OT: Back from Wellington
Hi all, I spent the past week in windy Wellington... I went up to see the final LoTR movie at the Embassy Theatre, and my partner went to accompany me to the film and do some research at the National Archives. There was quite a bit of LoTR stuff in Wellington. A few large models had been hung on buildings, and there were some good displays at the airport. I was rather surprised by how much you can spend on merchandise if you were that way inclined. The Embassy is beautiful - and they replaced all the seats at last. I took a Pentax but since I haven't finished the film yet you'll have to wait for most of the pictures. I ended up taking the K2 with 43mm Limited and 100mm macro lenses. I didn't use them much as the weather was pretty bad most of the time. However, I did take some pics with my Palm's built-in digital camera. There's not much to see but you might find them interesting. http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/temp/welly/ I also did a bit of shopping; there should be some more news about that later in the week. Put some beer in the fridge, Cotty ;) Enjoy! Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
At 4:36 PM -0800 1/9/04, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Which 50/1.4 do you have? The M. Just developed some pictures taken with it and am very pleased. I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for my taste. Much prefer the smaller size of the K35/3.5. If you can find one, the K30/2.8 is a great compromise between size and weight and aperture, and, IMO, a better lens all around than the K35/2.0 ... since I've gotten the 30mm I rarely use the 28 or either of the 35's. I had read somewhere that the K 35/2 was one of the best of the 35's and that the M wasn't as good. I've never seen one so I don't know the size/weight difference. Not sure if I'd like the 30/2.8 as I don't really like 28's and I'd like something faster and less rare. The K24/2.8 is another fine lens, although methinks it's a bit wide for good "street photography," but I guess that depends on your definition of the practice and your shooting style. I had a 28mm 3.5 and just didn't really like it very much. Not the lens quality so much as the perspective, sorta too wide or not wide enough. Total personal preference. So I thought the 24 might be more fun. I was just flipping through some photos I'd cut from the paper, sort of documentary style stuff and many of them were pretty wide angle. Also might be nice for indoor stuff like churches etc while traveling. I'm going to keep my eye out for the 85 1.8. Thanks for all the info. Rob
Re: Rain Picture
On 9 Jan 2004 at 18:40, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > I don't control the weather, Rob, nor can I tell > when and where people should appear Sorry I mistakenly thought the pic was relative to the thread under which it was posted. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Used *istD prices (was: RE: firmware update)
On 9 Jan 2004 at 19:11, Cotty wrote: > Okay, here's the prediction. Someone copy and paste this. > > Rough average 'going rate' on eBay for used Pentax *ist D(original), body > only, in exc++ or mint- in January 2006: > > UK: £550 > US: $600 Not a great deal if they are still selling off old stock for US$650 new :-) Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Rain Picture
I don't control the weather, Rob, nor can I tell when and where people should appear Rob Studdert wrote: > On 9 Jan 2004 at 15:43, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > > > Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html > > Hi Shel, > > Nice shot, but I thought that you were after "rain" not "wet"? >
Re: Some *istD questions
Paul, CS doesn't yet support pentax RAW. Pentax uses a CCD sensor. Like you, I wasn't too interested in the istd until the new lenses could readily be used. Don't know about the RAW converter, though. Paul Stenquist wrote: > I know that the *istD has a raw file option. Does the PhotoShop CS > (PS8) RAW converter support the Pentax files? I assume Pentax has a RAW > converter. Does it offer different file size options? Is the Pentax > sensor a CMOS or a CCD? I'm sure all these topics have been covered > here, but I wasn't interested until the K lens compatibility came > along.
Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]
On 9 Jan 2004 at 19:38, William Robb wrote: > I have used a self timer perhaps twice in 30 years of photography. > This is why I don't see an issue. I've used the self time for approximately half the shots I've made using the *ist D, however as soon as I purchase a cable release it'll be different. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
There are a number of highly regarded lenses out there at reasonable prices, especially if you don't need fast glass. I have a kit of a K 28/3.5, K 35/3.5 (almost flare proof), M 50/1.4, M 100/4.0 macro, M 135/3.5, M 200/4.0, and an FA 300/4.5 (another legendary lens, very sharp). Bodies are a K 1000 and a Z-1p. Everything listed cost me less then $1000, actually between $800-$900 IIRC. KEH has a very good reputation on the list as does B&H. Butch Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hesse (Demian)
Re: Rain Picture
Hi Paul ... I think it was drizzling a bit, but the heavy rain had stopped for a while. No permission ... sometimes y'just gotta grab the shot. I got of three shots with the Sony, one of her pulling the paper from the box, and one when she was much closer to me. This was the best of the three. I did a bit of cropping as there was no time to crop in the camera. Mostly I just trimmed some of the space around the newspaper boxes and a little off the top. BTW, thanks for the car photo tips. Paul Stenquist wrote: > Nice shot, Shel. I like the framing and compositionh. Was it actually > raining or had it stopped? Did you ask permission? She seems to be > quite aware of you. > > Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html > >
Re: Rain Picture
On 9 Jan 2004 at 15:43, Shel Belinkoff wrote: > Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html Hi Shel, Nice shot, but I thought that you were after "rain" not "wet"? Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Some *istD questions
CS doesn't support PEF format. they are rumored to be supporting in an update. RAW is fixed in size and the converter is also fixed in size. you can't alter the image dimensions from RAW until it is in an image editing program. Herb - Original Message - From: "Paul Stenquist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 9:18 PM Subject: Some *istD questions > I know that the *istD has a raw file option. Does the PhotoShop CS > (PS8) RAW converter support the Pentax files? I assume Pentax has a RAW > converter. Does it offer different file size options? Is the Pentax > sensor a CMOS or a CCD? I'm sure all these topics have been covered > here, but I wasn't interested until the K lens compatibility came > along. > >
Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
On 9 Jan 2004 at 23:42, Dag T wrote: > I agree, the cost of high quality silicon wafers per area has been > constant for decades. More than doubling the area will increase the > prize, as well as the demand for calculating power, memory, speed etc. > It is in the professional prize range anyway, so why not based the FF > sensors on the 645 system. I could not agree less on both counts. Silicon wafer growth has been constantly increasing in diameter as has purity and yield, silicon even as huge wafers is getting cheaper by the day. Pentax would be fools for not implementing a 24x36 mm sensor in a 35mm camera, surely you'd expect that they'd fit a FF 645 sensor in a 645 body or are Pentax shooters that damned cheap? :-( Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: File properties
On 9 Jan 2004 at 17:35, Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: > Not exactly true, at least in case of Photoshop. It preserves EXIF data > in saved files just PS must be version 7 or later. I don't know however > how these other programs do? PS7 doesn't pass the EXIF data intact, only some information is retained. PS7 also doesn't recognize the imbedded AdobeRGB colour profile in the Pentax files. Maybe the Pentax EXIF data is a partially customized form although they do suggest compatibility with EXIF 2.21 (original documentation cites EXIF 2.2) in the documentation associated with the new firmware upgrade. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: Speaking of the moon...
