Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 4:53:23 AM UTC-7, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 12:56:02PM -0700, OA wrote: 
> >??? I can't set intermediate destinations (all of them replaces my actual 
> >destination, see lot of examples above) 
>
> You've been shown, in great detail, in this list, with annotated 
> images, how to add an intermediate destination in Osmand.  Most 
> recently in this post: 
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?_escaped_fragment_=msg/osmand/8FXPXP0Ik5w/gJxsvEhlBwAJ#!msg/osmand/8FXPXP0Ik5w/gJxsvEhlBwAJ
>  
> and yet you continue to complain that it does not work for you. 
>
> The fact that you still can't do this, even after being shown how in 
> step by step detail, implies that the problem is with you, and not 
> Osmand. 
>
> Oh, really? You did not say how to make route using favorites from "My 
Places". And that's where I keep all my intermediate destinations. It's 
much more convenient to keep all of them in one place rather than adding it 
one by one.by tapping on '+' sign... But that's exactly when the problem 
happens - tapping on DIRECTIONS button taken from my favorites waypoint 
replaces my actual destination with that point :( Try it and let me know 
how it work (or not) for you.

 

> >??? I can't hear its prompts at all, making it impossible to use while 
> I'm 
> >riding my bike 
>
> Make certian that voice prompts are turned on in the route display screen. 
>   
> If I remember correctly, the upgrade to either 3.4.3 or 3.4.4 via. F-Droid 
> turned voice prompting off, and I had to turn them back on again.   
> There was also a post in this group not long ago about changes in 
> preferences storage and needing to verify that settings were migrated 
> properly. 
>
>
Preferences storage now is by default located on my phone, not on SD card 
(as it was before). So, is it correct place of what?

And how you do set your voice prompts on?

My way is - go to "Settings | Navigation settings | Driving | Navigation 
preferences | Announce.."
And there I have all of these checked:
• Street names
• Traffic warnings
• Speed limit
• Track waypoints
and some others too.

And in "Arrival announcement" it's set to "Normal".
Neither of those prompts I can hear...

So my question to you - how did you do "turn them back on again"?

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 7:57:10 PM UTC-7, Xavier wrote:
>
> >My OsmAnd has version 3.4.4 (released 2019-07-15). And in 
>
>this version, it starts routing immediately when I press on DIRECTIONS 
> >button (on right bottom corner) 
>
> No, I'm referring to DIRECTIONS (which is on the right bottom corner, see 
my picture Image-2.png) posted earlier. The "Start" button in my version of 
OsmAnd is located as second button from the left after Menu button. The 
"Start" button has an black arrow directed to the right. As I mentioned 
earlier, I have to tap on "Start" just to set my destination (Home). The 
problem occurs when I try to add intermediate destinations taken from 
Favorites menu. Instead of offering menu to set first or last intermediate 
destination, it immediately starts navigation to that point. I do not even have 
a chance to set any intermediate destination at all :(
 

> See the annotation in Image-1-annotated.png.  If by "bottom right 
> corner" you refer to the button labeled "Start", then the action you 
> are seeing is exactly the intent.  That button is the "Start 
> navigation" button (which is why the label is "Start"). 
> >anymore... 
>
See my explanation a couple of lines above.
 

> >:( So, I don't even have a chance to set an intermediate destination 
> 1) Add your intermediate destinations before you touch the "Start" 
>button. 
>
> 2) After you touch start and have started navigation, touch the 
>"navigation" button (bottom left, icon is a blue arrow that looks 
>much like the "your present position" arrow on the map when 
>navigation.  A dialog will then open, which contains an identical 
>"+" button as highlighted in green on Image-1-annotated.png.   
>Touching that "+" button brings up the "add intermediate" dialog 
>screen. 
>
> Thanks for Image-1-annotated.png image :) I don't have any chance to see 
it. Navigation starts immediately after I press DIRECTIONS button, 
replacing my actual destination to that specific point. No menu to set any 
intermediate destinations  :(
 

> You have to do one of two things: 
>
> >Be careful and do not update to that version, unless you want to 
> >experience my problem too... 
>
> I won't be experiencing the problem, because I'm telling you exactly 
> how to fix the problem.  Touch the correct control button, and you will 
> no longer have this problem.  That correct control button being the 
> one highlighted in green on the attached Image-1-annotated.png. 
>
> Don't have a chance to see this picture... Navigation starts immediately.

So, now it's just one way navigation by OsmAnd. And it doesn't work at all! 
I used to prepare my route (including multiple destinations) at home. Then 
drive to those points, pressing Pause button and, after I'm done there, 
continue the rest of the trip as planned. Now I have to set one way 
destination, then sit in my car and set another destination. Then repeat 
this process again and again. Frankly I don't have time or will to do so. 
That's why I've said  - I stopped using OsmAnd as my navigation tool :(

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 2:47:18 PM UTC-7, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 02:24:32PM -0700, OA wrote: 
> >On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 6:56:56 PM UTC-7, Xavier wrote: 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 03:36:17PM -0700, OA wrote: 
> >> >Today I've updated OsmAnd to 3.4.4 (released 2019-07-15). and it 
> >> continues 
> >> >It's completely useless now :( 
> >> 
> >> I have attached four images. 
> >> 
> > Thank you for your 4 images! 
>
> You are welcome. 
>
> >I do not add intermediate destination every time I use OsmAnd.  I 
> >always use my Favorites to set intermediate destinations.  I keep set 
> >of my favorite destinations in one place.  When I need to set a new 
> >route, I go there, tap on the destination and ...  OsmAnd immediately 
> >starts navigation, replacing my destination with that one taken from 
> >Favorites...  :( That's completely different from what I used before. 
>
> I do not see that behavior with the slightly older version that is 
> still on F-Droid.  Going to favorites and picking one takes me to the 
> location of the favorite, but does not start a navigation.  I have to 
> tab a "directions" button to begin a navigation to the selected 
> favorite. 
>
> Good for you! I don't have F-Droid to install the old version of OsmAnd.
You are the second (actually, the first one) poster, who recommends to use 
F-Droid to install an old version of OsmAnd in parallel to my existing 
version (3.4.4, released 2019-07-15). How does this work? Will it interfere 
with my old version? Where it will be installed now? If in the same 
location, then it will definitely brake my existing installation... And I 
don't want that to happened.
 

