OT: Bomb sight
This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bomb sight
On 8 December 2012 19:37, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. Honestly I didn't appreciate the density of the bombing until moments ago, it must have been terrifying. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: I wonder what's next in lenses
On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Modern lenses have CPUs and a firmware that can be updated even by the user (m43 lenses, Sigma 35/1.4). Thus the camera lens is becoming a computer. As such the possibilities are endless, although I think they lie more in the software/electronics realm rather than in optical world. It's funny: My latest acquisitions in camera technology have reached further and further back into the past with simpler, less automated, less computer driven equipment. And at the moment it seems I'm seeing better with it. I've just loaded the 1955 Balda Baldix for tomorrow morning's walk ... :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: I wonder what's next in lenses
From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Godfrey DiGiorgi On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Modern lenses have CPUs and a firmware that can be updated even by the user (m43 lenses, Sigma 35/1.4). Thus the camera lens is becoming a computer. As such the possibilities are endless, although I think they lie more in the software/electronics realm rather than in optical world. It's funny: My latest acquisitions in camera technology have reached further and further back into the past with simpler, less automated, less computer driven equipment. And at the moment it seems I'm seeing better with it. I've just loaded the 1955 Balda Baldix for tomorrow morning's walk ... :-) that would be very suitable for all of us who were born around that time, and are now follicly challenged. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Snapseed now available for Android and iOS version now FREE
On 6 December 2012 22:20, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote: Blessed are the pessimistic for they shall never be disappointed. And not forgetting that an optimist is someone who's not in possession of all of the facts... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG now up. A Revision!
Beautiful Gallery! My favorites: Watching by Patrick Temmerman... Perhaps the best one considering the month's theme. Entrance Lamp by Matthew Hunt Steam by Dario Bonazza Last Days... by Ann Sanfedele... A classical. Would be happy to see it in print. Old Tools by Chris Mitchell Interestingly, all of these are monochromes! I am biased, perhaps! I'll be watching all again soon... Thanks to all contributors. Bulent - http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/ http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun 2012/12/8 Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org: G'day again It seems that my dyslexia failed to notice that Pete McIntosh's submission was for the 'Open Gallery' category. Not your fault, Pete. The submission was clearly marked 'Open Gallery'. My apologies. Anyway, a quick bit of html hacking has (hopefully) corrected the mistake, although anyone looking at the gallery for a second time might need to refresh a few pages to get the sequence of images correct (the older versions might still be in your browser's cache). http://pug.komkon.org/ -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO - today I learned about onesies
One Direction has a pop up shop, popped up today. Just as well the end of the world is coming. Fully zipped up 1D Onesies are a thing now. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12/Onesies/index.html The DA40mm XS is a lovely idea, but still a challenging lens to use, even on a K-5. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - S
I'm late, and lots of comments already, but...so lovely, especially the transition of the tones to white. On 5/12/2012 1:00 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-5 IIs - I'm impressed (PESO - tango)
Me too. Impressive is the balance of the main subjects and the approving crowd. Very well timed On 4/12/2012 1:32 PM, Igor Roshchin wrote: I've got a chance of shooting with the new K-5 IIs over the weekend at a tango festival. This means two things: low light and motion. I am impressed! I haven't tried Nikon D800 or D4, but I would truly compare the experience to that I had with D700 in 2010 in a similar setting. Since it's been more than 1.5 years ago, I don't remember all the details, so, I am not sure if the AF performance was comparable or had more missed shots. One can say that D700 is more than 2 years old. It is quite possible that D800 (and quite likely D4) exceeds K-5 IIs in the capabilities, but those are in a different category price-wise and size/weight-wise. I haven't tried the original K-5, so, I cannot compare the AF performance. But, the AF is greatly improved compared to K-7. And the low light performance is definitely greatly improved over K-7. ISO-3200 is good (exceeds ISO-1600 and almost close to ISO-800 of K-7), ISO-6400 is usable, and even ISO-12800 is acceptable at the level which is probably better than ISO-3200 of K-7. Here is just one example at ISO-3200: http://42graphy.org/misc/tango_IR00058.jpg (slight LR processing, including very slight NR). Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: Darren Addy Interestingly, Subaru has just about always had a 2% market share and I haven't heard anybody suggest that they are dying. I guess one's perspective depends a bit on what is in their garage. : ) I've tried to stay out of this, but I'm not sure Subaru's consistent 2% market share is all that germane to Pentax's declining market share. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG now up. A Revision!
Thanks Brian. This gallery and the November one loads very slow for me for some reason. Dave On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day again It seems that my dyslexia failed to notice that Pete McIntosh's submission was for the 'Open Gallery' category. Not your fault, Pete. The submission was clearly marked 'Open Gallery'. My apologies. Anyway, a quick bit of html hacking has (hopefully) corrected the mistake, although anyone looking at the gallery for a second time might need to refresh a few pages to get the sequence of images correct (the older versions might still be in your browser's cache). http://pug.komkon.org/ -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: Tom C A Nikon D800E with Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.4G SIC SW Prime Nikkor Lens and Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 SP. I still need at least one wide angle prime and probably a 24-70 zoom. I honestly haven't had the time yet to evaluate it much since I'm traveling weekly and the NEX-7 is so portable. A shame, but it's only been here for about 45 days and I've probably taken less than a hundred shots to date with it. It's one serious camera though, and that's what I'll say anecdotally. I have no reason to suspect I'll come to dislike it. I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Hello, Comments interlined below. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: They're really only competing in the APS-C arena and that's about it. The 645D is just about out of everyone's price range including mine. Was it ever relevant? The 645D is definitely relevant, just not to people like you or me. Same for the Q, which sells quite well in Japan. The K5 and derivatives may be solid cameras in their own right. Having used Pentax for 20 years I'd be lying and stupid to say they didn't make a product that delivered good results. True, but unfortunately the lack of higher end solution could be felt sometimes. Fact's are they have only about 2% of market share and predictions are it will decline. Which facts? Whose predictions? The only 2%-like figure I saw some time ago (it was even less, about 1.5%) included compacts, and since units were counted it was mostly about compacts. I couldn't care less if Pentax were to abandon compacts altogether (but, Pentax, please: if you'll do it send me an Optio WG-2, first). About declining, nope, Pentax is actually heading in the opposite direction; because they're now Pentax Ricoh, and not some fund starved Hoya division. The next year, if we'll survive the imaginary apocalypse, should be very interesting IMO. If Pentax was working on a FF body they should certainly say so, rather than hide it. As some have pointed out, the lack of a FF lens line is problematic in that regard. Remember Nikon? They said nothing about working on the D3, until they've made it, am I right? For whatever it's worth, Pentax declared they are working on full frame technologies (while insisting a market ready product is nowhere near, and not making any promise). They agree with the FF lens line issue, but I'm sure that's something that could be fixed... in a decade or so. -- Best regards, Alex Sarbu -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. As have I Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nepamuk's Tomb
Interesting. Marnie You had me digging in Wikipedia. Heh. :-) - In a message dated 12/7/2012 6:35:49 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes: This solid silver figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653628size=lg is part of this humble little solid silver tomb in the St Vitus Cathedral: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653629 John Nepamuk was a church official in the mid-14th century who sided with Rome when King Wenceslas was loyal to Avignon. Good King W had him tortured and thrown off the Charles Bridge, which was the favored method of official execution in those days. Another figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653626size=lg Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
At 10:27 AM -0500 12/8/12, David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. As have I Ditto. Plus in-body shake reduction... -- Steve Sharpe d...@eastlink.ca http://earth.delith.com/photo_gallery.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bomb sight
Yes. One big mass. Blanket bombing, I guess. Thanks, Bob, that really puts the blitz in perspective -- it really was a blitz. Marnie In a message dated 12/8/2012 12:37:49 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, p...@web-options.com writes: When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
I shoot with Pentax and Nikon DSLRs. They give good results and feel good in my hands. There two brands are similar in many ways. Each has it's qualities for different applications. I'm blessed to be able to have both. If I could only have one, either would serve well. When I teach, I always use the Pentax. Most of the students have Nikons or Canons and I prefer not to show a preference for either. I read a lot of their instruction manuals to help them find certain features and I get to handle a lot of camera brands and camera models. In the end, It's likely that I could make do with almost any of the major brands. There isn't really that much difference among them. Once the photo leaves the camera and makes a pass through Lightroom or Photoshop it would be difficult or impossible for most anyone to tell what camera was used. We split a lot of hairs here because that is a part of our hobby that we enjoy. And, the last time I looked in a mirror I don't have that many left that I can afford to keep splitting them. Enjoy whatever equipment you like and get out there and take some pictures. GS George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 9:27 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. As have I Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Stefano (messenger content)
Stefano is hands down, without argument, the wildest rider and best bike handler in Toronto. His abilities to jam with traffic and run stop signs and red lights (even with very busy cross-traffic) are legendary and toe-curling. He has been doing this for upwards of twenty years and has been so often injured he's like the Evel Knieval of messengers. He greets passing messengers on streets with a loud barking sound, leading to his nickname, Dog Boy: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/stefano.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Frankly, Pentax has been dying ever since I joined PDML in 2001. At various times over the years, on this list, a *majority* would complain and/or felt it was in serious trouble (the lack of a new camera for years, company buy outs, etc. A minority always complained.) And some would dump it at these times and migrate to another brand. Then finally Pentax would release a new camera or a few new lenses and most would be reassured and relax. For such a morbid brand, Pentax's continued existence is rather amazing. HTH, Marnie ;-) In a message dated 12/7/2012 1:46:04 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, distudio.p...@gmail.com writes: I write this because I believe, really believe, that Pentax is a dead brand. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Not your average Pirelli calendar...
