Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

He paid a shop to do it. But I know what you mean.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 4:47 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> For some it's the journey, not the destination - he must have liked the
> challenge of figuring out how to work with what he picked (or had).
> Projects like this are often not rational ...
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:34 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > It was crying out for a 606. Mechanical diesel, 722.3, etc. The thinking
> > man's option would have been a 648/722.6. For gas, the drivetrain from a
> > 560 drops right in.
> >
> > I will say there appears to have been a lot of nice workmanship and money
> > put into that car. The basic ideas were just kind of random, like that
> > deboss garage dude converting a 124 wagon to LS, creating a ton of crappy
> > work for no apparent reason instead of dropping a 606 in. I mean, at
> least
> > use an m119 if you want a v8 in a 124; bolt a bunch of factory parts up
> and
> > go, rather than reinventing every system on the car e.g. A/C, steering
> > rack, cover strut reinforcement, motor and tranny mounts, fuel tank, blah
> > blah yada yada.
> >
> > Nicer than most similar efforts.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 2:48 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I just made that suggestion.
> > >
> > > -D “flagged as inappropriate"
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
> > > >
> > > > --FT
> > > >
> > > > On 11/23/20 11:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >>
> > >
> >
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[MBZ] Very low miles 2004 E320

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/willowbrook-mercedes-e320/7235884676.html

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[MBZ] TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT SOMEONE WILL SCOOP IT UP

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

all text will be like you talking to the wall stand there and ask it
questions the wall will answer before me

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/berwyn-big-sexy-can-you-handle-it/7235919546.html'



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[MBZ] OT beware of no-name or store-brand networking gear

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

You get what you pay for

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Re: [MBZ] W123 ACC Default Operation

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Or dead servos.

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[MBZ] big sale on HP elitebook

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

$660 is cheaper than $1600

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

But it’s too bad, as the exterior actually looks pretty nice, except for the 
wheels. The aesthetics don’t seem to carry into the interior, I guess.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> For some it's the journey, not the destination - he must have liked the
> challenge of figuring out how to work with what he picked (or had).
> Projects like this are often not rational ...
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:34 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It was crying out for a 606. Mechanical diesel, 722.3, etc. The thinking
>> man's option would have been a 648/722.6. For gas, the drivetrain from a
>> 560 drops right in.
>> 
>> I will say there appears to have been a lot of nice workmanship and money
>> put into that car. The basic ideas were just kind of random, like that
>> deboss garage dude converting a 124 wagon to LS, creating a ton of crappy
>> work for no apparent reason instead of dropping a 606 in. I mean, at least
>> use an m119 if you want a v8 in a 124; bolt a bunch of factory parts up and
>> go, rather than reinventing every system on the car e.g. A/C, steering
>> rack, cover strut reinforcement, motor and tranny mounts, fuel tank, blah
>> blah yada yada.
>> 
>> Nicer than most similar efforts.
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 2:48 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I just made that suggestion.
>>> 
>>> -D “flagged as inappropriate"
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
 
 --FT
 
 On 11/23/20 11:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>>> 
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-9/?fbclid=IwAR3tIfXhjuTMFcb-DRhBXR1QkAsv_YxPj7ZCwCFJO5N6-JUMM_sx-wkzmwA
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

[OK Don via Mercedes]

For some it's the journey, not the destination - he must have liked the
challenge of figuring out how to work with what he picked (or had).
Projects like this are often not rational ...

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:34 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It was crying out for a 606. Mechanical diesel, 722.3, etc. The thinking
> man's option would have been a 648/722.6. For gas, the drivetrain from a
> 560 drops right in.
>
> I will say there appears to have been a lot of nice workmanship and money
> put into that car. The basic ideas were just kind of random, like that
> deboss garage dude converting a 124 wagon to LS, creating a ton of crappy
> work for no apparent reason instead of dropping a 606 in. I mean, at least
> use an m119 if you want a v8 in a 124; bolt a bunch of factory parts up and
> go, rather than reinventing every system on the car e.g. A/C, steering
> rack, cover strut reinforcement, motor and tranny mounts, fuel tank, blah
> blah yada yada.
>
> Nicer than most similar efforts.
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 2:48 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I just made that suggestion.
> >
> > -D “flagged as inappropriate"
> >
> >
> > > On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > > On 11/23/20 11:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-9/?fbclid=IwAR3tIfXhjuTMFcb-DRhBXR1QkAsv_YxPj7ZCwCFJO5N6-JUMM_sx-wkzmwA
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That shifter was a real nightmare, almost cartoonish. How difficult would it 
have been to work out a cable arrangement using the stock shifter?

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:33 PM, Karl Wittnebel  wrote:
> 
> It was crying out for a 606. Mechanical diesel, 722.3, etc. The thinking 
> man's option would have been a 648/722.6. For gas, the drivetrain from a 560 
> drops right in. 
> 
> I will say there appears to have been a lot of nice workmanship and money put 
> into that car. The basic ideas were just kind of random, like that deboss 
> garage dude converting a 124 wagon to LS, creating a ton of crappy work for 
> no apparent reason instead of dropping a 606 in. I mean, at least use an m119 
> if you want a v8 in a 124; bolt a bunch of factory parts up and go, rather 
> than reinventing every system on the car e.g. A/C, steering rack, cover strut 
> reinforcement, motor and tranny mounts, fuel tank, blah blah yada yada. 
> 
> Nicer than most similar efforts. 
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 2:48 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> I just made that suggestion.
> 
> -D “flagged as inappropriate"
> 
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > On 11/23/20 11:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-9/?fbclid=IwAR3tIfXhjuTMFcb-DRhBXR1QkAsv_YxPj7ZCwCFJO5N6-JUMM_sx-wkzmwA
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For what little the “special purchase” deal Kroil offers for like $10 that 
includes a can of the liquid and a spray can, I’m good with buying it. Between 
the two it lasts me several years if not longer.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ATF mixed with acetone. Mix a small amount just prior to use. The
> acetone draws into the tiniest crevices and pulls the ATF with it. I
> learned about it on this list, or maybe the old mbz.org list.
> 
> Allan
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Kroil. I swear by that stuff. I’ve yet to encounter a fastener it hasn’t 
>> been able to free up.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Fluid film.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
 cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that 
 I really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could 
 use a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools 
 there. So I found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that 
 was on sale for around $200 down from $250.
 
 So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools 
 I have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so 
 stuff isn’t sliding all over the place.
 
 I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m 
 cheap in this regard so I start doing some research.
 
 I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
 Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
 next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
 carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom 
 fit drawer liners.
 
