Re: Kodak film changes

2002-08-14 Thread Tim S Kemp

 It's a good thing I didn't like Supra 400 and 800. They existed for what
 - two years? I guess it's not a good idea to develop a liking for any of
 Kodak's C-41 films. They don't seem to last long.

Supra 400 is my fave film for photos of the indoors of building projects
with available artificial light. Other than that I can't understand it
either.
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RE: Pentax Polarizers:Circular or Linear

2002-08-14 Thread Paris, Leonard

Have you shot any tests with the polarizer(s) you have, or are you unable to
bring yourself to risk a few exposures without a consensus from the group?

Len
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Subject: Pentax  Polarizers:Circular or Linear


  Hi Guys..
Article in this month's PopPhoto implies that SLR metering and/or 
autofocus
  systems may be inaccurate with LINEAR polarizers in place..I dont use
  autofocus enuf to care, but does anyone know if an SF-10 or ZX-7 exposure
  meter will get compromised by the (far less expensive and already in my
bag)
  linears. ?
 Thanx,
   Bob G.
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Re: Lenses in the field

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Good morning, Peter,

What distinction do you hang on the word true, in true macro.
Must be a subtlety there that I'm not aware of. Or, more 
likely, I've forgotten it's accepted meaning.  g

Peter Smekal wrote:
 
 Thanks guys for all these very constructive ideas.
 It seems to boil down to:
 24/2.8 + 85/2 + tripod. No 50/1.4, no 135/3.5, no winder. The flash I own
 is the AF280T, and it seems it will have to stay at home too.
 The only thing I have not been able to make up my mind about yet is the
 35-105 zoom. Of course it is rather heavy and big. It even looks that way.
 Its definitely not unobtrusive. But I like it as a walking-around lense.

Seeems to me, if you plan to be taking photos not exactly related to
your original quest, and you will be able to stand the weight and
bulk, have at it! Having a lens with you with which you're totally
familiar is always useful...

Here's something to think about, however...if you've tested that zoom
well enough to be quite satisfied with it's performance capabilities,
maybe you don't really need that 85/2? If you're really reducing bulk...
You will be sacrificing the f/2.0 speed of the 85, but if you can/will
use the tripod, maybe even that doesn't matter.

 And I like its macro capabilitites. Although it isn't true macro I've
 used it many times to shoot interesting details, like door-knobs, coins,
 stones, fruits, flowers etc ...
 Can anyone talk me out of it?
 
 Peter Smekal
 Uppsala, Sweden
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

keith whaley
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Re: RE: Kodak film changes

2002-08-14 Thread David Brooks

Ya its sad.I was getting some nice results from
the RG 200 and occasionally from the 400.I used
the Max films until i discovered real film:)

Dave
 Begin Original Message 

From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yeah, they're desperately trying to get people to buy Gold Max 
instead of
their nicer Royal Gold film.  They're putting Max in their disposable
cameras; they're giving it away with their point and shoot campact
cameras... Gold Max will probably start falling out of cereal boxes 
pretty
soon.

chris
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Re: ME + 35-135

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Daniel, need some more information here!

Vasile Daniel wrote:
 
 Hi all!
 i've seen this on a romanian bidding site
 the starting price is 150$
 
 i was wondering if someone could give me some information about how
 reliable this model is, 

If you mean the Pentax ME, no problems at all in my opinion. I find it
very sturdy and quite reliable.
I've been using one for some time now, and I'm quite fond of it.

...if it has some known flaws, things like that.

None of which I'm aware.

 it is very tempting to me, but it seems strange that top cover is
 black and in all the pictures seen on the net seems wrong.

That's just because there are not too many black ME bodies around.
They do exist.
I almost bid on one the other day, just to have a black body for
vacation shooting, as mine's chrome, but unfortunately lost it to
someone with more money!  ;^)
 
 i would also like to know if the price is right.

That being a Romanian site, what kind of $ are they? US$, RO$, Euro$?
I am not familiar with Romanian currency, so cannot answer your question.
If it's Euros, the price would be alright. 
Which bring up the question of the lens. Is that an SMC Takumar? I
didn't think they made any.
The image is not quite clear enough to tell. 
If so, I'd say the price is definitely alright.

I assume you have other prime lenses for a manual or K-mount Pentax?
That has nothing to do with the worth of the purchase, just a
question. If you don't, the almost unequaled SMC 50mm f/1.4 is readily
available, and one of the best value purchases you could make. 
 
 in case you wanna see it, the link is:
 
 http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/view_item.php3?LotID=215513
 
 tia
 
 daniel

Good luck,

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Re: Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread David Brooks

LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
in your area :)

Dave

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Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Toys


Good onya, Butch!
The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available 
batteries?

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Re: Lenses in the field

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Oh my! What a difference!
And I thought the lenses for my Retina Reflex III were overly large...

keith whaley

Rob Studdert wrote:
 
 On 14 Aug 2002 at 7:51, Bob Walkden wrote:
 
  I have 2 35/1.4s - one by Leica, the other by Carl Zeiss and it's a
  lesson in the differences between RF and SLR lenses to put them side
  by side. The Leica is tiny, the CZ is enormous.
 
 And just to illustrate Bob's point (as I had the same combo):
 
 http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/35ASPHlux-m_vs_CZ35f1.4_top.jpg
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
 Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: Flip side: Ex: Infinity Focus problem

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Simon King wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 What about a 50mm lens that doesn't quite get to infinity?
 I just went out with Sam (http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~sking/index.htm)
 and found that my f/2 50 paired with my Super Program doesn't focus at
 infinity.

If you don't choose to do anything about it, that's okay, because at
most reasonable apertures, you can set it at a hyperfocal distance to
let the top end go to infinity, and not worry about it. Just have to
remember to do it with that lens...

keith wehaley
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Re: Kodak film changes

2002-08-14 Thread Mark Roberts

Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's because Kodak has deeper pockets than other film producers, and
they do much more research and development work. 

But the pockets are getting shallower and the RD is being cut *way* back.
They've recently shut down several color negative film RD groups. A chemical
engineer friend of mine in Rochester was in one of them. He kept his job but got
moved to a group doing RD on inkjet papers.
I expect to see a lot more consolidation of Kodak's film product line in the
next few years.

-- 
Mark Roberts
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Re: Pentax Polarizers:Circular or Linear

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

C'mon, Leonard, what's wrong with asking an honest question?
Young folks need answers from their elders.
I suspect he's a member of the former, as it's usually they that
exhibit a preference for multiple exclamation points and question
marks... g

keith whaley

Paris, Leonard wrote:
 
 Have you shot any tests with the polarizer(s) you have, or are you unable to
 bring yourself to risk a few exposures without a consensus from the group?
 
 Len
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Pentax  Polarizers:Circular or Linear
 
   Hi Guys..
 Article in this month's PopPhoto implies that SLR metering and/or
   autofocus systems may be inaccurate with LINEAR polarizers in 
   place..I dont use autofocus enuf to care, but does anyone know if 
   an SF-10 or ZX-7 exposure meter will get compromised by the (far less
   expensive and already in my bag) linears. ?
   
  Thanx,
Bob G.
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RE: What's the best way to clean filters?

2002-08-14 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

On the Lens Pen, William Robb wrote:
 I tried using a brand new lens pen to clean the rear element of my
 finder base not long ago.  This is not a product I will use on anything
 I like, ever again.  I was afraid it had wrecked my finder base by
 smearing a grease like substance onto the glass.

Hi Bill,

I've occasionally noticed the same smearing effect when I use a Lens Pen.  I
believe that the grease I see in these cases is actually grease that's
already on the optic.  (If I do a detergent-and-water cleaning on an optic
like that, I find that going back at it with a Lens Pen doesn't introduce
any new grease.)  I don't think these pens are good at removing large
amounts of grease, but I've found that they work pretty well for cleaning
small amounts of grease, and they're pretty convenient in the field -- as
long as you're not trying to clean anything that's ~too~ greasy.  So I guess
I have to qualify my answer.

I wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion about dish detergent and warm
water.  One or two other folks mentioned that as well, and I think someone
even mentioned using a sterile cotton ball along with the soap and water.
That's exactly what I use to clean my 8 diameter telescope mirror, in fact.

I'm curious if you've ever had any luck with glass cleaners like Windex.
I've actually had good luck with this stuff on occasion, and I haven't
noticed any residue if I do it carefully.  I'd be interested to hear anyone
else's experiences.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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On the road again.

2002-08-14 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

I will be working in Ft. Worth, Texas from the 19th through the 23rd of this
month.  Thus I will be free in the evenings.

I will be in San Antonio from the 23rd through the 25th.  I have a friend
who is willing to be a tour guide for me in San Antonio.  She seems to know
her way around the place.

Anyway,  any ideas, suggestions, places to see, places to photograph, eat,
etc., etc., etc., will be greatly appreciated.

Also, any good camera shops around?


Thank you for any information you can send my way,

César
Panama City, Florida
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Re: Aerial photos with a Pentax 6x7

2002-08-14 Thread Albano_Garcia

Yes, he uses a Pentax 67. All photos (except the self portrait, taken with
a T4) are taken with the beast.
Really excellent stuff, IMO. He deserves both covers. He has flight in F16,
F117, etc (see the little bio in the bottom of the page)
Regards

Albano


Is that what he uses?
Outstanding photos...
keith whaley
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Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, William Robb wrote:
 The $64,000 question is, why would you want to scan black and
 white film in the first place?

I can't speak for anyone else, but it was originally because I didn't
think I had room for a wet darkroom, so I opted for a digital darkroom
instead.

However, I never bothered to buy a printer, and now instead I'm waiting
for an enlarger to be sent off to me, instead.



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vivitar 283 0r 285 flash

2002-08-14 Thread wayne

i am looking for a good outdoor landscape flash
are these any good?
thanks
any other suggestions
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Re: Lenses in the field

2002-08-14 Thread MZ3_fella _

I would consider either a 20-35 or 28-70 plus a 100mm macro.  The 20-35 is 
great for interiors but that leaves quite a gap between 35 and 100. Perhaps 
the 20-35, 50 (or 43) and the 100 macro.

Patrick

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OT: New Toy here, too

2002-08-14 Thread Collin Brendemuehl

Picked up a nifty little camera yesterday.
Halina 35X.
Not much to it.  Viewfinder, shutter, aperture.
(But what else is there?)
Looks like a baby Leica.  Cute little item.
Shutter is slow and diaphram is stiff,
so it's just going on a shelf.
Also got a nice ME Super  CPC 28/2.8 macro,
if anyone is interested.

