Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
I was told by the Mercedes Tech. Varta is German. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 10:21 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > > > So where can I find a Varta replacement battery for my 2014 GLK 250 > > identical to the OE battery in my car that was installed in November > 2013? > > Batteries are batteries. They're all made by Exide or Johnson > controls. If it's the right size and right rating I wouldn't worry. If > you insist, I'm sure the dealer will be happy to sell you a battery. > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT old kohler engine running rich?
Air cleaner is a good suggestion. Has not been cleaned in a while. I'll check that. Thanks, Allan G Mann via Mercedes writes: > Rule of thumb has always been 2 turns and 1/2 . start, warm it up... > then adjust in 1/8th turn, let it settle,,, then another 1/8th until > it gets to lean to run well... then out until it goes rich... count the > turns as you go either direction and use judgement as to where it runs > best... at idle... > > Then run it at high throttle and see how it does... some further > adjustment may be indicated to get full power and smooth running at higher > power settings > > Is the air cleaner fresh and clean? If it's clogged with gradu that will > act like the choke is full on and make it run rich... starving for air > with the same fuel = Rich mixture... > > Pull the plug and clean it... if the plug is fouled same result... runs > like a rich mix. > > Good luck... hope it helps. > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 7:24 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I have an old Cub Cadet lawn tractor with a 1-cyl Kohler engine. Exhaust >> smells rich lately. Are there any "rule of thumb" for setting the >> mixture? >> >> Allan >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Allan Streib Indiana University Luddy School of Informatics, Computing, and Engineering Digital Science Center | Intelligent Systems Engineering | FutureSystems ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT old kohler engine running rich?
Rule of thumb has always been 2 turns and 1/2 . start, warm it up... then adjust in 1/8th turn, let it settle,,, then another 1/8th until it gets to lean to run well... then out until it goes rich... count the turns as you go either direction and use judgement as to where it runs best... at idle... Then run it at high throttle and see how it does... some further adjustment may be indicated to get full power and smooth running at higher power settings Is the air cleaner fresh and clean? If it's clogged with gradu that will act like the choke is full on and make it run rich... starving for air with the same fuel = Rich mixture... Pull the plug and clean it... if the plug is fouled same result... runs like a rich mix. Good luck... hope it helps. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 7:24 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have an old Cub Cadet lawn tractor with a 1-cyl Kohler engine. Exhaust > smells rich lately. Are there any "rule of thumb" for setting the > mixture? > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I guess this tire is done
How long is the screw? Ouch... no doubt, drove it with the tire flat or nearly flat for a while? Look at the inside of the tire when it's dismounted, just to see what shows for damage on the inside. Bulge in sidewall is auto reject, so it's toast. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:18 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Wife had a flat on this otherwise good Yokohama tire. Discovered this > bulge right next to the screw. > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I guess this tire is done
You can patch that and put some JBWeld over that bulge --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:18 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Wife had a flat on this otherwise good Yokohama tire. Discovered this bulge > right next to the screw. > <6790480__047ABFBA-3AA8-4B53-9C3F-972D292F9E03.JPG> > > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT old kohler engine running rich?
I have an old Cub Cadet lawn tractor with a 1-cyl Kohler engine. Exhaust smells rich lately. Are there any "rule of thumb" for setting the mixture? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > So where can I find a Varta replacement battery for my 2014 GLK 250 > identical to the OE battery in my car that was installed in November 2013? Batteries are batteries. They're all made by Exide or Johnson controls. If it's the right size and right rating I wouldn't worry. If you insist, I'm sure the dealer will be happy to sell you a battery. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
On 2020-09-19 15:52, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote: What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs? The Delco in my Saturn was from Fall 2014. 2016 I left the trunk open for over an hour and the car refused to try to start, thinking the battery was too low. Hooking up a charger reset the low voltage trigger and the car started, but that was an indication of very low battery capacity, I should have traded it in under warranty. Winter 2019, the car cranked slow, so I bought a couple of tiny Stanley lithium pack. When temps hit -13F, the car barely started. When it was -18 a couple days later, no start. The Stanley pack, twice the size of a cigarette pack, made the difference between starting and not starting. I believe I used the warm pack out of the house and not the cold pack out of the car, I figure it's abusive to use lithium batteries below 14F. I've also used it to start lawn mowers as an alternative to buying another $90 motorcycle battery that the mower would just kill in a year or two. This is about the smallest and weakest thing I found, seems like they were about $35 at Walmart a couple years ago, I got them on clearance for under $15. They will start a car with help from the car's battery, but they won't do it alone. https://www.amazon.com/STANLEY-SS4LS-PowerToGo-Lithium-Portable/dp/B07MGC1SLX/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone want a 2006 E320 CDI? Bob?
Looks swell. Don’t really need anything that nice at this point in time. Right now, I just need Kaleb to let me know if he has a gasser to swap for my diesel W124... but he’s a busy boy. Bob R Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > https://showlow.craigslist.org/cto/d/lakeside-2006-mercedes-e320-cdi/7198753380.html > > Bob, it's in Lakeside, AZ > > How does it appeal to you? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Anyone want a 2006 E320 CDI? Bob?
https://showlow.craigslist.org/cto/d/lakeside-2006-mercedes-e320-cdi/7198753380.html Bob, it's in Lakeside, AZ How does it appeal to you? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Point taken, So where can I find a Varta replacement battery for my 2014 GLK 250 identical to the OE battery in my car that was installed in November 2013? On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 5:57 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yes USAA towing is worthless because they dont pay as much as other jobs so > the drivers promise to come but never show up. You need to ne on a first > name basis with a local tow guy to drive old stuff. > > The lithium batteries are handy for break downs, but just as handy for > helping other people with their problems when you are out and about, or > when someone's truck wont crank and is blocking your driveway. So they are > really twice as useful. > > > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 2:24 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I've gotten assistance with the jump packs twice. Once from a cop > > and once at a parts store. In both cases they started the car. > > > > I'd personally hesitate to buy one as you need them so rarely. My luck > > would be that when I needed it, it wouldn't be charged. > > > > Roadside assistance insurance coverage is OK but when I needed it > > recently they had "very long hold times due to COVID-19." I waited about > > 15 minutes with no answer then hung up and called a towing service > > myself, and it took them over an hour to show up. I did get reimbursed > > by State Farm though. > > > > Allan > > > > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > > > > > Me too. Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now > it's > > > sudden death in my experience. Jumper cables are OK but you need an > > second, > > > healthy car. What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs? > > > I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack. Looked nice > > and > > > I watched a glowing YouTube review. But it failed totally when my > > > 13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit. That jump pack tried to crank > > (twice) > > > with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was > over > > > the temp limit. That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed > > 50% > > > when it quit. A big disappointment. > > > I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed > > good > > > results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review. In > > that > > > review the guy actually tested several brands. I haven't needed it yet > > (and > > > hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience. > > > My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the > > car > > > is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge. > > > Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, > > IMO. > > > Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow > > truck > > > or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook). > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes > > > > > > In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. > > > > > > They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to > > even > > > turn the engine. > > > > > > If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least > > > carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, > so > > > it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't > have > > > cables handy). > > > > > > Allan > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
Posting has been deleted. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 5:00 PM Clay via Mercedes wrote: > Ticking time bomb > > Build quality is sub par and surpassed by Kia or Hyundai. Airmatic > failures are certain and will set you back $4k+ to remedy. Clusters have > been replaced under recall but will fail once more and cost over $2k to > replace. Failed cluster renders the car undrivable, since you have no idea > what is going on with speed or engine management. Plastic coolant parts > that fail leading to overheating. Nav/edutainment system suffers cascade > failures. Catastrophic converters plug up to the tune of $2k each side. > They have next to no value retention unless there is low miles, complete > records of constant dealer servicing, and it is in showroom condition. > Sealed transmission WILL leak ATF and wick it up into the ECU > > Great car to drive if it is working, but to be avoided. If you do need a > w220 get the 2006 or find a w221. > > clay > > > 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green > 2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis > > retired models- > 1986 SDL - Polei > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap > 1982 SD - Allen > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 19, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Any comments about the S430 ad below? > > > > What chassis would it be (W220?)