Re: [MOPO] Problem eBay Bidder
It makes perfect sense to me. A seller can not leave a negative feedback on Ebay for any reason, only a positive feedback. Hence the seller posted the feedback as Positive and then proceeded to trash this buyer in the description section. If ebay catches this (apparently it hasn't) they will delete the feeback entirely and suspend the seller. Ebay offers the seller NO PROTECTION WHATSOEVER, not even the ability to rate a bad transaction. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 1:05 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Problem eBay Bidder What is also very curious. i just looked at this proficient911's feedback.. he has 100% positive feedback, for the last 12 months..but thats not the strange part. There is one seller (ebay ID tomvuyo0), that he bought from who left feedback, saying that he never paid for 37 posters, is a deadbeat, and to watch out (and he repeated this warning as his feedback comment about the greek buyer multiple times), yet, for every item, the seller gave him POSITIVE feedback!! that makes no sense. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2ftab=FeedbackAs Buyeruserid=proficient911iid=-1de=offitems=25interval=0mPg=7page= 1 ftab=FeedbackAsBuyeruserid=proficient911iid=-1de=offitems=25interv al=0mPg=7page=1 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2 http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2ftab=FeedbackAs Buyeruserid=proficient911iid=-1de=offitems=25interval=0mPg=7page= 2 ftab=FeedbackAsBuyeruserid=proficient911iid=-1de=offitems=25interv al=0mPg=7page=2 On Dec 3, 2011, at 6:58 AM, allen day wrote: proficient911 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Hi Richard --- I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic Art Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2011 3:45 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 item=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 item=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
I don't know if you've ever tried to place a claim with Ebay or PayPal. I have. I had a Customs Tracking number and a postal receipt for International AirMail. Ebay and PayPal would not accept it and insisted on proof of delivery. You can't buy postage on-line from USPS.com for International First Class, only Priority or Express Mail. Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you can buy one in a post office. Hence some buyers like myself insist on using Priority International, even though we realize it will cut into our sales because of the exorbinant postal fees. FRANC -Original Message- From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:53 AM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations: 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice. About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.) As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual value. Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even bother to bid. Cheers, Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add
Re: [MOPO] Overseas Shipping
Check back Peter when you ship a valuable shipment by International Air Mail and the lying thief in Europe such as Giluvi claims he never received it and see what recourse you have with Ebay or PayPal. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:28 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Overseas Shipping Helmut is correct. I ship First Class oversees and find it typically arrives close to the 6-10 days Priority claims to. Significantly cheaper. Interestingly, I find foreign buyers for the most part to be more reasonable and patient for their material than domestic. Peter -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Freeman Fisher Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:10 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Overseas Shipping Helmut, As many know I do the shipping for another dealer on MOPO and overseas sales are a big part of the biz. I made a decision to always send overseas via Priority Mail (also size and weight come into play frequently therefore one has no choice.) Either way Priority Mail gets to the buyer consistently faster and by a significant shorter window of time. I have tried to send simply first class and damn it can take up to three to four weeks for delivery. By that point the buyer is freaking out as only Europeans can do, wondering where their purchases are. You can just see their hands gesticulating in the air as they type out their emails as if their talking about whose soccer team is the best. But Germany does seem to be a problem. For example that delivery to you of a rolled poster without the end cap because it was inspected at customsand the inspector didn't have the courtesy to re-plug. My guess is it rolled under their Mercedes. We Americans can only do so much on this end by sending to you and your countrymen the fastest way (save for Express Mail which is prohibitive) to get to you before something weird happens to the parcel. freeman On Dec 12, 2011, at 4:16 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote: Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 his shipping says $8.00 and clearly indicates it will be shipped Priority Mail Package arrives, with the flimsiest of cardboard but amazingly the card got here undamaged however, this moron did not send by Priority mail, he mailed it 1st Class for $1.68. so I send him a message: Buzz two things #1 fortunately the card did not get folded in shipping, but if yuo don't use some sturdy cardboard, you're courtig danger #2 you charged me $8 for Priority Mail shipping and yet you sent it first class for $1.68 I'm expecting a partial refund of my shipping.. $5 will be fine his response: Hello: The shipping is for postage and handling and it was sent expedited. I do not refund postage. thank you. Buzz --- so I say it is yet another fleaBay MORON getting a neg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Helmut --- I just shipped a lobby by Priority International. It weighed 1.9 oz with my packaging and it required additional insurance. That's why it cost $40. There was no overcharge and you shouldn't insinuate there was. There's no reason to be so nasty on a forum in which we are exchanging information. FRANC From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:07 PM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com: I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take on daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a letter. This free market BS is just that. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
And you have no idea what you're talking about, since I made not one penny on the shipment to the UK. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:13 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Well said, Helmut, and your examples of what it has cost you to both ship and receive items to Germany certainly shows that the high shipping prices, discussed by others, DO NOT need to be charged to clients. It's simply another way for sellers to line their pockets with additional cash, especially when no secondary, cheaper shipping methods are offered. 40.00 to mail a single lobby card to the UK?? THAT is absurd and beyond unwarranted. It's no different than the seller in Canada who charges a flat 25.00 (even to the US) to mail what could potentially be a folded, 99 cent poster. Outrageous. -KL On 12/12/11, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Dear Kirby and Freeman, within the last month, I received a significant number of packages sent First Class, not a single one took longer than two weeks, some got here within less than ten days, all of them were delivered straight to my mailbox. USPS claims that Priority Mail takes about 7-10 days or so. In my experience, this is NONSENSE: I had TWO packages shipped Priority Mail recently: The first one shipped a full month ago and I just got notice from customs that I can pick it up, so I'm going to waste half a work day on that one. (And we're talking about a value of merely US-$50 here.) The other package was apparently shipped mid-November, no trace of it so far and as it seems, the seller has lost the tracking number. I do not doubt that he shipped it, but it's been a month and it's no here yet. If agreed upfront, and if I feel confident about the seller, I'm perfectly happy to cover the risk of an actual loss. With this seller, I would have been happy to do so in this case, all I would have requested is postage at actual cost and the said Certificate of Mailing, and he wouldn't have any worries. On the other hand, when I'm made to pay for Priority and the seller can't show the tracking number, I will obviously file a Paypal claim, if my order has not arrived after a month. In over 15 years of mail order business, I think I had less than 10 items that were actually lost in the mail system, and that counts for both incoming AND outgoing mail. I lost a lot more money to sellers who never actually shipped my order. To each his own, but as I said before, in my personal every-day experience, Priority Mail holds NO advantage for me, it costs a lot of my money AND my time through the now inevitable customs hassle, so unless I'm really crazy about something and/or it's an irresistible deal, I more and more avoid sellers who are unwilling to work with me on this. Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Sellers are not supposed to make money on shipping but postal fees are not the only cost of shipping. There is also the cost of packing materials and in some cases labor. Now if one ships in a flimsy manner to keep costs to a minimum, package materials cost virtually nothing but if one packages securely there is an expense for mailers or boxes and cardboards that have to be calculated in estimating the cost of shipping. Bruce used to have a nice page explaining to the uninformed what goes into handling. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:07 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron I also agree with Kirby on this, but I go one step further: In my humble opinion, SHIPPING COSTS are not supposed to be a source of extra revenue. They are supposed to be a CUSTOMER SERVICE, and should be calculated as such. Helmut Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Well put, Richard. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 2:56 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc people don't realize that the USPS is an integral part of our nations history and that it was created as a vehicle to promote economic benefit. For more than 150 years, Postmaster General was a Cabinet level position (eliminated in the 1970s) The original purpose of the USPS was to provide a way for newspapers, magazines and advertising to reach consumers, which in turn created an economic engine. This is still the purpose of the USPS. 70% of all revenues come from bulk and commercial mailings (yeah that junkmail). However, if we eliminate the USPS, the cost of shipping packages are much higher with UPS and Fed-X and I have no doubt that it would kill my business and other mail-order sales. we need it and anyone who says otherwise is simply uninformed At 11:42 AM 12/12/2011, Franc wrote: Of course we need the post office. No commercial service would take on daily letter delivery and certainly not at a cost of $.44 a letter. This free market BS is just that. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Kirby is so right about this: At 08:49 AM 12/12/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
That's true but unlike USPS.com, stamps.com charges a monthly fee in additional to the cost of postage. That's fine, if you get a lot of foreign orders and need to avail yourself of this service but for one or two foreign orders a month, it doesn't pay to do this, especially since buyers like Helmut and lovenoir2 would object if you attempted to amortized this fee in connection with the shipping fee for their orders. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 12:33 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Use stamps.com. you can ship First Class Int and get insurance and tracking. Peter Contarino From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 11:50 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron I'm basically on the same page with Franc on this. Domestic shipping is a breeze for now. What happens if and when the FEDS hand over the Post Office to UPS or FED EX is anybody's guess.* We use USPS for most shipment. International shipping has gotten very expensive. It not uncommon for the dollar amount of the shipping to outstrip the value of the poster. Yet some international buyers do not balk at paying the money. Last winter we shipped some posters to the UK during the extreme inclimate weather by First Class Mail. These items were hung up for over two months. Fortunately and finally, all of these items but one finally arrived. We go to our local post office every day, so we do not have the same strictures as those who do business on USPS.com . * Don't get me started on this. The postal services are NOT a business. They were never intended to be a business. They are a government service. We still need them, despite what some who worship the free markets think. Kirby McDaniel www.movieart.net On Dec 12, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Franc wrote: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often by foreign buyers who lie and claim they did not receive my parcels when I have sent them by First Class International Air Mail which does not provide tracking. One such liar based in Italy named Giluvi even had the audacity to turn around and sell the items he claims not to have received from me on Ebay and Ebay would do nothing about it. So Ebay sellers are nopt trying to cheat you when they insist on Priority International Postage. They are only trying to protect themselves from frauds. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 7:16 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Rich, frankly, if I were to complain about a $5 overcharge in shipping, I could post here every other day. For some reason, a vast number of eBay sellers feel entitled for a $5 to $10 extra for shipping international, sometimes even more. If I were to leave negative feedback for this, I would probably neg about 50% of my eBay sellers. And don't even get me started on the people who insist of shipping International Priority, which has NO advantage for me whatever. If you buy First Class Mail International postage online, you can purchase a Certificate of Mailing for a mere $1.15 or so. This way you have a proof of shipping for Paypal, and everybody could be happy. But no, I HAS to be Priority Mail. Almost anything I buy can be shipped for no more than $12 with First Class, yet I constantly find myself confronted with guys asking $30 and more for Priority Mail. How does an $18 overcharge sound to you? Add the fact, that ANYTHING shipped Priority Mail is inevitably stopped by customs these days, regardless of declared value. So evertime this happens, I go on a three-hour round-trip to pick the darn thing up. How's THAT compared to your $5 loss? Cheers, Helmut Am 11.12.2011 um 21:44 schrieb Richard Halegua Comic Art: so I buy an Ocean's 11 lobby card from a guy on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=320802002865 item=320802002865 his
Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron
Here's the thing. My postal rates are posted in my Ebay listings. If the buyer is not comfortable paying for Priority International, they are free to purchase from you. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 8:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, my criticism is not about you making extra money from shipping in the first place. I much more critize that you choose an extremely expensive shipping option and make your BUYER pay the bill. If I supposed to pay an extra $28 on lobby card, merely for the seller's piece of mind, I will usually prefer not to do business with this person. You don't think that even over here I could get full insurance coverage at the $10 basic rate I charge to my buyers? Guess what, I can't. Instead, I pay for a transport policy as part of my gallery insurance, that will cover me on expensive items (basically anything worth $500 or more). Obviously, this is not for free, On any cheaper items, I simply cover a potential loss myself, I write this off to 'customer service' and take it into consideration when I calculate my ASKING PRICES. Personally, I hate it when I see a $50 item become a $90 item with shipping, and I know that a vast number of my clients feel the same. If I were to take your approach, my minimum postage fees would be around $50 to $80, depending on location. To each his own, but I refuse to do this, and instead I've chosen to live with the every-day risk of facing one of those evil, lying Europeans. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:39 schrieb Franc: Helmut --- I just shipped a lobby by Priority International. It weighed 1.9 oz with my packaging and it required additional insurance. That's why it cost $40. There was no overcharge and you shouldn't insinuate there was. There's no reason to be so nasty on a forum in which we are exchanging information. FRANC From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 1:07 PM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, you're saying It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. Since you're a professional, I figure you should know what you're talking about here... Yet, for mere curiosity's sake, I just checked the actual cost on usps.com http://usps.com/ : I assumed a weight of one pound, which we both know is ample for a single lobby card, and I further assumed the package cannot bent easily. If purchased online, the actual cost is $28.03, $29.50 at the post office counter so that would be an overcharge of $11.97, respectively $10.50. Now, when Rich (rightfully) complained about an overcharge of a mere $5 you gave the following advice: I recommend you leave him a negative feedback and explain why in the comments and report him to Ebay for charging excessive postage. He's an idiot. FRANC Cheers, Helmut Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Your last line says it all. Rather than go through the hassle of dealing with a lying, thieving buyer and an unresponsive Ebay and PayPal, I prefer someone like you just pass. That's my choice. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 7:42 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, I'm not going to play Paypal's advocate here, but their own regulations are pretty clear, as stated below. Also, Paypal does explicitly NOT offer transport insurance, so they won't take any responsibility if a poster is lost in transport. On the other hand, I figure the average Paypal employee is about as well educated as any other callcenter worker, so I seriously doubt that the person who decided about your claim was even fully aware of the actual Paypal rules and regulations. That, of course, is part of the price of doing business with a multi-national trust. I'm not the expert on the USPS postage system, and being in Germany I certainly shouldn't be. All I can say, I'm frequently receiving packages, sent First Class, with a Certificate of Mailing, with a USPS waybill that was quite obviously purchased online and printed at home. Whether this was done directly through USPS or through stamps.com is beyond my knowledge. All I know is, it can be done and if it IS done by the seller, it saves me a lot of money. Be that as may, as I said before: If a seller is working with me on this, I'll bid, if he doesn't, I usually pass. Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 20:28 schrieb Franc: I don't know if you've ever tried to place a claim with Ebay or PayPal. I have. I had a Customs Tracking number and a postal receipt for International AirMail. Ebay and PayPal would not accept it and insisted on proof of delivery. You can't buy postage on-line from USPS.com for International First Class, only Priority or Express Mail. Nor can one buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line from USPS. I'm not even sure if you can buy one in a post office. Hence some buyers like myself insist on using Priority International, even though we realize it will cut into our sales because of the exorbinant postal fees. FRANC -Original Message- From: Helmut Hamm [mailto:texasmu...@web.de] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:53 AM To: Franc; mop...@sol03.american.edu Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another fleabay Moron Franc, here's a copy of the actual Paypal regulations: 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. They want a proof of SHIPMENT, not a proof of delivery, so the Certificate of Mailing should absolutely suffice. About buying postage online: If I can do it from here, anyone in the US should be able to do it as well. You CAN buy the appropriate postage on the USPS website, but there is one restriction: If your package is 13 oz or more, for so-called 'security reasons' it has to be presented at the post office. (Seeing this restriction makes me once again wonder, whatever happened to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' but that's a different topic, and it certainly does not belong here.) As you know, I'm also a dealer, and I STILL charge about $10 for a folded poster to any destination worldwide, which barely covers my costs for postage and packing and includes a tracking number. I usually cover transport insurance from my end (through my gallery policy). I consider this part of the costs of doing business, and I DO NOT make my buyers pay for it, regardless actual value. Quite frankly, I FREQUENTLY receive well packed, sometimes expensive lobby cards, well packed, with First Class Mail at a postage cost of under $12. Whenever I see a postage quote of $40 or the like on eBay, I usually don't even bother to bid. Cheers, Helmut Am 12.12.2011 um 16:10 schrieb Franc: Helmut You can not pay for First Class Mail on-line at USPS.com http://USPS.com/ in the US and to my knowledge you also can't buy a Certificate of Mailing on-line in the US as proof of shipment. Nor so I believe Ebay or PayPal will accept this as proof of shipment because they both insist on proof of delivery. If a US seller ships Ebay sale items overseas the only protection that the US seller will be offerred by Ebay and/or PayPal is through Priority International which tracks delivery and is outrageously expensive. It costs almost $40 to ship a lobby card from NY to England by Priority International. I have to insist on it however for all purchases over $150 in value in connection with buyers that I do not know because I have been burned too often
Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection
Recently there was a lot of back and forth on this board in connection with PayPal Seller Protection in connection with International Sales. For the record, here's what PayPal indicates are its guidelines: Protection for items not received When you ship to the address on this page and provide proof that the item was delivered, you're protected against claims for items not received. For complete requirements, see terms. Protection for unauthorized payments When you ship to the address on this page and provide proof that the item was shipped, you're protected against claims for unauthorized payments. For complete requirement, see terms. In other words, merely providing proof of shipment is not enough to claim Seller Protection for items not received. You must provide proof of delivery. About a week ago, after the flurry of e-mails on this board, I tried out Stamps.com and shipped my first package by International Air Mail. So far my tracking record on Stamps.com indicates that I've provided Electronic Shipping information. This is NO indication in the Tracking History that the package was shipped by USPS. I'm going to track this package closely to see if delivery confirmation is ever provided and will report back. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Isn't it interesting that postal clerk all seem to have a tenuous grasp of postal regulations and fees? I can't tell you how many timesI've gotten totally conflicting information about the same issue from postal employees including their phone customer support personnel. FRANC -Original Message- From: rixpost...@aol.com [mailto:rixpost...@aol.com] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:23 AM To: fdav...@verizon.net Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Hi, Franc, Not certain this is accurate, but I was told by an employee at the Post Office that it costs $11.50 extra for a tracking number for a package sent internationally from the U.S. Quite an addition to the costly amount already when shipping items overseas Rick In a message dated 12/19/2011 5:16:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, fdav...@verizon.net writes: Recently there was a lot of back and forth on this board in connection with PayPal Seller Protection in connection with International Sales. For the record, here's what PayPal indicates are its guidelines: Protection for items not received When you ship to the address on this page and provide proof that the item was delivered, you're protected against claims for items not received. For complete requirements, see terms. Protection for unauthorized payments When you ship to the address on this page and provide proof that the item was shipped, you're protected against claims for unauthorized payments. For complete requirement, see terms. In other words, merely providing proof of shipment is not enough to claim Seller Protection for items not received. You must provide proof of delivery. About a week ago, after the flurry of e-mails on this board, I tried out Stamps.com and shipped my first package by International Air Mail. So far my tracking record on Stamps.com indicates that I've provided Electronic Shipping information. This is NO indication in the Tracking History that the package was shipped by USPS. I'm going to track this package closely to see if delivery confirmation is ever provided and will report back. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Well, maybe whomever you got at PayPal was more charitable to you than the person I contacted, who told me in no uncertain terms that the customs label can not be used for either tracking or proof of shipment. This occurred two months ago and I was out about $300 in revenue. If you input an international customs # into the USPS website, all you get is a certification indicating that the package was presented to the Post Office in your origin city and no delivery information whatsoever. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:20 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection yes the customs label can be used for tracking to some extent and recently I noticed that more info was available than previously. I would say this is a response to security issues (re: terrorism) and the want of the USPS to stop having to pay for claims for merchandise supposedly not delivered At 07:58 AM 12/19/2011, Vaughn K.Mann wrote: Hi MOPO, I have to agree with the bogus (Always different) information that is forthcoming from the Post Office various clerks. But..would like to pass this on for info, however, check it out for yourself; please do no take my word for it...I recently had a shipment to Germany and received a dispute from the buyer that he had not received it. For whatever reason I called Paypal and guess what.Paypal sent me to a department that assisted me for the next few days..More important. THEY TRACKED THE SHIPMENT TO THE ADDRESS IT WAS GOING BY USING THE CUSTOMS LABLE I had no idea that there was even a remote chance that customs would do this.They Did! and of course I got my money! Againbetter check this all out for yourself, but...it was certainly news to me. Perhaps some of you out there already knew this, but for you that have difficulties.Check it out! Anyway, on to more important things, Happy Holidays to all you guys and gals of MOPO enjoy the season.Vaughn (yeh!I am still on MOPO just a quiet bystander) At 08:47 AM 12/19/2011 -0500, Franc wrote: Isn't it interesting that postal clerk all seem to have a tenuous grasp of postal regulations and fees? I can't tell you how many timesI've gotten totally conflicting information about the same issue from postal employees including their phone customer support personnel. FRANC -Original Message- From: rixpost...@aol.com [ mailto:rixpost...@aol.com mailto:rixpost...@aol.com ] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 8:23 AM To: fdav...@verizon.net Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Hi, Franc, Not certain this is accurate, but I was told by an employee at the Post Office that it costs $11.50 extra for a tracking number for a package sent internationally from the U.S. Quite an addition to the costly amount already when shipping items overseas Rick In a message dated 12/19/2011 5:16:31 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, fdav...@verizon.net writes: Recently there was a lot of back and forth on this board in connection with PayPal Seller Protection in connection with International Sales. For the record, here's what PayPal indicates are its guidelines: Protection for items not received When you ship to the address on this page and provide proof that the item was delivered, you're protected against claims for items not received. For complete requirements, see terms. Protection for unauthorized payments When you ship to the address on this page and provide proof that the item was shipped, you're protected against claims for unauthorized payments. For complete requirement, see terms. In other words, merely providing proof of shipment is not enough to claim Seller Protection for items not received. You must provide proof of delivery. About a week ago, after the flurry of e-mails on this board, I tried out Stamps.com and shipped my first package by International Air Mail. So far my tracking record on Stamps.com indicates that I've provided Electronic Shipping information. This is NO indication in the Tracking History that the package was shipped by USPS. I'm going to track this package closely to see if delivery confirmation is ever provided and will report back. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing
Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection
The other item Helmut has omitted in his discussion below is that as a purchaser Buyer using PayPal, one is always protected in the case of non-delivery no matter the reason. The seller however is not. Hence when buying, of course it makes sense to pay only for Air Mail International. In the event this package is not received , the buyer can always receive a PayPal refund. Not so with the seller. The seller is royally screwed by Ebay and PayPal unless a proof of delivery can be provided and so far Priority International and Express International are the only services offerred by USPS that provides absolute proof of delivery. I'm currently testing Stamps.com to see if International Air Mail tracking is provided and so far I've received no tracking on any of the International Air Mail packages I've shipped through them. I'll keep you posted on this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:01 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Helmut the one thing you do not mention, and that most people are not aware of, but I am because we send so many packages, is that anything over 4 lbs to overseas destinations can only be shipped by Priority Mail. it adds alot to the cost of a package.. but we can't do anything about it unless we ship by UPS, which costs even more!! no doubt that shipping costs are a tremendous deterrent to some people when bidding and ultimately, they bid less to balance out shipping costs. it's like adding a seller's fee to every poster as it comes out of my results Rich At 03:01 AM 12/20/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote: I'm a dealer myself, so I can obviously understand any seller's aggravation when a package gets lost, and I'm certainly the last person who has anything positive to say about Paypal... However, when it comes to shipping costs, I RECEIVE at the very least 100 international packages every year, most likely a lot more. 100 packages sent with First Class Mail International would cost me about $12 each, $1,200 total. The same 100 packages shipped PRIORITY MAIL, at a cost of about $24 each would result in $2,400 in total shipping costs. That's roughly $1,200 in additional shipping costs in a single year alone. I like to have a tracking number for really expensive items, but even with items of $100 value, I could afford to LOSE almost a dozen packages, or more than 10% () of my incoming mail, and without ever filing for a refund, I would STILL be a couple of hundreds bucks ahead. Now my ACTUAL loss rate is WAY UNDER 1%. Postal services may be slow, but sooner or later, almost anything tends to show up again. For me, the math is pretty simple: Using Priority Mail all the way would cost me a four-digit amount extra every year, so instead, all I ask from the seller is a proof of shipment, and IN RETURN I agree to cover the risk of a possible loss. On the other hand, if I'm made to pay for Priority Mail, I will of course use any chance Paypal gives me to get my money back. (I currently have a Priority package that should have been shipped about six weeks ago, about $400 value, and the seller says he's lost the tracking number. Although I'm pretty optimistic that it'll show up eventually, I will of course file a claim with Paypal in this case.) Helmut Well, maybe whomever you got at PayPal was more charitable to you than the person I contacted, who told me in no uncertain terms that the customs label can not be used for either tracking or proof of shipment. This occurred two months ago and I was out about $300 in revenue. If you input an international customs # into the USPS website, all you get is a certification indicating that the package was presented to the Post Office in your origin city and no delivery information whatsoever. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection
No, I saying PayPal puts dealers UNDER the rock. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:58 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Franc is really saying that Paypal puts dealers between a rock and a hard place. At 10:46 AM 12/20/2011, Franc wrote: The other item Helmut has omitted in his discussion below is that as a purchaser Buyer using PayPal, one is always protected in the case of non-delivery no matter the reason. The seller however is not. Hence when buying, of course it makes sense to pay only for Air Mail International. In the event this package is not received , the buyer can always receive a PayPal refund. Not so with the seller. The seller is royally screwed by Ebay and PayPal unless a proof of delivery can be provided and so far Priority International and Express International are the only services offerred by USPS that provides absolute proof of delivery. I'm currently testing Stamps.com to see if International Air Mail tracking is provided and so far I've received no tracking on any of the International Air Mail packages I've shipped through them. I'll keep you posted on this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:01 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Helmut the one thing you do not mention, and that most people are not aware of, but I am because we send so many packages, is that anything over 4 lbs to overseas destinations can only be shipped by Priority Mail. it adds alot to the cost of a package.. but we can't do anything about it unless we ship by UPS, which costs even more!! no doubt that shipping costs are a tremendous deterrent to some people when bidding and ultimately, they bid less to balance out shipping costs. it's like adding a seller's fee to every poster as it comes out of my results Rich At 03:01 AM 12/20/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote: I'm a dealer myself, so I can obviously understand any seller's aggravation when a package gets lost, and I'm certainly the last person who has anything positive to say about Paypal... However, when it comes to shipping costs, I RECEIVE at the very least 100 international packages every year, most likely a lot more. 100 packages sent with First Class Mail International would cost me about $12 each, $1,200 total. The same 100 packages shipped PRIORITY MAIL, at a cost of about $24 each would result in $2,400 in total shipping costs. That's roughly $1,200 in additional shipping costs in a single year alone. I like to have a tracking number for really expensive items, but even with items of $100 value, I could afford to LOSE almost a dozen packages, or more than 10% () of my incoming mail, and without ever filing for a refund, I would STILL be a couple of hundreds bucks ahead. Now my ACTUAL loss rate is WAY UNDER 1%. Postal services may be slow, but sooner or later, almost anything tends to show up again. For me, the math is pretty simple: Using Priority Mail all the way would cost me a four-digit amount extra every year, so instead, all I ask from the seller is a proof of shipment, and IN RETURN I agree to cover the risk of a possible loss. On the other hand, if I'm made to pay for Priority Mail, I will of course use any chance Paypal gives me to get my money back. (I currently have a Priority package that should have been shipped about six weeks ago, about $400 value, and the seller says he's lost the tracking number. Although I'm pretty optimistic that it'll show up eventually, I will of course file a claim with Paypal in this case.) Helmut Well, maybe whomever you got at PayPal was more charitable to you than the person I contacted, who told me in no uncertain terms that the customs label can not be used for either tracking or proof of shipment. This occurred two months ago and I was out about $300 in revenue. If you input an international customs # into the USPS website, all you get is a certification indicating that the package was presented to the Post Office in your origin city and no delivery information whatsoever. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY
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I'm also saying that it's really cavalier for a buyer such Helmut to say that he has no problem using Air Mail International even if a few parcels are not received and quite another when a seller is out $400 on account of a parcel not getting to its destination or having gotten there is delivered into the hands of a lying, cheating buyer who pretends he didn't receive it! FRANC -Original Message- From: Kirby McDaniel [mailto:ki...@movieart.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 2:52 PM To: Franc Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection I have to say that I agree with Franc here. We had to move heaven and earth with paypal to get them to refund $400 to me. The story is too long to go into, but sellers are basically asked to proceed on faith with paypal. Kirby On Dec 20, 2011, at 1:00 PM, Franc wrote: No, I saying PayPal puts dealers UNDER the rock. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:58 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Franc is really saying that Paypal puts dealers between a rock and a hard place. At 10:46 AM 12/20/2011, Franc wrote: The other item Helmut has omitted in his discussion below is that as a purchaser Buyer using PayPal, one is always protected in the case of non-delivery no matter the reason. The seller however is not. Hence when buying, of course it makes sense to pay only for Air Mail International. In the event this package is not received , the buyer can always receive a PayPal refund. Not so with the seller. The seller is royally screwed by Ebay and PayPal unless a proof of delivery can be provided and so far Priority International and Express International are the only services offerred by USPS that provides absolute proof of delivery. I'm currently testing Stamps.com to see if International Air Mail tracking is provided and so far I've received no tracking on any of the International Air Mail packages I've shipped through them. I'll keep you posted on this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:01 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Helmut the one thing you do not mention, and that most people are not aware of, but I am because we send so many packages, is that anything over 4 lbs to overseas destinations can only be shipped by Priority Mail. it adds alot to the cost of a package.. but we can't do anything about it unless we ship by UPS, which costs even more!! no doubt that shipping costs are a tremendous deterrent to some people when bidding and ultimately, they bid less to balance out shipping costs. it's like adding a seller's fee to every poster as it comes out of my results Rich At 03:01 AM 12/20/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote: I'm a dealer myself, so I can obviously understand any seller's aggravation when a package gets lost, and I'm certainly the last person who has anything positive to say about Paypal... However, when it comes to shipping costs, I RECEIVE at the very least 100 international packages every year, most likely a lot more. 100 packages sent with First Class Mail International would cost me about $12 each, $1,200 total. The same 100 packages shipped PRIORITY MAIL, at a cost of about $24 each would result in $2,400 in total shipping costs. That's roughly $1,200 in additional shipping costs in a single year alone. I like to have a tracking number for really expensive items, but even with items of $100 value, I could afford to LOSE almost a dozen packages, or more than 10% () of my incoming mail, and without ever filing for a refund, I would STILL be a couple of hundreds bucks ahead. Now my ACTUAL loss rate is WAY UNDER 1%. Postal services may be slow, but sooner or later, almost anything tends to show up again. For me, the math is pretty simple: Using Priority Mail all the way would cost me a four-digit amount extra every year, so instead, all I ask from the seller is a proof of shipment, and IN RETURN I agree to cover the risk of a possible loss. On the other hand, if I'm made to pay for Priority Mail, I will of course use any chance Paypal gives me to get my money back. (I currently have a Priority package that should have been shipped about six weeks ago, about $400 value, and the seller says he's lost the tracking number. Although I'm pretty optimistic that it'll show up eventually, I will of course file a claim with Paypal in this case.) Helmut Well, maybe whomever you got at PayPal was more charitable to you than the person I contacted, who told me in no uncertain terms that the customs label can not be used for either tracking or proof of shipment. This occurred two months ago
Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection
Then why did you recommend it in a previous post? FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:07 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection I use stamps.com for International and I have found that their tracking is as non-existent as the USPS. Peter Contarino From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Franc Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:47 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection The other item Helmut has omitted in his discussion below is that as a purchaser Buyer using PayPal, one is always protected in the case of non-delivery no matter the reason. The seller however is not. Hence when buying, of course it makes sense to pay only for Air Mail International. In the event this package is not received , the buyer can always receive a PayPal refund. Not so with the seller. The seller is royally screwed by Ebay and PayPal unless a proof of delivery can be provided and so far Priority International and Express International are the only services offerred by USPS that provides absolute proof of delivery. I'm currently testing Stamps.com to see if International Air Mail tracking is provided and so far I've received no tracking on any of the International Air Mail packages I've shipped through them. I'll keep you posted on this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:01 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Helmut the one thing you do not mention, and that most people are not aware of, but I am because we send so many packages, is that anything over 4 lbs to overseas destinations can only be shipped by Priority Mail. it adds alot to the cost of a package.. but we can't do anything about it unless we ship by UPS, which costs even more!! no doubt that shipping costs are a tremendous deterrent to some people when bidding and ultimately, they bid less to balance out shipping costs. it's like adding a seller's fee to every poster as it comes out of my results Rich At 03:01 AM 12/20/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote: I'm a dealer myself, so I can obviously understand any seller's aggravation when a package gets lost, and I'm certainly the last person who has anything positive to say about Paypal... However, when it comes to shipping costs, I RECEIVE at the very least 100 international packages every year, most likely a lot more. 100 packages sent with First Class Mail International would cost me about $12 each, $1,200 total. The same 100 packages shipped PRIORITY MAIL, at a cost of about $24 each would result in $2,400 in total shipping costs. That's roughly $1,200 in additional shipping costs in a single year alone. I like to have a tracking number for really expensive items, but even with items of $100 value, I could afford to LOSE almost a dozen packages, or more than 10% () of my incoming mail, and without ever filing for a refund, I would STILL be a couple of hundreds bucks ahead. Now my ACTUAL loss rate is WAY UNDER 1%. Postal services may be slow, but sooner or later, almost anything tends to show up again. For me, the math is pretty simple: Using Priority Mail all the way would cost me a four-digit amount extra every year, so instead, all I ask from the seller is a proof of shipment, and IN RETURN I agree to cover the risk of a possible loss. On the other hand, if I'm made to pay for Priority Mail, I will of course use any chance Paypal gives me to get my money back. (I currently have a Priority package that should have been shipped about six weeks ago, about $400 value, and the seller says he's lost the tracking number. Although I'm pretty optimistic that it'll show up eventually, I will of course file a claim with Paypal in this case.) Helmut Well, maybe whomever you got at PayPal was more charitable to you than the person I contacted, who told me in no uncertain terms that the customs label can not be used for either tracking or proof of shipment. This occurred two months ago and I was out about $300 in revenue. If you input an international customs # into the USPS website, all you get is a certification indicating that the package was presented to the Post Office in your origin city and no delivery information whatsoever. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection
I directly posted it and copied it two days ago. Go back and look at the MOPO e-mails. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:25 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Could somebody from the US (and from the US only!) look up the actual Paypal Seller Protection Policy? I meanwhile get the feeling that the Paypal rules for the US are different from the regulation we have in Germany. When I call up https://cms.paypal.com/de/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content https://cms.paypal.com/de/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-contentcontent_ID=ua/Se llerProtection_fulllocale.x=en_US content_ID=ua/SellerProtection_fulllocale.x=en_US I'm not sure if this page can be accessed from the US, so I have posted the important chapters below. To me it CLEARLY states proof of SHIPMENT, however Paypal have completely different rules in the US: 1. General. PayPal protects the recipient of a payment made by a customer (the “payment recipient”) from the following cases, provided the requirements mentioned under Clause 2 and 3 have been met (seller protection). 1.1. Reversals of bank account payments; including all risks of direct debiting (non sufficient funds, unauthorized access, returns). 1.2. Chargebacks from credit card payments. 1.3. Reversals due to unjustified claims under the terms of PayPal Buyer Protection or the PayPal Standard Buyer Complaint Process. 1.4. Chargebacks from payments not authorized by the owner of the PayPal account. Seller protection only applies if the reversal or credit card chargeback was issued against you for the reason * the payment was unauthorised or * reversal or credit card chargeback or PayPal Buyer Protection claims are due to the buyer not receiving the item. where PayPal receives from you proof that the item was posted in accordance with the requirements set forth in Section 4 below, subject to the further provision of this PayPal Seller Protection Policy (including, without limitation, the Eligibility Requirements at Section 3). There is no seller protection if reason of the reversal or chargeback is that the item was not as described. PayPal will restrict the access of the payment recipient to the payment amount whenever a buyer issues a credit card chargeback or a bank account reversal, or files a claim under the terms of PayPal Buyer Protection or a PayPal Standard Buyer Complaint claim, or when payments not authorized by the owner of the PayPal account have been made. In this case, the seller has no access to the payment amount. This means that the payment amount will display as negative balance in the PayPal account of the payment recipient, who temporarily will not be able to access the payment amount. PayPal will lift this temporary hold when the requirements for seller protection set out below have been met. ... 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. 4.2. Valid proof of shipment. PayPal accepts any proof of shipment as long as the following information is included: 4.2.1. Name of the shipping service 4.2.2. Shipping date 4.2.3. Name and address of the recipient. This information must match the address shown on the Transaction Details page. 4.2.4. Name and address of the sender. This information must match the seller’s address. 4.2.5. Tracking Number (optional) Subsequently, here is a non-conclusive list of shipping services we accept to issue proof of shipment based on the requirements set out previously. 1. Deutsche Post AG / DHL (except for small parcels without proof of shipping and letters (letters include consignment, bookpost and Maxibrief formats) 2. GLS 3. DPD 4. Hermes 5. UPS 6. FedEx 7. TNT In addition, shipping receipts of registered mail (Einschreiben) by Deutsche Post AG are also accepted as proof of shipment, provided the following information is included: 1. Shipping date 2. Name of the recipient The name of the recipient must match the name shown on the Transaction Details page. 4.3. Transactions not exceeding €25 EUR. Proof of shipment may not be required if the payment amount does not exceed 25.00 EUR. PayPal waives the requirement of providing proof of shipment up to ten times within six months based on a calendar year. Am 20.12.2011 um 19:46 schrieb Franc: The other item Helmut has omitted in his discussion below is that as a purchaser Buyer using PayPal, one is always protected in the case of non
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It might have to do with government regulations that are in place in Germany and other European countries which are more favorable to the consumer than in the US. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 12:35 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Found it. So it appears that Paypal regulations are indeed different in the US, and US sellers actually get screwed worse than sellers from Germany. I did not know that, and since it's the same company, it is quite a surprise. So I guess I'll have to see this matter in a different light now. Helmut I directly posted it and copied it two days ago. Go back and look at the MOPO e-mails. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 9:25 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Could somebody from the US (and from the US only!) look up the actual Paypal Seller Protection Policy? I meanwhile get the feeling that the Paypal rules for the US are different from the regulation we have in Germany. When I call up https://cms.paypal.com/de/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-content https://cms.paypal.com/de/cgi-bin/?cmd=_render-contentcontent_ID=ua/Se llerProtection_fulllocale.x=en_US content_ID=ua/SellerProtection_fulllocale.x=en_US I'm not sure if this page can be accessed from the US, so I have posted the important chapters below. To me it CLEARLY states proof of SHIPMENT, however Paypal have completely different rules in the US: 1. General. PayPal protects the recipient of a payment made by a customer (the “payment recipient”) from the following cases, provided the requirements mentioned under Clause 2 and 3 have been met (seller protection). 1.1. Reversals of bank account payments; including all risks of direct debiting (non sufficient funds, unauthorized access, returns). 1.2. Chargebacks from credit card payments. 1.3. Reversals due to unjustified claims under the terms of PayPal Buyer Protection or the PayPal Standard Buyer Complaint Process. 1.4. Chargebacks from payments not authorized by the owner of the PayPal account. Seller protection only applies if the reversal or credit card chargeback was issued against you for the reason * the payment was unauthorised or * reversal or credit card chargeback or PayPal Buyer Protection claims are due to the buyer not receiving the item. where PayPal receives from you proof that the item was posted in accordance with the requirements set forth in Section 4 below, subject to the further provision of this PayPal Seller Protection Policy (including, without limitation, the Eligibility Requirements at Section 3). There is no seller protection if reason of the reversal or chargeback is that the item was not as described. PayPal will restrict the access of the payment recipient to the payment amount whenever a buyer issues a credit card chargeback or a bank account reversal, or files a claim under the terms of PayPal Buyer Protection or a PayPal Standard Buyer Complaint claim, or when payments not authorized by the owner of the PayPal account have been made. In this case, the seller has no access to the payment amount. This means that the payment amount will display as negative balance in the PayPal account of the payment recipient, who temporarily will not be able to access the payment amount. PayPal will lift this temporary hold when the requirements for seller protection set out below have been met. ... 4. Proof of shipment. 4.1. General. The payment recipient proofs the shipment of an item by providing an online tracking number of an independent shipping service or a shipping receipt issued by an independent shipping service, which may be uploaded via the PayPal website. In certain cases, providing an online tracking number will not suffice, so the payment recipient will be requested to provide a shipping receipt. 4.2. Valid proof of shipment. PayPal accepts any proof of shipment as long as the following information is included: 4.2.1. Name of the shipping service 4.2.2. Shipping date 4.2.3. Name and address of the recipient. This information must match the address shown on the Transaction Details page. 4.2.4. Name and address of the sender. This information must match the seller’s address. 4.2.5. Tracking Number (optional) Subsequently, here is a non-conclusive list of shipping services we accept to issue proof of shipment based on the requirements set out previously. 1. Deutsche Post AG / DHL (except for small parcels without proof of shipping and letters (letters include consignment, bookpost and Maxibrief formats) 2. GLS 3. DPD 4. Hermes 5. UPS 6. FedEx 7. TNT In addition, shipping receipts of registered mail
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For buying Air Mail International on-line Stamps.com is great but we were discussing the way PayPal screws the seller unless he ships internationally with delivery tracking. At least stamps.com has now made it possible for me to almost NEVER deal with a postal clerk. FRANC -Original Message- From: peter contarino [mailto:pcontar...@triad.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 4:14 PM To: 'Franc' Cc: mopo-l@listserv.american.edu Subject: RE: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection My earlier point was primarily addressing the First Class shipping option. That it is available online through Stamps, takes about the same amount of time as Priority, and is much cheaper. Tracking is poor once a package leaves the country no matter who I seem to use. Peter Contarino From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Franc Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 7:32 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Then why did you recommend it in a previous post? FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 11:07 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection I use stamps.com for International and I have found that their tracking is as non-existent as the USPS. Peter Contarino From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Franc Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:47 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection The other item Helmut has omitted in his discussion below is that as a purchaser Buyer using PayPal, one is always protected in the case of non-delivery no matter the reason. The seller however is not. Hence when buying, of course it makes sense to pay only for Air Mail International. In the event this package is not received , the buyer can always receive a PayPal refund. Not so with the seller. The seller is royally screwed by Ebay and PayPal unless a proof of delivery can be provided and so far Priority International and Express International are the only services offerred by USPS that provides absolute proof of delivery. I'm currently testing Stamps.com to see if International Air Mail tracking is provided and so far I've received no tracking on any of the International Air Mail packages I've shipped through them. I'll keep you posted on this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 1:01 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] PayPal Seller Protection Helmut the one thing you do not mention, and that most people are not aware of, but I am because we send so many packages, is that anything over 4 lbs to overseas destinations can only be shipped by Priority Mail. it adds alot to the cost of a package.. but we can't do anything about it unless we ship by UPS, which costs even more!! no doubt that shipping costs are a tremendous deterrent to some people when bidding and ultimately, they bid less to balance out shipping costs. it's like adding a seller's fee to every poster as it comes out of my results Rich At 03:01 AM 12/20/2011, Helmut Hamm wrote: I'm a dealer myself, so I can obviously understand any seller's aggravation when a package gets lost, and I'm certainly the last person who has anything positive to say about Paypal... However, when it comes to shipping costs, I RECEIVE at the very least 100 international packages every year, most likely a lot more. 100 packages sent with First Class Mail International would cost me about $12 each, $1,200 total. The same 100 packages shipped PRIORITY MAIL, at a cost of about $24 each would result in $2,400 in total shipping costs. That's roughly $1,200 in additional shipping costs in a single year alone. I like to have a tracking number for really expensive items, but even with items of $100 value, I could afford to LOSE almost a dozen packages, or more than 10% () of my incoming mail, and without ever filing for a refund, I would STILL be a couple of hundreds bucks ahead. Now my ACTUAL loss rate is WAY UNDER 1%. Postal services may be slow, but sooner or later, almost anything tends to show up again. For me, the math is pretty simple: Using Priority Mail all the way would cost me a four-digit amount extra every year, so instead, all I ask from the seller is a proof of shipment, and IN RETURN I agree to cover the risk of a possible loss. On the other hand, if I'm made to pay for Priority Mail, I will of course use any chance Paypal gives me to get my money back. (I currently have a Priority package that should have been shipped about six weeks ago, about $400 value, and the seller says he's lost the tracking number. Although I'm pretty optimistic that it'll show up eventually, I will of course file a claim with Paypal in this case
Re: [MOPO] Paypal problems
I have not had this problem this week but I had a funds transfer reversed by PayPal from a foreign buyer because PayPal claimed this buyer was laundering money, not to me but to other people in the US. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of walter reuben Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2011 5:41 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Paypal problems hi I am having major problems with PayPal which I have never had before. A friend of mine in Europe snet me a payment of several hundred euros. The PayPal system shows that the funds were in the process of being transferred to my bank account, and that the transfer is PENDING. This makes no sense at all. The payment was made by my friend while I was asleep, and I never requested the transfer to my bank account. Another payment was just made by an ebay customer, and it is showing as COMPLETED FUNDS NOT AVAILABLE. Another ebay customer bought from me two days ago and his payment also shows up as COMPLETED FUNDS NOT YET AVAILABLE. i am aware that, from time to time, PayPal holds up a transaction for a day, but this is nothing like that. EIther there is some kind of terrible glitch in the system, or else evil ebay has come up with a new way to screw sellers by holding their money a few extra days. When I try to contact paypal, I get a meaningless automatic message in their so called help chat system. Has any other seller had problems with PayPal this week? And is there any way to actually telephone this company and speak to an actual person who can help with this mess? Walter Reuben Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com
I'd like to just follow up on my International Air Mail test using Stamps. com. I sent out parcels by International Air Mail on 12.12.11 to Australia and Europe. I was told that this method of shipping takes only 10 days or less, usually only five, as opposed to Priority International which allegedly can take longer if the parcel is stopped by costoms. I was also told that if the postage is purchased through stamps.com ,adequate tracking and delivery information would be provided to satisfy an Ebay/PayPal claim of non-delivery should the package be lost or should the buyer simply lie and claim non-receipt. Well, eighteen days later one of my four shipments, the one to Australia arrived. I know this because I received an e-mail from the satisfied buyer. Stamps. com provided not one bit of information in connection with tracking or delivery except to indicate that there was an Electronic Shipping notification on my part. Contrary to the myth, spread on this board, International Air Mail is not quicker or more reliable than Priority International and in the event of a claim of non-delivery or non-receipt, the buyer will be hard pressed to using the alleged tracking information that is provided by Stamps.com to substantiate shipment and delivery. I plan to continue to use Priority International for items valued over $150 and will pass the expense on to the buyer. That's the only assurance a buyer can have against bogus international PayPal/Ebay claims. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com