> >As I've mentioned above, there is no way for me to see "first or last" 
> >intermediate destinations in menu. OsmAnd starts navigation right away... 
>
> Then don't try to set an intermediate destination via that method 
> anymore.  Use the method of going to favorites and tapping a favorite 
> as a quick way to set a final destination. 
>

> >It just starts navigation immediately :( 
>
> Given the changes made, it stands to reason that you'll need to change 
> slightly how you insert your destination and intermediate entries into 
> OsmAnd. 
>

 I don't see any dialog for setting first or last intermediate 
destinations. My OsmAnd has version 3.4.4 (released 2019-07-15). And in 
this version, it starts routing immediately when I press on DIRECTIONS 
button (on right bottom corner) :( So, I don't even have a chance to set an 
intermediate destination anymore... Be careful and do not update to that 
version, unless you want to experience my problem too...
As a result I stopped using my OsmAnd as my navigation tool :(

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 10:11:24 PM UTC-7, Pere Pujal i Carabantes 
wrote:
>
> Hi, to debug weird things like this, it would be useful if you do some 
> tests:
> If your version of osmand is the + one, then install the free one, 
> download a small map and test the behavior you describe there.
> If it performs right, then the problem must be somewere on your osmand+ 
> installation(settings, maps, plugins, permissions...), instead, if the 
> problem persists, then it points to some sort of problem between osmand and 
> your phone or android version.=
>
> If the version of osmand you have is the free one, you should be able to 
> install the ~ one from the versions button on osmand or from f-droid.
>
> The key is to have 2 different versions in paralel and be able to compare 
> between them.
>
> @Pere Pujal, thank you!
Perhaps it's a good way to debug the problem. But I don't have OsmAnd+ and 
I don't have F-Droid installed too. So, I can't use this method to find out 
if current version of OsmAnd has a bug or not... 
 

> Note: I've tried to reproduce your problem on my phone but everything 
> works fine here despite the different settings I've tried, 
> I allways get the dialog you miss where you offered to replace the 
> destination, set the point as first waypoint, last waypoint or add as last 
> destination. I have no clue on what can cause that dialog to be missed :(
>
> Well, good for you :)
I don't see any dialog for setting first or last intermediate destinations. 
My OsmAnd has version 3.4.4 (released 2019-07-15). And in this version, it 
starts routing immediately when I press on DIRECTIONS button (on right 
bottom corner) :( So, I don't even have a chance to set an intermediate 
destination anymore...
As a result I stopped using my OsmAnd as a navigation tool :(

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 6:56:56 PM UTC-7, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 03:36:17PM -0700, OA wrote: 
> >Today I've updated OsmAnd to 3.4.4 (released 2019-07-15). and it 
> continues 
> >to be useless as all previous versions :( I can not add any intermediate 
> >destination without resetting my own destination (Home)... 
> >As you've asked, I made 3 screenshots depicting how it works: 
> >... 
> >It's completely useless now :( 
>
> I have attached four images. 
>
> Thank you for your 4 images!
 

> Image-1.png shows some basic instructions, and is the initial starting 
> setup for adding destinations and intermediate destinations. 
>
> The pale yellow highlight shows the areas of the user interface to 
> touch to activate the various portions, and the black text and black 
> lines defines what each of the three pale yellow areas performs. 
>
> So, starting from Image-1.png, I first touch "From: My Postion" area, 
> and pick a starting location (in this case, it is a map marker that I 
> have named "Start". 
>
> I do not add intermediate destination every time I use OsmAnd. I always 
use my Favorites to set intermediate destinations. I keep set of my 
favorite destinations in one place. When I need to set a new route, I go 
there, tap on the destination and ... OsmAnd immediately starts navigation, 
replacing my destination with that one taken from Favorites... :( That's 
completely different from what I used before.
 

> Second, I then touch the "To: Select Destination" yellow area, and pick 
> the same map marker (Start) a second time.  These two selections result 
> in Image-2.png, where both the From and To locations are the same spot 
> on the map (the "Start" map marker). 
>
> As I've mentioned above, there is no way for me to see "first or last" 
intermediate destinations in menu. OsmAnd starts navigation right away...
 
Fourth, I again touch the "+" area highlighted on Image-1.png, and pick 

> a second map marker named "Intermediate 2".  The result is shown in 
> Image-4.png.  Note, I now have two intermediate destinations, and 
> OsmAnd has not reset my final destination (it remains "Start", exactly 
> where I had initially set it when first reaching Image-2.png). 
>
> How do these steps differ from how you have been attempting to add 
> intermediate destinations and finding your final destination reset? 
>

Why I have to add a second map marker? I always use my Favorites to add 
(and keep) all my intermediate destinations. But OsmAnd has stopped 
offering menu, where I can set intermediate destinations (first and last 
one).  It just starts navigation immediately :(

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 4:01:49 PM UTC-7, J Albrecht wrote:
>
> Works like a proverbial charm over here. As I expect if does for everybody 
> else if they set intermediate and final destinations properly. This adverb 
> does not seem to apply to you. Re-read the instructions and everything that 
> has been posted here and try again. Eventually, regardless of how “useless” 
> your current attempts have been, you should get it right!
>
> *@*J Albrecht, * t*hank you for your completely "useless" reply :(
Instead of helping, you're referring to an instruction... And your advice 
to try it again doesn't hold the water. I've tried it many, many times with 
exactly the same result. Instead of telling us how to set intermediate 
destinations (first and last one), you're just telling - try it again...


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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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Yesterday I've installed the latest  3.4.3 (released 2019-07-12). And I 
can't use it at all. Every time I try to add a new intermediate destination 
(tap on "DIRECTION" button, at right bottom corner), it resets my own 
destination to that location and immediately starts calculate the route to 
it :(  I can not set any route, except just in one direction - from my home 
to that location WTF? Then, when I arrive to that location, I have to set 
to back it to home... C'mon guys, instead of fixing the obvious problem, 
you completely fuc**d up the whole navigation now :(

On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 8:02:58 PM UTC-7, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 07:25:19PM -0700, OA wrote: 
> > Today OsmAnd has updated itself to 3.4.2 (released 2019-07-10). 
> I do not yet have that version, so I can't comment on what it is doing.  
>
>Unfortunately this version is worse, than its predecessor... As usual, I 
>set destination - Home. Then no matter what I do, it always reset its 
>destination from Home to my first intermediate destination as my actual 
>destination. :(  And no matter what I do, the result is ALWAYS the same - 
>it changes destination... WTF??? 

