Re: London PDML

[Bob Pdml]

> On 6 Jan 2020, at 14:16, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 6/1/20, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Dr. Lisa and I are coming to London for a short between-semester break
>> (sorry Cotty, no Oxford trip this time). Any lurking UK PDMLers give
>> me a shout if you'd like to meet up.
> 
> Just name the date and I'm sure we can meet up. Be nice to see Bob as well if 
> he's about.
> 
> 

I'm usually somewhere.

We're getting together with Chris at Brixton Market sometime late Saturday 
morning.


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Re: Therapeutic OT peso's for me

[Bob Pdml]

If you can't rant on the PDML then what's it for? 

Lovely pictures, and best wishes to all your family.

B

> On 5 Jan 2020, at 16:45, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Sorry for the online rant, but i felt the need to share this story and
> these two photos taken by my daughters iPhone 11 something
> 
> Back in Nov our doctors found a tumour in Liz's lung and neck. She under
> went a biopsy and fell ill from surgery complication shortly there after
> and has been in the hospital for about 2.5 weeks so far getting over
> pneumonia a UTI and C-Diff caught in the hospital. She has been in lock
> down for over a week and on the mend but my grand daughter Gwen wanted to
> hand deliver a home made get well card. We still have to wear a gown and
> gloves but the nurses said she could visit.
> 
> She has had starting radiation at the hospital and will under go a "
> radiation knife" on a spot in her brain this week at a another cancer
> hospital in Toronto, one of the worlds best.
> 
> The visit and card cheered her up and so was I.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/49334441332/
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/djbrooks/4933456/
> 
> Again sorry for the rant
> 
> Dave
> 

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Re: PESO - Give in

[Bob Pdml]

I suspect that was written by a Brexiteer given that they haven't entirely 
mastered the alphabet yet.



> On 5 Jan 2020, at 10:30, Bulent Celasun  wrote:
> 
> This is from Windermere in the Lake District region of Britain.
> Early morning.
> 
> https://celasun.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/r386-dt-g-sm.jpg
> 
> Comments appreciated.
> 
> Bulent
> -
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Re: Semi-OT: New Years Resolutions

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> On 31 Dec 2019, at 18:58, John  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> Resolution 2. I'm going to get my cookbooks out and at least once a month 
> find a recipe and cook it.
> 
> I've already started on that one, cooking "Morrocan Chicken" from Betty 
> Crocker's Slow Cooker Cookbook (P 118 if you have that cookbook) yesterday.
> 
> https://www.bettycrocker.com/recipes/slow-cooker-moroccan-chicken/9ff91541-0ba5-4cc2-b49b-79ec21526329
> 
> I've even managed to get all the dishes done in the aftermath. I ate about 
> 1/3 last night, 1/3 for lunch today and I've got 1/3 left over for later. 
> It's also the first time I ever cooked couscous which is a lot easier to cook 
> than rice.
> 
> Mine didn't turn out as pretty as the picture in the cookbook, but I bet it 
> was a lot tastier than trying to eat that picture.
> 
> I took a photo (with the K-1) of the recipe page & illustration that I'll 
> post to Flickr later so that this really will be only SEMI-OT once I post the 
> PESO

If you get a copy of Paprika, which is probably one of the best apps ever 
written, certainly one of my most-used, you don't need to take photos of the 
recipe pages, you can generally download them in the blink of an eye, and 
follow them while you cook as the screen will stay on.
https://www.paprikaapp.com/

Here's what your chicken recipe looks like in the iPad version:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtRNY5M6IZ1DjdgXv6NMo15Xnw4dRw

It also does shopping lists, meal plans etc. And you can make notes about the 
recipes. A really well-designed bit of software - not something I say very 
often after 40 years in software development.


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Re: OT - Just when I thought 2019 couldn't get any worse: RIP Neil Innes

[Bob Pdml]

Yes, he was great. Watching The Rutles when it first appeared on TV was almost 
as exciting as listening to the Beatles' singles when they were first released. 
Perfect pastiche.

> On 30 Dec 2019, at 21:49, Postmaster  wrote:
> 
> https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/dec/30/neil-innes-obituary
> 
> Perhaps a couple of others here besides Mike Wilson will know about
> the creative genius behind the Bonzo Dog Band, the Rutles and a lot of
> Money Python songs.
> 
> 
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Re: One last Thunderbird Test

[Bob Pdml]

> On 30 Dec 2019, at 17:11, Donald Guthrie  wrote:
> 
> No reply needed
> 
> 
F.A.B.

https://youtu.be/vjGtkz-Ma0U


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Re: Free at last!

[Bob Pdml]

> On 28 Dec 2019, at 09:56, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>> 
> 
> To quote a famous German soccer player: sometimes you lose, sometimes
> the others win.
> 
> 

We have a similar quote from a famous English player: football's a simple game 
- 22 men chase a ball around for 90 minutes and at the end Germany win.



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Re: If you're into this sort of thing...

[Bob Pdml]

> On 26 Dec 2019, at 11:29, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 26/12/19, Ralf R Radermacher, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> we're stuck in dreary old Cologne and trying to make the best of it.
> 
> You'd think it would at least smell nice.

Compared to Dunkirk and all that lovely Maroilles?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5R4Jw2rDFQk

Bonnes fêtes à tous!
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Re: GESO Holiday decorations

[Bob Pdml]

This is how to do it:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-50881270

...but perhaps best not to mention the extreme right in the context...

> On 22 Dec 2019, at 13:17, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Gross. I see there is a small Nativity scene at extreme right.
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 22-Dec-19 09:10 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
>> Some people really get into their holiday decorations.  All these are from 
>> one home.
>> 
>> http://www.studio1941.com/Christmas%20Lawn%202019/index.html#img=Christmas%20Lawn-K3-IMGP4235%20Pano.jpg
>>  
>> 
>> The entire gallery is here...
>> 
>> http://www.studio1941.com/Christmas%20Lawn%202019/index.html
>> 
>> 
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Re: Happy Ann day

[Bob Pdml]

Ditto. Although birth weeks can drag on a bit - a friend of mine recently had 
one for his 70th, and by the end of it I was sick of the sight of him, and fed 
up with saying Happy Birthday. 

> On 14 Dec 2019, at 08:32, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> I'm somewhat out of the loop with many things at the moment but do have many 
> more of them, Ann.
> 
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Re: PESO: FurFace re-do

[Bob Pdml]

Interesting test of emotional intelligence, trying to interpret its look! I 
think it's "get off my lawn!"

> On 8 Dec 2019, at 00:27, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I think it is disapproval in those eyes.. like "who ar you and why are you 
> pointing that thing at me?"
> yes Stan, this link worked :-)
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 12/7/2019 2:36 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
>> Perfect eye contact.
>> Busy but fitting background.
>> Do I see curiosity in his/her eyes?
>> 
>> I loved the image.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://photos.stanhalpin.com/img/s/v-10/p3744318309-6.jpg
>>> 
>>> 

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Re: how afraid should I be? (windoze 10)

[Bob Pdml]

> On 7 Dec 2019, at 18:00, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 7/12/19, Jan van Wijk, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Same here, allthough we simply spell it 'kak' :-)
> 
> Actually I think that's right here as well - my smell checker was on. Silly 
> bunt.

I think we spell it 'cack', as in cack-handed, which is derived from using your 
left (and usually clumsier) hand for cleaning up at the back. Also why it's 
considered impolite in many cultures to eat with your left hand.

> 


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Re: PESO: FurFace re-do

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Lovely shot!

> On 7 Dec 2019, at 15:30, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> This time with a proper link…
> 
> https://photos.stanhalpin.com/img/s/v-10/p3744318309-6.jpg
> 
> Back story: I recently updated LR Classic on my desktop as well as LR Mobile 
> on my iPad, that led me back into my ongoing (never ending?) quest for a 
> workable workflow which combines LR Mobile when I travel with LR Classic at 
> home. Part of my workflow project is developing a routine that will avoid 
> duplicates and/or allow me to quickly reconcile instances of duplication. In 
> other words, I create a problem by shooting RAW+JPEG, using the JPEG versions 
> while traveling to sometimes upload to my travel blog and/or share via an 
> Adobe gallery. As a side note, I am headed for a solution (?) which avoids 
> using JPEGs, and I’ll expand my on-the-road back up storage so as to be able 
> to stick with RAW files despite their size. And I will try to minimize 
> synching to the Adobe Cloud.
> 
> So anyway, this linked image is from earlier this year, near Iguazu Falls in 
> northern Argentina. I liked the image, had never done any post-processing to 
> bring up shadow detail etc. So it was a good candidate to try out Develop 
> tools in LR Mobile on my iPad and to play with some Export options from 
> within LR Mobile. The PP worked out ok, the Export not so much. Sorry about 
> the “you need to login” message associated with the previous link!
> 
> stan
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Re: OT IG handles

[Bob Pdml]

That's the way I do it

> On 2 Dec 2019, at 12:52, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> I sync with mobile LR, then copy whatever I'm going to put on IG to my phone 
> photos. When I'm preparing a post I can just scroll through available stuff. 
> It seems clunky but I've done it so much that I don't have to think about it.
> 
>> On 12/1/19 9:43 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>> Larry it's definitely a pain to share pics that don't originate from
>> the phone cam or the app directly, they really don't want desktop
>> access so that's why most solutions end up failing, not quite sure of
>> the rationale there. That said I don't find it too onerous, I just
>> have an IG folder in Dropbox which I pre-load from my desktop then
>> export to IG from the DB phone app.
>>> On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 at 10:38, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I set up an instagram account because people kept asking me about one, it 
>>> took a fair bit of work to get so that I could post my work there, and then 
>>> facebook broke things so that you cannot post to either facebook or 
>>> instagram from lightroom so f-them.
>>> 
>>> But, here is what went up before they broke stuff
>>> https://www.instagram.com/redforestphoto/
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Re: Blurry photo

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Thanks all!

