Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Harry Watkins
I bought a transmission rebuild video for a 722.315.  I watched about 1/3 of
it and haven't took the time to finish.  From what I saw, I would make the
attempt.

The video was put out by D.T. Charnews (2004) and it struck me that he was
in his garage doing things just like I do, but, doing a good job of showing
and describing details.  I can't remember what I paid, but I think it was
about $30.

Harry Watkins
Newton, MS
86 SDL Silver
85 300D Euro
86 SDL Gold
81 240D manual trans

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[MBZ] Bio-Diesel on Discovery

2005-12-07 Thread l02turner
Tonight (12/6) at 8PM (ET) on The Discovery Channel is a repeat of the 
Dirty Jobs program showing a guy powering stuff using WVO.  He processes 
it with a garage full of stuff which he says costs about 11 cents/gallon.


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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Peter Frederick
I would add that MB transmissions rarely fail before 250,000 miles if 
maintained, so you have wear on the gear train and clutch drums much 
more so that in a GM, which usually bites the dust at around 100,000.


The result is that you must check ALL the parts, not just slap in a new 
set of frictions and seals.  That will fix a GM or Ford right up, but 
the MB trannies normally have things like worn planetary thrust washers 
that MUST be replaced or the tranny will be noisy and or not work 
right.  Typically, if I remember correctly, at least one of the drums 
and all three bands must be replaced, the gear sets usually need 
rebuilding, and the pumps often require replacement due to wear.


Peter




[MBZ] The ongoing 190D adventure

2005-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond
So this morning I thought I'd take the 190D to work for its first shake out 
run. It started fine at 25F but as soon as I pulled out I knew something was 
up, the engine wouldn't rev above about 2000 rpm (working tach, yay!) while the 
clutch was engaged and the car could barely move itself in 2nd gear. I didn't 
have any time to mess with it so I parked it again and took Hammie to work.
  On the way to work I got thinking that maybe the car had sat for awhile and 
still had some summer fuel in it. It had run good when I picked it up but it 
was in the 30s that day. So on my way home I stopped and bought a bottle of 
Diesel Kleen, my favorite diesel additive. 1 bottle is supposed to treat 50 
gallons, the gauge in the car reads 1/4, I figure thats maybe 5 gallons. I put 
in the whole bottle, went inside to drop off my bag and change into some 
working clothes. Then I drove the car up and down the driveway of my apartment 
complex. We live on a pretty good hill and the first time up it was 1st gear 
all the way with it bucking and spitting at 2k. Downhill things were of course 
better but I kept it in 1st to keep the revs up. I let it idle a minute at the 
bottom and then repeated. After a couple trips I could get up to 3k although 
there was noticable hesitation.
  At that point we headed for the open road. Stopped to pump up the front 
tires, I'd inflated the rears in Jersey before hauling the car back but not the 
fronts since they were on the dolly.
  Out on the road things steadily improved although I think it needs a fuel 
filter (already on its way, I put a nearly $100 order in to Rusty today). The 
suspension is much tighter than the 240D but does seem to have an interesting 
wander in it. 
  I took about a 7 mile loop around before heading home for dinner. The biggest 
thing I noticed is that the temp gauge never moved through the whole ride. I 
expect that means its disconnected, even if the thermostat we stuck open I'd 
expect the needed to move eventually. I had reasonably good cabin heat too.
   
  -Curt


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Don't think it is as easy as Rich opens, but it's not rocket science
neither.
More like Marshall hints: plenty of experience past down.
I am not experienced and knowledgeable enough to tell which 'HARD' part is
bad, marginal or good on an automatic.
I repaired, rebuilt and screwed up a many manuals, cars and bikes, and
learned a lot from mostly failures.
I would not attempt to waste $ 500 in R  R + $ 300 in 'soft'  parts, spend
days not knowing what I'm doing and expecting a 'NEW' transmission.
I had a long conversation with one of the people at JAGGI. Not a salesman,
you mind. His description of a typical rebuild was that all 'hard' wear
items, such as bearings, plates, bands, clutches, gears and carriers,
solenoids and actuators  are 

Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That would be cool, but doubt the time would be available.  Could visit 
my brother while up there.


Christopher McCann wrote:


A few years ago, my dad's cousin and her husband  drove the Dalton Highway to 
Deadhorse, Alaska...some 4,000+ miles from  Kansas City in a camper. You can 
drive within 3 miles of the Arctic  Ocean and from there a bus takes you to the 
Ocean...Prudhoe Bay to be  exact. Usually about freezing even in the summer. 
The Dalton Highway is  mostly gravel, hard on cars (particularly windshields 
and headlights),  etc. Tons of articles on line and picture galleries.
  
  A sample: http://gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/byway/ak_dalton.htm
  
  Anyone interested in an Arctic-Q? Not really able to do this any time  soon - maybe this coming summer...or the following summer...but I have  been thinking about it and thought I would throw it out for thoughts,  reactions, ideas, etc. Could be very interesting as a multi-car  caravan...we could carry lots of tools and spare parts between several  vehicles in addition to all the other stuff - spare tires, food, water,  clothes for the arctic blasts that can come at any time, etc.
  
  Chris
  
  
  
  



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Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
Shut everything off in the hause, refrigerator, alarm clock and all, and see
if the meter is still runnung.
One easy way to figure if the heater is OK is to put a $ 5 Ohmeter to it and
to apply Ohm's Law.
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On 12/6/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jim Cathey wrote:
  I can listen for a quiet hiss.  I can come back out in an hour or
  two and
  feel the thermostat housing on the engine.  I can turn the ignition on
  in an
  hour or two
 
  You can also use the common (and cheap) multimeter to measure
  the current to the plug, though that may require a jumper wire
  or two and some care as not to electrocute yourself.
 
  Or for even less expense, though more electrocution risk, you
  hook a light bulb in series with your plug and see if it lights
  up.

 Plugging the block heat in or disconnecting it in the dark USUALLY draws
 a sufficient arc to be detectable.

 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread John Robbins

Christopher McCann wrote:

I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your food
has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE
places  to stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you
would not  HAVE to camp. There is always sleeping in the
car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that would be awesome)/G-wagen (even
better...unimog is over-kill).


How about a small pop-up camper trailer?  Dunno if that helps out with 
the bear thing or not...


My wife and I haven't had our honeymoon yet, and I have been campaigning 
for a trip to Alaska...  she doesn't trust the car that much, and if she 
did she also doesn't want to sit in it that long (seat needs rebuilt). 
Wonder if having a bunch of MB enthusiasts would help or hurt ;)


I would love to make the trip.  Hopefully money and jobs can align 
themselves so that it could happen...   I think that most of the people 
who've commented on the trip work full-time.  Is there a limit to the 
time you guys can take off?  I'm still in college, but next summer would 
be either grad school or work


John
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Re: [MBZ] 300D, 1975

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I hear vaseline works to keep your dash from cracking.  Armor all should 
be avoided.  That car makes me want to get my 76 300D cleaned up and 
start driving it!!


Lee Levitt wrote:


Bob writes:


That looks nice...however it looks like the interior has been 
sprayed with vasoline.



There was a short period of time in the late '70s or maybe early '80s where
the hot tip for keeping dash vinyl intact was to coat it with baby oil.
Guess this seller didn't hear that it didn't work...

Also, while the car does look nice, it also looks like it's been resprayed. 


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
If my mother was still living up there we could just head into Anchorage 
and have her husband fly us on up to prudoe on the gulfstream jet.


Christopher McCann wrote:


oh yes. I think the Arctic Circle is mile 115 on  the Dalton Hwy...it starts in 
Fairbanks and goes about 440 miles to  Deadhorse...you are abour 300 miles 
NORTH of the arctic circle - you  stand on the shore of the Arctic Ocean. Some 
people take off their  shoes and stand in it. One guy said it was about 50 F 
(result of 24  hours of sunlight for two months straight) - another was there 
in  summer - it was right about freezing and the ocean was ice and slush -  I 
would still stand in about 1 foot deep for a picture...although if  you 
slipped, you might die - hypothermia happens FAST...so does  frostbite - had it 
once - VERY painful.
  
  Chris


Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Would this put us above the arctic 
circle??

On 12/6/05, Christopher McCann  wrote:


A few years ago, my dad's cousin and her husband  drove the Dalton Highway
to Deadhorse, Alaska...some 4,000+ miles from  Kansas City in a camper. You
can drive within 3 miles of the Arctic  Ocean and from there a bus takes you
to the Ocean...Prudhoe Bay to be  exact. Usually about freezing even in the
summer. The Dalton Highway is  mostly gravel, hard on cars (particularly
windshields and headlights),  etc. Tons of articles on line and picture
galleries.

A sample: http://gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/byway/ak_dalton.htm

Anyone interested in an Arctic-Q? Not really able to do this any
time  soon - maybe this coming summer...or the following summer...but I
have  been thinking about it and thought I would throw it out for
thoughts,  reactions, ideas, etc. Could be very interesting as a
multi-car  caravan...we could carry lots of tools and spare parts between
several  vehicles in addition to all the other stuff - spare tires, food,
water,  clothes for the arctic blasts that can come at any time, etc.

Chris






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-1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen
-1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf
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-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
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-1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf 
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Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong

2005-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
It was, I believe in the early 60', when Sweden changed from L/H to R/H
traffic. They did it over night and had minor mishaps.
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On 12/6/05, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jeff Zedic wrote:
  India on the left. China I think, all former Bristish colonies on the
  left. That would inlcude Kenya, Ghana, Zimbabwe and South Africa.
  (?)Hmmm. not sure on SA.
 
  Most of the Caribbean are too, n'est-ce pas?

 Here's a map from Wikipedia:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Driving_standards.png

 China drives on the right, as do all British colonies except the US and
 Canada.  Strangely, the US Virgin Islands drive on the left.  India is a
 huge chunk of the world's population, but probably a pretty small piece
 of the world's traffic.  I suspect that less than a quarter of the
 world's traffic drives on the left.

 Tom

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Re: [MBZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] insurance companies my Crushed 300CD

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont know, I just ran a few quotes on their website and it really 
doenst seem very expensive to me.