I suggest do not install any recent versions as it's impossible to use them 
at all. See the problem above...

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Friday, July 12, 2019 at 6:15:00 AM UTC-7, Xavier wrote:
>
> For myself, I've prepared routes in OsmAnd ahead of time, and when I've 
> used the "show home screen" button (or the "show running apps" button 
> and then picking another running app) I've never experienced the 
> prepared route disappearing in OsmAnd. 
>
> That;s a good advice. Thanks! I'll keep that in mine next time :)
 

> >But this time, OsmAnd ALWAYS set destination to my first intermediate 
> >waypoint, resetting my actual destination (Home). 
>
> Today OsmAnd has updated itself to 3.4.2 (released 2019-07-10). 
Unfortunately this version is worse, than its predecessor... As usual, I 
set destination - Home. Then no matter what I do, it always reset its 
destination from Home to my first intermediate destination as my actual 
destination. :(  And no matter what I do, the result is ALWAYS the same - 
it changes destination... WTF??? 

This is the part where you are performing a very unique method of 
> routing. 
>
What's unique about it? I did it many times before and it always worked 
well. But now, when I tap on "DIRECTIONS" button (right bottom corner) 
there is no any menu asking to set is it as "first intermediate 
destination" or "last intermediate destination". Now, it sets destination 
to that waypoint all the time...
Do you know how to get that menu back?
 

> >Sitting in my car, I tried it again and again.  Perhaps after 20th 
> >attempt I gave up, ending without any route...  I drove my car without 
> >OsmAnd instructions :( 
>
And now it's even worse. I can't get to menu offering  "first intermediate 
destination" or "last intermediate destination". 
 

> But, could you not have simply routed to each end point as a 
> "destination", then at the last end point, asked OsmAnd to route you 
> home from that location? 
>
 There is no way to do it. It always sets new destination to intermediate 
destination...
 

> Maybe try inputting the final 'stop' just prior to returning home as 
> your initial destination, then adding additional waypoints if you are 
> setting up a route through several stops, then inserting 'home' as an 
> absolute final destination last.  That way at least OsmAnd always has 
> at least one location that is away from your present location ('home') 
> so it will not think the route is over before it has begun. 
>
See my answer above. 

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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This story has continuation... After setting the route I exited OsmAnd by 
pressing "Back" button on my phone. Then, when I was sitting in the car and 
ready to start my trip, I opened OsmAnd and it asked me to set my 
destination... I thought, that I was already prepared my route. No, not at 
all. And I had to repeat all the steps (see my post above) again.
But this time, OsmAnd ALWAYS set destination to my first intermediate 
waypoint, resetting my actual destination (Home). Sitting in my car, I 
tried it again and again. Perhaps after 20th attempt I gave up, ending 
without any route... I drove my car without OsmAnd instructions :(
So, the lesson from this experience:
1. OsmAnd can't keep its old route, created just a moment ago
2. OsmAnd is unreliable as a navigation tool. It may reset my actual 
destination (in most cases it's Home) to an intermediate waypoint every 
time I try to add it. And it repeats doing it again and again and again... 
As a result you may end up driving without any instructions, coming from 
OsmAnd :(

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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Today is June, 11.
What is the point of setting destination for every route? As I've said 
earlier, I always start my trip from home and and it at home. In the latest 
version of OsmAnd I have to add this destination all the times I start it. 
It works this way:
1. Start OsmAnd and click on Navigate button
2. In history tap on Home
3. It immediately starts creating new route, offering "Dismiss" or "Start" 
buttons
4. If I press on "Start" button, it announces - "You have reached your 
destination Home"
5. I have to click on "Back" button in Android to continue making my route
6. Then tap on Menu button (left bottom corner) and choose "My Places" 
button
7. Then I have to choose my first intermediate destination
And OsmAnd sets new destination without offering any menu to set first 
intermediate destination :(
8. I have to click on Menu button again, go to "My Places" and at the 
bottom right corner tap on "Directions" button. Then I have to choose 
"Replace the destination" button again :( WTF?
9. Then the story continues again (see p.4)
10. And again, it resets the destination and I have to repeat from 4 to 9...
11. Only after I have repeated from 4 to 9 five times it finally offered me 
menu to set first intermediate destination as it should...
What is the point of this dumb design???
Developers, I'm begging you, please return back to old fashioned design, 
when I can set my destination once and for all my trips. As I mentioned 
earlier, I always start my trip from home and and it at my home (don't you 
do the same?). There is no need to reset my destination all the times I 
start OsmAnd...

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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Today (April, 29) I've got precisely the same case. After creating route 
with several (3) intermediate destinations, OsmAnd asked me to set 
destination again :(

What about this new obsession - to reset destination every time possible? 
Did I asked for it? Of cause not... Then why it tries to reset my 
destination every time I start it?

This time I'm using OsmAnd v.3.3.8. My destination is always my home! 
Please stop asking for resetting all the times. Is there any way to make it 
happen?

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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Today (April, 29) I've got precisely the same case. After creating route 
with several intermediate destinations (3), And OsmAnd asked me to set 
destination again :(

What about this new obsession - to reset destination every time possible? 
Did I asked for it? Of cause not... Then why it tries to reset my 
destination every time I start it?

This time I'm using OsmAnd v.3.3.8. My destination is always my home! 
Please stop asking for resetting all the times. Is there any way to make it 
happen?

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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Today I've got yet another "Resetting destination" accident. I've created 
route, that included 2 intermediate destinations. I closed OsmAnd. Then I 
reopened it again and it showed that the track is just fine. I repeated it 
several times.

But when I tried to start navigation, it asked me to set "destination"... 
WTF? It already knows my destination (home). I had to repeat setting the 
track again from the scratch. But then, when I started using it, I've got 
one way route to the second "intermediate destination".

Why is that? There was no dialog asking to reset destination. It just did 
it by itself :(

So, why the latest OsmAnd 3.3.7 is resetting my destination by itself?

