Re: [MBZ] name calling...
Aw man you're screwing with my funnin of Gabriel. He's telling us how old he is because he was on the old list. This one's been functioning for what, 6 months, and he says: Actually i've been on this list for a while now. I'm guessing he doesn't know who Kathy Kennel was or any of the real old timers. Or why we split from the MBCA list when the commandos came into power. Do I really have to be nice, or can I just poke sticks at him til he charges the side of the cage again? Ken In a message dated 9/30/2005 4:27:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Well this list is really the latest and newest version of all the old lists. It seemed to start with the MBCA list and the realtime list and has sort of evolved from that to mbz.org and now to this. I would sort of say its really just one list the whole time since its the people that make up the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which old one? MBCA? Kathy? LL? This group of people has been on a number of lists. Ken In a message dated 9/30/2005 8:07:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Actually i've been on this list for a while now...started on the old one...im kind of tired of debating the autobahn against 10 babies, i think i'll stop now. ___
Re: [MBZ] name calling...
That's only for a certain period of time though isn't it? If I'm good for a month can I go back to my grouchy self? How about if I only throw small rocks? Huh Dad? Can I? Ken In a message dated 9/30/2005 5:32:54 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed You have to be nice.
Re: [MBZ] name calling...
Please, don't stop responding. I'm having way to much fun letting you self destruct. You see the majority of this list is middle aged, level headed car guys. Watching you rant and rave about how much you know is entertaining. Are you punishing me by going and getting drunk? Or are you bragging that you can go get drunk? I'm confused. And why would I care about diesel related? My car runs on gasoline. Did you forget that this is a general list not a diesel list? And I have one more question, did you graduate from college? Why don't your sentences make sense? [EMAIL PROTECTED]'tTalkingToMeAnymore.com In a message dated 9/30/2005 9:03:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] name calling... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Little Kenny, Why are you trying to start the flame war again? Are you bored? I really think you enjoyed the flame war...the truth is anyone gives a rats about who was on this list first. Now Im going to go get drunk and I won't be responding to anything you have to say from now on unless it's diesel related...'nuff said P.S. I've like diesels since I was 8 On 9/30/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aw man you're screwing with my funnin of Gabriel. He's telling us how old he is because he was on the old list. This one's been functioning for what, 6 months, and he says: Actually i've been on this list for a while now. I'm guessing he doesn't know who Kathy Kennel was or any of the real old timers. Or why we split from the MBCA list when the commandos came into power. Do I really have to be nice, or can I just poke sticks at him til he charges the side of the cage again?
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 4, Issue 232
Actually it's the families of the dead crispy people in the cars that really care. If you actually had something constructive to say we might listen. But, with your selfish pig headed I need to go first attitude it doesn't work in the US. On the autobahn they also move over to the right so faster cars can pass. Have you seen that in the US? In Germany every car in equipped with a first aid kit. Does that happen in the US? Comparing apples to oranges is stupid. On stretches of the autobahn there are no speed limits, does that mean I can speed here? Pull your head out and look at reality. Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 8:07:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road rules To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Well that doesen't change the fact that it's been proven to work in the autoban; mind you, there are less accidents on the autobahn than the American interstate...it's crybabies like you that cut short any sort of innovation in this country. On 9/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I care about it because those jackasses keep me from getting to my job. When they finally figure out that I'm going to keep my siren and air horn blowing in back of them, then they try feebly to get out of the way by cutting in front of some poor person who is waiting like they should. When I was new on the job I had a Captain who swore that on his last day he was going to drive, and run over the dimwits that did that. Now that I have that position, I'm thinking he was absolutely right. They should get rammed by the rig and left to rot. If you were hanging upside down trapped in your car because some jackass clipped you as he cut in front of you and you're busy bleeding to death waiting for me to get there, I'll bet you'd think different. Not that I have strong opinions on this subject or anything Ken
Re: [MBZ] O/T Road Rules
Anybody want to bet a paycheck that our friend Gabriel is under 25 and still knows everything? Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 8:07:14 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Road Rules To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 reasons 1-3 are pure bullshit and you know not of what you speak...that technique is used on one of the safest highway systems in the world---the autobahn.
Re: [MBZ] Whistle
Tighten the intake boot clamps. It's sucking air through the small leak and whistling. Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 10:41:13 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whistle To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed My 85 123 does the exact same thing. Have not figured it out yet.
[MBZ] Re road rules
What are you doing on the shoulder if you're only going to drive 80? Pick up the pace man, you're holding up traffic.. ;-) ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 1:46:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Being retired and not in a hurry I don't mind driving at 'only' 75 or 80, but at times that will get a lesser car pushed off the road on I95 in Florida.
Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differ.
Oooo, now there's a world traveler for you. We have a little saying at work for the newbies that know it all. When they spout about all they've done we just remind them that we have more time on the shitter than they have on the job. Sooner or later they find out that they don't know all that much. I am curious though, where is Illinions and why did you go there? By going places each quarter I presume you're a college boy, did they teach spellin' there? Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 4:26:36 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differ. (Was e-lane, was road To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Oh im surry Curt, did i hurt your feelings by calling you a moron? As far as never leaving LA, what do you know...I've driven to Illinions twice, i frequently drive to San Felipe, MX where there is a 100+ mile strech without *anything *four three years I drove san fran to LA at least once a quarter...Grand Canyon six times, Las Vegas...countless times, Orgeon once...if my email come off as unplesant...why do you read them? =P
Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differThe moron begs to differ
Not molestation, someone passed me driving on the shoulder and my road rage got out of control. Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differ. To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Geez Ken, you are uptight today...whats wrong, did somone try to molest you?
Re: [MBZ] The moron begs to differ
I stand corrected. 27 and still knows everything. ;-) Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Road Rules To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 ehhhim 27 On 9/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody want to bet a paycheck that our friend Gabriel is under 25 and still knows everything? Ken
Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA
12 steps and one day at a time. Recovery from Californiaism takes time? Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 5:45:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Autobahn vs. USA To: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In the interest of full disclosure, I have to admit that I was born and raised in LA. Spending the last 40+ years in the Midwest has helped my return to normalcy. I'm still not there yet. -Dave Walton
Re: [MBZ] Road rules
I shouldn't be concerned about getting to the accident in a timely manner? Why do they give me the lights and sirens then? Is everybody wrong when they say seconds count in medical emergencies? Shoot, that'd be cool if I could take my time going to your house fire. I'll be there in a little bit, I'm just going to finish dinner because there is no hurry for Andrew. Ken In a message dated 9/28/2005 11:27:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road rules To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Sounds like you need a TIME OUT before you get into serious trouble! Have you thought about taking an aggressive driving course (to cure, not to teach it)?
Re: [MBZ] Road rules
That's an almost daily occurance. Someone in front is paying attention and the dimbulb behind him wonders why he's pulling over so he swings out to pass. I've seen that hundreds of times. I had a Semi with a flatbed trailer do that exact thing yesterday and then swing out into the oncoming lane to make his turn while we're stopping behind him with lights sirens and air horn blaring. When we got past, do you know what he was doing? Talking on his cell phone! Ken In a message dated 9/29/2005 6:24:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Road rules To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dan Weeks wrote: I can not BELIEVE the folks who don't IMMEDIATELY hit the flashers, pull off the road and stop when they hear or see an emergency vehicle on a run. Ticks me right off. They're either not paying attention, or don't care, or both. No excuse for it. The best I ever saw was when I was driving in a no-passing zone on a two laner. I saw the redblues of a sheriff's patrol car through the windows of the pickup truck behind me. As I pulled over onto the shoulder, the deputy passed the pickup across the yellow line (well, he's an emergency vehicle) and the pickup crossed the yellow line to pass me, putting the cop on the left shoulder of the road. The cop must have really been in a hurry, because he didn't stop to beat the pickup driver to a bloody pulp and arrest him for assaulting an officer. (around here it's felonious resistance/assault on an officer if you hit his fist with your face) When driving in Eaton County, Michigan, it's best to keep your eyes wide open, the stupidity is near Massachusetts levels. Mitch.
Re: [MBZ] Road rules
I care about it because those jackasses keep me from getting to my job. When they finally figure out that I'm going to keep my siren and air horn blowing in back of them, then they try feebly to get out of the way by cutting in front of some poor person who is waiting like they should. When I was new on the job I had a Captain who swore that on his last day he was going to drive, and run over the dimwits that did that. Now that I have that position, I'm thinking he was absolutely right. They should get rammed by the rig and left to rot. If you were hanging upside down trapped in your car because some jackass clipped you as he cut in front of you and you're busy bleeding to death waiting for me to get there, I'll bet you'd think different. Not that I have strong opinions on this subject or anything Ken In a message dated 9/28/2005 2:55:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Road Rules To: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I honestly don't see why anyone would care if people are cruising in the shoulder...they are the ones risking the ticket...opening the shoulder in high traffic reduces traffic by 40%i saw it in the history channel on the show modern marvelsthe german highway patrol allows it on the autoban.
Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale
Better interior, door panels etc. Better radio with amp etc. At least in the SEC's that is true.. Ken, In a message dated 9/28/2005 2:55:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 420SEL for sale To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Sep 28, 2005 at 09:41:36AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: It would be a steal if it was 89 and later. Those were more desirable What was more desirable about the 89-91 126 over the earlier ones?
Re: [MBZ] Another reason not to wade in the waters of New Orleans!
In a message dated 9/24/2005 9:28:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Another reason not to wade in the waters of New Orleans! To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 How could one tell the difference? Speaks spanish instead of Cajun. Ken
Re: [MBZ] here we go again
I thought it interesting that the newsies emphasize the gulf coast produces 25% of our DOMESTIC product. (my emphasis on domestic) My question is, what percentage is that of our total consumption? They seem to think that there is a severe shortage, but I seem to remember that domestic production is a small part of our consumption. Anyone have the real numbers? Ken In a message dated 9/21/2005 8:29:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Royce Engler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] here we go again To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii At the risk of igniting a flame war, I would point out that most of the companies operating platforms in the Gulf shut them down before Rita passed Key West. It takes a couple of days to shut everything down, button it up and get the crews off. Also takes a couple of days to get them back out there and light off the equipment, IF it isn't damaged. As far as the oil market goes, that's pretty much run by a bunch of traders in button down shirts at the NYMEC, and if they get panicked, the price goes up. Royce Engler 1985 300TD Turbo 265K
[MBZ] Affirmative action?