Ed Booher wrote:


On 12/2/05, eric peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well just heard from the insurance company and they
are going to total my 85 300CD 87K mi and are offering
$5000.  NADA clasic book is $8850 and all I can find
that is low mileage is in the $12000 to 17000 range.



This does not help you now, but may help you in the future. There is
an Insurance company that specializes in Collector status autos.
Hagerty Auto (http://www.hagerty.com) will build a premium based on
what the auto is worth on the street and to you, vs low blue booking
it so to speak. They aren't going to be as cheap as an Allstate, but
if you have an accident, and you know the only way you are replacing
your priced Diesel Coupe is 15K, then 15K is what you'll get.

(As an aside, I've never actually had a chance to use them yet, none
of my cars are older than 94, and they are all Mitsubishi. Not exactly
the caliber of vehicle they deal with, but I've owned some exotic to
me vehicles in the past that I lost due to insurance writing them off.
So your mileage may vary.)

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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not 
taken apart.  Doubt I would attempt to take one apart.


Marshall Booth wrote:


David Bruckmann wrote:


Didn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] make a DVD explaining the rebuild process?




YES. But of course, his video can ONLY illustrate one model. You need 
the specific for YOUR transmission. His video can't illustrate the valve 
body variations of different transmission.


It CAN be done. Most of the people that rebuilt their own transmissions 
managed to do it without MAJOR problems is they did it slowly and 
carefully without making ANY mistakes or correcting mistakes before the 
transmission was reassembled. This almost always was possible IF they 
had someone experienced that they could ask questions of. 30-50 hours is 
a common when DIYers rebuild a transmission, but there are a LOT of 
pitfalls. Just one mistake and the transmission has to come out to 
repair THAT.


Marshall


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[MBZ] Arctic-Q

2005-12-07 Thread Chris Hoskin
Sounds like this thing may actually come together. If we would be looking at
summer 2007 that would seem to leave enough time to do some good planning
and arrange personal schedules.got me thinking, maybe I could use it as
an excuse to pick up the 5 speed diesel LandCruiser I've been
wantingh, or maybe if its a good year a diesel G-Wagon!

I would strongly recommend Vancouver, BC as a rendez-vous point.  One of my
favorite cities and a great place for the Canucks to welcome the Yanks!
Hope none of you all (sorry y'all) in the southern tier take offence at
the term! ;)

got me thinkin', Chris,please mark me as interested,

Chris

'81 300SD 80K
'88/'76 GMC240D mileage unknown
'88 Land Cruiser FJ60




Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

We are in for some snow tomorrow Tom, or so they say.

Tom Reynolds wrote:


I'm gettin' hypothermia just *thinking* about it.  17F with some wind and
outside for 8 minutes letting the dogs out in the morning just about kills me.
Tom
Sand Springs, OK




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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not 
taken apart.  Doubt I would attempt to take one apart.


Then you're NOT rebuilding the transmission!

Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Oh really, why not?

Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not 
taken apart.  Doubt I would attempt to take one apart.



Then you're NOT rebuilding the transmission!

Marshall


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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Kevin
On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:17:48PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Oh really, why not?

need to clean everything before you put it back together. Some transmissions
(47RE comes to mind) get sticky passages in the valve body that need to be
dealt with during a rebuild.

K



Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Nick Wellinghoff
Hi all,

My transmission just recently went out and I have purchased a new car
(needed something that doesn't burn out every few months.) but defiantly
want to put my old Benz back to running condition. I just love the way that
thing rides.  Time is of no concern as I can spend a very long time
attempting to rebuild. This valve body stuff sounds a little advanced and
undocumented.  In what circumstances does one need to rebuild the valve
body?  First gear still works but I can't get it to go into 2nd. The fluid
went from red to black in about 1 week after this happened. And that is only
driving it three times to get it moved from the point of failure (at a
10m.p.h crawl)back to my house. What other publicly or cheaply accessible
documentation is available on how to do this sort of thing besides this
video? 

Thanks,
Nick
82 300 SD (tranny gone)
2005 Infiniti G35



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Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not 
taken apart.  Doubt I would attempt to take one apart.

Marshall Booth wrote:

 David Bruckmann wrote:
 
Didn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] make a DVD explaining the rebuild process?

 
 
 YES. But of course, his video can ONLY illustrate one model. You need 
 the specific for YOUR transmission. His video can't illustrate the valve 
 body variations of different transmission.
 
 It CAN be done. Most of the people that rebuilt their own transmissions 
 managed to do it without MAJOR problems is they did it slowly and 
 carefully without making ANY mistakes or correcting mistakes before the 
 transmission was reassembled. This almost always was possible IF they 
 had someone experienced that they could ask questions of. 30-50 hours is 
 a common when DIYers rebuild a transmission, but there are a LOT of 
 pitfalls. Just one mistake and the transmission has to come out to 
 repair THAT.
 
 Marshall

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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
Besides replacing ball checks, seats, springs, metering orfices and the
like.
I think a MB V/B has 1/2 dozen balls in it.


On 12/6/05, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:17:48PM -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  Oh really, why not?

 need to clean everything before you put it back together. Some
 transmissions
 (47RE comes to mind) get sticky passages in the valve body that need to be
 dealt with during a rebuild.

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[MBZ] 87 300D parts car

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

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Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
  or Volts/Amps = Ohms


On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shut everything off in the hause, refrigerator, alarm clock and all, and
 see if the meter is still runnung.
 One easy way to figure if the heater is OK is to put a $ 5 Ohmeter to it
 and to apply Ohm's Law.
 --
 Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
 '82 300SD, '95 E300D

 On 12/6/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Jim Cathey wrote:
   I can listen for a quiet hiss.  I can come back out in an hour or
   two and
   feel the thermostat housing on the engine.  I can turn the ignition
  on
   in an
   hour or two
  
   You can also use the common (and cheap) multimeter to measure
   the current to the plug, though that may require a jumper wire
   or two and some care as not to electrocute yourself.
  
   Or for even less expense, though more electrocution risk, you
   hook a light bulb in series with your plug and see if it lights
   up.
 
  Plugging the block heat in or disconnecting it in the dark USUALLY draws
  a sufficient arc to be detectable.
 
  Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

2005-12-07 Thread redghost
I suspect that any old reamer for a 617 should work just fine in your 
115.  Gump on the other hand has a 615 engine and who knows what tool I 
could use should I ever need to ream her


On Monday, December 5, 2005, at 11:40 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

So, if I understand correctly, (I've never yet had a glow plug out) 
these
things screw in like a sparkplug. You are saying that the hole behind 
the
glow plug will have filled up with carbon if the glowplug was not 
operative.
When a new one gets installed, it isn't going to work if the carbon 
blocks
the hole and the fuel does not reach the glowplug. The answer then is 
to get
the carbon out of the hole and hence the use of the reamer to 
accomplish the

task.

So, how specialized is this tool and where would I find one that would 
work
on my old 115 76 300D? Most of you folks seem to have moved on to the 
newer
cars so there should be some of these tools floating around out there 
that
have not yet achieved antique status and doubled in value (if I'm 
lucky?).


Randy

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?


R A Bennell wrote:


So fill me in. Why would I want to ream the glow plugs (the holes 
they fit

in I assume)?


If you've had a bad injector or a bad glowplug, the prechamber will 
likely
be plugged with carbon. If the plug is so carboned up that you have 
trouble
removing it, you know you need to ream out the carbon before you put 
the

new one in.

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Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding

2005-12-07 Thread Marshall Booth

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Oh really, why not?

Marshall Booth wrote:


Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

Well his video doenst got into the valve body, its just removed, not 
taken apart.  Doubt I would attempt to take one apart.


Then you're NOT rebuilding the transmission!


The valve body (and OTHER hard) parts wear too. Measuring and replacing 
these hard moving parts that show any wear is why a proper rebuild will 
last as long as the original. After 200-250kmi, valve body parts show a 
LOT more wear than most American or Japanese transmissions that last and 
average 75-150kmi.


Rebuilding a Mercedes transmission is a matter of MUCH more than 
replacing soft parts! If you just replace the soft parts, the 
transmission my fail again ANY MOMENT. That's the problem with most 
MacFix rebuilds.


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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

2005-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley
redghost wrote:
 
 I suspect that any old reamer for a 617 should work just fine in your
 115.  Gump on the other hand has a 615 engine and who knows what tool I
 could use should I ever need to ream her

I suspect Randy would need a reamer with guide threads the size of the
threads on a loop plug. The reamers I've seen were sized for pencil plugs.



Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

2005-12-07 Thread Marshall Booth

Mitch Haley wrote:

redghost wrote:

I suspect that any old reamer for a 617 should work just fine in your
115.  Gump on the other hand has a 615 engine and who knows what tool I
could use should I ever need to ream her


I suspect Randy would need a reamer with guide threads the size of the
threads on a loop plug. The reamers I've seen were sized for pencil plugs.


There are reamers for loop plugs and for pencil plugs. All you need is a 
reamer that is slightly larger than the plug (but not so big that it 
damages the prechamber or prechamber pin). Reaming when replacing loop 
plugs is considered MUCH more critical than when replacing pencil plugs 
unless the pencil plugs don't come out easily.


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Re: [MBZ] Fuel induction cleaning Was It's Alive!

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
Our Chrysler dealer did that same treatment when I took the '97
Grand Voyager in because it was detonating under load. I couldn't tell
a bit of difference anywhere except my wallet. That was the last ime
it's been there!

Kaleb's car has Bosch CIS injection - it's not the same as current
injection systems. Don't know what the difference would be, other than
lower operating pressures in the fuel lines.

On 12/6/05, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK Don wrote in response to Kaleb's Post below:



 Perhaps some strong Techron, run it a bit, new plugs, then road trip!



 On 12/5/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Well I swapped the fuel pump on the euro project today(85 380SE with

  5.0 euro motor).  After some cranking it fired up.  Runs BAD and

  smoked like you would not believe, black black smoke.  No telling how

  much crud is in there.  Will have to mess with it some more when I get


  it pulled out of the garage.