> On 24 Nov 2019, at 19:57, Bulent Celasun  wrote:
> 
> Like Godfrey said, blur isolating a face...
> There is also a feel of old age or alternative processing to it.
> A fine photograph, for sure.
> 
> Bulent
> 
> -
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
> 
> Bob Pdml , 24 Kas 2019 Paz, 01:14 tarihinde şunu yazdı:
>> 
>> I don’t know if I’ve ever posted this here before. I was browsing through 
>> some of my shots in LR and saw it, so posted it to my Instagram.
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B5GniRsg2B_/?igshid=i359acsqmyes
>> 
>> Bob
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Blurry photo

[Bob Pdml]

I don’t know if I’ve ever posted this here before. I was browsing through some 
of my shots in LR and saw it, so posted it to my Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B5GniRsg2B_/?igshid=i359acsqmyes

Bob

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Re: Dos PESOs - the Arkansas Travler

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> On 19 Nov 2019, at 18:59, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>> Am 19.11.19 um 18:04 schrieb John:
>> 
>> I'm extremely disappointed that I traveled almost 900 miles and blew the
>> shot!:
> 
> Methinks the crowd barrier is far more annoying than the noise. But what
> a beautiful machine.
> 

Ditto

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Re: Capital Ring

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Thanks Rick. Not so sure I'd call it countryside though. Richmond Park is an 
ancient royal hunting ground, and Wimbledon Park formerly belonged to the 
Spencers and was landscaped by Capability Brown. The long views from above were 
shot from King Henry's Mound, which dates back to the neolithic times and was 
originally a burial mound, so the landscape has been populated and altered by 
humans for thousands of years.

Bob

> On 18 Nov 2019, at 01:32, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Those are beautiful, Bob. 
> 
> England’s combination of lovely countryside and public footpaths is a 
> treasure.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> The Capital Ring is a circular walk all the way around London. 
>> https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/walking/capital-ring
>> 
>> It was a beautifully autumnal day today and with some friends I walked 
>> section 6, from Wimbledon to Richmond, followed by a nice pub lunch.
>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6c4ae582153046189ab0d7c4880662fb
>> 
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Re: GESO: Basque Region

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Beautiful shots.  I spent a fair bit of time in San Sebastian in the mid-late 
80s. It's a fantastic town and I'd love to go back there. 

On one trip out I stood waiting for my bags at Bilbao Airport next to Anthony 
Hopkins, who wasn't then a fava-eating psychopathic cannibal, I'm happy to say.



> On 18 Nov 2019, at 19:49, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> On our recent trip we spent a couple of days in/around Bilbao Spain. On the 
> 2nd day I had arranged an all-day tour with a local guide. Well, Zach is 
> originally from Detroit, but has lived in that region with his Basque wife 
> for 7 years, so more or less “local.” Our group of six traveled along the 
> northern Spanish coast to the resort town of San Sebastian. Walked the beach, 
> checked out the local market, then slowly back to Bilbao with stops in 
> fishing villages and scenic overlooks along the way. And of course some 
> pintxos along the way (pintxos are like tapas but intended for serious 
> foodies.)
> 
> A good day and a region well worth a longer visit.
> 
> Technical notes: most shots were with the K-1ii, D FA 100/2.8 Macro, a few 
> with GR-III. The panoramic view of the bay of San Sebastian was stitched in 
> LR from 10 handheld vertical-format frames shot with the 100mm Macro.
> 
> Basque Region Gallery:  
> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/a791c2ec799c4f8e9d09f776c68e136f
> 
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Re: Capital Ring

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Make time for it next time you’re over here, it’s very enjoyable. Our walk 
lasted 2.5 hours. Travel to & from my house was about 2 hours total, and lunch 
lasted 3.5 hours... 

I’d like to do a walking safari sometime.

> On 18 Nov 2019, at 01:58, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> Now that's the sort of thing I would like to do if only I had time. 
> Beautiful Autumn shades too. We can walk in Kruger with armed rangers at a 
> price. A possible "solution" is to become an Honorary Ranger which requires a 
> years' training and a minimum of 50 hours/year.
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 18-Nov-19 02:26 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> The Capital Ring is a circular walk all the way around London.
>> https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/walking/capital-ring
>> 
>> It was a beautifully autumnal day today and with some friends I walked 
>> section 6, from Wimbledon to Richmond, followed by a nice pub lunch.
>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6c4ae582153046189ab0d7c4880662fb
>> 

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Re: Capital Ring

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> 
> Thanks y’all, it was a beautiful day - very lucky with the weather and the 
> light.
> 
> I shot the stag with the long end of a Panasonic micro four-thirds 35-100/2.8 
> lens, which is equivalent to a 70-200 in old money. It seemed very peaceful 
> and untroubled - it’s not apparent from the photo, but there is a road 
> running behind in the distance, which gets quite busy so the deer in the park 
> are very used to humans being close.

> Usually... https://youtu.be/vsbvL7Bctjc




> 
>> On 18 Nov 2019, at 02:54, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>> 
>> Lovely! and most lovely at all for me is number 8...
>> 
>> as to that stag with the big rack  - I hope that was taken with a long 
>> lens.. it /is/ rutting season
>> 
>> ann
>> 
>>> On 11/17/2019 8:32 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>> Those are beautiful, Bob.
>>> 
>>> England’s combination of lovely countryside and public footpaths is a 
>>> treasure.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The Capital Ring is a circular walk all the way around London.
>>>> https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/walking/capital-ring
>>>> 
>>>> It was a beautifully autumnal day today and with some friends I walked 
>>>> section 6, from Wimbledon to Richmond, followed by a nice pub lunch.
>>>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6c4ae582153046189ab0d7c4880662fb
>>>> 
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Capital Ring

[Bob Pdml]

The Capital Ring is a circular walk all the way around London. 
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/walking/capital-ring

It was a beautifully autumnal day today and with some friends I walked section 
6, from Wimbledon to Richmond, followed by a nice pub lunch.
https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6c4ae582153046189ab0d7c4880662fb


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Re: GESO: Another view of Paris

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Somebody once described Paris as 'a museum of museums'.

> On 16 Nov 2019, at 07:58, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> Stan, nice series bringing nostalgic memories.
> With that old Citroen and Montmartre paintings around it looks as if the city 
> hasn't changed in a lifetime.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2019-11-15 om 23:25 schreef Stanley Halpin:
>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/2a36d422c6c34ad1b2cb3eac374c5719
>> 
>> We were in Paris for a few days in early October.
>> Bob’s GESO inspired me to get back to my own photos and get some of them out 
>> there…
>> 
>> Most of this set were with a K-1ii, either D FA Macro 100/2.8 WR or FA 
>> 43/1.9. One GR-III mixed in.
>> 

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Re: GESO: Another view of Paris

[Bob Pdml]

Really nice - makes me wish I was there!

I'm particularly impressed by that shot of the Arc de Triomphe.

B

> On 15 Nov 2019, at 22:25, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/2a36d422c6c34ad1b2cb3eac374c5719
> 
> We were in Paris for a few days in early October. 
> Bob’s GESO inspired me to get back to my own photos and get some of them out 
> there…
> 
> Most of this set were with a K-1ii, either D FA Macro 100/2.8 WR or FA 
> 43/1.9. One GR-III mixed in.
> 
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Re: Paris

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks. 

She looks mighty yar - I look forward to comin' aboard and splicing the 
mainbrace sometime, me hearty!

Although I could retire now I want to sell my house first and do it all at 
once. I put it on the market earlier this year, but took it off again. I'll put 
it up for sale again in the New Year and hopefully it will sell. I've moved 
away from the idea of living in Paris to having a place over here on the South 
coast and a place in Avignon, and splitting my time between them. The place in 
France will have to wait until the exchange rate has improved though. Living in 
Paris would not be different enough from living in London, and the pollution is 
worse, although I really like being there and want to spend more time there. 
Avignon is superb, ticks all my boxes.

Heave away! Haul away!