--

Collin Brendemuehl, KC8TKA

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RE: vivitar 283 0r 285 flash

2002-08-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Outdoor landscape ?

I have a 283 Wayne, and it seems to do me just fine for many types of shots
but most of them involve portraits of one type or another.

When you say landscape I seem to envision grand vistas and such at great
distances and I don't know if any flash would be appropriate.  Maybe you
could elaborate ?

If you're just looking for fill flash or a
do-it-all-no-matter-what-camera flash .. then either 283 or 285 will work
great.  Difference being of course that the 285 has the head that can
manually zoom vs the 283 which has no zoom.

Cheers,
Dave


Original Message:
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From: wayne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 22:16:47 +0930
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: vivitar 283 0r 285 flash


i am looking for a good outdoor landscape flash
are these any good?
thanks
any other suggestions
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Re: South African Pentaxers: are you also struggling to get Pentax goods?

2002-08-14 Thread MZ3_fella _

I'm really surprised that you've had trouble getting products - the S.A 
distributor, ISO PHOTO has twice won the Pentax Distributor of the Year 
Award, based largely on astounding market shares. They seem to be (or have 
been) a very dedicated and professional bunch that were willing to do 
anything to expand their business.  Perhaps the problem does not lie with 
them.

Patrick



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Re: PDML UK

2002-08-14 Thread dick graham

For those of us who can't get our hands on the magazine a scan would be nice.

DG



At 01:22 AM 8/14/02 +0200, you wrote:
Right now it's 01:20 AM. Cotty  I have been out looking for the perseids
for a while, but now Cotty's in my kitchen preparing tomorrow's dinner! None
of us have been particularly drunk, but we've had a great time anyway! :-)

Thanks for the offer to scan the article, Rob. But you know, I think I will
try to get my hands on a copy of the magazine itself. I'm pretty sure they
sell it some places here in Oslo too.

Jostein

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From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:35 AM
Subject: RE: PDML UK


  Yeah there was a pic of Jostein on the 400 with Mike on the 600 in the
  background.  There was a little more text in the magazine too, including
  a quote from John Dickens.  I will scan the article if you want?  Is
  Cotty  Alma ther right now?  Glad it all worked out if they are  hope
  Cotty is not getting you all to drunk!  Better still, I hope he is!!!
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Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Artur Ledchowski

Hi,
I've just sold my wife's MZ-7+SMC F 35-80mm f/4-5,6.
Moreover, I've just acquired a Z-1p in very good condition:) *applause*
Since I have an AF500FTZ, I'm even more happy because it'll be a very
powerfull combo.
My MZ-5n goes now to my wife but just for a while, since she cries for an
MZ-6:))
Greetz
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Vs: ME + 35-135

2002-08-14 Thread Raimo Korhonen

ME is a very reliable camera and black ones are rarish. The lens seems to be a Vivitar 
or some such, might be OK.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://www.uusikaupunki.fi/~raikorho

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Lähettäjä: Vasile Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vastaanottaja: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Päivä: 14. elokuuta 2002 9:02
Aihe: ME + 35-135


Hi all!
i've seen this on a romanian bidding site
the starting price is 150$

i was wondering if someone could give me some information about how
reliable this model is, if it has some known flaws, things like that.
it is very tempting to me, but it seems strange that top cover is 
black and in all the pictures seen on the net seems wrong.

i would also like to know if the price is right.

in case you wanna see it, the link is:

http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/view_item.php3?LotID=215513

tia

daniel
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Re: vivitar 283 0r 285 flash

2002-08-14 Thread Ken Archer

FWIW, I have five 283's and I didn't get them all at the same time.  I 
use three of them for slaves.

On Wednesday 14 August 2002 07:46 am, wayne wrote:
 i am looking for a good outdoor landscape flash
 are these any good?
 thanks
 any other suggestions
-- 
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Re: ME + 35-135

2002-08-14 Thread Vasile Daniel

hi all again!

first sorry for the lack of information in my previos post.

first of all yes it is the Pentax ME (the black one)
with a zoom lens 35-135 (that's all the information in the item)
the price is 150USD. 
it is customary in romania that prices are shown in 
USD (euro is not that popular yet).

i only have a spotmatic for now, but i would like a k-mount body and
that seemed interesting. be.

thanx for your answers. 
cya,
daniel
 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:52:37 -0700
 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: ME + 35-135
 
 Daniel, need some more information here!
 
 Vasile Daniel wrote:
  
  Hi all!
  i've seen this on a romanian bidding site
  the starting price is 150$
  
  i was wondering if someone could give me some information about how
  reliable this model is, 
 
 If you mean the Pentax ME, no problems at all in my opinion. I find it
 very sturdy and quite reliable.
 I've been using one for some time now, and I'm quite fond of it.
 
 ...if it has some known flaws, things like that.
 
 None of which I'm aware.
 
  it is very tempting to me, but it seems strange that top cover is
  black and in all the pictures seen on the net seems wrong.
 
 That's just because there are not too many black ME bodies around.
 They do exist.
 I almost bid on one the other day, just to have a black body for
 vacation shooting, as mine's chrome, but unfortunately lost it to
 someone with more money!  ;^)
  
  i would also like to know if the price is right.
 
 That being a Romanian site, what kind of $ are they? US$, RO$, Euro$?
 I am not familiar with Romanian currency, so cannot answer 
 your question.
 If it's Euros, the price would be alright. 
 Which bring up the question of the lens. Is that an SMC Takumar? I
 didn't think they made any.
 The image is not quite clear enough to tell. 
 If so, I'd say the price is definitely alright.
 
 I assume you have other prime lenses for a manual or K-mount Pentax?
 That has nothing to do with the worth of the purchase, just a
 question. If you don't, the almost unequaled SMC 50mm f/1.4 is readily
 available, and one of the best value purchases you could make. 
  
  in case you wanna see it, the link is:
  
  http://www.okazii.ro/catalog/view_item.php3?LotID=215513
  
  tia
  
  daniel
 
 Good luck,
 
 keith whaley
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RE: PDML UK

2002-08-14 Thread Rob Brigham

No problem, will email it to you direct tonight, when I can get to a
scanner.

Anyone else want it let me know...

Rob

 -Original Message-
 From: dick graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 14 August 2002 13:20
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PDML UK
 
 
 For those of us who can't get our hands on the magazine a 
 scan would be nice.
 
 DG
 
 
 
 At 01:22 AM 8/14/02 +0200, you wrote:
 Right now it's 01:20 AM. Cotty  I have been out looking for the 
 perseids for a while, but now Cotty's in my kitchen preparing 
 tomorrow's dinner! None of us have been particularly drunk, 
 but we've 
 had a great time anyway! :-)
 
 Thanks for the offer to scan the article, Rob. But you know, 
 I think I 
 will try to get my hands on a copy of the magazine itself. 
 I'm pretty 
 sure they sell it some places here in Oslo too.
 
 Jostein
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:35 AM
 Subject: RE: PDML UK
 
 
   Yeah there was a pic of Jostein on the 400 with Mike on 
 the 600 in 
   the background.  There was a little more text in the 
 magazine too, 
   including a quote from John Dickens.  I will scan the 
 article if you 
   want?  Is Cotty  Alma ther right now?  Glad it all worked out if 
   they are  hope Cotty is not getting you all to drunk!  Better 
   still, I hope he is!!!
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RE: Pentax Polarizers:Circular or Linear

2002-08-14 Thread Paris, Leonard

There just seems to be no lack of folks that won't try anything on their
own. But the real reason for my question is because today is offically
Curmudgeon Day, at least here in this part of America's Outback. Every
Wednesday is Curmudgeon Day as announced on the 145.11 repeater.  In
appreciation for them naming the day for me, I feel obligated to ask at
least one curmudgeonly question in celebration of the occassion.

73 de KD9S, Len.
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-Original Message-
From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax  Polarizers:Circular or Linear


C'mon, Leonard, what's wrong with asking an honest question?
Young folks need answers from their elders.
I suspect he's a member of the former, as it's usually they that
exhibit a preference for multiple exclamation points and question
marks... g

keith whaley

Paris, Leonard wrote:
 
 Have you shot any tests with the polarizer(s) you have, or are you unable
to
 bring yourself to risk a few exposures without a consensus from the group?
 
 Len
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 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Pentax  Polarizers:Circular or Linear
 
   Hi Guys..
 Article in this month's PopPhoto implies that SLR metering and/or
   autofocus systems may be inaccurate with LINEAR polarizers in 
   place..I dont use autofocus enuf to care, but does anyone know if 
   an SF-10 or ZX-7 exposure meter will get compromised by the (far less
   expensive and already in my bag) linears. ?
   
  Thanx,
Bob G.
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(2) For the KMP: Exact lens names

2002-08-14 Thread Bojidar Dimitrov

Hi all,

Sincere thanks to all who have already helped in my search for the exact
lens names!  Just in case some of you have not seen my previous
messages, below I have the (short!) list of lenses whose names I still
do not have and my original post.

Cheers,
Boz

---

Hi all,

In order to make the lens data for the KMP (http://KMP.BDimitrov.de/)
even more complete, I would like to gather the exact names of all
K-mount Pentax-made lenses.  I have gathered quite a few already, but I
still need help.  Please look at
http://KMP.BDimitrov.de/lenses/names.txt and check its contents against
the lenses which you own.  For lenses whose names I already have, please
make sure that I have the correct one.  For lenses where I have listed
UNKNOWN, please give me the exact name as imprinted on the lens
(barrel).

Please pay attention to spaces, commas, tildas and hyphens (~ is not the
same as -), etc.  Please send your answers direct to me
([EMAIL PROTECTED]), and I will try to update the list every 2-3
days.  Please do not e-mail me the entire list, only the
changes/additions!

