Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
OY... one time I considered why not install a little LED text unit in the rear window to tell those behind just what I thought... I rarely have tailgaters as I do keep in the right lanes of the interstates and no one seems interested in moving along at posted speed as I. I do remember in the early 1980s when seems the old Audi 5000 and VW Rabbit could belch more soot. I could put out quite a smoke screen if I geared just right (which also involved having to switch the a/c compressor off on grades). I guess more than tailgating I dislike being followed to closely at night with the blue headlights glaring in the rearview mirror. It makes the guage illumination more difficult... as I'm more often watching that I AM making the speed rather than exceeding the limit. It's havoc on bifocals with +10 lense. Can we say, Mr. Magoo? From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:23:56 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Tailgating is the quickest way to get under my skin when driving. I don't care if you do stupid things when driving, but tailgating starts to endanger my car and my passengers. That is crossing the line Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane. I use aggressive tactics when the person comes within 1 car-length. This includes abruptly slowing to match the speed of the car in the right lane. This speed will be maintained until the offender backs off at least 2-3 car lengths at which point I will speed up and finish passing the car on the right. Flashing your brights at me will lengthen the time taken to move ahead and over to the right. Another thing I tend to enjoy is closely watching the tailgater for that impatient move to pass me on the right. As soon as they look over their shoulder and make that move to the right, my right turn signal comes on and I innocently make my move to the right lane. This always adds to their level of anger and increases their blood pressure. My previous '83 SD would spit a bit of wet substance out the rear under full throttle and that was a WONDERFUL anti-tailgating feature. More than once a person had backed off my bumper while running their wipers to remove this mist Luther, wishing for rotten egg or skunk sent to be released from my rear bumper On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:59:15 -0600, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
This was an old trick that I learned in 1978... driving a FWD land yacht that everone mused why does he have snow tires on the front? There was always some person who broke traction on ice uphill and caused a string of cars to do the same. I decided there would be less damage to land softly in a snowbank than to have another vehicle sled into the side of me. OH... the untraveled... I also learned the benefits of hanging wheels in curves or to add traction driving just on the shoulders where the tires could grip. First rule of driving in snow? Stop at the store and buy a carton of eggs. Place them under the brake and accelerator pedals. On a night like tonight I sometimes open a window so I can hear some poor fool thinking if they floor the accelerator they might melt enough ice to move another inch. From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:29:33 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it In snow I'll elect to take the less travelled goat paths to avoid impatient drivers or those not equipped for the conditions. I find that conditions are usually _better_ on an untraveled, unplowed road, at least until the belly of the car starts dragging. Not much of a problem with slipperiness or lack of control. (Until it starts to get packed down into ice.) Better scenery, better control, lack of idiots. What's not to like? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] all inclusive
Yeah and that is what was said last time, right before it started to get nasty. Hendrik Wonko the Sane wrote: We aren't. Instead, we shall discuss facts. No politics, just facts. On Jan 30, 2008 10:40 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought we were not going to talk politics on here. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
AH... admitting to a liability! Only time I put up a beware of dog sign was at a house where I didn't have a dog. To connect the tailgating OT rant with the one about mental illness, why not just do a bumper sticker about Psychotics Annon or I'm schitzophrenic and so am I ? My Rice Crispies will tell me who you are. From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:31:30 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Yeah, I know. Same thing with posting a beware of dog sign. Could be argued that you knew a danger existed. Brian On Jan 30, 2008 11:26 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to put a sticker on the back that says in very small writing I kill tailgaters for fun and pleasure My my, such violence! If you actually _did_ manage to have some such fun and pleasure, the presence of said sticker would not look well for you in one of our many fine courts that are here to serve us. (On toast.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
My dad has a 3/8 pneumatic impact ratchet that's done lots of work in those places where a conventional inpact (butterfly?) won't fit. It's a name brand tool although I can't remember the brand, and he got it used from a friend about 20 years ago. It is still working well, but that $9.95 HF cheapie would be a good investment for me. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it 2
We get it. You are an Autobahn god. Wherever it is that you need to go that causes you to drive in a perpetual frenzied state, please go there. Brian On Jan 30, 2008 8:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just ignore the first one, sent in error. Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Your right? Hardly. When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a traffic hazard they are. And in Washington State, tailgating is illegal and the WSP thinks it's a sign of road rage (term du jour lately) and you will be cited. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. snip But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive. Which seems to indicate that you are a rolling road block. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. You are confronting people? How? That's how people get shot. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). Which includes the in-town portions of the Interstate, I assume, where moving traffic along is the whole idea. And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environm ental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. Your job, when you are out there with the rest of us, is to move it. When the light goes green, be ready to go, accellerating to the speed limit when possible. That technique, in today's packed streets, allows the rest of us behind you to make it through before the red appears. And then, there we sit, engines idling, waiting and fuming. THAT is the environmental impact of pokey drivers. Just today I made a trip from North Seattle to Kent on I-5 and the free flowing traffic speed was about 70mph (limit 60) and I (and many others) had to maneuver around a few cars running below 60mph. Oblivious. RLE ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ** Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp0030002489 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
when seems the old Audi 5000 and VW Rabbit could belch more soot. There don't seem to be very many Audi 5000 Diesels rolling around anymore. I know of one that has been coming up on CL for $1300 or so. It has ugly paint and some sort of fuel delivery problem (associated to bioD most likely). They definitely have a different 5cyl sound from that of the 300D/SD. Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it 2.65
I don't do it so much these days but back in my motorcycling days I used to make sure all the idiots actually stopped (or are about to stop) for their red light before I set off. You'd be amazed how many people run red lights, sometimes not even on purpose. This is one of the things they teach you in defensive driving course, assume everyone else on the road is a complete idiot. Then there are the f wits in squashed bugs who think because they have a fast car they can turn off before others set off, the one I saw doing that got away with it but I was praying a tunnel vision ricer was going to collect him and his expensive car. I would have loved to give details to the cops about how Mr fancy car failed to give way but it was not to be :'( Hendrik no accidents for quite some time and all points on the license Zoltan Finks wrote: We get it. You are an Autobahn god. Wherever it is that you need to go that causes you to drive in a perpetual frenzied state, please go there. Brian SNIPPED default. Your job, when you are out there with the rest of us, is to move it. When the light goes green, be ready to go, accellerating to the speed limit when possible. That technique, in today's packed streets, allows the rest of us behind you to make it through before the red appears. And then, there we sit, engines idling, waiting and fuming. THAT is the environmental impact of pokey drivers. Just today I made a trip from North Seattle to Kent on I-5 and the free flowing traffic speed was about 70mph (limit 60) and I (and many others) had to maneuver around a few cars running below 60mph. Oblivious. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Timothy makes some great points - especially about treating older people as we'd like our parents to be treated. I never tailgate, but when I come upon someine in the passing lane I often flash my lights - not that they would know what they means. Then I wait for them to move over. Not that I have someplace to be I just happen to enjoy driving fast. But I also try to avoid driving at times then I am likely to be caught in heavy traffic - 7-9AM and 3-6pm being the times I avoid the most. But to me TG'g is one of the most dangerous acts there are - the other being stopping in the on ramp to the Interstate. As far as young drivers who are often inpatient, yep, that seems to be the case. It must be great to be young and have great reflexes! I had them once. ;-\But I don;t think they get good driving classes - they can pass the test but are not taught to drive, IMHO. Actually I think about my driving habits often. I've wanted a 911 (and a Cobra, GT40, Ferrari, etc) for as long as I was driving - and now that I realize what kind of driver I would have been if I'd been able to drive one of them it probably would have killed me. We owned a '71 VW Beetle for years and I used to drive it like it was a 911 and I flog that little car pretty hard. Take care ya'll -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant I don't like being pushed. I drive conservatively (no political reference intended). I get tired of kids tailgating or zooming around me or passing impatiently on the mountain two lane... still, I can smoke 'em if I want to. Uncles, dad, etc. drive under the speed limit at leisure on the nine mile two lane going toward the main highway. It's not uncommon to see a string of a dozen cars behind them as they drive 35mph in a 45 zone. I try NOT to tailgate as: #1. That could be my parents in front of me and I'd hope others would be considerate. #2. With age, eyesight, diminished reaction time; I don't want to pressure someone to drive faster than their ability. It kinda boils down to manners. I'd no sooner tailgate than I'd push through a line at the JS Cafeteria during the early bird special. I'm only 48 y/o but I remember when I was always in a hurry, under pressure and maxed out as it seems most people on the highway are today. When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, sunroof open, heat on max, NPR (Car Talk) blaring, I'm amazed the cars passing in a blink like they have someplace busy to be. Sometimes I'm tempted to honk and wave when I see them pulled by a blue light ahead. From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:59:15 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list