Hm.. sounds like every political party I've ever heard of. Doesn't every politician clean house when he arrives and put in his cronies? I wasn't going to mention Al Gore's name but since he came up... Oh, that's right, he created the internet. That's why he was qualified to be VP. ;-) Ken In a message dated 9/22/2005 4:38:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unfortunately this administration has seen a return to something of the old spoils system, where government jobs are given as rewards to people who are politically loyal, not to the people who are best qualified.
Re: [MBZ] here we go again
I think you have a good point. People are eager to raise the price and take the profit but reluctant to lower the price if they can still make profit. That's what just about everyone I know does. The grocer, the laborer and the McParts house all do the same thing. When NAPA raises their prices do they sell all the old stock at the old price? Have you wondered about the carpenter who can't make it back to your job until maybe friday? He found a job that pays more than yours does and he's making hay while the sun shines. At the time I had my gas station, prices were just topping $1.00. When I bought gasoline it was a cash transaction. The oil company wanted paid when they delivered. So sometimes my investment made really good money and sometimes I wasn't making the standard .10 per gallon, in order to keep selling. Ken In a message dated 9/22/2005 7:28:10 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] here we go again To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii David Brodbeck wrote: I suppose they'd argue they're just charging their replacement cost -- what it'll cost to replace the gas you're buying. Makes sense, if you sell the contents of your storage tanks for $2.60 just so you can pay $2.70 to refill them tomorrow, you'd be better off just closing the store for a day and leaving the tanks full. The fact that you paid $2.50 for what's in the tanks now is irrelevant. OTOH, some merchants are too resistant for selling the $2.70 stuff for $2.60 when the wholesale goes back down to $2.50. So what you see is prices going down 1-2 cents per price change, and up 20 cents all at once.
[MBZ] Reno air races
How'd I miss that? Must have been hiding behind a DC3 or something. Ken Box A17 In a message dated 9/22/2005 1:03:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] is this thing for real? To: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Wed, Sep 21, 2005 at 09:11:09PM -0500, OK Don wrote: You REALY need that for your paper route! I think I've seen a picture of a 115 wagon in a book, and remember reading about such things in the paper 115 manual - long ago. There was an ambulance version also -- -- Saw an ambulance 115 with euro lights at the reno air races. Had washington collector plates on it. K
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
How many of us work in large organizations? Or if you know someone who works in one ask them about it. Let's imagine a big report is about to go out from your New Orleans office. This report is to the shareholders, or the board of directors or to whomever you think is an important person in your large company. The computer that this report is on breaks down. When does the chairman of the board get called? Don't you have procedures in place to take care of this? Haven't you planned in advance? Do you have backup computers and copies of the document? Do you call the IS guy to come and take a look? Do you notify your boss of the problem, then he notifies his boss. And if you need more resources do you tell your boss who tells his boss and up the chain? What would happen if when the computer failed the chairman of the board comes in and demands information and tells you what to do? You bow your neck and ask what he's doing there before you've even had a chance to try to solve the problem, don't you? And what would the chairman do if you called him before you even called the IS guy? He'd ask why you weren't following the procedures, wouldn't he? So let's ask New Orleans why they didn't use those now flooded school busses to evacuate the poor, homeless, etc. Let's ask Mayor Nagin why he didn't know if Federal help had been requested, as reported in the New York Times story where he's berating the president for not sending every greyhound bus. Let's ask Governor Blanco of LA why she was haggling over who would be in charge of the National Guard units. (you do know that the Governor of each state is in charge of the National Guard in that state, don't you? SHE didn't send them in at the right time) The Feds were asking her to share the authority for them to help coordinate the rescue effort. One sign of the continuing battle over who was in charge was Governor Blanco's refusal to sign an agreement proposed by the White House to share control of National Guard forces with the federal authorities. Under the white house plan, Lt. Gen Russel L. Honore would oversee both the National Guard and the active duty federal troops, reporting jointly to the president and Ms. Blanco. She would lose control when she had been in control from the very beginning, said Ms. Bottcher, the governors press secretary. One of the basics is that New Orleans apparently thought the Feds were going to swoop in and save the day without them doing anything for themselves. The local ambulance complains about not knowing when some donated choppers were on the ground due to poor communications. That's local stuff. The feds have told us repeatedly that if my jurisdiction has a problem, we need to be self sufficient for at least 2 days while they get set up to help. Did they tell NO they'd be there in 2 hours? I doubt it. If anyone thinks that the president of the US, the head of FEMA or anyone else at that level needs to run out of the room shouting orders, you're sadly mistaken. Large organizations move slowly. They can do tremendous things, but it doesn't happen immediately. You the individual citizen should be self sufficient for 3 days. NO wasn't. They are looking for someone to blame other than themselves. Because of course, we're not responsible for ourselves, are we? As a side note, 4 of my firefighters are serving on the USAR teams in LA. I hope they stay safe and are able to help those in need at this time. Ken In a message dated 9/5/2005 6:04:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Mercedes [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Your remarks make me recall the 911 commission report about Ashcroft actions . The first plane go into the towers and he is at a meeting and told about it the meeting continues... the second aircraft goes into the second tower and he is told about it and the meeting goes on .. the third aircraft crashes in the Penetigon, where Ashcroft is having the meeting, and goes out to the parting lot to look at the damage Recall, Ashcroft is Secretary of Defense and has the job of defending the USA . Bush is frustrated cuz he can't contact the secretary of state to get the info about the attack . You should read the 911 report, it goes far beyond your thinking . Bill
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
You have good points. Let's think about them though. saw the problem coming miles away. Yes, they knew it would hit somewhere. But as hurricanes come ashore they move. So, you move your rescue equipment OUT of the area likely to be hit so it would be ready when needed. The local government should be implementing plans to get people out of the area. The Mayor and Governor should have taken an active role in moving people. If you've seen the pictures of the flooded busses you just have to ask why they weren't used to move people out of the area. Have you seen all the flooded and ruined cars? Why weren't they used to remove people? On the news today we are seeing many interviews with people saying things aren't all that bad and that they don't want to leave. they could have given help immediately when it was asked for?? There is some question about when the governor asked for assistance. Until that answer is given, I'm not too sure that the delay was caused by the Feds. The mayor says he doesn't know when or even if help was requested. I'm sure there is a record somewhere of when the Governor asked for help. That will be a big part of the inquiry. Disasters are local problems, the Feds only come in when requested. There is much controversy whenever the Feds require a state to do something. Remember the states rights controversy that pops up every so often. key people were on vacation or shopping for shoes and going to musicals.? If the company I worked for saw a potential disaster coming they'd want me nearby and on call.? I think it's reasonable to expect the same of our government officials. Nearby and on call? You don't think that Bush/Rice/Rumsfeld/etc. are putting on boots and sloshing through the water do you? They aren't responders, they are administrative people. They approve expenditures. That can and is done by telephone. Condi Rice, I'll bet a paycheck, is NEVER out of telephone range. You know the president isn't. There is no such thing as vacation away from work in those positions. While the media would like you to think that they were fiddleing while rome burned, what exactly did you want them to do? Does the top dog in your company come to the scene and tell you what to do? Or do you follow premade plans on how to solve problems until the scope of the problem is known, you relay the info to the leaders and then a more precise plan is worked out? Are you more concerned that Condi was buying shoes or that she was buying expensive shoes? Would it have made a difference if she was buying hip boots? Ken In a message dated 9/6/2005 11:56:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disaster To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:32:00 EDT, Bucks2 wrote If anyone thinks that the president of the US, the head of FEMA or anyone else at that level needs to run out of the room shouting orders, you're sadly mistaken. Large organizations move slowly. They can do tremendous things, but it doesn't happen immediately. Yes, but people saw this problem coming literally miles away.??Would?it have been reasonable to expect them to prepare ahead, so that they could have given help immediately when it was asked for?? Instead, key people were on vacation or shopping for shoes and going to musicals.? If the company I worked for saw a potential disaster coming they'd want me nearby and on call.? I think it's reasonable to expect the same of our government officials.
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Disaster To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 15:26:58 EDT, Bucks2 wrote The local government should be implementing plans to get people out of the area. Certainly I agree. I'm not sure any local government has the resources to pull that off without federal help, though, especially in this era of tight budgets. The buses were parked in the lot. The diesel fuel, now unusable, was in the tanks. That takes no resources. There is much controversy whenever the Feds require a state to do something. Remember the states rights controversy that pops up every so often. A lot of the controversy comes in because the feds often require states to do things without providing any funding for it. States rights is just an excuse for inaction; neither party really believes in it unless it's momentarily convenient for them. I agree. Are you more concerned that Condi was buying shoes or that she was buying expensive shoes? Would it have made a difference if she was buying hip boots? I don't care if she was buying flip-flops, frankly. The point is she wasn't in a position to do the most good. No amount of communications technology can substitute for being physically in the office with key people, when it comes to getting things done. Besides, it sends a political message when a disaster happens and people in charge simply go on with their personal recreation. It looks bad; it says those people are beneath our notice. They aren't even worth interrupting a vacation for. (And for the record, I disagree with the people who are playing the race card, here. The people stranded in New Orleans weren't ignored because they were black; they were ignored because they were *poor*.) And what did she do? Did she finish what she was doing in that store and go back to her office in Washington? Are you saying she should have dropped the shoes she was trying on and ran out? While Condi was busy watching Spamalot, Al Gore actually got off his duff and chartered a relief flight. That's leadership. Who paid for Al's flight? And what did he put on it? I haven't heard anything about that. Please tell me more. Ken
Re: [MBZ] Disaster
Good thought except that your emergency supplies are canned goods. When you put away emergency supplies you don't know if the emergency is going to knock out electricity so if they require cold then you've put the wrong stuff away. When you move upstairs you take your supplies with you so now you're just a little higher with adequate supplies. I live in earthquake country so my fire dept. has a borchure which says: Store 1 gallon of water per person per day, (3 day minimum) Non-perishable food for each person - foods that require no refrigeration, cooking, or preparation. Rotate the food supply every 6 months. Keep a 7 day supply of medication on hand at all times First aid kit Unscented household bleach to purify water Battery operated radio Bedding, Family documents in waterproof containers extra food etc. for pets Etc. In addition there is another booklet prepared for Y2K which tells how to turn off power supply, natural gas, etc. All is available free from your local authorities. In a message dated 9/6/2005 1:49:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, you hunker down with 5 or 6 days worth of food and water. Everything looks bad and then when the dam breaks you find that your house is sitting in 10 feet of water. You move upstairs or in the attic to get away from certain death. Your food and water is down stairs in the fridge where it's now contaminated and you couldn't get to it anyway.So much for being prepared.
Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
Absolutely wrong decision for those tower folks wasn't it? And I'll bet if they'd had a couple of days to make the decision a bunch more of them would have lived. But, many of them were above the crash floors and couldn't. You'll recall my original post advised we should help to any extent possible those who couldn't evacuate in NO. Recall I specifically mentioned those folks in that post. Included would be those in the hospital, those with no transportation, and those who were there to serve the community after the storm. I'm not mentioning the Jews who didn't leave Germany either because that wasn't the focus of the discussion. I think the folks who didn't leave Pompeii were silly too. Any other disasters I need to cover? Ken In a message dated 9/4/2005 6:40:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed People stayed in the second world trade tower, even though they were told to evacuate., look what happen to them .why don't you complain about their actions
Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
Ohhh, I know that one. What is New Orleans? Did I win? Did I win? In a message dated 9/4/2005 9:09:33 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting Bingo. Also, who has 500k people surrounded by levees without a PLAN on how to fix a damaged one
Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
It's just politics as usual. Let's see, we weren't prepared, we had a problem. Would it be the the Democrat City Mayor's problem? Would it be the Democrat Governor's problem? Or would it be the Republican Presidents problem? Go read the Mayors rant to the radio station. This is the guy who holed up with no telephones or other communication when the rest of the city government went to Baton Rouge. How much direction was he able to give? Then when asked if the governor had declared an emergency, as required to get Fed help, he didn't know. His excuse, they should have known. What a pitiful excuse for a mayor. Read the transcript of the interview. It's hard to tell if he's a street hood or a mayor. Could things have been different? should things have been different? Yes. Is it all the presidents fault? Hardly. Ken In a message dated 9/5/2005 10:02:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Alan Duff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] The New Orleans Times-Picayune has published an open letter to the President: You Bush haters are a sad, bitter lot. Alan Duff Knoxville, TN
Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
Quite a concept isn't it. One is actually responsible for oneself. I'm sure it will never catch on because people would actually fail under that system. Imagine that we would acknowledge that not everyone should have a college education. Only those with talent and aptitude would get to go to college. Others would just learn a trade and go to work without that 4 year party at the public expense. I've now read the National Geographic article which stated how ripe NO was for disaster. Oh why didn't the government go in and demand that the people change where they live and how they did things? Could it be because we don't want big brother telling us what to do? Yet, when disaster strikes, we blame them for not making us take action. It is a no win situation. Ken In a message dated 9/4/2005 10:28:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Ken, I must assume you are not really from Puget Sound! That whole you got yourself into it, take responsibility is just not kosher here. We all want to suck on the public teat without having to pay or cover our own way. Where do you get off telling us to be adults and think about the consequences of our actions? If you tell me you are a Democrat, I will squeal to the pinko commies in Olympia and they will hunt you down for expressing such a cold republican thought. And how dare you assume the imbeciles down south are capable of planning and making considered decisions about their life and future. Please leave that to the elected officials and service providers. These folks all want the lux life that having LT Don working with them provides. I, for one, think they should all be given that life, no matter what their IQ or physical abilities. then we can sterilize them
Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
I don't think race has anything to do with it. I think poor judgement is the culprit. There are whites, blacks, indians and bayou folks that all made bad choices and are now paying the price for it. Ken In a message dated 9/4/2005 10:28:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ken, you aren't alonei don't feel sorry for them either...lets cut the shit, we're all racist in here...right? (sarcastic)
Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
You bring up an interesting concept. If the airlines are indeed responsible and at fault, then what of the rights of people to travel? If the airlines had denied travel to the terrorists, who would pay the lawsuits for the denial of their civil rights? They didn't have any weapons, box cutters weren't considered weapons then. Wouldn't we have heard a great racism debate for denying 20 muslims the ability to travel on airplanes? Now in the politically correct system we're searching 80 year old women and denying flights to 18 month old children to insure that we aren't profiling. If indeed airlines are at fault, how would you change the system? Ken In a message dated 9/4/2005 10:28:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Bill Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed If someone makes a decision on a issue, your general principal is to let him/her suffer the outcome and forget about government support .. OK . Why did the US Government protect law suites from the airline industries after 911??? They are not to be held accountable even though airlines security is under their control and duty ??? Congress said, the law suites will cripple the industries and therefore, make it very, very, difficult for recovery...and laws wills prevent that while in fact, the airlines are the ones at fault.. You can trace this logic back in US History to the James Town flood and earth dam breach in California during the 1930's . Not one person was held accountable for their decisions, no government intervention, no law suites, recourse or whatever, while hundreds dies God Bless America, more worker where hire to replace the dead ones and time moved on and everyone looked the other way Live, Liberty, and the pursuit of death is alive in America . Proud to be American is your Logo Today Bill :-[
Re: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no
I could be wrong but wasn't the big issue of the tsunami about how slow we were to respond? Wasn't there an international debate about how little we sent and how long it took to get there? Didn't I read a bazillion stories about how they needed help now and we weren't there yet? Ken In a message dated 9/4/2005 10:31:54 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Isama Ben Ladin dead (OT, no guns) To: Diesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Not confirmed, but, how else could it be. He died last night from laughing so hard over what the U S A is doing right now. The LEADER, POLICE and SAVIOR of the free world fails where third world countries succeeded: help thy neighbour in dire need. I remember the big wave that hit Indonesia last year - we were there next day. Now it happens in our back yard. We watch it on the news and feel sorry for the low lives who should be held responsible for their neglect to heed warnings, but demand help me!, shit in the halls and rape and loot. Isama laughed him self to death, I am crying. Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
Re: [MBZ] Nawlins
I believe that is part of the reason for the impression that the response was so slow. Florida has had hurricanes come through a number of times recently. The citizens and the response community have BTDT. How long since the Big Easy did it? Did their citizens know what to do? Even the articles on NO recognized that the people had their heads inthe sand. KEn In a message dated 9/4/2005 12:11:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] A VERY serious topic To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I noticed that lack of community cohesion as well. While in FL last summer for Charlie, though there was a huge contingent of tourist, the locals did band together to assist others. NOLA folks just had no idea how to be a society and waited like rabid animals for somebody to save their bacon. Not even bothering to lift a finger to aid others, just sat like steaming piles of s**t and waited for their hand out. Is this the effect of too much welfare given to the poverty stricken? Have we taught them to not do an honest days labor or to assist the rest of society when needed? Upon occasion I entertain thoughts of catastrophic collapse of society, and always had put the scavengers (street people) in the equations as survivors, since they knew how to subsist on so little. I seem to have bypassed the response of the welfare scum, and that they would have so little grasp on civilization that once the veneer were pierced, they would revert to animals without the calming effect of a 40oz, cable TV and Rock cocaine. Just my $0.02
Re: [MBZ] A VERY serious topic
Thanks Russ for a little of the real story. I wonder why the mass media isn't reporting on that? I did note that france is sending a team of 20 rescue workers to help out. Australia is donating a million or so dollars. Our friends the Japanese are sending half a million. According to the news reports there is NO FOOD AND NO WATER available. Could there be a little bias going on? Kind of like the Iraq story where EVERYBODY hates us. However my nephew seems to think that many people like us in the little town of Bagdad where he is stationed. Keep telling us what you know, Ken In a message dated 9/4/2005 1:56:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Russ Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] A VERY serious topic To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Who Wait a minute. Don't believe all that the National Media is putting out. Yes there has been random snipering and Lawlessness. But what the media isn't passing along is the hundreds of people that risked Life and Limb rescuing folks from roof tops and attics, I'm not talking about the Professional rescuers either these are just everyday citizens that stayed behind and were trapped along with everybody else. When the blow was over and water started rising they started helping rescue less fortunate people instead getting the Hell Out of Dodge. The Baton Rouge Community has Open up it arms to the folks that lost all. The Evil Empire (Wally World) has sent 3 truck loads of Water and Canned food to the major shelters everyday for no charge everyday since Wed. Also donated $15M to the disaster relief fund. Before any of the Wally World bashes start sure they are gonna write off of taxes the thing is that they did it Because they wanted to. I just got off the phone with a friend who I worked with at the local Sheriff's Dept in the SR squad. He just spent 3 days running an air boat doing SR Operations in the Heart of the Project District NEVER ONCE did he take any fire. Sorry for the Rant but I just wanted to let everyone know the Real Story. As for my family we had no damage other than a tree that decided to fall on S-I-L's pickup truck. Russ W. '83 240d x2 Gonzales, La.
Re: [MBZ] A VERY serious topic
I think those who could possibly be terrorists should be searched. Do you really think Teddy Kennedy, one of the most recognizable politicians in the US should be delayed because his name is on the list? An 18 month old not only was searched but kept from boarding the plane because his name matched. Has any country, anwhere in the world had an 80 year old woman carrying a bomb? The answer is no. The suicide bombers in Isreal, Iraq, Ireland, Spain, US, and everywhere else are late teen to early 30's men, and occasionally women. Those are the bombers. Those are the people who fit the profiles. Those are the people we should suspect. And yes, sometimes you are suspected of being guilty until proven innocent. Happens every day in our court system. People are accused, detained and not innocent until the jury says so. Profiling works very very well in many places. Virtually every terrorist expert believes that profiling is necessary. That's exactly what they do in old town Jerusalem. That's what they're doing in Britain. The key is, you don't tell everybody what you're looking for. When every oposing politician is demanding that you tell every move you're going to make to the whole world, it doesn't work. When the police are allowed to keep their secrets, then they stop many events. If cockpit doors are the answer, and they have been installed, then why are we still searching people? And who, who on earth thought that they would fly the planes into the buildings? Hijack the planes? Maybe. But nobody seriously thought they'd fly them into buildings. Ken In a message dated 9/4/2005 1:56:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now in the politically correct system we're searching 80 year old women and denying flights to 18 month old children to insure that we aren't profiling. Yes, yes, I know. You're one of those people who thinks only Arab men should be searched, right? Did you notice that, when Israel tried that technique, the terrorist groups just switched techniques and started sending women instead? Profiling can be defeated because it's predictable. If indeed airlines are at fault, how would you change the system? Reinforced cockpit doors would have cost little and would have eliminated the problem.
