Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
OY... one time I considered why not install a little LED text unit in the
rear window to tell those behind just what I thought... I rarely have
tailgaters as I do keep in the right lanes of the interstates and no one
seems interested in moving along at posted speed as I. I do remember in the
early 1980s when seems the old Audi 5000 and VW Rabbit could belch more
soot. I could put out quite a smoke screen if I geared just right (which
also involved having to switch the a/c compressor off on grades).

I guess more than tailgating I dislike being followed to closely at night
with the blue headlights glaring in the rearview mirror. It makes the
guage illumination more difficult... as I'm more often watching that I AM
making the speed rather than exceeding the limit. It's havoc on bifocals
with +10 lense. Can we say, Mr. Magoo?

   

 From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:23:56 -0600
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
 
 Tailgating is the quickest way to get under my skin when driving.  I don't
 care if you do stupid things when driving, but tailgating starts to endanger
 my car and my passengers.  That is crossing the line
 
 Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and very
 much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane.  I use
 aggressive tactics when the person comes within 1 car-length.  This includes
 abruptly slowing to match the speed of the car in the right lane.  This speed
 will be maintained until the offender backs off at least 2-3 car lengths at
 which point I will speed up and finish passing the car on the right.  Flashing
 your brights at me will lengthen the time taken to move ahead and over to the
 right.
 
 Another thing I tend to enjoy is closely watching the tailgater for that
 impatient move to pass me on the right.  As soon as they look over their
 shoulder and make that move to the right, my right turn signal comes on and I
 innocently make my move to the right lane.  This always adds to their level
 of anger and increases their blood pressure.
 
 My previous '83 SD would spit a bit of wet substance out the rear under full
 throttle and that was a WONDERFUL anti-tailgating feature.  More than once a
 person had backed off my bumper while running their wipers to remove this
 mist
 
 Luther, wishing for rotten egg or skunk sent to be released from my rear
 bumper
 
 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:59:15 -0600, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to
 go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
 Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
 there. It may help me understand.
 
 It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating
 was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for
 it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't
 personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of
 them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.
 
 To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in
 a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below
 depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).
 
 And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental
 Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a
 pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default.
 
 What say all?
 
 Brian
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
This was an old trick that I learned in 1978... driving a FWD land yacht
that everone mused why does he have snow tires on the front? There was
always some person who broke traction on ice uphill and caused a string of
cars to do the same. I decided there would be less damage to land softly in
a snowbank than to have another vehicle sled into the side of me.

OH... the untraveled... I also learned the benefits of hanging wheels in
curves or to add traction driving just on the shoulders where the tires
could grip. First rule of driving in snow? Stop at the store and buy a
carton of eggs. Place them under the brake and accelerator pedals.

On a night like tonight I sometimes open a window so I can hear some poor
fool thinking if they floor the accelerator they might melt enough ice to
move another inch.

 

 From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:29:33 -0800
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
 
 In snow I'll elect to take the less travelled goat paths to
 avoid impatient drivers or those not equipped for the conditions.
 
 I find that conditions are usually _better_ on an untraveled,
 unplowed road, at least until the belly of the car starts
 dragging.  Not much of a problem with slipperiness or lack
 of control.  (Until it starts to get packed down into ice.)
 Better scenery, better control, lack of idiots.  What's not
 to like?
 
 -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah and that is what was said last time, right before it started to get 
nasty.

Hendrik

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 We aren't. Instead, we shall discuss facts. No politics, just facts.

 On Jan 30, 2008 10:40 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I thought we were not going to talk politics on here.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
AH... admitting to a liability! Only time I put up a beware of dog sign
was at a house where I didn't have a dog.

To connect the tailgating OT rant with the one about mental illness, why not
just do a bumper sticker about Psychotics Annon or I'm schitzophrenic and
so am I ?  My Rice Crispies will tell me who you are.

 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:31:30 -0800
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
 
 Yeah, I know. Same thing with posting a beware of dog sign. Could be argued
 that you knew a danger existed.
 Brian
 
 On Jan 30, 2008 11:26 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 You need to put a sticker on the back that says in very small writing
 I
 kill tailgaters for fun and pleasure
 
 My my, such violence!
 
 If you actually _did_ manage to have some such fun and pleasure,
 the presence of said sticker would not look well for you in one
 of our many fine courts that are here to serve us.  (On toast.)
 
 -- Jim
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Kraly
My dad has a 3/8 pneumatic impact ratchet that's done lots of work in those 
places where a conventional inpact (butterfly?) won't fit.  It's a name 
brand tool although I can't remember the brand, and he got it used from a 
friend about 20 years ago.  It is still working well, but that $9.95 HF 
cheapie would be a good investment for me.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it 2

2008-01-31 Thread Zoltan Finks
We get it. You are an Autobahn god. Wherever it is that you need to go that
causes you to drive in a perpetual frenzied state, please go there.
Brian

On Jan 30, 2008 8:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just ignore the first one, sent in error.
 
  Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you
 want to
  go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
 
  Your right? Hardly. When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly
 than
 the rest of the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they
 are
 oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a traffic
 hazard they are. And in Washington State, tailgating is illegal and the
 WSP thinks
 it's a sign of road rage (term du jour lately) and you will be cited.

  It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances,
 tailgating
  was a sign of aggression. snip But now it seems as I'm tailgated every
  single time I drive.
 
 Which seems to indicate that you are a rolling road block.
 
  The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of
 them
  have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.
 
 You are confronting people? How? That's how people get shot.
 
  To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly -
 just
 in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5
 below
  depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).
 
 Which includes the in-town portions of the Interstate, I assume, where
 moving
 traffic along is the whole idea.
 
  And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs,
 Environm
  ental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing
 to be a
  pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by
 default.
 
 Your job, when you are out there with the rest of us, is to move it. When
 the
 light goes green, be ready to go, accellerating to the speed limit when
 possible. That technique, in today's packed streets, allows the rest of us
 behind
 you to make it through before the red appears. And then, there we sit,
 engines
 idling, waiting and fuming. THAT is the environmental impact of pokey
 drivers.

 Just today I made a trip from North Seattle to Kent on I-5 and the free
 flowing traffic speed was about 70mph (limit 60) and I (and many others)
 had to
 maneuver around a few cars running below 60mph. Oblivious.

 RLE
 
 




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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Kraly
when seems the old Audi 5000 and VW Rabbit could belch more soot.

There don't seem to be very many Audi 5000 Diesels rolling around anymore. 
I know of one that has been coming up on CL for $1300 or so.  It has ugly 
paint and some sort of fuel delivery problem (associated to bioD most 
likely).  They definitely have a different 5cyl sound from that of the 
300D/SD.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it 2.65

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik Fay
I don't do it so much these days but back in my motorcycling days I used 
to make sure all the idiots actually stopped (or are about to stop) for 
their red light before I set off.
You'd be amazed how many people run red lights, sometimes not even on 
purpose.
This is one of the things they teach you in defensive driving course, 
assume everyone else on the road is a complete idiot.
Then there are the f wits in squashed bugs who think because they have a 
fast car they can turn off before others set off, the one I saw doing 
that got away with it but I was praying a tunnel vision ricer was going 
to collect him and his expensive car. I would have loved to give details 
to the cops about how Mr fancy car failed to give way but it was not to 
be :'(

Hendrik
no accidents for quite some time and all points on the license

Zoltan Finks wrote:
 We get it. You are an Autobahn god. Wherever it is that you need to go that
 causes you to drive in a perpetual frenzied state, please go there.
 Brian
SNIPPED
 default.
   
 Your job, when you are out there with the rest of us, is to move it. When
 the
 light goes green, be ready to go, accellerating to the speed limit when
 possible. That technique, in today's packed streets, allows the rest of us
 behind
 you to make it through before the red appears. And then, there we sit,
 engines
 idling, waiting and fuming. THAT is the environmental impact of pokey
 drivers.

 Just today I made a trip from North Seattle to Kent on I-5 and the free
 flowing traffic speed was about 70mph (limit 60) and I (and many others)
 had to
 maneuver around a few cars running below 60mph. Oblivious.

 RLE

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Timothy makes some great points - especially about treating older people as 
we'd like our parents to be treated.

I never tailgate, but when I come upon someine in the passing lane I often 
flash my lights  - not that they would know what they means.   Then I wait 
for them to move over.  Not that I have someplace to be I just happen to 
enjoy driving fast.

But I also try to avoid driving at times then I am likely to be caught in 
heavy traffic - 7-9AM and 3-6pm being the times I avoid the most.  But to me 
TG'g is one of the most dangerous acts there are  - the other being stopping 
in the on ramp to the Interstate.

As far as young drivers who are often inpatient, yep, that seems to be the 
case.  It must be great to be young and have great reflexes!   I had them 
once. ;-\But I don;t think they get good driving classes - they can pass 
the test but are not taught to drive, IMHO.