> On 13 Nov 2019, at 14:32, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 12/11/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Spent the weekend in Paris with some friends at a flat in the Gobelins
>> district which one of them had borrowed. Had a view of part of the
>> Eiffel Tower and the Pantheon from the stairwell, which was jolly.
> 
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/31VpqmA
> 
> Fantastic gallery Bob - love that pic of you and old Bonypart.
> 
> Are you any closer to realising your retirement wish of living there?
> 
> Yesterday, after months of searching, I've put a deposit down on a boat! It's 
> a 33 foot sailing yacht of 1970s vintage and in great condition with just a 
> few things that need doing - enough to keep me in fettling mode for a few 
> months. She's called 'Hermione' and will be based in the Solent for a while 
> until we decide where/when we're heading, possibly southwest but TBA.
> 
> Should be up and running for next spring/summer so hopefully some photo opps 
> to come!
> 
> Here's a couple of phone snaps from Stefan yesterday...
> 
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Re: resend: PESO 2019 - 120 - GDG

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Works for me.

> On 12 Nov 2019, at 17:54, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hmm, that was dumb. I left the full BBCODE in for the photo on the first 
> send. Here's the message corrected: 
> 
> The evening before the SF photo walk this past weekend, I had the Minox EC 
> with me when I met up with some friends for a drink at the local club. I took 
> a couple of photos there … One, using the flash, of some friends appeals to 
> me despite that it shows my usual error in making it… 
> 
>  https://flic.kr/p/2hJPdwY
> 
> I'd forgotten to switch the EC from autoexposure mode to flash mode, so it 
> was trying to capture a long exposure while the flash went off and froze the 
> primary subject. I kind of like the point light tracery overlaid on the 
> frame, though, so eh? So much for intent! :-)
> 
> enjoy!
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Re: Paris

[Bob Pdml]

Not at all surprised. I thought of you and your Paris photos while I was there. 
Merci pour le compliment.

> On 12 Nov 2019, at 12:01, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Bob, you will probably not be surprised to learn my two faves are 3 and 13.. 
> but the whole view is yummy, despite the touristas. Though a great effort
> to find cormy.. in firefox I couldn't enlarge the photo.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 11/12/2019 2:46 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> Spent the weekend in Paris with some friends at a flat in the Gobelins 
>> district which one of them had borrowed. Had a view of part of the Eiffel 
>> Tower and the Pantheon from the stairwell, which was jolly.
>> 
>> They're not photography friends, so the pictures were taken in a rush, and 
>> in mainly touristy spots because two of the people are not very familiar 
>> with Paris. One photo thing I did manage to do was visit the excellent HCB 
>> in China exhibition at the Fondation Henri Cartier-Bresson - well worth a 
>> visit.
>> 
>> If you squint you may spot the PDML's favourite bird having a good squawk.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/31VpqmA
>> 
>> The first picture in the set is Greenwich, not Paris.
>> 
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Re: Paris

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> On 12 Nov 2019, at 20:56, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>> Am 12.11.19 um 19:30 schrieb Daniel J. Matyola:
>> Those locks seem to plague Paris more than other places I have visited, for
>> some reason.
> 
> Other cities get more than their fair share, as well. This is our main
> railway bridge across the Rhine. The city authorities estimate there are
> about 50 tons of them at any time. They regularly remove them but
> they're back almost overnight.
> 
> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/so-weit-das-auge-reicht-lava-eikon/42146056
> 

On the Pont des Arts they have replaced the lovely metalwork with glass/perspex 
panels after part of the bridge fell (or was it pushed?) into the river under 
the weight. On one of the other bridges they use metal rods, which the 
authorities regularly remove and then slide all the locks into a big bucket. 


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Re: Paris

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Thanks. It's not a double exposure. It's a photograph through a window showing 
the reflections on the window.

> On 12 Nov 2019, at 18:54, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> Nice gallery, Bob!  #14 makes me want to see more like it. You might be
> onto something with those double exposures.
> 
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> 
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:47 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Spent the weekend in Paris with some friends at a flat in the Gobelins
>> district which one of them had borrowed. Had a view of part of the Eiffel
>> Tower and the Pantheon from the stairwell, which was jolly.
>> 
>> They're not photography friends, so the pictures were taken in a rush, and
>> in mainly touristy spots because two of the people are not very familiar
>> with Paris. One photo thing I did manage to do was visit the excellent HCB
>> in China exhibition at the Fondation Henri Cartier-Bresson - well worth a
>> visit.
>> 
>> If you squint you may spot the PDML's favourite bird having a good squawk.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/31VpqmA
>> 
>> The first picture in the set is Greenwich, not Paris.
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Re: Paris

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Those locks are everywhere. God alone knows why people disfigure things with 
them. Do they really believe they’ll be there forever rather than collected 
once a month and sold for scrap?


> On 12 Nov 2019, at 12:11, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I like the gent in a museum with the sculpted figure behind. Hate to see 
> idiots have defaced a statue with locks.
> 
> Paul
> 
>> On Nov 12, 2019, at 2:47 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Spent the weekend in Paris with some friends at a flat in the Gobelins 
>> district which one of them had borrowed. Had a view of part of the Eiffel 
>> Tower and the Pantheon from the stairwell, which was jolly.
>> 
>> They're not photography friends, so the pictures were taken in a rush, and 
>> in mainly touristy spots because two of the people are not very familiar 
>> with Paris. One photo thing I did manage to do was visit the excellent HCB 
>> in China exhibition at the Fondation Henri Cartier-Bresson - well worth a 
>> visit.
>> 
>> If you squint you may spot the PDML's favourite bird having a good squawk.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/31VpqmA
>> 
>> The first picture in the set is Greenwich, not Paris.
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Re: Paris

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That object is the remains of the suitcase that Cartier-Bresson took with him 
to China in 1948 or 58. It’s on display in the window of the exhibition. 

Apparently it was found in a bin somewhere.

> On 12 Nov 2019, at 14:41, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I love the set, but particularly 11, 13 and 17.  11 is a
> particularly interesting object;  how did you find it?
> 
> Dan
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> 
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 2:47 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Spent the weekend in Paris with some friends at a flat in the Gobelins
>> district which one of them had borrowed. Had a view of part of the Eiffel
>> Tower and the Pantheon from the stairwell, which was jolly.
>> 
>> They're not photography friends, so the pictures were taken in a rush, and
>> in mainly touristy spots because two of the people are not very familiar
>> with Paris. One photo thing I did manage to do was visit the excellent HCB
>> in China exhibition at the Fondation Henri Cartier-Bresson - well worth a
>> visit.
>> 
>> If you squint you may spot the PDML's favourite bird having a good squawk.
>> 
>> https://adobe.ly/31VpqmA
>> 
>> The first picture in the set is Greenwich, not Paris.
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Paris

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Spent the weekend in Paris with some friends at a flat in the Gobelins district 
which one of them had borrowed. Had a view of part of the Eiffel Tower and the 
Pantheon from the stairwell, which was jolly.

They're not photography friends, so the pictures were taken in a rush, and in 
mainly touristy spots because two of the people are not very familiar with 
Paris. One photo thing I did manage to do was visit the excellent HCB in China 
exhibition at the Fondation Henri Cartier-Bresson - well worth a visit.

If you squint you may spot the PDML's favourite bird having a good squawk.

https://adobe.ly/31VpqmA

The first picture in the set is Greenwich, not Paris.

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Re: The story of the greatest rock and roll photo ever taken

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Beat me to it...

> On 11 Nov 2019, at 16:26, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> "She took a step back to get a better focus with her 35mm Pentax – and
> then all hell broke loose.'
> https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/nov/11/the-clash-london-calling-pennie-smith-photography
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"Rock's greatest photo"

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Was shot with a Pentax:

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2019/nov/11/the-clash-london-calling-pennie-smith-photography


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Re: The Dog's Bollards

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> On 3 Nov 2019, at 22:45, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 3/11/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6fac18712086404f9ecf77dd7efe438d/
>> albums/d5ac99092f6844b98d09c32dfd8d2e73/assets/
>> e971e95c3f4343dba38806837d0eb7ee
> 
> Holy Mary Mother of God. So much going on with parallels, spots, right 
> angles, lines, making my bloody eyes bleed !!
> 
> (well observed!)
> 
> 

Thanks. There never seems to be a zebra crossing when you need one. Then a 
whole bunch of them arrive at the same time:

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Re: The Dog’s Bollards

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Yes, i had to grab it pretty quickly with whatever the camera was set at.

> On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:52, Juan Buhler  wrote:
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> Nicely seen Bob!
> 
> You could have used a couple stops faster shutter in there I think... That
> Olympus should do well at ISO800 no?
> 
> Love it in any case.
> 
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>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 7:42 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6fac18712086404f9ecf77dd7efe438d/albums/d5ac99092f6844b98d09c32dfd8d2e73/assets/e971e95c3f4343dba38806837d0eb7ee
>> 
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Re: PESO: Spaceship Montzeon

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> On 3 Nov 2019, at 19:49, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> Whoa, interesting scene.
> 
> If you care about opinions: I feel like there are two subjects and they are
> competing with each other a little. I'd love to see a frame where for
> example one of the sheep is close to the camera, with the tower in the
> background adding al element of weirdness. Or conversely, a composition
> where the tower is the main subject, and the sheep are an extra element
> somehow (I can't quite imagine how you'd achieve this though!)

