Re: [MBZ] Duh
I think I'm gonna ecuse myself for a while... I did a few favors, sent a BETA to a guy for free who never said KMA in thank you... then it's junk mail and politica to the tune ofr 105 emails a day to delete... See ya'll in the Fall to see if anything's new... T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dog food -- very off topic (must reading for dick van patten fans)
I can attest to Science Diet... made from a good source of protein. In the long run a sensible diet for a pet ismore beneficial to a pet than killing with kindness. I think of parents' spoiled obese beagle who suffers from people food treats. I attribute the lonegevity of my many dogs over the years (and those cats that were in my life) to a good diet. on 6/4/08 19:48 Uhr, Peter Frederick at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iams and Science Diet. My cat is 16 this summer and still going strong, great teeth, pretty active for a cat reaching 70 in people years, and all he gets (with rare exceptions) is Science Diet. Not cheap, but good pet food. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Tires to Buy?
My mechanic seems to buy a lot of Kumho.. I was turned off trying to pronouce the name with a straight face (I got embarrassed asking the lady at the tire place how much they were.) Small local shop has Cooper CS4 touring rated tire with an 80K mile wear warranty. I wouldn't pay additional for a extra coverage though. I'm thinking of tring a set of those. on 5/19/08 10:34 Uhr, Robert Rentfro at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had Falkens on my 1999 Mustang. Lasted much, much longer than the Eagles that came on it and they seemed to perform just as well. I liked them in that application. Bob R Gonna be 109 today -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LWB250 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:53 AM To: Banned; Okie Benz Subject: [MBZ] What Tires to Buy? Feh. Gotta buy a new set of skins for the wife's 2005 Mazda 6 before she drives it up to Indy I'm looking at Goodyear and Kumho, but I'm wondering about Falken. Anyone have any direct experience with Falken? I've heard of them, but don't know anyone who has actually owned a set. Conti and Dunlop are right out, as I've never had decent performance with either one. Michelins are nice, but I'm not paying a premium for a name. She's got these damned low profile tires on the car (they're stock) and the things are obscenely expensive because of the tire style. I'm listening... Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Strange Ebay experience
Tis happened to me on counterfeit RL/Polo from China and also on a sale where a UPS employee was selling brown company UPS slacks. Something about Homeland Security and official uniforms.. on 5/19/08 11:10 Uhr, Steve MacSween at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 5/18/08 22:07, Harry Watkins at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I get an email that EBay had pulled the item and cancelled the auction. They said it could have been for a number of reason but nothing specific. This can happen for relatively minor breaches of eBay's regulations, or if the vendor has a debt to eBay of over 120 days. As you mention it was clothing, another possible reason is that eBay has taken a lot of heat over counterfeit merchandise sales. If someone fingered the seller on that, they would pull the item first then ask questions later. Mac ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What Tires to Buy?
I basically drive like someone's old aunt who leaves an hour early for bingo... so high speed cornering probably isn't an issue... my days of doing 180 turns like Frank Cannon, PI in the old Lincoln were three decades ago. Still no one remarked about the Cooper tires? That rebate on Michelin sounds simple. on 5/19/08 12:10 Uhr, Donald Snook at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy R. wrote: My mechanic seems to buy a lot of Kumho. My former mechanic really liked Kumho tires. I think they are fairly cheap and wear really well. I had a set on My old Oldsmobile. The sidewall was so stiff (and I ran 40 psi in them) that they looked like radial tires. They did wear like iron, but because that side wall was so stiff, it didn't corner all that well at high speed. They would hold for a while, but when they broke loose, they REALLY broke loose. It was all or nothing. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Refueling!
Season has begun for me so that means 60 mi. r/t every day until November. All I can do is just be amused as I watch diesel climb. Each week I fill... but it seems to be escalating more and more! Just two weeks ago was $4.069 and today @ $4.469. I've mentioned a perk is that I claim a good supply of WVO from the company food outlets. I've two more sources open this year. I'd never want to alter one of the cars but I'm (more) seriously considering building a processor. I think just to pass the summer I'll have enough fuel delivered to get through until Fall (at current price) then when there's time assess the situation. on 5/18/08 20:49 Uhr, Wonko the Sane at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did a 90 mile round trip yesterday (high school graduation party) and out of curiosity filled up (stuffing in as much diesel as possible) before I left and then when I returned. Just under $16 dollars, and that was driving very conservatively (55 mph) in a 240D. $4.46 per gallon! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo/NOTE!
Jim, I was mistaken... posting on others' thread about the 1992 300D 2.5, I was talking about a 1992 300SD (140). So, my mistake, it's not a 2.5 but an SD, apparently with the 3.5L engine. Nice clean vehicle, though. It's in Asheville, NC. on 4/21/08 2:10 Uhr, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NOTE:? The engine in your subject line is NOT the problem engine.? On the contrary, the 2.5 turbo would get you up the hill with ferver, and reliability.? The 3.5 turbodiesel is tthe one with weak rods. If you are still going to pass on this 2.5, let the list know where it is! Jim in Phoenix -Original Message- From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:49 pm Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo Thanks for all the advice, guys... I kinda need the excuse to tell myself No. I doubt the engine has been replaced. The last three miles of my daily drive the next 26 weeks is up the steepest state maintained road in NC (In low gear and steady speed around 20mpg I'm sitting on about 3000 rpm for about 9 minutes). That would probably be ideal conditions to do some engine damage. 4/20/08 23:23 Uhr, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Timothy Robinson wrote: So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was fixed in the later years? Yes, it was fixed after production of the cars ended. If it has a recent factory replacement engine it should be fine. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo/NOTE!
on 4/21/08 12:47 Uhr, Mitch Haley at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct Mitch... Peter, it's on this routine that I've learned where the gauges seem happy. There's one section that the car wants to cross the 80C mark. It's when I approach the last hairpin curve. One more steep ascent and I land. I ALWAYS let the car idle a few minutes before shutting it off to let the oil circulate on level ground, perhaps the turbo to cool a bit. Peter Frederick wrote: The only time this would damage anything is if you have a bad injector. That could burn out a prechamber. Else it's fine -- make sure your cooling system is in good shape! I think he was worried about putting high stress at 2000-3000rpm for several minutes a day on a 3.5L that he was thinking of buying. He might be wise to worry about that if the climb requires more than 2/3 throttle. Mitch. might buy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not that tall 5'10 but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would sell for 8k plus. Tom Harruff wrote: Listers I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the ad. Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? Thanks. Tom Harruff Naples, FL 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
A friend sent this link: http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstations.aspx?zip=s%20rc=Netx Interesting. Enter your zip code and it gives a daily update on fuel prices at local stations. 4/20/08 22:13 Uhr, Tom Hargrave at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I did not say that competition would make huge changes in the cost of gasoline. But competition will cause the manufacturing cost to drop some because there is none between the refineries today. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luther Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 9:04 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today In the electronics industry, production cost is THE major player in selling price. My uncle works for a division of HP in RD/Sales and his saying is that the first new item off the assembly line will cost $500,000 and each one thereafter will cost $0.05. Comparing the electronics industry to the oil industry is like comparing apples to steel mining. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
I thought the 126 was the rod bender? (through 1991?) The one mechanic has is a 140 (SD). ooops.. so sorry, ya'll were talking about the 2.5 124... my bad. 4/20/08 22:19 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 words to consider: rod ben der. John On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not that tall 5'10 but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would sell for 8k plus. Tom Harruff wrote: Listers I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the ad. Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? Thanks. Tom Harruff Naples, FL 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo
As I know nothingk! thanks John and Kaleb for warning... So... ALL 3.5's? It wasn't something that was fixed in the later years? on 4/20/08 23:00 Uhr, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: all 3.5's are rod benders Timothy Robinson wrote: I thought the 126 was the rod bender? (through 1991?) The one mechanic has is a 140 (SD). ooops.. so sorry, ya'll were talking about the 2.5 124... my bad. 4/20/08 22:19 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you mean a W140 300SD instead of the subject W124, then there are 3 words to consider: rod ben der. John On 4/20/08, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My mechanic has a '92 300SD just shy of 100K miles. I kinda fell for it 'cause it's pretty immaculate. There's a lot of equipment (to go wrong?) that my 300s don't have, like power door and trunk latches, side mirrors that fold away electrically, IR keyless locks, etc. on 4/19/08 21:40 Uhr, Dwight E. Giles, Jr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto to what Kaleb said. I love mine. But maybe in the NE would sell for more than 8K. -I know of one with 87K that recently sold on auto trader in CT for $14,500. I have been tempted to try to sell mine for $10-12K, but love it too much. Only beef-(other than AC evaporator leaks, etc,) I am not that tall 5'10 but can't get seat back far enough to straighten out my right knee when I drive on long trips.. I have tried all adjustments-but my 123's are more comfortable in front seats in that regard, even though they are manually adjusted. I see NO downside in buying this model. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 10:42 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1992 300D, 2.5 Turbo There are many pros, no cons I can think of. They are probably the best cars MB ever made. Mine gets 33mpg, has plenty of power, drives very nice, no problems. If it really has 45k on it I would figure it would sell for 8k plus. Tom Harruff wrote: Listers I have found a 1992 300 D (2.5 Turbo) with 45,000 miles indicated in the ad. Before I call and go to look at the vehicle, what are the listers experiences with this vehicle. Pluses and minuses? I recall lots of past discussions about the 2.5 but have not really followed them. Price (other than Kaleb's standard $500) that it should sell for? Thanks. Tom Harruff Naples, FL 1985 300Dt (Diesel Dolly) 1994 C280 (Wife's Car) 2000 Sedan Deville (Road Car) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [Banned] I fill up the 140 with diesel today
Remember decades ago when the main complaint against driving a diesel was Oh, I don't like having to drive to a truck stop for fuel (most gas stations didn't carry diesel). Today when filling I stopped at an old fuel oil (heating) company, kinda off the beaten path. I'd known they sold retail for highway use but most people would prefer the convenience stations with the new pay at pumps. This station wasn't anything more than a couple of towering tanks and a few old antiquated pumps, nothing electronic. The basic price was about .06 cheaper than other places @ $4.059. The guy knocked off .02 for cash. I think the nicest thing was I could fill slowly without having someone impatiently waiting in line behind me. on 4/18/08 21:30 Uhr, Kaleb C. Striplin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was 3.93 I think. Its 3.88 and up around here. Mostly up. I have a theory though about these stupid high diesel prices. Seems to me like they are artificially holding the price of gas down, and inflating the price of diesel to make their profit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs
Let's see... VICARIUS FILII DEI (Latin = the Pope) ads up to 666. Many held the Pope was the Anti-Christ. Anyone added up any of the new candidates yet? Hm... on 4/15/08 15:21 Uhr, John Freer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK you guys, fanatic gun owners and bible thumpers.I'm out of here. On 4/15/08, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to. And in an attempt to alienate the rest of the list who are not ignoring this crazy talk: I'll go on to say that the interpretation of the text that I have been most inclined to believe is that those who have a relationship with Christ will be raptured out of the earth before this requirement to accept The Mark of the Beast is foisted upon mankind. And do I recall that it goes that those who remain on Earth and refuse to accept the mark will be beheaded? - Brian Barry wrote:Actually we are much closer than you may have imagined. My stepson is an audio-visual tech and runs those systems at trade shows of all kinds. He obviously gets to hear what is said and shown in those shows. He related to me, hearing something rather disturbing at a security devices trade show a year or so ago where the plan for future identification will be to implant an RFID chip in the palm of everyone's hand and one in their forehead. That way, when the systems wants to make a positive ID of you, it will read the chip in your forehead and compare it to a retinal scan of your eye, then read your thumb print and compare it to the chip in your hand. If it all matches, great, you are who you say you are. This can be implemented right now. 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Makes you stop and think. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs
Thirty years ago I lost my wallet which contained my sSocial Security card. I never bothered to replace it. Eighteen years ago my driver's license which I never replced nor renewed. Never had a problem... ...that is, until after 2001 and the Patriot Act. I always banked at the same bank where I was known by first name.. until the older tellers and VP retired and the bank changed ownership (twice or three times). Now most of the staff are younger than my small appliances, I am an account number and the computer makes all final decisions. There are no discretionary decisions allowed. (Gerald, I need to borrow $5,000 on signature. Sure Tim, come by after lunch and I'll have you a check.) As I haven't needed credit, don't use credit cards and the house and cars are paid for, there was/is no current credit history. Zilch. The only problem arose when I signed a contract with a new company last year and was required to fill out Form I-9. I didn't have documentation required. I sought to replace the Social Security card but didn't have proper identification. I didn't have the identification to get the identification required to get the identification. I cou;dn't even drag my poor ole mother with me with her documents to attest I was me. I did have an official copy of birth certificate but it did not help. Finally, last April as I suggested curtly that I could stop payment on the checks for my income taxes and perhaps the government would recognise me?... I went to the local school board and requested high school transcripts be mailed to me. I wrote the college and requested transcripts. Luckily, the old secretary at the school recognised me, made conversation and neglected to ask for the legally required ID. The transcripts were mailed to me and I took them to Social Security unopened. This was acceptable identification. on 4/14/08 5:04 Uhr, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have experience living without a bank, but unfortunately that experience is only as recent as about eight years ago. I did not have a bank account at all, and I didn't want one. Wasn't long before that time that I did not have a credit card (and had never had one). I paid all my bills via money orders usually obtained from the supermarket customer service counter, or even from the convenience store. There was a limit of 2 or 3 hundred bucks on the money orders usually, so I'd have to get two to pay my rent. You see, I was, and am, deeply suspicious. Well, too bad - I'm part of the system now. I may as well have a barcode on my forehead. When I had no bank account, I cashed my paychecks at the bank from which the paycheck was drawn. It always worked, and no fingerprints or anything else required but did need to show a D.L. But again, this was about the year 2000 and prior. I did get occasional hesitation from the teller and a strange look when I told her I didn't have a bank account anywhere. So I don't know what it would be like today except that I think a thumbprint would be required to cash a check. I also know that one is asked to provide their SSN in order to conduct just about any business. I recently went to the chiropractor for the first time in my life. On their new patient form, my SSN was asked as well as my spouses. As usual, I left it blank, and did not get asked about it. I know that on any employment app., no matter how lowly a job, one's SSN is requested. And I know that the last several times I tried to get an auto insurance quote over the phone they insisted on having my SSN. I fought my wife's insistence that I obtain a passport. But I gave in, taking comfort in the notion that if I ever do have to travel outside the country (which my wife will make me do eventually) I really do want to be able to prove that I am a U.S. citizen. Boy, you should have seen the garbage I had to go through to get a copy of my birth cert., so I could then get the passport. I had to dig up things like old utility bills and old driver's licenses and pay check stubs and on and on. Below the radar no more my friend! So my thinking is that it would be a lot more difficult today than it was even ten years ago to live without giving in to the demand for personal information. I can't match your articulation of the gloom and doom of life, Gary, but I feel the same way. I take some sort of thin comfort in the fact that the powers out there are going to know who I am one way or another, so it probably doesn't hurt me to provide this or that little bit of additional information. I can't fight it, so I throw my hands up and shake my head. You know, I am one of those people that take the Bible literally (which seems to put me in an extremist category these days). And I have long known that eventually everyone will be required to accept a mark in order to conduct any business. And with people already voluntarily accepting microchip implantation it is a very interesting time to be
Re: [MBZ] Patriot Politics
on 4/14/08 14:13 Uhr, Sunny Letot at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Um, I'm a little confused. Isee -- clearly -- how we have to give up all manner of personal information to cash a check, buy a home, drive a car, get a job. I see daily how intrusive our government is -- how the banking laws and traffic laws and property rights laws are being steadily amended and eroded to give more power to the government, to found new govenment agencies and grow the ones already in place. I know there are markers in our money that can be 'read' by law enforcement officials at a distance, and we can be stopped and interrogated -- and our cash confiscated -- if we're carrying too much. I agree that it's wrong, and very scary. So exactly WHO was it that came up with the Patriot Act? And who had the majority in the House and Senate to pass it? Who is it that's campaigned long and hard to extend the Act's reach even further into our personal lives and remove all vestige of a presumption of privacy?? That would be George Dubya. Last I heard, he was claimed by the Republicans. The labels are useless. There's not a dime's worth of difference between so-called liberals and so-called conservatives, and even at that, they're fighting over the 10 cents that won't buy any of us a cup of coffee or enough fuel to get us 'round the block Sunny ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com I borrowed money last week. I actually borrowed, secured against my own money. This seemed to satisfy the computer God which has taken all discretionary decisions away from the humans. The little girl (banker) informed me that she would need a current PL statement, etc.. I couldn't help but think some of that money was deposited in my account before she was born. I simply said, I don't think you need that. All you need to know is that the loan and terms are secured. I'm borrowing from myself. The choice is that I just withdraw what I need and close the accounts. Personal information? Maybe I should ask for fingerprints of those people at the bank where I deposit my earnings? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] question for haley and all the anti government nut jobs
on 4/13/08 2:27 Uhr, Jim Cathey at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do i cash checks of the sort that the check cashing places won't cash? So far as I know, if you take it to the bank (or a branch) that it is drawn on they _must_ pay you. A check is a pay order to the bank from the account holder. You are not (or at least were not) required to have an account there in order to receive funds. Somewhere on the check it used to say Pay to the order of X, Y dollars. OK, I'm X and here's my order: pay me! But then the Fascists may have gotten that changed. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com I overheard a transaction at my bank last week. It seems to be a policy that if one doesn't have an account at that bank a fee is charged for cashing a check though it is drawn on them. However, I noted they accepted fingerprints and didn't yet require a DNA sample. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VISA's stupid limit on fuel purchases
Well, then again, I fill at Teague's, like twice a month, go inside and carry on the expected conversation, ..hey, Darlin', Bless your heart. How's everybody been? I catch up on gossip. It'd be just plain rude to fill up without going inside to at least say Hello. They'd think I was upitty or somethin' From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:06:30 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: VISA's stupid limit on fuel purchases Timothy Robinson wrote: If I use a card or debit I go inside to a cashier and don't use pay at the pump. That is the main reason I use cards is for pay at the pump!!! I really dislike diesel stations that don't have pay at the pump... I don't usually want to deal with the extra time and people that it takes to go into the store. Much quicker and simpler to just put the card in, fuel up, and go. My $.02 John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VISA's stupid limit on fuel purchases
It might have something to do with pre-authorizations on pay at pump. I discovered the authorization before pumping last summer was $100. on the diesel pump. Then, the amount of actual purchase is authorized. Sometimes it takes several business days for that first amount to be released. If I use a card or debit I go inside to a cashier and don't use pay at the pump. From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 21:42:30 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: VISA's stupid limit on fuel purchases VISA has evidently set a limit of $50 on pay-at-the-pump fuel transactions. Not hard to hit with diesel at over $4.00 per gallon. Is this everywhere? Or just regional? It's annoying. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: VISA's stupid limit on fuel purchases
I discovered last summer as I was having a problem with fuel tank/sending unit. I ran out of fuel and walked across the street to a station, bought a gallon, drove the car across and filled it. In the process I had two at pump authorizations and two fuel charges totalling four. I got a call during the day from card company suspecting unauthorized use of the card. I actually thought perhaps I'd dropped the card? It was a Friday and it took until the following Tuesday for those authorizations to release. Luckily I didn't get stuck with a declined charge at dinner as in the television commercials. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:25:27 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: VISA's stupid limit on fuel purchases Timothy Robinson wrote: It might have something to do with pre-authorizations on pay at pump. I discovered the authorization before pumping last summer was $100. on the diesel pump. Then, the amount of actual purchase is authorized. Sometimes it takes several business days for that first amount to be released. That wait for the unused authorization to clear is a wonderful way to bounce checks if you use a debit card and don't keep a lot of money in your checking account. People that run near the limit on credit cards can have trouble too, but not as bad as bouncing the rent check because the bank's got a hold on $50 or $75 of their money. Fortunately, I do most of my pay-at-the-pump with a 5% rebate Amex card that has a credit limit large enough to pay for Rentfro's E320, so a few extra transaction approvals don't affect me now. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1985 300D question?
Quick question, guys! Was there a non-turbo 300D in 1985? Am I correct that most of the 1985 model 300D were turbo? Thanks! Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300D question?
That's what I thought. Most of the non-turbo were gray Euros? From: Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:54:48 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300D question? On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 07:49:55PM -0400, Timothy Robinson wrote: Quick question, guys! Was there a non-turbo 300D in 1985? Am I correct that most of the 1985 model 300D were turbo? There were non-turbo euro 300Ds, but they're rather uncommon. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Complete loss of vacuum, OM617
Attached is a .pdf of vacume schematic. From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 11:42:56 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Complete loss of vacuum, OM617 Two weeks ago in changing oil I broke a couple of the plastic tees near the filter canister. I replaced them, but was unable to shut off the engine with the key. Was out of town for a week, and on returning took another drive and I have no vacuum at all. Brakes are very hard like there is no boost at all. ACC blows out the dash vents on all settings. No obvious disconnected vacuum lines or broken tees at this point. My plan of diagnosis is to disconnect everything at the main vacuum line to the brake booster and verify that I have vacuum there. Then reconnect and verify each branch one at a time. I have a mity-vac to help. Does anyone have a link to or scanned documentation of the vacuum line circuitry they could send me? Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pdf Size: 235816 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080324/41b29d7d/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Strange braking motion
I'm paying attention to this post. Suddenly discovered a strage pulling to the left upon braking last night. I'm all ears! (eyes) From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 14:32:37 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Strange braking motion My '83 300D acted like it had a warped rotor when I stopped. I checked all the rotors with a dial indicator and they were all within .001. Found that the left rear axle boot was leaking pretty bad. Could a dry, damaged half axle cause that sort of thing; sort of like a tread separation on a tire would feel? Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and '240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1987 300TD
Not really sure the issues with this car: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The owner is a good guy I talked to on the phone was interested in one of my cars. Instead, he bought a sweet little '86 190D from my indie. I encouraged him, David, to check out the list here, join and maybe discuss the issues with the wagon with you guys. Thanks! Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i see 4 buck a gallon diesel today here in atlanta
There's a positive thought, as I filled at $3.999 (might as well be $4.00) this evening: Craig McC posted the formula: 2.00 So if your gas car gets better than 30 x -- = 20 miles/gallon, 3.00 I'm thinking, I'm gonna drive my old 300D cars even though I'd have to be getting 42 mpg to match the gas/diesel equivalent of a Toyota getting 33 mpg. I just like my old diesels. The positive side is maybe those who only appreciate economy will lose interest in snatching up every decent W123 to become a disposable daily driver. According to the calculation, I'd break even if I was just getting 22 mpg on a gas vehicle. From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:46:55 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] i see 4 buck a gallon diesel today here in atlanta It was 3.84 here last Thursday. 3.99 by Friday. add the 9/10s of a cent and you have 4.00 Diesel. Gas is still 3.08. It is NUTS! It is 12 times the 1973 price. Now if I could make 12 times as much, I'd have no complaint! Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Performance Diesel Mercedes
Kinda like the Baptists visiting our Methodist congregation and asking if they can take an offering? From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 11:31:02 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Performance Diesel Mercedes This is an example of what NOT to do. I am not saying I do not want people posting about other forums on here, but to subscribe and the first post right off the bat is to promote some other forum somewhat hacks me off. The proper thing to do would be to first contact the list admin (me) and ask permission to post something like this. Kaleb Rolf wrote: Hello, Sorry to spam a bit but I am trying go the the good word out about http://superturbodiesel.com/ Its a community forum with no retail ambitions for the purpose of discussing engine/drivetrain and suspension modifications for any diesel Mercedes. Currently our members (all 12 of them) are all 123 owners but many of the theories and applications work for any of the OM series engines and any diesel in general. Discussed are auto-manual transmission swaps, turbo upgrades, pump modifications and more advanced diesel maintenance. If you are passionate about your diesel and interested in even mild improvements, come on by and check it out. We are looking for article writers, if you've done something noteworthy or have input lets hear it. That being said it's nice to find another mailing list to waste work hours on :) -Rolf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dryer repair advice
Same situation I just fixed for an old friend. His (oold White Westinghouse) dryer... close the door and you could hear the motor running but when I opened the door, held button and pressed start, the drum wasn't turning with a load. The belt obviously was worn out. New belt is about $11.00 and pretty simple to replace. Usually you open access on rear of a dryer to the drive motor which has an spring loaded idler pulley. Open top of dryer and remove screws holding the front panel. The drum usually rides on sleeves (felt and plastic which often wear out causing failure). Slip the belt around the drum from front and reassemble. Locate belt around the drum and then around motor drive shaft at the rear. It's not a bad $11.00 repair which will delay replacing dryer if everything else is in reasonable condition. Usually if there's a problem with timer or temp sensor it's not worth the expense of the part for an old dryer. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:04:55 -0400 To: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com, Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] dryer repair advice i bought my house in outstanding condition. it was owned by an old woman who paid to keep up every element of the property. like many old school people, however, she never replaced anything, but fixed stuff. so everything on the house is about 30 years old. i sent the kid down to the garage to take my clothes out of the dryer. she reported them still wet. so i told her add time. and hour later, still wet. add more time. an hour later, still wet. so now i go investigate. turns out the cylinder no longer spins and my limited wardrobe is soaked 1. does this sound like an easy fix? 2. does this sound like a fix i ought not undertake but should hire someone to do for me? 3. does it sound insane to fix a 30 year old dryer, so just throw it out and get another one? 4. do i just convince my mom to get me some ventless combination washer/dryer and just keep it in the kitchen and shut down the wasteful large garage setup? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Only driven to church on Sundays