Re: [MBZ] OT: all inclusive politics
Allan Streib wrote: president in January 2009. There are benefits to a two party system, ...Utopias don't exist. Would you rather have Hillary or [Romney | McCain | Huckabee]. Because it WILL be one of them in January. I really couldn't care less which of those socialists is POTUS next. And that is why, if the two arms of the current one party system give me choices from that list, I won't be voting for that system. If I wanted to choose from that list I'd vote Billary back in office, because they would enjoy far less Congressional support than most. I've only voted for one republicrat party presidential candidate in my life, and I chose the greatest of all evils. It really didn't matter, my state's vote went to AlGoreJr, but I still hate myself now for having cast a vote for a president who has done more than any single man since FDR to expand our goverment outside of its Constitutional restraints, and for the man who has done more than any man in our nation's history to destroy the Bill of Rights. If National Socialism is what we can expect from the so-called Republican Party, I fail to see how Hillary's brand of Marxism could be any worse. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
Allan wrote:many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Amen to That! There's nothing worse than coming upon a car stopped in the middle of the road letting someone out of a sidestreet - when doing the proper thing and maintaining right of way would have kept all traffic moving safely. Arrr! it'sinfuriating just thinking about the instances where that's happened. Perhaps *most* irritating is when a car stops and lets 20 school buses pull out in front of a few cars. Turns a nice morning into a brutal drive - where leaving early to beat the buses is completely frustrated by a considerate driver. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a traffic hazard they are. Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard. This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
The speed limits on Interstates vary by location - lowest usually being 55 and 75 being the highest. For instance, here, I95 just outside or town, as you get closer it drops to 60 then down to 55. I've heard Montana or Wy has some relaxed enforcement. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Timothy R. wrote: When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, sunroof open, . . . Are you being sarcastic when you say zoom along at 60 mph? On an interstate? That is NOT zooming along. I don't drive slower than 75 on the interstate - the speed limit is 70, isn't it? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
OK - I've learned yet another thing on this list! Four seconds it is. I took a Lab-sponsored defensive driving course -- they said four seconds. Craig -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] all inclusive
Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing I've often thought how much better off we'd all be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 years off - an extended vacation perhaps. No bills would be passed - unless some emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-) I know, it'd never work. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] all inclusive No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing. On Jan 30, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And that would be different how Perhaps impeachable offenses but it won't happen during an election cycle -- it would bring Congress to a grinding halt. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Zoltan Finks wrote: And yes, the amount tailgating gets under my skin is directly proportionate to how much I like the car I'm driving, or whom I have as passengers. The last time I got severely pissed at a tailgater was probably over ten years ago. Oh, crap, there's great aunt Vera's car in front of me doing 35. Oh, well, her house is only a mile away. So I'm tooling along at 35 in fourth, hanging far enough back that I won't have to brake when we get to her house. An Eclipse goes past me, slams on the brakes and sits 10-15' off this 85 year old woman's bumper. Now this particular old woman is one of my mom's favorite aunts. The carfull of morons nearly stops as she makes her turn, then whips out into the left lane, with me on their bumper. 15 seconds later, we're going down this narrow two lane road at about 80, with my car 20-30' behind theirs. It was nerve-wracking to me, and I hope it was for them too. I intended to do the 10' that they had done, but I just couldn't do it, too scary. A couple of miles later we came to a stop sign, they turned right, I turned left. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Hi Richard, Sounds like you were lucky to come out without getting hurt. Hopefully they can keep some of your identifying info from him - he sounds like someone who likes to do stupid things. You might want a restraining order forcing him to keep his distance. Or maybe I;m overreacting - Good luck- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Richard Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Interesting that you ask this question. Just yesterday I was being tailgated by an F150. I was in my 300D right lane of I-40 here in OKC in a left hand curve we call the Tinker diagonal. He was so close all I could see was grill. I was doing 60, speed limit was 50, left lane was doing maybe 5mph faster than me. I let off the gas and slowed to 50. I just new trouble was coming. He whipped into the left lane, got halfway past me, then started changing lanes right into me. While there is a shoulder there it was covered with salt and sand from our last freeze. I just knew if I got on that I would slide right into the concrete barrier, and he would drive off and I would be left with a totaled car that I only carry liability insurance on. I stayed in my lane and got on the breaks (abs seems to work just fine), but he was still going to hit me unless I headed for the barrier. Well I held my lane. His right rear clipped my front left. Two people stopped and left me names and numbers. The highway patrolman called them and the both said pretty much what I had already told the officer, but one of them did say she was in the left lane and the truck could not have been more than 2 feet off my bumper. Now I am going to have to find a new left front finder, turn signal, and headlight. He on the other hand is going to have to replace his totaled truck, and pay about $400 in tickets, and probably higher insurance premiums. He ended up on the shoulder and slide right into that concrete barrier. So no, I do not think it is ever acceptable to tailgate. That being said I have done it, and plan to give myself a timeout if I ever do it again!!! On 1/30/08, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- OK Richard 1987 300D 193k with miles and miles to go!!! Midwest City, Oklahoma ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
My travelled stretch of I-40 is under perpetualy construction. Most of that construction is going on at night... so seems when there's not a bottleneck of traffic it's a work zone with speeds posted 50 mph. A section of my drive crosses the Biltmore Estate (and vineyards). Having killed one deer in the past, I'm always paranoid at night as the deer come from nowhere. From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:11:34 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant The speed limits on Interstates vary by location - lowest usually being 55 and 75 being the highest. For instance, here, I95 just outside or town, as you get closer it drops to 60 then down to 55. I've heard Montana or Wy has some relaxed enforcement. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Timothy R. wrote: When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, sunroof open, . . . Are you being sarcastic when you say zoom along at 60 mph? On an interstate? That is NOT zooming along. I don't drive slower than 75 on the interstate - the speed limit is 70, isn't it? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:20:38 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant We owned a '71 VW Beetle for years and I used to drive it like it was a 911 and I flog that little car pretty hard. When I was young with the reflexes.. I once owned a 1976 VW SuperBettle. Always felt like I had to lead the pack on the highway. I'd open the sunroof, turn the aftermarket 8 track loud (hate to admit, Barry Manilow) and drive like a Golden Eagle pusher with the sound of the engine at the rear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] all inclusive
Don wrote:having vote after vote to bring the \ Ahh... our tax dollars hard at work. How could they have the power to give themselves raises?Seems like there was something in the Constitution about that? Hmm.. there were originally 12 articles in the Bill of rights - maybe that was one of the 2 that were dropped. My memory is failng me. ;-\ Add that power to their tremendous retirement and it's no wonder people go to such extremes to get elected then to stay elected. Thankfully there are a few who are there for the right reason. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] all inclusive Lt Don wrote: No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing. Just make Nancy Pelosi the permanent Speaker of the House. Since the new congress has taken over they have not accomplished ANYTHING other than having vote after vote to bring the troops back from Iraq. How many times do they have to have these symbolic votes when they have not changed the positions of anyone who voted the last time. Regardless of your position on Iraq, does it make sense to keep having the same vote over and over when the result is already decided. Check out how many of Nancy's promises she has kept. I am sure you can google it and check your own sources. I think the first one she broke was the work 5 days a week promise. That one was dismantled two weeks into the session. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