Wonderfully interesting! Thanks for posting Chris. I noticed the LED panels as well--and the medium format camera! The video itself was interesting--a nicely quiet video. Fun to hear the shutter clicks and watch the model. The women are beautiful, McCurry's locations are stunning, and McCurry's attention to detail is instructive. Cheers, Christine On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:50 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely! I just finished watching this, and it's _well_ worth it. McCurry brings it. Fir the studio/lighting enthusiasts: did you notice that they use LED panels exclusively? Not a flash or strobe in sight. From 160-LED to 1000, or maybe even 2000-LED panels with battery packs. Sometimes gelled. A lot of human stands and gobos too. We should all be so lucky to have a dozen helpers on our shoots. :-) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net wrote: ...Steve McCurry's version. Long, but well worth it in my opinion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=-WdJeusmEdo Chris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com On 8 December 2012 17:39, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: This is not to say you can't go out and buy a Pentax system today and produce great images you'll be happy with. You can. It all depends where you're at, what you want, and what you can or are willing to spend. That's different for each of us. I'm willing to spend it's just that I can't afford it. :) LOL. Plus you need a bit more than I because of needing a backup body identical to the first... or do you? Not spending your money for you... what if you bought one body and lens complement, and then waited until the next upgrade? Your original body could become the backup. Just trying to help. :) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stefano (messenger content)
Nice. Does he ever bike using his hands? Marnie ;-) In a message dated 12/8/2012 8:11:05 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: Stefano is hands down, without argument, the wildest rider and best bike handler in Toronto. His abilities to jam with traffic and run stop signs and red lights (even with very busy cross-traffic) are legendary and toe-curling. He has been doing this for upwards of twenty years and has been so often injured he's like the Evel Knieval of messengers. He greets passing messengers on streets with a loud barking sound, leading to his nickname, Dog Boy: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/stefano.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Bomb sight
A high school history teacher of mine was from London. He enlisted during the War and went off to some camp or other for training and basically waited there for D-day. While he was off doing this the Battle of Britain started. His first leave he headed into London to visit his mum and dad at their flat. As he tells the story, he put on his best army duds, all spit-and-polish, set to be welcomed as the Brave Soldier Boy. First evening he's home a V1 buzz bomb flies over. He literally dives under the kitchen table as his mother calmly says, Oh, don't worry Ian, that one's not even close. As my old teacher relates it, at that moment he knew who was really fighting the war. Don't even remember what history he taught in that course, that was what I took away from it. Can't imagine what life would have been like during the Blitz (or the bombing of Madrid, Hamburg, Tokyo, Hanoi, Stalingrad, Dresden, Manchester, etc, etc, etc...). cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: December 8, 2012 12/8/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Bomb sight This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. I agree John, but I;m willing to go a bit lower. They they should be competing at the minimum, at the top of the APS-C arena. That's now in the 24 MP range and has been for approximately a year. If one walked into an establishment and saw a 24 MP kit for $999 and a 16 MP kit for $999, and one was a name you instantly recognized and you knew people that had that brand, and the other ones was less recognizable and lower spec'd based upon the advertising on the side of the box, which one will likely sell more? You have to sell cameras, to make money, to make more cameras. It's Business 101. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO It looks like a keeper
Wow! Distortion looks impressively low! Great shots, too. Love View. Art or corporate logo? cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: December 7, 2012 12/7/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO It looks like a keeper Hi Team, Well about 4 months ago I purchased a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM lens based on the reports of some PDMLers here. The Pentax offerings were just way too costly for the specs and didn't offer the speed or zoom range that I really needed in an Ultra-wide zoom. The Sigma turns out to be what was suggested, a very well built and capable lens as have been the other new Sigma zooms that I have recently purchased. Following is a small sample of images that were shot with this lens since it was purchased: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8z81twcbbjvaykw/IWj4gZ4EAk Enjoy ;) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Hello, Comments interlined below. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: They're really only competing in the APS-C arena and that's about it. The 645D is just about out of everyone's price range including mine. Was it ever relevant? The 645D is definitely relevant, just not to people like you or me. Same for the Q, which sells quite well in Japan. The question is are those cameras and others, in toto, making money for Pentax or Pentax Ricoh? The K5 and derivatives may be solid cameras in their own right. Having used Pentax for 20 years I'd be lying and stupid to say they didn't make a product that delivered good results. True, but unfortunately the lack of higher end solution could be felt sometimes. We agree there. :) Fact's are they have only about 2% of market share and predictions are it will decline. Which facts? Whose predictions? The only 2%-like figure I saw some time ago (it was even less, about 1.5%) included compacts, and since units were counted it was mostly about compacts. I couldn't care less if Pentax were to abandon compacts altogether (but, Pentax, please: if you'll do it send me an Optio WG-2, first). The low end of the PS compact market is dying due to camera phones. How can you sell a camera if they're essentially being given away with cell phones to people who largely find that quality 'good enough'? About declining, nope, Pentax is actually heading in the opposite direction; because they're now Pentax Ricoh, and not some fund starved Hoya division. The next year, if we'll survive the imaginary apocalypse, should be very interesting IMO. I'm not as sure about that. I remember the same high hopes expressed both when they partnered with Samsung and when Hoya acquired them. If Pentax was working on a FF body they should certainly say so, rather than hide it. As some have pointed out, the lack of a FF lens line is problematic in that regard. Remember Nikon? They said nothing about working on the D3, until they've made it, am I right? I wasn't paying attention to Nikon back then, but I'll grant that you are. Now however a FF body is more of an expectation as opposed to a surprise. For whatever it's worth, Pentax declared they are working on full frame technologies (while insisting a market ready product is nowhere near, and not making any promise). They agree with the FF lens line issue, but I'm sure that's something that could be fixed... in a decade or so. Best regards, Alex Sarbu The fact that they realize that's an issue yet are unable to deliver when major competitors have been for quite some time may be the symptom of a problem, not a reason for confidence, IMO. Really though, the point of my original post was not to denigrate Pentax it was to say one doesn't need to be necessarily constrained by brand. Obviously constraints differ from person to person. (I feel like I should say I am woman, hear me roar at this point, but I'll refrain from saying anything that ridiculous) Cheers. :) Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bomb sight