On 9 Jan 2004 at 18:53, Amita Guha wrote: > I have been alerted that the moon is huge and orange tonight. I'm > waiting for it to rise to where I can see it so I can shoot it. Did > someone mention having an extra 1.4x converter for sale? :) Hi Amita, Generally the moon doesn't change colour, the cheese is a constant :-) That said local atmospheric pollutants do effect the apparent colour, we have bush- fires in Sydney at the moment and the moon is a deep orange. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Re: A couple of istD questions
On 9 Jan 2004 at 19:58, Herb Chong wrote: > the DPreview site suggested the other way around. A guy I know well (me) tested it and came to the the exact opposite conclusion reached by DPReview. I don't know what they did wrong, Darios tests also highlighted the problems with the Pentax RAW convertor. The Genzo RAW convertor did a very similar job to the in camera JPG/TIFF WRT edge smoothing but the colour is more difficult to control plus the interface is much worse than the Pentax software (which is bad to start with). Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
RE: digital imaging question
On 9 Jan 2004 at 14:05, J. C. O'Connell wrote: > I do that too, but I am talking about when you > capture/scan the original. Not what you do to > it afterward. Try to modify the contrast in order to stretch the histogram in the scanner software or camera. If this is not possible then bias the exposure towards the right of the histogram (almost saturate) as you'll likely end up with less noise in your shadows when you adjust levels. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
Some *istD questions
I know that the *istD has a raw file option. Does the PhotoShop CS (PS8) RAW converter support the Pentax files? I assume Pentax has a RAW converter. Does it offer different file size options? Is the Pentax sensor a CMOS or a CCD? I'm sure all these topics have been covered here, but I wasn't interested until the K lens compatibility came along.
RE: Missing Clear Plastic Piece on Pentax FA Lens
That piece of plastic (so to the FA* lenses' metal frame) is held by a piece of high strength double-sided tape. It can peel itself off sometimes, although rare for non-FA* lenses. If the lens itself is free from any dent, it should be safe. Regards, Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan If the clear plastic piece that covers the numbers on a Pentax FA lens is missing, is that an indication that it was probably dropped hard enough that it might be optically compromised, or do those clear plastic pieces sometimes fall off on their own? Or...? Should I be concerned about a Pentax FA lens that is missing that piece? _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Missing Clear Plastic Piece on Pentax FA Lens
If the clear plastic piece that covers the numbers on a Pentax FA lens is missing, is that an indication that it was probably dropped hard enough that it might be optically compromised, or do those clear plastic pieces sometimes fall off on their own? Or...? Should I be concerned about a Pentax FA lens that is missing that piece? Thanks, Greg
Re: Rain Picture
Nice shot, Shel. I like the framing and compositionh. Was it actually raining or had it stopped? Did you ask permission? She seems to be quite aware of you. On Jan 9, 2004, at 6:43 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html
Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]
- Original Message - From: "mapson" Subject: Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2] > > > > To be able to combine timer and bracketing - now it only takes 1, not 3, > > > photo when fired off the timer > > > >I don't see a purpose for this. Explain why this would be useful please. > > > > Give me one good reason why not. I suppose because I couldn't see a reason for it. > > You want to do a tripod shot, using timer. At the same time you want to > bracket. Whey should ou be limited? I have used a self timer perhaps twice in 30 years of photography. This is why I don't see an issue. William Robb
Re: Question or better yet, idea
- Original Message - From: "Bob W" Subject: Re: Question or better yet, idea > Hi, > > > The new firmware fix gives you better than stop down metering. It > > is a nice solution. > > I don't generally follow ist-d threads, so forgive me if I'm repeating > something, or if I've missed something about the ist-d. > > It sounds to me like a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist anyway. > In other words, a kludge. The camera came with a kludge way of using non A lenses. The firmware upgrade takes most of this away. William Robb
Re: firmware update
- Original Message - From: "J. C. O'Connell" Subject: RE: firmware update > Does this mean that future Pentax DSLRs may fully support > K/M lenses for a while? Rhetorical. I still hope so. I doubt if I would buy another digital SLR unless it does offer full K/M support. OTOH, I doubted if I would buy an ist D. I think I was the one that called it a one legged whore or some such. William Robb
Re: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4
- Original Message - From: "Rothman, Aric" Subject: RE: FS Friday: 50mm f/1.4 > William, > > Thanks for the info. I wended my way back through recent messages and found the details. The ist-D keeps looking > better and better. I really enjoyed working with it at the store. The problem is, Pentax lenses seem hard to come by, > at least here in the US. Does Pentax have a greater presence elsewhere? I am planning a trip to Europe this year, and > would love to go on a Pentax glass shopping spree. Local camera store/shows don't often have Pentax-made lenses, just > the third party stuff. I tend to use either eBay or KEH. William Robb
Re: For sale Friday
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: For sale Friday > A couple of interesting flashes: > > > >Cokin Creative Flash > > > >Sunpak 120J Bare Bulb kit > > Have any of you ever used a bare bulb strobe? I know Greywolf has a Norman, > but that doesn't count. I once had a Vivitar 5600 with bare bulb head, was > obsessed with the idea of fill-in for ultrawides, but never got down & dirty with > it. Besides, iirc, the Vivitar's output was puny. I have used bare bulb with my Photogenics for interiors. Worked quite well. William Robb
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
- Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" Subject: RE: Unusual subjects to photograph. > mike wilson wrote: > > > About 15years ago I found two whole Triumph Bonnevilles in a > > skip. As far as I know, they are still running. > > That is both amazing and very sad. Who on earth would throw away a Triumph > Bonneville, let alone two of them? A better question is, who in their right mind would buy one in the first place? William Robb
Re: version 1.1
- Original Message - From: "Tom Lesser" Subject: Re: version 1.1 > >Now, with the lens off "A", putting the camera into manual and pressing the > >green button will give the "correct" shutter speed. > > I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in "off A" > apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is > a flashing "Av--" in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing > "Av--" whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out > there? Have you got the custom function set to allow shutter release with the lens off A? The upgrade allows any lens to be used off the A position, no matter what series it is. William Robb
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
On Jan 9, 2004, at 7:36 PM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm not crazy about the K35/2.0 ... oh, it's a fine optic when stopped down a bit, and i even like it wide open, but it's a little large for my taste. Hi Shel, I agree with your assessment of the K35/2.0. On the other hand, the M35/2.0 is a very nice lens and is quite compact. It's one of my most frequently used lenses.
RE: A low end Pentax DSLR coming this year
Hmm, wonder what features it will omit apart from the stainless steel chassis? If I was running the Baby D project then I would probably want to remove as many "advanced" features as possible to prevent cannibalization of *ist D sales. * So, no compatability with non A lenses (or M42 etc.) * Just Green mode, Aperture Priority and Shutter Priority * Delete one of the manual control wheels (probably the rear one) as only one is now needed. * Only one metering mode * No AF point selection * Only one set of CF settings, not three. * bundle it with a DA zoom to keep it small & light I'd also try and get it smaller than the *ist D if I could, but maybe use the same battery grip (make money on the accessories). Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia -Original Message- From: Alan Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Another Pentax DSLR will be released this year at 1/2 the price of the *ist D. The new model will be made of plastic to reduce the manufacturing cost.