Saw it the other morning. A considerate driver stopped in traffic to motion another driver in. The other driver assumed the considerate driver had check traffic in all six lanes for her so when she shot through the opening crossing other lanes she was T boned. Snarled morning rush hour for us all. There used to be a practice (incorrect) called courtesy signaling where some driver thought it was their duty to use turn signals to alert everyone behind the intention of drivers in front? From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:25:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it Allan wrote:many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Amen to That! There's nothing worse than coming upon a car stopped in the middle of the road letting someone out of a sidestreet - when doing the proper thing and maintaining right of way would have kept all traffic moving safely. Arrr! it'sinfuriating just thinking about the instances where that's happened. Perhaps *most* irritating is when a car stops and lets 20 school buses pull out in front of a few cars. Turns a nice morning into a brutal drive - where leaving early to beat the buses is completely frustrated by a considerate driver. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a traffic hazard they are. Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard. This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
And let him know you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson. --R LarryT wrote: You might want a restraining order forcing him to keep his distance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane. Then move right. If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at the next safe opportunity. Ideally you are aware enough of traffic behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated. The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed. It doesn't matter how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to enforce speed limits. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up
The 2nd drive is actually my old hard drive. When I got a new one I installed the new one as master, old one as slave and copied everything over. At one time it DID show up like it was supposed to. For some reason it dropped off and I have never messed with fixing it until now. Yes, its formatted and has things installed on it. LarryT wrote: Hi Kaleb, When you installed the 2nd HD did you move the jumper so the 2nd was set to Slave and the other HD was set to Master? The HD usually has instructions on top for where to put the jumpers - Has the new HD been formatted? Then again it;s hard to format it without a drive letter. Did the HD come with a CD? Also, if that doesnt work, you may need to change the settings in the BIOS. But let some computer whiz here talk you thru it before you attempt anything - you can mess up things *real* bad by changing the wrong thing. Hopefully the jumper thing will help - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] all inclusive
LarryT wrote: Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing I've often thought how much better off we'd all be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 years off - an extended vacation perhaps. No bills would be passed - unless some emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-) First pass one bill, invalidating all federal legislation (and illegal executive orders) enacted in the past 100 years. Then take a vacation for five or ten years to see what might really need changing. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up
OK, I converted to dynamic, then it let me assign a drive letter. Now it shows up and I can get to my old files, actually, just what was on that drive, which will probably be wiped out. Have no idea what converting it to dynamic does or means, but it seems to work. dave walton wrote: Double check that you are logged in as Administrator. Also - where you right-click is important. I'm talking about the lower right window under Disk management under Computer Management. Clicking in the column that shows Disk 0, Disk 1 (leftmost column in the lower right window) will allow you to change disk properties like basic/dynamic and MBR/GPT. Clicking to the right of that column will allow you to change volume info. That's where you define volumes, format, and assign drive letters. If there is nothing you need to save on the drive, might as well try changing it to dynamic. If there is stuff you need to save, you might be screwed. Maybe attach it to whatever it was working on last and pull a backup? -Dave Walton -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why?
I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car. That is where I bought a $2000 94 E420 a while back. LWB250 wrote: That reminds me that I need to go empty some mailboxes. I never look at the crap from their list unless someone pipes up and points out something interesting. I should stick my head out from one of the accounts I have and say Hi! to Stu and crispy pancake Hank just to stir things up. Dan --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got you beat poosy, I was banned, then I was back, then Hank pissed me off so I unsubscribed myself, but Stu claims I was banned when in reality I left on my own. Well, not sure that really beats you but interesting none the less. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Here is the thing about this -- this guy is a dumbass who endangered himself and others on the highway, at high speeds, despite rules and regulations and common sense that say don't do stupid sh*t like that. So, you gotta ask yourself, will a restraining order have any effect on a stupid dumbass like that, who has already demonstrated absolutely no concern for himself or others, or their property or safety? If the answer to that is the apparent one, then one needs to be prepared to deal with it, whether by driving a safe car in a defensive manner, or by having the means to deal with other stupid dumbass behavior like a direct assault on you (without a car around you for protection) in your driveway or home. No one else is going to be around protecting you minute to minute, and, unfortunately, even stupid dumbasses like that know that and take advantage of it, as he did with his truck on the highway. I would not wish anyone to be the victim of people like that, but the unfortunate reality is that they are all around, and have absolutely no constraints on their behavior as most of us do. We like to think they do, but they don't. In general the risk is pretty low that you will have to deal with a random act, but when some dumbass like that has been goaded on by the consequences of his stupid actions, to do even more stupid actions, not random, then the risk goes way up. That is reality. My parents got victimized significantly by a group of caregivers they had in their home, lost a lot of money. I got to sit in court many mornings dealing with this. I got a real education about the world most of us never have to deal with, and I was shocked at how pervasive lowlife behavior is. Talking with the prosecutors shocked me even more, because they have so much stuff to deal with, only the really violent cases are given much effort, and the others are sent on their way with probation deals or fines or whatever (no room to lock them up), and then they are back again next month for not complying, or some other stupid (worse) thing they have done. Scary stuff but that is reality. --R LarryT wrote: Rich wrote you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson Couldn't have said it better myself -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant And let him know you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson. --R LarryT wrote: You might want a restraining order forcing him to keep his distance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up
Check to make sure the power settings are not turning it off. --R Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: The 2nd drive is actually my old hard drive. When I got a new one I installed the new one as master, old one as slave and copied everything over. At one time it DID show up like it was supposed to. For some reason it dropped off and I have never messed with fixing it until now. Yes, its formatted and has things installed on it. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Donald Snook wrote: If you are talking about in town, then my answer is no. I don't tailgate. HOWEVER, if you are talking about the highway, my answer changes. If I am on the highway and someone is in the LEFT lane, then I will get behind you. I won't tailgate initially. I will probably flash my lights and if the car persists in driving in the left lane, then I will creep up until they move. Some might not like it, but, I think the left lane is for passing. If a car is behind you in the left lane, you should get over and let them pass! The left lane is for temporary use when you are passing. That about sums up my driving habits on the matter. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Rich wrote you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson Couldn't have said it better myself -- Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant And let him know you have two large friends named Smith and Wesson. --R LarryT wrote: You might want a restraining order forcing him to keep his distance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts
Actually, June is when the OkieQ is. As for what Lt Admiral Wacko does, I have no clue Loren Faeth wrote: Both Kaleb and Ed's comments are right on. However, I was on the RE list for a short time long ago, and I quit because of the high number of postings and the fact that none had any relevance to either my 110 200Ds or my 123 240D at the time. The RE list was/is for people with new cars (my definition is anything less than 15-20 years old is a new car.) and the discussion is mainly about whether to hand buff with merino wool buffer or Suffolk wool buffer. etc etc. As Kaleb said, this is a community, but the lack of MB content has me reading few posts and wondering if I should unsubscribe for a while. OTOH, this list has saved me lots of time and money, and I have developed many friendships here. I have now actually met 3 members and a lurker face to face. Now if LT would schedule the next IOWEQ in June, I could meet a few more. Viva la Community! Loren Faeth lotsa old MBs, a Dorg van and an R75/5 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Mac OSX question
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sufficient keyboard shortcuts should exist for the common button actions, let the rare ones require pointer motion. I'd be fine with that but take it a bit further, I think there should *always* be a keyboard shortcut for any button, common or no. In this case there did not seem to be one so I enabled the button tabbing behavior option. I want tabs to work from text entry to text entry, which is what the Mac originally did and is I'm sure the motivation behind the behavior you don't like. Well they seem to have made everyone happy, by making either behavior possible by means of a Preference setting. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up
Thats where I am clicking and the only option it gives me there is to delete partion. The change drive letter option is not available. I am doing the dynamic convert thing now and see what happens. dave walton wrote: Double check that you are logged in as Administrator. Also - where you right-click is important. I'm talking about the lower right window under Disk management under Computer Management. Clicking in the column that shows Disk 0, Disk 1 (leftmost column in the lower right window) will allow you to change disk properties like basic/dynamic and MBR/GPT. Clicking to the right of that column will allow you to change volume info. That's where you define volumes, format, and assign drive letters. If there is nothing you need to save on the drive, might as well try changing it to dynamic. If there is stuff you need to save, you might be screwed. Maybe attach it to whatever it was working on last and pull a backup? -Dave Walton -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Why do almost all of my posts to mercedes@okiebenz.com keep getting returned as failure to del
