Keyboard. . .
"God for you is where you sweep away all the mysteries of the world,
all the challenges to our intelligence. You simply turn your mind off
and say God did it." --Carl Sagan (1934-1996), Contact
E-mail: ancient.ali...@icloud.com

On 12/5/2017 3:33 AM, Raymond Foret Jr wrote:
Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance 
what so ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals 
out there are trying to make us blind people think that a blind person 
cannot set up an iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people are 
trying to make the rest of us blind people think we cannot set up an 
iPhone X without the assistance of the all mighty sighted?  Well, all I 
have to say about that is BS!!!



Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
blind:


Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com 
<mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:


Yes Robin,
Why is that so difficult to understand?
I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for 
the team I work with,

And yes totally blind
*From:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]*On 
Behalf Of*Robin

*Sent:*Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM
*To:*macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>

*Subject:*Re: New IPhone X and Setup.
Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX
By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
Right???
or
Are you LowVision?

Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:

Hi All,

I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up
today since I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple
Accessibility to ask for assistance since I wanted to be sure
everything went smoothly. The tech person did a screen sharing
session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set up
screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the
screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held
the 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.

For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most
frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it
kept requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found
this added unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone.
When the phone was finally up and running and I checked out
settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.

During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go
to an Apple store later in the week since I’ll need a new
outerbox and screen protector so I think I’ll ask for assistance
then in setting up the facial recognition. So far the phone seems
lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of unlocking,
going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast
and very responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where
I’ll need to alter how I do things but as of now I am very happy
with what I’m experiencing with this phone.

Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Raymond Foret Jr]

Simon is correct.  I too set up my iPhone X with no sighted assistance what so 
ever.  Could it be that some stupid individual or individuals out there are 
trying to make us blind people think that a blind person cannot set up an 
iPhone X?  Dare I speculate that some blind people are trying to make the rest 
of us blind people think we cannot set up an iPhone X without the assistance of 
the all mighty sighted?  Well, all I have to say about that is BS!!!  


Sent from the only computer with built-in screen reader access for the blind:

Sincerely,

The constantly barefooted Ray

> On Dec 4, 2017, at 11:13 PM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes Robin,
>  
> Why is that so difficult to understand?
>  
> I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for the team 
> I work with,
> And yes totally blind
>  
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>  <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Robin
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.
>  
> Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX 
> By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
> Right???
> or
> Are you LowVision?
> 
> Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
> Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
> At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
>  
> I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since 
> I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask 
> for assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech 
> person did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new 
> phone wasn’t set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We 
> did the screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 
> 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10. 
>  
> For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most 
> frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept 
> requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found this added 
> unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone. When the phone was 
> finally up and running and I checked out settings, I found it was set to lock 
> after only 30 seconds.
>  
> During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
> store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector 
> so I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial 
> recognition. So far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to 
> new ways of unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which 
> don’t seem difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast 
> and very responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to 
> alter how I do things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m 
> experiencing with this phone.
>  
> Eileen
> 
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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[alia robinson]

Mine was having issues, and hubby, sons etc were pulling it out of my hands to 
help. I finally said let me deal with this, googled it, and found my error was 
because the cable I was using wasn’t good enough, got the cable that shipped 
with the unit and all was well, totally blind from birth. My husband can’t set 
up or fix my mac. Is an IT for windows, knows nothing about macs!

On Dec 5, 2017, at 12:13 AM, Simon Fogarty  wrote:

Yes Robin,
 
Why is that so difficult to understand?
 
I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for the team I 
work with,
And yes totally blind

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[Simon Fogarty]

Yes Robin,

Why is that so difficult to understand?

I also setup my own mac computers infact I setup iMacs at twork for the team I 
work with,
And yes totally blind

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Robin
Sent: Tuesday, 5 December 2017 6:12 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX
By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
Right???
or
Are you LowVision?

Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:

Hi All,

I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since I 
had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for 
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person 
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone 
wasn’t set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the 
screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 above 
the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.

For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most frustrating 
is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept requiring reentry of 
my pass code numerous times. I found this added unnecessarily to the time it 
took to set up the phone. When the phone was finally up and running and I 
checked out settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.

During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector 
so I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. 
So far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how 
I do things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with 
this phone.

Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Yes, I’m totally blind. Voice Over turned on immediately as soon as I did the 
rapid triple press on the side button. And then the Apple technician’s 
assistance since I called their Accessibility line, was able to see the screen 
on the 10 because I did screen sharing on the IPhone 6.


technically, I should have been able to place the older 6 next to the new 10 to 
just transfer my information/settings, but when I got to that screen I was only 
able to tap the setup manually button. The button for automatic setup did not 
show. This might have made the process faster, but at least its done and it 
went through pretty smoothly.

Eileen
Eileen

From: Robin 
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 12:11 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Wow! Independent Setup of Apple's iPhoneX 
By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
Right???
or
Are you LowVision?

Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:

  Hi All, 
   
  I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since 
I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for 
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person 
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone 
wasn’t set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the 
screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 above 
the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10. 
   
  For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most 
frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept requiring 
reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found this added unnecessarily to the 
time it took to set up the phone. When the phone was finally up and running and 
I checked out settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.
   
  During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector 
so I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. 
So far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how 
I do things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with 
this phone.
   
  Eileen

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[Robin]

Wow! Independent SetUp of Apple's iPhoneX
By TotallyBlind with ONLY PhoneAssistance
Right???
or
Are you LowVision?

Congratulations!! On YourPurchase of Apple's iPhoneX
Enjoy YourSelf & Your iPhoneX
At 06:23 PM 12/3/2017, you wrote:

Hi All,

I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided 
to do the set up today since I had a block of 
time to work on it. I did call Apple 
Accessibility to ask for assistance since I 
wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The 
tech person did a screen sharing session with me 
on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t set 
up screen sharing could not be done on the X 
directly. We did the screen sharing and he had 
me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 
above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.


