Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Anthony Farr
Will the mall let you view any security camera footage?  Perhaps some
shops nearby have cameras that overlook the place you left your
camera.

There's been two incidents in Australia recently that were solved by
unrelated security cameras that recorded the events.  An assault and
murder was solved in Melbourne because a shops internal camera
recorded the victim being pestered by her attacker shortly before her
disappearance.  A dognapping in Sydney was solved and the dog
recovered because a camera further along the street recorded a small
boy carrying the dog away, the footage and a screenshot were put up on
Facebook, and the dognapper was recognized.

I know your camera is small change by comparison, but the principle is the same.

regards, Anthony



On 24 October 2012 14:20, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

 It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my 
 camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a 
 shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, 
 telling me I got a call to pick up.

 As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit 
 me; no camera around my neck.

 I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two 
 hours after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with 
 security and all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera 
 to security - mall policy); nothing turned in.

 Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, 
 continued to monitor ads and security.

 Nothing.

 Gone.

 Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing 
 illegal, but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally 
 right. The ~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security.

 They might as well have stolen it from me.

 I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn 
 it or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value.

 Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 
 for a few beers.

 Oh well.

 About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
 was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

 And I still have my venerable *IstD.

 It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

 cheers,
 frank


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RE: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
 knarftheria...@gmail.com
 
[...]

 Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing
 illegal, but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was
 morally right. The ~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to
 security.
 
 They might as well have stolen it from me.
 
[...]

That's damn bad luck, Frank. I hope it turns up.

I'm not sure about the legality of it, but I consider that to be theft.
Whoever picked it up knew that it did not belong to them. If you take
something that doesn't belong to you, that's stealing isn't it?

Do you have insurance that will cover it?

B


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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Ann Sanfedele

Frank - yikes
I'm just seeing this now - that's awful...
Would be surprised if the photos showed up anywhere..
bet the camera has been sold - The serial number etc
turned in somewhere useful?

Possible it got turned in somewhere else?

ann

On 10/24/2012 01:29, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Actually the proper name of the place is the Yonge-Eglinton Centre.


 The camera was left on the bench outside the Rexall

 Pharmacy at about 4pm October 12, and the images on the card were what 
one might expect:


Street stuff, including bikes and messengers and a bunch of portraits of 
a tabby cat.


 The tabby portraits might not be quite as expected as the former two 
items.


;-)

Thanks!

cheers,
frank



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Subject: Re: Lost, K10D

On 10/24/12 1:11 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Yonge-Eglinton Mall here in Toronto.

cheers,
frank


okay, I'll put a word out on G+. Can you give me an idea what kinds of
shots were on there? Messengers?



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Re: I Wanna Be a Cameraman

2012-10-24 Thread Anthony Farr
Made me smile :-)

regards, Anthony



On 24 October 2012 12:29, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 B

 A bit of fun - even with the odd Pentax sighting

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKBetMjwLk8feature=g-user-u


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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Rick Womer
Groan!!

There are on-line utilities that will let you know if a photo is posted with 
your camera's serial number in the exif.  I think they've been mentioned here 
in the last couple of months.

Rick

 
http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: PDML@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 11:20 PM
Subject: Lost, K10D

Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my 
camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a 
shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, telling 
me I got a call to pick up.

As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit 
me; no camera around my neck.

I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two hours 
after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with security and 
all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera to security - 
mall policy); nothing turned in.

Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, 
continued to monitor ads and security.

Nothing.

Gone.

Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing illegal, 
but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally right. The 
~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security.

They might as well have stolen it from me.

I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn it 
or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value.

Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 
for a few beers.

Oh well. 

About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

And I still have my venerable *IstD.

It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Jack Davis
Damn it!! Sorry to read this, Frank. Cameras truly seem to become friends and 
companions in a thoroughly pleasing adventure.
Not the same thing, but I walked away from a decent tripod which I left on a 
park picnic table near a local lake. I'd driven maybe half a dozen blocks when 
it hit me. Did a quick U-turn, but no tripod when I got back to where it had 
been left. Living in a small town, I went to the local police who took a report 
and pronounced it stolen. After a few days I checked some local Pawn Shops, 
but nothing. 
 
Jack



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From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: PDML@pdml.net
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:20 PM
Subject: Lost, K10D

Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my 
camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a 
shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, telling 
me I got a call to pick up.

As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit 
me; no camera around my neck.

I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two hours 
after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with security and 
all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera to security - 
mall policy); nothing turned in.

Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, 
continued to monitor ads and security.

Nothing.

Gone.

Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing illegal, 
but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally right. The 
~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security.

They might as well have stolen it from me.

I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn it 
or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value.

Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 
for a few beers.

Oh well. 

About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

And I still have my venerable *IstD.

It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

cheers,
frank

If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus
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Re: I Wanna Be a Cameraman

2012-10-24 Thread Toine
That's my dream, quit my nine to five and...

On 24 October 2012 03:29, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 t of fun - even with the odd Pentax sighting

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I feel your loss Frank.  It's disappointing that people follow their 
worst nature sad to say. I'm always amazed when someone does the right 
thing.


On 10/23/2012 11:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my 
camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a 
shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, telling 
me I got a call to pick up.

As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit 
me; no camera around my neck.

I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two hours 
after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with security and 
all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera to security - 
mall policy); nothing turned in.

Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, 
continued to monitor ads and security.

Nothing.

Gone.

Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing illegal, 
but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally right. The 
~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security.

They might as well have stolen it from me.

I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn it 
or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value.

Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 
for a few beers.

Oh well.

About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

And I still have my venerable *IstD.

It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

cheers,
frank

If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus



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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
I'm a chemist; use glue.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 They say that flowers and duct tape fix everything.
 :-)

 Tue Oct 23 16:17:13 EDT 2012
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Re: Comparing in-body and lens-based image stabilisation

2012-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Interesting article that uses a K-5 and a Sigma 50-500 mm HSM lens.  The
 article doesn't say what focal length was used in the tests but presumably
 it was the long end.

 http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-camera/image-stabilisers-optical-mechanical-a1608.html

I'll read the article a little later, but my personal experience with
both systems says:

- OIS is better for video and working with a DSLR using long lenses
because it stabilizes the image you see in the viewfinder. It's
downside is that, of course, you only get IS with lenses so equipped.

- IBIS is convenient as all lenses can benefit from it.

- Regards efficiency of performance, I haven't seen much in practical
terms that shows a distinct superiority to either system in still
camera use.

BTW, none of my present cameras includes image stabilization of either
type. I haven't seen any evidence this is proving a blocker to my
photography. ;-)
-- 
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Re: Re: The last Bike Ride

2012-10-24 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks for looking Dave. Iowa has a wonderful selection of bike trails 
with lots of it thru parkland like this.



pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:

Message: 10 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:24:26 +1300 From: David Mann
dmann...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Subject: Re: The last Bike Ride Message-ID:
91115c42-8aef-4ec4-9eee-416ad76e3...@gmail.com Content-Type:
text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:26 AM, Don Guthrie
shark50...@gmail.com wrote:

Nothing sweeter than the last warm days of fall. This is not a self portrait.

Shot with the new 50mm at f2. Thought the autofocus did a nice job on object 
moving toward me.

http://donspix.posterous.com/one-last-bike-ride-in-the-fall-color-before-t#!/

Looks like a very nice place for a ride.  Not that there are many bad places to 
ride...

Dave




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Re:GESO: 2012 TN State Pow Wow

2012-10-24 Thread Don Guthrie
Must have missed your post 1st time around. Thanks to Dan for calling it 
up again.

Fine job of event photography lots of colorful portraits.



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On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:

We went Saturday to the TN State Pow Wow and had a nice time watching the
dancing, listening to the music, talking with many different folks and even
talked to a wolf/Husky mixed dog (though I forgot her name).

This will take you to the gallery so if you are not interested in looking
through a gallery just ignore.
http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p483251840

Later,
Jeffery Johnson

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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling

Sounds like something Larry would say...

On 10/24/2012 12:15 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:


They say that flowers and duct tape fix everything.
:-)

Tue Oct 23 16:17:13 EDT 2012
Mark Roberts wrote:


My solution is always duct tape and safety wire.






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RE: The last Bike Ride

2012-10-24 Thread Don Guthrie
Thanks Frank, It was a one off no time to take more so I got a bit 
lucky. I will take a look at tighter crop.


ps Sorry about your camera.



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 02:30:37 + (UTC)
From:knarftheria...@gmail.com  knarftheria...@gmail.com
To: \Pentax-Discuss Mail List\pdml@pdml.net
Subject: RE: The last Bike Ride
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I really like this (and not just because of the bike). The colours are lovely, 
as is the light. Composition and timing is wonderful.

I might crop just a bit off the left. There's a mass of green there not really 
doing much imho. But that's just me, and it's lovely as is.

Cheers,
frank

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From: Don Guthrieshark50...@gmail.com
Sent: October 23, 2012 10/23/12
To:pdml@pdml.net
Subject: The last Bike Ride

Nothing sweeter than the last warm days of fall. This is not a self
portrait.

Shot with the new 50mm at f2. Thought the autofocus did a nice job on
object moving toward me.

http://donspix.posterous.com/one-last-bike-ride-in-the-fall-color-before-t#!/

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Walt

Oh, dammit, Frank! What a kick in the gut. :(

I would be absolutely beside myself right now if I were in your 
position. I do hope that by some miracle you somehow manage to get it 
back safe and sound.


I like to think if I were the person who discovered it, I would have 
turned it in simply because I'm a photographer and I know how much my 
cameras mean to me.


Best of luck to you, Frank. If you don't get it back, I at least hope 
you'll be able to replace it relatively soon.


-- Walt

On 10/23/2012 10:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my 
camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a 
shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, telling 
me I got a call to pick up.

As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit 
me; no camera around my neck.

I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two hours 
after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with security and 
all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera to security - 
mall policy); nothing turned in.

Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, 
continued to monitor ads and security.

Nothing.

Gone.

Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing illegal, 
but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally right. The 
~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security.

They might as well have stolen it from me.

I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn it 
or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value.

Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 
for a few beers.

Oh well.

About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

And I still have my venerable *IstD.

It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Comparing in-body and lens-based image stabilisation

2012-10-24 Thread AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne
A guy called Falk Lumo has concluded that Pentax' system is only efficient up 
to about 200mm focal length. Iirc, he did his testing in the K20-D era.

Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Brian Walters
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Interesting article that uses a K-5 and a Sigma 50-500 mm HSM lens. 
The
 article doesn't say what focal length was used in the tests but
presumably
 it was the long end.


http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-camera/image-stabilisers-optical-mechanical-a1608.html

I'll read the article a little later, but my personal experience with
both systems says:

- OIS is better for video and working with a DSLR using long lenses
because it stabilizes the image you see in the viewfinder. It's
downside is that, of course, you only get IS with lenses so equipped.

- IBIS is convenient as all lenses can benefit from it.

- Regards efficiency of performance, I haven't seen much in practical
terms that shows a distinct superiority to either system in still
camera use.

BTW, none of my present cameras includes image stabilization of either
type. I haven't seen any evidence this is proving a blocker to my
photography. ;-)

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What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Jos from Holland
I always wondered how to adjust for image stabilization in macro. I use 
SMC-M 100mm macro and SMC-M 50mm on my K5d quite often with a macro 
ring. I have to adjust the focal distance of the lens manually. But what 
really counts for image stabilization is the angle of view, I guess. So 
should I use a correction factor and adjust maybe 300mm for the 100mm 
lens??? Similar things for my Sigma 17-70mm in macro mode.  Any 
thoughts?? Greetings, Jos


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Re: GESO: 2012 TN State Pow Wow

2012-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Jeffery,
Those are marvelous photos and a great looking event.
Where is it help.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Jeffery Johnson
jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 We went Saturday to the TN State Pow Wow and had a nice time watching the
 dancing, listening to the music, talking with many different folks and even
 talked to a wolf/Husky mixed dog (though I forgot her name).

 This will take you to the gallery so if you are not interested in looking
 through a gallery just ignore.
 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p483251840

 Later,
 Jeffery Johnson

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Re: Comparing in-body and lens-based image stabilisation

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Well, interesting.  I wonder if he knows that you can compare the 
difference between Optical and In camera stabilization by mounting a  
4:3 Panasonic stabilized lens, (or m4:3 if you prefer to use them), on 
an Olympus 4:3 body?  Hum, I guess not.


I'm always amazed by experts who don't seem to know very much, how did 
they get to be experts is there a test?


He does make pretty charts, maybe that's his area of expertise. This 
isn't earth shattering, in fact his results mirror the general perceived 
wisdom.


Olympus by the way is supposed to have a much much improved in body 
stabilization in the OM-D.  Maybe someone will test it vs a Panasonic 
stabilized lens.


I expect that the K-3, or whatever the heck it will be called, will have 
much improved in body stabilization, because they'll have



On 10/23/2012 5:15 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
Interesting article that uses a K-5 and a Sigma 50-500 mm HSM lens.  
The article doesn't say what focal length was used in the tests but 
presumably it was the long end.


http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-camera/image-stabilisers-optical-mechanical-a1608.html 








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GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread Theodore Beilby
Spent all day Sunday jeeping around the back roads in the Buffalo River 
National 
Forest being overwhelmed by the beauty of this years fall colors. I have posted 
a set on Flikr, for anyone to look and possibly comment on. Had a hard time 
editing this set (52 shots posted.)  

Thanks for your time

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RE: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread Theodore Beilby
Of course, I forgot the URL.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/8119440844/in/set-72157631843888271/lightbox/


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Re: Comparing in-body and lens-based image stabilisation

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
I've kind of disregarded those findings.  Maybe I'm fooling myself but I 
seem to get a better hit rate with the A*300 on the K20D than I ever got 
with it on any previous body film or digital. Ok for the record before 
digital I used the M*300 much more than the A*300, but they are for all 
intents and purposes identical on an LX.


On 10/24/2012 12:06 PM, AlunFoto - Jostein Øksne wrote:

A guy called Falk Lumo has concluded that Pentax' system is only efficient up 
to about 200mm focal length. Iirc, he did his testing in the K20-D era.

Godfrey DiGiorgi gdigio...@gmail.com wrote:


On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Brian Walters
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Interesting article that uses a K-5 and a Sigma 50-500 mm HSM lens.

The

article doesn't say what focal length was used in the tests but

presumably

it was the long end.



http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-camera/image-stabilisers-optical-mechanical-a1608.html

I'll read the article a little later, but my personal experience with
both systems says:

- OIS is better for video and working with a DSLR using long lenses
because it stabilizes the image you see in the viewfinder. It's
downside is that, of course, you only get IS with lenses so equipped.

- IBIS is convenient as all lenses can benefit from it.

- Regards efficiency of performance, I haven't seen much in practical
terms that shows a distinct superiority to either system in still
camera use.

BTW, none of my present cameras includes image stabilization of either
type. I haven't seen any evidence this is proving a blocker to my
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Re: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ted,
Great album.  I hate you!
You used the water for excellent reflections,
and then you had bluffs too!  Great stuff.
Such a beautiful place...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

Spent all day Sunday jeeping around the back roads in the Buffalo River National
Forest being overwhelmed by the beauty of this years fall colors. I have posted
a set on Flikr, for anyone to look and possibly comment on. Had a hard time
editing this set (52 shots posted.)

 Of course, I forgot the URL.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/8119440844/in/set-72157631843888271/lightbox/


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Re: Comparing in-body and lens-based image stabilisation

2012-10-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
I thought of that, having just recently used the OIS Lumix 45-200 on
my IBIS E-PM1.  (You can get the E-PM1 body now for under $200)  As
per urban legend, I turned off the IBIS and left the OIS on.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:48 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well, interesting.  I wonder if he knows that you can compare the difference
 between Optical and In camera stabilization by mounting a  4:3 Panasonic
 stabilized lens, (or m4:3 if you prefer to use them), on an Olympus 4:3
 body?  Hum, I guess not.

 I'm always amazed by experts who don't seem to know very much, how did they
 get to be experts is there a test?

 He does make pretty charts, maybe that's his area of expertise. This isn't
 earth shattering, in fact his results mirror the general perceived wisdom.

 Olympus by the way is supposed to have a much much improved in body
 stabilization in the OM-D.  Maybe someone will test it vs a Panasonic
 stabilized lens.

 I expect that the K-3, or whatever the heck it will be called, will have
 much improved in body stabilization, because they'll have



 On 10/23/2012 5:15 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Interesting article that uses a K-5 and a Sigma 50-500 mm HSM lens.  The
 article doesn't say what focal length was used in the tests but presumably
 it was the long end.


 http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-camera/image-stabilisers-optical-mechanical-a1608.html





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RE: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
nice shots, especially liked 9714.

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Of course, I forgot the URL.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/8119440844/in/set-72157631843888271/
lightbox/


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Re: GESO: 2012 TN State Pow Wow

2012-10-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Great set.  Sharp and colorful.  I too missed this the first time.

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 Jeffery,
 Those are marvelous photos and a great looking event.
 Where is it help.
 Regards,  Bob S.

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 jefferytjohn...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 We went Saturday to the TN State Pow Wow and had a nice time watching the
 dancing, listening to the music, talking with many different folks and even
 talked to a wolf/Husky mixed dog (though I forgot her name).

 This will take you to the gallery so if you are not interested in looking
 through a gallery just ignore.
 http://www.photocapturesbyjeffery.com/p483251840

 Later,
 Jeffery Johnson

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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:04:29AM +1100, Peter McIntosh wrote:
 
 FWIW, My father (god bless him) used to describe a hammer as an
 American screwdriver... :-)
 
 Ciao,
 
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Re: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread Steven Desjardins
Those are very nice.  I bet it was truly lovely to see it live.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:11 PM, J.C. O'Connell hifis...@gate.net wrote:
 nice shots, especially liked 9714.

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 Of course, I forgot the URL.

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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread lrc
British Leyland fine adjustment tool BFH-042.

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On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:04:29AM +1100, Peter McIntosh wrote:
 
 FWIW, My father (god bless him) used to describe a hammer as an
 American screwdriver... :-)
 
 Ciao,
 
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skills...

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.


 About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
 was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

 And I still have my venerable *IstD.

 It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

 cheers,
 frank

Bad luck for sure Frank.

I have my K10-d just sitting around doing nothing.

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Yuck. Sorry to hear it.

Nearly lost the bag holding the M9 and three lenses the same way back
in June. I got that sinking feeling about ten minutes away from the
snack shop where I'd been having a cup of coffee and answering a
telephone call ... ran back and it was still there, thank goodness.

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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I don't know of any image stabilization system that has sufficient
range to work properly for macrophotography. In practical terms, it
can work ok for low magnifications (1:4 and lower) but in the 1:1 to
1:3 range it simply can't do enough to make a difference.

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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Toine
If I remember correctly the manual claims SR should be switched off for macro.

Toine

On 24 October 2012 18:32, Jos from Holland jos_from_holl...@onsnet.nu wrote:
 I always wondered how to adjust for image stabilization in macro. I use
 SMC-M 100mm macro and SMC-M 50mm on my K5d quite often with a macro ring. I
 have to adjust the focal distance of the lens manually. But what really
 counts for image stabilization is the angle of view, I guess. So should I
 use a correction factor and adjust maybe 300mm for the 100mm lens??? Similar
 things for my Sigma 17-70mm in macro mode.  Any thoughts?? Greetings, Jos

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Speaking of sticky controls

2012-10-24 Thread John Sessoms
I noticed the power/DOF preview switch on the D-BG2 for my K20D is kind 
of sticky; hard to turn on  when I use the DOF preview it doesn't 
spring back when I let it go.