Last Fall at end of season a sweet little snowbird approached me and said, You know, I have a car like those you drive in my garage at home. It was my husband's... ...I should sell it as it's never driven, but no one would want a car with such high mileage. Come to find out, she was concerned that the mileage was approaching 100K. I asked the sweet little lady if she decided to sell would she let me know first and I would promise to make a fair offer to her. I have yet to see the car. (Her winter home is four hours away.) The little lady called yesterday asking if I was still interested in the car. She's decided she will sell before coming back to the mountains for the season. She'd had the car service my the local Benz dealer. Since it had sat in the garage for the winter she also had the car detailed. She was upset that it looked like some of the varnish (clearcoat) was coming off of the trunk lid. Otherwise she describes the car as flawless. She was terrible upset to discover the car actually had over 100,000 miles... still she can't recall exactly, 106K, 126K? I'm not sure and she wouldn't know the difference if it is a turbo or not. I belive from her description that it is a non-turbo and possibly a gray market Euro import. Again, I haven't seen the car. Anyone want to fill me in as to the difference in the 1984 300D (turbo) and a Euro import 300D (non-turbo)? As far as price, I think she and I both have around $3,000. in mind. If it indeed is quite clean and flawless I would trust her sight unseen. As original and one owner... 'couldn't be too wrong. Thanks! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Only driven to church on Sundays
Again, I haven't seen the car yet. The little widow lady keeps saying it's an import perhaps meaning, it wasn't an American (is a German) car. I don't know if she knows what gray market would be. Apparently her husband did purchase the vehicle new from a MB dealer so I can't imagine it wasn't US specs. I don't think it's real leather probably means the MB Tex interior. From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:07:39 -0700 (PDT) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1984 300D Only driven to church on Sundays If it's a Euro a lot will depend on who did the compliance work at the port, but you can figure that it will probably have cloth/velour upholstery, might have roll up windows (not a bad thing) and if you're really living right, a manual climate control system. Other than that I don't think you'll find much different from a US spec model. Dan --- Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone want to fill me in as to the difference in the 1984 300D (turbo) and a Euro import 300D (non-turbo)? __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: about the coolest thing I've seen in awhile
I'd like to find one of those cast iron Lister type diesel engines. I saw some on the web imported from India? That would be kewl to use in a generator setup. Anyone know a source? From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 13:09:41 -0800 (PST) To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: about the coolest thing I've seen in awhile http://otherpower.com/steamengine.shtml Where does one get a $150 steam engine? If I ever decide its time to live at camp full time something like this would be the best thing since sliced bread... -Curt - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lease-to-Own
I bought a house once with a lease to own arrangement. All of the terms were spelled out including the purchase price should I want to exercise my option. The property increase in value and I actually sold my contract to an interested buyer. I made the gain on the property, market value above what my option price was. Needless to say the owner was furious. From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:13:28 -0800 (PST) To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - Lease-to-Own Anyone here ever sell a home/property using a lease to own agreement? If so, drop me a note off list, please. Thanks, Dan __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Lease-to-Own
In my case, Dan, I was young and paid in earnest a ridiculously generous amount with the contract (realtor submitted). The owner was banking on the fact that I wouldn't be able to secure financing for that type of house in the twenty-four month term of the lease option. In other words, she was counting on my forfeiting that amount at the expiriation of the lease. I, on the other hand knew the house had been on a slow market for a long period of time and the seller was cash poor as she had another house she really wanted on a contingiency. The purchase price we had set on the option was ridiculously low. I was gambling on the fact that an out of town couple had looked at the house several times (two doctors planning to relocate to the area) and simply were waiting to make an offer on the house. My lease option actually took it off the market. That couple approached me within a month begging me to sell the house to them. I did, at full price. They paid me the difference and assumed my option to purchase at the previously agreed price. That's why I say the owner was furious with me for I sold at the full price within a month. I netted a $35,000. gain in the month. Selling the option was quite similar to any other real estate transaction as it involved a closing. I recall that I had just filled the oil tank for the steam boiler. Fuel oil was something like $0.89 a gallon at the time. At closing I was paid $2,600. for the measure of fuel in the tank. (Wonder if people take such thing into consideration now? Today it would cost $9,800. to fill that tank. To heat that old barn required over two tanks per season. On subject of lease/option to buy, usually you establish what would be fair market value for rent and the excess payment is applied toward a down payment. It used to be a creative way for an owner to sell a hard to move property and was a way for a buyer to get into a property and accumulate an amount of equity to qualify for a mortgage. Usually that additional amount was forfeited if the option wasn't exercised within the term set forth. (similar to open end auto lease). There were also some tax benefits for the seller as the term of the lease the property could be treated as rental property and the sale price (exercise price) was often lower so capital gains were less on paper. I don't think lease/options are as common today as they were in the early 1980s when interest rates were so high. From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:54:38 -0800 (PST) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Lease-to-Own Thanks, Tim. How much of premium above what would have been considered normal rent did you pay, and how long was the lease for? Laws vary by state, as in some you cannot sell or transfer your interest as the lessor. You were lucky to do so. Dan --- Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I bought a house once with a lease to own arrangement. All of the terms were spelled out including the purchase price should I want to exercise my option. The property increase in value and I actually sold my contract to an interested buyer. I made the gain on the property, market value above what my option price was. Needless to say the owner was furious. From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:13:28 -0800 (PST) To: Okie Benz mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT - Lease-to-Own Anyone here ever sell a home/property using a lease to own agreement? If so, drop me a note off list, please. Thanks, Dan __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: about the coolest thing I've seen in awhile
www.centralmainediesel.com Thanks Dan! Actually, I found this site. The project I didn't quite get to this winter, maybe by next Fall. Keep thinking this thing would be ideal to burn some of the gallons WVO that I'm up to my neck in but chose not to use in the cars. From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 15:52:47 -0800 (PST) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: about the coolest thing I've seen in awhile Lister diesels are built by Lister-Petter, a manufacturer of small displacement diesel engines located in the UK. Lister is the heavy-duty cast-iron side of the business, while Petter is the aluminum block throw-away side. HawkPower is the brand name for their gensets. Listers are big, heavy, very spartan and expensive, but they are easily 10,000 hour engines if not more. I used to work for a L-P distributor, and we regularly saw Listers well in excess of 5000 hours that were still in fantastic operating shape. Long before the advent of solar panels, the Petter single cylinder diesel engine was the hands-down favorite of the highway sign board (those flashing arrow construction signs) business. Petter had a spec that was built especially for this industry. It consisted of a single cylinder Petter diesel belt driving a Delco 12V alternator. The signs ran off of 12V batteries that were charged by the Petter. 3,000 hours was the MTBF, and by that time they were usually scrapped. They were under $1000 with this setup, and Petter did such a business selling them that they even had a buy-back program where we would take them on trade for new ones. The idea was that they didn't want end-users rebuilding them... I could also tell you stories of single cylinder Listers couples to Leroy-Somers alternators that we used to ship into Africa welded into 55 gallon drums. We also welded a chisel on the outside for the receiver to use to get the drum open.. these were hand crank units with no electricals, too. Kraft Power, one of my former clients located in Boston (Woburn, to be exact) is a L-P distributor. Owen Duffy is the owner - nice guy. Dan --- Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to find one of those cast iron Lister type diesel engines. I saw some on the web imported from India? That would be kewl to use in a generator setup. Anyone know a source? __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: about the coolest thing I've seen in awhile
I think the India imports (Listeroids) are the copy of the Brit version which was discontinued in the early 80s. What I like most about these is the quiet and long life are due to the slow, like 650 RPM. I think the Petter units are faster RPM. From what I've read the Indian manufacturing quality is lacking much by our expectations. Seems like you acquire the new Indian unit then basically rebuild and machine it. From: Christopher Kueny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 19:52:31 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: about the coolest thing I've seen in awhile Listers are now almost exclusively imported from India. I think the Brits stopped making them. Wouldn't mind being corrected tho. (www.utterpower.com ) Chris On Mar 8, 2008, at 6:52 PM, LWB250 wrote: Lister diesels are built by Lister-Petter, a manufacturer of small displacement diesel engines located in the UK. Lister is the heavy-duty cast-iron side of the business, while Petter is the aluminum block throw-away side. HawkPower is the brand name for their gensets. Listers are big, heavy, very spartan and expensive, but they are easily 10,000 hour engines if not more. I used to work for a L-P distributor, and we regularly saw Listers well in excess of 5000 hours that were still in fantastic operating shape. Long before the advent of solar panels, the Petter single cylinder diesel engine was the hands-down favorite of the highway sign board (those flashing arrow construction signs) business. Petter had a spec that was built especially for this industry. It consisted of a single cylinder Petter diesel belt driving a Delco 12V alternator. The signs ran off of 12V batteries that were charged by the Petter. 3,000 hours was the MTBF, and by that time they were usually scrapped. They were under $1000 with this setup, and Petter did such a business selling them that they even had a buy-back program where we would take them on trade for new ones. The idea was that they didn't want end-users rebuilding them... I could also tell you stories of single cylinder Listers couples to Leroy-Somers alternators that we used to ship into Africa welded into 55 gallon drums. We also welded a chisel on the outside for the receiver to use to get the drum open.. these were hand crank units with no electricals, too. Kraft Power, one of my former clients located in Boston (Woburn, to be exact) is a L-P distributor. Owen Duffy is the owner - nice guy. Dan --- Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to find one of those cast iron Lister type diesel engines. I saw some on the web imported from India? That would be kewl to use in a generator setup. Anyone know a source? _ ___ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] vacuum pump-down time?
Are we talking about a 300D? Attached is a .pdf file of the 123 vacume schematic. Someone either posted this last November or I downloaded it from one of the sites. T From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 08:21:23 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacuum pump-down time? There used to be a vacuum diagram on the net (petersmidt) but his domain has expired. There should be a vac diagram in your WSM - which should help - -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pdf Size: 235816 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080307/e6001bce/attachment.pdf ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] REVERSE MORTGAGE
My grandmother passed last June. When my grandfather died in 1986 she planned ahead and had her attorney arrange a living trust. Basically, her two daughters were added to the deeds but she maintained control during her lifetime. None could mortgage, sell or transfer. The benefit was that this real property was excluded from her estate. In the last years of her life it wasn't considered an asset with regard to Medicare benefits. Upon her death it passed directly to the two daughters. Probate was a simple matter in that as all of her final expenses were paid the liquid assets were divided. Her greatest concern was that she might end up in a nursing facility, the expense of which might exhaust her resources and consume the property. She wanted to shelter the value of the real property should that have been the case. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, job hunt
Maybe it was those early years in college when I worked as a night auditor? I adjusted well to 11-7AM. I'm NOT a morning person. To this day when there's a project I need to focus on without interruption, doing taxes, writing a score, doing a schematic, on goes the pot of coffee and I'm in the office until sunrise. I can't focus on those things human hours, 9-5. From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 21:09:05 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, job hunt I tried the 11pm to 7am shift when I was in my 20s - it almost killed me. Couldn't make the adjustment. I was sick more that year than any in my life. My wife worked that shift for a few years while the kids were little - it did not help family life at all. My neighbor across the street has been working it for years and loves it - so it all depends. I have worked midnights for five years now. It sucks... Caveats, YMMV My 2¢ Rick Knoble '85 300 CD '87 190 DT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel price today
Last fuel purchase was 01/26 @$3.2597 per gallon on the daily driver '85 300D. At my routine 14 miles per day and accumulated 468 miles on the odometer, I figured I'd beat the little reserve warning light and fill today. Price at the pump was $3.699. $0.44 up in a month? When did that happen? I decided to digest that and wait until this evening to fill. I stopped at a station closer into town, expecting perhaps a higher price since it was at a main exit to I-40. Fuel was $3.459 per gallon, $0.24 cheaper. (My Pall Mall non-filters were $4.79 instead of $3.38 so any fuel savings were lost in the convenience of buying cigs at that stop.) So much for driving 30 miles to save a nickle on a loap of bread! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT We are in trouble
