Re: OT - For the Savage in you ;-)

2011-09-17 Thread Dario Bonazza

Sorry, it was a joke.

Dario

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And I already have the money set aside.

On 16/09/2011, Dario Bonazza dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
Today Nikon unveiled the D800 to a meeting of photographers: CMOS sensor, 
24

megapixel.
I was not there, and I know nothing more.
Cheers,
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Re: OT - For the Savage in you ;-)

2011-09-17 Thread Dario Bonazza

Sorry, I've been fooled by a friend.
Dario

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Couldn't find much current info on google.

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Dario Bonazza
dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:
Today Nikon unveiled the D800 to a meeting of photographers: CMOS sensor, 
24

megapixel.
I was not there, and I know nothing more.
Cheers,
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GESO: D.F. From above

2011-09-17 Thread Tim Bray
Those who've been there know what DF stands for:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/17/Mexico-City-from-Above

(Hint: Mexico City) -T

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List problems?

2011-09-17 Thread Toine
I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account
(to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success.
I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months.

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RE: List problems?

2011-09-17 Thread Bob W
 
 I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account
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 I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months.
 
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Did you get into any flame wars?

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K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Larry Colen
I was photographing a friend's party tonight, when my K-5 stopped taking 
pictures.  

When I looked at the back, I got the battery depleted message, so I grabbed 
one of my spares.  When I put it in, I got the same problem. I grabbed my other 
spare, and ran into the same problem again.  This was rather distressing as I 
had made sure to top off at least one of the batteries before leaving.  After 
leaving the camera off, while one of the batteries was in a third party 
charger, for a while, it started working.  

Now that I'm home, I realize that the charger was showing me the whole time 
that the battery was charged (green light, it turns out it shines red when the 
battery is dead).  Not only that, but at least two of the batteries show that 
they were fully charged when I got home.

One thing that may be relevant, or not, is that I had been shooting a 
performance, and when the card filled up, it seemed to take a *really* long 
time to write everything in the buffer to the card, which left me stuck there, 
not able to do *anything* while the big performance that the birthday girl, who 
had hired me, and practiced for months, was going on.


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Re: Cab for Hire

2011-09-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/9/11, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed:

Late night on Queen's Quay Blvd:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/cab-for-hire.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

Very nice Frank, full of atmosphere.

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Re: OT video temple burn

2011-09-17 Thread Cotty
On 16/9/11, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

There's been some discussion on this list about photos and videos from
burning man.

Here is a short video on a side of the festival that doesn't get a lot
of exposure:
http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/dear-temple-of-transition-vid/

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Re: GESO: D.F. From above

2011-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
Well written intriguing article, Tim. Massive city!
 
Jack

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Subject: GESO: D.F. From above

Those who've been there know what DF stands for:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/17/Mexico-City-from-Above

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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Paul Stenquist
My K-5 charger has a green light that turns on when the battery is charging. 
When it's fully charged, the light switches off. 

Paul
On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I was photographing a friend's party tonight, when my K-5 stopped taking 
 pictures.  
 
 When I looked at the back, I got the battery depleted message, so I grabbed 
 one of my spares.  When I put it in, I got the same problem. I grabbed my 
 other spare, and ran into the same problem again.  This was rather 
 distressing as I had made sure to top off at least one of the batteries 
 before leaving.  After leaving the camera off, while one of the batteries was 
 in a third party charger, for a while, it started working.  
 
 Now that I'm home, I realize that the charger was showing me the whole time 
 that the battery was charged (green light, it turns out it shines red when 
 the battery is dead).  Not only that, but at least two of the batteries show 
 that they were fully charged when I got home.
 
 One thing that may be relevant, or not, is that I had been shooting a 
 performance, and when the card filled up, it seemed to take a *really* long 
 time to write everything in the buffer to the card, which left me stuck 
 there, not able to do *anything* while the big performance that the birthday 
 girl, who had hired me, and practiced for months, was going on.
 
 
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RE: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Jeffery Johnson
This is also the case with the charger for the K-R batteries. It will stay
green until the battery is fully charged.

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My K-5 charger has a green light that turns on when the battery is charging.
When it's fully charged, the light switches off. 

Paul
On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

 I was photographing a friend's party tonight, when my K-5 stopped taking
pictures.  
 
 When I looked at the back, I got the battery depleted message, so I
grabbed one of my spares.  When I put it in, I got the same problem. I
grabbed my other spare, and ran into the same problem again.  This was
rather distressing as I had made sure to top off at least one of the
batteries before leaving.  After leaving the camera off, while one of the
batteries was in a third party charger, for a while, it started working.  
 
 Now that I'm home, I realize that the charger was showing me the whole
time that the battery was charged (green light, it turns out it shines red
when the battery is dead).  Not only that, but at least two of the batteries
show that they were fully charged when I got home.
 
 One thing that may be relevant, or not, is that I had been shooting a
performance, and when the card filled up, it seemed to take a *really* long
time to write everything in the buffer to the card, which left me stuck
there, not able to do *anything* while the big performance that the birthday
girl, who had hired me, and practiced for months, was going on.
 
 
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Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?

2011-09-17 Thread David J Brooks
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 I should mention that the 135mm f4 with this kit is a MACRO (but the
 6x7-knowledgeable among you already figured that). The old version.

 Gee, if nothing else, I'm learning a lot investigating this particular 
 beastie.

One of the best lenses i have for my 6x7 kit is the Super Multi Coated
Tak 6x7 200 F4. Its deadly sharp.