 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
 
 This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
 bought a tool box in over 40 years…
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

ATF mixed with acetone. Mix a small amount just prior to use. The
acetone draws into the tiniest crevices and pulls the ATF with it. I
learned about it on this list, or maybe the old mbz.org list.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Kroil. I swear by that stuff. I’ve yet to encounter a fastener it hasn’t been 
> able to free up.
>
> -D
>
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> Fluid film.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
>>> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
>>> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use 
>>> a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So 
>>> I found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale 
>>> for around $200 down from $250.
>>> 
>>> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
>>> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so 
>>> stuff isn’t sliding all over the place.
>>> 
>>> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m 
>>> cheap in this regard so I start doing some research.
>>> 
>>> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
>>> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
>>> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
>>> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
>>> drawer liners.
>>> 
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>>> 
>>> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
>>> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
>>> 
>>> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

It was crying out for a 606. Mechanical diesel, 722.3, etc. The thinking
man's option would have been a 648/722.6. For gas, the drivetrain from a
560 drops right in.

I will say there appears to have been a lot of nice workmanship and money
put into that car. The basic ideas were just kind of random, like that
deboss garage dude converting a 124 wagon to LS, creating a ton of crappy
work for no apparent reason instead of dropping a 606 in. I mean, at least
use an m119 if you want a v8 in a 124; bolt a bunch of factory parts up and
go, rather than reinventing every system on the car e.g. A/C, steering
rack, cover strut reinforcement, motor and tranny mounts, fuel tank, blah
blah yada yada.

Nicer than most similar efforts.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 2:48 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I just made that suggestion.
>
> -D “flagged as inappropriate"
>
>
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 11/23/20 11:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-9/?fbclid=IwAR3tIfXhjuTMFcb-DRhBXR1QkAsv_YxPj7ZCwCFJO5N6-JUMM_sx-wkzmwA
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

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Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Worst case scenario there’s a Harbor Fright nearby, so if I had to
> make do with something in the way of hand tools I could snag it there.

I've been pretty happy with the hand tools from Harbor Freight. Really
seem just as good as Craftsman, at least present-day Craftsman.

I've never sprung for Snap-on or Hazet or anything like that, so don't
know how they compare to those.

I bought my tool box there too. It's OK. It came with drawer liners, but
the drawer slides are not the best. I'm not a pro and I don't move it
around much, so it's fine for my purposes.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Redneck engineering advice

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

After oldest boy snagged it on a tree backing out of the driveway, I
repaired the badly cracked plastic housing of the door mirror on the
Focus using epoxy and aluminum strips cut from a beer can. Holding so
far. Easier when you don't care what it looks like.

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> Good idea too.  Being a belt and suspenders kind of guy I think the idea 
> of some fiberglass then a piece of aluminum over that, then maybe a 
> coupla little screws on either side once it cures. Thanks Curley and Max!
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/23/20 3:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> I like the first idea.  Maybe sand the white plastic to roughen it, then a 
>> few layers of fiberglass wrapping around the perimeter?  After the 
>> fiberglass sets, put a couple screws through it into the plastic, one on 
>> each side of the crack.
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>>
>>
>> Nov 23, 2020 3:23:55 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> :
>>
>>> My weedwhacker housing cracked at this screw attaching point and caused all 
>>> kinds of mayhem necessitating replacement of two castings (bought used off 
>>> eBay). It stripped out the part of the housing in there that the screw 
>>> presses on. It’s a totally stupid design with that much pressure on these 
>>> little bits of plastic.
>>>
>>> I got it all back together but need to get this sorted before I use it.  
>>> I’m thinking some JBweld plastic epoxy with something shrouding the curved 
>>> plastic housing bit to hold it and make it stronger and somehow filling 
>>> inside where the screw goes, or just getting a longer screw and washer to 
>>> fit over the top to hold the strengthened bit of the plastic tight.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good point.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 23/11/2020 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I don’t think it’s bad considering the coverage you get for $5. I’ve used it 
>> a couple of times since they started charging and was happy with the results.
>> 
>> I think the change had to put a significant dent in the number of listings 
>> they had. Within a day or two of them enacting the change the number of 
>> listings fell off precipitously.
>> 
>> Definitely put a damper on the bottom feeder stuff. I think a lot of that 
>> moved to FB.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
> A lot of bottom feeders don't have a credit card so cannot readily pay online.
> 
> RB
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I think there might have been some confusion with the posts as they crossed, 
too.

Yes, I use Kroil as a penetrating lubricant. Great stuff. The Fluid Film I used 
to prevent corrosion on the underside of the E320 4Matic. The W210s seem to 
immediately rust out upon crossing the Mason-Dixon Line, so I figured it might 
defer the inevitable for a few months.

Plus the livestock likes the smell…

-D



> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:18 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> It wouldn't be the first time...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, November 23, 2020, 6:12:12 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I know the difference. I think you repeated yourself…
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond  > > wrote:
> > 
> > They're not for the same purpose. Kroil is a penetrant, its supposed to 
> > creep. Kroil is a protectant, its supposed to stay put.
> > 
> > -Curt
> > 
> > On Monday, November 23, 2020, 5:56:39 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Kroil. I swear by that stuff. I’ve yet to encounter a fastener it hasn’t 
> > been able to free up.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > > On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  > >   > > >> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Fluid film.
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > >> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> > >> >> wrote:
> 
> > >> 
> > >> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
> > >> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me 
> > >> that I really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I 
> > >> could use a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain 
> > >> tools there. So I found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper 
> > >> cabinet that was on sale for around $200 down from $250.
> > >> 
> > >> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate 
> > >> tools I have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer 
> > >> liners so stuff isn’t sliding all over the place.
> > >> 
> > >> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m 
> > >> cheap in this regard so I start doing some research.
> > >> 
> > >> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
> > >> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered 
> > >> the next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with 
> > >> my carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, 
> > >> custom fit drawer liners.
> > >> 
> > >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> > >>   
> > >>  > >>  
> > >> >
> > >> 
> > >> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
> > >> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
> > >> 
> > >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 23/11/2020 5:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I don’t think it’s bad considering the coverage you get for $5. I’ve used it a 
couple of times since they started charging and was happy with the results.

I think the change had to put a significant dent in the number of listings they 
had. Within a day or two of them enacting the change the number of listings 
fell off precipitously.

Definitely put a damper on the bottom feeder stuff. I think a lot of that moved 
to FB.

-D


A lot of bottom feeders don't have a credit card so cannot readily pay 
online.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It wouldn't be the first time...
-Curt

On Monday, November 23, 2020, 6:12:12 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I know the difference. I think you repeated yourself…

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> They're not for the same purpose. Kroil is a penetrant, its supposed to 
> creep. Kroil is a protectant, its supposed to stay put.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, November 23, 2020, 5:56:39 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kroil. I swear by that stuff. I’ve yet to encounter a fastener it hasn’t been 
> able to free up.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Fluid film.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
> >> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that 
> >> I really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could 
> >> use a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools 
> >> there. So I found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that 
> >> was on sale for around $200 down from $250.
> >> 
> >> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools 
> >> I have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so 
> >> stuff isn’t sliding all over the place.
> >> 
> >> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m 
> >> cheap in this regard so I start doing some research.
> >> 
> >> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
> >> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
> >> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
> >> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom 
> >> fit drawer liners.
> >> 
> >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> >>  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
> >> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
> >> 
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Oooh! The last of the big spenders!