Wow! I understand 'Bomber Harris' now. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 2:37 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On 12/8/2012 8:08 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Darren Addy Interestingly, Subaru has just about always had a 2% market share and I haven't heard anybody suggest that they are dying. I guess one's perspective depends a bit on what is in their garage. : ) I've tried to stay out of this, but I'm not sure Subaru's consistent 2% market share is all that germane to Pentax's declining market share. Pentax seems to care a lot more about it's home market share than it's international market share, which if it keeps them alive to build DSLR bodies that will natively use my lenses is good enough for me. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com I shoot with Pentax and Nikon DSLRs. They give good results and feel good in my hands. There two brands are similar in many ways. Each has it's qualities for different applications. I'm blessed to be able to have both. If I could only have one, either would serve well. I wish lenses attached/detached by turning in the same direction on both systems. :) When I teach, I always use the Pentax. Most of the students have Nikons or Canons and I prefer not to show a preference for either. I read a lot of their instruction manuals to help them find certain features and I get to handle a lot of camera brands and camera models. I've tried to help beginners at work or in the field find a setting on their lower-end N's and C's. There's my own lack of familiarity of course, but I do think Pentax is very good ergonomically in this regard. There's also a wide spread perception that buying an expensive DSLR will instantly give you the kind of images you see in the adverts and marketing material. Hah. In the end, It's likely that I could make do with almost any of the major brands. There isn't really that much difference among them. Once the photo leaves the camera and makes a pass through Lightroom or Photoshop it would be difficult or impossible for most anyone to tell what camera was used. Agreed, especially at the small size being viewed and with what one may consider optimal lighting. We used to make do with film, for goodness sake! I sense the digital revolution has made us into bigger prima donnas then before, myself included. We expect a lot now and we used to expect a little. We split a lot of hairs here because that is a part of our hobby that we enjoy. And, the last time I looked in a mirror I don't have that many left that I can afford to keep splitting them. Enjoy whatever equipment you like and get out there and take some pictures. GS Same for my hair and I can't agree more. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 12/8/2012 8:45 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Tom C A Nikon D800E with Nikon AF-S 50mm f/1.4G SIC SW Prime Nikkor Lens and Tamron AF 70-300mm f/4.0-5.6 SP. I still need at least one wide angle prime and probably a 24-70 zoom. I honestly haven't had the time yet to evaluate it much since I'm traveling weekly and the NEX-7 is so portable. A shame, but it's only been here for about 45 days and I've probably taken less than a hundred shots to date with it. It's one serious camera though, and that's what I'll say anecdotally. I have no reason to suspect I'll come to dislike it. I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. I'm pretty sure that the D600 is one of the reasons that Pentax has decided that whatever they showed people like Tanya didn't get released this year. Just as I'm pretty sure that the MZ-D was not released in part due to the Kodak DCS 14n and Canon 1Ds being announced in 2001, well that and the execrable performance of the 6mp Philips digital sensor. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On 12/8/2012 11:35 AM, Tom C wrote: From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. I agree John, but I;m willing to go a bit lower. They they should be competing at the minimum, at the top of the APS-C arena. That's now in the 24 MP range and has been for approximately a year. If one walked into an establishment and saw a 24 MP kit for $999 and a 16 MP kit for $999, and one was a name you instantly recognized and you knew people that had that brand, and the other ones was less recognizable and lower spec'd based upon the advertising on the side of the box, which one will likely sell more? You have to sell cameras, to make money, to make more cameras. It's Business 101. Tom C. and where would you actually see Pentax in a store? -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stefano (messenger content)
Really nice action shot, Frank. This has turned out to be a great series. I look forward to more messenger images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:10 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Stefano is hands down, without argument, the wildest rider and best bike handler in Toronto. His abilities to jam with traffic and run stop signs and red lights (even with very busy cross-traffic) are legendary and toe-curling. He has been doing this for upwards of twenty years and has been so often injured he's like the Evel Knieval of messengers. He greets passing messengers on streets with a loud barking sound, leading to his nickname, Dog Boy: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/stefano.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
Really fine images there! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! Distortion looks impressively low! Great shots, too. Love View. Art or corporate logo? cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Sent: December 7, 2012 12/7/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO It looks like a keeper Hi Team, Well about 4 months ago I purchased a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM lens based on the reports of some PDMLers here. The Pentax offerings were just way too costly for the specs and didn't offer the speed or zoom range that I really needed in an Ultra-wide zoom. The Sigma turns out to be what was suggested, a very well built and capable lens as have been the other new Sigma zooms that I have recently purchased. Following is a small sample of images that were shot with this lens since it was purchased: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8z81twcbbjvaykw/IWj4gZ4EAk Enjoy ;) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - today I learned about onesies
That is a prize portfolio of people pictures! That Panda is a real hoot! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: One Direction has a pop up shop, popped up today. Just as well the end of the world is coming. Fully zipped up 1D Onesies are a thing now. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12/Onesies/index.html The DA40mm XS is a lovely idea, but still a challenging lens to use, even on a K-5. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - today I learned about onesies
Do you think the fully-zipped onesies are a cause or an effect vis-a-vis the end of the world? Puts me in mind of Zaphod Beeblebroxes Peril Sensitive Sunglasses. Great shots! On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: One Direction has a pop up shop, popped up today. Just as well the end of the world is coming. Fully zipped up 1D Onesies are a thing now. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12/Onesies/index.html The DA40mm XS is a lovely idea, but still a challenging lens to use, even on a K-5. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
Rob, there are some gorgeous photos there, none of which I recall having been a PESO. The concert pix are good enough to have made my tinnitus act up... Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 10:46 PM Subject: GESO It looks like a keeper Hi Team, Well about 4 months ago I purchased a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM lens based on the reports of some PDMLers here. The Pentax offerings were just way too costly for the specs and didn't offer the speed or zoom range that I really needed in an Ultra-wide zoom. The Sigma turns out to be what was suggested, a very well built and capable lens as have been the other new Sigma zooms that I have recently purchased. Following is a small sample of images that were shot with this lens since it was purchased: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8z81twcbbjvaykw/IWj4gZ4EAk Enjoy ;) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - today I learned about onesies
Maybe I'm just odd, but I was wondering if they sold factory seconds with the zipper installed in reverse and who would buy them... On 12/8/2012 2:05 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Do you think the fully-zipped onesies are a cause or an effect vis-a-vis the end of the world? Puts me in mind of Zaphod Beeblebroxes Peril Sensitive Sunglasses. Great shots! On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: One Direction has a pop up shop, popped up today. Just as well the end of the world is coming. Fully zipped up 1D Onesies are a thing now. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12/Onesies/index.html The DA40mm XS is a lovely idea, but still a challenging lens to use, even on a K-5. -- der...@iinet.net.au http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