Your post came thru just fine. Any sort of problem like that would need to be addressed with your ISP RICHARD FIne wrote: I am basically unable to post on this site... Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, 2 hard drives, only one shows up
Sweet! That is a new set of symptoms for me. Learn something new every day - at least on a good day. -Dave Walton On Jan 31, 2008 10:17 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, I converted to dynamic, then it let me assign a drive letter. Now it shows up and I can get to my old files, actually, just what was on that drive, which will probably be wiped out. Have no idea what converting it to dynamic does or means, but it seems to work. dave walton wrote: Double check that you are logged in as Administrator. Also - where you right-click is important. I'm talking about the lower right window under Disk management under Computer Management. Clicking in the column that shows Disk 0, Disk 1 (leftmost column in the lower right window) will allow you to change disk properties like basic/dynamic and MBR/GPT. Clicking to the right of that column will allow you to change volume info. That's where you define volumes, format, and assign drive letters. If there is nothing you need to save on the drive, might as well try changing it to dynamic. If there is stuff you need to save, you might be screwed. Maybe attach it to whatever it was working on last and pull a backup? -Dave Walton -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
Your dad was a dentist? I come from a long line of dentists. OK Don wrote: I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks
I work in/commute to a little seasonal tourist town in the mountains. In the summer the population increases ten fold with out of state summer residents, mostly retired. Most transient visitors soon discover how strict the local law enforcement is on posted speed limits. Can we say, speed trap? For the most part I make note of the state of origin on the license plate in front of me and the fact that the car probably has a handicapped flag on the rear view mirror. That's usually a clue to anticipate anything and be prepared. Always avoid the other car's blint spot as the far right lane is the favored left turning lane across five lanes. Also, if a car is equipped with turn signals they're either not used or their purpose is only to remind the driver of which direction they ultimately intend to drive. From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:42:49 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks A few taps on the brake will usually get those people off your rear Rich Thomas wrote: So today I was driving through our little community in the truck. Drove past this gorgeous house that was the first $1M house in the area, It is a beautiful house, not that I would have paid that for it, but whatever. Have seen signs of habitation but never the inhabitants. As I was driving by, the garage door opens and a big Lexus SUV starts backing out. An absolutely totally stunningly gorgeous young woman driving it, I toot the horn as she is just backing right out into the street. She looks pissed but stops and then backs out behind me. Anyway, she follows me for the next several minutes as we drive through the community, stop lights, stop signs, school zone, people walking, etc. I usually drive slowly just because it is my community and I don't like being a bad citizen in that regard. The whole time she is right on my rear bumper, like it is going to get her wherever she is going any faster. I was having some fantasies that she was really trying to keep up with me so she could follow me home, but then I woke upand figured daddy was better off than me, so I stood no chance. In this case, I did not mind as my mirrors were functioning well and it gave me a chance for contemplation --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?
Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying. I have no clue what your problem is but I suspect it involves your ISP. Problems with list issues should NOT be posted to the list, but rather sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to me offlist. You are more than welcome to forward one of these bounces to me and I will see if I can be of help. Most likely I will not be able to though. KAleb RICHARD FIne wrote: I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that? The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions are bounced back to me... this is intentional? I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have a problem now? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
YEP!! You leave enough distance between you and the car in front of you and never fails some asshole will come on over and you are right on their rear, you have to slow way down to give you more room. Then, the cycle starts all over. Hendrik Fay wrote: You need to put a sticker on the back that says in very small writing I kill tailgaters for fun and pleasure The problem is that if you leave reaction distance, some clown will invariably jump lanes into it. Hendrik who has learned to switch off to other road users behavior, well actually no, that's not quite true Zoltan Finks wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks
A few taps on the brake will usually get those people off your rear Rich Thomas wrote: So today I was driving through our little community in the truck. Drove past this gorgeous house that was the first $1M house in the area, It is a beautiful house, not that I would have paid that for it, but whatever. Have seen signs of habitation but never the inhabitants. As I was driving by, the garage door opens and a big Lexus SUV starts backing out. An absolutely totally stunningly gorgeous young woman driving it, I toot the horn as she is just backing right out into the street. She looks pissed but stops and then backs out behind me. Anyway, she follows me for the next several minutes as we drive through the community, stop lights, stop signs, school zone, people walking, etc. I usually drive slowly just because it is my community and I don't like being a bad citizen in that regard. The whole time she is right on my rear bumper, like it is going to get her wherever she is going any faster. I was having some fantasies that she was really trying to keep up with me so she could follow me home, but then I woke upand figured daddy was better off than me, so I stood no chance. In this case, I did not mind as my mirrors were functioning well and it gave me a chance for contemplation --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
No, they do not have the right to tailgate you, they can go around when it is safe to do so. Zoltan Finks wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list
OK, starting to get too much politics going on the list. Thats one of the only things we do not allow, so lets cut it out and get back to either MB or other OT things. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
That really hacks me off either when somebody has the right of way and stops to let me know, or stops in front of me to let somebody else out. I am sure they are just trying to be nice but it really causes problems. Allan Streib wrote: On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a traffic hazard they are. Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard. This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Topics
Wonko/LT Don, you may not have retired as an admiral for the same reasons I didn't retire as a general. I didn't put up with any BS, and I didn't stand at the bar every afternoon (actually, not any) with The General. Wilton, lowly LTCOL (Ret) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
There's something painful about reading 3/8 air ratchet and dentist in the same post... From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:38:12 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four Your dad was a dentist? I come from a long line of dentists. OK Don wrote: I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
My old compressor had a date stamp on the tank of 1947. It always made me nervous too. I tried to find out how to test it or what it would cost to have it tested without much success. I remember way back when, the govt sent around a fellow who tested just by banging with a hammer and listening to the sound. I am told that the proper way is with water. One needs to be able to pressurize the tank to something way beyond normal with water. If it has any faults, it will spring a leak but not explode apparently. My ultimate solution was to buy a new tank and transplant the compressor head and motor etc to the new tank. No problems since and I am careful to bleed off accumulated water regularly. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:23 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG
. 4. RE: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG About time USA finds out about european diesel cars. We are about 15 years behind ( light years). How about Jetta wagon TDI @ 50 mpg combined driving, 2 people. I hope politicians and special interest groups will allow progress to follow its natural course( Kalifornia) one day.. 3. 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG Having long ago fallen into love with 5 speed Audit A4 TDI, I can't wait to see a quality diesel with manual transmission available stateside. There is nothing like driving a car with heaps of torque. Please make the wagon available. Although I wonder if Honda's decision to bring diesel Accord to US shores has influenced MB or VW? 2. RE: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG maybe we would pay fuel less than we do now! So you really think fuel is expensive? Here at germany we had prices of over 7.5 USD per gallon. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. We'd love to pay your rates for fuel. 1. RE: 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG I am living in Montgomery, Alabama, but originall coming fom Europe, actually Bosnia where my parents drive Skoda Octvia(which is VW Jetta) 1.9 tdi and Lancia Lybra 2.4jtd five cilynder diesel. I went this winter ovethere and was skiing and with Skoda got regullary 50mpg, although I was driving to ski resorts that are on some 4,000 feet altitude. My next car here will be diesel, becase of tarque and savings. If the United States switch to diesel like Europe did, maybe we would pay fuel less than we do now! -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 441088 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080131/5ac6f112/attachment.bin ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
I used to drive an '89 Honda Accord and for some reason the windshield washers on that particular car worked extremely well for the Accord but also for anyone following it. I used to get a lot of amusement, when someone was following me a little too close for comfort ,when I washed my windshield and then watch them backoff and see their windshield wipers activate. Ah, sweet revenge. It was even better if their car was clean. Bob Granger ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Big Bertha rides!