Best wishes to all, and thanks for participating!  Cheers,
Boz

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Lenses whose exact names I do not have:



SMC Lenses
--

FA20f2.8   UNKNOWN
FA28f2.8-Soft  UNKNOWN
K50f1.2-Gold   UNKNOWN
K85f2.2-Soft   UNKNOWN
FA85f2.8-Soft  UNKNOWN
FA100f3.5-MacroUNKNOWN
F135f2.8   UNKNOWN
FA300f2.8  UNKNOWN
A400f2.8   UNKNOWN
A600f5.6   UNKNOWN
A1200f8UNKNOWN
A28-80f3.5-4.5 UNKNOWN
FA28-80f3.5-5.6UNKNOWN
FA28-90f3.5-5.6UNKNOWN
A35-135f3.5-4.5UNKNOWN
F35-135f3.5-4.5UNKNOWN
F80-200f4.7-5.6UNKNOWN
FA80-200f4.7-5.6   UNKNOWN
FA100-300f4.7-5.8  UNKNOWN
F250-600f5.6   UNKNOWN
FA250-600f5.6  UNKNOWN
K400-600f8-12  UNKNOWN



Prototypes
--

K300f2 UNKNOWN
M32-39f2.8-Flexi   UNKNOWN
K35-70f2.8 UNKNOWN
K35-70f2.8-AutofocusUNKNOWN



Non-SMC Lenses
--

phs_80-200f4   UNKNOWN

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   0(` O-O ')0   A. Einstein
===ooO=(_)=Ooo===
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://kmp.BDimitrov.de/
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RE: Toys

2002-08-14 Thread ukasz Kacperczyk

I've just sold my wife's MZ-7+SMC F 35-80mm f/4-5,6.

Does she know abiut it? ;)

ukasz
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Itens to sell on e-bay

2002-08-14 Thread suaide

Hello Everybody, 

Just to let you know I am selling some itens on e-bay. Some of
them you don't see there every day. If you are interested,
take a look. 

Regards

Alex

Pentax PZ1-p body + Pentax PK adaptor
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1373567170

Tokina 28-70 F 2.6-2.8 ATX PRO II for Pentax 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1373568358

Pentax SMC-F 50 F1.7 lens + 2x teleconverter
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1373567612 

Sigma Flash EF-500 Super for Pentax cameras 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1373567903

Sigma lens 70-300 F4-5.6 APO macro for Pentax 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1373568163

--
Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D.
mailto::[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Wayne State University - Detroit, MI
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Re: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Alling

Just possibly because you don't have room for a traditional darkroom.

At 04:46 PM 8/13/2002 -0600, you wrote:
- Original Message -
From:
Subject: OT: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ


  Hi everyone,
  I have just tried to scan a BW (TMax 3200) film, and it seems
that
  leaving the digital ICE (this is Nikon 4000ED scanner) turns
the scans
  to literally, black and white (and almost no any intermediate
greys)!
  Switching IR cleaning off turns the pictures back to normal.
Any ideas
  of what may go on? Does silver absorb all the IR making
scanner thing
  that there's nothing but dirt?

We have the same problem with digital ice. It seems that it
doesn't deal with the reflectivity of a silver halide image.
Nikon documentation indicates that digital ice is not usable
with silver halide images.

It would seem there are limits to what Nikon can acomplish.

The $64,000 question is, why would you want to scan black and
white film in the first place?

William Robb
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Re: On the road again.

2002-08-14 Thread ERNReed

In a message dated 8/14/2002 7:27:24 AM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I will be in San Antonio from the 23rd through the 25th.  I have a friend
 who is willing to be a tour guide for me in San Antonio.  She seems to know
 her way around the place.
 
 Anyway,  any ideas, suggestions, places to see, places to photograph, eat,
 etc., etc., etc., will be greatly appreciated.
 
 Also, any good camera shops around?
 
Totally unfamiliar with Fort Worth, so all my comments apply to San Antonio.
Camera shops: Not the best city in the world for those. We have a friendly 
one, not exceptionally well-stocked -- Boyd's, at the corner of Blanco Road 
and Lockhill-Selma. We have a well-stocked one with a reputation for 
unfriendliness -- Camera Exchange on San Pedro Ave. By the way, in case you 
do want to visit those shops, be aware neither one is open on Sundays.
Places to see: World-class zoo (with miniature railroad that is or was the 
world's longest); four 18th-century missions (in addition to the Alamo -- 
the Shrine of Texas Liberty. The other four are less touristy and in fact all 
the chapels are still in regular use as chapels); some nice and some truly 
horrific architecture. I may have even more ideas when I'm a bit more awake 
:-) I just happen to have spent a lot of time shooting the zoo and the 
missions.
Of course there's also the Riverwalk.
Places to eat: Recommendations would depend on what you like to eat.
Ken Archer will probably have additional suggestions.


ERNR
My photographs hang on the virtual walls at http://members.aol.com/ernreed
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RE: What's the best way to clean filters?

2002-08-14 Thread Paris, Leonard

Windex has some slightly moist wipes that work very well with filters, then
I usually follow up with a clean microfiber cloth.  In my experience, the
lens pen must be handled very carefully in order that it NOT pick up oil
from somewhere and redeposit it where it's unwelcome.  I usually use my lens
pen to clean the viewfinder eyepiece on my cameras and it's hard to keep
them from picking up oil there, so I try to keep at least one clean lens pen
as a spare.  I need to find a good method to clean the lens pens, if they
can be cleaned, because they aren't cheap enough here to be disposable.  I
wash my microfiber cloths in mild detergent, rinse well and hang them up
inside to dry.

Len
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-Original Message-
From: Peifer, William [OCDUS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:16 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: What's the best way to clean filters?


On the Lens Pen, William Robb wrote:
 I tried using a brand new lens pen to clean the rear element of my
 finder base not long ago.  This is not a product I will use on anything
 I like, ever again.  I was afraid it had wrecked my finder base by
 smearing a grease like substance onto the glass.

Hi Bill,

I've occasionally noticed the same smearing effect when I use a Lens Pen.  I
believe that the grease I see in these cases is actually grease that's
already on the optic.  (If I do a detergent-and-water cleaning on an optic
like that, I find that going back at it with a Lens Pen doesn't introduce
any new grease.)  I don't think these pens are good at removing large
amounts of grease, but I've found that they work pretty well for cleaning
small amounts of grease, and they're pretty convenient in the field -- as
long as you're not trying to clean anything that's ~too~ greasy.  So I guess
I have to qualify my answer.

I wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion about dish detergent and warm
water.  One or two other folks mentioned that as well, and I think someone
even mentioned using a sterile cotton ball along with the soap and water.
That's exactly what I use to clean my 8 diameter telescope mirror, in fact.

I'm curious if you've ever had any luck with glass cleaners like Windex.
I've actually had good luck with this stuff on occasion, and I haven't
noticed any residue if I do it carefully.  I'd be interested to hear anyone
else's experiences.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: PDML UK

2002-08-14 Thread Jostein

Rob, I just came to think of Mike Wilson. AFAIK, he's still in Poland, so if
he's not subscribing, he might miss this week's issue...
- Original Message -
From: dick graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:20 PM
Subject: Re: PDML UK


 For those of us who can't get our hands on the magazine a scan would be
nice.

 DG



 At 01:22 AM 8/14/02 +0200, you wrote:
 Right now it's 01:20 AM. Cotty  I have been out looking for the perseids
 for a while, but now Cotty's in my kitchen preparing tomorrow's dinner!
None
 of us have been particularly drunk, but we've had a great time anyway!
:-)
 
 Thanks for the offer to scan the article, Rob. But you know, I think I
will
 try to get my hands on a copy of the magazine itself. I'm pretty sure
they
 sell it some places here in Oslo too.
 
 Jostein
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rob Brigham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:35 AM
 Subject: RE: PDML UK
 
 
   Yeah there was a pic of Jostein on the 400 with Mike on the 600 in the
   background.  There was a little more text in the magazine too,
including
   a quote from John Dickens.  I will scan the article if you want?  Is
   Cotty  Alma ther right now?  Glad it all worked out if they are 
hope
   Cotty is not getting you all to drunk!  Better still, I hope he is!!!
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More kit decisions advice

2002-08-14 Thread Lindamood, Mark

Someone earlier got good advice on their trip to Greece.  Okay, try this.
I'm going to the High Sierra camps in the backcountry of Yosemite, day hikes
between each camp, with side trips one or two days from base.  Staying at
the camps, so no sleeping bag, tent or food is being carried.  Camera gear
is:  MZ-S only (so spare), with EITHER the 24-90FA and 70-210F, and possibly
the 20mmFA as well, OR all primes, as follows: 24mmK (2.8), 35mmFA (2.0),
50mmF (1.7), 150mmM (3.5).   I will want to use a cokin graduated filter to
knock sky down.  It has a 67mm ring.  Use of that with the primes will
require fussy step-up rings, while with the 24-90 and the 20 it will be plug
and play.  To me that seems the decision maker, because I believe the 24-90
to be good enough to compete with the primes, plus I like to crop with zoom.
Any opinions, however, would be welcomed.
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Re: Flip side: Ex: Infinity Focus problem

2002-08-14 Thread Jose R. Rodriguez

Simon,

You may want to check to see if your other lenses are focusing to infinity with your 
camera to rule out mirror misalignment.  Or put the lens on another body to check as 
well.

If the mirror is misaligned on the body, you will have focusing inaccuracies; 
especially when you open up the lens (shallow depth of field).

Regards,

Jose R. Rodriguez 

 
 From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2002/08/14 Wed AM 05:11:12 CDT
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Flip side: Ex: Infinity Focus problem
 
 Hi All,
 What about a 50mm lens that doesn't quite get to infinity?
 I just went out with Sam (http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~sking/index.htm) 
 and found that my f/2 50 paired with my Super Program doesn't focus at
 infinity.
 Cheers,
 Simon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: David Weiss 
 Subject: Re: Infinity Focus problem 
 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:50:10 -0700 
 
 
 
 
 Rob,
 
 From what you said below, it seems that this problem does not
 really effect the ability of the lens to focus. 
 
 I am going to take a few pics and see if it does.
 
 Thanks for the information.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 Rob said:
 
 Given this information I expect that this particular lens has
 a 
 problem. In 
 some cases, through constant use, the infinity stop can
 become worn or 
 the 
 screws fixing the components can become loose
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Re: (2) For the KMP: Exact lens names

2002-08-14 Thread Artur Ledóchowski

- Original Message - 
From: Bojidar Dimitrov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: (2) For the KMP: Exact lens names


 SMC Lenses
 --
 FA80-200f4.7-5.6   UNKNOWN

SMC PENTAX-FA 1:4.7-5.6 80-200mm

HTH
Greetz
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Re: Best Portrait lens for the 6x7?

2002-08-14 Thread Bruce Dayton

Brother Albano,

I have both the 165/2.8 and 165/4 Leaf shutter lens.  Both are quite
nice as far as all items mentioned except close focusing.  To get a
tight head shot with either one, you must use an extension tube.  I
have never tried the 135/4 macro, but I'm sure that head shots are
easier.  I just don't know what the bokeh is like.  For what I have, I
prefer the 165/2.8 when I don't need fill flash.  The extra stop is
handy and the lens has a built in lens hood that just slides out.  If
you do fill flash then the Leaf shutter lens will do the trick all the
way around.