Re: [MBZ] A VERY serious topic
I'm pretty sure that all the countries who were whining about the US not doing enough for the Tsunami victims will be sending millions of dollars of aid. Because of course they know exactly how to help. I believe France is leading the charge. Ken In a message dated 9/1/2005 5:00:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Harry ?M.) ) Subject: Re: [MBZ] A VERY serious topic -- put away yer guns, email clients,taxes, and bad dogs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mercedes mailing list) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Been watching the news here about whats going on there. Was told my former Guard unit may be on ready alert to assist in the evac and help with food and water. Some have already volenteered to go on their own. Considering whats going on in the middle east it just makes you wonder who will be there for us
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 4, Issue 5
Beats hell out of me. But you have been following the bitching about the guns thread? Ken In a message dated 9/1/2005 6:46:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Subject: Re: copying hard drive To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 And where do people get off complaining about content on a free list? -Curt
Re: [MBZ] Weight of soy oil
Fresh or salt? As you may know, fresh water floats on salt water. Mineral content of your particular location also varies the weight. I can see a Google in your future. Ken In a message dated 9/1/2005 1:07:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weight of soy oil To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Diesel fuel floats so its lighter than water which is 8lbs/gal. A pint is a pound the world around as my grandmother says. -Curt
Re: [MBZ] what did you pay
What bothers me is that the hookers in SeaTac raised their prices because of the gas Prices. It's my car and my gas they were riding/working in!!! Ken In a message dated 9/1/2005 7:32:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Weight of soy oilwhat did you pay??? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dave M. wrote: In the podunk towns I live next to, diesel popped to $3.25/gallon this morning. Heck, I saw $3.16/gallon in SeaTac yesterday, and that ain't a podunk town by MY standards!
Re: [MBZ] New Orleans looting
Seems odd doesn't it that the government is expected to take care of all those poor defensless people in NO. Are the ones demanding rescue now the same ones who failed to heed the MANDATORY evacuation of the city BEFORE the hurricane hit? Are those who are now without food and water the same ones who scoffed and berated the government for telling them to prepare for chemical and boilogical attacks a year or so ago? Did they have their 3 days of food and water put away for disasters? Hasn't the government been preaching that you need to be self sufficient for at least 3 days after a disaster? We're now in the fourth day and according to the Black Congressional Congress spokesman this morning infants are dieing due to lack of formula, people are dieing due to lack of food and water. One day without food and water causes death? Or are these people the ones who believe the government should protect them from everything? Being a part of emergency services (fire dept) for the past 26 years has showed me that very few people actually think it could happen to them. Well, a good portion of the south is now learning a lesson. To that man who was rescued from his attic who was critical of how long it took rescuers to get to him and then said he didn't leave because HE DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD BE THAT BAD, You caused your own problem. I feel no sympathy. You're a selfish bastard who is taking resources that should be used for someone else. There are some legitimate reasons for still being in the City and needing help. First, some poor or indigent folks simply didn't have a method to leave. Some stayed for essential services. Some were actually there to help restore services when the storm was over. If they need help they deserve anything we can do. To those who stayed and are now looting, they should be shot. (mandatory gun content) To the Red Cross who is collecting money to help the effort, screw you! When your Chairman lowers his almost $500,000.00 salary down to a reasonable level I might start contributing again. I urge my friends to donate to local efforts with real people doing real work. Not large organizations who continually boost thier salaries and benefits using charitable contributions. During 9-11, the International Assoc Of Firefighters used volunteer and current staff time to collect and distribute funds to those in need. Check with your own unions, your local charities, the helplines and volunteer aid societies to find a place to donate to that uses 100% of the money for help to those in need. They are out there, look for them and donate to them. People who don't have the money to run $50,000.00 ads about what good work we do. (cost of producing the ad, the stations donate the airtime to run them) Yes I'm a cold hearted bastard who doesn't feel any compassion. Think about it though, shouldn't we take a little responsibility for our own actions? Ken In a message dated 9/1/2005 8:05:24 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: JabbaHursty [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed it has to do as well with the government having given up on the concept that they are even vaguely responsible for the protection of its citizens. I'm no longer sure they still even acknowledge any responsibilities. look at how as i type this they continue to stand by and allow the carnage in new orleans to continue unabated. useless bastards still never forget to come for your money though
Re: [MBZ] twisted logic, Canucks poking fun at Americans
We down here just shake our heads in wonder at everyone says 'eh' after a sentence. And what's up with all your money being different colors? What an odd sense of logic that is. Canada sure is odd. Ken PS, Does your head get tired, what with all that constant shaking? In a message dated 8/31/2005 10:58:17 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We up here constantly just shake our heads in wonder at this everyone must have a gun mentality down south. It really is quite baffling and twisted logic. Tim 1982 300TD Moby
Re: [MBZ] Reality
It seems to me that the last two messages on that subject were not even about the subject. Shouldn't someone have changed the subject? And if we count the number of posts on guns do we count the ones complaining about the people talking about guns? Where is Gabriels MB subject matter like I was taken to task over? You see, we whine about whatever isn't of interest to us. If guns offend you delete, just like I do whenever I see oil, diesel mileage, etc. Kinder, gentler, warm and fuzzy. That's the new millenium way ;-) Ken In a message dated 8/31/2005 6:28:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Its fixing to be, nobody seems to get the message that the gun topic is over so I guess I will have to filter it then. Gabriel S. wrote: I thought this topic was dead? On 8/31/05, kweimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [MBZ] Gmail - rant
Where's the MB content. I want MB content in EVERY message. Kaleb, Kaleb, filter those guys talking about GMail. I'm tired of seeing GMail posts. This is a car site not e-mail. Oooo, Oooo, I'm sooo offended... Ken In a message dated 8/31/2005 6:28:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gmail - rant To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 how many times do i have to say this people: gmail is the best *web based*email...I never compared it to software based programs like endora or outlook!
Re: [MBZ] copying hard drive
This is the third email in a row that has no MB content. I don't want to know about computer stuff. There are computer stuff sites to go to. And why didn't someone truncate that looonng message about guns when they were complaining about them? I had to page past several pages of gun stuff. This is a car site. Ken In a message dated 8/31/2005 6:28:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] OT: copying hard drive To: mercedes list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii What's the easiest way to make a backup copy of a win98 bootable drive?
Re: [MBZ] Cars of which we dare not speak....
OH OH OH. there's no MB content in this message. This isn't a camera site. The subject line doesn't match the content. Why didn't someone change it? Ken In a message dated 8/31/2005 6:28:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cars of which we dare not speak To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I don't think so. The only Nikons that are really collectable are the old range findre versions and the professional F series. That having been siad, I don't follow the Nikon market much. I have two F-3s that just keep on shooting. On 8/31/05, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK Don, is my 1980s Nikon N2000 camera and its 200mm, 28mm, and f 1.4 50 mm Nikkor lenses collectible?
Re: [MBZ] copying hard drive
Are you tired of my bitching yet? And you know, I didn't even have a post in the gun saga. I just got tired of the bitching about it. I'll be quiet now. Ken In a message dated 8/31/2005 6:28:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: copying hard drive To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Ghost is good. The current version of Ghost and Drive Image allow you to ghost while running windows and is great for backing up workstations to a central server. The older versions of Ghost require you to boot from a dos floppy or CD. Drive Image includes a Linux boot CD Image that does the same thing, but also includes support for NTFS filesystems (for saving the image files). -Dave Walton On 8/31/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 247
I was specifically speaking of the trolley with the MILLION DOLLAR EACH cars that runs from Freighthouse Square, a derelict shopping area to 9th and Commerce. The cars were built in IIRC Sweden. All spare parts must be ordered from there. That's a cost effective move. Yes, there is a bus station along the route, and the amtrak station near the Square. It also runs past UW Tacoma. Unfortunately nobody but the bums ride it. It did exceed ridership expectations though. After it was in service for a few months the transit folks declared it a winner in that the ridership was almost double the expectations. Unfortunately, someone ask what the exact numbers were and it was revealed that noone actually counted riders. The operators simply guessed at the number of people on board. Now that's a case of running a tight ship! And guess what, the busses still drive right past there. Ken In a message dated 8/29/2005 1:15:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Ok, you got me. He is really just a touch sensitive because he wanted the light rail to actually go all the way to the airport, not just to the Mall. Now Ken will be spending his hard earned dollars to fuel his Benz so that he can drive the extra mile to pick up the in-laws, instead of being able to watch the game on TV while they marvel at the wonders of Puget Sound and how well the democrats have made of mess of the place. I suspect he also would like there to be ONE transit system instead of every tom, dick, and harry or municipality or guy with a train setting up yet another way to get lost. Widen the roads, make more diesel and allow only the people in a diesel benz to use the roads
Re: [MBZ] White coats
Don't tell anyone but I'd hate to see you go Roger. Where is Kathy when we need her for listmom? My main car is 4 years old too. Keep it under your hat. Ken In a message dated 8/29/2005 2:24:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] White coats To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Wait until we start bombing each other about how the vast majority have their lips surgically grafted to the rumps of the gods in white lab coats. That should provoke a few grins.. Irreverent but close to the truth. Regarding list splitting, I am on digest and yes, I'm a bit weary of the endless bio posts, all the gun blather not to mention 240D 240D 240D ON AND ON. And as an owner of a four year old car, I dare not speak of it. So, I just read the headers and if nothing grabs my eye, I just delete the whole thing and go on to the next one. It is what it is. After ten years of reading many of the MB lists (starting with Dave's and living through Cookies) nothing changes too much. Forget splitting. RLE/Seattle
Re: [MBZ] V-6 diesel vs Lexus hybrid coast to coast
What, diesel hybrid instead of CNG which they touted so highly a few years ago, and spent major amounts of money installing all the compressors and tanks? I'll have to look into that one. If anyone can through good money after bad it is the government. I just love watching the empty busses go round and round. And our new cutting edge trolley system, now that's a winner. No more cold bums in the winter sitting in doorways. Now they all ride the free trolley back and forth all day. And with the streetlights set to give the busses and trolleys priority, they get nowhere fast! Ken In a message dated 8/29/2005 5:00:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: David Goldsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB V-6 diesel vs Lexus hybrid coast to coast To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Apparently GM is making diesel hybrid buses - supposedly Pierce Co. Transit (WA) recently bought some. DG
Re: [MBZ] THE REALITY
My sympathy to you and yours. It is never the right time to lose one of the good guys. Ken Tacoma Fire In a message dated 8/27/2005 10:17:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] GUNS AND THE REALITY To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii HI all for the record I am a phila policeman the story attached is my friend and ex partner policeman Terrence Flomo he was killed Friday morning by 2 jit bags
Re: [MBZ] List Splitting
I agree Dick. Let's throw the diesel stuff off and get back to talking about real Mercedes. One could think that the diesel folks could have their own oil discussion list and the rest of us could discuss general stuff. Ken YTTIC In a message dated 8/28/2005 11:01:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Dan Landiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] List Splitting To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Re: list splitting. 206 messages in 24 hours is sufficient cause. I'll hang around another day or so to see if the content justifies the volume, and if this keeps up I'll take a vacation and look back in later.