Once more into the breach? The power just went out again. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN, politics on the list
Please. On Jan 31, 2008 9:36 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, starting to get too much politics going on the list. Thats one of the only things we do not allow, so lets cut it out and get back to either MB or other OT things. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
I agree, I just maintain my speed and move back over to the right after passing when I can. Allan Streib wrote: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane. Then move right. If you are impeding traffic in the left lane you need to immediately signal your intention to move right and do so at the next safe opportunity. Ideally you are aware enough of traffic behind you that you can do this in advance of being tailgated. The games you are describing (slowing down, etc.) are childish and someday might cause a wreck and get someone killed. It doesn't matter how fast you are already going, even; You are not out there to enforce speed limits. Allan -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Was off topic posts, now ADD
Larry - ADD/ADHD is very real though, yes, it is quite often misdiagnosed. Also, it definitely is not just a kid thing. Your best bet is a psychiatrist who specializes in ADD/ADHD. There is a very good series of books by MDs Edward Hallowell John Ratey on the subject that will likely answer most anyone's questions. I would start with their book Driven to Distraction. If you think that you, or someone that you care about, may have this malady, then read the book or have them read it. If you do truly have it, as I do, then reading the book can make a very positive change in how you view yourself and those that must interface with you. It may also help save your marriage as those of us that are affected by this can sometimes unintentionally be slowly driving our spouses a little nuts. Spouses should definitely read the book. That is a MUST so they have some understanding of what to expect and how to deal with it. Another good place to get answers to questions can be your local chapter of CHADD. As far as how long it takes for the diagnosis. I went to a lunch hour talk that some CHADD folks put on at work and after listening to what some of those folks were saying I went away saying to myself hey, that's me, they're describing me! I was smart enough to follow up and take a battery of tests that took a few hours and then a couple of sessions with a shrink to discuss the results and things that I could do to help me better cope with the challenges one must face daily. My advice to anyone that thinks that they, or someone they care about, may have this is to at least read the book and educate yourself enough to decide if there is really something there. The worst thing think you can do is to sweep it under the rug, if it is truly there, because just knowing why you are the way you are can change your life for the better. Doing it early on can possibly prevent a lot of damage to the affected person's psyche and yes there invariably will be increasing damage over the span of time. If any one out there wants to talk about this more you are welcome to ask me and I will answer to the extent of my limited knowledge. I am not a shrink, nor do I play one on TV. :^) Possibly this would be better off list unless there is some general list interest. Barry Just curious, who typically diagnoses a child as ADD/ADHD/PMS/SEL/Whatever? ;-) How long does it take and what is the process? Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
What Donald said [I usually take the advice of lawyers]. BillR -Original Message- From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 1/30/08 10:03 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Brian wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. If you are talking about in town, then my answer is no. I don't tailgate. HOWEVER, if you are talking about the highway, my answer changes. If I am on the highway and someone is in the LEFT lane, then I will get behind you. I won't tailgate initially. I will probably flash my lights and if the car persists in driving in the left lane, then I will creep up until they move. Some might not like it, but, I think the left lane is for passing. If a car is behind you in the left lane, you should get over and let them pass! The left lane is for temporary use when you are passing. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG
Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Nice review, thanks. From the comments section: In Germany, your lowest octane rating is 95. Our highest is 92, the lowest being 87. So the extra cost you're paying for fuel is because you're getting better fuel. Like everything else, europeans meaure octane differently than we do in the USA, using the Research Octane Number which is a a higher number by 4 or 5 points than the numbers we are accustomed to in the states. The real reason for higher fuel costs in europe is mostly taxes. I hope that wasn't too political a cooment. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers
You guys are way young. Mine was a Commodore 64 bought with a student loan near the end of my doctoral work. That was the big one for home users at the time - complete with a cassette player for storage. The word processor would handle as much as 20 pages of text at a time. My buddy had a PET with 4 kb of memory, and with that much power [!] and a 4 pen plotter [leased] he started a business. BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 1/30/08 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers My first computer, a PC with a 40MB HD purchased in 1990 was $10K, Mine was an 1802 single board computer with 256 bytes of RAM. It was $99, as I recall. Gobs of fun at the time. I still have it, it worked the last time I fired it up. Its special talent was its video output port. (Block graphics, not text.) I think I might have 4k of RAM in it now, I'm forgetting details. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes question
Are you using the upgraded ones that have a chain in the rubber? On 1/30/08, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you've had them all break then something in the exhaust system is misaligned somewhere. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of OK Don Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes question I've had all of them break. Every one came from either Rusty or the stealer. On Jan 30, 2008 9:44 PM, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Buy the OE ones at the dealer or through Bimby (specify that you want the MB ones.) I never had a factory exhaust hanger break on me. Dan -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics. -Benjamin Disraeli and/or Mark Twain '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC, '97 Ply Grand Voyager ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.16/1250 - Release Date: 1/29/2008 10:20 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...
Since you brought up the subject of parts, I need the spring base for the front seat on my '81 300SD [I think those are the same on both sides] if you have one - along with my under door light BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why? I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
On Jan 30, 2008 8:36 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, while others would remark about those crazy Florida tourists, driving with their turn signal on... Uncle Floyd explained how on the autobahn one would drive with the left signal constant to signal drivers in front the intention of overtaking and passing them. An excellent custom which ought to be adopted in the US as well, I've always thought. It's a clear, unambiguous signal, much better than flashing your high beams, which (a) is obnoxious (b) temporarily blinds the person in front of you if they don't have their mirror set to night (c) distracts drivers on the other side of the road and (d) ought to be reserved for more serious alerts, such as warning drivers going the other way of a speed trap. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one of the best things about living in Jacksonville [other than being able to live with my wife, of course...]. Coming from South Florida where drivers are aggressive and mean this place is great. It is easier to get out of our road onto the main road if the traffic is backed up, because the next car almost always will let you out. You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of traffic to turn left if you need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all the time]. Yes, it occasionally makes me several seconds or even a minute later getting somewhere. I can live with that. That being said, when someone tries to stop in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb - though legal. I'll let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when coming to or leaving a stop light. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:39 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it That really hacks me off either when somebody has the right of way and stops to let me know, or stops in front of me to let somebody else out. I am sure they are just trying to be nice but it really causes problems. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Question about off topic questions....
I'm sorry that my post was anoying but, I was asking a sincere question, I did not know any other means to get it answered... all I was asking for was a response other than, you message got through, which obviously I could see from my own email. I have seen many many anoying posts here, mine was a sincere question for help... Sorry I asked.. RickMessage: 6Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:50:06 -0600From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my postsbouncing back?To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.comMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Timothy Robinson and a Betamax machine
The direct emails seem to be getting lost, so I'll try through the list. And, note the clear OT in the subject. *chuckle* So Tim, any success in finding the old Beta VCR? -- Philip, in a Missouri blizzard (translation: A light breeze during a snow flurry) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] all inclusive
Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing I've often thought how much better off we'd all be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 years off - an extended vacation perhaps. No bills would be passed - unless some emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-) I know, it'd never work. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) How about Every law is null and void 10 years after enacted. Then the lawmakers would be busy reenacting the important old laws instead of inventing new ones. It would never work either... -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...
Kaleb - I have a time trying to keep up with two lists and I'm retired [I was 400+ behind this morning]. How on earth do you keep up with all of them and a job too? BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:19 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ... Since you brought up the subject of parts, I need the spring base for the front seat on my '81 300SD [I think those are the same on both sides] if you have one - along with my under door light BillR -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:19 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Why? I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why?