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Re: OT - For the Savage in you ;-)

2011-09-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
Nikon friends are cruel.  ;-)  Obviously, it's supposed to be coming sometime.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Dario Bonazza
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 Sorry, I've been fooled by a friend.
 Dario

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 Couldn't find much current info on google.

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Today Nikon unveiled the D800 to a meeting of photographers: CMOS sensor,
 24
 megapixel.
 I was not there, and I know nothing more.
 Cheers,
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Re: Peso: King of the Hill

2011-09-17 Thread David J Brooks
I;m sure mike Johnson would think cats are junk:-)

dAVE

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Re: OT - For the Savage in you ;-)

2011-09-17 Thread David J Brooks
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Nikon friends are cruel.  ;-)  Obviously, it's supposed to be coming sometime.

Yes we are, its on page 78 of the manual.

Dave

 On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:03 AM, Dario Bonazza
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 Sorry, I've been fooled by a friend.
 Dario

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 Couldn't find much current info on google.

 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Dario Bonazza
 dario.bona...@virgilio.it wrote:

 Today Nikon unveiled the D800 to a meeting of photographers: CMOS sensor,
 24
 megapixel.
 I was not there, and I know nothing more.
 Cheers,
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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Rick Womer
Only one camera for a paid shoot??

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


--- On Sat, 9/17/11, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote:

 I was photographing a friend's party
 tonight, when my K-5 stopped taking pictures.  
 
 When I looked at the back, I got the battery depleted
 message, so I grabbed one of my spares.  When I put it
 in, I got the same problem. I grabbed my other spare, and
 ran into the same problem again.  This was rather
 distressing as I had made sure to top off at least one of
 the batteries before leaving.  After leaving the camera
 off, while one of the batteries was in a third party
 charger, for a while, it started working.  
 
 Now that I'm home, I realize that the charger was showing
 me the whole time that the battery was charged (green light,
 it turns out it shines red when the battery is dead). 
 Not only that, but at least two of the batteries show that
 they were fully charged when I got home.
 
 One thing that may be relevant, or not, is that I had been
 shooting a performance, and when the card filled up, it
 seemed to take a *really* long time to write everything in
 the buffer to the card, which left me stuck there, not able
 to do *anything* while the big performance that the birthday
 girl, who had hired me, and practiced for months, was going
 on.
 
 
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Re: PESO - Healing Vibrations

2011-09-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: Stan Halpin

From: steve harley

on 2011-09-15 20:38 Stan Halpin wrote

Ann, I was a bit surprised by Mark's  earlier comment that this attitude is 
more opinion than scientifically derived Truth, or words to that effect. I 
coulda' sworn that I had read a couple of articles on the topic in Human 
Factors or IEEE-SMC a few decades ago. I did a quick search, starting and 
ending with Wikipedia, and found that the apparent consensus is that there is 
no solid evidence one way or the other.

perhaps you missed the link i sent earlier -- thorough review of the research,
concluding that no conclusion can be drawn

http://alexpoole.info/which-are-more-legible-serif-or-sans-serif-typefaces

On Sep 16, 2011, at 12:02 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

Interesting article.

The whole debate has a flaw from my point of view; the unproven assumption that 
one is better than all of the others for EVERYONE.


 John - the only Truth in research on human behavior is It Depends. No 
serious social/behavioral science researcher even pretends to be looking for what is the 
right answer for everyone. The line of questioning is rather something like: a. Is there 
a difference? b. what is there about the persons and/or the situation that may cause such 
a difference (in attitude, performance, whatever.) c. Can we formulate some hypotheses, 
nascent theories which predict the phenomena?  In this case it seems that there hasn't 
been enough work to get beyond (a) or (b), but there is also no indication that this is 
any big deal. So a first-cut good enough answer is to go with serif fonts on paper and 
sans-serif on screen. Take into account possible distinctions among audiences. Then have 
a small group of people from your target audience look at your design proposal and let 
you know if they think it works. If an audience member doesn't like it, then they can 
change it. On-screen they can mani

pulate the underlying CSS files to match the screen to their preferences. On 
paper, they can switch to an e-book reader and, again, switch font size and 
style to suit.


I don't mean to sound pedantic, but I am at that point in the semester where students are starting 
to ask what is the answer? And I keep saying over and over, It Depends.



Until the answer changes to It's Depends.

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Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread John Sessoms

One of the lesser known holidays here in the U.S.

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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-17 Thread Thibouille
MZ5n also has DoF preview btw.
MZ3 has 1/4000 shutter and 1/125 sync.
Otherwise, it is the same camera AFAIK.

Small details about AF etc. can be found on B. Dimitrov website:
(search for MZ-3)  http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/technology/AF/index.html


2011/9/16 luiz felipe luiz.fel...@techmit.com.br:
 Thanks for the comments! I was hoping the MZ-3 would be somewhat quicker
 than the MZ-5, since the shutter lag and AF speed of said MZ-5 did not
 impress me when I used one, some time ago. At least the MZ-3 offers DOF
 preview.

 Since the intended use for that camera is not high quality but risky
 situations, AND the current camera is an EOS 500n, probably there will be
 one more pentax around here. We'll see...

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RE: PESO - Healing Vibrations

2011-09-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: Bob W

http://alexpoole.info/which-are-more-legible-serif-or-sans-serif-

typefaces

Interesting article.

The whole debate has a flaw from my point of view; the unproven
assumption that one is better than all of the others for EVERYONE.


That's not what anyone claims.


Irony?