Hopefully someone can address whether the 135 macro works well as a
portrait lens.

Brother Bruce



Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 9:30:27 AM, you wrote:

Avca Hi, brothers
Avca I would like to know what is the better portrait lens for the 67 in your
Avca opinion.
Avca It's including sharpness, handling, bokeh, min focus distance, ability to
Avca do close headshots, etc, etc
Avca All comments welcome.
Avca Thanks in advance

Avca Albano
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6x7 PH SB 67 hood, can be used with filters?

2002-08-14 Thread Albano_Garcia

Hi, brothers
Just a quick question:
The PHSB67 hood, is bayonet, screw-on or what?
If it is bayonet, it can't be used with filters, unless they are the
special bayonet Pentax ones?
I'm asking because I found one in a store here (wasn't able to take a
close-up look, the store was closed) and I want to know if this hood is
worth having.
Also, I would like to know the exact depth of it, to search for possible
screw-on cheaper alternatives.
Regards

Albano
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Re: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread Joseph Tainter

 I'd go with Agfa RSX-II 100 or the new Kodak PressChrome 100. Both have
 good sharpness, natural colors. The PC100 has a bit wider latitude than other 
slides, which is good in direct sunlight or when you forget to compensate half 
stops...
 
 Gabor

Where is there information on PressChrome 100? I haven't heard of it.
It's not on Kodak's USA web site.

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
says it's an acceptable alternative.
Anyhow, that's good to hear.

My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
purchase deal!
But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought back...

The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?

Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.

keith whaley

David Brooks wrote:
 
 LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
 in your area :)
 
 Dave
 
  Begin Original Message 
 
 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Toys
 
 Good onya, Butch!
 The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
 Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
 batteries?
 
 keith whaley
 
 Pentax User
 Stouffville Ontario Canada
 http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Alling

I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the 
polarity right?

At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
says it's an acceptable alternative.
Anyhow, that's good to hear.

My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
purchase deal!
But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought back...

The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?

Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.

keith whaley

David Brooks wrote:
 
  LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
  in your area :)
 
  Dave
 
   Begin Original Message 
 
  From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: New Toys
 
  Good onya, Butch!
  The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
  Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
  batteries?
 
  keith whaley
 
  Pentax User
  Stouffville Ontario Canada
  http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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Re: Lenses in the field

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Thank you Rob. May I then assume the true macro has a limited range,
and will not go to infinity?
I have used ordinary lenses that incorporate the lens motion to
encompass a macro range, and do rather well, but have never owned a
true macro lens.
For me that would be an excess, as the poor thing would sit idle for
weeks at a time.  g

Thanks for the answer,  keith whaley

Rob Studdert wrote:
 
 On 14 Aug 2002 at 4:22, Keith Whaley wrote:
 
  Good morning, Peter,
 
  What distinction do you hang on the word true, in true macro.
  Must be a subtlety there that I'm not aware of. Or, more
  likely, I've forgotten it's accepted meaning.  g
 
 Hi Keith,
 
 Of course I'm not Peter but I assume that he meant (as I read) as vs a
 dedicated macro lens i.e. one specifically designed for close focus with a flat
 focus field, excellent sharpness, great contrast and very little geometric
 distortion?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Re[3]: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:
 If ultra vivid is what you want, then Velvia or Kodak 100VS is your

I haven't used the Velvia yet, I'm saving it for a trip to Centralia, PA
(its a town that's been on fire for over 30 years, now). I'll have to add
in a roll of Kodak 100VS into my next order and see how it turns out.

 game.  In the print film realm, the king was Agfa Ultra 50 - alas is

Most of all, I'd love to find a print film in 4x5, as I know my shutters
are all off and I'm too lazy to sit down and test them all to find out
just by how much. :) Oh well, evidently I'll have to test or just deal
without.

 lighting but not both well.  For low contrast situations - Agfa Optima
 II 100 is quite nice.  For higher contrast situations - Konica
 Impressa 50 and Fuji Reala 100 are both very nice.  If you would like
 samples, I can email you some.

I've been shooting Reala 100 in 120 now for a few rolls, and have been
quite happy with the results so far, but for the most part, the colours
seem to be as I remembered them, not the excessively vivid colour I
(not-so) secretly wish to have. I'm happy, but I want more.. always more!

Come to think of it, is Reala available in 4x5..(checking)..no, it is not.


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Re: Pentax Polarizers:Circular or Linear

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

You're quite lucky, Len. My curmudgeon day appearance is set on
random, but no more than twice a week. ;^)

keith whaley


Paris, Leonard wrote:
 
 There just seems to be no lack of folks that won't try anything on their
 own. But the real reason for my question is because today is offically
 Curmudgeon Day, at least here in this part of America's Outback. Every
 Wednesday is Curmudgeon Day as announced on the 145.11 repeater.  In
 appreciation for them naming the day for me, I feel obligated to ask at
 least one curmudgeonly question in celebration of the occassion.
 
 73 de KD9S, Len.
 ---
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:08 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Pentax  Polarizers:Circular or Linear
 
 C'mon, Leonard, what's wrong with asking an honest question?
 Young folks need answers from their elders.
 I suspect he's a member of the former, as it's usually they that
 exhibit a preference for multiple exclamation points and question
 marks... g
 
 keith whaley
 
 Paris, Leonard wrote:
 
  Have you shot any tests with the polarizer(s) you have, or
  are you unable to bring yourself to risk a few exposures
  without a consensus from the group?
 
  Len
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Re: Pentax Polarizers:Circular or Linear

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 In a message dated 8/14/2002 7:58:01 AM Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Subject: Re: Pentax  Polarizers: Circular or Linear
 
  C'mon, Leonard, what's wrong with asking an honest question?
  Young folks need answers from their elders.
  I suspect he's a member of the former, as it's usually they that
  exhibit a preference for multiple exclamation points and question
  marks... g
 
 Well, the first advice should be to look in the bloody owners manual where
 Pentax will tell you which kind of filter to use...my PZ70 and PZ20 manuals
 do and both recommend circular polarizers.

:^)  I agree, Jerry, if he has one. If not, he ought to GET one!

Keith Whaley in L.A.
 
 Jerry in Houston
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Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread Fred

Now that the auction is mercifully over -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1371907910

I know we've discussed animal skins on camera bodies before (and I
personally do not care for them, but I do know that a few of you
guys do), but here's an MEF with a matching skinned lens - g.

Fred
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RE: Best Portrait lens for the 6x7?

2002-08-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I'd recommend the 200mm F4. If you use
the old one, you'll need a small extension
tube for head shots, the newer one will
focus close enuff without one.

There's another solution, but I havent
tried it yet and thats to use the 90mm
105mm, or 135mm on a 2X TC. Min. Focus distance
shouldnt be a problem at all that way.
The very slight softening caused by
the TC could actually be an asset for portraits.
I picked up a Vivitar multi-coated 2X TC
and my initial test results with it were
outstanding, very little loss of quality.
Way cheaper than buying another 67 lens if you
already have the 105 for example.

I wouldnt recommend a 165mm or shorter lens,
the focal length is just too short for 
tight head shots.
JCO


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Best Portrait lens for the 6x7?
 
 
 Hi, brothers
 I would like to know what is the better portrait lens for the 67 in your
 opinion.
 It's including sharpness, handling, bokeh, min focus distance, ability to
 do close headshots, etc, etc
 All comments welcome.
 Thanks in advance
 
 Albano
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Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Hah! That's the first thing I thought of. I had that + on the inside
of the cover engraved in my mind!

I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is
to remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there, and clean the
cover's insides well, as well as the spring contact inside the body.
They both looked clean, but another gentle rubbing with a pencil
eraser and some cleaner can't hurt.

keith

Peter Alling wrote:
 
 I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the
 polarity right?

 
 At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
 says it's an acceptable alternative.
 Anyhow, that's good to hear.
 
 My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
 up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
 battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
 it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
 purchase deal!
 But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought back...
 
 The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
 unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?
 
 Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.
 
 keith whaley
 
 David Brooks wrote:
  
   LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
   in your area :)
  
   Dave
  
    Begin Original Message 
  
   From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: New Toys
  
   Good onya, Butch!
   The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
   Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
   batteries?
  
   keith whaley
  
   Pentax User
   Stouffville Ontario Canada
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Re: ME + 35-135

2002-08-14 Thread Fred

 i was wondering if someone could give me some information about
 how reliable this model is, if it has some known flaws, things
 like that. it is very tempting to me, but it seems strange that
 top cover is  black and in all the pictures seen on the net seems
 wrong.

Black ME's are normal, and not all that uncommon, either.  The ME
seems to be quite reliable (for a 25-year-old camera).

Fred
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Re: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Fred wrote:
 I know we've discussed animal skins on camera bodies before (and I
 personally do not care for them, but I do know that a few of you
 guys do), but here's an MEF with a matching skinned lens - g.

Wow, that's ugly. Dare I even say hideous?

(ps, reptile skins aren't built to be made into leather, they fall apart
too quickly, so be nice, don't kill snakes, and protest your local
rattlesnake roundups)

gfen (happy snake keeper)

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Re: vivitar s1 35-85 0r 28-90mm or 28-85

2002-08-14 Thread Fred

 i am looking at these lenses has any one had any experience with
 them are they any good which is the better one in terms of
 sharpness and contrast

I have the VS1 35-85/2.8 Varifocal (not a true zoom).  It's a really
nice lens, one which I find myself using more and more.

I am not familiar with the others - sorry.

Fred
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Re: 6x7 PH SB 67 hood, can be used with filters?

2002-08-14 Thread Bruce Dayton

Albano,

I have this hood.  It is a clip on type.  That means that the edge of
the lens/filter needs some thread to clip onto.  You can screw a
filter on and then put the hood on.  You can't use a Cokin holder and
put the hood on after that.  However, Cokin makes a hood for their
holder if you need it.


Bruce



Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 9:51:55 AM, you wrote:

Avca Hi, brothers
Avca Just a quick question:
Avca The PHSB67 hood, is bayonet, screw-on or what?
Avca If it is bayonet, it can't be used with filters, unless they are the
Avca special bayonet Pentax ones?
Avca I'm asking because I found one in a store here (wasn't able to take a
Avca close-up look, the store was closed) and I want to know if this hood is
Avca worth having.
Avca Also, I would like to know the exact depth of it, to search for possible
Avca screw-on cheaper alternatives.
Avca Regards

Avca Albano
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Re[4]: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread Bruce Dayton

gfen,

Man, looking at what is available in 4X5 sheets for color print I was
shocked.  There isn't much choice.  I thought MF was limited, but LF
is extremely limited.  I think you are stuck with just shooting
slides.