Actually I think about my driving habits often.  I've wanted a 911 (and a 
Cobra, GT40, Ferrari, etc) for as long as I was driving - and now that I 
realize what kind of driver I would have been if I'd been able to drive one 
of them it probably would have killed me.  We owned a '71 VW Beetle for 
years and I used to drive it like it was a 911 and I flog that little car 
pretty hard.

Take care ya'll -- 

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- Original Message - 
From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:09 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant


I don't like being pushed. I drive conservatively (no political reference
 intended). I get tired of kids tailgating or zooming around me or 
 passing
 impatiently on the mountain two lane... still, I can smoke 'em if I want
 to.

 Uncles, dad, etc. drive under the speed limit at leisure on the nine mile
 two lane going toward the main highway. It's not uncommon to see a string 
 of
 a dozen cars behind them as they drive 35mph in a 45 zone.

 I try NOT to tailgate as: #1. That could be my parents in front of me and
 I'd hope others would be considerate. #2. With age, eyesight, diminished
 reaction time; I don't want to pressure someone to drive faster than their
 ability. It kinda boils down to manners. I'd no sooner tailgate than I'd
 push through a line at the JS Cafeteria during the early bird special.

 I'm only 48 y/o but I remember when I was always in a hurry, under 
 pressure
 and maxed out as it seems most people on the highway are today. When I
 zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, sunroof open, heat on max, NPR
 (Car Talk) blaring, I'm amazed the cars passing in a blink like they 
 have
 someplace busy to be. Sometimes I'm tempted to honk and wave when I see 
 them
 pulled by a blue light ahead.



 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:59:15 -0800
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

 Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want 
 to
 go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
 Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
 there. It may help me understand.

 It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating
 was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot 
 for
 it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't
 personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most 
 of
 them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.

 To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just 
 in
 a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 
 below
 depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).

 And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, 
 Environmental
 Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a
 pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default.

 What say all?

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT: all inclusive politics

2008-01-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote:
 president in January 2009.  There are benefits to a two party system,
 ...Utopias don't exist.  Would you rather have Hillary or [Romney
 | McCain | Huckabee].  Because it WILL be one of them in January.

I really couldn't care less which of those socialists is POTUS next.
And that is why, if the two arms of the current one party system
give me choices from that list, I won't be voting for that system. 
If I wanted to choose from that list I'd vote Billary back in office,
because they would enjoy far less Congressional support than most. 

I've only voted for one republicrat party presidential candidate
in my life, and I chose the greatest of all evils. It really didn't
matter, my state's vote went to AlGoreJr, but I still hate myself
now for having cast a vote for a president who has done more than
any single man since FDR to expand our goverment outside of its
Constitutional restraints, and for the man who has done more than
any man in our nation's history to destroy the Bill of Rights.  
If National Socialism is what we can expect from the so-called
Republican Party, I fail to see how Hillary's brand of Marxism
could be any worse. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Allan wrote:many things that may be intended as a courtesy,
 including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way.

Amen to That!  There's nothing worse than coming upon a car stopped in the 
middle of the road letting someone  out of a sidestreet - when doing the 
proper thing and maintaining right of way would have kept all traffic moving 
safely.  Arrr!  it'sinfuriating just thinking about the instances where 
that's happened.  Perhaps *most* irritating is when a car stops and lets 20 
school buses pull out in front of a few cars.  Turns a nice morning into a 
brutal drive - where leaving early to beat the buses is completely 
frustrated by a considerate driver.


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 On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of
 the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are
 oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a
 traffic hazard they are.

 Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard.
 This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy,
 including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way.

 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
The speed limits on Interstates vary by location - lowest usually being 55 
and 75 being the highest.   For instance, here, I95 just outside or town, as 
you get closer it drops to 60 then down to 55.

I've heard Montana or Wy has some relaxed enforcement.  ;-)

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From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant


 Timothy R. wrote: When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, 
 sunroof open, . . .

 Are you being sarcastic when you say zoom along at 60 mph? On an 
 interstate?  That is NOT zooming along. I don't drive slower than 75 on 
 the interstate - the speed limit is 70, isn't it?

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread OK Don
OK - I've learned yet another thing on this list! Four seconds it is.


 I took a Lab-sponsored defensive driving course -- they said four seconds.


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing
I've often thought how much better off we'd all be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 
years off - an extended vacation perhaps.  No bills would be passed - 
unless some emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-)

I know, it'd never work.

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From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] all inclusive


 No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

 On Jan 30, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And that would be different how

 
  Perhaps impeachable offenses but it won't happen during an election
 cycle
  -- it would bring Congress to a grinding halt.
 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Mitch Haley
Zoltan Finks wrote:
 And yes, the amount tailgating gets under my skin is directly proportionate
 to how much I like the car I'm driving, or whom I have as passengers.

The last time I got severely pissed at a tailgater was probably over
ten years ago. Oh, crap, there's great aunt Vera's car in front of
me doing 35. Oh, well, her house is only a mile away. So I'm tooling
along at 35 in fourth, hanging far enough back that I won't have
to brake when we get to her house. An Eclipse goes past me, slams
on the brakes and sits 10-15' off this 85 year old woman's bumper. 
Now this particular old woman is one of my mom's favorite aunts. 

The carfull of morons nearly stops as she makes her turn, then
whips out into the left lane, with me on their bumper. 15 seconds
later, we're going down this narrow two lane road at about 80, 
with my car 20-30' behind theirs. It was nerve-wracking to me,
and I hope it was for them too. I intended to do the 10' that
they had done, but I just couldn't do it, too scary. A couple
of miles later we came to a stop sign, they turned right, I
turned left. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Hi Richard,
Sounds like you were lucky to come out without getting hurt.  Hopefully they 
can keep some of your identifying info from him - he sounds like someone who 
likes to do stupid things.  You might want a restraining order forcing him 
to keep his distance.

Or maybe I;m overreacting -

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- Original Message - 
From: Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:03 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant


 Interesting that you ask this question.

 Just yesterday I was being tailgated by an F150. I was in my 300D right 
 lane
 of I-40 here in OKC in a left hand curve we call the Tinker diagonal. He 
 was
 so close all I could see was grill. I was doing 60, speed limit was 50, 
 left
 lane was doing maybe 5mph faster than me. I let off the gas and slowed to
 50. I just new trouble was coming. He whipped into the left lane, got
 halfway past me, then started changing lanes right into me. While there is 
 a
 shoulder there it was covered with salt and sand from our last freeze. I
 just knew if I got on that I would slide right into the concrete barrier,
 and he would drive off and I would be left with a totaled car that I only
 carry liability insurance on. I stayed in my lane and got on the breaks 
 (abs
 seems to work just fine), but he was still going to hit me unless I headed
 for the barrier. Well I held my lane. His right rear clipped my front 
 left.

 Two people stopped and left me names and numbers. The highway patrolman
 called them and the both said pretty much what I had already told the
 officer, but one of them did say she was in the left lane and the truck
 could not have been more than 2 feet off my bumper.

 Now I am going to have to find a new left front finder, turn signal, and
 headlight. He on the other hand is going to have to replace his totaled
 truck, and pay about $400 in tickets, and probably higher insurance
 premiums. He ended up on the shoulder and slide right into that concrete
 barrier.

 So no, I do not think it is ever acceptable to tailgate. That being said I
 have done it, and plan to give myself a timeout if I ever do it again!!!

 On 1/30/08, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want 
 to
 go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
 Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
 there. It may help me understand.

 It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating
 was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot
 for
 it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't
 personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most
 of
 them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.

 To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just
 in
 a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5
 below
 depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).

 And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs,
 Environmental
 Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a
 pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default.

 What say all?

 Brian
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
My travelled stretch of I-40 is under perpetualy construction. Most of
that construction is going on at night... so seems when there's not a
bottleneck of traffic it's a work zone with speeds posted 50 mph.

A section of my drive crosses the Biltmore Estate (and vineyards). Having
killed one deer in the past, I'm always paranoid at night as the deer come
from nowhere.

 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:11:34 -0500
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
 
 The speed limits on Interstates vary by location - lowest usually being 55
 and 75 being the highest.   For instance, here, I95 just outside or town, as
 you get closer it drops to 60 then down to 55.
 
 I've heard Montana or Wy has some relaxed enforcement.  ;-)
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:24 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
 
 
 Timothy R. wrote: When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane,
 sunroof open, . . .
 
 Are you being sarcastic when you say zoom along at 60 mph? On an
 interstate?  That is NOT zooming along. I don't drive slower than 75 on
 the interstate - the speed limit is 70, isn't it?
 
 Donald H. Snook
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson


 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:20:38 -0500
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
 
 We owned a '71 VW Beetle for
 years and I used to drive it like it was a 911 and I flog that little car
 pretty hard.