Re: [MBZ] car from year of birth
Then she'd really laugh at my little BMW Isetta with only one door. I filled it up a few days ago because it was down to just over a half gallon left. Cost almost $6.00 to fill 'er up. At 65 MPG a fellow can cruise all over town pretty cheap. Oh, just for the record.. I park it behind my MB. ;-) Ken In a message dated 8/25/2005 7:22:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] car from birth year http://seattle.craigslist.org/car/93385962.html this would be a great addition, but the wife hates them. Thinks they look like clowns should tumble out when doors are open
Re: [MBZ] gas/Mobil/Heretic
Now THAT'S funny. Ken In a message dated 8/26/2005 1:54:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is just a clever attempt by Andrew (heretic !, nonbeliever !) to get us all to weaken Mobil Oil, the purveyor of Mobil 1. ;-) Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 84kmi
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 198
My 01 S class MB does that too. Says how many miles before service and checks the level. Wasn't it 00 that MB offered that first? MB counts down the miles to service. Seems like it starts a 300 or so then at 100 then when due, if I remember right. I change when it's convenient for me. So if it's within a K or so it gets done. There's something about buying an $80,000.00 car and saving $50.00 on an oil change that makes me twitch. Ken In a message dated 8/24/2005 12:28:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Oil Condition Sensor To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Newer Cadillac's have a display in the dash area showing Oil Life expressed as a percentage, it will typically go to 10,000 miles before showing an oil life of 0%. There is also one for the transmission fluid. An industry first in new vehicle features, this oil probe can determine and detect the actual level and remaining engine oil life. It can reduce the need for costly engine repairs due to poor oil maintenance as well as prevent unnecessary oil changes. This was from a plug for a 2005 STS. Interesting, Dan Elliott 82 300D-T 84kmi
Re: [MBZ] E-coli
You know the old saying of eat poop and die? There's something to that. Fortunately the people affected are almost always elderly or very young. Middle age folks are strong enough to withstand the attack. There have been outbreaks in lots of places, Odwalla apple juice, Jack in the Box, the california school system had some contaminated strawberries, the petting zoo in my town infected a few kids. So I guess the warning is don't eat poop. Ken In a message dated 8/25/2005 6:56:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gotta love that good o'le fecal-oral contamination route. We've got a town up here that had its water supply contaminated with E. coli and 6 people died as a result. Not to mention the hundreds that got sick. Tim 1982 300TD Moby
Re: [MBZ] e-coli
Sure they are. Your belly is full of e-coli right now. It's the 0157-H7 strain that causes the problems. They are more aggresive than the regular guys and so they eat the lining of your guts and cause bleeding. Ken In a message dated 8/23/2005 8:34:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel price Mexico To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 e-coli are not my freinds -- --
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 176
Very polite response. How many of us live in areas with those extremes? If so, then it makes sense. Just as it makes sense if you live on the edge of the Great Lakes and you park your car outside the garage, and the wind blows right through the radiator, and it's a 100 year cold, and the electricity is out, and the emergency generator won't run the block heater, you might have to look around for alcohol based antifreeze like they used in the old days. If you drive a 20 year old MB, with old seals that will leak more with M1, and it only has 50K left in it before the body rusts off, save the money. M1 isn't for every car. Dino oil has been working very well for the last hundred years. Having said all that and raising some BP's, I use M1 in my new MB because that's what they recommend. I use dino in my older vehicles because.. because.. that's what the manufacturer recommends. Ken In a message dated 8/23/2005 9:33:50 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 175 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I might consider using M1 if I lived in a harsher climate (Phoenix or WInnipeg, e.g.) but it doesn't seem cost effective in my situation.
Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise
Just double park in the street. Oh, and don't forget to turn on the four ways for safety. Ken In a message dated 8/23/2005 12:04:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 That works just fine except for pulling out of a parking space. On 8/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right turns are a lot safer anyway. Just make three rights and you have a left. BINGO, no more problem. Ken
Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise
OK, I appologize. Could you tell me though just exactly how much INTOLERABLE cruelty he does deserve? Oh, and one more thing. By using the double parking method, you get much better spaces closer to the door. Ken In a message dated 8/23/2005 12:04:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] a NEW strange noise To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You guys are showing Don a total LACK of respect coupled with far more INTOLERABLE cruelty than he deserves.
Re: [MBZ] Switch tumblers, etc.
If you take your burned up boat starter to the rebuild store they will advise you to replace your ignition switch, as they commonly corrode inside and hang up, keeping the starter engaged. This has NOTHING to do with heavy keyrings. In my case the key has only a plastic float which weighs a few ounces. So there are other explanations. If you want to argue that inside your MB there is no corrosion, or that there is no dirt/dust/grime to gum up the works, knock yourself out. Anyone who has spent any time under the dash will tell you about the debris that finds your eyes. Now Marshall warns us that MB themselves have issued warnings about keychain weight. Using my logic, this means they think that added weight in the ignition switch causes wear/damage/harm. Is this correct? If so then why would my 126 body key weigh 12 grams, (per my carb float scale) and my 220 body key weigh 30 grams? The factory themselves increased the weight of the key by 2 1/2 times. How does that make sense? Having said that, my entire keychain weighs 93 grams, 5 keys and a CPR shield. The mercedes key being the heaviest item. Ken In a message dated 8/20/2005 8:58:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Wilton Strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Switch tumblers, etc. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 This is not an urban myth. This is absolute fact. Several years ago, my wife burned out the starter in our 80 240D by letting a very heavy key ring hang so that the key could not return to the ON/RUNNING position from the START position. The weight hanging on the right hand side of the key held it in the START position, of course, keeping the starter running as she drove along. Again, it was a HEAVY key ring. LESSON: BE VERY CAREFUL USING HEAVY KEY RINGS. BEST NOT TO USE THEM. Wilton
Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube
So all the dinosaurs were skinny? Crude oil is lean muscle mass? I'm getting confused again. Ken In a message dated 8/19/2005 1:47:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] fuel experiments...bacon grease and OLD gear lube To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I think bacon grease is pushing the envelope of sanity a bit too much. I seem to remember reading that animal fats were to be avoided at all costs.
Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch
I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing? Having installed three master link chains on 126 bodied 560's, I am skeptical that they fail all that often. Obviously if it fails it is catastrophic. But to fail, both clips have to come out. If they are properly seated to start with, there just isn't any reason they should come off. Ken In a message dated 8/16/2005 4:25:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Good writeup on Mercedesshop forum. You MUST have a chain swager or equivalent, you don't want to use a master link (I've heard of more than one failing). You can hold the chain in place by hand with a helper or with wire ties (vise grips work too, but are a PITA).
Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch
I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing? Having installed three master link chains on 126 bodied 560's, I am skeptical that they fail all that often. Obviously if it fails it is catastrophic. But to fail, both clips have to come out. If they are properly seated to start with, there just isn't any reason they should come off. Ken In a message dated 8/16/2005 4:25:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Good writeup on Mercedesshop forum. You MUST have a chain swager or equivalent, you don't want to use a master link (I've heard of more than one failing). You can hold the chain in place by hand with a helper or with wire ties (vise grips work too, but are a PITA).
Re: [MBZ] 140 woes
I'll second the great ride of the 220, it is mahvelous. But, driven through gaps in traffic that are smaller than they are? No damn wonder traffic in Seattle is so backed up all the time from accidents. Roger is driving. ;-) Ken In a message dated 8/16/2005 6:10:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having said all that, I have driven a few 140s (plus the W220) and they are marvelous to drive and ride in. The V8s have good power and can be driven through gaps in traffic that are smaller than they are. OK, have at it. RLE
Re: [MBZ] 140 woes
I'll second the great ride of the 220, it is mahvelous. But, driven through gaps in traffic that are smaller than they are? No damn wonder traffic in Seattle is so backed up all the time from accidents. Roger is driving. ;-) Ken In a message dated 8/16/2005 6:10:00 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having said all that, I have driven a few 140s (plus the W220) and they are marvelous to drive and ride in. The V8s have good power and can be driven through gaps in traffic that are smaller than they are. OK, have at it. RLE
Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch
Thank you Marshall, you're the first person I've found who has actually seen one. I've asked the question on several sites and no one else has ever replied that they have seen it happen. As recently as 2002 the replacement chain I got from our favorite Georgia supplier was the clip type. I would expect MB to use the swaging method as the tool is available to them, as are the myriad of other specialized tools. And I would expect they make a profit off of patent royalties from the tool manufacturers. So, logically it would be in their best interest to insist on that tools use. Perhaps I'm just lucky with no failures. Ken In a message dated 8/17/2005 8:18:19 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 6 degrees of stretch To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've heard of the master link failure too. But only from people who had the swaging tool for rent. Has anyone on this list ever personally seen one fail? Or had personal witness to one failing? Having installed three master link chains on 126 bodied 560's, I am skeptical that they fail all that often. Obviously if it fails it is catastrophic. But to fail, both clips have to come out. If they are properly seated to start with, there just isn't any reason they should come off. Ken Mercedes changed from clips to swaged master links in replacement chains because of the number of clip failures following replacement. Once the change was instituted, the only approved use of the clip was to attach the old to the new chain when pulling it through. All chains in engines from the factory have been swaged (not clipped) for MANY years. I personally know of (actually saw one and pictures of another) several clipped chains that have failed, but don't know if the clips were single (one long clip for both links - can fail if installed backwards) or double clips (one for each post) since the clips were no longer present. Marshall --
Re: [MBZ] lies
Lemme see if I unnerstand: When Bill went to lie down with Monica to lay her, he did the deed, then they lay together and snuggled. When the news broke, he made up a lie about the lay. So when he laid her then lied about laying her is that when he blew it? Ken In a message dated 8/11/2005 7:44:41 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] clogged radiator? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Kaleb, it's not LAYing around, it's LYing around. And when you recline, you LIE down, not LAY down, as all the yoga and pilates instructors say. Sorry for being such a twit but this is one of my pet peeves... Only 5 percent of the populace knows the difference beween lay and lie. I guesss you have to be a baby boomer...