For the most part, it worked out very well. The 
thing I found most frustrating is that the X 
would lock in a very short time and it kept 
requiring reentry of my pass code numerous 
times. I found this added unnecessarily to the 
time it took to set up the phone. When the phone 
was finally up and running and I checked out 
settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.


During setup I also skipped the facial 
recognition. I need to go to an Apple store 
later in the week since I’ll need a new 
outerbox and screen protector so I think I’ll 
ask for assistance then in setting up the facial 
recognition. So far the phone seems lovely and 
its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app 
switcher which don’t seem difficult at all. I 
am finding right now the phone is very fast and 
very responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other 
things where I’ll need to alter how I do 
things but as of now I am very happy with what 
I’m experiencing with this phone.


Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Eileen Scrivani]

Hi Donna,

Thanks for the pointers. I will give it a try later today after I get a few 
things taken care of around the house. When I did the set up yesterday, and the 
screen for face recognition came up I did try holding my arm out at around face 
level, but it didn’t seem to see my face. So for sanity’s sake I skipped over 
that part.

I remember one message from another person on this list, can’t remember who it 
was, but they did say they held the phone at some crazy angle. Hopefully I’ll 
get it working soon.

Eileen


From: Donna Goodin 
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2017 9:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

Hi Eileen, 

Glad your setup went well.

Setting up Face recognition isn't that hard.  The first time you do it, it may 
feel impossible, but if you pay close attention to what your phone is telling 
you, you can probably do it yourself with little trouble.  someone else posted 
on the list to remember to make small movements with your head.  That turned 
out to be very helpful.  I started with a small movement, and if that wasn't 
sufficient, the phone would say something like "Turn your head up."  I would 
then know that I needed to move it further in the direction the phone was 
indicating.

Just thought I'd mention this in case you want to give it a try.
Cheers,
Donna

  On Dec 3, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Eileen Scrivani <etscriv...@verizon.net> wrote:

  Hi All, 

  I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since 
I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask for 
assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech person 
did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new phone wasn’t 
set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We did the screen 
sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 6 above the 10 
and he was able to view the screen on the new 10. 

  For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most 
frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept requiring 
reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found this added unnecessarily to the 
time it took to set up the phone. When the phone was finally up and running and 
I checked out settings, I found it was set to lock after only 30 seconds.

  During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector so 
I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. So 
far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how I do 
things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with this phone.

  Eileen

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Re: New IPhone X and Setup.

[Donna Goodin]

Hi Eileen,

Glad your setup went well.

Setting up Face recognition isn't that hard.  The first time you do it, it may 
feel impossible, but if you pay close attention to what your phone is telling 
you, you can probably do it yourself with little trouble.  someone else posted 
on the list to remember to make small movements with your head.  That turned 
out to be very helpful.  I started with a small movement, and if that wasn't 
sufficient, the phone would say something like "Turn your head up."  I would 
then know that I needed to move it further in the direction the phone was 
indicating.

Just thought I'd mention this in case you want to give it a try.
Cheers,
Donna
> On Dec 3, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Eileen Scrivani  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
>  
> I got my IPhone X this past Thursday and decided to do the set up today since 
> I had a block of time to work on it. I did call Apple Accessibility to ask 
> for assistance since I wanted to be sure everything went smoothly. The tech 
> person did a screen sharing session with me on my IPhone 6 since the new 
> phone wasn’t set up screen sharing could not be done on the X directly. We 
> did the screen sharing and he had me launch the camera so in turn I held the 
> 6 above the 10 and he was able to view the screen on the new 10.
>  
> For the most part, it worked out very well. The thing I found most 
> frustrating is that the X would lock in a very short time and it kept 
> requiring reentry of my pass code numerous times. I found this added 
> unnecessarily to the time it took to set up the phone. When the phone was 
> finally up and running and I checked out settings, I found it was set to lock 
> after only 30 seconds.
>  
> During setup I also skipped the facial recognition. I need to go to an Apple 
> store later in the week since I’ll need a new outerbox and screen protector 
> so I think I’ll ask for assistance then in setting up the facial recognition. 
> So far the phone seems lovely and its a matter of getting use to new ways of 
> unlocking, going to the home screen and the app switcher which don’t seem 
> difficult at all. I am finding right now the phone is very fast and very 
> responsive. I’m sure I’ll find other things where I’ll need to alter how I do 
> things but as of now I am very happy with what I’m experiencing with this 
> phone.
>  
> Eileen
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Re: New Iphone 6s - volume

[Andy]

Hi David.

Thanks for that and boy do I not half a lot tolearn my friend.

I'll give it a go over the weekend and you never know, I may surprise 
myself, Ha!


Thanks again.

Very best wishes.
Andy.


From Scotland with Love.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Chittenden" <dchitten...@gmail.com>

To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: New Iphone 6s - volume


To go into control center, touch the status line at the top of the display 
(battery power, clock, and so forth), then perform a three finger swipe up.


Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone


On 7/07/2017, at 16:00, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi Chris.

Sorry for taking this long in accknowleging your message.  I'm currently 
half-way through my Guide Dog training.


I have saved your message to act on your advice during the weekend, but I 
don't know what the Control Center is or how to get there.


I know how to go to page 2 and 3 and even how to create new folders and 
sub-folders, but the Control Center is something I've not yet come 
accross?


As for the tactyle volume control function, I got that clear now, Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
From Scotland with Love.


- Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
<challswor...@icloud.com>

To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: New Iphone 6s - volume


Hello, I have a 6s, and the volume may feel like one button but is in fact 
there are two one above or below each other. You can always adjust the 
master volume in page 2 of Control Centre. The sound volume in settings > 
sounds, as I understand, controls the ringer and other audio.

On 5 Jul 2017, at 17:52, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi all.

I have very recently purchased a lovely new Iphone 6s.

The volume control on the top left seems only to be a single button and 
when I press it, the volume reduces.  I cannot get the volume up again or 
even know how to do this.


I can listen to tune-in radio fine, but when I rign a number I can hardly 
the rign-tone at the other end.