? > > > > Anything to be wary of or pay attention to? > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Craig > > > > > > > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/santa-fe-you-can-be-part-of-the/7185712263.html > > > > 2003 Mercedes-Benz s430 4MATIC, Spacious and roomy enough for a small > > family to fit in, Attractive, and elegant appearance!!! You can be part > > of the Mercedes-Benz S-Class experience! > > > > Strong running V8 4.3L under the hood., Automatic transmission, AWD!!! > > Smooth and comfortable to drive with great handling, 146,000 highway > > miles, Finished in Nice Silver paint over a black leather interior. Fully > > loaded with Navigation system, Power, heated & Ventilated front Seats > > with memory settings, power windows, power mirrors and locks, Air > > Conditioning (blows REAL cold) Fantastic BOSE premium Sound System, > > Cruise control, Sunroof!, Rear Window Shade, Premium Wheels, good tires, > > Non-smoker car, Extremely clean inside and out clean, as you can see in > > the pics, Definitely this is the perfect car for you! If your looking for > > a great addition to your household or a wonderful vehicle to take the > > place of another! > > > > FIRST PERSON WITH CASH $3900 GETS A BEAUTIFUL MERCEDES!!! ***Please don't > > contact me with a lowball offer***. come take a look, I know you'll be > > impressed! CLEAN TITLE in hand. Serious buyers ONLY, Thank you! > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Yes USAA towing is worthless because they dont pay as much as other jobs so the drivers promise to come but never show up. You need to ne on a first name basis with a local tow guy to drive old stuff. The lithium batteries are handy for break downs, but just as handy for helping other people with their problems when you are out and about, or when someone's truck wont crank and is blocking your driveway. So they are really twice as useful. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 2:24 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I've gotten assistance with the jump packs twice. Once from a cop > and once at a parts store. In both cases they started the car. > > I'd personally hesitate to buy one as you need them so rarely. My luck > would be that when I needed it, it wouldn't be charged. > > Roadside assistance insurance coverage is OK but when I needed it > recently they had "very long hold times due to COVID-19." I waited about > 15 minutes with no answer then hung up and called a towing service > myself, and it took them over an hour to show up. I did get reimbursed > by State Farm though. > > Allan > > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > > > Me too. Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now it's > > sudden death in my experience. Jumper cables are OK but you need an > second, > > healthy car. What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs? > > I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack. Looked nice > and > > I watched a glowing YouTube review. But it failed totally when my > > 13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit. That jump pack tried to crank > (twice) > > with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was over > > the temp limit. That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed > 50% > > when it quit. A big disappointment. > > I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed > good > > results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review. In > that > > review the guy actually tested several brands. I haven't needed it yet > (and > > hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience. > > My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the > car > > is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge. > > Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, > IMO. > > Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow > truck > > or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook). > > Scott > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes > > > > In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. > > > > They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to > even > > turn the engine. > > > > If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least > > carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so > > it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have > > cables handy). > > > > Allan > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash)
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 16:58:26 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > So here is what he says. Must be a busy guy Plus the car is at a beach > house been sitting in the salt air for how many years? Sort of like the fellow west of here who posted on freecycle having three cars (one of which was a W123) which were left on his land and for which he could not get titles. He said he wanted them gone. I sent him an email asking what they were and where they were. He replied he was too busy to take pictures. I replied I did not want pictures, I just wanted to know what they were and where they were. He has not replied in several days. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
I've gotten assistance with the jump packs twice. Once from a cop and once at a parts store. In both cases they started the car. I'd personally hesitate to buy one as you need them so rarely. My luck would be that when I needed it, it wouldn't be charged. Roadside assistance insurance coverage is OK but when I needed it recently they had "very long hold times due to COVID-19." I waited about 15 minutes with no answer then hung up and called a towing service myself, and it took them over an hour to show up. I did get reimbursed by State Farm though. Allan Scott Ritchey via Mercedes writes: > Me too. Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now it's > sudden death in my experience. Jumper cables are OK but you need an second, > healthy car. What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs? > I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack. Looked nice and > I watched a glowing YouTube review. But it failed totally when my > 13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit. That jump pack tried to crank (twice) > with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was over > the temp limit. That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed 50% > when it quit. A big disappointment. > I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed good > results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review. In that > review the guy actually tested several brands. I haven't needed it yet (and > hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience. > My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the car > is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge. > Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, IMO. > Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow truck > or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook). > Scott > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes > > In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. > > They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even > turn the engine. > > If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least > carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so > it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have > cables handy). > > Allan > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
My boss had one of those pack things in his car. Wonderful for getting a jump in the spring or summer with warm temps in a small petrol power car. Not capable of lighting off a diesel or much use in the dead of winter where big amps are needed. #1 boy who lives in ND keeps one in his jeep for when it is too cold to get a start. It seems to warm up the battery just enough to let loose electrons out of his 1200 CCA winter AGM. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 > On Sep 19, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes > wrote: > > Me too. Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now it's > sudden death in my experience. Jumper cables are OK but you need an second, > healthy car. What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs? > I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack. Looked nice and > I watched a glowing YouTube review. But it failed totally when my > 13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit. That jump pack tried to crank (twice) > with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was over > the temp limit. That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed 50% > when it quit. A big disappointment. > I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed good > results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review. In that > review the guy actually tested several brands. I haven't needed it yet (and > hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience. > My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the car > is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge. > Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, IMO. > Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow truck > or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook). > Scott > > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes > > In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. > > They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even > turn the engine. > > If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least > carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so > it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have > cables handy). > > Allan > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
Ticking time bomb Build quality is sub par and surpassed by Kia or Hyundai. Airmatic failures are certain and will set you back $4k+ to remedy. Clusters have been replaced under recall but will fail once more and cost over $2k to replace. Failed cluster renders the car undrivable, since you have no idea what is going on with speed or engine management. Plastic coolant parts that fail leading to overheating. Nav/edutainment system suffers cascade failures. Catastrophic converters plug up to the tune of $2k each side. They have next to no value retention unless there is low miles, complete records of constant dealer servicing, and it is in showroom condition. Sealed transmission WILL leak ATF and wick it up into the ECU Great car to drive if it is working, but to be avoided. If you do need a w220 get the 2006 or find a w221. clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis retired models- 1986 SDL - Polei 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1982 SD - Allen 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Sep 19, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > Any comments about the S430 ad below? > > What chassis would it be (W220?)? > > Anything to be wary of or pay attention to? > > Thanks, > > > Craig > > > https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/santa-fe-you-can-be-part-of-the/7185712263.html > > 2003 Mercedes-Benz s430 4MATIC, Spacious and roomy enough for a small > family to fit in, Attractive, and elegant appearance!!! You can be part > of the Mercedes-Benz S-Class experience! > > Strong running V8 4.3L under the hood., Automatic transmission, AWD!!! > Smooth and comfortable to drive with great handling, 146,000 highway > miles, Finished in Nice Silver paint over a black leather interior. Fully > loaded with Navigation system, Power, heated & Ventilated front Seats > with memory settings, power windows, power mirrors and locks, Air > Conditioning (blows REAL cold) Fantastic BOSE premium Sound System, > Cruise control, Sunroof!, Rear Window Shade, Premium Wheels, good tires, > Non-smoker car, Extremely clean inside and out clean, as you can see in > the pics, Definitely this is the perfect car for you! If your looking for > a great addition to your household or a wonderful vehicle to take the > place of another! > > FIRST PERSON WITH CASH $3900 GETS A BEAUTIFUL MERCEDES!!! ***Please don't > contact me with a lowball offer***. come take a look, I know you'll be > impressed! CLEAN TITLE in hand. Serious buyers ONLY, Thank you! > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash)