Re: [MBZ] lies
This is the infamous line: It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If the - if he - if 'is' means is and never has been, that is not - that is not the only one thing. It means there is none. That was a completely true statement. - Bill Clinton, August 1998. Bush does seem like a plain speaking dweeb compared to this. Ken
Re: [MBZ] Tags
Mine is $170 something per year. Remember, a 40 year old 36 foot powerboat. At least mine is in really good shape. I can't imagine paying that for a piece of junk that barely floats. The price is based on length and age. Condition makes no difference. In a message dated 8/10/2005 4:21:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unless your vehicle happens to be a boat where the tags are still based on a mythical value determined by the state. In Michigan, it's based on length and power. If your sailboat has an aux engine, the registration is the same as a powerboat of the same size. I think it was less than $20 for three years on my 16' Hobie Cat, but a friend's 29' sailboat with Atomic 4 backup power is over $200 IIRC.
Re: [MBZ] tags
And the last time you saw a bear on the shore from your Benz? I was going to ask if you'd caught many fish off the back of the Benz, but buying them at the store is so much cheaper you'd have me in that argument. The scenery is what it's all about. KEn In a message dated 8/10/2005 4:21:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LMAO, because my FiL built himself two cruisers. Trying to dump the 32 footer, POS and nobody is biting, for two years! Just got back from taking the 42 footer along the inside passage to AK. MiL busted her ankle doing step aerobics on the tub while in port. Glad I am paying for a 72 benz instead of a luxury tub. My fuel bill is for 17 gallons at a shot, not the 350 he pumps.
Re: [MBZ] tags
Makes a lot of sense doesn't it? A usage fee and tonnage fee that is totally backwards. At least in Canada their taxes are a little more honest. There they abreviate their Provential and Federal sales tax, which is I think 15% (I didn't even look this year) as a GST. It makes it easy to remember what the tax is for, Gouge and Screw Tax. My daughter lives on the far side but she generally comes to visit me. Dads food is better and cheaper than what's in her own cupboard. I don't think she eats until she comes to visit, then stores up enough for another couple months. She's in Cheney, where are you? Ken In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:20:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: JJJ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] tags To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 i have my boat trailer license bill before me...it says my trailer weighs 00190 and the fee is $40.25...my oh my...my 300sdl must weigh 4400 and costs $33... you seattle guys ever cross over to the east side?
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
I paid 107,9 per liter for regular gas in Nanaimo yesterday. I only bought 433 liters. And to think I called the robber barons in Vicrtoria names when they charged 99.9 per liter! Ken Yes it was in the boat, but I just had to make you guys feel a little better. And just think, I get almost a mile per gallon!!! In a message dated 8/9/2005 8:56:56 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Well, speaking for the western part of Quebec, today regular jumped to 98.9 a litre (CDN $4.50/gal) locally, but diesel is still 97.9. Regular was 84.9/litre about a week ago.
Re: [MBZ] R-12
How exactly would one determine that the R12/oil was the cause of the fire? I've been to literally hundreds, if not thousands of car crashes in the last 26 years on one of those shiny red fire engines and have never been able to pinpoint the AC as the culprit or even a contributor. I think it much more likely to be that a crash of such consequence would spread gasoline, diesel, motor oil, or scrape and short out wires causing electrical insulation to burn. Have I seen AC components broken and their contents leaked out? Lots of times. Never been able to pin a fire on it though. Ken In a message dated 8/10/2005 5:00:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] R-12 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii David Brodbeck wrote: That's the oil mist burning, then. Bet it'd burn even better if you used compressed air instead of R-12. ;) What's the miscibility of mineral oil in air? I think the picture's point is that if you break open the condensor in a crash, R12 burns just fine.
Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net
Perhaps someday folks will realize that if they want to live in the country they should find work in the country. If they want to work in town, then live in town. Why should I get all upset over someones long commute because they live 30 miles away from work? Why should I pay extra taxes or tolls (piece of shit Narrows bridge project) to make a carpool lane. (Note: the new bridge will add only one carpool lane in each direction, no additional capacity for other vehicles. The toll by law, must start at $3.00. They predict it will rise to $7.00 by the end of the first year. The carpool folks believe that they are so holy that they should be exempt from the toll altogether.) Yes, I traded my 2 1/2 acres of country to live in the city until I retire. My 4 mile commute takes 9-10 minutes. My previous commute was 23 miles and depending on the time of day was up to 1.5 hours. If an accident or jumper is involved all bets are off. The legislature still hasn't figured out that when the public votes no, they mean no. Ken Currently on my boat paying road fuel taxes for absolutely no benefit. The 9.5 cent increase would be taken from me on every gallon of boat fuel with no recourse. Yes I am aware that I can get 1/3 of the total tax back by filing extra paperwork, which I do. The other 2/3 is lost to Olympia. In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:05:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Back on the 'net To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In Washington, the gas tax is constitutionally mandated to be used solely for transportation needs, and as you'll soon see, we don't have no stinkin transportation needs here--no siree.
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 3, Issue 69
If you know what I mean? IYKWIM YTTIC Ken (yours truly, tongue in cheek) In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:05:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Schisler, Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay #4567424013 my 240D To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii Yep, IYKWIM is what someone put in their signature line. Sort of like LOL, laughing out loud and ROFL, rolling on the floor laughing, but I didn't know what was. So, I posted it here hoping the author or anyone else could enlighten me. ;)
Re: [MBZ] diesel prices
1966 36 foot Chris Craft. Twin 327 Chev. 8 US gph @ 7.7 knots. If you like varnished mahogany you'll like this boat. Ken In a message dated 8/10/2005 7:05:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diesel prices To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 One mile per gallon? Is that a Canadian gallon?? What sort of boat? On 8/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I paid 107,9 per liter for regular gas in Nanaimo yesterday. I only bought 433 liters. And to think I called the robber barons in Vicrtoria names when they charged 99.9 per liter! Ken Yes it was in the boat, but I just had to make you guys feel a little better. And just think, I get almost a mile per gallon!!!
Re: [MBZ] tags
Unless your vehicle happens to be a boat where the tags are still based on a mythical value determined by the state. Of course marine fuel still has the road tax applied to it. Ken In a message dated 8/10/2005 10:42:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At least we are able to pay $30 for tags no matter what the value of the vehicle, instead of the outlandish fee charged to drive a luxury car. Gump would have run me around $250 under the old scam
Re: [MBZ] Gargoyle
You don't really believe that when her office loses a 20 MILLION dollar suit that she should pay attention to the appeal date herself do you? I mean after all, she has important things to do, like, well.., like, uhm, uh, well it's only 20 MILLION DOLLARS. The taxpayers are rich, it's no biggie. KEn In a message dated 8/10/2005 10:42:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The current resident has been a pustulant sore on the ass cheek of the state since she ran rough shod on the DNR, screwing citizens. Then she blew millions of state fund because she was too incompetent to do her job as AG. Anybody could have seen she would not pass out the KY before mounting us
Re: [MBZ] diagnosing bad valve stem seals/guide
I just hate it when that happens. Ken In a message dated 7/28/2005 5:23:47 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diagnosing bad valve stem seals/guide To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed You are confusing diesels with gas engines. The economy(vac) guage you are talking about is only on gas models. Diesels do not have a lamba system, that too would be gas engines. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Re: [MBZ] Long hill guide test
Let me take a shot at explaining this one. When you take your foot off the throttle you close the air intake into the engine. With very little air/oxygen getting into the intake manifold, then the fuel that is there (if any) doesn't burn as efficiently. With the air intake closed off it also makes it harder for the cylinder to draw air. Think of the sound your shop vacuum makes when you plug the hose. The cylinder then has more vacuum than normal because of the closed throttle and it tries to draw air anywhere it can, especially thru the valve guides. If there is extra space in the valve guides from wear, or seals with cracks or just hardened up and not wiping well, then the engine draws in more oil through the valves. After going down the long hill and suddenly opening up the air supply so burning can take place the oil will burn dirty giving the smoke. You can prove the vacuum being higher by watching the vacuum guage go off the scale to the high side when you suddenly take your foot off the throttle. It also drops to nothing when the throttle is flat on the floor. This happens with both diesel and gas engines. So the test will work with both. Does that make it easier to understand? Ken Don M., I question whether this method will work in a diesel: To check your valve guides and/or seals find a very long hill and drive/coast down under compression, creating a large vacuum draw, at the bottom of the hill apply fuel watch your rear view mirror and if you get a noticeable puff of blue smoke it is seals/guide issue. Is this procedure recommended for gas engines or specifically for diesel? Someone correct me if I'm wrong - does the mechanical fuel injection pump on an OM 617 motor stop all delivery of fuel when 'compression braking'? If it doesn't, and some fuel is still being burned, then I expect that the oil leaking through bad valve stem seals would also be burned and there would be no puff of oil smoke when throttle is applied.
