Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist not writing the number to the TOC

[Willi Egger via ntg-context]

Thank you Hans,

that is, what I need. It was even easy to implement in the layout-file only :-) 
because these sections where already under a “mysection” head.

Kind regards

Willi

> On 27 Mar 2023, at 15:52, Hans Hagen via ntg-context  
> wrote:
> 
> On 3/26/2023 3:10 PM, Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:
>> Hello Hraban,
>> thank you. I missed this point. However, adding a dot behind the number does 
>> not appear to solve the problem. The title’s text still starts at the left 
>> margin which looks very odd.
>> Kind regards
>> Willi
>>> On 26 Mar 2023, at 12:51, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 25.03.23 um 23:05 schrieb Willi Egger via ntg-context:
>>>> Good evening!
>>>> I have a setup in which I need to send info to the TOC:
>>>> Consider the following example:
>>>> \starttext
>>>> \starttitle[title=Contents]
>>>>   \placelist[chapter][criterium=all]
>>>> \stoptitle
>>>> \startchapter[title=Mychapter]
>>>>   \input knuth
>>>>   \startsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC]
>>>> \writetolist[chapter]{1}{I am in TOC!}
>>>> \input ward
>>>>   \stopsubject
>>>> \stopchapter
>>>> \stoptext
>>>> According to the Wiki I should get te number (1) in the TOC. Instead the 
>>>> text starts at the height of the chapter-numbering and is not carrying the 
>>>> given number.
>>>> Am I doing something wrong?
>>> 
>>> The wiki says:
>>> 
>>> “The default table of contents is combined list. To write to it one has to 
>>> choose the level to which it should be inserted: 
>>> \writetolist[chapter]{1.}{Chapter list entry A},
>>> \writetolist[section]{1.1}{Section list entry A}, etc.”
>>> 
>>> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/writetolist
>>> 
>>> So maybe you need a dot?
>>> 
>>> Otherwise I don’t know.
> \definehead[xsubject][section][number=no]
> 
> \setuplist[xsubject][margin=2em]
> 
> \starttext
>\starttitle[title=Contents]
>  \placelist[chapter,xsubject][criterium=all]
>\stoptitle
>\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
>  \input knuth
>  \startxsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC1] \input ward \stopxsubject
>  \startxsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC2] \input ward \stopxsubject
>\stopchapter
> \stoptext
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist not writing the number to the TOC

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 3/26/2023 3:10 PM, Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:

Hello Hraban,

thank you. I missed this point. However, adding a dot behind the number does 
not appear to solve the problem. The title’s text still starts at the left 
margin which looks very odd.

Kind regards
Willi


On 26 Mar 2023, at 12:51, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
 wrote:

Am 25.03.23 um 23:05 schrieb Willi Egger via ntg-context:

Good evening!
I have a setup in which I need to send info to the TOC:
Consider the following example:
\starttext
\starttitle[title=Contents]
   \placelist[chapter][criterium=all]
\stoptitle
\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
   \input knuth
   \startsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC]
 \writetolist[chapter]{1}{I am in TOC!}
 \input ward
   \stopsubject
\stopchapter
\stoptext
According to the Wiki I should get te number (1) in the TOC. Instead the text 
starts at the height of the chapter-numbering and is not carrying the given 
number.
Am I doing something wrong?


The wiki says:

“The default table of contents is combined list. To write to it one has to 
choose the level to which it should be inserted: 
\writetolist[chapter]{1.}{Chapter list entry A},
\writetolist[section]{1.1}{Section list entry A}, etc.”

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/writetolist

So maybe you need a dot?

Otherwise I don’t know.

\definehead[xsubject][section][number=no]

\setuplist[xsubject][margin=2em]

\starttext
\starttitle[title=Contents]
  \placelist[chapter,xsubject][criterium=all]
\stoptitle
\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
  \input knuth
  \startxsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC1] \input ward 
\stopxsubject
  \startxsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC2] \input ward 
\stopxsubject

\stopchapter
\stoptext



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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist not writing the number to the TOC

[Willi Egger via ntg-context]

Hello Hraban,

thank you. I missed this point. However, adding a dot behind the number does 
not appear to solve the problem. The title’s text still starts at the left 
margin which looks very odd.

Kind regards
Willi

> On 26 Mar 2023, at 12:51, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Am 25.03.23 um 23:05 schrieb Willi Egger via ntg-context:
>> Good evening!
>> I have a setup in which I need to send info to the TOC:
>> Consider the following example:
>> \starttext
>> \starttitle[title=Contents]
>>   \placelist[chapter][criterium=all]
>> \stoptitle
>> \startchapter[title=Mychapter]
>>   \input knuth
>>   \startsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC]
>> \writetolist[chapter]{1}{I am in TOC!}
>> \input ward
>>   \stopsubject
>> \stopchapter
>> \stoptext
>> According to the Wiki I should get te number (1) in the TOC. Instead the 
>> text starts at the height of the chapter-numbering and is not carrying the 
>> given number.
>> Am I doing something wrong?
> 
> The wiki says:
> 
> “The default table of contents is combined list. To write to it one has to 
> choose the level to which it should be inserted: 
> \writetolist[chapter]{1.}{Chapter list entry A},
> \writetolist[section]{1.1}{Section list entry A}, etc.”
> 
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/writetolist
> 
> So maybe you need a dot?
> 
> Otherwise I don’t know.
> 
> Hraban
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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist not writing the number to the TOC

[Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context]

Am 25.03.23 um 23:05 schrieb Willi Egger via ntg-context:

Good evening!

I have a setup in which I need to send info to the TOC:

Consider the following example:

\starttext

\starttitle[title=Contents]
   \placelist[chapter][criterium=all]
\stoptitle

\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
   \input knuth
   \startsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC]
 \writetolist[chapter]{1}{I am in TOC!}
 \input ward
   \stopsubject
\stopchapter

\stoptext

According to the Wiki I should get te number (1) in the TOC. Instead the text 
starts at the height of the chapter-numbering and is not carrying the given 
number.

Am I doing something wrong?


The wiki says:

“The default table of contents is combined list. To write to it one has 
to choose the level to which it should be inserted: 
\writetolist[chapter]{1.}{Chapter list entry A},

\writetolist[section]{1.1}{Section list entry A}, etc.”

https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/writetolist

So maybe you need a dot?

Otherwise I don’t know.

Hraban
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[NTG-context] \writetolist not writing the number to the TOC

[Willi Egger via ntg-context]

Good evening!

I have a setup in which I need to send info to the TOC:

Consider the following example:

\starttext

\starttitle[title=Contents]
  \placelist[chapter][criterium=all]
\stoptitle

\startchapter[title=Mychapter]
  \input knuth
  \startsubject[title=Subject will be in TOC]
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{I am in TOC!}
\input ward
  \stopsubject 
\stopchapter

\stoptext

According to the Wiki I should get te number (1) in the TOC. Instead the text 
starts at the height of the chapter-numbering and is not carrying the given 
number.

Am I doing something wrong?

Kind regards
Willi
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Re: [NTG-context] Confusing interaction between \writetolist and bookmarks (bug?)

[musa furber via ntg-context]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 6:28 PM Hans Hagen via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:

> On 11/22/2021 10:49 AM, musa furber via ntg-context wrote:
> > I am relatively new to ConTeXt and have encountered something that does
> > not work as I expected it to based on various documentation and examples.
> >
> > My book design requires the front matter to contain an abridged table of
> > contents just for chapters, and a detailed table of contents in the back
> > matter.
> >
> > Everything worked fine -- including the PDF bookmarks and table of
> > contents -- until I started using \writetolist to manually inject
> > additional sections and subsections into their respective lists. The
> > manually injected entries do show up (as I expected), but their
> > corresponding PDF bookmarks get repeated (not what I expected).
> you can probably best use
>
> \startsection[title={...},list={...},bookmark={...}]
> ...
> \stopsection
>

Thank you, Hans. This pointer is exactly what I needed.
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Re: [NTG-context] Confusing interaction between \writetolist and bookmarks (bug?)

[Musa Furber via ntg-context]

On 22 November 2021 at 18:28:44, Hans Hagen via ntg-context (
ntg-context@ntg.nl) wrote:

On 11/22/2021 10:49 AM, musa furber via ntg-context wrote:
> I am relatively new to ConTeXt and have encountered something that does
> not work as I expected it to based on various documentation and examples.
>
> My book design requires the front matter to contain an abridged table of
> contents just for chapters, and a detailed table of contents in the back
> matter.
>
> Everything worked fine -- including the PDF bookmarks and table of
> contents -- until I started using \writetolist to manually inject
> additional sections and subsections into their respective lists. The
> manually injected entries do show up (as I expected), but their
> corresponding PDF bookmarks get repeated (not what I expected).
you can probably best use

\startsection[title={...},list={...},bookmark={...}]
...
\stopsection


I do not think that is an option for me.