I mostly leave it in the OFF position because I carry the camera on one 
of those sling straps  it tends to trigger the shutter when it gets 
bumped. But I would like for it to work when I *do* use it.


I'm open to practical suggestions how to safely clean and lubricate it.

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Doug Brewer

On 10/24/12 2:15 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Yuck. Sorry to hear it.

Nearly lost the bag holding the M9 and three lenses the same way back
in June. I got that sinking feeling about ten minutes away from the
snack shop where I'd been having a cup of coffee and answering a
telephone call ... ran back and it was still there, thank goodness.



Yeah, I left my black lowepro bag stuffed full of gear in a darkened 
room corner of a motel in Greeneville, SC once, not realizing it until I 
arrived home three hours later that it didn't make the trip with me.


Fortunately, I was a regular there and they recognized the bag as mine, 
so they held on to it until I could get back down there a couple days 
later. I tell you, though, it was a rough realization when it wasn't in 
the Jeep.


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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Mark Roberts
Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:

Yeah, I left my black lowepro bag stuffed full of gear in a darkened 
room corner of a motel in Greeneville, SC once, not realizing it until I 
arrived home three hours later that it didn't make the trip with me.

Fortunately, I was a regular there and they recognized the bag as mine, 
so they held on to it until I could get back down there a couple days 
later. I tell you, though, it was a rough realization when it wasn't in 
the Jeep.

I once left my 31/1.8 Ltd at a site in a park where I was doing a dawn
shoot for a (paying!) client. I realized what I'd done about an hour
later. Since it was a dawn shoot in the middle of a large park and it
was still before 8:00 a.m. when I returned, the lens was still there
sitting on a rock in the middle of a stream.

Once in Winston-Salem before GFM my car was broken into with ALL my
gear in the back -- including 80-200/2.8, 300/2.8, medium format kit,
etc... The thief took only a case of music CDs from the front seat (I
think the alarm may have induced him to grab something small as fast
as possible without investigating the vehicle's contents further).

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Doug Brewer

On 10/24/12 2:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Doug Brewerd...@alphoto.com  wrote:


Yeah, I left my black lowepro bag stuffed full of gear in a darkened
room corner of a motel in Greeneville, SC once, not realizing it until I
arrived home three hours later that it didn't make the trip with me.

Fortunately, I was a regular there and they recognized the bag as mine,
so they held on to it until I could get back down there a couple days
later. I tell you, though, it was a rough realization when it wasn't in
the Jeep.


I once left my 31/1.8 Ltd at a site in a park where I was doing a dawn
shoot for a (paying!) client. I realized what I'd done about an hour
later. Since it was a dawn shoot in the middle of a large park and it
was still before 8:00 a.m. when I returned, the lens was still there
sitting on a rock in the middle of a stream.

Once in Winston-Salem before GFM my car was broken into with ALL my
gear in the back -- including 80-200/2.8, 300/2.8, medium format kit,
etc... The thief took only a case of music CDs from the front seat (I
think the alarm may have induced him to grab something small as fast
as possible without investigating the vehicle's contents further).



of course, there was the time at another motel in Greeneville, SC, when 
my Blazer was broken into and a few thousand dollars worth of gear was 
taken. Subsequent conversations with my insurance company were somewhat 
surreal, because I was in town for Uncle Olan, and they could get their 
collective head around two separate sets of gear, Uncle Olan's in the 
studio and mine in the truck.


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Pixel-peek (you know you want to) K-5 vs K-5iis

2012-10-24 Thread Darren Addy
Don't know if you've seen this already or not, but here is a
comparison of a Japanese Yen note photographed with the same lens (FA
31mm f1.8 AL Limited) on a K-5 and then with a K-5iis

K-5
http://pentax.briefing-paper.com/1121
Posted in May

K-5iis
http://pentax.briefing-paper.com/1864
Posted today

If you are like me, the first thing that will hit you is the color
difference. At first I assumed that they were taken side-by-side on
the same day, but the fact that they were taken 5 months apart makes
me wonder about the light conditions (color) that each was taken
under. The color of the K-5 is much more pleasing, to my eye.

The K-5iis image is clearly sharper (read the text that wraps around
the starburst in the upper right) but one might argue the K-5 is
sharp enough. The bottom photo on each page is with extra sharpness
(in camera). I put the images side by side in a single photoshop image
so I could do some comparing. The extra sharpness K-5 image beats the
zero sharpness K-5iis (to my eye). The commentator on the page (Google
Chrome translation) says the same thing in reverse: With a sense of
resolution (sharpness 0) normal state, there seems to be almost the
same degree of proficiency and extra sharpness +1 in K-5.

I leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide if that makes it
worth the price of an upgrade from your K-5. I believe that most
people will be putting more emphasis on its AF capabilities, as
compared to the K-5, before deciding. But I think I'm going to remain
happy with my K-5 for a long time to come.

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Re: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Terrific, Ted. 9715 in particular for me.


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Spent all day Sunday jeeping around the back roads in the Buffalo River 
 National
 Forest being overwhelmed by the beauty of this years fall colors. I have 
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 Thanks for your time

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GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
Now located on the Key Peninsula (locals = The Key) in Washington State, 
instead of 3 miles to the dog park when in Everett, it is now 30 miles to a 
leash free park, in Port Orchard. As such I only take the dogs for their 
exercise twice a week. Limits my exposure to the rest of the world. If I were 
to stop the car and set up each shot I'd like to capture in this new territory 
for me, I'd never make it to market or the post office.

I thought I'd share a few that were taken at the dog park, or on the way home, 
a week ago. My first use of Flickr. Been a member for two years. After losing 
my gallery at Apple when they humidified and became an iCloud, I have just 
made the time to explore the interface and the results. If anyone has any 
advice for me for or against, or suggestions of the best site for my casual , 
not trying to make a living with this, too complicated to do the searching 
needed to see if anyone copied for commercial use, too lazy to put a watermark 
in them photographs, chime in.

http://tinyurl.com/bssq32j

Comments up or down will be appreciated.


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Re: Speaking of sticky controls

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling

Radio Shack Tuner Cleaner works wonders at getting the gunk out.

On 10/24/2012 2:31 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
I noticed the power/DOF preview switch on the D-BG2 for my K20D is 
kind of sticky; hard to turn on  when I use the DOF preview it 
doesn't spring back when I let it go.


I mostly leave it in the OFF position because I carry the camera on 
one of those sling straps  it tends to trigger the shutter when it 
gets bumped. But I would like for it to work when I *do* use it.


I'm open to practical suggestions how to safely clean and lubricate it.




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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling

You mean percussion adjustment tool...

On 10/24/2012 1:41 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

British Leyland fine adjustment tool BFH-042.

John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:04:29AM +1100, Peter McIntosh wrote:

FWIW, My father (god bless him) used to describe a hammer as an
American screwdriver... :-)

Ciao,

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skills...

The comparable UK expression I grew up with is Birmingham screwdriver



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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Nice set Joe, the sunset photos make me think of the Smokeys.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Now located on the Key Peninsula (locals = The Key) in Washington State, 
 instead of 3 miles to the dog park when in Everett, it is now 30 miles to a 
 leash free park, in Port Orchard. As such I only take the dogs for their 
 exercise twice a week. Limits my exposure to the rest of the world. If I were 
 to stop the car and set up each shot I'd like to capture in this new 
 territory for me, I'd never make it to market or the post office.

 I thought I'd share a few that were taken at the dog park, or on the way 
 home, a week ago. My first use of Flickr. Been a member for two years. After 
 losing my gallery at Apple when they humidified and became an iCloud, I 
 have just made the time to explore the interface and the results. If anyone 
 has any advice for me for or against, or suggestions of the best site for 
 my casual , not trying to make a living with this, too complicated to do the 
 searching needed to see if anyone copied for commercial use, too lazy to put 
 a watermark in them photographs, chime in.

 http://tinyurl.com/bssq32j

 Comments up or down will be appreciated.


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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer...

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:23 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 You mean percussion adjustment tool...


 On 10/24/2012 1:41 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

 British Leyland fine adjustment tool BFH-042.

 John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:04:29AM +1100, Peter McIntosh wrote:

 FWIW, My father (god bless him) used to describe a hammer as an
 American screwdriver... :-)

 Ciao,

 Pete Mac in Melbourne - back to practicing my (poor) manual focus

 skills...

 The comparable UK expression I grew up with is Birmingham screwdriver



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OT: Craigslist Crack Smokers

2012-10-24 Thread Charles Robinson
A ZX-50 with a 35-80 and a Tamron zoom lens for HOW MUCH?!?!

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/pho/3360632357.html

Man.. it boggles the mind.

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Re: OT: Craigslist Crack Smokers

2012-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ho, ho, ho...

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Charles Robinson charl...@visi.com wrote:
 A ZX-50 with a 35-80 and a Tamron zoom lens for HOW MUCH?!?!

 http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/pho/3360632357.html

 Man.. it boggles the mind.

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RE: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread Don Guthrie

Lovely area and your pictures more than do it justice.



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Subject: RE: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

Of course, I forgot the URL.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/8119440844/in/set-72157631843888271/
lightbox/


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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling

If it breaks it needed to be replaced anyway.

On 10/24/2012 4:28 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer...

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:23 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:

You mean percussion adjustment tool...


On 10/24/2012 1:41 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

British Leyland fine adjustment tool BFH-042.

John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:04:29AM +1100, Peter McIntosh wrote:

FWIW, My father (god bless him) used to describe a hammer as an
American screwdriver... :-)

Ciao,

Pete Mac in Melbourne - back to practicing my (poor) manual focus

skills...

The comparable UK expression I grew up with is Birmingham screwdriver



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Re: OT: Craigslist Crack Smokers

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling

Based on that there's gold in my equipment locker.