Great stuff, Rob. That does indeed look like an excellent lens find. Does the HSM focusing work well for you? On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Team, Well about 4 months ago I purchased a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM lens based on the reports of some PDMLers here. The Pentax offerings were just way too costly for the specs and didn't offer the speed or zoom range that I really needed in an Ultra-wide zoom. The Sigma turns out to be what was suggested, a very well built and capable lens as have been the other new Sigma zooms that I have recently purchased. Following is a small sample of images that were shot with this lens since it was purchased: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8z81twcbbjvaykw/IWj4gZ4EAk Enjoy ;) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Stefano (messenger content)
He looks like he's either executing a complicated dance move or sending a report via his Dick Tracy wristwatch. I like it! On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 11:10 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Stefano is hands down, without argument, the wildest rider and best bike handler in Toronto. His abilities to jam with traffic and run stop signs and red lights (even with very busy cross-traffic) are legendary and toe-curling. He has been doing this for upwards of twenty years and has been so often injured he's like the Evel Knieval of messengers. He greets passing messengers on streets with a loud barking sound, leading to his nickname, Dog Boy: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/stefano.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nepamuk's Tomb
Well rendered, Rick. Fine detail and colour. Interesting history too. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: This solid silver figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653628size=lg is part of this humble little solid silver tomb in the St Vitus Cathedral: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653629 John Nepamuk was a church official in the mid-14th century who sided with Rome when King Wenceslas was loyal to Avignon. Good King W had him tortured and thrown off the Charles Bridge, which was the favored method of official execution in those days. Another figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653626size=lg Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Hello, again, On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Hello, Comments interlined below. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: They're really only competing in the APS-C arena and that's about it. The 645D is just about out of everyone's price range including mine. Was it ever relevant? The 645D is definitely relevant, just not to people like you or me. Same for the Q, which sells quite well in Japan. The question is are those cameras and others, in toto, making money for Pentax or Pentax Ricoh? Probably, I can't say I know. The 645D is, afaik, the best selling digital medium format camera (at least in Japan, where the information is more freely available) - and they have big plans for it. I would be surprised if the Q weren't making a profit; after all, it shouldn't cost much more to build than a high end compact. It's aggressively marketed in Japan, and the Japanese people seems to like it - at a time it was #1 in bcnranking.jp's top selling ILCs. The K5 and derivatives may be solid cameras in their own right. Having used Pentax for 20 years I'd be lying and stupid to say they didn't make a product that delivered good results. True, but unfortunately the lack of higher end solution could be felt sometimes. We agree there. :) Yep, we definitely do. Fact's are they have only about 2% of market share and predictions are it will decline. Which facts? Whose predictions? The only 2%-like figure I saw some time ago (it was even less, about 1.5%) included compacts, and since units were counted it was mostly about compacts. I couldn't care less if Pentax were to abandon compacts altogether (but, Pentax, please: if you'll do it send me an Optio WG-2, first). The low end of the PS compact market is dying due to camera phones. How can you sell a camera if they're essentially being given away with cell phones to people who largely find that quality 'good enough'? Then we agree those total market share figures aren't really relevant. Even the DSLR market share is relevant only as a starting point. About declining, nope, Pentax is actually heading in the opposite direction; because they're now Pentax Ricoh, and not some fund starved Hoya division. The next year, if we'll survive the imaginary apocalypse, should be very interesting IMO. I'm not as sure about that. I remember the same high hopes expressed both when they partnered with Samsung and when Hoya acquired them. But I am, at least about their intentions. Samsung did nothing, other than providing an average sensor and rebadging some Pentax products (while they were developing their own system, behind their partner's back). I remember different things about the Hoya hostile takeover. I remember a prolonged scandal, when the Pentax board didn't accept the merger plan proposed by Pentax and Hoya's CEOs - which ended when Pentax was basically forced to accept the buyout (due to shareholders' pressure). I remember how Hoya actually wanted the medical division, but had to accept the Imaging Business division as well. OTOH, Ricoh wanted Pentax Imaging Systems; they founded a separate company, Pentax Ricoh Imaging Company - yes, Pentax Ricoh, in this specific order; and they entrusted to the newly founded company their own camera division. Now everywhere I can hear them talking about stuff like growth or doubling the sales in 2013. I'm hearing they hired back RD engineers, to make up for those fired by Hoya. They have 2-years roadmaps totaling 8 K-mount lenses + 1 TC, 4 645D ones and 3 for Q; and, most important, they're on track with the execution. If Pentax was working on a FF body they should certainly say so, rather than hide it. As some have pointed out, the lack of a FF lens line is problematic in that regard. Remember Nikon? They said nothing about working on the D3, until they've made it, am I right? I wasn't paying attention to Nikon back then, but I'll grant that you are. Now however a FF body is more of an expectation as opposed to a surprise. For whatever it's worth, Pentax declared they are working on full frame technologies (while insisting a market ready product is nowhere near, and not making any promise). They agree with the FF lens line issue, but I'm sure that's something that could be fixed... in a decade or so. Best regards, Alex Sarbu The fact that they realize that's an issue yet are unable to deliver when major competitors have been for quite some time may be the symptom of a problem, not a reason for confidence, IMO. Which Pentax was unable to deliver (a full frame system, I presume)? The old Pentax Corporation, bought out by Hoya? Pentax, as a Hoya division? Or the 14 months old Pentax Ricoh? Really though, the point of my original post was not to denigrate Pentax it was to say one doesn't need to be necessarily constrained by brand. Obviously constraints differ
Re: PESO - S
Thanks kindly, Derby. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: I'm late, and lots of comments already, but...so lovely, especially the transition of the tones to white. On 5/12/2012 1:00 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: I'm visiting my neglected to-do list. One from last March. http://www.flickr.com/bruce_m_walker/8243508238/lightbox/ K20D, DA* 50-135mm/2.8 @ 95mm/f:7.1, 1/125th, ISO 100. Lr 4.2, Ps CS5, Imagenomics Portraiture, Nik Silver Efex Pro 2. Comments welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com: Even though my body is several generations old it does what I need it to do. Pleased to hear it! Oh.. and MARK!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ It is rarely the limiting factor in my photos not turning out (other than focal length limitations, but I could no more afford a 600mm Nikon than I could a Pentax - indeed I'm sure a Pentax 600 is far more affordable). If I had money I would not switch systems. I might buy a Fuji x100 or x1 Pro, or were I flush with funds might buy an M9, but those would supplement my dslr, not replace. If I had money I would likely buy the current Pentax flagship body, supplement my lens collection, but I'd stick with Pentax, not out of loyalty, just because I don't feel a need to switch. Sometimes it feels like people - oh never mind. I'm just going to enjoy taking pictures and stop worrying... :-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 8, 2012 12/8/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Cameras and Photography Frankly, Pentax has been dying ever since I joined PDML in 2001. At various times over the years, on this list, a *majority* would complain and/or felt it was in serious trouble (the lack of a new camera for years, company buy outs, etc. A minority always complained.) And some would dump it at these times and migrate to another brand. Then finally Pentax would release a new camera or a few new lenses and most would be reassured and relax. For such a morbid brand, Pentax's continued existence is rather amazing. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG now up. A Revision!
Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Thanks Brian. This gallery and the November one loads very slow for me for some reason. Anyone else seeing this? The galleries load reasonably quickly for me. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day again It seems that my dyslexia failed to notice that Pete McIntosh's submission was for the 'Open Gallery' category. Not your fault, Pete. The submission was clearly marked 'Open Gallery'. My apologies. Anyway, a quick bit of html hacking has (hopefully) corrected the mistake, although anyone looking at the gallery for a second time might need to refresh a few pages to get the sequence of images correct (the older versions might still be in your browser's cache). http://pug.komkon.org/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - today I learned about onesies
Quoting P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Maybe I'm just odd... Sorry - can't resist. MARK!! Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ , but I was wondering if they sold factory seconds with the zipper installed in reverse and who would buy them... On 12/8/2012 2:05 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Do you think the fully-zipped onesies are a cause or an effect vis-a-vis the end of the world? Puts me in mind of Zaphod Beeblebroxes Peril Sensitive Sunglasses. Great shots! On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:14 AM, Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: One Direction has a pop up shop, popped up today. Just as well the end of the world is coming. Fully zipped up 1D Onesies are a thing now. http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/12/12/Onesies/index.html The DA40mm XS is a lovely idea, but still a challenging lens to use, even on a K-5. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Nepamuk's Tomb
Thanks, Bruce. It would be dazzling if all the silver were polished; but the cost of polishing would be dazzling, too. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: Re: PESO - Nepamuk's Tomb Well rendered, Rick. Fine detail and colour. Interesting history too. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: This solid silver figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653628size=lg is part of this humble little solid silver tomb in the St Vitus Cathedral: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653629 John Nepamuk was a church official in the mid-14th century who sided with Rome when King Wenceslas was loyal to Avignon. Good King W had him tortured and thrown off the Charles Bridge, which was the favored method of official execution in those days. Another figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653626size=lg Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Bomb sight
From: Bob W This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. It would be interesting if they could expand it to cover other areas of the country. I know London wasn't the only place bombed. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bomb sight
Good heavens. When we lived in London 30 years ago I did a lot of reading about the Battle of Britain, and met a lot of people who were there. This is still astonishing. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 3:37 AM Subject: OT: Bomb sight This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: December PUG now up. A Revision!
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org Subject: Re: December PUG now up. A Revision! Quoting David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Thanks Brian. This gallery and the November one loads very slow for me for some reason. Anyone else seeing this? Fine here. The galleries load reasonably quickly for me. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: G'day again It seems that my dyslexia failed to notice that Pete McIntosh's submission was for the 'Open Gallery' category. Not your fault, Pete. The submission was clearly marked 'Open Gallery'. My apologies. Anyway, a quick bit of html hacking has (hopefully) corrected the mistake, although anyone looking at the gallery for a second time might need to refresh a few pages to get the sequence of images correct (the older versions might still be in your browser's cache). http://pug.komkon.org/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
On 9 December 2012 03:24, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: LOL. Plus you need a bit more than I because of needing a backup body identical to the first... or do you? Not spending your money for you... what if you bought one body and lens complement, and then waited until the next upgrade? Your original body could become the backup. Just trying to help. :) LOL, thanks Tom! Yes preferentially I would want two of the same bodies, it just makes switching cameras fast mid-shoot so much less cumbersome. I think that the price differential between say a D600 and D800 wouldn't be sufficient for me to justify enduring different interfaces so I would probably need to buy two new bodies outright but I need to eat and pay certain bills that keep a roof over my head as a priority. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 8 December 2012 15:14, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Rob, Nice pictures and quite a recommendation, coming from you. The last recommendation I remember is the Voightlander 125/2.5, a great lens. HI Bob, Thanks, I certainly don't mind recommending something that I find useful and this lens was definitely something that has returned to me scope that has been missing from my kit since the APS DSLRs came along. I sold my old A15/3.5 years ago as it was pretty useless on the DSLRs, I still have my A16/2.8 and will keep it in the remote hope of a K mount FF DSLR but I do miss what those two lenses could do on a film body. So now I'm half way there. WRT the Voightlander that lens is one of the reasons that I will consider Nikon as I bought one in Nikon mount some years ago in anticipation, glad too as they are now $3500 used. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 03:36, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! Distortion looks impressively low! Great shots, too. Love View. Art or corporate logo? Thanks Frank, there is some distortion but yeah for the most part it's practically no problem, it's fast too. Art, Sculptures by the Sea, Sydney 2012 :) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - The Gang
In downtown Birmingham a couple of weeks ago. The kid in the purple stocking cap asked me to take their picture. Lots of joy here: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655718size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: David J Brooks On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. As have I Dave I do need to go back and really go through the DPReview article thoroughly. There was one thing that I didn't care much for (other than the lack of in camera shake reduction not having a K-AF lens mount). I think maybe the auto-bracketing. My K-20D allows a 5-shot bracket it looks like the D600 only offers a 3-shot bracket. I do prefer Pentax's mode dial (if that's what it's called) to the one shown in the images of the D600 on DPReview. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 06:13, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote: Rob, there are some gorgeous photos there, none of which I recall having been a PESO. Hi Rick, Thanks, you are correct, not many of my recent images have made it to the list unfortunately, I've been busy or slack or The concert pix are good enough to have made my tinnitus act up Yes, I have some hi-fi attenuating earplugs standard kit in my camera case, a necessity! Cheers, Rob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 05:32, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Really fine images there! Thanks Dan ;) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: Steve Sharpe At 10:27 AM -0500 12/8/12, David J Brooks wrote: On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:45 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. As have I Ditto. Plus in-body shake reduction... ... and a (non crippled) KAf bayonet mount. Figured out the one thing about the D600 that I found disappointing. AE Bracketing is max 3 frames. My K20D (and I think the K-7, K-5) allows 5 frames. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Stefano (messenger content)
But some day he's going to run one stop sign or red light too many get run over and the cycling community will be all up in arms about careless drivers not looking out for bikes. From: knarftheriault Stefano is hands down, without argument, the wildest rider and best bike handler in Toronto. His abilities to jam with traffic and run stop signs and red lights (even with very busy cross-traffic) are legendary and toe-curling. He has been doing this for upwards of twenty years and has been so often injured he's like the Evel Knieval of messengers. He greets passing messengers on streets with a loud barking sound, leading to his nickname, Dog Boy: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/stefano.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 06:27, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Great stuff, Rob. That does indeed look like an excellent lens find. Does the HSM focusing work well for you? Hi Bruce, Thanks, I'm impressed, I've been out a few times where it's been my primary lens for the day, I forgot how much I missed having an ultra-wide in my arsenal. The focus seems OK but I haven't been too critical as the DOF is so deep at normal shooting distances, I will eventually get a bit more critical with it and I'll report any anomalies. Thankfully it's not like my Sigma 14/2.8 which can't focus when the aperture is set above f5 ;( Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Maybe?
A coffee shop pic. DA*50-135, ISO 3200 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655754size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: Tom C From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Hello, Comments interlined below. On Fri, Dec 7, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: They're really only competing in the APS-C arena and that's about it. The 645D is just about out of everyone's price range including mine. Was it ever relevant? The 645D is definitely relevant, just not to people like you or me. Same for the Q, which sells quite well in Japan. The question is are those cameras and others, in toto, making money for Pentax or Pentax Ricoh? Actually, for me, the question is Does Pentax make a camera I want to buy? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Last Warrior
I certainly did! I may be an peacenik and harsh critic of the militaty-industrial complex but I have no quarrel with those who sacrificed for our country. I thanked him and he humbly accepted. I also chatted with his son who told me that sadly his father doesn't receive much thanks from today's youth. I guess WWII is just too remote in time and today's wars are too remote geographically to have an impact on kids of today. Thanks to everyone else who looked and commented. Glad you enjoyed. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: kwal...@peoplepc.com Sent: December 6, 2012 12/6/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - The Last Warrior I sure hope you thanked him for his, dedication, service sacrifice. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML@pdml.net Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 10:41 PM Subject: PESO - The Last Warrior Damn! I went to submit this for December pug but was too late. That's what I get for procrastinating. So now it's a peso. New Toronto has a small Legion. There are only a handful of WWII vets left, and Tom is the last who is able to attend Remembrance Day services. He joined the Royal Canadian Navy as a teenager. Lovely, gentle man: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2012/12/the-last-warrior.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Maybe?