Kinda makes you cry when a nice 1994-95 W124 is cheaper than a rice burner, don't it. I can buy another E320 with lower miles for what it would cost me to fix the *%^_)*# A/C evaporator on the one I got. Was trying to help my daughter get a new car, and she was looking at a Toyota Corolla that wasn't half the car for a lot more money. To add to the lunacy, there's a guy here on Craigslist selling a fairly well taken care of 127K miles 1994 E420 for $4000 while some goober wants $2500 for a biodiesel ready 1983 300D with 330K miles and a bad transmission. Doesn't even run! I like diesels too, but a $500 car is a $500 car. With diesel running 20-25 cents a gallon more than super unleaded, the E420 is actually just as cheap to operate. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 1/31/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car. That is where I bought a $2000 94 E420 a while back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I just got this spam...
on another email address. Has some listers listed as recipients, making me think someone has a case of spambot on their machine, or someone on the list got their address book intercepted, or something. Also has russian name for sender. --R Original Message Subject:RE: Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:49:46 +0100 (CET) From: Людмила-гелена [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=-[CHARSET]- META content=MSHTML -[OUTLOOK_VER]- name=GENERATOR htmlheadtitle/title /head body bgcolor=#ff leftmargin=5 topmargin=5 rightmargin=5 bottommargin=5 font size=2 color=#00 face=Arial divfont size=4br/font/div divfont size=5 color=#993300Online /fontfont size=5 color=#993300bCasino/b/fontfont size=5 color=#993300 Games - Play free /fontfont size=5 color=#993300bCasino/b/fontfont size=5 color=#993300 or Real money games in our download client. /font/div divfont size=5 color=#993300We have over 100 free and real money games for you to play on your /fontfont size=5 color=#993300b.../b/font/div divfont size=5 color=#80bbr/b/font/div divfont size=5 color=#80bbr/b/font/div diva href=http://starluxgambling.com/;font size=5 color=#ffbuhttp://starluxgambling.com//u/b/font/a/div /font /body/html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
While I would say that most of the drivers around here are pretty decent, it's the ones who are too busy yakking on the phone, texting, etc., that piss me off. These are the ones who usually creep into your lane then whip back over when you tap your horn. As a biker and driver, I always have my 3 second (or more) cushion in front, and rarely if ever exceed the speed limit. Yeah, to some people it's a PITA, but if they ever sat down to do the math the 5 or 10 miles above the limit they want to do doesn't save them a significant amount of time, and increases the likelihood of an accident. When I'm on my bike I'm especially careful. For those of you who ride, check out this guy's Web site for motorcycle safety information - lots of good/practical ideas and observations regarding bike safety and riding in general: http://www.msgroup.org/default.aspx Dan (who was riding today in the near 80F degree temperatures!) --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one of the best things about living in Jacksonville [other than being able to live with my wife, of course...]. Coming from South Florida where drivers are aggressive and mean this place is great. It is easier to get out of our road onto the main road if the traffic is backed up, because the next car almost always will let you out. You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of traffic to turn left if you need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all the time]. Yes, it occasionally makes me several seconds or even a minute later getting somewhere. I can live with that. That being said, when someone tries to stop in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb - though legal. I'll let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when coming to or leaving a stop light. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
You have to be careful playing those games at speed. A guy who wants to get past, always will in the end, and then, if he decides it's pay back time, things can get ugly. Before pulling out to pass, I always have a good look, to see what's coming up. Regardless of how fast I'm going, before I pull out, if I see a guy closing at a higher rate than me, I give them right of way to overtake first. When I overtake I tend to do it with some speed differential. I'm not one to creep past a car in the right lane. I read a great book years ago by Stirling Moss, which he wrote in the 50's I think, but still a lot of stuff that can be applied today. eg, when over taking a car on a two lane country road, back off a little, and have a run at the car you're overtaking, so as to pass quickly and reduce the time you're exposed to oncoming traffic. Simple common sense stuff, but how often have we seen someone pull out to pass on a two lane, only to see them trying to overtake too many cars at once, and then see them run out of time? The slower your car, the more you have to plan ahead. Often, speed and power are your best friend. ;-) When done right, driving is still a beautiful form of art. Ed 911SC On 31/01/2008, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tailgating is the quickest way to get under my skin when driving. I don't care if you do stupid things when driving, but tailgating starts to endanger my car and my passengers. That is crossing the line Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane. I use aggressive tactics when the person comes within 1 car-length. This includes abruptly slowing to match the speed of the car in the right lane. This speed will be maintained until the offender backs off at least 2-3 car lengths at which point I will speed up and finish passing the car on the right. Flashing your brights at me will lengthen the time taken to move ahead and over to the right. Another thing I tend to enjoy is closely watching the tailgater for that impatient move to pass me on the right. As soon as they look over their shoulder and make that move to the right, my right turn signal comes on and I innocently make my move to the right lane. This always adds to their level of anger and increases their blood pressure. My previous '83 SD would spit a bit of wet substance out the rear under full throttle and that was a WONDERFUL anti-tailgating feature. More than once a person had backed off my bumper while running their wipers to remove this mist Luther, wishing for rotten egg or skunk sent to be released from my rear bumper On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:59:15 -0600, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
I was going to comment on that the other night, but didn't get around to it. You're right, for most trips, if you want to save time, it has to be over somewhat of a distance, and you really have to put your foot down. If you do the math, driving an hour at 70 mph, or upping it to 80 mph doesn't make much difference. Having said that, I'm not one who thinks speed is evil, and I'll do it whenever the conditions allow, just for the pleasure it brings. Some like to cruise, some like to fly. If we all keep our eyes open, off the phones and keep to the correct lanes, there's room on the roads for everyone. :-) Ed 300E On 31/01/2008, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While I would say that most of the drivers around here are pretty decent, it's the ones who are too busy yakking on the phone, texting, etc., that piss me off. These are the ones who usually creep into your lane then whip back over when you tap your horn. As a biker and driver, I always have my 3 second (or more) cushion in front, and rarely if ever exceed the speed limit. Yeah, to some people it's a PITA, but if they ever sat down to do the math the 5 or 10 miles above the limit they want to do doesn't save them a significant amount of time, and increases the likelihood of an accident. When I'm on my bike I'm especially careful. For those of you who ride, check out this guy's Web site for motorcycle safety information - lots of good/practical ideas and observations regarding bike safety and riding in general: http://www.msgroup.org/default.aspx Dan (who was riding today in the near 80F degree temperatures!) --- Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being mixed in with mostly friendly drivers is one of the best things about living in Jacksonville [other than being able to live with my wife, of course...]. Coming from South Florida where drivers are aggressive and mean this place is great. It is easier to get out of our road onto the main road if the traffic is backed up, because the next car almost always will let you out. You can even get across 2 or 3 lanes of traffic to turn left if you need to [I have never tried that, but I see it all the time]. Yes, it occasionally makes me several seconds or even a minute later getting somewhere. I can live with that. That being said, when someone tries to stop in the middle of a busy road that is just plain dumb - though legal. I'll let anyone out if it is safe to do so - usually when coming to or leaving a stop light. BillR Jacksonville FL 1981 300SD 298892 miles yesterday Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Projeckt-Wagen 4 VICTORY!!!
our beautiful cream-puff '84 300Dt (not running, which we paid $600 for) made victory laps around the neighborhood at 1 AM last night. Replaced the IP (got one from an SD at local U pick It for $5 (yes FIVE)), then timed it (took a while to figure that out...used the drip tube method) - and the rest was just great! Additional cost - IP gasket $1.84. It was a good day. Chris CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] got some spam with listers on it
I tried to forward it to the list but I guess it was intercepted. Anyway, below is the address list it was sent to, a lot of listers on it. Did someone's machine get spambotted or did someone just snag some message sent to/from the lists? Interestingly enough, my email address on the list and that it came to is not the one I use for the list. It had a russian character set from sender and was something about gambling games or something. Suggest everyone scan their computers for spambots. --R To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Projeckt- Wagon victory
That's great, Chris! 'Hard to beat that price for an IP. Congratulations! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] got some spam with listers on it
Rich Thomas wrote: I tried to forward it to the list but I guess it was intercepted. Anyway, below is the address list it was sent to, a lot of listers on it. Did someone's machine get spambotted or did someone just snag some message sent to/from the lists? Interestingly enough, my email address on the list and that it came to is not the one I use for the list. From looking at the emails, my guess is the emails came from the mbz.org archives. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why?