Can anyone tell me just how to use the new volume control as well as 
boosting the total volume to it's max


This is needed as I'm pretty deaf.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
From Scotland with Love.

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Re: New Iphone 6s - volume

[David Chittenden]

To go into control center, touch the status line at the top of the display 
(battery power, clock, and so forth), then perform a three finger swipe up.

Kind regards,

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +61 488 988 936
Sent from my iPhone

> On 7/07/2017, at 16:00, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris.
> 
> Sorry for taking this long in accknowleging your message.  I'm currently 
> half-way through my Guide Dog training.
> 
> I have saved your message to act on your advice during the weekend, but I 
> don't know what the Control Center is or how to get there.
> 
> I know how to go to page 2 and 3 and even how to create new folders and 
> sub-folders, but the Control Center is something I've not yet come accross?
> 
> As for the tactyle volume control function, I got that clear now, Thanks.
> 
> Very best wishes.
> 
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "christopher hallsworth" 
> <challswor...@icloud.com>
> To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 7:24 PM
> Subject: Re: New Iphone 6s - volume
> 
> 
> Hello, I have a 6s, and the volume may feel like one button but is in fact 
> there are two one above or below each other. You can always adjust the master 
> volume in page 2 of Control Centre. The sound volume in settings > sounds, as 
> I understand, controls the ringer and other audio.
>> On 5 Jul 2017, at 17:52, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> 
>> I have very recently purchased a lovely new Iphone 6s.
>> 
>> The volume control on the top left seems only to be a single button and when 
>> I press it, the volume reduces.  I cannot get the volume up again or even 
>> know how to do this.
>> 
>> I can listen to tune-in radio fine, but when I rign a number I can hardly 
>> the rign-tone at the other end.
>> 
>> Can anyone tell me just how to use the new volume control as well as 
>> boosting the total volume to it's max
>> 
>> This is needed as I'm pretty deaf.
>> 
>> Very best wishes.
>> 
>> Andy.
>> From Scotland with Love.
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Re: New Iphone 6s - volume

[Andy]

Hi Scott.
Sorry for taking this long in replying to your message.  I'm currently being 
trained with a lovely big Guide Dog and I'm absolutely shattered every evening, 
haha.

I'll save your message along with the nice one I also got from Chris and get 
assistance if necessary, over the weekend to set my phone up just right.

Incidently, As a Scot myself, who's country has been totally excluded from the 
Irish and British  Lions, I'm supporting New Z tomorrow morning.

I hope you hammer them for having the arogence and anty-scottish views they so 
obviously have.

Sorry about that.  I'm angry.  Particularly because we did very well, for a 
small country of 6 milion, during the 6 nations!  And If we are indeed part of 
Britain, we should have had at least 8 or 10 players on that flight!

Very best wishes.

Andy.
>From Scotland with Love.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Granados 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 6:41 PM
  Subject: Re: New Iphone 6s - volume


  Hi, the volume is actually two buttons on the left hand side assuming the 
face of the phone is towards you with the round home button towards the bottom. 
 On the upper right side will be a single button for locking the screen and 
opposite these will be 3 controls, up, down and mute which is a switch.  


  To set the volumes, while you hear audio like voice over press up to increase 
and down to decrease.  To turn up your call audio, while on the call press up 
volume which controls the phone audio separately.  Also, set the ringer volume 
the same way pressing up or down while the phone is ringing.


  Hope that helps.


On Jul 5, 2017, at 12:52 PM, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:


Hi all.

I have very recently purchased a lovely new Iphone 6s.

The volume control on the top left seems only to be a single button and 
when I press it, the volume reduces.  I cannot get the volume up again or even 
know how to do this.

I can listen to tune-in radio fine, but when I rign a number I can hardly 
the rign-tone at the other end.

Can anyone tell me just how to use the new volume control as well as 
boosting the total volume to it's max

This is needed as I'm pretty deaf.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
From Scotland with Love.


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Re: New Iphone 6s - volume

[Andy]

Hi Chris.

Sorry for taking this long in accknowleging your message.  I'm currently 
half-way through my Guide Dog training.


I have saved your message to act on your advice during the weekend, but I 
don't know what the Control Center is or how to get there.


I know how to go to page 2 and 3 and even how to create new folders and 
sub-folders, but the Control Center is something I've not yet come accross?


As for the tactyle volume control function, I got that clear now, Thanks.

Very best wishes.

Andy.

From Scotland with Love.



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From: "christopher hallsworth" <challswor...@icloud.com>

To: "Macvisionaries" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2017 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: New Iphone 6s - volume


Hello, I have a 6s, and the volume may feel like one button but is in fact 
there are two one above or below each other. You can always adjust the 
master volume in page 2 of Control Centre. The sound volume in settings > 
sounds, as I understand, controls the ringer and other audio.

On 5 Jul 2017, at 17:52, Andy <meikle.ai...@btinternet.com> wrote:

Hi all.

I have very recently purchased a lovely new Iphone 6s.

The volume control on the top left seems only to be a single button and 
when I press it, the volume reduces.  I cannot get the volume up again or 
even know how to do this.


I can listen to tune-in radio fine, but when I rign a number I can hardly 
the rign-tone at the other end.


Can anyone tell me just how to use the new volume control as well as 
boosting the total volume to it's max


This is needed as I'm pretty deaf.

Very best wishes.

Andy.
From Scotland with Love.

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Re: New Iphone 6s - volume

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, I have a 6s, and the volume may feel like one button but is in fact 
there are two one above or below each other. You can always adjust the master 
volume in page 2 of Control Centre. The sound volume in settings > sounds, as I 
understand, controls the ringer and other audio.
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> know how to do this.
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>  
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>  
> This is needed as I'm pretty deaf.
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Re: New Iphone 6s - volume

[Scott Granados]

Hi, the volume is actually two buttons on the left hand side assuming the face 
of the phone is towards you with the round home button towards the bottom.  On 
the upper right side will be a single button for locking the screen and 
opposite these will be 3 controls, up, down and mute which is a switch.  