So here is what he says. Must be a busy guy Plus the car is at a beach house been sitting in the salt air for how many years? I'm not available where I can make plans 3 hours out and if someone showed up with cash when you're 10 min away I'd sell it and you'd be pissed.just never has worked for me and this car is at our beach house Sorry --R Sent from iPhone > On Sep 19, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > You appealed to his better nature. Let's hope he has one. > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:56 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> This guy sounds like a cranky old b@st@rd >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Rich Thomas >>> Date: September 19, 2020 at 12:18:22 PM EDT >>> To: craigslist 7198743797 < >> 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@sale.craigslist.org> >>> Subject: Re: 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash) >>> >>> No sir not at all a time waster. Not worth my time to drive 2-3 hr up >> there then back if I was not interested. Quite interested. I can kick tires >> around here all day long if that was my thing. Just trying to organize a >> time to look at the car, maybe bring a buddy along too who has interests in >> old Benzes. >>> >>> --R >>> Sent from iPhone >>> > On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:34 AM, craigslist 7198743797 < >> 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@sale.craigslist.org> wrote: > No its not where I am I'm looking for a local buyer.Sounds like a >> couple guys wanting to waste my time.more than you have ready. No thanks On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 11:26:47 AM EDT, Rich Thomas < >> 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@reply.craigslist.org> wrote: Thanks, sounds interesting. You around tomorrow afternoon? I'm down >> south of Charleston a bit so will take a little while to get up your way >> but I'm up for a little road trip. Another Benz buddy of mine might want >> to come along too, we have a coupla fleets between us --R On 9/19/20 11:04 AM, craigslist 7198743797 wrote: Hi It was running when put upand I damn near had it started >> recently...it actually did start for a few seconds...changed out fuel >> filters...introduced air in fuel system...fuel not very goodtested bad >> as expected, glow plugs inop and battery toast Still reading?? >> Otherwise a pretty clean car body wise...only one ding/dent no paint >> missingpaintless dent repair likely fix itinterior leather not too >> bad but front seats to have rips Due to the nature of it I make >> absolutely no guaranteesperiod.sold as-is where-is. >> Cheapand cheap is $1000/OBO and that includes my rare Borbet Type e >> wheels off my old S class. ONLY 3 though as it was totalled in a wreck >> and the 4th wheel/tire was destroyed On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 10:54:53 AM EDT, Rich Thomas < >> 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@reply.craigslist.org> wrote: Tell me a bit more about the SDL please! Interested to add to my fleet of 126s and diesels Was it running before it was put up? You think it might start and run? How cheap is "Cheap"? I can haul it away... Thanks... --R Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html About craigslist mail: https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): https://craigslist.org/mf/bbc222d0a30272a94d2e4012bca3796176a227d4.1 Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html About craigslist mail: https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): https://craigslist.org/mf/825888eeea2899e1d25d46b6b3e2ea8d9f858760.1 Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html About craigslist mail: https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): https://craigslist.org/mf/f80836b2b0689486b46546b59e2b9a307edcab33.1 Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html About craigslist mail: https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): https://craigslist.org/mf/fa1f3833a336f6d55810455d879770a456580214.1 >> ___ >>
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Here is that PF YouTube review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN8A2nIMUWA=youtu.be=6 -Original Message- From: Scott Ritchey Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:52 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: RE: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now) Me too. Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now it's sudden death in my experience. Jumper cables are OK but you need an second, healthy car. What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs? I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack. Looked nice and I watched a glowing YouTube review. But it failed totally when my 13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit. That jump pack tried to crank (twice) with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was over the temp limit. That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed 50% when it quit. A big disappointment. I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed good results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review. In that review the guy actually tested several brands. I haven't needed it yet (and hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience. My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the car is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge. Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, IMO. Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow truck or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook). Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even turn the engine. If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have cables handy). Allan Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries, was: Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Me too. Back in the day it seemed batteries died gradually but now it's sudden death in my experience. Jumper cables are OK but you need an second, healthy car. What is the consensus about these Lithium-ion jump packs? I bought a Noco Genius Boost Plus GB40 1000 Amp jump pack. Looked nice and I watched a glowing YouTube review. But it failed totally when my 13-year-old AGM tractor battery quit. That jump pack tried to crank (twice) with almost no effect and then gave up indicating the Li-ion bat was over the temp limit. That jump pack started at 100% charge and still showed 50% when it quit. A big disappointment. I recently bought an Audew 2000A Peak 2mAh jump pack which showed good results (much better than Nico) on a Project Farm YouTube review. In that review the guy actually tested several brands. I haven't needed it yet (and hopefully won't) so I've no actual experience. My Outback has a USB outlet in the cargo area which is powered when the car is running so I leave the jump pack there, plugged in to charge. Andrew's point about towing insurance makes more sense in urban areas, IMO. Living in a very rural area, I prefer self-rescue vs waiting for a tow truck or a good Samaritan (who could turn out to be a crook). Scott -Original Message- From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even turn the engine. If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have cables handy). Allan Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1989 560 SEL - $2,900
The build codes weren't as much fun as I hoped. Gray Pearl Metallic paint. Rear seat footrests. http://mb-teilekatalog.info/view_DatacardAction.php?lang=E=WDBCA39E8KA438741 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash)
You appealed to his better nature. Let's hope he has one. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:56 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This guy sounds like a cranky old b@st@rd > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Rich Thomas > > Date: September 19, 2020 at 12:18:22 PM EDT > > To: craigslist 7198743797 < > 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@sale.craigslist.org> > > Subject: Re: 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash) > > > > No sir not at all a time waster. Not worth my time to drive 2-3 hr up > there then back if I was not interested. Quite interested. I can kick tires > around here all day long if that was my thing. Just trying to organize a > time to look at the car, maybe bring a buddy along too who has interests in > old Benzes. > > > > --R > > Sent from iPhone > > > >>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:34 AM, craigslist 7198743797 < > 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@sale.craigslist.org> wrote: > >>> > >> > >> No its not where I am I'm looking for a local buyer.Sounds like a > couple guys wanting to waste my time.more than you have ready. No thanks > >> > >> On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 11:26:47 AM EDT, Rich Thomas < > 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@reply.craigslist.org> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Thanks, sounds interesting. You around tomorrow afternoon? I'm down > south of Charleston a bit so will take a little while to get up your way > but I'm up for a little road trip. Another Benz buddy of mine might want > to come along too, we have a coupla fleets between us > >> > >> --R > >> > >> On 9/19/20 11:04 AM, craigslist 7198743797 wrote: > >> > >> Hi It was running when put upand I damn near had it started > recently...it actually did start for a few seconds...changed out fuel > filters...introduced air in fuel system...fuel not very goodtested bad > as expected, glow plugs inop and battery toast Still reading?? > Otherwise a pretty clean car body wise...only one ding/dent no paint > missingpaintless dent repair likely fix itinterior leather not too > bad but front seats to have rips Due to the nature of it I make > absolutely no guaranteesperiod.sold as-is where-is. > Cheapand cheap is $1000/OBO and that includes my rare Borbet Type e > wheels off my old S class. ONLY 3 though as it was totalled in a wreck > and the 4th wheel/tire was destroyed > >> > >> > >> > >> On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 10:54:53 AM EDT, Rich Thomas < > 49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@reply.craigslist.org> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Tell me a bit more about the SDL please! Interested to add to my fleet > >> of 126s and diesels > >> > >> Was it running before it was put up? You think it might start and run? > >> > >> How cheap is "Cheap"? I can haul it away... > >> > >> Thanks... > >> > >> --R > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Original craigslist post: > >> > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html > >> About craigslist mail: > >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay > >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): > >> https://craigslist.org/mf/bbc222d0a30272a94d2e4012bca3796176a227d4.1 > >> > >> > >> > >> Original craigslist post: > >> > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html > >> About craigslist mail: > >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay > >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): > >> https://craigslist.org/mf/825888eeea2899e1d25d46b6b3e2ea8d9f858760.1 > >> > >> > >> Original craigslist post: > >> > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html > >> About craigslist mail: > >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay > >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): > >> https://craigslist.org/mf/f80836b2b0689486b46546b59e2b9a307edcab33.1 > >> > >> > >> Original craigslist post: > >> > https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html > >> About craigslist mail: > >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay > >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): > >> https://craigslist.org/mf/fa1f3833a336f6d55810455d879770a456580214.1 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
I also have towing on my insurance policy. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 2:39 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. > > They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to > even turn the engine. > > If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least > carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, > so it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't > have cables handy). > > Allan > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > > > If you still want the best diesel I recommend the 250 GLK BlueTEC > > which was made from 2013 through 2015. Mine still has the original > > seven-year-old varta battery which is strong and does not need > > replacement despite being drained twice in the last month. My most > > recent fuel economy was nearly 36 mpg, which included off Highway > > local road travel as well as highway speed. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: replace fan on video card?