Re: relative pricing (Was: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #116)
My experience in the U.K., several trips over the last 22 years, has convinced me that the currency is irrelevant. Only the unit matters. Which is to say, anything that costs $10 retail in the U.S. will cost about 10 pounds (can't find the pound symbol mutter mutter). It doesn't surprise me to hear that auction prices track along the same way. Actually, my theory extends beyond the U.S. and the U.K. A couple of years ago I was in Australia, happened to find myself in a wine shop. Saw a Yellow Tail Merlot for $AUS5.99. A few months later I saw Yellow Tail Merlot in my local shop for $US5.98. And then a few weeks later I was in London and noted Yellow Tail Merlot in the front window of a wine shop, on special for 5.95 pounds. I imagine you can buy the same wine for 5.97 Euros... Stan Steve Jolly wrote: Cotty wrote: UK: £550 US: $600 That seems too close in exchange rate. Or, are you expecting the dollar to gain on the pound that much over the next year, Cotty? > Fred, follow a few UK eBay auctions - you'll get my drift Indeed, curiously, UK auction prices seem to be generally the same as US ones plus VAT, Import Duty and trans-Atlantic shipping costs. I suspect economics at work rather than material for a conspiracy theory though. Older and grumpier men than I call it "rip-off Britain" :-) S
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
You would probably do well to get in touch with 'Old House Journal' in the USA. They have done a great job with helping preserve neighborhoods in the US, or , at least, keeping exteriors in character whilst the interiors are renewed! - Original Message - From: "John Coyle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:36 PM Subject: Re: Unusual subjects to photograph. > Gentrification and 'urban renewal' are something that I have been working > with other local people to try and control in my suburb. Many fine old > 'Queenslander' houses have been knocked down and either modern rubbish or > 'Tuscan' monstrosities have taken their place. Worse than the loss of > character is the loss of affordable housing and diversity in the suburb, > which I moved to because of it's character. > In order to make the point, another photographer and I have recorded over > 300 images of places under threat or (now) gone. Unfortunately, property > prices here have increased by 300% in the last ten years, so it's hard to > convince people not to realise their property's value. > > John Coyle > Brisbane, Australia > - Original Message - > From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:05 AM > Subject: RE: Unusual subjects to photograph. > > > > > I have recorded the changes in my local area for the better part of three > > decades now, and the number of beautiful buildings and Victorian and > > Edwardian houses that have met the demolition ball over the years is a > > scandal. The hideous monstrosities that have replaced them is making the > > area featureless and anonymous. > > > > Is anyone else recording anything that we can show to our grandchildren > and > > say 'our generation ruined or destroyed (choose appropriate word) this for > > you'. > > > > Malcolm > > > > > >
Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Cotty, having driven many times past dead dingoes and other Aussie wild-life, that image makes me cringe! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pentax list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:26 PM Subject: Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount > On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >I have a container of Heinz brand Horseradish Sauce here in front of me. > >Replaces ketchup on almost anything I can think of. > >It is NOT just for slathering on roast beef, prime rib, etc... > >It does have soy and egg yolks, which are the allergens one might be > >sensitive to, but other than that, it has an excellent bite, and a great > >taste! > >You really owe it to yourself to try it, if you're a serious pepper or > >mustard enthusiast. > >Outstanding stuff! > > > >Trust me! > > I trust you. Problem is, afterwards your breath smells like you've been > sucking farts out of a dead dingo > > ;-) > > > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk >
Re: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Gentrification and 'urban renewal' are something that I have been working with other local people to try and control in my suburb. Many fine old 'Queenslander' houses have been knocked down and either modern rubbish or 'Tuscan' monstrosities have taken their place. Worse than the loss of character is the loss of affordable housing and diversity in the suburb, which I moved to because of it's character. In order to make the point, another photographer and I have recorded over 300 images of places under threat or (now) gone. Unfortunately, property prices here have increased by 300% in the last ten years, so it's hard to convince people not to realise their property's value. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia - Original Message - From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 8:05 AM Subject: RE: Unusual subjects to photograph. > > I have recorded the changes in my local area for the better part of three > decades now, and the number of beautiful buildings and Victorian and > Edwardian houses that have met the demolition ball over the years is a > scandal. The hideous monstrosities that have replaced them is making the > area featureless and anonymous. > > Is anyone else recording anything that we can show to our grandchildren and > say 'our generation ruined or destroyed (choose appropriate word) this for > you'. > > Malcolm > >
RE: Now that the ist-D firmware has been upgraded...
My version of praise was to buy the *ist D. They gave me what I wanted, so I bought it. I haven't installed the patch yet, but am very happy with it. I was planning on buying an FA35/2 to replace an M35/2 and was just about to pull apart a K50/1.2 to remove the spring that holds the aperture open. Now it seems I have a spare 50/1.2 to sell. Paul Ewins Melbourne, Australia -Original Message- From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OTOH, I do think that most of us would recommend the *ist D, which is the practical version of praise. Like someone here has already said, the very existence of the firmware upgrade is a very reassuring event.
Re: "Cloudy" filter
it should be a slightly darker than normal Skylight. think of it as a lighter 81 filter. Herb - Original Message - From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:19 PM Subject: "Cloudy" filter > The K18/3.5 has a few built-in filters, as i imagine a few other lenses > have as well. One is a "cloudy" filter. OK, I'm ignorant: what does a > cloudy filter do?
Re[2]: File properties
Hello Stan, My Elements V2 saves MOST of the info, but not all of it. Same with several other programs. Things like capture mode, white balance, AF mode, Saturation, Sharpness, etc get lost. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, January 9, 2004, 4:11:35 PM, you wrote: SH> Photoshop Elements 2 saves the exif info. SH> stan SH> Sylwester Pietrzyk wrote: >> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Bruce Dayton wrote: >> >> >>>Are you referring to the *istD? All the camera settings are visible >>>in the EXIF information provided you have downloaded the images >>>without any kind of saving (just copying), they can be read with >>>Pentax Photo Browser. Once a program saves the file (photoshop, PWP, >>>PSP) including rotation software, then the information you are wanting >>>to see is lost. Best approach is to treat the original images just like >>>negatives. Always make a copy for altering. >>> >> >> Not exactly true, at least in case of Photoshop. It preserves EXIF data >> in saved files just PS must be version 7 or later. I don't know however >> how these other programs do? >>
Re: digital imaging question
the Nikon 4000ED has autoexposure and i find that with Provia 100F, i have never had to override it. with Velvia, i sometimes have had to add some exposure to get extra shadow detail and let the highlights go a little. Herb - Original Message - From: "Dag T" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:09 PM Subject: Re: digital imaging question > It depends on the film. I certainly would with Velvia, but I´ve never > used it. The films I´ve used most, Provia 100F and Agfa 50 RSX are > neutral and easy to scan with this scanner, which has a very good Dmax. > > As it hits on target in most cases I scan in normal 16bit mode first. > Afterwards I see if the highlights and shadows are good compared to the > original. If they are, all the details from the film is in the scan, > and I can do the rest in Photoshop. If not, I adjust the scan.