Is there any way to make it to ask me before it changes destination?

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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OK, today I had bad experience with latest 3.3.7. When I opened my old GPX 
file, highlighted it on map and asked it to use it as my new route, it 
demanded (it's not just insisting, there is no way to bypass it) to set my 
destination. BTW, that old GPX truck (I used it many times to navigate with 
my bike) knows very well where the destination is... Now I have to set a 
new destination to my home. But then, when I started it, it immediately 
says: "You have reached your destination - home" :( 
 
I tried to use it when I've moved away from my home, but it always tried to 
navigate me back to the home. I had to completely stop my navigation, 
because it just wasted my phone battery and use my notes, that I've made a 
day before as my new navigation...

This makes OsmAnd 3.3.7 COMPLETE USELESS as a navigation tool!

I tried to install and use prior version too. I've installed OsmAnd 3.2.1 
and tried to use it. At it installation it removed:

*.odb -- all map files
rendering -- folder with my rendering (except default.render.xml)
tracks-- folder with my tracks (copy whole folder)
OA-- my folder with my rendering styles

And then I had to copy of those files back to its folder :(

When I tried to use it, 3.2.1 was waking up at every announcement (can't 
keep screen off) and crashed, when I tried to make a route for bike...

That's when I decided to update it to the latest 3.3.7. But then I can't 
use it neither (see above)...

As I've said, I used OsmAnd as my primary navigation tool for many years 
and it's been working well (I just load my old GPX file and just use it), 
but not anymore. It's become impossible to use it now :(

To developers - please, please fix that navigation problem with resetting 
destination!

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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OK, today I had bad experience with 3.3.7. When I opened my old GPX file, 
highlighted it on map and asked it to use it as my new route, it demanded 
(it's not just insisting, there is no way to bypass it) to set my 
destination. BTW, that old GPX truck (I used it many times to navigate with 
my bike) knows very well where the destination is... Now I have to set a 
new destination to my home. But then, when I started it, it immediately 
says: "You have reached your destination - home" :(  
I tried to use again it when I've moved away from my home, but it always 
tried to navigate me back to home. I had to completely stop my navigation, 
because it just wasted my phone battery and use my notes, that I've made 
day before before as my new navigation...

This makes OsmAnd 3.3.7 COMPLETE USELESS as a navigation tool!

I tried to install and use prior version too. I've installed OsmAnd 3.2.1 
and tried to use it. At it installation it removed:

*.odb -- all map files
rendering -- folder with my rendering (except default.render.xml)
tracks-- folder with my tracks
YO-- my folder with my rendering styles

And then I had to copy of those files back to its folder :(

When I tried to use it 3.2.1 was waking up at every announcement (can't 
keep screen off) and crashed, when I tried to make a route for bike...

That's when I decided to update it to the latest 3.3.7. But then I can't 
use it neither (see above)...

As I've said, I used OsmAnd as my primary navigation tool for many years 
and it's been working well (I load my old GPX file and just use it), but 
not anymore. It's become impossible to use OsmAnd as navigation tool now :(

To developers - please, please fix that navigation problem with resetting 
destination!

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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OK, today I had bad experience with 3.3.7. When I opened my old DPX file, 
highlighted it on map and asked it to use it as my new route, it demanded 
(it's not just insisting, there is no way to bypass it) to set my 
destination. BTW, that old GPX truck (I used it many times to navigate with 
my bike) knows very well where the destination is... Now I have to set a 
new destination to my home. But then, when I started it, it immediately 
says: "You have reached your destination - home" :(  
I tried to use it when I've moved from my home, but it always tried to 
navigate back to home. I had to completely stop my navigation, because it 
just wasted my phone battery. And use my notes, that I've made before as my 
new navigation...

This makes OsmAnd 3.3.7 COMPLETE USELESS as a navigation device!

I tried to install and use prior version too. I've installed OsmAnd 3.2.1 
and tried to use it. At it installation it:

*.odb -- all map files
rendering -- folder with my rendering (except default.render.xml)
tracks-- folder with my tracks
YO-- my folder with my rendering styles

And then I had to copy of those files back to its folder :(

When I tried to use it 3.2.1 was waking up at every announcement (can't keep 
screen off) and crashed, when I tried to make a route for bike...


That's when I decided to update it to the latest 3.3.7. But then I can't use it 
neither (see above)...

As I've said, I used OsmAnd as my primary navigation tool for many years and 
it's been working well (I load my old GPX file and just use it), but not 
anymore. It's become impossible to use it now :(

Please, please fix that weird navigation problem!

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Re: Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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On Thursday, March 21, 2019 at 12:59:51 AM UTC-7, Peter B wrote:
>
> https://download.osmand.net/releases/
> https://download.osmand.net/night-builds/

Thanks a lot @Peter B. I don't have paid version. I suppose, that all apps 
in that list are free versions. Am I wrong?

Today I've encountered (a second day in a row, BTW) the problem with 
setting destination in OsmAnd. When I set destination to my home and try to 
set intermediate destinations, I'm always end up with getting one way trip 
:(. WTF? I did it very carefully. But when I try to set next intermediate 
destination, it always resets my "home" destination to that intermediate 
point. This functionality is completely broken now...

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Keeping destination in OsmAnd

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With latest 3.3.6 OsmAnd I've noticed, that app stopped using the last used 
destination point I used before I close it. Why is that? I always use my 
"Home" as my final destination. Driving to work, then returning to home. 
Driving to shop, than returning to home again... All of my navigation are 
around the "home".  Now, when I launch OsmAnd, I noticed that it doesn't 
offer that old destination and I have to set new destination all the time  
:( This becomes a big inconvenience for me comparing to the old versions of 
the program.
How to make OsmAnd to keep destination from the previous sessions?
If there is no way to do so, where I can find old versions of OsmAnd? I'm 
willing to return back to some old version if it's what I need to do to get 
this convenient functionality back...

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Turning off screen automatically

[OA]

In the latest OsmAnd version 3.3.3 I can't find option "Turn screen on", 
which I always set to 10 sec. I found it very useful and helpful in saving 
battery. It looks like this useful functionality was removed from the 
latest builds :( 
Anyone see the same?
If it's still there, how to find it now?