To set the volumes, while you hear audio like voice over press up to increase 
and down to decrease.  To turn up your call audio, while on the call press up 
volume which controls the phone audio separately.  Also, set the ringer volume 
the same way pressing up or down while the phone is ringing.

Hope that helps.

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>  
> I have very recently purchased a lovely new Iphone 6s.
>  
> The volume control on the top left seems only to be a single button and when 
> I press it, the volume reduces.  I cannot get the volume up again or even 
> know how to do this.
>  
> I can listen to tune-in radio fine, but when I rign a number I can hardly the 
> rign-tone at the other end.
>  
> Can anyone tell me just how to use the new volume control as well as boosting 
> the total volume to it's max
>  
> This is needed as I'm pretty deaf.
>  
> Very best wishes.
>  
> Andy.
> From Scotland with Love.
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Re: new iPhone

[Scott Davert]

Hi Gabe.
Unless I'm mistaken, you will not be able to use the 4s SIM card in
your 5S without manipulating it. This is because the card in the 4S is
a Micro SIM, and the one in the 5S is a nano-sim.

Scott

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> you can use the radio and phone as you want.  That’s again weak sauce ™.
>
> If it’s just a connection issue as someone mentioned then why can’t a
> software or even physical bypass switch be included?  Besides it may cost a
> half penny to include?  I think I just answered my own question.
>
>
>
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> I think AppleSIM is presently a dual-use option on iPad only at the moment.
> It’s a nice idea and apparently does help in certain cases where the
> alternative is full-on international roaming charges (but still not quite as
> cost-effective as buying local, obviously).
>
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> meaningless for an unlocked device.  You should just be able to insert a SIM
> card, or not, according to preference, and configure any parameters yourself
> if the phone doesn’t know about them directly.  I could do it on my Nokia
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Re: new iPhone

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Absolutely agreed, unlocked should mean unlocked to the network.  It shouldn’t 
mean you’re sort of unlocked, you need to have a SIM but otherwise you can use 
the radio and phone as you want.  That’s again weak sauce ™.

If it’s just a connection issue as someone mentioned then why can’t a software 
or even physical bypass switch be included?  Besides it may cost a half penny 
to include?  I think I just answered my own question.



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I think AppleSIM is presently a dual-use option on iPad only at the moment.  
It’s a nice idea and apparently does help in certain cases where the 
alternative is full-on international roaming charges (but still not quite as 
cost-effective as buying local, obviously).

But really, yeah, it’s just stupid.  The whole notion of “Activation” is 
meaningless for an unlocked device.  You should just be able to insert a SIM 
card, or not, according to preference, and configure any parameters yourself if 
the phone doesn’t know about them directly.  I could do it on my Nokia E51, for 
heaven’s sake; why not on the iPhone?

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Re: new iPhone

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

I think AppleSIM is presently a dual-use option on iPad only at the moment.  
It’s a nice idea and apparently does help in certain cases where the 
alternative is full-on international roaming charges (but still not quite as 
cost-effective as buying local, obviously).

But really, yeah, it’s just stupid.  The whole notion of “Activation” is 
meaningless for an unlocked device.  You should just be able to insert a SIM 
card, or not, according to preference, and configure any parameters yourself if 
the phone doesn’t know about them directly.  I could do it on my Nokia E51, for 
heaven’s sake; why not on the iPhone?

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Re: new iPhone

[Scott Granados]

Depends on the device but yes my experience is that Android does not need a SIM 
present for initial setup.  I can’t speak to all devices though there are so 
many.  I have see this on the Samsung S5 specifically.

Isn’t apple working on or recently just patented a software based SIM option 
that’s cardless?


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Ditto. I think in the future iPhones should be able to be activated without a 
sim card, as after all other smartphones can. Hate to say this but Android 
smartphones can apparently be set up without a sim. I have no proof though.
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Re: new iPhone

[Scott Granados]

Wow, I did not know  about this limitation.  This in my opinion is weak sauce 
(tm).  Shouldn’t matter what carrier if any is installed.

I’ve got a pile of T-Mobile sims that will fit if the original poster needs one.

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Alas, no.  You need a SIM card, just to get it set up.  You can operate without 
afterwards, and any SIM card will do—even one without service—as long as it’s 
an iOS-recognised network.

No, I don’t know why this is either; activation demographics is my best guess.  
But seeing as how an iPod Touch can be set up without a SIM card, well, I don’t 
see why the phone shouldn’t, either.

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Re: new iPhone

[Scott Granados]

That is not a stupid question, the only stupid questions are the ones left 
unasked.  Especially on a list like this do not ever feel ashamed or uneasy 
about asking a related question, we’re here to help.  Anyone who picks on 
someone inexperienced asking well formed questions like this is a troll in my 
opinion.:)

To answer your question, attach your phone to the computer and you should see 
the phone show up in the devices list.  If you select the phone and then arrow 
to the right you’ll see a scroll area you interact with that contains specifics 
about the phone including it’s firmware version and capacity.  Arrowing over 
more you’ll see a button for accessibility, press it, enable voice over with in 
this menu and apply.  Vo should start talking right away.  Once enabled you 
then want to go to, on the phone itself, settings, general, accessibility, 
accessibility short cut and make sure that triple press home is set to voice 
over so you can activate and deactivate as needed.

How’s that?



On 6/25/16, 2:30 PM, "Gabe Griffith"  wrote:

Hi,

I have honestly never used the iTunes method so didn't even think of that. A 
stupid question, where in iTunes do I look to do this?