Re: FAT
on average, you waste half a cluster per file. the larger the files, the smaller the percentage. Herb - Original Message - From: "Robert Gonzalez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:55 PM Subject: Re: FAT > Yeah, I knew that FAT16 wasted more space than FAT32 for lots of small > files, and of course it had a much smaller limitation on max file/volume > size. I thought that it also wasted space basically proportional to the > size of the file, i.e. small files on the average wasted space that was > proportionally small, but had a big impact when you had lots of them. > So don't bigger (Mb) files waste on the average the same space as a > percentage? I.e. if you allocate a file that *just* gets into the next > sized cluster, isn't a large part wasted?
"Cloudy" filter
The K18/3.5 has a few built-in filters, as i imagine a few other lenses have as well. One is a "cloudy" filter. OK, I'm ignorant: what does a cloudy filter do?
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
If I'd have really cared to know, I'd have found out. But thanks for the, er, colourful simile, Shel. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:21:50 -0800 Firmware is software on Viagra ... frank theriault wrote: > [...] > already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some > new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old. _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >oday's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some >new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) Firmware is part of the software running the electronics of the camera. Firmwear is what Frank has on under his trousers during a particularly arduous ride over those Torontonian pot-holes. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]
mapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At 10:06 AM 9/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: >>mapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >The things I would like to have fixed : >> > >> >When lens ring not at A, to have the aperture value displayed, instead >> of "--" >> >>Not possible. The camera body has no way of knowing. > >Z-1p knew. So, what is stopping *istD? The *ist doesn't have the aperture sensor tab in the lens mount. Remove the lens from a PZ-1p and find the tab around the two o'clock position in the lens mount. Now remove the lens from an *ist-D and look in the same area. It isn't there. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: Rain Picture
Very nice! Great exposure, sharp as a tack, color looks great, too. My monitor is calibrated. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > -Original Message- > From: Shel Belinkoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:43 PM > To: PDML > Subject: Rain Picture > > > Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome > > http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html >
Re: pentax-discuss-d Digest V04 #116
On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> UK: £550 >> US: $600 > >That seems too close in exchange rate. Or, are you expecting the >dollar to gain on the pound that much over the next year, Cotty? > >Fred Fred, follow a few UK eBay auctions - you'll get my drift Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Speaking of the moon...
I have been alerted that the moon is huge and orange tonight. I'm waiting for it to rise to where I can see it so I can shoot it. Did someone mention having an extra 1.4x converter for sale? :) Amita
Re: Soon to be new istD owners
I'm considering it as well. Most of my Pentax 35mm lenses are K versions. I could use the *istD for some of the work I do as well as for personal photography. I might be able to use it for a lot of the work I do with "res up" software. On my day job I use photos taken by other people. Clint Clemens shot some cars for one of my projects with a 10 megapixel Canon and increased the resolution to yield 125 megabyte files that looked great. That means I cold get nice 40 meg files with an *istD and the right software. Clint wouldn't say what software he uses but I would guess it's genuine fractals. Anyway, to make a long story short I might buy now. On Jan 9, 2004, at 1:08 AM, Shel Belinkoff wrote: So, how many of the list are now considering the istD now that it will work better with the K and M lenses? I'm now giving it some thought. shel
Re: Soon to be new istD owners
So, how many of the list are now considering the istD now that it will work better with the K and M lenses? I'm now giving it some thought. shel I was rather waiting for a price drop as I knew I could live with this shortcoming by unscrewing the K and M lenses. Still, it is a better camera now... Andre
Re: Truth in photography (was: OT - Digital B/W or Colour ?)
My Welsh friend sent me a tape with two of Tony's shows on it, from The Best of Tony Hancock: The Blood Donor, and The Radio Ham. Hilarious! keith whaley * * * Cotty wrote: > > >> Kevin! You paint with light! Cor swipe me! > >> > >> Are you saying that you don't take snaps??? > >> > >> One day I'm going to have to digitize the Tony Hancock sketch with all > >> this in and you can all have a listen... > > > >I am not sure what I have done to upset you, but whatever it was I can > >assure you it was unintentional. At no time to I set forward to > >deliberately upset people. What ever the issue is, if you would like > >to contact me off the list, I would be more than happy to discuss any > >issue you have with my behavior on this list. > > > >Again, my sincere apologies > >Kevin > > Er, I think there has been a small misunderstanding - a while back > (actually might be more than a while) I used to have a sig that said: > > Swipe me! He paints with light! > > it is a line from a Tony Hancock (Brit comedian from the 50s/60s) radio > show called 'Hancock's Half Hour'. They did sketches and skits and one > was about a la-di-da society photographer doing some of Hancock's latest > publicity stills. In the sketch, Hancock and his manager (Sydney James) > encounter photographer Hilary St Claire (played by Kenneth Williams) and > the following exchange takes place... > > - > > Syd: Yeah, well. Look Hilary, I've got a customer here for you. > > Hilary: (eyeing Hancock) Rather perculiar friends you have Sydney. Most > quaint. > > Syd: Yeah, well, don't start a punch-up Hilary. I want you to take some snaps. > > Hilary: Snaps, Sydney?? I don't take snaps! I paint with light! > > Tony: (mocking in a high-pitched voice) Oh swipe me, he paints with > light! (pause - aside to Syd) Paints with light. > > Hilary: I don't think I like your friend Sydney. I wish I hadn't snapped, > I mean photographed him. I think I should open the camera and let the > light in! > > Syd: Now calm down Hilary. All we want is a set of publicity photos. I > want you to get the best out of him. > > Hilary: Oh, let's have a look then. (to Hancock) I say, you. Stand under > my arc lights. Hmm. Turn around. Ugh! Heavens. I'm going to have to use a > lot of shadow. There's sort of a lot to hide, isn't there! > > -- > > I used to have this on my website. I stupidly forget that not everyone on > the PDML knows everything that I have previously written, and so it is me > who must apologise. > > If you'd like to read the whole sketch, please email me off list and I > will email it to you, and anyone else that would like to see it, lest we > disturb Mr Dayton with the dreaded British humour :-) > > Best, > > Cheers, > Cotty > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: ist D report
My response: Right On! People spend to much time metering and not enough time pressing the shutter release! Leonard Paris wrote: > Recomposing should not require hitting the green button a second time. I > always meter and focus on the most important feature then lock and recompose > before firing. Works for me and should work under most circumstances. Of > course, I'm sure that that may be way too general for some and they'll all > chime in with those few exceptional circumstances. My response? Sour > grapes! >
Rain Picture
Just a quick grab shot taken earlier today ... comments welcome http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/images/paper.html
Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
It won't always be a $7000 camera. Digital stufff tends to decrease in price over time. Look at computer prices. Lenses may never get cheaper, however. Eventually, they are going to almost give the cameras away to get you locked into their lenses. For example, look at printer prices. A good printer can be had for not too much cash. It's the ink and paper that they make the real money from. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:31:44 -0500 but then they are compromising again and there will be the same issue with wide-angle focal lengths, etc. Canon has a full frame sensor. How could the Canon user-base afford such a camera? it's a $7000 camera. - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip? > - Original Message - > From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > 35mm K-bayonet > > > > why would you put it in anything else? > > Until only a few hours ago I thought exactly the same thing, but then > someone (in another thread) pointed out that the cost of a FF digicamera > would be prohibitive to practically all of the current Pentax K customer > base. I suspect Pentax would have a much larger potential for a 24x36 chip > based camera if it was directed towards their 645 customer base. > > Cheers, > Jostein > > > _
RE: ist D report
Recomposing should not require hitting the green button a second time. I always meter and focus on the most important feature then lock and recompose before firing. Works for me and should work under most circumstances. Of course, I'm sure that that may be way too general for some and they'll all chime in with those few exceptional circumstances. My response? Sour grapes! Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Hello all, I just downloaded and installed the update for *ist D 1.10. When you follow the instructions and push on the green button, the aperture closes down to that which you have set, and the camera sets the appropriate shutter speed. Then, it opens the aperture and waits for you to do anything (i.e. recomposing the shot will require remetering (hitting the green button)) IL Bill _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Rob, Try: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (all Spotmatic bodies, lenses and such.) Also: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (all K-mount lenses and bodies, no matter where made.) keith whaley Frits Wüthrich wrote: > > Yes, there is, that is this list (also). > > On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 19:37, Pentax wrote: > > Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million times. > > > > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog > > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Rob > -- > Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: Two Things That P***ed Me Off Today!