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Re: OsmAnd Energy (Battery) options -using a screen on/off timer

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On Tuesday, January 15, 2019 at 10:57:54 AM UTC-8, Xavier wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:49:08AM -0800, Westerhüser Salbker wrote: 
> >I would like make a proposal for longer battery lifetime => using screen 
> >on/off timer. 
> > 
> >This method is generally applied for long time in locus map. 
> >https://www.locusmap.eu/wp-content/uploads/bikenavi9.png 
> > 
> >"turn on when notified a track/point/navigation" 
> > 
>
> Menu -> Navidation settings -> (pick a profile) -> Turn screen on 
>
>
Using latest v3.3.3 I can't find that option anymore...
I remember it was in section "Navigation preferences" after "Speed limit 
tolerance" setting... Now it's not there. What do you guys see there? Is it 
still there or not?

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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I got it working by switching the renderer! :)

My fault was - I did not point to specific renderer in order to make it 
work. Now I know that I have to do 2 things:
1. put my rendering file into rendering folder
2. choose it in "Map style" menu
The second step is very important!

Thanks a lot, @Majka! Your input was very helpful here :)

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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Thank you, Majka.

I have OsmAnd 3.1.5, released 2018-08-10 on my phone and there is no 
TryFirst item between Touring view and UniRS. Should I try something else 
instead?

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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On Wednesday, September 12, 2018 at 12:19:12 PM UTC-7, Majka wrote:

> Then recreate the file! You need both, the original one and either of 
> those provided here as attachment. You need both in the correct folder. 
> Do not touch anything else, do not change a bit, no editing, no renaming. 
> Simply recreate the file from the app and put the new there as well. 
> Restart Osmand, select the additional renderer, done. 
>
> It should work, there is nothing else to do. 
>

I recreated default.render.xml file, put your file into rendering folder. I 
did not change anything even a bit. Then I restarted OsmAnd and it did not 
change its default rendering...

Restart Osmand, select the additional renderer, done.
>
> How to select it? 
 

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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What settings are bad from my previous installation? I'd like to check all 
of them, one by one, if that's the problem. Restoring old settings with 
Titanium backup is needed to save me couple of hours on writing down all 
old settings (which as you said could contain some problems) and then 
setting all of them back again. So, if the settings are the problem, I'd 
appreciate any specific instructions on where to look at.

Rendering folder contains only two files:
  default.render.xml
  TryFirst.render.xml

As I mentioned earlier I can get initial default.render.xml file at any 
time by removing it from the folder and then running OsmAnd. It will 
re-create the file immediately. So, it's guaranteed that it's native 
default file coming from OsmAnd and not changed in any way. The second file 
is working well for two participants of this thread. So, it should not be a 
problem too.



On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 10:58:27 PM UTC-7, Majka wrote:
>
> No wrong again, you have just overwritten the correct installation with 
> your BAD non working settings back - you have nullified the whole reason 
> for reinstall by this.
> You have to keep the rendering folder as installed. Do it again, but 
> before restoring your settings copy the folder AS INSTALLED somewhere else. 
> Restore your settings, copy the content of the folder AS INSTALLED back . 
> Put one of the provided files into the same folder without changing 
> anything . Done. 

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 6:02:28 PM UTC-7, A Thompson wrote:
>
> If you're confident that you know how to backup and restore any personal 
> data that you care about (favourites, gox tracks, etc) then the easiest 
> thing would be to do a clean-reinstall (you said that the problem appeared 
> when you updated to 3.1 and I can't replicate it). But if you're not 
> confident about that then you'd be causing more trouble for yourself, and 
> I'd wait for the next official update to see if that installation fixes 
> your problem.
>
> With sympathy ;-)
> A.
>

Thank you. In a desperate attempt to fix the problem I've decided to 
re-install OsmAnd. That's what I did:
1. I've synched two folders:
  SDCard\osmand
  Phone\Android\data\net.osmand\files
2. I made backup with Titanium Backup
3. Uninstalled OsmAnd
4. Installed OsmAnd back again
5. I've synched back two folders (see p.1)
6. Restored backup data with Titanium Backup (to see my local maps)

When I tried to make route, the track shown is wider than the street 
itself... :(

I have to edit default rendering file again to make it work. I just hope 
for a new version of OsmAnd to have it fixed. Otherwise, I'll have to edit 
default rendering file again and again :(

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Re: Custom rendering in 3.1

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First of all, thank you for trying to help!

I've just tried your files:
1. I removed default.render.xml file and all my files from rendering folder.
2. I put your TryFirst.render.xml file there
3. I started OsmAnd to see if it changed anything. It did not
4. I cleared cache from OsmAnd
5. I put your TrySecond.render.xml file into the folder
6. Started OsmAnd again and I don't see the change

Perhaps I'm doing something wrong, but with those two files I still see 
wider track... And even worse I don't know what to try next.

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Custom rendering in 3.1

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I always use my own rendering, correcting width of navigation track. It's 
too wide to my taste, the track covers the whole street and I always reduce 
its default width so I can see it inside streets. It was done by creating 
small file AnyName.render.xml that I put in OsmAnd folder. Content of the 
file is very simple:

  

  

  


It worked very well until OsmAnd was updated to 3.1. Now it doesn't see my 
file, leaving me with only option - edit default.render.xml. First of all, 
it's inconvenient - the file is big (currently 645 KiB). And second, every 
new update overwrites this file. So, I have to go through the hassle of 
editing it again and again...

Is this useful functionality gone now?

Can somebody who's using custom rendering advice how to make it work again?

Thank you

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Re: Location of map files

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Yes, this functionality is very important. And I'm not going to put my 
favorites on the cloud... I need to keep it in a local storage only.

I've tried to rename MyFavs.gpx to favorites.gpx and put it into two 
folders (both have favorites.gpx files):

/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/

/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files


But it did not help. OA doesn't see my favorites... Then suddenly, after 
many attempts, it offered me to import file from local storage (phone or 
SD). And I suxxessfully imported my MyFavs.gpx file to OA :) Yes, the 
import function in OA is flaky (at best). This time I was lucky... Next 
time I'll try to open my file by tapping on it and selecting to open it 
with OA. May be it'll be easier...

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Re: Location of map files

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@ Majka, thank you for your attention to the issue and your suggestions.

