Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread ann sanfedele
I was prepared to be offended :)

lovely shot Walt
ann

Walter Hamler wrote:

This years crop of new ones. These two were looking at mom who had food!

Walt

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/_IGP8155web.jpg

  




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DPR K20D Preview

2008-06-20 Thread Cotty
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PentaxK20D/

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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Cotty
On 19/6/08, Fernando, discombobulated, unleashed:

I found this video (for the street photographers a la in your face)
of Bruce Gilden working:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM

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RE: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Bob W
That's an interesting video. I like seeing how photographers go about
their work. It's interesting to compare Gilden's approach with HCB's,
and his different attitude to flash (which he describes as 'like
firing a gun during a concert'). You also get to see some of his
contact sheets in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqsOYsZlPX4amp;feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjjGiBUaf4sfeature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnunLXYTzyQ

HCB was an elegant, cosmopolitan flaneur or boulevardier. Watching
some of this footage on TV once my mother appears to have fallen in
love with HCB, whom she considers very handsome.

And Martin Parr, who comes across as a harmless nutter:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFNae2xpctg

Bob 

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 I found this video (for the street photographers a la in your
face)
 of Bruce Gilden working:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM
 
 
 
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RE: WTF: Zoo license agreement?

2008-06-20 Thread Bob W
 
  William Robb wrote:
  
  [...] with the consequence being that an image 
  could be defined as an image created by the visitor.
  
  You'd make a good security analyst. ;-)
 
 Almost 30 years of living with a paralegal and hanging out 
 with lawyers...
 
 William Robb

as I read it it says that by walking past the sign, even without
reading it, you waive all rights to a fair trail in all jurisdictions,
and confer upon the zoo all your land, property and demesne in
perpetuity, and yield to the board of directors, their heirs and
successors, droit de seigneur over your wife, mother, mother-in-law,
and all female descendants over the age of 12 years, yea even unto the
7th generation.

Bob


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RE: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread Bob W
Lovely shot. 

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 Subject: PESO: Whe!
 
 Cardboarding on the hill at the park today. K20D, DA*50-135 
 at 135mm,  
 f3.2 @1/4000, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7429683size=lg
 
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Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread AlunFoto
A few image archiving packages included, plus updated info on
K20D/K200D and K100Dsuper.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKPaNaarWcEZBg

Some info is unconfirmed. I'll do my best to double-check.

Best,
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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread pnstenquist
No Aperture or iPhoto?
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From: AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 A few image archiving packages included, plus updated info on
 K20D/K200D and K100Dsuper.
 
 http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKPaNaarWcEZBg
 
 Some info is unconfirmed. I'll do my best to double-check.
 
 Best,
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RE: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Bob. We had a nice day. 
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 Lovely shot. 
 
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  Sent: 20 June 2008 03:33
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  Subject: PESO: Whe!
  
  Cardboarding on the hill at the park today. K20D, DA*50-135 
  at 135mm,  
  f3.2 @1/4000, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7429683size=lg
  
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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Jostein

On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:23 +0200, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 A few image archiving packages included, plus updated info on
 K20D/K200D and K100Dsuper.
 
 http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKPaNaarWcEZBg
 
 Some info is unconfirmed. I'll do my best to double-check.
 



Another one you might throw into the mix is Studioline Photo Classic. 
It's mainly an archiving program but has a reasonable range of photo
editing tools.  I've been using it for several years to manage my
digital files.  It lists support for most Pentax RAW files except the
K100D Super and K20D although the web site says that the supported list
may not be complete.  So support for those models may already be
included but, if not, I expect these would be added in the near future.
The program also supports DNG.

http://www.studioline.net/EN/products/sl-photo-classic/function-tour/default.htm


Cheers

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Re: OT: What's so good about Flickr?

2008-06-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: OT:  What's so good about Flickr?
 
 I don't get what's so good about flickr.  The pages I've seen are kinda 
 ugly.  Everybody seems to use it though...  why?

It's free (or cheap) and easy.  Your photos are uploaded en masse, resized and 
thumbnailed for you and you only need to be capable of dragging stuff around in 
Explorer.  It's the eejit's entrance to internet fame.


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Re: OT: What's so good about Flickr?

2008-06-20 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: OT: What's so good about Flickr?
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: David J Brooks 
 Subject: Re: OT: What's so good about Flickr?
 
 
 
  So Cotty... they have sheep?
 
 
  No, but (wait for it...)
 
  ...the pictures (patient!...)
 
  take up (it's coming...)
 
  ...an awful lot of ram!
 
  Ba-da-boom!
 
  Ewe think that was funny?
  
  Time to go on the lamb Cotty
 
 He ain't seen mutton yet.

If he did it, would only give him the h... no, I can't go on.


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Re: PESO 2008 - 91 - GDG

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
I like the mirror effect the chair backs seem to have.

DOF is good here.

Dave

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Another in this series:

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/91-chairs.jpg
   Chairs And Table - This Cafe Life 2008
   Olympus E-1 + Summilux-D 25mm f/1.4 ASPH + EC14
   ISO 400 @ f/2 @ 1/200 sec, fl=35mm

 Comments and critique always appreciated.

 enjoy
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Re: OT: What's so good about Flickr?

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey Dave, there's a cartoon about you in the New Yorker:

 http://www.cartoonbank.com/product_details.asp?mscssid=EPFKD9RC5PW78JQ
 UNDRMTTA6EPBJFFMEsitetype=1did=4sid=125292pid=advanced=1keyword=
 undefinedartist=section=printscaption=artID=topic=pubDateFrom=06
 /09/2008pubDateTo=06/09/2008pubDateMon=pubDateDay=pubNY=2color=0
 title=undefinedwhichpage=15sortBy=popular

 http://tinyurl.com/6lgce7

 ...which I don't understand.

Nor I .

Dave

 Bob

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 Subject: Re: OT: What's so good about Flickr?

 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:44 PM, P. J. Alling
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I've visited both, I won't contribute to either, with the
 Pentax Photo
  Gallery I don't need the rejection, on PhotoSig, I don;'t
 need the pain.