RB


On 23/11/2020 5:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

That wouldn't deter me at all.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:10 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Per listing, paid up front when you list. Listing is good for 30 days.

-D


On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Is the fee $5 per listing or a percentage of the take?




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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t think it’s bad considering the coverage you get for $5. I’ve used it a 
couple of times since they started charging and was happy with the results.

I think the change had to put a significant dent in the number of listings they 
had. Within a day or two of them enacting the change the number of listings 
fell off precipitously.

Definitely put a damper on the bottom feeder stuff. I think a lot of that moved 
to FB.

-D



> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> That wouldn't deter me at all.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:10 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Per listing, paid up front when you list. Listing is good for 30 days.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Is the fee $5 per listing or a percentage of the take?
> > 
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:28 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> > 
> >> The Bayou of Fleas has financial stake in CL.  That should say it all
> >> 
> >> Clay
> >> 
> >> 
> >> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> >> 
> >>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  >>> >
> >> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
> >>> coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
> >>> nothing else.
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
> >>> 
> > I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
> > thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car
> >> every
> > few days so it stays on top.
>  
>  It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
>  
>  -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That wouldn't deter me at all.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 6:10 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Per listing, paid up front when you list. Listing is good for 30 days.
>
> -D
>
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Is the fee $5 per listing or a percentage of the take?
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:28 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The Bayou of Fleas has financial stake in CL.  That should say it all
> >>
> >> Clay
> >>
> >>
> >> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
> >>
> >>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
> >>> coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
> >>> nothing else.
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> > I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
> > thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car
> >> every
> > few days so it stays on top.
> 
>  It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
> 
>  -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I know the difference. I think you repeated yourself…

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> They're not for the same purpose. Kroil is a penetrant, its supposed to 
> creep. Kroil is a protectant, its supposed to stay put.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, November 23, 2020, 5:56:39 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Kroil. I swear by that stuff. I’ve yet to encounter a fastener it hasn’t been 
> able to free up.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  > > wrote:
> > 
> > Fluid film.
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> >> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
> >> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that 
> >> I really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could 
> >> use a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools 
> >> there. So I found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that 
> >> was on sale for around $200 down from $250.
> >> 
> >> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools 
> >> I have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so 
> >> stuff isn’t sliding all over the place.
> >> 
> >> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m 
> >> cheap in this regard so I start doing some research.
> >> 
> >> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
> >> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
> >> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
> >> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom 
> >> fit drawer liners.
> >> 
> >> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> >>  
> >> 
> >> 
> >> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
> >> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 They're not for the same purpose. Kroil is a penetrant, its supposed to creep. 
Kroil is a protectant, its supposed to stay put.
-Curt

On Monday, November 23, 2020, 5:56:39 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Kroil. I swear by that stuff. I’ve yet to encounter a fastener it hasn’t been 
able to free up.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Fluid film.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
>> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
>> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use 
>> a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I 
>> found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for 
>> around $200 down from $250.
>> 
>> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
>> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
>> isn’t sliding all over the place.
>> 
>> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap 
>> in this regard so I start doing some research.
>> 
>> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
>> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
>> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
>> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
>> drawer liners.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
>> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Per listing, paid up front when you list. Listing is good for 30 days.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is the fee $5 per listing or a percentage of the take?
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:28 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The Bayou of Fleas has financial stake in CL.  That should say it all
>> 
>> Clay
>> 
>> 
>> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>> 
>>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
>>> coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
>>> nothing else.
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
> I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
> thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car
>> every
> few days so it stays on top.
 
 It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
 
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>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>>> Von Braun
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>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is the fee $5 per listing or a percentage of the take?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 5:28 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The Bayou of Fleas has financial stake in CL.  That should say it all
>
> Clay
>
>
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>
> > On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
> > coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
> > nothing else.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
> >>> thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car
> every
> >>> few days so it stays on top.
> >>
> >> It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
> >>
> >> -- Jim
> >>
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> >
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> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I fogged all of the chassis cavities with Fluid Film on the E320 4Matic while I 
was working on it in preparation for it’s move to the Great White North. I had 
to buy a bunch of it when I bought it to do the W111 so I had a couple of cans 
left over. Figured it couldn’t hurt, and I won’t use the stuff in Florida.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've been using fluid film on ratcheting tie downs. Those ratchets are made 
> super cheap and always stick until I started shooting them with fluid film. 
> The stuff stays put so it doesn't need to be re-applied all the time.
> I like it for door hinges on cars too, same reason.
> Things do smell like sheep for a day or two...
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
>On Monday, November 23, 2020, 5:55:24 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> Fluid film.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
>> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
>> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use 
>> a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I 
>> found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for 
>> around $200 down from $250.
>> 
>> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
>> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
>> isn’t sliding all over the place.
>> 
>> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap 
>> in this regard so I start doing some research.
>> 
>> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
>> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
>> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
>> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
>> drawer liners.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
>> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotcha.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's why I said look a the package Gear Wrench put it in.
> There should be warranty info on the back.
> 
> On 2020-11-23 17:47, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> That’s just what the Advance web page for the product says under
>> “Warranty”. Look at it.
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've been using fluid film on ratcheting tie downs. Those ratchets are made 
super cheap and always stick until I started shooting them with fluid film. The 
stuff stays put so it doesn't need to be re-applied all the time.
I like it for door hinges on cars too, same reason.
Things do smell like sheep for a day or two...
-Curt



On Monday, November 23, 2020, 5:55:24 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Fluid film.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use a 
> tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I 
> found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for 
> around $200 down from $250.
> 
> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
> isn’t sliding all over the place.
> 
> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap 
> in this regard so I start doing some research.
> 
> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
> drawer liners.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That's why I said look a the package Gear Wrench put it in.
There should be warranty info on the back.

On 2020-11-23 17:47, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s just what the Advance web page for the product says under
“Warranty”. Look at it.


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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Kroil. I swear by that stuff. I’ve yet to encounter a fastener it hasn’t been 
able to free up.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:54 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Fluid film.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
>> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
>> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use 
>> a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I 
>> found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for 
>> around $200 down from $250.
>> 
>> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
>> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
>> isn’t sliding all over the place.
>> 
>> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap 
>> in this regard so I start doing some research.
>> 
>> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
>> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
>> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
>> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
>> drawer liners.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
>> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Oooh, it even includes 16mm which is often left out and IIRC is required when 
swapping an alternator on a 190D 2.2l.Or was it 15mm? I forget, either way its 
got both.
-Curt

On Monday, November 23, 2020, 4:49:36 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 If you need a fresh set of combination wrenches, look for a Black Friday 
deal on these, or stack a 30% coupon on top of the Advance Auto sale 
price...