Nice portrait; I like the intensity you caught in her face and posture. I thought you said it was a coffee shop, but that looks like a Starbucks cup. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:31 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: A coffee shop pic. DA*50-135, ISO 3200 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655754size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Gang
That is a really engaging group portrait. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: In downtown Birmingham a couple of weeks ago. The kid in the purple stocking cap asked me to take their picture. Lots of joy here: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655718size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: P. J. Alling On 12/8/2012 11:35 AM, Tom C wrote: From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com I've been looking at the Nikon D600 off and on since it was announced. Not looking to switch brands, but it provides a minimum standard of value performance Pentax should meet or exceed. I agree John, but I;m willing to go a bit lower. They they should be competing at the minimum, at the top of the APS-C arena. That's now in the 24 MP range and has been for approximately a year. If one walked into an establishment and saw a 24 MP kit for $999 and a 16 MP kit for $999, and one was a name you instantly recognized and you knew people that had that brand, and the other ones was less recognizable and lower spec'd based upon the advertising on the side of the box, which one will likely sell more? You have to sell cameras, to make money, to make more cameras. It's Business 101. Tom C. and where would you actually see Pentax in a store? BH actually has a brick mortar store, where I think they may have Pentax in stock. Perhaps Adorama has one too. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Cameras and Photography
From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com Now everywhere I can hear them talking about stuff like growth or doubling the sales in 2013. I'm hearing they hired back RD engineers, to make up for those fired by Hoya. They have 2-years roadmaps totaling 8 K-mount lenses + 1 TC, 4 645D ones and 3 for Q; and, most important, they're on track with the execution. Alex, respectfully, I don't have that kind of insider information on Pentax, so where do you obtain it? If their road map doesn't contain a 24 MP APS-C body, a FF body and lenses, then they're missing the boat. I'm sure the market for either of those two cameras would dwarf the market for a 645D or a Q. Which Pentax was unable to deliver (a full frame system, I presume)? The old Pentax Corporation, bought out by Hoya? Pentax, as a Hoya division? Or the 14 months old Pentax Ricoh? All of them including the one that calls itself Pentax this time. The fact that they're now on their third business partner (Samsung, Hoya, Ricoh) cannot be legitimately used as an excuse for their current position. It's not a cause, it's an effect, a symptom of failings and wrong turns long before now, some being repeated, and still being felt. The market leaders did not obtain their positions by doing things the wrong way. The underdogs did not arrive at their positions by doing things the right way. Of course they can change. Even at this date, it's hard to find a Pentax on display in any major retail outlet (i.e. Big Boxes, warehouse clubs, or department stores) in the US, or advertising of any kind. Driving through Hartford, CT last week I saw a huge billboard advertising the Canon T4i. Maybe Ricoh will turn things around. I can't predict the future. We only have so many years on this planet, and some aren't willing to wait and see. I'm inclined to think, as some have said, they'll be around for a good while, and little will change. For some that is perfectly fine. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Gang
Good shot well posed and in good light. Did they ever see it? Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: PESO - The Gang In downtown Birmingham a couple of weeks ago. The kid in the purple stocking cap asked me to take their picture. Lots of joy here: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655718size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Gang
On Dec 8, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Good shot well posed and in good light. Did they ever see it? I showed it to them on the camera. They wanted a copy but…. Paul Jack - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:09 PM Subject: PESO - The Gang In downtown Birmingham a couple of weeks ago. The kid in the purple stocking cap asked me to take their picture. Lots of joy here: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655718size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Stefano (messenger content)
Yeah, we're a whiny lot... ;-) cheers, frank PS: Seriously, there are enough serious accidents where the motor vehicle is at fault to keep us busy. --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: December 8, 2012 12/8/12 To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Stefano (messenger content) But some day he's going to run one stop sign or red light too many get run over and the cycling community will be all up in arms about careless drivers not looking out for bikes. From: knarftheriault Stefano is hands down, without argument, the wildest rider and best bike handler in Toronto. His abilities to jam with traffic and run stop signs and red lights (even with very busy cross-traffic) are legendary and toe-curling. He has been doing this for upwards of twenty years and has been so often injured he's like the Evel Knieval of messengers. He greets passing messengers on streets with a loud barking sound, leading to his nickname, Dog Boy: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/stefano.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Hi Team, Well about 4 months ago I purchased a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM lens based on the reports of some PDMLers here. The Pentax offerings were just way too costly for the specs and didn't offer the speed or zoom range that I really needed in an Ultra-wide zoom. The Sigma turns out to be what was suggested, a very well built and capable lens as have been the other new Sigma zooms that I have recently purchased. Following is a small sample of images that were shot with this lens since it was purchased: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8z81twcbbjvaykw/IWj4gZ4EAk Enjoy ;) #4 and #20 are real standouts among other nice ones Rob. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Old Crow and Pepsi
They'd have to be stark raven mad. http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 3:37 PM Subject: PESO Old Crow and Pepsi Hey Walt, Any of your customers ever ask for an Old Crow with Pepsi? http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/8186126036/in/set-72157632010905830 -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Bomb sight
Zooming out makes one wonder how any part of London survived! Interesting site Bob, thanks. As a kid growing up in Essex, Sussex and then Portsmouth, bomb sites and the effects of war were a part of my life. In Essex, a bomber dumped it's load only a mile from where my grandparents lived, after being damaged. In Sussex, I remember gawping at the wreckage of a German bomber which had been shot down by the anti-aircraft battery stationed in the field behind my house. In Portsmouth, my (other) grandmother was bombed out in 1942, and then rented a house in which she lived for the next 30 years (it's now owned by her daughter), and the bomb site around the corner from my parent's place was our playground. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2012 6:38 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: OT: Bomb sight This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:GESO It looks like a keeper
Quite a nice little gallery Rob. I was taken with how many of your photos were vertical. Cropped or shot that way? I have the same lens and use it a lot but I have never been really happy with verticals shot that way. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 9 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 14:46:42 +1100 From: Rob Studdertdistudio.p...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO It looks like a keeper Message-ID: CAD8AEd7LfgEorx6BewqtonP=ovjb-8ktvm59xk6e61kpeuw...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Team, Well about 4 months ago I purchased a Sigma 10-20mm f/3.5 EX DC HSM lens based on the reports of some PDMLers here. The Pentax offerings were just way too costly for the specs and didn't offer the speed or zoom range that I really needed in an Ultra-wide zoom. The Sigma turns out to be what was suggested, a very well built and capable lens as have been the other new Sigma zooms that I have recently purchased. Following is a small sample of images that were shot with this lens since it was purchased: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8z81twcbbjvaykw/IWj4gZ4EAk Enjoy;) Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudi -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 09:47, Tom C caka...@gmail.com wrote: #4 and #20 are real standouts among other nice ones Rob. Thanks Tom, interesting choices :) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re:PESO - Nepamuk's Tomb
Nice job of capturing their surface. I really wish I could reach out touch them. Which would doubtless get me hanged I know. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2012 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) From: Rick Womerrwomer1...@yahoo.com To: Pentax Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Nepamuk's Tomb Message-ID: 1354934145.37119.yahoomail...@web121806.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 This solid silver figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653628size=lg is part of this humble little solid silver tomb in the St Vitus Cathedral: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653629 John Nepamuk was a church official in the mid-14th century who sided with Rome when King Wenceslas was loyal to Avignon.? Good King W had him tortured and thrown off the Charles Bridge, which was the favored method of official execution in those days. Another figure: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16653626size=lg Comments appreciated! Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Bomb sight
When I visited England and talked to people about various sites that had markers commemorating bombed site, I was a bit taken aback at how vivid and visceral their memories were even though they were young children at the time. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:37:36 - From: Bob Wp...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Bomb sight Message-ID: 03a501cdd51f$48de8ee0$da9baca0$@com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO It looks like a keeper
On 9 December 2012 10:23, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Quite a nice little gallery Rob. I was taken with how many of your photos were vertical. Cropped or shot that way? I have the same lens and use it a lot but I have never been really happy with verticals shot that way. Hi Don, Thanks for the feedback. I don't think that any were cropped in that set. I generally don't crop, all the images in that set were all produced from in camera jpgs and came straight out of Picasa with at most some contrast correction. Most of my images are shot vertical these days, it would generally average out to about 5 verticals to one horizontal shot independent of lens I expect. Cheers, -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT: Bomb sight
Tony Robinson (Blackadder, Time Team) made some programmes a while ago about the effects of the blitz, and even blew up some real bombs on real streets to demonstrate. This trailer gives you an idea: http://www.francetudiant.com/videos/blitz-street-Lvwdp3IL3HQ Imagine that for each of the blobs in the map, night after night. B From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Rick Womer Good heavens. When we lived in London 30 years ago I did a lot of reading about the Battle of Britain, and met a lot of people who were there. This is still astonishing. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: Bob W p...@web-options.com To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 3:37 AM Subject: OT: Bomb sight This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
GESO Reds
My first gallery here.not all reds but they are all part of something red. These were taken with a WG2 today. The only post porcessing was some cropping and straightening. http://hobbies.psgv.ca/wp-content/wp-hive/hobbies.psgv.ca/LR4/photos/reds/ Yes, I know the link is weird, I'll work on that RSN :-) Gerrit -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - The Gang
Very charming Paul. Next time write more text I almost scrolled right by it. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 7 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:09:17 -0500 From: Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - The Gang Message-ID:f2d435e7-0066-4411-a179-398f717a2...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In downtown Birmingham a couple of weeks ago. The kid in the purple stocking cap asked me to take their picture. Lots of joy here: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655718size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Maybe?