Thanks,

Gabe


On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

> Worse comes to worse, use iTunes to configure this.
> 
> You’ll want to connect your iPHone to your Mac and then go from there.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box 
>> and plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't 
>> seem to get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, 
>> I've tried (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a 
>> home power reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have 
>> worked. 
>> 
>> Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up this 
>> phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a phone right 
>> now but would like to get everything configured and have it working just in 
>> case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at least be able to use 
>> it as an iPod for now.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> gabe
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RE: new iPhone

[Simon Fogarty]

No, you have to insert a sim, even a blank one will work it's just to make the 
connection it doesn't need to be live 

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Subject: Re: new iPhone

Thanks. I found it but I now have another dumb question. iTunes says there is 
no SIM  card in the phone and that I need to disconnect it, insert a SIM card 
and reconnect it. Is there a way to set it up as an iPod without having to have 
a SIM card?

Thanks,

Gabe


On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:

> When you connect your phone to iTunes, you will notice an area where it 
> specifically says “iphone” or something like that.  You’ll just have to 
> explore until you find it.  Should be real easy to find.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
> blind built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, 
> Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Gabe Griffith <gabrielgriff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have honestly never used the iTunes method so didn't even think of that. A 
>> stupid question, where in iTunes do I look to do this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gabe
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Worse comes to worse, use iTunes to configure this.
>>> 
>>> You’ll want to connect your iPHone to your Mac and then go from there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>> blind built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, 
>>> Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Gabe Griffith <gabrielgriff...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box 
>>>> and plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't 
>>>> seem to get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, 
>>>> I've tried (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a 
>>>> home power reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have 
>>>> worked. 
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up this 
>>>> phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a phone 
>>>> right now but would like to get everything configured and have it working 
>>>> just in case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at least be 
>>>> able to use it as an iPod for now.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> gabe
>>>> 
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Re: new iPhone

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi all,

Thank you for the answers. I have found my old 4S and am now in the process of 
trying to figure out how to open the stupid sim slot to transfer that sim from 
there to the new 5S. You wouldn't think that it would be that difficult to poke 
a paper clip or stylus in to the hole and open the slot.

Gabe


On Jun 25, 2016, at 2:08 PM, christopher hallsworth  
wrote:

> Ditto. I think in the future iPhones should be able to be activated without a 
> sim card, as after all other smartphones can. Hate to say this but Android 
> smartphones can apparently be set up without a sim. I have no proof though.
>> On 25 Jun 2016, at 20:20, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
>> 
>> Alas, no.  You need a SIM card, just to get it set up.  You can operate 
>> without afterwards, and any SIM card will do—even one without service—as 
>> long as it’s an iOS-recognised network.
>> 
>> No, I don’t know why this is either; activation demographics is my best 
>> guess.  But seeing as how an iPod Touch can be set up without a SIM card, 
>> well, I don’t see why the phone shouldn’t, either.
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Re: new iPhone

[christopher hallsworth]

Ditto. I think in the future iPhones should be able to be activated without a 
sim card, as after all other smartphones can. Hate to say this but Android 
smartphones can apparently be set up without a sim. I have no proof though.
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 20:20, Sabahattin Gucukoglu  wrote:
> 
> Alas, no.  You need a SIM card, just to get it set up.  You can operate 
> without afterwards, and any SIM card will do—even one without service—as long 
> as it’s an iOS-recognised network.
> 
> No, I don’t know why this is either; activation demographics is my best 
> guess.  But seeing as how an iPod Touch can be set up without a SIM card, 
> well, I don’t see why the phone shouldn’t, either.
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Re: new iPhone

[Anders Holmberg]

Hi!
You first need a sim-card in the phone.
Then you could try to connect it to your computer and set it up via Itunes.
/A
> On 25 Jun 2016, at 20:18, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box and 
> plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't seem to 
> get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, I've tried 
> (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a home power 
> reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have worked. 
> 
> Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up this 
> phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a phone right 
> now but would like to get everything configured and have it working just in 
> case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at least be able to use 
> it as an iPod for now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> gabe
> 
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Re: new iPhone

[Sabahattin Gucukoglu]

Alas, no.  You need a SIM card, just to get it set up.  You can operate without 
afterwards, and any SIM card will do—even one without service—as long as it’s 
an iOS-recognised network.

No, I don’t know why this is either; activation demographics is my best guess.  
But seeing as how an iPod Touch can be set up without a SIM card, well, I don’t 
see why the phone shouldn’t, either.

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Re: new iPhone

[Ray Foret jr]

Can’t help there.


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> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:48 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. I found it but I now have another dumb question. iTunes says there is 
> no SIM  card in the phone and that I need to disconnect it, insert a SIM card 
> and reconnect it. Is there a way to set it up as an iPod without having to 
> have a SIM card?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
>> When you connect your phone to iTunes, you will notice an area where it 
>> specifically says “iphone” or something like that.  You’ll just have to 
>> explore until you find it.  Should be real easy to find.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Gabe Griffith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have honestly never used the iTunes method so didn't even think of that. 
>>> A stupid question, where in iTunes do I look to do this?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Gabe
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>>> 
 Worse comes to worse, use iTunes to configure this.
 
 You’ll want to connect your iPHone to your Mac and then go from there.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in
 
 Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
 
> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Gabe Griffith  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box 
> and plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't 
> seem to get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, 
> I've tried (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a 
> home power reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have 
> worked. 
> 
> Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up 
> this phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a 
> phone right now but would like to get everything configured and have it 
> working just in case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at 
> least be able to use it as an iPod for now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> gabe
> 
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Re: new iPhone

[Gabe Griffith]

Thanks. I found it but I now have another dumb question. iTunes says there is 
no SIM  card in the phone and that I need to disconnect it, insert a SIM card 
and reconnect it. Is there a way to set it up as an iPod without having to have 
a SIM card?

Thanks,

Gabe


On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:44 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

> When you connect your phone to iTunes, you will notice an area where it 
> specifically says “iphone” or something like that.  You’ll just have to 
> explore until you find it.  Should be real easy to find.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have honestly never used the iTunes method so didn't even think of that. A 
>> stupid question, where in iTunes do I look to do this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gabe
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
>> 
>>> Worse comes to worse, use iTunes to configure this.
>>> 
>>> You’ll want to connect your iPHone to your Mac and then go from there.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>> built-in
>>> 
>>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>>> 
 On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Gabe Griffith  
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box 
 and plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't 
 seem to get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, 
 I've tried (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a 
 home power reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have 
 worked. 
 
 Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up this 
 phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a phone 
 right now but would like to get everything configured and have it working 
 just in case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at least be 
 able to use it as an iPod for now.
 
 Thanks,
 
 gabe
 
 
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Re: new iPhone

[Ray Foret jr]

When you connect your phone to iTunes, you will notice an area where it 
specifically says “iphone” or something like that.  You’ll just have to explore 
until you find it.  Should be real easy to find.


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built-in

Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!

> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have honestly never used the iTunes method so didn't even think of that. A 
> stupid question, where in iTunes do I look to do this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gabe
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:
> 
>> Worse comes to worse, use iTunes to configure this.
>> 
>> You’ll want to connect your iPHone to your Mac and then go from there.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>> built-in
>> 
>> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
>> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
>> 
>>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Gabe Griffith  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box 
>>> and plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't 
>>> seem to get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, 
>>> I've tried (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a 
>>> home power reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have 
>>> worked. 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up this 
>>> phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a phone right 
>>> now but would like to get everything configured and have it working just in 
>>> case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at least be able to use 
>>> it as an iPod for now.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> gabe
>>> 
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Re: new iPhone

[Gabe Griffith]

Hi,

I have honestly never used the iTunes method so didn't even think of that. A 
stupid question, where in iTunes do I look to do this?

Thanks,

Gabe


On Jun 25, 2016, at 11:24 AM, Ray Foret jr  wrote:

> Worse comes to worse, use iTunes to configure this.
> 
> You’ll want to connect your iPHone to your Mac and then go from there.
> 
> 
> Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
> built-in
> 
> Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!
> 
>> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box 
>> and plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't 
>> seem to get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, 
>> I've tried (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a 
>> home power reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have 
>> worked. 
>> 
>> Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up this 
>> phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a phone right 
>> now but would like to get everything configured and have it working just in 
>> case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at least be able to use 
>> it as an iPod for now.
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>> 
>> gabe
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Re: new iPhone

[Ray Foret jr]

Worse comes to worse, use iTunes to configure this.

You’ll want to connect your iPHone to your Mac and then go from there.


Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in

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> On Jun 25, 2016, at 1:18 PM, Gabe Griffith  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I just got a new unlocked iPhone 5S in the mail. I took it out of the box and 
> plugged it in. I can hear the swoosh of it getting power but I can't seem to 
> get VO to come on. I've tried a tripple click of the home button, I've tried 
> (without success) to get seri to turn VO on, and I've tried a home power 
> reset to see if VO would come on for me but none of these have worked. 
> 
> Does anyone have any idea how I can get VO to come on so I can set up this 
> phone by myself? I am not necessarily planning on using it as a phone right 
> now but would like to get everything configured and have it working just in 
> case I ever do want to activate it. I would like to at least be able to use 
> it as an iPod for now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> gabe
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Re: new iPhone user

[Shawn Krasniuk]

Hi Max. Welcome to the fun world of iOS. For me I use the native Facebook app 
for Facebook. Can't tell you about Twitter because I save that for when I'm on 
my Mac. As for Sirius XM, I use Radium. People say that the native Sirius XM 
app has improved in terms of accessibility, but I like the simplicity of 
Radium. If you don't need all the stuff that the native app provides like My 
SXM and on demand programming, then Radium should be enough for you. Also for 
Trivia Crack, you can purchase an ad free app inside the app. I can't remember 
where it was since I bought it already, but it's there.

Shawn
Sent from my White MacBook



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 hello group; just got an iPhone last week. have been very happy with it so 
 far. also got a bluetooth keyboard. i am wondering what apps people are using 
 for twitter and face book. I'm also wondering about your experience with 
 sirius on iPhone. finally are there any other apps you have used that you 
 would recommend for getting more use or enjoyment out of my iPhone? thanks, 
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Re: new iPhone user

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi Max
Yes, I recommend Blind square. Adds more blind friendly features to GPS 
programs.
Gigi

Sent from my iPhone

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 hello group; just got an iPhone last week. have been very happy with it so 
 far. also got a bluetooth keyboard. i am wondering what apps people are using 
 for twitter and face book. I'm also wondering about your experience with 
 sirius on iPhone. finally are there any other apps you have used that you 
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Re: new iPhone user

[Alex Hall]

Congratulations! I'm glad to hear you're already enjoying the iPhone; some 
people who get it with the expectation of loving it straight away end up 
struggling for a while before they get the hang of things.

For Facebook, your best bet is the official Facebook app. It's not perfect, but 
it works. Their other apps--Messenger, Rooms, and Stories--are also accessible.

Twitter has an accessible, official app too, but I prefer third-party ones. 
Twitterrific is really nice, and is currently my primary app. Tweetings has 
some cool features and is worth a look, and I've heard that TweetLogix 
(possibly not spelled correctly) is another good option.

As for other apps, that all depends on what you're looking for: games, word 
processors, book readers, social networking, navigation, money identifying, bar 
code readers, object identifiers, light detectors, and plenty more. As always, 
I highly recommend www.applevis.com http://www.applevis.com/, specifically 
the page for new iOS users, as a great place to start. Personally, the apps 
that pop into my head right off the bat are:

* Voice Dream Reader, for reading just about any text/audio book or file that 
isn't encrypted. This includes Bookshare, Instapaper, Dropbox, and plenty more, 
all built into the app, and you can use third-party voices from the likes of 
Ivona Neospeech, and others to read.
* Dice World is a collection of six dice games, and is beyond accessible.
* Lire is an RSS reader with tons of great features, and is so accessible the 
developer has a section in the app's settings for VO users to decide what 
information to hear when reviewing article lists.
* Red Laser is a free bar code reader that works really well, once you get the 
hang of it.
* Downcast or Overcast are two nice apps for handling podcasts. I use Downcast, 
but I've heard great things about Overcast as well.
* Carrit Fit, Carrot Hunger, and Carrot Weather are all fun apps. Fit and 
Hunger are for exercise and calorie tracking, respectively, and Weather is (not 
surprisingly) a weather app. All three are fully accessible.