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/gear-wrench-20-piece-ratchet-wrench-set-8920a/10703429-P

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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Fluid film.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use a 
> tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I 
> found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for 
> around $200 down from $250.
> 
> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
> isn’t sliding all over the place.
> 
> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap 
> in this regard so I start doing some research.
> 
> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
> drawer liners.
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
> 
> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I bought a Harbor Freight extendo-handle 1/2 drive ratchet last summer for use 
at camp and the dang thing is really good. I used it again last week when I was 
up there. Its got relatively fine teeth, ratchets good and the extendo-handle 
is actually helpful when you need to really lean on it. I got it for pulling 
the seat off the old Super M. The bolts on that were not wanting to come out 
but with the handle extended they moved right along.
This thing: 
https://www.harborfreight.com/hand-tools/sockets-ratchets/12-in-drive-extendable-ratchet-62311.htmlFor
 $20 its as good as any Craftsman ratchet I've ever had. I used to avoid HF 
tools with moving parts but dang...

-Curt

On Monday, November 23, 2020, 4:11:47 PM EST, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have a lot of duplicates of things from accretion over the years. For 
example, I have a complete Craftsman screwdriver set that was always in a wall 
cabinet I had for my woodworking setup when I had one. Tools were segregated 
between garage and wood shop so as not to commingle with things that could be 
greasy or have sawdust in them. All of those duplicates are going north.

I don’t, however, have doubles of things like ratchets and socket sets. Some 
duplicates, but not complete sets. I’ll buy new for those and keep the dupes in 
Florida. I had a pretty good set of standard combination wrenches, but not 
metrics, so those will get bought as new up north, too.

All of my MB specific stuff will stay in Florida. I’m not doing any substantive 
work on cars in Indiana, at least not intentionally. Worst case scenario 
there’s a Harbor Fright nearby, so if I had to make do with something in the 
way of hand tools I could snag it there.

Xmas ask is more Lowe’s gift cards so I can get a rolling box to put the tool 
box on…

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I hope you used the opportunity to buy some new tools too, you'll need a set 
> at the new manse.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/23/20 3:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
>> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
>> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use 
>> a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I 
>> found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for 
>> around $200 down from $250.
>> 
>> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
>> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
>> isn’t sliding all over the place.
>> 
>> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap 
>> in this regard so I start doing some research.
>> 
>> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
>> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
>> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
>> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
>> drawer liners.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
>> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just made that suggestion.

-D “flagged as inappropriate"


> On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/23/20 11:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-9/?fbclid=IwAR3tIfXhjuTMFcb-DRhBXR1QkAsv_YxPj7ZCwCFJO5N6-JUMM_sx-wkzmwA
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s just what the Advance web page for the product says under “Warranty”. 
Look at it.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-11-23 17:14, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> I don’t get a feeling of confidence when I see “30 day replacement if
>> defective” for the warranty.
> 
> Read the package, might be an error.
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Oops, fresh out of 30s, but here's a 25:
https://www.rakuten.com/advanceautoparts.com

The coupons don't work for oils, 15 years ago they worked on ATF and 
Brake Fluid, but I believe those are both blocked now. And the $40 off 
on $100 purchase (which I haven't seen in a long time) quit working on 
trailer hitches about 6 years ago. They want to save the discounts for 
the parts that cost $120 at Advance or $80 at Rock.
I was pricing Walker exhaust parts for the Saturn (still the only 
vehicle I have real winter tires for) and Advance minus 25% was 
something like a dollar more than Rock plus shipping for a resonator, 
which, amazingly enough, was supposed to be in stock at Advance.



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send me wunnathem 30%ers.  I just got a 25%, will have to see if it
applies to fluids as I am going to do some tranny, diff, and TC
changes over the


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

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The Bayou of Fleas has financial stake in CL.  That should say it all

Clay


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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
> coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
> nothing else.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> 
>>> I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
>>> thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car every
>>> few days so it stays on top.
>> 
>> It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

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The last two cars I put on CL required payment of their fee.  Since the 
vehicles were in less than showroom condition, I chose to forgo listing as 
drivers and sold them as parts cars.  There were bins of parts that did 
accompany them, so … parts  car

Clay


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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.
> 
> I thought that was just for dealers? Is it also true for private sellers 
> now?
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

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Mobil products are exempt from coupons at Advance. You can use your “points” or 
whatever they are, but no coupons.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> send me wunnathem 30%ers.  I just got a 25%, will have to see if it applies 
> to fluids as I am going to do some tranny, diff, and TC changes over the hol
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/23/20 4:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> If you need a fresh set of combination wrenches, look for a Black Friday 
>> deal on these, or stack a 30% coupon on top of the Advance Auto sale price...
>> 
>> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/gear-wrench-20-piece-ratchet-wrench-set-8920a/10703429-P
>>  
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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids Vax

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Quantas requires certified proof of vaccine before you can fly.  CCP wants you 
to get a verification QR code stamp so they are able to track your WRD travel.  
They are trying to peddle that to the rest of the world.  As a means to 
streamline travel.

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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> Correct.  I guess at some point it will be noted in a database somewhere but 
> will not be "personalized" unless a doc needs to know for some medical reason 
> then they can find out.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

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send me wunnathem 30%ers.  I just got a 25%, will have to see if it 
applies to fluids as I am going to do some tranny, diff, and TC changes 
over the hol


--FT

On 11/23/20 4:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
If you need a fresh set of combination wrenches, look for a Black 
Friday deal on these, or stack a 30% coupon on top of the Advance Auto 
sale price...


https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/gear-wrench-20-piece-ratchet-wrench-set-8920a/10703429-P 



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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t get a feeling of confidence when I see “30 day replacement if 
defective” for the warranty.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 4:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> If you need a fresh set of combination wrenches, look for a Black Friday deal 
> on these, or stack a 30% coupon on top of the Advance Auto sale price...
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If you need a fresh set of combination wrenches, look for a Black Friday 
deal on these, or stack a 30% coupon on top of the Advance Auto sale 
price...


https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/gear-wrench-20-piece-ratchet-wrench-set-8920a/10703429-P

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Re: [MBZ] OT Redneck engineering advice

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's an idea but there is grease and oil in there, I cleaned it up 
with degreaser but I don't think that would get down in there to clean 
it up, and it would probably not stick together with that in between the 
2 pieces


--R

On 11/23/20 4:36 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Can you do a little plastic welding and melt it together a bit before 
you add the epoxy and cloth and aluminum and ...?


RB

On 23/11/2020 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
My weedwhacker housing cracked at this screw attaching point and 
caused all kinds of mayhem necessitating replacement of two castings 
(bought used off eBay). It stripped out the part of the housing in 
there that the screw presses on. It’s a totally stupid design with 
that much pressure on these little bits of plastic.


