Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Robert and all, I'm now ready to help build the new website. :-) As a publisher, I tried editing page in the main/community section and can confirm it worked. But when I was going to add a new page, I couldn't find a button or a panel for managing the add/remove operations. I have little experience of Joomla but it seems that I could add new pages in administrator mode, which is not available for publishers. So I'm just interested in that how could a publisher get permissions of adding/removing a page without entering the admin page? Or did I miss something important when logging in and browsing the pages. Any help and advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Wang Rui ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Wan Rui, 2012/5/25 Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com Hi Robert and all, I'm now ready to help build the new website. :-) As a publisher, I tried editing page in the main/community section and can confirm it worked. But when I was going to add a new page, I couldn't find a button or a panel for managing the add/remove operations. I have little experience of Joomla but it seems that I could add new pages in administrator mode, which is not available for publishers. So I'm just interested in that how could a publisher get permissions of adding/removing a page without entering the admin page? Or did I miss something important when logging in and browsing the pages. You are right, in the case of list layout you should not have problems ,a icon of new document is available (for example : http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/linux). But for blog layout we have to enable it using a menu key or installing a module to manage articles from the front-end. I'll do it ASAP. Is not active the admin backend for publishers? Cheers Any help and advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Wang Rui ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Wang Rui, I answer myself, admin Backend is not active for publishers. But I see you have admin rights, so you should be able to access. Anyway we should add a menu item (for authors and publishers) in order to submit articles from the front end. I will do it as soon as possible. Cheers. 2012/5/25 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Wan Rui, 2012/5/25 Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com Hi Robert and all, I'm now ready to help build the new website. :-) As a publisher, I tried editing page in the main/community section and can confirm it worked. But when I was going to add a new page, I couldn't find a button or a panel for managing the add/remove operations. I have little experience of Joomla but it seems that I could add new pages in administrator mode, which is not available for publishers. So I'm just interested in that how could a publisher get permissions of adding/removing a page without entering the admin page? Or did I miss something important when logging in and browsing the pages. You are right, in the case of list layout you should not have problems ,a icon of new document is available (for example : http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/linux). But for blog layout we have to enable it using a menu key or installing a module to manage articles from the front-end. I'll do it ASAP. Is not active the admin backend for publishers? Cheers Any help and advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Wang Rui ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Wang et al, Now, once you are logged in, you should see a new item in the login menu in the front end (if you have at least author permissions) called 'submit article'. It Is very important to select the adequate category, this way it will be shown 'in place'. Cheers. 2012/5/25 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Wang Rui, I answer myself, admin Backend is not active for publishers. But I see you have admin rights, so you should be able to access. Anyway we should add a menu item (for authors and publishers) in order to submit articles from the front end. I will do it as soon as possible. Cheers. 2012/5/25 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Wan Rui, 2012/5/25 Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com Hi Robert and all, I'm now ready to help build the new website. :-) As a publisher, I tried editing page in the main/community section and can confirm it worked. But when I was going to add a new page, I couldn't find a button or a panel for managing the add/remove operations. I have little experience of Joomla but it seems that I could add new pages in administrator mode, which is not available for publishers. So I'm just interested in that how could a publisher get permissions of adding/removing a page without entering the admin page? Or did I miss something important when logging in and browsing the pages. You are right, in the case of list layout you should not have problems ,a icon of new document is available (for example : http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/linux). But for blog layout we have to enable it using a menu key or installing a module to manage articles from the front-end. I'll do it ASAP. Is not active the admin backend for publishers? Cheers Any help and advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Wang Rui ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Jordi, That's great! Now I can see it. Thanks, Wang Rui 2012/5/26 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Wang et al, Now, once you are logged in, you should see a new item in the login menu in the front end (if you have at least author permissions) called 'submit article'. It Is very important to select the adequate category, this way it will be shown 'in place'. Cheers. 2012/5/25 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Wang Rui, I answer myself, admin Backend is not active for publishers. But I see you have admin rights, so you should be able to access. Anyway we should add a menu item (for authors and publishers) in order to submit articles from the front end. I will do it as soon as possible. Cheers. 2012/5/25 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Wan Rui, 2012/5/25 Wang Rui wangra...@gmail.com Hi Robert and all, I'm now ready to help build the new website. :-) As a publisher, I tried editing page in the main/community section and can confirm it worked. But when I was going to add a new page, I couldn't find a button or a panel for managing the add/remove operations. I have little experience of Joomla but it seems that I could add new pages in administrator mode, which is not available for publishers. So I'm just interested in that how could a publisher get permissions of adding/removing a page without entering the admin page? Or did I miss something important when logging in and browsing the pages. You are right, in the case of list layout you should not have problems ,a icon of new document is available (for example : http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/linux). But for blog layout we have to enable it using a menu key or installing a module to manage articles from the front-end. I'll do it ASAP. Is not active the admin backend for publishers? Cheers Any help and advice would be appreciated. Thanks, Wang Rui ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Thomas, I have been a bit busy these days, but hopefully this weekend I will be able to take up again the web tasks. I will start to write the author's guide ASAP, we can modify it later if necessary. Cheers. 2012/5/17 Thomas Hogarth thomas.hoga...@gmail.com Hi Again I've started work on the Windows/Visual Studio side of the platform specifics section. http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/windows/37-visual-studio Just wondered if you'd take a look at the few pages I've done to confirm style etc before I move on. Also I think the main Visual Studio page needs a bit of refactoring, but the pages it links too seem good. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47748#47748 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi I had meant to ask about code highlighting/formatting. Thanks for the heads up. An authors guide would be good let me know when you've got one. I'm already wondering about heading formats, link colours etc. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47746#47746 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Again I've started work on the Windows/Visual Studio side of the platform specifics section. http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/windows/37-visual-studio Just wondered if you'd take a look at the few pages I've done to confirm style etc before I move on. Also I think the main Visual Studio page needs a bit of refactoring, but the pages it links too seem good. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47748#47748 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Tom, I have added some div class=code /code in your iOS article to get the colored quads and respect the style. It's something I have to write in the author's guide. Thanks for the help! :) Cheers. 2012/5/15 Thomas Hogarth thomas.hoga...@gmail.com Hi Guys I have had a chance to finish the IOS CMake doc http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/ios/23-configuring-cmake-for-ios I went along with it as I wrote it (Robert I've submitted a small change to CMakeLists.txt to make the tutorial simpler). I'll make a start moving the other platform specific sections to the new site and update the migration tasks as I go. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47701#47701 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Jordi, On 9 May 2012 18:34, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: I missed to say that I tried to respect the authory of the articles migrated from the old webpage, or for example de Debbuging tips (from Paul Martz). But there are some cases where I didnt know who was the author. I've been out of the loop for 9 days thanks to me trip, hows things progressing? I'll busy with client work and generally catching up this week, but next week I plan to put time aside for diving back into the new website work. On my trip I read a few more chapters of Joomla 2.5 Beginner's Guide, didn't read too many as it's pretty dull reading when you don't have a computer in front of you to experiment with. I am getting a better grasp of what and how we can do things. One thing I do wonder about is multi-lingual support, Joomla is capable of it, and as a community I would guess we should be capable for doing translation work, at least for all the main pages that users will touch upon. Thoughts everyone? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Robert, I hope you enjoy your trip, even though it was a business trip. It seems you missed my previous post, but it's normal, this thread is getting huge! Briefly, as you suggested I have gone for downloads and support pages. These sections are almost finished. There are still somethings to do: Downloads Stable and developer releases sections: The binaries are still in the old server @Robert: do you want me to do a downloads hierarchy folder (somethink like in the old server) by FTP and upload latest stable and developer versions? I think we need to migrate older versions too, and make a single article for all the older releases (at least for stable releases). In the case of dowloads I have a doubt with Tools section (suggestion of J-S), I feel this category may overlap the category community projects, thoughts? Support Some links on the FAQ section are not up to date, we need to migrate the Documentation-knowledge base before. I want to know your opinion about how to address profesional support, Is it worth to have a single article with all the professionals/companies, or to have an article for each professional/company and show them in a blog layout/ list layout? I think it would be better if each professional/company edit its own page. About multilingual support I am not fully convinced. It should be clear that support in mailing lists, forum, etc. will be only in english. I'm not very proud about my 'spanglish' but I still prefer to learn english while working with OSG :). Anyway if we get translators from the community I don't have any objection. Once I have a pilot page for every section I should write an author guide in order to respect the styles. I am trying to get migration task section up-to-date, so if you want to tackle any item with priority high it will be on the top of my webtasks to do list. Cheers. 2012/5/14 Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, On 9 May 2012 18:34, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: I missed to say that I tried to respect the authory of the articles migrated from the old webpage, or for example de Debbuging tips (from Paul Martz). But there are some cases where I didnt know who was the author. I've been out of the loop for 9 days thanks to me trip, hows things progressing? I'll busy with client work and generally catching up this week, but next week I plan to put time aside for diving back into the new website work. On my trip I read a few more chapters of Joomla 2.5 Beginner's Guide, didn't read too many as it's pretty dull reading when you don't have a computer in front of you to experiment with. I am getting a better grasp of what and how we can do things. One thing I do wonder about is multi-lingual support, Joomla is capable of it, and as a community I would guess we should be capable for doing translation work, at least for all the main pages that users will touch upon. Thoughts everyone? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Guys I have had a chance to finish the IOS CMake doc http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/ios/23-configuring-cmake-for-ios I went along with it as I wrote it (Robert I've submitted a small change to CMakeLists.txt to make the tutorial simpler). I'll make a start moving the other platform specific sections to the new site and update the migration tasks as I go. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47701#47701 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Robert et al, I have been populating the new webpage, migrating contents from the older one. As robert suggested I have gone for Downloads and Support sections. Downloads In the case of dowloads I am going now for Data resources and Tools (suggestions of J-S). @Robert: do you want me to do a downloads hierarchy folder (somethink like in the old server) by FTP and upload latest stable and developer versions? @J-S I feel the category tools may overlap the category community projects, thoughts? @Thomas I have set the page Code Repositories (maybe more appropiated that get the trunk) you can now link to it. Support Some links on the FAQ section are not up to date, we need to migrate the Documentation-knowledge base before. I want to know your opinion about how to address profesional support, Is it worth to have a single article with all the professionals/companies, or to have an article for each professional/company and show them in a blog layout/ list layout? I think it would be better if each professional/company edit its own page. If you any suggestions or doubts don't hesitate to talk about them. Cheers. 2012/5/2 Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, On 2 May 2012 19:03, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: About the migration status I have setup a new migration tasks page in the website. The idea is that authors are able to modify this page and autoasign tasks. Then a publisher review the changes and apply them if appropiated. Publishers and admins should have set the priority of each item before, and remove those items which won't be migrated. Migration page looks good. I'll have a deeper look at the list tomorrow. I'm guessing I should tackle the support and downloads pages as priority. Unfortunately I'll be away next week in Montreal so won't be able to work on the website, in the evening's if I'm able I'll try to keep up with emails. The rest of this week I'll be wrapping up my prep for the trip so won't have too much time either, but I'll be around able to put some time in. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
I missed to say that I tried to respect the authory of the articles migrated from the old webpage, or for example de Debbuging tips (from Paul Martz). But there are some cases where I didnt know who was the author. Cheers 2012/5/9 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Robert et al, I have been populating the new webpage, migrating contents from the older one. As robert suggested I have gone for Downloads and Support sections. Downloads In the case of dowloads I am going now for Data resources and Tools (suggestions of J-S). @Robert: do you want me to do a downloads hierarchy folder (somethink like in the old server) by FTP and upload latest stable and developer versions? @J-S I feel the category tools may overlap the category community projects, thoughts? @Thomas I have set the page Code Repositories (maybe more appropiated that get the trunk) you can now link to it. Support Some links on the FAQ section are not up to date, we need to migrate the Documentation-knowledge base before. I want to know your opinion about how to address profesional support, Is it worth to have a single article with all the professionals/companies, or to have an article for each professional/company and show them in a blog layout/ list layout? I think it would be better if each professional/company edit its own page. If you any suggestions or doubts don't hesitate to talk about them. Cheers. 2012/5/2 Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, On 2 May 2012 19:03, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: About the migration status I have setup a new migration tasks page in the website. The idea is that authors are able to modify this page and autoasign tasks. Then a publisher review the changes and apply them if appropiated. Publishers and admins should have set the priority of each item before, and remove those items which won't be migrated. Migration page looks good. I'll have a deeper look at the list tomorrow. I'm guessing I should tackle the support and downloads pages as priority. Unfortunately I'll be away next week in Montreal so won't be able to work on the website, in the evening's if I'm able I'll try to keep up with emails. The rest of this week I'll be wrapping up my prep for the trip so won't have too much time either, but I'll be around able to put some time in. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi Thanks for setting up the Code Repositries stuff, I really like the added Git and Mercurial links, I've been away away on a stag do (well more recovering), but should get back at it this weekend. Cheers Tom ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Tom, 2012/5/1 Thomas Hogarth thomas.hoga...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, Yes openscenegraph.org is working for me again, What a dummy, of course I could get the svn url from my existing repos. I'll try get some more content added this week now I can do the practical side as I go along. I'm happy with joomla, seems pretty simple to me. Once i get my IOS pages done, do you want me to start moving existing things over? It would be nice! Go ahead, if you need anything from me, don't hesitate to ask. If you are going for some specific section say it in order to not overlap tasks. If we are happy with breaking getting start down into a start page with -Get the trunk info -Then link to platform specific info for CMake/Project creating I can move over existing windows and OSX info and confirm it's correct, I have a little experience with linux, but I tend to use the CMake GUI and I'm not sure how common that is on linux distros. I can move Linux specific stuff, don't worry about that. From what i've seen of the new template I think it's good and we need to start populating it. I agree, there are a lot of info to migrate so we need to get started. Thanks Tom. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47468#47468 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, Thomas et. al, I think it would be worth us getting the main root elements of the website up and working fully and any the main extensions to Joomla installed that we'll need they do a wider call for feedback on how well it's working on different browsers/platforms and how different users are happy with things. If things look good then we can start the full migration over. How to manage the full migration is a big question, both from a personnel level and the process involved. I would suggest we have editors/publishers that review the web pages as they go in, and have various people with support for writing articles - I would guess there would be an overlap here. We'd need to have different people responsible for different elements, and working list of pages that need to copied over from the original site, and what pages we have copied across that need further work. Is it possible to get Tracs to list all the pages and their hierarchy? I'm thinking that if we could list then all we can publish a page with table of the pages and that status of moving it across. I also wonder if we could leave breadcrumbs directly on new and original website that provide the appropriate links between the two pages and the status so that when others come along they can see how things are progressing. Perhaps a little text at the top of each page would be appropriate. Thoughts? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Robert, 2012/5/2 Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, Thomas et. al, I think it would be worth us getting the main root elements of the website up and working fully and any the main extensions to Joomla installed that we'll need they do a wider call for feedback on how well it's working on different browsers/platforms and how different users are happy with things. If things look good then we can start the full migration over. Ok, maybe I was a little enthusiastic about going on. Anyway filling some more sections will give us a better idea of how things will look. How to manage the full migration is a big question, both from a personnel level and the process involved. I would suggest we have editors/publishers that review the web pages as they go in, and have various people with support for writing articles - I would guess there would be an overlap here. We'd need to have different people responsible for different elements, and working list of pages that need to copied over from the original site, and what pages we have copied across that need further work. Is it possible to get Tracs to list all the pages and their hierarchy? I'm thinking that if we could list then all we can publish a page with table of the pages and that status of moving it across. I also wonder if we could leave breadcrumbs directly on new and original website that provide the appropriate links between the two pages and the status so that when others come along they can see how things are progressing. Perhaps a little text at the top of each page would be appropriate. Thoughts? Take a look to http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/TitleIndex . Not all the sections have to be migrated, but here we have an idea of the amount of work. If you want I can make a migration section in the new web and add a table with links to the old server and the status of each section (None /In progress/ Completed ). ok? Cheers. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, On 2 May 2012 10:50, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, maybe I was a little enthusiastic about going on. Anyway filling some more sections will give us a better idea of how things will look. Personally I'm pretty chuffed with the new website and Joomla so far, and have no doubts that it'll serve us better than Tracs. I have really have few doubts all-round about the tech side actually, it's more the process of getting things transferred safely is now the daunting bit. Take a look to http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/osg/wiki/TitleIndex . Perfect - exactly what I was hoping for. Not all the sections have to be migrated, but here we have an idea of the amount of work. If you want I can make a migration section in the new web and add a table with links to the old server and the status of each section (None /In progress/ Completed ). It would be great if you could do this. Having a column in the table for priority and who it'll be assigned to would help with managing the translation. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi all, sorry for being offlist, I was is Barcelona for 6 days :) @Robert : how do we process with related projects like VirtualPlanetBuilder? @ Jordi: Would it be worthwhile to add a page where you list the installed joomla modules/techniques to allow related projects like osgEarth or osgVisual ;) to move to the new website style? @ all : I host a Joomla installation for my rowing club, but I must admit I have no further knowledge how to use it. I need a basic knowlege set to contribute to the migration process, I would like to help with VPB and the VS 2008 related stuff. Currently I have my head down on my PhD and osgVisuals new distortion framework (will hopefully migrate to core OSG once it is finished), so my time is a little bit limited. Therfore I need some brief resources, I have (unfortunately) no time to dive into a 50 pages document. :/ Thank you! Cheers, Torben -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47494#47494 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Guys @Jordi, thanks for the list of pages, wow that is quite a bit to move. I'm fine with you assigning me a bunch of content to port over, if we limit it to say 5-10 pages at a time, so I don't fall too far behind. Could we perhaps use a google doc with all page titles added with current status of porting etc? Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47498#47498 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Torben, On 2 May 2012 12:10, Torben Dannhauer tor...@dannhauer.info wrote: @Robert : how do we process with related projects like VirtualPlanetBuilder? I haven't made any specific plans for VPB and other projects under osgforge.org, most are currently dormant/orphaned save for VPB. The currently hosted projects are: http://www.openscenegraph.org/projects/ osg osgDotNet osgEphemeris osgTutorial Present3D Producer VirtualPlanetBuilder Present3D is now part of the core OSG and has it's own user documentation hosted by the digitallearningfoundation.org (DLF). Producer/osgProducer/osgEphemeris wraps up a mirror from five years ago when we moved across to OSG-2.0, AndesEngineering still has the official head of Producer and osgEphemeris so shouldn't be a need to port it over. osgTutorial never ended up populated with anything so can be dropped. This leaves osgDotNet and VPB as needing new homes. I am not responsible for osgDotNet and know nothing about it's currently status and activity, but it's rarely talked about on osg-users mailing list/forum so I suspect it's largely dormant these days. Users of osgDotNet really need to set up and decide what they want to do with it. For VPB I think something similar to what we have for the new OSG website would be appropriate, or perhaps just have a segment of new OSG website dedicated to VPB. I'm open to suggestions. @ Jordi: Would it be worthwhile to add a page where you list the installed joomla modules/techniques to allow related projects like osgEarth or osgVisual ;) to move to the new website style? @ all : I host a Joomla installation for my rowing club, but I must admit I have no further knowledge how to use it. I need a basic knowlege set to contribute to the migration process, I would like to help with VPB and the VS 2008 related stuff. VPB website is tiny compared to the OSG one so shouldn't take too much to port over. Currently I have my head down on my PhD and osgVisuals new distortion framework (will hopefully migrate to core OSG once it is finished), so my time is a little bit limited. Therfore I need some brief resources, I have (unfortunately) no time to dive into a 50 pages document. :/ I'd suggest concentrating on your PhD unless you have some spare time in which you feel able to help out. Perhaps just having a couple of pages on the new OSG website for VPB would be a first step we needn't perfect everything right away. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Torben, Thomas, Robert et al, @ Jordi: Would it be worthwhile to add a page where you list the installed joomla modules/techniques to allow related projects like osgEarth or osgVisual ;) to move to the new website style? Once we know what to do with these projects (In my opinion they should be under the non existent menu item Community-projects and erase the item derived software), certanily we need to have an author's guide and publisher's guide. I will include it in my to do huge list :P. We could add a new menu only visible for registered users with these guides. About the migration status I have setup a new migration taskshttp://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/migration-taskspage in the website. The idea is that authors are able to modify this page and autoasign tasks. Then a publisher review the changes and apply them if appropiated. Publishers and admins should have set the priority of each item before, and remove those items which won't be migrated. Thoughts? -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, On 2 May 2012 19:03, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: About the migration status I have setup a new migration tasks page in the website. The idea is that authors are able to modify this page and autoasign tasks. Then a publisher review the changes and apply them if appropiated. Publishers and admins should have set the priority of each item before, and remove those items which won't be migrated. Migration page looks good. I'll have a deeper look at the list tomorrow. I'm guessing I should tackle the support and downloads pages as priority. Unfortunately I'll be away next week in Montreal so won't be able to work on the website, in the evening's if I'm able I'll try to keep up with emails. The rest of this week I'll be wrapping up my prep for the trip so won't have too much time either, but I'll be around able to put some time in. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jan, I think you really need to do your homework. You're so far behind on WP technology it isn't even funny. I can make protected areas with Wishlist, I can make a forum with BB Forum, I can custom CSS anytime I need to within the dashboard as all versions allow for that. WP FAR surpasses Joomla or Drupal and hasn't been a blogging platform in over 4 years! ... Thank you! Cheers, Diane -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47460#47460 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, Yes openscenegraph.org is working for me again, What a dummy, of course I could get the svn url from my existing repos. I'll try get some more content added this week now I can do the practical side as I go along. I'm happy with joomla, seems pretty simple to me. Once i get my IOS pages done, do you want me to start moving existing things over? If we are happy with breaking getting start down into a start page with -Get the trunk info -Then link to platform specific info for CMake/Project creating I can move over existing windows and OSX info and confirm it's correct, I have a little experience with linux, but I tend to use the CMake GUI and I'm not sure how common that is on linux distros. From what i've seen of the new template I think it's good and we need to start populating it. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47468#47468 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Thomas, 2012/4/29 Thomas Hogarth thomas.hoga...