I tried to move my maps into this folders:

/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files  (maps)
/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files/tracks   (tracks)


And OsmAnd found my map files (.OBF) and my tracks (.GPX). As I've 
mentioned, all my previous attempts to point to my folder in  "*Settings | 
Global app settings | Misc | Data storage folder*" failed... It's look like 
the functionality has been removed from the app. :( Yet another problem, 
that I've noticed with it is, it doesn't see my favorites, even if I put 
MyFavs.gpx into files folder. And there is no way to import favorites from 
local storage or SD... I guess it's jut yet another lost functionality 
removed from OsmAnd lately. :(

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Location of map files

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I'm trying to move OsmAnd from old Samsung Note 2 to new Note 4 phone and 
stuck with this problem...

I have microSD card from my old phone, that contains all my map files 
(.OBF), my tracks (.GPX), my rendering files, etc. When I put it in new 
phone, OsmAnd refuses to use my files. In "*Settings | Global app settings 
| Misc | Data storage folder*" I can set some data folder, but it's not the 
folder containing all my files. I can set folders 
"/storage/emulated/0/Android/data/net.osmand/files" (in phone itself, it's 
called "External storage 1") or 
"/storage/-/Android/data/net.osmand/files" (called "External 
storage 2"). OsmAnd doesn't see those files. Just in case, I have copies of 
all my files in two locations: "/phone/osmand" and in "/SD/osmand" folders.

When I try to set manually location to those folders, I'm getting error: 
"Maps could not be created in specified directory"... May be it's because 
"Data storage folder" is used not for maps and tracks, but for temporary 
caches?

How to set the folder, that contains *my* map files, tracks, rendering and 
other common files from my previous setup?

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Making route using waypoints without any announcement

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Today, when I create a new route, I have to use weypoints. Those points are 
needed to tell Osmand how exactly I want to navigate. Usually I add them 
one-by-one as intermediate destinations. But they're not actual waypoints, 
that I want to notice while navigating. They're are just helpers I have to 
use to make new route as I want.

How to make a new route using map points that Osmand will never announce?

I don't need to hear something like "you're arriving at intermediate 
destination XXX" instead of getting timely and useful instruction about 
next direction I should follow. And sometimes Osmand may announce it 5 or 
even more times in a row (perhaps due to a bug). Usually those points sit 
on an intersection and at that time I need to hear where should I go, and 
not that I'm passing a waypoint I used just to make route as I wish...

Having said that, there should be a waypoints I would like to hear 
announcement about. It's when I arrive to a point of *my* interest (don't 
confuse it with other POI). But many times I just need map points, that 
could be used to make route and should never be announced. You may call 
them navigation points, route helpers or something else similar.

Thus, I think Osmand should support two types of points on the map - one, 
that is used just to make specific route (no announcement is needed), and 
another one, that will be announced (preferably with my note that I 
want/need to hear).

Please consider it as a suggestion helping to improve experience using 
Osmand. Thank you :)

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Re: How to edit saved earlier route?

[OA]

Obviously I've misspoken there. It's easy to conclude from the content 
below that word:

> Now, I'm getting a weird problem. When I open GPX file made for navigation 
> by Osmand, I see two tracks overlayed over each other. One is the actual 
> route, made by Osmand, and then I see a route, connecting waypoints 
> directly...
>
 
Now, let's return back to the discussion topic. How can I edit my route, 
saved earlier by Osmand as .GPX file? Is there any way to do it with 
Osmand? Or should I use some another program to do that? In the latter 
case, what app / program could edit that route without braking it for 
Osmand?

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Re: How to edit saved earlier route?

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In this thread I'm not talking about tracks. I'm talking only about a 
route. 

Again, I made a route in Osmand and saved it as .GPX file. I run that route 
and saw, that I need to make some small corrections to it. In order to do 
so I need to open that file again (preferably with Osmand, which created 
it) and make those corrections. I think it's logical to be able to edit 
earlier created route, don't you think? Thus the question - how to do that?

FYI: Osmand saves new routes in .GPX files containing:
1.  segment with lot of  (similar to recorded tracks, but 
without timestamps)
2.  segment with lot of  (route directions)
3. set of  (ordered list of waypoints with sequential relationship 
defining navigation)


@Manfred, I've tried routeconverter (v2.20 from May 13, 2017) and can't use 
it at all. It's extremely slow and unresponsive. I click on its Help menu 
and I have to wait for a half of minute or more for a reaction... :( I have 
fast 8 threads CPU with the latest Java installed (v8 update 131, build 
1.8.0_131-b11). Other Java apps work just fine. I just don't know what 
could be wrong with RouteConverterWindowsOffline.exe file...

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Re: How to edit saved earlier route?

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OK, I got it. OBF-files have a proprietary format, used only by Osmand. And 
in GPSPrune I see map now. Thanks!

Now, I'm getting a weird problem. When I open GPX file made for navigation 
by Osmand, I see two tracks overlayed over each other. One is the actual 
route, made by Osmand, and then I see a route, connecting waypoints 
directly. That route ignores the streets, their turns, etc. If I save this 
GPX file and then open it in Osmand, I see the same overlay again. :( Now 
there are two routes, one is made by Osmand, and another one directly 
connecting waypoints... If in Osmand I open it's own file, I don't see that 
weird problem. There is only one route going along the streets. If I open 
file saved by GPSPrune, there are two routes at the same time.

May be the second route (connecting waypoints directly) will not interfere 
with actual navigation? I don't know. In any case it looks like editing 
route with GPSPrune brakes the file for Osmand...

So, the question remains. Is it possible to edit GPX route made by Osmand 
earlier?

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Re: How to edit saved earlier route?

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On Friday, May 12, 2017 at 7:26:37 AM UTC-7, Kurt Waldhans wrote:
>
> For GPX edits, JOSM is an overkill. Look for dedicated tools like GpsPrune 
> . 
>
Tried to run GpsPrune 
 and immediately 
got first question. How to see navigation route using OSM map on background?

GpsPrune how-to 
 tells:
Using Openstreetmap maps

After loading from a file, the data will be shown on the top-down map view..