The river of warrior women will also have them. Sometimes they have 4 little screws in the corners that go into the fins on the heat sink to hold them on. Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: My computer has an older video card, this one specifically: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-hd-7470-oem.c299 The cooling fan no longer works. When the GPU gets too hot, the screen goes black and the computer locks up hard. Seems like it should be straigtforward to replace the fan. Anyone got good ideas for where to find a compatible one? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1989 560 SEL - $2,900
https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/indianapolis-mercedes-benz-560-sel/7199036785.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
On 2020-09-19 12:46, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Think of all the electronics, electrical and hydraulic thinks to fix every weekend? Dan had one which was trouble free. He quickly resold it before anything went wrong. Clay had one for a few years. His wife no longer allows him to buy MBZ. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 12:46:54 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Think of all the electronics, electrical and hydraulic thinks to fix > every weekend? Thinking of thinking about those thinks every weekend is enought to send me away from it. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
In my experience, batteries are fine, until suddenly they are not. They can overnight go from starting fine to not having enough juice to even turn the engine. If your battery is seven years old I'd advise replacing it, or at least carrying a set of jumper cables in your car (few people do these days, so it's often hard to find someone who can give you a jump if you don't have cables handy). Allan Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > If you still want the best diesel I recommend the 250 GLK BlueTEC > which was made from 2013 through 2015. Mine still has the original > seven-year-old varta battery which is strong and does not need > replacement despite being drained twice in the last month. My most > recent fuel economy was nearly 36 mpg, which included off Highway > local road travel as well as highway speed. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
There was a HUUUGE difference in the DSG transmission in the 2014 Beetle TDI and the nearly identical new 2015. The 2014 was quite jerky starting out like a novice driving a manual, and the 2015 was nearly as smooth as a conventional automatic transmission. The shifts were quick and crisp. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 19, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > I HATE DSG transmissions. I hate how they sound, I hate how they jerk in a > parking lot. I hate the feeling during shifts and they're fragile. Nothing to > like about those. > The 6spd manual in my Jetta is a fantastic transmission, it shifts smoothly > and its geared nicely to live with. Sure its not a Mercedes but in 2015 you > could have my car for around $20,000. Very affordable compared to a Mercedes. > Its 80% as good (maybe more, 50mpg remember) for half the money. > -Curt > >On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 11:10:10 AM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not quite accurate - our Passat TDI was one of the cheating cars and needed > BlueTec fluid. The only things I didn't like about that car were the > maintenance costs for the dual clutch tranny, the seats were not as > comfortable as the W124, and the wind noise was higher than an old W124 at > 70mph. > >> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational >> parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions. >> >> The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was >> being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order >> to meet the test. >> >> Of course it didn't when run on the road, it wasn't intended to. >> >> The law is quite specific about this. >> >> VW decided to cheat instead of using BlueTec technology, and got caught.. >> Seems Daimler did something similar, although it doesn't seem to have been >> so egregious. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
I had a Jetta once, a 1991 model year (A2) purchased new (I was young and my dad always bought his cars new, so I just thought that was the right way to do it). I paid between $12K and $13K for it IIRC. 5-speed manual, 1.8l NA 8v engine. This was a non-interference engine which was important given the reputation VWs had for timing belts failing at the replacement interval + 1 mile. Shifted like butter, and had that solid german feel and handling unlike modern VWs that are indistinguishable from Japanese cars. Loved the car until it was about 10 years old, then everything started falling apart. I'm sure 8 years of Northern IL winters didn't help. Also owned a '91 Vanagon for a few years until it was totaled in a wreck. I do miss that van. I was contemplating a Subaru engine transplant or the Bostig Ford Zetec kit. I'd seriously consider another one but nice examples are very rare around here. Local VW dealer currently has a very nicely restored Type 2 sitting on the lot as eye candy for passers-by. Asking $60K for it. Allan Curt Raymond via Mercedes writes: > I HATE DSG transmissions. I hate how they sound, I hate how they jerk in a > parking lot. I hate the feeling during shifts and they're fragile. Nothing to > like about those. > The 6spd manual in my Jetta is a fantastic transmission, it shifts smoothly > and its geared nicely to live with. Sure its not a Mercedes but in 2015 you > could have my car for around $20,000. Very affordable compared to a Mercedes. > Its 80% as good (maybe more, 50mpg remember) for half the money. > -Curt > > On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 11:10:10 AM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > Not quite accurate - our Passat TDI was one of the cheating cars and needed > BlueTec fluid. The only things I didn't like about that car were the > maintenance costs for the dual clutch tranny, the seats were not as > comfortable as the W124, and the wind noise was higher than an old W124 at > 70mph. > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational >> parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions. >> >> The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was >> being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order >> to meet the test. >> >> Of course it didn't when run on the road, it wasn't intended to. >> >> The law is quite specific about this. >> >> VW decided to cheat instead of using BlueTec technology, and got caught.. >> Seems Daimler did something similar, although it doesn't seem to have been >> so egregious. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash)
This guy sounds like a cranky old b@st@rd --FT Sent from iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Rich Thomas > Date: September 19, 2020 at 12:18:22 PM EDT > To: craigslist 7198743797 > <49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@sale.craigslist.org> > Subject: Re: 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash) > > No sir not at all a time waster. Not worth my time to drive 2-3 hr up there > then back if I was not interested. Quite interested. I can kick tires around > here all day long if that was my thing. Just trying to organize a time to > look at the car, maybe bring a buddy along too who has interests in old > Benzes. > > --R > Sent from iPhone > >>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 11:34 AM, craigslist 7198743797 >>> <49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@sale.craigslist.org> wrote: >>> >> >> No its not where I am I'm looking for a local buyer.Sounds like a couple >> guys wanting to waste my time.more than you have ready. No thanks >> >> On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 11:26:47 AM EDT, Rich Thomas >> <49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@reply.craigslist.org> wrote: >> >> >> Thanks, sounds interesting. You around tomorrow afternoon? I'm down south >> of Charleston a bit so will take a little while to get up your way but I'm >> up for a little road trip. Another Benz buddy of mine might want to come >> along too, we have a coupla fleets between us >> >> --R >> >> On 9/19/20 11:04 AM, craigslist 7198743797 wrote: >> >> Hi It was running when put upand I damn near had it started >> recently...it actually did start for a few seconds...changed out fuel >> filters...introduced air in fuel system...fuel not very goodtested bad >> as expected, glow plugs inop and battery toast Still reading?? Otherwise >> a pretty clean car body wise...only one ding/dent no paint >> missingpaintless dent repair likely fix itinterior leather not too >> bad but front seats to have rips Due to the nature of it I make >> absolutely no guaranteesperiod.sold as-is where-is. Cheapand >> cheap is $1000/OBO and that includes my rare Borbet Type e wheels off my old >> S class. ONLY 3 though as it was totalled in a wreck and the 4th >> wheel/tire was destroyed >> >> >> >> On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 10:54:53 AM EDT, Rich Thomas >> <49b36254a0f43fdf85dce756a8799...@reply.craigslist.org> wrote: >> >> >> >> Tell me a bit more about the SDL please! Interested to add to my fleet >> of 126s and diesels >> >> Was it running before it was put up? You think it might start and run? >> >> How cheap is "Cheap"? I can haul it away... >> >> Thanks... >> >> --R >> >> >> >> >> Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html >> About craigslist mail: >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): >> https://craigslist.org/mf/bbc222d0a30272a94d2e4012bca3796176a227d4.1 >> >> >> >> Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html >> About craigslist mail: >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): >> https://craigslist.org/mf/825888eeea2899e1d25d46b6b3e2ea8d9f858760.1 >> >> >> Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html >> About craigslist mail: >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): >> https://craigslist.org/mf/f80836b2b0689486b46546b59e2b9a307edcab33.1 >> >> >> Original craigslist post: >> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html >> About craigslist mail: >> https://craigslist.org/about/help/email-relay >> Please flag unwanted messages (spam, scam, other): >> https://craigslist.org/mf/fa1f3833a336f6d55810455d879770a456580214.1 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
