Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Christian

frank theriault wrote:

Think about it:  race cars have seatbelts, not airbags.  There must be
a reason for that...

cheers,
frank


Race cars also shed energy by disintegrating on impact.  Most single 
seaters have carbon fiber survival capsules surrounding the driver and 
 saloon cars or stock cars have full roll cages.  Also the seatbelts in 
a race car allow very little freedom of movement unlike your standard 
family car's shoulder and lap belt.


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Re: PESO: Old Blue Eyes

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Dan Matyola danmaty...@verizon.net wrote:
 I ran into this lovely creature on my recent trip to New Orleans, at the
 Audubon Aquarium of the Americas:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8856654

 Dan M

My ex-wife?

Cool shot, especially (as has already been said) for through glass.

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PESO: Waiting for Mardi Gras

2009-03-30 Thread Dan Matyola

From a  store on Bourbon Street, New Orleans:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8856823


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Re: PESO #009 - Yellow Galaxy

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mimosas...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-010.html

 Be brutal and honest, as usual.

I think it's beautiful.

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*ist-D troubleshooting.. is it dying?

2009-03-30 Thread Thibouille
Ist-D of a friend (the one I sold him in fact) behaves strangely:

* Goes off when witing to card
* Very slow write to the card, even more so since he bought a 8GB CF card.

Firmware is 1.12 (latest one).

Any suggestion?

I fear it would cost quite a lot to repair it.

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Re: PESO - Inside the greenhouse

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Brendan MacRae
brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This is the reason I bought the DA 10-17mm last year, so I could capture 
 these sorts of shots.

 Another possible for a magazine article for sometime this year...or maybe 
 next.

 http://www.primelensphoto.com/IMGP9554.jpg

 K20D, DA 10-17mm @ 10mm, f5.6, 1/180, ISO 100, custom WB

 Oh, and this may or may not qualify as a cat picture.

 -Brendan

I like it!

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Re: *ist-D troubleshooting.. is it dying?

2009-03-30 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Thibouille

Subject: *ist-D troubleshooting.. is it dying?



Ist-D of a friend (the one I sold him in fact) behaves strangely:

* Goes off when witing to card
* Very slow write to the card, even more so since he bought a 8GB CF card.

Firmware is 1.12 (latest one).

Any suggestion?

I fear it would cost quite a lot to repair it.


Try a smaller card.
I know that in theory the latest firmware supports big cards, but this 
doesn't necessarily mean full support.


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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:

 Race cars also shed energy by disintegrating on impact.  Most single seaters
 have carbon fiber survival capsules surrounding the driver and  saloon
 cars or stock cars have full roll cages.  Also the seatbelts in a race car
 allow very little freedom of movement unlike your standard family car's
 shoulder and lap belt.

Agreed, but to a lesser extent, street cars have the same thing.  The
passenger compartment is generally surrounded by a protective rigid
cage and there are crumple zones that shed energy especially in
front and rear collisions.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
Frank,

The CL is nice, but it is not exactly inexpensive, at least to me. :)

May be Olympus Stylus Epic is a good choice for a film guy?

-Pasvorn

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:07 AM, frank theriault
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 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:51 AM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hey, Mr. Film Guy:

 http://www.prime-junta.net/pont/img/Reviews/045_Leica_CL/leicacl.jpg

 cheers,
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Re: *ist-D troubleshooting.. is it dying?

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:23 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:


 Try a smaller card.
 I know that in theory the latest firmware supports big cards, but this
 doesn't necessarily mean full support.

I've recently been using a 4 gb card in my *istD, with no deleterious
effects.  It gives me like a thousand hi-res j-pegs, so I'm pretty
happy with that.

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Re: PESO - Subway Smiles

2009-03-30 Thread Pasvorn Boonmark
Frank,

I agree with Cotty.  He has a very good point about the subway collection.

-Pasvorn

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 30/3/09, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/03/subway-smiles.html

Smiles for a Monday morning.

Comments are always welcome.


 Really like that grab Frank. Love the sense of movement in the picture,
 and the smiles are magic. You should do a Blurb book of your best subway
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Re: PESO - Subway Smiles

2009-03-30 Thread Jack Davis

Well, I'll bet you were still warm on the inside well after getting off the 
subway.
Enjoyed your remarks.

Jack


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 Subject: Re: PESO - Subway Smiles
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 8:16 AM
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Jack Davis
 jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  A real 'feel good' shot. Such delightfully
 warm relationships are rare and it takes a keen photog to
 catch one.
 
 
 You know, Jack, I watched this pair for about 5 subway
 stops before
 they rushed to get off.  They were sitting there playing a
 spelling
 game.  The mother would point to an advertisement and the
 boy would
 read it, or she would spell a word on a sign and he'd
 have to find the
 sign and point to it.  They were laughing and hugging and I
 kept
 missing them.
 
 It was wonderful to see, but I was getting frustrated!
 
 ;-)
 
 I got one lame shot of them that really didn't convey
 the warmth and
 love between this mother and son.  Then just as we pulled
 into a
 station they lept up and ran for the door and I managed to
 get the
 shot you see here.  I was glad to have captured those
 smiles.
 
 They really made my day - not the photograph, it was just
 heartwarming
 (on a dark, cold, rainy day) to see such loving interaction
 between
 two people in public.
 
 BTW, when I got off the subway, this is what I saw:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2009/03/sunday-morning-rain.html
 
  ...so those smiles were needed!
 
 Thanks to you and Cotty for your kind words.
 
 cheers,
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (one for the ladies)

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 9:04 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Here is another from this weekends workshop:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3395993054/

 Direct link (~80kb)
 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3571/3395993054_677724689a_o.jpg

 We were lucky to have an amateur body builder in our group who gave
 our model some pointers on accentuating his assets.

Too many moles.  I don't like moles.

Other than that, good photo.

;-)

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Re: GESO - Dame Helen

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 Bit late but hey, busy weekend.

 A friend and colleague is leaving to set up her own production company
 and I did her a set of publicity stills from her commercial TV days.
 Good brownie points as she will hopefully be giving me some work, so did
 it for expenses. Pleased with the results - here's a gallery of 23 pics
 - I shot about a hundred. All with Pentax *ist Ds and 18-55 lens. You
 can guess which were shot with the A*85/1.4 !

 http://gallery.me.com/cottycam#100027

She's got a very pretty smile!

Nice set (of photos, I mean)...

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Re: *ist-D troubleshooting.. is it dying?

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
Try a smaller card, i think thats the problem.

Dave

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 Ist-D of a friend (the one I sold him in fact) behaves strangely:

 * Goes off when witing to card
 * Very slow write to the card, even more so since he bought a 8GB CF card.

 Firmware is 1.12 (latest one).

 Any suggestion?

 I fear it would cost quite a lot to repair it.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
Scott.

I bought my daughter the A540, i think it is, for xmas a while back,
and it does a good job, and has a VF.
My G3 has a VF, so maybe look into a G series.

Dave

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 Hi there.