On 10/24/2012 4:30 PM, Charles Robinson wrote:

A ZX-50 with a 35-80 and a Tamron zoom lens for HOW MUCH?!?!

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/pho/3360632357.html

Man.. it boggles the mind.

  -Charles

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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Don Guthrie

Sunset in the forest is my favorite. Nice views.



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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:15:55 -0700
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Subject: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington
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Now located on the Key Peninsula (locals = The Key) in Washington State, 
instead of 3 miles to the dog park when in Everett, it is now 30 miles to a 
leash free park, in Port Orchard. As such I only take the dogs for their 
exercise twice a week. Limits my exposure to the rest of the world. If I were 
to stop the car and set up each shot I'd like to capture in this new territory 
for me, I'd never make it to market or the post office.

I thought I'd share a few that were taken at the dog park, or on the way home, a week ago. My first 
use of Flickr. Been a member for two years. After losing my gallery at Apple when they 
humidified and became an iCloud, I have just made the time to explore the interface and the 
results. If anyone has any advice for me for or against, or suggestions of the best 
site for my casual , not trying to make a living with this, too complicated to do the searching 
needed to see if anyone copied for commercial use, too lazy to put a watermark in them photographs, 
chime in.

http://tinyurl.com/bssq32j

Comments up or down will be appreciated.


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Re: OT: Craigslist Crack Smokers

2012-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
He just forgot the decimal point folks. A common typo. Don't be harsh!   :-)

On Oct 24, 2012, at 13:30 , Charles Robinson wrote:

 A ZX-50 with a 35-80 and a Tamron zoom lens for HOW MUCH?!?!
 
 http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/pho/3360632357.html
 
 Man.. it boggles the mind.
 
 -Charles


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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-10-24 16:28, Bob Sullivan wrote:

If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer...


If it doesn't fit, force it.  If it breaks, it needed replacing, anyway.

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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread Larry Colen

On Oct 24, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On 2012-10-24 16:28, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer...
 
 If it doesn't fit, force it.  If it breaks, it needed replacing, anyway.

Doug doesn't need a torque wrench, he just tightens it until it strips, then 
backs it off a quarter turn.
 

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
As long as we're sharing uplifting stories, I left my *ist-Ds w the M85 
FA43 limited and A24mm in a bar in Newport RI a few years ago.  Realized 
what I'd done about an hour later after crossing the Newport Bridge 
returning to the mainland.  Called them immediately.  The bartender told 
me he'd found it and would hold it for me.  I was able to pick it up the 
next day, with nothing missing.  Nice people.


On the other hand I've been in bars where I've watched stolen goods be 
exchanged, being unarmed made me feel naked.


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Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:


Yeah, I left my black lowepro bag stuffed full of gear in a darkened
room corner of a motel in Greeneville, SC once, not realizing it until I
arrived home three hours later that it didn't make the trip with me.

Fortunately, I was a regular there and they recognized the bag as mine,
so they held on to it until I could get back down there a couple days
later. I tell you, though, it was a rough realization when it wasn't in
the Jeep.

I once left my 31/1.8 Ltd at a site in a park where I was doing a dawn
shoot for a (paying!) client. I realized what I'd done about an hour
later. Since it was a dawn shoot in the middle of a large park and it
was still before 8:00 a.m. when I returned, the lens was still there
sitting on a rock in the middle of a stream.

Once in Winston-Salem before GFM my car was broken into with ALL my
gear in the back -- including 80-200/2.8, 300/2.8, medium format kit,
etc... The thief took only a case of music CDs from the front seat (I
think the alarm may have induced him to grab something small as fast
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Re: 2 Peso - country road and city street

2012-10-24 Thread Derby Chang



A, as they say on reddit

On 24/10/2012 12:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2012-and-all-that/21847075_D88Ngw/1/2170249166_tLFFSHJ/Large 




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Re: Pixel-peek (you know you want to) K-5 vs K-5iis

2012-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
No pixel peeping there. The images are only 718 pixels on each side. Hard to 
determine anything on the basis of such mall images, although I did compare the 
two f4 images, and while the color varies greatly (no color space assigned), 
one does appear to be somewhat sharper than the other.
Pul
On Oct 24, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Don't know if you've seen this already or not, but here is a
 comparison of a Japanese Yen note photographed with the same lens (FA
 31mm f1.8 AL Limited) on a K-5 and then with a K-5iis
 
 K-5
 http://pentax.briefing-paper.com/1121
 Posted in May
 
 K-5iis
 http://pentax.briefing-paper.com/1864
 Posted today
 
 If you are like me, the first thing that will hit you is the color
 difference. At first I assumed that they were taken side-by-side on
 the same day, but the fact that they were taken 5 months apart makes
 me wonder about the light conditions (color) that each was taken
 under. The color of the K-5 is much more pleasing, to my eye.
 
 The K-5iis image is clearly sharper (read the text that wraps around
 the starburst in the upper right) but one might argue the K-5 is
 sharp enough. The bottom photo on each page is with extra sharpness
 (in camera). I put the images side by side in a single photoshop image
 so I could do some comparing. The extra sharpness K-5 image beats the
 zero sharpness K-5iis (to my eye). The commentator on the page (Google
 Chrome translation) says the same thing in reverse: With a sense of
 resolution (sharpness 0) normal state, there seems to be almost the
 same degree of proficiency and extra sharpness +1 in K-5.
 
 I leave it as an exercise for the reader to decide if that makes it
 worth the price of an upgrade from your K-5. I believe that most
 people will be putting more emphasis on its AF capabilities, as
 compared to the K-5, before deciding. But I think I'm going to remain
 happy with my K-5 for a long time to come.
 
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Re: PESO - Jazz Profile

2012-10-24 Thread Derby Chang


Beautiful. The light vignette and the touch of noise really works for me.


On 24/10/2012 12:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Vocalist Yuko Miyamoto at jazz saxist Bobby Hsu's gig at The Gate 403
in Toronto on Oct 19.

http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8117649662/lightbox/

This was a dimly lit club set where I was struggling to get any
non-soft shots at all. At one point I accidentally bumped the mode
dial from Av to Tv and it set a high shutter speed of 1/160th, then
underexposed at f:1.4. Astoundingly these few shots -- until I found
the dial set wrong and set it back -- were among the sharpest of the
evening. It looks a lot like handholding at low shutter speeds
contributes to much softness that I'd thought was bad focus. I'm going
to explore this fast shutter in the dark in future.

K20D, DA* 55/1.4, 1/160th, ISO 1600. Lr 4.2.




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Re: Pixel-peek (you know you want to) K-5 vs K-5iis

2012-10-24 Thread Darren Addy
The size of the cropped image is irrelevant if it is an actual pixel
size image (which they are). The FA31 is not a macro lens.
: )

They've just saved you a lot of time and bandwidth over downloading
the full image (and also made it practical to put them side-by-side on
screen).

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X100 under a grand

2012-10-24 Thread Derby Chang



http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751784-REG/Fujifilm_16128244_Finepix_X100_12_MP.html

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Re: X100 under a grand

2012-10-24 Thread Darren Addy
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:


 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/751784-REG/Fujifilm_16128244_Finepix_X100_12_MP.html

I think it is a gorgeous camera. This review (on BH) would make me
want to peruse some X100 forum posts before I spent that much,
however.

start of review:
The form factor for this camera is EXACTLY what i want. I waited a
long time to get this camera. After using it for 3 days I had to
return it. This camera does not focus correctly. I do not understand
why this issue is not being discussed.

I am a very experienced photographer - over 35 years. I have NEVER
.. repeat NEVER .. had any camera with this type of unreliable
focus. I read all the info on all the forums to mitigate the problem.
I concluded it was not worth the effort. This camera is not ready for
prime time. At this price you should not have to WORK HARD to get
Autofocus to work properly.

Yes .. it had the latest firmware.
end of review

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Re: Pixel-peek (you know you want to) K-5 vs K-5iis

2012-10-24 Thread David Parsons
It doesn't really prove much IMO.  Without controlling for variables
such as lighting, distance, focus, microfocus adjustment, it's just
two pictures of a note.

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 The size of the cropped image is irrelevant if it is an actual pixel
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 : )

 They've just saved you a lot of time and bandwidth over downloading
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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Brian Walters
Bloody hell, Frank.  That sucks.  I hope by some twist of fate you get  
it back.


I suppose the similar stories being posted aren't making you feel a  
whole lot better but I'll add mine anyway.


I left a backpack containing my trusty SFXn in a supermarket trolly at  
the local shopping centre.  I didn't even realise it was missing until  
about a half an hour later, while I was having a quiet coffee, there  
was an announcement over the centre's PA system asking me to come to  
the manager's office.  Actually, even after the announcement it didn't  
occur to me that the backpack wasn't with me.  It wasn't until I  
arrived at the manager's office and saw the pack that the head  
slapping started.


Someone had handed in the backpack and there was a power bill (or  
something similar) in it with my name on it.  I was lucky - and  
grateful that there was at least one honest person in the centre that  
day.



Cheers

Brian

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Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com:


Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had  
taken my camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me  
while I sat in a shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then  
my Android beeped, telling me I got a call to pick up.


As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking  
feeling hit me; no camera around my neck.


I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was  
almost two hours after I left my camera before I got back to the  
mall. Checked with security and all the stores near the bench (who  
would have brought the camera to security - mall policy); nothing  
turned in.


Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads  
myself, continued to monitor ads and security.


Nothing.

Gone.

Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did  
nothing illegal, but you'll never convince me that keeping that  
camera was morally right. The ~right~ thing to do would have been to  
turn it in to security.


They might as well have stolen it from me.

I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if  
they pawn it or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market  
value.


Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar  
for $20 for a few beers.


Oh well.

About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners.  
The 18-55mm was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a  
valuable lens.


And I still have my venerable *IstD.

It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

cheers,
frank

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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Toine to...@repiuk.nl:

If I remember correctly the manual claims SR should be switched off  
for macro.