I paid 4k for my 94 E420 and it has 114k on it. Has TONS of power AND gets 25 or so mpg. Problem is, right now it wont idle but I just have to get around to fixing that. Gary Thompson wrote: Kinda makes you cry when a nice 1994-95 W124 is cheaper than a rice burner, don't it. I can buy another E320 with lower miles for what it would cost me to fix the *%^_)*# A/C evaporator on the one I got. Was trying to help my daughter get a new car, and she was looking at a Toyota Corolla that wasn't half the car for a lot more money. To add to the lunacy, there's a guy here on Craigslist selling a fairly well taken care of 127K miles 1994 E420 for $4000 while some goober wants $2500 for a biodiesel ready 1983 300D with 330K miles and a bad transmission. Doesn't even run! I like diesels too, but a $500 car is a $500 car. With diesel running 20-25 cents a gallon more than super unleaded, the E420 is actually just as cheap to operate. Gary Thompson 1995 E320 On 1/31/08, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I try to skim thru everyday just to see if somebody is looking for parts I can sell them, or has a great deal on a car. That is where I bought a $2000 94 E420 a while back. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Projekt- Wagon victory
There are 4 SD's in local PNP type junkyards...thinking about collecting the IP's for a rainy day...and the tranny'sand...engine rebuild projects seriously, it's such a shame to see these cars there. One has an engine bay covered in oil and the oil cooler hoses had radiator hose over them held on with hose clamps - what a shame! Chris wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's great, Chris! 'Hard to beat that price for an IP. Congratulations! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com CSSML NDSMD + VRSNSMV SMQLIVB -1985 300SD, 369K km, Wulf -1992 350 Ram Wagon, 1 Ton, 58K mi, Der Abschleppwagen '75 240D, '80 300SD, '85 300Dt '84 300Dt -Anke Sammy von der Burg Austerlitz (GSDs) Nanook (Siberian Husky) - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Why? - speaking of parts ...
Well I get 2-300 a day from okiebenz and related stuff, I am on just about every other mb list (well, there are 2 others). The main other traffic list is the hitler list, but like I said I just skim thru it. Even it does not usually get near the traffic we get here. For example, this list has had over 88k messages since it was started. In the same time period the re list has had 63k. Just fyi Bill wrote: Kaleb - I have a time trying to keep up with two lists and I'm retired [I was 400+ behind this morning]. How on earth do you keep up with all of them and a job too? BillR -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I just got this spam...
I suspect you are right. Rich Thomas wrote: on another email address. Has some listers listed as recipients, making me think someone has a case of spambot on their machine, or someone on the list got their address book intercepted, or something. Also has russian name for sender. --R Original Message Subject: RE: Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:49:46 +0100 (CET) From: Людмила-гелена [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTMLHEAD META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=-[CHARSET]- META content=MSHTML -[OUTLOOK_VER]- name=GENERATOR htmlheadtitle/title /head body bgcolor=#ff leftmargin=5 topmargin=5 rightmargin=5 bottommargin=5 font size=2 color=#00 face=Arial divfont size=4br/font/div divfont size=5 color=#993300Online /fontfont size=5 color=#993300bCasino/b/fontfont size=5 color=#993300 Games - Play free /fontfont size=5 color=#993300bCasino/b/fontfont size=5 color=#993300 or Real money games in our download client. /font/div divfont size=5 color=#993300We have over 100 free and real money games for you to play on your /fontfont size=5 color=#993300b.../b/font/div divfont size=5 color=#80bbr/b/font/div divfont size=5 color=#80bbr/b/font/div diva href=http://starluxgambling.com/;font size=5 color=#ffbuhttp://starluxgambling.com//u/b/font/a/div /font /body/html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Question about off topic questions....
Perhaps annoying was a little to harsh. Perhaps I was just on edge from working all night then see the same post several times for help. Just do as instructed and maybe some help can be found. RICHARD FIne wrote: I'm sorry that my post was anoying but, I was asking a sincere question, I did not know any other means to get it answered... all I was asking for was a response other than, you message got through, which obviously I could see from my own email. I have seen many many anoying posts here, mine was a sincere question for help... Sorry I asked.. RickMessage: 6Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:50:06 -0600From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my postsbouncing back?To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.comMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Computers
My first computer was a Sinclare (sp). You had to plug it into a tape player for storage. I built a Heath Kit all-in-one for my second. Enjoyed building it more than using it. Harry On Jan 30, 2008 9:17 AM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My first computer, a PC with a 40MB HD purchased in 1990 was $10K, Mine was an 1802 single board computer with 256 bytes of RAM. It was $99, as I recall. Gobs of fun at the time. I still have it, it worked the last time I fired it up. Its special talent was its video output port. (Block graphics, not text.) I think I might have 4k of RAM in it now, I'm forgetting details. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheap e320
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap e320
For $200, maybe, but looking at telltale signs like the tree's worth of pine needles in the engine compartment and plenum, this car has not been well cared for. The comment about not having a Mercedes mechanic in the area is a giveaway as well - who has been servicing it up to now? Two words: Parts car. Dan --- Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
It seems than at Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:46:54 -0600, Kaleb wrote: YEP!! You leave enough distance between you and the car in front of you and never fails some asshole will come on over and you are right on their rear, you have to slow way down to give you more room. Then, the cycle starts all over. Hendrik Fay wrote: The problem is that if you leave reaction distance, some clown will invariably jump lanes into it. Hendrik Just remember that next time you think of using the space in front of a big truck! The driver has to juggle. One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic with a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing down just to speed up. Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big truck. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap e320
I dont think so but who knows Loren Faeth wrote: Is that the same trans as a M103 powered 124? At 02:16 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap e320
Is that the same trans as a M103 powered 124? At 02:16 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] cheap wagon
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1981-MERCEDES-300TD-WAGON-for-parts-or-restoration_W0QQitemZ220197501879QQihZ012QQcategoryZ10076QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap e320
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Everything is cheap when there are 6 days left ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap e320
Yeah, the cheap 300E last week went for $1500 with a trashed engine. Not cheap to me! At 02:42 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Everything is cheap when there are 6 days left ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] cheap e320
I missed a local one last week. '88 300E, 170,000 kms, full dealer service and records, one owner. sold for $1450 and went fast. wonder why? ll Ed 300E On 31/01/2008, Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, the cheap 300E last week went for $1500 with a trashed engine. Not cheap to me! At 02:42 PM 1/31/2008, you wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-E-Class-E320-1994-E320-Great-shape-Trans-gone-selling-for-parts_W0QQitemZ140203402840QQihZ004QQcategoryZ6335QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Everything is cheap when there are 6 days left ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Middle-age is truly depressing, study finds
They say that 60 is the new 80 (or 50. I keep on forgetting!) On Jan 30, 2008 8:02 PM, Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Middle age is truly miserable, big snip Only in their fifties do people emerge from this low period. I will be fourty nine next month. Only one more year of this crap. WOOHOO Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin
I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally withdrawn, but the last two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even whistling at times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me). I wonder if he's on meds now? On Jan 30, 2008 9:09 PM, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Dan, I never realized how identical female abusers are to male abusers. Amazing. Thx for sharing that - must have been a painful 7 years followed by an ecstatic 7 years. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 4:58 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In this current relationship, my GF has these mood swings and we go from a having a great experience with each other to what the hell did I say or do to you?... defending my words or position or even my person. Having my face scratched, body punched, slapped. I have had my clothes ripped off of my person. She has gotten so low that she has asked me to kill her. Then the next another day, she is on cloud #9. For example, everything is fine- let's go see about this or that and life is fun. I think she gets off on these highs. She will leave my house to run errands as happy as a lark...then she'll show up back at my house all depressed and life is all wrong: everything is shit, men are shit, life sucks and I'm such a bastard. Michael: My condolences to you. Very painful experience, as I know personally. I was married to such a woman for 20 abusive years. I thought it would get better; I thought it was all my fault; etc. It got worse. And worse. Eventually, after a bunch of therapy and other interventions, I realized it wasn't me, it was her. She was begged by various therapists to get help; she didn't. As near as I can tell, she's borderline. I got divorced 7 years ago, and the past 7 years have been the happiest of my life. She has continued to deteriorate. Given my experience, I'd run, not walk, away. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just remember that next time you think of using the space in front of a big truck! The driver has to juggle. One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic with a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing down just to speed up. Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big truck. Three -- if he hits you, you lose. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Bipolar GF? Was Admin