When I was young with the reflexes.. I once owned a 1976 VW SuperBettle.
Always felt like I had to lead the pack on the highway. I'd open the
sunroof, turn the aftermarket 8 track loud (hate to admit, Barry Manilow)
and drive like a Golden Eagle pusher with the sound of the engine at the
rear. 


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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Don wrote:having vote after vote to bring the 
\
Ahh... our tax dollars hard at work.  How could they have the power to give 
themselves raises?Seems like there was something in the Constitution 
about that?  Hmm.. there were originally 12 articles in the Bill of rights - 
maybe that was one of the 2 that were dropped.  My memory is failng me. ;-\

Add that power to their tremendous retirement and it's no wonder people go 
to such extremes to get elected then to stay elected.


Thankfully there are a few who are there for the right reason.

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- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] all inclusive


 Lt Don wrote: No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

 Just make Nancy Pelosi the permanent Speaker of the House. Since the new 
 congress has taken over they have not accomplished ANYTHING other than 
 having vote after vote to bring the troops back from Iraq. How many times 
 do they have to have these symbolic votes when they have not changed the 
 positions of anyone who voted the last time.  Regardless of your position 
 on Iraq, does it make sense to keep having the same vote over and over 
 when the result is already decided.

 Check out how many of Nancy's promises she has kept.  I am sure you can 
 google it and check your own sources. I think the first one she broke was 
 the work 5 days a week promise. That one was dismantled two weeks into 
 the session.

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
Saw it the other morning. A considerate driver stopped in traffic to
motion another driver in. The other driver assumed the considerate driver
had check traffic in all six lanes for her so when she shot through the
opening crossing other lanes she was T boned. Snarled morning rush hour
for us all.

There used to be a practice (incorrect) called courtesy signaling where
some driver thought it was their duty to use turn signals to alert everyone
behind the intention of drivers in front?



 From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:25:12 -0500
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
 
 Allan wrote:many things that may be intended as a courtesy,
 including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way.
 
 Amen to That!  There's nothing worse than coming upon a car stopped in the
 middle of the road letting someone  out of a sidestreet - when doing the
 proper thing and maintaining right of way would have kept all traffic moving
 safely.  Arrr!  it'sinfuriating just thinking about the instances where
 that's happened.  Perhaps *most* irritating is when a car stops and lets 20
 school buses pull out in front of a few cars.  Turns a nice morning into a
 brutal drive - where leaving early to beat the buses is completely
 frustrated by a considerate driver.
 
 
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 - Original Message -
 From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
 
 
 
 On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of
 the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are
 oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a
 traffic hazard they are.
 
 Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard.
 This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy,
 including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way.
 
 Allan
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
And let him know you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson.

--R

LarryT wrote:
 You might want a restraining order forcing him 
 to keep his distance.
   


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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Allan Streib
Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate
 and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left
 lane.

Then move right.  If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you
need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at
the next safe opportunity.  Ideally you are aware enough of traffic
behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated.

The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and
someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed.  It doesn't matter
how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to enforce
speed limits.

Allan
-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The 2nd drive is actually my old hard drive. When I got a new one I 
installed the new one as master, old one as slave and copied everything 
over.  At one time it DID show up like it was supposed to.  For some 
reason it dropped off and I have never messed with fixing it until now. 
  Yes, its formatted and has things installed on it.

LarryT wrote:
 Hi Kaleb,
 When you installed the 2nd HD did you move the jumper so the 2nd was set 
 to Slave and the other HD was set to Master?
 The HD usually has instructions on top for where to put the jumpers -
 
 Has the new HD been formatted?  Then again it;s hard to format it without a 
 drive letter.  Did the HD come with a CD?
 
 Also, if that doesnt work, you may need to change the settings in the BIOS. 
 But let some computer whiz here talk you thru it before you attempt 
 anything - you can mess up things *real* bad by changing the wrong thing.
 
 Hopefully the jumper thing will help -
 
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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote:
 
 Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing
 I've often thought how much better off we'd all be if lawmakers took 5 or 10
 years off - an extended vacation perhaps.  No bills would be passed -
 unless some emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-)

First pass one bill, invalidating all federal legislation (and illegal
executive orders) enacted in the past 100 years. Then take a vacation
for five or ten years to see what might really need changing.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, I converted to dynamic, then it let me assign a drive letter.  Now 
it shows up and I can get to my old files, actually, just what was on 
that drive, which will probably be wiped out.  Have no idea what 
converting it to dynamic does or means, but it seems to work.

dave walton wrote:
 Double check that you are logged in as Administrator.
 
 Also - where you right-click is important. I'm talking about the lower
 right window under Disk management under Computer Management.
 Clicking in the column that shows Disk 0, Disk 1 (leftmost column
 in the lower right window) will allow you to change disk properties
 like basic/dynamic and MBR/GPT.
 Clicking to the right of that column will allow you to change volume
 info. That's where you define volumes, format, and assign drive
 letters.
 
 If there is nothing you need to save on the drive, might as well try
 changing it to dynamic.
 If there is stuff you need to save, you might be screwed. Maybe attach
 it to whatever it was working on last and pull a backup?
 
 -Dave Walton

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Re: [MBZ] Why?

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts 
I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car.  That is where I bought a 
$2000 94 E420 a while back.

LWB250 wrote:
 That reminds me that I need to go empty some
 mailboxes.  I never look at the crap from their list
 unless someone pipes up and points out something
 interesting.
 
 I should stick my head out from one of the accounts I
 have and say Hi! to Stu and crispy pancake Hank just
 to stir things up.
 
 Dan
 
 
 --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I got you beat poosy, I was banned, then I was back,
 then Hank pissed me 
 off so I unsubscribed myself, but Stu claims I was
 banned when in 
 reality I left on my own.  Well, not sure that
 really beats you but 
 interesting none the less.
 
 
 
   
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Here is the thing about this -- this guy is a dumbass who endangered 
himself and others on the highway, at high speeds, despite rules and 
regulations and common sense that say don't do stupid sh*t like that.  
So, you gotta ask yourself, will a restraining order have any effect on 
a stupid dumbass like that, who has already demonstrated absolutely no 
concern for himself or others, or their property or safety?  If the 
answer to that is the apparent one, then one needs to be prepared to 
deal with it, whether by driving a safe car in a defensive manner, or by 
having the means to deal with other stupid dumbass behavior like a 
direct assault on you (without a car around you for protection) in your 
driveway or home.  No one else is going to be around protecting you 
minute to minute, and, unfortunately, even stupid dumbasses like that 
know that and take advantage of it, as he did with his truck on the highway.

I would not wish anyone to be the victim of people like that, but the 
unfortunate reality is that they are all around, and have absolutely no 
constraints on their behavior as most of us do.  We like to think they 
do, but they don't.  In general the risk is pretty low that you will 
have to deal with a random act, but when some dumbass like that has been 
goaded on by the consequences of his stupid actions, to do even more 
stupid actions, not random, then the risk goes way up.  That is reality.

My parents got victimized significantly by a group of caregivers they 
had in their home, lost a lot of money.  I got to sit in court many 
mornings dealing with this.  I got a real education about the world most 
of us never have to deal with, and I was shocked at how pervasive 
lowlife behavior is.  Talking with the prosecutors shocked me even more, 
because they have so much stuff to deal with, only the really violent 
cases are given much effort, and the others are sent on their way with 
probation deals or fines or whatever (no room to lock them up), and then 
they are back again next month for not complying, or some other stupid 
(worse) thing they have done.  Scary stuff but that is reality.

--R

LarryT wrote:
 Rich wrote you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson

 Couldn't have said it better myself -- 

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant


   
 And let him know you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson.

 --R

 LarryT wrote:
 
 You might want a restraining order forcing him 
 to keep his distance.
   

   
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Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up

2008-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
Check to make sure the power settings are not turning it off.

--R

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 The 2nd drive is actually my old hard drive. When I got a new one I 
 installed the new one as master, old one as slave and copied everything 
 over.  At one time it DID show up like it was supposed to.  For some 
 reason it dropped off and I have never messed with fixing it until now. 
   Yes, its formatted and has things installed on it.

   


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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread John Robbins
Donald Snook wrote:
 If you are talking about in town, then my answer is no. I don't
 tailgate. HOWEVER, if you are talking about the highway, my answer
 changes.  If I am on the highway and someone is in the LEFT lane,
 then I will get behind you. I won't tailgate initially.  I will
 probably flash my lights and if the car persists in driving in the
 left lane, then I will creep up until they move.  Some might not like
 it, but, I think the left lane is for passing.  If a car is behind
 you in the left lane, you should get over and let them pass!  The
 left lane is for temporary use when you are passing.

That about sums up my driving habits on the matter.

John


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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Rich wrote you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson

Couldn't have said it better myself -- 

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 And let him know you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson.
 
 --R
 
 LarryT wrote:
 You might want a restraining order forcing him 
 to keep his distance.
   