 I live for both

 Dave
 
  John Francis wrote:
  Most of the criticisms of PhotoSig expressed there are
  eerily similar to the complaints about the Pentax Gallery
  that have been voiced here.
 
 
  On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 04:54:37PM -0400, Fernando wrote:
 
  I think this link was the first time I heard about flickr:
 
 http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/Pontification/ab_Why_Flickr_Is
 _Better/_Why_Flickr_Is_Better.html
 
  On 6/19/08, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  The communities in the form of groups with individual
 photo topics,
  which includes forums and, if the group is about a
 location (e.g. the
  Toronto group) actual social gatherings, is what generates
 the
  customer base loyalty. And it has a somewhat limited free
 account
  option.
 
  On 6/19/08, Cory Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't get what's so good about flickr.  The pages
 I've seen are kinda
  ugly.  Everybody seems to use it though...  why?
 
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Re: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
Good example of Pentax and motion/action shooting, Paul

Dave

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Re: PESO 2008 - 90 - GDG

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
 http://homepage.mac.com/godders/90-kitsch.jpg
 Window Kitsch - Mountain View 2008

 You know, Window Kitsch would be a great name for a band...

 Come to think of it, that photo would be a great album cover!

Yes it would.

Dave

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Re: New York [mostly] in Black and White

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
Nice to browse through.

I like the Hearlld Sq one

Dave

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 8:56 PM, Bruce Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Covers architecture  street scenes from 1885 to 2001.

 Bandwidth alert: there are about two gazillion pix on this one long
 page, but it's fascinating ...

 http://wirednewyork.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5010

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Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
Good shot.

My favorite bird



Dave

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This years crop of new ones. These two were looking at mom who had food!

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Firs photo from space

2008-06-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/16045732.html

And there's people that still thinks that the K20D has a rugged body...



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Enviado desde Correo Yahoo! La bandeja de entrada más inteligente.

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Re: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Dave. Didn't hit on all of the shots with CAF, but I got a good 
proportion.
Paul
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 Good example of Pentax and motion/action shooting, Paul
 
 Dave
 
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FS: Pentax DA 18-55

2008-06-20 Thread Carlos Royo
Up for sale is a SMC Pentax-DA 18-55 mm. 3.5-5.6, like new in box, with 
both caps and lens hood. I have two of those lenses and I only need one. 
Price: 50 euros, plus shipping expenses.

If someone is interested, please send a message to my e-mail box, not
the list. Thank you for your attention.

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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread AlunFoto
2008/6/20  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 No Aperture or iPhoto?

My apologies.
Anyone from the Mac crowd who could take a quick look?

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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread AlunFoto
Thanks Brian!
If it doesn't support the 20D, I assume it doesn't support the 200D either?

Jostein

2008/6/20 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Jostein

 On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:23 +0200, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 A few image archiving packages included, plus updated info on
 K20D/K200D and K100Dsuper.

 http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKPaNaarWcEZBg

 Some info is unconfirmed. I'll do my best to double-check.




 Another one you might throw into the mix is Studioline Photo Classic.
 It's mainly an archiving program but has a reasonable range of photo
 editing tools.  I've been using it for several years to manage my
 digital files.  It lists support for most Pentax RAW files except the
 K100D Super and K20D although the web site says that the supported list
 may not be complete.  So support for those models may already be
 included but, if not, I expect these would be added in the near future.
 The program also supports DNG.

 http://www.studioline.net/EN/products/sl-photo-classic/function-tour/default.htm


 Cheers

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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
All of the Apple applications support all Pentax cameras up to and  
including the K20D. That would be Aperture, Preview, and iPhoto. I  
was surprised to find that iPhoto has a rather nice interface and is  
quite capable of good conversions. It's also very handy for mini  
albums or when ordering snapshot prints for friends and family. I've  
never tried Aperture, but I know it's a full featured program in the  
manner of Lightroom. I'm not sure, but I think there's a PC version  
as well. Preview is just the free photo viewer that comes on Macs. I  
think the newest version will open RAW files, but it's mainly a  
viewing tool. Godders knows a lot more about this. Perhaps he'll  
respond.
Paul
On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:15 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 2008/6/20  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 No Aperture or iPhoto?

 My apologies.
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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread AlunFoto
okay, found the compatibility list. No K200D yet. And no K100Dsuper.

Document updated. Thanks again.

Jostein

2008/6/20 AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Thanks Brian!
 If it doesn't support the 20D, I assume it doesn't support the 200D either?

 Jostein

 2008/6/20 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi Jostein

 On Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:04:23 +0200, AlunFoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 said:
 A few image archiving packages included, plus updated info on
 K20D/K200D and K100Dsuper.

 http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pecuhsM9jAKPaNaarWcEZBg

 Some info is unconfirmed. I'll do my best to double-check.




 Another one you might throw into the mix is Studioline Photo Classic.
 It's mainly an archiving program but has a reasonable range of photo
 editing tools.  I've been using it for several years to manage my
 digital files.  It lists support for most Pentax RAW files except the
 K100D Super and K20D although the web site says that the supported list
 may not be complete.  So support for those models may already be
 included but, if not, I expect these would be added in the near future.
 The program also supports DNG.

 http://www.studioline.net/EN/products/sl-photo-classic/function-tour/default.htm


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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Roberts
AlunFoto wrote:
 okay, found the compatibility list. No K200D yet. And no K100Dsuper.
 
 Document updated. Thanks again.

Better update it again:
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/application_updates/digitalcamerarawcompatibilityupdate21.html



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Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread Walter Hamler
Thanks Ann and all who responded.
I feel very lucky to have these beautiful animals around so often. I
actually will slowly walk up toward them and talk softly. They are
very attentive and watch my every move. After a while they realize I
am neither food nor a threat so they go looking at the world around
them.

Walt

On 6/20/08, ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was prepared to be offended :)

 lovely shot Walt
 ann

 Walter Hamler wrote:

 This years crop of new ones. These two were looking at mom who had food!
 