If you still want the best diesel I recommend the 250 GLK BlueTEC which was made from 2013 through 2015. Mine still has the original seven-year-old varta battery which is strong and does not need replacement despite being drained twice in the last month. My most recent fuel economy was nearly 36 mpg, which included off Highway local road travel as well as highway speed. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 1:46 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I saw $1.99 Diesel yesterday. > > On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:56 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink. > > They sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices > fell > > $0.30 while diesel held constant. > > Recently I've seen diesel as low as $2.39. An annoyingly slow drop but > its > > about time. > > -Curt > > > > On Friday, September 18, 2020, 8:19:00 PM EDT, Clay via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > We may be heading to the promised land of hydrogen. The current viral > > unrest has caused a depression in fossil fuel demand, with a decrease in > > value. With fuel hanging around $40 bbl there is no incentives to sink > > funding into production, exploration, or delivery. Long term outlook is > > for continued very low demand for refining. As the sale price goes up, > the > > idled production comes back online which further depresses the prices. > It > > is barely break even to produce normal oil at $40, let alone shale or > more > > complex plays. Gas prices should remain down until refinery closes down > > and makes pump prices rise, but there is no way for that to translate to > > the rig pricing. > > > > All the glut of oil may be a prime time to crack the hydrogen out of it > > and fill tanks with water producing eco fuel. Except the price for > energy > > to crack it will go up. > > > > > > clay > > > > “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our > > history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this > > general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” > > > > B. Johnson > > 01/09/2020 > > > > > On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > The problem with the diesels and NOx is that it's not possible to meet > > the standard. With ANY diesel engine. Bad standard, as the NOx isn't > all > > that much worse than what's produced by gasoline engines, which also > > produce quite a bit of particulate pollution. > > > > > > The real solution for clean air is to turn the clock back to the 1930s, > > when we had integrated communities with work, schools, stores, and > > professional services close by and intelligent urban design that moved > > large numbers of people the same direction at the same time. > > > > > > We allowed GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Rubber to addict us to > driving > > all time, which I'm coming to intensely dislike. > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
Think of all the electronics, electrical and hydraulic thinks to fix every weekend? On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 12:15 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:51:01 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > On 2020-09-19 10:43, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > > > > Anything to be wary of > > > > Just the entire car. > > OH!!! As in, "Run away as fast as you can!"? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
I saw $1.99 Diesel yesterday. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:56 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink. > They sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices fell > $0.30 while diesel held constant. > Recently I've seen diesel as low as $2.39. An annoyingly slow drop but its > about time. > -Curt > > On Friday, September 18, 2020, 8:19:00 PM EDT, Clay via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > We may be heading to the promised land of hydrogen. The current viral > unrest has caused a depression in fossil fuel demand, with a decrease in > value. With fuel hanging around $40 bbl there is no incentives to sink > funding into production, exploration, or delivery. Long term outlook is > for continued very low demand for refining. As the sale price goes up, the > idled production comes back online which further depresses the prices. It > is barely break even to produce normal oil at $40, let alone shale or more > complex plays. Gas prices should remain down until refinery closes down > and makes pump prices rise, but there is no way for that to translate to > the rig pricing. > > All the glut of oil may be a prime time to crack the hydrogen out of it > and fill tanks with water producing eco fuel. Except the price for energy > to crack it will go up. > > > clay > > “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our > history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this > general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” > > B. Johnson > 01/09/2020 > > > On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > The problem with the diesels and NOx is that it's not possible to meet > the standard. With ANY diesel engine. Bad standard, as the NOx isn't all > that much worse than what's produced by gasoline engines, which also > produce quite a bit of particulate pollution. > > > > The real solution for clean air is to turn the clock back to the 1930s, > when we had integrated communities with work, schools, stores, and > professional services close by and intelligent urban design that moved > large numbers of people the same direction at the same time. > > > > We allowed GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Rubber to addict us to driving > all time, which I'm coming to intensely dislike. > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:51:01 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > On 2020-09-19 10:43, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > > Anything to be wary of > > Just the entire car. OH!!! As in, "Run away as fast as you can!"? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
I HATE DSG transmissions. I hate how they sound, I hate how they jerk in a parking lot. I hate the feeling during shifts and they're fragile. Nothing to like about those. The 6spd manual in my Jetta is a fantastic transmission, it shifts smoothly and its geared nicely to live with. Sure its not a Mercedes but in 2015 you could have my car for around $20,000. Very affordable compared to a Mercedes. Its 80% as good (maybe more, 50mpg remember) for half the money. -Curt On Saturday, September 19, 2020, 11:10:10 AM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Not quite accurate - our Passat TDI was one of the cheating cars and needed BlueTec fluid. The only things I didn't like about that car were the maintenance costs for the dual clutch tranny, the seats were not as comfortable as the W124, and the wind noise was higher than an old W124 at 70mph. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational > parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions. > > The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was > being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order > to meet the test. > > Of course it didn't when run on the road, it wasn't intended to. > > The law is quite specific about this. > > VW decided to cheat instead of using BlueTec technology, and got caught.. > Seems Daimler did something similar, although it doesn't seem to have been > so egregious. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Speaking of low demand I've actually seen diesel prices start to sink. They sat at $2.59 from basically the beginning of the year. Gas prices fell $0.30 while diesel held constant. Recently I've seen diesel as low as $2.39. An annoyingly slow drop but its about time. -Curt On Friday, September 18, 2020, 8:19:00 PM EDT, Clay via Mercedes wrote: We may be heading to the promised land of hydrogen. The current viral unrest has caused a depression in fossil fuel demand, with a decrease in value. With fuel hanging around $40 bbl there is no incentives to sink funding into production, exploration, or delivery. Long term outlook is for continued very low demand for refining. As the sale price goes up, the idled production comes back online which further depresses the prices. It is barely break even to produce normal oil at $40, let alone shale or more complex plays. Gas prices should remain down until refinery closes down and makes pump prices rise, but there is no way for that to translate to the rig pricing. All the glut of oil may be a prime time to crack the hydrogen out of it and fill tanks with water producing eco fuel. Except the price for energy to crack it will go up. clay “I think it’s time we stopped our cringing embarrassment about our history, about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of self-recrimination and wetness.” B. Johnson 01/09/2020 > On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes > wrote: > > The problem with the diesels and NOx is that it's not possible to meet the > standard. With ANY diesel engine. Bad standard, as the NOx isn't all that > much worse than what's produced by gasoline engines, which also produce quite > a bit of particulate pollution. > > The real solution for clean air is to turn the clock back to the 1930s, when > we had integrated communities with work, schools, stores, and professional > services close by and intelligent urban design that moved large numbers of > people the same direction at the same time. > > We allowed GM, Standard Oil, and Goodyear Rubber to addict us to driving all > time, which I'm coming to intensely dislike. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