A friend with Delta forwrded this today for amusement: A Washington, DC, airport ticket agent offers some examples of why our country is in trouble! 1. I had a New Hampshire Congresswoman ask for an aisle seat so that her hair wouldn't get messed up by being near the window. (On an airplane!) 2. I got a call from a candidate's staffer, who wanted to go to Cape Town. I started to explain the length of the flight and the passport information, and then she interrupted me with, I'm not trying to make you look stupid, but Capetown is in Massachusetts. Without trying to make her look stupid, I calmly explained, Cape Cod is in Massachusetts, Cape town is in Africa.² Her response - click. 3. A senior Vermont Congressman called, furious about a Florida package we did. I asked what was wrong with the vacation in Orlando. He said he was expecting an ocean-view room. I tried to explain that's not possible, since Orlando is in the middle of the state. He replied, Don't lie to me, I looked on the map and Florida is a very thin state! (OMG 4. I got a call from a lawmaker's wife who asked, Is it possible to see England from Canada? I said, No. She said, But they look so close on the map. (OMG, again!) 5. An aide for a cabinet member once called and asked if he could rent a car in Dallas. When I pulled up the reservation, I noticed he had only a 1-hour layover in Dallas. When I asked him why he wanted to rent a car, he said, I heard Dallas was a big airport, and we will need a car to drive between gates to save time. (Ag) 6. An Illinois Congresswoman called last week. She needed to know how it was possible that her flight from Detroit left at8:30 are got to Chicago at 8:33 am. I explained that Michigan was an hour ahead of Illinois, but she couldn't understand the concept of time zones. Finally, I told her the plane went fast, and she bought that. 7. A New York lawmaker called and asked, Do airlines put your physical description on your bag so they know whose luggage belongs to whom? I said, No, why do you ask? She replied, Well, when I checked in with the airline, they put a tag on my luggage that said (FAT), and I'm overweight. I think that's very rude! After putting her on hold for a minute while I looked into it (I was laughing). I came back and explained the city code for Fresno, CA is (FAT - Fresno Air Terminal), and the airline was just putting a destination tag on her luggage. 8. A Senator's aide called to inquire about a trip package to Hawaii. After going over all the cost info, she asked, Would it be cheaper to fly to California, and then take the train to Hawaii?² 9. I just got off the phone with a freshman Congressman who asked, How do I know which plane to get on? I asked him what exactly he meant, to which he replied, I was told my flight number is 823, but none of these planes have numbers on them. 10. A lady Senator called and said, I need to fly to Pepsi-Cola, Florida. Do I have to get on one of those little computer planes? I asked if she meant fly to Pensacola, Fl. on a commuter plane. She said, Yeah, whatever, smarty! 11. A senior Senator called and had a question about the documents he needed in order to fly to China. After a lengthy discussion about passports, I reminded him that he needed a visa. Oh, no I don't. I've been to China many times and never had to have one of those. I double checked and sure enough, his stay required a visa. When I told him this he said, Look, I've been to China four times and every time they have accepted my American Express! 12. A New Mexico Congresswoman called to make reservations, I want to go from Chicago to Rhino, New York. I was at a loss for words. Finally, I said, Are you sure that's the name of the town? Yes, what flights do you have? replied the lady. After some searching, I came back with, I'm sorry, ma'am, I've looked up every airport code in the country and can't find a Rhino anywhere. The lady retorted, Oh, don't be silly! Everyone knows where it is. Check your map! So I scoured a map of the state of New York and finally offered, You don't mean Buffalo, do you? The reply? Whatever! I knew it was a big animal. Now you know why the Government is in the shape that it's in! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System
I believe that war was more about tariffs and state's rights. Slavery was an issue used to sell it... probably like our current War on Terror. From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:53:13 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System Are there still reasonable people (emphasis) who believe the South should won the war to continue the practice of slavery? If so, I would be amazed to find any such on this list. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:47 PM, Kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More of a tenth amendment/states rights issue. Both sides of that war undertook a lot of revisionist history to make the other side seem more evil. On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 04:49:35PM -0600, R A Bennell wrote: Ugh, would that be the freedom to own slaves?? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:40 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Our Political System Lincoln?? I must be missing something. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wood key tops
Beautiful work!! (Takin' orders? :) From: wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 19:24:26 -0500 To: mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Wood key tops Here are photos of black walnut key top I made coupla months ago. Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
Used to have a 'lil girlfriend who's family own a chicken farm. She often talked about getting the Tyson check. Wasn't pleasant dinner conversation to hear her talk of how when she was a toddler how proficient she became at debeaking chicks. A few decades ago a Tyson processing plant in Hamlet, NC made national news when a hydraulic line burst and caused a fire. Several employees (mostly Hispanic, some illegal) were burnt alive in the fire because the emergency exits had been chained closed. Seems the plant management had done that to prevent employee theft of some of the processed chicken. From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 21:18:46 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens Store chickens are not happy chickens. They are more like crack whore chickens forced to pop out eggs under duress. My father-in-law was general manager (now retired) at Wilcox Farms, a family-owned crack-hen-whore outfit that supplies milk and eggs to Costco here in WA. I've been on the tour. No duress or force is applied. Spent hens go to Campbell's. One of his favorite stories about how smart chickens are is from once when they were inoculating chickens. Easy way was to move the chicken one cage over as you went down the line. That way you didn't forget where you left off. After they did this the chickens all stopped laying, etc. Turns out they were thirsting to death. Couldn't figure out that the water was now on the other side of the cage. (Two spigots out of a waterer at the corner of every other cage.) They shifted the chickens back over one cage and all was well again. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens
About 10 years ago I had this bright idea to become Ole MacDonald. I ordered chicks, never to pass up a bargain, what was I thinking to order 100? Received 103 of three breeds by USPS. That first week a blizzard struck and was without power, still didn't lose one. They were amusing. I actually made pets out of them having socialized since they were chicks. I let them free range in the back pasture. My chow (dog) became very protective of them and herded them, fending off other critters. I set up an electric fence, not to keep them but as a safety zone for them. Soon that area was void of any grass. I couldn't go outside without my pet rooster perching on my shoulder. They began laying eggs underneath the garage where they roosted... I had this aversion to eggs not out of a carton and mental images kept me from collecting them. Soon I had young additions to the flock. Then came the bald eagle which each morning swooped down and selected his daily meal. Squawk!! I felt like I was living in a cartoon. That rooster knew just where my bedroom window was when he began to crow at daybreak. He would perch on the open sill. I eventually found homes for all of the birds. From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:08:58 -0600 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens I like chickens, they taste good. They are also incredibly stupid - from first hand observation - inlaws used to raise them. They are also incredibly dirty - also from first hand observation - inlaws had a dog. Tom www.kegkits.com - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: 2/26/08 2:59 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Chickens I was driving in the countryside of NC last week, and there were 2 roosters up ahead of me, one on either side of the road, appeared to be squaring off on each other.. I was thinking, just about the time I get there one of them is going to decide to cross the road (and I asked Why?), Sho'nuff, just as I got to them, one darted right out in front of me. I swerved just enough to miss having a fresh chicken dinner. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.1/1299 - Release Date: 2/26/2008 9:08 AM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem
When my turn signals get funky I just flash the hazard switch (like at that moment when I'm signaling...it's become a quick habit) and they begin to work immediately. Only happens once every few weeks. I suppose I should clean or replace that switch. From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 16:48:12 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 Turn Signal Problem Any input is appreciated. ;-) Thx -- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] debit, noooo...
I learned a quick lesson decades ago (college trip) travelling with AMEX Travelers' Cheques. It was difficult to cash them or have them accepted in many places. Forget waiting at a hotel desk with dozens of other students each wanting to cash a $50. Those were the days before ATM terminals and debit cards were invented. My problem with debit cards is that restaurants or fuel pumps which pre-authorize can often tie funds up for several business days. The local pay at pump pre-authorization amount for diesel is $100.00. One Friday I filled two of the cars. That evening I used a debt card as I took the cast out for a meal. As a result I had the actual fuel and meal charges PLUS two $100. fuel authorizations and the pre-tip authorization from the restaurant. That was $500. in funds frozen until the following Tuesday. That could have been a problem had I been travelling and relying only on the use of the debit card. I DO write checks for purchases at regular local stores. The grocery, Auto Zone, the barber... most of them just take the check, run it through their machine which reads the transit numbers and initiates an electronic debit. They return the voided check to you right then. No problem, no delay. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:01:10 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] debit, n... Screwed when you buy, then again to unload what you don't spend, and contrary to what they say, not everyone will accept them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W220 rust - now new MB's and $$$
My boss is actually the guy who represents the company and who's signs my contract. Today we were talking and he says, Why don't you buy a new Mercedes? Obviously you like the cars. My response (we've just negotiated the next season's contract), ...Then I'd be like you, so deep in debt with your leased car and adjustable rate mortgage that I'd have to agree to just any number you threw at me as I would need the income. Instead I drive these old Mercedes that are paid for and have the luxury of turning down a contract if I don't like the terms. That is why I actually have the advantage which could afford me a new car. From: Bill R [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 23:52:14 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W220 rust - now new MB's and $$$ A friend deals with car/train accidents for a major RR. He said I would not believe the number of new and late model MB's [and other high end cars] that suddenly develop engine problems causing them to stop in front of a train - just after the person making the payments loses a job. Yes, many people who buy/lease a new MB can't afford them. BillR -Original Message- From: Dimitri Seretakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 2/23/08 10:02 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W220 rust I still shop at Sears, and I would still buy a new MB. That doesn't mean that I can afford to buy a new MB. Many people who by new Mercedes today cannot afford them as many people who buy houses today also can't afford them. This is a consumer oriented nation. We are all stretched beyond our means. Dimitri --- Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks who can afford to own a new Benz do not shop at Sears. They hire folks to shop for them. A new S Class Benz is priced about at what I paid for my house a couple of years ago. On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i figure the only people who would consider buying a new mercedes are the people still shopping at places like sears. stupid, lost, addled by substance abuse, etc. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com __ __ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1988 190-E - Questions please.
Thanks for everyone's input. Further contact with seller reveals a litany of issues with the car. One being that the 105K miles was when the thingie broke several years ago. The car also had a problem overheating but we think we had that fixed... My local indy said that 2.6 6cyl 190E was a headache so I trust him. Instead, found a 1986 190D with manual trans. That should be a better bet? Thanks again all! Tim From: hursley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:24:36 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1988 190-E - Questions please. Mine is a 1993 (end of the model year) with 142K miles. Typical local gas mileage is about 20 and on highway is 27 and runs on premium gas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel
Just noticed today, $3.599 for diesel. Last I filled a few weeks ago was $3.349. From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:10:51 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Whoa look at the price of fuel Jim Cathey wrote: Refinery fire the other day in Texas (?). Talking head said that it was actually a pretty small refinery, but that the market would probably react disproportionately. I'm sure gas prices shot up in speculation, not due to any actual shortage in supply. What I like is when the price of crude jumps in response to a reduced ability to refine it. Totally bassackwards, but that's the way it always seems to go. The senseless jumps in crude are usually shortable, april contracts are back down to 98.55 already. $1450 a contract for going short at $100 isn't a huge gain, but it makes a nice day's pay. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week
hmm (0) feedback score 50% Let's send a cashiers check to Memphis! From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:33:09 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] ebay description of the week more description now. That knocking is a rod about to let go. dave walton wrote: Looks like a decent car - except for the engine. I would not plan on driving it any distance before pulling the head. -Dave Walton On Feb 18, 2008 8:13 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-Beautiful-350SDL-in-mem phis_W0QQitemZ160209517395QQihZ006QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1988 190-E - Questions please.
There's a 1988 190-E for sale locally. Description is clean but don't have all the particulars except mileage is 180K, automatic. I'm not familiar with the gassers. Trying to help my boss find an economical car for his son. Anyone wanna give me advice about this model? What to look fo/out for? What to expect? Typical economy and routine costs? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light?
One click counter clockwise from OFF position is right parking, two clicks CCW is left. DUH! I was looking for the fuse until I realised those directional parking lamps only work when the ignition is OFF. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:11:08 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 vent light? To be honest, I'm still trying to figure out how to turn those one. Is it one turn on the light switch to the left, and then use the turn signal stock to indicate the side you want to activate ? Ed 300E ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash
That was the birthday present I gave to Vitalliy, the great lil Ukrainian kid who used to work for me. A very talented and resourceful guy, I asked him to label some equipment, Caution - High Voltage. He asked, Timmeke, what is this word caution meaning? I explained and he said, OK, it will be like the piece of cake. I arrived at the site the next day to see a brightly lettered sign, You Touch, You Die! From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:45:22 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Was Early 70s 200Ds, 220Ds, now Road Rash In fact this summer I'm considering jumping out of a perfectly good airplane for pretty much the same reason. -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 80824 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20080212/6d7f5653/attachment.jpe ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A 220D at the grocery...
This evening I escaped driving west in the setting sun and traffic to check out the 4#/$1.00 sale on cabbage at BiLo Grocery... Anyway, as I parked I noticed the attention of an older guy in the parking lot. He reminded me of a picture I've seen posted here of the good Dr. Marshall Booth. The old gentleman complimented my car saying how good the diesel sounded. When I glanced behind me I had no doubt that the old gentleman belonged to the immaculate 1974 220D. We stood in the parking past sunset talking of cars and the coincidence that the old hermit lives near my parents. I invited him to attend services sometime at the lil Methodist church some Sunday. Mr. Ernie is 87 y/o, a retired Navy pilot. He bought the 1974 (Harvest beige? Sand beige?) 220D from a retired doctor for $3,000 about 12 years ago. It had about 65,000 miles on it, now 120,000. We discovered a mutual admiration of the same indy mechanics, Gary and son, Todd. The car was amazing. There wasn't a mar on the perfect interior. The exterior was only slightly aged with a few blemishes on the chrome from a hail storm. (The old guy's eyesight must be better than mine. I could see a flaw.) The car had manual windows, manual transmission and the manual glow plug/starter. Other than regular oil changes and valve adjustment, Ernie said the only other repair he's done to the car in twelve years was to buy two tires. When we parted and I went into the grocery the ole feller made a loop around the parking lot and zoomed by me just like a teenager showing out. Wonder if he'd swap cars? T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A 220D at the grocery...