 Walt
 
 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/_IGP8155web.jpg
 
 
 



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PESO - In Her Own World

2008-06-20 Thread frank theriault
http://tinyurl.com/5sojwx

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFugCujZs6I/CVI/ux36-WfOVYc/s1600-h/jun_19_08+005.jpg

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Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This years crop of new ones. These two were looking at mom who had food!

 Walt

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/_IGP8155web.jpg


Lovely shot!

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Re: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Paul Stenquist
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 Cardboarding on the hill at the park today. K20D, DA*50-135 at 135mm,
 f3.2 @1/4000, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7429683size=lg


Perfect!

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FS Friday - DA 50~200

2008-06-20 Thread Walter Hamler
I posted this a week or so ago but it wasn't on a friday, so I suspect
no one paid attention. Or, nobody wants it
I no longer need as I have the 70~300 that is only slightly bigger.
I will make a good price to anyone interested. If you are out of the
US, talk to me. I don't know all the intricies of overseas shipping.
whamler  AT  cfl.rr.com

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Re: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread Jack Davis
Astroturf hill? 
Very aptly (and cutely) caught! ;)

Jack


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 Cardboarding on the hill at the park today. K20D, DA*50-135
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Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread Jack Davis
I was afraid they might actually be your Hooters. WHEW

Jack


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 Why Jack, what did you expect to see
 VBG :-)
 
 Walt
 
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Re: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Jack. Yes, it's an astroturf hill. The kids slide down on  
cardboard. The older kids do it standing up, much like snowboarding.  
It's quite slick and fast.
Paul
On Jun 20, 2008, at 9:01 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

 Astroturf hill?
 Very aptly (and cutely) caught! ;)

 Jack


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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not having access to a 1D, my method of shooting Agility is to pick one 
 obstacle and focus on
 it. When the dog gets to it, I take a picture. Usually, either too early or 
 too late.

That's what I do with my K10D, but I don't find the timing to be too
hard.  Keeping my left eye open helps.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2441122563/

I previously shot my wife's dogs with manual-focus Canon FD gear, so I
guess I got used to working that way.  AF.S speeds up prefocusing on
the jump, at least.

Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.  I had a
1-in-108 success ratio my first time out.  At least it makes the dogs
seem easy.

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Re: DPR K20D Preview

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Cotty, you're taking lessons from Romanbot?

Cotty wrote:
 http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PentaxK20D/

   


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Re: DPR K20D Preview

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Sorry I take that back, DP review is taking reverse lessons from Kennyboy.

Cotty wrote:
 http://www.dpreview.com/previews/PentaxK20D/

   


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Re: DPR K20D Preview

2008-06-20 Thread David Savage
2008/6/20 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cotty, you're taking lessons from Romanbot?

Mark!

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Re: WTF: Zoo license agreement?

2008-06-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Bob W 
Subject: RE: WTF: Zoo license agreement?



 
 as I read it it says that by walking past the sign, even without
 reading it, you waive all rights to a fair trail in all jurisdictions,
 and confer upon the zoo all your land, property and demesne in
 perpetuity, and yield to the board of directors, their heirs and
 successors, droit de seigneur over your wife, mother, mother-in-law,
 and all female descendants over the age of 12 years, yea even unto the
 7th generation.

And I thought I was paranoid.

William Robb

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Re: FS: Pentax DA 18-55

2008-06-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
2 kit lenses?

Mmmm...do you 'succumbed' to the K10D/20D temptation finally?

;-)

- Mensaje original 
De: Carlos Royo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Enviado: viernes, 20 de junio, 2008 13:34:33
Asunto: FS: Pentax DA 18-55 

Up for sale is a SMC Pentax-DA 18-55 mm. 3.5-5.6, like new in box, with 
both caps and lens hood. I have two of those lenses and I only need one. 
Price: 50 euros, plus shipping expenses.

If someone is interested, please send a message to my e-mail box, not
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Agility photos. was Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread William Robb

- Original Message - 
From: Matthew Hunt
Subject: Re: PUG reminder


 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not having access to a 1D, my method of shooting Agility is to pick one 
 obstacle and focus on
 it. When the dog gets to it, I take a picture. Usually, either too early or 
 too late.

 That's what I do with my K10D, but I don't find the timing to be too
 hard.  Keeping my left eye open helps.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2441122563/

 I previously shot my wife's dogs with manual-focus Canon FD gear, so I
 guess I got used to working that way.  AF.S speeds up prefocusing on
 the jump, at least.

 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.  I had a
 1-in-108 success ratio my first time out.  At least it makes the dogs
 seem easy.

Excellent shot!! I never seem to get it quite right. I don't look through the 
viewfinder at all 
when shooting Agility, I set up on the obstacle and watch the dog. I just don't 
quite have the 
timing down yet. We don't have many events here, so  don't get much practice. I 
tried shooting 
barn swallows at my inlaws acreage years ago with one of my Nikons (probably 
the FE). The best I 
managed over a 36 exposure roll was a black streak near the edge of the frame 
that could have 
been anything. Those little suckers are fast.

William Robb 


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Re: WTF: Zoo license agreement?

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Bob W wrote:
 William Robb wrote:

   
 [...] with the consequence being that an image 
 could be defined as an image created by the visitor.
 
 You'd make a good security analyst. ;-)
   
 Almost 30 years of living with a paralegal and hanging out 
 with lawyers...

 William Robb
 

 as I read it it says that by walking past the sign, even without
 reading it, you waive all rights to a fair trail in all jurisdictions,
 and confer upon the zoo all your land, property and demesne in
 perpetuity, and yield to the board of directors, their heirs and
 successors, droit de seigneur over your wife, mother, mother-in-law,
 and all female descendants over the age of 12 years, yea even unto the
 7th generation.

 Bob
   
You know, if they can get away with what it actually says, that you give 
consent to use of your image for any purpose just by visiting, I expect 
to see Bob's terms sometime in the future...