The book is bilingual, with Arabic and English. There are places where I
want the chapter, section, and subsection titles to be bilingual as well,
with English on the left and Arabic on the right. I accomplish this using
the following…


\defineparagraphs[BilingualTitle][n=3,before={\blank[2*line]},after=,]

\setupparagraphs[BilingualTitle][1][width=.4\textwidth]

\setupparagraphs[BilingualTitle][2][width=.12\textwidth]

\setupparagraphs[BilingualTitle][3][width=.4\textwidth]


\define[2]\BilingualChapter

   {\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{}{#1}}

   \startBilingualTitle


 
\noindentation\setlatin{}\tfd\setupinterlinespace\feature[+][smallcaps]\word{#1}\feature[<]

   \nextBilingualTitle

   \hfill\nextBilingualTitle

   \noindentation\setarabic{}\tfd\setupinterlinespace{#2}

   \stopBilingualTitle

  }


…with variants for section, subsection, and subsection.


Regards,

Musa
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Re: [NTG-context] Confusing interaction between \writetolist and bookmarks (bug?)

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 11/22/2021 10:49 AM, musa furber via ntg-context wrote:
I am relatively new to ConTeXt and have encountered something that does 
not work as I expected it to based on various documentation and examples.


My book design requires the front matter to contain an abridged table of 
contents just for chapters, and a detailed table of contents in the back 
matter.


Everything worked fine -- including the PDF bookmarks and table of 
contents -- until I started using \writetolist to manually inject 
additional sections and subsections into their respective lists. The 
manually injected entries do show up (as I expected), but their 
corresponding PDF bookmarks get repeated (not what I expected).

you can probably best use

\startsection[title={...},list={...},bookmark={...}]
...
\stopsection

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[NTG-context] Confusing interaction between \writetolist and bookmarks (bug?)

[musa furber via ntg-context]

I am relatively new to ConTeXt and have encountered something that does not
work as I expected it to based on various documentation and examples.

My book design requires the front matter to contain an abridged table of
contents just for chapters, and a detailed table of contents in the back
matter.

Everything worked fine -- including the PDF bookmarks and table of contents
-- until I started using \writetolist to manually inject additional
sections and subsections into their respective lists. The manually injected
entries do show up (as I expected), but their corresponding PDF bookmarks
get repeated (not what I expected).

Here is a M(not)WD:

###begin
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\placebookmarks[chapter, section][chapter, section]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=bookmark]

\starttext

  \startfrontmatter
\title{Contents}
\placelist[chapter]
  \stopfrontmatter

  \startbodymatter
\chapter{Chapter ONE}
\section{Section ONE}
\writetolist[section]{}{Section via writetolist ONE}
\chapter{Chapter TWO}
  \stopbodymatter

  \startbackmatter
\chapter{Detailed Table of Contents}
\placecontent[criterium=all]
  \stopbackmatter

\stoptext
###end

The repetitions go away when any one of the following is done:
-- commenting out the front/body/back commands
-- commenting out both contents at front and back
-- commenting out just back contents
-- commenting out the \writetolist

Have I misunderstood something?

Many thanks,
Musa
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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist command...

[Willi Egger]

Hans, thank you for your tip!

Willi
> On 4 mrt. 2016, at 12:08, Hans Hagen <pra...@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
> On 3/4/2016 5:37 AM, Willi Egger wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I need to write to a list, however it appears that the second argument from 
>> \writetolist[name]{number}{ext} does not end up in the list. — What do I 
>> miss?
>> 
>> \starttext
>>  \startsubject[title=Contents]
>>  \placelist[section][criterium=all]
>>  \stopsubject
>> 
>>  \startsubject[title=A Paragraph as Subject]
>>  \writetolist[section]{1}{Writetolist: Subject title}
>>  \stopsubject
>> \stoptext
> 
> headnumber=always
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist command...

[Hans Hagen]

On 3/4/2016 5:37 AM, Willi Egger wrote:

Hi all,

I need to write to a list, however it appears that the second argument from 
\writetolist[name]{number}{ext} does not end up in the list. — What do I miss?

\starttext
\startsubject[title=Contents]
\placelist[section][criterium=all]
\stopsubject

\startsubject[title=A Paragraph as Subject]
\writetolist[section]{1}{Writetolist: Subject title}
\stopsubject
\stoptext


headnumber=always


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[NTG-context] \writetolist command...

[Willi Egger]

Hi all,

I need to write to a list, however it appears that the second argument from 
\writetolist[name]{number}{ext} does not end up in the list. — What do I miss?

\starttext
\startsubject[title=Contents]
\placelist[section][criterium=all]
\stopsubject

\startsubject[title=A Paragraph as Subject]
\writetolist[section]{1}{Writetolist: Subject title}
\stopsubject
\stoptext

Kind regards

Willi
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Re: [NTG-context] Regression with \doboundtext in \writetolist

[Hans Hagen]

On 10/11/2015 5:21 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:

The following example works with older versions of ConTeXt, such as the
version from 20150325 in my repository. It fails with TL15 and later,
including the current standalone beta.

% macros=mkvi
\setwidthof {99}\to\IDWidth\relax
\def\STWidth{\dimexpr\textwidth-\IDWidth+1cm}
\definelist[OList]
\setuplist
[OList][criterium=all,alternative=c,pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument]

\starttexdefinition OLister #ID#String
{\writetolist[OList]{}{\hbox{\simplealignedbox{\IDWidth}{left}{#ID\quad}
{\doboundtext{#String}{\STWidth}{…}
\stoptexdefinition

\starttext
\OLister1{Some list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister2{Yet another list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister3{A list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister4{Different list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\subject{List half width}
\startcolumns[n=2]
\placelist[OList]
\stopcolumns
\stoptext

With the 20150325 ConTeXt, there are .tuc file entries like:

["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {\\IDWidth
}{left}{2\\quad }{\\doboundtext {Yet another list testing text xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx}{\\STWidth }{…}}}",

but with more recent versions, the corresponding entry is:

["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {12.6pt}{left}{2\\quad
}{\\hbox {\\setbox \\scratchbox \\hbox {Yet another list testing
text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx}\\scratchdimen \\dimexpr \\textwidth -12.6pt+1cm\\relax
\\box \\scratchbox }}}",



\unexpanded\def\STWidth{\dimexpr\textwidth-\IDWidth+1cm}

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Re: [NTG-context] Regression with \doboundtext in \writetolist

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Rik Kabel <mailto:cont...@rik.users.panix.com>
11. Oktober 2015 um 18:25
On 2015-10-11 06:11, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 10/11/2015 5:21 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:

The following example works with older versions of ConTeXt, such as the
version from 20150325 in my repository. It fails with TL15 and later,
including the current standalone beta.

% macros=mkvi
\setwidthof {99}\to\IDWidth\relax
\def\STWidth{\dimexpr\textwidth-\IDWidth+1cm}
\definelist[OList]
\setuplist
[OList][criterium=all,alternative=c,pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument]

\starttexdefinition OLister #ID#String
    
{\writetolist[OList]{}{\hbox{\simplealignedbox{\IDWidth}{left}{#ID\quad} 


{\doboundtext{#String}{\STWidth}{…}
\stoptexdefinition

\starttext
\OLister1{Some list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx 
xxx

xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister2{Yet another list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister3{A list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister4{Different list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\subject{List half width}
\startcolumns[n=2]
\placelist[OList]
\stopcolumns
\stoptext

With the 20150325 ConTeXt, there are .tuc file entries like:

["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {\\IDWidth
}{left}{2\\quad }{\\doboundtext {Yet another list testing text xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx}{\\STWidth }{…}}}",

but with more recent versions, the corresponding entry is:

["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {12.6pt}{left}{2\\quad
}{\\hbox {\\setbox \\scratchbox \\hbox {Yet another list testing
text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx 
xxx

xxx xxx}\\scratchdimen \\dimexpr \\textwidth -12.6pt+1cm\\relax
\\box \\scratchbox }}}",



\unexpanded\def\STWidth{\dimexpr\textwidth-\IDWidth+1cm}

Yes, expansion needs to be delayed to get the current dimension when 
the list is placed. My error—thank you for the correction. But the 
regression is not resolved. The .tuc file now contains:


["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {12.6pt}{left}{2\\quad
}{\\hbox {\\setbox \\scratchbox \\hbox {Yet another list testing
text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx}\\scratchdimen \\STWidth \\relax \\box \\scratchbox }}}",

Still no mention of dobounded text is carried into the list.
Is \limitatetext a option for you because unlike \doboundtext the 
command is unexpandable?


\starttext

\doboundtext {Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new 
system ...}{.5\textwidth}{...}


\limitatetext{Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a new 
system ...}{.5\textwidth}{...}


\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Regression with \doboundtext in \writetolist

[Rik]

On 2015-10-11 12:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Is \limitatetext a option for you because unlike \doboundtext the 
command is unexpandable?


\starttext

\doboundtext {Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a 
new system ...}{.5\textwidth}{...}


\limitatetext{Thus, I came to the conclusion that the designer of a 
new system ...}{.5\textwidth}{...}


\stoptext

Is it an option of which I am aware, yes. Do I desire to use it, no. 
Will I use it? Perhaps, if \doboundtext cannot be repaired. The 
resulting page with \limitatetext has large rivers of white on the page.


But more likely I will look for a hack to use \doboundtext to trim the 
text before writing it to the list, even though it loses the flexibility 
of computing the width dynamically.


Can you point to what changed between the 20150325 version and TL15 to 
break this?