 I have used the BG line of products for gas cars that need a thorough
 fuel system cleaning and they work great. You will have to (get to) buy
 another tool to do it properly.  They have a three step fuel induction
 kit.  One step is to push a cleaner directly through the injector rail
 (this is why you need the tool).  Works great!  My wife had a 93 Lebaron
 with very low miles that was mostly highway driven and ran like crap.  I
 did this and it cleared it right up.  Evidently the Chrysler dealer did
 this on a number of Chrysler products and it really helped.



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Re: [MBZ] '82 300SD STABILIZER FIXED!!

2005-12-07 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that Jim wrote:

  If so, then it's not a _hard_ fix - if you can find a good used one.
 
  It took me about 2.5 hours to pull the good one out of a parts car,
  and about 5-6 hours to do the full swap (old out, new in)
 
 A 126?  On a 107 the bar is up front, but on 126 it sure looks like
 the engine has to come out.  Maybe it doesn't, but I bet everything
 else under the hood does.
 
 -- Jim

Bother.

I'm guess I'm reading the posts too quickly

*sigh*

I (correctly) heard that the mechanic made this for his 126 - but in
Dan's sig I missed the S in 300SD.

So I was reporting on my experiences with a W123.

It's not the same as a W126 - just in case someone was wondering! *grin*

Philip, tripped 'cause I'm reading fast - trying to keep up!!



[MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Reynolds
Hi gang,
Found a 300E that might not be a total POS and reasonably priced.
But, said car has a few problems.  And, it has a salvage title.  Known
problems (so far) are that the cruise control, while for a time
intermittant, now seems to finally bit the bullet and died.  Also, the
aircon doesn't work.  The heater, on the other hand, does work, but current
owner says the fan never seems to go completely off.  Are the problems with
the cc and the a/c-fan issue something that can be pretty easily (read
cheaply) fixed?  And, if it passes a PPI (am thinking about Benzin, but
will consider other recommendations) should a salvage title concern me if I
plan to keep the car?  (Current owner has no idea why it has a salvage
title, he bought it from his brother.)  I should get the VIN and run a
Carfax, maybe?

Thanks very much,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK


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Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 aka

2005-12-07 Thread Fmiser
rumor has it that David wrote:

 andrew strasfogel wrote:
  I rented a movie DVD and wanted to transfer it to videotape for later
  veiwing but couldn't because DVDs are now copy protected.  So much for fair
  use - they didn't even give me a chance to be honest or fair!

 
 DVDs have two layers of copy protection.  The first is a digital 
 encryption scheme called CSS.  

 The second layer is what prevents you from making a video tape recording 
 of a DVD you're playing back.  It's called Macrovision.  It's an analog 
 scheme, also used on rental videocassettes, and in the case of DVDs it's 
 actually applied to the outgoing signal by a circuit inside the DVD 
 player.  I won't go into the technical details here, but it acts by 
 interfering with the automatic gain control in the VCR.

This is true. A mostly useless piece of data is that Betamax recorders
are nearly immune to the effect - but they don't strip it. Also, any
VHS deck with a manual video level control (high end pro decks,
usually) will not be too bothered by it.

 At home I have a video projector that simply cannot deal with 
 Macrovision; it confuses it into thinking it doesn't have a valid video 
 signal.  I ended up buying a video stabilizer to strip the Macrovision 
 encoding off the signal.  While I don't use this device for copying, and 
 my use of it infringes no one's copyright, I had a hard time getting it 
 because the DMCA makes it illegal to sell or even to posess it.  It's a 
 strange world we live in.

Curious. A device called a TBC (time base corrector), which is an
essential part of any non-hobby tape-based video production system,
will do the same thing. By rebuilding the sync portion of the signal
the Macrovision parts are (rightly) tossed out with any other trash!

So I am surprised to hear that it's illegal to _posess_ one since there
are so many applications where it's indespensible and legitimate!

But like you said - it's a strange world!!!

  Philip, old style video geek





Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
That's what I heard - just put the snow tires on the 300D 2.5.  I
didn't think that I'd have an opportunity to use them after the last
two winters!

On 12/6/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We are in for some snow tomorrow Tom, or so they say.

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
It COULD have buymbparts/striplin.net associated -- for some subsidies -- -

On 12/6/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well if would have to be a buymbparts/striplin.net thing, that way, if
 it did make it in the star we would get more exposure.  H
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
We're interested as well -- the SDL needs some good highway miles,
only 290k so far --

A good friend of ours just took this exact trip this spring and came
back with some great photos (and he's not that great a photog). I'll
bring still cameras and ham radio.

On 12/6/05, Christopher McCann 
  I'll keep track of those interested.

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Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
Just measure continuity - if it's not a open circuit, it will draw current.

On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
  or Volts/Amps = Ohms


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Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 aka

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
I used to drool over TBCs when I worked around video production --
Are they cheap yet? anything worth buying on eBay?



 Curious. A device called a TBC (time base corrector), which is an
 essential part of any non-hobby tape-based video production system,
 will do the same thing. By rebuilding the sync portion of the signal
 the Macrovision parts are (rightly) tossed out with any other trash!

 So I am surprised to hear that it's illegal to _posess_ one since there
 are so many applications where it's indespensible and legitimate!

 But like you said - it's a strange world!!!

  Philip, old style video geek

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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

2005-12-07 Thread David Bruckmann
You need a reamer specific to the loop-style plugs; the later 
OM617.95/pencil-style reamers will not work in the 617.91 engine in a 
W115.


But before you waste money on a reamer, here's a little story:

When I first got my '79 wagon with loop-style glow plugs there was 
ENORMOUS carbon buildup, to the point where the glow plug was STUCK 
in the carbon and very difficult to remove. I ordered a reamer from 
MB and had to wait for it to come in, so in the intervening weeks I 
drove the crap out of the engine, literally. When I finally went to 
use the reamer, ALL the carbon that might have been in reach of the 
reamer had already been expelled from the prechambers through 
repeated practise of the Italian tune-up. Waste of money for the 
reamer.


So, if there's evidence of severe fouling, consider a reamer only 
AFTER driving the car aggressively for a while. If there's no 
evidence of fouling, especially on a 617 engine, forgeddaboudit!


D.

On Monday, December 5, 2005, at 11:40 AM, R A Bennell wrote:

 So, if I understand correctly, (I've never yet had a glow plug out)
 these
 things screw in like a sparkplug. You are saying that the hole behind
 the
 glow plug will have filled up with carbon if the glowplug was not
 operative.
 When a new one gets installed, it isn't going to work if the carbon
 blocks
 the hole and the fuel does not reach the glowplug. The answer then is
 to get
 the carbon out of the hole and hence the use of the reamer to
 accomplish the
 task.

 So, how specialized is this tool and where would I find one that would
 work
 on my old 115 76 300D? Most of you folks seem to have moved on to the
 newer
 cars so there should be some of these tools floating around out there
 that
 have not yet achieved antique status and doubled in value (if I'm
 lucky?).

 Randy


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1981 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston (120,000km), 1988 Merkur XR4Ti (209,000km)
1981 Peugeot 505 GRD (350,000km), 1985 Toyota Camry The Slamry 
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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
Ditto --
I never needed a reamer on my 615, 616, or 617 loop glow plug engines,
just removed the old plug, put the new one in. Same with the 603
egine. We alway drive the cars hard.

On 12/6/05, David Bruckmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You need a reamer specific to the loop-style plugs; the later
 OM617.95/pencil-style reamers will not work in the 617.91 engine in a
 W115.

 But before you waste money on a reamer, here's a little story:

 When I first got my '79 wagon with loop-style glow plugs there was
 ENORMOUS carbon buildup, to the point where the glow plug was STUCK
 in the carbon and very difficult to remove. I ordered a reamer from
 MB and had to wait for it to come in, so in the intervening weeks I
 drove the crap out of the engine, literally. When I finally went to
 use the reamer, ALL the carbon that might have been in reach of the
 reamer had already been expelled from the prechambers through
 repeated practise of the Italian tune-up. Waste of money for the
 reamer.

 So, if there's evidence of severe fouling, consider a reamer only
 AFTER driving the car aggressively for a while. If there's no
 evidence of fouling, especially on a 617 engine, forgeddaboudit!

 D.
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
Could we put a star on your front fender?

On 12/6/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris,
  Sounds like my kind of adventureToo bad I sold my Benz..Are
 motorcycles welcome?

 Mike
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Canfield
SureA Suzuki DR650 with THE star on the fender might be a bit 
blasphemous but if it's OK with you guys...Mike
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?



Could we put a star on your front fender?

On 12/6/05, Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris,
 Sounds like my kind of adventureToo bad I sold my Benz..Are
motorcycles welcome?

Mike

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Just remember for all you gun-toting Yanks down there that handguns
are a prohibited weapon in here Canada. If you show up at the border
with one, be prepared to kiss it goodbye. Big penalties for failing to
do so...

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/visitin_e.asp

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/prohibited_e.asp

And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
bet on it nowadays.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/6/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris offered:

  I'll keep track of those interested.

 It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
 Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm sure the
 clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that trip.
 Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point
 would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our Northern
 Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the other
 side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm not
 much of a tent camper.
 Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.

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 '77 300D 144K
 Litchfield Park, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] Another video, this time with pontoon and /8 aka

2005-12-07 Thread redghost
Wandered about the local university surplus store and found all sorts 
of video and medical goodies.   Bet  you could find some higher tech 
old stuff that would be easy on the wallet


On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, at 01:13 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:


Curt Raymond wrote:
There are actually 2 pieces of professional gear that I have that 
will get around macrovision, 1 is a TBC (Time Base Corrector) and the 
other is a distribution amp. Neither were hard to get, in fact the 
TBC is built into one of my decks. Distribution amps are as common as 
dirt and vital if you're going to record one signal onto multiple 
decks at the same time.




TBCs, like most pro gear, usually don't come cheap, though.

Part of the issue with Macrovision is the company that patented it also
patented most of the cheap, obvious ways to defeat it.  Before the 
DMCA,

they would simply sue the manufacturers of video stabilizers for
patent infringement.


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
So, if the USA won't let me back in, will Canada let me stay?


 And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
 own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
 year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
 bet on it nowadays.