I kinda got an idea that he's not into computers/internet... I know he's a no cell phone kinda guy and I know where he lives remotely on the mountain there is no CATV. Maybe if I've a change to talk to him again I'll ask and suggest? From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2008 18:46:50 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A 220D at the grocery... Did you tell him to sign up here? Timothy Robinson wrote: This evening I escaped driving west in the setting sun and traffic to check out the 4#/$1.00 sale on cabbage at BiLo Grocery... Anyway, as I parked I noticed the attention of an older guy in the parking lot. He reminded me of a picture I've seen posted here of the good Dr. Marshall Booth. The old gentleman complimented my car saying how good the diesel sounded. When I glanced behind me I had no doubt that the old gentleman belonged to the immaculate 1974 220D. We stood in the parking past sunset talking of cars and the coincidence that the old hermit lives near my parents. I invited him to attend services sometime at the lil Methodist church some Sunday. Mr. Ernie is 87 y/o, a retired Navy pilot. He bought the 1974 (Harvest beige? Sand beige?) 220D from a retired doctor for $3,000 about 12 years ago. It had about 65,000 miles on it, now 120,000. We discovered a mutual admiration of the same indy mechanics, Gary and son, Todd. The car was amazing. There wasn't a mar on the perfect interior. The exterior was only slightly aged with a few blemishes on the chrome from a hail storm. (The old guy's eyesight must be better than mine. I could see a flaw.) The car had manual windows, manual transmission and the manual glow plug/starter. Other than regular oil changes and valve adjustment, Ernie said the only other repair he's done to the car in twelve years was to buy two tires. When we parted and I went into the grocery the ole feller made a loop around the parking lot and zoomed by me just like a teenager showing out. Wonder if he'd swap cars? T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Otter/Beaver
It's late. I read Kenmore... Sears is turning out what? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2008 00:14:38 EST To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Otter/Beaver Love the Ferrari and the Otter behind the Speedster That's a you-should-excuse-the-expression DHC Beaver. Kenmore Air Harbor (largest seaplane base in the continental US) turns out brand new ones using ex-military fuselages from the '40s. Near a million bucks now, I hear. They also have a fleet of turbine Otters that fly in scheduled service from Kenmore and downtown Seattle to the San Juans and up into Canada daily. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A 220D at the grocery...
NAW.. no cabbage rolls tonight. Russian Prison Soup for the weekend. From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 22:21:52 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] A 220D at the grocery... Holy freekin' CABBAGE ROLLS for supper! (Veggie, of course.) On Feb 8, 2008 6:39 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This evening I escaped driving west in the setting sun and traffic to check out the 4#/$1.00 sale on cabbage at BiLo Grocery... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] High mileage badges [was Re: It's a plot]
hm... the badge, a perfect thing to hide the little toothless place on the grill? From: Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 20:17:52 -0700 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] High mileage badges [was Re: It's a plot] Hi all, For Hi Mileage Badges from MBUSA, there is no verification needed. One need only call Montvale (1-800-FOR-MERCEDES (1-800-367-6372)) and ask about the program. You will be mailed the application, complete it and return it. Not sure about MB Canada. Chuck w/a 250,000 km badge on my 500E. On Feb 8, 2008, at 2:57 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote: God luck in getting one. On Feb 8, 2008 4:51 PM, E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mine was dealer serviced up until late last when I bought it, and so far, I have records for all the bits and pieces I've bought from the dealer. So I should be good for one badge anyway, although I'm sure if I mounted one, it would just be stolen. lol Ed 300E On 08/02/2008, R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, do you have to prove with records of some sort or do they take your word for it? I guess I have to start at the beginning as my 76 only had 990 miles on the odometer when I got it in 1995. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Landenberger Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 2:09 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] High mileage badges [was Re: It's a plot] Ed, 250,000 kilometers, 500,000 kilometers 1,000,000 kilometers. I'll leave the conversion to miles to you Take care, Chuck On Feb 8, 2008, at 12:08 PM, E M wrote: At what mileage do they start issuing them? Ed 300E 365,000 kms. __ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My next activity
You know, I so agree! I'm so frustrated by events in the news, fiscal budget, politics... I wonder if my vote is worth the effort and fuel to show up at the polls. I do know that the biggest impact I can have is to be a good steward of resources, my own finances and 'Earth.' It's for that reason that I'm most adamant about my old MBs. They should outlive my needs. AND... I find it ironic that I'm the one most often called upon when the friend or neighbor needs reliable transportation as their new (financed) vehicle didn't serve them. Probably the best legacy to leave is the smallest footprint. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 18:55:04 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My next activity I read an article, written back in the 80s I think, that said in the UK, the energy used to manufacture a new car was equal to driving the then average new car about 50,000 miles, if my memory serves me. It was from an old car mag, and they were trying to make the point of how restoring an old car, even though it used more fuel and no emissions equipment, was still easier on the earth than junking it, and buying new ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment
So now you're good at it, Glenn, you gonna hep me? LOL From: Glenn Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 19:33:58 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Valve adjustment I spent all afternoon doing a valve adjustment on my '84 300D, thank goodness it was 72F and I could work with the garage door open. 1st time I've done this by myself, what a bear . . . G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] slow starter
I like this Wonko guy! From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:53:09 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow starter My observation over the past several years has been that individuals on this list -- by definition, mostly Old Benz owners -- have several things in common: a quick wit, a well developed and often warped sense of humor, and the ability to think outside of the box. Give us a box of crayons and we will use the wax sticks to build a model of a 6.9 Benz. Then color it with the sole remaining silver crayon. An amazing percentage have advanced university degrees, up to and including PhD. I am not among the later group. I have eight years in university classrooms and a B.A. to show for it. The overwhelming majority of those who never darkened the door of a college classroom all seem to have a Doctorate from the International School of Hard Knocks and Bloody Knuckles. We are but a winning team waiting for the right television quiz show. (I will take W115 heater cores for $1000, Alex.) On Feb 5, 2008 9:34 PM, Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You beat me to that -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Wonko the Sane Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 8:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] slow starter Let me guess -- you then had to take the Last Train To Clarksville? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Train_to_Clarksville -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment
My indies, Gary and son, Todd... first time I took the car into their shop, Todd snaps on these rectal exam gloves and said, What seems to be the problem? It's a running joke now... but they do perform repairs with those latex gloves to keep their hands clean. I made some joke about, Fist... well... I found out they were quite reasonable and they discovered I had a warped sense of humor. From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 20:29:12 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment 1st time I've done this by myself, what a bear I call it bonding. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My next activity
OY... I LIVE on my alfalfa sprouts. A diet of those, wheat grass, carrot from the juicer and cabbage (Russian Prison Diet ...soup) and see if you can bring tears to others' eyes in an elevator! Gonna figure out how to plug my a$$ in for methane... maybe could drive to the mailbox? From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:39:18 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My next activity Four of my five workdays, I leave diesels (plural) in the garage and walk to work. That doesn't mean I don't pollute the atmosphere. As a veggie I eat lots of beans, and the one mile walk to work gets the digestive process working, and ... :-( ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment
I gotta get on the ball... send soap to OKDon like I promised and mail that Beta to Phillip in MO... THEN... I might send a box of my soap to Kaleb and let ask him to toss a bar of the homemade lye soap in with each order so you can all marvel at it's wonders of cutting grease! It hasn't been tested on animals, just humans... but no complaint in my thirty years of makin' it. From: Kevin Kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:06:46 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Valve adjustment I like the latex glove idea since I have a few pairs lying around the house. That last valve adjustment got my hands quite greasy (wouldnt be surprised if there was still some under my fingernails two years later :D)! I haven't gotten around to doing the job on the '83 'SD, and my wrenches are still buried somewhere deep within! Kevin in Hillsboro, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My next activity
I resume walking 7 miles per day each March to get ready for the summer routine. Asked an old friend if he still had that Schwinn for sale and he said, You!? That's an expensive bike just to ride to work... It's not about workout. I figure each year if I don't have a stroke or heart attack from winter hibernation I'm ready for the next season. Funny thing, the kids can't keep pace with me on that 3mi. up the mountain every morning and I smoke. They're supposed to be dancers? From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 23:13:38 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] My next activity I was telling a co-worker just today: In the last six months I've returned to a vegetarian diet (w/ eggs and dairy and seafood), stopped drinking coffee as of last Friday morning -- replaced by Celestial Seasonings tea, taking vitamins, and am exercising for fun rather than as an obligation. ... And, if I start hand-grinding wheat to make bread, I am then right back to my late '70s lifestyle. ... I even plan to bike to work (pedal, not roar-roar -- the motorcycle stays in the garage, too) come warm weather. I could start pumping iron and once again bench press my own body weight, like I did in the early 80s uh, no. Of course, in the '70s I was running 5 miles a day -- but given my knees and hips in my mid 50s, walking 5 miles would be a painful workout. But, the bike theme remains. In the late 70s, I commuted to work (10 miles each way) on my super-light $1800 Trek bike. Same bike is still in the garage, waiting for spring. D. On Feb 5, 2008 11:01 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OY... I LIVE on my alfalfa sprouts. A diet of those, wheat grass, carrot from the juicer and cabbage (Russian Prison Diet ...soup) and see if you can bring tears to others' eyes in an elevator! -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil change, etc.
When I need escape I go to my grandparents' house (they're long gone) and I sleep listening to the old grandfather clock ticking away. It doesn't take long to adjust to the quarter hour chimes and remember security of decades ago. Rain on the tin roof doesn't hurt either. Dad's got an old Western Union master clock in his den. He procurred it when he closed a telegraph office years ago. The pendulum contains something like 75# of mercury for weight? I like to sit by the fire reading and hearing the old springs rewind (power supply instead of the old dry cell batteries). All about as comforting as the sweet sound of an OM617. From: E M [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 22:42:42 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - diminished tremor, oil change, etc. I would visit with an aunt and uncle who had an old one. You could hear the slow tick of the gears, even up in the bedrooms. I'm sure it was the reason I slept like a log whenever there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
There have been instances where patrolmen have been struck by traffic while making a routine traffice stop... so I think here it's law to either move into the inside lane to pass or slow to 45 (?) mph on the highway. From: R A Bennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 11:33:50 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it Got to be a bit careful with that. Some places have laws requiring you to slow down to about 40 mph when passing things like police cars stopped on the side of the road. You can get a big ticket for going by at the speed limit. Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 10:59 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it LOL the best is when the cop is on the side with another car stopped and the driver gets down to 10mph UNDER the limit. Dude, he's not gonna pull you over, he's got that car stopped already, he's busy... Stop lights are another one, I saw a show one time where a driving coach pointed out something brilliant. The light doesn't just turn red if you're pulling up to a green light or especially a yellow one you should EXPECT that it will turn red or yellow then red. -Curt Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 20:22:08 -0700 From: Robert Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I think my all time driving one is when people are bombing along at the speed limit on either the freeway or on a street and they slow way down simply because John Law is visible somewhere. It's dumb on a street and dangerous on the freeway. Bob R - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
While on that subject, I just discovered today that some local towns are about to enact a law where CITYWIDE the speed limit is reduced during morning and afternoon school zone hours. Rather than the lower limit only enforced in school zones in vicinity of schools while students arrive and depart it will be city wide. Something to do with buses transporting during those hours. That ought to make morning commutes interesting. From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 12:56:21 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: LOL the best is when the cop is on the side with another car stopped and the driver gets down to 10mph UNDER the limit. Dude, he's not gonna pull you over, he's got that car stopped already, he's busy... Recently enacted law in Indiana, and I think many other states, is that when passing a cop in this situation you have to move to the left (if on a multilane road) or slow down. Couple of cops had been killed by people passing too close at high speed, hence we now have this law. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
I bake most of my bread. Two tricks I've learned. I've got three racks in the oven. I had some leftover 6X6 ceramic tile. I keep six pieces of that tile on the lower rack of the oven. Once preheated they work like a heat mass. Not only do they help catch spills but crusts on breads is improved. Works like a stone for pizza and cakes seem to bake more consistently. Second, rather than look for high gluten flour I buy vital wheat gluten. which is available in most supermarkets (Hodgson Mills is common brand available in a 6oz box). Add a few tablespoons to ordinary bread flour. When making pizza crust, use the KitchenAid to beat the heck out of the dough initially to activate the gluten, until the dough pulls cleanly from the mixing bowl. Sorry ya'll. I likes to talk about me some cookin'. From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 01 Feb 2008 13:46:51 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes) I mostly make my own pizza now, make the dough in a kitchen-aid mixer. I have still not achieved what I would call prefection in a crust, but it's not bad. I think I'm limited in what I can accomplish in the finished product because my home oven will not get hot enough. I do have a pizza stone to simulate the deck of a real pizza oven but it's still not the same. I also cannot get really high-gluten flour here locally. Best I can do is bread flour at the supermarket. Any of the former Domino's folks happen to know the Domino's dough recipe? I know the six ingeredients but not the exact proportions. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
Yes. The tiles keep the heat even. Takes a little longer to preheat but the mass is there. Also the temp doesn't fluctuate so much when the oven door is opened. It's a radiant thing I guess. Doesn't take thermostat so long of a cycle to recover. I took the idea from cooking in a wood cookstove. Baking biscuits you'd start with the pan on the floor of the oven until the biscuits began to rise then you place it on the rack to brown them. Pizza pan placed on the tiles the crust begins to brown quicker and there's less chance of a soggy doughy result. I bake pita right on the tiles. From: Bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 15:04:48 -0500 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes) The function of the tiles is to even out the heat in the oven and keep it a consistent temperature? BillR ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] You asked for it