--
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Re: [NTG-context] Regression with \doboundtext in \writetolist

[Rik Kabel]

On 2015-10-11 06:11, Hans Hagen wrote:

On 10/11/2015 5:21 AM, Rik Kabel wrote:

The following example works with older versions of ConTeXt, such as the
version from 20150325 in my repository. It fails with TL15 and later,
including the current standalone beta.

% macros=mkvi
\setwidthof {99}\to\IDWidth\relax
\def\STWidth{\dimexpr\textwidth-\IDWidth+1cm}
\definelist[OList]
\setuplist
[OList][criterium=all,alternative=c,pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument]

\starttexdefinition OLister #ID#String
{\writetolist[OList]{}{\hbox{\simplealignedbox{\IDWidth}{left}{#ID\quad}
{\doboundtext{#String}{\STWidth}{…}
\stoptexdefinition

\starttext
\OLister1{Some list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister2{Yet another list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister3{A list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\OLister4{Different list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
\subject{List half width}
\startcolumns[n=2]
\placelist[OList]
\stopcolumns
\stoptext

With the 20150325 ConTeXt, there are .tuc file entries like:

["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {\\IDWidth
}{left}{2\\quad }{\\doboundtext {Yet another list testing text xxx
xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx}{\\STWidth }{…}}}",

but with more recent versions, the corresponding entry is:

["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {12.6pt}{left}{2\\quad
}{\\hbox {\\setbox \\scratchbox \\hbox {Yet another list testing
text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
xxx xxx}\\scratchdimen \\dimexpr \\textwidth -12.6pt+1cm\\relax
\\box \\scratchbox }}}",



\unexpanded\def\STWidth{\dimexpr\textwidth-\IDWidth+1cm}

Yes, expansion needs to be delayed to get the current dimension when the 
list is placed. My error—thank you for the correction. But the 
regression is not resolved. The .tuc file now contains:


   ["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {12.6pt}{left}{2\\quad
   }{\\hbox {\\setbox \\scratchbox \\hbox {Yet another list testing
   text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
   xxx xxx}\\scratchdimen \\STWidth \\relax \\box \\scratchbox }}}",

Still no mention of dobounded text is carried into the list.
--
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Re: [NTG-context] Regression with \doboundtext in \writetolist

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Rik 
11. Oktober 2015 um 21:20
On 2015-10-11 12:56, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Is it an option of which I am aware, yes. Do I desire to use it, no. 
Will I use it? Perhaps, if \doboundtext cannot be repaired. The 
resulting page with \limitatetext has large rivers of white on the page.


But more likely I will look for a hack to use \doboundtext to trim the 
text before writing it to the list, even though it loses the 
flexibility of computing the width dynamically.

Adding \noexpand before \doboundtext should work.

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] Regression with \doboundtext in \writetolist

[Rik Kabel]

The following example works with older versions of ConTeXt, such as the 
version from 20150325 in my repository. It fails with TL15 and later, 
including the current standalone beta.


   % macros=mkvi
   \setwidthof {99}\to\IDWidth\relax
   \def\STWidth{\dimexpr\textwidth-\IDWidth+1cm}
   \definelist[OList]
   \setuplist
   [OList][criterium=all,alternative=c,pagecommand=\gobbleoneargument]

   \starttexdefinition OLister #ID#String
   {\writetolist[OList]{}{\hbox{\simplealignedbox{\IDWidth}{left}{#ID\quad}
   {\doboundtext{#String}{\STWidth}{…}
   \stoptexdefinition

   \starttext
   \OLister1{Some list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
   xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
   \OLister2{Yet another list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
   xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
   \OLister3{A list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
   xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
   \OLister4{Different list testing text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
   xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx}
   \subject{List half width}
   \startcolumns[n=2]
   \placelist[OList]
   \stopcolumns
   \stoptext

With the 20150325 ConTeXt, there are .tuc file entries like:

   ["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {\\IDWidth
   }{left}{2\\quad }{\\doboundtext {Yet another list testing text xxx
   xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
   xxx}{\\STWidth }{…}}}",

but with more recent versions, the corresponding entry is:

   ["second"]="\\hbox {\\simplealignedbox {12.6pt}{left}{2\\quad
   }{\\hbox {\\setbox \\scratchbox \\hbox {Yet another list testing
   text xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx xxx
   xxx xxx}\\scratchdimen \\dimexpr \\textwidth -12.6pt+1cm\\relax
   \\box \\scratchbox }}}",

--
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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist in mkiv

[Jano Kula]

Thank you, Wolfgang, here is the working example for the structure manual ;)

% \writetolist  local table of contents example
\def\ManualSubsection#1{\blank%
{\bf Manual Subsection #1}\par%
\writetolist[subsection]{}{Manual Subsection #1}%
\input tufte\relax}

\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{%
\startchapter[title=Chapter]
\placelist[section][criterium=chapter]
\startsection[title=Section]
\placelist[subsection][criterium=section]
\ManualSubsection{\recurselevel-1}
\ManualSubsection{\recurselevel-2}
\stopsection
\startsection[title=Section]
\placelist[subsection][criterium=section]
\ManualSubsection{\recurselevel-1}
\ManualSubsection{\recurselevel-2}
\stopsection
\stopchapter}
\stoptext




On 12.10.2014 23:06, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 12.10.2014 um 22:57 schrieb Jano Kula jano.k...@gmail.com:


Hello Wolfgang,

On 12.10.2014 21:28, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 12.10.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Jano Kula jano.k...@gmail.com:


Hello to everybody!

Minimal story
-
How to insert local TOC of manually created subsections after the section 
starts?

% start minimal example
\def\ManualSubsection#1{\blank%
{\bf Manual Subsection #1}\par%
\writetolist[subsection]{whatever}{Manual Subsection #1}%
\input tufte\relax}

\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{%
\startchapter[title=Chapter]
\placecontent[chapter,criterium=local] % local TOC OK


You can’t put a keyword (chapter) and a assignment (criterium=local) in the 
same argument
of a setup-command, what you’re looking for is 
\placelist[chapter][criterium=local].

Wolfgang


Thanks, got it: \placelist[section][criterium=local] places the list of 
sections included in the chapter.

Still, how to do the same with subsections manually inserted by 
\writetolist[subsection]{}{Subsection title}?


\placelist[subsection][criterium=section]

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] \writetolist in mkiv

[Jano Kula]

Hello to everybody!

Minimal story
-
How to insert local TOC of manually created subsections after the 
section starts?


% start minimal example
\def\ManualSubsection#1{\blank%
{\bf Manual Subsection #1}\par%
\writetolist[subsection]{whatever}{Manual Subsection #1}%
\input tufte\relax}

\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{%
\startchapter[title=Chapter]
\placecontent[chapter,criterium=local] % local TOC OK
\startsection[title=Section]
Here we would like to see the local list of manual subsections
\placecontent[section,criterium=local] % local TOC not OK
\ManualSubsection{\recurselevel-1}
\ManualSubsection{\recurselevel-2}
\stopsection
\stopchapter}
\stoptext
% stop minimal example

Longer Story

Predefined \startchapter|section inserts titledata in TUC file:
  [titledata]={
   [label]=chapter,
   [title]=Chapter,
  },
  ...
  [titledata]={
   [label]=section,
   [title]=Section,
  },
while \writetolist[subsection]{whatever}{Manual Subsection #1} inserts 
userdata:

  [userdata]={
   [first]=whatever,
   [second]=Manual Subsection \\recurselevel -1,
  },
Is this the reason and can I force to write titledata in the TUC file?

Real case is of course more complicated and also PDF hyperlinks should work.

Thank you in advance,

Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist in mkiv

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 12.10.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Jano Kula jano.k...@gmail.com:

 Hello to everybody!
 
 Minimal story
 -
 How to insert local TOC of manually created subsections after the section 
 starts?
 
 % start minimal example
 \def\ManualSubsection#1{\blank%
 {\bf Manual Subsection #1}\par%
 \writetolist[subsection]{whatever}{Manual Subsection #1}%
 \input tufte\relax}
 
 \starttext
 \dorecurse{3}{%
 \startchapter[title=Chapter]
 \placecontent[chapter,criterium=local] % local TOC OK

You can’t put a keyword (chapter) and a assignment (criterium=local) in the 
same argument
of a setup-command, what you’re looking for is 
\placelist[chapter][criterium=local].

Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist in mkiv

[Jano Kula]

Hello Wolfgang,

On 12.10.2014 21:28, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:


Am 12.10.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Jano Kula jano.k...@gmail.com:


Hello to everybody!

Minimal story
-
How to insert local TOC of manually created subsections after the section 
starts?

% start minimal example
\def\ManualSubsection#1{\blank%
{\bf Manual Subsection #1}\par%
\writetolist[subsection]{whatever}{Manual Subsection #1}%
\input tufte\relax}

\starttext
\dorecurse{3}{%
\startchapter[title=Chapter]
\placecontent[chapter,criterium=local] % local TOC OK


You can’t put a keyword (chapter) and a assignment (criterium=local) in the 
same argument
of a setup-command, what you’re looking for is 
\placelist[chapter][criterium=local].

Wolfgang


Thanks, got it: \placelist[section][criterium=local] places the list of 
sections included in the chapter.


Still, how to do the same with subsections manually inserted by 
\writetolist[subsection]{}{Subsection title}?