Bruce



Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 10:20:04 AM, you wrote:

g On Tue, 13 Aug 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:
 If ultra vivid is what you want, then Velvia or Kodak 100VS is your

g I haven't used the Velvia yet, I'm saving it for a trip to Centralia, PA
g (its a town that's been on fire for over 30 years, now). I'll have to add
g in a roll of Kodak 100VS into my next order and see how it turns out.

 game.  In the print film realm, the king was Agfa Ultra 50 - alas is

g Most of all, I'd love to find a print film in 4x5, as I know my shutters
g are all off and I'm too lazy to sit down and test them all to find out
g just by how much. :) Oh well, evidently I'll have to test or just deal
g without.

 lighting but not both well.  For low contrast situations - Agfa Optima
 II 100 is quite nice.  For higher contrast situations - Konica
 Impressa 50 and Fuji Reala 100 are both very nice.  If you would like
 samples, I can email you some.

g I've been shooting Reala 100 in 120 now for a few rolls, and have been
g quite happy with the results so far, but for the most part, the colours
g seem to be as I remembered them, not the excessively vivid colour I
g (not-so) secretly wish to have. I'm happy, but I want more.. always more!

g Come to think of it, is Reala available in 4x5..(checking)..no, it is not.
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Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Alling

You might also gently lift the contact at the bottom of the battery holder 
and make
sure that the new battery is making positive contact with the cover.

At 10:44 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
Hah! That's the first thing I thought of. I had that + on the inside
of the cover engraved in my mind!

I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is
to remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there, and clean the
cover's insides well, as well as the spring contact inside the body.
They both looked clean, but another gentle rubbing with a pencil
eraser and some cleaner can't hurt.

keith

Peter Alling wrote:
 
  I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the
  polarity right?


  At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
  I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
  says it's an acceptable alternative.
  Anyhow, that's good to hear.
  
  My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
  up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
  battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
  it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
  purchase deal!
  But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought 
 back...
  
  The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
  unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?
  
  Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.
  
  keith whaley
  
  David Brooks wrote:
   
LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
in your area :)
   
Dave
   
 Begin Original Message 
   
From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Toys
   
Good onya, Butch!
The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
batteries?
   
keith whaley
   
Pentax User
Stouffville Ontario Canada
http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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RE: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread Paris, Leonard

Rattlesnake tastes great. It is good that folks have also figured out a way
to use the skins.  Waste not, want not.

Len
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From: gfen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 12:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8


On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Fred wrote:
 I know we've discussed animal skins on camera bodies before (and I
 personally do not care for them, but I do know that a few of you
 guys do), but here's an MEF with a matching skinned lens - g.

Wow, that's ugly. Dare I even say hideous?

(ps, reptile skins aren't built to be made into leather, they fall apart
too quickly, so be nice, don't kill snakes, and protest your local
rattlesnake roundups)

gfen (happy snake keeper)

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Re: print film in 4x5

2002-08-14 Thread Cmlillja55

Fujicolor NPS 160 print is available in 4x5 and 8x10. So are several of the 
Portra films. Per BH NYC ads...
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RE: On the road again.

2002-08-14 Thread Cesar Matamoros II

ERNR,

Thanks for the information.  I will mention some of the items to her.  I
know she has gone out and shot some at the missions.  Maybe we will revisit
them.

As for food, she is supposed to be a food afficionado, so I will see what
she is up to - whether we dine in or out.

I would mention a get together, but with the limited time and the schedule
I believe she has put together...

The unfriendly camera shop sounds interesting.  Maybe I can pop in there
and have some fun

Hoping it won't be my only time in SA,

Cesar
Panama City, Florida

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Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:48 AM

In a message dated 8/14/2002 7:27:24 AM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I will be in San Antonio from the 23rd through the 25th.  I have a friend
 who is willing to be a tour guide for me in San Antonio.  She seems to
know
 her way around the place.

 Anyway,  any ideas, suggestions, places to see, places to photograph, eat,
 etc., etc., etc., will be greatly appreciated.

 Also, any good camera shops around?

Totally unfamiliar with Fort Worth, so all my comments apply to San Antonio.
Camera shops: Not the best city in the world for those. We have a friendly
one, not exceptionally well-stocked -- Boyd's, at the corner of Blanco Road
and Lockhill-Selma. We have a well-stocked one with a reputation for
unfriendliness -- Camera Exchange on San Pedro Ave. By the way, in case you
do want to visit those shops, be aware neither one is open on Sundays.
Places to see: World-class zoo (with miniature railroad that is or was the
world's longest); four 18th-century missions (in addition to the Alamo --
the Shrine of Texas Liberty. The other four are less touristy and in fact
all
the chapels are still in regular use as chapels); some nice and some truly
horrific architecture. I may have even more ideas when I'm a bit more awake
:-) I just happen to have spent a lot of time shooting the zoo and the
missions.
Of course there's also the Riverwalk.
Places to eat: Recommendations would depend on what you like to eat.
Ken Archer will probably have additional suggestions.


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Re[4]: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Bruce Dayton wrote:
 Man, looking at what is available in 4X5 sheets for color print I was
 shocked.  There isn't much choice.  I thought MF was limited, but LF
 is extremely limited.  I think you are stuck with just shooting
 slides.

Agreed, but at least I can get Reala in 120... now I just have to get that
6x7 after all (I accidently spent the fund on a lens).

I may actually find out that Velvia (and others) might be too much for my
liking. At this point, my sole experience with it has been seeing other
people's pictures around. On the reverse, I also haven't shot any slide
film at all, yet. I've had a roll of Kodak somethingchrome 200 in my
fridge for months, and I just haven't bothered.. I'm put off by what
people say in regards to the lack of exposure lattitude.

Guess I'll find out, as I plan on running the Velveta through my ZX-50,
and I presume the 2 segment metering will be robust enough to deliver the
goods. (I had to work some pentax content into this, and, well, its a
request for comment on it)

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Re[2]: Lenses in the field

2002-08-14 Thread Bob Walkden

Hi,

my Leica 35/1.4 is an earlier version than Rob's, and is even smaller
than that!

---

 Bob  

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, August 14, 2002, 12:57:37 PM, you wrote:

 Oh my! What a difference!
 And I thought the lenses for my Retina Reflex III were overly large...

 keith whaley

 Rob Studdert wrote:
 
 On 14 Aug 2002 at 7:51, Bob Walkden wrote:
 
  I have 2 35/1.4s - one by Leica, the other by Carl Zeiss and it's a
  lesson in the differences between RF and SLR lenses to put them side
  by side. The Leica is tiny, the CZ is enormous.
 
 And just to illustrate Bob's point (as I had the same combo):
 
 http://www.home.aone.net.au/audiobias/35ASPHlux-m_vs_CZ35f1.4_top.jpg
 
 Cheers,
 
 Rob Studdert
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Re: Re[4]: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread Cmlillja55

In a message dated 8/14/2002 2:41:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 I plan on running the Velveta through my ZX-50

I think you'll find it a bit cheezy... ;)

Chris L.
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Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Fred

 After a couple minutes of fiddling around (it's 11:30 PM and I've
 been up since 6 AM) I realized that what I had was the 1:1 adapter
 for the 100/4 M macro (somewhat rare and pricey?)

Hmmm...  I was not aware of any 1:1 adapter for any Pentax 100mm
macro.  (But I was not aware does not preclude the actual
existence of same - g.)  Are you sure it's not actually a TC or an
extension tube?  (I think a 50mm - I'm not sure of the exact length
- extension tube is typically used to give 1:1 with some of the
100mm macros.)  What markings (if any) does it have?  Does it have
any internal glass (as opposed to a hollow extension tube)?

Fred
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just bought a photo printer

2002-08-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell

Heads up guys. 

Epson is now offering a $100 rebate
on their 1280 printer. Seemed like
a good deal so I took the plunge.
Found one online for $417 before rebate
so net cost is finally reasonable.

Question: Can anybody recommend a
good paper (glossy) for doing color
and BW printing with this machine?

TIA,
JCO
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Re: This weekend

2002-08-14 Thread Bill Owens

 Don´t know what I look forward to more, the clinic or the comraderie.
Okay,
 I just thought about it - the friends are the reason I am going.

That's why we show up too!  Even Cotty's thinking about next spring.  Don't
know how that would work out, what with he and the other bloke, Mark,
getting together :-)

Bill
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Re: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread Fred

Oops - Correction - it's ~ALLIGATOR~ skin.  Sorry.

 Wow, that's ugly. Dare I even say hideous?

1.  Still ugly, in my opinion, on a camera (or lens).  Alligator
skin looks beautiful on an alligator (as does snakeskin on a snake).

 (ps, reptile skins aren't built to be made into leather, they fall
 apart too quickly, so be nice, don't kill snakes, and protest your
 local rattlesnake roundups)

 Rattlesnake tastes great. It is good that folks have also figured
 out a way to use the skins.  Waste not, want not.

2.  I think that God intended reptile flesh and reptile skin to be
more useful for the reptiles created with them.  But I digress...

Fred
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RE: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Paris, Leonard wrote:
 Rattlesnake tastes great. It is good that folks have also figured out a way
 to use the skins.  Waste not, want not.

Its wasteful and inhumane to support rattlesnake roundups, just as it was
incredibly wasteful and wrong in what we (Americans) did to the bison on
the plains.

However, I won't start my diatribe on here, just go ahead and do a search
on rattlesnake roundups, and find some of the critical pages. Its kinda
depressing how people treat wildlife around them, and snakes rarely fare
very well because of people's misconceptions.

ObPentax: I've been thinking about setting up a small terrirum in the
corner to try and take photos of some of my snakes, except I have limited
space and resources, and I've been too lazy thus far. I do have some
lovely snapshots of them, though.


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Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

It also occurs to me the rubber o-ring might be exerting a little too
much force on the battery, and keeping it away from good contact with
the cover...
Both items worth looking at.
I will make that a project today.

Thanks,  keith whaley

Peter Alling wrote:
 
 You might also gently lift the contact at the bottom of the battery holder
 and make
 sure that the new battery is making positive contact with the cover.

 
 At 10:44 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
 Hah! That's the first thing I thought of. I had that + on the inside
 of the cover engraved in my mind!
 