 
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Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Actually, June is when the OkieQ is.  As for what Lt Admiral Wacko does, 
I have no clue

Loren Faeth wrote:
 Both Kaleb and Ed's comments are right on.  However, I was on the RE 
 list for a short time long ago, and I quit because of the high number 
 of postings and the fact that none had any relevance to either my 110 
 200Ds or my 123 240D at the time.  The RE list was/is for people with 
 new cars (my definition is anything less than 15-20 years old is a 
 new car.) and the discussion is mainly about whether to hand buff 
 with merino wool buffer or Suffolk wool buffer.  etc etc.
 
 As Kaleb said, this is a community, but the lack of MB content has me 
 reading few posts and wondering if I should unsubscribe for a 
 while.  OTOH, this list has saved me lots of time and money, and I 
 have developed many friendships here.  I have now actually met 3 
 members and a lurker face to face.  Now if LT would schedule the next 
 IOWEQ in June, I could meet a few more.
 
 Viva la Community!
 
 Loren Faeth
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac OSX question

2008-01-31 Thread Allan Streib
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Sufficient keyboard shortcuts should exist for the common button
 actions, let the rare ones require pointer motion.

I'd be fine with that but take it a bit further, I think there should
*always* be a keyboard shortcut for any button, common or no.  In this
case there did not seem to be one so I enabled the button tabbing
behavior option.

 I want tabs to work from text entry to text entry, which is what the
 Mac originally did and is I'm sure the motivation behind the
 behavior you don't like.

Well they seem to have made everyone happy, by making either behavior
possible by means of a Preference setting.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Thats where I am clicking and the only option it gives me there is to 
delete partion.  The change drive letter option is not available.  I am 
doing the dynamic convert thing now and see what happens.

dave walton wrote:
 Double check that you are logged in as Administrator.
 
 Also - where you right-click is important. I'm talking about the lower
 right window under Disk management under Computer Management.
 Clicking in the column that shows Disk 0, Disk 1 (leftmost column
 in the lower right window) will allow you to change disk properties
 like basic/dynamic and MBR/GPT.
 Clicking to the right of that column will allow you to change volume
 info. That's where you define volumes, format, and assign drive
 letters.
 
 If there is nothing you need to save on the drive, might as well try
 changing it to dynamic.
 If there is stuff you need to save, you might be screwed. Maybe attach
 it to whatever it was working on last and pull a backup?
 
 -Dave Walton

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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Why do almost all of my posts to mercedes@okiebenz.com keep getting returned as failure to del

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Your post came thru just fine.  Any sort of problem like that would need 
to be addressed with your ISP

RICHARD FIne wrote:
 I am basically unable to post on this site... 
  
 Rick
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up

2008-01-31 Thread dave walton
Sweet! That is a new set of symptoms for me. Learn something new every
day - at least on a good day.

-Dave Walton

On Jan 31, 2008 10:17 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 OK, I converted to dynamic, then it let me assign a drive letter.  Now
 it shows up and I can get to my old files, actually, just what was on
 that drive, which will probably be wiped out.  Have no idea what
 converting it to dynamic does or means, but it seems to work.

 dave walton wrote:
  Double check that you are logged in as Administrator.
 
  Also - where you right-click is important. I'm talking about the lower
  right window under Disk management under Computer Management.
  Clicking in the column that shows Disk 0, Disk 1 (leftmost column
  in the lower right window) will allow you to change disk properties
  like basic/dynamic and MBR/GPT.
  Clicking to the right of that column will allow you to change volume
  info. That's where you define volumes, format, and assign drive
  letters.
 
  If there is nothing you need to save on the drive, might as well try
  changing it to dynamic.
  If there is stuff you need to save, you might be screwed. Maybe attach
  it to whatever it was working on last and pull a backup?
 
  -Dave Walton
 
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   94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
   91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Your dad was a dentist?  I come from a long line of dentists.

OK Don wrote:
 I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is
 there a chance that it would be useful?
 
 Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran
 in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of
 then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven
 years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low
 pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is
 safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house
 for the rest of the day and praying?
 

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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
I work in/commute to a little seasonal tourist town in the mountains. In the
summer the population increases ten fold with out of state summer residents,
mostly retired.

Most transient visitors soon discover how strict the local law enforcement
is on posted speed limits. Can we say, speed trap?

For the most part I make note of the state of origin on the license plate in
front of me and the fact that the car probably has a handicapped flag on
the rear view mirror. That's usually a clue to anticipate anything and be
prepared. Always avoid the other car's blint spot as the far right lane is
the favored left turning lane across five lanes. Also, if a car is equipped
with turn signals they're either not used or their purpose is only to remind
the driver of which direction they ultimately intend to drive.

 

 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:42:49 -0600
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks
 
 A few taps on the brake will usually get those people off your rear
 
 Rich Thomas wrote:
 So today I was driving through our little community in the truck.  Drove
 past this gorgeous house that was the first $1M house in the area,  It
 is a beautiful house, not that I would have paid that for it, but
 whatever.  Have seen signs of habitation but never the inhabitants.  As
 I was driving by, the garage door opens and a big Lexus SUV starts
 backing out.  An absolutely totally stunningly gorgeous young woman
 driving it, I toot the horn as she is just backing right out into the
 street.  She looks pissed but stops and then backs out behind me.
 Anyway, she follows me for the next several minutes as we drive through
 the community, stop lights, stop signs, school zone, people walking,
 etc.  I usually drive slowly just because it is my community and I don't
 like being a bad citizen in that regard.  The whole time she is right on
 my rear bumper, like it is going to get her wherever she is going any
 faster.  I was having some fantasies that she was really trying to keep
 up with me so she could follow me home, but then I woke upand
 figured daddy was better off than me, so I stood no chance.
 
 In this case, I did not mind as my mirrors were functioning well and it
 gave me a chance for contemplation
 
 --R
 
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Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying.  I have no 
clue what your problem is but I suspect it involves your ISP.  Problems 
with list issues should NOT be posted to the list, but rather sent to 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or to me offlist.  You are more than welcome to 
forward one of these bounces to me and I will see if I can be of help. 
Most likely I will not be able to though.

KAleb

RICHARD FIne wrote:
 I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this is 
 the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that?
  
 The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't 
 post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions 
 are bounced back to me... this is intentional?
 I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have 
 a problem now?
  
  
 Rick
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
YEP!!  You leave enough distance between you and the car in front of you 
and never fails some asshole will come on over and you are right on 
their rear, you have to slow way down to give you more room.  Then, the 
cycle starts all over.

Hendrik  Fay wrote:
 You need to put a sticker on the back that says in very small writing I 
 kill tailgaters for fun and pleasure
 The problem is that if you leave reaction distance, some clown will 
 invariably jump lanes into it.
 
 Hendrik
 who has learned to switch off to other road users behavior, well 
 actually no, that's not quite true
 
 Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to
 go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
 Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
 there. It may help me understand.

 It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating
 was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for
 it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't
 personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of
 them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.

 To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in
 a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below
 depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).

 And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental
 Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a
 pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default.

 What say all?

 Brian

   
 
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
A few taps on the brake will usually get those people off your rear

Rich Thomas wrote:
 So today I was driving through our little community in the truck.  Drove 
 past this gorgeous house that was the first $1M house in the area,  It 
 is a beautiful house, not that I would have paid that for it, but 
 whatever.  Have seen signs of habitation but never the inhabitants.  As 
 I was driving by, the garage door opens and a big Lexus SUV starts 
 backing out.  An absolutely totally stunningly gorgeous young woman 
 driving it, I toot the horn as she is just backing right out into the 
 street.  She looks pissed but stops and then backs out behind me.  
 Anyway, she follows me for the next several minutes as we drive through 
 the community, stop lights, stop signs, school zone, people walking, 
 etc.  I usually drive slowly just because it is my community and I don't 
 like being a bad citizen in that regard.  The whole time she is right on 
 my rear bumper, like it is going to get her wherever she is going any 
 faster.  I was having some fantasies that she was really trying to keep 
 up with me so she could follow me home, but then I woke upand 
 figured daddy was better off than me, so I stood no chance.
 
 In this case, I did not mind as my mirrors were functioning well and it 
 gave me a chance for contemplation
 
 --R
 
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
No, they do not have the right to tailgate you, they can go around when 
it is safe to do so.

Zoltan Finks wrote:
 Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to
 go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
 Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
 there. It may help me understand.
 
 It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating
 was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for
 it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't
 personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of
 them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.
 
 To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in
 a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below
 depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).
 
 And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental
 Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a
 pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default.
 
 What say all?
 
 Brian
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
OK, starting to get too much politics going on the list.  Thats one of 
the only things we do not allow, so lets cut it out and get back to 
either MB or other OT things.
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  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
That really hacks me off either when somebody has the right of way and 
stops to let me know, or stops in front of me to let somebody else out. 
  I am sure they are just trying to be nice but it really causes problems.