Jano

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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist in mkiv

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 12.10.2014 um 22:57 schrieb Jano Kula jano.k...@gmail.com:

 Hello Wolfgang,
 
 On 12.10.2014 21:28, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
 
 Am 12.10.2014 um 20:39 schrieb Jano Kula jano.k...@gmail.com:
 
 Hello to everybody!
 
 Minimal story
 -
 How to insert local TOC of manually created subsections after the section 
 starts?
 
 % start minimal example
 \def\ManualSubsection#1{\blank%
 {\bf Manual Subsection #1}\par%
 \writetolist[subsection]{whatever}{Manual Subsection #1}%
 \input tufte\relax}
 
 \starttext
 \dorecurse{3}{%
 \startchapter[title=Chapter]
 \placecontent[chapter,criterium=local] % local TOC OK
 
 You can’t put a keyword (chapter) and a assignment (criterium=local) in the 
 same argument
 of a setup-command, what you’re looking for is 
 \placelist[chapter][criterium=local].
 
 Wolfgang
 
 Thanks, got it: \placelist[section][criterium=local] places the list of 
 sections included in the chapter.
 
 Still, how to do the same with subsections manually inserted by 
 \writetolist[subsection]{}{Subsection title}?

\placelist[subsection][criterium=section]

Wolfgang
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[NTG-context] writetolist doesn't include sectionnumber in mkiv?

[Sanjoy Mahajan]

With MkIV, I'm having trouble getting \writetolist to include
sectionnumbers.  Or at least, I cannot get the typeset list to include
the sectionnumbers (but maybe writetolist sent in the information).

Here's a minimal example, which is almost exactly the example from the
wiki at http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setuplist.  The only change
is that I've included [order=command] so that the \hrule ends up at the
right place.

\definelist[Reprints][criterium=all]

\starttext
  \section{Sec 1}
  \writetolist[Reprints]{1.}{List entry A}
  \subsection{Subsec 1}
  \writebetweenlist[Reprints]{\hrule}
  \writetolist[Reprints]{2.}{List entry B}
  \completelist[Reprints][order=command]
\stoptext


When typeset (I'm using the 2014.02.14 beta), the completelist looks
like:


List entry A   1

List entry B   1

But the 1. and 2. didn't show up in the left column.

I tried adding \setuplist[Reprints][sectionnumber=yes] but that didn't
help.  Does one need to define an alternative that includes
sectionnumbers?

-Sanjoy
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[NTG-context] \placelist and \writetolist

[Marco Pessotto]

Hello!

I can't understand what I'm doing wrong here:

%

\setuplist[mylist]
  [alternative=c,
width=0mm,
style=\tfx,
criterium=all]

\starttext

\placelist[mylist]

\page[yes]

\input knuth

\writetolist[mylist]{}{Item}

\stoptext
% 

The document compiles fine with version 2011.05.18 22:2, but it fails
miserably with the latest (2011.11.29 23:11)
! Missing number, treated as zero.

system   tex  error on line 11 in file prova.tex: Missing number, 
treated as zero ...

 1 \setuplist[mylist]
 2   [alternative=c,
 3 width=0mm,
 4 style=\tfx,
 5 criterium=all]
 6 
 7 
 8 \starttext
 9 
10 \placelist[mylist]
11   
12 \page[yes]
13 
14 \input knuth
15 
16 \writetolist[mylist]{}{Item}
17 
18 \stoptext

to be read again 
   ,
\doplacestructurelist ...um = #2, number = #3,
   extras = #4, order = #...
\doplacerawlist ...ras }{\listparameter \c!order }
  \stoplistreferences \endgr...
\doplacelist ...ginoflist \doplacerawlist [#1][#2]
  \doendoflist 
\dodoubleemptyonespaced #1#2-#1[{#2}][]
 
to be read again 
   \par 
l.11 
 
? H
A number should have been here; I inserted `0'.
(If you can't figure out why I needed to see a number,
look up `weird error' in the index to The TeXbook.)

Thanks in advance.

-- 
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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist and \writetolist

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 13.12.2011 um 11:41 schrieb Marco Pessotto:

 
 Hello!
 
 I can't understand what I'm doing wrong here:
 
 %
 
 \setuplist[mylist]
  [alternative=c,
width=0mm,
style=\tfx,
criterium=all]
 
 \starttext
 
 \placelist[mylist]
 
 \page[yes]
 
 \input knuth
 
 \writetolist[mylist]{}{Item}
 
 \stoptext
 % 
 
 The document compiles fine with version 2011.05.18 22:2, but it fails
 miserably with the latest (2011.11.29 23:11)

Replace \setuplist with \definelist, before you use a list you should create it.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \placelist and \writetolist

[Marco Pessotto]

Wolfgang Schuster schuster.wolfg...@googlemail.com writes:

 Replace \setuplist with \definelist, before you use a list you should create 
 it.

I knew I was missing something obvious...

Thanks a lot, it works.

Best wishes

-- 
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[NTG-context] \writetolist spurious space in the first line hereafter

[Willi Egger]

Hi all,

I detected that after issuing \writetolist, that there is a unwanted space in 
the first line after this command. This occurs when indenting is on and off. 

Please refer to the attached minimal example.

I am using ConTeXt 2011.02.25 22:03, LuaTEX beta-0.65.0-2010121316

Kind regards

Willi



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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist spurious space in the first line hereafter

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 17.03.2011 um 11:32 schrieb Willi Egger:

 Hi all,
 
 I detected that after issuing \writetolist, that there is a unwanted space in 
 the first line after this command. This occurs when indenting is on and off. 

Add a comment after the last brace, i.e.

  \writetolist[…]{}{…}%

and write the text in the second argument, the first is for the number of the 
header (in your case nothing) and the second for the text.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist spurious space in the first line hereafter

[Willi Egger]

Hello Wolfgang!

thank you so much for this answer. Thanks to regular expressions it is now 
solved throughout the whole book.

Willi
On 17 Mar 2011, at 11:47, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 
 Am 17.03.2011 um 11:32 schrieb Willi Egger:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I detected that after issuing \writetolist, that there is a unwanted space 
 in the first line after this command. This occurs when indenting is on and 
 off. 
 
 Add a comment after the last brace, i.e.
 
  \writetolist[…]{}{…}%
 
 and write the text in the second argument, the first is for the number of the 
 header (in your case nothing) and the second for the text.
 
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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid that \writetolist becomes a page-breaker

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-12-2010 10:32, Marco Pessotto wrote:


\subject{\bf My title!}
\dontleavehmode
\writetolist[myrandompart]{}{It's a test}

works. The question if is this the right thing to do, still remains,
though


it's quite ok as long as you realize that it introduces 'something' in 
the text stream, so


xxx

\dontleavehmode\writetolist[myrandompart]{}{It's a test}

xxx

is actually:


xxx

[something written to a list]

xxx

so when whitespace is setup, in some cases you can get some extra

also, the [something ...] can end up on the current page or the next 
one, depending on the circumstances


in practice it's no real problem as one will do explicit writes inside 
boxes or so


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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid that \writetolist becomes a page-breaker

[Hans Hagen]

On 14-12-2010 9:00, Marco Pessotto wrote:

\doneleavehmode
\writetolist[myrandompart]{It's a test}
\input knuth

i.e. just bind the write to some text

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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid that \writetolist becomes a page-breaker

[Marco Pessotto]

Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl writes:

 On 14-12-2010 9:00, Marco Pessotto wrote:

 \doneleavehmode
 \writetolist[myrandompart]{It's a test}
 \input knuth

 i.e. just bind the write to some text

Thanks for your answer. I'm on my way to the wiki :-)

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[NTG-context] How to avoid that \writetolist becomes a page-breaker

[Marco Pessotto]

Probably due to my abuse of \writetolist, I noticed that inserting
\writetolist right after \subject makes TeX to think that it can break
the page there without problems.

See the following minimal example:

%===cut here=

\definelist[myrandompart]

\starttext

\dorecurse{12}{
\input reich 
}
\subject{\bf Wrong!}
\writetolist[myrandompart]{It's a test}

\input knuth

\page

\dorecurse{12}{
\input reich 
}
\subject{\bf Correct!}
%\writetolist[myrandompart]{It's a test}

\input knuth

%===cut here=

I'm pretty sure the solution is out there.
Some hints would be very welcome.

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Re: [NTG-context] How to avoid that \writetolist becomes a page-breaker

[Marco Pessotto]

Marco Pessotto melmo...@gmail.com writes:

 Probably due to my abuse of \writetolist, I noticed that inserting
 \writetolist right after \subject makes TeX to think that it can break
 the page there without problems.

 See the following minimal example:

 %===cut here=

 \definelist[myrandompart]

 \starttext

 \dorecurse{12}{
 \input reich 
 }
 \subject{\bf Wrong!}
 \writetolist[myrandompart]{It's a test}

 \input knuth

 \page

 \dorecurse{12}{
 \input reich 
 }
 \subject{\bf Correct!}
 %\writetolist[myrandompart]{It's a test}

 \input knuth

 %===cut here=

 I'm pretty sure the solution is out there.
 Some hints would be very welcome.