 I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is
 to remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there, and clean the
 cover's insides well, as well as the spring contact inside the body.
 They both looked clean, but another gentle rubbing with a pencil
 eraser and some cleaner can't hurt.
 
 keith
 
 Peter Alling wrote:
  
   I know it sounds stupid but it can happen to anyone.  Did you get the
   polarity right?
 
 
   At 09:58 AM 8/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:
   I went in for an LR44 the other day, and they gave me an A76. Package
   says it's an acceptable alternative.
   Anyhow, that's good to hear.
   
   My recently purchased Spotmatic F doesn't seem to work with my kludged
   up but well-fit A76 battery. It should have, if all that's wrong is no
   battery, so I'm guessing there's something more fundamental wrong with
   it. Sighhh. If it needs that kind of attention, there goe$ a great
   purchase deal!
   But still, it's a beautiful camera  I'll keep it if it can be brought
  back...
   
   The previous owner did say that it had sat around in it's case,
   unused, for some 30+ years. Maybe it just needs a proper CLA?
   
   Thanks for the info on the K1000, David.
   
   keith whaley
   
   David Brooks wrote:

 LR44's, readily available at fine camera stores
 in your area :)

 Dave

  Begin Original Message 

 From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 04:02:17 -0700
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: New Toys

 Good onya, Butch!
 The only phrase that comes to mind is, got batteries?
 Or is that one of those later Pentaxes that take readily available
 batteries?

 keith whaley

 Pentax User
 Stouffville Ontario Canada
 http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/
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Re: Re[4]: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I plan on running the Velveta through my ZX-50
 I think you'll find it a bit cheezy... ;)

I figured teh SMC would work well with baked on cheese, though!

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Re: Re[4]: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Alling

It'll probably melt and gum up the works a bit as well.

At 02:44 PM 8/14/2002 -0400, you wrote:
In a message dated 8/14/2002 2:41:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


  I plan on running the Velveta through my ZX-50

I think you'll find it a bit cheezy... ;)

Chris L.
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Re: stops and scales

2002-08-14 Thread Scott J. Fine

You write:
Scott J. Fine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I am under the impression that f-stops are measured in a scale that is
either based on 1 or 1.4, as in:

1, 1.4, 2, 2.8, 4.0, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22, 32...

It's actually based on the square root of 2 (1.414) and has to do with how
the area of the aperture is calculated. The f stop is the ratio of the
aperture diameter to the focal length. An f stop of 1.0 (theoretical) with a
50mm lens at infinity would mean an aperture diameter of 50mm. If you wanted
to halve the area of the aperture (to reduce the amount of light reaching
the film by half), you wouldn't halve the diameter because the area of a
circle is:
  pi x r**2. Halving the radius would result in an aperture one fourth the
area (or 2 stops). Therefore, to halve the aperture area you divide the
diameter (and therefore the radius) by the square root of 2. The new f stop
becomes f/1.414 (f/1.4) as the diameter is 1/1.414 of the focal length.
Divide by the square root of 2 again and you get an f stop of f/2 as the
diameter is now 1/2 the focal length. Keep dividing by the square root of 2
and you get the rest of the scale.

Please tell me if this is correct - I subtracted one stop from the next 
largest, divided that number by 2 and added the result to the larger 
aperture.  I cam up with the following 1/2 stop scale.

1.414   (1.4)
 1.706   (1.7)
1.999   (2)
 2.413   (2.5)
2.827   (2.8)
 3.412   (3.5)
3.997   (4)
 4.824   (4.5)
5.652   (5.6)
 6.822   (6.7)
7.992   (8)
 9.646   (9.5)
11.301  (11)
 13.640  (13.5)
15.980  (16)
 19.288  (19)
22.596  (22)
 30.273  (?)
31.951  (32)

And if I take the difference between apertures, multiply by .333 and add 
that result to the larger aperture, I get 1/3 stops?  As in f/9 being 1/3 
of a stop smaller than f/8?  ((11.301 - 7.992)(.333)) + 7.992 = 9.093 [f/9]

And thank you all for your answers, even the ones with links to information 
that I have no hope of understanding :)

s/

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RE: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread Paris, Leonard

Funny how the meaning of words changes.  Inhumane treatment used to describe
treating people like animals.  Now it seems to mean not treating animals
like people.

Len
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Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:51 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8


On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Paris, Leonard wrote:
 Rattlesnake tastes great. It is good that folks have also figured out a
way
 to use the skins.  Waste not, want not.

Its wasteful and inhumane to support rattlesnake roundups, just as it was
incredibly wasteful and wrong in what we (Americans) did to the bison on
the plains.

However, I won't start my diatribe on here, just go ahead and do a search
on rattlesnake roundups, and find some of the critical pages. Its kinda
depressing how people treat wildlife around them, and snakes rarely fare
very well because of people's misconceptions.

ObPentax: I've been thinking about setting up a small terrirum in the
corner to try and take photos of some of my snakes, except I have limited
space and resources, and I've been too lazy thus far. I do have some
lovely snapshots of them, though.


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RE: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Keith Whaley wrote:
 I suspect what I'll do before I give it up to the camera repairman is to
 remove the battery and o-ring I'd stuffed in there...  [Snip]

Uh, Keith  Do ya suppose that the battery cover is engaging on the
O-ring (which it probably is), then pushing down enough on that engaged
O-ring as you screw in the cover, such that the positive metal contact on
the battery case is not even making contact with the inside surface of the
cover?  Before surrendering to the repairman, I'd be tempted to find a
larger button cell that will fit in the compartment properly.  Just the
other day, somebody mentioned a currently manufactured size that fits --
maybe your local office supply store would be a good place to check, since
Office Depot seems to carry a good selection around here (Rochester, NY).
Or, use the O-ring, but stuff a little wad of foil between the top of the
battery and the inside surface of the door?

Good luck!  Let us know how you make out.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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RE: just bought a photo printer

2002-08-14 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

JCO wrote:
 Heads up guys.

Oooh, the ladies on the list are gonna take issue with that one  ;-)

 Epson is now offering a $100 rebate on their 1280 printer. Seemed
 like a good deal so I took the plunge  Can anybody recommend
 a good paper (glossy) for doing color and BW printing with this
 machine?

Hi JCO,

I'm actually pretty happy with the Epson Glossy Photo Paper (the stuff that
runs $10 to $13 or so for 20 sheets of 8x10).  There's a Premium Glossy
which I haven't used, so I'm not sure how different of a look it will have.
The Epson Glossy out of my Epson 820 printer looks very much like a
conventional print.  I know some folks have said they don't generally like
the Epson papers, so your mileage may vary.

Not an answer to the question you asked, but Mark Roberts showed me some
11x14's he did on some Ilford rag paper, back while he was still in town
here.  Man, that stuff looked great!  Of course, you get what you pay for,
and that stuff was something like $5 a sheet.  A little out of my range, for
sure!

Hope this helps.

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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just bought a photo printer

2002-08-14 Thread Herb Chong

i do not use anything other than Epson paper except even more expensive
fine art paper from Lumijet.

Herb
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Re: This weekend

2002-08-14 Thread Mark Roberts

Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Cesar Top Down Matamoros wrote:
 I just thought about it - the friends are the reason I am going.

That's why we show up too!  Even Cotty's thinking about next spring.  Don't
know how that would work out, what with he and the other bloke, Mark,
getting together :-)

Since both Cotty and I are compulsive tinkerers there's no telling what bizarre
devices or camera modifications we might come up with.
Be afraid, be very afraid!

-- 
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www.robertstech.com
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FS: body KM, lenses etc

2002-08-14 Thread E. Kragtwijk

Hello everyone,

Prior to putting my equipment up eBay I want to offer it to the group:

- body KM in Exc++ condition, just a few signs of use on the bottom, no
scratches, no dents. Body cap. For collectors and users. Asking US$ 150 plus
shipping.
- SMC Pentax-M 50/1.4 in near mint condition. Just the name Pentax on the
front cap shows signs of use. Both caps. Glass is perfect. Asking US$ 80
plus shipping.
- SMC Pentax-M 120/2.8 in mint condition. Both caps. Asking US$ 125 plus
shipping
- SMC Pentax K 55/1.8 in excellent++  condition. Both lens caps are not
original. Asking US$ 75 plus shipping
- SMC Pentax-A 28/2.8 in excellent condition. Both caps. Asking US$ 90 plus
shipping
- SMC Pentax K 300/4 in mint (!) condition. Both caps. With original case
that shows age. Asking US$ 250 plus shipping
- Vivitar 2x and 3x automatic converter, both mint, the 2x converter comes
with case. Both have both lens caps. Asking US$ 60 plus shipping
- Gossen Lunasix F. In mint condition with original soft pouch. Asking US$
120 plus shipping.

Please contact me off list if interested. Satisfaction garanteed. Please see
my eBay ratings:
http://cgi2.ebay.nl/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedbackuserid=ekragtwijk
I will list remaining items on eBay after 2 days.

Thank you for looking.

Eric
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Re: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread Keith Whaley

Fred wrote:
 
 Oops - Correction - it's ~ALLIGATOR~ skin.  Sorry.
 
  Wow, that's ugly. Dare I even say hideous?
 
 1.  Still ugly, in my opinion, on a camera (or lens).  Alligator
 skin looks beautiful on an alligator (as does snakeskin on a snake).
 
  (ps, reptile skins aren't built to be made into leather, they fall
  apart too quickly, so be nice, don't kill snakes, and protest your
  local rattlesnake roundups)
 
  Rattlesnake tastes great. It is good that folks have also figured
  out a way to use the skins.  Waste not, want not.
 
 2.  I think that God intended reptile flesh and reptile skin to be
 more useful for the reptiles created with them.  But I digress...

You sure do.
Do you think amimals are here on earth just to look at?
 
 Fred

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Re: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Bill Owens

 Hmmm...  I was not aware of any 1:1 adapter for any Pentax 100mm
 macro.  (But I was not aware does not preclude the actual
 existence of same - g.)  Are you sure it's not actually a TC or an
 extension tube?  (I think a 50mm - I'm not sure of the exact length
 - extension tube is typically used to give 1:1 with some of the
 100mm macros.)  What markings (if any) does it have?  Does it have
 any internal glass (as opposed to a hollow extension tube)?

Wouldn't an extension tube have to give enough extension to extend the lens
to 100mm (in this case)?  I'm under the impression that it takes enough
extension to equal the focal length to get 1:1. Or something like that :-)

Bill
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Re: just bought a photo printer

2002-08-14 Thread Mark Roberts

J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Heads up guys. 