Re: [MBZ] diagnosing bad valve stem seals/guide
Now here's where I need a physics lesson. If indeed your engine has zero vacuum, how does the cylinder fill with air and fuel? Let's use real numbers, a 617.95 engine has bor/stroke of 90.9/92.4 and fills through a relatively small intake runner. This doesn't create a vacuum when the piston goes down to draw air in? There is no vacuum there? Without a turbo how would you get enough velocity to fill the cylinder? If I remember right there was a guage in the lower part of the left most guage in the cluster of my 300SD that acted a lot like a vacuum guage. What is it measuring if not vacuum? Please set me straight on how the lambda system works if there is no vacuum in your engine. I thought that the drop in vacuum during acceleration on the upper chamber caused an imbalance and allowed the spring force to close the contacts which enriched the mixture. If there was no vacuum how does it work? Ken, in wondering mode. In a message dated 7/28/2005 12:46:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] diagnosing bad valve stem seals/guide To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII rumor has it that [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don M., I question whether this method will work in a diesel: It won't. To check your valve guides and/or seals find a very long hill and drive/coast down under compression, creating a large vacuum draw, _This_ is the problem with this test. A diesel doesn't create a large vacuum. One of my W123s does have a butterfly valve in the intake, so it creates a _small_ vacuum. All the rest will create a vacuum only when the air filter is _way_ overdue to be replaced. *grin* Philip and his fleet of vacuum-free engines
Re: [MBZ] Space shuttle grease
You ABSOLUTELY must use the CORRECT grease or the world as we know it WILL cease to exist. The specification is YMR 6992.345 for wheel bearing grease because the metal is different in MB than anything else. WHY do you think the SHUTTLE exploded? Wrong grease OF COURSE. Just poking a little a little fun because it's been a long day. I hope the night goes better. Ken In a message dated 7/21/2005 1:04:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Should you just replace them at some mileage interval? on my cars i have never replaced the front bearings all of my cars are 15 years or older and are around 150,000 miles however each time the front brakes are replaced the wheel bearings must be repacked with grease and ( oh boy here we go on a long diatribe on using some kinda super duper Mercedes grease.. because god only knows why!) it does not matter whos name is on the grease any e.p. wheel bearing grease (for disk brakes) will do ...clean the old stuff off and repack the new stuff these cars aint the space shuttle folks
[MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 102
Or, you could jack up the car and rest it on blocks under the lower control arms so the tires are just barely off the ground. Take Juniors sidewalk chalk and hold it against the tire tread and rotate the tire to make a chalk stripe all the way around. Middle of the tire is nice but either side of middle works too. Then take a nail, ball point pen, or something like it and brace it against the floor and the tire. Again, rotate the tire to make a line all the way around. The ends should meet exactly, if not, start over. I used to do this with just a pen line, but then I used to see without bifocals too. Now take the $5.95 spring loaded shower curtain rod and adjust the length to fit firmly in between the tires. If you adjust the length so you push hard and grunt when inserting it between the tires, that is exactly 25 pounds. Rotate the tires so the rod is in front, and use a small wedge to hold the tires from rotating back down. Take your tape measure and measure carefully from one line to the other in front and in back. The difference between the two is the toe. If you adjust the tie rod ends to give about 1/16 inch closer in front than in back, you're golden. Just as our friend says below, you need to keep the steering wheel straight and adjust whichever side is out. Simply sighting down the outside of each front tire to the rear tire will give you the side which is out. Sometimes both are, generally the right/passenger side is the one out of whack. If you find that the wheel is just a fraction off center after this process, and you don't want to go through all the marking again, just pull the steering wheel off and move it one or two notches in the direction needed. Not nearly as involved as the below method but it works real well. Ken In a message dated 7/17/2005 2:49:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Weekend, shade-tree wheel alignment (long) To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII The tire wear on Helga was getting bad. I didn't want to spend money on tires without at least improving the chassis 'cause I don't like to throw money away... But Helga is a rusty, old beater. I bought it as a parts car - mainly for the engine. I've now been driving it for 8 months... So I decided I needed to at least _improve_ the alignment, even if I couldn't make it right. Oh, and I did it in the garage, not under a shade tree. Do I need to change the subject? *smile* I have a caster/camber measurement tool. I used it to set both the caster and the camber on both wheels. Any adjustments to caster or camber will alter the toe in! Once I had both the caster and the camber where I wanted it, I started to check the toe-in. Well, the way I used to do it worked, but it was hard to get the steering wheel straight and it took a lot of effort. I figured I could improve the process. I decided to try a Jim Cathey approch. (This is a complement, Jim. You seem to have a talent for achieving high-tech results with common tools and materials.) First, I built a spreader bar. The manual says that 20 - 24 lbs of force needs to be applied outward to the leading edge of the wheels. Here's how I made my speader bar. I took a threaded rod, a couple of nuts, a short piece of 1.5-inch angle iron, and a 2x2x6ft to build it. I took the angle iron, marked it for 2 pieces each 1.5 inches long, but I did not cut it yet because I wanted to drill the holes while it was big and easy to hold on to. Each of the 2 pieces are identical. On one side of the angle I drilled a hole big enough for easy clearance for the threaded rod. On the other angle, I drill two small holes for dry wall screws to attach the angle iron to the 2x2. Once finish, one of the angle iron pieces was attached to one end of the 2x2. This one is for guidance. I put the threaded rod through the big hole, positioned the second angle iron so there would be a reasonable compromise between far-apart-for-better-guidance and close-together-for-long-adjustment-travel. One nut is on the (inside) end to keep the rod from falling out and the other one presses against the second angle iron pieces to apply outward force. (It would be better if I had a long spring between the nut and the angle iron - but I didn't have one on hand) To determine how long the 2x2 needed to be, I held the whole assembly under the car and said About here. I cut off the extra wood and then use a 3-inch piece to act as a foot on the outer end of the threaded rod. To do this, I simply drilled a hole that's just a bit smaller than the rod and threaded the wood block onto the end of the rod. To use the spreader, I put the wood-only end of the 2x2 against the inside of a front tire and the other end (2x2 block on the end of the threaded rod) on the other tire. That puts the 2x2 itself practically touching the oil pan. I turned the nut until
[MBZ] Re: Centered Steering Wheel
Depending on how far you turn and how far you move the wheel, yes you're right. Most wheels cancel with about a sixth of a turn or so. (12 o'clock to 10 or 2 o'clock to click off) When you move one notch your moving 1/24th or so. (from 12 o'clock to 1130) so not really enough to notice. And yes if you've got a worn steering box you are centering in a different area and might notice a pull. And if your working on a car with a steering wheel airbag it's more trouble than it's worth. Remember that we're working on a beater that you don't want to spend money on. I don't recommend this for your good car, but only one you're trying to get some cheap mileage out of. Ken In a message dated 7/17/2005 6:42:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Darrell W. Sigmon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Centered Steering Wheel To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed If you find that the wheel is just a fraction off center after this process, and you don't want to go through all the marking again, just pull the steering wheel off and move it one or two notches in the direction needed. If you do this you will mess the turn signal cancellation way off since the shaft has a cancel 'pad' that is supposed to be in the center with the with the wheels straight ahead. Darrell
[MBZ] Re: 350 SDL, blower motor.
There is a strip type fuse which will give those symptoms outside the fuse box a couple inches towards the midline of the car in between the firewalls. Open the little black plastic box and look CAREFULLY at it. It's possibly broken. A couple bucks at most. Ken In a message dated 7/16/2005 2:47:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Constantine N. Polites [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Re: 350 SDL, blower motor. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Suddenly, without any noise or warning the blower stopped running. The blower does not function in heat, defrost or A/C mode. I have not checked any fuse yet. Is there a dedicated fuse for the blower anywhere, besides the fuse box? The illustrations on the CD are not very clear regarding locations. Incidentally, for those who followed the installation of my new 603.970 motor (MB rebuilt), it now has 10,000 miles and is using 1/4 lit in 3000 miles. My fuel consumption has improved and is now about 460 miles per tank- it was 400 miles when brand new. It should eventually reach 525 (that's what I had with the old rod bender). I still have not solved my problem with the SRS light. If anyone out there has a hard bound manual for the 350 SDL- with good wiring diagrams, I certainly would be interested. Constantine
[MBZ] Re: Damn women and the 300SDL
don't tell me let me guess, she saw it was hot and hurried home before it overheated. BTDT, Ken In a message dated 7/16/2005 5:00:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed So regina gets home in the SDL that has a possible bad head/gasket as it had coolant dissappearing somewhere, no overheating or anything. We had to leave again right away, i get in and it smells hot. I glance over at the temp guage, the damn thing is pegged, the coolant light is on. CRAP. So I slowly let the radiator cap off, it pukes steam for probably 5 minutes before all the pressure is gone. Crap. Put more coolant in it, with cap off is sometimes(most of the time) flows out. Crap. Well, if the head was not screwed before it sure is now. Lucky thing I have a completely rebuilt #17 head to pick up in a couple of weeks for $700. Looks like the car is probably off the road for a while. So now I either need to rush the 380SE euro conversion to the road, or see what the heck is wrong with the 560. The engine is ready to pull out of the 380 and the euro 5.0 is sitting on the garage just ready to go right in. Maybe if I work hard I can get it done this weekend. --
[MBZ] Re: Top speed in what gear?
You can't beat my BMW Isetta though for proving there is always an exception. It overrevs if you try to exceed 38-40 MPH in 3rd gear. 4th (top gear) will take you to 54 mph. It matches your criteria, low power, 298 cc, 13 hp. If you've seen a rolling egg you know about wind resistance. I think the majority of the time you see the phenomena beign talked about is when overdrive is involved. The drive train is geared to run up to to 1:1 ratio and then when you engage OD it is for economy not speed. Ken In a message dated 7/14/2005 9:25:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Dan Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Re: Top speed in what gear? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Not at all uncommon at all. In a relatively low-powered engine, a higher gear can put you too far off the power peak to overcome wind resistance and other running friction at higher speeds, so you can achieve a higher speed in a lower gear. Downhill or in a stiff tailwind, you may be able to exceed the lower gear's top speed, but not on the level. Dan
[MBZ] Re: price of diesel...interesting theory...
I've noticed that as the price of gas goes up so do my wages. 20 years ago when I made $15.00 an hour gas was a buck and change. Now that I make $30 something an hour, gas is two bucks and change. If gas prices returned to normal, would I have to take a cut in wages? When I started driving gas was 29 cents per gallon. I wouldn't want to work for those wages again. Ken In a message dated 7/7/2005 5:07:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] price of diesel...interesting theory... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed yes, once something goes up, its VERY hard to get the price down because they know people will pay it, take gas for example, I doubt we ever see it go below 2 a gallon again, much less back to normal at around 1.29
[MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...