 The 750z I've been using the last few years for snapshots is just
 about shot.  Besides losing the charger, I've also managed to break
 the articulating LCD again (Pentax fixed it under warranty the first
 time).  So I'm shopping for an inexpensive pocket camera with an
 optical viewfinder and it looks like this sort of thing is damn near
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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net wrote:
 Frank,

 The CL is nice, but it is not exactly inexpensive, at least to me. :)

 May be Olympus Stylus Epic is a good choice for a film guy?

I was just jerkin' Scott's chain.

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Re: PESO: Another over processed picture of Lyndsaye

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 Again, brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/monolynds1.html

 Techy stuff:

 K20D @ ISO 100, f/4, 160 second.
 Four lights spread around the set with seeming randomness that worked out
 fairly well.

 Also, thank to everyone who looked at and made such kind comments about the
 pictures of my homely friend and the tulips.

Those eyes!

Lovely!

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Re: *ist-D troubleshooting.. is it dying?

2009-03-30 Thread Luiz Felipe
Looks like the problems started before the supercard arrived... I'd try 
other cards and monitor the batt condition. Any coincidence between the 
firmware update and the problem?? Hope it's repairable...


LF

Thibouille escreveu:

Ist-D of a friend (the one I sold him in fact) behaves strangely:

* Goes off when witing to card
* Very slow write to the card, even more so since he bought a 8GB CF card.

Firmware is 1.12 (latest one).

Any suggestion?

I fear it would cost quite a lot to repair it.



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Re: PESO: Early Flower - Late Storm

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 One more from this weekend. The cat photo was a chance shot as I was passing
 through to process several dozen attempts to record the impact of our usual
 late-March snow-and-ice storm on our usual mid-March flowers. Again with the
 new DA 55/1.4

 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p821843095/e21b57ab8

Poor thing...

:-(

Nice photo...

;-)

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Luiz Felipe

...about to attacked...
Scott, the Nikon D50 - I think that's the model - offers a compact with 
wide angle zoom and optical viewfinder, around $100. Optical finders are 
getting hard to find indeed...


LF (well, if Pentax offered any I'd suggest it)

Scott Loveless escreveu:

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote:

The Canon A series used to be a great compromise between features and 
price...at a cost, that in this case was its size.


I've been looking at the A series.  I just have to bottle my
conscience long enough to actually buy one.  ;)  Canon seems to be
offering something I little closer to what I really want than anyone
else right now.  I'll keep digging.  There are a lot of PS cameras
out there.


BTW, I read a very favourable review (5 stars) in the French Magazine CdI of 
the Pentax P70. It seems that the image quality is good and the camera is 
really small. The drawback is that t has SR based on software post processing, 
and this produces a lag between frames when shooting at full resolution. No 
optical VF I am afraid.


No optical VF is a deal breaker, unfortunately.  Didn't someone
offer a small digital camera with a prime lens not too long ago?



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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net 
 wrote:
 Frank,

 The CL is nice, but it is not exactly inexpensive, at least to me. :)

 May be Olympus Stylus Epic is a good choice for a film guy?

 I was just jerkin' Scott's chain.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Mark Roberts

Jaume Lahuerta wrote:

- Mensaje original 


De: Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com

No optical VF is a deal breaker, unfortunately.  Didn't someone
offer a small digital camera with a prime lens not too long ago?


This must be either Sigma DP1/DP2 or Ricoh GR Digital. Not sure about the 
Sigma, but at least the Ricoh had an external optical VF as an option.
What they don't fulfill is the (low) cost requirement I am afraid...


The Sigma DP2 has a 24mm f/2.8 prime (roughly the angle of view of 50mm 
on FF) and you can get an accessory optical viewfinder.


The camera is about $650.00, though. Not available yet, but should be 
very soon. Amazon is accepting pre-orders: 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001W3429E?ie=UTF8tag=cmrmrs-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B001W3429E


I'm seriously considering one of these.

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Re: PESO - Jess (one for the lads)

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Nice shot. But like Christian, I'd like to see more fill on the shadow  
side of her face. Just a close in reflector would have picked up a lot  
of light from the background.

Paul
On Mar 30, 2009, at 11:57 AM, Christian wrote:


David Savage wrote:

G'day All,
Last one for now  this one is on topic because I actually used a
Pentax camera  lens:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3399052492/
Direct link (~135kb)
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3399052492_fffd1462ec_o.jpg
K20D, FA77mm f1.8, f8 @ 1/100, ISO 100.
3 light set-up. 2 flagged lights firing onto the white background
metered @ f11. Large(ish) softbox camera left.


She's cute.  I'd like to see more light on the side of her face to  
show off the crazy makeup a bit better, but otherwise I like it.


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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:
 The Sigma DP2 has a 24mm f/2.8 prime (roughly the angle of view of 50mm on
 FF) and you can get an accessory optical viewfinder.

 The camera is about $650.00, though. Not available yet, but should be very
 soon. Amazon is accepting pre-orders:
 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001W3429E?ie=UTF8tag=cmrmrs-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B001W3429E

It sure looks nice, but it falls well outside my inexpensive
requirement.  I basically want the digital equivalent of a Canonet.
It doesn't appear to exist.  And if it did it would probably cost at
least as much as the DP2.  Grr.

This really sucks.  I just want something simple that I can pull up to
my eye and then throw the photos out on the web when I get home.  But
all I see is chimp-approved plastic junk with smile recognition.  WTF
happened to cameras?  Am I the only person in the whole wide world
that doesn't want a zillion worthless features at the expense of
something functional?

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Re: PESO: Another over processed picture of Lyndsaye

2009-03-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:22 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:
 Again, brought to you by the letters D and A, and the number 55.

 http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/monolynds1.html

That's very, very nice.  I tried, but I can't really find anything to
complain about.

So when are you going to give us a critical comparison of the
DA*55/14. and the FA50/1.4?

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Re: *ist-D troubleshooting.. is it dying?

2009-03-30 Thread Boris Liberman
IIRC the very latest firmware was actually 1.13. Nonetheless, trying a 
different card could be useful.


Boris

Thibouille wrote:

Ist-D of a friend (the one I sold him in fact) behaves strangely:

* Goes off when witing to card
* Very slow write to the card, even more so since he bought a 8GB CF card.

Firmware is 1.12 (latest one).

Any suggestion?

I fear it would cost quite a lot to repair it.




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Re: PESO: Another over processed picture of Lyndsaye

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan
 Subject: Re: PESO: Another over processed picture of Lyndsaye


 Bill,
 Her face seems so broad in this photo, much more so than before.
 It makes me wonder about the perspective.
 Looks almost like you used a 28 mm on film.

 Most of the close work I've done with her have been with the 85mm lens. The
 difference in perspective is quite startling. I'm thinking that part of my
 post processing work for this shoot (I did everything with the 55) is going
 to involve a bit of transforming to narrow her face up a little.

You can work on me next then.:-)

I like the shot, so clear and crisp.

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Re: PESO - Subway Smiles

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
Nice. I like the bit of motion blur on the lady getting up.

I agree with Cotty, make a blurb book.

Dave

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 http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/03/subway-smiles.html

 Smiles for a Monday morning.

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Re: OT PESO - Translucent

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:39 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 One from the weekend. Spur of the moment idea that worked better than
 I had expected.:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3395121961/

 Direct link (~135kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3395121961_8cd857df7e_o.jpg

 One Nikon SB-900 behind the models head pointed towards the camera.