 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Canfield

Tim,
 You are completely right...You can go from the US to Canada but you 
BETTER have a passport or you aren't getting back in.  I had a friend 
detained at Niagara Falls for 72 hours until he could get physical proof he 
was a US citizen.  Probably the same at the Canada/Alaska border i would 
guess wouldn't it?


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?



Just remember for all you gun-toting Yanks down there that handguns
are a prohibited weapon in here Canada. If you show up at the border
with one, be prepared to kiss it goodbye. Big penalties for failing to
do so...

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/visitin_e.asp

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/prohibited_e.asp

And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
bet on it nowadays.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/6/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris offered:

 I'll keep track of those interested.

It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm sure 
the
clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that 
trip.

Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point
would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our 
Northern

Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the other
side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm not
much of a tent camper.
Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] 300D, 1975

2005-12-07 Thread redghost
Lots of rattle can on the engine.  I will have to get an earl schieb  
paint job on Gump and increase her value to thousands of dollars



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Here is one.

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread TimothyPilgrim
Nope. You'll have to live in an airport like Tom Hanks.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/6/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, if the USA won't let me back in, will Canada let me stay?

 
  And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
  own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
  year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
  bet on it nowadays.
 
  Tim
  1982 300TD Moby
 --
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 Norman, OK
 '90 300D, '87 300SDL,  '81 240D,  '78 450SLC
 The FSM created the Diesel Benz
 http://www.venganza.org/

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread redghost
Might be interested in taking Gump in a few summers.  Head out of 
Seattle as a point, or meet in Vancouver off Canada hwy 1



On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, at 01:29 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

I'm working on my 300D-owning workmate. He wanted  to bike across 
Russia (his friend is doing it: www.projectvostok.com)  but decided 
not to. This is a little more do-able. If my aunt Lois did  it, I sure 
as hell can!


  I'll keep track of those interested.

  We would DEFINITELY need to memorialize it with a website.

  We would need a rendezvous point too...or points, depending on where 
people are coming from.


  Chris

J.B. Hebert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  My uncle has done that trip 
about a half dozen

times on his motorcycle (starting in ME).  I'd love to do it someday.

J.B.

At 03:37 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:


A few years ago, my dad's cousin and her
husband  drove the Dalton Highway to Deadhorse,
Alaska...some 4,000+ miles from  Kansas City in
a camper. You can drive within 3 miles of the
Arctic  Ocean and from there a bus takes you to
the Ocean...Prudhoe Bay to be  exact. Usually
about freezing even in the summer. The Dalton
Highway is  mostly gravel, hard on cars
(particularly windshields and headlights),  etc.
Tons of articles on line and picture galleries.

  A sample: http://gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/byway/ak_dalton.htm

  Anyone interested in an Arctic-Q? Not
really able to do this any time  soon - maybe
this coming summer...or the following
summer...but I have  been thinking about it and
thought I would throw it out for
thoughts,  reactions, ideas, etc. Could be very
interesting as a multi-car  caravan...we could
carry lots of tools and spare parts between
several  vehicles in addition to all the other
stuff - spare tires, food, water,  clothes for
the arctic blasts that can come at any time, etc.

  Chris






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-1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf
-1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen)
-1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent
-1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One 
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread redghost
Sounds like somebody should invest in a support vehicle of the old 
transit bus type.  We could keep spare fuel and parts inside as well as 
secure place for food and some bunks for the drivers who do not camp.  
I am sure there could be a heat source to keep us warm.  Wonder where I 
could find a Benz bus around here?


On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, at 02:10 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:

will do. those are some great idea. At the very least, we would make 
it into STAR magazine.


  I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your 
food  has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE 
places  to stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you 
would not  HAVE to camp. There is always sleeping in the 
car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that would be awesome)/G-wagen (even 
better...unimog is over-kill).


  Chris

  Again, video is a great idea. I am sure there would be NO shortage 
of  VERY memorable events to film - heck - Lt. Don got a flat in the 
Waffle  House parking lot...what would happen to him in Alaska?


Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris offered:

 I'll keep track of those interested.

It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm 
sure the
clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that 
trip.

Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point
would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our 
Northern
Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the 
other
side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm 
not

much of a tent camper.
Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ



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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

2005-12-07 Thread Marshall Booth
No question, you CAN burn the carbon out (I've been preaching that for 
years) but the cylinder MUST be working properly for that to happen! In 
a pinch, you can pull the prechamber. A reamer is handy if you want to 
take care of it NOW!


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro

Chris speculated:

THis wouldn't be a winter trip...the biggest annoyance will be 
MOSQUITOS...,of course I'll be reminded of that when we get snowbound  in 
one of those rare summer snow storms and are freezing in a snow  drift.


They say the beginning of September is nice...most of the mosquitos are 
gone, leaves have turned, etc.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ




Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong

2005-12-07 Thread Lee Levitt
I think it was 6 am on a Saturday morning, in 1963.

Lee



On Tue Dec 06 17:57:00 PST 2005, Hans Neureiter 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It was, I believe in the early 60', when Sweden changed from L/H 
 to R/H
 traffic. They did it over night and had minor mishaps.
 --
 Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
 '82 300SD, '95 E300D
 
 On 12/6/05, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Jeff Zedic wrote:
  India on the left. China I think, all former Bristish colonies 
 on the
  left. That would inlcude Kenya, Ghana, Zimbabwe and South 
 Africa.
  (?)Hmmm. not sure on SA.
 
  Most of the Caribbean are too, n'est-ce pas?
 
 Here's a map from Wikipedia:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Driving_standards.png
 
 China drives on the right, as do all British colonies except the 
 US and
 Canada.  Strangely, the US Virgin Islands drive on the left.  
 India is a
 huge chunk of the world's population, but probably a pretty 
 small piece
 of the world's traffic.  I suspect that less than a quarter of 
 the
 world's traffic drives on the left.
 
 Tom
 
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Ed Booher
On 12/6/05, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So, if the USA won't let me back in, will Canada let me stay?

No, they won't. I have a huge amount of paperwork about immigration to
Canada. It appears to be very difficult from what I was sent. Though,
I imagine it's not much harder than a full immigration into the U.S.
(vs. being an illegal alien)

I wonder how many Americans are illegal aliens in Canada. Odd thought.

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Re: [MBZ] Glow plug reamer for OM606?

2005-12-07 Thread Robert Tara Ludwick
One thing I've found thats handy for cleaning out glow plug holes on 
some diesels ( hadn't tried it on a benz yet, it would be a bit trickier 
than on my diesel ford truck:-) is a .22 cal wire gun brush on a pistol 
cleaning rod ( the rod would be a no go on the back couple of holes on 
the benz , but I bet somebody could figure something out ) spray the 
brush down with aero kroil ( or other penetrating oil ) to lube it and 
help cut the crud and run it in and out a few times.

It does a prety nice job of cleaning the carbon buildup off.

It cost about $7 all together

Robert

Marshall Booth wrote:

Mitch Haley wrote:
  

redghost wrote:


I suspect that any old reamer for a 617 should work just fine in your
115.  Gump on the other hand has a 615 engine and who knows what tool I
could use should I ever need to ream her
  

I suspect Randy would need a reamer with guide threads the size of the
threads on a loop plug. The reamers I've seen were sized for pencil plugs.



There are reamers for loop plugs and for pencil plugs. All you need is a 
reamer that is slightly larger than the plug (but not so big that it 
damages the prechamber or prechamber pin). Reaming when replacing loop 
plugs is considered MUCH more critical than when replacing pencil plugs 
unless the pencil plugs don't come out easily.


Marshall
  





Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong

2005-12-07 Thread Rory
While some countries have transferred from left to right, the only case
recorded of a transfer from right to left is in Okinawa on 30 July 1978.

found this tidbit on:
http://users.pandora.be/worldstandards/driving%20on%20the%20left.htm

I lived in Japan for seven years while in the Navy, and often found myself
walking to the left side of the car!  When I returned to the US, I then
began to absentmindedly walk to the right side of the car.

I had my first encounter with the 123 MB in Japan, a buddy bought a 76 280E
with a 4-speed and left hand steering.  I was prout of myself to be able to
switch from my rhd car to his MB without suffering a  loss of functionality.


--
Rory Morrison
Oroville, WA
1985 300SD
1982 300TD


Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley
TimothyPilgrim wrote:
 
 Just remember for all you gun-toting Yanks down there that handguns
 are a prohibited weapon in here Canada. 

Some things you might not think of are prohibited weapons.
One guy went to considerable lengths to get a child's toy blowgun
into the country as a gift to his grandson. The device in question
was capable of shooting a toothpick, but not with enough power to
pierce the skin. The gov't had taken the position that if it looks
like a blowgun, it must be a prohibited weapon under the any similar
device clause. Fortunately, the Canadian International Trade Tribunal
sided with the grandpa. 
http://www.citt.gc.ca/appeals/decision/ap2c020_e.asp

Also, leave your pepper spray at home. 

What is really funny is that a cop or fireman may carry a switchblade, but
only if he intends to use it as a tool. If his motivation is to carry it
as a weapon for self defense or the defense of others, it's prohibited.
If you are not a gov't employee, a switchblade is a prohibited device,
period. If you can flick it open under gravity or centripital force,
it's a switchblade in Canada. 
http://www.physics.mun.ca/~sstamp/knives/canada.html



Re: [MBZ] Kruse auction Houston this weekend

2005-12-07 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote:
 
 Including
 
 Mercedes-Benz 600 Roy Orbison Four Door

The high price of gas must be bothering dead rockers these
days. Elvis Presley is selling his 600 too:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4594835591



Re: [MBZ] 300D, 1975

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Scordato
Looks like the engine valve cover and compressor have been spray painted, 
could be wron though..
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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D, 1975



Wonder if it's Armor All..

Still, this is by far the nicest 115 300D I've seen in a long time.


On 12/6/05, Lee Levitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Bob writes:

 That looks nice...however it looks like the interior has been
 sprayed with vasoline.

There was a short period of time in the late '70s or maybe early '80s
where
the hot tip for keeping dash vinyl intact was to coat it with baby oil.
Guess this seller didn't hear that it didn't work...