I don't recall seeing that in the K200D or K-5 manuals - not saying it  
isn't there, but they are large manuals and I have a short attention  
span  :-)


The manuals do say to switch SR off if the cameras are tripod mounted.



Cheers

Brian

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Toine

On 24 October 2012 18:32, Jos from Holland  
jos_from_holl...@onsnet.nu wrote:

I always wondered how to adjust for image stabilization in macro. I use
SMC-M 100mm macro and SMC-M 50mm on my K5d quite often with a macro ring. I
have to adjust the focal distance of the lens manually. But what really
counts for image stabilization is the angle of view, I guess. So should I
use a correction factor and adjust maybe 300mm for the 100mm lens??? Similar
things for my Sigma 17-70mm in macro mode.  Any thoughts?? Greetings, Jos

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Jack Davis
Gave you an excuse (if you needed one) to return to the bar. I doubt you left 
it on purpose, but.
 
Jacj



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As long as we're sharing uplifting stories, I left my *ist-Ds w the M85 FA43 
limited and A24mm in a bar in Newport RI a few years ago.  Realized what I'd 
done about an hour later after crossing the Newport Bridge returning to the 
mainland.  Called them immediately.  The bartender told me he'd found it and 
would hold it for me.  I was able to pick it up the next day, with nothing 
missing.  Nice people.

On the other hand I've been in bars where I've watched stolen goods be 
exchanged, being unarmed made me feel naked.

On 10/24/2012 2:47 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com wrote:
 
 Yeah, I left my black lowepro bag stuffed full of gear in a darkened
 room corner of a motel in Greeneville, SC once, not realizing it until I
 arrived home three hours later that it didn't make the trip with me.
 
 Fortunately, I was a regular there and they recognized the bag as mine,
 so they held on to it until I could get back down there a couple days
 later. I tell you, though, it was a rough realization when it wasn't in
 the Jeep.
 I once left my 31/1.8 Ltd at a site in a park where I was doing a dawn
 shoot for a (paying!) client. I realized what I'd done about an hour
 later. Since it was a dawn shoot in the middle of a large park and it
 was still before 8:00 a.m. when I returned, the lens was still there
 sitting on a rock in the middle of a stream.
 
 Once in Winston-Salem before GFM my car was broken into with ALL my
 gear in the back -- including 80-200/2.8, 300/2.8, medium format kit,
 etc... The thief took only a case of music CDs from the front seat (I
 think the alarm may have induced him to grab something small as fast
 as possible without investigating the vehicle's contents further).
 


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Re: I Wanna Be a Cameraman

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling

Livin' the nightmare, err dream.

On 10/23/2012 9:29 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

B

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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
Thanks for lookin' Bob. 

On Oct 24, 2012, at 13:26 , Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Nice set Joe, the sunset photos make me think of the Smokeys.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:15 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 Now located on the Key Peninsula (locals = The Key) in Washington State, 
 instead of 3 miles to the dog park when in Everett, it is now 30 miles to a 
 leash free park, in Port Orchard. As such I only take the dogs for their 
 exercise twice a week. Limits my exposure to the rest of the world. If I 
 were to stop the car and set up each shot I'd like to capture in this new 
 territory for me, I'd never make it to market or the post office.
 
 I thought I'd share a few that were taken at the dog park, or on the way 
 home, a week ago. My first use of Flickr. Been a member for two years. After 
 losing my gallery at Apple when they humidified and became an iCloud, I 
 have just made the time to explore the interface and the results. If anyone 
 has any advice for me for or against, or suggestions of the best site for 
 my casual , not trying to make a living with this, too complicated to do the 
 searching needed to see if anyone copied for commercial use, too lazy to put 
 a watermark in them photographs, chime in.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/bssq32j
 
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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Aw, Frank, I am so sorry to hear that. That really sucks and I know
how much a body blow like that can dishearten one. If there might be
some way I can help you out, let me know.


On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

 It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my 
 camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a 
 shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, 
 telling me I got a call to pick up.

 As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit 
 me; no camera around my neck.

 I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two 
 hours after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with 
 security and all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera 
 to security - mall policy); nothing turned in.

 Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, 
 continued to monitor ads and security.

 Nothing.

 Gone.

 Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing 
 illegal, but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally 
 right. The ~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security.

 They might as well have stolen it from me.

 I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn 
 it or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value.

 Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 
 for a few beers.

 Oh well.

 About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
 was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

 And I still have my venerable *IstD.

 It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:
 Quoting Toine to...@repiuk.nl:

 If I remember correctly the manual claims SR should be switched off for
 macro.

 I don't recall seeing that in the K200D or K-5 manuals - not saying it isn't
 there, but they are large manuals and I have a short attention span  :-)

That's a Mark! right there.


 The manuals do say to switch SR off if the cameras are tripod mounted.

I think that covers most macro usage. Detailed macro work is almost
always going to be on a tripod.

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Re: PESO - Jazz Profile

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
That's much appreciated, Frank.


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 Sublime.

 cheers,
 frank

 --- Original Message ---

 From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com
 Sent: October 23, 2012 10/23/12
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 Subject: PESO - Jazz Profile

 Vocalist Yuko Miyamoto at jazz saxist Bobby Hsu's gig at The Gate 403
 in Toronto on Oct 19.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8117649662/lightbox/

 This was a dimly lit club set where I was struggling to get any
 non-soft shots at all. At one point I accidentally bumped the mode
 dial from Av to Tv and it set a high shutter speed of 1/160th, then
 underexposed at f:1.4. Astoundingly these few shots -- until I found
 the dial set wrong and set it back -- were among the sharpest of the
 evening. It looks a lot like handholding at low shutter speeds
 contributes to much softness that I'd thought was bad focus. I'm going
 to explore this fast shutter in the dark in future.

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, 1/160th, ISO 1600. Lr 4.2.

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Re: PESO - Jazz Profile

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Absolutely, Boris. Just as soon as I trademark it and register
fastshutterinthedark.com. :-)

Thank you Boris, Larry and Dave M.!


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:18 AM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote:
 One of the more original and well executed concert shots as of recently.

 I will borrow your fast shutter speed in the dark idea, if I may, please.


 On 10/24/2012 3:08 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Vocalist Yuko Miyamoto at jazz saxist Bobby Hsu's gig at The Gate 403
 in Toronto on Oct 19.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8117649662/lightbox/

 This was a dimly lit club set where I was struggling to get any
 non-soft shots at all. At one point I accidentally bumped the mode
 dial from Av to Tv and it set a high shutter speed of 1/160th, then
 underexposed at f:1.4. Astoundingly these few shots -- until I found
 the dial set wrong and set it back -- were among the sharpest of the
 evening. It looks a lot like handholding at low shutter speeds
 contributes to much softness that I'd thought was bad focus. I'm going
 to explore this fast shutter in the dark in future.

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, 1/160th, ISO 1600. Lr 4.2.



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RE: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread Kenneth Waller
Great colors!


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Subject: RE: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

Of course, I forgot the URL.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/8119440844/in/set-72157631843888271/lightbox/


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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
Thank you Don. My favorite as well.

The more panoistic of the two is a crop from a wider angle shot, same position.

It is unusual to see a photo op while still a half mile away, but I did. When I 
found a place to turn off and walk up to the intersection, I was delighted. 
Hope all of those who view it are too.

On Oct 24, 2012, at 13:41 , Don Guthrie wrote:

 Sunset in the forest is my favorite. Nice views.
 
 
 
 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 15
 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:15:55 -0700
 From: Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail ListPDML@pdml.net
 Subject: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington
 Message-ID:9c88910c-94c7-45ec-9a16-f1ba05e19...@mac.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 
 Now located on the Key Peninsula (locals = The Key) in Washington State, 
 instead of 3 miles to the dog park when in Everett, it is now 30 miles to a 
 leash free park, in Port Orchard. As such I only take the dogs for their 
 exercise twice a week. Limits my exposure to the rest of the world. If I 
 were to stop the car and set up each shot I'd like to capture in this new 
 territory for me, I'd never make it to market or the post office.
 
 I thought I'd share a few that were taken at the dog park, or on the way 
 home, a week ago. My first use of Flickr. Been a member for two years. After 
 losing my gallery at Apple when they humidified and became an iCloud, I 
 have just made the time to explore the interface and the results. If anyone 
 has any advice for me for or against, or suggestions of the best site for 
 my casual , not trying to make a living with this, too complicated to do the 
 searching needed to see if anyone copied for commercial use, too lazy to put 
 a watermark in them photographs, chime in.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/bssq32j
 
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Re: PESO - Jazz Profile

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Derby.

FYI, the underexposure and the scene itself combined to provide the
vignette. I just had to bring up the shadows and mids a bit and tame
some highlights on her face to balance the composition. It's as close
to SooC as I've posted here lately. Usually Mr. Photoshop Till I Drop.
:-)


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 Beautiful. The light vignette and the touch of noise really works for me.



 On 24/10/2012 12:08 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

 Vocalist Yuko Miyamoto at jazz saxist Bobby Hsu's gig at The Gate 403
 in Toronto on Oct 19.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8117649662/lightbox/

 This was a dimly lit club set where I was struggling to get any
 non-soft shots at all. At one point I accidentally bumped the mode
 dial from Av to Tv and it set a high shutter speed of 1/160th, then
 underexposed at f:1.4. Astoundingly these few shots -- until I found
 the dial set wrong and set it back -- were among the sharpest of the
 evening. It looks a lot like handholding at low shutter speeds
 contributes to much softness that I'd thought was bad focus. I'm going
 to explore this fast shutter in the dark in future.

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, 1/160th, ISO 1600. Lr 4.2.



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Another Lens Comparison: M* 300/4 v Tamron 300/5.6 BBAR

2012-10-24 Thread Collin Brendemuehl
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Re: I Wanna Be a Cameraman

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Hilarious! I'm so there, yo.