I got it all back together but need to get this sorted before I use 
it.  I’m thinking some JBweld plastic epoxy with something shrouding 
the curved plastic housing bit to hold it and make it stronger and 
somehow filling inside where the screw goes, or just getting a longer 
screw and washer to fit over the top to hold the strengthened bit of 
the plastic tight.


Any thoughts?




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Re: [MBZ] OT Redneck engineering advice

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Can you do a little plastic welding and melt it together a bit before 
you add the epoxy and cloth and aluminum and ...?


RB

On 23/11/2020 2:23 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

My weedwhacker housing cracked at this screw attaching point and caused all 
kinds of mayhem necessitating replacement of two castings (bought used off 
eBay). It stripped out the part of the housing in there that the screw presses 
on. It’s a totally stupid design with that much pressure on these little bits 
of plastic.

I got it all back together but need to get this sorted before I use it.  I’m 
thinking some JBweld plastic epoxy with something shrouding the curved plastic 
housing bit to hold it and make it stronger and somehow filling inside where 
the screw goes, or just getting a longer screw and washer to fit over the top 
to hold the strengthened bit of the plastic tight.

Any thoughts?




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Re: [MBZ] Max needs new a 210 White Whale

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I watched this vid yesterday of a guy with an ML that had limp mode.  He 
dug into it and found the cable with all the wires to the trans to be 
completely worn down, shorting, not even working. He pulled one from a 
junker and spliced it back in, hoping that would work.  The vid of his 
getting the codes cleared was coming so no resolution there yet.  Which 
reminds me I need to dig into the ML320 and check that aspect, or swap a 
TCM into it and see if it will work.


--FT

On 11/23/20 3:57 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Cool, AMG wagon.  Does sound like an electrical issue like a bad connection or 
bad wiring harness.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/198673485101632/?ref=search_code=undefined

1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D
$1,500
Vehicles 
Listed 22 hours ago in Marietta, GA 



     About This Vehicle…

Driven 192,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: White · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline
18.0 MPG city · 25.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined


     Seller's description…

Runs and drives,but has a shifting issue. Would make a good parts car or can 
fix issue , and it would be a good car. The transmission is a rebuilt amg unit 
but, we believe it's an issue with the transmission control unit or the ecu 
causing it to go into limp mode every so often causing it not to shift! Price 
is negotiable. Car has been in 2 minor rear end accidents. It is a rear wheel 
drive version not the 4matic! Will need to arrange a time to look at vechicle. 
IF ITS STILL UP ITS STILL AVAILABLE! NO TIME WASTERS PLEASE!

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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

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I have a lot of duplicates of things from accretion over the years. For 
example, I have a complete Craftsman screwdriver set that was always in a wall 
cabinet I had for my woodworking setup when I had one. Tools were segregated 
between garage and wood shop so as not to commingle with things that could be 
greasy or have sawdust in them. All of those duplicates are going north.

I don’t, however, have doubles of things like ratchets and socket sets. Some 
duplicates, but not complete sets. I’ll buy new for those and keep the dupes in 
Florida. I had a pretty good set of standard combination wrenches, but not 
metrics, so those will get bought as new up north, too.

All of my MB specific stuff will stay in Florida. I’m not doing any substantive 
work on cars in Indiana, at least not intentionally. Worst case scenario 
there’s a Harbor Fright nearby, so if I had to make do with something in the 
way of hand tools I could snag it there.

Xmas ask is more Lowe’s gift cards so I can get a rolling box to put the tool 
box on…

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 3:59 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> I hope you used the opportunity to buy some new tools too, you'll need a set 
> at the new manse.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/23/20 3:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift 
>> cards. So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I 
>> really need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use 
>> a tool box for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I 
>> found a really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for 
>> around $200 down from $250.
>> 
>> So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
>> have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
>> isn’t sliding all over the place.
>> 
>> I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap 
>> in this regard so I start doing some research.
>> 
>> I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the 
>> Island of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the 
>> next day. I spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my 
>> carpenter’s square and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit 
>> drawer liners.
>> 
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>> 
>> This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t 
>> bought a tool box in over 40 years…
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Crash Rains Flaming Batteries into Nearby Homes

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

It is taking off. Accepted a patient from El Centro on Sat; they are
swamped and transferring overflow patients to other area hospitals. ER doc
there said it is just like the Spring wave all over again.

We were down to under 30 in house before this wave started. Today we are at
70 total. I admitted a few over the weekend.

No travel for the holidays; parents hunkering down in AZ, us here. Local
family invited us, but h@#$ no. I got a minor cold somehow recently but
tested negative. Nanny's 17yo son got covid so she is out for a couple
weeks. Kid's coach also got it, so that is two exposures pretty close to
home recently. I worry more about it in the community than I do at work. At
least at work we know who has it and who doesn't. Probably equal risk at
work is catching it from other healthcare providers in breakrooms at lunch.
There have been some hospital outbreaks like that. For the active covid
patients everyone tries to limit interactions and take full precautions
with.

Steroids help a bit; the people I see are the 30-60 year olds who need
facemask O2 but are not sick enough to need the ICU. If they worsen on high
flow 02 despite proning etc or if they are tenuous with risk factors we
send them to ICU for positive pressure ventilation. So far we have enough
beds for that.

We are not overwhelmed but the way cases are spiking we are likely set to
hit new records. Whether we will need to cancel elective surgeries again
depends on what the census does. We have more contingency plans in place
now for flipping over to high volumes of covid patients, so that part will
be less stressful than the Spring.

Basically this disease is going to keep kicking our butts until we get
serious about controlling it. Vaccine will help but will take time. Noem in
my home state of South Dakota seems to have hitched her wagon to the wrong
star, which is too bad. My sister has it up there right now and her husband
just got it from her. Some governors just have to pee on the fence for
themselves I guess. Noem is from Watertown, which is close to where my Dad
is from. I thought she was OK but this is what you get when you manage
communicable disease as a political problem instead of a public health
problem. My cousin says a lot of his employees won't go to stores that
require masks, even to pick up parts or whatever for him. It would be funny
if so many people weren't dying. Lots of older folks in those smaller towns
are getting wiped out.



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> How are you doing with the increased Covid, Karl?
> Gerry
>
> On Sun, 22 Nov 2020 13:06:35 -0800
> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes  wrote:
>
> > Incredible. Guy hits and shears off a telephone pole and 2 trees at
> 100mph,
> > then 'runs' away from the scene and is later apprehended and hospitalized
> > with minor injuries. Forget the electric bit - it has to be by far the
> > safest car on the planet.
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Re: [MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I hope you used the opportunity to buy some new tools too, you'll need a 
set at the new manse.


--FT

On 11/23/20 3:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift cards. 
So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I really 
need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use a tool box 
for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I found a 
really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for around 
$200 down from $250.

So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
isn’t sliding all over the place.