@gmail.com Hi guys So I've caught up on what's been going on, I'm liking the new template being used on www.openscenegraph.com I've had a bash at publishing an article http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/ios/23-configuring-cmake-for-ios I'll finish it up as soon as I can download a fresh svn trunk but openscenegraph.org is down and I don't know the svn url. (On a side note there's no section on the new site for the source control/svn url) It seems that University DNS have been suffering problems, better said, is not the trac problem we normally have. Can you reach openscenegraph.orgnow? Anyway doing a svn info you have the svn URL ( http://www.openscenegraph.org/svn/osg/OpenSceneGraph/trunk). Once I get a trunk I'll step through a few build configs for iOS to confirm everything is working as the document states and maybe grab a few screen shots. I also wanted to get peoples opinions on the break down I'm aiming for for getting started section. For iOS at least I was thinking -How to configure CMake for iOS/Generating an iOS XCode Project -Building the libraries for iOS and linking to own project (what ones are really needed + the static macro stuff) -Setting up an OSG view in an iOS application (maybe cover some stuff about assets) +1, Great. :) I guess then all platforms can share a Get the code page, then move to platform specific CMake page. I think it is worth to have a menu item like Get the trunk in downloads section, because all the osg releases articles should have a link to the svn tag. You may link to this item in your article. Thoughts? What do you guys think? Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47404#47404 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi guys So I've caught up on what's been going on, I'm liking the new template being used on www.openscenegraph.com I've had a bash at publishing an article http://www.openscenegraph.com/index.php/documentation/platform-specifics/ios/23-configuring-cmake-for-ios I'll finish it up as soon as I can download a fresh svn trunk but openscenegraph.org is down and I don't know the svn url. (On a side note there's no section on the new site for the source control/svn url) Once I get a trunk I'll step through a few build configs for iOS to confirm everything is working as the document states and maybe grab a few screen shots. I also wanted to get peoples opinions on the break down I'm aiming for for getting started section. For iOS at least I was thinking -How to configure CMake for iOS/Generating an iOS XCode Project -Building the libraries for iOS and linking to own project (what ones are really needed + the static macro stuff) -Setting up an OSG view in an iOS application (maybe cover some stuff about assets) I guess then all platforms can share a Get the code page, then move to platform specific CMake page. What do you guys think? Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47404#47404 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, The new pics on the front page looks good and while outwardly quite similar to the old website does allow you to click and see a full picture which is great. What is the name of the extension that you added for this feature? W.r.t the Gallery I downloaded and installed the Very Simple Image Gallery and Simple Picture Slideshow just to get a bit of experience with installing extensions, it worked but the results aren't that great. One thing I would like for the gallery is ability to have a table to of images with titles that link to individual articles for each project. Is there a menu that might do something similar? I would just like to have an easy overview of all the individual project screenshots. Showcases and Galleries is something I have resolved in my head yet. I do wonder if Showcases might be more like an magazine article that not only shows the glossy pictures/videos but also talks more in depth about the project and how the OSG is used within it. I'm open to suggestions. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Michael, I'm not sure About is suitable for Showcase. Gallery is more about Showcase. About is more about OSG, not some related projects. And Gallery is... a gallery of what have been done with OSG. I disagree. I meant Showcase to be about selling OSG. Meaning, when someone stumbles on the OSG site and wonders if OSG would be good for their project, they'll see Showcase in the About menu and will immediately see what OSG is capable of. Gallery is more a place where the community can show what they've done, so more exhaustive. It's more about people showing what they've done than people seeing what can be done. But you may be right, I may be seeing a difference where there is none. It may not be a good idea, it may duplicate things. J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guay jean_...@videotron.ca http://whitestar02.dyndns-web.com/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi, G-S. Gallery is more a place where the community can show what they've done That's exactly my point. And that's exactly the thought one thinks when he is wondering if OSG is suitable for him - he looks into what others done. So having it easily accessible for a person who doesn't know the layout of OSG website is good for getting him excited right from the start. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Robert, 2012/4/27 Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, The new pics on the front page looks good and while outwardly quite similar to the old website does allow you to click and see a full picture which is great. What is the name of the extension that you added for this feature? The plugin is called Admiror Gallery. It is easy to use and the results are quite good. You can have a look to the options at the plugin manager. W.r.t the Gallery I downloaded and installed the Very Simple Image Gallery and Simple Picture Slideshow just to get a bit of experience with installing extensions, it worked but the results aren't that great. One thing I would like for the gallery is ability to have a table to of images with titles that link to individual articles for each project. Is there a menu that might do something similar? I would just like to have an easy overview of all the individual project screenshots. I don't know if exists such a plugin, but it's easy to do with plain html in a single article. I will try to organize Gallery-Screenshots in several subgalleries, where the cover of each subgallery is a image linking a single article which contains the specific project gallery and some words related to this project (links, etc.) Showcases and Galleries is something I have resolved in my head yet. I do wonder if Showcases might be more like an magazine article that not only shows the glossy pictures/videos but also talks more in depth about the project and how the OSG is used within it. I'm open to suggestions. I will wait for community discussion to modify this items. In general when I arrive to a new project the first step for me is go to the gallery to see what kind of results I can get. In the other hand having a showcase section with the best of OSG, explaining how is it used seems good to me. All in all it is a personal opinion. Cheers. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, The new openscenegraph.com template looks great. I feel that the upper menu both looks clean and is easy to navigate. I don't think having two menus on the home page would be appropriate, I'd rather have one menu with all the main categories and then have the sub categories nest within each menu - like is done with the new rev of openscenegraph.com. W.r.t news, the Twitter feed looks good and it's nice to see how dynamic the feed is - possibly too dynamic as a lot of the twitter posts look of rather niche interest. How easy it to filter the feeds that are followed? I'm a complete Twitter newbie :-) Having community new feed in on the front page is a good idea too, but I wouldn't want it to drown out the big news items like OSG releases and book publications. Perhaps having a high volume general news module and low volume project news module with the project news one kept small enough to allow the larger block of community new below it. I'm guessing we don't need too much other project introduction on the home page, pictures/slideshows and short sentence would be sufficient - as long as the links for more information and all visible it'd be fine. As for submitting community news, an dedicated email might be possible but I can't help feel that it could be abused by spammers. Personally I feel that news items making it onto the front page really need some editorial oversight. Since with Joomla we have the ability of community members to log in and if they have permission add articles I don't think it'd require too much interaction between people to make it happen - we just need to make sure that we have more than one editor available to handle the requests to add news. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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As for community news, they can be posted once a month since those are community news, only special news like OSG releases, books, significant projects should have complete newsletter dedicated to them. Reading 'requests to add news' I felt you may have understood that I want immediate news posting, but no, only once in a while so that main page doesn't become a clutter. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi J-S, Robert, Michael et al, @J-S I picked up your suggestions and I just added download- tools/data/dependencies. About showcase menu item I already have a similiar item in community-Derived Software, but if you feel it's worth to have it in About I will go ahead with this change. Next doubts in a separate thread, thanks for helping me! @Robert Ok I won't change the menu, it's not necessary and I really don't like to have two menus :). I added a gallery to the front page, very simple and clean IMO, I pick the screenshots of the media gallery. About twitter I really don't know, I will have to dive in as I am too a twitter newbie. I will try to set community news in the front page below the osg project news. @Michael I am with Robert, I rather to have authors and publishers profiles, and if anybody in the community wants to post any information he will be able to do it once he is registered and his post is reviewed. Thank you all for getting involved! Cheers. 2012/4/26 michael kapelko korn...@gmail.com As for community news, they can be posted once a month since those are community news, only special news like OSG releases, books, significant projects should have complete newsletter dedicated to them. Reading 'requests to add news' I felt you may have understood that I want immediate news posting, but no, only once in a while so that main page doesn't become a clutter. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, @J-S I picked up your suggestions and I just added download- tools/data/dependencies. About showcase menu item I already have a similiar item in community-Derived Software, but if you feel it's worth to have it in About I will go ahead with this change. I don't have a specific preference on where the info should be, but I think there are two specific goals here: 1) Give links to any software based on OSG, so people who want to use nodekits or engines based on OSG can find them, this seems to fit Community - Derived Software 2) Promote the best OSG projects to show what OSG can do, I think this would be nice in About - Showcase My motivation for number 2 is that in the past, I have had trouble convincing people that OSG was a good tool for the job. People were inclined to think game engines (Ogre, Unreal) or other scene graphs (Vega Prime) gave better results because there are clear examples of projects that have used those and got good results. So I think it's important to have a place where we can promote that OSG is a first-class graphics engine and can do all the really advanced effects when in capable hands. A gallery and derived software section is not the right place for that, because we'll often want to list any/all projects there, whereas in a Showcase section we can pick and choose to try and put the best face possible for potential new users. People who stumble upon OSG when looking for a graphics engine will probably look at the About section before the Community section, because they are first interested in whether OSG can fit their purposes, and realize the benefit of the large community later. So to make a good first impression, I think we need a section in About that will show what can be done with OSG. Just my two cents, J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guay jean_...@videotron.ca http://whitestar02.dyndns-web.com/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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I'm not sure About is suitable for Showcase. Gallery is more about Showcase. About is more about OSG, not some related projects. And Gallery is... a gallery of what have been done with OSG. I would even put replace Gallery with Showcase and put Gallery as subitem of Showcase. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi all, I have been working a bit in the new osg website (http://openscenegraph.com). I am now creating all content categories and menu items. The amount of information in the old wiki is huge!! :S... If the menu becomes bigger maybe we need to split the main menu in vertical and top menus. I have done a test in my osg fake web (http://webkeux.com/osg) but I am not fully convinced. The vast majority of the articles does not have information yet, but I am filling them step by step. If you see something that I missed or something that could be improved or better categorized say it! :). It's very important to do this before to fill all the contents, it's the way to get the information quick. Cheers. 2012/4/23 Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com Hi Robert, The best thing seems to share an account to manage the web folder [1], and then move the web directory to the new account as is explained in the link. Sorry to bother you with more web stuff, but I need superadmin rights in joomla to install the template because I need to access to extension manager and I can't with admin rights :(. Cheers. [1]http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=2951 2012/4/23 Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, On 23 April 2012 09:09, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your feedback. I will install the template in the new server (http://openscenegraph.com). Robert could you give me an ftp account? I need to tweak some css's and change some images, including the header-banner image with the blue marble layer. I'm still feeling my around server admin with Dreamhost, and haven't yet spotted a specific place to create a ftp account for you. I'm wondering if just creating an account for you with my Dreamhost account would be sufficient/appropriate. Suggestions? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, The vast majority of the articles does not have information yet, but I am filling them step by step. If you see something that I missed or something that could be improved or better categorized say it! :). It's very important to do this before to fill all the contents, it's the way to get the information quick. I really like the menu at the top. Much better than the old Trac menu at the right side... The top-level items are good IMHO, and apart from adding a few other items in some menus, I think the contents of each menu are good too. Specifically, I would add: * About - Showcase (or some other term) A page that would link to projects done using OSG (whether they're downloadable / open source or not). I would sub-categorize this page in 1) engines / frameworks based on OSG, 2) vis-sim applications / simulators, 3) games. As we've seen in recent threads, I think OSG doesn't have enough visibility and showing successful projects done using OSG would promote it greatly. * Downloads - Tools A page with links to the major exporters (OSGExp for 3DSMax, Maya2OSG for Maya, Cedric's Blender plugin, etc.), modeling tools (OSGEdit, Remograph), etc. that people can use in conjunction with OSG. * Downloads - Data People often come to the list/forum asking where they can find free data. Of course the sample datasets would be listed here. Also some links to the Google sketchup model library (mentioning that they can load .kml using a specific plugin, was it collada?), and other free / open source model libraries would help them on their way. Apart from my own suggestions, I think you should perhaps start a new thread, in order to get more focused comments. Specifically target people who have just started using / learning OSG, or who have just installed it and are in the process of looking over the documentation / examples. Ask them how they found the existing documentation. I think Robert was suggesting a change in the structure of the documentation, don't remember what it was, but I'm pretty sure new users will have good ideas and comments on what works and doesn't work in the current structure. This will prevent you from doing things the same way as on openscenegraph.org, if it's not that effective for new users... Great work so far, keep it up! J-S -- __ Jean-Sebastien Guay jean_...@videotron.ca http://whitestar02.dyndns-web.com/ ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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I think the main page should list news vertically and contain both community news (like this: http://www.ogre3d.org/2011/10/03/ogre-news-13 ) and OSG itself news (like this: http://www.ogre3d.org/2011/11/13/ogre-1-8-release-candidate-1-rc1 ). OSG news are posted like it is now, but community ones are posted on a request basis where a man who wants his project be featured on the main page sends request to, say, n...@osg.com so there's no need for admins to track community progress - community will take care of itself. Such main page allows to see how OSG is developing and for people to get noticed. Thanks. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi all, Thank you for your feedback. I will install the template in the new server ( http://openscenegraph.com). Robert could you give me an ftp account? I need to tweak some css's and change some images, including the header-banner image with the blue marble layer. In fact we can have different banners as they load randomly. If anybody is willing to send and image it has to be 600 x 80 pixels. About beginner stuff I agree with you, it's better to split the wall of text :). I just copied the old web content. Once the template is active anybody with publisher rights will be able to change it. Joomla has modules to read directly from a feed, so, for the svn we need a post-commit** hook that publishes commit information. After that, including it in joomla is pretty straight forward. About twitter updates we have different options [1]. In my opinion is better to have an openscenegraph twitter account, and then connect it to the webblog, publish commit informations (directly from the feed) or releases automaticly. [1] https://twitter.com/about/resources/widgets Cheers. 2012/4/22 Eduardo Poyart poy...@gmail.com Hello, It looks great on an iPad, except for a minor cropping problem on the twitter panel on the right. Screenshot is attached below. Eduardo [image: image.png] On Apr 20, 2012, at 5:34 AM, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Hi had a bit of time to play with some joomla templates ( http://webkeux.com/osg/), and I decided for JA_purity template. The web is in its first stage, but speaking with robert we decided to put this in the community knowledge. This way others can chime in and say their opinion or whatever they want. There is not many information yet, but it's enough to judge the layout and colors, etc. We had to add many information, for example last svn commits, etc. I am awating for your opinion, don't be bad :). Thanks! Cheers. 2012/4/17 Chris Hanson xe...@alphapixel.com On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm happy to add/change permissions of others, just let me know what you'd like to contribute to and what types of rights you think you'll need. I would like to be able to contribute in the future but as of this month I'm sort of swamped with other matters. You cans see from my TRAC history that I do try to keep the (old) site up to date and correct when and where I discover problems. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Training • Consulting • Contracting 3D • Scene Graphs (Open Scene Graph/OSG) • OpenGL 2 • OpenGL 3 • OpenGL 4 • GLSL • OpenGL ES 1 • OpenGL ES 2 • OpenCL Digital Imaging • GIS • GPS • Telemetry • Cryptography • Digital Audio • LIDAR • Kinect • Embedded • Mobile • iPhone/iPad/iOS • Android ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, the automatic content creating sounds great, so its easy to communicate new updates . currently I have no nice banner available, but I would like to provide one in some weeks or month. Cheers, Torben -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47220#47220 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Jordi, On 23 April 2012 09:09, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your feedback. I will install the template in the new server (http://openscenegraph.com). Robert could you give me an ftp account? I need to tweak some css's and change some images, including the header-banner image with the blue marble layer. I'm still feeling my around server admin with Dreamhost, and haven't yet spotted a specific place to create a ftp account for you. I'm wondering if just creating an account for you with my Dreamhost account would be sufficient/appropriate. Suggestions? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Robert, The best thing seems to share an account to manage the web folder [1], and then move the web directory to the new account as is explained in the link. Sorry to bother you with more web stuff, but I need superadmin rights in joomla to install the template because I need to access to extension manager and I can't with admin rights :(. Cheers. [1]http://blog.dreamhosters.com/kbase/index.cgi?area=2951 2012/4/23 Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com Hi Jordi, On 23 April 2012 09:09, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your feedback. I will install the template in the new server (http://openscenegraph.com). Robert could you give me an ftp account? I need to tweak some css's and change some images, including the header-banner image with the blue marble layer. I'm still feeling my around server admin with Dreamhost, and haven't yet spotted a specific place to create a ftp account for you. I'm wondering if just creating an account for you with my Dreamhost account would be sufficient/appropriate. Suggestions? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi, I personally prefer the design on http://webkeux.com/osg/ over the one on openscenegraph.com regarding the beginner stuff: I suggest we differentiate betwen Getting started and Setup a BuildEnvironment. As I started with OSG in 2009, the biggest hurdle was the build environment. These instructions are quite lengthly, so I suggest to factor them out of the getting started tutorial. Maybe we could have common beginner tutorials (Getting started and others) on the one hand and platform specific Setup Build Environment tutorials (per OS and/or per used Buildtools) on the other. The getting started tutorial could refer to the platform specific instructions at the beginning. I think this refactoring would reduce the wall a lot because it is more clearly which tutorials are relevant for a beginner (usually two, the getting started and his specific setup Build Environment. Cheers, Torben -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47191#47191 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi all, Hi had a bit of time to play with some joomla templates ( http://webkeux.com/osg/), and I decided for JA_purity template. The web is in its first stage, but speaking with robert we decided to put this in the community knowledge. This way others can chime in and say their opinion or whatever they want. There is not many information yet, but it's enough to judge the layout and colors, etc. We had to add many information, for example last svn commits, etc. I am awating for your opinion, don't be bad :). Thanks! Cheers. 2012/4/17 Chris Hanson xe...@alphapixel.com On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm happy to add/change permissions of others, just let me know what you'd like to contribute to and what types of rights you think you'll need. I would like to be able to contribute in the future but as of this month I'm sort of swamped with other matters. You cans see from my TRAC history that I do try to keep the (old) site up to date and correct when and where I discover problems. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Training • Consulting • Contracting 3D • Scene Graphs (Open Scene Graph/OSG) • OpenGL 2 • OpenGL 3 • OpenGL 4 • GLSL • OpenGL ES 1 • OpenGL ES 2 • OpenCL Digital Imaging • GIS • GPS • Telemetry • Cryptography • Digital Audio • LIDAR • Kinect • Embedded • Mobile • iPhone/iPad/iOS • Android ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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I rather like the template. The front page is a bit sparse though, but then it is only a test so there may be more to come. I've always thought that a lot of the guidance pages on the old website, for example the getting started guide could be made a bit friendlier. They've always appeared to be a bit of a wall of text to me. Perhaps separating it into different sections based on operating system would help? I would be happy to help out with the website text or layout if needed. Regards, Kim. On 20 April 2012 13:34, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Hi had a bit of time to play with some joomla templates ( http://webkeux.com/osg/), and I decided for JA_purity template. The web is in its first stage, but speaking with robert we decided to put this in the community knowledge. This way others can chime in and say their opinion or whatever they want. There is not many information yet, but it's enough to judge the layout and colors, etc. We had to add many information, for example last svn commits, etc. I am awating for your opinion, don't be bad :). Thanks! Cheers. 2012/4/17 Chris Hanson xe...@alphapixel.com On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm happy to add/change permissions of others, just let me know what you'd like to contribute to and what types of rights you think you'll need. I would like to be able to contribute in the future but as of this month I'm sort of swamped with other matters. You cans see from my TRAC history that I do try to keep the (old) site up to date and correct when and where I discover problems. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Training • Consulting • Contracting 3D • Scene Graphs (Open Scene Graph/OSG) • OpenGL 2 • OpenGL 3 • OpenGL 4 • GLSL • OpenGL ES 1 • OpenGL ES 2 • OpenCL Digital Imaging • GIS • GPS • Telemetry • Cryptography • Digital Audio • LIDAR • Kinect • Embedded • Mobile • iPhone/iPad/iOS • Android ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Jordi, On 20 April 2012 13:34, Jordi Torres jtorresfa...@gmail.com wrote: Hi had a bit of time to play with some joomla templates (http://webkeux.com/osg/), and I decided for JA_purity template. The web is in its first stage, but speaking with robert we decided to put this in the community knowledge. This way others can chime in and say their opinion or whatever they want. The new template and layout looks good, a big improvement on what I've had on openscenegraph.com. Could you install this template on openscenegraph.com - I've given you administrator rights so this should be possible. With the banners background image, if we are to have one I would suggest going for something like an subtle/blending blue marble earth image - perhaps a top quarter of the the earth in the banner would be sufficient. Perhaps others in the community can volunteer an image. On the technical side could you give a bit of introduction how all the various feed components work and how we populate them. Thanks for you efforts, Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Robert So I had a quick stab at porting the Getting Started page to Joomla. I still don't have any kind of admin rights on the osg.com site so for now I did it on my website http://www.hogbox.co.uk/joomla/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=47:getting-startedcatid=31:generalItemid=46 That was a straight copy and pate from the osg site (rendered in browser, not viewing source), into the joomla editor. Worked quite well as it only took about 30 seconds. So transfering stuff as is is easy enough. So I think we just need to think a little about re aranging. Cheers Tom PS Something weird about the url I've given, If I add the [url] tags round it it just sends me to the root of my site. So just copy and pate into url bar -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47097#47097 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Torben, On 15 April 2012 13:52, Torben Dannhauer tor...@dannhauer.info wrote: btw: the registration email of openscenegraph.com ist still not delivered to my Email server. I just checked the list of registered users on the new site and see that you hadn't been activated yet, I presume due to your email not yet appearing. Might this be the due to the SPF record issue that Thomas's earlier email in this thread mentions? As it looks like your having problems I have gone ahead and activated your login. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Thomas, On 17 April 2012 15:59, Thomas Hogarth thomas.hoga...@gmail.com wrote: So I had a quick stab at porting the Getting Started page to Joomla. I still don't have any kind of admin rights on the osg.com site so for now I did it on my website http://www.hogbox.co.uk/joomla/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=47:getting-startedcatid=31:generalItemid=46 That was a straight copy and pate from the osg site (rendered in browser, not viewing source), into the joomla editor. Worked quite well as it only took about 30 seconds. Looks quite reasonable. The links are the things that will require further work, as these are mostly within the old wiki one would need to create new articles for each of these. So transfering stuff as is is easy enough. So I think we just need to think a little about re aranging. I think it would probably be a good time to rewrite the main pages that the community will be using. The GettingStarted for instance could probably be separated directly into platform specific pages. I haven't yet spent time working on the layout, rather been experimenting with joomla, extensions and getting resources like releases copied across to the new site. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi All, I have just set the permissions of a couple of the openscenegraph.com registered users to Publisher, which should allow those with this new right to be able to edit existing articles, add new ones and publish them so they appear on the site so that others can view and review them. Looking at interest in helping out with the new website and a little presumption I've given the following people Publisher rights: Paul Martz, Rui Wang Thomas Holgarth Torben Dannhaur I have also add Jordi Torres with Administrator rights as he's got prior experience with Joomla and is now helping out with the old nursing the old Tracs openscengraph.org website. I'm happy to add/change permissions of others, just let me know what you'd like to contribute to and what types of rights you think you'll need. I'm viewing this changes in rights as experiment for now. I'd like to get a basic but functional website up for now, as get more experience with Joomla and the way of working with it it will be appropriate to review the rights we give different users. For those with the new rights, if you do plan on modifying the actual website and publishing the results please let us know what you will be working on so we can coordinate our efforts. Cheers, Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Robert Osfield robert.osfi...@gmail.comwrote: Hi All, I'm happy to add/change permissions of others, just let me know what you'd like to contribute to and what types of rights you think you'll need. I would like to be able to contribute in the future but as of this month I'm sort of swamped with other matters. You cans see from my TRAC history that I do try to keep the (old) site up to date and correct when and where I discover problems. -- Chris 'Xenon' Hanson, omo sanza lettere. xe...@alphapixel.com http://www.alphapixel.com/ Training • Consulting • Contracting 3D • Scene Graphs (Open Scene Graph/OSG) • OpenGL 2 • OpenGL 3 • OpenGL 4 • GLSL • OpenGL ES 1 • OpenGL ES 2 • OpenCL Digital Imaging • GIS • GPS • Telemetry • Cryptography • Digital Audio • LIDAR • Kinect • Embedded • Mobile • iPhone/iPad/iOS • Android ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Torben, On 13 April 2012 06:16, Torben Dannhauer tor...