 

And I'm puzzled now - where do I have to load map file? What format should 
I use? From what source/URL I have to download it? Etc... For example, I 
have map file that I use with Osmand. It's .OBF file and I put it into 
GpsProne's folder, but it doesn't see the file. How to load it into 
GpsProne? Also, I have .SRTM.OBF file for my area. How can I load it into 
GpsProne too?


The first experience is quite frustrating. Is the desire to see a route on 
OSM background map is so unusual for GpsProne, so there is no easy 
explanation on how to do it?

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Re: How to edit saved earlier route?

[OA]

Thank you Matt for the link. I'm not confident with the idea of uploading 
my personal data to any web sites. Internet is becoming a place, where 
collecting and (re)selling personal data of users to anybody who's willing 
to pay is a rapidly growing business. And I don't want to entourage that 
move.

I'm looking for a way to edit my navigation route locally (and why not?). 
Do you have recommendations how to do it without uploading my data to 
someone I don't know or trust?

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Re: How to edit saved earlier route?

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Osmand saves its new navigation route as .GPX file. I need to edit that 
route later on. How can I do that?

On Wednesday, May 10, 2017 at 1:30:02 AM UTC-7, Manfred wrote:
>
> You do not know the difference between Track (GPX) and Route, do you?
>
> Am Mittwoch, 10. Mai 2017 09:17:36 UTC+2 schrieb OA:
>>
>> You realize that the editing is required to accommodate the prospective 
>> navigation, don't you? At the end I don't care about .GPX file. What I need 
>> is to change the navigation that I've prepared earlier and want to use 
>> now...
>>
>

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Re: How to edit saved earlier route?

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Does anybody know how to do that?

There must be a way to edit it - to change the order of weypoints, to 
change their positions on the map, etc... Without that I have to re-create 
the whole set of waypoints again and that is just stupid...

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Track recording - comparison to "My Tracks"

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I've just tested how Osmand records GPX track. I've started recording my 
walk (8 mi, 2:40) using two apps at the same time: Osmans and My Tracks 
(Google). Osmand has pretty much default settings, which are close to what 
I use with My Tracks as well. 

I usually record all my tracks with My Tracks app. This time I wanted to 
navigate using Osmand, as well as to try to record the track and compare it 
to GPX file, produced by My Tracks app.

To see recorded tracks I use Garmin's MapSource program on PC. It opens GPX 
files made by My Tracks without any problems. But to open GPX files made by 
Osmand I have to edit the file and remove followed tag:


  1.25


To remove it I use an editor, supporting regular expressions, replacing 
strings below with nothing:

 +\n +[0-9]+.[0-9]+\n +\n

(note first space in front).

Here is is what I've noticed:
My Tracks recorded 1488 track points, while Osmand have only 1216 points. I 
see many times when Osmand suddenly missing records in time spans between 
0:30 and 1:45. It happened while My Tracks at exactly the same time still 
collecting track points (they all come from the same source, of course). 
Why is that? I don't know. May be Osmand developers have an answer.

Meanwhile, until Osmand will fix this problem, I'm still going to use My 
Track as a more reliable source of recorded data...

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Bad navigation

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How could I count on Osmand navigation if it could provide such bad 
suggestions?
Here is some of the examples.

1. Making left turn from Woodside Road to Alameda de Las Pulgas with Osmand 
2.6.3. What kind a routing suggestion is this? (Not to mention, it's 
impossible to make)

  Turn sharply right and go 56 m
  
16
TSHR
158.27895
745
  


  Turn sharply right and go Alameda de Las Pulgas 386 m
  
167
TSHR
152.9515
749
Alameda de Las Pulgas
  


  Turn right and go Alameda de Las Pulgas 397 m
  
110
TR
52.742977
762
Alameda de Las Pulgas
  

See picture below:



2. Making right turn form Saratoga Drive to Parking Place: Why one would 
make a circle to the left instead of just turning right? See picture:



3. Making left turn from Franklin Parkway to Saratoga Drive. OsmAnd insists 
to return and then make right turn in 236m... See picture:




4. Making left turn from Parking Place to Saratoga Drive. At this time I 
hear announcement - "Make right turn", which is weird at this point... See 
picture:




5. Making left turn from El Camino Real to Hillsdale and Osmand suggests a 
new weird trick... See picture:




6. Osmand suggests to go in opposite direction in a one way street. And it 
knows it well. See arrows on picture...



All of the examples above were made by default Osmand routing engine 
without any adjustments. And I hope that the navigation app should do a 
better job... Am I asking for something impossible from Osmand?

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Re: Traffic controls - how to map?

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Kevin, have you found a working solution?

Today I was riding my bike and saw a lot of similar problems, mostly with 
'T' streets with STOP sign, connecting to a main street. At many, many 
occasions riding on main street, I heard misleading notifications, like 
"STOP sign is coming"...

I could not believe how such a common case requires so special attention 
for its setup...

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Re: Bike navigation - street announcements

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@Gavin Meredith, thank you for your reply.

On Thursday, April 27, 2017 at 2:19:47 AM UTC-7, Gavin Meredith wrote:
>
> 1)This method takes practice. I have found placing the waypoints further 
> apart gives an insight into how Osmand routes. One can always place 
> intermediate waypoints and then get them in order using “sort door to 
> door”. Yes it is tedious to start off with but one soon learns where to 
> place “strategic” waypoints thus significantly reducing their number.
>
Actually, I've tried this method before a couple years ago. So, I have some 
practice with making waypoints and placing them in strategic positions. But 
in this example with 29.4mi track (a typical recorded track for me) it took 
29 waypoints to make OsmAnd to approximate the old track. And, as I 
mentioned earlier, even with this number of waypoints it has a big 
discrepancy left. The calculated distance for this track now is 38.3mi... 
Even if I personally will ride the track correctly (I know it well), I 
can't give it to anyone else as it will mislead them at some points. OsmAnd 
has it's own opinion on how to navigate comparing to my common sense, if 
you know what I mean. :)
 

> 2) Let Osmand finish calculating a new route after each waypoint is set. 
> If you have set your destination, Osmands routing is not going to be 
> radically different to to your GPX route. Re routing will be quick.
>
Resetting map every time OsmAnd calculates new track (and it does it after 
I enter every new waypoint) makes entering new waypoints quite a 
challenging task. It'd much easier if it allowed me to pause / postpone the 
map resetting. I think it's pretty obvious if you need to enter 29 
waypoints.
 