I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap in 
this regard so I start doing some research.

I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the Island 
of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the next day. I 
spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my carpenter’s square 
and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit drawer liners.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1

This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t bought 
a tool box in over 40 years…

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Re: [MBZ] Max needs new a 210 White Whale

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Cool, AMG wagon.  Does sound like an electrical issue like a bad connection or 
bad wiring harness. 

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Nov 23, 2020 10:25:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/198673485101632/?ref=search_code=undefined
> 
> 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Wagon 4D
> $1,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 22 hours ago in Marietta, GA 
> 
> 
> 
>     About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 192,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: White · Interior color: Black
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 18.0 MPG city · 25.0 MPG highway · 21.0 MPG combined
> 
> 
>     Seller's description…
> 
> Runs and drives,but has a shifting issue. Would make a good parts car or can 
> fix issue , and it would be a good car. The transmission is a rebuilt amg 
> unit but, we believe it's an issue with the transmission control unit or the 
> ecu causing it to go into limp mode every so often causing it not to shift! 
> Price is negotiable. Car has been in 2 minor rear end accidents. It is a rear 
> wheel drive version not the 4matic! Will need to arrange a time to look at 
> vechicle. IF ITS STILL UP ITS STILL AVAILABLE! NO TIME WASTERS PLEASE!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Redneck engineering advice

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Good idea too.  Being a belt and suspenders kind of guy I think the idea 
of some fiberglass then a piece of aluminum over that, then maybe a 
coupla little screws on either side once it cures. Thanks Curley and Max!


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On 11/23/20 3:51 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I like the first idea.  Maybe sand the white plastic to roughen it, then a few 
layers of fiberglass wrapping around the perimeter?  After the fiberglass sets, 
put a couple screws through it into the plastic, one on each side of the crack.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Nov 23, 2020 3:23:55 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :


My weedwhacker housing cracked at this screw attaching point and caused all 
kinds of mayhem necessitating replacement of two castings (bought used off 
eBay). It stripped out the part of the housing in there that the screw presses 
on. It’s a totally stupid design with that much pressure on these little bits 
of plastic.

I got it all back together but need to get this sorted before I use it.  I’m 
thinking some JBweld plastic epoxy with something shrouding the curved plastic 
housing bit to hold it and make it stronger and somehow filling inside where 
the screw goes, or just getting a longer screw and washer to fit over the top 
to hold the strengthened bit of the plastic tight.

Any thoughts?


--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT Redneck engineering advice

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I like the first idea.  Maybe sand the white plastic to roughen it, then a few 
layers of fiberglass wrapping around the perimeter?  After the fiberglass sets, 
put a couple screws through it into the plastic, one on each side of the crack.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Nov 23, 2020 3:23:55 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes :

> My weedwhacker housing cracked at this screw attaching point and caused all 
> kinds of mayhem necessitating replacement of two castings (bought used off 
> eBay). It stripped out the part of the housing in there that the screw 
> presses on. It’s a totally stupid design with that much pressure on these 
> little bits of plastic.
> 
> I got it all back together but need to get this sorted before I use it.  I’m 
> thinking some JBweld plastic epoxy with something shrouding the curved 
> plastic housing bit to hold it and make it stronger and somehow filling 
> inside where the screw goes, or just getting a longer screw and washer to fit 
> over the top to hold the strengthened bit of the plastic tight.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> 
> --FT
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[MBZ] Low Cost Drawer Liner

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

For my birthday everyone in the family piled on and gave me Lowe’s gift cards. 
So I’m trying to figure out what I can buy from Lowe’s for me that I really 
need. It occurs to me as I wander through the store that I could use a tool box 
for the new house, as I have nothing to contain tools there. So I found a 
really nice five drawer Craftsman upper cabinet that was on sale for around 
$200 down from $250.

So I get this tool box home and am thinking about all the duplicate tools I 
have that I can put it in. Then I realize I need some drawer liners so stuff 
isn’t sliding all over the place.

I know I can get precut drawer liners for big $$$ if I wanted, but I’m cheap in 
this regard so I start doing some research.

I found some Duck brand shelf liner in a 20’ x 6’ roll for $9.00 on the Island 
of Large Wimmen. Bought two rolls for a total of $18, delivered the next day. I 
spent about a half an hour in the garage last night with my carpenter’s square 
and a fresh carpet knife and now I have nice, custom fit drawer liners.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010DHSV6O/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8=1

This tool box is so nice and new I’m almost afraid to use it. I haven’t bought 
a tool box in over 40 years…

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[MBZ] OT Redneck engineering advice

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

My weedwhacker housing cracked at this screw attaching point and caused all 
kinds of mayhem necessitating replacement of two castings (bought used off 
eBay). It stripped out the part of the housing in there that the screw presses 
on. It’s a totally stupid design with that much pressure on these little bits 
of plastic. 

I got it all back together but need to get this sorted before I use it.  I’m 
thinking some JBweld plastic epoxy with something shrouding the curved plastic 
housing bit to hold it and make it stronger and somehow filling inside where 
the screw goes, or just getting a longer screw and washer to fit over the top 
to hold the strengthened bit of the plastic tight. 

Any thoughts?



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Re: [MBZ] W114 parts car 280C

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

You know when the tires are sunk 8" into the ground and are off the
wheels that it's been sitting a while.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> BZZZT
>
> Too much rust. The wheels are awful, too.
>
> Not far from my other house, though. Gotta wait for the garage floor to be 
> epoxied before I can put any cars in it, though.
>
> -D
>
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Great project car for the Danster to tidy up and flip.
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks pretty much all there...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 

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Re: [MBZ] W114 parts car 280C

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

BZZZT

Too much rust. The wheels are awful, too.

Not far from my other house, though. Gotta wait for the garage floor to be 
epoxied before I can put any cars in it, though.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Great project car for the Danster to tidy up and flip.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Looks pretty much all there...
>> 
>> 
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html
>> 
>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W114 parts car 280C

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Great project car for the Danster to tidy up and flip.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Looks pretty much all there...
>
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W123 aux fuel tank

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Where is the instruction manual?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:00 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>
> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/pts/d/nashville-auxiliary-fuel-tank-for-123/7219482807.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Crash Rains Flaming Batteries into Nearby Homes

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BMW: It Give You Wings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGhtJnK9ZWA

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Craigslist always made their money, tons of it, off real estate ads in certain 
markets. When ebay bought them they got greedy and now charge or many different 
types of ads. 

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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 12:10 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
> coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
> nothing else.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
>>> thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car every
>>> few days so it stays on top.
>> 
>> It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

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On 2020-11-23 11:25, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-9



A blown 350 SBC in front of a THM350?
I guess you'd call that 'period correct' for a street/strip car.
Anybody wanting to 'do it right' today would have used a LS motor and 
6sp, or MBZ motor and 7sp.


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Jim Cathey  writes:

> It was not done for us, it was a money grab.