Anyway, AppleVis has a lot more information, including an entire page of apps 
we recommend for new iOS users.
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 hello group; just got an iPhone last week. have been very happy with it so 
 far. also got a bluetooth keyboard. i am wondering what apps people are using 
 for twitter and face book. I'm also wondering about your experience with 
 sirius on iPhone. finally are there any other apps you have used that you 
 would recommend for getting more use or enjoyment out of my iPhone? thanks, 
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Re: new iPhone user

['Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries]

hi alex; well i expect that the iPhone will do more than the phone i had. but i 
generally try to keep my expectations low when it comes to new hardware or 
software. your reply was very comprehensive. I appreciate it and will save the 
email. i have had fun playing trivia crack although i hate the ads. and i'd 
love it if the rs games had an iPhone version. i love their versions of uno and 
monopoly. will check out the link and the apps and get back to you, max 
On Apr 18, 2015, at 11:01 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

 Congratulations! I'm glad to hear you're already enjoying the iPhone; some 
 people who get it with the expectation of loving it straight away end up 
 struggling for a while before they get the hang of things.
 
 For Facebook, your best bet is the official Facebook app. It's not perfect, 
 but it works. Their other apps--Messenger, Rooms, and Stories--are also 
 accessible.
 
 Twitter has an accessible, official app too, but I prefer third-party ones. 
 Twitterrific is really nice, and is currently my primary app. Tweetings has 
 some cool features and is worth a look, and I've heard that TweetLogix 
 (possibly not spelled correctly) is another good option.
 
 As for other apps, that all depends on what you're looking for: games, word 
 processors, book readers, social networking, navigation, money identifying, 
 bar code readers, object identifiers, light detectors, and plenty more. As 
 always, I highly recommend www.applevis.com, specifically the page for new 
 iOS users, as a great place to start. Personally, the apps that pop into my 
 head right off the bat are:
 
 * Voice Dream Reader, for reading just about any text/audio book or file that 
 isn't encrypted. This includes Bookshare, Instapaper, Dropbox, and plenty 
 more, all built into the app, and you can use third-party voices from the 
 likes of Ivona Neospeech, and others to read.
 * Dice World is a collection of six dice games, and is beyond accessible.
 * Lire is an RSS reader with tons of great features, and is so accessible the 
 developer has a section in the app's settings for VO users to decide what 
 information to hear when reviewing article lists.
 * Red Laser is a free bar code reader that works really well, once you get 
 the hang of it.
 * Downcast or Overcast are two nice apps for handling podcasts. I use 
 Downcast, but I've heard great things about Overcast as well.
 * Carrit Fit, Carrot Hunger, and Carrot Weather are all fun apps. Fit and 
 Hunger are for exercise and calorie tracking, respectively, and Weather is 
 (not surprisingly) a weather app. All three are fully accessible.
 
 Anyway, AppleVis has a lot more information, including an entire page of apps 
 we recommend for new iOS users.
 On Apr 18, 2015, at 11:36 PM, 'Maxwell Ivey' via MacVisionaries 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 hello group; just got an iPhone last week. have been very happy with it so 
 far. also got a bluetooth keyboard. i am wondering what apps people are 
 using for twitter and face book. I'm also wondering about your experience 
 with sirius on iPhone. finally are there any other apps you have used that 
 you would recommend for getting more use or enjoyment out of my iPhone? 
 thanks, max 
 
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Re: new iPhone user question

[Eugenia Firth]

Hi there 
When you set up your email, you should only have to put in password for A T  T 
email one time when you set it up. You should not be asked to put in your 
password while you are on a call. Have you tried to restart your phone and see 
if this stops? I have been asked for my password after I updated to 8.3 IOS. 
That happened to me when I was in Music but not on a call. Once I got it in 
there, it didn’t ask me again. I hope this helps. 

Gigi 
a 
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 Hello List,
 
   Well, I've been following all of your posts for quite a while.  Now, I have 
 made the plunge.  I just bought a macbook pro and an iPhone 5s. Here is my 
 first question that I haven't been able to find an answer for.  I have att 
 for my cell carrier.  When I try to access my email I am asked to input my 
 password.  While I am in a call nothing is spoken on the screen.  So, how do 
 I either input my password, or how to I get the phone to save and input it 
 automatically?  I hope this is not to confusing to understand.  I appreciate 
 your thoughts.  I am enjoying using the mac book pro as well.
 
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Re: new iPhone user question

[Tyler Thompson]

Under settings  mail, contacts, calendars  select your account  select your 
email address  go to the password section and type yours in, it should now 
save 

Sent from my iPhone

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   Well, I've been following all of your posts for quite a while.  Now, I have 
 made the plunge.  I just bought a macbook pro and an iPhone 5s. Here is my 
 first question that I haven't been able to find an answer for.  I have att 
 for my cell carrier.  When I try to access my email I am asked to input my 
 password.  While I am in a call nothing is spoken on the screen.  So, how do 
 I either input my password, or how to I get the phone to save and input it 
 automatically?  I hope this is not to confusing to understand.  I appreciate 
 your thoughts.  I am enjoying using the mac book pro as well.
 
 Terry Sanders
 
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RE: new iphone update first impression

[Dave Taylor]

Hi,

I had started to experience this with 4.0.2 in the past couple of days, and
hadn't changed any settings either. Using phonetics at least the phonetic
always speaks.

Cheers
Dave


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:23 AM
To: MacVisionaries
Subject: new iphone update first impression

hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
accessibility with these findings.

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RE: new iphone update first impression

[Dave Taylor]

This seems to be a problem with speaking rate at 75 or over. Cut to below 70
and it will be noticeably better. Think it might be a voice thing but will
be contacting them.