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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Doug Brewer


Matthew Hunt wrote:
 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.  

African or European?

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Re: Firs photo from space

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
The camera itself wasn't particularly rugged, the film cassette was.

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
 http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/16045732.html

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Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought he'd actually taken his camera to Hooters...

Jack Davis wrote:
 I was afraid they might actually be your Hooters. WHEW

 Jack


 --- On Thu, 6/19/08, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
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 Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 6:49 PM
 Why Jack, what did you expect to see
 VBG :-)

 Walt

 On 6/19/08, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 For some reason I decided to click on this post. Glad
   
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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matthew Hunt wrote:
 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.

 African or European?

That gives me an idea... if I put out coconuts for them to carry, it
would probably slow them down...

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Re: PESO - In Her Own World

2008-06-20 Thread Fernando
It reminds me of a shot in the subway by Walker Evans, Lost in
Thought (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4156233
 click view gallery, second shot).


On 6/20/08, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/5sojwx

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFugCujZs6I/CVI/ux36-WfOVYc/s1600-h/jun_19_08+005.jpg

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Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread Jack Davis
Actually, my greatest fear was that the estrogen treatments were working. 8-()

Jack


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 Subject: Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back
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 Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 7:08 AM
 I thought he'd actually taken his camera to Hooters...
 
 Jack Davis wrote:
  I was afraid they might actually be your Hooters.
 WHEW
 
  Jack
 
 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back
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  Date: Thursday, June 19, 2008, 6:49 PM
  Why Jack, what did you expect to see
  VBG :-)
 
  Walt
 
  On 6/19/08, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  For some reason I decided to click on this
 post. Glad

  I did. LOL
  
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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:15 AM, Matthew Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matthew Hunt wrote:
 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.

 African or European?

 That gives me an idea... if I put out coconuts for them to carry, it
 would probably slow them down...


So, your telling me, coconuts migrate

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Re: Firs photo from space

2008-06-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
Really? the camera crashed at the end, but I am not sure if my Ds would be able 
to take pictures after being inside a 1946 missile during its 
launching...sounds like a lot of hot and vibrations to me...


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Asunto: Re: Firs photo from space

The camera itself wasn't particularly rugged, the film cassette was.

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Re: Firs photo from space

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Probably not a lot rougher than a lot of other environments.  The *ist-D 
can probably survive anything you could.  I think you'd probably survive 
being in the equivalent of a V-2 take off, that is assuming it didn't 
blow up just after liftoff, (they did that quite often), the landing 
however...

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
 Really? the camera crashed at the end, but I am not sure if my Ds would be 
 able to take pictures after being inside a 1946 missile during its 
 launching...sounds like a lot of hot and vibrations to me...


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 The camera itself wasn't particularly rugged, the film cassette was.

 Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
   
 http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/16045732.html

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Re: Firs photo from space

2008-06-20 Thread Jaume Lahuerta
OK, OK, my initial comment just tried to put an humorous end to an (to me) 
interesting article. It wasn't too accurate and trying to defend it has only 
led to show my ignorance of the aeronautic/military industry...

;-)

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Probably not a lot rougher than a lot of other environments.  The *ist-D 
can probably survive anything you could.  I think you'd probably survive 
being in the equivalent of a V-2 take off, that is assuming it didn't 
blow up just after liftoff, (they did that quite often), the landing 
however...

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:
 Really? the camera crashed at the end, but I am not sure if my Ds would be 
 able to take pictures after being inside a 1946 missile during its 
 launching...sounds like a lot of hot and vibrations to me...


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 The camera itself wasn't particularly rugged, the film cassette was.

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 http://www.airspacemag.com/space-exploration/16045732.html

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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Fernando
On 6/20/08, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That's an interesting video. I like seeing how photographers go about
 their work.
Me too, I find them entertaining (and in some cases a nice learning tool)

 It's interesting to compare Gilden's approach with HCB's,
 and his different attitude to flash (which he describes as 'like
 firing a gun during a concert').

I used to put HCB on one end and Winogrand on the other (after this
video, Winogrand should be replaced by Gilden...); One is like a
fisherman, finds a spot with the right geometry to be a potential
photograph and waits for the rest of the pieces to fall in place (I
read that a similar approach is used by Trent Parke, he goes to the
same spot, every day, at the same time of the day, and burns some
rolls) and the other one is more like a hunter, moving constantly and
expecting random chaos to hit him in the face; I personally enjoy the
result they get from both these two approaches (in a different way,
though).

His confrontational attitude in this video is hilarious, his
what-ya-looking-at style in action is so fun to watch, right? (NO,
DON'T SMILE that made my laugh)

 You also get to see some of his
 contact sheets in this video:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqsOYsZlPX4amp;feature=related

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjjGiBUaf4sfeature=related

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnunLXYTzyQ

 HCB was an elegant, cosmopolitan flaneur or boulevardier. Watching
 some of this footage on TV once my mother appears to have fallen in
 love with HCB, whom she considers very handsome.

 And Martin Parr, who comes across as a harmless nutter:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFNae2xpctg


I'll check them out at home (I'm at work now); I'm curious to see how
Parr works, without having watched the video, harmless nutter sounds
like a good description ;-)


This reminds me of some discussion that I read in a forum not long
time ago, where some photographers were complaining about the
inclusion of Parr and Sanguineti in Magnum, as they were seeing a
detour from the traditional photojournalism style of the agency to a
more artsy thing; I like Parr's work, the easy-to-read jokes with a
underlying critic to society (as I also like South Park...)


 Bob

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  I found this video (for the street photographers a la in your
 face)
  of Bruce Gilden working:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM
 
 
 
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Re: Software PEF support update

2008-06-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Not much to add.

- All three applications use the same RAW conversion engine that  
Apple supplies as a system framework.
- Aperture is only available on Mac OS X.

The editing UI in Preview is limited but facile enough for a quick  
correction of a RAW file and can output TIFF, JPEG, PNG and other RGB  
file formats.