 Thanks in advance

To answer to my own question, it looks like that

\subject{\bf My title!}
\dontleavehmode
\writetolist[myrandompart]{}{It's a test}

works. The question if is this the right thing to do, still remains,
though

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[NTG-context] writetolist causes mystery blank

[Michael Murphy]

Hi all,

I'm having a but of a problem using writetolist. In principle, I want to 
insert something into the table of contents, but I don't want to disturb 
the flow of the text. Unfortunately, the following code seems to 
generate a blank at the top of the page:


\showframe
\showmakeup

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{}%
\framed{This box has been pushed down}
\stoptext

I've also tried using a section command where the output has been set to 
empty:


\showframe
\showmakeup

\setuphead[section][
  before=,
  after=,
  command=\mydonothing]

\def\mydonothing#1#2{}

\starttext
\section{}%
\framed{This box has been pushed down}
\stoptext

but that also gets me a blank. Incidentally, the same thing happens with 
writebetweenlist, (except that this seems to sometimes push content onto 
a new page for some reason).


Any ideas?

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Re: [NTG-context] writetolist causes mystery blank

[Hans Hagen]

On 8-7-2010 7:33, Michael Murphy wrote:

Hi all,

I'm having a but of a problem using writetolist. In principle, I want to
insert something into the table of contents, but I don't want to disturb
the flow of the text. Unfortunately, the following code seems to
generate a blank at the top of the page:


mkii or mkiv or both?



\showframe
\showmakeup

\starttext
\writetolist[section]{}{}%
\framed{This box has been pushed down}
\stoptext

I've also tried using a section command where the output has been set to
empty:

\showframe
\showmakeup

\setuphead[section][
before=,
after=,
command=\mydonothing]

\def\mydonothing#1#2{}

\starttext
\section{}%
\framed{This box has been pushed down}
\stoptext

but that also gets me a blank. Incidentally, the same thing happens with
writebetweenlist, (except that this seems to sometimes push content onto
a new page for some reason).

Any ideas?




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Re: [NTG-context] writetolist causes mystery blank

[Michael Murphy]

I'm having a but of a problem using writetolist. In principle, I want to
insert something into the table of contents, but I don't want to disturb
the flow of the text. Unfortunately, the following code seems to
generate a blank at the top of the page:


mkii or mkiv or both?


It looks like it only happens on mkiv.

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Re: [NTG-context] \writetolist fails in footnotes when interaction is on

[Hans Hagen]

On 21-6-2010 7:11, Michael Saunders wrote:

\setupinteraction[state=start,color=,contrastcolor=,option=fit]

\definelabel[demonum][text=,before=,after=,way=bytext]

\definelist[demos]
\setuplist[demos][interaction=all,alternative=b,after=]

\starttext
\footnote{\writetolist[demos]{\nextdemonum}{demo title}}
\stoptext



Is there a way around this?


fixed in next beta

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[NTG-context] \writetolist fails in footnotes when interaction is on

[Michael Saunders]

\setupinteraction[state=start,color=,contrastcolor=,option=fit]

\definelabel[demonum][text=,before=,after=,way=bytext]

\definelist[demos]
\setuplist[demos][interaction=all,alternative=b,after=]

\starttext
\footnote{\writetolist[demos]{\nextdemonum}{demo title}}
\stoptext



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[NTG-context] Inserting apropriate blank - indenting by \writetolist

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

Hello all,
When I do:

\writetolist[chapter]{}{Appendicess}

then content is

1.  Section one
2.  Section two
  .  Appendices

stopper is visible - unacceptable for me


when I do:
\writebetweenlist[chapter]{Appendicess}

then content is

1.  Section one
2.  Section two
Appendices

without indentation - - unacceptable for me

Is there way to insert apropriate blank before word Appendicess to 
receive result:

1.  Section one
2.  Section two
 Appendices

My justification:
I am trying bypass this way  section numbering of miscellaneous parts of 
document, because I dont discover way to setting numbering of sections
in appendix part. When I turn on section numbering 
(\setupsectionblock[appendix][number=yes, ...) then result is:

1.  Section one
2.  Section two
...
A. Appendices

When I turn off section numbering 
(\setupsectionblock[appendix][number=no, ...) then result is:


1.  Section one
2.  Section two
  .  Appendices

it is unacceptable for me.

Last acceptable form is:
1.  Section one
2.  Section two
 Appendices

TIA Jaroslav







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Re: [NTG-context] Inserting apropriate blank - indenting by \writetolist

[Hans Hagen]

On 18-5-2010 8:02, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello all,
When I do:

\writetolist[chapter]{}{Appendicess}

then content is

1. Section one
2. Section two
. Appendices

stopper is visible - unacceptable for me


when I do:
\writebetweenlist[chapter]{Appendicess}

then content is

1. Section one
2. Section two
Appendices

without indentation - - unacceptable for me


well, writebetween is just that, you can try

\writebetweenlist[chapter]{\hskip3em Appendicess}

(a more comples solution involves cloning chapter but i have no time for 
explaining that now)


Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Inserting apropriate blank - indenting by \writetolist

[Jaroslav Hajtmar]

Thanx Hans,
is there possibility insert by this way still pagenumber?
for example:
\writebetweenlist[Ikap]{\hskip2em {\bf Přílohy} \hfill\the\pagenumber } 
% get error



Thanx Jaroslav


Dne 18.5.2010 9:49, Hans Hagen napsal(a):

On 18-5-2010 8:02, Jaroslav Hajtmar wrote:

Hello all,
When I do:

\writetolist[chapter]{}{Appendicess}

then content is

1. Section one
2. Section two
. Appendices

stopper is visible - unacceptable for me


when I do:
\writebetweenlist[chapter]{Appendicess}

then content is

1. Section one
2. Section two
Appendices

without indentation - - unacceptable for me


well, writebetween is just that, you can try

\writebetweenlist[chapter]{\hskip3em Appendicess}

(a more comples solution involves cloning chapter but i have no time 
for explaining that now)


Hans

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[NTG-context] \writetolist vs \writebetweenlist

[JOHN CULLETON]

I can use \writebetweenlist to add a line to my TOC.  I have to put the page 
number in manually. Here is the statement:
\writebetweenlist[part]{\nimbus\zy{Part 1 Prerequisite for Success}\hfil 22\rm }

It would seem more sensible to use \writetolist and let Context determine the 
page number. But there are two problems:
1. There is an extra set of braces {} for \writetolist, the purpose of which is 
not stated.
2. A statement similar to the above but with \writetolist[part] and deleting 
the material from \hfil onward fails on interpetation of the formatting macro
\zy. This in turn is a call to the soul.sty package for letterspacing the 
entry.  Here is macro \zy:
\sodef\zy{}{.040em}{.25em plus .5em}{2em plus .1em minus .1em}
It works OK with \writebetweenlist but fails when part of \writetolist etc. 


I have two questions: 
1. What are the extra braces for in the \writetolist command description?
2. Given two sets of braces, where does the text of the par title go?



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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi Hans and Vit,

I've attached pdf and tex made with texexec 8bit.tex using the last beta 
(with cp1250 regime). The version chapterB is what I am using now, chapterA 
version is straightforward but not functional.

From this my ideas from last mail came -- when I am expanding \XMLflush 
exactly and controlled, result is OK (the expansion stops before active 
characters start to expand.

IMHO, the solution on character level is something different (although it works 
:-); yes, I did not study Vit's problems from year before. I never had a 
problems with simple TeX (\chapter{čřžý}), only with XML :-), so for me it 
would be sufficient solve XML level. Of course, if it is stuff of other level, 
it cannot be solved in XML.

Thanks, Martin

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Vit Zyka wrote:
 Martin Kolařík wrote:
   
 Hi Hans,

 I've analyzed the situation using different combinations of regimes and 
 encodings, including switching off handling (\donothandleactivecharacter) 
 and it seems to me, that every text with chars  127, which is fully 
 expanded (as in 8bit.tex), must cause difficulties, because TOC entry read 
 back from TUO is scanned independently and thus spaces are gobbled.
 

 Hi Martin,

 we have discussed this problem a year ago. In that time I solve it just 
 writing '{}' in each title where was needed, like

\chapter{Dobré{} ráno}

 Now I have cooked an automatic solution. It is not optimal (effective) 
 but working. The only needs is to redefine

\def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
\let\dochar\numcharacter

 and to load appropriate encoding file once more. Since it is banned a 
 new macro \reuseencoding was introduce:

 For Hans:
 It would be nice if this feature was enabled in a standard distro. 
 Perhaps you will find some more optimal solution...

 ---
 \unprotected
 \def\doreuseencoding#1%
{\letvalue{\c!file\f!encodingprefix#1}\empty
 \makeshortfilename[\f!encodingprefix#1]%
 \startreadingfile
 \readsysfile\shortfilename
   {\showmessage\m!encodings2{#1}}
   {\showmessage\m!encodings3{#1}}%
 \stopreadingfile}
 \def\reuseencoding[#1]%
{\processcommalist[#1]\doreuseencoding}


 \def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
 \let\dochar\numcharacter

 \reuseencoding[ec]

 \enableregime[latin2]

 \starttext
 \writetolist[chapter]{1}{Dobré ráno}
 \expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Dobré odpoledne}}

 \placecontent
 \stoptext
   
the {} may break liguature building (and maybe kerning) ... taco knows ...

I got a brainwave ... 