Also, while the car does look nice, it also looks like it's been
resprayed.

Lee


 
 
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Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Scordato

Hans said

Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
 or Volts/Amps = Ohms

Yeah that is all good.  But I want something that can tell me is the block 
heater working, ie drawing power and getting juice when it is 5 below zero 
F, the wind is blowing 30mph, my bag ass is frozen, no feelings in my 
fingers, I have to get up at 1:00AM to drive 500 miles one way to Boston, or 
Chicago.  Then I need to stay in a hotel, haul out my 100 foot extention 
cord and do it all again and pray there is an outdoor outlet within 100 
feet.  So playing with lights in series, playing with electric meters at 
home, or calculating things is just not as practical as a little $20 widget 
you plug in in series and it tells you.


A) you got juice  B) you are actually drawing power at the heater.

Regards Tom Scordato
1977 300D 261K miles
1979 240D 76K miles


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Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!



Ohm's Law: Volts sqare/Watts = Ohms
 or Volts/Amps = Ohms


On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Shut everything off in the hause, refrigerator, alarm clock and all, and
see if the meter is still runnung.
One easy way to figure if the heater is OK is to put a $ 5 Ohmeter to it
and to apply Ohm's Law.
--
Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX
'82 300SD, '95 E300D

On 12/6/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Jim Cathey wrote:
  I can listen for a quiet hiss.  I can come back out in an hour or
  two and
  feel the thermostat housing on the engine.  I can turn the ignition
 on
  in an
  hour or two
 
  You can also use the common (and cheap) multimeter to measure
  the current to the plug, though that may require a jumper wire
  or two and some care as not to electrocute yourself.
 
  Or for even less expense, though more electrocution risk, you
  hook a light bulb in series with your plug and see if it lights
  up.

 Plugging the block heat in or disconnecting it in the dark USUALLY 
 draws

 a sufficient arc to be detectable.

 Marshall
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Re: [MBZ] transmission repair, 300SD

2005-12-07 Thread Tjohn
At one point I know Rusty was advertising rebuilt trannys for around $1500
w/ warranty.  I'd definitely call him before Adsit.

Tjohn
82 300 SD

On 12/6/05, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is what Jaggi replied to my inquiry:
 1982 Mercedes 300SD,  722303 02 174697 Transmission.
 ~ 165 k miles. Transmission leaks @ front (pump seal ?).
 Please quote estimated rebuilt cost.
 Can you do R  R from/in vehicle ?

 Reply:
 12-5-05
 The front pump seal 010 997 50 47 is $12.00.  We do not RR transmissions.
 The cost on a rebuild is $1800.00 without converter.





Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Canfield

Not sure about that part.  Mike
- Original Message - 
From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?



So, if the USA won't let me back in, will Canada let me stay?



And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
bet on it nowadays.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

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[MBZ] Headlight repair

2005-12-07 Thread Lee Levitt
I bought a pair of new OEM ecode headlights from ebay.de and they arrived
with one mounting tab (the lower inner post) on each broken. Packaging
design problem -- these tabs stick out and got broken in transit.

What should I use to rebuild and reinforce these tabs (reattaching the posts
to the headlamp bucket)? Is JB Weld the right stuff?

Comments appreciated.

Thanks!

Lee
'93 300D 2.5L 180K





[MBZ] W124 parts

2005-12-07 Thread Lee Levitt
Anyone know where I can get a set of wiper/washers and trim pieces for my
'93 W124 with ecode headlamps?
 
I've got the lamps (as noted in my previous message) and I need to get this
setup together and on the car so I can pass inspection (DOT headlamp is
blown and I don't want to spend any money on that setup...)
 
Used is fine, preferable...I gather that the US DOT parts off a '94 or '95
will work with '93 and earlier ecodes.
 
Please contact me offlist if you know of a souce. (I've already emailed
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) separately).
 
If new is the only reasonably quick source, I'll be calling Rusty :)
 
Thanks!
 
Lee
'93 300D 2.5L 180K


Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

2005-12-07 Thread Dan Weeks
Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then 
repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean 
problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until 
your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it 
could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount 
for the salvage title.

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Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Reynolds
Thanks Rusty,
I found out that here in Oklahoma, you can have a salvage car
repaired, take the receipts and the car to a tag agency, and they can issue
a rebuild (or maybe it was rebuilt and I just wasn't hearing too well
that day) title.  And, yeah, I know that it can be for an economic total
or a structural total, could be something minor, I'm hoping that, if
things get that far, to have a good PPI done.  Just want to get some ideas
on how much it might cost to fix an inoperative cruise control and a
fluctuating heater fan (doesn't seem to shut off completely) and (not too
important right now) inoperative aircon for a 1987 300E.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 07:22 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then 
repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean 
problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until 
your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it 
could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount 
for the salvage title.
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[MBZ] Fwd: thermostat replacement

2005-12-07 Thread dieselbenz24
Hello All,
 
I put in a new thermostat last night which shipped with *2* rubber gaskets.  As 
I took out the old one I did not see any place to install one of the new rubber 
gaskets.  Where does the smaller gasket go on this car ?  (I am hoping that it 
is for a different model car.) The pictures in the manual are very dark and 
hard to see details.  It is just a round gasket as you would see on the top of 
the oil filter housing with a smaller diameter.
 
Thanks,
 
Dan Elliott
82 300D-T 89kmi


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Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong

2005-12-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
OK. Here is my trivia question:

Where in the United States do folks drive on the left? (Unless it has
changed in the last 20 years).



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THere's that old joke about the switchover, wanting to ease into it.  On

Monday all trucks and buses will switch sides, and if it works out OK on

Tuesday the cars will switch too.

--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

It was, I believe in the early 60', when Sweden changed from L/H to
R/H
traffic. They did it over night and had minor mishaps.



Swedes I worked with years ago said that after much argument back and
forth and wrangling about the details, it was decreed by the King to
be on such-and-such a day.  And so it was.  Traffic accidents went
_down_, too.  Mostly because everybody was being extremely careful
at first.

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Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Reynolds
Don't know the official terminology, but gravel pits?  Big heavy machinery,
etc. As I type this I'm trying to remember why they do it, though...
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 07:41 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote:

OK. Here is my trivia question:

Where in the United States do folks drive on the left? (Unless it has
changed in the last 20 years).



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THere's that old joke about the switchover, wanting to ease into it.  On

Monday all trucks and buses will switch sides, and if it works out OK on

Tuesday the cars will switch too.

--R

Jim Cathey wrote:

It was, I believe in the early 60', when Sweden changed from L/H to
R/H
traffic. They did it over night and had minor mishaps.



Swedes I worked with years ago said that after much argument back and
forth and wrangling about the details, it was decreed by the King to
be on such-and-such a day.  And so it was.  Traffic accidents went
_down_, too.  Mostly because everybody was being extremely careful
at first.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong

2005-12-07 Thread Hans Neureiter
US Virgin Islands ?
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On 12/7/05, Potter, Tom E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK. Here is my trivia question:

 Where in the United States do folks drive on the left? (Unless it has
 changed in the last 20 years).




Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

2005-12-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
In some states, a salvage title is attached after a vehicle is the
subject of a mechanic's lien.

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Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then 
repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean 
problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until 
your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it 
could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount 
for the salvage title.
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82 Mercedes 300SD, 275k

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Re: [MBZ] Some things are just plain wrong

2005-12-07 Thread Potter, Tom E
You win the Kewpie (sp) doll.

I was told that they tried to change to RHD after the US bought the
islands, but they could not get the donkeys to walk on the right. I
equate that to trying to get Americans to adopt the metric system.

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US Virgin Islands ?
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 OK. Here is my trivia question:

 Where in the United States do folks drive on the left? (Unless it has
 changed in the last 20 years).


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
Chris,
  
  You are duly (doo-ly)...dutifully...(what the hell am I trying to say?) 
marked!
  
  Summer 2007 is probably a good idea. Summer 2006 is going to be here b4  we 
know it and I think a fair amount of planning is needed to make sure  we 
collectively all have the right things, that we don't bring twelve  1/4 drives 
and no 6.5mm socket, etc. With enough people - a small  diesel generator could 
be brought along for emergency use, possibly.
  
  Chris

Chris Hoskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Sounds like this thing may actually 
come together. If we would be looking at
summer 2007 that would seem to leave enough time to do some good planning
and arrange personal schedules.got me thinking, maybe I could use it as
an excuse to pick up the 5 speed diesel LandCruiser I've been
wantingh, or maybe if its a good year a diesel G-Wagon!

I would strongly recommend Vancouver, BC as a rendez-vous point.  One of my
favorite cities and a great place for the Canucks to welcome the Yanks!
Hope none of you all (sorry y'all) in the southern tier take offence at
the term! ;)

got me thinkin', Chris,please mark me as interested,

Chris

'81 300SD 80K
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: thermostat replacement

2005-12-07 Thread OK Don
I don't think you need it -- if it's not leaking now, it should be OK.

On 12/7/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello All,

 I put in a new thermostat last night which shipped with *2* rubber gaskets.  
 As I took out the old one I did not see any place to install one of the new 
 rubber gaskets.  Where does the smaller gasket go on this car ?  (I am hoping 
 that it is for a different model car.) The pictures in the manual are very 
 dark and hard to see details.  It is just a round gasket as you would see on 
 the top of the oil filter housing with a smaller diameter.

 Thanks,

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Re: [MBZ] Kruse auction Houston this weekend

2005-12-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, it's tough.  I saw him at the 7-11 the other night and he was 
complaining about the prices.


--R

Mitch Haley wrote:


Rich Thomas wrote:
 


Including

Mercedes-Benz 600 Roy Orbison Four Door
   



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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
I thought that VERY SAME thing as I lay awake last  night thinking of 
sponsorship or fundraising possibilities...let the  ideas flow...
  
  Chris

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Christopher McCann wrote:

 will do. those are some great idea. At the very least, we would make it into 
 STAR magazine.
   