Very interesting.  I like it!

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
snip Am I the only person in the whole wide world
 that doesn't want a zillion worthless features at the expense of
 something functional?

Apparently you are...

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Adam Maas
Optical viewfinder yes, compact no. The D50 is an older Nikon DSLR. I
suspect you're referring to the P50, which should be avoided. Nikon's
PS production of the last few years start at bad and get rapidly
worse.

Optical finders are dying off. Mostly because PS finders are typically horrid.

-Adam

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:01 PM, Luiz Felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br wrote:
 ...about to attacked...
 Scott, the Nikon D50 - I think that's the model - offers a compact with wide
 angle zoom and optical viewfinder, around $100. Optical finders are getting
 hard to find indeed...

 LF (well, if Pentax offered any I'd suggest it)

 Scott Loveless escreveu:

 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 The Canon A series used to be a great compromise between features and
 price...at a cost, that in this case was its size.

 I've been looking at the A series.  I just have to bottle my
 conscience long enough to actually buy one.  ;)  Canon seems to be
 offering something I little closer to what I really want than anyone
 else right now.  I'll keep digging.  There are a lot of PS cameras
 out there.

 BTW, I read a very favourable review (5 stars) in the French Magazine CdI
 of the Pentax P70. It seems that the image quality is good and the camera is
 really small. The drawback is that t has SR based on software post
 processing, and this produces a lag between frames when shooting at full
 resolution. No optical VF I am afraid.

 No optical VF is a deal breaker, unfortunately.  Didn't someone
 offer a small digital camera with a prime lens not too long ago?


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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield.  Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags.  Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but not your head.  When my brain's gone, just send me to the
organ harvesters.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:
 On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:

Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags  now.

 One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their 50-
 year old design is the lack of any airbags.

 One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have done in
 2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.

 Seatbelts protect from more types of crashes than airbags.  In fact
 airbags without seatbelts can be quite dangerous (seatbelts help keep
 you in place so the bags hit you in the right place and don't do
 more damage than help).

 Personally I think that the advantages of airbags are exaggerated
 (especially since they're basically explosive devices that shoot a
 plastic shield at your body and high speed) whereas the advantages of
 seatbelts have been underplayed.  I would never feel safe i a car
 without wearing seatbelts, but I really don't care if my car has
 airbags or not.

 Think about it:  race cars have seatbelts, not airbags.  There must be
 a reason for that...

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:49 PM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Pasvorn Boonmark pasv...@boonmark.net 
 wrote:
 Frank,

 The CL is nice, but it is not exactly inexpensive, at least to me. :)

 May be Olympus Stylus Epic is a good choice for a film guy?

 I was just jerkin' Scott's chain.

 That's two.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 snip Am I the only person in the whole wide world
 that doesn't want a zillion worthless features at the expense of
 something functional?

 Apparently you are...

Okay, I'm the other person (so it's nice to know there are at least
two of us, although it scares me that I'm in a group with you...).

;-)

I mean seriously, that's why I posted like a week and a half ago,
whinging that I've never used more than 10% of the features of my
dinosaur *istD!  I just want something (with manual override, of
course) that allows me to take individual photographs.  I'll live with
autofocus (but don't need it).  I'll live with autoexposure (but don't
need it).

I don't need much more...

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 Optical viewfinder yes, compact no. The D50 is an older Nikon DSLR. I
 suspect you're referring to the P50, which should be avoided. Nikon's
 PS production of the last few years start at bad and get rapidly
 worse.

 Optical finders are dying off. Mostly because PS finders are typically 
 horrid.

Everyone uses optical viewfinders.
PS makers put crappy viewfinders in their cameras.
Everyone decides that using the stupid little screen is better than
looking through a keyhole.
PS makers stop making cameras with optical viewfinders because no one
is using them.

Go figure.

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Re: PESO - Subway Smiles

2009-03-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Actually, find a sponsor in the arts or public transit and mount an
exhibition in city hall, or a mall, museum, or gallery.  They are a
wonderful collection and are so much more powerful when they are there
to support one another.  You need an agent Frank!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:40 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nice. I like the bit of motion blur on the lady getting up.

 I agree with Cotty, make a blurb book.

 Dave

 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:26 AM, frank theriault
 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/03/subway-smiles.html

 Smiles for a Monday morning.

 Comments are always welcome.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Bill Owens
No potical VF and not pocketable, but 10x optical zoom, aperature and
shutter priority, super macro and my real dinosaur Optio MX

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 snip Am I the only person in the whole wide world
 that doesn't want a zillion worthless features at the expense of
 something functional?

 Apparently you are...

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
 the top of the windshield.  Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
 why I'm happy with my side airbags.  Seatbelts will keep your butt in
 place, but not your head.  When my brain's gone, just send me to the
 organ harvesters.
 Regards,  Bob S.

Shoulder belts will keep your head from hitting the top of the
windshield.  In fact I'd advocate 5 point belts for consumer use.  Or
at least 4 point belts.  With everything else they can figure out
these days, I'm sure they could arrange belts over each shoulder that
would be neither cumbersome nor inconvenient.

As my father would have said, If they can send a man to the moon...

;-)

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:52 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Okay, I'm the other person (so it's nice to know there are at least
 two of us, although it scares me that I'm in a group with you...).

 ;-)

Who wouldn't be scared?

 I mean seriously, that's why I posted like a week and a half ago,
 whinging that I've never used more than 10% of the features of my
 dinosaur *istD!  I just want something (with manual override, of
 course) that allows me to take individual photographs.  I'll live with
 autofocus (but don't need it).  I'll live with autoexposure (but don't
 need it).

I have the same problem with mobile phones.  I don't want to check my
email, surf the web, download music/movies/ringtones, text, take
pictures or wipe my butt with it.  I want to talk to people on the
phone.  I want an address book and voice mail.  That's about it.  No
one makes anything like that anymore, though.  I have to accept the
option of using a bunch of superfluous crap that I'll never ever use,
and I can't help but think that the prices might be lower if it were
otherwise.

 I don't need much more...

I'm a curmudgeon at 33.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Mark Roberts

Scott Loveless wrote:

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

The Sigma DP2 has a 24mm f/2.8 prime (roughly the angle of view of 50mm on
FF) and you can get an accessory optical viewfinder.

The camera is about $650.00, though. Not available yet, but should be very
soon. Amazon is accepting pre-orders:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001W3429E?ie=UTF8tag=cmrmrs-20linkCode=as2camp=1789creative=390957creativeASIN=B001W3429E


It sure looks nice, but it falls well outside my inexpensive
requirement.  I basically want the digital equivalent of a Canonet.
It doesn't appear to exist.  And if it did it would probably cost at
least as much as the DP2.  Grr.

This really sucks.  I just want something simple that I can pull up to
my eye and then throw the photos out on the web when I get home.  But
all I see is chimp-approved plastic junk with smile recognition.  WTF
happened to cameras?  Am I the only person in the whole wide world
that doesn't want a zillion worthless features at the expense of
something functional?


No but you're the only person who thinks he can get it for less than 
$650 ;-)


(KIDDING!)