\enableregime[latin2]

\starttext

\def\numcharacter#1{\rawcharacter{#1}}%
\let\dochar\numcharacter

\writetolist[chapter]{1}{Dobré ráno}

\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Dobré odpoledne}}

\placelist[chapter][criterium=text]

test

\typefile{test.tuo}

\stoptext

this can be sped up (a bit) with 

% \dostepwiserecurse{0}{255}{1}
%   {\setevalue{rchr:\recurselevel}{\rawcharacter\recurselevel}}

% \def\rawcharacter#1{\getvalue{rchr:#1}}

this means that all chars are round tripped to themselves in output files! 

raw characters are not active and they are therefore equivalent to \char  

it's enough then to put 

\def\numcharacter#1{\rawcharacter{#1}}%
\let\dochar\numcharacter

into cont-new.tex 

(i will discuss this in more detail with taco later) 

Hans 



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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi Hans,

I've analyzed the situation using different combinations of regimes and 
encodings, including switching off handling (\donothandleactivecharacter) and 
it seems to me, that every text with chars  127, which is fully expanded (as 
in 8bit.tex), must cause difficulties, because TOC entry read back from TUO is 
scanned independently and thus spaces are gobbled.

Now I have solved it using not-stable solution -- I am using triple sequence of 
\expandafter to expand \XMLflush after \chapter instead \expanded. The solution 
is not stable as it is ConTeXt implementation dependent.

On the other side, now I do not know, how to partially expand code 
\chaper{\XMLflush{XMLTag}} to obtain sequence of simple unexpanded chars. 
Simple \expandafter is not sufficient, more \expandafters is dirty trick and 
full expansion (\expanded) leads to TOC entry problem. In TeX source this 
cannot occur (or can occur in strange situations :-), in XML source this is 
almost rule.

Maybe it would be useful to have in XML engine macro, which expands XMLdata 
exactly to get read (original) content (like mine triple \expandafter). Maybe 
such macro already exists and I am a real fool :-)

Thank you for help, have a nice day,

Martin

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 Martin Kolařík wrote:
  Aha, here maybe will be the solution :-)
 
  I'am using standalone Win32 distribution from Pragma and I'm 
 running texexec with --translate=cp1252cs. Typescripts use il2, 
 which corresponds to fonts, of course. If I run the code without 
 XML (if I transcribe XML to \chapter etc.) I get toc entry correctly too.
 
  Where should I look for more? What is natural.ctx?

 this is a one-to-one translation vector, and the one standard 
 used by context; forget about all those other mappings, they can 
 be done using regimes; you can use an il2 input regime, and any 
 (resonable) font encoding, 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi Hans,

I've analyzed the situation using different combinations of regimes and 
encodings, including switching off handling (\donothandleactivecharacter) and 
it seems to me, that every text with chars  127, which is fully expanded (as 
in 8bit.tex), must cause difficulties, because TOC entry read back from TUO is 
scanned independently and thus spaces are gobbled.

Now I have solved it using not-stable solution -- I am using triple sequence of 
\expandafter to expand \XMLflush after \chapter instead \expanded. The solution 
is not stable as it is ConTeXt implementation dependent.

On the other side, now I do not know, how to partially expand code 
\chaper{\XMLflush{XMLTag}} to obtain sequence of simple unexpanded chars. 
Simple \expandafter is not sufficient, more \expandafters is dirty trick and 
full expansion (\expanded) leads to TOC entry problem. In TeX source this 
cannot occur (or can occur in strange situations :-), in XML source this is 
almost rule.

Maybe it would be useful to have in XML engine macro, which expands XMLdata 
exactly to get read (original) content (like mine triple \expandafter). Maybe 
such macro already exists and I am a real fool :-)

Thank you for help, have a nice day,

Martin

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 Martin Kolařík wrote:
  Aha, here maybe will be the solution :-)
 
  I'am using standalone Win32 distribution from Pragma and I'm 
 running texexec with --translate=cp1252cs. Typescripts use il2, 
 which corresponds to fonts, of course. If I run the code without 
 XML (if I transcribe XML to \chapter etc.) I get toc entry correctly too.
 
  Where should I look for more? What is natural.ctx?

 this is a one-to-one translation vector, and the one standard 
 used by context; forget about all those other mappings, they can 
 be done using regimes; you can use an il2 input regime, and any 
 (resonable) font encoding, 
 
 Hans 
 
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Hi Hans,

 I've analyzed the situation using different combinations of regimes and 
 encodings, including switching off handling (\donothandleactivecharacter) and 
 it seems to me, that every text with chars  127, which is fully expanded (as 
 in 8bit.tex), must cause difficulties, because TOC entry read back from TUO 
 is scanned independently and thus spaces are gobbled.

 Now I have solved it using not-stable solution -- I am using triple sequence 
 of \expandafter to expand \XMLflush after \chapter instead \expanded. The 
 solution is not stable as it is ConTeXt implementation dependent.

 On the other side, now I do not know, how to partially expand code 
 \chaper{\XMLflush{XMLTag}} to obtain sequence of simple unexpanded chars. 
 Simple \expandafter is not sufficient, more \expandafters is dirty trick and 
 full expansion (\expanded) leads to TOC entry problem. In TeX source this 
 cannot occur (or can occur in strange situations :-), in XML source this is 
 almost rule.

 Maybe it would be useful to have in XML engine macro, which expands XMLdata 
 exactly to get read (original) content (like mine triple \expandafter). Maybe 
 such macro already exists and I am a real fool :-)

 Thank you for help, have a nice day,
   
some commands indeed have keys like: 

expansion=no|yes|utf|xml|command 

and alike 

the problem is that when one does something \expanded{...} in a style, it 
bypasses this mechanism 

can you make me a (as small as possible) example of a doc? i can then test it 
here with my version 

Hans 



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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Vit Zyka]

Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Hi Hans,
 
 I've analyzed the situation using different combinations of regimes and 
 encodings, including switching off handling (\donothandleactivecharacter) and 
 it seems to me, that every text with chars  127, which is fully expanded (as 
 in 8bit.tex), must cause difficulties, because TOC entry read back from TUO 
 is scanned independently and thus spaces are gobbled.

Hi Martin,

we have discussed this problem a year ago. In that time I solve it just 
writing '{}' in each title where was needed, like

   \chapter{Dobré{} ráno}

Now I have cooked an automatic solution. It is not optimal (effective) 
but working. The only needs is to redefine

   \def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
   \let\dochar\numcharacter

and to load appropriate encoding file once more. Since it is banned a 
new macro \reuseencoding was introduce:

For Hans:
It would be nice if this feature was enabled in a standard distro. 
Perhaps you will find some more optimal solution...

---
\unprotected
\def\doreuseencoding#1%
   {\letvalue{\c!file\f!encodingprefix#1}\empty
\makeshortfilename[\f!encodingprefix#1]%
\startreadingfile
\readsysfile\shortfilename
  {\showmessage\m!encodings2{#1}}
  {\showmessage\m!encodings3{#1}}%
\stopreadingfile}
\def\reuseencoding[#1]%
   {\processcommalist[#1]\doreuseencoding}


\def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
\let\dochar\numcharacter

\reuseencoding[ec]

\enableregime[latin2]

\starttext
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{Dobré ráno}
\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Dobré odpoledne}}

\placecontent
\stoptext
---

 
 Now I have solved it using not-stable solution -- I am using triple sequence 
 of \expandafter to expand \XMLflush after \chapter instead \expanded. The 
 solution is not stable as it is ConTeXt implementation dependent.
 
 On the other side, now I do not know, how to partially expand code 
 \chaper{\XMLflush{XMLTag}} to obtain sequence of simple unexpanded chars. 
 Simple \expandafter is not sufficient, more \expandafters is dirty trick and 
 full expansion (\expanded) leads to TOC entry problem. In TeX source this 
 cannot occur (or can occur in strange situations :-), in XML source this is 
 almost rule.
 
 Maybe it would be useful to have in XML engine macro, which expands XMLdata 
 exactly to get read (original) content (like mine triple \expandafter). Maybe 
 such macro already exists and I am a real fool :-)
 
 Thank you for help, have a nice day,
 
 Martin
 
 
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Martin Kolařík wrote:

Aha, here maybe will be the solution :-)

I'am using standalone Win32 distribution from Pragma and I'm 

running texexec with --translate=cp1252cs. Typescripts use il2, 
which corresponds to fonts, of course. If I run the code without 
XML (if I transcribe XML to \chapter etc.) I get toc entry correctly too.

Where should I look for more? What is natural.ctx?
  

this is a one-to-one translation vector, and the one standard 
used by context; forget about all those other mappings, they can 
be done using regimes; you can use an il2 input regime, and any 
(resonable) font encoding, 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Hans Hagen]

Vit Zyka wrote:
 Martin Kolařík wrote:
   
 Hi Hans,

 I've analyzed the situation using different combinations of regimes and 
 encodings, including switching off handling (\donothandleactivecharacter) 
 and it seems to me, that every text with chars  127, which is fully 
 expanded (as in 8bit.tex), must cause difficulties, because TOC entry read 
 back from TUO is scanned independently and thus spaces are gobbled.
 