Is he withdrawn or paranoid? Security clearance? Maybe he is just happy someone dropped out of the Presidential race. On Jan 31, 2008 4:28 PM, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just noticed a guy at work who is normally totally withdrawn, but the last two days has actually been charmingly communicative and even whistling at times (had to ask him to stop as it irritates me). I wonder if he's on meds now? -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture. despite the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value. in terms of food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct. most queens pizza is a simply round think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce and quite a bit of good mozzarella. this is the paradigm for pizza to many americans. for those who prefer more bread, a so called sicilian pizza is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust. both are darn good! one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition, that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob. i am not though. i recognize that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york style. there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything other than topped bread. for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from the north end of the long island sound: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg it is fantastic, no? so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most americans eat for pizza? well, um, dominoes and pizza hut. the frozen stuff in the supermarket. how can a nation this moronic rule the world? the end must be near, no? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
Well Gary, It's hard to top your post. I am a sometimes clam digger adn the clam pizza looks disgusting. How about breakfast pizzas. Dwight Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Our Clams are Fresh Our Cars are Vintage Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Hurst Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:20 PM To: Banned List; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes) i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture. despite the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value. in terms of food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct. most queens pizza is a simply round think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce and quite a bit of good mozzarella. this is the paradigm for pizza to many americans. for those who prefer more bread, a so called sicilian pizza is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust. both are darn good! one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition, that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob. i am not though. i recognize that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york style. there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything other than topped bread. for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from the north end of the long island sound: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg it is fantastic, no? so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most americans eat for pizza? well, um, dominoes and pizza hut. the frozen stuff in the supermarket. how can a nation this moronic rule the world? the end must be near, no? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?
Well the basis is that if there was a problem at okiebenz.com then a lot of people would be having problems, as Richard seems to be the only one I would suggest that the problem may be with Richards hardware/software or his ISP. I don't expect Kaleb to be able to fix Richards computer or ISP. Perhaps Richard could try another browser or using an online email account such as hotmail or yahoo. Hendrik Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Richard, quite frankly these posts are starting get annoying. I have no clue what your problem is but I suspect it involves your ISP. Problems with list issues should NOT be posted to the list, but rather sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or to me offlist. You are more than welcome to forward one of these bounces to me and I will see if I can be of help. Most likely I will not be able to though. KAleb RICHARD FIne wrote: I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that? The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions are bounced back to me... this is intentional? I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have a problem now? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes question
There are only certain ones that have the chain, and they are considerably more expensive than the plain rubber ones. I think they were used primarily on the 107 chassis, for some reason. I just know my dealer parts guy knew the distinction and would steer me to the regular ones if I needed one. As for the constant breakage, I agree with Tom. There is something amiss in the system if they're all breaking on a regular basis. Otherwise, you're buying cheap knock-off ones that are made more of carbon black than rubber. Ask me about Karmann Ghia chassis rubber and seals some time and I can tell you an amazing story... Dan --- John Freer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you using the upgraded ones that have a chain in the rubber? On 1/30/08, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you've had them all break then something in the exhaust system is misaligned somewhere. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2008 Mercedes-Benz C220 CDI Test Drive: Torque-Rich Euro Diesel Scores 41 MPG
I think the original rant was about the exchange rate of Euro vs dollar. I know back in 97 we went to the UK and then the exchange rate was 33 pence to the Oz. Problem is that people in the UK get paid in pounds pretty much the same as what we get paid in Oz $'s. Say $30,000 is the average wage, that means that when we get to the UK we got 10,000 pounds compared to the average wage over there of 30,000pounds. I think fuel is about 1.5 pounds per litre, which is $4.50/liter to us but to a pom it is only 1.50. That's where we get screwed However yes fuel is taxed a bit more in Euro land. Hendrik who is as confused as you Allan Streib wrote: Walt Lasher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] Nice review, thanks. From the comments section: In Germany, your lowest octane rating is 95. Our highest is 92, the lowest being 87. So the extra cost you're paying for fuel is because you're getting better fuel. Like everything else, europeans meaure octane differently than we do in the USA, using the Research Octane Number which is a a higher number by 4 or 5 points than the numbers we are accustomed to in the states. The real reason for higher fuel costs in europe is mostly taxes. I hope that wasn't too political a cooment. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
Anyone try buying the dough and doing a BBQ version, right on the grill? Pretty good too. Friend of mine owns a pizza shop, so he makes it just the way I like, thin crust, and light on the toppings. I like it just like our cars; made with top quality ingredients, and nothing too fancy. :-) Ed 300E On 31/01/2008, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture. despite the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value. in terms of food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct. most queens pizza is a simply round think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce and quite a bit of good mozzarella. this is the paradigm for pizza to many americans. for those who prefer more bread, a so called sicilian pizza is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust. both are darn good! one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition, that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob. i am not though. i recognize that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york style. there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything other than topped bread. for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from the north end of the long island sound: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg it is fantastic, no? so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most americans eat for pizza? well, um, dominoes and pizza hut. the frozen stuff in the supermarket. how can a nation this moronic rule the world? the end must be near, no? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
A lot of people have no idea of the requirements of a truck and think it is just like a car. Happened to me a couple of times, leave enough room so I can safely and efficiently bring the truck to a stop and some turd in a little buzz box jumps into that space, all of a sudden a relaxed stopping maneuverer turns into a frenzied maximum braking effort. The stupid part is that idiots would not even know that they done anything wrong but think that I was a cowboy truck driver hell bent on trying to scare the brown stuff out of them, when I just managed to bring the truck to a stop a couple of feet off their rear end. Luckily most of the driving I did was out in the bush away from the yuppies and their mobile phones. Of course if you ever rear ended one of these clowns guess who is going to be in the poo for not leaving enough distance. Hendrik who don't mind driving trucks when it all goes well but it never did Fmiser wrote: Just remember that next time you think of using the space in front of a big truck! The driver has to juggle. One - he has a _much_ slower acceleration than a 240 automatic with a stretched timing chain so he'll want to avoid slowing down just to speed up. Two - it takes a lot of space to stop even a half-loaded big truck. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Again, I ask, why are the majority of my posts bouncing back?
Some (many?) of us are having success using GMail for the list mail. If you want an invite for an account, email me offlist and I will send you one. On Jan 31, 2008 12:59 AM, RICHARD FIne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never, and have no problem in all the other forums, sites ect. this is the only place my posts bounce back... what do I need to do to fix that? The only posts that seem to go through are when I ask about why I can't post... every other post I send about Mercedes questions or other questions are bounced back to me... this is intentional? I have been a member of this Forum for over 7 years, I don't know why I have a problem now? Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Projeckt-Wagen 4 VICTORY!!!
It sounds like you got a nice car for $606.84 and a little work. You are the big winner! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 266Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com