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GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Toine
No idea if this gets to the list:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers

It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost extinct.
K5, F100macro

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PESO - Rooftop Tree

2011-09-17 Thread George Sinos
I can see this building through my office window.  This tree has been
growing on a rooftop for the last few years.  The building isn't
occupied and doesn't seem to be very well maintained.  It used to be
one of the bigger jewelry stores in town.

http://georges.posterous.com/

GS

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Re: Re: What does this 67 kit sound like to you?

2011-09-17 Thread Jens

I think tahe 160mm LS lens is brilliant.
I'm still haveing trouble getting good scans at addfordabel prices i Europe. 
Any ideas?
Jens
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On Sep 17, 2011 14:50 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 12:43 AM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com
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  I should mention that the 135mm f4 with this kit is a MACRO (but the
  6x7-knowledgeable among you already figured that). The old version.
 
  Gee, if nothing else, I'm learning a lot investigating this
  particular beastie.
 
 One of the best lenses i have for my 6x7 kit is the Super Multi
 Coated
 Tak 6x7 200 F4. Its deadly sharp.
 
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OT: AutoFX filters - any users here?

2011-09-17 Thread Jens
Are any of you guys using this filtering software?
Regards
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Re: GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
Like the selective focus. Well done, Toine!
Taken A few years ago (with a K-5?) or Almost extinct a few years ago?

Jack

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:49 AM
Subject: GESO Tree frog

No idea if this gets to the list:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers

It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost extinct.
K5, F100macro

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Re: PESO - Rooftop Tree

2011-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
Maybe a remnant of the jewelery store's last Christmas.(?)  Looks lonely.

Jack 

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Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:50 AM
Subject: PESO - Rooftop Tree

I can see this building through my office window.  This tree has been
growing on a rooftop for the last few years.  The building isn't
occupied and doesn't seem to be very well maintained.  It used to be
one of the bigger jewelry stores in town.

http://georges.posterous.com/

GS

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Re: List problems?

2011-09-17 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-09-17 5:19 AM, Toine wrote:

I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account
(to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success.
I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months.

Toine



FYI, this is the last message that I see from you that I received via 
the list:


  
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  Subject: Re: PESO - Not Happy with your Phone?
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  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net


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Re: GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Ribbet Ribbet

ann

On 9/17/2011 09:49, Toine wrote:

No idea if this gets to the list:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers

It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost extinct.
K5, F100macro

Toine



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RE: GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Bob W
 
 No idea if this gets to the list:
 
 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers
 
 It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost
 extinct.
 K5, F100macro
 
 Toine

that's a terrific set of pictures - where is it?

B


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Re: Cab for Hire

2011-09-17 Thread Igor Roshchin

On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 On 11-09-16 3:55 PM, Bob W wrote:
 Late night on Queen's Quay Blvd:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/cab-for-hire.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.

Interesting shot as from a movie.

 
 cheers,
 frank
 The streets were dark with something more than night - Raymond
 Chandler
 
 Bob's got it, Frank.  Your image is definitely anticipating a gunshot.
 
 Too bad nobody wears fedoras anymore.

Oh, yeah?
http://42graphy.org/misc/fedoras/IMGP7296.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/fedoras/IMGP7220.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/fedoras/_IR25364.jpg

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Re: GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 9/17/2011 8:49 AM, Toine wrote:

No idea if this gets to the list:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers

It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost extinct.
K5, F100macro

Toine


Wow.  Beautiful images, Toine!  All of them!

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David Slater's macaque: A real IP lawyer speaks out

2011-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Remember the story about the monkey who took a self-portrait and David
Slater, the photographer who tried to claim copyright on it? If not,
here's T.O.P. on the subject:
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/07/monkey-business-monkeywrench.html
and TechDirt:
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110712/01182015052/monkeys-dont-do-fair-use-news-agency-tells-techdirt-to-remove-photos.shtml

I sent a query about this matter to Rich Stim, the IP lawyer who
writes Nolo.com's intellectual property blog. TOP and other places
around the web had so many non-lawyers spouting off about this case I
thought it would be interesting to see what a real lawyer (whose books
on IP law are widely respected) had to say.

It's bad news for Slater.

http://dearrichblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/hijacked-and-automatic-photography.html

But it think it's generally good news for everyone that Mike J's
speculation that photos taken by automatically-triggered mechanisms
can't be registered turned out to be groundless.
 
 
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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 9/17/2011 4:50 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

I was photographing a friend's party tonight, when my K-5 stopped taking 
pictures.

When I looked at the back, I got the battery depleted message, so I grabbed 
one of my spares.  When I put it in, I got the same problem. I grabbed my other spare, 
and ran into the same problem again.  This was rather distressing as I had made sure to 
top off at least one of the batteries before leaving.  After leaving the camera off, 
while one of the batteries was in a third party charger, for a while, it started working.

Now that I'm home, I realize that the charger was showing me the whole time 
that the battery was charged (green light, it turns out it shines red when the 
battery is dead).  Not only that, but at least two of the batteries show that 
they were fully charged when I got home.

One thing that may be relevant, or not, is that I had been shooting a 
performance, and when the card filled up, it seemed to take a *really* long 
time to write everything in the buffer to the card, which left me stuck there, 
not able to do *anything* while the big performance that the birthday girl, who 
had hired me, and practiced for months, was going on.


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Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est


Aw, damn, Larry!  You must have been mortified!

Glad it at least started working again, but man, that's a kick in the gut.

I'll be glad when I can afford to get a new body and relegate the K-x to 
backup status.


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Re: Pentax MZ-3: is it faster than MZ-5?