 Hi Martin,

 we have discussed this problem a year ago. In that time I solve it just 
 writing '{}' in each title where was needed, like

\chapter{Dobré{} ráno}

 Now I have cooked an automatic solution. It is not optimal (effective) 
 but working. The only needs is to redefine

\def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
\let\dochar\numcharacter

 and to load appropriate encoding file once more. Since it is banned a 
 new macro \reuseencoding was introduce:

 For Hans:
 It would be nice if this feature was enabled in a standard distro. 
 Perhaps you will find some more optimal solution...

 ---
 \unprotected
 \def\doreuseencoding#1%
{\letvalue{\c!file\f!encodingprefix#1}\empty
 \makeshortfilename[\f!encodingprefix#1]%
 \startreadingfile
 \readsysfile\shortfilename
   {\showmessage\m!encodings2{#1}}
   {\showmessage\m!encodings3{#1}}%
 \stopreadingfile}
 \def\reuseencoding[#1]%
{\processcommalist[#1]\doreuseencoding}


 \def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
 \let\dochar\numcharacter

 \reuseencoding[ec]

 \enableregime[latin2]

 \starttext
 \writetolist[chapter]{1}{Dobré ráno}
 \expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Dobré odpoledne}}

 \placecontent
 \stoptext
   
the {} may break liguature building (and maybe kerning) ... taco knows ...

I got a brainwave ... 

\enableregime[latin2]

\starttext

\def\numcharacter#1{\rawcharacter{#1}}%
\let\dochar\numcharacter

\writetolist[chapter]{1}{Dobré ráno}

\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Dobré odpoledne}}

\placelist[chapter][criterium=text]

test

\typefile{test.tuo}

\stoptext

this can be sped up (a bit) with 

% \dostepwiserecurse{0}{255}{1}
%   {\setevalue{rchr:\recurselevel}{\rawcharacter\recurselevel}}

% \def\rawcharacter#1{\getvalue{rchr:#1}}

this means that all chars are round tripped to themselves in output files! 

raw characters are not active and they are therefore equivalent to \char  

it's enough then to put 

\def\numcharacter#1{\rawcharacter{#1}}%
\let\dochar\numcharacter

into cont-new.tex 

(i will discuss this in more detail with taco later) 

Hans 



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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:
 Vit Zyka wrote:
 
Martin Kolařík wrote:
  

Hi Hans,

I've analyzed the situation using different combinations of regimes and 
encodings, including switching off handling (\donothandleactivecharacter) 
and it seems to me, that every text with chars  127, which is fully 
expanded (as in 8bit.tex), must cause difficulties, because TOC entry read 
back from TUO is scanned independently and thus spaces are gobbled.


Hi Martin,

we have discussed this problem a year ago. In that time I solve it just 
writing '{}' in each title where was needed, like

   \chapter{Dobré{} ráno}

Now I have cooked an automatic solution. It is not optimal (effective) 
but working. The only needs is to redefine

   \def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
   \let\dochar\numcharacter

and to load appropriate encoding file once more. Since it is banned a 
new macro \reuseencoding was introduce:

For Hans:
It would be nice if this feature was enabled in a standard distro. 
Perhaps you will find some more optimal solution...

---
\unprotected
\def\doreuseencoding#1%
   {\letvalue{\c!file\f!encodingprefix#1}\empty
\makeshortfilename[\f!encodingprefix#1]%
\startreadingfile
\readsysfile\shortfilename
  {\showmessage\m!encodings2{#1}}
  {\showmessage\m!encodings3{#1}}%
\stopreadingfile}
\def\reuseencoding[#1]%
   {\processcommalist[#1]\doreuseencoding}


\def\numcharacter#1{\char#1{}}
\let\dochar\numcharacter

\reuseencoding[ec]

\enableregime[latin2]

\starttext
\writetolist[chapter]{1}{Dobré ráno}
\expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Dobré odpoledne}}

\placecontent
\stoptext
  
 
 the {} may break liguature building (and maybe kerning) ... taco knows ...

Hmmm, that's right.

 I got a brainwave ... 
 
 \enableregime[latin2]
 
 \starttext
 
 \def\numcharacter#1{\rawcharacter{#1}}%
 \let\dochar\numcharacter

So there is no need to have only 7-bit chars in tui/tuo etc.? All right, 
I think this will be better also for sorting. Sounds promissing.

 \writetolist[chapter]{1}{Dobré ráno}
 
 \expanded{\writetolist[chapter]{2}{Dobré odpoledne}}
 
 \placelist[chapter][criterium=text]
 
 test
 
 \typefile{test.tuo}
 
 \stoptext
 
 this can be sped up (a bit) with 
 
 % \dostepwiserecurse{0}{255}{1}
 %   {\setevalue{rchr:\recurselevel}{\rawcharacter\recurselevel}}
 
 % \def\rawcharacter#1{\getvalue{rchr:#1}}
 
 this means that all chars are round tripped to themselves in output files! 
 
 raw characters are not active and they are therefore equivalent to \char  
 
 it's enough then to put 
 
 \def\numcharacter#1{\rawcharacter{#1}}%
 \let\dochar\numcharacter
 
 into cont-new.tex 
 
 (i will discuss this in more detail with taco later) 

All right, thanks Hans,
Vit

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Hans Hagen]

Vit Zyka wrote:

 So there is no need to have only 7-bit chars in tui/tuo etc.? All right, 
 I think this will be better also for sorting. Sounds promissing.
   
if the regime is the same for a whole document ... indeed

Hans

 

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi Hans,

the test file is attached,

thanks,

Martin

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  Hi Hans,
 
  isn't there some news with the stuff?
 
 small test file needed to refresh my memory

 Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Hi Hans,

 the test file is attached,
   
what input encoding is used here? 

i get the same chapter title as toc entry 

is your tex configured for 8 bit (natural.ctx) 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Aha, here maybe will be the solution :-)

I'am using standalone Win32 distribution from Pragma and I'm running texexec 
with --translate=cp1252cs. Typescripts use il2, which corresponds to fonts, of 
course. If I run the code without XML (if I transcribe XML to \chapter etc.) I 
get toc entry correctly too.

Where should I look for more? What is natural.ctx?

Thank you,

Martin


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Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Hi Hans,

 the test file is attached,
   
what input encoding is used here? 

i get the same chapter title as toc entry 

is your tex configured for 8 bit (natural.ctx) 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Aha, here maybe will be the solution :-)

 I'am using standalone Win32 distribution from Pragma and I'm running texexec 
 with --translate=cp1252cs. Typescripts use il2, which corresponds to fonts, 
 of course. If I run the code without XML (if I transcribe XML to \chapter 
 etc.) I get toc entry correctly too.

 Where should I look for more? What is natural.ctx?
   
this is a one-to-one translation vector, and the one standard used by context; 
forget about all those other mappings, they can be done using regimes; you can 
use an il2 input regime, and any (resonable) font encoding, 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Vit Zyka]

Hans Hagen wrote:
 Martin Kolařík wrote:
 
Aha, here maybe will be the solution :-)

I'am using standalone Win32 distribution from Pragma and I'm running texexec 
with --translate=cp1252cs. Typescripts use il2, which corresponds to fonts, 
of course. If I run the code without XML (if I transcribe XML to \chapter 
etc.) I get toc entry correctly too.

Where should I look for more? What is natural.ctx?
  
 
 this is a one-to-one translation vector, and the one standard used by 
 context; forget about all those other mappings, they can be done using 
 regimes; you can use an il2 input regime, and any (resonable) font encoding, 
 
  Hans

specifically for you:

\mainlanguage[cz]
\enableregime[windows] % or \enableregime[latin2] for il2

is enough for Latin Modern and Czech.

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Thanks Vit, your solution perfectly works (I tried it :-); but not for me -- in 
my case (and in another mine cases too) I use XML code, which remaps some 
pieces to \chapter. And during the expansion accented characters are replaced 
with \char xxx, this is written to tui/tuo file and read back without spaces 
-- the spaces are gobbled by TeX's number syntactic rule...

But, Hans, when I added \mainlanguage[cz] before \enableregime[windows] in 
8bit.tex and run texexec with --translate=cp1250cs, I got:

! Illegal parameter number in definition of \@@expanded.
to be read again
   \crcr
\oalign [EMAIL PROTECTED] \lineskip .25ex\ialign {##\crcr
  #1\crcr }}
\encircled ...\tx #1}}\hfil \crcr \mathhexbox 20D}
  }
\XML:dat:title -Ä
  luŁouŔcÝ koný ˙pÝ
\expanded ...\long \xdef \@@expanded {\noexpand #1
  }\@@expanded
l.3 /chapter

Thank you,

Martin

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Hans Hagen wrote:
 Martin Kolařík wrote:
 
Aha, here maybe will be the solution :-)

I'am using standalone Win32 distribution from Pragma and I'm running texexec 
with --translate=cp1252cs. Typescripts use il2, which corresponds to fonts, 
of course. If I run the code without XML (if I transcribe XML to \chapter 
etc.) I get toc entry correctly too.

Where should I look for more? What is natural.ctx?
  
 
 this is a one-to-one translation vector, and the one standard used by 
 context; forget about all those other mappings, they can be done using 
 regimes; you can use an il2 input regime, and any (resonable) font encoding, 
 
  Hans

specifically for you:

\mainlanguage[cz]
\enableregime[windows] % or \enableregime[latin2] for il2

is enough for Latin Modern and Czech.