Godfrey

On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:33 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 All of the Apple applications support all Pentax cameras up to and
 including the K20D. That would be Aperture, Preview, and iPhoto. I
 was surprised to find that iPhoto has a rather nice interface and is
 quite capable of good conversions. It's also very handy for mini
 albums or when ordering snapshot prints for friends and family. I've
 never tried Aperture, but I know it's a full featured program in the
 manner of Lightroom. I'm not sure, but I think there's a PC version
 as well. Preview is just the free photo viewer that comes on Macs. I
 think the newest version will open RAW files, but it's mainly a
 viewing tool. Godders knows a lot more about this. Perhaps he'll
 respond.
 Paul
 On Jun 20, 2008, at 8:15 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

 2008/6/20  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 No Aperture or iPhoto?

 My apologies.
 Anyone from the Mac crowd who could take a quick look?

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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Fernando
Glad you like it;

getting some ideas for the next trip to NY? ;-)

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 On 19/6/08, Fernando, discombobulated, unleashed:

 I found this video (for the street photographers a la in your face)
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM

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Re: PESO - In Her Own World

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Once again you've captured a little slice isolation, you can almost feel 
she's going home to a bleak apartment and a couple of cats... 
(or maybe I'm reading too much into this).  . 

frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/5sojwx

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFugCujZs6I/CVI/ux36-WfOVYc/s1600-h/jun_19_08+005.jpg

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Re: OT: What's so good about Flickr?

2008-06-20 Thread Bruce Walker
Cory Waters wrote:
 I don't get what's so good about flickr.
   

A short piece that appeared last October in TOP, called How to use 
Flickr by Howard W. French, is germane to this thread ...

Each time I've seen a sneering or dismissive comment by a photographer 
about Flickr and its faults, I've wanted to say, hang on a moment, 
Flickr is exactly what you make of it. Nothing more, nothing less.  [...]

The secret to Flickr is increasing the viewing ratio in favor of 
beauty, in favor of originality, in favor of strong composition, great 
eyes or flashes of exciting innovation, and I am here to tell you that 
the trick is as easy as it rewarding.

http://snipurl.com/2lrd8


I use Flickr myself because it presently meets my modest needs. But when 
it comes time to actually spend money, I'll likely purchase an account 
on photo.net.

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Re: PESO - In Her Own World

2008-06-20 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

On Jun 20, 2008, at 5:43 AM, frank theriault wrote:

 http://tinyurl.com/5sojwx

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFugCujZs6I/CVI/ux36- 
 WfOVYc/s1600-h/jun_19_08+005.jpg


Very nice ... a quiet moment. If you want to try something, a little  
tighter crop might strengthen it.

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Re: FS: Pentax DA 18-55

2008-06-20 Thread Carlos Royo


Jaume Lahuerta escribió:
 2 kit lenses?
 
 Mmmm...do you 'succumbed' to the K10D/20D temptation finally?
 
 ;-)
 

You are right, Jaume. I bought a lightly used K10D Grand Prix three 
months ago. It came with a kit lens, and I already had a 18-55 which I 
had bought for the *ist DS.


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GESO: Cadiz

2008-06-20 Thread Juan Buhler
Hello all,

This is my typical post that happens every one or two months.
Apologies for the on/off lurking.

I'm just finished with a workshop with Alex Webb and Rebecca Norris
Webb in Cadiz, Spain. We shot for four days, and these are my pictures
for that time:

http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz

I'm shooting a lot with the M8, although the K10D with 12-24 comes
with me always, just for when I need a wider perspective. The first
picture of the set is with the K10D.

Comments welcome,

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Re: PESO: My Hooters are Back

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Wow! Very nice pair of owls, uhm, I mean hooters. =)

Pat

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This years crop of new ones. These two were looking at mom who had food!

 Walt

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/_IGP8155web.jpg

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Re: PESO: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Another sweet moment in the Life of Grace. Thanks for sharing.
Pat

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 7:33 PM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Cardboarding on the hill at the park today. K20D, DA*50-135 at 135mm,
 f3.2 @1/4000, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7429683size=lg

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Re: PESO - A Dog and his Boy Eating Supper

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Awww, gee.  This photo makes me remember the times I was bad  sent to
the corner.  Except I never had a small friend to share the isolation.

Good work.
Pat

On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I dunno, he was just there eating, and the dog was there with him:

 http://tinyurl.com/4tb8yn

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFgzn9jJ9qI/CUA/lALC8l2kD6A/s1600-h/jun_16_08+002.jpg

 Comments?  Bouquets?  Brickbats?

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Re: Lightsphere vs Lumiquest

2008-06-20 Thread Walter Hamler
I found another camera store here that carries the Lightsphere line.
They had a Whale Tail but I wasn't impressed.
I did but another LS, the clear one. When I got home I put a piece of
aluminum foil on the back half to reflect the light forward. It makes
a tremendous difference in the amount of light output. I can shoot
across a big room at f/8 at iso 200 and get good exposures. I also
noted that even with a vertical composition and the flash off to the
side the light is still nice and no obvious shadow coming from the
background.

Walt

On 6/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Yes, the Whale Tail is newer, and it's similar in concept to the lightsphere. 
 I haven't met anyone who is using one yet. It seems to offer even more 
 options than the lightsphere, but it may suck up more light. I don't know for 
 certain. The Lightsphere is pretty much proven in use, so I'm going to have a 
 go with it for now.
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Re: Re[2]: PESO: The planet of two bugs

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Both are very nice, but the larger photo gives me more of an idea what
planet the bugs live on.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 3:44 PM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For me, i like the larger photo, showing more of the flower/weed

 Dave

 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 9:01 AM,  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Paul,

 Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 1:14:29 PM, you wrote:

 PS Nicely done. I look forward to seeing the tight shot.
 PS Paul
 PS On Jun 18, 2008, at 5:39 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm putting the other version of the same photo:

 http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=21949full=1

 Each of them are interesting for me, and I can't desode which is
 better. Each is interesting as for me.