2011-09-17 Thread Toralf Lund

On 9/16/11 20:48, luiz felipe wrote:
Thanks for the comments! I was hoping the MZ-3 would be somewhat 
quicker than the MZ-5, since the shutter lag and AF speed of said MZ-5 
did not impress me when I used one, some time ago. At least the MZ-3 
offers DOF preview.
I've used an MZ-5n, which like others are saying is a virtually 
identical camera, quite a lot, and I don't think the AF is as much 
slow as it is hit or miss. I've also haven't noticed any other lag. 
I've never tried the MZ-5 for comparison, though, so maybe I'm not being 
helpful.


The MZ-3 (and -5n) also has an exposure lock button, which I think the 
MZ-5 may be missing.



- Toralf


Since the intended use for that camera is not high quality but risky 
situations, AND the current camera is an EOS 500n, probably there will 
be one more pentax around here. We'll see...


Thanks!




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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Rick Womer wrote:

Only one camera for a paid shoot??

Yikes!

I have a paid shoot this afternoon. I'll be bringing two cameras.
 
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RE: Cab for Hire

2011-09-17 Thread Bob W
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 Igor Roshchin

  Late night on Queen's Quay Blvd:
 
  http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2011/09/cab-for-hire.html
 
  Hope you enjoy.  Comments welcome.
 
 Interesting shot as from a movie.
 
 
  cheers,
  frank
  The streets were dark with something more than night - Raymond
  Chandler
 
  Bob's got it, Frank.  Your image is definitely anticipating a
 gunshot.
 
  Too bad nobody wears fedoras anymore.
 
 Oh, yeah?
 http://42graphy.org/misc/fedoras/IMGP7296.jpg

that hat's wearing him.


 http://42graphy.org/misc/fedoras/IMGP7220.jpg

Yelburton: My goodness, what happened to your nose?
Gittes: Cut myself shavin'.
Yelburton: Oh, you ought to be more careful. That must really smart.
Gittes: Only when I breathe.


 http://42graphy.org/misc/fedoras/_IR25364.jpg
 

Trilbys, not fedoras.




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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:05 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

 Only one camera for a paid shoot??

Nope, I had both the K-5 and the K-x.

 

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Anyone got a web site hosted by godaddy.com?

2011-09-17 Thread Mark Roberts
Though I hope it would be unlikely after Miserere's unfortunate
hacking experience with them, if you do it might be a good idea to
check it out and make sure everything's OK:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20107541-245/hundreds-of-go-daddy-hosted-sites-compromised/

 
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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread John Francis
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 08:06:14AM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 My K-5 charger has a green light that turns on when the battery is charging. 
 When it's fully charged, the light switches off. 

Yep - that's how the D-BC90 works.

But Larry did mention he was using a third-party charger, so it might have 
different behaviour.


 
 Paul
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:50 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
 
  I was photographing a friend's party tonight, when my K-5 stopped taking 
  pictures.  
  
  When I looked at the back, I got the battery depleted message, so I 
  grabbed one of my spares.  When I put it in, I got the same problem. I 
  grabbed my other spare, and ran into the same problem again.  This was 
  rather distressing as I had made sure to top off at least one of the 
  batteries before leaving.  After leaving the camera off, while one of the 
  batteries was in a third party charger, for a while, it started working.  
  
  Now that I'm home, I realize that the charger was showing me the whole time 
  that the battery was charged (green light, it turns out it shines red when 
  the battery is dead).  Not only that, but at least two of the batteries 
  show that they were fully charged when I got home.
  
  One thing that may be relevant, or not, is that I had been shooting a 
  performance, and when the card filled up, it seemed to take a *really* long 
  time to write everything in the buffer to the card, which left me stuck 
  there, not able to do *anything* while the big performance that the 
  birthday girl, who had hired me, and practiced for months, was going on.
  
  
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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

 My K-5 charger has a green light that turns on when the battery is charging. 
 When it's fully charged, the light switches off. 
 
That's the case with my Pentax charger. I also have a third party charger that 
I carry in my camera gear for just such emergencies, which will also run off of 
a cigarette lighter socket in the car.  With three batteries, I've hardly ever 
needed it, unless I was on a road trip for several days.  It's light is red on 
charging and green on charged, and I was used to the Pentax charger that has a 
green light when charging and no light when charged

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Re: GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Toine
Thanks, it should read Almost extinct a few years ago. Maybe the
climate change helps this little frog.
Toine

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 4:36 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Like the selective focus. Well done, Toine!
 Taken A few years ago (with a K-5?) or Almost extinct a few years ago?

 Jack

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 Cc:
 Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:49 AM
 Subject: GESO Tree frog

 No idea if this gets to the list:

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers

 It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost extinct.
 K5, F100macro

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Re: Anyone got a web site hosted by godaddy.com?

2011-09-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Though I hope it would be unlikely after Miserere's unfortunate
 hacking experience with them, if you do it might be a good idea to
 check it out and make sure everything's OK:
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20107541-245/hundreds-of-go-daddy-hosted-sites-compromised/

GDGPhoto.com is hosted on GoDaddy, but so far as I can tell nothing
has been touched. All the file modification dates and files align with
my local copy of the site.

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Re: GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Toine
Thanks everyone. The frogs live in europe just like the name suggests.
These frogs are from the netherlands, almost extinct and now the
populations are growing.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 No idea if this gets to the list:

 http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers

 It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost
 extinct.
 K5, F100macro

 Toine

 that's a terrific set of pictures - where is it?

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Re: List problems?