Allan Streib wrote:
 On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of  
 the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are  
 oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a  
 traffic hazard they are.
 
 Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard.   
 This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy,  
 including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way.
 
 Allan
 
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[MBZ] OT Topics

2008-01-31 Thread wilton strickland
Wonko/LT Don, you may not have retired as an admiral for the same reasons I
didn't retire as a general.  I didn't put up with any BS, and I didn't stand
at the bar every afternoon (actually, not any) with The General.

Wilton, lowly LTCOL (Ret)


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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread Timothy Robinson
There's something painful about reading 3/8 air ratchet and dentist in
the same post...

 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:38:12 -0600
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
 
 Your dad was a dentist?  I come from a long line of dentists.
 
 OK Don wrote:
 I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is
 there a chance that it would be useful?
 
 Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran
 in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of
 then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven
 years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low
 pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is
 safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house
 for the rest of the day and praying?
 
 
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 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four

2008-01-31 Thread R A Bennell
My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me 
nervous too. I tried to find out how to
test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I 
remember way back when, the govt sent
around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the 
sound. I am told that the proper way
is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way 
beyond normal with water. If it has any
faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently.

My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head 
and motor etc to the new tank. No
problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly.

Randy

-Original Message-
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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four


I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is
there a chance that it would be useful?

Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran
in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of
then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven
years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low
pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is
safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house
for the rest of the day and praying?

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Norman, OK
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[MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG

2008-01-31 Thread Walt Lasher
.

4. RE: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro
Diesel Scores 41 MPG
About time USA finds out about european diesel cars. We are about 15
years behind ( light years). How about Jetta wagon TDI @ 50 mpg combined
driving, 2 people. I hope politicians and special interest groups will allow
progress to follow its natural course( Kalifornia) one day..

3. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel
Scores 41 MPG
Having long ago fallen into love with 5 speed Audit A4 TDI, I can't
wait to see a quality diesel with manual transmission available stateside.
There is nothing like driving a car with heaps of torque. Please make the
wagon available. Although I wonder if Honda's decision to bring diesel
Accord to US shores has influenced MB or VW?

2. RE: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro
Diesel Scores 41 MPG
maybe we would pay fuel less than we do now! So you really think
fuel is expensive? Here at germany we had prices of over 7.5 USD per gallon.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. We'd love to pay your
rates for fuel.

1. RE: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro
Diesel Scores 41 MPG
I am living in Montgomery, Alabama, but originall coming fom Europe,
actually Bosnia where my parents drive Skoda Octvia(which is VW Jetta) 1.9
tdi and Lancia Lybra 2.4jtd five cilynder diesel. I went this winter
ovethere and was skiing and with Skoda got regullary 50mpg, although I was
driving to ski resorts that are on some 4,000 feet altitude. My next car
here will be diesel, becase of tarque and savings. If the United States
switch to diesel like Europe did, maybe we would pay fuel less than we do
now!

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[MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Bob Granger
I used to drive an '89 Honda Accord and for some reason the windshield washers 
on that particular car worked extremely well for the Accord but also for anyone 
following it.  I used to get a lot of amusement, when someone was following me 
a little too close for comfort ,when I washed my windshield and then watch them 
backoff and see their windshield wipers activate.  Ah, sweet revenge.  It was 
even better if their car was clean.

Bob Granger
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Big Bertha rides!

2008-01-31 Thread Jim Cathey
Once more into the breach?  The power just went out again.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list

2008-01-31 Thread Harry Watkins
Please.

On Jan 31, 2008 9:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 OK, starting to get too much politics going on the list.  Thats one of
 the only things we do not allow, so lets cut it out and get back to
 either MB or other OT things.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I agree, I just maintain my speed and move back over to the right after 
passing when I can.

Allan Streib wrote:
 Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate
 and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left
 lane.
 
 Then move right.  If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you
 need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at
 the next safe opportunity.  Ideally you are aware enough of traffic
 behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated.
 
 The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and
 someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed.  It doesn't matter
 how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to enforce
 speed limits.
 
 Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Was off topic posts, now ADD

2008-01-31 Thread Barry Stark
Larry -

ADD/ADHD is very real though, yes, it is quite often misdiagnosed. Also, it
definitely is not just a kid thing. Your best bet is a psychiatrist who
specializes in ADD/ADHD. There is a very good series of books by MDs Edward
Hallowell  John Ratey on the subject that will likely answer most anyone's
questions. I would start with their book Driven to Distraction. If you
think that you, or someone that you care about, may have this malady, then
read the book or have them read it. If you do truly have it, as I do, then
reading the book can make a very positive change in how you view yourself
and those that must interface with you. It may also help save your marriage
as those of us that are affected by this can sometimes unintentionally be
slowly driving our spouses a little nuts. Spouses should definitely read the
book. That is a MUST so they have some understanding of what to expect and
how to deal with it. Another good place to get answers to questions can be
your local chapter of CHADD. As far as how long it takes for the diagnosis.
I went to a lunch hour talk that some CHADD folks put on at work and after
listening to what some of those folks were saying I went away saying to
myself hey, that's me, they're describing me! I was smart enough to follow
up and take a battery of tests that took a few hours and then a couple of
sessions with a shrink to discuss the results and things that I could do to
help me better cope with the challenges one must face daily. My advice to
anyone that thinks that they, or someone they care about, may have this is
to at least read the book and educate yourself enough to decide if there is
really something there. The worst thing think you can do is to sweep it
under the rug, if it is truly there, because just knowing why you are the
way you are can change your life for the better. Doing it early on can
possibly prevent a lot of damage to the affected person's psyche and yes
there invariably will be increasing damage over the span of time. If any one
out there wants to talk about this more you are welcome to ask me and I will
answer to the extent of my limited knowledge. I am not a shrink, nor do I
play one on TV.  :^) Possibly this would be better off list unless there is
some general list interest.

Barry




Just curious, who typically diagnoses a child as ADD/ADHD/PMS/SEL/Whatever?
;-)
How long does it take and what is the process?

Larry



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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Bill Ringgold
What Donald said [I usually take the advice of lawyers].
BillR

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Sent: 1/30/08 10:03 PM
Subject: [MBZ]  OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

Brian wrote:  Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than 
you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick 
question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help 
me understand.

If you are talking about in town, then my answer is no. I don't tailgate. 
HOWEVER, if you are talking about the highway, my answer changes.  If I am on 
the highway and someone is in the LEFT lane, then I will get behind you. I 
won't tailgate initially.  I will probably flash my lights and if the car 
persists in driving in the left lane, then I will creep up until they move.  
Some might not like it, but, I think the left lane is for passing.  If a car is 
behind you in the left lane, you should get over and let them pass!  The left 
lane is for temporary use when you are passing.


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG

2008-01-31 Thread Allan Streib
Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[...]

Nice review, thanks.  From the comments section:

   In Germany, your lowest octane rating is 95. Our highest is 92,
 the lowest being 87. So the extra cost you're paying for fuel is
 because you're getting better fuel.

Like everything else, europeans meaure octane differently than we do
in the USA, using the Research Octane Number which is a a higher
number by 4 or 5 points than the numbers we are accustomed to in the
states.

The real reason for higher fuel costs in europe is mostly taxes.

I hope that wasn't too political a cooment.

Allan
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1966 230


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2008-01-31 Thread Bill
You guys are way young.  Mine was a Commodore 64 bought with a student loan 
near the end of my doctoral work.  That was the big one for home users at the 
time - complete with a cassette player for storage.  The word processor would 
handle as much as 20 pages of text at a time.   My buddy had a PET with 4 kb of 
memory, and with that much power [!] and a 4 pen plotter [leased] he started a 
business.  
BillR


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

 My first computer, a PC with a 40MB HD  purchased in 1990 was $10K,

Mine was an 1802 single board computer with 256 bytes of RAM.
It was $99, as I recall.  Gobs of fun at the time.  I still have
it, it worked the last time I fired it up.  Its special talent
was its video output port.  (Block graphics, not text.)  I
think I might have 4k of RAM in it now, I'm forgetting details.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes question

2008-01-31 Thread John Freer
Are you using the upgraded ones that have a chain in the rubber?

On 1/30/08, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If you've had them all break then something in the exhaust system is
 misaligned somewhere.

 Thanks,
 Tom Hargrave
 www.kegkits.com
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 I've had all of them break. Every one came from either Rusty or the stealer.

 On Jan 30, 2008 9:44 PM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Buy the OE ones at the dealer or through Bimby
  (specify that you want the MB ones.)
 
  I never had a factory exhaust hanger break on me.
 
  Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...

2008-01-31 Thread Bill
Since you brought up the subject of parts, I need the spring base for the
front seat on my '81 300SD [I think those are the same on both sides] if you
have one - along with my under door light 
BillR

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why?