Put the sheep in the tower

> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 3:42 AM Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
>> 
>> ...has returned to outer space. The launching ramp will now be
>> deconstructed.
>> 
>> https://www.fotocommunity.de/photo/raumschiff-montzeon-fotoralfbe/43106571
>> 
>> 

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Re: GESO October favorites

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Good stuff.

> combining things not normally found together in nature because I think they’d 
> look good in a photo.

Definition of surrealism.

> On 2 Nov 2019, at 20:52, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> A set of three faves from October
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157711612516901
> 
> Two were from some friend’s playing at a local BBQ place on Wednesday.  The 
> third was from my habit of combining things not normally found together in 
> nature because I think they’d look good in a photo.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157711612516901
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Re: A cat

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Thanks. Sorry about the bad link.

> On 31 Oct 2019, at 13:15, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Nice composition and great eyes!
> 
> BTW, the first link gets me to a page of Adobe Ads, rather than your image.
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 7:52 AM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not really a cat photo person, but it is Halloween and this presented
>> itself as an opportunity for me to see how my Olympus E-M1 would be with
>> the four-thirds converter and the Oly 50-200/3.5 lens. That's the
>> equivalent of 400/3.5 in old money. The shot is handheld, wide open at
>> 1/1000sec. Not bad.
>> 
>> https://tinyurl.com/y55namtn
>> 
>> 
>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6fac18712086404f9ecf77dd7efe438d/albums/d5ac99092f6844b98d09c32dfd8d2e73/assets/51a66b08b1684595a84a9dae2ca808ee
>> 
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Re: Mini-PDML meet in Raleigh NC

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Nice portrait!

> On 31 Oct 2019, at 12:00, Jan van Wijk  wrote:
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> Had a very enjoyable meeting with John Sessoms today, in his hometown 
> Raleigh, North-Carolina.
> 
> We met at his favourite watering hole, the 'Deja Brew Coffee House' where we
> spent the best part of the afernoon chatting, covering a lot of ground,
> some of it even Pentax related :)
> 
> Failed to make a selfie of the both of us, but I did grab a few images, like 
> this one: 
> 
>https://www.dfsee.com/download/John-Sessoms-03091.jpg
> 
> All in all a very pleasant meeting with a fellow Pentaxian!
> 
> Looking forward to the upcoming mini-PDML meet at Annes place in NYC in a 
> week or so!
> 
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A cat

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I'm not really a cat photo person, but it is Halloween and this presented 
itself as an opportunity for me to see how my Olympus E-M1 would be with the 
four-thirds converter and the Oly 50-200/3.5 lens. That's the equivalent of 
400/3.5 in old money. The shot is handheld, wide open at 1/1000sec. Not bad.

https://tinyurl.com/y55namtn

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Re: Brooklyn

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Disfruta!

> On 27 Oct 2019, at 20:32, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
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> Okay, you've piqued my curiousity and I'll have to look up Alex Webb… :-)
> 
> G
> 
>> On Oct 27, 2019, at 11:17 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> I follow Alex Webb and Rebecca Norris Webb on Instagram, watching photos 
>> posted from their new book "Brooklyn, the city within". I already had three 
>> of their books and today received a copy of Brooklyn. 
>> 
>> There's something miraculous and mysterious about Webb's photographs and the 
>> way he composes - I wish I could do it, which I suppose is why I love his 
>> work so much, and love to analyse the compositions. The book is thoroughly 
>> recommended, as is their Instagram if you do such modern things.
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B4AUgszA69z/?igshid=1aqtnsfe8komf
>> 
>> Bob
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Re: Brooklyn

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> On 27 Oct 2019, at 19:49, Juan Buhler  wrote:
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>> On Sun, Oct 27, 2019 at 12:36 PM Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Great shot, very Webbian. I have something similar, but less Webbesque,
>> less mysterious:
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Iizf0Apxo/?igshid=rpu9bodp21k8
>> 
>> 
> Ohh, I like this! The high contrast row of pillars make it work I think.
> 
> My first reaction was that I'd do a slight crop, leaving the guy in the air
> dead center. But then I realized he already is centered! I think what
> bothers me slightly is the empty space on the right of the frame. Have you
> tried cropping the whole right side so you don't see the end of the row of
> pillars or the pole with the circular thing at the end?
> 
> Anyway I'm nitpicking. It's a great shot!
> 

Thanks. I like the compositional balance. The post on the right balances the 
seated guy, and the top right cloud balances the upright of the groyne in the 
lower left corner. There is even spacing between them all, and that very strong 
diagonal which continues to the point where the sea meets the sky, so I can't 
see any way to change it without knocking it off balance, to my mind.

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Re: Brooklyn

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Great shot, very Webbian. I have something similar, but less Webbesque, less 
mysterious:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4Iizf0Apxo/?igshid=rpu9bodp21k8


> On 27 Oct 2019, at 18:43, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Bob for the link, I didn't know about this book. Ordering it now,
> I'm a big fan of the Webbs work. And I couldn't agree more with your
> description of Alex's compositions. Some seem impossibly complex and at the
> same time simple and refreshing to look at
> 
> I took a workshop with them in 2008 in Cadiz, in the south of Spain. Not
> only they are super talented but also they are great people, those were
> some really pleasant few days making photos, getting Alex's help with the
> editing, and eating great food.
> 
> Just to keep it Pentax, here's a frame from that workshop. K10D, 12-24 zoom:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/16170069111/in/photostream/lightbox/
> 
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Brooklyn

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I follow Alex Webb and Rebecca Norris Webb on Instagram, watching photos posted 
from their new book "Brooklyn, the city within". I already had three of their 
books and today received a copy of Brooklyn. 

There's something miraculous and mysterious about Webb's photographs and the 
way he composes - I wish I could do it, which I suppose is why I love his work 
so much, and love to analyse the compositions. The book is thoroughly 
recommended, as is their Instagram if you do such modern things.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B4AUgszA69z/?igshid=1aqtnsfe8komf

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Re: PESO 2019 - 116-119 - GDG

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On 26 Oct 2019, at 14:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

>> Nice set. That small empty road looks nice! I don't understand the Caltrain 
>> thing - are those bikes in a train carriage?
> 
> Yes: CalTrain usually includes at least one bicycle carriage per train, 
> sometimes more. The carriages are two level, the first level is for bicycle 
> parking and the second level for seating with an open space so you can see 
> your bike parked below.

That looks superb - I wish we had those over here.

> 
>> I may have asked this before, what do you carry the camera in?
> 
> Most of the time, and with most cameras, I use a Wotancraft Mini Rider sling 
> bag: 
> https://www.wotancraft.tw/en/product/mini-rider-vintage-grey-canvas
> 
> [...]

> I recently found this bag, the Vitesse Musette by Waterfield Design:
> https://www.sfbags.com/products/vitesse-cycling-musette
> 
> It's an extremely simple design … and it just works superbly for a huge range 
> of uses. On the bike, I've carried it with a bunch of different gear and 
> other stuff in it. It lays flat on the small of my back and also positively 
> does not move around, at all. And it's very versatile due to it being just a 
> simple bag without a bazillion little pockets, zippers, and other stuff. When 
> I put a camera in it, I usually use a wrap or padded pouch to help protect it 
> that doesn't take up so much space. Beautifully made of very good materials 
> here in SF, utter simplicity itself. I find myself using it a lot of the time 
> now.

That's interesting - I have exactly that same musette. Bought it a few years 
ago with some of their other pieces. Cost me a shit-ton of money to ship it 
over here. I like the design of the bag but I don't much like the waxed canvas, 
so I don't use it much. Although I will be carrying a couple of changes of 
clothes to Paris in it in two weeks.

I use an even simpler musette:
https://restrap.co.uk/products/musette-bag-1

I only put cameras in it if I'm going a short distance. Mostly I use it for my 
commute - change of clothes, stuff it in my saddlebag. On the way home pick up 
some shopping, put the shopping in the saddlebag, sling the musette over my 
back for the last mile.

> 
> I tried putting bags and such on the bike and offloading the gear into that, 
> but I found I don't really like doing that much. It changes the bike's 
> handling and I fear for all the vibration and shock it delivers to the camera 
> and lenses.

To carry cameras on the bike I use a bar bag. Most recently it's been a Gilles 
Berthoud GB905, into which a Tenba BYOB 9 insert fits perfectly, and into that 
I put my Olympus E-M1 + 14-40/2.8 and everything seems to be fine re vibration 
and shock, and the bike handling is fine.
https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/6fac18712086404f9ecf77dd7efe438d


> 
>> The calories thing is great. I went cycling for a long weekend in Norfolk in 
>> August with a friend and when I told her how many calories we were burning 
>> she didn't believe me, but was thrilled when she eventually was persuaded.
> 
> I track my route and heart rate, and the gizmo calculates calories which I 
> enter into the MyFitnessPal app with all my food and drink. It works well for 
> me, and I'm enjoying better health and fitness than I had for years. :)

Ditto. I track output with my Garmin watch, input with MyFitnessPal, and weigh 
myself on my connected Garmin scales. Garmin Connect does the sums. I've sold 
my soul to Garmin.