I don't think it's as easy to really be fair about the amount of tint that is legal. I think at night it is more difficult than during the day. Obviously the cost to equip each officer with the light standard device would be prohibitive too. Were I in your legislature I would have included the test in the regular inspection. If you want to make money doing the regular inspection, you must invest in the new device. Then, everyone is doing the same thing. I also believe that this subject didn't come up in the legislature because they were bored and looking for something to make a new law about. No doubt the LE lobby made it a priority for thier efforts. Why? Probably because it was getting out of hand. Without being too much of a bleeding heart, I can't imagine stopping some of the jerks I see on our roadways in the middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere, with back up even only 5 minutes away. That takes guts. Give them every chance to go home to their families after each shift. How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol only. Is your regular inspection done by any business who gets a license to? Ken In a message dated 7/7/2005 10:13:42 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed On Thu, 7 Jul 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fighting crime?, like folks driving too aggresively and cutting off people and speeding through school zones endangering kids, and other CRIME? Put yourself in their shoes and make a traffic stop on some jackass driving like an idiot with 4 or 5 others idiots in the car who just about ran over YOUR mother. Then walk up next to that car without being able to see in and see the dangers Well said. I wish cops would go after the type of people you described more than just speeders. I also agree that it is reasonable to have a tint limit... inside. Some type of reasonable compromise should be reachable. A limit on the amount of tint is reasonable. Yes. But it should not be so poorly implemented. It is pretty easy to tell if tint is illegally dark... ticket and move on. Yearly certification is not IMO the way it should be done and what I was griping about. John
[MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this...
If you got inspected, and if they checked it, yes they would make you fix it. I've only taken one vehicle through the process and it was pretty basic. They checked the Vin # on the post and the vin stamped under the hood. Thanks for stopping by, have a nice day. That's not to say on a slow day they might not check more, but it was a simple process that I observed. I wouldn't worry too much about it. The reason I needed inspected was the car had been part of a bankruptcy proceeding and didn't have a proper title. When I brought a car in from out of state, twice now, there was no inspection at all. Since the titles were in order they simply transferred them to a WA state title in the office with no other problems. Ken In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Who's bright idea was this... To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How often do you get regular inspections? In Washington state we only have emissions inspections on a regular basis, and then only in some counties. A full inspection is only done in certain instances, and that by the State Patrol only. I'm gonna ask, since I might be moving out there soon...would my non-working parking brake cause my car to fail inspection in WA? I'm not sure yet whether I'll bring it or sell it before I go, but if I decide to bring it that would be a concern.
[MBZ] Re: What......
That explains it. No money in the inspections so why invest in the machinery. Sounds like it's gonna suck to have ANY tinted windows. My car has the tint because it came from California. I wouldn't have done it myself, but the tint has kind of grown on me. I like to look of the black car with the black windows now. Ken In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Our inspections are yearly, all counties, mandatory, etc. Cost $5. They consist of checking the windshield for cracks in the line of sight, all exterior lights function properly, horn works, and windshield wipers work. Done by any business that gets the license... John
[MBZ] Re: Cost of Dist Condensor
Actually condensors have a value that is important to prevent point failure.
The old timers actually looked at how the points were wearing and would adjust
the condensor value to prevent transfer from one contact to the other. If you
knew the value of the stock condensor you could find a cheap alternate to
replace the obscenely priced MB product.
Ken
In a message dated 7/7/2005 2:05:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
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From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cost of Dist Condensor
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Joseph Shaw wrote:
I just went to two of my local parts houses. One said they couldn;t even
get the condensor for my car ('72 250C), and the other said they could have
one here tomorrow morning. However, the cost for it was $25.00, basically.
Does that sound right? I thought someone on this list that recommended I
try changing it said it would only be about $5.00.
Except for the mounting bracket, condensors is condensors. You might see if
there's a VW part that fits.
[MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 2, Issue 8
Intermittant electrical failure like a fusible link gone bad. I'm telling you, check it first before you do all kinds of exotic things. Ken In a message dated 7/1/2005 7:01:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mono valve??? To: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK Don wrote: Thanks to all - This morning the outside temp was around 70F. The fan started about as one would expect, within a half a block of the house. Cool air came first, then the center vents shut, and hot air came. Temp sensor tube no longer connects the temp sensor to the cabin air? If that happens, your CC will attempt to control the temp inside the dash. Another idea would be an intermittent electrical failure.
[MBZ] Re: Mono valve???
I haven't been paying too much attention to this thread so excuse if I'm way out of whack. Have you changed the fuse? No, not the regular fuse but the big metal fusible link. On the 126 bodies there is a fusible link which runs the ACC unit between the double firewall. It's in a black holder about 3/4x3/4x2 1/2 long. It has a screw on each end which holds it in. These go bad wit just a crack showing. As with all MB fuses take it out and feel it before you confirm it is good. The symptoms I had were no fan and odd heat flowing out the vents. Ken In a message dated 6/30/2005 11:46:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mono valve??? To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The defrost mode does not force the fan on (this one, now - it should though). If it's not ready to turn on, nothing I do has any effect. Once it starts, it runs just fine. I've not had the full heat experience since that one time (knocking on wood). Relays? Brushes? How do you get the fan motor (I know -RTFM).
[MBZ] Re: Government is on a rampage
That seems like throwing away your vote. Since you know one of the two major parties is going to win, shouldn't you pick the lesser of the two evils so you at least had some choice? I don't think either of the major parties is planning to change because 5% of the voters (or whatever small percentage it was) didn't vote for one of them. Of course I live in a state that counted the votes, declared a victor, recounted the votes, declared the same person as a victor and then let the other party pay for a hand count and declared their candidate the victor with no further recounts possible. Included in the hand count were ballots forgotten in machines stored in unguarded warehouses. Even two out of three wasn't enough to overcome the bias. In the ineveitable court case, the judge decided that even if dead people and felons did vote, which he acknowledged happened, he wouldn't change the outcome. What a way to pick a governor. So, I think that for the next 3 1/2 years until I retire, I'll just keep polishing the shiny black S class and hope for the best. Ken In a message dated 6/29/2005 7:18:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Government is on a rampage To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I did my part and avoided those two like the plague, and will continue to do so. On 6/29/05, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe voters were really, really afraid of Kerry? Gore was the only reason I voted for GWB. By 2004, not even Kerry could make me vote for Bush. Why does the Republicrat party keep giving us two non-choices? Because 98% of us vote for those two. Casey
[MBZ] Re: Mercedes Digest, Vol 1, Issue 145
War is not unlike a chess game. Each move one makes is dependant on the move ones opponent makes. To play the way it seems some folks want, the current administration should announce to the world the gambit he plans to use and the exact number of moves he will make before he quits the game. Of course if the opponent knows what plays you plan to make, and how many moves you'll make before you quit that would be an insurmountable advantage. Ken In a message dated 6/29/2005 9:22:43 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Re: Government is on a rampage To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We are Still in Germany after 60 years. What is the exit Strategy Mr Truman? Oh, you are dead... We are Still in Japan after 60 years. What is the Exit Strategy Mr Truman? Oh, you are still dead dead... We are still in South Korea ater 52 years. DOn't bother asking about an exit strategy until Kim jong Il is Kim jong dead. Two words hopelessly lost from our vocabulary are Propaganda and Traitor. Consequently, by not calling it what it is, we have LOTS of both.
[MBZ] Re: Government is on a rampage
That's an old gimmick. If you say something often enough then someone will start to believe it. Nobody likes Bush. Yet, he gets elected. Nobody likes his policies, yet we benefit and elect more Republicans. If the Dems keep saying it, maybe it will become common knowledge, just like him not showing up for National Guard duty, and not getting good grades in college. Eventually the truth leaks out. Ken In a message dated 6/29/2005 7:27:22 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Government is on a rampage [Downsizer Dispatch] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 The far right dislikes Bush? That's news to me. Tim 1982 300TD Moby On 6/29/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's interesting how both the far left *and* the far right are finding they have a dislike for the Bush administration in common.
[MBZ] Re: Wheel Refinish
As an aside to the shipping costs, Griots has opened a warehouse closer to the east coast for that exact reason. If you check on shipping again (since Jan 05) it should be much lower now. For those of us who live 4 miles from their HQ, we can still pick up with no shipping. Ken In a message dated 6/19/2005 8:34:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wheel Refinish / Document for Article To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I got the Griots wheel package. Really a great product. they include everything you need to clean and paint (after you remove the old paint) alloys. I spent $85 ($58 for the package and the rest shipping) There is a zinc primer, then the color, then clear. Enough rattle can paint to do all four. Also included is the cleaner/prep and a degreaser. The instruction sheet is professionally printed and other glossy four color sales stuff. As a bonus I got a free bottle of speed shine. When I did my wheels I decided to use the set the blaster pitted by using Garnet sand, instead of glass or walnut to remove paint. For those I chose the auto parts store rattle can method. Took a large primer can, two color cans and two clear coats May have cost all of $20
[MBZ] Re: another stupid oil question
Inferior dinosaur stock. There was a little inbreeding, some rumors about May / December stuff and other things that caused the area to get a bad reputation. After the Dino's had died they went in and found evidence of porn, group sex and other degradation. All in all a bad gene pool to be getting oil from. Now the much better oil comes from places with higher breeding, not some seedy little hick town. YTTIC Ken In a message dated 6/20/2005 4:42:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] another stupid oil question To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed So what makes them inferior assuming they have all the same ratings otherwise? Marshall Booth wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: OK, concerning dino oil. Anybody know/heard/used the oils you get a farm and fleet type stores? The one here sells Mystic and Harvest King, both diesel rated, have all the ratings etc. There is nothing WRONG with those oils (or the Wal-Mart house brqand oil), but they are FAR inferior to Delvac 1300 or Delo 400 (and not that much cheaper). Marshall
[MBZ] Re: inferior oil stock
Oh no!!! Not dancing too!!! ;-) Ken There was probably dancing involved too. --R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inferior dinosaur stock. There was a little inbreeding, some rumors about May / December stuff and other things that caused the area to get a bad reputation. After the Dino's had died they went in and found evidence of porn, group sex and other degradation. All in all a bad gene pool to be getting oil from. Now the much better oil comes from places with higher breeding, not some seedy little hick town. YTTIC Ken
[MBZ] Re: Why?
In a message dated 6/17/2005 10:00:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If a 8oz piece of foam with straps and shiny coating is a functional helmet, why do motorcyclists wear 4lb hunks of Kevlar/Fiberglass composites? Because bicycles rarely hit 120 mph? Because our friend Newton said the impact from 20-0 is less than 120-0? Ken