Hmph... when I was in school that's how we learned to get out of the d#$med road! Had to walk and cross a highway to catch the bus. Did I mention it was uphill BOTH ways? From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:57:08 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it Sounds most enjoyable. The other day I was stuck behind a school bus and the driver kept the stop sign out and lights flashing as the little girl meandered down the center of the side street she went onto. I guess I see why, but it sucked. Isn't it interesting how little children can hold up the entire city twice a day? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Maybe it was the years of having a tight schedule and having stressful long distance commutes but I burned out on driving many years ago. Finally I reached the point that I was so tense getting to a concert that I'd get someone to drive me. Once I adjusted to trusting another driver and becoming a passenger I was content not to have to fight traffic. It's just in the past year that I changed routine and can allow more time to commute. With the tension gone I enjoy driving again. I look forward to allowing extra time now so that I'm not rushed. I relax, enjoy a little talk radio and look at the scenery. It's a good time to focus and reflect. That probably explains now why I'm content to stick to the speed limits and the right lanes. In years past I was almost afraid to use cruise control as I often had to cruise twenty over. I was always alert watching for Mr. Occifer and swearing at those alter Gefarten who wouldn't get out of my way. Heck, now I AM the alter Kocher. From: Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 16:35:39 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant I hate driving. Period. Brian Too bad. I love driving. Especially down an empty stretch of expressway at triple digit speeds. Or doing doughnuts in the local Kmart parking lot after a foot of fresh snow has fallen. Or cruising down the lakefront looking at the million dollar homes. I do dislike some of the bad habits that some inconsiderate drivers have, but oh well, that is life. Rick Knoble Lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] You asked for it
I think I know but it's everyone else that doesn't. hehe From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:54:10 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it It's something known as principle. Brian On Feb 1, 2008 8:55 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well thats lame, why don't you just go? My wife gets exceptionaly lame at those kind of occasions, sitting there, you go, no you go. If I pull up to a stop and nobody else wants to be the first one I'm gone. -Curt Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:19:59 -0800 From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I'm gonna join in this nebulous thread by indulging myself in a small pet-peeve share. Hmmm, which one to share? Oh okay, here: At a four way stop (or a three way stop) I wish folks would really just know the law and follow it. Things would be so simple, and so much time saved. Instead, most seem to want to play the eye contact and wave-on game. Call me antisocial (I am) but I am not required to interact on that level with other drivers. I am required to follow the law. I love it when I don't make eye contact at a four-way, and the other driver, so convinced that eye contact is the law, all but refuses to go, even though they were clearly there first. Given enough time, I'll pull my keys out of the ignition and show them to the indignant driver. Brian - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Timothy Robinson and a Betamax machine
Jim! FOUND IT! Watch for direct email to follow. Tim From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:32:01 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Timothy Robinson and a Betamax machine So Tim, any success in finding the old Beta VCR? Mine are in the main AV stack under the TV. Right under the Laser Disc player. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 87 300D milage
From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 20:56:50 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] 87 300D milage Just to confound all you doubters, I put the speedo from the wrecked car into my new 87 300D a couple weeks ago, This last tank of fuel got me 430 miles on 14.33 gal of diesel -- exactly 30.007 mpg. Should improve a bit with warmer weather and regular diesel rather than winterized diesel, and then go back down a bit when AC season gets here. Peter I do well to average 26mpg in any either of the '85s or '84 300D. I did almost approach 30mpg once last August but that was when I tended to top off fuel daily and check a short average. In past quarter I've been on the low side but I attribute it to winterized diesel, the fact that my winter routine involves more city driving and I idle much more, tending to leave the car running if I'm going to be just a minute. (That's probably illegal in some places. Seems I read even idleing unattended in your own drive?) Another factor, I suppose is I always leave the climate control on the same position, never seem to use economy mode. I have this idea that I'll sacrifice a little mileage just to be content that the compressor runs occasionally year round. I think I'm just thrilled that so far the climate controls function properly. It's thrilling to be able to actually control the temps through the whole range or to know that the fresh air vents work properly. (OK... I've finished gloating.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
OY... one time I considered why not install a little LED text unit in the rear window to tell those behind just what I thought... I rarely have tailgaters as I do keep in the right lanes of the interstates and no one seems interested in moving along at posted speed as I. I do remember in the early 1980s when seems the old Audi 5000 and VW Rabbit could belch more soot. I could put out quite a smoke screen if I geared just right (which also involved having to switch the a/c compressor off on grades). I guess more than tailgating I dislike being followed to closely at night with the blue headlights glaring in the rearview mirror. It makes the guage illumination more difficult... as I'm more often watching that I AM making the speed rather than exceeding the limit. It's havoc on bifocals with +10 lense. Can we say, Mr. Magoo? From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 01:23:56 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Tailgating is the quickest way to get under my skin when driving. I don't care if you do stupid things when driving, but tailgating starts to endanger my car and my passengers. That is crossing the line Uusually I drive 5-10 MPH over posted speed limits on the interstate and very much dislike someone riding my bumper at 80 in the left lane. I use aggressive tactics when the person comes within 1 car-length. This includes abruptly slowing to match the speed of the car in the right lane. This speed will be maintained until the offender backs off at least 2-3 car lengths at which point I will speed up and finish passing the car on the right. Flashing your brights at me will lengthen the time taken to move ahead and over to the right. Another thing I tend to enjoy is closely watching the tailgater for that impatient move to pass me on the right. As soon as they look over their shoulder and make that move to the right, my right turn signal comes on and I innocently make my move to the right lane. This always adds to their level of anger and increases their blood pressure. My previous '83 SD would spit a bit of wet substance out the rear under full throttle and that was a WONDERFUL anti-tailgating feature. More than once a person had backed off my bumper while running their wipers to remove this mist Luther, wishing for rotten egg or skunk sent to be released from my rear bumper On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:59:15 -0600, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
This was an old trick that I learned in 1978... driving a FWD land yacht that everone mused why does he have snow tires on the front? There was always some person who broke traction on ice uphill and caused a string of cars to do the same. I decided there would be less damage to land softly in a snowbank than to have another vehicle sled into the side of me. OH... the untraveled... I also learned the benefits of hanging wheels in curves or to add traction driving just on the shoulders where the tires could grip. First rule of driving in snow? Stop at the store and buy a carton of eggs. Place them under the brake and accelerator pedals. On a night like tonight I sometimes open a window so I can hear some poor fool thinking if they floor the accelerator they might melt enough ice to move another inch. From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:29:33 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it In snow I'll elect to take the less travelled goat paths to avoid impatient drivers or those not equipped for the conditions. I find that conditions are usually _better_ on an untraveled, unplowed road, at least until the belly of the car starts dragging. Not much of a problem with slipperiness or lack of control. (Until it starts to get packed down into ice.) Better scenery, better control, lack of idiots. What's not to like? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
AH... admitting to a liability! Only time I put up a beware of dog sign was at a house where I didn't have a dog. To connect the tailgating OT rant with the one about mental illness, why not just do a bumper sticker about Psychotics Annon or I'm schitzophrenic and so am I ? My Rice Crispies will tell me who you are. From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:31:30 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Yeah, I know. Same thing with posting a beware of dog sign. Could be argued that you knew a danger existed. Brian On Jan 30, 2008 11:26 PM, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to put a sticker on the back that says in very small writing I kill tailgaters for fun and pleasure My my, such violence! If you actually _did_ manage to have some such fun and pleasure, the presence of said sticker would not look well for you in one of our many fine courts that are here to serve us. (On toast.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
My travelled stretch of I-40 is under perpetualy construction. Most of that construction is going on at night... so seems when there's not a bottleneck of traffic it's a work zone with speeds posted 50 mph. A section of my drive crosses the Biltmore Estate (and vineyards). Having killed one deer in the past, I'm always paranoid at night as the deer come from nowhere. From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:11:34 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant The speed limits on Interstates vary by location - lowest usually being 55 and 75 being the highest. For instance, here, I95 just outside or town, as you get closer it drops to 60 then down to 55. I've heard Montana or Wy has some relaxed enforcement. ;-) Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 10:24 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Timothy R. wrote: When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, sunroof open, . . . Are you being sarcastic when you say zoom along at 60 mph? On an interstate? That is NOT zooming along. I don't drive slower than 75 on the interstate - the speed limit is 70, isn't it? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:20:38 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant We owned a '71 VW Beetle for years and I used to drive it like it was a 911 and I flog that little car pretty hard. When I was young with the reflexes.. I once owned a 1976 VW SuperBettle. Always felt like I had to lead the pack on the highway. I'd open the sunroof, turn the aftermarket 8 track loud (hate to admit, Barry Manilow) and drive like a Golden Eagle pusher with the sound of the engine at the rear. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
Saw it the other morning. A considerate driver stopped in traffic to motion another driver in. The other driver assumed the considerate driver had check traffic in all six lanes for her so when she shot through the opening crossing other lanes she was T boned. Snarled morning rush hour for us all. There used to be a practice (incorrect) called courtesy signaling where some driver thought it was their duty to use turn signals to alert everyone behind the intention of drivers in front? From: LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:25:12 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it Allan wrote:many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Amen to That! There's nothing worse than coming upon a car stopped in the middle of the road letting someone out of a sidestreet - when doing the proper thing and maintaining right of way would have kept all traffic moving safely. Arrr! it'sinfuriating just thinking about the instances where that's happened. Perhaps *most* irritating is when a car stops and lets 20 school buses pull out in front of a few cars. Turns a nice morning into a brutal drive - where leaving early to beat the buses is completely frustrated by a considerate driver. Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a traffic hazard they are. Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard. This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks
I work in/commute to a little seasonal tourist town in the mountains. In the summer the population increases ten fold with out of state summer residents, mostly retired. Most transient visitors soon discover how strict the local law enforcement is on posted speed limits. Can we say, speed trap? For the most part I make note of the state of origin on the license plate in front of me and the fact that the car probably has a handicapped flag on the rear view mirror. That's usually a clue to anticipate anything and be prepared. Always avoid the other car's blint spot as the far right lane is the favored left turning lane across five lanes. Also, if a car is equipped with turn signals they're either not used or their purpose is only to remind the driver of which direction they ultimately intend to drive. From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:42:49 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant (Zoltan Finks A few taps on the brake will usually get those people off your rear Rich Thomas wrote: So today I was driving through our little community in the truck. Drove past this gorgeous house that was the first $1M house in the area, It is a beautiful house, not that I would have paid that for it, but whatever. Have seen signs of habitation but never the inhabitants. As I was driving by, the garage door opens and a big Lexus SUV starts backing out. An absolutely totally stunningly gorgeous young woman driving it, I toot the horn as she is just backing right out into the street. She looks pissed but stops and then backs out behind me. Anyway, she follows me for the next several minutes as we drive through the community, stop lights, stop signs, school zone, people walking, etc. I usually drive slowly just because it is my community and I don't like being a bad citizen in that regard. The whole time she is right on my rear bumper, like it is going to get her wherever she is going any faster. I was having some fantasies that she was really trying to keep up with me so she could follow me home, but then I woke upand figured daddy was better off than me, so I stood no chance. In this case, I did not mind as my mirrors were functioning well and it gave me a chance for contemplation --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four
There's something painful about reading 3/8 air ratchet and dentist in the same post... From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:38:12 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - tools to work on a Mercedes or four Your dad was a dentist? I come from a long line of dentists. OK Don wrote: I see that Harbor Freight has a 3/8 air ratchet on sale for $9.99. Is there a chance that it would be useful? Also --- I inherited an old (1958) air compressor from my Dad. It ran in his dental office for most of the years, and was taken care of then, but has been sitting in the barn for the last six or seven years. It runs OK, but does blow a fair amount of rust at the low pressures I've let it build up. How do I determine whether the tank is safe to get to 150 psi other than turning it one and leaving the house for the rest of the day and praying? -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 94 E420, 92 300SD, 92 300D, 92 250D Turbo, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 89 260E, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