Well you are having a good posting day. Great technically of course like always, but I also like the tension in the pose you captured. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 14 Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 17:31:44 -0500 From: Paul Stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Maybe? Message-ID:c6b1014f-d769-4e8e-89fb-1056fa765...@comcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii A coffee shop pic. DA*50-135, ISO 3200 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16655754size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Bomb sight
A view from the other side of the channel: When I was five-six, (1950) my family finished up a three-year stint in Northern Greece and headed back to the States. A three-week tour through Europe, then a boat back home. One of my vivid memories from that trip was seeing block after block of damaged buildings in Germany and asking my father what had happened to them. They were bombed during the war and haven't been able to rebuild yet. Many years later, my major advisor from graduate school published a personal memoir of sorts [into the Fire by Siegfried Streufert]. His father was one of the anti-Nazi senators who went back home to Northern Germany in the mid 1930's (?) and was then part of the resistance. Siegfried tells of what it was like as a child living under the threat of bombers, and then later the frustration that the Allied troops didn't understand that many Germans saw them as liberators, not as conquerors. Bob, the graphic you shared really brings back those stories and is a reminder that this wasn't a sometimes thing, but that everyone was at risk in every neighborhood for months and months and months. A horrible way to live and a testament to universal stupidity. stan On Dec 8, 2012, at 6:06 PM, John Coyle wrote: Zooming out makes one wonder how any part of London survived! Interesting site Bob, thanks. As a kid growing up in Essex, Sussex and then Portsmouth, bomb sites and the effects of war were a part of my life. In Essex, a bomber dumped it's load only a mile from where my grandparents lived, after being damaged. In Sussex, I remember gawping at the wreckage of a German bomber which had been shot down by the anti-aircraft battery stationed in the field behind my house. In Portsmouth, my (other) grandmother was bombed out in 1942, and then rented a house in which she lived for the next 30 years (it's now owned by her daughter), and the bomb site around the corner from my parent's place was our playground. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bob W Sent: Saturday, 8 December 2012 6:38 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' Subject: OT: Bomb sight This is an interesting website which shows you where all the bombs landed in London during the blitz. The link is set up with the coordinates round my house, on Azof Street: http://bombsight.org/?#16/51.4890/0.0063 When I first moved here the site at the junction with Christchurch Way was still derelict, 50 years after the war. It's been built on now. Some of the older people still living on this street were here throughout the war, while the bombs were dropping round them. From time to time while people are doing building work an unexploded bomb still turns up. The most recent near to me was on the riverside path about 10 years ago. When you zoom out of the map it's quite shocking to see how many bombs fell in such a short time. We gave as much as we got, of course. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Bomb sight
My grandparents apartment was nearly destroyed by bomb jettisoned over Amsterdam by an allied bomber on its return to UK. Have to get the photo, quite amazing that no one died. A large hole but it didn't detonate for some reason. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Stan Halpin Sent: December 8, 2012 7:04 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Bomb sight A view from the other side of the channel: When I was five-six, (1950) my family finished up a three-year stint in Northern Greece and headed back to the States. A three-week tour through Europe, then a boat back home. One of my vivid memories from that trip was seeing block after block of damaged buildings in Germany and asking my father what had happened to them. They were bombed during the war and haven't been able to rebuild yet. Many years later, my major advisor from graduate school published a personal memoir of sorts [into the Fire by Siegfried Streufert]. His father was one of the anti-Nazi senators who went back home to Northern Germany in the mid 1930's (?) and was then part of the resistance. Siegfried tells of what it was like as a child living under the threat of bombers, and then later the frustration that the Allied troops didn't understand that many Germans saw them as liberators, not as conquerors. Bob, the graphic you shared really brings back those stories and is a reminder that this wasn't a sometimes thing, but that everyone was at risk in every neighborhood for months and months and months. A horrible way to live and a testament to universal stupidity. stan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Happy Hannukah
Enjoy your latkes! cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - Justin (messenger content)
I like the moving shots too, Marnie, but I'm trying to get a mix of different types of shots. Thanks for your comment and thanks as well to Dan and Don for your comments. Thanks to all who took the time to look. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 5, 2012 12/5/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Justin (messenger content) Doesn't do as much for me as some, especially those in motion. But I like his pose on the bike, like it is a part of him. HTH, Marnie aka Doe :-) --- In a message dated 12/4/2012 7:42:19 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, knarftheria...@gmail.com writes: Have to admit, I kind of like this one: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/justin.html?m=1 Hope you enjoy. Comments always welcome. Cheers, frank -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Freeway!