  I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your food  has 
 to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE places  to stay 
 along the way - not many though, but enought that you would not  HAVE to 
 camp. There is always sleeping in the car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that would 
 be awesome)/G-wagen (even better...unimog is over-kill).
   
   Chris
   
  Again, video is a great idea. I am sure there would be NO shortage of  VERY 
 memorable events to film - heck - Lt. Don got a flat in the Waffle  House 
 parking lot...what would happen to him in Alaska?
 
 Bob Rentfro  wrote:  Chris offered:
 
  I'll keep track of those interested.
 
 It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
 Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm sure the 
 clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that trip. 
 Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point 
 would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our Northern 
 Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the other 
 side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm not 
 much of a tent camper.
 Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.
 
 Bob Rentfro
 '77 300D 144K
 Litchfield Park, AZ
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
well, if we want to shoot for STAR mag and  MBUSA/MBCA attention, I don't know 
the motorcycle would fit in, but I  would leave it open to discussion. Of 
course, there will be room in the  cars of others...and plenty of driving 
opportunity.  I'm guessing  2 people per car average.
  
  Chris

Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris,
  Sounds like my kind of adventureToo bad I sold my Benz..Are 
motorcycles welcome?

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Subject: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?


A few years ago, my dad's cousin and her husband  drove the Dalton Highway 
to Deadhorse, Alaska...some 4,000+ miles from  Kansas City in a camper. You 
can drive within 3 miles of the Arctic  Ocean and from there a bus takes you 
to the Ocean...Prudhoe Bay to be  exact. Usually about freezing even in the 
summer. The Dalton Highway is  mostly gravel, hard on cars (particularly 
windshields and headlights),  etc. Tons of articles on line and picture 
galleries.

  A sample: http://gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/byway/ak_dalton.htm

  Anyone interested in an Arctic-Q? Not really able to do this any time 
soon - maybe this coming summer...or the following summer...but I have  been 
thinking about it and thought I would throw it out for thoughts,  reactions, 
ideas, etc. Could be very interesting as a multi-car  caravan...we could 
carry lots of tools and spare parts between several  vehicles in addition to 
all the other stuff - spare tires, food, water,  clothes for the arctic 
blasts that can come at any time, etc.

  Chris






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 things get that far, to have a good PPI done.  Just want to get some 
 ideas
 on how much it might cost to fix an 

Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
been thinking of that. No permit is needed in  Alaska AT ALL to carrry a 
concealed weapon. I think I would have my  PPK/S and AR-15 carbine transferred 
to an FFL in some AK gun shop along  the route and pick them up there and ship 
back the same way.
  
  Annoying but simple solution.
  
  Chris

TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Just remember for all you gun-toting 
Yanks down there that handguns
are a prohibited weapon in here Canada. If you show up at the border
with one, be prepared to kiss it goodbye. Big penalties for failing to
do so...

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/visitin_e.asp

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/prohibited_e.asp

And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
bet on it nowadays.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/6/05, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
 Chris offered:

  I'll keep track of those interested.

 It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
 Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm sure the
 clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that trip.
 Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point
 would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our Northern
 Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the other
 side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm not
 much of a tent camper.
 Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.

 Bob Rentfro
 '77 300D 144K
 Litchfield Park, AZ



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 What should I use to rebuild and reinforce these tabs (reattaching the 
 posts
 to the headlamp bucket)? Is JB Weld the right stuff?

JB Weld, a very fine glue, is not the best for this kind of thing.  It's
brittle, and will pop off the plastic under stress.  I've been having 
much
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JB Weld is currently what's holding the hood star together on the
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Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

2005-12-07 Thread Dan Weeks

You're welcome, Jim! :-)

Dan


Thanks Rusty,
I found out that here in Oklahoma, you can have a salvage car
repaired, take the receipts and the car to a tag agency, and they can issue
a rebuild (or maybe it was rebuilt and I just wasn't hearing too well
that day) title.  And, yeah, I know that it can be for an economic total
or a structural total, could be something minor, I'm hoping that, if
things get that far, to have a good PPI done.  Just want to get some ideas
on how much it might cost to fix an inoperative cruise control and a
fluctuating heater fan (doesn't seem to shut off completely) and (not too
important right now) inoperative aircon for a 1987 300E.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 07:22 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote:


Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then
repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean
problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until
your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it
could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount
for the salvage title.
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
good to know becuase everything I read and the  reports of Aunt Lois were of 
the swarms of mosquitos. Camped for a week  in the Algonquin Provincial Park - 
NEVER saw mosquitos like that  before!.
  
  Litttle Colder in September...but even today, the temp in Deadhorse is  
-10F...I talked to my father in law who farms outside Madison, WI and  it was 0 
there on MOnday - not the end of the world - snow  drifts...that's a problem.
  
  Chris

Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris speculated:

 THis wouldn't be a winter trip...the biggest annoyance will be 
MOSQUITOS...,of course I'll be reminded of that when we get snowbound  in 
one of those rare summer snow storms and are freezing in a snow  drift.

They say the beginning of September is nice...most of the mosquitos are 
gone, leaves have turned, etc.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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This is a Diesel Vanagon Westfalia trip if I've ever heard of one! 
Could I bring mine and leave the 300SD at home? :-)

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

2005-12-07 Thread Tom Reynolds
Bob,
doh!!!
Sorry Dan, it's just to friggin' cold and I'm going blind looking at cars
from $4000 and under 50 miles from 74063 to see/read/type straight any more.
:-(
Sigh,
Tom
(er, I *think* it's Tom...)
Sand Springs, OK

At 08:55 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote:

You're welcome, Jim! :-)

Dan

Thanks Rusty,
 I found out that here in Oklahoma, you can have a salvage car
repaired, take the receipts and the car to a tag agency, and they can issue
a rebuild (or maybe it was rebuilt and I just wasn't hearing too well
that day) title.  And, yeah, I know that it can be for an economic total
or a structural total, could be something minor, I'm hoping that, if
things get that far, to have a good PPI done.  Just want to get some ideas
on how much it might cost to fix an inoperative cruise control and a
fluctuating heater fan (doesn't seem to shut off completely) and (not too
important right now) inoperative aircon for a 1987 300E.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 07:22 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote:

Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then
repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean
problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until
your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it
could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount
for the salvage title.
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Dan Weeks
Yeah, I was very nearly turned away at my own border last year. Said 
I needed a passport to get back in. I didn't have mine. I said, OK, 
what do I do now? The border guard just looked at me and my 
westfalia, rolled her eyes, and waved me through. Now I carry a 
passport.


Dan


Not sure about that part.  Mike
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So, if the USA won't let me back in, will Canada let me stay?



And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
bet on it nowadays.

Tim
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Re: [MBZ] The Mystery is Gone !!!

2005-12-07 Thread Jim Cathey

So playing with lights in series, playing with electric meters at
home, or calculating things is just not as practical as a little $20
widget you plug in in series and it tells you.


My Maytag wattmeter does this for me, and was less than that at the
thrift store, but it's not all that little.  Still much more convenient
than the makeshift methods.  If it's quiet, though, listening for the
sizzle works well.

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
I think Chuck Landesburger (spelling?) could be of  substantial assistance here 
too, considering his notoriety within MBCA.  I just joined a few weeks ago, a 
more seasoned member would be better  to contact - all can be discussed. I'd to 
it sponsorship/articles or  not.
  
  Also, you need a semi-firm plan before you make a presentation like that - 
right now, we are just brainstorming.
  
  Chris

Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Before you guys get visions of being 
written up in the STAR, you'd best
contact Frank Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and talk to him about it, and
include your ideas of sponsorship, bounce them off Frank, he might have
some feedback or suggestions for you.  Better to get the guidelines
straight first than have all arranged and find out maybe they're taking you
out of the ball game.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 06:36 AM 12/07/2005 -0800, you wrote:

I thought that VERY SAME thing as I lay awake last  night thinking of
sponsorship or fundraising possibilities...let the  ideas flow...
  
  Chris

Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:  Well if would have to be
a buymbparts/striplin.net thing, that way, if 
it did make it in the star we would get more exposure.  H

Christopher McCann wrote:

 will do. those are some great idea. At the very least, we would make it
into STAR magazine.
   
  I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your food
has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE places  to
stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you would not  HAVE
to camp. There is always sleeping in the car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that
would be awesome)/G-wagen (even better...unimog is over-kill).
   
   Chris
   
  Again, video is a great idea. I am sure there would be NO shortage of
VERY memorable events to film - heck - Lt. Don got a flat in the Waffle
House parking lot...what would happen to him in Alaska?
 
 Bob Rentfro  wrote:  Chris offered:
 
  I'll keep track of those interested.
 
 It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
 Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm sure
the 
 clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that trip. 
 Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point 
 would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our
Northern 
 Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the other 
 side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm not 
 much of a tent camper.
 Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.
 
 Bob Rentfro
 '77 300D 144K
 Litchfield Park, AZ
  
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Snow tires around here are really a waste of money for the 2 or 3 days 
of the year that you might actually need them.


OK Don wrote:


That's what I heard - just put the snow tires on the 300D 2.5.  I
didn't think that I'd have an opportunity to use them after the last
two winters!

On 12/6/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


We are in for some snow tomorrow Tom, or so they say.



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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Will have to get hurst and rusty to subsidize it.

OK Don wrote:


It COULD have buymbparts/striplin.net associated -- for some subsidies -- -

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Well if would have to be a buymbparts/striplin.net thing, that way, if
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
Gotchya. Good idea. Will make note of that and  drop him a line. I do think 
this would make an intersting story. I'd  enjoy reading about it.
  
  Wonder what it costs to have a custom grille badge made? Several  hundred $ 
for the die and a little machining and some painting (wife  could do the 
latter)...that would be very cool.
  
  Chris

Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  True, but what I'm saying is (also) 
that maybe Frank could give you some
advice on how to proceed, who to contact, etc.  I mean, I don't *know* that
he would, but as editor of the STAR I would think he'd be a good place to
start, he's always looking for stories, etc.  Or give him a call at Toad
Hall Books, ask for the chief toad.