2011-09-17 Thread Toine
It's working again from another mail account. I don't talk that much
on the list, the lost words must be minimal.
Toine

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11-09-17 5:19 AM, Toine wrote:

 I can not reach the pdml list from my primary email account
 (to...@repiuk.nl). Unsubscribed and subscribed again without success.
 I guess I was talking to myself for days/weeks/months.

 Toine


 FYI, this is the last message that I see from you that I received via the
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  Message-ID:CALjS1kGWKVj7p714gJX3Cq90WVKoAgH=_Zm7-WR-x=xfrqq...@mail.gmail.com
  Subject: Re: PESO - Not Happy with your Phone?
  From: Toineto...@repiuk.nl
  To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net


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Re: The Tao of the Compact

2011-09-17 Thread Mark C
Lately I've been thinking along these same lines myself.  I have the 
money set aside for a K5 but keep hesitating because I'm not sure that 
the incremental improvement over the K7 will be worth it.  I do a lot of 
travel these days and many of the images I've like in the last year were 
taken with my Nikon Coolpix  P6000. That's a somewhat flawed camera, 
burdened by a lot of poorly implemented 'features', a slow lens, and 
really slow buffer write times - but it still manages to cough up some 
nice images. So part of me thinks to upgrade to a better compact. But 
I'm not seeing any compacts that seem to be worth upgrading to either


MCC

On 9/15/2011 7:55 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

  Our recent discussion of the Pentax Q got me thinking, which is
always dangerous.  One big problem with list discussions is that so
much of photography is personal.  On an email list like the PDML,
folks are typing quickly and often don’t make clear when they know
they are giving an opinion and when they think they are expressing a
fact.  For example, I like small cameras because I am likely to grab
one as I walk out the door.  That was one of the attractive features
of Pentax and it’s a very attractive feature of the current generation
of mu43 cameras like the E-P2.  I am convinced the image quality of
the smaller four thirds sensors is not as good as APS-C.  Of course, I
have a K7 and the difference is less obvious that it would be with a
K5.  I could have gotten a K5 if I had sold the K7 and not bought my
more recent mu43 purchases.  I didn’t and I still wouldn’t.

 I am an amateur and my photography is there to let me play artist
and contribute to the family scrapbook.  The latter is always good
enough with any of these cameras.  My wife uses an Optio I-10 and
(annoyingly) seems to do as well as me.  Noise just doesn’t bother me
very much so my high iso performance is more than adequate.  The
biggest challenge for me is the limited dynamic range and I enjoy that
challenge.  When I am taking pictures to please myself, I don’t mind
the limitations of the camera.  Sure, I can delight in a new lens but
usually it’s a prime.  My SOP is to go off with one prime and work
around it.  I’ve recently realized that I’m a better adapter than a
chooser.  I actually dislike having to pick from too many choices.  I
find it much more satisfying to take a small camera and one prime and
try to make it work.  I completely understand that a pro can’t do this
and when I’m asked to do weddings I show up with the K7, the flash and
the FA135, the DA 18-55, etc.  Lately however, that stuff just sits in
the bag.  I honestly think that if I had the money I would get a Q and
a few lenses rather than a K5.   The Q system would be inferior for
every technical reason and it would get a lot more use.
Sorry for the manifesto but better here than going off topic in class.  ;-)





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Re: List problems?

2011-09-17 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2011-09-17 15:35, Toine wrote:

It's working again from another mail account. I don't talk that much
on the list, the lost words must be minimal.


I had a similar problem back in the spring.  Unsubscribed and 
resubscribed but that didn't fix it.  Subscribed from a different email 
account, and suddenly both started working!  I have no idea what went wrong.


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OT: The Importance of Walking

2011-09-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
The Importance of walking

Walking can add minutes to your life.
This enables you at 85 years old
to spend an additional 5 months in a nursing
home at $4,000 per month.


My grandpa started walking
five miles a day when he was 60.
Now he's 97 years old
and we have no idea where the hell he is.

I like long walks,
especially when they are taken
by people who annoy me.

The only reason I would take up walking
is so that I could hear heavy breathing again.

I have to walk early in the morning,
before my brain figures out what I'm doing...


I joined a health club last year,
spent about 250 bucks.
Haven't lost a pound.
Apparently you have to go there!

Every time I hear the dirty word 'exercise',
I wash my mouth out with chocolate.

I do have flabby thighs,
but fortunately my stomach covers them.

The advantage of exercising every day
is so when you die, they'll say,
'Well, he looks good doesn't he.'

If you are going to try cross-country skiing,
start with a small country.

I know I got a lot of exercise
the last few years,..
just getting over the hill.

We all get heavier as we get older,
because there's a lot more information in our heads.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

AND

Every time I start thinking too much
about how I look,
I just find a pub with a Happy Hour
and by the time I leave,
I look just fine.


You could run this over to your friends
But just e-mail it to them!
It will save you the walk!

Dan Matyola
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Re: PESO: Some stupid sunflower, or something . . .

2011-09-17 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:
 On 11-09-10 7:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 As you can see, I've adopted a minimalist image titling
 convention.  It simplifies things.

I like that.

About the only thing that bothers me is the blurred yellow
patches at the bottom of the flower area.


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Re: PESO: Some stupid sunflower, or something . . .

2011-09-17 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 07:11:45PM -0500, Walt Gilbert wrote:

 The only change I made was auto-leveling, which for some reason
 brought out a lot of cyan, which I desaturated out.

It brought out a lot of cyan because auto-levels tries to create
an image that averages out to a uniform grey.  You've got a lot
of yellow in that shot, so it compensates by shifiting everything
away from yellow (i.e. towards cyan).