Why can't a seller provide a tracking number for a Priority International package from the US? Something's not right about that. I wasn't only complaining about the length of time my Air International packages were taking. I was complaining about the total lacking of tracking and delivery information. I have since learned that some of my packages actually were delivered but I've received not one piece of tracking and delivery information on any of them. As such, you can not rely on Air International in the event of a PayPal buyer dispute from an unscrupulous buyer who receives a package and claims non-delivery. Priority International on the other hand DOES provide tracking and delivery information, presuming of course that one has the tracking #. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:26 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com As of today, I'm still waiting for a package apparently sent Priority Mail from the US around November 15... Unfortunately, the seller can't show a tracking number, so I had to file a Paypal claim. Several other purchases from the US are also delayed, regardless of the service used. An outgoing package to the US, sent Registered Mail on November 16 hasn't been delivered as well, last tracking status is from November 18. It's the holiday season, and I'm facing these problems every year, with international mail, serious delays are to be expected, regardless of the service use. Fortunately, sooner or later (almost) everything tends to show up again (sometimes MUCH later, though). Helmut Am 30.12.2011 um 23:43 schrieb Franc: I'd like to just follow up on my International Air Mail test using Stamps. com. I sent out parcels by International Air Mail on 12.12.11 to Australia and Europe. I was told that this method of shipping takes only 10 days or less, usually only five, as opposed to Priority International which allegedly can take longer if the parcel is stopped by costoms. I was also told that if the postage is purchased through stamps.com ,adequate tracking and delivery information would be provided to satisfy an Ebay/PayPal claim of non-delivery should the package be lost or should the buyer simply lie and claim non-receipt. Well, eighteen days later one of my four shipments, the one to Australia arrived. I know this because I received an e-mail from the satisfied buyer. Stamps. com provided not one bit of information in connection with tracking or delivery except to indicate that there was an Electronic Shipping notification on my part. Contrary to the myth, spread on this board, International Air Mail is not quicker or more reliable than Priority International and in the event of a claim of non-delivery or non-receipt, the buyer will be hard pressed to using the alleged tracking information that is provided by Stamps.com to substantiate shipment and delivery. I plan to continue to use Priority International for items valued over $150 and will pass the expense on to the buyer. That's the only assurance a buyer can have against bogus international PayPal/Ebay claims. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com
That would be my conclusion also. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:17 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com no phone calls are needed just go to USPS.com and enter the info I'll bet the package Helmut is talking about was not sent Priority Mail anyway At 11:02 AM 1/4/2012, Freeman Fisher wrote: Helmut, Regarding the Priority Mail Shipment, your seller had to fill out the larger customs declaration form. In the upper left corner just under the bar code is a customs tracking number. Your seller can call the post office or its possible you can from your end, that most definitely can determine if your package is still in customs, backlogged from the Holidays or if it has been released. Its a 13 digit code that ends in US. Try that. That is one definite example of why sending Priority Mail from the US has an advantage. freeman On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote: As of today, I'm still waiting for a package apparently sent Priority Mail from the US around November 15... Unfortunately, the seller can't show a tracking number, so I had to file a Paypal claim. Several other purchases from the US are also delayed, regardless of the service used. An outgoing package to the US, sent Registered Mail on November 16 hasn't been delivered as well, last tracking status is from November 18. It's the holiday season, and I'm facing these problems every year, with international mail, serious delays are to be expected, regardless of the service use. Fortunately, sooner or later (almost) everything tends to show up again (sometimes MUCH later, though). Helmut Am 30.12.2011 um 23:43 schrieb Franc: I'd like to just follow up on my International Air Mail test using Stamps. com. I sent out parcels by International Air Mail on 12.12.11 to Australia and Europe. I was told that this method of shipping takes only 10 days or less, usually only five, as opposed to Priority International which allegedly can take longer if the parcel is stopped by costoms. I was also told that if the postage is purchased through stamps.com ,adequate tracking and delivery information would be provided to satisfy an Ebay/PayPal claim of non-delivery should the package be lost or should the buyer simply lie and claim non-receipt. Well, eighteen days later one of my four shipments, the one to Australia arrived. I know this because I received an e-mail from the satisfied buyer. Stamps. com provided not one bit of information in connection with tracking or delivery except to indicate that there was an Electronic Shipping notification on my part. Contrary to the myth, spread on this board, Internati! onal Air Mail is not quicker or more reliable than Priority International and in the event of a claim of non-delivery or non-receipt, the buyer will be hard pressed to using the alleged tracking information that is provided by Stamps.com to substantiate shipment and delivery. I plan to continue to use Priority International for items valued over $150 and will pass the expense on to the buyer. That's the only assurance a buyer can have against bogus international PayPal/Ebay claims. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its
Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com
I've added my own sentiment to that old adage. It now reads as You get what you pay for and sometimes not even then. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of allen day Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:19 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com This would apply to the old, old adage: You get what you pay for. If USPS global express is an option ... the time frame would / could be tweaked considerably. ad _ From: Freeman Fisher flixs...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 4, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com Helmut, Regarding the Priority Mail Shipment, your seller had to fill out the larger customs declaration form. In the upper left corner just under the bar code is a customs tracking number. Your seller can call the post office or its possible you can from your end, that most definitely can determine if your package is still in customs, backlogged from the Holidays or if it has been released. Its a 13 digit code that ends in US. Try that. That is one definite example of why sending Priority Mail from the US has an advantage. freeman On Jan 4, 2012, at 10:26 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote: As of today, I'm still waiting for a package apparently sent Priority Mail from the US around November 15... Unfortunately, the seller can't show a tracking number, so I had to file a Paypal claim. Several other purchases from the US are also delayed, regardless of the service used. An outgoing package to the US, sent Registered Mail on November 16 hasn't been delivered as well, last tracking status is from November 18. It's the holiday season, and I'm facing these problems every year, with international mail, serious delays are to be expected, regardless of the service use. Fortunately, sooner or later (almost) everything tends to show up again (sometimes MUCH later, though). Helmut Am 30.12.2011 um 23:43 schrieb Franc: I'd like to just follow up on my International Air Mail test using Stamps. com. I sent out parcels by International Air Mail on 12.12.11 to Australia and Europe. I was told that this method of shipping takes only 10 days or less, usually only five, as opposed to Priority International which allegedly can take longer if the parcel is stopped by costoms. I was also told that if the postage is purchased through stamps.com ,adequate tracking and delivery information would be provided to satisfy an Ebay/PayPal claim of non-delivery should the package be lost or should the buyer simply lie and claim non-receipt. Well, eighteen days later one of my four shipments, the one to Australia arrived. I know this because I received an e-mail from the satisfied buyer. Stamps. com provided not one bit of information in connection with tracking or delivery except to indicate that there was an Electronic Shipping notification on my part. Contrary to the myth, spread on this board, Internati! onal Air Mail is not quicker or more reliable than Priority International and in the event of a claim of non-delivery or non-receipt, the buyer will be hard pressed to using the alleged tracking information that is provided by Stamps.com to substantiate shipment and delivery. I plan to continue to use Priority International for items valued over $150 and will pass the expense on to the buyer. That's the only assurance a buyer can have against bogus international PayPal/Ebay claims. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY
Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com
You expected them to go down? FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:51 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] International Air Mail Experiment with Stamps.com to everyone who thinks postal rates are too high already, they are soon going up again Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] REQUEST FROM KIRBY AT WWW.MOVIEART.NET
When I clicked on your link, Kirby, I got a message from my security provider that the website is a security risk and my security system blocked it. You may have a virus. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 3:41 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] REQUEST FROM KIRBY AT WWW.MOVIEART.NET I would like to request folks on the list who can spare the time to simply visit the site listed above and see if it appears to work normally. I'm not including a link to it, because I want to see if the link itself could be causing problems. Kirby Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Postage to Canada
This is the first I've heard of this. I'll try to check it out for you. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:54 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Postage to Canada Hi to you all The postal service in Australia is telling me that the Canadian postal service will not accept insured packages. Apparently we can only send packages to Canada by normal airmail, registered post or Express Courier. Does anyone happen to know why there should be a problem with insured packages to Canada? Regards John Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Postage to Canada
I just check USPS and I see no evidence of that. You can still ship priority international insured to Canada from New York City. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:20 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Postage to Canada Hi Freeman Thanks for the information. Actually I was trying to insure the package for 20.00 but they said Canada will not accept any insured packages - period! Regards John - Original Message - From: Freeman Fisher flixs...@aol.com To: JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia johnr...@moviemem.com Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Postage to Canada John, Were you trying to insure a poster for more than $675. That I am to understand is their max indemnification. I FOUND THE BELOW INFORMATION ON EBAY.THEN AGAIN CONSIDER THE SOURCE IS EBAY Insurance starts at $2.30 for the first $50 for all countries except Canada, which starts at $1.75 for the first $50. For insurance costs, you can go to the USPS website at www. usps .com Each country has a maximum indemnity limit for reimbursement. For example, Canada's maximum is $675. The USPS website provides a list of all the indemnity limits for every country. Purchasing insurance for values beyond the maximum idemnity limit for that country is a waste of funds as the amount over the maximum will not be reimbursed for loss or damage. On Jan 17, 2012, at 11:53 AM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote: Hi to you all The postal service in Australia is telling me that the Canadian postal service will not accept insured packages. Apparently we can only send packages to Canada by normal airmail, registered post or Express Courier. Does anyone happen to know why there should be a problem with insured packages to Canada? Regards John Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] PayPal 1099s
FYI. PayPal is supposed to start issuing 1099 this year for the tax year ending 2011. I tried to access mine on-line through my PayPal account only to find that the instructions posted by PayPal both for retrieving your 1099 on-line and for requesting a paper 1099 don't work. I called their support line and was first connected to a total idiot who thought I was trying to research a $10.99 payment. When I explained what a 1099 was for the fifth time, she offerred to connect me to Ebay. I hung up on her and redialed. I got a very helpful support person the second time, who attempted to retrieve my 1099 and ultimately came to the conclusion that the PayPal instructions don't work. Good luck retrieving yours. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Insurance to England?
I've certainly bought insurance for international priority through USPS but I have had a need for this recently. I've been using Stamps.com and I've definitely purchased insurance there for Priority International and for regular Air Mail International packages. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic Art Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:29 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Insurance to England? I don't recall being able to buy any insurance through the USPS for international packages At 01:17 PM 1/30/2012, Alan Adler wrote: Dear Mopos - Maybe I missed a posting about this - But I have tried to ship 2 parcels to England via Priority and they are not currently allowing insurance to be purchased. One pkg was over $200 last week and the other was $100 today - so it was not a 24-hour virus in the system or anything like that. Anyone have the latest info on this issue? Thanks - Alan Adler Museum of Mom and Pop Culture MUSEUM GIFT SHOP: http://stores.ebay.com/Museum-Store-Gifts ALAN J. ADLER INTERVIEW: http://ephemera.typepad.com/ephemera/2009/09/movie-poster-collector-alan-j-a dler-interview.html Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Question for dealers
I tried scanning and did not like the results. The scanning process produced a texture on the image and sometimes distorted the colors. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 7:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Question for dealers Hi to you all I have recently started scanning lobby cards instead of photographing them. I notice that many dealers including the major dealers still photograph lobby cards to add to their websites. Just curious as to whether anyone sees any problems with scanning lobby cards rather than photographing them. Regards John JOHN REID VINTAGE MOVIE MEMORABILIA Website: www.moviemem.com PO Box 92 Elanora Qld 4221 Australia Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!
I received the same crap from this deadbeat. Luckily, he only bought two cheap items. Please file a dispute so that he'll be kicked off Ebay and we won;t have to waste our time with this A**hole in the future. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jeff Potokar Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:19 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! I wonder if you will also receive a similar be gentle with me email, too, John. Good luck. Jeff On Feb 11, 2012, at 4:09 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote: I am also waiting for payment from this guy for 7 posters. I guess it doesnt look like I'm going to get paid. - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art mailto:sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! jeez.. how many of these emails do you get from ebay buyers At 03:47 PM 2/11/2012, channinglylethomson wrote: I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to: panosnatalia1968 I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless... Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list. Thanks, Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!
Such a stupid e-mail, too. Did he just wake up this morning and find out that Greece was in financial crisis? FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Evans Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 7:57 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! Love this guy. Just as Greece refuses to face reality and riots against austerity measures, he's back. The perfectly ridiculous comedy microcosm. Though you'd have thought he'd be doing this on German dealers' items. On 11 Feb 2012, at 23:47, channinglylethomson wrote: I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to: panosnatalia1968 I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless... Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list. Thanks, Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] 3 WHITNEY HOUSTON Press Kits
Oh, lighten up, foe Christsakes! FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:09 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3 WHITNEY HOUSTON Press Kits Very tacky indeed. I couldn't agree more. She's not even buried yet, for God's sake. This is right in line with the mexican lobby card seller who also likes to skip along behind the hearse. -KL On 2/15/12, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: I always LOVE to buy material on the recently deceased. Do you also have any mexican lobby cards by chance? Helmut Am 15.02.2012 um 03:36 schrieb Dave Smith (Reel Deals): Hi - If anybody is interested, I just listed press kits from WHITNEY HOUSTON's 3 major movies: THE BODY GUARD: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260957378091s sPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 THE PREACHER'S WIFE: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260957378059s sPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 WAITING TO EXHALE: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260957378119s sPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 All with a low starting price and all with no reserve. I now also have over 2000 items in my Ebay Store. My store is located at http://stores.ebay.com/Reel-Deals-Movie-Posters?_rdc=1 Thanks! Dave Smith Reel Deals Movie Posters Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] 3 WHITNEY HOUSTON Press Kits
I wondered that too but I presumed that he was spending the energy on this on-line marketing endeavor to MOPO for a reason! FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:16 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3 WHITNEY HOUSTON Press Kits What I wonder is if ANYONE in the tiny world of MOPO ever buys even one Mex LC from Rod, If none of us do, then it is really more a case of completely wasted effort. Bruce On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:46 PM, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: For some reason, all of rodxmorgan's posts go directly to my Spam file. I didn't request it, but it happens anyway. Seems like a somewhat intelligent slime ball. While holding up Yorick's skull, he'd be listing as many Shakespeare-related Mexican lobby cards as he could find. Someday it might me, Alas, poor rodxmorgan, we knew him well On second thought, I don't think so... In a message dated 2/15/2012 3:34:46 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, davidmkusum...@hotmail.com writes: You know, for me it boils down to who's doing the selling. Everyone does it. I don't see a problem with it because indeed, demand goes up for items linked to a celebrity who dies. The only seller who rubbed me the wrong way w/this was rodxmorgan - because for years (until I blocked his e-mails) - he exhibited a I don't give a shit what people think attitude toward others on this board - while consistently displaying a tasteless style of exploitation akin to an carnival-barking ambulance chaser. I haven't seen him in my inbox for awhile, but oh man that guy sounded ancient, like a guy wearing a straw hat and a flask on his shin, reeking of cigarette smoke, bragging about his revenue streams while doing his damnedest to keep you from looking at his tax returns. -d. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:06:46 + From: evan...@blueyonder.co.uk Subject: Re: 3 WHITNEY HOUSTON Press Kits To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Never really seen the problem with this. Invariably this material is connected to appealing corpses. Though I wouldn't say fresher is better, nature of business surely, even if it seems indelicate. On 15 Feb 2012, at 21:02, Dave Smith wrote: I definitely had second thoughts before posting but quite a few people asked me if I had material on her. I figured the press kits would mean more to someone than they do to me, so they got posted. Sorry if I offended you. Someone will be happy though. Dave Smith Reel Deals -- From: lovenoir2 loveno...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 3:08 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] 3 WHITNEY HOUSTON Press Kits Very tacky indeed. I couldn't agree more. She's not even buried yet, for God's sake. This is right in line with the mexican lobby card seller who also likes to skip along behind the hearse. -KL On 2/15/12, Helmut Hamm texasmu...@web.de wrote: I always LOVE to buy material on the recently deceased. Do you also have any mexican lobby cards by chance? Helmut Am 15.02.2012 um 03:36 schrieb Dave Smith (Reel Deals): Hi - If anybody is interested, I just listed press kits from WHITNEY HOUSTON's 3 major movies: THE BODY GUARD: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260957378091ssPageN ame=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 item=260957378091ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 THE PREACHER'S WIFE: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260957378059ssPageN ame=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 item=260957378059ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 WAITING TO EXHALE: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=260957378119ssPageN ame=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 item=260957378119ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123 All with a low starting price and all with no reserve. I now also have over 2000 items in my Ebay Store. My store is located at http://stores.ebay.com/Reel-Deals-Movie-Posters?_rdc=1 Thanks! Dave Smith Reel Deals Movie Posters Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content
Re: [MOPO] Why our ambulance chaser is a rotten apple.
if you have to ask how what it costs, you can't afford it. _ A dealer who I haven't seen in a long time maybe he's not around anymore --- told me this same thing the very first time I went to a Columbus show. I felt very intimidated, until virtually every other dealer I met at the show told me to ignore him because he was an A**hole. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Why our ambulance chaser is a rotten apple.
I didn't wait around to ask his name but that's probably him. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Greg Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:41 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Why our ambulance chaser is a rotten apple. Ah, yes, my buddy NoelNoel Dean Schiff was, without a doubt, the most unpleasant human being I ever encountered during my many years as a collector. I've dealt with pompous, egotistical jerks, crooks, and dismissive windbags, but no one matched the jaw-dropping rudeness and abrasiveness of Schiff. It was as if he had a sociopathic need to be disliked by every person he did business with. It takes a lot to piss me off...I have a very long fuse...but after one transaction with him, I was ready to bitch-slap him upside his cadaverous, pale, sucked-up face. He was the Phil Spector of poster collecting. He won't be missed. Greg Douglass Venting on Not-So-Sunny California On 2/15/2012 7:07 PM, Sean Linkenback wrote: I don't ever remember seeing Noel Dean Schiff at a Columbus show... Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint _ On Feb 15, 2012 9:04 PM, Franc mailto:fdav...@verizon.net fdav...@verizon.net wrote: if you have to ask how what it costs, you can't afford it. _ A dealer who I haven't seen in a long time maybe he's not around anymore --- told me this same thing the very first time I went to a Columbus show. I felt very intimidated, until virtually every other dealer I met at the show told me to ignore him because he was an A**hole. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2112/4812 - Release Date: 02/15/12 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!
Thanks for reminding me, John. I just requested my final value credit on the two items this jerk bought from me. If Ebay doesn;t do anything about him, we just all complain in tandem. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:15 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! Channing posted the note below about a non paying buyer who is using two different useid's and who appears to have failed to pay a number of MoPo members. The userid's are proficient911 and panosnatalia1968 I filed Non paying Bidder claims for 9 items totalling more than $100.00 and didnt receive a response from the buyer. These claims have now been finalised and I have been refunded the commissions but I see that the buyer is still registered. Just curious as to whether everyone else followed up with the non paying bidder claims because if that was done then the bidder should have been suspended by now. Regards John - Original Message - From: channinglylethomson mailto:channinglylethom...@att.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to: panosnatalia1968 I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless... Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list. Thanks, Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!
I filed two non-payments and with John's reminder , I filed and got back a final value fee. Ebay should have more than enough non-payments attached to this seller to kick him off. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of channinglylethomson Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 8:03 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! I definitely filed a non-paying bidder complaint and received my final value fee back so he certainly has a strike from me. It was on one item only. That's all I know other that what you posted here. Hopefully we'll get this guy off EBAY. I'm thinking of removing Greece as well since he's probably one of the only ones who ever buys from me from that country anyway. Good luck, Channing On Feb 16, 2012, at 4:14 PM, JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia wrote: Channing posted the note below about a non paying buyer who is using two different useid's and who appears to have failed to pay a number of MoPo members. The userid's are proficient911 and panosnatalia1968 I filed Non paying Bidder claims for 9 items totalling more than $100.00 and didnt receive a response from the buyer. These claims have now been finalised and I have been refunded the commissions but I see that the buyer is still registered. Just curious as to whether everyone else followed up with the non paying bidder claims because if that was done then the bidder should have been suspended by now. Regards John - Original Message - From: channinglylethomson To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to: panosnatalia1968 I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless... Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list. Thanks, Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!
This really pisses me off. I posted our concerns about our Greek client on Ebay's Community Board and it was removed by Ebay. Here's my original posting and Ebay notice of removal (see below). They suck big time. FRANC Hello fdavidm, We appreciate your participation in the eBay Community Center We are writing to let you know that we removed the following post. p class=mce-pI belong to a group of sellers outside ebay who sellers movie moemorabilia. We exchanged e-mail with each other and have learned that there are at least five sellers who sell on Ebay who have been burned within the last week by a buyer named panosnatalia 1968 who has gone on a shopping spree and has not paid for any of the items he purchased. Worse yet he did that a month ago to us under a different Ebay name which is proficient911. He sent everyone of us the following e-mail :span style=font-family: 'Arial Black';strongI'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless.../strong/span We've each filed disputes and received our Final Value Fees. We've even written to Ebay and asked Ebay to close this jerk's two accounts. It's been in vain however. Why won't Ebay investigate this dead-beats accounts. Why don't they protect their valued sellers? Why doesn't Safe Harbour do their job? Franc br / span style=color: #f91715; /span/p p class=mce-pspan style=color: #f91715;br //span/p In order for the community center, which is based on the eBay Community Values, to be a place where all members can feel comfortable interacting with each other, there are certain types of posts we remove when they are reported to us. The guidelines for posting in the forums are defined in the Board Usage Policy. Your post was removed for the following reason: 14: Posting listing reports or member violations. To report suspected violations, please use the online forms on the Investigations page. For clarification of this policy, please visit this page: http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/report-trading.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/report-trading.html We understand that most posts that are removed were not intentional violations. We invite you to take some time to review the Board Usage Policy via the following URL for clarification about the types of posts that we do not allow. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/everyone-boards.html http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/everyone-boards.html Again, we value your participation in the forums, and we appreciate your support. Regards, NaokoG eBay Moderation Team -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 7:15 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! Channing posted the note below about a non paying buyer who is using two different useid's and who appears to have failed to pay a number of MoPo members. The userid's are proficient911 and panosnatalia1968 I filed Non paying Bidder claims for 9 items totalling more than $100.00 and didnt receive a response from the buyer. These claims have now been finalised and I have been refunded the commissions but I see that the buyer is still registered. Just curious as to whether everyone else followed up with the non paying bidder claims because if that was done then the bidder should have been suspended by now. Regards John - Original Message - From: channinglylethomson mailto:channinglylethom...@att.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to: panosnatalia1968 I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless... Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list. Thanks, Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely
Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back!