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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Adam Maas
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote:
 Optical viewfinder yes, compact no. The D50 is an older Nikon DSLR. I
 suspect you're referring to the P50, which should be avoided. Nikon's
 PS production of the last few years start at bad and get rapidly
 worse.

 Optical finders are dying off. Mostly because PS finders are typically 
 horrid.

 Everyone uses optical viewfinders.
 PS makers put crappy viewfinders in their cameras.
 Everyone decides that using the stupid little screen is better than
 looking through a keyhole.
 PS makers stop making cameras with optical viewfinders because no one
 is using them.

 Go figure.


Well, in their defence, the crappy viewfinders have been around since
the 1980's. People just figured out with digital that the big LCD's
beat the tiny optical finders they'd been stuck with.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Scott Loveless sdlovel...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
 I'm a curmudgeon at 33.

That's okay, you look 45...

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Doug Brewer

Scott Loveless wrote:



I have the same problem with mobile phones.  I don't want to check my
email, surf the web, download music/movies/ringtones, text, take
pictures or wipe my butt with it.  I want to talk to people on the
phone.  I want an address book and voice mail.  That's about it.  No
one makes anything like that anymore, though.  I have to accept the
option of using a bunch of superfluous crap that I'll never ever use,
and I can't help but think that the prices might be lower if it were
otherwise.


Hello, Graywolf

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Re: PESO - Jess (one for the lads)

2009-03-30 Thread Bob Sullivan
Very nice Dave!
The expression is a wonderful catch.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:31 AM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 Last one for now  this one is on topic because I actually used a
 Pentax camera  lens:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3399052492/

 Direct link (~135kb)

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3399052492_fffd1462ec_o.jpg

 K20D, FA77mm f1.8, f8 @ 1/100, ISO 100.

 3 light set-up. 2 flagged lights firing onto the white background
 metered @ f11. Large(ish) softbox camera left.

 Enjoy.

 Cheers,

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread John Mullan
Race car drivers wear a multipoint harness including an anti-submarine 
strap, and are strapped down tight. You would never put up with their 
harness in a street car, let alone being strapped down as tight as they are. 
In addition they are in a helmet, and many now are using a head and neck 
restraint device to keep the head from whipping around ontop of the spine.

jm
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From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

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Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield.  Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags.  Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but not your head.  When my brain's gone, just send me to the
organ harvesters.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:


Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags now.


One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their 50-
year old design is the lack of any airbags.

One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have done in
2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.


Seatbelts protect from more types of crashes than airbags. In fact
airbags without seatbelts can be quite dangerous (seatbelts help keep
you in place so the bags hit you in the right place and don't do
more damage than help).

Personally I think that the advantages of airbags are exaggerated
(especially since they're basically explosive devices that shoot a
plastic shield at your body and high speed) whereas the advantages of
seatbelts have been underplayed. I would never feel safe i a car
without wearing seatbelts, but I really don't care if my car has
airbags or not.

Think about it: race cars have seatbelts, not airbags. There must be
a reason for that...

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Re: PESO: Owl

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I've been looking for the owl I heard earlier this month, trying to get some
 idea of its habits. Yesterday, I spotted it on the nest I thought it might
 use, and came back today with my camera:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/3396685627/

 K10D, Sigma 300 2.8 + Sigma APO 1.4x tele-converter, on a tripod ...
 ISO 400 (I think)

 The image is a bit soft. I've noticed that whenever I use the 1.4x
 converter, even though it's supposed to be matched to the lens.

 It just kills me. Some guy came along with a Nikon D200  200 mm Nikon IS
 lens and chimping what he got looked a whole lot sharper than what I got.

 But ... it's what I got.

Yeah, well, what can you tell from chimping?  Maybe he has in-camera
sharpening on and you don't?  I certainly keep mine off (prefer to
sharpen - if I do at all - in post-processing).

You both using the same tripods and all?

I guess my point is that there may be lots of variables involved in
his apparent sharpness.

BTW, that's a wonderful shot you took!

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes airbags have been proven extremely valuable over and over again.  
When I worked on Mercedes advertising, I was able to witness some  
offset and full frontal impact crash testing. the airbags provided far  
better head protection than seatbelts alone. And side airbags and side  
curtain airbags have just made cars that much safer. The next  
Defender, BTW, is equipped with air bags. The lack of them in the  
current models wasn't a matter of intelligent choice, it was simply a  
matter of inadequate resources.

Paul
On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield.  Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags.  Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but not your head.  When my brain's gone, just send me to the
organ harvesters.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:


Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags  now.


One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their  
50-

year old design is the lack of any airbags.

One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have  
done in

2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.


Seatbelts protect from more types of crashes than airbags.  In fact
airbags without seatbelts can be quite dangerous (seatbelts help keep
you in place so the bags hit you in the right place and don't do
more damage than help).

Personally I think that the advantages of airbags are exaggerated
(especially since they're basically explosive devices that shoot a
plastic shield at your body and high speed) whereas the advantages of
seatbelts have been underplayed.  I would never feel safe i a car
without wearing seatbelts, but I really don't care if my car has
airbags or not.

Think about it:  race cars have seatbelts, not airbags.  There must  
be

a reason for that...

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I think all professional racing classes now use a complex head and  
neck restraint. I know it became mandatory in drag racing after Eric  
Medlen was killed in a testing accident where he merely bounced off  
the guardrail. They were introduced to NASCAR after Dale Earnhardt was  
killed in a collision with the wall that didn't appear to be very  
punishing. I witnessed that one. A sad day.

Paul
On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:22 PM, John Mullan wrote:

Race car drivers wear a multipoint harness including an anti- 
submarine strap, and are strapped down tight. You would never put up  
with their harness in a street car, let alone being strapped down as  
tight as they are. In addition they are in a helmet, and many now  
are using a head and neck restraint device to keep the head from  
whipping around ontop of the spine.

jm
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com 


To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Write-off


Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield.  Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags.  Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but not your head.  When my brain's gone, just send me to the
organ harvesters.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:


Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags now.


One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their  
50-

year old design is the lack of any airbags.

One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have  
done in

2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.


Seatbelts protect from more types of crashes than airbags. In fact
airbags without seatbelts can be quite dangerous (seatbelts help keep
you in place so the bags hit you in the right place and don't do
more damage than help).

Personally I think that the advantages of airbags are exaggerated
(especially since they're basically explosive devices that shoot a
plastic shield at your body and high speed) whereas the advantages of
seatbelts have been underplayed. I would never feel safe i a car
without wearing seatbelts, but I really don't care if my car has
airbags or not.

Think about it: race cars have seatbelts, not airbags. There must be
a reason for that...

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Re: PESO: Bird Watcher (w/ DA55/1.4)

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Stan Halpin
s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
 Warning: feline content!

 http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p821843095/e80a3dbc


I like it just as it is.

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 Scott Loveless wrote:


 I have the same problem with mobile phones.  I don't want to check my
 email, surf the web, download music/movies/ringtones, text, take
 pictures or wipe my butt with it.  I want to talk to people on the
 phone.  I want an address book and voice mail.  That's about it.  No
 one makes anything like that anymore, though.  I have to accept the
 option of using a bunch of superfluous crap that I'll never ever use,
 and I can't help but think that the prices might be lower if it were
 otherwise.