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 B

 A bit of fun - even with the odd Pentax sighting

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKBetMjwLk8feature=g-user-u




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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
I concur with Don and give the nod to Sunset in the forest: beautiful.

Given your simple criteria, you won't do much better than Flickr.
Especially if you intend to make any use of the organizing features
(like sets  collections) or the social networking (groups, contacts,
comments). 500px is cooler but very weak on both those points so
I've bailed.

At the free level Flickr will only display your latest 200 shots to
others, but that won't be a restriction to you for a while. :-) The
Pro level is $25 per year, so it's damned cheap. Lifts all the
restrictions and gets you statistics.

There are noises from Yahoo that they are going to be spending more
money and time on Flickr, but who knows.

I think Tumblr is an alternative (of sorts), but there's more work
involved than Flickr. All the other good ones want some money
(SmugMug, etc.).


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sunset in the forest is my favorite. Nice views.


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 Message: 15
 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:15:55 -0700
 From: Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com
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 Subject: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington
 Message-ID:9c88910c-94c7-45ec-9a16-f1ba05e19...@mac.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252


 Now located on the Key Peninsula (locals = The Key) in Washington State,
 instead of 3 miles to the dog park when in Everett, it is now 30 miles to a
 leash free park, in Port Orchard. As such I only take the dogs for their
 exercise twice a week. Limits my exposure to the rest of the world. If I
 were to stop the car and set up each shot I'd like to capture in this new
 territory for me, I'd never make it to market or the post office.

 I thought I'd share a few that were taken at the dog park, or on the way
 home, a week ago. My first use of Flickr. Been a member for two years. After
 losing my gallery at Apple when they humidified and became an iCloud, I
 have just made the time to explore the interface and the results. If anyone
 has any advice for me for or against, or suggestions of the best site for
 my casual , not trying to make a living with this, too complicated to do the
 searching needed to see if anyone copied for commercial use, too lazy to put
 a watermark in them photographs, chime in.

 http://tinyurl.com/bssq32j

 Comments up or down will be appreciated.


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Re: PESO - Jazz Profile

2012-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
Well done

Dave

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vocalist Yuko Miyamoto at jazz saxist Bobby Hsu's gig at The Gate 403
 in Toronto on Oct 19.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8117649662/lightbox/

 This was a dimly lit club set where I was struggling to get any
 non-soft shots at all. At one point I accidentally bumped the mode
 dial from Av to Tv and it set a high shutter speed of 1/160th, then
 underexposed at f:1.4. Astoundingly these few shots -- until I found
 the dial set wrong and set it back -- were among the sharpest of the
 evening. It looks a lot like handholding at low shutter speeds
 contributes to much softness that I'd thought was bad focus. I'm going
 to explore this fast shutter in the dark in future.

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, 1/160th, ISO 1600. Lr 4.2.

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Re: GESO: Fall colors on the Buffalo

2012-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Theodore Beilby tbei...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 Of course, I forgot the URL.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/ted_beilby/8119440844/in/set-72157631843888271/lightbox/


 Thanks again

 Ted

Good set there. Nice colours and i like the bluff as back drop

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Re: 2 Peso - country road and city street

2012-10-24 Thread David J Brooks
Both lovely shots
Dave

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:
 This was one I was going to use on my 48 state calendar until I found out it
 was in NY instead of Connecticut and NY was already done.

 It was outside the home of a friend who lived then right on the NY/CT
 border.

 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Random-stuff/2607384_ZTHNRm/1/2170283500_WRwrgkX/Original

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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Theodore Beilby
I agree with Don. I like the Sunset in the Forest, best. I might have cropped 
some of the sky, keeping enough to continue the horizontal lines of the 
composition. Just a little too much white for me as it is presented. I really 
like the rim lighting on the trees.

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Re: PESO: Another Coyote

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling
Only Google's high handedness could make me like Photo.net.  That's a 
nice shot, but it worries me to see Coyotes in daylight.


On 10/22/2012 10:44 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Thanks for the explaination p...@paper-ape.com (you really need a name!).
A better gallery of recent shots is here...
http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1042479
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:51 AM,  p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

on 2012-10-21 14:10 Bob Sullivan wrote

Try again, I didn't have it set for public viewing.
https://plus.google.com/u/0/?tab=mX


an explanation since this is likely to come up again:

the reason this link didn't work is that Google does rather selfish things
when you are looking at your own stuff in your own Plus account — every page
you load is not really a page, and the URL doesn't change; this is
intentional — it makes it really hard to share something outside Google's
sphere of control; you have to do something like get to the same photo via
Picassa and copy the link from there

… the Picassa links you sent turned into plus.google links for me, but i
don't know any way to get those links directly; they are cool shots; i very
much like the dreamy one with the big trunk framing one edge; i like
arboreta too and will try to remember that one if i am in Chicago sometime

i missed a great shot of a coyote a couple of weeks ago because i didn't
have my iPhone set right, nor my Pentax over my shoulder — coyote leapt
across my tall blue gramma lawn about 20 feet away from me, but the durned
phone was still processing the previous (not as dramatic) shot in HDR mode
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Re: Is this ugly or what?

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling


Pimpin'  Like a '70's Eldorado with red leather seats and white shag carpet.



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Re: PESO: Another Coyote

2012-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
PJ,
It's early morning, and they keep the Canada Geese population down.
(It's illegal to harm Frank's flying rats here in Illinois, but they
ignore this.)
Occasionally a suburban housewife loses her small dog in her back yard at night.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:57 PM, P. J. Alling
webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only Google's high handedness could make me like Photo.net.  That's a nice
 shot, but it worries me to see Coyotes in daylight.


 On 10/22/2012 10:44 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

 Thanks for the explaination p...@paper-ape.com (you really need a name!).
 A better gallery of recent shots is here...
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1042479
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:51 AM,  p...@paper-ape.com wrote:

 on 2012-10-21 14:10 Bob Sullivan wrote

 Try again, I didn't have it set for public viewing.
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/?tab=mX


 an explanation since this is likely to come up again:

 the reason this link didn't work is that Google does rather selfish
 things
 when you are looking at your own stuff in your own Plus account — every
 page
 you load is not really a page, and the URL doesn't change; this is
 intentional — it makes it really hard to share something outside Google's
 sphere of control; you have to do something like get to the same photo
 via
 Picassa and copy the link from there

 … the Picassa links you sent turned into plus.google links for me, but i
 don't know any way to get those links directly; they are cool shots; i
 very
 much like the dreamy one with the big trunk framing one edge; i like
 arboreta too and will try to remember that one if i am in Chicago
 sometime

 i missed a great shot of a coyote a couple of weeks ago because i didn't
 have my iPhone set right, nor my Pentax over my shoulder — coyote leapt
 across my tall blue gramma lawn about 20 feet away from me, but the
 durned
 phone was still processing the previous (not as dramatic) shot in HDR
 mode
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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Oct 24, 2012, at 14:52 , Bruce Walker wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Toine to...@repiuk.nl:
 
 If I remember correctly the manual claims SR should be switched off for
 macro.
 
 I don't recall seeing that in the K200D or K-5 manuals - not saying it isn't
 there, but they are large manuals and I have a short attention span  :-)
 
 That's a Mark! right there.
 
 
 The manuals do say to switch SR off if the cameras are tripod mounted.
 
 I think that covers most macro usage. Detailed macro work is almost
 always going to be on a tripod.

I ran some tests a year ago that showed me, personally, that my tripod images 
were either equal or better with SR on than with SR off. Same with a 2 second 
delay and SR. But with a 12 sec delay, off was better.

I was headed out to the dog park yesterday afternoon (a grey and rainy day) and 
noticed a couple of our favorite birds sittin' on the swim to platform in 
Palmer Lake. Positioned the car to afford me a shot or two, using the half way 
up window to steady the camera and 18-250 with. Looking through the viewfinder 
at 250mm, I was shocked to see how unsteady my hands have become. Tried spot  
center AF, MF, and not using the window as a brace, plus 250mm vs 100mm. Think 
it was between 1/60 and 1/160 of a second with SR on. Nothing was sharp enough 
for my tastes. Guess I'll have to start lugging to 60-250 brick around. A few 
months ago I got some nice sharp images at the dog park with the lowly 80-300 
FA-J that looked better. than this 18-250. With less CA too.

Best at 250mm, and best (cropped) at 100mm plus a crop of a 250mm shot. Mind 
you, these were shot at jpeg, 5 stars, 16 mp.

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Re: PESO: Another Coyote

2012-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
We have coyotes as well. They're good at controlling the rabbit and chipmunk 
population as well, which is a boon for my vegetable garden.
Paul
On Oct 24, 2012, at 7:18 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 PJ,
 It's early morning, and they keep the Canada Geese population down.
 (It's illegal to harm Frank's flying rats here in Illinois, but they
 ignore this.)
 Occasionally a suburban housewife loses her small dog in her back yard at 
 night.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:57 PM, P. J. Alling
 webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote:
 Only Google's high handedness could make me like Photo.net.  That's a nice
 shot, but it worries me to see Coyotes in daylight.
 
 
 On 10/22/2012 10:44 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 
 Thanks for the explaination p...@paper-ape.com (you really need a name!).
 A better gallery of recent shots is here...
 http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1042479
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:51 AM,  p...@paper-ape.com wrote:
 
 on 2012-10-21 14:10 Bob Sullivan wrote
 
 Try again, I didn't have it set for public viewing.
 https://plus.google.com/u/0/?tab=mX
 
 
 an explanation since this is likely to come up again:
 
 the reason this link didn't work is that Google does rather selfish
 things
 when you are looking at your own stuff in your own Plus account — every
 page
 you load is not really a page, and the URL doesn't change; this is
 intentional — it makes it really hard to share something outside Google's
 sphere of control; you have to do something like get to the same photo
 via
 Picassa and copy the link from there
 
 … the Picassa links you sent turned into plus.google links for me, but i
 don't know any way to get those links directly; they are cool shots; i
 very
 much like the dreamy one with the big trunk framing one edge; i like
 arboreta too and will try to remember that one if i am in Chicago
 sometime
 
 i missed a great shot of a coyote a couple of weeks ago because i didn't
 have my iPhone set right, nor my Pentax over my shoulder — coyote leapt
 across my tall blue gramma lawn about 20 feet away from me, but the
 durned
 phone was still processing the previous (not as dramatic) shot in HDR
 mode
 … good lesson
 
 
 
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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Brian Walters

Quoting Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Brian Walters  
apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote:

Quoting Toine to...@repiuk.nl:


If I remember correctly the manual claims SR should be switched off for
macro.