If you send me the telephone number for Power Seller support, I'll call them as well. I searched for the telephone and could no longer find it. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 6:44 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! I just checked and both of his userids are still operating. I had been under the impression that if you received 3 separate non paying bidder strikes you would get suspended but maybe rule this has changed. I have blocked both IDs but who knows if he will come back with another userid. I will phone Power Seller support on Monday and see if there is anything they can do. - Original Message - From: luminita hascalovitz mailto:lhascalov...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 8:04 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! Hi All, I was also a victim of this guy under his proficient911 ID. He stiffed me on three of my auctions and I filed NPB claims on all. I am currently re-auctioning those items. Just can't believe he is still an eBay member in good standing. Does anyone know exactly how many non-paying bidder strikes it takes to be banished? MY http://www.ebay.com/sch/lobbies/m.html?_dmd=1_ipg=50_sop=12_rdc=1 NO-RESERVE EBAY AUCTIONS Take Care, Lumi (lobbies on eBay) _ Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:14:57 +1000 From: johnr...@moviemem.com Subject: Re: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Channing posted the note below about a non paying buyer who is using two different useid's and who appears to have failed to pay a number of MoPo members. The userid's are proficient911 and panosnatalia1968 I filed Non paying Bidder claims for 9 items totalling more than $100.00 and didnt receive a response from the buyer. These claims have now been finalised and I have been refunded the commissions but I see that the buyer is still registered. Just curious as to whether everyone else followed up with the non paying bidder claims because if that was done then the bidder should have been suspended by now. Regards John - Original Message - From: channinglylethomson mailto:channinglylethom...@att.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2012 9:47 AM Subject: [MOPO] A Word of Caution to EBAY Sellers here -- Our Insane Greek Buyer is Back! I just got this e-mail through EBAY about an item I sold to: panosnatalia1968 I'm really,really SORRY,! Please,understand the economic collapse of Greece is inevitable, and cancel the transaction. Forgive me for all the trouble I caused you, but,unfortunatelly, I am not capable of paying you. Money is so tied, and I foolisly got carried away with this item. I'm not a crook or a rogue trader. Just a simple joe, who made a mistake. Thank you, and please (again) I'm deeply sorry, so I expect your leniency. God Bless... Be sure and put him on a blocked bidder list. Thanks, Channing Thomson Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type
Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs
Frankly, I get pissed off when celebrities come to a show and won't allow anyone to take their photo such as Ann-Margaret or won't sign personal items you've brought such as Sam J. Jones. You wonder why did they bother coming to a celebrity autograph show?. I have no problem however with them asking for money for this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:21 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Not sure if Mike's Right or Wrong question pertains to the celebrities selling their autographs at shows or the buyers selling their signed merchandise. Either way, it's a legal living unless they are forged. Nothing wrong with it. I get a kick out of meeting the child stars like Jay North, Paul Peterson, Jon Provost, Mary Badham, Erin Murphy, etc. at some of the events. But sometimes can't help wondering why they would spend an entire day or weekend seated behind a table selling their autographs for $10 each or posing with you for pictures for the same price. Sports figures sometimes have an autograph clause in their contracts requiring them to appear at exhibitions, sign autographs and generate income for the sponsors. From: Claude Litton twoni...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs you ask if it is RIGHT OR WRONG What is wrong with selling something you have that someone else wants and is willing to pay for it. In addition it matters not how it was acquired . If you own it and want to sell it - go for it. I'll give you an example. What about those who sell the catalogs they get free from Heritage? Claude In a message dated 2/20/2012 10:56:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dialmbb...@aol.com writes: read the last posting dated January Jan 11, 2012 of the link below http://www.horrorhound.com/forums/viewthread.aspx?g=11f=18t=8242 i know that some ballplayers appearing at sport shows charge for autographs. OJ !!! some celebrities do, likewise. is that right or wrong ? keep in mind, many people, including MOPOers have told that they mail inserts, photographs to film-stars, include a return envelope and ask for an autograph, which receive gracious responses. (obviously more stories like that years ago before a celebrity died) michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs
I was actually at an autograph in which Ann-Margaret was the star attraction and there was a huge sign announcing no photos. She was however selling her own photos and autographs. I thought that was ridiculous. I was also at a show with Sam J. Jones. I was willing to pay him to autograph things I brought auch as the one sheet from Flash Gordon and his centerfold but he was only willing to autograph the photo repro crap he brought with him. Admittedly I wanted to re-sell that stuff on Ebay but he didn't know that. He told me he was in a different place now. I wanted to inform him that he was at a tacky celebrity show in Burbank but I didn't bother. If celebrities don't want to be photographed in a public place, I can almost understand that but if they actually come to a celebrity show to sell their autographs and their photos, I can't fathom why they wouldn't allow a fan to take a photo with them or to autograph a personal memorabilia that a fan has brought especially when the fan would pay for this dubious honor. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:59 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc.. I agree that people saying don't take my picture when they are in a public place is also ridiculous. You are in a public place and when companies are filming movies in a casino (for instance) there are signs up explaining that being in the general area constitutes your agreement to be filmed without remuneration. Why should that apply to me, but not Ann-Margret?? At 11:41 AM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: Frankly, I get pissed off when celebrities come to a show and won't allow anyone to take their photo such as Ann-Margaret or won't sign personal items you've brought such as Sam J. Jones. You wonder why did they bother coming to a celebrity autograph show?. I have no problem however with them asking for money for this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU ] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:21 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Not sure if Mike's Right or Wrong question pertains to the celebrities selling their autographs at shows or the buyers selling their signed merchandise. Either way, it's a legal living unless they are forged. Nothing wrong with it. I get a kick out of meeting the child stars like Jay North, Paul Peterson, Jon Provost, Mary Badham, Erin Murphy, etc. at some of the events. But sometimes can't help wondering why they would spend an entire day or weekend seated behind a table selling their autographs for $10 each or posing with you for pictures for the same price. Sports figures sometimes have an autograph clause in their contracts requiring them to appear at exhibitions, sign autographs and generate income for the sponsors. From: Claude Litton twoni...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs you ask if it is RIGHT OR WRONG What is wrong with selling something you have that someone else wants and is willing to pay for it. In addition it matters not how it was acquired . If you own it and want to sell it - go for it. I'll give you an example. What about those who sell the catalogs they get free from Heritage? Claude In a message dated 2/20/2012 10:56:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dialmbb...@aol.com writes: read the last posting dated January Jan 11, 2012 of the link below http://www.horrorhound.com/forums/viewthread.aspx?g=11 http://www.horrorhound.com/forums/viewthread.aspx?g=11f=18t=8242 f=18t=8242 i know that some ballplayers appearing at sport shows charge for autographs. OJ !!! some celebrities do, likewise. is that right or wrong ? keep in mind, many people, including MOPOers have told that they mail inserts, photographs to film-stars, include a return envelope and ask for an autograph, which receive gracious responses. (obviously more stories like that years ago before a celebrity died) michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
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I don't even object to that. I just object to celebrities being at these shows and then refusing to sign a personal item or be in a photo with you no matter the price you're willing to pay. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:16 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc one of the things that I do think is fairly retarded is that at the Hollywood show, many stars will charge you an extra $5 to sign the item you walked in with. let's do the math $30 for me to give you my photo that cost me money with my autograph. $35 for your photo which cost me nothing if anything, it should be reversed - $25 to sign your photo At 12:09 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I was actually at an autograph in which Ann-Margaret was the star attraction and there was a huge sign announcing no photos. She was however selling her own photos and autographs. I thought that was ridiculous. I was also at a show with Sam J. Jones. I was willing to pay him to autograph things I brought auch as the one sheet from Flash Gordon and his centerfold but he was only willing to autograph the photo repro crap he brought with him. Admittedly I wanted to re-sell that stuff on Ebay but he didn't know that. He told me he was in a different place now. I wanted to inform him that he was at a tacky celebrity show in Burbank but I didn't bother. If celebrities don't want to be photographed in a public place, I can almost understand that but if they actually come to a celebrity show to sell their autographs and their photos, I can't fathom why they wouldn't allow a fan to take a photo with them or to autograph a personal memorabilia that a fan has brought especially when the fan would pay for this dubious honor. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:59 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc.. I agree that people saying don't take my picture when they are in a public place is also ridiculous. You are in a public place and when companies are filming movies in a casino (for instance) there are signs up explaining that being in the general area constitutes your agreement to be filmed without remuneration. Why should that apply to me, but not Ann-Margret?? At 11:41 AM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: Frankly, I get pissed off when celebrities come to a show and won't allow anyone to take their photo such as Ann-Margaret or won't sign personal items you've brought such as Sam J. Jones. You wonder why did they bother coming to a celebrity autograph show?. I have no problem however with them asking for money for this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:21 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Not sure if Mike's Right or Wrong question pertains to the celebrities selling their autographs at shows or the buyers selling their signed merchandise. Either way, it's a legal living unless they are forged. Nothing wrong with it. I get a kick out of meeting the child stars like Jay North, Paul Peterson, Jon Provost, Mary Badham, Erin Murphy, etc. at some of the events. But sometimes can't help wondering why they would spend an entire day or weekend seated behind a table selling their autographs for $10 each or posing with you for pictures for the same price. Sports figures sometimes have an autograph clause in their contracts requiring them to appear at exhibitions, sign autographs and generate income for the sponsors. From: Claude Litton twoni...@aol.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs you ask if it is RIGHT OR WRONG What is wrong with selling something you have that someone else wants and is willing to pay for it. In addition it matters not how it was acquired . If you own it and want to sell it - go for it. I'll give you an example. What about those who sell the catalogs they get free from Heritage? Claude In a message dated 2/20/2012 10:56:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dialmbb...@aol.com writes: read the last posting dated January Jan 11, 2012 of the link below http://www.horrorhound.com/forums/viewthread.aspx?g=11 http://www.horrorhound.com/forums/viewthread.aspx?g=11f=18t=8242 f=18t=8242 i know that some ballplayers appearing at sport shows charge for autographs. OJ !!! some celebrities do, likewise. is that right or wrong ? keep in mind, many people, including MOPOers have told that they mail inserts, photographs to film-stars, include a return envelope and ask for an autograph, which receive gracious responses
Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs
I don't know what the folks you listed below but I know for a fact that Caroll Baker, Dorothy Lamour and many other names had a side business going in celebrity magazines in which you paid about $25 for an autographed photo. I recall too that someone had a limited collectible poster and photo business in which stars like Mae West would sign about 500 posters and get a percentage of sales. So it's been done for a whiole. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Michael B Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:18 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs does anyone have a historical perspective of this paying practice? i cannot imagine the legends like bette davis, sinatra, liz taylor, hitchcock, lucille ball would ever ask..except if 100% of the money went to a charity. did mickey mantle or babe ruth ever charge? michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs
Not all celebrities go to these shows to make money. Frances Dee was one of the wealthiest ladies in Hoolywood and she turned up on the autograph circuit iin her last days. I told her I liked her in Little Women. She insisted on giving me an autograph and refused to take any money for it. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of rixpost...@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:34 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs This is 2012, not 1940 or 1950. The celebrities realize a high percentage of the autographs they provide will be sold on eBay. I think the selling of autographs is much more of a phenomena now than it was even 20 or 30 years ago. The majority of the stars I've seen at these shows have been out of work for decades, aren't making residuals off of whatever series they might have been in and no doubt need the money they charge for autographs to pay their bills. Rick In a message dated 2/20/2012 12:18:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, dialmbb...@aol.com writes: does anyone have a historical perspective of this paying practice? i cannot imagine the legends like bette davis, sinatra, liz taylor, hitchcock, lucille ball would ever ask..except if 100% of the money went to a charity. did mickey mantle or babe ruth ever charge? michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs
I don't see it that way because each of these stars brings tons of crappy repro pictures which is mostly what they sign at the shows. I don't see a lot of folks buying posters and lobby cards from the dealers to bring over to the celebrities for autographing. Nor would the celebriies know whether or not you bought something from a dealer to be autographed or if you took it out of your personal collection. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:40 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc, as a dealer, the stars asking for more money to sign the photo you brought in is a restraint on the dealers in the room. Dealers who purposely bring items of the stars will sell fewer items to fans who would otherwise buy them to get autographed, so the actors and actresses are doing a dirty to the dealers. on the other hand, if they do not wish to be photographed with you, that is their prerogative. it's the ones who scream at the guy 20 feet away don't take my picture that I think are being foolish At 12:33 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I don't even object to that. I just object to celebrities being at these shows and then refusing to sign a personal item or be in a photo with you no matter the price you're willing to pay. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:16 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc one of the things that I do think is fairly retarded is that at the Hollywood show, many stars will charge you an extra $5 to sign the item you walked in with. let's do the math $30 for me to give you my photo that cost me money with my autograph. $35 for your photo which cost me nothing if anything, it should be reversed - $25 to sign your photo At 12:09 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I was actually at an autograph in which Ann-Margaret was the star attraction and there was a huge sign announcing no photos. She was however selling her own photos and autographs. I thought that was ridiculous. I was also at a show with Sam J. Jones. I was willing to pay him to autograph things I brought auch as the one sheet from Flash Gordon and his centerfold but he was only willing to autograph the photo repro crap he brought with him. Admittedly I wanted to re-sell that stuff on Ebay but he didn't know that. He told me he was in a different place now. I wanted to inform him that he was at a tacky celebrity show in Burbank but I didn't bother. If celebrities don't want to be photographed in a public place, I can almost understand that but if they actually come to a celebrity show to sell their autographs and their photos, I can't fathom why they wouldn't allow a fan to take a photo with them or to autograph a personal memorabilia that a fan has brought especially when the fan would pay for this dubious honor. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:59 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc.. I agree that people saying don't take my picture when they are in a public place is also ridiculous. You are in a public place and when companies are filming movies in a casino (for instance) there are signs up explaining that being in the general area constitutes your agreement to be filmed without remuneration. Why should that apply to me, but not Ann-Margret?? At 11:41 AM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: Frankly, I get pissed off when celebrities come to a show and won't allow anyone to take their photo such as Ann-Margaret or won't sign personal items you've brought such as Sam J. Jones. You wonder why did they bother coming to a celebrity autograph show?. I have no problem however with them asking for money for this. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 12:21 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Not sure if Mike's Right or Wrong question pertains to the celebrities selling their autographs at shows or the buyers selling their signed merchandise. Either way, it's a legal living unless they are forged. Nothing wrong with it. I get a kick out of meeting the child stars like Jay North, Paul Peterson, Jon Provost, Mary Badham, Erin Murphy, etc. at some of the events. But sometimes can't help wondering why they would spend an entire day or weekend seated behind a table selling their autographs for $10 each or posing with you for pictures for the same price. Sports figures sometimes have an autograph clause in their contracts requiring them to appear at exhibitions, sign
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I don't understand the point your making. Take my example of Sam J. Jones. I brought him over a One sheet from Flash Gordon and a centerfold. They were items I owned but for all he knew I might have bought the One sheet from you at the show and maybe the centerfold from some magazine dealer at the show. By refusing to sign both, which he did, he could easily curtail your sales of his memorabilia, as well as any other dealer who brought Same J. Jones memorabilia with them to sell. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:55 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc, the simple fact that they charge extra to sign an item you carried over to them is an action all by itself that makes consumers not buy more items to bring over. The star doesn't have to be targeting dealers to put the dealers in a situation where they make less money At 12:51 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I don't see it that way because each of these stars brings tons of crappy repro pictures which is mostly what they sign at the shows. I don't see a lot of folks buying posters and lobby cards from the dealers to bring over to the celebrities for autographing. Nor would the celebriies know whether or not you bought something from a dealer to be autographed or if you took it out of your personal collection. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:40 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc, as a dealer, the stars asking for more money to sign the photo you brought in is a restraint on the dealers in the room. Dealers who purposely bring items of the stars will sell fewer items to fans who would otherwise buy them to get autographed, so the actors and actresses are doing a dirty to the dealers. on the other hand, if they do not wish to be photographed with you, that is their prerogative. it's the ones who scream at the guy 20 feet away don't take my picture that I think are being foolish At 12:33 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I don't even object to that. I just object to celebrities being at these shows and then refusing to sign a personal item or be in a photo with you no matter the price you're willing to pay. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:16 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc one of the things that I do think is fairly retarded is that at the Hollywood show, many stars will charge you an extra $5 to sign the item you walked in with. let's do the math $30 for me to give you my photo that cost me money with my autograph. $35 for your photo which cost me nothing if anything, it should be reversed - $25 to sign your photo At 12:09 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I was actually at an autograph in which Ann-Margaret was the star attraction and there was a huge sign announcing no photos. She was however selling her own photos and autographs. I thought that was ridiculous. I was also at a show with Sam J. Jones. I was willing to pay him to autograph things I brought auch as the one sheet from Flash Gordon and his centerfold but he was only willing to autograph the photo repro crap he brought with him. Admittedly I wanted to re-sell that stuff on Ebay but he didn't know that. He told me he was in a different place now. I wanted to inform him that he was at a tacky celebrity show in Burbank but I didn't bother. If celebrities don't want to be photographed in a public place, I can almost understand that but if they actually come to a celebrity show to sell their autographs and their photos, I can't fathom why they wouldn't allow a fan to take a photo with them or to autograph a personal memorabilia that a fan has brought especially when the fan would pay for this dubious honor. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 2:59 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc.. I agree that people saying don't take my picture when they are in a public place is also ridiculous. You are in a public place and when companies are filming movies in a casino (for instance) there are signs up explaining that being in the general area constitutes your agreement to be filmed without remuneration. Why should that apply to me, but not Ann-Margret?? At 11:41 AM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: Frankly, I get pissed off when celebrities come to a show and won't allow anyone to take their photo such as Ann-Margaret or won't sign personal items you've brought such as Sam J. Jones. You wonder why
Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs
I think it depends on the poster and who's autographing it. I have some lobby cards from To Kill A Mockingbird autographed by Gregory Peck which for me enhances the value of the cards because he is so identified with that film. On the other hand, I really wouldn't want my Psycho house card to have been autographed by either Tony Perkins or Janet Leigh and certainly not Vera Miles. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Rodney Sims Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 7:17 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs Am I alone in not wanting items - particularly rare ones - to be scrawled over with sharpies? Luckily a man who was very interested in my UK Wicker Man 1 sheet (who proposed to get everyone still alive from the movie to sign it) gave it a miss, and it finally went to a good home instead. However, I was genuinely poised not to sell it to him, because it would have been ruined - a poster no longer, just the receptacle of some retired actors' signatures. It's not like these posters are falling out the trees! Rodney _ Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 12:59:17 -0800 From: neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I'd like to know if anyone has been put in the tricky situation of NOT wanting someone to autograph an item? Did, for example, any of you once get your Forbidden Planet 1sh autographed by Leslie Nielsen at an event and then have to grab the sharpie out of the hand of non-featured player before they also signed? Neil _ From: John Waldman jhnwald...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, 20 February 2012, 20:52 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs I think the difference is a celebrity signing one autograph for a fan in the comfort of their home is one thing. But when the celebrity is traveling and signing 100's of signatures at a show, that's a whole different deal. Who's going to do that for free? JW From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Fwd: [MOPO] paying for autographs WHO FERGIN CARES IF THEY CHARGED OR NOT WHY SHOULD SOMEONE GIVE YOU SOMETHING FOR FREE THAT HAS A CASH VALUE DO YOU DONATE YOUR PROFITS TO CHARITY?? AND IF YOU THINK MICKEY MANTLE NEVER CHARGED FOR HIS AUTOGRAPH - YOU NEVER WENT TO A BASEBALL CARD SHOW At 12:18 PM 2/20/2012, Michael B wrote: does anyone have a historical perspective of this paying practice? i cannot imagine the legends like bette davis, sinatra, liz taylor, hitchcock, lucille ball would ever ask..except if 100% of the money went to a charity. did mickey mantle or babe ruth ever charge? michael Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs
I guess I sort of understand that but if the celebrity is going to refuse to sign someone's personal memorabilia the celebrity should take into account that he's going to lose his autograph fee, which is exactly what happened to Sam J. Jones in my case since I didn't want any of the reprints that he was willing to sign. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:17 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Let me explain. Some celebrities feel that only they should be able to benefit from sales of their image. Especially in a show where they are present. Imagine a celebrity being asked to sign a real cool looking image, which is a repro, and again and again fans show up with the same image to be autographed, just because another dealer at that show has a whole stack for sale.. It doesn't come out of their pocket, but you can understand if that celebrity gets jealous or upset. Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Franc Sent: February 20, 2012 4:03 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs I don't understand the point your making. Take my example of Sam J. Jones. I brought him over a One sheet from Flash Gordon and a centerfold. They were items I owned but for all he knew I might have bought the One sheet from you at the show and maybe the centerfold from some magazine dealer at the show. By refusing to sign both, which he did, he could easily curtail your sales of his memorabilia, as well as any other dealer who brought Same J. Jones memorabilia with them to sell. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:55 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc, the simple fact that they charge extra to sign an item you carried over to them is an action all by itself that makes consumers not buy more items to bring over. The star doesn't have to be targeting dealers to put the dealers in a situation where they make less money At 12:51 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I don't see it that way because each of these stars brings tons of crappy repro pictures which is mostly what they sign at the shows. I don't see a lot of folks buying posters and lobby cards from the dealers to bring over to the celebrities for autographing. Nor would the celebriies know whether or not you bought something from a dealer to be autographed or if you took it out of your personal collection. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:40 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc, as a dealer, the stars asking for more money to sign the photo you brought in is a restraint on the dealers in the room. Dealers who purposely bring items of the stars will sell fewer items to fans who would otherwise buy them to get autographed, so the actors and actresses are doing a dirty to the dealers. on the other hand, if they do not wish to be photographed with you, that is their prerogative. it's the ones who scream at the guy 20 feet away don't take my picture that I think are being foolish At 12:33 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I don't even object to that. I just object to celebrities being at these shows and then refusing to sign a personal item or be in a photo with you no matter the price you're willing to pay. FRANC -Original Message- From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art [ mailto:sa...@comic-art.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 3:16 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Franc one of the things that I do think is fairly retarded is that at the Hollywood show, many stars will charge you an extra $5 to sign the item you walked in with. let's do the math $30 for me to give you my photo that cost me money with my autograph. $35 for your photo which cost me nothing if anything, it should be reversed - $25 to sign your photo At 12:09 PM 2/20/2012, Franc wrote: I was actually at an autograph in which Ann-Margaret was the star attraction and there was a huge sign announcing no photos. She was however selling her own photos and autographs. I thought that was ridiculous. I was also at a show with Sam J. Jones. I was willing to pay him to autograph things I brought auch as the one sheet from Flash Gordon and his centerfold but he was only willing to autograph the photo repro crap he brought with him. Admittedly I wanted to re-sell that stuff on Ebay but he didn't know that. He told me he was in a different place now. I wanted to inform him that he was at a tacky celebrity show in Burbank but I didn't bother. If celebrities
Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs
In the early days of Ebay, I had an Audrey Nepburn autograph signed on a repro card from Funny Face and I sold it for $450. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Doug Taylor Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 7:29 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs I have a couple of signed AA awards programs. I've never collected an autograph myself. I was lucky enough to meet many at the awards, from Audrey Hepburn to Carey Grant, but never asked for an autograph or a picture. I've often wondered what a nice picture collection I'd have, but I always felt so lucky to have tickets that I never wanted to abuse the privilege in any way. Regards DBT Sent via mobile device -Original Message- From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 00:23:14 To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs a big yes to director's sigs, if anyone has a Lubitsch-signed 'To Be Or Not To Be' poster let me know. I'm sure there are hundreds out there. failing that, i'll even take a Mackendrick-signed Sweet Smell Of Success. i'm not an unreasonable man. but i have never bought a signed movie item, other than a George C Scott autograph that i bought from from a NY autograph dealer for $25. I didn't have much interest in the signature other than it was on a Dr. Strangelove window card. From: Simon Oram fab5fre...@btinternet.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, 22 February 2012, 0:14 Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Let's be honest here a first edition Clockwork Orange quad signed by Stanley Kubrick equals, very desirable, I would imagine in this case it would add to the price of the poster itself but signed by McDowell and you have a misnomer. Can't really think of too many people who I would want sigs of on posters, I suppose these would be the only ones Samuel Fuller, Nicholas Ray, Hitchcock and be nice to have a Vertigo signed by Saul Bass, director's sigs seem a very nice touch for a poster. Stars on posters not interested at all. Like books with the authors sigs films with the directors seems more right to me. Simon From: Richard C Evans mailto:evan...@mac.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 10:49 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Got a few posters signed by Kubrick though a friend working at WB. Normally I really don't like signed posters, though with these perhaps there's a sense of a tenuous connection to Kubrick even if all that amounted to was the message passed back, Stanley says he doesn't want to see these coming up in auction in the next few years. Can far more easily understand the appeal of signed first edition books. The Fleming's go for a lot of money, imagine anything signed by Chandler would be very desirable, (Rich would know better, is that a holy grail?). Can't imagine Chandler as an agreeable or promiscuous signer. That was a great story about Paul Newman, and Helmut's preventing the guy signing the CFTBL with gold pen. On 21 Feb 2012, at 19:21, Zeev Drach wrote: Maybe he figured that after his refusal you'll come to your senses and settle for one of his prints. After all, it is HIS autograph you're standing in line for, right? Or so he thinks. Zeev From: Franc [mailto:fdav...@verizon.net] Sent: February 21, 2012 12:30 PM To: 'Zeev Drach'; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: RE: [MOPO] paying for autographs I guess I sort of understand that but if the celebrity is going to refuse to sign someone's personal memorabilia the celebrity should take into account that he's going to lose his autograph fee, which is exactly what happened to Sam J. Jones in my case since I didn't want any of the reprints that he was willing to sign. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:17 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] paying for autographs Let me explain. Some celebrities feel that only they should be able to benefit from sales of their image. Especially in a show where they are present. Imagine a celebrity being asked to sign a real cool looking image, which is a repro, and again and again fans show up with the same image to be autographed, just because another dealer at that show has a whole stack for sale.. It doesn't come out of their pocket, but you can understand if that celebrity gets jealous or upset. Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Franc Sent: February 20, 2012 4:03 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who buy the tickets. And in a day when movies face more and more competition from all sorts of other kinds of entertainment, it may not be just the awards ceremony that sees its number of viewers continuing to fall in coming years. This was once must-viewing for me. and I have watched it every year, but I think I will skip it next year. Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our auctions http
Re: [MOPO] The Oscars
Yes, I thought that was wierd too but at least he didn't get Best Director or Best film. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Posteropolis Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:07 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Franc, Woody got Best Original Screenplay, which I thought was weird, considering what a tired idea for a movie it was. Dave - Original Message - From: Franc mailto:fdav...@verizon.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars I actually thought it was one of the LEAST boring Oscar telecasts I've seen in a long time but then again I record the show on my DVR and only began to watch it at around 9.30 PM EST with a remote control in my hand. By the time 11 o'clock rolled around I was completely caught up, having not listened to any of the acceptance speeches I wasn't interested in or the commercials. (You do the math on that one.) I thought Billy Crystal got it right almost all night. I thought some of the choices on the video packages were strange especially the In Memorial segment which featured almost all still photos, odd for an event celebrating motion pictures. I didn't miss having to sit through the two ghastly Best Songs but the package assembled for Best Movie of the Year was wrong-headed, intercutting the clips from the best films so that one never got a taste for any of the nine films, just a stupid idea. I wasn't too upset with the actual awards last night, although I wish Hugo had taken either Best Movie or Best Direction. I was frankly expecting an old guard backlash with the totally ordinary The Descendants and George Clooney winning top awards and I'm glad that didn't happen. I would have preferred Viola Davis or Michelle Williams rather than Meryl Streep winning for a strong performance in an absolutely ghastly film but I'm also glad Woody Allen didn't win for his latest warmed-over opus. I guess I'm mellowing. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Joseph Bonelli Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 9:55 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The Oscars Sorry to disagree, Bruce, but several of us thought that, though it wasn't the greatest, that last night's Oscar presentation at LEAST paid attention to the professionals, living and passed on, who make up the world of movies...unlike the last two years when the production tried to cater to the People's Choice and Teeny-bop Awards. We could actually see the entire audience in the beautiful theatre last night-- instead of having it decorated like a studio for a game show, complete with peanut gallerey screaming, Pick me! Sorry, but SOMEONE has to take the higher road. I believe that OSCAR needs to be that someone. There is a huge international audience for the Oscars which negates the necessity to cater to the US's Text-Sending Teeny-Set. Don't worry about them.. Michael Bay the Vampire Crew. will see to it that they are well entertained and spend lots and lots of mommy-daddy money at the concession stands...and the grownups can snooze with pleasure through an Oscar program that honors Hugo rather than Transformers. When Oscar becomes the People's Choice, excellence in film will be buried under a heap of poot jokes and CGI. Sorry if my comments seem old-fashioned, but that's the way this movie fan sees it. Joe B in NOLA PS-- I thought the awards were well-apportioned on the whole. This year was all about the Nomination being the thing--- an excellent year for film. PPS-- But the choice NOT to bestow special honors on the Potter series with it's decade-long history of excellence in everything, was unfortunate...the night's biggest failing in my estimation. Joe From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 6:55 AM Subject: [MOPO] The Oscars It's the morning after, and overall, I thought it was a real snoozefest, Billy Crystal was entertaining, but SO familiar in everything he did and said. And was I the only one who kept wondering if he might have looked and performed better if he hadn't had his very obvious plastic surgery? And isn't it a bad sign when the best segment was the circus art, which has zero to do with movies. It hit me when they did the In Memorium segment, and there were tons of behind the scenes people no one knows, with a few famous faces thrown in. They have successfully turned the Oscars into the Golden Globes, filled with insiders and inside jokes, where they pretty much ignore the viewing public, and give the awards to the movies THEY like. the kind that the critics fawn over, but which not many people actually see. Of course, this transformation has been going on for many years, but at least they used to pretend to care about the people who make it all possible, those who
Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING NUMBERS
I always post through USPS and you automatically get tracking #s with Priority Mail. I use Stamps.com for regular Internation Air Mail but their tracking #s are virtually worthless and I'm not sure if Ebay will accept them as proof of tracking. I'm presuming Ebay is doing this so that all sellers will eventually ship by Priority Mail since it's a pain in the ass to do otherwise and since Ebay now realizes a commission on shipping, this will ultimately increase the amount of their commission. I'm not entirely sure how they'll be able ro enforce this however. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 2:52 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING NUMBERS Rick if you get your postage at Paypal, tracking #'s are free for priority mail not sure if it is for first class or not but everyone should use tracking numbers anyway Rich At 10:54 AM 2/28/2012, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, Everyone, I just received notification from eBay that as of June 1st, all packages sent out by Sellers will be required to have a tracking number...all packages. Even some guy in Podunk U.S.A. who sends out 100 packages a day, each one containing a near-worthless trinket he's sold for 50 cents as of June 1st will be forced by the powers-that-be at eBay to spend 70 cents extra per package to the Post Office for a friggin' tracking number. Let's see...that'll only cost Mr. Seller from Podunk an extra 70 bucks a day...and the trinket he's sending out is only worth 50 cents! I don't know if other sellers agree with me, but I think eBay is truly crossing the line here. It's one thing if they raise their rates (which they've done many times). I can begrudgingly accept that. But to issue me a decree that I must provide a tracking number to them for every package I ship as of June 1st makes me think that eBay is getting to be more and more like Big Brother every day. I'd like to hear if other sellers on eBay agree with me or not. If you do agree, I'd suggest you give eBay a call and let them know what you think about it. I just got off the phone after making a call to eBay. The airhead on the other end was obviously lock-step with eBay's latest plan. Of course, in their email they emphasize how many rewards they plan to give us as sellers, treating us like a bunch of imbeciles who aren't fully aware of how transparent their B.S. has become. Hey, you can dip a turd in chocolate and cover it with a rainbow of sprinkles, but it's still a friggin' turd. (Sorry about such a crude metaphor, but as you can tell, I'm not pleased with this...) Rick rixposterz Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING ...