> 
> Onwards! 
> G

Excelsior!
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Re: PESO: Pepe

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Brilliant! You haven't lost any of your genius in the lurking years.

B

> On 26 Oct 2019, at 21:50, Juan Buhler  wrote:
> 
> ...and for "every so often" I mean "for the first time in what, 10 years or
> so?"
> 
> Long time member, have been lurking for many years now.
> 
> I've been shooting with either Sony cameras or the Ricoh GR II. But in the
> last year or so I've developed a fascination with older, ~12MP small sensor
> cameras. I got both a Q7 and an MX-1. Those are both excellent cameras, for
> different reasons, but both fun to shoot with. The MX-1 in particular is a
> delight to take photos with--you should have seen me last month on Paris, I
> was all like  MX-1> and . I lacked only the accent and the hat from
> the guy in that hilarious MX-1 Pentax ad.
> 
> Anyway, here is the PESO: Pepe, one of my dogs. Taken with the Q7 and the
> standard zoom, plus a little FlashQ handheld and triggered by the camera
> via the Flash remote. Cropped and edited to taste in LR.
> 
> I think it's a fun picture:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jbuhler/48964245326/
> 
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Re: PESO 2019 - 116-119 - GDG

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> On 26 Oct 2019, at 15:01, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> I'd love to do something like that. Perhaps next summer? It's been a thought 
> for a while to acquire a small van, something like the Ford Transit Connect 
> series, to use as a base vehicle that I can bring the bike over longer 
> distances so I can go ride interesting other places. 
> 
> Right now, I'm enjoying using the trains, the light rail and MUNI in SF to do 
> that. A little van, properly set up, with give me access to places I cannot 
> currently reach with these means. 

That's what the bike is for!! I can see the appeal though, the VW camper / 
surfing vibe.

Having said that, Chris M and I have talked about doing a ride across France 
with Karin and their caravan as the back-up vehicle. Most of my trips across 
France use the train and/or ferry to get to the start. A very civilised way of 
travelling.

> 
> The distinction of doing it with a fat bike as a point of the article is 
> interesting. I've been riding this bike so much for the past year and a half 
> it is now not 'fat', it just has big tires… and I really like it! ;-)

Could be like The Bicycle of Dorian Gray - as he got slimmer, the tyres got 
fatter...

> 
> G
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2019, at 9:26 PM, David Mann  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> https://cyclingtips.com/2019/10/crossing-the-simpson-desert-by-fat-bike/
> 

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Re: PESO 2019 - 116-119 - GDG

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Nice set. That small empty road looks nice! I don't understand the Caltrain 
thing - are those bikes in a train carriage?

I may have asked this before, what do you carry the camera in?

The calories thing is great. I went cycling for a long weekend in Norfolk in 
August with a friend and when I told her how many calories we were burning she 
didn't believe me, but was thrilled when she eventually was persuaded.

> On 25 Oct 2019, at 13:41, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Got the numbering on these a little out of order but eh? doesn't really 
> matter. 
> 
> I took a nice cycle ride on Wednesday... Hopped the train with the Fatboy 
> Comp Carbon here in Santa Clara and exitted in Redwood City.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2hA19D3
> 
> I met a friend there for lunch. Afterwards, I let Google Maps guide me back 
> down the Peninsula towards Mountain View. I had it set to cycling and it took 
> me through a marvelously twisty and fun route that I'd never have dreamed up 
> myself. I stopped several times to make a photo when the light and the scene 
> moved me. 
> 
> First, at the edge of Menlo Park and Palo Alto, there was this giraffe: 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2hA19CB
> 
> After that, I crossed over the US 101 highway complex at the Arastradero maze 
> using the very long pedestrian bridge there and headed out on the Bay Trail. 
> It was a lovely day out and the trail was completely empty when I was there, 
> the first time that's happened on the rides I've taken there. 
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2hzXjFq
> 
> This trail goes way out onto the edge of SF Bay, and can take you onto dirt 
> around east of Moffet Field, but I didn't want to go that way. Hopping back 
> over US 101 via another pedestrian bridge, and then wiggling through one 
> neighborhood after another, I found myself right back at one of my favorite 
> cafe's in downtown Mountain View, Dana Street Roasting Company. These chairs 
> begged to be photographed, the light was stunning in rich contrasts.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2hzXjFR
> 
> From there to home is a (mostly boring) pretty straight shot down Evelyn and 
> onto Monroe, about 8 miles or so long. I didn't stop again to make any photos 
> in that section, I just pounded pedals and flew as it is slightly downhill 
> most of the way… :)
> 
> All told, it was 27 miles on that run at 11.8 mph average speed. I pummeled 
> down 1400 calories of pedaling... It was great! All photos made with the 
> Leica CL fitted with Voigtländer 10mm f/5.6. 
> 
> onwards, always onwards!
> G
> —
> The trouble with being punctual is that nobody's there to appreciate it.
> 
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Re: To B, or not to B?

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Probably best if you unbait it, this could go on for a lot longer still. 

Thanks for everyone's comments.
B

> On 20 Oct 2019, at 15:51, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
>> Am 19.10.19 um 23:42 schrieb Bob Pdml:
>> Some photos from central London today, where the question was on many 
>> people's minds.
> 
> Well done, Bob, and thanks for sharing. We're all waiting with baited
> breath..
> 
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Re: PESO: layers of blue

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The play was on TV here in 1979, I was only 22! I had another browse through A 
Shropshire Lad in a bookshop today. I like that elegiac Edwardian type of 
poetry.

B

> On 20 Oct 2019, at 13:54, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Bob, I hope you read more Houseman after that.. :-)  seems you came to him 
> late.
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 10/20/2019 2:47 AM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> I first heard the phrase when I watched Dennis Potter's play of that name on 
>> TV. My introduction to both Potter and Housman.
>> 
>> https://www.theguardian.com/culture/tvandradioblog/2008/jun/05/tvblogbypeterbradshaw
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 20 Oct 2019, at 02:47, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
>>> 
>>> thanks Bob, appreciated. 'blue remembered hills", i have to use that
>>> phrase somewhere :) seriously, the poem intrigued me with its air of
>>> melancholy, i had to look up ae housman. an interesting life...
>>> 
>>> thanks to all those who looked and commented
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 20:33:47 +0100
>>> Bob Pdml  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Very nice indeed.
>>>> 
>>>> As A E Housman wrote,
>>>> 
>>>> "Into my heart an air that kills
>>>> From yon far country blows:
>>>> What are those blue remembered hills,
>>>> What spires, what farms are those?
>>>> 
>>>> That is the land of lost content,
>>>> I see it shining plain,
>>>> The happy highways where I went
>>>> And cannot come again"
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 19 Oct 2019, at 04:01, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
>>>>> https://web.500px.com/photo/1004698223/layers-of-blue-by-Subash-Jeyan/
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Re: PESO: layers of blue

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I first heard the phrase when I watched Dennis Potter's play of that name on 
TV. My introduction to both Potter and Housman.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/tvandradioblog/2008/jun/05/tvblogbypeterbradshaw



> On 20 Oct 2019, at 02:47, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> thanks Bob, appreciated. 'blue remembered hills", i have to use that
> phrase somewhere :) seriously, the poem intrigued me with its air of
> melancholy, i had to look up ae housman. an interesting life...
> 
> thanks to all those who looked and commented
> 
> 
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019 20:33:47 +0100
> Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
>> Very nice indeed.
>> 
>> As A E Housman wrote,
>> 
>> "Into my heart an air that kills
>> From yon far country blows:
>> What are those blue remembered hills,
>> What spires, what farms are those?
>> 
>> That is the land of lost content,
>> I see it shining plain,
>> The happy highways where I went
>> And cannot come again"
>> 
>> 
>>> On 19 Oct 2019, at 04:01, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
>>> https://web.500px.com/photo/1004698223/layers-of-blue-by-Subash-Jeyan/
> 
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To B, or not to B?

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Some photos from central London today, where the question was on many people's 
minds.

https://adobe.ly/2Mw2vd1


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Re: PESO: layers of blue

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Very nice indeed.

As A E Housman wrote,

"Into my heart an air that kills
>From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills,
What spires, what farms are those?

That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again"


> On 19 Oct 2019, at 04:01, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> posting a peso after a long time...
> 
> https://web.500px.com/photo/1004698223/layers-of-blue-by-Subash-Jeyan/
> 
> from a trek in the himalayas i did in november last. i had posted a
> geso at the time but this one hadn't caught my eye. i thought it was
> worth digging up and posting as a peso...
> 
> k5iis, DAL 55-300
> 
> comments appreciated.
> 
> ~subash
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Re: Peso: The photographer

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He can't be a real photographer with a dinky little toy camera like that.

> On 2 Oct 2019, at 13:03, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Paul and Ken :-)
> 
> ann
> 
>> On 10/1/2019 11:03 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> Very creative.Well done!
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2019, at 9:37 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> a beautiful day in NYC - I brought my little P&S with me when meeting 
>>> friends and by gum I did a bit of quick grab shooting... here is one.
>>> 
>>> https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2017-2018snaps/i-LL3FRVc/A
>>> 
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Re: OT: Conversations on Conflict Photography

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Can't get to the talk, but the book looks interesting, thanks, particularly as 
it also covers humanitarian and aid work, which is quite rarely discussed in 
photography.