That's a tech sector modus operandi. Build something, get a lot of
people using it for free, then start charging.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[OK Don via Mercedes]

How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
nothing else.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
> > thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car every
> > few days so it stays on top.
>
> It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
>
> -- Jim
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Von Braun
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[MBZ] W114 parts car 280C

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks pretty much all there...

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html

Allan

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[MBZ] W123 aux fuel tank

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

https://bloomington.craigslist.org/pts/d/nashville-auxiliary-fuel-tank-for-123/7219482807.html

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
> thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car every
> few days so it stays on top.

It was not done for us, it was a money grab.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Jim Cathey  writes:

> For everybody, I think it's been more than a year now.  That's why all
> the lowball car sales are now found on Facebook.

Had no idea. But also have not sold anything on CL in over a year.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Max needs new a 210 White Whale

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Standard on wagons, optional on sedans except the 500E (W124) and the LWB 
> W126s, if I recall.

560SEL has SLS, all others (300, 350, 420) do not.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car every
few days so it stays on top.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Across the board.
>
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.
>> 
>> I thought that was just for dealers? Is it also true for private sellers 
>> now?
>> 
>> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>> Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.
> I thought that was just for dealers? Is it also true for private sellers now?

For everybody, I think it's been more than a year now.  That's why all the 
lowball
car sales are now found on Facebook.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

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Across the board.

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 12:47 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.
> 
> I thought that was just for dealers? Is it also true for private sellers 
> now?
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

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Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:

> Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.

I thought that was just for dealers? Is it also true for private sellers 
now?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is a bad choice for a first car considering maintenance and insurance

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Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> I have a great niece turning 16 in March.
> Was thinking of selling her dad my 2016 Cruze SS (bought a Camaro SS 
> badge for a joke, but it can do 0-60 in around 6s, more like 7.5-8s in 
> stock tune). Maybe put it stock for her, and retune it when she 
> graduates high school?

Or maybe when she's 25

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

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TriviaSteve needs to stand in the corner of a Chevy dealer customer lounge
for 4 hours.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 12:23 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 11:36:55 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
> >
> > --FT
>
> From the posting:
>
>
> Nov 23 at 9:18 AM
> TriviaSteve (The Seller) 12
>
> And I suppose I should address the inevitable comments about the
> sacrilege committed to this car. I know. In my defense, I have
> restored a number of these cars back to factory and frown on and
> modifications. However, This one came to me with a blown motor, and
> although I did have a spare turbo motor for this, I really wanted
> something that no one else had. Yes, it got way out of hand and yes
> many of the mods are gratuitous. I had seen a few other cars that had
> a small block Chevy transplant and in my opinion none of them had been
> done right. I love these cars, like many others do, but let’s face it,
> they need to make one with some power.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

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On Mon, 23 Nov 2020 11:36:55 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
> 
> --FT

From the posting:


Nov 23 at 9:18 AM
TriviaSteve (The Seller) 12

And I suppose I should address the inevitable comments about the
sacrilege committed to this car. I know. In my defense, I have
restored a number of these cars back to factory and frown on and
modifications. However, This one came to me with a blown motor, and
although I did have a spare turbo motor for this, I really wanted
something that no one else had. Yes, it got way out of hand and yes
many of the mods are gratuitous. I had seen a few other cars that had
a small block Chevy transplant and in my opinion none of them had been
done right. I love these cars, like many others do, but let’s face it,
they need to make one with some power.



Craig

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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

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What sorts of parts?  It's a 380 with a trashed velour interior.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> it's kinda out in the sticks, it's a 5hr drive so not a good one-day
> road trip although I guess it would be doable. Yeah it is tempting.
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/23/20 10:57 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > $200 for a SEC parts car? I can’t believe somebody has not snapped it up
> yet.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Part it out, I need some SEC bits
> >>
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/427139262007782/?ref=product_details_code=undefined
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Skum.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:51 AM Jim Cathey  wrote:

> > Wonder why he was calling it a parts car.
>
> Because Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.
> Bastards.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids Vax

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You can take your certificate of participation to any bar for a free Bud
Light.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:41 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 2020-11-23 10:37, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > I would be more inclined to go out and do things, restaurants and
> > such.  Still masking though, that seems to be the norm, but I would
> > not worry about getting exposed.
>
> That would be why your one Dr friend said it would be cheating.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tesla Crash Rains Flaming Batteries into Nearby Homes

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

If it's not raining flaming batteries, it's getting stolen via software
security flaws.

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-model-x-hack-bluetooth/


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> There is a speed setting in the Tesla called Ludacris. I wonder if that is
> what he was using.
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020, 5:04 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>  At first I was thinking that gasoline cars catch fire too but they don't
>> throw flaming gasoline through windows into your house...
>> -Curt
>>
>> On Sunday, November 22, 2020, 4:34:00 PM EST, Floyd Thursby via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>
>>  I know right?  That was my first thought too.  Usually it's drunks that
>> survive those kinds of crashes because they flop around a lot.
>>
>> But... flaming batteries setting your bed on fire...
>>
>> --FT
>>
>> On 11/22/20 4:06 PM, Karl Wittnebel wrote:
>> > Incredible. Guy hits and shears off a telephone pole and 2 trees at
>> > 100mph, then 'runs' away from the scene and is later apprehended and
>> > hospitalized with minor injuries. Forget the electric bit - it has to
>> > be by far the safest car on the planet.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 22, 2020, 12:25 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >whoa. "impaired by marijuana"
>> >
>> >
>> https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/11/21/tesla-crash-rains-flaming-batteries-into-nearby-homes/
>> >
>> >--
>> >--FT
>> >

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Re: [MBZ] Idled high when parked 2006 Mercedes-Benz R-Class R 350 4MATIC Sport Wagon 4D, $2, 000

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One man's patina is another man's mold.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:33 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Shame it was left to rot, probably some minor sensor or vac line or
> something.  Might be worth looking at for $1k
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3464001853635556/?ref=search_code=undefined
>
> 2006 Mercedes-Benz R-Class R 350 4MATIC Sport Wagon 4D
> $2,000
> Vehicles 
> Listed a day ago in Raleigh, NC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 125,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: White
> Safety rating
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 16.0 MPG city · 21.0 MPG highway · 18.0 MPG combined
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> I am selling this vehicle for a relative. Only issue when this car was
> parked a year ago was it kept idling high, she parked it, went and got
> another car and here it sits. At one time, the window was left down and
> has a water smell inside. With the price she is selling it for, between
> it idling high and getting it professionally cleaned inside, i’m
> thinking an additional $500.00 would be spent after purchasing it to
> have it road ready. Nice personal car or a good flip, she is not in to
> flipping it. Free and clear title. Asking $2000.00 If asking price is
> met, I will deliver it up to 100 miles inclusive to asking price for
> her. Thanks!
> Raleigh, NC
> Location is approximate
>
>
> Seller Information…
>
> Tim Gass
> …
> Joined Facebook in 2010
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 320 Cabriolet 2D,$1,300

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Worth a trip.  Bring a pocketful of cash.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:11 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Getting into my interest-level territory
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/287795769243844/?ref=search_code=undefined
>
> 2003 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class CLK 320 Cabriolet 2D
> $1,300
> Vehicles 
> Listed 4 days ago in Columbia, SC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 22,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Black
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 19.0 MPG city · 27.0 MPG highway · 22.0 MPG combined
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> Runs and drives great has been sitting for awhile I just want it out of
> my driveway I have a clean clear title ready to go message me your phone
> number and I'll give you a phone call
>
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

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Same color as the 300TD wagon I sold to Kyle several years ago.