Best,
Tom

At 07:05 AM 12/07/2005 -0800, you wrote:

I think Chuck Landesburger (spelling?) could be of  substantial assistance
here too, considering his notoriety within MBCA.  I just joined a few weeks
ago, a more seasoned member would be better  to contact - all can be
discussed. I'd to it sponsorship/articles or  not.
  
  Also, you need a semi-firm plan before you make a presentation like that
- right now, we are just brainstorming.
  
  Chris

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At 06:36 AM 12/07/2005 -0800, you wrote:

I thought that VERY SAME thing as I lay awake last  night thinking of
sponsorship or fundraising possibilities...let the  ideas flow...
  
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Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:  Well if would have to be
a buymbparts/striplin.net thing, that way, if 
it did make it in the star we would get more exposure.  H

Christopher McCann wrote:

 will do. those are some great idea. At the very least, we would make it
into STAR magazine.
   
  I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your food
has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE places  to
stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you would not  HAVE
to camp. There is always sleeping in the car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that
would be awesome)/G-wagen (even better...unimog is over-kill).
   
   Chris
   
  Again, video is a great idea. I am sure there would be NO shortage of
VERY memorable events to film - heck - Lt. Don got a flat in the Waffle
House parking lot...what would happen to him in Alaska?
 
 Bob Rentfro  wrote:  Chris offered:
 
  I'll keep track of those interested.
 
 It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
 Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm sure
the 
 clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that
trip. 
 Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point 
 would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our
Northern 
 Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the other 
 side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm not 
 much of a tent camper.
 Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Well my suburban or a cheap motor home pulling an enclosed trailer?

redghost wrote:

Sounds like somebody should invest in a support vehicle of the old 
transit bus type.  We could keep spare fuel and parts inside as well as 
secure place for food and some bunks for the drivers who do not camp.  
I am sure there could be a heat source to keep us warm.  Wonder where I 
could find a Benz bus around here?


On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, at 02:10 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:


will do. those are some great idea. At the very least, we would make 
it into STAR magazine.


 I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your 
food  has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE 
places  to stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you 
would not  HAVE to camp. There is always sleeping in the 
car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that would be awesome)/G-wagen (even 
better...unimog is over-kill).


 Chris

 Again, video is a great idea. I am sure there would be NO shortage 
of  VERY memorable events to film - heck - Lt. Don got a flat in the 
Waffle  House parking lot...what would happen to him in Alaska?


Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris offered:

 I'll keep track of those interested.

It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm 
sure the
clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that 
trip.

Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point
would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our 
Northern
Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the 
other
side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm 
not

much of a tent camper.
Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Christopher McCann
but we could still advertise the list with magnets on our cars...without the 
list we'd all be on our own.
  
  Chris

Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Will have to get hurst and 
rusty to subsidize it.

OK Don wrote:

 It COULD have buymbparts/striplin.net associated -- for some subsidies -- -
 
 On 12/6/05, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
 
Well if would have to be a buymbparts/striplin.net thing, that way, if
it did make it in the star we would get more exposure.  H
 
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cheap motor home sounds like a bad idea for a trip like this.
  
  Breakdowns can happen to any vehicle, but we would all have to be as  sure as 
possible that the vehicle we are bringing is in the best of  condition for the 
trip.
  
  I would NOT bring the AKP-Wagen, for example :-)
  
  Chris

Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Well my suburban or a cheap 
motor home pulling an enclosed trailer?

redghost wrote:

 Sounds like somebody should invest in a support vehicle of the old 
 transit bus type.  We could keep spare fuel and parts inside as well as 
 secure place for food and some bunks for the drivers who do not camp.  
 I am sure there could be a heat source to keep us warm.  Wonder where I 
 could find a Benz bus around here?
 
 On Tuesday, December 6, 2005, at 02:10 PM, Christopher McCann wrote:
 
 
will do. those are some great idea. At the very least, we would make 
it into STAR magazine.

  I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your 
food  has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE 
places  to stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you 
would not  HAVE to camp. There is always sleeping in the 
car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that would be awesome)/G-wagen (even 
better...unimog is over-kill).

  Chris

  Again, video is 

Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The ArticQ can coordinate with the OkieQ that year, everyone shows up at 
the OkieQ, then the trip for ArcticQ begins.  Kill 2 birds with 1 stone. 
 Plus, we are the center of the country pretty much.


Christopher McCann wrote:


this upcoming summer or the summer after that - would be grad school or work?
  
  I definitely have a limit...let's see. 3 weeks of vacation per  year...would need to keep at least one for other things, so 10 work  days, which if I leave on a Friday after work and return on a Sunday  (and sleep at my desk the folowing monday!!! :-) that would give me  16.5 days.
  
  I'm thinking that we OFFICIALLY schedule the trip from the main  rendezvous point - XYZ, Canada - wherever...we will then all decide  collectively, how much time we want to spend from that point until we  get BACK to that point. To and from that point to your house, would  have to be your own plan, or in coordination with someone nearby  you...e.g. I could coordinate with someone from St. Louis passing  through KC and we could coordinate with someone in Nebraska - but that  would be up to us - the OFFICIAL ARCTIC-Q schedule would start and  begin at the main rendezvous point and the time frame depends on where  that point is.
  
  I would say we make as much progress as possible on big paved highways,  leaving extra time for problems on the Dalton and little Alaskan  excursions...like sitting on the tops of tors.
  
  Chris


John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Christopher McCann wrote:


I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your food
has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE
places  to stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you
would not  HAVE to camp. There is always sleeping in the
car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that would be awesome)/G-wagen (even
better...unimog is over-kill).



How about a small pop-up camper trailer?  Dunno if that helps out with 
the bear thing or not...


My wife and I haven't had our honeymoon yet, and I have been campaigning 
for a trip to Alaska...  she doesn't trust the car that much, and if she 
did she also doesn't want to sit in it that long (seat needs rebuilt). 
Wonder if having a bunch of MB enthusiasts would help or hurt ;)


I would love to make the trip.  Hopefully money and jobs can align 
themselves so that it could happen...   I think that most of the people 
who've commented on the trip work full-time.  Is there a limit to the 
time you guys can take off?  I'm still in college, but next summer would 
be either grad school or work


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Maybe I could bring the limo, could get plenty of people in there. 
Although diesel would be my choice.


Christopher McCann wrote:


well, if we want to shoot for STAR mag and  MBUSA/MBCA attention, I don't know 
the motorcycle would fit in, but I  would leave it open to discussion. Of 
course, there will be room in the  cars of others...and plenty of driving 
opportunity.  I'm guessing  2 people per car average.
  
  Chris


Mike Canfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Chris,
  Sounds like my kind of adventureToo bad I sold my Benz..Are 
motorcycles welcome?


Mike
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher McCann 
To: 
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Subject: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?


A few years ago, my dad's cousin and her husband  drove the Dalton Highway 
to Deadhorse, Alaska...some 4,000+ miles from  Kansas City in a camper. You 
can drive within 3 miles of the Arctic  Ocean and from there a bus takes you 
to the Ocean...Prudhoe Bay to be  exact. Usually about freezing even in the 
summer. The Dalton Highway is  mostly gravel, hard on cars (particularly 
windshields and headlights),  etc. Tons of articles on line and picture 
galleries.


  A sample: http://gorp.away.com/gorp/activity/byway/ak_dalton.htm

  Anyone interested in an Arctic-Q? Not really able to do this any time 
soon - maybe this coming summer...or the following summer...but I have  been 
thinking about it and thought I would throw it out for thoughts,  reactions, 
ideas, etc. Could be very interesting as a multi-car  caravan...we could 
carry lots of tools and spare parts between several  vehicles in addition to 
all the other stuff - spare tires, food, water,  clothes for the arctic 
blasts that can come at any time, etc.


  Chris






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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

brain storming or brain farting?

Christopher McCann wrote:


I think Chuck Landesburger (spelling?) could be of  substantial assistance here 
too, considering his notoriety within MBCA.  I just joined a few weeks ago, a 
more seasoned member would be better  to contact - all can be discussed. I'd to 
it sponsorship/articles or  not.
  
  Also, you need a semi-firm plan before you make a presentation like that - right now, we are just brainstorming.
  
  Chris


Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Before you guys get visions of being 
written up in the STAR, you'd best
contact Frank Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and talk to him about it, and
include your ideas of sponsorship, bounce them off Frank, he might have
some feedback or suggestions for you.  Better to get the guidelines
straight first than have all arranged and find out maybe they're taking you
out of the ball game.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 06:36 AM 12/07/2005 -0800, you wrote:


I thought that VERY SAME thing as I lay awake last  night thinking of


sponsorship or fundraising possibilities...let the  ideas flow...



Chris

Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:  Well if would have to be


a buymbparts/striplin.net thing, that way, if 


it did make it in the star we would get more exposure.  H

Christopher McCann wrote:



will do. those are some great idea. At the very least, we would make it


into STAR magazine.

 
I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your food


has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. There ARE places  to
stay along the way - not many though, but enought that you would not  HAVE
to camp. There is always sleeping in the car/wagon/unimog (omagosh  that
would be awesome)/G-wagen (even better...unimog is over-kill).

 
 Chris
 
Again, video is a great idea. I am sure there would be NO shortage of


VERY memorable events to film - heck - Lt. Don got a flat in the Waffle
House parking lot...what would happen to him in Alaska?


Bob Rentfro  wrote:  Chris offered:

 I'll keep track of those interested.

It's 4076 miles from my driveway to Deadhorse.
Any filmmaker among us could document the trip and make a DVD. I'm sure


the 

clowns at MBCA would be interested in a posse of old MBs making that trip. 
Who knows what could become of it. I'm thinking a good rendezvous point 
would be the poit where we'd cross into Canada...we could have our


Northern 

Bros (Jeff, Timothy, Randy etc) meet us there and welcome us to the other 
side. I'll have to keep my eyes peeled for a diesel MB RV thing...I'm not 
much of a tent camper.

Keeptrack of me. I'm interested.

Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

Dont get me started on what I think of Frank.

Christopher McCann wrote:


Gotchya. Good idea. Will make note of that and  drop him a line. I do think 
this would make an intersting story. I'd  enjoy reading about it.
  
  Wonder what it costs to have a custom grille badge made? Several  hundred $ for the die and a little machining and some painting (wife  could do the latter)...that would be very cool.
  