> On 2 Oct 2019, at 15:43, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> This is a program by the NY Times in NYC on Nov 5
> 
> Conversations on
> Conflict Photography
> 
> Across a wide range of battlegrounds worldwide, conflict photographers face
> daunting perils to capture indelible images. From dodging gunfire to facing
> psychological and cyber dangers, these journalists are steadfast in
> bringing you the truth. At a moment when legitimate journalism is
> repeatedly attacked by leaders around the globe, acknowledging the import
> of this work is crucial.
> 
> Learn about their experiences at this discussion moderated by Craig Allen,
> an international photo editor at The New York Times. The speakers include
> an award-winning New York Times photographer; Bangladeshi photographer and
> activist Shahidul Alam, who was jailed after criticizing the Bangladeshi
> government and its abusive treatment of student protestors, and whose work
> will be exhibited at the Rubin Museum of Art; and Lauren Walsh, a professor
> at The New School, whose new book, “Conversations on Conflict Photography,”
> focuses on coverage of war and humanitarian crises.
> 
> GET TICKETS
> 
> Date   Tuesday, November 5
> 
> Time   7–8:15 p.m.
> 
> Venue  The Auditorium  Alvin Johnson/J.M. Kaplan Hall
> The New School
> 66 West 12th Street
> New York City
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> Tickets
> $20 general admission
> $15 for All Access Plus and Home Delivery subscribers
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Dennis Stock's California Trip

[Bob Pdml]

Has recently been re-issued for the first time since 1970, so I bought a copy. 
I've been familiar with many of the pictures for decades, of course, but had 
never seen the book. It is a brilliant example of photo book editing. The 
individual photos are great, some of them classics, but the way they work 
together is excellent, often having a very witty and subtle echo across the 
double-page spreads. Well worth buying.

https://www.magnumphotos.com/arts-culture/society-arts-culture/dennis-stock-california-trip-1960/


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Re: OT: Portraits of women serving life sentences

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That's a very powerful piece.

> On 13 Sep 2019, at 13:55, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/gabrielsanchez/sara-bennett-looking-inside-women-prison-incarceration?utm_source=Sailthru&utm20list
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Re: RIP Robert Frank @ 94 - GDG

[Bob Pdml]

I'm a big fan of The Americans, and just saw the announcement on Magnum's 
Instagram feed.

People do give a great deal of credit for the success of The Americans as a 
work in its own right as an object rather than just a collection of photos to 
Robert Delpire, who did the layout and the first publication, in France.

I'd love to see the contact sheets.

> On 10 Sep 2019, at 15:18, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Well, 94 is a good long life at least... (though someone who is still alive 
> at that age may disagee) I have "The Americans" in my library as well , and 
> ya gotta know I'm a fan girl.
> 
> Fairly recently there was a nice retrospecitve at the Met that was 
> splendid... showing some contact sheets with china marker circles indicating 
> his choices for enlargement..
> 
> ann sad
> 
>> On 9/10/2019 9:45 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>> Sad news today:
>> 
>> Robert Frank, Pivotal Figure in Documentary Photography, Is Dead at 94
>> Mr. Frank’s visually raw and personally expressive style made him one of the 
>> most influential photographers of the 20th century.
>> 
>>   https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/arts/robert-frank-dead.html
>> 
>> His photographs turned my head and got under my skin in 1970. I still have 
>> the used 1968 paperback edition of “The Americans” I bought at a bookstore 
>> on Fordham Road in the Bronx, NY, then…
>> 
>> I am so happy I was able to see his talk at the Kantor Museum (Stanford 
>> University, Palo Alto, CA 2014). My friend Linda called and invited me to 
>> join her: she was photographing the talk for the University.
>> 
>>   https://flic.kr/p/q5vzFK
>> 
>> Godspeed, Robert!
>> 
>> G
>> —
>> Only in silence the word,
>> only in dark the light,
>> only in dying, life;
>>   bright the hawk's flight
>>   on the empty sky.
>> 
>> - "Song of Ea", Ursula K. Le Guin
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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

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Here's the link I accidentally prorogued:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/09/prorogue-parliament-brexit-power-boris-johnson-impotence

> On 9 Sep 2019, at 20:51, Bob Pdml  wrote:
> 
> An interesting article here which no doubt applies equally to the situation 
> in the USA. 
> 
> Populism is about manipulation, not about majorities. Neither Trump nor 
> Johnson represent any kind of majority.
> 
> 
>> On 9 Sep 2019, at 19:12, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> 
>> “Populist” is the most abused word in the English language. In truth it just 
>> means someone who supports the little guy and plays to majority opinion. 
>> Today, it’s used to describe anyone leftists don’t like. I don’t like Trump 
>> and am reserving judgement on Johnson, but neither is truly a populist.
>> 
>> As someone will undoubtedly point out, none of this crap belongs in the list.
>> Paul
>> 
>>> On Sep 9, 2019, at 1:45 PM, William Robb  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It really just goes to show how absolutely dangerous and foolhardy it is to
>>> elect populists to power.
>>> 
>>> They are generally incompetent, have no real leadership skills, and are
>>> only good at the required to be a populist  job of self aggrandizement.
>>> 
>>> Johnson is a poster boy for clueless buffoons everywhere, and he seems
>>> proud to be taking his cues on the subject from trump.
>>> 
>>> trump, at least, has shown the world how completely hypocritical American
>>> conservatives are and, unfortunately, how untrustworthy the United States
>>> actually is. He had boldly shown that eventually, the USA turns on
>>> everyone, including it's own citizens.
>>> 
>>> Both will go down as the worst individuals ever to be elected to office
>>> anywhere.
>>> Neither can be referred to as leaders, since neither has the ability or the
>>> inclination to lead.
>>> Both are in it purely for personal enrichment.
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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

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An interesting article here which no doubt applies equally to the situation in 
the USA. 

Populism is about manipulation, not about majorities. Neither Trump nor Johnson 
represent any kind of majority.


> On 9 Sep 2019, at 19:12, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> “Populist” is the most abused word in the English language. In truth it just 
> means someone who supports the little guy and plays to majority opinion. 
> Today, it’s used to describe anyone leftists don’t like. I don’t like Trump 
> and am reserving judgement on Johnson, but neither is truly a populist.
> 
> As someone will undoubtedly point out, none of this crap belongs in the list.
> Paul
> 
>> On Sep 9, 2019, at 1:45 PM, William Robb  wrote:
>> 
>> It really just goes to show how absolutely dangerous and foolhardy it is to
>> elect populists to power.
>> 
>> They are generally incompetent, have no real leadership skills, and are
>> only good at the required to be a populist  job of self aggrandizement.
>> 
>> Johnson is a poster boy for clueless buffoons everywhere, and he seems
>> proud to be taking his cues on the subject from trump.
>> 
>> trump, at least, has shown the world how completely hypocritical American
>> conservatives are and, unfortunately, how untrustworthy the United States
>> actually is. He had boldly shown that eventually, the USA turns on
>> everyone, including it's own citizens.
>> 
>> Both will go down as the worst individuals ever to be elected to office
>> anywhere.
>> Neither can be referred to as leaders, since neither has the ability or the
>> inclination to lead.
>> Both are in it purely for personal enrichment.
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Re: OT: British House of Cards (a bit political

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They do still have quite a way to go before you can call them the worst. After 
all, Hitler was elected to office.

Nevertheless, one of the few heartening things about all this is that quite a 
few Tories are able to put the country before their personal ambition, 
including Boris's own brother, and in that respect they are still fractionally 
ahead of the Republicans, whose apparently only honourable member, McCain, is 
no longer with us.

I think, or rather hope, that the outcomes of all this will include a written 
constitution and the end such things as the royal prerogative (which in 
practice amounts to the PM having carte blanche), so that proroguing parliament 
can only be done with the consent of the House of Commons.

> On 9 Sep 2019, at 18:45, William Robb  wrote:
> 
> It really just goes to show how absolutely dangerous and foolhardy it is to
> elect populists to power.
> 
> They are generally incompetent, have no real leadership skills, and are
> only good at the required to be a populist  job of self aggrandizement.
> 
> Johnson is a poster boy for clueless buffoons everywhere, and he seems
> proud to be taking his cues on the subject from trump.
> 
> trump, at least, has shown the world how completely hypocritical American
> conservatives are and, unfortunately, how untrustworthy the United States
> actually is. He had boldly shown that eventually, the USA turns on
> everyone, including it's own citizens.
> 
> Both will go down as the worst individuals ever to be elected to office
> anywhere.
> Neither can be referred to as leaders, since neither has the ability or the
> inclination to lead.
> Both are in it purely for personal enrichment.
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Re: pentax sighting....

[Bob Pdml]

Brilliant - well done to both of you!