  And thanks to all, who answered to me!

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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/6/08, Fernando, discombobulated, unleashed:

Glad you like it;

getting some ideas for the next trip to NY? ;-)

Sure - except being a Brit, I would apologise profusely, ask politely,
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Re: PESO: Kenosha Harbor Light

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Gorgeous shot.  What can I say? I love lighthouses.
Pat

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 Here's a shot from sunset today up in Wisconsin.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7410100size=lg

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Re: K10D back from Pentax Canada

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
Initial, non scientific test, shows vast improvements.

Looking good.:-), at least with the daf50

Dave

On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks

 Laidlaw BBQ this morning. I'll try it out after that

 Dave

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 For the third time.

 This time, i sent in my brand new DAF 50 f2.8 with the camera.

 I know Paul said don't bother but i figures WTF.:-)

 Paper work said Clean, adjust, adjust back focus to lens.

 So, it looks like i was not imagining things.

 BUT

 I have not had a chance to look at the camera, but the way things go
 for me, the camera will work fine from f4-f2.8 and
 now suck from f5.6 to f 22:-)

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Re: Agility photos. was Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
Bill, this shot from Matthew is very similar to how i shoot horse jumping.

I focus at the base of the jump, which will give me some DOF in front
and a bit behind, and what for the moment then shoot.

Sounds simply, but it took a while to get the timing down.

Lots of useless film, t first.

Dave

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 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:00 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not having access to a 1D, my method of shooting Agility is to pick one 
 obstacle and focus on
 it. When the dog gets to it, I take a picture. Usually, either too early or 
 too late.

 That's what I do with my K10D, but I don't find the timing to be too
 hard.  Keeping my left eye open helps.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2441122563/

 I previously shot my wife's dogs with manual-focus Canon FD gear, so I
 guess I got used to working that way.  AF.S speeds up prefocusing on
 the jump, at least.

 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.  I had a
 1-in-108 success ratio my first time out.  At least it makes the dogs
 seem easy.

 Excellent shot!! I never seem to get it quite right. I don't look through the 
 viewfinder at all
 when shooting Agility, I set up on the obstacle and watch the dog. I just 
 don't quite have the
 timing down yet. We don't have many events here, so  don't get much practice. 
 I tried shooting
 barn swallows at my inlaws acreage years ago with one of my Nikons (probably 
 the FE). The best I
 managed over a 36 exposure roll was a black streak near the edge of the frame 
 that could have
 been anything. Those little suckers are fast.

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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Matthew Hunt wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matthew Hunt wrote:
 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.
 African or European?
 
 That gives me an idea... if I put out coconuts for them to carry, it
 would probably slow them down...

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Re: PESO - In Her Own World

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:15 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Once again you've captured a little slice isolation, you can almost feel
 she's going home to a bleak apartment and a couple of cats...

Or three, like we have.:-)
Great shot Frank.

I',m thinking going to work, not coming from.??

Dave

 (or maybe I'm reading too much into this).  .

 frank theriault wrote:
 http://tinyurl.com/5sojwx

 http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFugCujZs6I/CVI/ux36-WfOVYc/s1600-h/jun_19_08+005.jpg

 Comments always welcome.

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K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Let me preface this by saying that I started out with the ZX-5N and
moved to the istDS.  I became quite familiar with the whirl of the
Pentax AF motor.  Of course, I could always focus manually to avoid
that issue.

However, this week I received the K200D paired with the DA* 50-135.  I
was deafened by the silence of this combination. =)  Just to convince
myself that nothing was wrong, I put the DA* on the istDS.  The sound
of the AF motor assured me that all was right with the world again.
Just really pleased by the quiet of SDM technology.

Just had to share.
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Re: K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread David J Brooks
Ya, but you won't get those nasty stares in subways, like Frank gets.

vbg

Dave

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:28 PM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Let me preface this by saying that I started out with the ZX-5N and
 moved to the istDS.  I became quite familiar with the whirl of the
 Pentax AF motor.  Of course, I could always focus manually to avoid
 that issue.

 However, this week I received the K200D paired with the DA* 50-135.  I
 was deafened by the silence of this combination. =)  Just to convince
 myself that nothing was wrong, I put the DA* on the istDS.  The sound
 of the AF motor assured me that all was right with the world again.
 Just really pleased by the quiet of SDM technology.

 Just had to share.
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Re: K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Sure I will.  The 50-135 is not exactly an inconspicuous (?sp) lens,
lengthwise.  ;)

To be inconspicuous, gimme the istDS + FA28.

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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Fernando wrote:
 I found this video (for the street photographers a la in your face)
 of Bruce Gilden working:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM

Wow. Great video - what a character!

I just don't think much of his photography, I'm afraid.

To my eye, every one of the shots Juan Buhler has on the page he just 
posted is better than any of the shots I saw in the Bruce Gilden video.




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Re: K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread Adam Maas
I wouldn't call the K200D/50-135 exactly conspicuous. At least not
compared to a 645 with a 150 prime (Holy Mirror Slap, Batman) or even
my D300 with f2.8 glass mounted. But it's definitely more conspicuous
than a DS with a 28/2.8

-Adam

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 Sure I will.  The 50-135 is not exactly an inconspicuous (?sp) lens,
 lengthwise.  ;)

 To be inconspicuous, gimme the istDS + FA28.

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Re: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread Ken Waller
Very cute capture. I'd personally like a little sense of motion tho.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: Whe!


 Cardboarding on the hill at the park today. K20D, DA*50-135 at 135mm,  
 f3.2 @1/4000, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7429683size=lg


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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Scott Loveless
Mark Roberts wrote:
 Matthew Hunt wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Matthew Hunt wrote:
 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.
 African or European?
 That gives me an idea... if I put out coconuts for them to carry, it
 would probably slow them down...
 
 Or just try to photograph a slower bird. Like the Norwegian Blue, for 
 example. Beautiful plumage...
  
Or cormorants.  We don't get enough cormorant photos around here anymore.