 Hello, Graywolf

LMAO!

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:
 Yes airbags have been proven extremely valuable over and over again. When I
 worked on Mercedes advertising, I was able to witness some offset and full
 frontal impact crash testing. the airbags provided far better head
 protection than seatbelts alone. And side airbags and side curtain airbags
 have just made cars that much safer. The next Defender, BTW, is equipped
 with air bags. The lack of them in the current models wasn't a matter of
 intelligent choice, it was simply a matter of inadequate resources.
 Paul

Airbags are certainly extremely valuable, but they work much better if
the occupant is also in a seatbelt.

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Re: PESO: Bird Watcher (w/ DA55/1.4)

2009-03-30 Thread Jack Davis

What Frank said.

Jack


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 Subject: Re: PESO: Bird Watcher (w/ DA55/1.4)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 11:35 AM
 On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Stan Halpin
 s...@stans-photography.info wrote:
  Warning: feline content!
 
  http://photos.stanhalpin.com/p821843095/e80a3dbc
 
 
 I like it just as it is.
 
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Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?

2009-03-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Why is it worth every penny?

I do my own BW rendering.
I see no point to wasting money using someone else's notions of how to  
render BW.


G

On Mar 28, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


It's worth every penny. Here you can see an example



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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Stenquist


On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:37 PM, frank theriault wrote:

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 2:25 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 
 wrote:
Yes airbags have been proven extremely valuable over and over  
again. When I
worked on Mercedes advertising, I was able to witness some offset  
and full

frontal impact crash testing. the airbags provided far better head
protection than seatbelts alone. And side airbags and side curtain  
airbags
have just made cars that much safer. The next Defender, BTW, is  
equipped
with air bags. The lack of them in the current models wasn't a  
matter of

intelligent choice, it was simply a matter of inadequate resources.
Paul


Airbags are certainly extremely valuable, but they work much better if
the occupant is also in a seatbelt.

cheers,
frank

Undeniably. In fact car company lawyers wont allow the mention of  
airbags in advertising unless its accompanied by a notice that the  
seat belts must be worn as well. Airbags can, in fact, be dangerous if  
the belts aren't worn. Restraint systems utilize a combination of  
approaches to achieve effectiveness, and because the various  
components are engineered to work together, a pick and choose strategy  
is deadly.

Paul


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Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. And with all the BW rendering tools available in standard  
conversion and photo processing software, I can't imagine why a  
dedicated standalone would be helpful.

Paul
On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:41 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:


Why is it worth every penny?

I do my own BW rendering.
I see no point to wasting money using someone else's notions of how  
to render BW.


G

On Mar 28, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


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Re: Such is the fate of a film camera..

2009-03-30 Thread Gonz
Sad.  The ME Super was my first SLR.   Great little camera.  Still
have mine, but it has issues from a fall.

gonz


On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 I bought (off of Craigslist) today a Pentax ME Super in absolutely pristine
 condition.  It came in a camera bag, with a Vivitar Auto-Thyristor flash (no
 tilt or swivel, oh well).  There were two rolls of Fuji film in the bag
 (best when developed before March of 1996!).

 Attached to the ME Super was an A-50mm f/1.7 lens.

 Total cost?  $10.

 I didn't even NEED the lens - but at that price?  Wow.  Had to do it.

 Anyone want an ME Super body?  I'll never use it.

  -Charles

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RE: PESO - Subway Smiles

2009-03-30 Thread Bob W
 
 http://knarf-underground.blogspot.com/2009/03/subway-smiles.html
 
 Smiles for a Monday morning.
 
 Comments are always welcome.
 
 cheers,
 frank
 

Nice smiles. They look like Ethiopians or Eritreans.

Bob


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PESO - The Bond

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
This is kind of part II to this morning's Subway Smiles PESO.

I told Jack that I'd gotten one other of this delightful duo, but that
it wasn't a very interesting shot.

Another viewing convinced me that maybe it wasn't as bad as I'd
earlier thought.

It is so obvious that these two love each other that I can't resist
another view of them:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/bond.html

Comment, if you will...

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Ken Waller


Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com


Subject: Re: OT: Write-off


On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:


Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags now.


One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their 50-
year old design is the lack of any airbags.

One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have done in
2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.


Seatbelts protect from more types of crashes than airbags.  In fact
airbags without seatbelts can be quite dangerous (seatbelts help keep
you in place so the bags hit you in the right place and don't do
more damage than help).

Personally I think that the advantages of airbags are exaggerated
(especially since they're basically explosive devices that shoot a
plastic shield at your body and high speed) whereas the advantages of
seatbelts have been underplayed.  I would never feel safe i a car
without wearing seatbelts, but I really don't care if my car has
airbags or not.

Think about it:  race cars have seatbelts, not airbags.  There must be
a reason for that...

There is - the ruling bodies insist that occupant restraints are used.

Airbags are a political statement for the jerk that won't use occupant 
restraints.


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Re: PESO - Jess (one for the lads)

2009-03-30 Thread Ken Waller
Nice. 


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com

Subject: PESO - Jess (one for the lads)



G'day All,

Last one for now  this one is on topic because I actually used a
Pentax camera  lens:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3399052492/

Direct link (~135kb)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3570/3399052492_fffd1462ec_o.jpg

K20D, FA77mm f1.8, f8 @ 1/100, ISO 100.

3 light set-up. 2 flagged lights firing onto the white background
metered @ f11. Large(ish) softbox camera left.

Enjoy.

Cheers,

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Re: GESO - That 70's Thang

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 5:23 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Warning: Polyvinyl platforms within

 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/09/09_03/09_03_70s/index.htm

And I thought the 70's were a bad dream...

;-)

Seriously fun photos, Derby!

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Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?

2009-03-30 Thread Manuel Magalhães
Ok Godfrey. You have a point there, but I don't have the time nor the
knowledge to do the things you do with respect to render BW, so I don't
mind to waste my money in something that gives me, immediately, so I can
choose:
- More than 32 levels of BW rendering i.e Pinhole, Holga, Antique
solarization and so on.
- ISO 32 Kodak Panatomic X
- ISO 50 Ilford Pan F Plus 50
- ISO 100 Agfa APX Pro
-ISO 100 Fuji Neopan Acros
- ISO 100 Kodak Plus X TMAX Pro
And many more...

That's why, for me, it works.

BTW Wonderful work guys with the PDML book! I just received my copy.

Best regards,
Manuel 


On 09/03/30 19:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:

 Why is it worth every penny?
 
 I do my own BW rendering.
 I see no point to wasting money using someone else's notions of how to
 render BW.
 
 G
 
 On Mar 28, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:
 
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Re: PESO Egyptian on the Rocks

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Christine  Aguila
cagu...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Everyone:  I found some painted art on the rocks  some playful light
 along the Lake Michigan shore on a short photowalk last Saturday.  There are
 3 different renderings here.  I'd be interested in knowing if you had a
 preference.  The 2nd rendering is pretty much as seen--as they say :-).


 http://faculty.ccc.edu/caguila/egyptian/index.html

 comments welcome, Cheers, Christine

Is that a banana peel, and ankh, or are you just happy to see me?