Cheers
Dave


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[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christy Schulte
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Subject: Re: new iphone update first impression

Hm, my letters are reading ok, but I am noticing that some of the speech is 
cutting off slightly prematurely. Not enough to make it unusable, but enough

to be annoying. It's like on some things, the very last syllable gets cut in

half, is the best way I know to describe it. With letters, it's not always 
doing this, but sometimes it does, making telling the difference between say

an M and an N rather difficult.

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To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: new iphone update first impression


 hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
 that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
 letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
 letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
 accessibility with these findings.

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Re: new iphone update first impression

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hi!

This has been the case for non-English languages for quite some time, ever 
since IOS 4 was released. It has unfortunately become a lot worse in IOS 4.1, 
apparently. I tried spelling out a full word of eight letters, and none of them 
were pronounced including phonetics. I'm quite angry about this, really. Only 
the US speech seems to be ok in this regard, I suppose.

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On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I had started to experience this with 4.0.2 in the past couple of days, and
 hadn't changed any settings either. Using phonetics at least the phonetic
 always speaks.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 
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 Subject: new iphone update first impression
 
 hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
 that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
 letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
 letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
 accessibility with these findings.
 
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Re: new iphone update first impression

[Sarah Alawami]

I use british and australian english with no problems. all of my letters speak 
and spelling works great.
On Sep 9, 2010, at 1:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

 Hi!
 
 This has been the case for non-English languages for quite some time, ever 
 since IOS 4 was released. It has unfortunately become a lot worse in IOS 4.1, 
 apparently. I tried spelling out a full word of eight letters, and none of 
 them were pronounced including phonetics. I'm quite angry about this, really. 
 Only the US speech seems to be ok in this regard, I suppose.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
 GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com
 Facebook
 Twitter
 Skype: Kvalme
 MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
 Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
 AIM: cincinster
 
 On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I had started to experience this with 4.0.2 in the past couple of days, and
 hadn't changed any settings either. Using phonetics at least the phonetic
 always speaks.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 
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 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:23 AM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: new iphone update first impression
 
 hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
 that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
 letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
 letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
 accessibility with these findings.
 
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Re: new iphone update first impression

[Nicolai Svendsen]

Hello again,

Whatever, then. They obviously fixed that, in that case. My point still stands, 
though, as it applies to either all other languages or most of them. Or course, 
I can't test all of them but by the sound of it, it's widely spread. And it's a 
pretty big concern. Perhaps not to people who use the English voices, perhaps, 
but for international users it's a pretty big issue unless you have a keyboard 
and don't think you need to delete, have a little sight to see what the heck 
you're writing or third...just take a chance when using the on-screen keyboard.

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On Sep 9, 2010, at 2:45 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 I use british and australian english with no problems. all of my letters 
 speak and spelling works great.
 On Sep 9, 2010, at 1:17 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 This has been the case for non-English languages for quite some time, ever 
 since IOS 4 was released. It has unfortunately become a lot worse in IOS 
 4.1, apparently. I tried spelling out a full word of eight letters, and none 
 of them were pronounced including phonetics. I'm quite angry about this, 
 really. Only the US speech seems to be ok in this regard, I suppose.
 
 Regards,
 Nic
 Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
 GoogleTalk: chojiro1...@gmail.com
 Facebook
 Twitter
 Skype: Kvalme
 MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
 Yahoo! Messenger: cin368
 AIM: cincinster
 
 On Sep 9, 2010, at 9:51 AM, Dave Taylor wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I had started to experience this with 4.0.2 in the past couple of days, and
 hadn't changed any settings either. Using phonetics at least the phonetic
 always speaks.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of joseph
 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 2:23 AM
 To: MacVisionaries
 Subject: new iphone update first impression
 
 hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
 that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
 letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
 letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
 accessibility with these findings.
 
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Re: new iphone update first impression

[Sarah Alawami]

I thought htye had that fixed? I heard complaining from several beta testers 
about this but yeah email apple access about this.

Take care.

S
On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:22 PM, joseph wrote:

 hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
 that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
 letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
 letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
 accessibility with these findings.
 
 best
 
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Re: new iphone update first impression

[Joel Zimba]

can you post  the exact steps to replicate this?  I'm not having any trouble at 
all.


thanks,

Joel

On Sep 8, 2010, at 9:28 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

 I thought htye had that fixed? I heard complaining from several beta testers 
 about this but yeah email apple access about this.
 
 Take care.
 
 S
 On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:22 PM, joseph wrote:
 
 hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
 that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
 letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
 letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
 accessibility with these findings.
 
 best
 
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Re: new iphone update first impression

[Christy Schulte]

Hm, my letters are reading ok, but I am noticing that some of the speech is 
cutting off slightly prematurely. Not enough to make it unusable, but enough 
to be annoying. It's like on some things, the very last syllable gets cut in 
half, is the best way I know to describe it. With letters, it's not always 
doing this, but sometimes it does, making telling the difference between say 
an M and an N rather difficult.


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Subject: new iphone update first impression



hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
accessibility with these findings.

best

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Re: new iphone update first impression

[Ricardo Walker]

Hi,

Yes I'm having the same behavior.  I think the update increased the speech 
rate.  I noticed the speech was a bit faster.  I lowered the rate and that 
solved the problem.

hth
On Sep 9, 2010, at 12:01 AM, Christy Schulte wrote:

 Hm, my letters are reading ok, but I am noticing that some of the speech is 
 cutting off slightly prematurely. Not enough to make it unusable, but enough 
 to be annoying. It's like on some things, the very last syllable gets cut in 
 half, is the best way I know to describe it. With letters, it's not always 
 doing this, but sometimes it does, making telling the difference between say 
 an M and an N rather difficult.
 
 - Original Message - From: joseph sh5...@gmail.com
 To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 8:22 PM
 Subject: new iphone update first impression
 
 
 hi listers, after downloading the newest iphone update i discovered
 that when typing text, voice over does not announce some of the
 letters needed to type, so if you don't have a good memory of the
 letters layout on the keyboard, you are in trouble.  i would email
 accessibility with these findings.
 
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