Because the pic looks like crap on my monitor, and on the calibrated PS monitor, and before passing judgment i wanted to understand how the photo was made before being posted here. Don't want to criticize you for a software problem since I know you're using someone elses computer, etc. frank theriault wrote: > Hi, Shel, > > I scanned it from an 8x10 print on my crappy scanner (Epson 636) using the > crappy software that's in this computer (by MGI or someone like that - too > lazy to look). > > Why do you ask? >
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
I'd venture to say that most lists tend to discuss the new stuff. This list has a much higher discussion of old equipment than most other lists have. Of course, the solution is to ask the questions and get the answers. Nobody should just hang around lurking and waiting for someone else to ask their question for them. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Chaso DeChaso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 14:20:36 -0800 (PST) > > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is > just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob > >..list is leaning towards the digital side today... > >Christian Just today, huh? Not, say, since the moment the *ist-d was released...or perhaps announced? Chaso __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus _ Take advantage of our limited-time introductory offer for dial-up Internet access. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Firmware is software on Viagra ... frank theriault wrote: > [...] > already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some > new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old.
Re: Question or better yet, idea
I think someone ought to hold their feet to the fire, so they come up with a compatibility scheme to hook all my SMC K-mount lenses to my Optio-S4! Now, there's an idea whose time has come! Not that there's anything wrong with YOUR idea, Boris, but this one came immediately to mind, so I had to bring it up. keith whaley Boris Liberman wrote: > > Hi! > > Pentax has proved by giving an example that a camera with crippled > mount is not really so crippled. I wonder, whether they can produce an > firmware upgrade for *ist, MZ-30 and similar cameras... > > Especially, with compatibility with M and K lenses, *ist may become > quite attractive camera, right? > > What do you say? > > Boris
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Hi, Rob, Have you been here? http://stans-photography.info/ Our very own Stan Halpin's site. It's likely the best on the 'net for Pentax bayonet mount lenses. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 18:02:08 -0500 At 5:30 PM -0500 1/9/04, frank theriault wrote: There's also a YahooGroups Spotmatic list. Again, not quite so active as this one. So, Rob, what older Pentax gear are do you have/are you interested in talking about? I've got an MX. Mostly I'm interested in just seeing what people have to say about lenses. I've found some lens review sites around on the web and many of them are compilations of comments from this list so I figured I'd go right to the source and see what was going on. Just started shooting with the MX again after a year of shooting exclusively with a Rolleicord V and wanted to get a coupla lenses to compliment the 50/1.4. Probably something shorter and something longer with the same build quality and a similiar look and feel to photos (good bokeh, mostly shooting at or near wide open). Something that goes well with Tri-X for handheld, available light, street and travel photography. Maybe the 24/2.8 and one of the 85's or 100's. Three seems like the perfect number. Can bring them all without much overlap. Though the K 35/2 is also appealing... Maybe add an LX sometime in the distant future. Rob _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: ist D report
Why ... has the light changed between metering and recomposing? If not, you don't have to meter again. "Mr. William M Kane" wrote: > Hello all, > > I just downloaded and installed the update for *ist D 1.10. When > you follow the instructions and push on the green button, the aperture > closes down to that which you have set, and the camera sets the > appropriate shutter speed. Then, it opens the aperture and waits for > you to do anything (i.e. recomposing the shot will require remetering > (hitting the green button)) > > IL Bill
Re: version 1.1
If an M lens works, a K lens will work. On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:19 PM, Bill Owens wrote: It says M lenses, doesn't mention K.
RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
I'm guessing that the average age of listmembers is about 45. Some of us digibrats are on the high side of the average. :-) Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 Sorry, you're just going to have the put up with the digibrats. Regards, Bob... _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com
Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]
> To be able to combine timer and bracketing - now it only takes 1, not 3, > photo when fired off the timer I don't see a purpose for this. Explain why this would be useful please. Give me one good reason why not. You want to do a tripod shot, using timer. At the same time you want to bracket. Whey should ou be limited? (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: version 1.1
Thanks Bill, After reading the initial release (and being totally unfamiliar with the *istD) i was wonder4ing if this change would improve K lens compatability. This is very good news and may cause me to rethink the *istD. On Jan 8, 2004, at 10:59 PM, William Robb wrote: Friends, we have improved K-mount compatability. Now, with the lens off "A", putting the camera into manual and pressing the green button will give the "correct" shutter speed. EV comp im manual is a nice touch. The ist D camera just got a whole lot better. William Robb
Re: Firmware 1.1 good but not perfect :-( [wishlist for 1.2]
At 10:06 AM 9/01/2004 -0500, you wrote: mapson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The things I would like to have fixed : > >When lens ring not at A, to have the aperture value displayed, instead of "--" Not possible. The camera body has no way of knowing. Z-1p knew. So, what is stopping *istD? (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
At 5:30 PM -0500 1/9/04, frank theriault wrote: There's also a YahooGroups Spotmatic list. Again, not quite so active as this one. So, Rob, what older Pentax gear are do you have/are you interested in talking about? I've got an MX. Mostly I'm interested in just seeing what people have to say about lenses. I've found some lens review sites around on the web and many of them are compilations of comments from this list so I figured I'd go right to the source and see what was going on. Just started shooting with the MX again after a year of shooting exclusively with a Rolleicord V and wanted to get a coupla lenses to compliment the 50/1.4. Probably something shorter and something longer with the same build quality and a similiar look and feel to photos (good bokeh, mostly shooting at or near wide open). Something that goes well with Tri-X for handheld, available light, street and travel photography. Maybe the 24/2.8 and one of the 85's or 100's. Three seems like the perfect number. Can bring them all without much overlap. Though the K 35/2 is also appealing... Maybe add an LX sometime in the distant future. Rob
Re: A low end Pentax DSLR coming this year
Sounds like gibberish to me! keith whaley Alan Chan wrote: > > Another Pentax DSLR will be released this year at 1/2 the price of the *ist > D. The new model will be made of plastic to reduce the manufacturing cost. I > have copied the translation below. > > http://www.jij.co.jp/news/car/art-20031225202640-GQXZLDNFQD.nwc > > Regards, > Alan Chan > http://www.pbase.com/wlachan > > > A pen tack, the low price model injection which will be a lens exchange > formula digital camera also at next year (Nihon Kogyo Shimbun 2003/12/26) > > A pen tack supplies the low price model for beginners also in next year as > part of the sales promotion strategy of a lens exchange formula digital > single-lens reflex camera. Although the lens exchange formula digital > single-lens reflex camera market monopolizes the market mostly with market > share about 80% at two companies, NIKON and Canon, a pen tack is supplying a > low price model, and aims at the improvement in a market share in this > market. > > A pen tack will enter into a lens exchange formula digital single lens > reflex camera market in August, this year. "pen tack *ISUTO D" of No. 1 -- > the amount of these weights -- the world -- the maximum -- having held down > to 550g which becomes lightweight -- the feature It developed adopting as a > main part material the stainless steel which has lightweight and high > durability etc. for a photographer, a pro called a report, or upper persons. > > Since the expensive material was used, the main part price became a large > sum setup 200,000 yen order. > > The company judges that it is necessary to throw in the goods of the low > price belt which can also purchase an amateur layer easily, in order to > expand the foot of a lens exchange formula digital single lens reflex > camera. It decided to decide on the injection of a low price model. It > designs so that it can equip with the interchangeable lens undecidedly [ > detailed spec. ] for the lens exchange formula film single-lens reflex > cameras of the company where the lens mount portion shipped the 6,500,000 [ > about ] total but. Although a price will be packed from now on, it is > expected that it becomes just over or below 100,000 yen. > > Because a lens exchange formula digital single lens reflex camera can expect > sale of accessories, such as an interchangeable lens with thick profit > margin besides a large sum main part, and a flash, the new goods from the > competition other companies, such as NIKON which has entered into this > market, and Canon, Olympus, are also likely to be thrown in one after > another. > > _ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