Unless I'm trying to fix a colour cast, I'll generally use auto
contrast rather than auto levels for just that reason.


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Re: PESO: Some stupid sunflower, or something . . .

2011-09-17 Thread John Francis
On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 06:38:28PM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
 
 I *much* prefer the feel of the K100 to the K-x.  It has several important 
 features that are missing in the K-x, and even a few that are still missing 
 in the K-r.  In good light, i.e. ISO 200,  I think that the sensor actually 
 gives better photos than the K-x or K20.

The K100 uses the old (Sony) sensor, doesn't it? (not the Samsung sensor of the 
K20).

I'm not totally surprised to find that there are some circumstances when it does
better than the K20; there were times when I thought the K10 was at least as 
good
as the K20 (most notably when there was a lot of red in the shot, such as would
be found when photographing roses, or Ferraris, etc.).


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Re: PESO: Some stupid sunflower, or something . . .

2011-09-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thanks, John!

That sort of nettled at me, too.  But, it was another sunflower growing 
in the background and I was torn between minimizing an element that fit 
with the subject, or making a ham-fisted and ultimately futile attempt 
at improving it given my grossly underdeveloped editing skills.


I opted to make it a long-term project.  It'll be one more on the 
sizable pile of learner images.


But, I do agree with you.  It does detract and distract a bit.

-- Walt

On 9/17/2011 4:17 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 04:47:01PM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote:

On 11-09-10 7:24 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Hi all,

As you can see, I've adopted a minimalist image titling
convention.  It simplifies things.

I like that.

About the only thing that bothers me is the blurred yellow
patches at the bottom of the flower area.





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Re: PESO: Some stupid sunflower, or something . . .

2011-09-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 9/17/2011 4:21 PM, John Francis wrote:

On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 07:11:45PM -0500, Walt Gilbert wrote:

The only change I made was auto-leveling, which for some reason
brought out a lot of cyan, which I desaturated out.

It brought out a lot of cyan because auto-levels tries to create
an image that averages out to a uniform grey.  You've got a lot
of yellow in that shot, so it compensates by shifiting everything
away from yellow (i.e. towards cyan).

Unless I'm trying to fix a colour cast, I'll generally use auto
contrast rather than auto levels for just that reason.


Thanks for that tip!  I'll be sure to use it in the future. It didn't 
occur to me that the leveling might work the way you describe it, but it 
certainly makes sense.


I'm starting to get a little more comfortable with GIMP, finally, and 
with any luck I'll be able to use it in a manner somewhat approaching 
that for which it was intended -- before I die.


-- Walt

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PESO - Pot of Gold?

2011-09-17 Thread frank theriault
They look like trees to me.  Maybe the pot's hiding under them or something:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/pot-of-gold.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: D.F. From above

2011-09-17 Thread Ken Waller

Nice captures.

From the looks of it the smog seems as bad as it was back in the 80's. I was 
there for several weeks at a time and felt the smog was the worst part of 
the scene and by far worse than any I've experienced in the states.



Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: Tim Bray tb...@textuality.com


Subject: GESO: D.F. From above



Those who've been there know what DF stands for:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/201x/2011/09/17/Mexico-City-from-Above

(Hint: Mexico City) -T



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Re: Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread Ken Waller

You mean the U. S. has a constitution ?   sadly a VBG

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- Original Message - 
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com

Subject: Happy Constitution Day



One of the lesser known holidays here in the U.S.



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Re: Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread David Savage
I hear they're thinking of selling it to help pay the bills.

On 18 September 2011 06:56, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 You mean the U. S. has a constitution ?   sadly a VBG

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 - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
 Subject: Happy Constitution Day


 One of the lesser known holidays here in the U.S.


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Re: PESO - Rooftop Tree

2011-09-17 Thread Ken Waller

I like the dis-similarity of the tree on the roof.

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- Original Message - 
From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com


Subject: PESO - Rooftop Tree



I can see this building through my office window.  This tree has been
growing on a rooftop for the last few years.  The building isn't
occupied and doesn't seem to be very well maintained.  It used to be
one of the bigger jewelry stores in town.

http://georges.posterous.com/

GS

George Sinos

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Re: PESO - Rooftop Tree

2011-09-17 Thread Tim Bray
Nice picture, too. -T

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:50 AM, George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can see this building through my office window.  This tree has been
 growing on a rooftop for the last few years.  The building isn't
 occupied and doesn't seem to be very well maintained.  It used to be
 one of the bigger jewelry stores in town.

 http://georges.posterous.com/

 GS

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GESO - The Hummingbirds

2011-09-17 Thread Derby Chang


Haven't been doing much music shooting, street shooting is too 
addictive. But when you have a chance to revisit your youth, you grab 
the Gibson jangle with both hands.


http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_09/11_09_hummingbirds/index.htm

Those harmonies just melt the years away. The Hummingbirds were indie 
darlings, but never quite broke into the mainstream, so I didn't think 
there was much video made of them. But I vaguely remembered there was a 
great performance on Countdown (daggy but essential Aussie music show). 
Thank google for youtube and 80's hairspray


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi35p21eICM

On topic too. Quite like pairing the 43mm L with the CV 28mm

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Re: PESO - Pot of Gold?

2011-09-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 17, 2011, at 3:46 PM, frank theriault wrote:

 They look like trees to me.  Maybe the pot's hiding under them or something:
 
 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/pot-of-gold.html
 
 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

You really know how to show back up and make a guy feel insecure about his own 
photography. 
Yet another great photo.

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Re: PESO - Pot of Gold?