> On 9 Sep 2019, at 14:29, Subash Jeyan  wrote:
> 
> https://www.inaturalist.org/posts/27239-a-young-naturalist-in-india-finds-a-stunning-treehopper-observation-of-the-week-9-8-2019
> 
> the young 'naturalist' featured, i think, has a ks1 :)
> 
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> On 5 Sep 2019, at 23:25, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 5/9/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Tell you what, you ride it along the Thames in this direction, I'll ride
>> my bike in your direction, we meet in the middle and up a swan or two.
> 
> Hang on - breaking myself in gently old boy!!
> 
> This old boy isn't used to having a narrow black supposedly soft thing 
> parting his butt-cheeks courtesy of the shit-eating potholes rife in 
> Oxfordshire!!

Get yourself a lycra nappy!

Bromptons aren't good on pot-holes - small wheels.

The saddle, assuming it's a Brooks, is supposed to be like a hammock supporting 
the ischial tuberosities, with no pressure on the perineum (which is the road 
to Numh Qoc) and definitely no parting of the butt-cheeks! It still takes time 
to get used to being on a bike for some length of time, and padded cycling 
shorts - preferably bib shorts - are definitely worthwhile.

> 
> I'm getting there!

Enjoy!

> 
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> On 5 Sep 2019, at 21:57, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 5/9/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>>> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg
>>> 
>> 
>> Looking remarkably sylphy there, Godfrey. New bike?
> 
> Brilliant.
> 
> I may have just bought a Brompton, by the way..

Tell you what, you ride it along the Thames in this direction, I'll ride my 
bike in your direction, we meet in the middle and up a swan or two.

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Re:

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> 
> An iPhone 6s image at ISO 25, presuming a good exposure with the camera held 
> steadily enough, can net a beautiful print to the limits of the number of 
> pixels. 
> 
> For instance, this is made with an iPhone 8 Plus (similar number of pixels) 
> and prints to a beautiful 13x13 inch print, or maybe larger: 
> 
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48625474017_8258d4fa1d_c.jpg
> 

Looking remarkably sylphy there, Godfrey. New bike?


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Re: OT Geso: York plowmen final year

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> On 2 Sep 2019, at 19:08, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
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> On 2/9/19, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> and over all wow factor
> 
> Do people really say that at ploughing matches? ;-)
> 
> (mind you this is rural Canada we're talking about !!)
> 

Only in North America. Over here it's the wough factor.



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Re: OT: Micro 4/3rds adapters

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Thanks, those photos show it off very well.

> On 1 Sep 2019, at 02:03, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Olympus makes extremely good lenses. I've always found them to be on par with 
> Zeiss and Leica lenses, at least their pro-line lenses. :)
> 
> I looked through photos I've posted on Flickr made with the E-M1 and 50-200mm 
> lens. Seems I use the EC-14 teleconverter with this lens a lot of the time, 
> netting the FF equivalent of a 70 to 560 mm f/4 to f/4.5, or something like 
> that. With the E-M1's IS, it's real easy to get very sharp hand-held results 
> even at very long effective focal lengths. Here are a few shots I posted to 
> flickr:
> 
> ZD 50-200 on E-M1:
> https://flic.kr/p/nsWN7N
> https://flic.kr/p/i39bMH
> 
> ZD 50-200 + EC14 on E-M1:
> https://flic.kr/p/imhXsa
> https://flic.kr/p/imiAHk
> https://flic.kr/p/imhWRR
> https://flic.kr/p/imixMa
> https://flic.kr/p/imi5jf
> https://flic.kr/p/imhVzx
> https://flic.kr/p/imi4uE
> 
> The EC14 is a *perfect* optical match to the 50-200 zoom lens, especially the 
> early one like I have. It actually performs better with the teleconverter in 
> place than without, particularly at near full aperture. 
> 
> What works on the Olympus cameras in way of M-mount lenses can be quite 
> variable. Longer focal lengths (35 and up) do a lot better than shorter focal 
> lengths. 
> 
> One lens that surprises is the Pentax-L 43mm f/1.9 Special (the LTM version 
> of the FA43mm Limited). This lens, because it is basically an SLR lens fitted 
> in a Leica thread mount, produces remarkably good results on nearly any body 
> I've tried it on. Of course, it comes out to be a nice portrait tele on 
> FourThirds format. I use it on the Leica CL quite a lot now, it's a short 
> portrait tele on that camera (effective about 65mm FF equivalent FoV). 
> 
> Enjoy,
> G
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2019, at 5:03 PM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Godfrey. I like the Olympuses (Olympoi?), and the lenses are really 
>> excellent - it has felt rather a shame not to have used the FT ones for so 
>> long. 
>> 
>> I had a dig around after sending the email, and discovered that Oly, not 
>> surprisingly, make an adapter, the one you mention, so I have ordered one 
>> from Amazon. I have the 11-22, 14-54 and 50-200 lenses so it will be 
>> interesting to see how they do, particularly the 50-200, which is the only 
>> one outside the range of the lens I bought with the body today.
>> 
>> I also discovered the Novoflex for Leica M mount, which seems like the best 
>> option, but I'll hold off getting it until I've played with the rest of the 
>> stuff. It could be valuable to have it for my Leica 50/2, Voigtlander 75/1.8 
>> and L 90/2.8 to extend the focal lengths available to me. With the shorter 
>> lenses, particularly the L 35/1.4 it would be nice to see the thin dof. But 
>> when I first switched to digital and used my beautiful Contax lenses with 
>> adapters I learned how much can be lost in translation, so I won't rush to 
>> buy a Novoflex, but will see if I can try one out first. I see Voigtlander 
>> also do an M-MFT adapter which seems to be well thought of, so I'll also 
>> consider one of those.
>> 
>> 190 options is way too many for me. I know what I like, and I try to keep it 
>> simple, so I've already read the manual and set up the camera; I'll have a 
>> play with it tomorrow. Not a bad idea to write it down though.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> B
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Re: September PUG Countdown

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It's a beautiful area for cycle touring. I rode up to Shaftesbury a few years 
ago, but by the main road, not Gold Hill. Shaftesbury's a nice town.

I'm not around when you're over here - in fact, I plan to be cycling to a 
wedding in Hampshire, touring the area for a couple of days, then cycling to 
Brighton through the S Downs before taking the train home from Brighton. 
Weather permitting.

> On 1 Sep 2019, at 01:46, Stanley Halpin  wrote:
> 
> And a bit more reminiscing on Gold Hill… In 1981 Meg and I spent 3 weeks in 
> that region, Bicycles mostly, loaded panniers, B&Bs for overnights. Some 
> train travel along the way. Our overall route was London to Tavistock to 
> Lands End to Bath to Cardiff to Northern Wales to Cambridge to London. In 
> preparation for the trip I had ordered a Tourism Brochure from some outfit in 
> England. The cover photo was of Gold Hill. A feature story was about Castle 
> Coomb (sp?) a few miles east of Bath. Our journey’s first leg was by train to 
> Shaftsbury, by bike up to the old town on the hill top, then onward to 
> another train out into Devon where the serious biking started. We probably 
> had loafs of bread in the panniers, I know we had just about everything else, 
> but we did not ride up or down Gold Hill.
> 
> stan
> 
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Re: OT: Micro 4/3rds adapters

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Thanks, Godfrey. I like the Olympuses (Olympoi?), and the lenses are really 
excellent - it has felt rather a shame not to have used the FT ones for so 
long. 

I had a dig around after sending the email, and discovered that Oly, not 
surprisingly, make an adapter, the one you mention, so I have ordered one from 
Amazon. I have the 11-22, 14-54 and 50-200 lenses so it will be interesting to 
see how they do, particularly the 50-200, which is the only one outside the 
range of the lens I bought with the body today.

I also discovered the Novoflex for Leica M mount, which seems like the best 
option, but I'll hold off getting it until I've played with the rest of the 
stuff. It could be valuable to have it for my Leica 50/2, Voigtlander 75/1.8 
and L 90/2.8 to extend the focal lengths available to me. With the shorter 
lenses, particularly the L 35/1.4 it would be nice to see the thin dof. But 
when I first switched to digital and used my beautiful Contax lenses with 
adapters I learned how much can be lost in translation, so I won't rush to buy 
a Novoflex, but will see if I can try one out first. I see Voigtlander also do 
an M-MFT adapter which seems to be well thought of, so I'll also consider one 
of those.

190 options is way too many for me. I know what I like, and I try to keep it 
simple, so I've already read the manual and set up the camera; I'll have a play 
with it tomorrow. Not a bad idea to write it down though.