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Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
frank theriault wrote: As someone already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old. I guess heavily-starched shirts would count as firm-wear... or motorcycle armour? Hmm, I'll stop there, I think ;-) S
Re: Vs: 50mm Pentax Screwmount
Ahhh, but you're the only one who can identify one, and tell the difference! keith Cotty wrote: > > On 8/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >I have a container of Heinz brand Horseradish Sauce here in front of me. > >Replaces ketchup on almost anything I can think of. > >It is NOT just for slathering on roast beef, prime rib, etc... > >It does have soy and egg yolks, which are the allergens one might be > >sensitive to, but other than that, it has an excellent bite, and a great > >taste! > >You really owe it to yourself to try it, if you're a serious pepper or > >mustard enthusiast. > >Outstanding stuff! > > > >Trust me! > > I trust you. Problem is, afterwards your breath smells like you've been > sucking farts out of a dead dingo > > ;-) > > Cheers, > Cotty > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 23.23 skrev Jostein: - Original Message - From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 35mm K-bayonet why would you put it in anything else? Until only a few hours ago I thought exactly the same thing, but then someone (in another thread) pointed out that the cost of a FF digicamera would be prohibitive to practically all of the current Pentax K customer base. I suspect Pentax would have a much larger potential for a 24x36 chip based camera if it was directed towards their 645 customer base. I agree, the cost of high quality silicon wafers per area has been constant for decades. More than doubling the area will increase the prize, as well as the demand for calculating power, memory, speed etc. It is in the professional prize range anyway, so why not based the FF sensors on the 645 system. The wide angle problem can be solved, and you need the upper class of the 135 lenses to get any quality at all from an FF camera, so why not use the 645 lenses? DagT
Re: Two Things That P***ed Me Off Today!
Hi, Shel, I scanned it from an 8x10 print on my crappy scanner (Epson 636) using the crappy software that's in this computer (by MGI or someone like that - too lazy to look). Why do you ask? BTW, I gotta contact you off list about that photoshop thing we were talking about. -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Two Things That P***ed Me Off Today! Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 20:16:23 -0800 Hi Frank ... Before commenting I'd like to know what this image was taken from: did you scan the film yourself and use an editing program to make the photo web ready? Did someone else do the scan and give you a CD from which you posted the pic? You mentioned a contact sheet ... is this image taken from the sheet and blown up, or was a print made and then scanned for posting? If so, who scanned the print? shel _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: version 1.1
That is probably normal. What should change is shutter speed. Bill - Original Message - From: "Frits Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:04 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 > I assume the update is only for MSMC-M and SMC lenses, not for A > If you want to use the lens off the A position, you need to set that in > the menu. AT least in V1.00, I assume that didn't change. > > On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 22:59, Tom Lesser wrote: > > >Now, with the lens off "A", putting the camera into manual and pressing the > > >green button will give the "correct" shutter speed. > > > > I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in "off A" > > apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is > > a flashing "Av--" in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing > > "Av--" whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out > > there? > > > > Yes, the upgrade installation appears to have been successful ... > > when I hold down the Menu button and switch the camera ON, its says > > Version 1.1. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Tom Lesser > -- > Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >
Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
but then they are compromising again and there will be the same issue with wide-angle focal lengths, etc. Canon has a full frame sensor. How could the Canon user-base afford such a camera? it's a $7000 camera. - Original Message - From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip? > - Original Message - > From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > 35mm K-bayonet > > > > why would you put it in anything else? > > Until only a few hours ago I thought exactly the same thing, but then > someone (in another thread) pointed out that the cost of a FF digicamera > would be prohibitive to practically all of the current Pentax K customer > base. I suspect Pentax would have a much larger potential for a 24x36 chip > based camera if it was directed towards their 645 customer base. > > Cheers, > Jostein > > >
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
There's also a YahooGroups Spotmatic list. Again, not quite so active as this one. So, Rob, what older Pentax gear are do you have/are you interested in talking about? I've got Spotmatics, an LX and an MX. There are many here with those cameras, and many other beloved older Pentaxes. As someone already mentioned, today's a high traffic digi-day, with the release of some new firmwear (whatever the hell that is) only a few hours old. They'll calm down, and you'll see a bit of film talk again. cheers, frank -frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: "Robert Chiasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 17:47:37 -0400 Yes - there's a K1000 list at Yahoo (among others). But it doesn't seem nearly as active as this one. - Original Message - From: "Leonard Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > No. > > Len > --- > * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 > > >From: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Is there an analog only Pentax list? > >Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:37:32 -0500 > > > >Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million > >times. > > > >Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog and > >preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > > >Thanks. > > > >Rob > > _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
Check the archives. There has been plenty of film talk since September. Christian - Original Message - From: "Chaso DeChaso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >..list is leaning towards the digital side today... > > > >Christian > > > Just today, huh? Not, say, since the moment the > *ist-d was released...or perhaps announced? > > Chaso
Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
- Original Message - From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 35mm K-bayonet > > why would you put it in anything else? Until only a few hours ago I thought exactly the same thing, but then someone (in another thread) pointed out that the cost of a FF digicamera would be prohibitive to practically all of the current Pentax K customer base. I suspect Pentax would have a much larger potential for a 24x36 chip based camera if it was directed towards their 645 customer base. Cheers, Jostein
ist D report
Hello all, I just downloaded and installed the update for *ist D 1.10. When you follow the instructions and push on the green button, the aperture closes down to that which you have set, and the camera sets the appropriate shutter speed. Then, it opens the aperture and waits for you to do anything (i.e. recomposing the shot will require remetering (hitting the green button)) IL Bill
Re: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
> > Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is > just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob > >..list is leaning towards the digital side today... > >Christian Just today, huh? Not, say, since the moment the *ist-d was released...or perhaps announced? Chaso __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
Re: FAT
Thats interesting to know. Its been a while since I read about the details. For some reason I had thought that they used a variable sized cluster scheme, but that must be another file system I'm thinking about. In that case, changing to FAT32 will probably not have much of an effect on RAW files stored per card. I'll test it anyways to see how they stack up against each other. rg Mark Roberts wrote: Robert Gonzalez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yeah, I knew that FAT16 wasted more space than FAT32 for lots of small files, and of course it had a much smaller limitation on max file/volume size. I thought that it also wasted space basically proportional to the size of the file, i.e. small files on the average wasted space that was proportionally small, but had a big impact when you had lots of them. So don't bigger (Mb) files waste on the average the same space as a percentage? I.e. if you allocate a file that *just* gets into the next sized cluster, isn't a large part wasted? No, files don't waste space as a percentage - it's a fixed amount, rounding up to the next block. That's why it's so much more wasteful with small files than big ones. With 64k blocks, even a 1k file will occupy 64k. A 12.0001 megabyte file will occupy 12 megabytes plus 64k. Hardly significant.