2011-09-17 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Thats lovely, Frank - it looks like a painting... I'm thinkin Constable?

The trees are gold :-)

ann

On 9/17/2011 18:46, frank theriault wrote:

They look like trees to me.  Maybe the pot's hiding under them or something:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/pot-of-gold.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank



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Re: PESO - Pot of Gold?

2011-09-17 Thread Jack Davis
 Powerful sky! Really nice exposure.

Jack
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Subject: PESO - Pot of Gold?

They look like trees to me.  Maybe the pot's hiding under them or something:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/pot-of-gold.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: GESO Tree frog

2011-09-17 Thread Mark C

Excellent work, Toine!


On 9/17/2011 9:49 AM, Toine wrote:

No idea if this gets to the list:

http://www.repiuk.nl/index.php/blog-mainmenu-97/197-boomkikkers

It's the european tree frog (Hyla arborea). A few years ago almost extinct.
K5, F100macro

Toine




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Re: Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread Mark C

On 9/17/2011 9:24 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

One of the lesser known holidays here in the U.S.

A fine and ancient holiday first observed in 2004. How come I didn't get 
the day off? I think I'll pitch a fit in the HR guy's office on Monday.




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Re: Muddlety and Fenway

2011-09-17 Thread Mark C
I enjoyed this and your other cat photos, but then I am a sucker for 
felines. Nice shots!


On 9/10/2011 8:05 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Muddlety on the right and Fenway on the left:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/kitties.jpg

We got them from local animal rescue group a week ago - they were
approximately 12 weeks old. After having been with us for a week
they're still quite timid and afraid of everything but getting bolder
by the day.





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Re: Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread Christine Nielsen
Would you believe... we had a recitation of the Bill of RIghts at the
dinner table this very evening??

It all started with one of the girls asking a question about pleading
the fifth... and then their dad  I trying to recall what each of the
first 10 amendments were all about... We managed to get the gist of
half of them before resorting to google for help.

Which was very educational of us, I think.

However, I think we may need to revisit the original question... And
figure out why does she need to know about her right to not
incriminate herself...?

:)
-c


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 One of the lesser known holidays here in the U.S.

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Re: PESO - Pot of Gold?

2011-09-17 Thread Christine Nielsen
That sky is amazing, the cool/warm contrast is very interesting...
I've never managed to be in the right place at the right time (with
the right camera) for a rainbow... good catch!

:)
-c

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM, frank theriault
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 They look like trees to me.  Maybe the pot's hiding under them or something:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/pot-of-gold.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

 cheers,
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Re: Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
Sounds like she has the making of a fine lawyer.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:11 PM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote:
 Would you believe... we had a recitation of the Bill of RIghts at the
 dinner table this very evening??

 It all started with one of the girls asking a question about pleading
 the fifth... and then their dad  I trying to recall what each of the
 first 10 amendments were all about... We managed to get the gist of
 half of them before resorting to google for help.

 Which was very educational of us, I think.

 However, I think we may need to revisit the original question... And
 figure out why does she need to know about her right to not
 incriminate herself...?

 :)
 -c


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 One of the lesser known holidays here in the U.S.

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Re: Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 9/17/2011 7:11 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

Would you believe... we had a recitation of the Bill of RIghts at the
dinner table this very evening??

It all started with one of the girls asking a question about pleading
the fifth

If she isn't too young, here's an excellent primer on the Fifth Amendment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzocBkrWpA

Or at least I think it's an excellent primer.  Though, admittedly, I'm 
kind of strange.


-- Walt


... and then their dad  I trying to recall what each of the
first 10 amendments were all about... We managed to get the gist of
half of them before resorting to google for help.

Which was very educational of us, I think.

However, I think we may need to revisit the original question... And
figure out why does she need to know about her right to not
incriminate herself...?

:)
-c


On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 9:24 AM, John Sessomsjsessoms...@nc.rr.com  wrote:

One of the lesser known holidays here in the U.S.

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Re: David Slater's macaque: A real IP lawyer speaks out

2011-09-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
Legalities aside, it's a great picture.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Remember the story about the monkey who took a self-portrait and David
 Slater, the photographer who tried to claim copyright on it? If not,
 here's T.O.P. on the subject:
 http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2011/07/monkey-business-monkeywrench.html
 and TechDirt:
 http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110712/01182015052/monkeys-dont-do-fair-use-news-agency-tells-techdirt-to-remove-photos.shtml

 I sent a query about this matter to Rich Stim, the IP lawyer who
 writes Nolo.com's intellectual property blog. TOP and other places
 around the web had so many non-lawyers spouting off about this case I
 thought it would be interesting to see what a real lawyer (whose books
 on IP law are widely respected) had to say.

 It's bad news for Slater.

 http://dearrichblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/hijacked-and-automatic-photography.html

 But it think it's generally good news for everyone that Mike J's
 speculation that photos taken by automatically-triggered mechanisms
 can't be registered turned out to be groundless.


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Re: GESO - The Hummingbirds

2011-09-17 Thread Larry Colen

On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Derby Chang wrote:

 
 Haven't been doing much music shooting, street shooting is too addictive. But 
 when you have a chance to revisit your youth, you grab the Gibson jangle with 
 both hands.
 
 http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/11/11_09/11_09_hummingbirds/index.htm

That set did a great job of catching the energy of a live performance.


 
 Those harmonies just melt the years away. The Hummingbirds were indie 
 darlings, but never quite broke into the mainstream,

Isn't that kind of the definition of indie?


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Re: PESO - Pot of Gold?