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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Fernando
On 6/20/08, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fernando wrote:
  I found this video (for the street photographers a la in your face)
  of Bruce Gilden working:
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM

 Wow. Great video - what a character!

 I just don't think much of his photography, I'm afraid.

 To my eye, every one of the shots Juan Buhler has on the page he just
 posted is better than any of the shots I saw in the Bruce Gilden video.


I enjoy both types of photography, I don't think they are comparable,
is like a good wine and ice cream; I like them both, I don't mix them
together. The more I research the more I find that street
photography is just an umbrella for so many types of photography;
little rules... (the in your face remark was my mild attempt of a
warning)

Still funny to see the guy in his safari style shouting at people ;-)





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Re: K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread Scott Loveless
David J Brooks wrote:
 Ya, but you won't get those nasty stares in subways, like Frank gets.
 
I don't think that has anything to do with his camera.

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Re: K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Well, I *might* take the 50-135 on the subway (as Dave wrote that
Frank does).  I don't have a 645, but I would not carry a D300 w/ 2.8
glass mounted.  SO has that set-up and I walk tipsy after carrying it.
=)

Love my DS + 28.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wouldn't call the K200D/50-135 exactly conspicuous. At least not
 compared to a 645 with a 150 prime (Holy Mirror Slap, Batman) or even
 my D300 with f2.8 glass mounted. But it's definitely more conspicuous
 than a DS with a 28/2.8

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Re: K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
Let me re-phrase that.  Dave wrote that Frank takes pics on the
subway. Not that Frank uses a 50-135 on the subway.

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:58 AM, gldnbearz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, I *might* take the 50-135 on the subway (as Dave wrote that
 Frank does).  I don't have a 645, but I would not carry a D300 w/ 2.8
 glass mounted.  SO has that set-up and I walk tipsy after carrying it.
 =)

 Love my DS + 28.

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 I wouldn't call the K200D/50-135 exactly conspicuous. At least not
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 my D300 with f2.8 glass mounted. But it's definitely more conspicuous
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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Ken Waller
Were they migrating?

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 Matthew Hunt wrote:
 Lately, I've been trying to shoot swallows in flight.

 African or European?

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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or cormorants.  We don't get enough cormorant photos around here anymore.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2507506970/

Happy to oblige.  I also have a picture of the dock after he left, but
I didn't upload that one...

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Re: PESO - Share and Share Alike

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
I love this shot.  The in-laws have a golden retriever who can often
be seen in that position.  However, I don't think I've ever seen the
folks w/ such a look of disapproval.

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:36 PM, frank theriault
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What I don't get is the disapproving looks from the couple on the
 right.  In fact, they may make the pic (such as it is) more than the
 two main subjects:

 http://tinyurl.com/4qj8sn

 http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZZrVFlkuI/CTE/aWUG8Owl05w/s1600-h/jun_16_08+004.jpg

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Re: GESO: Cadiz

2008-06-20 Thread Gonz
I like L1001573.jpg very much.



On 6/20/08, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello all,

  This is my typical post that happens every one or two months.
  Apologies for the on/off lurking.

  I'm just finished with a workshop with Alex Webb and Rebecca Norris
  Webb in Cadiz, Spain. We shot for four days, and these are my pictures
  for that time:

  http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz

  I'm shooting a lot with the M8, although the K10D with 12-24 comes
  with me always, just for when I need a wider perspective. The first
  picture of the set is with the K10D.

  Comments welcome,

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Re: PUG reminder

2008-06-20 Thread Rebekah
Or cormorants.  We don't get enough cormorant photos around here anymore.

I'm feeling obliging as well.  comorant and anhinga ;)


http://picasaweb.google.com/rg2pdml/MAG523/photo#5214030266974189538


African or European?


I just watched that movie two nights ago - quoted it at work, and
found my staff staring at me like I'd grown a few more heads, and so I
invited them oversheesh, I'm starting to feel old


rg2


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 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 1:56 PM, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Or cormorants.  We don't get enough cormorant photos around here anymore.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/coneslayer/2507506970/

 Happy to oblige.  I also have a picture of the dock after he left, but
 I didn't upload that one...

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Re: PESO - In Her Own World

2008-06-20 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 01:28:39PM -0400, David J Brooks wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:15 AM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Once again you've captured a little slice isolation, you can almost feel
  she's going home to a bleak apartment and a couple of cats...
 
 Or three, like we have.:-)

Only three?  That's nothing!  We've got 22 at present ...

Admittedly 13 of them are small (foster kittens).
But it's still a lot of mouths at feeding time.


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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Cotty
On 20/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

think much of his photography, I'm afraid.

To my eye, every one of the shots Juan Buhler has on the page he just 
posted is better than any of the shots I saw in the Bruce Gilden video.

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Re: PESO - Share and Share Alike

2008-06-20 Thread John Francis

Is it disapproval, or just quizzical curiosity?  I'm not sure.


On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:03:53AM -0700, gldnbearz wrote:
 I love this shot.  The in-laws have a golden retriever who can often
 be seen in that position.  However, I don't think I've ever seen the
 folks w/ such a look of disapproval.
 
 On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 2:36 PM, frank theriault
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  What I don't get is the disapproving looks from the couple on the
  right.  In fact, they may make the pic (such as it is) more than the
  two main subjects:
 
  http://tinyurl.com/4qj8sn
 
  http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SFZZrVFlkuI/CTE/aWUG8Owl05w/s1600-h/jun_16_08+004.jpg
 
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PESO: Lines and Shadows

2008-06-20 Thread gldnbearz
There are days when I really like this photo and there are days it
makes me go eh.  Your thoughts welcomed.

http://picasaweb.google.com/gldnbearz.pdml/PDML/photo#5209394652063172338

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Re: Lightsphere vs Lumiquest

2008-06-20 Thread Bruce Dayton
Good information.  Thanks for posting!