Striking image! Beautifully composed, love the blue sky with the sun trying to peek past the overpass. Wonderful! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: eactiv...@aol.com Sent: December 5, 2012 12/5/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Freeway! Taken, in 2012, near me in me in Pinole, CA, where there is a very nice convergence of these things. Probably come up with a GESO eventually. http://www.mapphotography.com/PAWS/pages/freeway.html Comments, as always, tolerated and even welcome. Marnie aka Doe ;-) Hmmm, at 600 pixels, may still be a little long for some. Is 580 or 590 better? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - My Generation
Nice composition, like the colours and, yeah, says something generational, doesn't it? ;-) cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com Sent: December 5, 2012 12/5/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - My Generation I meant to post this a couple of years ago, but it slipped my mind. Then again, maybe I forgot that I posted it. http://georges.posterous.com/my-generation George Sinos gsi...@gmail.com www.georgesphotos.net plus.georgesinos.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: GESO - A few shots from the US GP in Austin
Agree with Cotty! cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Steve Cottrell co...@seeingeye.tv Sent: December 5, 2012 12/5/12 To: pentax list PDML@pdml.net Subject: Re: GESO - A few shots from the US GP in Austin On 4/12/12, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Alonso.jpg Here's the guy who did win the race: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Hamilton.jpg And here's the guy who won his third straight championship a week later: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Vettel.jpg This was the last-but-one race for the most successful F1 driver ever: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Schumacher.jpg And this is the guy my wife and I were waving the flag for: http://www.jfwaf.com/USGP/Button.jpg Great shots! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Producion --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PDML Digest, Vol 80, Issue 56
From: Alexandru-Cristian Sarbu alexandru.sa...@gmail.com The declaration about wanting to double the sales in 2013 appeared in a Japanese interview, as did the full frame talk. The roadmaps are available on Pentax Japan's website, and being lens roadmaps they don't include any camera. Every little piece of information available shows they are not planning to miss the boat; I'm sure that will be confirmed next year. Respectfully, practically every company would want to see sales double next year. I'd like to find I had a long lost uncle who left me heir to his multi-million dollar estate. What have they done at the end of this year so that we might reasonably expect those declarations to come to fruition next year? A roadmap, much like one used when driving a vehicle shows where you can go, possibly wish to go, but doesn't mean you've gone there. I would agree they're not planning to miss the boat. I'm sure that, in Japan, the market for a Pentax FF would be much smaller (talking about units here) than for the Q. That's not an argument against the FF, though. Is that Pentax's largest market, though, Japan? I'm asking because Pentax looks like they want to compete on the global stage. Understood on FF. Which Pentax was unable to deliver (a full frame system, I presume)? The old Pentax Corporation, bought out by Hoya? Pentax, as a Hoya division? Or the 14 months old Pentax Ricoh? But how could the actual Pentax Ricoh be blamed because Hoya Pentax didn't had the funds to make a full frame product line? Or because Pentax Corporation's main shareholder was Sparx, who wanted to sell? Or for whatever caused Samsung's unwillingness to do more? I'll say again: the current Pentax Ricoh is a 14 months newborn; there simply wasn't enough time for them to deliver. I'm not assessing blame, I'm looking at 'as-is' state. Much like you can't blame Germans today for the holocaust or Americans born well after WWII for nuking Japan, the effects of those actions persist. I know those are exaggerated comparisons, but you get the point. The entity known as Pentax Ricoh was not in the position to develop a 24 MP APS-C body or a FF body even though sensors are available for use. Even at this date, it's hard to find a Pentax on display in any major retail outlet (i.e. Big Boxes, warehouse clubs, or department stores) in the US, or advertising of any kind. Driving through Hartford, CT last week I saw a huge billboard advertising the Canon T4i. The situation in US seems particularly bad, I'll give you that. I've probably beat this around as much as I care to. :) If Pentax does come out with some high demand products it would be good for both Pentax and its customers and I'd applaud them. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Hannukah
Andy Koufman! Where? Where? On 12/8/2012 7:56 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Enjoy your latkes! cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Happy Hannukah
Thanks, Frank. Latkes, brisket and a houseful of family tomorrow. -p On 12/8/2012 6:56 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Enjoy your latkes! cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO Reds
Thanks Bruce, It is a 1976 BB512, excellent condition. I believe that the paint is original. We'll have to take a little sojourn to the shop in April when I get back from the cruise. The WG2 is working out nicely, we bought it for snorkeling on the up coming trip but in meantime I wanted to get used to it. I'll post a second GESO, different subject but just as tasty, in a bit. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker Sent: December 8, 2012 8:47 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO Reds I like these very much, Gerrit. I'm a sucker for automotive detail, and you've done a fine job here. I really like your subject species too. :-) The image quality from that WG2 is excellent. On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com wrote: My first gallery here.not all reds but they are all part of something red. These were taken with a WG2 today. The only post porcessing was some cropping and straightening. http://hobbies.psgv.ca/wp-content/wp-hive/hobbies.psgv.ca/LR4/photos/r eds/ Yes, I know the link is weird, I'll work on that RSN :-) Gerrit -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Bike's-eye view of NY
Interesting and pretty cool, but everything seems to tilt the same way. Doesn't he over turn right? ;-) Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: December 5, 2012 12/5/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - Bike's-eye view of NY Here's an idea that Frank should appreciate. Dude attaches camera to bike and shoots stuff from inches off the road while cycling the big city. http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/01/photographs-showing-what-new-york-city-looks-like-to-a-bicycle/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Bike's-eye view of NY
His favourite sport is Nascar? Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: December 8, 2012 9:19 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: OT - Bike's-eye view of NY Interesting and pretty cool, but everything seems to tilt the same way. Doesn't he over turn right? ;-) Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com Sent: December 5, 2012 12/5/12 To: Pentax Discuss Mailing List PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - Bike's-eye view of NY Here's an idea that Frank should appreciate. Dude attaches camera to bike and shoots stuff from inches off the road while cycling the big city. http://www.petapixel.com/2012/12/01/photographs-showing-what-new-york-city-l ooks-like-to-a-bicycle/ -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content)
I ~hate~ the curb lane! Pedestrians stepping out without looking. Motor vehicles pulling over without looking. And worst of all, the dreaded door prize. Of course the law is that cars are supposed to signal, pull over and check to make sure the way is clear before throwing open a door. However being in the right is small consolation when you catch the pointy corner or a door in the chest. Unfortunately sometimes we're forced into the curb lane, as Chad is here: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/working-conditions.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Vanity Fair discusses Pentax K-01
Cool. I have to admit, looking through my film slr viewfinders is always revelatory. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Sent: December 6, 2012 12/6/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Vanity Fair discusses Pentax K-01 Now that was unexpected... http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2012/12/Price-Drop-Jaw-Drop Cheers, —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Vanity Fair discusses Pentax K-01
YOU!! --- Original Message --- From: Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com Sent: December 6, 2012 12/6/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Vanity Fair discusses Pentax K-01 Miserere wrote: Now that was unexpected... http://www.vanityfair.com/online/wolcott/2012/12/Price-Drop-Jaw-Drop I love the last line: as long as they manufacture film, never obsolescent Like saying As long as I don't die I'll live forever! -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: GESO Reds
Thanks, it is a spinner after all, your android obviously knows that. :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: December 8, 2012 9:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: GESO Reds One of my favourite Ferraris. Love these detail shots, especially that NACA scoop. The knockoff hub is frustrating me. I keep trying to turn my android upside down so I can see the prancing horse right side up but auto rotate won't let me. Wait! I can turn it off! D'oh! ;-) Wonderful photos. Cheers, frank --- Original Message --- From: Gerrit Visser gerrit...@gmail.com Sent: December 8, 2012 12/8/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO Reds My first gallery here.not all reds but they are all part of something red. These were taken with a WG2 today. The only post porcessing was some cropping and straightening. http://hobbies.psgv.ca/wp-content/wp-hive/hobbies.psgv.ca/LR4/photos/reds/ Yes, I know the link is weird, I'll work on that RSN :-) Gerrit -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content)
The grain effect is very pleasing, softens the view. Passing on the right is not a great move in cars either unless you really pay attention, which you can see that he is doing. Keeping the speed differential between objects reasonble is key to avoidance. Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: December 8, 2012 9:26 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Typical Day at the Office (messenger content) I ~hate~ the curb lane! Pedestrians stepping out without looking. Motor vehicles pulling over without looking. And worst of all, the dreaded door prize. Of course the law is that cars are supposed to signal, pull over and check to make sure the way is clear before throwing open a door. However being in the right is small consolation when you catch the pointy corner or a door in the chest. Unfortunately sometimes we're forced into the curb lane, as Chad is here: http://mondociclismo.blogspot.ca/2012/12/working-conditions.html?m=0 Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome. Cheers, frank If the world were clear, art would not exist. -- Albert Camus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