I don't recall seeing that in the K200D or K-5 manuals - not  
saying it isn't

there, but they are large manuals and I have a short attention span  :-)


That's a Mark! right there.



The manuals do say to switch SR off if the cameras are tripod mounted.


I think that covers most macro usage. Detailed macro work is almost
always going to be on a tripod.


I ran some tests a year ago that showed me, personally, that my  
tripod images were either equal or better with SR on than with SR  
off. Same with a 2 second delay and SR. But with a 12 sec delay, off  
was better.



Ah, now.  Are you absolutely sure about that 2 sec delay mode?

One thing I did find in the manuals (in the short periods of mental  
alertness) is that SR is turned off automatically whenever a self  
timer mode is selected




Cheers

Brian

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I was headed out to the dog park yesterday afternoon (a grey and  
rainy day) and noticed a couple of our favorite birds sittin' on the  
swim to platform in Palmer Lake. Positioned the car to afford me a  
shot or two, using the half way up window to steady the camera and  
18-250 with. Looking through the viewfinder at 250mm, I was shocked  
to see how unsteady my hands have become. Tried spot  center AF,  
MF, and not using the window as a brace, plus 250mm vs 100mm. Think  
it was between 1/60 and 1/160 of a second with SR on. Nothing was  
sharp enough for my tastes. Guess I'll have to start lugging to  
60-250 brick around. A few months ago I got some nice sharp images  
at the dog park with the lowly 80-300 FA-J that looked better. than  
this 18-250. With less CA too.


Best at 250mm, and best (cropped) at 100mm plus a crop of a 250mm  
shot. Mind you, these were shot at jpeg, 5 stars, 16 mp.


http://tinyurl.com/8dt4ag5


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Re: PESO - Jazz Profile

2012-10-24 Thread Bruce Walker
Thanks, Dave!


On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote:
 Well done

 Dave

 On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Vocalist Yuko Miyamoto at jazz saxist Bobby Hsu's gig at The Gate 403
 in Toronto on Oct 19.

 http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8117649662/lightbox/

 This was a dimly lit club set where I was struggling to get any
 non-soft shots at all. At one point I accidentally bumped the mode
 dial from Av to Tv and it set a high shutter speed of 1/160th, then
 underexposed at f:1.4. Astoundingly these few shots -- until I found
 the dial set wrong and set it back -- were among the sharpest of the
 evening. It looks a lot like handholding at low shutter speeds
 contributes to much softness that I'd thought was bad focus. I'm going
 to explore this fast shutter in the dark in future.

 K20D, DA* 55/1.4, 1/160th, ISO 1600. Lr 4.2.

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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Joe,
What about a bean bag in the car...
Regards,  Bob S.

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 14:52 , Bruce Walker wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Toine to...@repiuk.nl:

 If I remember correctly the manual claims SR should be switched off for
 macro.

 I don't recall seeing that in the K200D or K-5 manuals - not saying it isn't
 there, but they are large manuals and I have a short attention span  :-)

 That's a Mark! right there.


 The manuals do say to switch SR off if the cameras are tripod mounted.

 I think that covers most macro usage. Detailed macro work is almost
 always going to be on a tripod.

 I ran some tests a year ago that showed me, personally, that my tripod images 
 were either equal or better with SR on than with SR off. Same with a 2 second 
 delay and SR. But with a 12 sec delay, off was better.

 I was headed out to the dog park yesterday afternoon (a grey and rainy day) 
 and noticed a couple of our favorite birds sittin' on the swim to platform 
 in Palmer Lake. Positioned the car to afford me a shot or two, using the half 
 way up window to steady the camera and 18-250 with. Looking through the 
 viewfinder at 250mm, I was shocked to see how unsteady my hands have become. 
 Tried spot  center AF, MF, and not using the window as a brace, plus 250mm 
 vs 100mm. Think it was between 1/60 and 1/160 of a second with SR on. Nothing 
 was sharp enough for my tastes. Guess I'll have to start lugging to 60-250 
 brick around. A few months ago I got some nice sharp images at the dog park 
 with the lowly 80-300 FA-J that looked better. than this 18-250. With less CA 
 too.

 Best at 250mm, and best (cropped) at 100mm plus a crop of a 250mm shot. Mind 
 you, these were shot at jpeg, 5 stars, 16 mp.

 http://tinyurl.com/8dt4ag5


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RE: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineeringquestion)

2012-10-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
force it, if it breaks, it needed replacing anyways...

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If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer...

On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 3:23 PM, P. J. Alling
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 You mean percussion adjustment tool...


 On 10/24/2012 1:41 PM, l...@red4est.com wrote:

 British Leyland fine adjustment tool BFH-042.

 John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 06:04:29AM +1100, Peter McIntosh wrote:

 FWIW, My father (god bless him) used to describe a hammer as an
 American screwdriver... :-)

 Ciao,

 Pete Mac in Melbourne - back to practicing my (poor) manual focus

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Re: OT - Samsung Reportedly Will Stop Sourcing Apple

2012-10-24 Thread Tom C
 From: Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com

 I think that what's moral for individual human beings does not
 necessarily apply to corporations. Specifically, I think that the so
 called grey area is much broader for corporations than it is for you and me.


In theory that's correct. In practice it's wrong. I know it. You know
it. The CEO's know it. (I'm not implying you didn't) :)

(Frank wrote:)

 Doesn't mean they should stop making money from on of their biggest
 clients, does it? This is a simple ongoing commodity transaction that
 is completely divorced from the intellectual property departments
 duking it out.

(Boris wrote:)


 Well, no. In fact, there is nothing immoral in stopping dealing with
 Apple. Like it is always said - nothing personal, just business...
 Someone up the ladder came up with the power point presentation that
 appears to support the idea that in terms of profit this would be the
 best move for Samsung and hence the decision was eventually made.

 I am surprised it wasn't made way earlier, in fact.

There's several ways to look at it. I'm not a Samsung fanboy or
necessarily anti-Apple.

On the one hand, if you go suing your supplier who's also a
competitor... well I don't know how much profit Samsung makes on their
business with Apple, but $1B probably covers what they made on A LOT
of iPad displays and other chips. So it sort of looks like, in a way,
that Apple would be, in essence, getting Samsung's product for less
than the agreed upon price. Score for Apple. If I were Samsung would I
want to do business with a company that was essentially getting my
product at a cut-rate price via litigation? Rumor has it Apple was
already looking for lower cost displays. If I were Samsung I'd tell
Apple to shove it, which they may have done. All businesses have a
legitimate interest in making a fair and honest profit.

On the other hand I read that $1B is only a day or two's worth of
revenue for Samsung, and that the lawsuit may have elevated Samsung in
the eyes of some as a worthy Apple competitor. If so, a possible
misstep by Apple.

I don't countenance the theft of intellectual property via Samsung or
Apple and I don't know where the truth is there. I certainly don't
agree with 'you cant make a product that's slim, rectangular, has
rounded corners and uses icons or gestures that are meaningful'.

It seems that corporations, like governments, once in power, do
everything possible to stay in power and suppress contenders.

The actions of a corporation are the deliberate actions of thinking
human beings. Those actions are either fair and legitimate or they are
not, regardless of how the legal profession wishes to spin it.

Tom C.

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Re: Lost, K10D

2012-10-24 Thread Christine Nielsen
Argh, that's a heartbreaker, Frank.  So sorry to hear
:(
-c

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:20 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com
knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, not really lost, rather, stupidly left on a bench.

 It happened a week and a half ago. I was working at the time, had taken my 
 camera strap off my neck and put the camera next to me while I sat in a 
 shopping mall checking something in my wallet. Then my Android beeped, 
 telling me I got a call to pick up.

 As I got off the subway about fifteen minutes later that sinking feeling hit 
 me; no camera around my neck.

 I immediately got a second call to do, so unfortunately it was almost two 
 hours after I left my camera before I got back to the mall. Checked with 
 security and all the stores near the bench (who would have brought the camera 
 to security - mall policy); nothing turned in.

 Checked the local lost and found ads, placed lost and found ads myself, 
 continued to monitor ads and security.

 Nothing.

 Gone.

 Ok, I know the person who found it and walked away with it did nothing 
 illegal, but you'll never convince me that keeping that camera was morally 
 right. The ~right~ thing to do would have been to turn it in to security.

 They might as well have stolen it from me.

 I guess what bothers me most is that they won't get much for it if they pawn 
 it or sell it. It's worth far more to me than it's market value.

 Even worse, what likely happened is that the finder sold it at a bar for $20 
 for a few beers.

 Oh well.

 About 30 lost images, maybe a few good ones but no prize winners. The 18-55mm 
 was on it and while I'll miss it, at least it's not a valuable lens.

 And I still have my venerable *IstD.

 It was a terrific camera and took wonderful images. I'll miss it.

 cheers,
 frank

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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister
Thanks for your comments, Ted, and Bruce.

Just spent an hour or so perusing the gazillion things I can set to keep a 
leash on my images, see what I can and cannot do, etc.. Seems like a reasonable 
site for showing to the PDMLr's what my eyes see, and whether the camera agrees 
or disagrees.