I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 30, 2008 8:36 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyway, while others would remark about those crazy Florida tourists,
 driving with their turn signal on... Uncle Floyd explained how on the
 autobahn one would drive with the left signal constant to signal drivers in
 front the intention of overtaking and passing them.

An excellent custom which ought to be adopted in the US as well, I've
always thought.  It's a clear, unambiguous signal, much better than
flashing your high beams, which (a) is obnoxious (b) temporarily
blinds the person in front of you if they don't have their mirror set
to night (c) distracts drivers on the other side of the road and (d)
ought to be reserved for more serious alerts, such as warning drivers
going the other way of a speed trap.

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.

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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread Bill
Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one of the best things about
living in Jacksonville [other than being able to live with my wife, of
course...].  Coming from South Florida where drivers are aggressive and mean
this place is great.  It is easier to get out of our road onto the main road
if the traffic is backed up, because the next car almost always will let you
out.  You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of traffic to turn left if you
need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all the time].  Yes, it
occasionally makes me several seconds or even a minute later getting
somewhere. I can live with that. That being said, when someone tries to stop
in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb - though legal.  I'll
let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when coming to or leaving a
stop light.
BillR
Jacksonville FL
1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

That really hacks me off either when somebody has the right of way and 
stops to let me know, or stops in front of me to let somebody else out. 
  I am sure they are just trying to be nice but it really causes problems.



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[MBZ] OT: Question about off topic questions....

2008-01-31 Thread RICHARD FIne

I'm sorry that my post was anoying but, I was asking a sincere question, I 
did not know any other means to get it answered... all I was asking for was a 
response other than, you message got through, which obviously I could see from 
my own email.
I have seen many many anoying posts here, mine was a sincere question for 
help...
 
Sorry I asked..
 
RickMessage: 6Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:50:06 -0600From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my 
postsbouncing back?To: Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.comMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Richard, quite frankly these posts are 
starting get annoying
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[MBZ] OT Timothy Robinson and a Betamax machine

2008-01-31 Thread Fmiser
The direct emails seem to be getting lost, so I'll try through
the list.

And, note the clear OT in the subject. *chuckle*

So Tim, any success in finding the old Beta VCR?

--   Philip, in a Missouri blizzard
(translation: A light breeze during a snow flurry)

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread Fmiser
 Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a
 good thing I've often thought how much better off we'd all
 be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 years off - an extended
 vacation perhaps.  No bills would be passed - unless some
 emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-)
 
 I know, it'd never work.
 
 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

How about Every law is null and void 10 years after enacted.
Then the lawmakers would be busy reenacting the important old
laws instead of inventing new ones.

It would never work either...

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...

2008-01-31 Thread Bill
Kaleb - I have a time trying to keep up with two lists and I'm retired [I
was 400+ behind this morning].  How on earth do you keep up with all of them
and a job too?
BillR

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Bill 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:19 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...

Since you brought up the subject of parts, I need the spring base for the
front seat on my '81 300SD [I think those are the same on both sides] if you
have one - along with my under door light 
BillR

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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:19 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why?

I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts 


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Re: [MBZ] Why?

2008-01-31 Thread Gary Thompson
Kinda makes you cry when a nice 1994-95 W124 is cheaper than a rice
burner, don't it. I can buy another E320 with lower miles for what it
would cost me to fix the *%^_)*# A/C evaporator on the one I got.

Was trying to help my daughter get a new car, and she was looking at a
Toyota Corolla that wasn't half the car for a lot more money.

To add to the lunacy, there's a guy here on Craigslist selling a
fairly well taken care of 127K miles 1994 E420 for $4000 while some
goober wants $2500 for a biodiesel ready 1983 300D with 330K miles
and a bad transmission. Doesn't even run! I like diesels too, but a
$500 car is a $500 car. With diesel running 20-25 cents a gallon more
than super unleaded, the E420 is actually just as cheap to operate.


Gary Thompson
1995 E320


On 1/31/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts
 I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car.  That is where I bought a
 $2000 94 E420 a while back.

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[MBZ] I just got this spam...

2008-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
on another email address.  Has some listers listed as recipients, making 
me think someone has a case of spambot on their machine, or someone on 
the list got their address book intercepted, or something.  Also has 
russian name for sender.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread LWB250
While I would say that most of the drivers around here
are pretty decent, it's the ones who are too busy
yakking on the phone, texting, etc., that piss me off.
 These are the ones who usually creep into your lane
then whip back over when you tap your horn.

As a biker and driver, I always have my 3 second (or
more) cushion in front, and rarely if ever exceed the
speed limit.  Yeah, to some people it's a PITA, but if
they ever sat down to do the math the 5 or 10 miles
above the limit they want to do doesn't save them a
significant amount of time, and increases the
likelihood of an accident.

When I'm on my bike I'm especially careful.  For those
of you who ride, check out this guy's Web site for
motorcycle safety information - lots of good/practical
ideas and observations regarding bike safety and
riding in general:

http://www.msgroup.org/default.aspx

Dan (who was riding today in the near 80F degree
temperatures!)


--- Bill  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one
 of the best things about
 living in Jacksonville [other than being able to
 live with my wife, of
 course...].  Coming from South Florida where drivers
 are aggressive and mean
 this place is great.  It is easier to get out of our
 road onto the main road
 if the traffic is backed up, because the next car
 almost always will let you
 out.  You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of
 traffic to turn left if you
 need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all
 the time].  Yes, it
 occasionally makes me several seconds or even a
 minute later getting
 somewhere. I can live with that. That being said,
 when someone tries to stop
 in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb
 - though legal.  I'll
 let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when
 coming to or leaving a
 stop light.
 BillR
 Jacksonville FL
 1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday



  

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread E M
You have to be careful playing those games at speed.  A guy who wants to get
past, always will in the end, and then, if he decides it's pay back time,
things can get ugly.  Before pulling out to pass, I always have a good look,
to see what's coming up.  Regardless of how fast I'm going, before I pull
out, if I see a guy closing at a higher rate than me, I give them right of
way to overtake first.  When I overtake  I tend to do it with some speed
differential.  I'm not one to creep past a car in the right lane.  I read a
great book years ago by Stirling Moss, which he wrote in the 50's I think,
but still a lot of stuff that can be applied today.  eg, when over taking a
car on a two lane country road, back off a little, and have a run at the car
you're overtaking, so as to pass quickly and reduce the time you're exposed
to oncoming traffic.  Simple common sense stuff, but how often have we seen
someone pull out to pass on a two lane, only to see them trying to overtake
too many cars at once, and then see them run out of time?  The slower your
car, the more you have to plan ahead.  Often, speed and power are your best
friend. ;-)

When done right, driving is still a beautiful form of art.

Ed
911SC

On 31/01/2008, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tailgating is the quickest way to get under my skin when driving.  I don't
 care if you do stupid things when driving, but tailgating starts to endanger
 my car and my passengers.  That is crossing the line

 Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and
 very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane.  I use
 aggressive tactics when the person comes within 1 car-length.  This includes
 abruptly slowing to match the speed of the car in the right lane.  This
 speed will be maintained until the offender backs off at least 2-3 car
 lengths at which point I will speed up and finish passing the car on the
 right.  Flashing your brights at me will lengthen the time taken to move
 ahead and over to the right.

 Another thing I tend to enjoy is closely watching the tailgater for that
 impatient move to pass me on the right.  As soon as they look over their
 shoulder and make that move to the right, my right turn signal comes on and
 I innocently make my move to the right lane.  This always adds to their
 level of anger and increases their blood pressure.

 My previous '83 SD would spit a bit of wet substance out the rear under
 full throttle and that was a WONDERFUL anti-tailgating feature.  More than
 once a person had backed off my bumper while running their wipers to remove
 this mist

 Luther, wishing for rotten egg or skunk sent to be released from my rear
 bumper


 On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:59:15 -0600, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want
 to
  go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them?
  Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out
  there. It may help me understand.
 
  It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances,
 tailgating
  was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot
 for
  it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it
 isn't
  personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it,
 most of
  them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them.
 
  To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly -
 just in
  a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5
 below
  depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here).
 
  And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs,
 Environmental
  Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a
  pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default.
 
  What say all?
 
  Brian
 


 --
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 '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
 '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
 '82 300CD (166 kmi)
 '82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
 '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine


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Re: [MBZ] You asked for it

2008-01-31 Thread E M
I was going to comment on that the other night, but didn't get around to
it.  You're right, for most trips, if you want to save time, it has to be
over somewhat of a distance, and you really have to put your foot down.  If
you do the math, driving an hour at 70 mph, or upping it to 80 mph doesn't
make much difference.  Having said that, I'm not one who thinks speed is
evil, and I'll do it whenever the conditions allow, just for the pleasure it
brings.

Some like to cruise, some like to fly.  If we all keep our eyes open, off
the phones and keep to the correct lanes, there's room on the roads for
everyone. :-)

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While I would say that most of the drivers around here
 are pretty decent, it's the ones who are too busy
 yakking on the phone, texting, etc., that piss me off.
   These are the ones who usually creep into your lane
 then whip back over when you tap your horn.