On 2020-09-19 11:40, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Yes I take your point on test conditions, but I would like to see the language of that law. I doubt the Clean Air Act says diddly about what qualifies as meeting standards, that, as well as the standards themselves, is a regulatory matter. The thing about federal regulations is that you can be punished under them just like being punished under a law, but the regs are always interpreted in favor of your accuser who wrote them and gets to change its mind about what they mean whenever it wants, and hold you retroactively responsible for any change. Sort of like BATF issuing several opinion letters over a period of years saying that a rifle buttstock is not a machine gun, and then the president saying 'it's a machine gun, make it so, I don't care what the law says', and then the BATF saying "We issued new regulations regarding your gun stocks. You have xx days to get rid of them or go to prison for up to 10 years per newly regulated possession, and no, we aren't compensating you for taking your possessions". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Yes I take your point on test conditions, but I would like to see the language of that law. I would argue any time multuple auto manufacturers are found to be in multibillion dollar violation of a law, that either the law is poorly written or the interpretation of that law was changed. Like suddenly both vw and Mercedes decided independently to commit massive emissions fraud? Unlikely. The PR is terrible and look at the direct cost. Our Touareg ran bluetec also. That wasnt the issue with it. They just fixed the software and we kept driving it. It took an hour. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 6:48 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational > parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions. > > The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was > being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order > to meet the test. > > Of course it didn't when run on the road, it wasn't intended to. > > The law is quite specific about this. > > VW decided to cheat instead of using BlueTec technology, and got caught.. > Seems Daimler did something similar, although it doesn't seem to have been > so egregious. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Somehow I dont think the aviation community is going to drink the kool aid. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 7:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Interesting, I wonder how much it will bring on BAT vs Barnstormers, etc. > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Ah, I didn't see that you'd fixed it, and that I'd screwed it up. Thanks. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 11:13 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2020-09-19 10:52, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > The elevator does move the tail of the aircraft down to increase the > > angle > > of attack of the sign, which increases lift, making you go up. > > That's why I fixed it for you when you said "but not so far forward that > you can't lift the tail with the elevator." > > I suppose I could have fixed it better by simply changing "tail" to > "nose". > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On 2020-09-19 10:52, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: The elevator does move the tail of the aircraft down to increase the angle of attack of the sign, which increases lift, making you go up. That's why I fixed it for you when you said "but not so far forward that you can't lift the tail with the elevator." I suppose I could have fixed it better by simply changing "tail" to "nose". ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
The elevator does move the tail of the aircraft down to increase the angle of attack of the sign, which increases lift, making you go up. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 10:50 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 2020-09-19 10:45, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > CG needs to be in front of the center of lift, but not so far forward > > that > > you can't push the tail down with the elevator. > > > FIFY. > Oh, well. The other day in another internet group, I said east of the > Mississippi when referring to the western side of the country. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
On 2020-09-19 10:43, Craig via Mercedes wrote: Anything to be wary of Just the entire car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On 2020-09-19 10:45, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: CG needs to be in front of the center of lift, but not so far forward that you can't push the tail down with the elevator. FIFY. Oh, well. The other day in another internet group, I said east of the Mississippi when referring to the western side of the country. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
No Intentional spins - it is hard to recover from them. Solo from the rear seat only - weight and balance is very critical for flight. Without someone in the rear seat, there is not enough elevator authority to take-off or climb, perhaps to even maintain level flight. The CG needs to be in front of the center of lift, but not so far forward that you can't lift the tail with the elevator. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 10:34 AM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:36:04 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > > I noticed two interesting placards on the instrument panel: > > - NO INTENTIONAL SPINS > > - SOLO FROM REAR SEAT ONLY > > Why these restrictions? > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Any comments about this S430?
Any comments about the S430 ad below? What chassis would it be (W220?)? Anything to be wary of or pay attention to? Thanks, Craig https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/santa-fe-you-can-be-part-of-the/7185712263.html 2003 Mercedes-Benz s430 4MATIC, Spacious and roomy enough for a small family to fit in, Attractive, and elegant appearance!!! You can be part of the Mercedes-Benz S-Class experience! Strong running V8 4.3L under the hood., Automatic transmission, AWD!!! Smooth and comfortable to drive with great handling, 146,000 highway miles, Finished in Nice Silver paint over a black leather interior. Fully loaded with Navigation system, Power, heated & Ventilated front Seats with memory settings, power windows, power mirrors and locks, Air Conditioning (blows REAL cold) Fantastic BOSE premium Sound System, Cruise control, Sunroof!, Rear Window Shade, Premium Wheels, good tires, Non-smoker car, Extremely clean inside and out clean, as you can see in the pics, Definitely this is the perfect car for you! If your looking for a great addition to your household or a wonderful vehicle to take the place of another! FIRST PERSON WITH CASH $3900 GETS A BEAUTIFUL MERCEDES!!! ***Please don't contact me with a lowball offer***. come take a look, I know you'll be impressed! CLEAN TITLE in hand. Serious buyers ONLY, Thank you! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] THIS IS IT!!! POOS'S NEW SLK!!!!
On 2020-09-19 09:46, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Nothing else like it! Indeed. I've never seen a 230SLK with 230kmi, or even close to it. I think I saw one with 140k once. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:36:04 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ I noticed two interesting placards on the instrument panel: - NO INTENTIONAL SPINS - SOLO FROM REAR SEAT ONLY Why these restrictions? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We've had just about enough
On 2020-09-19 10:11, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: This was the "fine, you don't like what I provide? Then YOU go pick out a car, and take care of it yourself" vehicle. We bought it used, not new. My ML350 (3.7 V6) is good for 18-20 mpg, don't know what that corresponds to with Jill driving. Liftgate not tailgate, feels short and Jeeplike, but is supposed to have pretty good offroad capability for a 'luxury SUV'. With the right tires and 4Matic it would have done well on your ice mountain. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 08:03:33 -0500 Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > Craig needs this: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2018-alfa-romeo-4c-coupe-2/ Sure, if you will buy it for me and pay the insurance! :-) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We've had just about enough
The X5 is a good-looking car, and had all the features we needed. It felt safe and solid, and the I6 engine was strong enough and got somewhat better mileage. I think the usual fillup was 21mpg. I really like the tailgate, gives you a place to sit if you want. The hill descent button, used something like three times on the worst luge days, was somewhat amazing. The car was highly satisfactory, _as a car_, but its appetite for money was untenable. This was the "fine, you don't like what I provide? Then YOU go pick out a car, and take care of it yourself" vehicle. We bought it used, not new. But we're sick of its crap, and we don't need it anymore. Kid's in college now; soccer mom is over. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] THIS IS IT!!! POOS'S NEW SLK!!!!
On Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:46:54 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > https://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/d/washington-1998-mercedes-coca-cola-cart/7198596871.html > Nothing else like it! That's for sure! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Not quite accurate - our Passat TDI was one of the cheating cars and needed BlueTec fluid. The only things I didn't like about that car were the maintenance costs for the dual clutch tranny, the seats were not as comfortable as the W124, and the wind noise was higher than an old W124 at 70mph. On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 8:48 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational > parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions. > > The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was > being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order > to meet the test. > > Of course it didn't when run on the road, it wasn't intended to. > > The law is quite specific about this. > > VW decided to cheat instead of using BlueTec technology, and got caught.. > Seems Daimler did something similar, although it doesn't seem to have been > so egregious. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] hmmmmm... 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash)
The Frankenheap has, if you squint at it just right, essentially the same engine. It had sat for 10 years, and started immediately once a good battery was put on it. No cooling or charging system, but ready to run. I wouldn't be scared of that car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] hmmmmm... 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel (Calabash)
https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/pts/d/calabash-1987-mercedes-300sdl-turbo/7198743797.html I bet this would start right up with new filters or some diesel in a can, jump the GP relay? I wonder how cheap is cheap... 1987 Mercedes 300SDL Turbo Diesel(Calabash) condition: *fair* make / manufacturer: *Mercedes Benz* One owner car.its been in storage for years. I had it startedcurrently does not runneeds fuel system cleanse and purgeglow plugs Pretty clean solid old W126 chassis big daddy Benz but needs work 200,000 milessome records and clean, clear title Parts (what a shame and don't tell me) or restore Cheapbuyer hauls it away * -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Will buff up well. Bring own wheels
https://greenville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/greer-2006-mercedes-benz-cls/7198480887.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] THIS IS IT!!! POOS'S NEW SLK!!!!
Nothing else like it! Combo deal! https://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/d/washington-1998-mercedes-coca-cola-cart/7198596871.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
No, the testing is supposed to be done with exactly the same operational parameters in the computers as real world driving conditions. The fine is for writing software that figured out when the vehicle was being emission tested and using DIFFERENT operational parameters in order to meet the test. Of course it didn't when run on the road, it wasn't intended to. The law is quite specific about this. VW decided to cheat instead of using BlueTec technology, and got caught.. Seems Daimler did something similar, although it doesn't seem to have been so egregious. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do these wheels look familiar?
Oh and I told the guy I was selling the 99 E320 and he was very interested so I might have a deal there. He had one he gave to his grandson and misses it. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 19, 2020, at 9:07 AM, Buggered Benzmail > wrote: > > Well I went and bought them. The wheels are in good shape, 2 had some minor > scuffing but nothing really noticeable. Conti tars with some tread left, > usable. If I can get this cheepcheep ML320 limp mode issue sorted I think > I’ll put some mudders on these rims, jack it up, and made it look BAAD > > I’ll try to fit them and see what the deal is, use some washers or 3/8” ply > (close enough to 9mm) to test offset (And no I won’t drive it) > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Sep 18, 2020, at 2:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> OK, so +52 is 9mm closer to the centerline of the car than +43, so I think >> a spacer is required. >> >>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:54 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> https://tinyurl.com/y3bkbyfb >>> >>> how to measure offset >>> >>> RB >>> >>> > On 18/09/2020 11:58 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Which way is the offset measured? I don't remember, but Mitch thinks it > goes the other way. Either way, there is a way to mount them in the >>> correct position. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > wait, if these wheels are 43mm offset, and I need 52mm, wouldn't I need > to add 9mm to the 43mm offset, not subtract 9mm -- that would (if could > be done) make them sit too close to the brakes, and make them 34mm? > > --FT > > On 9/18/20 12:47 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >> Have a machine shop mill 9mm off the inside back of the wheels - I >>> wonder >> if they would still be strong enough? >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:05 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2020-09-18 10:58, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: yeah I found them, 08 S550. 18x8.5 ET43. The ML wants ET52 so would need 9mm spacers to fit, which isn't much. The ML55 had 9x18 ET52 so these would pretty much fit with the spacers. Might be worth picking up, pretty cheap for some wheels and tires that look half decent. Spacers are fairly cheap. >>> 9mm spacers are easy. -9mm spacers are harder to make. >>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Do these wheels look familiar?
Well I went and bought them. The wheels are in good shape, 2 had some minor scuffing but nothing really noticeable. Conti tars with some tread left, usable. If I can get this cheepcheep ML320 limp mode issue sorted I think I’ll put some mudders on these rims, jack it up, and made it look BAAD I’ll try to fit them and see what the deal is, use some washers or 3/8” ply (close enough to 9mm) to test offset (And no I won’t drive it) --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 18, 2020, at 2:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > OK, so +52 is 9mm closer to the centerline of the car than +43, so I think > a spacer is required. > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 12:54 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> https://tinyurl.com/y3bkbyfb >> >> how to measure offset >> >> RB >> >> >>> On 18/09/2020 11:58 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >>> Which way is the offset measured? I don't remember, but Mitch thinks it >>> goes the other way. Either way, there is a way to mount them in the >> correct >>> position. >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:56 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> wait, if these wheels are 43mm offset, and I need 52mm, wouldn't I need to add 9mm to the 43mm offset, not subtract 9mm -- that would (if could be done) make them sit too close to the brakes, and make them 34mm? --FT On 9/18/20 12:47 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Have a machine shop mill 9mm off the inside back of the wheels - I >> wonder > if they would still be strong enough? > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 11:05 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> On 2020-09-18 10:58, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >>> yeah I found them, 08 S550. 18x8.5 ET43. The ML wants ET52 so would >>> need 9mm spacers to fit, which isn't much. The ML55 had 9x18 ET52 so >>> these would pretty much fit with the spacers. Might be worth picking >>> up, pretty cheap for some wheels and tires that look half decent. >>> Spacers are fairly cheap. >> 9mm spacers are easy. -9mm spacers are harder to make. >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
On 2020-09-19 06:47, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Man, BAT is really branching out. But you can still buy a Cosworth-Mercedes there. Those are not 1986 headlights. They look like the lights on my 1987 Turbo. It looks like I need to sink some $$ into restoring my black 5sp 1986. But mine's only 15 years owned and I haven't swapped in a 100k odometer. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-mercedes-benz-190e-2-3-16-47/ Craig needs this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2018-alfa-romeo-4c-coupe-2/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car In Atlanta
It’s sold. Hotlanna too far for me to chase a car. I do see some interesting deals over that way though --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 18, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Two days. Not two weeks. > > Floyd? > Max? > Rick Hawkins? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/333725269318 > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: September 18, 2020 5:30 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Kaleb Car In Atlanta > > I saw that. No way I couldn’t get there within the next 2 weeks. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 18, 2020, at 6:24 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >> >> Has to be gone on the 20th. >> I thought about it, but there's no way I can get it that quick. >> >> https://www.ebay.com/itm/333725269318 >> >> Rick > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] This is what I'm talking about
I had a rental Lincoln a few years back that did that shut off thing unless you kept a bit of throttle while breaked. So both feet in play at a stop. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:34 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > But in the 2020 GLA I droe today - if you apply less pressure on the brake > the engine keeps on idling. > >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 2:26 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: >> >>> When you put your foot on the brake the engine shuts off to save gas. >> >> I hate that. I drove a rental VW that did that. There was a button near >> the shifter that disabled it. >> >> I wonder how many additional starter motors those cars will need over a >> lifetime? If even one, I would guess towing, parts/labor and loss of use >> costs would negate any savings on fuel. >> >> Allan >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kleb car at a Kleb price