Re: digital imaging question
It depends on the film. I certainly would with Velvia, but I´ve never used it. The films I´ve used most, Provia 100F and Agfa 50 RSX are neutral and easy to scan with this scanner, which has a very good Dmax. As it hits on target in most cases I scan in normal 16bit mode first. Afterwards I see if the highlights and shadows are good compared to the original. If they are, all the details from the film is in the scan, and I can do the rest in Photoshop. If not, I adjust the scan. DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 22.29 skrev J. C. O'Connell: You dont set the exposure level during scanning? I certainly do. JCO -Original Message- From: Dag T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I rarely do anything during scanning. Only of the slide is particularly difficult, but Provia 100F is a very easy film to scan with the Minolta Elite II, so it doesn´t happen often. As I scan in 16bit Photoshop has enough information to work on later. DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 20.05 skrev J. C. O'Connell: I do that too, but I am talking about when you capture/scan the original. Not what you do to it afterward.
Re: version 1.1
The camera still is not aware of the aperture set on the lens. That's what is missing from the *ist series. Set an A lens off "A" use a small aperture i.e. F16 or F22 (I did this with one of my lenses this morning after upgrading to test it) Set Mode dial to Manual look in viewfinder and press green button. the aperture won't show up (it NEVER will with a lens off the "A" position) but the shutter speed will change and the viewfinder will get dark for a fraction of a second. You've just used "stop-down" metering. take a picture. it should be exposed properly Christian - Original Message - From: "Tom Lesser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:59 PM Subject: Re: version 1.1 > >Now, with the lens off "A", putting the camera into manual and pressing the > >green button will give the "correct" shutter speed. > > I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in "off A" > apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is > a flashing "Av--" in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing > "Av--" whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out > there? > > Yes, the upgrade installation appears to have been successful ... > when I hold down the Menu button and switch the camera ON, its says > Version 1.1. > > Thanks. > > Tom Lesser >
RE: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip?
m42 and pk J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Christian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 4:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: What would you do with a 24x36 digital chip? - Original Message - > Imagine a 24x36mm digital chip with whatever resolution needed to consider > it a "high end" chip. > > Now, what kind of camera would you have put it into, if you were deciding > for Pentax? > > 35mm K-bayonet? > 645 bayonet? > Something else? 35mm K-bayonet why would you put it in anything else? Christian
RE: Unusual subjects to photograph.
mike wilson wrote: > About 15years ago I found two whole Triumph Bonnevilles in a > skip. As far as I know, they are still running. That is both amazing and very sad. Who on earth would throw away a Triumph Bonneville, let alone two of them? > New next door neighbour has just completely gutted the house that > the previous owner renovated from top to bottom, in order to > sell it.. Not an isolated occurrence sadly. > A very sad indictment of modern society and an extremely > wothwhile project. Despite the UK having an acknowledged > problem with lack of waste disposal space, we can still get > goons willing to appear on national TV, saying things like > "If the local authority can't get rid of my waste, that's its > problem, not mine" I totally agree. The sad thing is unless my acquaintance has told someone about his collection, they will probably end up on a skip too. Talk about irony. I have recorded the changes in my local area for the better part of three decades now, and the number of beautiful buildings and Victorian and Edwardian houses that have met the demolition ball over the years is a scandal. The hideous monstrosities that have replaced them is making the area featureless and anonymous. Is anyone else recording anything that we can show to our grandchildren and say 'our generation ruined or destroyed (choose appropriate word) this for you'. Malcolm
RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
> Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog > and preferably the older, all manual cameras? > > Thanks. > > Rob Hey Rob, don't I know you from some place? ;) Amita
Re: version 1.1
I assume the update is only for MSMC-M and SMC lenses, not for A If you want to use the lens off the A position, you need to set that in the menu. AT least in V1.00, I assume that didn't change. On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 22:59, Tom Lesser wrote: > >Now, with the lens off "A", putting the camera into manual and pressing the > >green button will give the "correct" shutter speed. > > I've just installed v1.1 and have tried several A lenses in "off A" > apertures and when I press the green button in Manual, all I get is > a flashing "Av--" in the LCD panel. In fact, I get the flashing > "Av--" whether the mode is set to P, Tv, Av, M or B. Any help out > there? > > Yes, the upgrade installation appears to have been successful ... > when I hold down the Menu button and switch the camera ON, its says > Version 1.1. > > Thanks. > > Tom Lesser -- Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Used *istD prices (was: RE: firmware update)
This would be really good for many folks on the list. While the *istD may not fall in
the "toughest {Pentax" category, a 2-3 year old one will still be a perfectly good
camera in many cases. In addition, 6 MP is "good enough" for many folks. And a used
*ist D may be better than a new Baby D, except possibly for absolute resolution.
Rough average 'going rate' on eBay for used Pentax *ist D(original), body
only, in exc++ or mint- in January 2006:
UK: £550
US: $600
Book em, Danno.