 As a biker and driver, I always have my 3 second (or
 more) cushion in front, and rarely if ever exceed the
 speed limit.  Yeah, to some people it's a PITA, but if
 they ever sat down to do the math the 5 or 10 miles
 above the limit they want to do doesn't save them a
 significant amount of time, and increases the
 likelihood of an accident.

 When I'm on my bike I'm especially careful.  For those
 of you who ride, check out this guy's Web site for
 motorcycle safety information - lots of good/practical
 ideas and observations regarding bike safety and
 riding in general:

 http://www.msgroup.org/default.aspx

 Dan (who was riding today in the near 80F degree
 temperatures!)


 --- Bill  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one
  of the best things about
  living in Jacksonville [other than being able to
  live with my wife, of
  course...].  Coming from South Florida where drivers
  are aggressive and mean
  this place is great.  It is easier to get out of our
  road onto the main road
  if the traffic is backed up, because the next car
  almost always will let you
  out.  You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of
  traffic to turn left if you
  need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all
  the time].  Yes, it
  occasionally makes me several seconds or even a
  minute later getting
  somewhere. I can live with that. That being said,
  when someone tries to stop
  in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb
  - though legal.  I'll
  let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when
  coming to or leaving a
  stop light.
  BillR
  Jacksonville FL
  1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday




   
 
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[MBZ] Projeckt-Wagen 4 VICTORY!!!

2008-01-31 Thread Christopher McCann
our beautiful cream-puff '84 300Dt (not running, which we paid $600 for) made 
victory laps around the neighborhood at 1 AM last night. Replaced the IP (got 
one from an SD at local U pick It for $5 (yes FIVE)), then timed it (took a 
while to figure that out...used the drip tube method) - and the rest was just 
great! Additional cost - IP gasket $1.84.

It was a good day.

Chris





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[MBZ] got some spam with listers on it

2008-01-31 Thread Rich Thomas
I tried to forward it to the list but I guess it was intercepted.  
Anyway, below is the address list it was sent to, a lot of listers on 
it.  Did someone's machine get spambotted or did someone just snag some 
message sent to/from the lists?  Interestingly enough, my email address 
on the list and that it came to is not the one I use for the list.

It had a russian character set from sender and was something about 
gambling games or something.  Suggest everyone scan their computers for 
spambots.

--R


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[MBZ] Projeckt- Wagon victory

2008-01-31 Thread wilton strickland
That's great, Chris!  'Hard to beat that price for an IP.  Congratulations!

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] got some spam with listers on it

2008-01-31 Thread John Robbins
Rich Thomas wrote:
 I tried to forward it to the list but I guess it was intercepted.  
 Anyway, below is the address list it was sent to, a lot of listers on 
 it.  Did someone's machine get spambotted or did someone just snag some 
 message sent to/from the lists?  Interestingly enough, my email address 
 on the list and that it came to is not the one I use for the list.

 From looking at the emails, my guess is the emails came from the 
mbz.org archives.

John


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Re: [MBZ] Why?

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I paid 4k for my 94 E420 and it has 114k on it.  Has TONS of power AND 
gets 25 or so mpg.  Problem is, right now it wont idle but I just have 
to get around to fixing that.

Gary Thompson wrote:
 Kinda makes you cry when a nice 1994-95 W124 is cheaper than a rice
 burner, don't it. I can buy another E320 with lower miles for what it
 would cost me to fix the *%^_)*# A/C evaporator on the one I got.
 
 Was trying to help my daughter get a new car, and she was looking at a
 Toyota Corolla that wasn't half the car for a lot more money.
 
 To add to the lunacy, there's a guy here on Craigslist selling a
 fairly well taken care of 127K miles 1994 E420 for $4000 while some
 goober wants $2500 for a biodiesel ready 1983 300D with 330K miles
 and a bad transmission. Doesn't even run! I like diesels too, but a
 $500 car is a $500 car. With diesel running 20-25 cents a gallon more
 than super unleaded, the E420 is actually just as cheap to operate.
 
 
 Gary Thompson
 1995 E320
 
 
 On 1/31/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts
 I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car.  That is where I bought a
 $2000 94 E420 a while back.
 
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] Projekt- Wagon victory

2008-01-31 Thread Christopher McCann
There are 4 SD's in local PNP type junkyards...thinking about collecting the 
IP's for a rainy day...and the tranny'sand...engine rebuild projects

seriously, it's such a shame to see these cars there. One has an engine bay 
covered in oil and the oil cooler hoses had radiator hose over them held on 
with hose clamps - what a shame!

Chris



wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's great, Chris!  'Hard to 
beat that price for an IP.  Congratulations!

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Well I get 2-300 a day from okiebenz and related stuff, I am on just 
about every other mb list (well, there are 2 others).  The main other 
traffic list is the hitler list, but like I said I just skim thru it. 
Even it does not usually get near the traffic we get here.  For example, 
this list has had over 88k messages since it was started.  In the same 
time period the re list has had 63k.  Just fyi

Bill wrote:
 Kaleb - I have a time trying to keep up with two lists and I'm retired [I
 was 400+ behind this morning].  How on earth do you keep up with all of them
 and a job too?
 BillR

-- 
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  94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic,
  91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] I just got this spam...

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I suspect you are right.

Rich Thomas wrote:
 on another email address.  Has some listers listed as recipients, making 
 me think someone has a case of spambot on their machine, or someone on 
 the list got their address book intercepted, or something.  Also has 
 russian name for sender.
 
 --R
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:  RE:
 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:49:46 +0100 (CET)
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Question about off topic questions....

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Perhaps annoying was a little to harsh.  Perhaps I was just on edge from 
working all night then see the same post several times for help.  Just 
do as instructed and maybe some help can be found.

RICHARD FIne wrote:
 I'm sorry that my post was anoying but, I was asking a sincere question, I 
 did not know any other means to get it answered... all I was asking for was 
 a response other than, you message got through, which obviously I could see 
 from my own email.
 I have seen many many anoying posts here, mine was a sincere question for 
 help...
  
 Sorry I asked..
  
 RickMessage: 6Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:50:06 -0600From: Kaleb C. Striplin 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers

2008-01-31 Thread Harry Watkins
My first computer was a Sinclare (sp).  You had to plug it into a tape
player for storage.  I built a Heath Kit all-in-one for my second.  Enjoyed
building it more than using it.

Harry

On Jan 30, 2008 9:17 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  My first computer, a PC with a 40MB HD  purchased in 1990 was $10K,

 Mine was an 1802 single board computer with 256 bytes of RAM.
 It was $99, as I recall.  Gobs of fun at the time.  I still have
 it, it worked the last time I fired it up.  Its special talent
 was its video output port.  (Block graphics, not text.)  I
 think I might have 4k of RAM in it now, I'm forgetting details.

 -- Jim


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[MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread LWB250
For $200, maybe, but looking at telltale signs like
the tree's worth of pine needles in the engine
compartment and plenum, this car has not been well
cared for.  The comment about not having a Mercedes
mechanic in the area is a giveaway as well - who has
been servicing it up to now?

Two words: Parts car.

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Fmiser
It seems than at Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:46:54 -0600, Kaleb wrote:

 YEP!!  You leave enough distance between you and the car in
 front of you and never fails some asshole will come on over
 and you are right on their rear, you have to slow way down to
 give you more room.  Then, the cycle starts all over.
 
 Hendrik  Fay wrote:

  The problem is that if you leave reaction distance, some
  clown will invariably jump lanes into it.
  
  Hendrik

Just remember that next time you think of using the space in
front of a big truck!

The driver has to juggle. 

One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic
with a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing
down just to speed up. 

Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big
truck.

--Philip

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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
I dont think so but who knows

Loren Faeth wrote:
 Is that the same trans as a M103 powered 124?
 
 At 02:16 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Loren Faeth
Is that the same trans as a M103 powered 124?

At 02:16 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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   91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro,
   84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
   76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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[MBZ] cheap wagon

2008-01-31 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-MERCEDES-300TD-WAGON-for-parts-or-restoration_W0QQitemZ220197501879QQihZ012QQcategoryZ10076QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread John Robbins
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Everything is cheap when there are 6 days left



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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread Loren Faeth
Yeah, the cheap 300E last week went for $1500 with a trashed 
engine.  Not cheap to me!

At 02:42 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Everything is cheap when there are 6 days left



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Re: [MBZ] cheap e320

2008-01-31 Thread E M
I missed a local one last week.  '88 300E, 170,000 kms, full dealer service
and records, one owner.  sold for $1450 and went fast.  wonder why?  ll

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, the cheap 300E last week went for $1500 with a trashed
 engine.  Not cheap to me!