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:37 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/23/20 11:25 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300td-9/?fbclid=IwAR3tIfXhjuTMFcb-DRhBXR1QkAsv_YxPj7ZCwCFJO5N6-JUMM_sx-wkzmwA
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

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sacrilege.  Needs a stack coming out of the hood though.

--FT

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[MBZ] Somebody destroyed a 123 wagon and now it is on BAT

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Max needs new a 210 White Whale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Standard on wagons, optional on sedans except the 500E (W124) and the LWB 
W126s, if I recall. You have a rare bird there.

-D

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My 1999 4Matic has rear SLS.
> Seems more robust than S123 or W201 SLS
> I think it's standard on wagons, but don't know for sure.
> I'd hope the E320 PS pump would fit on a E300 if you wanted to swap 
> drivetrains.
> 
> On 2020-11-23 10:41, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> It's probably just the cable, connector, or the TCM occasionally
>> acting up, either would be fairly easy to fix.  Conductor plate might
>> even be marginal.  It looks like the rear is blown though, I think
>> these have SLS?  Otherwise looks like a fairly nice car.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 ACC Default Operation

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Vacuum leak/no vacuum 

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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What was the deal when the ACC defaults to defrost for heat? I’ve got 
> someone asking me and I can't recall the details.
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[MBZ] W123 ACC Default Operation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What was the deal when the ACC defaults to defrost for heat? I’ve got someone 
asking me and I can't recall the details.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

it's kinda out in the sticks, it's a 5hr drive so not a good one-day 
road trip although I guess it would be doable. Yeah it is tempting.


--FT

On 11/23/20 10:57 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

$200 for a SEC parts car? I can’t believe somebody has not snapped it up yet.

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Part it out, I need some SEC bits

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/427139262007782/?ref=product_details_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is a bad choice for a first car considering maintenance and insurance

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On 2020-11-23 10:50, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Six second 0-60 is probably not good for a first car either.


I have a great niece turning 16 in March.
Was thinking of selling her dad my 2016 Cruze SS (bought a Camaro SS 
badge for a joke, but it can do 0-60 in around 6s, more like 7.5-8s in 
stock tune). Maybe put it stock for her, and retune it when she 
graduates high school?


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Re: [MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

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$200 for a SEC parts car? I can’t believe somebody has not snapped it up yet. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:45 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Part it out, I need some SEC bits
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/427139262007782/?ref=product_details_code=undefined
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Max needs new a 210 White Whale

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My 1999 4Matic has rear SLS.
Seems more robust than S123 or W201 SLS
I think it's standard on wagons, but don't know for sure.
I'd hope the E320 PS pump would fit on a E300 if you wanted to swap 
drivetrains.


On 2020-11-23 10:41, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

It's probably just the cable, connector, or the TCM occasionally
acting up, either would be fairly easy to fix.  Conductor plate might
even be marginal.  It looks like the rear is blown though, I think
these have SLS?  Otherwise looks like a fairly nice car.


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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

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> Wonder why he was calling it a parts car.

Because Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.
Bastards.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is a bad choice for a first car considering maintenance and insurance

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Six second 0-60 is probably not good for a first car either.


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is a bad choice for a first car considering maintenance and insurance

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Yeah probably paid way too much now looking at more bills to keep it on 
the road.  No problem in SC though we don't care bout no steenkin 
inspections


-_FT

On 11/23/20 10:39 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

$2k sounds a bit high for 'can't be licensed in my state'.

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[MBZ] If this wasn't so far away I'd be all over it -- 380SEC $200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Part it out, I need some SEC bits

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/427139262007782/?ref=product_details_code=undefined

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Re: [MBZ] Max needs new a 210 White Whale

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's probably just the cable, connector, or the TCM occasionally acting 
up, either would be fairly easy to fix.  Conductor plate might even be 
marginal.  It looks like the rear is blown though, I think these have 
SLS?  Otherwise looks like a fairly nice car.


--FT

On 11/23/20 10:33 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

So, fix the limp mode, or swap the $500E300 into it?

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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids Vax

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On 2020-11-23 10:37, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

I would be more inclined to go out and do things, restaurants and
such.  Still masking though, that seems to be the norm, but I would
not worry about getting exposed.


That would be why your one Dr friend said it would be cheating.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes is a bad choice for a first car considering maintenance and insurance

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$2k sounds a bit high for 'can't be licensed in my state'.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids Vax

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Correct.  I guess at some point it will be noted in a database somewhere 
but will not be "personalized" unless a doc needs to know for some 
medical reason then they can find out.


--FT

On 11/23/20 10:33 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

In theory they are unable to tell you, right? Double blind? Neither the
researchers nor the subjects know who is getting the placebo.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:


There is an app for communication, I have to put stuff in a diary and
answer questions.  They will only advise if the nasal swab I took is
positive for covids.  They did take blood for a baseline on the
antibodies and will do that again when I get the second dose in 3 weeks
from now, but they will not tell me if I did get the actual vax or if I
have the anitbodies; hence, I will go get the thrid-party test

--FT

On 11/23/20 10:09 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

But surely they will check back with you periodically.  How frequently?

On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:07 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

 Trial won't tell me so I am going to get an anitbody test at a local
 outfit to see if I have the proteins in my blood that bind the SARS
 spike protein.  So I will cheat...

 --FT

 On 11/23/20 10:03 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 > When will you learn whether you received the real thing or a
 placebo?
 >
 > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 7:45 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 >> wrote:
 >
 >     I think I got the first dose last Monday. Yay me.
 >
 >
 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/astrazeneca-oxford-covid-19-vaccine-up-to-90-effective-in-late-stage-trials-11606116047
 >
 >     --FT

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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids Vax

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On 2020-11-23 10:33, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

In theory they are unable to tell you, right? Double blind? Neither the
researchers nor the subjects know who is getting the placebo.


I don't know if this one needs to be double blind, but it definitely 
should be at least single blind, because they don't want the test 
subjects to say 'I got vaccine, so now it's party time'.


If it's known to the subjects that they probably got the vaccine (2/3 
test, 1/3 control), I can imagine the control subjects taking risks they 
might not have otherwise.


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