;-)

Seriously, I like #1.  It has to be in colour (BW just doesn't cut it
in this case - odd tho' that might be to hear from me), and I like the
more contrasty look to the first one.

Fun shot!

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Re: PESO Egyptian on the Rocks

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 3:31 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
snip
 Is that a banana peel, and ankh, or are you just happy to see me?
snip

I meant to say, Is that a banana peel, ~an~ ankh, or are you just
happy to see me?

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Ken Waller

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http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

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From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Write-off


I think all professional racing classes now use a complex head and  neck 
restraint. I know it became mandatory in drag racing after Eric  Medlen was 
killed in a testing accident where he merely bounced off  the guardrail. 
They were introduced to NASCAR after Dale Earnhardt was  killed in a 
collision with the wall that didn't appear to be very  punishing. I 
witnessed that one. A sad day.


The story I'm familar with on the Earnhardt fatality is that he had 
'monkeyed' around with the belt. His imapct should have been surviveable.


The closing velocity of his car to the wall (velocity perpendicular to the 
wall) was not that much.



Paul
On Mar 30, 2009, at 2:22 PM, John Mullan wrote:

Race car drivers wear a multipoint harness including an anti- submarine 
strap, and are strapped down tight. You would never put up  with their 
harness in a street car, let alone being strapped down as  tight as they 
are. In addition they are in a helmet, and many now  are using a head and 
neck restraint device to keep the head from  whipping around ontop of the 
spine.

jm
- Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com

To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Write-off


Your forehead can survive lots, but not an 80g crash into the bar at
the top of the windshield.  Race car drivers wear helmets and that's
why I'm happy with my side airbags.  Seatbelts will keep your butt in
place, but not your head.  When my brain's gone, just send me to the
organ harvesters.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 10:44 AM, frank theriault
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On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:03 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote:

On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:


Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags now.


One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their  50-
year old design is the lack of any airbags.

One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have  done 
in

2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.


Seatbelts protect from more types of crashes than airbags. In fact
airbags without seatbelts can be quite dangerous (seatbelts help keep
you in place so the bags hit you in the right place and don't do
more damage than help).

Personally I think that the advantages of airbags are exaggerated
(especially since they're basically explosive devices that shoot a
plastic shield at your body and high speed) whereas the advantages of
seatbelts have been underplayed. I would never feel safe i a car
without wearing seatbelts, but I really don't care if my car has
airbags or not.

Think about it: race cars have seatbelts, not airbags. There must be
a reason for that...

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Re: OT: Write-off

2009-03-30 Thread Manuel Magalhães
The other thing, I am sure, is the way other drivers get out of your way. A
nice little car with a nice little guy in it. :))

Best regards,
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 On 29/3/09, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
 Makes me feel less unprotected by my airbags  now.
 
 One of the unfortunate things about Land Rover Defenders and their 50-
 year old design is the lack of any airbags.
 
 One of the interesting things is that in the 70,000 miles I have done in
 2 years in it, I have learned respect for defensive driving.
 
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Re: PESO - Inside the greenhouse

2009-03-30 Thread Manuel Magalhães
Is because of clever and well done shots like this that I've ordered one of
those lens.
Wonderful composition and use of fish eye.

Best regards,
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On 09/03/30 03:19, Brendan MacRae brendanmacrae1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 
 This is the reason I bought the DA 10-17mm last year, so I could capture these
 sorts of shots.
 
 Another possible for a magazine article for sometime this year...or maybe
 next.
 
 http://www.primelensphoto.com/IMGP9554.jpg
 
 K20D, DA 10-17mm @ 10mm, f5.6, 1/180, ISO 100, custom WB
 
 Oh, and this may or may not qualify as a cat picture.
 
 -Brendan
 
 
   
 
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Re: PESO - portrait of our cat

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Pawel Hottowy hott...@gmail.com wrote:
 I am quite new to this list, so - hello everyone!

 And here is my first PESO here - a portrait of Dunia celebrating lazy
 morning in our kitchen:
 http://www.pbase.com/pawelh/image/109689755/original

 k10d + FA 50/1.4

Welcome aboard!  I'm sure you'll enjoy your stay.

Lovely photo of your cat!

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Re: Compliment for Jostein

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 6:32 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 Has anyone mentioned the compliment Jostein got on Yvon's blog? I concur

 http://pentaxdslrs.blogspot.com/2009/03/do-you-know-who-has-most-photos-in.html


Very cool!

And, no, I'm not the anonymous commenter whining about not having any
in the gallery.  Although, in point of fact, I ~don't~ have any in the
Pentax Gallery...

;-)

Thanks for posting this.  Jostein is getting to be quite the celebrity
these days!

;-)

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Re: Peso: Saturday hike

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:12 AM, Sasha Sobol sa...@asobol.com wrote:
 http://www.flickriver.com/photos/sobol/sets/72157615970999173/
 Comments and critique are very welcome!


I'm going to jump on the #1 and #4 bandwagon.

And of those two, #1 is particularly stunning.

Great work!

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Re: PESO: Waiting for Mardi Gras

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Dan Matyola danmaty...@verizon.net wrote:
 From a  store on Bourbon Street, New Orleans:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8856823


 Dan M

I really like this one.  Seems a tad soft for what it is, but not
offensively so.

Nice shot.

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Re: PESO #011.1 two shots from DA 50-135

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi!

 The permission was granted...

 http://pentax-ways.blogspot.com/2009/03/peso-2009-0111.html

 ;-)

 Both shot wide open. Be brutal and honest.

I like the second one best.  Dynamic and more stuff going on - it's
just more interesting to me.

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Re: PESO - Iris Awakening

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 11:10 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 I've shot more in the last week, last week and a  half than I probably have
 in the previous five months.

 So feel I've used  a lot of bandwidth. But one more pic before the weekend.

 I shot Cherry  Blossoms several times (one time when I took the crows) about
 a week ago. Too  much light, too much wind.

 Inspired by Paul, Doug, and Bruce I went out  today to do some Cherry Blossom
 macros (I'll have to go through them carefully).

 And what did I find? On my tree, half of them have fallen off. A cherry
 blossom petal snowfall.

 But beneath the tree I found the first Iris.  Well, the start of the first
 Iris.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/iris.htm

 Don't even  know if it's worth showing with all these good flower shots
 around...

 ...you tell me.

That's quite beautiful!

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Re: PESO - Product shot

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
 Just playing around with a 55/1.8 SMC Takumar on the 20D.  I was going for a
 commercial or product kind of shot.

 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2009/03/classic-cosmo.html

 Light was from a window as well as a bit of flash bounced off the ceiling.

 Enjoy.

 Comments always appreciated.

Looks like a girlie drink - all it needs is a little paper umbrella.

;-)

Lovely shot, though - love the colours, the comp and the narrow dof
works for me.

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Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Stenquist

Well now that sounds like it might be fun if not necessary. Fun is good.
Paul
On Mar 30, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


Ok Godfrey. You have a point there, but I don't have the time nor the
knowledge to do the things you do with respect to render BW, so I  
don't
mind to waste my money in something that gives me, immediately, so I  
can

choose:
- More than 32 levels of BW rendering i.e Pinhole, Holga, Antique
solarization and so on.
- ISO 32 Kodak Panatomic X
- ISO 50 Ilford Pan F Plus 50
- ISO 100 Agfa APX Pro
-ISO 100 Fuji Neopan Acros
- ISO 100 Kodak Plus X TMAX Pro
And many more...