If you purchase Priority Mail through USPS.com it comes with free tracking and delivery confirmation. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of rixpost...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:14 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING ... Hi, Rich, I just spoke with a rep at PayPal and she said that they do not provide a free tracking number if a package is sent through them, whether it's sent by Priority or not. She said the fee through them is exactly the same as you pat through the Post Office, which is 70 cents. Rick In a message dated 2/28/2012 12:05:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: the only $ ebay gets from me is money they charge sellers I buy from this doesn't mean I don't hear you. I loved it in 2001 when I was making an average of 8k a month on ebay at an annual cost of about $5000+ now ebay totally sucks for sellers IMO and every time they have those free listing days it totally sucks for buyers At 12:01 PM 2/28/2012, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, Rich, Hey, I have nothing against tracking numbers. In fact, I use them quite a bit. The thing that bothers me is how an edict is being passed down by eBay. I think the decision should be up to the seller. Guess I just don't like being told what to do by a company that already is taking so much of my money... Rick In a message dated 2/28/2012 11:52:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: Rick if you get your postage at Paypal, tracking #'s are free for priority mail not sure if it is for first class or not but everyone should use tracking numbers anyway Rich At 10:54 AM 2/28/2012, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, Everyone, I just received notification from eBay that as of June 1st, all packages sent out by Sellers will be required to have a tracking number...all packages. Even some guy in Podunk U.S.A. who sends out 100 packages a day, each one containing a near-worthless trinket he's sold for 50 cents as of June 1st will be forced by the powers-that-be at eBay to spend 70 cents extra per package to the Post Office for a friggin' tracking number. Let's see...that'll only cost Mr. Seller from Podunk an extra 70 bucks a day...and the trinket he's sending out is only worth 50 cents! I don't know if other sellers agree with me, but I think eBay is truly crossing the line here. It's one thing if they raise their rates (which they've done many times). I can begrudgingly accept that. But to issue me a decree that I must provide a tracking number to them for every package I ship as of June 1st makes me think that eBay is getting to be more and more like Big Brother every day. I'd like to hear if other sellers on eBay agree with me or not. If you do agree, I'd suggest you give eBay a call and let them know what you think about it. I just got off the phone after making a call to eBay. The airhead on the other end was obviously lock-step with eBay's latest plan. Of course, in their email they emphasize how many rewards they plan to give us as sellers, treating us like a bunch of imbeciles who aren't fully aware of how transparent their B.S. has become. Hey, you can dip a turd in chocolate and cover it with a rainbow of sprinkles, but it's still a friggin' turd. (Sorry about such a crude metaphor, but as you can tell, I'm not pleased with this...) Rick rixposterz Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING ...
I'm suspecting that when you purchase postage through PayPal you don't the free tracking and deliver confirmation that USPS.com provides. USPS also discounts the postage so that it's cheaper to buy it on-line rather than buy it at the local post office in the company of a totally unpleasant postal clerk. I'm not sure if PayPal does the same. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:20 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING ... I should add - unless Paypal changed their deal in the past few months the easiest way to find out if do sample costs by USPS Paypal to see what comes out At 12:13 PM 2/28/2012, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, Rich, I just spoke with a rep at PayPal and she said that they do not provide a free tracking number if a package is sent through them, whether it's sent by Priority or not. She said the fee through them is exactly the same as you pat through the Post Office, which is 70 cents. Rick In a message dated 2/28/2012 12:05:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: the only $ ebay gets from me is money they charge sellers I buy from this doesn't mean I don't hear you. I loved it in 2001 when I was making an average of 8k a month on ebay at an annual cost of about $5000+ now ebay totally sucks for sellers IMO and every time they have those free listing days it totally sucks for buyers At 12:01 PM 2/28/2012, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, Rich, Hey, I have nothing against tracking numbers. In fact, I use them quite a bit. The thing that bothers me is how an edict is being passed down by eBay. I think the decision should be up to the seller. Guess I just don't like being told what to do by a company that already is taking so much of my money... Rick In a message dated 2/28/2012 11:52:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: Rick if you get your postage at Paypal, tracking #'s are free for priority mail not sure if it is for first class or not but everyone should use tracking numbers anyway Rich At 10:54 AM 2/28/2012, rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Hi, Everyone, I just received notification from eBay that as of June 1st, all packages sent out by Sellers will be required to have a tracking number...all packages. Even some guy in Podunk U.S.A. who sends out 100 packages a day, each one containing a near-worthless trinket he's sold for 50 cents as of June 1st will be forced by the powers-that-be at eBay to spend 70 cents extra per package to the Post Office for a friggin' tracking number. Let's see...that'll only cost Mr. Seller from Podunk an extra 70 bucks a day...and the trinket he's sending out is only worth 50 cents! I don't know if other sellers agree with me, but I think eBay is truly crossing the line here. It's one thing if they raise their rates (which they've done many times). I can begrudgingly accept that. But to issue me a decree that I must provide a tracking number to them for every package I ship as of June 1st makes me think that eBay is getting to be more and more like Big Brother every day. I'd like to hear if other sellers on eBay agree with me or not. If you do agree, I'd suggest you give eBay a call and let them know what you think about it. I just got off the phone after making a call to eBay. The airhead on the other end was obviously lock-step with eBay's latest plan. Of course, in their email they emphasize how many rewards they plan to give us as sellers, treating us like a bunch of imbeciles who aren't fully aware of how transparent their B.S. has become. Hey, you can dip a turd in chocolate and cover it with a rainbow of sprinkles, but it's still a friggin' turd. (Sorry about such a crude metaphor, but as you can tell, I'm not pleased with this...) Rick rixposterz Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web
Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING NUMBERS
This release makes it sound as if it's not mandatory to have tracking #s for all purchases but if you don't, you won't be able to be a top-rated seller and won't participate in Ebay's crappy seller commission discount. You know what. It's not worth it to me to now have to upload tracking numbers or to charge my overseas customers for Priority International, so screw Ebay. I'm going to continue as I always do. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Dale Dilts Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 3:21 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] AS OF JUNE 1st, EBAY DEMANDS THAT ALL PACKAGES SENT HAVE TRACKING NUMBERS IMPORTANT INFO ON HERE TO MAINTAIN A SELLER DISCOUNT %, READ UP SELLERS. Highlights Starting with the June 20 evaluation cycle, to achieve and keep your Top-rated seller status, tracking information or a Delivery Confirmation number must be uploaded to eBay on at least 90% of your shipments to US buyers within your stated handling time. Start uploading your tracking by May 1 to make sure you qualify on June 20. Starting June 1, only those listings from Top-rated sellers that include 1-day or same day handling and a 14-day or longer return policy with a money-back option will qualify for the greatest average boost in Best Match and 20% final value fee discount. You can choose not to offer 1-day handling or a 14-day or longer returns on some or all of your listings. Based on your great track record, all your listings will continue to receive some additional exposure and a Top-rated seller badge. But only your listings with both of these services will receive the maximum exposure and 20% final value fee discount. Also starting June 1, the annual sales requirement for Top-rated status will be lowered from $3,000 to $1,000 to expand eligibility to more sellers who provide great service. Special limited-time offer-extra 5% discount to help you get started From March 1 through May 31, Top-rated sellers get a bonus 5% final value fee discount for listings with 1-day handling and minimum 14-day return policy with a money-back option. Plus your usual 20% Top-rated seller discount will still be applied on these and all your listings. So start adding these services now! Tools to help you succeed Starting this week, you'll be able to track your progress toward Top-rated seller status-including the new requirement to upload tracking on 90% of your US transactions-in your Seller Dashboard. By the end of April, current Top-rated sellers will be able to easily identify those listings that don't include 1-day handling and a minimum 14-day return policy with a money-back option, and then edit those listings in bulk. This information will be available in My eBay Selling, Selling Manager and Selling Manager Pro. Starting the week of May 2, sellers will begin getting access to business policies, a new way to manage your own custom settings for shipping, payments and returns from one central location, rather than specifying the information separately on each listing. Using business policies, you can create settings that qualify your listings for eBay Top-rated seller discounts and apply these settings to your listings-or to a specific group of existing listings-with just a few clicks. Also starting the week of May 28, Top-rated sellers will be invited to opt in to an easy new way to manage returns right from My eBay. Your buyer can initiate a return and print a prepaid return shipping label with a click of a button in My eBay. When you get the return, you can initiate a refund and get your final value fee credited with a single click on your end. This new process will be available to all Top-rated sellers by mid-summer. Timeline for changes Take Action Start now to think about how you can adapt your business practices to qualify for the Top-rated seller program and maximize your benefits. Make sure you upload tracking information or Delivery Confirmation on all your US transactions within your stated handling time. eBay will begin counting your transactions toward the new requirement starting May 1. One great way to meet this requirement is to use eBay Labels-USPSR Delivery ConfirmationT is now free for First-Class Package service and automatically uploaded to eBay. Start now to add 1-day handling time and a minimum 14-day return policy with money-back option to your listings whenever possible. Remember, from March 1 through May 31, Top-rated sellers will get a bonus 5% final value fee discount for listings with 1-day handling and minimum 14-day return policy with money-back option. Plus the usual 20% Top-rated seller discount will still be applied on all their listings. If you're an existing Top-rated seller, at the end of April, start checking your Selling Reminders on the My eBay All Selling page or the new Listing Improvement section of the Selling Manager summary
Re: [MOPO] Davy Jones of the Monkees 1945-2012
WOW! I saw him in Oliver on Broadway as the Artful Dodger, one of the first Broadway shows I had ever seen. I never saw the TV series though to this day. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Neil Jaworski Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:39 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Davy Jones of the Monkees 1945-2012 Like me, Davy Jones hailed from Manchester. He always struck me as a really nice talented guy ( preternaturally youthful). Very sad news, but a great legacy. N _ From: Scott Burns s...@columbus.rr.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, 29 February 2012, 18:30 Subject: [MOPO] Davy Jones of the Monkees 1945-2012 I feel my childhood passing before my eyes.Davy Jones of the Monkees gone from a heart attack at age 66. http://todayentertainment.today.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/29/10540912-monk ees-star-davy-jones-dies-at-66 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Oscar Sale Brings in More Than $3 Million
I always felt awards were essentially like gifts. Once you give a gift, it's no longer yours and the recipient can do whatever he or she wants with it. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:39 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Oscar Sale Brings in More Than $3 Million It's too bad the rule about the selling of statues wasnt put into place until 1950. What a true shame that some of the greatest awards from films like KANE, GWTW etc as well as to those actors who were in these films are sitting on private mantles or office shelves where no one else or the film community can enjoy or have visual access to them. A great article and read. I agree wit this sentiment: The auction is being condemned by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, which jealously guards ownership of the golden trophies and use of the name Oscar. All 15 statuettes now up for sale were awarded before 1950. After that date, the academy began requiring winners to sign a contract stating that neither they nor their heirs would sell the Oscar without first offering it to the academy for $1. The academy, its members and the many film artists and craftspeople who've won Academy Awards believe strongly that Oscars should be won, not purchased, said academy spokeswoman Janet Hill in a statement. Unfortunately, because our winners agreement wasn't instituted until 1950, we don't have any legal means of stopping the commoditization of these particular statuettes. -Kerry On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Scott Burns s...@columbus.rr.com wrote: 15 shiny examples of probably the ultimate piece of movie memorabilia, an Academy Award, were auctioned last night, bringing in $3,060,089. None of the individual Oscars topped the record-breaking price of $861,542 paid in December 2011 for Orson Welles Citizen Kane Best Screenplay Academy Award. The collection was sold by Nate Sanders http://natedsanders.com/ . The LA times had an interesting pre-sale article about the auction: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-oscar-auction-20120225,0,17556 70.story The list of pre-1950 Oscars that sold: Herman Mankiewiczs 1941 Best Screenplay Oscar for Citizen Kane: $588,455 1933 Best Picture Oscar for Calvacade: $332,165 1931 Oscar for Best Picture Skippy: $301,973 1941 Best Picture Oscar for How Green Was My Valley: $274,520 Gregg Tolands 1939 Cinematography Oscar for Wuthering Heights: $226,876 Ronald Colman's 1947 Best Actor Oscar for A Double Life: $206,250 Hugo Friedhofer's 1946 Best Music Oscar for The Best Years of Our Lives: $187,511 Charles Coburns 1943 Best Supporting Actor Oscar for The More the Merrier: $170,459 1949 Oscar for Color Direction in Little Women: $154,962 1946 Oscar for Best Color Cinematography in The Yearling: $128,066 Daniel Mandell's 1946 film editing Oscar for The Best Years of Our Lives $116,428 Paul Groesse's 1946 Color Art Direction Oscar for The Yearling: $116,428 Farciot Edouart's 1938 Special Effects Oscar: $96,227 1942 Outstanding Transparency Special Effects Oscar for Reap the Wild Wind: $87,475 Farciot Eduoart's 1937 Bronze Tablet Oscar: $72,295 Complete story on the auction: http://www.businessinsider.com/these-auctioned-oscars-sold-for-a-recor d-breaking-3-million-2012-2#ixzz1nnC7O02A Scott MoPo List Owner Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception?
I think Voltaire figured out a long time ago that nothing's perfect in this best of all possible worlds. I think it's almost more important to give an actual written description of the condition of the poster or lobby card including any flaws. Simply showing a photo without pointing out things that could easily be missed such as a light censor stamp or some light spotting is being somewhat less than forthright. I can totally forgive the photo shop color corrections because in many cases to not photo shop the photo will result in a poster looking totally washed out or (worse yet) totally browned, when in real life it is not. Provided there's a return policy for dissatisfied buyers, I have no problem with correcting color in a photo shop application. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:22 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? While I'd far rather sellers made a concerted effort to accurately represent lots, I can perhaps forgive a little tweak for improved presentation. Though when something looks too vivid I think most collectors can easily spot it, so it seems a pointless exercise. Besides, aren't collectors interested in paper that is actually old? I'd just raised one particularly bad example on NSFGE. I sold a Maltese Falcon Window card at Heritage a few years back. That one was, to my eye, accurately represented. They're selling a superior example in the upcoming sale, and unless it's a particularly bizarre printing anomaly, they've seriously overdone it. Terribly garish, reds look dayglo, lighter colours bleaching out. They're really not doing the piece justice, it looks repulsive. That said, and even leaving aside the Berwick lots, I think it's a particularly good and interesting sale. On 3 Mar 2012, at 12:59, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I received this e-mail from a customer yesterday: The lobby card which I bought in the Tuesday February 14 auction arrived today in perfect condition, thanks to your superlative packing. I am delighted with the card, which is my favorite of all lobby cards. In fact, it actually looks even better in reality than in your scans, as the super-sized image brings up even the tiniest imperfection very clearly. I know nobody else who provides this enlargement service so you can see exactly what you are buying. I replied as follows: Thank you very much for your kind words! I have been buying through the mail for over 40 years, and I have always been amazed how many sellers would try to deceive you with poor quality photos that hide defects. Now, with modern day scanners, you can make scans that burn away defects (including even foldlines and pinholes), and people also use them to boost the colors of the item! Some people seem to feel this is just wise salesmanship, but to me it is both deceptive and thinking for the short term, because you may get the person to pay more THIS time, but you are likely to lose a customer when they see how they were deceived. The way I do things with honest images that show 'even the tiniest imperfection very clearly', as you put it, I know that I gain the customer's trust, and that they are likely to order again and again, so I think those auctions that have the other philosophy are being 'penny wise and pound foolish'. What is YOUR view on this? -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 24 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegr oupphotosignature.jpg http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/signature/20111028Frankensteinemployeegr oupphotosignature.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY
Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception?
Get a grip. Someone selling $10 lobby cards isn't going to hire James Wong Howe to shot his photos. So long as the photo is reasonable and the decription is accurate, I don't need to see an insert photo of every tiny ding on the left edge. Life is too short. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. And unless a description is written in technical, bullet point fashion, pointing out flaws, dings, rips (as well as it's positive aspects), a photo is 100% crucial. No one would buy an item with only a paragraph of descriptive text included. As far as the comments made about the limitations in photography, you not right here, Franc. Your example of a raw photo looking washed out or totally browned would mean the initial photograph was taken (or lit) incorrectly. A photographer who knows his craft would never turn over an image such as you described, saying that it can be fixed in post. And if they did, it would be the last thing he would shoot, if I had hired him. If a poster has browned due to age or paper acid content, then show it-- dont artificially lighten it or the borders in photoshop. Many (including myself), like to see the age and history of an item 70 or 80 years old. Who wants it to look like it was printed yesterday? And if there was, for example, a light censor stamp, that was difficult to see, of course, that area should be a separate detail photo, tweaked with and adjusted, to best show and see it. That, tho, is not a color boost issue. The question posed was regarding images that have been saturated or color boosted; not how photoshop can best show possible imperfections or details not seen readily. -Kerry On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Franc fdav...@verizon.net wrote: I think Voltaire figured out a long time ago that nothing's perfect in this best of all possible worlds. I think it's almost more important to give an actual written description of the condition of the poster or lobby card including any flaws. Simply showing a photo without pointing out things that could easily be missed such as a light censor stamp or some light spotting is being somewhat less than forthright. I can totally forgive the photo shop color corrections because in many cases to not photo shop the photo will result in a poster looking totally washed out or (worse yet) totally browned, when in real life it is not. Provided there's a return policy for dissatisfied buyers, I have no problem with correcting color in a photo shop application. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:22 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? While I'd far rather sellers made a concerted effort to accurately represent lots, I can perhaps forgive a little tweak for improved presentation. Though when something looks too vivid I think most collectors can easily spot it, so it seems a pointless exercise. Besides, aren't collectors interested in paper that is actually old? I'd just raised one particularly bad example on NSFGE. I sold a Maltese Falcon Window card at Heritage a few years back. That one was, to my eye, accurately represented. They're selling a superior example in the upcoming sale, and unless it's a particularly bizarre printing anomaly, they've seriously overdone it. Terribly garish, reds look dayglo, lighter colours bleaching out. They're really not doing the piece justice, it looks repulsive. That said, and even leaving aside the Berwick lots, I think it's a particularly good and interesting sale. On 3 Mar 2012, at 12:59, Bruce Hershenson wrote: I received this e-mail from a customer yesterday: The lobby card which I bought in the Tuesday February 14 auction arrived today in perfect condition, thanks to your superlative packing. I am delighted with the card, which is my favorite of all lobby cards. In fact, it actually looks even better in reality than in your scans, as the super-sized image brings up even the tiniest imperfection very clearly. I know nobody else who provides this enlargement service so you can see exactly what you are buying. I replied as follows: Thank you very much for your kind words! I have been buying through the mail for over 40 years, and I have always been amazed how many sellers would try to deceive you with poor quality photos that hide defects. Now, with modern day scanners, you can make scans that burn away defects (including even foldlines and pinholes), and people also use them to boost the colors of the item! Some people seem to feel this is just wise salesmanship, but to me it is both deceptive
Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception?