Set my licensing up to Attribution, non-commercial, share-alike. As has been 
discussed before, don't mean a hill o'beans if some want to do as they please. 
I'd have to be at the dentist or doctors to have a good chance of spotting any. 
 :)


On Oct 24, 2012, at 15:32 , Bruce Walker wrote:

 I concur with Don and give the nod to Sunset in the forest: beautiful.
 
 Given your simple criteria, you won't do much better than Flickr.
 Especially if you intend to make any use of the organizing features
 (like sets  collections) or the social networking (groups, contacts,
 comments). 500px is cooler but very weak on both those points so
 I've bailed.
 
 At the free level Flickr will only display your latest 200 shots to
 others, but that won't be a restriction to you for a while. :-) The
 Pro level is $25 per year, so it's damned cheap. Lifts all the
 restrictions and gets you statistics.
 
 There are noises from Yahoo that they are going to be spending more
 money and time on Flickr, but who knows.
 
 I think Tumblr is an alternative (of sorts), but there's more work
 involved than Flickr. All the other good ones want some money
 (SmugMug, etc.).
 
 
 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 4:41 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sunset in the forest is my favorite. Nice views.
 


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PESO - Rainy Day Conversation

2012-10-24 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
It's been soggy weather the past few days:

 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/rainy-day-conversation.html?m=0

Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.

Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Rainy Day Conversation

2012-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
A couple of umbrella heads! I like it.
Paul

On Oct 24, 2012, at 10:15 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's been soggy weather the past few days:
 
 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.ca/2012/10/rainy-day-conversation.html?m=0
 
 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome.
 
 Cheers,
 frank 
 
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Re: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington

2012-10-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
A nice set. I'll go with sunset in the forest as top pic, but I also like 
wall in fall very much. Good work.
Pul
On Oct 24, 2012, at 6:05 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote:

 Thank you Don. My favorite as well.
 
 The more panoistic of the two is a crop from a wider angle shot, same 
 position.
 
 It is unusual to see a photo op while still a half mile away, but I did. When 
 I found a place to turn off and walk up to the intersection, I was delighted. 
 Hope all of those who view it are too.
 
 On Oct 24, 2012, at 13:41 , Don Guthrie wrote:
 
 Sunset in the forest is my favorite. Nice views.
 
 
 
 pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote:
 Message: 15
 Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:15:55 -0700
 From: Joseph McAllisterpentax...@mac.com
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 Subject: GESO: Fall Colors in Washington
 Message-ID:9c88910c-94c7-45ec-9a16-f1ba05e19...@mac.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
 
 Now located on the Key Peninsula (locals = The Key) in Washington State, 
 instead of 3 miles to the dog park when in Everett, it is now 30 miles to a 
 leash free park, in Port Orchard. As such I only take the dogs for their 
 exercise twice a week. Limits my exposure to the rest of the world. If I 
 were to stop the car and set up each shot I'd like to capture in this new 
 territory for me, I'd never make it to market or the post office.
 
 I thought I'd share a few that were taken at the dog park, or on the way 
 home, a week ago. My first use of Flickr. Been a member for two years. 
 After losing my gallery at Apple when they humidified and became an 
 iCloud, I have just made the time to explore the interface and the results. 
 If anyone has any advice for me for or against, or suggestions of the 
 best site for my casual , not trying to make a living with this, too 
 complicated to do the searching needed to see if anyone copied for 
 commercial use, too lazy to put a watermark in them photographs, chime in.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/bssq32j
 
 Comments up or down will be appreciated.
 
 
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Re: K5 Discontinued at BH

2012-10-24 Thread P. J. Alling

Two days later and the K-5 is back in stock at BH...

There are probably enough new K-5 cameras to sell until sometime in 
January, maybe longer.


Pentax/Ricoh USA still lists the K-5 as a current item.  The rumors of 
it's demise are over stated.


In fact if my little tongue in cheek diatribe about Pentax announcing a 
FF camera in January is correct, the K-5 will be a /current/ offering 
when the K-[whatever], (damn I used to be able to use X as a symbol for 
the unknown), is about to be released.


On 10/22/2012 5:04 PM, Darren Addy wrote:

A friend of mine who teaches Computer Science at the university may
have gotten the very last BH K-5 (new). It was only a matter of an
hour or so between his purchase and the they're out post to PDML.

Lowest seller on Amazon, as I type this, is Beach at $894 (body only).
That's about the current low price for a Buy It Now from ebay (U.S.)
also. If you want to take a chance on a returned one with a 30 day
Square Trade warranty, as opposed to the factory 1 year... there are 5
on Amazon Warehouse Deals from $754 to $796. The lower priced ones
have minor cosmetic damage.

Meanwhile, the 12-bit K-30 body is down to $659 (new by a Seller
through Amazon) or $590 through Amazon Warehouse Deals.

K-5 ii body is $1199 (preorder price) and the K-5 iis $100 more.




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Re: What about immage stabilization and macro

2012-10-24 Thread Joseph McAllister

On Oct 24, 2012, at 16:37 , Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com:
 
 On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org 
 wrote:
 Quoting Toine to...@repiuk.nl:
 
 If I remember correctly the manual claims SR should be switched off for
 macro.
 
 I don't recall seeing that in the K200D or K-5 manuals - not saying it 
 isn't
 there, but they are large manuals and I have a short attention span  :-)
 
 That's a Mark! right there.
 
 
 The manuals do say to switch SR off if the cameras are tripod mounted.
 
 I think that covers most macro usage. Detailed macro work is almost
 always going to be on a tripod.
 
 I ran some tests a year ago that showed me, personally, that my tripod 
 images were either equal or better with SR on than with SR off. Same with a 
 2 second delay and SR. But with a 12 sec delay, off was better.
 
 
 Ah, now.  Are you absolutely sure about that 2 sec delay mode?
 
 One thing I did find in the manuals (in the short periods of mental 
 alertness) is that SR is turned off automatically whenever a self timer mode 
 is selected

Any of you dealing with ADD/ADHD know damn well that one cannot read a manual, 
let alone a book. Once your mind gets a chance, it flips the mental page to 
whatever you were just reminded of, and no ability to back up, unless something 
else you are doing in the near to far distant future reminds you of the manual, 
or book. Then you have to -a. find the bloody thing -b. start reading again 
from the front, 'cause you know you won't know where you left off -c. repeat.

I'll have to check on that if and when I find the box with my manuals in it. I 
do remember the movers picking up the bookshelf then rolled it upside down so 
it's contents were spread around on the carpet. Either that or the stapled-on 
back of the bookcase fell off..  Only checking because it seems there has been 
a run of bad memory today.

Dave Brooks! If I didn't go back and spell check, then read slowly what I've 
written for context, thanks to spell checkers changing words to what you think 
they might be, my posts would be mucho more unreadable than yours. Fingers get 
fatter, and don't go where you aim them much once you're decrepit. I have a 
hard time using my iPad if I allow my hand to hover waiting to tap the next 
whatever. Finger tremble, have their own mind about when to tap. Makes for 
frustrating backing up. Guess it won't be long before they're fitting me with a 
cheek-switch and eye tracking apparatus.


Joseph McAllister
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Photons were one of the earliest particles to develop, 
but I don't think any were able to escape for a bit.
If they could, there would have been a flash during expansion.
No one would notice, of course, for another 4.2 billion years.
Now we are trying to catch up by looking out, and back in time
to that infinitesimally-small fraction of a millisecond in an attempt 
to see what caused that singularity to we call the Big Bang. This attempt 
will fail in any visual way, as the furthest galaxies and elements 
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Re: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineering question)

2012-10-24 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2012-10-24 16:49, Larry Colen wrote:


On Oct 24, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:


On 2012-10-24 16:28, Bob Sullivan wrote:

If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer...


If it doesn't fit, force it.  If it breaks, it needed replacing, anyway.


Doug doesn't need a torque wrench, he just tightens it until it strips, then 
backs it off a quarter turn.


Followed by application of Shoe-Goo, SuperGlue, or JB Weld, as 
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RE: Totally OT - philosophical question (Was: Structural engineeringquestion)

2012-10-24 Thread J.C. O'Connell
safety wire? Hell, chicken wire!

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On 2012-10-24 16:49, Larry Colen wrote:

 On Oct 24, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

 On 2012-10-24 16:28, Bob Sullivan wrote:
 If it doesn't fit, get a bigger hammer...

 If it doesn't fit, force it.  If it breaks, it needed replacing, anyway.

 Doug doesn't need a torque wrench, he just tightens it until it strips,
then backs it off a quarter turn.

Followed by application of Shoe-Goo, SuperGlue, or JB Weld, as 
appropriate.  Oh, and a safety wire.  Never forget the safety wire.

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Re: Comparing in-body and lens-based image stabilisation

2012-10-24 Thread kwaller
I'm always amazed by experts who don't seem to know very much, how did 
they get to be experts is there a test?


All they have to do is be more than 50 miles from home.

Kenneth Waller
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From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Comparing in-body and lens-based image stabilisation


Well, interesting.  I wonder if he knows that you can compare the 
difference between Optical and In camera stabilization by mounting a  4:3 
Panasonic stabilized lens, (or m4:3 if you prefer to use them), on an 
Olympus 4:3 body?  Hum, I guess not.


I'm always amazed by experts who don't seem to know very much, how did 
they get to be experts is there a test?


He does make pretty charts, maybe that's his area of expertise. This isn't 
earth shattering, in fact his results mirror the general perceived wisdom.


Olympus by the way is supposed to have a much much improved in body 
stabilization in the OM-D.  Maybe someone will test it vs a Panasonic 
stabilized lens.


I expect that the K-3, or whatever the heck it will be called, will have 
much improved in body stabilization, because they'll have



On 10/23/2012 5:15 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
Interesting article that uses a K-5 and a Sigma 50-500 mm HSM lens.  The 
article doesn't say what focal length was used in the tests but 
presumably it was the long end.


http://www.digitalversus.com/digital-camera/image-stabilisers-optical-mechanical-a1608.html






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