That's why, for me, it works.

BTW Wonderful work guys with the PDML book! I just received my copy.

Best regards,
Manuel


On 09/03/30 19:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:


Why is it worth every penny?

I do my own BW rendering.
I see no point to wasting money using someone else's notions of how  
to

render BW.

G

On Mar 28, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


It's worth every penny. Here you can see an example



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Re: PESO - informal portrait

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Christian christ...@skofteland.net wrote:
 More fun with the 55 1.8 SMC Takumar.  Kerry (the wife) and Alex (the
 daughter named after a camera).

 http://404mohawknotfound.blogspot.com/2009/03/blog-post.html

 Comments appreciated.

Fun!

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Re: Geso Back yard photos

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 9:14 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:


 You have a more interesting  backyard than I do. :-)

At least you have a back yard...

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Re: Geso Back yard photos

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:20 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Today is a very dark, windy, rainy day, but yesterday was nice and sunny.

 Walked around the back yard looking for anything of interest, and
 these are the results.

 http://picasaweb.google.ca/pentkon52/BackyardMarch09#

 K10D, FA 100 F2.8 macro, LR 2 conversions.


I especially like the maple leaf (good Canadian boy that I am).

Was that IR?

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Re: PESO - Early Spring Churchyard

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The churchyard at St. Giles, Oxford:

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8851082size=lg

 (K10D and DA 16-45)

 Rick

Very nice.

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Re: PESO: The Portrait

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
2009/3/28 Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net:
 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8850893

Terrific shot!

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Re: GESO Walk the dog

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Toine to...@repiuk.nl wrote:
 Our latest family expansion, a retired guide dog for the blind called Pepijn:

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=64Itemid=83

 K20D DA16-45


I like them all, but especially the two dogs interacting (third shot).

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Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?

2009-03-30 Thread William Robb


- Original Message - 
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi 
Subject: Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?



Why is it worth every penny?

I do my own BW rendering.
I see no point to wasting money using someone else's notions of how to  
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You ever thought about just starting a religion?

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Re: PESO - The Bond

2009-03-30 Thread Jack Davis

There are endearing aspects of this image that may even surpass those in the 
first.
The communication glow and obvious unrealized touch.
Special!

Jack


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 Subject: PESO - The Bond
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
 Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:11 PM
 This is kind of part II to this morning's Subway Smiles
 PESO.
 
 I told Jack that I'd gotten one other of this
 delightful duo, but that
 it wasn't a very interesting shot.
 
 Another viewing convinced me that maybe it wasn't as
 bad as I'd
 earlier thought.
 
 It is so obvious that these two love each other that I
 can't resist
 another view of them:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/bond.html
 
 Comment, if you will...
 
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Re: PESO - Iris Awakening

2009-03-30 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 3/30/2009 1:03:43 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
knarftheria...@gmail.com writes:
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009  at 11:10 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 I've shot more in  the last week, last week and a  half than I probably have
 in the  previous five months.

 So feel I've used  a lot of  bandwidth. But one more pic before the weekend.

 I shot  Cherry  Blossoms several times (one time when I took the crows)  
about
 a week ago. Too  much light, too much wind.

  Inspired by Paul, Doug, and Bruce I went out  today to do some Cherry  
Blossom
 macros (I'll have to go through them carefully).

  And what did I find? On my tree, half of them have fallen off. A cherry
  blossom petal snowfall.

 But beneath the tree I found the first  Iris.  Well, the start of the first
 Iris.

  http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/iris.htm

 Don't  even  know if it's worth showing with all these good flower shots
  around...

 ...you tell me.

That's quite  beautiful!

cheers,
frank

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Re: Geso Back yard photos

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:18 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 8:20 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Today is a very dark, windy, rainy day, but yesterday was nice and sunny.

 Walked around the back yard looking for anything of interest, and
 these are the results.

 http://picasaweb.google.ca/pentkon52/BackyardMarch09#

 K10D, FA 100 F2.8 macro, LR 2 conversions.


 I especially like the maple leaf (good Canadian boy that I am).

 Was that IR?

Thanks all for the comments. Good thing i shot these Saturday, cause
after the rain Sunday, 1/2 my back yard is under water.

No, not IR Frank. Every thing was shot in colour and i played around
with the leaf shots, and these two looked nice, at least to me, in
BW.

I figure my G3 IR camera will start getting a work out just after
Easter weekend.

Dave

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Re: PESO - The Bond

2009-03-30 Thread Paul Stenquist

A great moment. Well done.
Paul
On Mar 30, 2009, at 4:35 PM, Jack Davis wrote:



There are endearing aspects of this image that may even surpass  
those in the first.

The communication glow and obvious unrealized touch.
Special!

Jack


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From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com
Subject: PESO - The Bond
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net
Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 12:11 PM
This is kind of part II to this morning's Subway Smiles
PESO.

I told Jack that I'd gotten one other of this
delightful duo, but that
it wasn't a very interesting shot.

Another viewing convinced me that maybe it wasn't as
bad as I'd
earlier thought.

It is so obvious that these two love each other that I
can't resist
another view of them:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2009/03/bond.html

Comment, if you will...

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Re: OT PESO - Translucent

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
Very interesting and nice lo look at.

Dave

On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:39 PM, David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com wrote:
 G'day All,

 One from the weekend. Spur of the moment idea that worked better than
 I had expected.:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/disavage/3395121961/

 Direct link (~135kb):

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3557/3395121961_8cd857df7e_o.jpg

 One Nikon SB-900 behind the models head pointed towards the camera.

 Enjoy.

 Cheers,

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Re: PESO: Owl

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I've been looking for the owl I heard earlier this month, trying to get some
 idea of its habits. Yesterday, I spotted it on the nest I thought it might
 use, and came back today with my camera:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/3396685627/

 K10D, Sigma 300 2.8 + Sigma APO 1.4x tele-converter, on a tripod ...
 ISO 400 (I think)

Nice shot, a tighter crop would help, but ...:-)


 The image is a bit soft. I've noticed that whenever I use the 1.4x
 converter, even though it's supposed to be matched to the lens.

Same thing when using my Sigma 300 F4 and Sigma 1.4 tele.

 It just kills me. Some guy came along with a Nikon D200  200 mm Nikon IS
 lens and chimping what he got looked a whole lot sharper than what I got.

Don't have to tell me.:-)


 But ... it's what I got.

And its pretty decent.

Dave

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Re: PESO: Owl

2009-03-30 Thread David J Brooks
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 10:34 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 I've been looking for the owl I heard earlier this month, trying to get some
 idea of its habits. Yesterday, I spotted it on the nest I thought it might
 use, and came back today with my camera:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/3396685627/

 K10D, Sigma 300 2.8 + Sigma APO 1.4x tele-converter, on a tripod ...
 ISO 400 (I think)

Nice shot, a tighter crop would help, but ...:-)


 The image is a bit soft. I've noticed that whenever I use the 1.4x
 converter, even though it's supposed to be matched to the lens.