If anyone is sounding like a bitter old woman with too much time on her hands or at least enough time to manufacture a non-existent concern, it's you. Not everything in life is a matter of life or death and not every teapot has a tempest in it, as someone else has pointed out. BTW, the name is Franc. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 6:37 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? First of all, quit being and sounding like a bitter, angry old woman all the time. It is rather tedious. Second, you said photos taken can appear brown or overexposed, even tho the real image looks nothing like this. This is True.. if the one taking the image doesnt know basic photographic skills and cannot judge an image to be over or under lit (and many dont). James Wong Howe is not needed for photography 101. If you want to take photos of that look dark or browned, or so over-exposed as to be blown out, go right ahead. (this is the comment you made about images being photographed, without relying on photoshopped exposure correction, which was NOT the subject of bruce's original question anyhow. He was asking about image color being boosted or over saturated so as to look more appealing). With all due respect, Francis, go back and re-read the original post. Third, No one said an insert photo of every ding was necessary. I was commenting on adjusting the contrast of a light tax stamp that might not be visible otherwise (ALSO something you made reference to). -Kerry On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Franc fdav...@verizon.net wrote: Get a grip. Someone selling $10 lobby cards isn't going to hire James Wong Howe to shot his photos. So long as the photo is reasonable and the decription is accurate, I don't need to see an insert photo of every tiny ding on the left edge. Life is too short. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:59 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? As the saying goes, a picture is worth a thousand words. And unless a description is written in technical, bullet point fashion, pointing out flaws, dings, rips (as well as it's positive aspects), a photo is 100% crucial. No one would buy an item with only a paragraph of descriptive text included. As far as the comments made about the limitations in photography, you not right here, Franc. Your example of a raw photo looking washed out or totally browned would mean the initial photograph was taken (or lit) incorrectly. A photographer who knows his craft would never turn over an image such as you described, saying that it can be fixed in post. And if they did, it would be the last thing he would shoot, if I had hired him. If a poster has browned due to age or paper acid content, then show it-- dont artificially lighten it or the borders in photoshop. Many (including myself), like to see the age and history of an item 70 or 80 years old. Who wants it to look like it was printed yesterday? And if there was, for example, a light censor stamp, that was difficult to see, of course, that area should be a separate detail photo, tweaked with and adjusted, to best show and see it. That, tho, is not a color boost issue. The question posed was regarding images that have been saturated or color boosted; not how photoshop can best show possible imperfections or details not seen readily. -Kerry On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Franc fdav...@verizon.net wrote: I think Voltaire figured out a long time ago that nothing's perfect in this best of all possible worlds. I think it's almost more important to give an actual written description of the condition of the poster or lobby card including any flaws. Simply showing a photo without pointing out things that could easily be missed such as a light censor stamp or some light spotting is being somewhat less than forthright. I can totally forgive the photo shop color corrections because in many cases to not photo shop the photo will result in a poster looking totally washed out or (worse yet) totally browned, when in real life it is not. Provided there's a return policy for dissatisfied buyers, I have no problem with correcting color in a photo shop application. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard C Evans Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 1:22 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? While I'd far rather sellers made a concerted effort to accurately represent lots, I can perhaps forgive a little tweak for improved presentation. Though when something looks too vivid I think most collectors can easily spot it, so
Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception?
You started name-calling which in my book is a desperate attempt to silence someone. I'll repeat get a grip. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of lovenoir2 Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 8:24 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? I agree, Steve. As i mentioned earlier, this discussion has also been going on at APF. If someone wants to boost or enhance images in a book or on their own site, containing posters in their collection that are not for sale, that is all well and good. Items for sale or auction, (and especially high end items) should be shown as they truly are and appear (even after restoration or backing). No extra color enhancement should be done to an item. Ps- Others have expressed similar questions or observations, on other poster message boards, franc. And isnt the purpose of a forum or message board supposed to be a place to express opinions, observations and to be able to ask questions without being jumped on? I wasnt attacking you or HA. Yet you reply with your Get a grip response. If a simple question like Does HA boost or saturate their online images? cannot be asked without individuals becoming upset or snippy, then there is a problem. -Kerry On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Steven Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net wrote: My take on boosted images is simple. It's FINE to do that when presenting the images for use in a book, or other decoration. It's NOT FINE to do that when presenting the images to sell the poster. -S -- Steven Warren Hill shil...@sbcglobal.net shil...@yahoo.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception?
I couldn't have said it better. Bravo, Richard. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic Art Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 9:26 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Are boosted images clever marketing or outright deception? Kerry, it is correct that you can get on a soapbox such as MoPo or APF and publicly post and yes, an open discussion is endorsed. However, there comes a point where facts are not always in the favor of the person posting. You have admitted that you have never bought from Heritage, therefore you have no idea whether any of the conjecture you pose is even close to true, however if you go back back and read all of your posts both in this thread and on APF, some of your comments come across as stated facts and/or leading questions indicating facts. That's just wrong. Bruce has a boner for Heritage, so he constantly stirs the pot and gins up the crowd. One can only guess what motivation he has and myself, while I have expressed privately to Bruce my opinions, I'm not in the habit of attacking my competitors in any way and at the same time, I'm not one to tell Bruce or Heritage how to do anything they do either commercially or personally. Bruce and Grey are both big boys If I have a bone to pick with someone - and I'm not talking about posting about some stupid ebay seller who doesn't know how to ship - I may tell a friend, but I'm not all that likely to post about it publicly except in extreme cases, like if someone screws me straight up I might say something about that. Bruce has done great things for the movie poster hobby over the last 30 years and he was pretty good in comics before that. Similarly, Heritage has done great things for the hobby in the last 10 years. Grey Smith himself was no stranger to the movie poster hobby long before he took a job at Heritage (although I was not fortunate enough to have known him then). as I stated on APF, the photography people at Heritage work autonomously from the Movie Poster people. The same goes for every division under the corporate umbrella at Heritage. Photographers work under certain teachings - color correction, image correction, certain lighting conditions, using high def CMOS element cameras, they use a photography table that opens up so you can put a poster down and then it closes so that a large glass panel presses down on the poster flattening it out for photography. They color match their monitors and their scanner or cameras so that what they see is what they get. They do all kinds of things that Bruce and I do not. My own photos for my auctions aren't made to be color-perfect matches to the poster in front of me. My photos are meant specifically so that you can see condition issues. I don't use a CMOS camera. I don't have a professional photography table and I can't get away from the fluorescent lights that are installed in this place. But I have not had a single complaint EVER that my photos do not match the item I am selling and as a Heritage buyer my feelings are no different. I don't see any benefits from anyone trying to run down someone else who is doing fantastic things for the poster hobby. At 06:04 PM 3/3/2012, lovenoir2 wrote: Rich. If you construe my question or observations as gripes, then this is truly fruitless. I was doing nothing of the kind, let me be clear. The same I guess would apply to those others (on APF) that have asked or commented on the same thing? And one wonders why issues get blown out of proportion. Bruce asked the question. A few have answered, myself included. I have never griped--but made some observations. Isnt it about a healthy debate? it is, IMO. HA has some of the best auctions of this kind of rare material. That is without question. And no, I have not yet purchased from HA. Again, if one cannot ask a question, -- or better yet, reply to the question asked by another (meaning Bruce's earlier post), then what is the reason for the forums in the first place? -Kerry On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: Kerry #1 do you ever buy anything from Heritage #2 if you buy anything from Heritage, have you ever gotten an item you feel was misrepresented? #3 if you ever got an item you felt was misrepresented, did you explain any dissatisfaction to Grey Smith or any other Heritage employee #4 if you explained any any dissatisfaction to Grey Smith or any other Heritage employee, did you get a satisfactory response but really, #1 do you ever buy anything from Heritage if not, then exactly why would you have a gripe?? which is exactly what you seem to have. if yuo haven't bought anything from Heritage, then how do you know if Heritage has boosted any image color? do you have anything in your possession that you bought that you can point to that has a color
Re: [MOPO] Another poster seller who doesn't know how to pack.
I can't imagine why any poster seller would want to ship a window card rolled instead of flat . FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of John Waldman Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 8:21 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Another poster seller who doesn't know how to pack. It would be nice if USPS (and UPS) wouldn't put all packages that pass through their hands through a damn wood chipper! JW From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 8:43 PM Subject: [MOPO] Another poster seller who doesn't know how to pack. I bought this Pinocchio R62 window card when it was pristine on the front (w/some browning on the back) for $40 at eBay. The seller claimed no one packs better than him, that he has been on eBay since 1999 with no problems - and has great feedback. I warned him repeatedly that if he insists on shipping this rolled instead of FLAT - to not let the poster hug the shipping tube. He ignored me and the result is below. Cut to the chase; I got a refund and shipping reimbursed in both directions, the seller was extremely apologetic, cited personal problems that adversely affected his performance (otherwise I would out him right now). He did make it right with me but still, what a waste! I did everything in my power to prevent this from happening except not having the clairvoyance to know that I SHOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT FROM HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad49/PRtoday/damaged-Pinocchio-WCR62.jpg Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Man Sues over cost of Movie Snacks
I know that I'm not in the target market. I have crowns on my teeth and according to my dentist, popcorn is a dentist's best friend. I haven't tasted popcorn in over twenty years. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 10:59 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Man Sues over cost of Movie Snacks Look. I am not grateful to them for charging thirteen bucks for the popcorn pack. I KNOW I should be, but I'm just NOT. And I'm crushed that I'm not in their target market. Kirby On Mar 8, 2012, at 9:24 AM, Evan Zweifel wrote: Look. Imagine for a second that they could make more profit by lowering the price of the popcorn and drinks and (as you suggest) sell a lot more. Well, they would certainly do that regardless of the split between the studio and the theater. Otherwise they would be idiots. I'm pretty sure that they have found the right price for the concessions; you just aren't willing to pay it. You should accept the fact that you are not in their target market and get over it. The chemicals they put on the popcorn aren't good for you anyway; you will live longer and better if you stay away. You should THANK them for pricing it that way. Evan - Original Message - From: Joseph Bonelli joebom...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Thu, 08 Mar 2012 05:41:15 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] Man Sues over cost of Movie Snacks Right on all counts!! Joe From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 2:23 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Man Sues over cost of Movie Snacks I learned this in econ classes: I don't pay thirteen bucks for popcorn! And I think that the exhibitors would sell a lot more of it if it was cheaper. And a more equitable split between the producers and the exhibitors would allow them to shift the price point on popcorn, drinks and everything to increase their volume. The sweet spot, Evan, the sweet spot. K. On Mar 7, 2012, at 1:49 PM, Evan Zweifel wrote: I'm sorry, I think you've forgotten what you learned in your econ classes. The price of popcorn is not related to the percentage of the gate. They would charge $100 for a small popcorn if the audience would pay it. Certainly you don't believe that if the studios reduced their percentage, the theaters would charge less, do you?? Really?? Evan - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wed, 07 Mar 2012 18:20:53 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] Man Sues over cost of Movie Snacks Yes, that's my point, Steve. They should make something on the ticket price and lower the cost of those concessions. I've heard exhibitors complain about it for years. The studios are greedy on this point. Of course, they have their reasons but the business model for movies is out of whack in my view. Kirby On Mar 7, 2012, at 10:04 AM, Steve wrote: Theaters make next to nothing on the admission tickets. The cost of food and drinks keep them going. If families/individuals cannot afford the concessions they should stay away from them. How about the cost of the video games? When I go to the theaters I see those rooms filled to capacity with mostly school age students spending lots of money for a minute or two worth of play. Big bucket of popcorn and largest sodas usually include free refills. Certain nights there is unlimited popcorn for one price. From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Man Sues over cost of Movie Snacks Who can defend $13.00 popcorn-packs? But, honestly, someone should sue the producers for unjust sharing of film revenues with the exhibitors. It's been this way for years. A few percentage points in the exhibitors favor and they could well afford to make popcorn $2.00 a box. Or some such price. Kirby On Mar 7, 2012, at 9:05 AM, Cory Glaberson wrote: http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2012/03/06/michigan-man-sues-over-cost- of-movie-snacks/ Cory Glaberson cglaber...@aol.com Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author
Re: [MOPO] OT - Evan Zweifel and David Kusumoto in Public
Let's lighten the mood a bit by slightly changing the subject. I blow hot and cold on Woody's films but there's one character so beautifully drawn in Crimes and Misdeamors that it moved me to belly laughs because this character was someone right out of my life. It's no secret that Woody Allen is not a fan of public television. He's had an on-going feud with Channel 13 in NYC for years. Well, I worked for public television as Head of the Business Affairs and Legal Department for years and I worked alongside a Production Head who kept trying to pitch his great idea for a series to anyone who'd listen: he wanted to film the great thinkers and their lectures. Just one camera with one person each week delivering his great thinker lecture straight-on for an hourthat was the whole idea. I went to see Crimes and Misdeamors in the theater and sure enough there's a character in that film who wants to make a public television film about the lectures of a great thinker. I never laughed so much in my life and I have no idea if Woody based this character on the Production Head I worked with but I always suspected he might of. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jay Nemeth-Johannes Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:58 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT - Evan Zweifel and David Kusumoto in Public Please stop, both of you. Since this is a Woody Allen flame thread, I am reminded of the scene in Annie Hall, where the two guys are arguing over the meaning of Marshall McLuhan's work and Woody breaks the fourth wall by bringing Marshall himself into the frame to tell both of them that they have absolutely no clue. Please consider. Jay On Tue, 13 Mar 2012 15:38:57 +, Evan Zweifel wrote: David, Please stop. Nobody on this list (or frankly any list) deserves this type of abuse. I find it odd that in a post where you admit that you cannot know who or what I am, you clearly feel that its acceptable attack me at a personal level. Again, I apologize for questioning your opinions on the quality of recent Woody Allen films. Evan Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] WTB: Tales of Hoffmann 1951 US Insert
The lobby cards are rather nice, too. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:53 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB: Tales of Hoffmann 1951 US Insert That’s the best US paper I think. The British one sheet is stunning. Peter From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic Art Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 6:07 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] WTB: Tales of Hoffmann 1951 US Insert wow.. pretty poster At 03:00 PM 3/16/2012, Carteron, Bruce - 1551 wrote: Here you go – available for auction next week. http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7055 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=7055lotNo=83641 lotNo=83641 From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Simon Oram Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 4:38 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] WTB: Tales of Hoffmann 1951 US Insert Hi Mopo, I’m after a US insert for Tales of Hoffmann 1951 (Powell and Pressburger). If you have one for sale please let me know stating price and condition thank you. Simon Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] welcome tp greece
This is the same asshole who stiffed me and many others on MOPO a couple of weeks ago. I both e-mailed and called Ebay and asked that he be banned from buying on Ebay. I have no idea if they carried through with it but clearly he's still peddling his brand of BS. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:24 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] welcome tp greece Dear majesticposters, Hello from Greece. Out of excitement and foolish rush, I bid on three posters that I already have in my collection. Please,excuse me for the inconveniece, show your good hearted leniency, and subtract the following items from my order: 1.DADDY LONG LEGS ONE SHEET -FRED ASTAIRE AND LESLIE CARON ... (200724223548) 2.THE GLASS WEB ONE SHEET - SEXY BAD GIRL KATHLEEN HUGHES (200724227310) 3.DRACULA, PRINCE OF DARKNESS ONE SHEET CHRISTOPHER LEE HAM... (200724235130). the other two posters will be paid via PayPal first thing Thursday Morning. Please,for your good Karma's sake, forgive me, and send me a new Invoice with the 1.PATTON ONE SHEET -WAR (200724212733) 2.ROCK AROUND THE WORLD ONE SHEET -COOL ROCK AND ROLL GFX (190650016079). We are all human beings and mistakes are made all the time! Counting on your integrity,please,I'm Waiting for your new Invoice.Thank you,thank you,thankyou. Enjoy your Weekend and God Bless us. - proficient911 Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] greek buyer on ebay
Her other name is panosnatalia1968. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 12:30 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] greek buyer on ebay Does anybody know the user ID of the greek idiot who keeps messing up everyboday's ebay auctions. His one ID is proficient911, I cant find the other one. It is virtually impossible to find older records on ebay. Thanks-peter Peter Contarino Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] EBAY seller to watch out for
Add this guy to the Hall Of Fame for A**Holes. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of steve olson Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 3:37 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] EBAY seller to watch out for His 2 Ebay names are hawleybra (93.8 rating) and sea-brook40 (98.1 rating). I won an auction for a Best Years Of Their Lives WC for $75 from him Sunday afternoon, then he wrote me at 3:50AM Monday to tell me if I don't pay him by 12 noon he was canceling the sale. I paid later that day and he sent back the money and an EBAY cancellation of the sale, which I refused. He then wrote and told me he sold it to someone else off EBAY for $200. Luckily I am getting some comic relief from him. Here are some of his comments- Your item sold today at 12:00 I sent you an email about payment for just item that it must be paid by 12 today very sorry, but I'm here to make money and get paid times r bad now i guess that you dont know ebay i have the right to or not sale LOOK IT UP dude i've been on ebay for 14 years i have the right to do what i want with my stuff somebody offer me a lot more money i gave u a chance to buy it i got $200 for it ok What you dont get is that i call ebay before i sold it. They said it was ok they are going to listen to the phone calls tomorrow. I should be ok. and you still have NO POSTER LOL I think maybe he is Greek. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Hollywood Poster Auction
I didn't get our copy but I'll download one. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Evan Zweifel Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:12 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Hollywood Poster Auction I had no difficulty navigating the web site and downloading my own digital copy. Looks like some fun stuff. Evan - Original Message - From: Sean Linkenback s...@platinumposters.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:34:14 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] Hollywood Poster Auction Does anyone have one of these catalogs? The auction is next weekend, so I am kind of surprised I don't have one yet, but maybe I am not on the list anymore. -Original Message- From: Diana and/or Morris Everett Jr [mailto:dianademail-las...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 08:09 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Hollywood Poster Auction Did you receive your catalog yet?! Printer error has caused the list of lot notes and group descriptions in the back of the catalog to be, in some cases, off by one! The good news is that the list is correct online. Please use the online catalog be your guide to the notes and descriptions. P.s. These are the numbers that are off by one: 109-455 and 770-792 Sorry for the inconvenience. See you in Columbus. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com_ __How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: listserv@listserv.american.eduIn the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] eBay BAD SELLER report.. Watch out for this one BLADENSDEALS
I love this board if for no other reason than the entertainment it provides. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Comic Art Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 6:38 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] eBay BAD SELLER report.. Watch out for this one BLADENSDEALS maybe they want you to help them did you try to speak with them?? At 03:35 PM 6/6/2012, Rix Posterz wrote: I see dead people In a message dated 6/6/2012 3:27:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: Lumi if you look at the closed auctions, this person was selling stuff within the time frame of my system messages to her. In other words, she was performing sales business, but didn't answer me. if you look at recent feedback, I'm not alone Rich At 03:20 PM 6/6/2012, luminita hascalovitz wrote: Rich, Get the contact info and make a phone call. Maybe the seller had some medical condition, or was involved in a car accident and is now in the hospital or worse. You never know. Good luck. Lumi _ Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:56:11 -0700 From: sa...@comic-art.com Subject: [MOPO] eBay BAD SELLER report.. Watch out for this one BLADENSDEALS To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU bought these Birds FOH stills on April 22nd http://www.ebay.com/itm/280866997681?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT http://www.ebay.com/itm/280866997681?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT_trksid=p3984 .m1439.l2649 _trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 sent $ immediately.. no stills. posted a message to seller on 5-13 again on 5-29, both times to no response from seller filed ebay complaint on 5/31 just looked and in the last week 3 people have filed Negs another Neutral that should have been a neg I only lost a little money ebay will certainly refund my money.. who knows about the $399 loser seller's name is Bladensdeals and the real name of the seller is Tamara Thompson anyone else who did business with this fool?? Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? - slightly off topic
I have found that women are deeply offended when a man uses the C word but are less so when they hurl the D word at a man and both genders use the other F word without a second thought. The point is if you're offended by wretched words, then you should be offended by all of them, not just the ones that insult your own being. That said, I don't think it's appropriate to be using this kind of language in a public forum, especially when children may have access. It was however a welcome deversion from constant Bruce vs. Heritage bickering that has been jamming the board of late. Enough already. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Adrian Cowdry Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 6:42 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? - slightly off topic Interesting points...but I would advocate that the word Negro is a very noble word and the bastardisation is not. However to take this further Wing Commander Guy Gibson called his dog Nigger, this is an historic fact, if you watch the film The Dam Busters they have not shied away from it...the promised remake though will have the dogs name dropped...I agree the word is offensive in todays society but if a film is to be historic then keep to the history...the Tukagee Airmen were often called this by their officers and each other...Dam Busters and Tuskagee airmen were both in the same war...so if history is concerned lets keep it that way and not offend those that gave their lives...there are still a few Dam Busters alive and the death of Gibson's dog was an important historiv event the day before the raid. -Original Message- From: allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:32 Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? Howdy y'all, After I read that quote (which was my first time ever, believe or not), I thought it amusing, but I was kinda surprised that it was there, nonetheless. The quote does not bother me in the least, but I am a diff gender. I work at a hospital; most hospital employees (including administration) are approximately 90% female. Among the staff that I work with, we have discussed many topics with relatively few limits; (experiencing life/death events regularly during any 12 hour shift tends to alter one's discussion topics). Naturally, the c-word (and similarly the n-word), have been discussed over the years. Those words can be demonizing, demoralizing, soul draining, and tend to create a vacuum. However, in people of the same ethnic, the n-word can be a term of affection / endearment. Similarly, the c-word, when discussed exclusively by a certain gender, tends to have a less antagonizing effect. ... or to be a lil' more plainer ... if a man utters the c-word, he will be forever known; 'flogged' relentlessly; and 'frozen out' ... should a women utter the c-word, she will be dismissed as just a low class bee-yotch having a bad day. ad _ From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? Mopoers: This jokey comment was in no way directed at you, Diana. IN NO WAY. I would like to clarify to Diana Everett and to Morris Everett and to everyone on this list that this quip that I related on the list was NOT INTENDED to be a comment about Diana or ANYONE on the list. It is a well-known anecdote and racy (and so labeled) wisecrack about country music (which I actually enjoy) and THAT'S IT. Kirby On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Diana and/or Morris Everett Jr wrote: Seriously, Kirby? All I did was enter into this online community of people I know and enjoy seeing a time or two a year, to ask an honest question and have what turned out to be a little fun. Any then you write this? Disgusting. You need to get a life. You owe this woman, wife, mother, and grandmother of two young girls an apology. Nevermind. I won't be coming back to look for one. Diana Everett _ From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: Diana and/or Morris Everett Jr dianademail-las...@yahoo.com Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 11:57 AM Subject: HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Re: [MOPO] Off topic: but oh boy would I love a favor. The greatest moment in the history of country music was when Johnny Cash's stepdaughter, Carlene Carter, said that she was going to put the cunt back in country.* It's been all downhill after that. *In 1979, during a concert at New York http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York 's Bottom Line http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bottom_Line , Carlene Carter http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlene_Carter introduced a song about mate-swapping called Swap-Meat Rag by stating, If this song don't put the cunt back in country, I don't know what will. Yours sincerely, Pat Boone On Jun 9, 2012, at 9
Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? - slightly off topic
Unforunately, Rick, I think you're assessment of English literature as it is currently taught in the US high schools is correct. Most high schoolers haven't even heard of Charles Dickens and they no longer teach cursive handwriting in grammar schools. So I'm presuming that in twenty years, we'll have an entire generation of illiterates who are masters of IPhone and nothing else. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Rix Posterz Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:54 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? - slightly off topic Methinks the state of education might be a bit different here in many parts of the U.S. If I'm incorrect in my assumption, I apologize for such an unspeakable inference. Rick In a message dated 6/10/2012 8:26:24 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jboh...@aol.com writes: Both my daughters are A English students here in the UK, they did not study Chaucer but they did study Lord of the Flies, Of Mice and Men, Sense and Sensibility, the Rime of the Ancient Mariner as well as others. -Original Message- From: Rix Posterz rixpost...@aol.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 12:52 Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? - slightly off topic The C-word has quite a long and sometimes controversial history in the English language...a direct reference to it appears in The Miller's Tale, a story in Geoffrey Chaucer's Canterbury Tales, written in the 14th century. (I remember being amazed by that reference way back when we studied Chaucer in high school. Just wondering...is Chaucer a part of any high school curriculum today? He's probably been replaced by Nicholas Sparks or Diary of a Wimpy Kid...) Rick In a message dated 6/10/2012 3:41:59 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jboh...@aol.com writes: Interesting points...but I would advocate that the word Negro is a very noble word and the bastardisation is not. However to take this further Wing Commander Guy Gibson called his dog Nigger, this is an historic fact, if you watch the film The Dam Busters they have not shied away from it...the promised remake though will have the dogs name dropped...I agree the word is offensive in todays society but if a film is to be historic then keep to the history...the Tukagee Airmen were often called this by their officers and each other...Dam Busters and Tuskagee airmen were both in the same war...so if history is concerned lets keep it that way and not offend those that gave their lives...there are still a few Dam Busters alive and the death of Gibson's dog was an important historiv event the day before the raid. -Original Message- From: allen day aday_5...@yahoo.com To: MoPo-L MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 11:32 Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? Howdy y'all, After I read that quote (which was my first time ever, believe or not), I thought it amusing, but I was kinda surprised that it was there, nonetheless. The quote does not bother me in the least, but I am a diff gender. I work at a hospital; most hospital employees (including administration) are approximately 90% female. Among the staff that I work with, we have discussed many topics with relatively few limits; (experiencing life/death events regularly during any 12 hour shift tends to alter one's discussion topics). Naturally, the c-word (and similarly the n-word), have been discussed over the years. Those words can be demonizing, demoralizing, soul draining, and tend to create a vacuum. However, in people of the same ethnic, the n-word can be a term of affection / endearment. Similarly, the c-word, when discussed exclusively by a certain gender, tends to have a less antagonizing effect. ... or to be a lil' more plainer ... if a man utters the c-word, he will be forever known; 'flogged' relentlessly; and 'frozen out' ... should a women utter the c-word, she will be dismissed as just a low class bee-yotch having a bad day. ad _ From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2012 7:27 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? Mopoers: This jokey comment was in no way directed at you, Diana. IN NO WAY. I would like to clarify to Diana Everett and to Morris Everett and to everyone on this list that this quip that I related on the list was NOT INTENDED to be a comment about Diana or ANYONE on the list. It is a well-known anecdote and racy (and so labeled) wisecrack about country music (which I actually enjoy) and THAT'S IT. Kirby On Jun 9, 2012, at 5:54 PM, Diana and/or Morris Everett Jr wrote: Seriously, Kirby? All I did was enter into this online community of people I know and enjoy seeing a time or two a year, to ask an honest question and have
Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? - slightly off topic
Thank goodness for Milwaukee! There may be hope yet. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jay Nemeth-Johannes Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 12:11 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] HIGHLY OFFENSIVE: Seriously? - slightly off topic On 6/10/12 10:54 AM, Rix Posterz rixpost...@aol.com wrote: Methinks the state of education might be a bit different here in many parts of the U.S. If I'm incorrect in my assumption, I apologize for such an unspeakable inference. Rick My kids have all had to study Chaucer in High School. Correct that. My youngest just finished her Freshman year, and they teach it to Sophomores here in Milwaukee. Jay Nemeth-Johannes 8901 N Rexleigh Dr Bayside, WI 53217 (970) 290-9797 (Cell) -- Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Why do so few women participate on MoPo?