Vit

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 4/3/06, Martin Kolařík wrote:

 which is not good. And I am not able, when not using cp1250.tcx, recode 
 win1250 (default for win) to latin2. There I am able to write regime for 
 myself (cp1250), but I suppose, that whenever characters will not expand to 
 \char XXX form, cp1250.tcx still will be working and usable.

Hans, I would guess that more than 50% of Slavic Windows users (ie.
Slovenian, Croatian, Chech, Slovak, ...) use the cp1250 encoding
(including me). Would it be possible to add at least this file
http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/regi-cp1250.tex to the
default ConTeXt distribution? (with synonyms windows-1250 and
cp1250).

This has probably nothing to do with the problem described here, but I
believe that many users would appreciate to have that encoding
(called regime in ConTeXt) available.

 when I added \mainlanguage[cz] before \enableregime[windows] in 8bit.tex and 
 run
 texexec with --translate=cp1250cs, I got:

\enableregime[windows] is cp1252 (Western European Windows) not cp1250
(Central European Windows), --translate=cp1250cs is cp1250 (supposing
that you don't use \enableregime[windows], but the default one):
everything will be mixed up if you use both simultaneously.

If you download the file mentioned above (place it into the current
directory or somewhere in the TeX tree and refresh the filename
database) or if Hans adds it to the distribution, you can use
\input regi-cp1250
\enableregime[cp1250]

This probably won't solve your problem with missing spaces (didn't try
it), but you'll have the proper encoding.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Thanks Mojca, I downloaded your regime file; now I will not need write it
myself :-)

Martin

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On 4/3/06, Martin Kolařík wrote:

 which is not good. And I am not able, when not using cp1250.tcx, recode
win1250 (default for win) to latin2. There I am able to write regime for
myself (cp1250), but I suppose, that whenever characters will not expand to
\char XXX form, cp1250.tcx still will be working and usable.

Hans, I would guess that more than 50% of Slavic Windows users (ie.
Slovenian, Croatian, Chech, Slovak, ...) use the cp1250 encoding
(including me). Would it be possible to add at least this file
http://pub.mojca.org/tex/enco/contextbase/regi-cp1250.tex to the
default ConTeXt distribution? (with synonyms windows-1250 and
cp1250).

This has probably nothing to do with the problem described here, but I
believe that many users would appreciate to have that encoding
(called regime in ConTeXt) available.

 when I added \mainlanguage[cz] before \enableregime[windows] in 8bit.tex
and run
 texexec with --translate=cp1250cs, I got:

\enableregime[windows] is cp1252 (Western European Windows) not cp1250
(Central European Windows), --translate=cp1250cs is cp1250 (supposing
that you don't use \enableregime[windows], but the default one):
everything will be mixed up if you use both simultaneously.

If you download the file mentioned above (place it into the current
directory or somewhere in the TeX tree and refresh the filename
database) or if Hans adds it to the distribution, you can use
\input regi-cp1250
\enableregime[cp1250]

This probably won't solve your problem with missing spaces (didn't try
it), but you'll have the proper encoding.

Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Mojca Miklavec]

On 2/28/06, Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have problem with chars encoding now; I have updated ConTeXt sometimes in
 January; before the time I was using old (year) version. In this
 prehistorical version the problem was not present.

 What is the stuff? The following code generates content with titles without
 spaces -- accented characters are replaced with \char XXX variant, so during
 reading TUI line TeX gobbles a space after XXX as a part of number syntax
 rule.

 Can I do something? With encoding? With XML?

Encoding has nothing to do with it. I don't really understand the
\[un]expanded commands in TeX, but this part could theoretically be
problematic:
 {\expanded
{\section{\XMLflush{title

Consider the following (encoding-independent) minimal example, just in
case that this can help any of the gurus to understand the problem:

\defineXMLenvironment
 [chapter]
 {\defineXMLsave[title]}
 {\expanded
{\section{\XMLflush{title

\starttext
\startbuffer
chapter
 title$a+b$/title
/chapter
\stopbuffer

\processXMLbuffer
\placecontent[criterium=all]
\stoptext

The entry in TOC is different from the title (one is in math mode and
the other one writen with dollars - literally).

Mojca


 Thank you very much, have a nice day, Martin

 Code:

 \defineXMLenvironment
   [chapter]
   {\defineXMLsave[title]}
   {\expanded
  {\chapter\XMLflush{title}}}

 \starttext

 \startbuffer

 chapter
   titleAhojá hojč kuna/title
 /chapter

 \stopbuffer

 \processXMLbuffer

 \completecontent[criterium=all]

 \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

OK, expansion is not encoding, but expansion in this place here is not a
problem (I suppose). The section head is good, but the TOC entry not. So the
inner expansion (or conversion or detokenization or so) around writetolist
is probably affected by something, what now I cannot handle.

And what is strange -- Hans did not reproduce the behaviour (as he wrote),
so I am asking a trying to find the problem on my side (or lucky thougth
:-)...

Thank for your ideas and help,

Martin

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 4:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...


On 2/28/06, Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have problem with chars encoding now; I have updated ConTeXt sometimes
in
 January; before the time I was using old (year) version. In this
 prehistorical version the problem was not present.

 What is the stuff? The following code generates content with titles
without
 spaces -- accented characters are replaced with \char XXX variant, so
during
 reading TUI line TeX gobbles a space after XXX as a part of number
syntax
 rule.

 Can I do something? With encoding? With XML?

Encoding has nothing to do with it. I don't really understand the
\[un]expanded commands in TeX, but this part could theoretically be
problematic:
 {\expanded
{\section{\XMLflush{title

Consider the following (encoding-independent) minimal example, just in
case that this can help any of the gurus to understand the problem:

\defineXMLenvironment
 [chapter]
 {\defineXMLsave[title]}
 {\expanded
{\section{\XMLflush{title

\starttext
\startbuffer
chapter
 title$a+b$/title
/chapter
\stopbuffer

\processXMLbuffer
\placecontent[criterium=all]
\stoptext

The entry in TOC is different from the title (one is in math mode and
the other one writen with dollars - literally).

Mojca


 Thank you very much, have a nice day, Martin

 Code:

 \defineXMLenvironment
   [chapter]
   {\defineXMLsave[title]}
   {\expanded
  {\chapter\XMLflush{title}}}

 \starttext

 \startbuffer

 chapter
   titleAhojá hojč kuna/title
 /chapter

 \stopbuffer

 \processXMLbuffer

 \completecontent[criterium=all]

 \stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi Hans,

isn't there some news with the stuff?

Thank you and have a nice day,

Martin

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:33 AM
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Here the file with 8bit chars is,

Martin

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Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 10:16 AM
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� wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have problem with chars encoding now; I have updated ConTeXt sometimes in
 January; before the time I was using old (year) version. In this
 prehistorical version the problem was not present.

 What is the stuff? The following code generates content with titles without
 spaces -- accented characters are replaced with \char XXX variant, so during
 reading TUI line TeX gobbles a space after XXX as a part of number syntax
 rule.
   
can you send me a zip with the test file so that the 8 bit chars are ok? 

Hans  


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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Hans Hagen]

Martin Kolařík wrote:
 Hi Hans,

 isn't there some news with the stuff?
   
small test file needed to refresh my memory 

Hans 

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Re: [NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Hans Hagen]

� wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have problem with chars encoding now; I have updated ConTeXt sometimes in
 January; before the time I was using old (year) version. In this
 prehistorical version the problem was not present.

 What is the stuff? The following code generates content with titles without
 spaces -- accented characters are replaced with \char XXX variant, so during
 reading TUI line TeX gobbles a space after XXX as a part of number syntax
 rule.
   
can you send me a zip with the test file so that the 8 bit chars are ok? 

Hans  


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  Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
 tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
 | www.pragma-pod.nl
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[NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi all,

I have problem with chars encoding now; I have updated ConTeXt sometimes in
January; before the time I was using old (year) version. In this
prehistorical version the problem was not present.

What is the stuff? The following code generates content with titles without
spaces -- accented characters are replaced with \char XXX variant, so during
reading TUI line TeX gobbles a space after XXX as a part of number syntax
rule.

Can I do something? With encoding? With XML?

Thank you very much, have a nice day, Martin

Code:

\defineXMLenvironment
  [chapter]
  {\defineXMLsave[title]}
  {\expanded
 {\chapter\XMLflush{title}}}

\starttext

\startbuffer

chapter
  titleAhojá hojč kuna/title
/chapter

\stopbuffer

\processXMLbuffer

\completecontent[criterium=all]

\stoptext

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[NTG-context] Problem with encoding, XML and writetolist...

[Martin Kolařík]

Hi Hans,

I have problem with chars encoding now; I have updated ConTeXt sometimes in
January; before the time I was using old (year) version. In this
prehistorical version the problem was not present.

What is the stuff? The following code generates content with titles without
spaces -- accented characters are replaced with \char XXX variant, so during
reading TUI line TeX gobbles a space after XXX as a part of number syntax
rule.

Can I do something? With encoding? With XML?

Thank you very much, have a nice day, Martin

Code:

\defineXMLenvironment
  [chapter]
  {\defineXMLsave[title]}
  {\expanded
 {\chapter\XMLflush{title}}}

\starttext

\startbuffer

chapter
  titleAhojá hojč kuna/title
/chapter

\stopbuffer

\processXMLbuffer

\completecontent[criterium=all]

\stoptext

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