Same thing when using my Sigma 300 F4 and Sigma 1.4 tele.

 It just kills me. Some guy came along with a Nikon D200  200 mm Nikon IS
 lens and chimping what he got looked a whole lot sharper than what I got.

Don't have to tell me.:-)


 But ... it's what I got.

And its pretty decent.

Dave

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Re: point and shoot

2009-03-30 Thread Rick Womer

Nope.

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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PESO - Cherry Blossom Exuberance

2009-03-30 Thread Eactivist
As stated previously, when I shot Cherry  Blossoms last week it was too sunny 
and too windy. Now my tree has very few  blossoms left, they don't last long.

Not a great or even that good a  shot, but it shows how pretty my tree was in 
flower. 

(Looked at close  up, some of these blossom are very sharp and in focus, 
others are  not.)

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/cherry.htm

An  artified version of the same thing, which I  prefer.

http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/cherryb.htm

Enjoy.  Comments certainly not turned away.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  

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Re: PESO: Owl

2009-03-30 Thread Rick Womer

John,

That is a very nice shot.  I don't think I've ever even =seen= an owl in its 
nest, much less with a chick, and much much less with a camera available.

The softness looks to me like motion blur (when I enlarge the photo as much as 
Flickr allows).  Did you use the 2sec timer?  Was SR off?

I don't care much for teleconverters in any case...

Rick

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--- On Sun, 3/29/09, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: PESO: Owl
 To: pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Sunday, March 29, 2009, 10:34 PM
 I've been looking for the owl I heard earlier this
 month, trying to get some idea of its habits. Yesterday, I
 spotted it on the nest I thought it might use, and came back
 today with my camera:
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/3396685627/
 
 K10D, Sigma 300 2.8 + Sigma APO 1.4x tele-converter, on a
 tripod ...
 ISO 400 (I think)
 
 The image is a bit soft. I've noticed that whenever I
 use the 1.4x converter, even though it's supposed to be
 matched to the lens.
 
 It just kills me. Some guy came along with a Nikon D200
  200 mm Nikon IS lens and chimping what he got looked a
 whole lot sharper than what I got.
 
 But ... it's what I got.
 
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Re: GESO: some sunsets (SMCP M 80-200/4.5: a sleeper!)

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just some sunsets; took out a friend's SMCP M 80-200/4.5 which was
 lying around unused.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/sets/72157616081288138/

 Two of those were my latest photos accepted in PPG; this lens is
 great.  Bojidar lists its availability as used, in several years
 ...hmmm, to break the bank to keep it?


Wow!

Terrific, beautiful stuff!

cheers,
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Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?

2009-03-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi


On Mar 30, 2009, at 1:33 PM, William Robb wrote:


Why is it worth every penny?

I do my own BW rendering.
I see no point to wasting money using someone else's notions of how  
to  render BW.


The one true way has spoken.
You ever thought about just starting a religion?


LOL! I'm founder of 'The Church Of The Magnetic Monopole'.
There is an associated worship of uncertain dimension out there  
somewhere. ];-)


But to your notion: I didn't say there was a one true way. I have a  
documentation library of at least 40 different BW rendering  
techniques. I see no value in using someone else's notions of how to  
do it without understanding enough about how they do it to be able to  
do it myself. This is why I don't buy plugins for much of anything.


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Re: Anyone using Silver Efex Pro?

2009-03-30 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi

Whatever floats your boat.

I render BW ... I don't emulate film.
If I want to shoot with a pinhole camera, I shoot with a pinhole camera.

G

On Mar 30, 2009, at 12:31 PM, Manuel Magalhães wrote:


Ok Godfrey. You have a point there, but I don't have the time nor the
knowledge to do the things you do with respect to render BW, so I  
don't
mind to waste my money in something that gives me, immediately, so I  
can

choose:
- More than 32 levels of BW rendering i.e Pinhole, Holga, Antique
solarization and so on.
- ISO 32 Kodak Panatomic X
- ISO 50 Ilford Pan F Plus 50
- ISO 100 Agfa APX Pro
-ISO 100 Fuji Neopan Acros
- ISO 100 Kodak Plus X TMAX Pro
And many more...


On 09/03/30 19:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:


Why is it worth every penny?

I do my own BW rendering.
I see no point to wasting money using someone else's notions of how  
to

render BW.



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RE: Geso Back yard photos

2009-03-30 Thread Bob W
 
  You have a more interesting  backyard than I do. :-)
 
 At least you have a back yard...
 

We used to dream about 'avin' a back yard. We 'ad to 'ang our washing on uz
grandmother to dry, an' if we ever wanted to plant owt we had to plough our
lass wi' a broken stick an' shove potatoes in 'er furrows. Then at 'arvest
time a gang 'o gypsies used to lift 'er 'taters for t'pleasure on't.

Aye. But we was reet 'appy.

An' if our Mam ever 'ad a farthin' to spare she'd gi' it us and all five on
us'd go dahn t'shop, buy a stick o' liquorice an' we'd all 'av a lick*

Bob

*that last one is genuine - my mother and her sisters


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Re: Geso Back yard photos

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 We used to dream about 'avin' a back yard. We 'ad to 'ang our washing on uz
 grandmother to dry, an' if we ever wanted to plant owt we had to plough our
 lass wi' a broken stick an' shove potatoes in 'er furrows. Then at 'arvest
 time a gang 'o gypsies used to lift 'er 'taters for t'pleasure on't.

 Aye. But we was reet 'appy.

 An' if our Mam ever 'ad a farthin' to spare she'd gi' it us and all five on
 us'd go dahn t'shop, buy a stick o' liquorice an' we'd all 'av a lick*


Are you by any chance from Yorkshire?

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Re: PESO - Cherry Blossom Exuberance

2009-03-30 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 4:52 PM,  eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
 As stated previously, when I shot Cherry  Blossoms last week it was too sunny
 and too windy. Now my tree has very few  blossoms left, they don't last long.

 Not a great or even that good a  shot, but it shows how pretty my tree was in
 flower.

 (Looked at close  up, some of these blossom are very sharp and in focus,
 others are  not.)

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/cherry.htm

 An  artified version of the same thing, which I  prefer.

 http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/cherryb.htm

 Enjoy.  Comments certainly not turned away.

Very pretty!

cheers,
frank (not sure which I prefer - like 'em both)

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RE: Geso Back yard photos

2009-03-30 Thread Bob W
 
  We used to dream about 'avin' a back yard. We 'ad to 'ang 
 our washing on uz
  grandmother to dry, an' if we ever wanted to plant owt we 
 had to plough our
  lass wi' a broken stick an' shove potatoes in 'er furrows. 
 Then at 'arvest
  time a gang 'o gypsies used to lift 'er 'taters for t'pleasure on't.
 
  Aye. But we was reet 'appy.
 
  An' if our Mam ever 'ad a farthin' to spare she'd gi' it us 
 and all five on
  us'd go dahn t'shop, buy a stick o' liquorice an' we'd all 
 'av a lick*
 
 
 Are you by any chance from Yorkshire?
 

Aye. Our Dad's family's from Leeds (via Lancashire, as our surname
testifies) and our Mum's family's from Bra'fud.

Bob


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