Or maybe the question should be why do so many men on this board act like old women? FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Posteropolis Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 5:40 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Why do so few women participate on MoPo? Maybe the question should really be: Why do so many cranky old men participate? Dave - Original Message - From: Bruce Hershenson mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 3:39 PM Subject: [MOPO] Why do so few women participate on MoPo? I can't figure it out. We are a great fun loving bunch of guys, and yet so few women participate on MoPo, and when a few do, like Geraldine or Diana, they seem to invariably get in LOTS of fights, and judging by the reactions of most of the posters, they make much ado about nothing. So what gives? -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 26 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/20120523_emovieposter_because.gif Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott
I can't believe Bruce that you're actually doing one more pass on this. You have a great operation. I've bought many things from you over the years and I was always very happy with your service. But so does Grey. Constantly criticizing his operation, doesn't make yours any better. It just makes you seem unprofessional. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:15 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott Grey That was a great detailed reply. I just have one question (and forgive me if this has been addressed in some way, because there has been so much posted about this that I can't wrap my head around it all. My question is, were you personally there when either or both packages were opened? If not, how can you know that an employee did not remove the more valuable posters that are now supposedly missing? It seems that this is a loose end that I have not seen addressed. In my operation, I have one person who opens absolutely EVERY package (Clark) and he has been with me 10 years and I trust him implicitly. I want him to open every single package so that the day a dispute like this would arise (and it never has) then the ONLY two possible answers would be that the person who sent the package misremembered (or lied) or that Clark stole the items. Do you either personally witness each package being opened, or do you have a single employee who does this (as I do) or do you have cameras recording the opening? I do think your addressing this earlier would have been better, because the combination of your remaining silent (and the offer to settle) creates an appearance of negligence or guilt on your part. Now you have certainly placed the ball back in Geraldine's court, forcing her to refute your statements, or come up with additional evidence. Bruce On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:54 PM, David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com wrote: Grey - * As one of the few who defended Geraldine's right to post - and who knew the tactical reasons why you/Heritage remained silent - and who also wrote and spoke to you personally about this train wreck - I'm glad you finally felt unleashed to strongly defend yourself here. Your response is clear, easy to follow and portrays your role as a non-aggressor - whose every effort to resolve this dispute was rebuffed. I wonder if the only outcome that would have been satisfactory to Geraldine was a full retail cash settlement and an admission of guilt. * What bothered me was the small amounts in dispute in relation to the big-dollar picture of Heritage's operations. When any person takes his or her grievances public, it's almost always the court of last resort, as most disagreements broil beneath the surface for many weeks or months before exploding in public. The elapsed time between the start of this dispute to today - was far too long, with the MoPo portion of this dispute stretching more than two months. I never like it when any entity starts to lose control of a dispute - despite the besieged entity being in full possession of the facts as it knows them. It's hard to ascribe intent to both sides - when only one side is doing the talking. The analysis of your motives by third parties was bothersome to me because they were testimonial guesses - vs. what you and I have talked about privately - and how it all matches up with your post below. The relevance of third parties speaking on your behalf is that it painted a bad picture to lurking collectors about which dealers were taking sides against a disgruntled consumer/consignor - and what adverse impact this might have on their reputations as customer-and-consignor-friendly businesses. * I apologize that many people interpreted my defense of Geraldine's right to post - as equivalent to a condemnation of Heritage generally and of you personally. From the beginning, having talked and met with you and Heritage co-chief Jim Halperin in person, I've always felt it impossible to believe that you're capable of intentional (or even unintentional) maliciousness. However much I defend a person's right to post, in the end, as John wrote, it's always more clear how things really are - when we can hear both sides. My apologies again and my best to you. -d. _ Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 15:01:47 -0500 From: gre...@ha.com Subject: Kudaka and Lippincott To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU I feel I must now respond to Ms. Kudaka's bizarre accusations of missing or stolen posters, and the ongoing discussions about her accusations on MOPO. Many of your know me personally, and know how hard I work to maintain my credibility and reputation. I have taken thousands of consignments in my eleven years with Heritage Auctions, and have sold well over $50 million in movie posters. In all that time, I cannot recall anyone ever accusing me or Heritage of stealing their movie posters before
Re: [MOPO] My Consignment to Bruce.. and what I didn't like about it
Why does this remind me of a scene from Old Acquaintance? It's a movie, in case you all forget, something we haven't been discussing in any way since this BS began. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Kirby McDaniel Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] My Consignment to Bruce.. and what I didn't like about it If you're ever in a jam, here I am If you're ever up the creek, I'm your geek Well it's friendship, friendship Perfect MOPO blendship When other friendships have been forgot THEIRS will still be NOT Anyone else need any rhymes. Or should I just SHUT UP. Kirby On Jun 12, 2012, at 9:40 AM, John Waldman wrote: That's a very interesting story, Rich. And like you said, no one is perfect. So it's best to check up on what's yours and what is owed to you. There's only one thing that is fuzzy, Rich...is Bruce a friend of yours or what? JW From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 11:46 PM Subject: [MOPO] My Consignment to Bruce.. and what I didn't like about it Okay Folks.. here goes. Before I put this down, I want everyone here to know some simple things, including Bruce. Bruce is my friend and has been for a very long time. I first met Bruce at the 1968 Comic Art con in NYC when I was just 11 years old. We never really hung out much then for obvious reasons (I was 11.. hello), but over the years we definitely got to know each other and about 1985 when I floated back to movie posters and we met again at Cinevent, we became much more friendly. I have alot of respect for Bruce and like many people who are my friends, I consider them to be my brothers and my sisters. Chances are, if I couldn't think of you as someone that close to me, I probably couldn't consider you my friend. Bruce is definitely a brother The story that follows is my personal experience, or I should say, one of my experiences as a consignor, because I have a few times consigned to Bruce. It is not anyone else's story as I refuse to tell other people's experiences behind any anonymity and if I do know anyone with a negative story, they just have to tell it themselves. I just pass around gossip like I know lots of people who have bad experiences with Heritage. Sorry.. That's not my bag. I'm not telling this story to infuriate Bruce. I'm telling it because I've had enough of these accusations back and forth that looks like one dealer trying to disparage other dealers. It's silliness, it's a negative to the hobby, and MoPo as well as APF is just too full of this bullshit and it has to stop. In kind, after I tell this story, if someone wants to tell of some negative experienc e you've had buying from me, selling to me or consigning etc.. Go for it. I'm a big boy and the truth does not hurt me my story... Back near the end of 2008, I had determined that I wasn't doing well with stills in my auctions. It was too bad because I have lots of great great stills. So because I was spending lots of money with my friend Bruce, and because it was my opinion that he wasn't just doing well with good stuff, but that he was kicking ass, I decided to ask Bruce if he would take a consignment of stills. He agreed as long as I sent him good stuff. I promised it would be a great load of stuff, but I wanted them sold in a short period of time so that I could spend the money with him as in 2008 and into 2009, I really wasn't doing well enough, and though I can't muzzle my collecting habit, I could at least find a way to get it to pay for itself a little better at the time. So I carefully went through my stock and I pulled the best of the best. Silent portraits of Valentino, Nita Naldi, Nazimova, Harold Lloyd. Scene stills from Wings with Clara Bow, It Happened One Night, Petrified Forest. Great images of Jean Harlow, Gable, Clara Bow and even great stuff from High Noon, and the Wild Bunch. This was great incredible stuff and only the best images. There was absolutely no chaff in this stuff. 492 stills. I sent bruce a link to an online gallery of the stills so he could approve them before I shipped them also. I got my ducks lined up. So after I got them prepped and I photographed them all (yeah that's right, that's my inventory. I practice what I preach!), I had Anna box them up and they were shipped to Bruce on 4-17-2009. I was spending some money with Bruce in 2009, and fortunately things were also getting better, so I sort of forgot about them for a while until I realized Bruce hadn't auctioned them yet, so on 7-28 I emailed Bruce if he was going to get to them sometime soon. He responded on 8-23 with the following email: Rich I have good news and bad news! The bad news is that I got so backed up I did nothing with the stills. The good news is that I opened them, and I am going to sneak in around 40 of them in with my really great
Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott
so over this nonsense clogging up my e-mail. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of peter contarino Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 11:44 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott snze From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Geraldine Kudaka Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 9:13 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott Grey has written a very long email... While many of you have complained that I have carried this conversation on, Grey's posting will require a response that I cannot make without taking a long time on the computer composing a response. I cannot do this this week as I have other things i had planned, i.e., shipping off a few things which sold and a meeting with our attorney. We had planned on meeting with out attorney after receiving a pdf of Heritage's response to our letter this past weekend. So be forewarned -- we will make a response and it will be after the conversation has died down. By this, I mean the immediate responses you make to Grey's allegations will have posted, and not been answered. You may think it is because Grey's allegations are correct, but the truth is we are gathering together our facts so that whatever we post is correct. We do keep copies of emails, and have copies of emails prior to the last year. It will take time to go though the backup drives and other computers we used to search emails from 2009-2010, but if Grey wants to post his legal proof here, not a problem. The proof which Heritage and Rudy used of our culpability is an email we sent to Rudy including an inventory Grey implies I created. I did not create this list. The inventory list came from a database software report copied and pasted onto an email. If you look at the structure of the list, you will see it is from Heritage. The inventory is Heritage's format, layout and information structure. What is the likelihood that we, non-collectors and dealers who did not even know the value of our posters, out of the sky blue, used Heritage's format? Heritage's proof of Rudy's email is faulty for two reason -- One, the above origin of the inventory list. Here, let me interject I, a Paradox database user, do not have a database which can readily create this report format because I haven't bothered to learn any other database. This is not something I can prove to those of you who want to side with Heritage, so if you do not want to recognize Heritage's report structure -- let me make my second point. Per my attorney, one of the problems of using emails in court is courts may not accept emails as proof because emails can be forged. Am I stating that Heritage or Rudy forged an email? No. I am stating that short of finding our emails from the period, I cannot confirm Rudy's email, as posted, was sent from my computer. I can also say that rather than our attorney emailing Heritage, we chose to enter snail mail because it is legally viable. Our first letter was sent to heritage on May 5, and when Grey claimed he did not receive it, was resent about two weeks later. In that letter, our attorney specifically requested from Grey the names of the bonded person who received our posters and the two bonded persons who double checked Heritage's inventory. Heritage's attorney has skirted this issue and the only name included in the one page letter with copies of paperwork is his name -- Grey Smith. Does this mean. as per Heritage's claim on their site, they did not have two bonded, insured persons double-checking the inventory?. Last -- I cannot disclose the names of others who emailed me off list -- but I am not the only one to complain about Heritage. _ From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott I feel I must now respond to Ms. Kudaka's bizarre accusations of missing or stolen posters, and the ongoing discussions about her accusations on MOPO. Many of your know me personally, and know how hard I work to maintain my credibility and reputation. I have taken thousands of consignments in my eleven years with Heritage Auctions, and have sold well over $50 million in movie posters. In all that time, I cannot recall anyone ever accusing me or Heritage of stealing their movie posters before this! In fact most of our consignments come from repeat sellers and their friends, and I believe our consignor satisfaction ratings compare favorably with those of any of the world's auction houses. Here is a link to all of the documents we just sent to Ms. Kudaka's attorney, including a letter from Heritage's attorney, in answer to her inquiry as to how her husband and her posters were handled while with Heritage: http://movieposters.ha.com/images/Lippincott-060512.pdf Ms. Kudaka's
Re: [MOPO] OT The State Of Country Music (Sorry, Diana and Morrie)
I've just released an album of show tunes played on my ukulele. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Freeman Fisher Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:35 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT The State Of Country Music (Sorry, Diana and Morrie) And in other music news today, Kirby McDaniel will be releasing his latest collection of vintage German Polkas recorded on the sidewalk on 6th Street in Austin. The cover art will be his favorite barstool made of bull horns and deer antlers. On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote: I'm a HUGE country music fan, and if you look outside of Nashville, there's still a fair number of absolutely outstanding acts to be discovered... Here's an album I recorded and released on my (meanwhile retired) record label in 2007: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/billydonburns The recordings were made in my living room, and that's my sofa on the cover. Billy Don Burns is an outlaw, a rebel, an addict and utterly crazy, but it's guys like him who still keep the spirit of REAL country alive. If you look into his biography, Billy Don has been all over the place, Willie Nelson recorded one of this songs, his co-operation with Hank Cochran actually kicked Johnny Cash's UNCHAINED off the #1 position in Gavin's Americana album charts in 1996, and today he COULD be one of the great names in country music, yet he managed to screw it all up, and as it is, hardly anybody outside the professional crowd even remembers his name. To quote another one of my country music heroes, David Allan Coe: 'If that ain't country, you can kiss my ass!' Helmut Am 09.06.2012 um 18:36 schrieb Rix Posterz: Being a songwriter (lyricist) myself---and having written dozens of country songs, mostly in the early 90's---the use of imperfect rhymes in every contemporary Country song is a true pet peeve of mine. The current Country music songwriters go out of their way to make every single rhyme an imperfect one---ie: rhyming back with that or pit with this. Hey, if this occurred occasionally or even semi-frequently, it wouldn't bother me so much...but nowadays it's always the case...always. And I'm not alone in feeling the way I do. Years ago, the legendary lyricist Sammy Cahn said it was his personal pet peeve as well...and that was decades before contemporary Country music started thoroughly dumbing-down the songwriting process. A few years ago, I met the great songwriter Paul Williams at a friend's Christmas party and we got into a long conversation about this subject...and he agreed with me completely. In Country music as well as Pop music, these days more often than not songs are cloned---somebody has a monster hit, causing songwriters to scramble in an effort to write a song that's just close enough to the hit where they won't get their asses sued for plagiarism. I'm sure this same type of practice takes place all the time in the TV and movie industries as well. I think Country music had a renaissance of sorts in the late 80's and early 90's and has gone downhill ever since. Just my two cents, whatever that's worth... Rick In a message dated 6/9/2012 8:57:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ki...@movieart.net writes: The greatest moment in the history of country music was when Johnny Cash's stepdaughter, Carlene Carter, said that she was going to put the cunt back in country.* It's been all downhill after that. *In 1979, during a concert at New York's Bottom Line, Carlene Carter introduced a song about mate-swapping called Swap-Meat Rag by stating, If this song don't put the cunt back in country, I don't know what will. Yours sincerely, Pat Boone On Jun 9, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Diana and/or Morris Everett Jr wrote: We are indeed! And the boots I would be scootin' in are custom made Paul Bonds with my initials inlaid front and back! We're serious about this stuff, by golly! You should have seen the show tonight. Blake Shelton and Jake Owen made me swoon, Carrie Underwood who is sheer perfection in every way certainly had Mo's attention, and the National Anthem was sung to perfection by The Oak Ridge Boys. That's what I'm talking' about: Yee Haw! As for the porn you sent Morrie, Kirby you nut, those were some great shots of movie poster stuff from back in the day. Mo is hanging his head for not getting back to you the moment he watched it. I really enjoyed seeing Mo bidding in that auction. He says THANK YOU!! Okay, so I have no input as to how to get great - or even good- tickets to next year's CMA event. Bummer, dudes. 'Night- By the way, here is my favorite, hands down, no question about it, FOREVER AND EVER favorite country music video. Mo loves it too. We both wish we could have participated!! Watch it standing up and HAVE A GOOD
Re: [MOPO] OT The State Of Country Music (Sorry, Diana and Morrie)
It's a ukelele not a mandolin! FRANC -Original Message- From: Posteropolis [mailto:posteropo...@bell.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:22 PM To: Franc; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT The State Of Country Music (Sorry, Diana and Morrie) Is ukelele a euphemism? ;-) Dave - Original Message - From: Franc fdav...@verizon.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT The State Of Country Music (Sorry, Diana and Morrie) I've just released an album of show tunes played on my ukulele. -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Freeman Fisher Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 1:35 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT The State Of Country Music (Sorry, Diana and Morrie) And in other music news today, Kirby McDaniel will be releasing his latest collection of vintage German Polkas recorded on the sidewalk on 6th Street in Austin. The cover art will be his favorite barstool made of bull horns and deer antlers. On Jun 12, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Helmut Hamm wrote: I'm a HUGE country music fan, and if you look outside of Nashville, there's still a fair number of absolutely outstanding acts to be discovered... Here's an album I recorded and released on my (meanwhile retired) record label in 2007: http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/billydonburns The recordings were made in my living room, and that's my sofa on the cover. Billy Don Burns is an outlaw, a rebel, an addict and utterly crazy, but it's guys like him who still keep the spirit of REAL country alive. If you look into his biography, Billy Don has been all over the place, Willie Nelson recorded one of this songs, his co-operation with Hank Cochran actually kicked Johnny Cash's UNCHAINED off the #1 position in Gavin's Americana album charts in 1996, and today he COULD be one of the great names in country music, yet he managed to screw it all up, and as it is, hardly anybody outside the professional crowd even remembers his name. To quote another one of my country music heroes, David Allan Coe: 'If that ain't country, you can kiss my ass!' Helmut Am 09.06.2012 um 18:36 schrieb Rix Posterz: Being a songwriter (lyricist) myself---and having written dozens of country songs, mostly in the early 90's---the use of imperfect rhymes in every contemporary Country song is a true pet peeve of mine. The current Country music songwriters go out of their way to make every single rhyme an imperfect one---ie: rhyming back with that or pit with this. Hey, if this occurred occasionally or even semi-frequently, it wouldn't bother me so much...but nowadays it's always the case...always. And I'm not alone in feeling the way I do. Years ago, the legendary lyricist Sammy Cahn said it was his personal pet peeve as well...and that was decades before contemporary Country music started thoroughly dumbing-down the songwriting process. A few years ago, I met the great songwriter Paul Williams at a friend's Christmas party and we got into a long conversation about this subject...and he agreed with me completely. In Country music as well as Pop music, these days more often than not songs are cloned---somebody has a monster hit, causing songwriters to scramble in an effort to write a song that's just close enough to the hit where they won't get their asses sued for plagiarism. I'm sure this same type of practice takes place all the time in the TV and movie industries as well. I think Country music had a renaissance of sorts in the late 80's and early 90's and has gone downhill ever since. Just my two cents, whatever that's worth... Rick In a message dated 6/9/2012 8:57:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ki...@movieart.net writes: The greatest moment in the history of country music was when Johnny Cash's stepdaughter, Carlene Carter, said that she was going to put the cunt back in country.* It's been all downhill after that. *In 1979, during a concert at New York's Bottom Line, Carlene Carter introduced a song about mate-swapping called Swap-Meat Rag by stating, If this song don't put the cunt back in country, I don't know what will. Yours sincerely, Pat Boone On Jun 9, 2012, at 9:27 AM, Diana and/or Morris Everett Jr wrote: We are indeed! And the boots I would be scootin' in are custom made Paul Bonds with my initials inlaid front and back! We're serious about this stuff, by golly! You should have seen the show tonight. Blake Shelton and Jake Owen made me swoon, Carrie Underwood who is sheer perfection in every way certainly had Mo's attention, and the National Anthem was sung to perfection by The Oak Ridge Boys. That's what I'm talking' about: Yee Haw! As for the porn you sent Morrie, Kirby you nut, those were some great shots
Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott
AMEN, I hope! FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Rix Posterz Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:07 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott I'd like to remember MoPo as is was BEFORE Geraldine and all this DRAMA. Jeez, give us all a rest! In a message dated 6/12/2012 4:36:34 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sa...@comic-art.com writes: Geraldine I have nothing against Bruce. I have nothing against you either. Bruce is my friend. I also have other friends. One of them is Grey Smith I do however have a sense of right and wrong and when people do wrong things (in my opinion) that are against my friends, I am likely to comment on them whether they are said by friend or foe, especially when they constantly come into my mailbox on the same schedule that my clock hits the hour, every hour. Chances are, if this material did not come into my mailbox, I also would not be commenting to other people's mailboxes. Last I looked, having a disagreement with something someone else says is not illegal, nor immoral. I disagree with people all the time.. even girlfriends (where of course there is no win available to me) and I have even had disagreements with (shudder) my best buds, one of which is Sean (if you can ever have a disagreement with him). I do not see having a disagreement an attack, nor do I see critiquing one's behavior as an attack, though it certainly is a critique. This is of course where my pragmatic philosophy helps me immensely. I wish all other people could be as pragmatic as I. then maybe (just maybe) MoPo might be a more peaceful nation Rich At 04:19 PM 6/12/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: As an outsider, I'm puzzled by these personal attacks. What does Rich have against you, Bruce? It's so confusing to understand the allegiances between one dealer and another, or to figure out why one hates the other... Bruce, I hope I didn't offend you when I thanked Rich for posting his story -- especially since Rich was writing about lobbing dog poop and my age while I was writing that post... Sigh had I known... From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 10:05 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott I can't promise how I will feel. I have never posted against you in any way until now, and even now it was solely because of your relentless attacks on me. I don't see why you feel anything here is your battle. I am weary of the entire endless bickering, but will not allow attacks to go unanswered, so if you want all this to end, then let it end. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:55 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com wrote: Bruce I think I've had enough of this silliness in the last hour, you accused me of smearing you on APF. You may be my friend, but at some point, I just can't take it anymore. I want your assurance, before I post a Bruce isn't perfect story I do know, that you will not get angry at my post. I am not disturbed at you as my friend, but I'm getting disturbed at you as La Bruce and I'm not wanting to antagonize you, But I think it's time for some leveling of the playing field Rich At 06:13 PM 6/11/2012, Bruce Hershenson wrote: Was this addressed? Is there no chance the person who opened the package did not enter all the contents? If it was, then that really completely closes the matter, down to an unsolvable puzzle. If it was addressed, I certainly apologize. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Franc fdav...@verizon.net wrote: I can't believe Bruce that you're actually doing one more pass on this. You have a great operation. I've bought many things from you over the years and I was always very happy with your service. But so does Grey. Constantly criticizing his operation, doesn't make yours any better. It just makes you seem unprofessional. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 8:15 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Kudaka and Lippincott Grey That was a great detailed reply. I just have one question (and forgive me if this has been addressed in some way, because there has been so much posted about this that I can't wrap my head around it all. My question is, were you personally there when either or both packages were opened? If not, how can you know that an employee did not remove the more valuable posters that are now supposedly missing? It seems that this is a loose end that I have not seen addressed. In my operation, I have one person who opens absolutely EVERY package (Clark) and he has been with me 10 years and I trust him implicitly. I want him to open every single package so that the day a dispute like this would arise (and it never has) then the ONLY two possible answers
Re: [MOPO] Why do so few women participate on MoPo?