  Chris


Tom Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  True, but what I'm saying is (also) 
that maybe Frank could give you some
advice on how to proceed, who to contact, etc.  I mean, I don't *know* that
he would, but as editor of the STAR I would think he'd be a good place to
start, he's always looking for stories, etc.  Or give him a call at Toad
Hall Books, ask for the chief toad.

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro

Chris mentioned:

but we could still advertise the list with magnets on our cars...without 
the list we'd all be on our own.



They do a thing out here each year, the Copperstate 1000 (or something like 
that), which is not a rally...it's just vintage cars going roundy roundy in 
Arizona. They have sponsors galore. I'd bet we'd be surprised at the 
sponsors we could get. We'd have to think outside the box. I will get in 
touch with those Copperstate dudes and ask them how they go about getting 
sponsors for something that isn't a race or a rally. I'm sure they have good 
ideas and methods. Our possibilities could be Mobil 1, Hengst/Mann Filters, 
Bosch, Michelin, etc. Could go into REI (camping gear) and stuff like that.
I'm sure, once we get something tenativly hammered out, Chuck would be happy 
to speak to Mr. Frank Barrett. Chuck is a very benevolent, diplomatic human.


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Curt Raymond
No worries on the passport front, at least not yet. I've been to Canada like 8 
times this year (3 times I flew, the rest we drove). When I flew over I took a 
birth certificate, driving a drivers license was plenty. They ASK for passports 
but...
   
  I've heard but not verified that they had to take the manditory passports 
thing off the table because it would take like 5 years to process all the 
passports needed...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 23:17:41 -0500
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Just remember for all you gun-toting Yanks down there that handguns
are a prohibited weapon in here Canada. If you show up at the border
with one, be prepared to kiss it goodbye. Big penalties for failing to
do so...

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/visitin_e.asp

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/info_for-renseignement/factsheets/prohibited_e.asp

And git yer passports in order or you might not be let back into your
own country! Things have changed since 9/11, especially in the past
year. Used to be a simple driver's license was sufficient. I wouldn't
bet on it nowadays.

Tim
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Good idea, Okiemensch.

BR

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The ArticQ can coordinate with the OkieQ that year, everyone shows up at
the OkieQ, then the trip for ArcticQ begins.  Kill 2 birds with 1 stone.
  Plus, we are the center of the country pretty much.

Christopher McCann wrote:

 this upcoming summer or the summer after that - would be grad school or 
 work?

   I definitely have a limit...let's see. 3 weeks of vacation per 
 year...would need to keep at least one for other things, so 10 work  days, 
 which if I leave on a Friday after work and return on a Sunday  (and sleep 
 at my desk the folowing monday!!! :-) that would give me  16.5 days.

   I'm thinking that we OFFICIALLY schedule the trip from the main 
 rendezvous point - XYZ, Canada - wherever...we will then all decide 
 collectively, how much time we want to spend from that point until we  get 
 BACK to that point. To and from that point to your house, would  have to 
 be your own plan, or in coordination with someone nearby  you...e.g. I 
 could coordinate with someone from St. Louis passing  through KC and we 
 could coordinate with someone in Nebraska - but that  would be up to us - 
 the OFFICIAL ARCTIC-Q schedule would start and  begin at the main 
 rendezvous point and the time frame depends on where  that point is.

   I would say we make as much progress as possible on big paved highways, 
 leaving extra time for problems on the Dalton and little Alaskan 
 excursions...like sitting on the tops of tors.

   Chris

 John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Christopher McCann wrote:

I'm not much for camping either...where there are bears and your food
has to be 1/4 mile from your tent...even with a rifle. 

Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro

Kaleb offered:

Dont get me started on what I think of Frank

Ahhh yes...we always have been thought of as a splinter group.
Maybe those wicked hard core MBCA/other listers have softened over the 
years.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ






Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro



KALEB'S CREEDO: 


cheap does not equal junk or bad.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ




Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread TimothyPilgrim
How about Willy Nelson's biodiesel company? There's somebody with
money and an actual link to the cause!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/7/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Chris mentioned:

 but we could still advertise the list with magnets on our cars...without
 the list we'd all be on our own.


 They do a thing out here each year, the Copperstate 1000 (or something like
 that), which is not a rally...it's just vintage cars going roundy roundy in
 Arizona. They have sponsors galore. I'd bet we'd be surprised at the
 sponsors we could get. We'd have to think outside the box. I will get in
 touch with those Copperstate dudes and ask them how they go about getting
 sponsors for something that isn't a race or a rally. I'm sure they have good
 ideas and methods. Our possibilities could be Mobil 1, Hengst/Mann Filters,
 Bosch, Michelin, etc. Could go into REI (camping gear) and stuff like that.
 I'm sure, once we get something tenativly hammered out, Chuck would be happy
 to speak to Mr. Frank Barrett. Chuck is a very benevolent, diplomatic human.

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 Litchfield Park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

I doubt it.

Bob Rentfro wrote:


Kaleb offered:

Dont get me started on what I think of Frank

Ahhh yes...we always have been thought of as a splinter group.
Maybe those wicked hard core MBCA/other listers have softened over the 
years.


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Re: [MBZ] Recommended Tulsa area independents?

2005-12-07 Thread Dan Weeks

No sweat. I just couldn't resist!

Dan


Bob,
doh!!!
Sorry Dan, it's just to friggin' cold and I'm going blind looking at cars
from $4000 and under 50 miles from 74063 to see/read/type straight any more.
:-(
Sigh,
Tom
(er, I *think* it's Tom...)
Sand Springs, OK

At 08:55 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote:


You're welcome, Jim! :-)

Dan


Thanks Rusty,
 I found out that here in Oklahoma, you can have a salvage car
repaired, take the receipts and the car to a tag agency, and they can issue
a rebuild (or maybe it was rebuilt and I just wasn't hearing too well
that day) title.  And, yeah, I know that it can be for an economic total
or a structural total, could be something minor, I'm hoping that, if
things get that far, to have a good PPI done.  Just want to get some ideas
on how much it might cost to fix an inoperative cruise control and a
fluctuating heater fan (doesn't seem to shut off completely) and (not too
important right now) inoperative aircon for a 1987 300E.
Best regards,
Tom Reynolds
Sand Springs, OK

At 07:22 AM 12/07/2005 -0600, you wrote:


Salvage title in my state (IA) means the car was totalled, then
repaired. Depending on what caused it to be totalled, could mean
problems with structural integrity that you might not discover until
your next bad accident, or a tendency to rust prematurely. Or it
could be fine. Get it checked carefully, and take a hefty discount
for the salvage title.
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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q--WRONG VEHICLES

2005-12-07 Thread Dan Weeks
I think not at this point. I did lots of research 
on that road, as I proposed doing a story on it 
for a client, who decided against it. It would be 
an adventure to be sure. Hoards of biting bugs, 
though, and lots of chance for vehicle damage. I 
think there are more rewarding drives for the 
punishment, myself.


Agreed, that would make an excellent vehicle for 
the trip. If you bring the VW, then Mike (I 
think it was MIke) would  have to be allowed to 
bring the motorcycle...fine by me.


  Let me know if you want marked down as interested.

  Chris

Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  This is 
a Diesel Vanagon Westfalia trip if I've ever 
heard of one!

Could I bring mine and leave the 300SD at home? :-)

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Bob,

All that and I haven't even hired you as my PR guy.

I've been involved in planning quite a few MBCA events.  It's my  
experience the time line for obtaining sponsorship is quite long, at  
least next year's budget.  Companies want to know what the payback/ 
exposure is and don't generally open their wallets easily.


As to MBUSA or MBCA sponsorship...
MBCA has shied away from investing member dues in non-club events.  A  
friend of mine (MBCA member) who races 190E-16V's was not successful  
in gaining support.


MBUSA would (IMHO) not be interested in it, unless specific cars and  
owners (like a 300SL or high mileage cars that could emphasize MB  
quality and durability) could bring some wow factors into future  
advertising.  The multi-marque inclusive field might be a real  
negative factor.


Other friends of mine are planning on running the 2006 Carrera  
Panamerica race in a 60-something 220Se (I think) and haven't found a  
way to get some financial support.


All that said, I'd be happy to follow up on this with Frank and  
others if some plans (at least in firm Jello) are developed.


As for me, I think I'll take my high-mileage 300SD to StarFest2006 in  
Las Vegas and run the road course Time Trials there.


Take care,

Chuck

On Dec 7, 2005, at 9:04 AM, Bob Rentfro wrote:


I'm sure, once we get something tenativly hammered out, Chuck would  
be happy
to speak to Mr. Frank Barrett.  Chuck is a very benevolent,  
diplomatic human.


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'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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Re: [MBZ] Arctic-Q...?

2005-12-07 Thread Bob Rentfro

I bet there's not much bio on the way...but I could be wrong.
Time to do a search.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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How about Willy Nelson's biodiesel company? There's somebody with
money and an actual link to the cause!

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 12/7/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Chris mentioned:

but we could still advertise the list with magnets on our cars...without
the list we'd all be on our own.


They do a thing out here each year, the Copperstate 1000 (or something 
like
that), which is not a rally...it's just vintage cars going roundy roundy 
in

Arizona. They have sponsors galore. I'd bet we'd be surprised at the
sponsors we could get. We'd have to think outside the box. I will get 
in

touch with those Copperstate dudes and ask them how they go about getting
sponsors for something that isn't a race or a rally. I'm sure they have 
good
ideas and methods. Our possibilities could be Mobil 1, Hengst/Mann 
Filters,
Bosch, Michelin, etc. Could go into REI (camping gear) and stuff like 
that.
I'm sure, once we get something tenativly hammered out, Chuck would be 
happy
to speak to Mr. Frank Barrett. Chuck is a very benevolent, diplomatic 
human.


Bob Rentfro (studying route to Deadhorse)
'77 300D 144K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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[MBZ] Credos

2005-12-07 Thread Jim Cathey

Hey, even if it _is_ junk doesn't mean it's bad either!
Amazing what you can do with junk sometimes.

-- Jim




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