@dannhauer.info wrote: I have dedicated servers in a data center. If you need storage place for all the OSG packed files like releases, dependencies, additional files and others I can provide webspace with gigabytes of size and terabyte of traffic with FTP Upload (or any other protocaol you prefer) Just give me a note if I can help! Thanks for the offer. I have space on my Dreamhost account that should hopefully be sufficient for our needs so will continue with the current experiment with openscenegraph.com. If this looks viable we can keep it on Dreamhost otherwise I might well be looking for help. Cheers, Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Robert, that sounds good :) btw: the registration email of openscenegraph.com ist still not delivered to my Email server. Cheers, Torben -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47060#47060 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Robert, I have dedicated servers in a data center. If you need storage place for all the OSG packed files like releases, dependencies, additional files and others I can provide webspace with gigabytes of size and terabyte of traffic with FTP Upload (or any other protocaol you prefer) Just give me a note if I can help! Cheers, Torben -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47040#47040 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Tom, On 12 April 2012 01:16, Thomas Hogarth thomas.hoga...@gmail.com wrote: So I've been playing a bit more with mediawiki, seems pretty good. http://wiki.openscenegraph.com/index.php?title=File:Stereomagic-screenshot01.png Not much but adding the links and image was very easy. I've also been having a look at features that could make the tutorials easier to follow. Found this plugin for syntax highlighting. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Syntax_Highlighting Thanks for doing the experimentation. Could you try and put together a test tutorial on any subject that you feel able, iOS for instance. Your experience with this will give us an idea of how they might look and how quickly/easily they can be put together. It might also be useful to attempt to copy the contents over as a straight joomla article to see how easily one can do the equivalent in joomla. So is the plan to flesh out what you have on Joomla site (downloads, about, screen shots, pr etc), then move everything in the documentation section of the current site over to mediawiki? This has been my initial plan of action. However, I am starting to wonder if the ability of Joomla to handle creation and editing of content within a browser is not so different to that of a wiki so it might be possible to do everything within Joomla rather than have a wiki and a main website. A wiki does have it's own advantages though so I'm torn. For the average end use they just want easy and quick access to information, downloads and support, whether it's in a wiki or not makes no difference. For those populating the website(s) it's a different set of needs. This initial experimentation stage is really about trying to flesh out what is possible and what might work well for us. I don't know the answers until we've done the leg work. I'd like to get a firm direction within the next week as we really need to start pulling across content and building the new website. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
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Hi Tom et. al, On 12 April 2012 00:17, Thomas Hogarth thomas.hoga...@gmail.com wrote: My Account had been activated It got classed as spam by gmail. Found this about it http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?p=2602821 Says this could be a solution http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enhlrm=enanswer=33786 Thanks for the links. I'm well out of my comfort zone with this stuff - yet more stuff to learn. Has anyone else done setting up of SPF records before? Do we have to set up Joomla to use these records? Also on the subject of accounts, are we planning to use the joomla accounts to login to MediaWiki? I would very much like to avoid having lots of different user logins. In my ideal world we'd have the forum, mailing list and websites all handle with the same logins. I'm guess this would require some kind of customisation of Joomla if we were able to do this. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Martin and Vaclav, On 11 April 2012 21:11, Martin Naylor martinnay...@virginmedia.com wrote: Came straight through for me.. Although I put my username as my surname and cannot change it :) I have logged in as administrator and changed your names and user names they are now name username Martin Naylor martinnaylor Vaclav Bilek vaclavbilek Hopefully I've got it right, could you try and login to see if it works OK? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi All, Those who haven't received their activation email I have used the joomla admin pages for the registered users to activate and enable the accounts for you. We still need to sort out the issue with the mails being eaten as spam, but at least this hurdle shouldn't stop you from joining in the experiment. The next step will be to identify what bits of the website are most critical for populate and they get these pages dealt with, either by me or by others who'll I grant access rights to. The question is what rights should we open to to whom. See below for the list of different groups that Joomla has be default. Public |— Manager |—|— Administrator |— Registered |—|— Author |—|—|— Editor |—|—|—|— Publisher |— Super Users Right now all those who've registered are listed Registered, except for me and I'm listed as Super User. I'm guessing that we'll have a small number of Administrator/Managers and then a wider set of Authors, Editor and Publishers. Those who've worked on Joomla websites will know a bit more about what types of rights are required so let us know your experiences and recommendations. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Robert, That works great now, thanks... Martin -Original Message- From: osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org [mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of Robert Osfield Sent: 12 April 2012 11:29 To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated! Hi Martin and Vaclav, On 11 April 2012 21:11, Martin Naylor martinnay...@virginmedia.com wrote: Came straight through for me.. Although I put my username as my surname and cannot change it :) I have logged in as administrator and changed your names and user names they are now name username Martin Naylor martinnaylor Vaclav Bilek vaclavbilek Hopefully I've got it right, could you try and login to see if it works OK? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Robert So I installed joomla on my server and have had a little play with it, seems easy enough to edit stuff Thanks for doing the experimentation. Could you try and put together a test tutorial on any subject that you feel able, iOS for instance. Your experience with this will give us an idea of how they might look and how quickly/easily they can be put together. It might also be useful to attempt to copy the contents over as a straight joomla article to see how easily one can do the equivalent in joomla. Sure I can do this, I think I will do it in Joomla if you could give me editor (or is it publisher) rights. I can start it on my server just for testing purposes. In terms of quick copying over I guess copying from the Trac editor (assuming it has one) will work best. Or trying to copy html into the joomla html editor. Just to make copying of URLs easier. So I will start with a Getting Started IOS document, and see what plugins joolma has to offer for Syntax highlighting etc. Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=47021#47021 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Thank you Robert. I can login with my username. It looks that it works. Vaclav On 04/12/2012 12:29 PM, Robert Osfield wrote: Hi Martin and Vaclav, On 11 April 2012 21:11, Martin Naylor martinnay...@virginmedia.com wrote: Came straight through for me.. Although I put my username as my surname and cannot change it :) I have logged in as administrator and changed your names and user names they are now name username Martin Naylor martinnaylor Vaclav Bilek vaclavbilek Hopefully I've got it right, could you try and login to see if it works OK? Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi, Robert, On 04/12/2012 06:39 AM, Robert Osfield wrote: Hi All, Those who haven't received their activation email I have used the joomla admin pages for the registered users to activate and enable the accounts for you. We still need to sort out the issue with the mails being eaten as spam, but at least this hurdle shouldn't stop you from joining in the experiment. Thanks, I can log in now. My e-mail finally came at nearly 3:00 am EDT. Checking the route in the header, Dreamhost received it at 11:30, shortly after I registered, and it seems to have taken 15 hours to get from Dreamhost to my mail server here. Of course, when I clicked the link, I was informed that it had expired. In any case, I don't think there's anything you could do at your end to fix my particular issue. The next step will be to identify what bits of the website are most critical for populate and they get these pages dealt with, either by me or by others who'll I grant access rights to. The question is what rights should we open to to whom. See below for the list of different groups that Joomla has be default. Public |— Manager |—|— Administrator |— Registered |—|— Author |—|—|— Editor |—|—|—|— Publisher |— Super Users Right now all those who've registered are listed Registered, except for me and I'm listed as Super User. I'm guessing that we'll have a small number of Administrator/Managers and then a wider set of Authors, Editor and Publishers. Those who've worked on Joomla websites will know a bit more about what types of rights are required so let us know your experiences and recommendations. Our sites have always been pretty small, so we've only ever had the Super User have the ability to do administration, create articles, etc. I know Joomla can handle it, but I've not seen how it works myself. This article explains the different default user groups (you can also create custom groups) http://docs.joomla.org/Changing_user_groups --J ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
I'm in too, thanks Robert. -Paul ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
[osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi All, As most of you will know that the present openscenegraph.org Tracs based website has been unresponsive in the last week and even over the last few months has been pretty patchy. I've discussed previously about the need to move to new a server for new website and adoption of new version control system. For now subversion still looks to be relatively reliable on the old servers so don't believe this is a critical issue to deal with right away - the website is out of action so this will be focus for the short term. Items like public support, merging submissions will take a lower priority for me untill we get a basic functional website back online. Unfortunately the timing isn't ideal as it's Easter holidays so I have all my children home and extended family staying with us so I have a household with party atmosphere which is fun, but... not so good for learning about server/web technologies and actually implementing a website. What time I have had on the computer I've put into learning and experimenting with Joomla hosted on Dreamhost. I've set up so that my experiments with Joomla are up at http://www.openscenegraph.com. There is the beginnings of what could become our new website, I'm still very new to website tech and am far from a graphic designer in terms of skills so it's crude, but I'm encouraged enough to believe that it will be possible to master Joomla and make a website that fits our project needs. Given that the old website is out of action right now I'm happy to just get something basic up so at least we have some online presence, so rather than keep hunting around for the perfect server and website solution I think it be worth just going with Joomla and fixing up what I've already put up to make it functional. If Joomla doesn't work well for the basics then we can look at other solutions, but for now time is too critical to go debating options - we need a solution quick. So... here am I a novice on the website and server side, rather feeble linguist and graphics artist and short of time as well, all together I don't make an idea person to take on whole task of building a new website. I need the communities help. I would love to here from engineers that have Joomla experience or are willing to pitch in with learning it in short order, or have time and skills that suit the task of building a new website. Joomla allows us to have user logins to the website and to grant users different sets of rights to edit and maintain the website. If you can help out please create yourself a login and let me know what areas of the website you think you could help out with and between us we can decide who tackles what, and I'll grant the appropriate rights. I'm still learning Joomla so if you have experience with maintaining websites with Joomla then you insights on what rights to grant to who and how to go about managing things would be very much appreciated. As getting a new website is a critical issue right now I'm putting on hold merging of submissions and doing public support so please be patient with this, and if you'd like me to be back tackling these types of task quickly then helping out with the website will speed this up. Please don't be shy with coming forward, the OpenSceneGraph project (website) needs YOU :-) Thanks in advance for your assistance, Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Has anyone successfully registered an account yet? I went through the registration process and was informed I would be sent an email with an activation link. That was about 1/2 hour ago; still no email... -Paul ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Paul Martz wrote on 2012-04-11: Has anyone successfully registered an account yet? I went through the registration process and was informed I would be sent an email with an activation link. That was about 1/2 hour ago; still no email... I just successfully created an account, activated it, and logged in. Check your spam filter? -- Bryan Thrall Principal Software Engineer FlightSafety International bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi all, I just registered and the email was in the spam folder in my gmail account. Cheers. 2012/4/11 Thrall, Bryan bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com Paul Martz wrote on 2012-04-11: Has anyone successfully registered an account yet? I went through the registration process and was informed I would be sent an email with an activation link. That was about 1/2 hour ago; still no email... I just successfully created an account, activated it, and logged in. Check your spam filter? -- Bryan Thrall Principal Software Engineer FlightSafety International bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Well, I'm glad it's working for most people. Happy website editing! :-) -Paul On 4/11/2012 10:05 AM, Jordi Torres wrote: Hi all, I just registered and the email was in the spam folder in my gmail account. Cheers. 2012/4/11 Thrall, Bryan bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com mailto:bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com Paul Martz wrote on 2012-04-11: Has anyone successfully registered an account yet? I went through the registration process and was informed I would be sent an email with an activation link. That was about 1/2 hour ago; still no email... I just successfully created an account, activated it, and logged in. Check your spam filter? -- Bryan Thrall Principal Software Engineer FlightSafety International bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com mailto:bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org mailto:osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
FWIW, I'm in the same boat as Paul. I registered around 11:30 and still haven't gotten the activation e-mail. I've checked the spam filter. I'll keep an eye out for it... --J On 04/11/2012 01:05 PM, Paul Martz wrote: Well, I'm glad it's working for most people. Happy website editing! :-) -Paul On 4/11/2012 10:05 AM, Jordi Torres wrote: Hi all, I just registered and the email was in the spam folder in my gmail account. Cheers. 2012/4/11 Thrall, Bryanbryan.thr...@flightsafety.com mailto:bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com Paul Martz wrote on 2012-04-11: Has anyone successfully registered an account yet? I went through the registration process and was informed I would be sent an email with an activation link. That was about 1/2 hour ago; still no email... I just successfully created an account, activated it, and logged in. Check your spam filter? -- Bryan Thrall Principal Software Engineer FlightSafety International bryan.thr...@flightsafety.commailto:bryan.thr...@flightsafety.com ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.orgmailto:osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org -- Jordi Torres Fabra gvSIG 3D blog http://gvsig3d.blogspot.com Instituto de Automática e Informática Industrial http://www.ai2.upv.es ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Paul and Jason, If you haven't received the registration email by tomorrow I should be able to enable registration myself or simply add you. However, if you are having problems now then there is good chance a chunk of the rest of the community will have problems too so it'd be good to get to the bottom of it. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hello, Came straight through for me.. Although I put my username as my surname and cannot change it :) Cheers Martin -Original Message- From: osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org [mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of Robert Osfield Sent: 11 April 2012 20:41 To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated! Hi Paul and Jason, If you haven't received the registration email by tomorrow I should be able to enable registration myself or simply add you. However, if you are having problems now then there is good chance a chunk of the rest of the community will have problems too so it'd be good to get to the bottom of it. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
My Account had been activated It got classed as spam by gmail. Found this about it http://forum.joomla.org/viewtopic.php?p=2602821 Says this could be a solution http://support.google.com/a/bin/answer.py?hl=enhlrm=enanswer=33786 Also on the subject of accounts, are we planning to use the joomla accounts to login to MediaWiki? Tom ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi Again So I've been playing a bit more with mediawiki, seems pretty good. http://wiki.openscenegraph.com/index.php?title=File:Stereomagic-screenshot01.png Not much but adding the links and image was very easy. I've also been having a look at features that could make the tutorials easier to follow. Found this plugin for syntax highlighting. http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Syntax_Highlighting So is the plan to flesh out what you have on Joomla site (downloads, about, screen shots, pr etc), then move everything in the documentation section of the current site over to mediawiki? Cheers Tom -- Read this topic online here: http://forum.openscenegraph.org/viewtopic.php?p=46999#46999 ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
On 04/11/2012 07:17 PM, Thomas Hogarth wrote: Also on the subject of accounts, are we planning to use the joomla accounts to login to MediaWiki? Not sure what the plan is myself, but there's a Joomla extension that provides this functionality: http://goo.gl/b4kLk --J ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org
Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated!
Hi, I also tried to register and got the same result as Paul and Jason. I still did not get the registration email. I tried to register again with the same registration data and I have got following message from the system: * The username you entered is not available. Please pick another username. * The email address you entered is already in use or invalid. Please enter another email address. So from the information I have it looks like the registration is pending and only the registration mail was not successfully sent or delivered. My guess will be to check the configuration of mail delivery settings. Another experience is that I did the same as Martin, I put my surname as username. I would expect that this may be also confusing for other users. Vaclav On 04/11/2012 10:11 PM, Martin Naylor wrote: Hello, Came straight through for me.. Although I put my username as my surname and cannot change it :) Cheers Martin -Original Message- From: osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org [mailto:osg-users-boun...@lists.openscenegraph.org] On Behalf Of Robert Osfield Sent: 11 April 2012 20:41 To: OpenSceneGraph Users Subject: Re: [osg-users] Building new website, assistance appreciated! Hi Paul and Jason, If you haven't received the registration email by tomorrow I should be able to enable registration myself or simply add you. However, if you are having problems now then there is good chance a chunk of the rest of the community will have problems too so it'd be good to get to the bottom of it. Robert. ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org ___ osg-users mailing list osg-users@lists.openscenegraph.org http://lists.openscenegraph.org/listinfo.cgi/osg-users-openscenegraph.org