When all else is said, that little fender bender that's not my fault will probably total my old twenty-five year old car in the eyes of the other's insurance company. It's worth to me ten times what they would allow. My other rationale is that carrying only liability is one of the benefits of having an old paid for Benz. SO... I'll drive to avoid any conflict. I'll be the old hound on the porch! As long as I get where I need to be in the comfortable time that my lifestyle allows, it's no problem. I don't have an interest only adjustable rate mortgage so I understand your haste and pressure. I don't have 3.5 kids in car seats screaming that I need to dump off at day care. S'cuse me while I just stay in the right lane and listen to old Elton John CDs and smoke my Pall Malls. If my cell rings while I'm driving I'll check voice mail when I get where I'm going. I'm smelling the roses as my journey is just as precious as the destination I started out for. I'll stay out of your way. Just don't PI$$ me off. So there!!! T From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:14:44 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Richard Smith wrote: The person in front always has the right of way in any state in the USA. If they want to slow down and run along beside the car in the right lane then they are well within the law to do so, but following to close is a crime in every state. You also have the legal right to flip off other drivers it doesn't mean it is the right thing to do. Staying in the fast lane and not overtaking a vehicle when you have a string of cars behind you is extremely rude and liable to incite road rage in other drivers. It is better for everyone involved if the person holding up traffic in the fast lane slows down/speeds up to get around the vehicle they are passing. To me it sounds like Luther is just being a good parent and attempting to teach an immature childish driver a lesson in behaving safe and respectful. Something we all have to do with two year old occasionally. Its just to bad they give two year old drivers licenses. Two wrongs don't make a right. Slamming on the brakes for no apparent reason is highly dangerous with a tailgater... what happens if they can't stop in time, hit you on a corner, and throw you underneath that semi you're riding next to? Then they go flying across the median into oncoming traffic. Quite a lesson if you ask me. Especially for the innocent bystanders. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes)
Pizza pie... Down here in the South I was raised to think that a nice sauce (spaghet) was just full of meat. An upstate Italy transplant friend taught that it was all about the tomato and not about chunky meat... I think most of the pizza chains it's about the quality of cheese used. Thin crust and real cheese... not this fake dog food stuff that they call Mozzerel. Then again, I'm a pasta and beans type o'guy.. fazzole/vazule... whatever. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:19:31 -0500 To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] why america is finished (pizza, not mercedes) i grew up in queens, which is not exactly a hot spot of culture. despite the barbarism, there as still a few things we still value. in terms of food, pizza and deli are sacrosanct. most queens pizza is a simply round think pie that is very flexible, the crust being topped with a little sauce and quite a bit of good mozzarella. this is the paradigm for pizza to many americans. for those who prefer more bread, a so called sicilian pizza is offered with, rectangular with an extremely thick crust. both are darn good! one might think that having grown up with such a strong pizza tradition, that i'd be some kind of new york pizza snob. i am not though. i recognize that there are many styles of great pizza apart from the simple new york style. there is really so many possibilities because pizza isn't anything other than topped bread. for example, take a gander at this CT pizza from the north end of the long island sound: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Whiteclampie.jpg it is fantastic, no? so with all this array of simply amazing possibilities, what do most americans eat for pizza? well, um, dominoes and pizza hut. the frozen stuff in the supermarket. how can a nation this moronic rule the world? the end must be near, no? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Michael :message from the ADMIN about off topic posts
From: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Michael [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:37:49 -0500 (GMT-05:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts Thanks to the List members for disclosing such personal details. The comments really bring home to me the idea that something is wrong with the woman I am involved with. In my first marriage, I was attacked in my sleep by my ex-wife. Something she later said that i had coming to me Upon my reported behavior problems to my ex inlaws... regarding my ex- wife... she was defended by her family and it was all my fault. The ex mother and father in-laws barely got along with each other. Frequently, my ex-wife's dad would just leave her mom because he could not stand to be near his wife. In this current relationship, my GF has these mood swings and we go from a having a great experience with each other to what the hell did I say or do to you?... defending my words or position or even my person. Having my face scratched, body punched, slapped. I have had my clothes ripped off of my person. She has gotten so low that she has asked me to kill her. Then the next another day, she is on cloud #9. For example, everything is fine- let's go see about this or that and life is fun. I think she gets off on these highs. She will leave my house to run errands as happy as a lark...then she'll show up back at my house all depressed and life is all wrong: everything is shit, men are shit, life sucks and I'm such a bastard. Things seemed so odd that I sought out my own couselling and I have kept coupious notes about what goes on in the relationship and why we fight and when. I will study my notes and realize that something is very wrong. ***Can somebody be both bi-polar Borderline I wonder? My GF was sexually assaulted as a child by her older step-brother. She has attempted suicide before twice she reports but not in a very long time. My GF is divorced once. My priest has advised me to not marry her. I care for her deeply and we have been on again and off again too many times to count, in just 7 months. sorry about the foul language. I used it on purpose to drive home my experiences Very respectfully submitted, Michael Nobody loves me like my mother, and she could be jivin' too. - B. B. King ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
I don't like being pushed. I drive conservatively (no political reference intended). I get tired of kids tailgating or zooming around me or passing impatiently on the mountain two lane... still, I can smoke 'em if I want to. Uncles, dad, etc. drive under the speed limit at leisure on the nine mile two lane going toward the main highway. It's not uncommon to see a string of a dozen cars behind them as they drive 35mph in a 45 zone. I try NOT to tailgate as: #1. That could be my parents in front of me and I'd hope others would be considerate. #2. With age, eyesight, diminished reaction time; I don't want to pressure someone to drive faster than their ability. It kinda boils down to manners. I'd no sooner tailgate than I'd push through a line at the JS Cafeteria during the early bird special. I'm only 48 y/o but I remember when I was always in a hurry, under pressure and maxed out as it seems most people on the highway are today. When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, sunroof open, heat on max, NPR (Car Talk) blaring, I'm amazed the cars passing in a blink like they have someplace busy to be. Sometimes I'm tempted to honk and wave when I see them pulled by a blue light ahead. From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:59:15 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. It used to be that, in my circle of friends and acquaintances, tailgating was a sign of aggression. People got into fistfights and sometimes shot for it. But now it seems as I'm tailgated every single time I drive, it isn't personal. The times I've been able to confront someone for doing it, most of them have seemed genuinely clueless why I was mad at them. To answer the next logical question: I don't drive all that slowly - just in a sane fashion somewhere around the speed limit, or maybe 5 above or 5 below depending on conditions. (talking about in-town here). And I also do not accelerate that fast because of: Fuel costs, Environmental Issues, Wear and tear on vehicle, and just generally not wishing to be a pedal-mashing, non-thinking idiot that stabs the accelerator by default. What say all? Brian ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
MB CONTENT! My uncle was considered the connoisseur when he retire and moved back to the states. He had an educated palate when it came to foods, wines or hearty beers. His retirement was spent rockhounding, playing golf or a game of cribbage. I remember the little case in which he carried his billiard cue. Mercedes was his machine of choice and he could spend hours telling me there was no comparison with my grandfather's '57 turquoise BelAir. Uncle's 220 Pontoon travelled with him from Europe to the Canal Zone (Panama) and finally to the rural mountains of Western North Carolina. I'd be hard pressed to decide which intrigued me more, the Mercedes or getting to look at naked native women in his monthly subscription of National Geographic. Anyway, while others would remark about those crazy Florida tourists, driving with their turn signal on... Uncle Floyd explained how on the autobahn one would drive with the left signal constant to signal drivers in front the intention of overtaking and passing them. Just as the autobahns were restricted to vehicles capable of maintaining a certain speed, he would curse that some of the slower drivers here in the states should not be allowed access to the interstates. From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:03:09 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Brian wrote: Simple question: If a car in front of you is going slower than you want to go, do you consider it your right to tailgate them? Not a trick question. I just want input as the the current mindset out there. It may help me understand. If you are talking about in town, then my answer is no. I don't tailgate. HOWEVER, if you are talking about the highway, my answer changes. If I am on the highway and someone is in the LEFT lane, then I will get behind you. I won't tailgate initially. I will probably flash my lights and if the car persists in driving in the left lane, then I will creep up until they move. Some might not like it, but, I think the left lane is for passing. If a car is behind you in the left lane, you should get over and let them pass! The left lane is for temporary use when you are passing. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] You asked for it
I dislike traffic. Exactly because you have to anticipate ..a driver does something unexpected... In snow I'll elect to take the less travelled goat paths to avoid impatient drivers or those not equipped for the conditions. I avoid bumper to bumper when having to travel with the flow also means above the posted speeds so as not to impede others. I even time my consolidated trips and my commutes to not be at peak hours. It's the same principle as my shopping at the grocery and using the self-check. I don't go during busy times because I dislike being rushed, having impatient shoppers pushing me while I take time to market. I guess my biggest pet peeve about driving is when I coast into a stop light to have someone pass and change lanes taking up the distance. I just find it ridiculous to accelerate 100 yards into a stop. I'll decelerate and most times not have to touch the brake before the light turns green. From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 23:23:37 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] You asked for it On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:19 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When a driver, in traffic, is driving more slowly than the rest of the vehicles thus impeding the flow, you can be sure that they are oblivious to their surroundings and probably unskilled. And what a traffic hazard they are. Any time a driver does something unexpected they are a hazard. This includes many things that may be intended as a courtesy, including many variations of yielding when they have the right of way. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant
Donald... Not really being sarcastic. I really don't exceed the posted on the interstate. My daily little curved stretch of I-40W is indeed posted 60mph. I did mean to say putt as most vehicles pass me and I'm content to stay in the far right lane and never have a problem making my 27 minute trip on time. When most drivers see a twenty-four year old navy blue Mercedes diesel they assume they must overtake me so I let them. Once in a while when someone is trying to merge and some idiot decides to pass and cut us both off I'll show that there's plenty of headroom. Most of the time though I'm content to just move with the flow in the right lane. My private joke in the summer as carloads of tourists pass (seven days per, six months May-Oct.) is that I have the keys to the park in my pocket and they ain't getting in until I get there anyway. From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:24:49 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Taking a Poll on Tailgating - Not a Rant Timothy R. wrote: When I zoom along at 60 mph on I-40, right lane, sunroof open, . . . Are you being sarcastic when you say zoom along at 60 mph? On an interstate? That is NOT zooming along. I don't drive slower than 75 on the interstate - the speed limit is 70, isn't it? Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts
An EX was bipolar. Could spend hours trying to be a perfectionist but couldn't actually focus to get a task done. I used to feel so sad that it wasn't fair for someone so brilliant to be afflicted with such an unquiet mind. I couldn't fix it and after many years I finally had to leave just for my own sanity and safety. Yep, I was awakened from sleep many times being attacked, broken ribs, etc. Not being married I had no legal standing to get help. The mother-in-law was just as manic and insisted they had no history of mental illness in their family. Yeah, right... everyone just spits out their lithium.. From: LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:41:16 -0800 (PST) To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts Stories like being barricaded in your bedroom at night with all the knives and other sharp objects in a box in your room. Sleeping with one eye open or in shifts to make sure no one sneaks up on you in the middle of the night? Oh, yeah. I know those... Dan --- Rick Knoble [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Amen to that. My second EX wife was bi-polar and I was the lucky bastard who finally figured out she had a chemical imbalance / was mentally ill. Everybody else in her life figured she just had problems. The stories I could tell I wouldn't wish bi-polar on anyone either. Rick __ __ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts
As some who are bipolar want so to be normal, normal meaning they don't have to take meds to function... there was some resentment that I seemed controlling when I insisted or simply asked Did you take your meds? Anyway, to add MB content, that night I was attacked with a kitchen knife in my sleep and had to drive myself to the ER, I was amazed that the old 300 fired right up with one glow cycle in the 22F temps. Oh, did I mention she used to go outside and unplug the block heater when I was asleep? From: Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:18:16 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] message from the ADMIN about off topic posts Welcome to my job. ... I have to fix it, or at least help him/her manage symptoms. God, I LOVE my job (and that was not at all sarcasm). On Jan 29, 2008 8:09 PM, Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An EX was bipolar. ... I couldn't fix it and after many years I finally had to leave just for my own sanity and safety. -- LT Don http://don.homelinux.net/~don/ apt-get update apt-get upgrade The following packages will be replaced Prez Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Few months ago I reported that a fuel tank was imploded due to vent having been stopped up? That was repaired, tank was replaced, crushed fuel sending unit replaced and lines were blown out. Tonight I was concerned. I returned from a little road trip and stopped for fuel. I haven't actually had to buy fuel in a month since I had the tank replaced. The suctin in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. Any thoughts? T ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
1985 300D The amount of vacuum that was in the tank... OY! I can understand how the previous tank was collapsed to 1/2 it's volume. I just can't figure how the vent is stopped again as it was just clear. Wonder if it's hurt to leave the fuel filler cap slightly open until I get a chance to check it out? (Sure can't afford to crunch another tank!) T From: Barry Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:53:18 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? Yeah, it's not venting! Barry (ducking) BTW What model was this? The suction in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. Any thoughts? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
Jim, Just purchased the car last summer and didn't even drive it until about September. The fuel gauge didn't work. No big deal as I just made it a habit of topping it off regularly. Average one leg of day's commute is about 27-30 miles. I ran out of fuel... but was suprised when it only took 8 gallons to fill the tank. Repeat of same... I discovered the tank was imploded to like 1/2 it's volume. The previous owner admitted that he thought someone had used the car at one time to smuggle drugs (seriously, that's what he thought as he'd discovered the tank had been crushed in to make room for a big ole sack of dope.) Anyway, it was obvious that vent was clogged. I wound up replacing the tank and broken sending unit. Was good as new. Indie said the vent was clear. It was only this afternoon when filling the tank I discovered the great vacuum in the tank and became concerned could the vent be stopped up again. T (Told you the long story... because as I'd written before, I got the care super cheap 'cause the previous owner had discovered the tank which he didn't disclose at sale.) From: Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:13:04 -0800 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? The suction in the tank was such that the fuel cap was difficult to remove. I mean, tug hard and then a huge woosh sound of sucking air. So, exactly what did you do to CURE the original problem? Did you replace the vent valve? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again?