Epson is now offering a $100 rebate on their 1280 printer. 
Seemed like a good deal so I took the plunge.
Found one online for $417 before rebate so net cost is finally reasonable.

Question: Can anybody recommend a good paper (glossy) for doing color
and BW printing with this machine?

Congrats on the purchase and welcome to the world of digital printing!

I've found the Espon Premium Glossy paper works well as do the Ilford Galerie
papers (I've used the Smooth Gloss - equivalent to the Epson Premium Glossy -
and the Classic Pearl).
My all time favorite isn't glossy at all though: It's the Ilford Fine Art paper.
I do *all* my own prints on this paper.

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RE: stops and scales

2002-08-14 Thread Peifer, William [OCDUS]

Scott Fine wrote:
 Please tell me if this is correct - I subtracted one stop from the next
 largest, divided that number by 2 and added the result to the larger
 aperture.  I cam up with the following 1/2 stop scale

Hi Scott,

Nope, sorry -- the results are close, but the method is not correct.
Photographic stops are a geometric progression, not an arithmetic one.  That
means to generate the series, you ~multiply~ by a constant factor.  To get
the series of whole stops, start with 1, and multiply by 2^0.5 (that is, the
square root of two).  To get the series of half-stops, start with one, and
multiply by 2^0.25 (that is, the fourth root of two, which is also the
square root of the original square-root-of-two factor).  To get the series
of third-stops, start with 1, and multiply by 2^0.1667 (that is, the sixth
root of two, which is also the cube root of the original square-root-of-two
factor).  See the pattern?

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY
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Re: This weekend

2002-08-14 Thread Bill Owens

 Bill Owens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Cesar Top Down Matamoros wrote:
  I just thought about it - the friends are the reason I am going.
 
 That's why we show up too!  Even Cotty's thinking about next spring.
Don't
 know how that would work out, what with he and the other bloke, Mark,
 getting together :-)

 Since both Cotty and I are compulsive tinkerers there's no telling what
bizarre
 devices or camera modifications we might come up with.
 Be afraid, be very afraid!

Yes! And also hide my MZ-S and 645 from you two.  Maybe let you tinker with
the Zenit 312M though :-)

Bill
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Re: The Proof of...

2002-08-14 Thread Tonghang Zhou

The camera used is 'Zenit E' and medium (film) is 'Svema 65'.
Some one can tell me what these are?

The photos don't look too snappy to me.  But subject matters
are good.  Here's folder of similar photos:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=56

Regards,
Tonghang

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's the photographer, not the gear he uses...
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=922862

 Regards
 Albano
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Re: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread Fred

 Do you think amimals are here on earth just to look at?

No, Keith.  I think that animals (including human animals) are here
on earth to exist.

Yes, I'm a carnivore (actually, an omnivore), and was intended to be
so, I think.  However, I do think that there's a difference between
killing animals to eat them and killing them for fun.  And, I
don't think that animals killed for food (or for any other reason)
should deserve an inhumane death.

Fred
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RE: Snakeskin MEF and AF 35-70/2.8

2002-08-14 Thread gfen

On Wed, 14 Aug 2002, Paris, Leonard wrote:
 Funny how the meaning of words changes.  Inhumane treatment used to describe
 treating people like animals.  Now it seems to mean not treating animals
 like people.

Merrion Webster says that inhumane means inhuman, and that inhuman means
lacking pity, kindness or mercy or savage.

That doesn't just apply to animals, in my opinion, but all things living.

For the record, I eat meat, wear leather, and support reasonable hunting
and fishing. I just have a problem for cruelty for entertainment's sake.



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Re: Lenses in the field

2002-08-14 Thread Rob Studdert

On 14 Aug 2002 at 10:16, Keith Whaley wrote:

 Thank you Rob. May I then assume the true macro has a limited range,
 and will not go to infinity?
 I have used ordinary lenses that incorporate the lens motion to
 encompass a macro range, and do rather well, but have never owned a
 true macro lens.
 For me that would be an excess, as the poor thing would sit idle for
 weeks at a time.  g

Hi Keith,

I haven't owned a dedicated Macro lens that won't focus to infinity and most 
seem to be better performers at infinity when compared to non-Macro lenses of 
similar focal length and speed. However I would assume that most are 
performance optimised for close distances much some like enlarging lenses are 
optimised for a limited range of working distances or magnifications.

Unfortunately Pentax provides very little technical information on its lenses, 
if you are interested comparing lenses the Carl Zeiss site has detailed down-
loadable pdfs for each of its Contax SLR lenses. The pdf files for the macro 
lenses are quite detailed and provide MTF curves for infinity and closer 
magnifications.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: Re: slide film

2002-08-14 Thread Rob Studdert

On 14 Aug 2002 at 8:36, Mishka wrote:

 Alan,
 if you are scanning anyway, why do you care for how saturated the film
 is? you can make it as saturated as you want by just adjusting the
 levels. i would opt for *true* colors (Provia 100F and Agfa RSXII work
 fine for me), that can be screwed afterwards any way i like.

Hi Mishka,

Often a highly saturated film lacks subtle detail in the super-saturated areas, 
much like winding the saturation up in a digital image, detail can be 
obfuscated. De-saturation can't restore the lost information, I prefer to scan 
lower contrast films myself even if the scanner has a good dynamic range.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: More kit decisions advice

2002-08-14 Thread Rob Studdert

On 14 Aug 2002 at 9:57, Lindamood, Mark wrote:

 Someone earlier got good advice on their trip to Greece.  Okay, try this.
 I'm going to the High Sierra camps in the backcountry of Yosemite, day hikes
 between each camp, with side trips one or two days from base Use of that with 
the primes will require fussy step-up rings,
 while with the 24-90 and the 20 it will be plug and play.  To me that seems the
 decision maker, because I believe the 24-90 to be good enough to compete with
 the primes, plus I like to crop with zoom. Any opinions, however, would be
 welcomed.

Hi Mark,

I'm late into this thread but in your case since you have to lug the gear about 
I'd suggest sticking with the 20 + 24-90, although there's not that much 
advantage in AOV with the 20 it might still make the difference and it's a damn 
sharp prime that is great in low light. Good luck.

Cheers,

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Re: LX repair update

2002-08-14 Thread Rob Studdert

On 14 Aug 2002 at 16:09, William Robb wrote:

 This has nothing to do with the LX that is still in the shop,
 but with one of the cameras I got back last month.
 It appears to be developing a case of sticky mirror. This is
 after having the mirror box serviced.

These repairers obviously short-cut on the sticky-mirror repair, just 
replacing a few surface rubbers won't cut it, the camera has to be pulled right 
to bits, i.e. scattered all over the work-bench. None of the many LX that I 
have had repaired in OZ that had sticky-mirror have ever suffered it again. 
These dudes are hopeless :-(

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: LX repair update

2002-08-14 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Bruce Dayton
Subject: Re: LX repair update


 William,

 All I can say is that I am sure glad that the first time I
peered
 through one of Shel's LX's that I didn't care for the style of
 interface of the meter.  That coupled with the long running
issues
 that I have heard about LX's makes me glad that I don't have
any.  I
 know that they are older and probably hold up longer than many
other
 bodies, but that doesn't negate the fact that they are
starting to
 wear out.  That was one of the reasons that I moved forward
from my
 old SuperProgram (which I rather liked) to a PZ-1p and then an
MZ-S.
 Of course, then I was coerced into the Light and got my
67II.  I
 still can't get over the difference in detail of the negative
and
 resulting prints.

Call me Canadian, but for some reason that is not to be
fathomed, I still like the darnded things,
I suppose for the same reason I liked my Triumph Trident, even
though it required 4 hours of work per hour of riding.

William Robb
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RE:just bought a photo printer

2002-08-14 Thread Butch Black

Pictorico Glossy film is to die for, but is ridiculously expensive, about
$70 for 40 sheets of 8.5x11. I just got some Ilford Galerie smooth gloss in
that is supposed to be great (Aaron liked the Ilford papers) I'll let you
know after I do some tests and dial in the paper.

BUTCH

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RE: stops and scales

2002-08-14 Thread J. C. O'Connell

I DID THIS IN EXCEL A WHILE BACK.
I THINK ITS CORRECT:

1/2 stops   1/2 stops   1/3 stop calc   1/3 stops 
rounded
calcrounded stops  
 stops

1   f   1   0   1   f  
 1   0
1.189166052 f   1.190.5 1.122462047 f  
 1.120.33
1.4 f   1.4 1   1.259921047 f  
 1.260.66
1.664832473 f   1.661.5 1.4 f  
 1.4 1
2   f   2   2   1.571446866 f  
 1.571.33
2.378332105 f   2.382.5 1.763889466 f  
 1.761.66
2.8 f   2.8 3   2   f  
 2   2
3.329664947 f   3.333.5 2.244924094 f  
 2.242.33
4   f   4   4   2.519842094 f  
 2.512.66
4.756664209 f   4.764.5 2.8 f  
 2.8 3
5.6 f   5.6 5   3.142893732 f  
 3.143.33
6.659329893 f   6.665.5 3.527778932 f  
 3.523.66
8   f   8   6   4   f  
 4   4
9.513328419 f   9.516.5 4.489848188 f  
 4.494.33
11  f   11  7   5.039684188 f  
 5.044.66
13.08082658 f   13.08   7.5 5.6 f  
 5.6 5
16  f   16  8   6.285787463 f  
 6.295.33
19.02665684 f   19.03   8.5 7.07863 f  
 7.065.66
22  f   22  9   8   f  
 8   6
26.16165315 f   26.16   9.5 8.979696376 f  
 8.986.33
32  f   32  10  10.07936838 f  
 10.08   6.66
38.05331367 f   38.05   10.511  f  
 11  7
45  f   45  11  12.34708252 f  
 12.34   7.33
13.85913152 f  
 13.85   7.66
16  f  
 16  8
17.95939275 f  
 17.96   8.33
20.15873675 f  
 20.16   8.66
22  f  
 22  9
24.69416503 f  
 24.69   9.33
27.71826303 f  
 27.71   9.66
32  f  
 32  10
35.9187855  f  
 35.92   10.33
40.3174735  f  
 40.32   10.66
45  f  
 45  11


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott J. Fine
 Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:04 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: stops and scales


 You write:
 Scott J. Fine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I am under the impression that f-stops are measured in a scale that is
 either based on 1 or 1.4, as in:
 
 1, 1.4, 2, 2.8, 4.0, 5.6, 8, 11, 16, 22, 32...
 