 At 02:42 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote:
 Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
  
 
 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 
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Re: [MBZ] Middle-age is truly depressing, study finds

2008-01-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
They say that 60 is the new 80 (or 50.  I keep on forgetting!)

On Jan 30, 2008 8:02 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 snip
  Middle age is truly miserable,
 big snip
  Only in their fifties do people emerge from this low period.

 I will be fourty nine next month. Only one more year of this crap. WOOHOO

 Rick Knoble
 '85 300 CD
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin

2008-01-31 Thread andrew strasfogel
I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally withdrawn, but the last
two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even whistling at
times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me).  I wonder if he's on meds
now?



On Jan 30, 2008 9:09 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Dan,
 I never realized how identical female abusers are to male abusers.
  Amazing.
 Thx for sharing that - must have been a painful 7 years followed by an
 ecstatic 7 years. ;-)

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 - Original Message -
 From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:58 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin


 
  On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In this current relationship, my GF has these mood swings and we
  go from a
  having a great experience with each other to what the hell did I
  say or
  do to you?...  defending my words or position or even my person.
  Having
  my face scratched, body punched, slapped.  I have had my clothes
  ripped
  off of my person.  She has gotten so low that she has asked me to
  kill
  her.  Then the next another day, she is on cloud #9.  For example,
  everything is fine- let's go see about this or that and life is
  fun.  I
  think she gets off on these highs.  She will leave my house to run
  errands
  as happy as a lark...then she'll show up back at my house all
  depressed
  and life is all wrong: everything is shit, men are shit, life
  sucks and
  I'm such a bastard.
 
  Michael:
 
  My condolences to you. Very painful experience, as I know personally.
  I was married to such a woman for 20 abusive years. I thought it
  would get better; I thought it was all my fault; etc. It got worse.
  And worse. Eventually, after a bunch of therapy and other
  interventions, I realized it wasn't me, it was her. She was begged by
  various therapists to get help; she didn't. As near as I can tell,
  she's borderline. I got divorced 7 years ago, and the past 7 years
  have been the happiest of my life. She has continued to deteriorate.
 
  Given my experience, I'd run, not walk,  away.
 
  Dan
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Allan Streib
Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Just remember that next time you think of using the space in front
 of a big truck!

 The driver has to juggle. 

 One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic with
 a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing down just to
 speed up.

 Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big truck.

Three -- if he hits you, you lose.

-- 
1983 300D
1966 230

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Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin

2008-01-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
Is he withdrawn or paranoid?  Security clearance?

Maybe he is just happy someone dropped out of the Presidential race.

On Jan 31, 2008 4:28 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally withdrawn, but the
 last
 two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even whistling at
 times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me).  I wonder if he's on
 meds
 now?





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[MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Gary Hurst
i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite
the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of
food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round
think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce
and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to many
americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called sicilian pizza
is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn
good!

one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,
that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i recognize
that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york
style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything
other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from
the north end of the long island sound:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg

it is fantastic, no?

so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen
stuff in the supermarket.

how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
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Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
Well Gary,

It's hard to top your post. I am a sometimes clam digger adn the clam pizza
looks disgusting.  How about breakfast pizzas. 

Dwight 

 

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Our Clams are Fresh  Our Cars are Vintage

Dwight E. Giles, Jr.

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i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite

the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of

food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round

think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce

and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to many

americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called sicilian pizza

is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn

good!

 

one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,

that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i recognize

that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york

style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything

other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from

the north end of the long island sound:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg

 

it is fantastic, no?

 

so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most

americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen

stuff in the supermarket.

 

how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?

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Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well the basis is that if there was a problem at okiebenz.com then a lot 
of people would be having problems, as Richard seems to be the only one 
I would suggest that the problem may be with Richards hardware/software 
or his ISP. I don't expect Kaleb to be able to fix Richards computer or ISP.
Perhaps Richard could try another browser or using an online email 
account such as hotmail or yahoo.

Hendrik

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying.  I have no 
 clue what your problem is but I suspect it involves your ISP.  Problems 
 with list issues should NOT be posted to the list, but rather sent to 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to me offlist.  You are more than welcome to 
 forward one of these bounces to me and I will see if I can be of help. 
 Most likely I will not be able to though.

 KAleb

 RICHARD FIne wrote:
   
 I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this 
 is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that?
  
 The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't 
 post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions 
 are bounced back to me... this is intentional?
 I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have 
 a problem now?
  
  
 Rick

 

   

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes question

2008-01-31 Thread LWB250
There are only certain ones that have the chain, and
they are considerably more expensive than the plain
rubber ones.  I think they were used primarily on the
107 chassis, for some reason.  I just know my dealer
parts guy knew the distinction and would steer me to
the regular ones if I needed one.

As for the constant breakage, I agree with Tom.  There
is something amiss in the system if they're all
breaking on a regular basis.  Otherwise, you're buying
cheap knock-off ones that are made more of carbon
black than rubber.

Ask me about Karmann Ghia chassis rubber and seals
some time and I can tell you an amazing story...

Dan


--- John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you using the upgraded ones that have a chain in
 the rubber?
 
 On 1/30/08, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  If you've had them all break then something in the
 exhaust system is
  misaligned somewhere.



  

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Re: [MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik Fay
I think the original rant was about the exchange rate of Euro vs dollar.
I know back in 97 we went to the UK and then the exchange rate was 33 
pence to the Oz. Problem is that people in the UK get paid in pounds 
pretty much the same as what we get paid in Oz $'s.
Say $30,000 is the average wage, that means that when we get to the UK 
we got 10,000 pounds compared to the average wage over there of 
30,000pounds. I think fuel is about 1.5 pounds per litre, which is 
$4.50/liter to us but to a pom it is only 1.50. That's where we get screwed
However yes fuel is taxed a bit more in Euro land.

Hendrik
who is as confused as you

Allan Streib wrote:
 Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 [...]

 Nice review, thanks.  From the comments section:

   
  In Germany, your lowest octane rating is 95. Our highest is 92,
 the lowest being 87. So the extra cost you're paying for fuel is
 because you're getting better fuel.
 

 Like everything else, europeans meaure octane differently than we do
 in the USA, using the Research Octane Number which is a a higher
 number by 4 or 5 points than the numbers we are accustomed to in the
 states.

 The real reason for higher fuel costs in europe is mostly taxes.

 I hope that wasn't too political a cooment.

 Allan
 --
 1983 300D
 1966 230

   

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Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)

2008-01-31 Thread E M
Anyone try buying the dough and doing a BBQ version, right on the grill?
Pretty good too.  Friend of mine owns a pizza shop, so he makes it just the
way I like, thin crust, and light on the toppings.  I like it just like our
cars; made with top quality ingredients, and nothing too fancy. :-)

Ed
300E

On 31/01/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture.  despite
 the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value.  in terms of
 food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct.  most queens pizza is a simply round
 think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little
 sauce
 and quite a bit of good mozzarella.  this is the paradigm for pizza to
 many
 americans.   for those who prefer more bread, a so called sicilian pizza
 is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust.  both are darn
 good!

 one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition,
 that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob.  i am not though.  i
 recognize
 that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york
 style.  there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything
 other than topped bread.  for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from
 the north end of the long island sound:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg

 it is fantastic, no?

 so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most
 americans eat for pizza?  well, um, dominoes and pizza hut.  the frozen
 stuff in the supermarket.

 how can a nation this moronic rule the world?  the end must be near, no?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik Fay
A lot of people have no idea of the requirements of a truck and think it 
is just like a car. Happened to me a couple of times, leave enough room 
so I can safely and efficiently bring the truck to a stop and some turd 
in a little buzz box jumps into that space, all of a sudden a relaxed 
stopping maneuverer turns into a frenzied maximum braking effort.
The stupid part is that idiots would not even know that they done 
anything wrong but think that I was a cowboy truck driver hell bent on 
trying to scare the brown stuff out of them, when I just managed to 
bring the truck to a stop a couple of feet off their rear end. Luckily 
most of the driving I did was out in the bush away from the yuppies and 
their mobile phones.
Of course if you ever rear ended one of these clowns guess who is going 
to be in the poo for not leaving enough distance.

Hendrik
who don't mind driving trucks when it all goes well but it never did

Fmiser wrote:
 Just remember that next time you think of using the space in
 front of a big truck!

 The driver has to juggle. 

 One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic
 with a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing
 down just to speed up. 

 Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big
 truck.

 --Philip



   

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Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?

2008-01-31 Thread Wonko the Sane
Some (many?) of us are having success using GMail for the list mail. If you
want an invite for an account, email me offlist and I will send you one.

On Jan 31, 2008 12:59 AM, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this
 is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that?

 The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't
 post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions
 are bounced back to me... this is intentional?
 I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I
 have a problem now?


 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Projeckt-Wagen 4 VICTORY!!!

2008-01-31 Thread Kevin Kraly
It sounds like you got a nice car for $606.84 and a little work.  You are 
the big winner!

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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