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Friday, June 20, 2008, 10:14:27 AM, you wrote:

WH I found another camera store here that carries the Lightsphere line.
WH They had a Whale Tail but I wasn't impressed.
WH I did but another LS, the clear one. When I got home I put a piece of
WH aluminum foil on the back half to reflect the light forward. It makes
WH a tremendous difference in the amount of light output. I can shoot
WH across a big room at f/8 at iso 200 and get good exposures. I also
WH noted that even with a vertical composition and the flash off to the
WH side the light is still nice and no obvious shadow coming from the
WH background.

WH Walt

WH On 6/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Bruce,
 Yes, the Whale Tail is newer, and it's similar in concept to the 
 lightsphere. I haven't met anyone who is using one yet. It seems to offer 
 even more options than the lightsphere, but it may suck up more light. I 
 don't know for certain. The Lightsphere is pretty much proven in use, so I'm 
 going to have a go with it for now.
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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread Mark Roberts
Cotty wrote:
 On 20/6/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 think much of his photography, I'm afraid.

 To my eye, every one of the shots Juan Buhler has on the page he just 
 posted is better than any of the shots I saw in the Bruce Gilden video.
 
 link pls Mark.

http://www.jbuhler.com/photos/index.php?album=cadiz




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Re: Bruce Gilden

2008-06-20 Thread P. J. Alling
Mark Roberts wrote:
 Fernando wrote:
   
 I found this video (for the street photographers a la in your face)
 of Bruce Gilden working:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM
 

 Wow. Great video - what a character!

 I just don't think much of his photography, I'm afraid.

 To my eye, every one of the shots Juan Buhler has on the page he just 
 posted is better than any of the shots I saw in the Bruce Gilden video.
   
That's kind of what I was thinking.  No actually I was thinking Wee Gee 
without the talent.


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Re: PESO: Lines and Shadows

2008-06-20 Thread Jack Davis
Pat, I think my eh days might be the slightly greater number.
Notice how decisive I am?  :-)

Jack 


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 Date: Friday, June 20, 2008, 11:29 AM
 There are days when I really like this photo and there are
 days it
 makes me go eh.  Your thoughts welcomed.
 
 http://picasaweb.google.com/gldnbearz.pdml/PDML/photo#5209394652063172338
 
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Re: Lightsphere vs Lumiquest

2008-06-20 Thread pnstenquist
Fong has an accessory that works much like your aluminum foil. It's called the 
chrome dome, and it places a reflector in the back and part of the top. I 
believe there's also a clear opening for ceiling bouce.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I found another camera store here that carries the Lightsphere line.
 They had a Whale Tail but I wasn't impressed.
 I did but another LS, the clear one. When I got home I put a piece of
 aluminum foil on the back half to reflect the light forward. It makes
 a tremendous difference in the amount of light output. I can shoot
 across a big room at f/8 at iso 200 and get good exposures. I also
 noted that even with a vertical composition and the flash off to the
 side the light is still nice and no obvious shadow coming from the
 background.
 
 Walt
 
 On 6/18/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Bruce,
  Yes, the Whale Tail is newer, and it's similar in concept to the 
  lightsphere. 
 I haven't met anyone who is using one yet. It seems to offer even more 
 options 
 than the lightsphere, but it may suck up more light. I don't know for 
 certain. 
 The Lightsphere is pretty much proven in use, so I'm going to have a go with 
 it 
 for now.
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Re: K10D back from Pentax Canada

2008-06-20 Thread pnstenquist
Good news. It should now work fine with all your lenses and, hopefully, with 
SDM lenses as well.
Paul
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 Initial, non scientific test, shows vast improvements.
 
 Looking good.:-), at least with the daf50
 
 Dave
 
 On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 6:43 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks
 
  Laidlaw BBQ this morning. I'll try it out after that
 
  Dave
 
  On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Christine  Aguila
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  Dave:  I hope all goes well with the K10D.  Cheers, Christine
 
 
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  From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:57 PM
  Subject: K10D back from Pentax Canada
 
 
  For the third time.
 
  This time, i sent in my brand new DAF 50 f2.8 with the camera.
 
  I know Paul said don't bother but i figures WTF.:-)
 
  Paper work said Clean, adjust, adjust back focus to lens.
 
  So, it looks like i was not imagining things.
 
  BUT
 
  I have not had a chance to look at the camera, but the way things go
  for me, the camera will work fine from f4-f2.8 and
  now suck from f5.6 to f 22:-)
 
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Re: K200D SDM wow...

2008-06-20 Thread pnstenquist
Nice isn't it. I know the feeling. I did a double take when I used my first DA* 
lens. Initial impression was that nothing happened:-).
Paul
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 Let me preface this by saying that I started out with the ZX-5N and
 moved to the istDS.  I became quite familiar with the whirl of the
 Pentax AF motor.  Of course, I could always focus manually to avoid
 that issue.
 
 However, this week I received the K200D paired with the DA* 50-135.  I
 was deafened by the silence of this combination. =)  Just to convince
 myself that nothing was wrong, I put the DA* on the istDS.  The sound
 of the AF motor assured me that all was right with the world again.
 Just really pleased by the quiet of SDM technology.
 
 Just had to share.
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Re: Wheeeee!

2008-06-20 Thread pnstenquist
Yes, I agree. I tried some slow shutter speed pans but missed. the duration of 
the slide is just a second or tow. Tough to track, but I'll try again. Of 
course:-).
Paul
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 Very cute capture. I'd personally like a little sense of motion tho.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f
 
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 Subject: PESO: Whe!
 
 
  Cardboarding on the hill at the park today. K20D, DA*50-135 at 135mm,  
  f3.2 @1/4000, 540 flash in high-speed synch mode
  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=7429683size=lg
 
 
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GESO: Portraits

2008-06-20 Thread John Celio
Recently started posting pics from 2003 in my gallery, and yesterday was
Portrait Day.  Please ignore the blog-babble at the beginning of the
post:

http://www.neovenator.com/2008/06/watching-lot-of-movies-last-couple.html
Or view them in the actual gallery, without my comments:
http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=454

Thanks, now back to lurking.

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