 It's actually based on the square root of 2 (1.414) and has to
 do with how
 the area of the aperture is calculated. The f stop is the ratio of the
 aperture diameter to the focal length. An f stop of 1.0
 (theoretical) with a
 50mm lens at infinity would mean an aperture diameter of 50mm.
 If you wanted
 to halve the area of the aperture (to reduce the amount of light reaching
 the film by half), you wouldn't halve the diameter because the area of a
 circle is:
   pi x r**2. Halving the radius would result in an aperture one
 fourth the
 area (or 2 stops). Therefore, to halve the aperture area you divide the
 diameter (and therefore the radius) by the square root of 2. The
 new f stop
 becomes f/1.414 (f/1.4) as the diameter is 1/1.414 of the focal length.
 Divide by the square root of 2 again and you get an f stop of f/2 as the
 diameter is now 1/2 the focal length. Keep dividing by 

Re: Best Portrait lens for the 6x7?

2002-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist

For me,it's the 165/4 LS, not contest. Why? Simply because it allows the
use of an umbrella and strobe for fill when shooting outdoor portraits
or figures. It will do a head and shoulders portrait without an
extension tube. I sometimes use the shortest tube for tightly cropped
head shots. In 6x7 format, sharpness isn't really an issue. The 165/4 is
certainly sharper than I need for most portrait situations. I frequently
shoot through a piece of wedding vail lace when working with women. I
haven't done enough work where bokeh is a factor to comment with
certainty, but I haven't seen anything I don't like.
Paul Stenquist

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi, brothers
 I would like to know what is the better portrait lens for the 67 in your
 opinion.
 It's including sharpness, handling, bokeh, min focus distance, ability to
 do close headshots, etc, etc
 All comments welcome.
 Thanks in advance
 
 Albano
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RE: New Toys

2002-08-14 Thread Butch Black

...  I was not aware of any 1:1 adapter for any Pentax 100mm
macro.  (But I was not aware does not preclude the actual
existence of same - g.)  Are you sure it's not actually a TC or an
extension tube?

Yes, it is an extension tube. The only markings are Asahi Pentax Japan, a
small number 3 and an orange dot. It's fully coupled for pre A lenses (no
electrical contacts.
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Re: just bought a photo printer

2002-08-14 Thread Paul Stenquist

Hi JCO,
Congrats on the new printer. You're going to love it.
   Epson Professional Photo Paper in glossy finish yields excellent
results. The colors are more accurate than Ilford or Kodak glossy.
However, Ilford makes a super watercolor style paper. It's called
Ilford Fine Art Paper, and it yields beautiful prints. It's also quite
expensive. A good bargain paper is Epson Archival Matte. It's a flat
matte finish paper, and it produces very nice prints.
Paul Stenquist

J. C. O'Connell wrote:
 
 Heads up guys.
 
 Epson is now offering a $100 rebate
 on their 1280 printer. Seemed like
 a good deal so I took the plunge.
 Found one online for $417 before rebate
 so net cost is finally reasonable.
 
 Question: Can anybody recommend a
 good paper (glossy) for doing color
 and BW printing with this machine?
 
 TIA,
 JCO
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RE: Flip side: Ex: Infinity Focus problem

2002-08-14 Thread Simon King

I just checked it with another lens (135mm) and the problem's there too :-(
Is there any fix besides a CLA?
Thanks
Simon



-Original Message-
From: Jose R. Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2002 9:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Flip side: Ex: Infinity Focus problem


Simon,

You may want to check to see if your other lenses are focusing to infinity
with your camera to rule out mirror misalignment.  Or put the lens on
another body to check as well.

If the mirror is misaligned on the body, you will have focusing
inaccuracies; especially when you open up the lens (shallow depth of field).

Regards,

Jose R. Rodriguez 

 
 From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2002/08/14 Wed AM 05:11:12 CDT
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Flip side: Ex: Infinity Focus problem
 
 Hi All,
 What about a 50mm lens that doesn't quite get to infinity?
 I just went out with Sam (http://wwwstaff.murdoch.edu.au/~sking/index.htm)

 and found that my f/2 50 paired with my Super Program doesn't focus at
 infinity.
 Cheers,
 Simon
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
 
 From: David Weiss 
 Subject: Re: Infinity Focus problem 
 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 09:50:10 -0700 
 


 
 
 Rob,
 
 From what you said below, it seems that this problem does not
 really effect the ability of the lens to focus. 
 
 I am going to take a few pics and see if it does.
 
 Thanks for the information.
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 Rob said:
 
 Given this information I expect that this particular lens has
 a 
 problem. In 
 some cases, through constant use, the infinity stop can
 become worn or 
 the 
 screws fixing the components can become loose
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RE: OT: Digital Ice + Kodak TMZ

2002-08-14 Thread Butch Black

Digital ice works using an infrared light. Conventional black and white and
Kodachrome films are not transparent to IR light, E-6 and C-41 (including
chromegenic BW) are, so digital ice doesn't work with BW and Kodachrome.
We have digital ice on the Noritsu 2711 printer at work. It defeats digital
ice when using conventional BW. Having defeated that a couple of times, the
prints will often take a blurred/smeared look to them. The moral of the
story; clean your BW and kodachromes well before scanning without digital
ice.

BUTCH

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Follow-up on sluggish diaphragm problem

2002-08-14 Thread Peter Spiro

A while back I mentioned that I had seen a lens at a store, on which the 
diaphragm closed slowly even though there was no oil buildup visible on it 
(a relatively common problem with older lenses that have been exposed to 
excessive heat).

The diaphragm was distinctly sluggish, and I used that fact to bargain the 
price down (on a Pentax 35mm f/3.5, a very sharp lens -- I had one 
previously which I sold, and missed).  I brought the lens home, and began 
playing with the little lever on the back that closes down the diaphragm.  
After a couple of dozen times working it back and forth, the diaphragm 
perked up, and now it is as fast as new.   It seems that just from sitting 
in the store (on a camera, which forces it open) and the dirt buildup, it 
had become sluggish, but a little exercise brought it back to life.


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Re: LX repair update

2002-08-14 Thread Alan Chan

These repairers obviously short-cut on the sticky-mirror repair, just
replacing a few surface rubbers won't cut it, the camera has to be pulled 
right
to bits, i.e. scattered all over the work-bench. None of the many LX that I
have had repaired in OZ that had sticky-mirror have ever suffered it 
again.
These dudes are hopeless :-(

On the other hand, the old guy in CR Kenndy stripped my MDA into pieces and 
didn't bother to put it back together properly. Not to mention he charged me 
AU$180 for a 5 min fix on my MX which he latter claimed I did something to 
it and tried to shift the blame on me, when the jamming problem kept coming 
back. And he always treated me like shxt everytime I went there. Very nice, 
very nice indeed.

regards,
Alan Chan


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Re: OT: Anti-close up lenses?

2002-08-14 Thread William Kane

Andre,

   Interesting idea!  I never though of putting one of these lenses 
reversed on ANYTHING, much less a 6x7.  Let me know how your homemade 
adapter works, I'd definitly be interested.

It's definitly a C mount lens, and a C mount camera.  No way to 
change lens flange or anything.

The lens in question is a 3.3-8 mm lens.  I am now BELIEVE that the 
lens is meant to mount close to some other ocular device; such as a 
microscope or telescope.  I'm going to put it away for further use later.

IL Bill

andre wrote:
 I guess you would need to do something that is not possible: push the 
 lens inside the body...
 
 By the way, it may interest you to know that you can use 8mm and 16mm 
 cine lenses REVERSED for Triple-X macros (the pun is for lilliputians). 
 I mean 3X and over.  If this is the case, you can vary the distance of 
 the lens from the film plane with a bellow (and easily cover full frame 
 on a Pentax 67), but the distance of the subject to the front of the 
 lens (well... we could say the back as the lens is reversed) should not 
 go over the distance between a 16mm cine lens and the 16mm film in a 
 16mm camera.  This if you want the best optical quality.
 
 I don't know if this is clear...  and if it may interest some PDMLers.  
 I've got the theory (some...), I've acquired a few lenses recently, I'm 
 actually working on some home-made adapters... the practice will follow 
 within a few months I hope.
 
 Andre
 
 Hey gang,

I know this is a question that's never been asked before.  I know 
 to be able to focus CLOSER to an object, you need a close up lens . . .

. . . BUT, I have a project where I need to actually be able to 
 focus FURTHER from the lens.  The lens in question is a c-mount lens, 
 whose focus seems limited to just a few mm away from the front of the 
 lens.

I know this is an odd question, but does ANYONE know of - diopter 
 filters, or some other fix?

 Thanks,
 IL Bill
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Re: Follow-up on sluggish diaphragm problem

2002-08-14 Thread Alan Chan

Could the old grease that attracted so much dirt and becoming dry over the 
years. Still, it's a good idea to clean and relubricate it, if you can do it 
yourself.

regards,
Alan Chan

A while back I mentioned that I had seen a lens at a store, on which the 
diaphragm closed slowly even though there was no oil buildup visible on it 
(a relatively common problem with older lenses that have been exposed to 
excessive heat).

The diaphragm was distinctly sluggish, and I used that fact to bargain the 
price down (on a Pentax 35mm f/3.5, a very sharp lens -- I had one 
previously which I sold, and missed).  I brought the lens home, and began 
playing with the little lever on the back that closes down the diaphragm.  
After a couple of dozen times working it back and forth, the diaphragm 
perked up, and now it is as fast as new.   It seems that just from sitting 
in the store (on a camera, which forces it open) and the dirt buildup, it 
had become sluggish, but a little exercise brought it back to life.


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RE: just bought a photo printer

2002-08-14 Thread Cameron Hood

Epson premium glossy, once you know what you are doing. Their Lustre
paper is nice, too. I find the Epson stuff works the best, although some of
the Lumijet textured stuff is kind of fun. For test prints, and screwing
around, go to Costco and you can get packs of 100 Epson Photo paper for
about 20 bucks. It is  quite nice, but has a tendency to fade.

Oh, yeah; start looking for a second job to support your ink habit.

A great printer; you'll have lots of fun.

C.

Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:46:13 -0400
From: J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: just bought a photo printer

Heads up guys. 

Epson is now offering a $100 rebate
on their 1280 printer. Seemed like
a good deal so I took the plunge.
Found one online for $417 before rebate
so net cost is finally reasonable.

Question: Can anybody recommend a
good paper (glossy) for doing color
and BW printing with this machine?

TIA,
JCO
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