2011-09-17 Thread Fernando
Very nice. Colours, composition, and amazing sky. I like it a lot.

On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 6:46 PM, frank theriault
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 They look like trees to me.  Maybe the pot's hiding under them or something:

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2011/09/pot-of-gold.html

 Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

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Re: David Slater's macaque: A real IP lawyer speaks out

2011-09-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 17, 2011, at 19:34, Steven Desjardins wrote:

 Legalities aside, it's a great picture.
 

I was going to say much the same thing.  I love that image!

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Re: The Tao of the Compact

2011-09-17 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Sep 17, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Mark C wrote:

 Lately I've been thinking along these same lines myself.  I have the money 
 set aside for a K5 but keep hesitating because I'm not sure that the 
 incremental improvement over the K7 will be worth it. 

IMO, the K-5 is a huge improvement over the K-7. I'd rate it as the biggest 
jump in performance for any Pentax DSLR over the previous model. The big gains 
are in noise, high ISO performance and autofocus. It was a sea change for me. I 
couldn't characterize it as incremental.

Paul 
  I do a lot of travel these days and many of the images I've like in the last 
 year were taken with my Nikon Coolpix  P6000. That's a somewhat flawed 
 camera, burdened by a lot of poorly implemented 'features', a slow lens, and 
 really slow buffer write times - but it still manages to cough up some nice 
 images. So part of me thinks to upgrade to a better compact. But I'm not 
 seeing any compacts that seem to be worth upgrading to either
 
 MCC
 
 On 9/15/2011 7:55 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
  Our recent discussion of the Pentax Q got me thinking, which is
 always dangerous.  One big problem with list discussions is that so
 much of photography is personal.  On an email list like the PDML,
 folks are typing quickly and often don’t make clear when they know
 they are giving an opinion and when they think they are expressing a
 fact.  For example, I like small cameras because I am likely to grab
 one as I walk out the door.  That was one of the attractive features
 of Pentax and it’s a very attractive feature of the current generation
 of mu43 cameras like the E-P2.  I am convinced the image quality of
 the smaller four thirds sensors is not as good as APS-C.  Of course, I
 have a K7 and the difference is less obvious that it would be with a
 K5.  I could have gotten a K5 if I had sold the K7 and not bought my
 more recent mu43 purchases.  I didn’t and I still wouldn’t.
 
 I am an amateur and my photography is there to let me play artist
 and contribute to the family scrapbook.  The latter is always good
 enough with any of these cameras.  My wife uses an Optio I-10 and
 (annoyingly) seems to do as well as me.  Noise just doesn’t bother me
 very much so my high iso performance is more than adequate.  The
 biggest challenge for me is the limited dynamic range and I enjoy that
 challenge.  When I am taking pictures to please myself, I don’t mind
 the limitations of the camera.  Sure, I can delight in a new lens but
 usually it’s a prime.  My SOP is to go off with one prime and work
 around it.  I’ve recently realized that I’m a better adapter than a
 chooser.  I actually dislike having to pick from too many choices.  I
 find it much more satisfying to take a small camera and one prime and
 try to make it work.  I completely understand that a pro can’t do this
 and when I’m asked to do weddings I show up with the K7, the flash and
 the FA135, the DA 18-55, etc.  Lately however, that stuff just sits in
 the bag.  I honestly think that if I had the money I would get a Q and
 a few lenses rather than a K5.   The Q system would be inferior for
 every technical reason and it would get a lot more use.
 Sorry for the manifesto but better here than going off topic in class.  ;-)
 
 
 
 
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Re: K-5 battery problem tonight

2011-09-17 Thread Charles Robinson
On Sep 17, 2011, at 13:40, Larry Colen wrote:

 
 On Sep 17, 2011, at 5:06 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
 My K-5 charger has a green light that turns on when the battery is charging. 
 When it's fully charged, the light switches off. 
 
 That's the case with my Pentax charger. I also have a third party charger 
 that I carry in my camera gear for just such emergencies, which will also run 
 off of a cigarette lighter socket in the car.  With three batteries, I've 
 hardly ever needed it, unless I was on a road trip for several days.  It's 
 light is red on charging and green on charged, and I was used to the Pentax 
 charger that has a green light when charging and no light when charged
 

Time to whip out a label maker and put a little reminder on the face of each of 
the chargers as to what the expected behavior of the lights is.

But I label everything.  Maybe I overdo it.

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Re: Happy Constitution Day

2011-09-17 Thread Christine Nielsen
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Walt Gilbert ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 If she isn't too young, here's an excellent primer on the Fifth Amendment
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CzocBkrWpA


Haha... this is the Constitution primer I remember from my youth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30OyU4O80i4

:)
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PESO: Live to Ride

2011-09-17 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=mainwebtag=djm1963entry=135

Comments are Encouraged

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Clever ways of storing and carrying light stands, tripods etc?

2011-09-17 Thread Larry Colen
I'm cleaning up after photographing a friend's party last night. As often 
happens, when it came time to leave, things got put away in a manner much 
closer to expediency than organization.  This means that I have to pretty much 
unpack everything, and put it away where it belongs.

The good news is that I have put together a fairly decent sized collection of 
lighting stands, tripods etc. Unfortunately, I don't really have a good way of 
storing and transporting them.  I've been carrying the lighting stand, 
umbrellas etc. in a (very) large duffel, but that's not very convenient when 
I'm at home.  I'm curious whether anybody has come up with some sort of a 
brilliantly handy (and cheap) way of storing and carrying these things.  

And for that matter, any other sort of camera gear beyond bodies and lenses.

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