You should consider writing a blog. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Geraldine Kudaka Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 8:10 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Why do so few women participate on MoPo? The odd thing is that women love movies. I don't know how many of my women friends belong to movie groups. They meet up to have a bite and see a flick together. They share videos and pass along DVDs to each other. But poster collectors? I hadn't really thought about the number of women collectors vs the number of male collectors so I did a quick google search. From bankrate.com From birth, American women and men are raised to view and spend money quite differently. Our socialization, a trained behavior, is primarily modeled after our same-sex parent. While experts agree these generalizations are breaking down, the money paradigm most of us have been dealt is similar... Women, trained to nurture and seek acceptance, view money as a means to create a lifestyle. Women spend on things that enhance day-to-day living. Theirs is a now-money orientation. Men, trained to fix and provide, view money as a means to capture and accumulate value. Men don't spend, they invest. Men don't want something, they need it. Theirs is a future-money orientation... The article goes on the elaborate what each of the sexes accumulates or collects.. Women like to shop whereas men get trophies... Men will say, 'I need a new computer.' No, you want a new computer because it's faster, it has more bells and whistles, says Hayden. Men move those things they want into an investment category, 'This is a good investment.' And then they can't even enjoy it, they can't go, 'Oh, this is so much fun!' Everything is a serious need and everything is an investment. What men need to do is kind of ease up a little bit and enjoy what they're actually able to provide for themselves...snip... Women spend their money gradually over time, and men spend it on a number of big things. They spend really big to show off because there's a lot of ego risk on men today to do better than the next guy, she says.. As far as bankrate.com is concerned, women would rather spend hundreds buying a new pair of shoes or outfit, then go out to dinner and the movies where as guys will take that $$$ and invest in movie memorabilia. Guys will then join and post on MOPO to follow their investment. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters
Actually, it's more like Single White Female. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 3:32 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters WHY do you want to see the links? I CAN compile them, but it will take a while, and I don't see the value. So explain to me why and then I will see if it is worth my time to do so. And I don't see why you object to me sending MY customers to your website.It is like in Miracle on 34th Street where Macy's sent customers to Gimbel's! Bruce On 6/15/12, Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com wrote: Yet we still did not get the links? From: Bruce Hershenson [mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 12:30 PM To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters We mis-auctioned it SEVEN times, and you only did it three times, so we are over twice as wrong and negligent as you were! We clearly explained what we did. Since you took time to post, will you answer what your policy is in these cases (will you offer refunds?) and will you correct the listings in your online results? Bruce On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.commailto:gre...@ha.com wrote: Odd as we have no direct link to the auctions from Emovieposter in which they were incorrectly sold! Please advise? From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.E DU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 6:51 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters We recently auctioned a French one-panel poster from Blow-Up, and we said it was from the first 1967 release, and then Thierry Brahme, co-owner (with Holiday Russell) of All Poster Forum posted thqt it was a re-release. That set us on a journey researching that poster (and the ones from the other releases) and we came up with the following definitive answers (corroborated by all the leading French poster experts and by the fine research available on Ed Poole's LAMP site): There are three releases, and they look very similar (almost everything is the same, except the R70s omits the 1967 from the top Cannes tagline) THIS IS ORIGINAL: 1967 in the top Cannes tagline ATELIERS LALANDE 91-WISSOUS - TEL 920.98.75.76 THIS IS R69: 1967 in the top Cannes tagline LALANDE COURBET 91-WISSOUS THIS IS R70s: NO 1967 in the top Cannes tagline Ste EXPL Ets LALANDE COURBET 91-WISSOUS You can see a visual comparison here: http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/blowup_research_reference_images.jp g Now the above information showed we had just auctioned a R69 as an original, so of course we then contacted that buyer and told them what had happened and cancelled the sale. We next went over our ENTIRE history of every auctioning versions of this French poster, and discovered that we have only once had an original, and that there were 4 times where we incorrectly identified a R69 as original and three times where we incorrectly identified a R70s as a R69 (because we were given erroneous information some years ago that led us astray). Fortunately, we keep accurate records of every past sale, so we contacted those 7 buyers and offered to take back the seven posters for a full refund (including shipping both ways so they lose nothing) or to make a partial refund if the price they paid was too high based on the false info, EVEN IF YEARS HAVE GONE BY, and we long ago paid the consignors. Once we have heard from all the buyers we will likely lose many hundreds of dollars, but it is well worth it, because it lets our buyers know just how much we stand behind everything we sell! We then took a quick look at the Internet to see if we could find other examples that were being sold incorrectly. We found that Dave Lieberman of Cinemasterpieces had one for sale that was a R69 but was incorrectly identified as original, and we contacted him, and he promptly corrected it. We went to Heritage's archive on their site, and discovered that they obviously had incorrect information (like we did) but they had DIFFERENT incorrect information than we did, resulting in their selling three different posters, one from each release, and identifying them incorrectly every time. This is the original that they sold as R70s: http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216lotNo=53072http:// movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216lotNo=53072http://moviepo sters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216lotNo=53072%3Ehttp://movieposters .ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161216lotNo=53072 This is the R69 that they sold as 1966: http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=693lotNo=65245http://mov
Re: [MOPO] OT: JULY 4TH LONG WEEKEND EBAY SALES?
I have found in general that Ebay goes off the cliff in the summer. Hence I post very little during July and August and July 4th weekend is especially bad. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Irvin J. Gelb Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 8:03 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] OT: JULY 4TH LONG WEEKEND EBAY SALES? Hi Everyone, Since July 4th lands smack in the middle of the week on Wednesday this year do you think people will be taking a longer than usual holiday weekend Wed/Thurs/Fri.? I'm wondering what to do with Ebay sales that week. If it's a 5 day holiday there will be fewer than usual eyeballs on Ebay that weekend. What are the rest of you Ebayers doing July 4th week considering this? Take care, irv Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters
I guess after the seeminlgly endless flow of e-mail from Bruce, he was just too busy to answer this one! -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Zeev Drach Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:36 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters I don't think we've received a response from Bruce to this question, have we? Zeev From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Sean Linkenback Sent: June 15, 2012 5:23 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters Bruce, did you contact Grey/Heritage before you made this public posting so that they could quickly correct it the way you did with Cinemasterpieces, or was your first inclination to post the information to MoPo as quickly as possible? -Original Message- From: Bruce Hershenson [mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 04:54 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters Here is a faster way to the seven items that were incorrectly listed: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/film_title/BLOW-UP/type/French%25201p/s ort/4/archive.html This has all the 9 Blow-Up posters we auctioned These were the two that were correct: http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/2010215.html http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/2010215.html http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/archiveitem/7989641.html Those two have no year under them. The other seven are the ones we auctioned incorrectly. The release info on them has now been corrected. The original prices are still there until we see what the buyers tell us they want to do. If you want to use the above to create an email that you send to your customers, telling them that we listed SEVEN posters incorrectly, then that is fine with me. On 6/15/12, Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com wrote: WHY do you want to see the links? I CAN compile them, but it will take a while, and I don't see the value. So explain to me why and then I will see if it is worth my time to do so. And I don't see why you object to me sending MY customers to your website.It is like in Miracle on 34th Street where Macy's sent customers to Gimbel's! Bruce On 6/15/12, Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com wrote: Yet we still did not get the links? From: Bruce Hershenson [mailto:brucehershen...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 12:30 PM To: Smith, Grey - 1367 Cc: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters We mis-auctioned it SEVEN times, and you only did it three times, so we are over twice as wrong and negligent as you were! We clearly explained what we did. Since you took time to post, will you answer what your policy is in these cases (will you offer refunds?) and will you correct the listings in your online results? Bruce On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.commailto:gre...@ha.com wrote: Odd as we have no direct link to the auctions from Emovieposter in which they were incorrectly sold! Please advise? From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 6:51 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] The curious case of the French Blow-Up posters We recently auctioned a French one-panel poster from Blow-Up, and we said it was from the first 1967 release, and then Thierry Brahme, co-owner (with Holiday Russell) of All Poster Forum posted thqt it was a re-release. That set us on a journey researching that poster (and the ones from the other releases) and we came up with the following definitive answers (corroborated by all the leading French poster experts and by the fine research available on Ed Poole's LAMP site): There are three releases, and they look very similar (almost everything is the same, except the R70s omits the 1967 from the top Cannes tagline) THIS IS ORIGINAL: 1967 in the top Cannes tagline ATELIERS LALANDE 91-WISSOUS - TEL 920.98.75.76 THIS IS R69: 1967 in the top Cannes tagline LALANDE COURBET 91-WISSOUS THIS IS R70s: NO 1967 in the top Cannes tagline Ste EXPL Ets LALANDE COURBET 91-WISSOUS You can see a visual comparison here: http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/blowup_research_reference_images.jpg Now the above information showed we had just auctioned a R69 as an original, so of course we then contacted that buyer and told them what had happened and cancelled the sale. We next went over our ENTIRE history of every auctioning versions of this French poster, and discovered that we have only once had an original, and that there were 4 times where we incorrectly identified a R69 as original and three times where we
Re: [MOPO] Heads up for sellers
I am well aware of this . Ebay has been doing this for over a year now. I believe I first posted about it when they changed their policy. It just forces everyone to boost their sales price to incorporate the additional commission on shipping. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2012 3:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Heads up for sellers Just to momentarily divert your attention from The curious case ... etc, I was talking to another prominent dealer yesterday about rising postage costs and I was surprised to hear that he wasnt aware that eBay take a cut out of the postage fees that sellers charge. The final value commission fee is based on the total that is charged on the transaction so if a seller gets 10.00 for an auction item and charges 10.00 postage, eBay calculates their commission fee on the total of 20.00. This is one reason why many sellers have had to put their postage charges up in recent times. I am curious to hear if any other sellers were unaware of this. Regards John Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Unsolicited praise we recently received from one of our buyers
Is MOPO now the appropriate venue to start reposting feedback comments? If so, I've got about 3,000 on Ebay I could post here for everyone's reading pleasure and I'm sure the many other dealers on this board could do the same. Bruce, you are out of control. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:03 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Unsolicited praise we recently received from one of our buyers If you are happy with the service you receive from the movie poster auctions you deal with, then great! But if you find one or more of them lacking in any way, consider the following unsolicited message we recently received from one of our buyers, and if you are one of the very few movie poster collectors who isn't a regular bidder with us, consider placing one order with us, and see why our business generates the following kinds of comments on a regular basis: To Angie and all those at eMoviePoster: You are the BEST. In fact, the reason I buy thru you ( and ONLY YOU) is that you give me absolute certainty on all engagements and purchases. I've followed you from eBay to emovieposter.com and I'll never go anywhere else. WHY? Honesty Reliability Truthfulness AND, your shipping and packaging in the BEST! It's like buying a new APPLE product. The packaging, the care and attention. I can't fault it. The PAY HOLD feature is a real incentive for me personally. It allows me the freedom to trade as I want without incurring the substantial cost. Then, when I do get my PAY AND HOLD delivered, its pure joy. As the mailman delivers my sturdy mother lode of tube or pouch, it feels like Christmas. The only thing that gets me a bit is your auto-response engines. Man, you can make them cooler. Hey, I'm not a huge trader, but I am regular watcher/bidder. I'm just missing a bit of the human interaction. Now I dig you guys run a HUGE business, but you know that ultimately what any customer wants is a direct personal relationship. P.S. Keep it up. If you ever need a testimonial to your security, reliability and honesty for international buyers, I'm your man. Incidentally, I replied to his comment about our auto-responses as follows: This is Bruce (and I assure this is Bruce personally!). I too really miss those long ago days when I only had a couple of thousand customers and I could reply to every one of them personally, and I was on a first name basis with almost all of them! But the business has grown so much (34,000+ customers) that :auto-emails are a necessity! Myself, I really hate when I get letters that are supposedly from someone, and they have personal touches inserted, but you can tell that it was machine written. So we go in a different direction. We make our automated e-mails absolutely sound like they ARE automated, so that people can tell that they are, and that they shouldn't take anything in them personally, IF IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM SPECIFICALLY. Of course, in these days when most people skim things, some people can misunderstand our auto-messages, but overall, the vast majority of our 34,000+ buyers are able to distinguish between automated e-mails and regular ones, and can work with our system well. If we didn't have those automated e-mails, then we would surely have to either have LOTS more employees, or way fewer auctions, and I don't imagine anyone wants that (because with lots more employees, we would have to start charging buyers premiums!). You CAN call in any time and pay for your order that way and talk to our super-friendly people, but of course you need to recognize that they are also super-busy, so they won't be able to talk for a long time, but I know that we have far better customer service than any other company I know of. Which brings me to your comments! Lately, we have had a series of events that have put extra stress on everyone here (mostly non-work-related stuff, like employees with close family members having grave illnesses, etc), so it really is wonderful to get an e-mail like this. I will circulate it to everyone here so that they can really know that all our hard work is appreciated! Thanks very much, Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 26 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/20120523_emovieposter_because.gif Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo
Re: [MOPO] Unsolicited praise we recently received from one of our buyers
Is this the new spam? -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Hershenson Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 8:03 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] Unsolicited praise we recently received from one of our buyers If you are happy with the service you receive from the movie poster auctions you deal with, then great! But if you find one or more of them lacking in any way, consider the following unsolicited message we recently received from one of our buyers, and if you are one of the very few movie poster collectors who isn't a regular bidder with us, consider placing one order with us, and see why our business generates the following kinds of comments on a regular basis: To Angie and all those at eMoviePoster: You are the BEST. In fact, the reason I buy thru you ( and ONLY YOU) is that you give me absolute certainty on all engagements and purchases. I've followed you from eBay to emovieposter.com and I'll never go anywhere else. WHY? Honesty Reliability Truthfulness AND, your shipping and packaging in the BEST! It's like buying a new APPLE product. The packaging, the care and attention. I can't fault it. The PAY HOLD feature is a real incentive for me personally. It allows me the freedom to trade as I want without incurring the substantial cost. Then, when I do get my PAY AND HOLD delivered, its pure joy. As the mailman delivers my sturdy mother lode of tube or pouch, it feels like Christmas. The only thing that gets me a bit is your auto-response engines. Man, you can make them cooler. Hey, I'm not a huge trader, but I am regular watcher/bidder. I'm just missing a bit of the human interaction. Now I dig you guys run a HUGE business, but you know that ultimately what any customer wants is a direct personal relationship. P.S. Keep it up. If you ever need a testimonial to your security, reliability and honesty for international buyers, I'm your man. Incidentally, I replied to his comment about our auto-responses as follows: This is Bruce (and I assure this is Bruce personally!). I too really miss those long ago days when I only had a couple of thousand customers and I could reply to every one of them personally, and I was on a first name basis with almost all of them! But the business has grown so much (34,000+ customers) that :auto-emails are a necessity! Myself, I really hate when I get letters that are supposedly from someone, and they have personal touches inserted, but you can tell that it was machine written. So we go in a different direction. We make our automated e-mails absolutely sound like they ARE automated, so that people can tell that they are, and that they shouldn't take anything in them personally, IF IT DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM SPECIFICALLY. Of course, in these days when most people skim things, some people can misunderstand our auto-messages, but overall, the vast majority of our 34,000+ buyers are able to distinguish between automated e-mails and regular ones, and can work with our system well. If we didn't have those automated e-mails, then we would surely have to either have LOTS more employees, or way fewer auctions, and I don't imagine anyone wants that (because with lots more employees, we would have to start charging buyers premiums!). You CAN call in any time and pay for your order that way and talk to our super-friendly people, but of course you need to recognize that they are also super-busy, so they won't be able to talk for a long time, but I know that we have far better customer service than any other company I know of. Which brings me to your comments! Lately, we have had a series of events that have put extra stress on everyone here (mostly non-work-related stuff, like employees with close family members having grave illnesses, etc), so it really is wonderful to get an e-mail like this. I will circulate it to everyone here so that they can really know that all our hard work is appreciated! Thanks very much, Bruce -- Bruce Hershenson and the other 26 members of the eMoviePoster.com team P.O. Box 874 West Plains, MO 65775 Phone: 417-256-9616 (hours: Mon-Fri 9 to 5 except from 12 to 1 when we take lunch) our site http://www.emovieposter.com/ our http://www.emovieposter.com/agallery/all.html auctions http://www.emovieposter.com/unused/20120523_emovieposter_because.gif Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to:
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
Snooze control -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 1:52 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced more tiresome claptrap At 09:25 AM 6/22/2012, Geraldine Kudaka wrote: Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226 http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film’s original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [ mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced
What Neil said. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Neil Jaworski Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:27 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced No, Geraldine, really don't say any more. You have completely taken over this forum with your repeated, wearying, unsubstantiated claims. I suspect any sympathy for you has long since evaporated. Mine certainly has. If your claims have any basis in fact, it's for the law to decide. I know that you're hoping to leave a series of allegations in a public forum that future possible customers of Heritage will come across. However, because you've gone on and on ad nauseum and alienated so many MOPOers, there are almost as many negative public comments about your own motives, reliability and character. I won't comment publicly myself on how sane or otherwise I think you are (have a wild stab in the dark), but I suspect that your credibility is what the casual reader of the forum will consider and weigh when reading this thread, more so than Heritage's business practices. Sometimes in life it's better to just say your piece and then shut up. Neil _ From: Geraldine Kudaka gkud...@rocketmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, 22 June 2012, 17:25 Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Gee, Grey, the Alien teaser 2 fillmore/avalon posters were part of that batch we sent. Need I say more? _ From: Smith, Grey - 1367 gre...@ha.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Helmut, Funny you would mention that poster! http://movieposters.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=161226lotNo=53008 This poster, from the film's original release, is the only item that does seem to get better money. I have sold it in the past for over $2000. Makes the one running now seem like a bargain! I have also sold the Alien book for close to $2000. From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Helmut Hamm Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 11:12 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Rare ALIEN Glory book -- less than 30 produced Jeffrey, I have yet to see any Alien paper to bring even $500 or more. as long as it's original and in good condition, I'd be happy to pay $500 for an advance onesheet on ALIEN. Cheers, Helmut http://www.filmposter.net Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Metropolis Poster's Troubles Featured in the Hollywood Reporter
Someone explain to me what I'm missing in this story so far. Why would Ken file for bankcruptcy, if he owned a repayment of a $500K loan, when it is well-known that his collection is worth probably close to $5 million dollars? Why would he risk his collection so that he could attempt to default on this loan? Did he not presu,e hat his assets would be seized? FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of JOHN REID Vintage Movie Memorabilia Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2012 6:15 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Metropolis Poster's Troubles Featured in the Hollywood Reporter he estimates its value at just $250,000, a number most observers view as comically low. High-end estimates put the value of the poster at more than $1 million, which would make it the first poster to cross that barrier in a public sale. Conversely, a sale at Schacter's low estimate of $250,000 or even any number below $690,000 would represent a softening of the poster market at a time when other collectibles such as movie props and rare comics are selling for record amounts. If this poster is to be sold as part of a liquidation sale presumably with no reserve, the comically low estimate of $250,000.00 might be not far off the mark. Regards John - Original Message - From: David Kusumoto mailto:davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2012 7:58 AM Subject: [MOPO] Metropolis Poster's Troubles Featured in the Hollywood Reporter I'm not surprised that the splash publicity surrounding the infamous Metropolis 3-sheet - and its brief offering for sale for $850,000 before it was suddenly pulled from Sean and Peter's MoviePosterExchange site - could lead to to more stories, albeit nearly four months later. There are many interesting things in the article below that - while NOT NEW to hobbyists - are still new news to the rest of the world. I find it intriguing that The Hollywood Reporter boldly takes credit - asserting media publicity about the poster - and the publication of its own story in March 2012 - led to its seizure by federal authorities. The update below cuts through the tedium of going through reams of court documents posted elsewhere. I now wonder if editors at other news organizations - might piggy-back or copy-cat the Hollywood Reporter - with updated stories of their own. -d. World's Most Expensive Movie Poster Seized in Bankruptcy Case One of four surviving Metropolis posters along with valuable King Kong and Invisible Man posters will be sold as part of a liquidation auction. 12:01 PM PDT 6/22/2012 by Andy Lewis Metropolis Title Image - H 2012 http://thr4.pgmcdn.net/sites/default/files/imagecache/thumbnail_570x321/201 2/03/metropolis_large_a_l.jpg A rare and coveted Metropolis movie poster -- one of only four known surviving copies from the 1927 silent classic -- has been seized as part of a Chapter 7 liquidation bankruptcy case involving its owner Kenneth Schacter, a well-known collector. The poster will be auctioned off soon. The case is being overseen by the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Los Angeles, with John Menchaca serving as the bankruptcy trustee. The historical importance of the Fritz Lang-helmed movie and the rarity and beautiful art deco design of the Metropolis poster combine to make it the crown jewel of the poster world, according to Sean Linkenback, a well-known poster dealer. (See the full poster below.) The poster had been offered for sale in March for $850,000 by Movieposterexchange.com. Estimates vary as to what it would fetch on the open market. Schacter paid a still-record $690,000 for it in 2005. In the bankruptcy filing, he estimates its value at just $250,000, a number most observers view as comically low. High-end estimates put the value of the poster at more than $1 million, which would make it the first poster to cross that barrier in a public sale. Conversely, a sale at Schacter's low estimate of $250,000 or even any number below $690,000 would represent a softening of the poster market at a time when other collectibles such as movie props and rare comics are selling for record amounts. Other key items in Schacter's collection include a King Kong poster from 1933, which is considered by experts to be nearly as valuable as the Metropolis poster, and a 1933 one-sheet teaser from The Invisible Man. The total collection could be worth as much as $5 million, according to court filings, but the exact value is uncertain because Schacter has ignored court orders to provide a full and complete inventory. It was THR's reporting http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/metropolis-poster-record-leona rdo-dicaprio-298114 about the poster being offered for sale that pushed Schacter from a Chapter 11 reorganization bankruptcy to a Chapter 7 liquidation bankruptcy. Schacter had filed
Re: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND
For The Paradine Case, you need armour. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Michael B Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 9:47 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: [MOPO] FAVORITE FILM THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFEND most of our favorite films that we watch over and over, again, share tons of loyalty by others. (CASABLANCA, DOUBLE INDEMNITY, VERTIGO, etc. is on everyone's list.) BUT, what is a favorite film of your that you need to defend? that is, what film do you believe is GREAT but lacks the enthusiasm of others? my answer is THE PARADINE CASE. michael _ Summer concert season is here! Find your http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi0006 favorite artists on tour at TourTracker.com. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] favorite film of yours that you need to defend
It's not my favorite film but I film I like that nobody else seems to is Monsieur Verdoux. Another film I think is verygood but seems to elude people even people who like The Red Shoes, which I don't, is The Story Of Three Loves. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] On the other side of the coin.....
That's easy. Here are a few: Clockwork Orange The Big Sleep Psycho Mary Poppins FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Richard Auras Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 12:15 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] On the other side of the coin. To piggyback on Michaels great question. What film does everyone seem to like and you just don't get it? Some of you will hate me but my choice is 2001 A Space Odyssey. Rick www.ilovefilms.com _ From: Franc fdav...@verizon.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2009 11:10:00 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] favorite film of yours that you need to defend It's not my favorite film but I film I like that nobody else seems to is Monsieur Verdoux. Another film I think is verygood but seems to elude people even people who like The Red Shoes, which I don't, is The Story Of Three Loves. FRANC Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com http://www.filmfan.com/ ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