Re: firmware update
Why does it matter to you, Christian? ;-) keith whaley Christian wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > It will be a very interesting time in the next 2 years, perhaps even more > > interesting than the last 2. The flight has left the ground and is still > > climbing. We want to know where it's going to level out and when the > > drinks are served. LOL. > > > > Why does everything lead to alcohol with you, Cotty? ;-) > > Christian
Re: firmware update
Cotty wrote: > > On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: > > >Hey Cotts, > > > >Come back and join the gang. > > > > > >Ziggy > > My dear Ziggo, > > I never left. I still have a pair of MXs and a 3 Pentax lenses, one of > which I use often ;-) > > If you mean that I could sell up the Canon stuff and get an *ist D, I > can't. The financial loss would be too great to stomach - as purchasers > of the *ist D will find out. Besides, it was a very considered decision > and I have no regrets. Envy, but no regrets. I'm happy where I'm at. > > I'll pick up a used *ist D in 2 years for a song ;-) "Name that tune!" keith whaley > Cheers, > Cotty
Re: Question or better yet, idea
And hacks are fine. Kludges are usually a mess. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: "Christian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Question or better yet, idea Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:43:57 -0500 I'd call it a hack rather than a klu(d)ge. http://www.eps.mcgill.ca/jargon/jargon.html#hack vs. http://www.eps.mcgill.ca/jargon/jargon.html#kluge Christian - Original Message - From: "Bob W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:36 PM Subject: Re: Question or better yet, idea > Hi, > > > The new firmware fix gives you better than stop down metering. It > > is a nice solution. > > I don't generally follow ist-d threads, so forgive me if I'm repeating > something, or if I've missed something about the ist-d. > > It sounds to me like a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist anyway. > In other words, a kludge. > > -- > Cheers, > Bob > _ Worried about inbox overload? Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
RE: firmware update
Does this mean that future Pentax DSLRs may fully support K/M lenses for a while? Rhetorical. J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com
RE: Is there an analog only Pentax list?
No. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: Pentax <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Is there an analog only Pentax list? Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:37:32 -0500 Just joined the list, so I apologize if this has been asked a million times. Is there some kind of Pentax discussion list that is just for analog and preferably the older, all manual cameras? Thanks. Rob _ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize
RE: Question or better yet, idea
I should have said it another way, I guess. The mount has not changed, only the firmware has changed. I don't see any reason for anyone to claim it's a crippled mount, either before or after the firmware update. The firmware update just automates what I used to do myself. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 From: alex wetmore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question or better yet, idea Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 10:04:29 -0800 (PST) On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Leonard Paris wrote: > That's really strange, the "crippled mount" idea. I was using my Zenitar > fisheye in aperture priority with version 1.0 of the firmware and had no > problems. Probably in stop down metering? That works great with screwmount lenses on a screwmount adapter. There is no way to do stop down metering with K/M lenses though unless you remove the aperture lever from the lens, or hold the lens rotated 15 degrees on the mount. Neither solution is ideal. The new firmware fix gives you better than stop down metering. It is a nice solution. alex _ Have fun customizing MSN Messenger learn how here! http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/reach_customize
Used *istD prices (was: RE: firmware update)
On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> I'll pick up a used *ist D in 2 years for a song ;-) > >You really think so? My *ist D is destined to be my "second" body. Okay, here's the prediction. Someone copy and paste this. Rough average 'going rate' on eBay for used Pentax *ist D(original), body only, in exc++ or mint- in January 2006: UK: £550 US: $600 Book em, Danno. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: Unusual subjects to photograph.
Bob W wrote: > back in the good old days Steptoe & Son would do the rounds > every week and take the stuff away for recycling. I can still > remember rag & bone men in Leeds and Bradford from the 60s and 70s. I can remember a few in the early 70s, but the horse had been replaced by a flat bed mark 1 Ford Transit. > It's interesting to see the opening sequence of old Steptoe > shows. It was based in Hammersmith and filmed round there. > When I see the state of the streets and property there in the > 60s I'm amazed at their decrepitude. These are places that > are worth millions now. Back then they were poor, working > class tenements. Steptoe & Son had a run of 12 years from 1962 to cancellation in 1974. I can just remember being allowed to stay up late to see the last series. Heck, that's made me feel old, that's 30 years ago! > (For the benefit of our US readers, Steptoe & Son is the > original of Sanford & Son). Was that somewhat later or 70s as well? Malcolm
Re: firmware update
- Original Message - From: "Cotty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > It will be a very interesting time in the next 2 years, perhaps even more > interesting than the last 2. The flight has left the ground and is still > climbing. We want to know where it's going to level out and when the > drinks are served. LOL. > Why does everything lead to alcohol with you, Cotty? ;-) Christian
Re: version 1.1
On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >> unlike the >> rather unfortunate "Jessops Code" for the camera: >> http://www.jessops.com/search/viewproduct.cfm?PRODUCT=PENISTD ROTFL!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: firmware update
On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >"I'll pick up a used *ist D in 2 years for a song ;-)" > >The real competition at the low end for new impecunious digital users? Steve, I think any current 6MP camera will be less than half it's original purchase price after 24 months. Maybe even less. I suppose it depends on where they're going with sensor resolution. If the place to be is 10MP in 18 months, then 6MPs (DSLRs) will fall fast. If on the other hand it's all happening at 8MP, then 6 doesn't seem so bad and that will help keep used prices up. I think the vast majority of buyers look at the MP number. I did - I knew 6 was my lower limit, not 3. It is quite possible that things will hold at 6 MP for some time, with other advances coming along, like better processing and larger buffers. Who wants a 6MP camera that kaks after 4 shots (300D)? Entry level, sure, but that sucks! It will be a very interesting time in the next 2 years, perhaps even more interesting than the last 2. The flight has left the ground and is still climbing. We want to know where it's going to level out and when the drinks are served. LOL. Ramblings, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
RE: digital imaging question
I do that too, but I am talking about when you capture/scan the original. Not what you do to it afterward. J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Dag T [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: digital imaging question I always try to stretch the scale so that the image contains both areas being close to the lightest and darkest values. Anything else will often seem grey. It´s the same thing I do in the darkroom, it is done by controlling both contrast and the overall exposure. In Photoshop I use the curve tool. DagT På 9. jan. 2004 kl. 18.13 skrev J. C. O'Connell: > I have a question concerning digital capture (scanning or digital > photography) > that need answering. If I have a scene or negative that has a contrast > range > that it less than the sensor/scanner ( i.e. the histogram width is > narrower > that the histogram width range), is it better to: > > 1. center the recorded histogram > 2. bias the histogram towards the lighter tones taking care not >no clip any highlights > 3. bias the histogram towards the darker tones taking care not >to clip any of the darker/black tones > > I have a feeling the correct way is #2 or possibly #1 but I am not > sure. > Anyone know? > > --- > - >J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com > --- > - >
RE: firmware update
On 9/1/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: >I know that you never left. Just a wind up. I'm glad that you still have the >MXs, great camera. I nearly went your way but now same as you, digital, will >never go back. Left with an LX, MZ£ and MZS. And so do you plan on keeping those cameras? BTW - which one is the middle one above - the typo? If i were you I'd keep the LX and bin the rest ;- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
Re: FAT
Pentax say they support FAT32 and >2GB memory cards. They even support "Write Acceleration" technology. Christian - Original Message - From: "Frits Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Pentax-Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 1:41 PM Subject: FAT > After upgrading to firmware v1.10, I let my *ist D format my 512MB CF > card. I checked the CF card on my WinXP machine, and it was reported as > FAT. So that is FAT16. > I then did a format of the CF card with my CF, and changed it to FAT32. > Then I put it back in the *ist D. The camera could read it without any > problem, and write a PEF file to it. > > Earlier it was stated operating systems don't support FAT16 over 2GB > size due to too big cluster sizes. So I would conclude from this, that > the *ist D can use >2GB cards if you format them first on a PC using > FAT32. > > Is this correct? > -- > Frits Wüthrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > legend: > v = version > MB = mega byte > CF = compact flash > WIN = Windows > FAT = file allocation table > PEF = PEntax Format? > GB = Giga Byte > >