I even considered if water might have gotten into the vent line and perhaps frozen. Was in 20s tonight when I fueled. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:28:02 EST To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fuel vacuum again? I have heard stories of wasps mudding up the vent on diesel fuel tanks, could be repeatable because some bees home back to the same place again and again. Or if you drive over freshly irrigated ground, you might be clogging the vent, which hangs down at the front center of the tank and has a little screen unit on it about 3/4 inch diameter. Good luck, Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ 79 300SD, 264 K miles 98 ML 320, 152 K miles In a message dated 1/26/2008 8:57:22 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It was only this afternoon when filling the tank I discovered the great vacuum in the tank and became concerned could the vent be stopped up again. **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp00300 025 48) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lien - need advice
Hey, you know this sounds kinda like the state licensing of contractors, insurance salesmen, etc. Not that I advocate more government regulation, but it can be a good thing. It not only protects the consumer but also the tradesman. Every month I receive a state newsletter which lists pending actions and resolutions by the state licensing board. These actions are usually a result of complaints by someone who engaged another's service and the job wasn't performed satisfactorily. The most often infraction is one engaging in business without being licensed. IMHO inspections are a good thing which protect you, the homeowner but also me as the electrical contractor. Face it, if your house burns down and they can't decide the cause of the fire it's often assumed to be electrical? As last person on record that work on your house, I'd wanna be protected (and my liability insurance) by knowing that the work I had done was signed off on by the local inspection authority (in this state under the insurance commission). Course, what can be done if you have a friend of a friend who knows how to hook that generator and though is unlicensed, he'll do it cheaper than I as he doesn't have the expense of pulling a permit, liability insurance nor workman's comp? Same with mechanics. We all know miracle working indies who if were required to pass a state board every year (and associated fees of being in business) would probably not be able to work. Such regulation would probably put some good people out of business. Used to a plaque at a business stating they were members of the Better Business Bureau meant something. One can still call the local bureau and get a report of any complaints or actions against a business. I personally go to the local courthouse and look up and civil actions against new contractors that I don't know. Bottom line on car repair? I've been guilty of making hasty decisions under duress when a vehicle broke down on me. Used to the automatic option was to return a car to the dealer where it was purchased. Many people do that just because of warranty. Doesn't apply to we folks who drive these 25+ year old beautys. Mine really should qualify for Medicar Look! I made a funny!). Under duress though... that's kinda like funeral homes who are required by the Federal Trade Commission to give you a list upfront of their costs of services when you have to plant old Aunt Madge. Maybe at least a shop should provide a list of fees (including diagnostic) upfront. From: Bob Hamilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:29:33 -0700 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Mechanics lien - need advice I am Executive Director at the Alberta Motor Vehicle Industry Council (AMVIC). We license 6000 businesses that are selling and repairing vehicles in the province of Alberta. We also register 9000 sales people. We have 15 investigators that mediate consumer complaints. We are funded by the licensing fees that we levy. Our function used to be done by the Provincial government - they weren't doing a great job at it so between them and industry, AMVIC got created in 1999. Our mediation last year added up to about $4 million. We refuse to grant licenses and cancel them as well. We lay charges for operating without a license. So, if you were in Alberta, you would complain to us, we would assign an investigator and he would find some common ground. If the business has committed a fraud, he can lay a charge under the Criminal Code. We have found that since we were formed, industry has learned that there is a fairly significant consequence if they cross the line. I am certainly not naïve enough to think that it is fixed but I think we are making an impact in making businesses more honest and making them think twice before they pad a repair. Most states have a consumer affairs type office that performs a function similar to us - I don't know them well but that might be an avenue to explore. And I am progressing quite nicely in the restoration of my 67 200D (pictures at bottom link below). . Bob Bob Hamilton O|||O * (780) 462-0860 7 (780) 462-0633 FAX * [EMAIL PROTECTED]BLOCKED::mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * www.amvic.orgBLOCKED::http://www.amvic.org * http://picasaweb.google.com/hamibob ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise
Many years ago a roomate had a similar predicament. The outcome? He became angry. Communication broke down. He began making nuisance telephone calls to interrupt their business. The transmission shop had the calls traced to the office where David worked and sent the police... it was a nasty (childish) mess, both parties to blame. I wound up stepping in and simply agreeing to pay the bill for David (he actually couldn't afford to pay for the additional expense the transmission shop ran into) and overseeing the shop to get the car back on the road. They put the car back together and the roomate traded it a week later. The only person who was unhappy was me for I was out the money. Roomate never paid me back. (Was not too much longer a roomate. The trade also put him further upside-down into debt.) I can appreciate the inconvenience and expense involved with a repair. I can also appreciate a mechanic's position for he doesn't know what he'll run into. The shop shouldn't have to eat the additional costs involved. They wouldn't be in business for long, would they? Who's responsible for the time and labor involved with dissembling and reassembling just to discover what is wrong and if you intend to have it fixed? My experience has been to carefully check out the reputations and Better Business Bureau reports before I trust to have work done. Once I find (I have a good trusted indy) a good mechanic I make sure that we maintain that trusting relationship. I also know that he has to make a profit to stay in business. AND, I want a trusted professional to STAY in business! On another note, I saw a 300SD for sale last year that seemed interesting. I discovered that the owner had put the car in the shop for repairs which either were never done or he couldn't afford. The owner was trying to sell the car but the mechanic was wanting to collect monies for the work he had completed and for the months of storage that the car had sat in his garage. Rather than get involved I walked away. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:31:01 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise this is not the story i've heard like this. i know someone whose car was similarly kidnapped by a transmission shop. i wonder if they have some sort of professional journal or something similar that is advocating this con. she has a modern xj8 that was not shifting to her satisfaction so she brought it in to a local big transmission place for their free evaluation. the explaned how they see this all the time and it can be fixed for a few hundred dollars. then it turns out that upon further study that the transmission is totally hosed beyond any repair and $4k would be required for a new tranny. she figured that at this figure she really needed to get a second opinion and explained that she was coming to pick up the car. then the fun started. the shop explained that the car that she had driven in could not be driven out as the transmission had been disassembled as part of the diagnostics and labor for this disassembly and reassembly would be $1700. should she not pay that amount, not only would she not be given back the car, but a mechanic's lien would be filed. she then hired an attorney and now is trying to recover her car via this attorney. we live in a world of thieves. know who you are dealing with in any transaction. On Jan 22, 2008 9:23 PM, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much did you agree to pay in writing? *All verbal* Did you give those morons your only key? *No * Is your car where you can get to it? *It's locked up in their shop. * They haven't hooked up the cable like you agreed to pay them for, they don't even have the cable, and you didn't look at the car to verify the cable was linked up right before you agreed with them that the tranny was toast. *Not that simple. It was a Junk Yard tranny, so I trusted them to say it's toast and agreed for a rebuild. Price is not an argument. Getting them to deliver is the problem.* *First I was confident but than encountered Lies, Excuses and Smoke Screens (reason for delay: Fine tuning the valve body because it will not shift in 3rd?). That got me to question their integrity. Now I am the bad guy and can't get my car back.* On 1/22/08, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hans Neureiter wrote: At 5:00 PM I got a call saying the tranny is trashed and needs a total rebuild for $ 2100. Time to run, run, run. If you were going to pay $2k for a tranny, you'd buy it from Rusty and have somebody reputable install it for you. Time to do some searching on the state gov't web page, anything I tell you about Michigan law wouldn't be applicable and might be out of date anyway. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see
Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise
OY! SEARS! Slowly I turn One of my first young experiences was with the local Sears. It seemed a reasonable place to get a new DieHard battery or radial tires. I'd heard stories, however. Just out of curiousity I put a piece of scotch tape on the hood so I could tell if it had been opened. I never could figure why they would need in the engine compartment just to rotate tires. When I was young there were times I couldn't have afforded a repair except to charge it on the Sears card. Sometimes there wasn't a choice. I'm sure I witnessed a lot of alternators and water pumps sold to a lot of unsuspecting customers. From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:49:32 -0600 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise I stopped last summer in to a local trans shop to ask what the charge would be to replace a seal. This is a national chain, owned by part of the local JF cult church that has no accounting of the finances to its members, but all the elders are nouveau riche, popping up apartment buildings and commercial buildings like mushrooms in a hot wet spring. Anyhow, they started this song about they could not replace just one seal and how if I left the car they could do an estimate etc So I caught the drift and walked out while I still owned my car. I like how Hans said the jerk started talking as if talking to a blonde. This guy was starting the same kind of bluff. It is not just local fly by night operators you need to be aware of. Beware the national franchise too. In fact a family owned local shop that has been there for years is more likely (IMHO) to be straight than a franchise. Any good trans shop should be able to tell you to the penny the cost of any job. When we lived in Hawaii, I took the escort (Diesel) into Snears to get the oil changed because I could not figger out how to get rid of the used oil at the time. This one guy comes out of the shop looking like he was going to have to pay for destroying an aircraft carrier.. all serious... and says he has bad news, and I need to come with him into the shop... (that was my first clue. Snears was always real snitty about not setting foot in the shop) He shows me the rear shocks where he had obviously just squirted oil from a can on them and said my shocks were leaking and if I didn't let him replace them I was surely going to die.. etc. I said today is a good day to die, and I am NOT paying for new shocks, and please put my car down so I can leave. PS: the same shocks were still on the car and working just fine years later when I sold the car. They still did have oil running down the outside, caked in dirt. (still from the squirtcan) At 10:31 PM 1/22/2008, you wrote: this is not the story i've heard like this. i know someone whose car was similarly kidnapped by a transmission shop. i wonder if they have some sort of professional journal or something similar that is advocating this con. she has a modern xj8 that was not shifting to her satisfaction so she brought it in to a local big transmission place for their free evaluation. the explaned how they see this all the time and it can be fixed for a few hundred dollars. then it turns out that upon further study that the transmission is totally hosed beyond any repair and $4k would be required for a new tranny. she figured that at this figure she really needed to get a second opinion and explained that she was coming to pick up the car. then the fun started. the shop explained that the car that she had driven in could not be driven out as the transmission had been disassembled as part of the diagnostics and labor for this disassembly and reassembly would be $1700. should she not pay that amount, not only would she not be given back the car, but a mechanic's lien would be filed. she then hired an attorney and now is trying to recover her car via this attorney. we live in a world of thieves. know who you are dealing with in any transaction. On Jan 22, 2008 9:23 PM, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How much did you agree to pay in writing? *All verbal* Did you give those morons your only key? *No * Is your car where you can get to it? *It's locked up in their shop. * They haven't hooked up the cable like you agreed to pay them for, they don't even have the cable, and you didn't look at the car to verify the cable was linked up right before you agreed with them that the tranny was toast. *Not that simple. It was a Junk Yard tranny, so I trusted them to say it's toast and agreed for a rebuild. Price is not an argument. Getting them to deliver is the problem.* *First I was confident but than encountered Lies, Excuses and Smoke Screens (reason for delay: Fine tuning the valve body because it will not shift in 3rd?). That got me to question their
Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise
Gee... For some reason this reminded me of a story.. as an electrical contractor. Couple bought a house. After moving in the wife discovered the freezer in the basement had quit working and the contents had spoiled. (Not a large loss.) She tells the husband who discovers that none of the electrical receptacles in that area of the basement were working. The rather dominant wife (SWMBO) incites the husband. Rather than simply look into the homeowner's warranty, they go straight for the big guns and have their attorney send registered letters to the real estate agents. Communication is pretty much broken down with no attempt to simply solve the problem first. The previous owners have moved out of town but the new homeowners try to engage the original builder with accusations of faulty wiring etc. Never mind that the house now two years old passed all inspections. As a favor to the general contractor I agreed to make a polite service call just to see if there was a simple solution. The homeowners wouldn't allow me to enter on the first trip but insisted that both real estate agents had to be present. The new homeowners are satisfied with nothing less than we'll sue!!! What did I discover? It was obvious that code would require a GFIC device on the receptacles with the unfinished concrete floor. I located it hidden behind stacks of moving boxes. The husband had plugged an extension cord into an outdoor receptacle which was protected by the same device. When he had plugged his block heater in on his diesel the frayed cord on the car had caused the device to trip. I was amused! All that was necessary was to press the reset button on the device. Imagine everyone's response, the appetite for crow ..his pennance of having to live with that barracuda. What added to the amusement was that the husband didn't realise that the hard cold morning starts were related to his block heater not getting electricity and was blaming the mechanic, trying to hold him liable for the problem with the car. From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:49:32 -0500 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mechanics lean - need advise the M16 just never works out in this modern age. you just get dragged off to jail and/or the looney bin. people you don't even remember ever meeting come of of the woodwork and tell the news how they knew hans would snap long ago. the shop still keeps your car. due to the bimby business, i have had some contact with mechanics of the sort who do not actually practice their trade as a professional business. as they have no tax id number, most wholesale houses will not sell to them. or perhaps they buy in such small volume that they can still buy cheaper from us than from the wholesaler. i've had the following conversation on more than one occassion. yeah, i need a fuel distributor for that car i've been working on why do you think that? well, i replaced a, b and c and that didn't fix it, so it has to be the fuel distributor no it doesn't, but i'll send you one anyway ok, so then he installs the fuel distributor and it doesn't help. but he has 500 in that part and his customer has 800 in it. so he actually does the work and really figures out what the problem is. costs $3 to fix. car runs great. customer has spend $1500 for a part requiring a $3 part and 2 hours of real diagnostics and thinks his mechanic is a genius. i cant tell you a one of stories like this. auto repair is a pretty crooked enterprise. know who you are dealing with and pay attention. On Jan 23, 2008 12:31 AM, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gary; you are right. This kind of thing happened to me some 20 years ago. Alfa Romeo Giulia sprint GT Veloce (what a machine). Rebuilt the motor, but I could not get the damned thing to run right. Took it to Forristalls. Drove it there. They insisted it need s a rebuild. 2 weeks later I had to pay their labor and expenses, some $ 2500 (in 1986, mind you) and had to get a tow truck to get it home. They broke the front cover by standing on the alternator. After I replaced the front engine cover a buddy of mine made a small adyustmet to the IP rack and the thing took off like a rocket. I sued. The Court notified me that the Constable could not serve the papers. No body here with this name. I think it's time to load the M16 On 1/22/08, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we all know, hans, that you are being robbed. you have been the victim of a con and will probably need legal help to thwart their attempts to successfully extort from you. On Jan 22, 2008 9:47 PM, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the items that alarmed me. I asked for the used parts last Thursday: but they are no longer accessible. Discarded. Should have asked me earlier. Texas law requires the shop to have the parts