Just get some LED bars and mount them on the front and drive the thing as it is --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 18, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/greenwood-90-mercedes-300/7198631853.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Man, BAT is really branching out. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 3:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Daimler cheated too? (I'm sure VW feels better now)
Missed opportunity. They don't import any diesels any more that I am aware of. I looked for a diesel suv in 2018 and couldnt find any.at the dealers. Our old 2014 vw touareg diesel is still chugging merrily around the black hills with my sister at the wheel. Pushes 40mpg on the highway. 400 ft lbs of torque. Great car. I guess my problem with the fines is that the cars complied with the testing at the time, which was emissions on rollers in a shed somewhere. Then they decided to change the test to variable conditions real world driving, and surprise - the old cars did not meet the standard. This is called moving the goalposts. It is not mercedes' fault that the original test was crap and only tested one operating condition. If you only test for that, of course everyone is going to optimize their software for that. It is like deciding after grades are out to have everyone come back to take a different exam and then change the curve so they all fail. Kind of a shakedown type move. Meanwhile even the worst of these cars puts out a fraction of what any old 123 or 124 puts out every day. I like clean air as much as the next guy. Bring on the lithium and the hydrogen. Frankly I am more interested in what India and China are doing on emissions than what we are doing, even though we seem to pollute a lot also. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 11:50 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/massive-15-billion-proposed-settlement-announced-alleged-vehicle > > The U.S. Department of Justice, Environmental Protection Agency, and > California Air Resources Board on Monday announced a proposed settlement > worth around $1.5 billion with auto titan Daimler AG and U.S. subsidiary > Mercedes Benz USA, in connection with the company allegedly selling more > than a quarter million vehicles while failing to comply with emissions > requirements. > > The automaker over a period spanning from 2009 to 2016 allegedly sold in > excess of 250,000 vehicles with undeclared auxiliary emission control > devices (AECDs) "and defeat devices programmed into the vehicles' complex > emissions control software," the Justice Deparment said in a press release > < > https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-reaches-15-billion-settlement-daimler-ag-over-emissions-cheating-mercedes-benz-diesel > > > . > > "These devices cause the vehicles to produce compliant results during > emissions testing. But when not running a test, the vehicles’ emissions > controls perform differently, and less effectively, resulting in an > increase in NOx emissions above compliant levels," the department said. > > As part of the proposed settlement, the company would pay $875,000,000 for > civil penalties and approximately $70,300,000 for other penalties. It would > also recall and fix emissions systems for Mercedes-Benz diesel vehicles > that were sold in America between 2009-2016. > > Other aspects of the settlement would boost the estimated amount to > approximately $1.5 billion. > > "The company will also extend the warranty period for certain parts in the > repaired vehicles, perform projects to mitigate excess ozone-creating > nitrogen oxides (NOx) emitted from the vehicles, and implement new internal > audit procedures designed to prevent future emissions cheating," according > to the Justice Department. "The recall program and federal mitigation > project are expected to cost the company about $436,000,000. The company > will pay another $110,000,000 to fund mitigation projects in California." > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT, for those interested in the manly art of flight
Coworker at Kohler had one of these that he restored. I got to fly in it a couple of times. Definitely an experience everyone should have at least once. -D > On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > 3 days remaining on the BAT sale... and $65,000 is cheap in today's market, > presuming it has good logs and engine time remaining, etc etc.. > > If you can fly this airplane your next issue airplane is a P51 single seat > fighter, no instructor... get in, fire it up, and learn how to fight with > it... > A.. the days when men were men... > > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 7:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Interesting, I wonder how much it will bring on BAT vs Barnstormers, etc. >> >> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 5:36 PM G Mann via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1942-boeing-stearman-model-75/ >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> OK Don >> >> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to >> pause and reflect." Mark Twain >> >> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” >> Wernher >> Von Braun >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Kleb car at a Kleb price
Probably high 60s here in the afternoon with a breeze. Sky was so clear that within a few minutes I could feel I was going to get burned on my face if I didn’t turn occasionally. No filter here like there is in FL. Nippy last night in the high 40s, but nothing a light jacket didn’t cure. Got an outdoor wedding today outside of Nashville (IN) so it should be equally as nice. -D > On Sep 18, 2020, at 11:22 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > A friend from Florida called me this afternoon to update the Nav in his > Nissan. > It was in the upper 50s and sunny this afternoon. I showed up in gym shorts > and T-shirt, he came out with jeans and a coat on. Insisted on firing up the > car and turning on the heat because I must be freezing. > Mitch. > > >> On 2020-09-18 19:57, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> It’s been awesome. Just came in and got my jacket. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] We've had just about enough
Oh gosh. You actually bought one of those things? That is a 3 year lease-only machine. Everything else is just a world of pain. All BMWs are similar. You can buy a 65,000 528i and 5 years later it is a 9000 car. Poof. Leaking oil everywhere with a trunk that doesnt work. Anyway not that anyone asked but my advice for anyone needing a 3 row suv in the city is a Lexus 460gx. I could go on and on about it, but no need. We did 1400 miles door to door with four people and a 100lb komondor through 117 degree weather and the rocky mountains, Utah kitty corner, Wyoming, california, Nevada and South Dakota last July. Rooftop tent, 120qt cooler and a cargo box on the hitch. Car never missed a beat. Super stable at 80mph uphill, downhill, 30mph headwinds, crosswinds yada yada. Lots of power, low range for getting up trails, full sized spare. LA seems to have figured this out. They are everywhere here. Nice. Heavy, safe truck. They havent changed it since 2015 or so, and I hope they never do. Well maybe the motor eats less timing belts now or something at 200k miles than it used to. Not sure; it has never been in the shop except to turn the brake rotors and change the oil. V8 power, premium gas. AC will freeze you out in the Valley of Fire. A 570 or land cruiser might be superior in terms of room inside, but those dont fit in a parking spot as easily. The 460 was the replacement for a 2018 diesel x5 that ate it's $11,000 high pressure fuel pump twice in 8000 miles and left us standing by the road each time. BMW finally asked for it back as they were too far in the hole and getting deeper on the deal. We drive it for free for 6 months and I would still never consider operating another BMW of any flavor as long as I live. They are a blight on humanity. My wife owned a 528 when I met her and I was too dumb to learn from that experience. Absolute waste of metal. On Fri, Sep 18, 2020, 5:58 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: > The BMW X5 is back from the shop, $1200 and it's already running rough > again after a couple of days. It'll be going back 'on warrantee' I think. > > It has a bad driver's-side motor mount, resulting in the usual on-rails > noises, but also resulting in the front driveline's CV joint scraping on > the frame, which lathed off the clamping band. In BMW's infinite wisdom, > what should be a cheap and easy repair is not, imagine that. > > Disgusted, I removed the aluminum pan underneath and jacked up the > engine about an inch. I got an old piece of heavy radiator hose, > wire-reinforced, > and hammered it flat. I put a 1x4 hardwood stick in it, and wedged the > whole > thing between the front transfer case (the contacting body) and the frame, > and > buttoned it back up. A zip tie re-secured the CV boot. After a shakedown > drive > I looked, and there's still plenty of clearance betwixt frame and CV boot, > unlike > before. It's not as quiet as it should be, but it's a lot quieter than it > was. > > This thing's going on the market. The motor mount need will be disclosed. > We're going to be shut of it, the by-far worst automotive 'investment' > we've > ever had. We no longer need what it was bought for, a newer mommy-van to > soothe > the psyches of the other mommies in the car pool who were frightened of > anything > that was visibly off-warrantee, so it's time for it to go. We have three > 4wd pickup trucks > for any carrying/towing duties that might come up, and any of the sedans > holds as many > people as the X5. The E320 sedans are also 4wd, and have heated seats, so > that's the > winter end of the list covered too. > > Never again! > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