> 3) “Is there any way to ask OsmAnd to save in .gpx file only my 
> waypoints? It would be a good help…”
>
> No and here lies the problem. Hence the need for the workaround I have 
> described.
>
I think that OsmAnd has problems with its navigation management. It should 
allow users to save entered set of waypoints and save them in a file, load 
it next time when needed, and start navigation using that set. Personally, 
I'd create tens of .GPX files with waypoints for many tracks I'd like to 
use in the future. But until OsmAnd starts supporting that navigation 
management feature I probably will not waste my time...
 

> 4) If you wish to discard all your waypoints to start a new route go to 
> dashboard 
>
> (current route ) and stop navigation. Start a new route by long pressing 
> on your destination.  Live waypoints from your old route are are then 
> deleted
>
It's a nice trick. Thank you! Last time I was removing all 29 waypoints 
one-by-one and it took a while...
 

> 5) At the moment there is no other way to get Osmand to announce street 
> names. Osmands native navigation feature must be used.
>
> As a cycle tourist I use this laborious method as I have found using voice 
> instructions with an imported GPX route to be particularly disappointing. 
> It cannot be relied upon. Getting this work around right, is a significant 
> improvement.
>
Yes, indeed. It'd be nice if OsmAnd just started to name streets during 
navigation with pre-recorder tracks.

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Re: Bike navigation - street announcements

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OK, here is a new problem. As I've mentioned above, I've made track 
containing 29 waypoints. Now, every time I start a new route, it's always 
based on those 29 waypoints.

How to manage it? Is there any way to discard the old route and create a 
new one based on a new set of waypoints? Or do I have to remove all 29 
waypoints now, one by one, and only then I can start a new route?

I need to create a different route now, but the old track is stuck with 
OsmAnd... I stop routing, there is no old 29 waypoints shown (I make sure 
to turn showing them off). Then when I start a new route, OsmAnd 
immediately starts generating that old route, which I don't want to use now.

There should be an easy way to discard the old route, for example by 
clicking on 'X' sign. But it looks like it doesn't work. Why???

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Re: "Parking Position" plugin

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@Max1234Ita, thank you for checking.

I've just tried to install "Parking Position" plugin again. And again I 
can't enable it. Taping on ":" on the right side for plugin produces 
nothing. Other plugins show "Enable" menu item there...

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Re: "Tome to go" - intermediate destination

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90% of the time I'm using OsmAnd with waypoints. What the point to see 
"Time to go" to destination, if I drive to the next waypoint and stay there 
for a while. At that waypoint I may spend 2 min or 2 hours (depending on 
what I need to do there). How in this case "Time to go" could show me any 
correct information? Then I drive to the next waypoint and the story 
repeats again. "Time to go" just shows a misleading time...

If OsmAnd showed "Time to go" to the next point of my journey and not for 
the abstract whole route (which may include many intermediate waypoints, 
BTW), it'd reduce calculations needed for OsmAnd and produce useful info 
for me.

In case if someone doesn't uses waypoints, there is no change in that 
function at all. You'll always have correct time to destination anyway.

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Re: Bike navigation - street announcements

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It's too bad.

Thank you, Gavin. I've just tried to reproduce my old recorded track using 
OsmAnd routing engine and here is my experience:
1. It's a tedious task, that took me about 30 min. I had to add 29 
waypoints manually just to approximate the old track. And it still have 
weird routes in place (see differences below). It's not a big problem 
though, as in this case I know track very well and will ignore its 
misleading instructions...

2. For comparison:
Recorded track: distance - 29.4mi, time - 2:46
Calculated track: distance - 38.3mi, time - 4:31

3. Unfortunately I don't know how to prevent OsmAnd from calculating track 
while I'm still entering my waypoints. It becomes quite difficult to enter 
waypoints, always racing with OsmAnd, which is trying to reset its map 
showing new route ever time it gets a new point... It resets the map and I 
have to go to new way point position, changing zoom and location every time 
it interrupts me :(

4. OsmAnd makes .gpx file even bigger, than my recorded track:
Recorder track: 176.56 KiB
Calculated track: 187.64 KiB
Calculated .gpx includes all points and directions, which is pointless. 
OsmAnd will recalculate it at any time using the way points entered. After 
I manually editing this .gpx file removing all unnecessary info and just 
keeping my waypoints, I finally got what I need:
Waypoints .gpx: 4.76 KiB
Is there any way to ask OsmAnd to save in .gpx file only my waypoints? It 
would be a good help...

Now, regarding OsmAnd not using maps. It's actually does use the map. From 
my past experience using recorded track as a new route I remember, that 
when I deviate form the track, OsmAnd still guide me to that track with 
instructions like "Turn right". It doesn't ask me to turn until I reach an 
intersection. So, it's using the map... But the problem is - it simply 
doesn't announce street names. It'd be really grate if it were announcing 
them while I'm riding my bike :)

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"Parking Position" plugin

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Anybody using this plugin? If you are, what's your experience?

I'd like to try it, by some weird reason I can't activate it with OmAnd 
2.6.3. I can install it just fine (as Android app), but when I try to 
activate it within OsnAmd - I can't do it at all... :(

How can I activate that plugin?

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"Tome to go" - intermediate destination

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There is a good feature in OamAnd - "Tome to go" indicator. You can toggle 
it between elapsed time or time at arrival.

Unfortunately it could be useless in many cases. For example, I always use 
a round trip route (let say from my home to some point(s) and back to my 
home). Then, If I look at that indicator, it shows time of the whole round 
trip, which is always inaccurate, because it doesn't include time I'm going 
to spend at intermediate point(s)... So, in most cases (unless I'm 
returning directly to home) the "Time to go" indicator is useless :(

OsmAnd developers:
Could you please show there time to next destination (usually it's next 
intermediate point) instead of the time for the abstract whole trip? Or at 
least give us an option to set it this way?

Thank you!

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2.5.2 is crashing when I tap on map

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Today OsmAnd app was updated to v2.5.2.

Now, every time I tap on map - it crashes, making *any* navigation 
impossible.

Any suggestions how to make it work again?

Phone details:
Phone: Samsung Note 2
OS: Android 4.4.2
App name, version: OsmAndF~, version 2.5.2

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