Cheers,
B

> On 31 Aug 2019, at 23:45, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
> 
> Hi Bob! 
> 
> I have a lot of experience with the E-M1 ... still have mine. It and the E-M1 
> II are truly excellent cameras. 
> 
> The E-M1 (and mark II) differ from all the other Olympus bodies in that they 
> are the only ones that have the phase detect sencels on the imager chip and 
> focus the FourThirds SLR lenses better than any of the other models do. The 
> Olympus MMF-3 (FT->mFT adapter with weather sealing) is an excellent deal for 
> these lenses and does exactly the right thing. My ZD 35 Macro, ZD 11-22, and 
> ZD 50-200 lenses have been the mainstay of what I used on the E-M1 ... All 
> superb performers that focus quickly and accurately on the E-M1. They never 
> focused quite as crisply on the E-PL7 or (borrowed) E-M5 or my Lumix G1. 
> These lenses are/were considered by Olympus to be part of the E-M1 lens 
> lineup, and they perform as well with the E-M1 as with the E-1, E-3, and E-5 
> ... or better.
> 
> With respect to other lenses, M-mount lenses are often not at their best 
> adapted to these bodies. Olympus uses a very thick sensor stack that is often 
> at odds with RF lens designs. I discovered that the relatively inexpensive, 
> consumer-grade Olympus ZD 25 out-performed my Leica Elmar-M 24mm quite 
> noticeably on the E-M1. After that, I basically abandoned using M-mount 
> lenses on these bodies. 
> 
> Adapted SLR lenses, like the Pentax K mounts, do a good bit better than 
> M-mount lenses. I tried a large number of different adapters over the 
> years—finally gave up and bought Novoflex adapters for Leica R and Nikon F 
> mounts (I didn't have any Pentax K lenses left at that point). Pricey but 
> they worked correctly and the unit by unit variability went away. 
> 
> In the end I found that adapting other mount lenses, other than FourThirds 
> SLR mount, just wasn't all that great on the E-M1 series bodies and just used 
> the three lenses above all the time, and a couple of mFT lenses. The 
> Micro-FourThirds lenses I used the most were the newer version 
> Panasonic-Leica Summilux-DG 25mm f/1.4 ASPH (much more compact than the SLR 
> lens above), the Olympus M.Zuiko 75mm f/1.8, and, my favorite, the 
> Panasonic-Leica Macro-Elmarit-DG 45mm f/2.8 ASPH. 
> 
> It's a great system. The E-M1 bodies are configurable as all heck with over 
> 190 options in the menus...! Take your time learning the options and you can 
> dial the camera in to precisely the configuration that works best for you. 
> AND THEN: Write it down! It makes re-setting everything so much easier if you 
> have to do a full reset at any point. :)
> 
> Best,
> G
> 
>> Bob Pdml  escribió:
>> 
>> ...which is the best make?
>> 
>> 

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Re: OT: Micro 4/3rds adapters

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Thanks

> On 31 Aug 2019, at 20:52, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I was recently given an EPL1 and picked up a couple of Fotasy adapters, 
> probably because they were the least expensive I could find.  They seem to 
> work fine.
> 
> Bob Pdml wrote on 8/31/19 12:32 PM:
>> ...which is the best make?
>> I had a small windfall, so I have bought me an Olympus E-M1 II + 12-40/2.8 
>> lens to take cycling with me, replacing the Fuji X20 that is becoming 
>> increasingly difficult to peer through.
>> I have already an Olympus E-3, which I haven't used for years, and a set of 
>> very good lenses, so I will probably buy the official Olympus adapter for 
>> those, if there is such a thing.
>> I would also like to put my Leica and Voigtlander M-mount lenses on, and I 
>> have a couple of Pentax lenses too, so why not?
>> There seems to be no end of presumably Chinese-made adapters out there, but 
>> I have no idea if any of them are any good. So if those of you who engage in 
>> body-glass promiscuity of this persuasion could give me some tips I'd be 
>> very grateful.
>> Ta,
>> Bob
> 
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Re: OT: Micro 4/3rds adapters

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Thanks. That's made of aluminium, which isn't a good match with steel... not on 
bicycles, anyway, and I don't want to be smearing copper grease on my bayonet 
before I mount. I read somewhere that the aluminium ones leave microscopic 
splinters in the lens mouth, and I think I'd rather not take the risk.

> On 31 Aug 2019, at 23:02, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 31/8/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> There seems to be no end of presumably Chinese-made adapters out there,
>> but I have no idea if any of them are any good. So if those of you who
>> engage in body-glass promiscuity of this persuasion could give me some
>> tips I'd be very grateful.
> 
> I settled on Kiwifotos adapters - I have 3 Pentax K to MFT, and an M39 to MFT:
> 
> <https://tinyurl.com/y54vl8dj>
> 
> (links to amazon web page)
> 
> Quality is good and no loose bits on mine. Sturdy release mech, good fit, 
> what's not to like. Cheap enough that I bought an adapter for each lens and 
> left them on.
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> Cheers,
>  Cotty
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Re: OT: Micro 4/3rds adapters

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Thanks. Which adapter are you using?

> On 31 Aug 2019, at 22:54, Vier  wrote:
> 
> Before you buy anything, try to do some test shots with the adapter,
> autofocus speed varies A LOT with different lenses.
> 
> My main camera is an Olympus EM5, and with adapted 4/3 lenses autofocus
> speed and accuracy is terrible at best. Half the times I can’t lock focus,
> and the times I get it right it takes so long it’s pointless.
> 
> Not really a big deal for me as I mostly shoot with old manual focus
> lenses, but you should take it into account.
> 
>> El El sáb, 31 ago. 2019 a las 16:32, Bob Pdml  escribió:
>> 
>> ...which is the best make?
>> 
>> 

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OT: Micro 4/3rds adapters

[Bob Pdml]

...which is the best make?

I had a small windfall, so I have bought me an Olympus E-M1 II + 12-40/2.8 lens 
to take cycling with me, replacing the Fuji X20 that is becoming increasingly 
difficult to peer through.

I have already an Olympus E-3, which I haven't used for years, and a set of 
very good lenses, so I will probably buy the official Olympus adapter for 
those, if there is such a thing.

I would also like to put my Leica and Voigtlander M-mount lenses on, and I have 
a couple of Pentax lenses too, so why not?

There seems to be no end of presumably Chinese-made adapters out there, but I 
have no idea if any of them are any good. So if those of you who engage in 
body-glass promiscuity of this persuasion could give me some tips I'd be very 
grateful.

Ta,
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Re: OT: The Life of Riley

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Well, at least your dog hasn't run away.

> On 31 Aug 2019, at 16:23, John  wrote:
> 
> There are times when I feel like this guy:
> 
> https://browse.startpage.com/do/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.speedsterowners.com%2FfileSendAction%2FfcType%2F0%2FfcOid%2F586079529002386241%2FfilePointer%2F586079529002386275%2Ffodoid%2F586079529002386251%2FimageType%2FLARGE%2FinlineImage%2Ftrue%2F1.%2520Joe%2520Btfsplk.2.jpg&sp=8c22b16ede779c99ddb00ae9d577bfac&t=air
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y55rj2bx
> 
> By the "law of averages", there must be some guy living on the opposite end 
> of the bell curve; someone who *DOES* have "all the luck".
> 
> Y'all should be glad you've got me around to absorb all the bad luck. How 
> does the song go, "If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all"?
> 
> I managed to mostly recreate my Troy-Bilt file with a couple of hours 
> internet searching; good enough to identify the parts I need. It's now 
> duplicated on two hard-drives & as soon as I get a round tuit, I'm gonna get 
> another off site backup set up.
> 
> The thing about backups, is no matter how good you think they are, they're 
> never bullet-proof. There's always something you forgot, but you never find 
> out what that is until you need it and don't have it.
> 
> My parts are ordered & have already shipped. Should be here by next weekend.
> 
> It's a glorious day out there today. I've already been out a couple of times 
> to play with the dog, and I *might* even find some time to cut the damn grass 
> today ... or tomorrow, or Monday, or Mañana ...
> 
>> On 8/31/2019 03:10:39, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> You must spend a lot of time sitting with your head in your hands, asking 
>> "Why me, oh Lord? Why does it always happen to me?"
>> To quote the great Eric Cantona,"as flies to wanton boys are we to the gods".
>>>> On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:02, John  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 8/18/2019 17:24:38, John wrote:
>>>> ... or to quote William Bendix, "What a revolting development this is!"
>>>> MY second hard-drive (Drive 'D:') just crashed with no warning. BIOS 
>>>> doesn't recognize it. Dead as a door-nail.
>>> 
>>> Update: I thought I had pretty much recovered everything of importance ...
>>> 
>>> I have an OLD, OLD (1979?) Troy-Bilt SuperTomahawk Chipper/Shredder that I 
>>> use to chop up tree limbs & other yard waste for composting.
>>> 
>>> It's getting into the time of year I use it the most. Yesterday one of the 
>>> shaft bearings shredded itself.
>>> 
>>> NO BIGGIE! The bearings were a standard size & design and they're still 
>>> used today. I've already rebuilt the thing twice, so I won't have any 
>>> problems replacing the bearing. I've got a whole file full of parts 
>>> diagrams, manuals and a list of suppliers. I can get the part number & 
>>> order a new one.
>>> 
>>> Guess where the file with all the part numbers was located.  Oh the irony 
>>> ... and it's not even Monday.
>>> 
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Re: OT: The Life of Riley

[Bob Pdml]

You must spend a lot of time sitting with your head in your hands, asking "Why 
me, oh Lord? Why does it always happen to me?" 

To quote the great Eric Cantona,"as flies to wanton boys are we to the gods".

> On 30 Aug 2019, at 15:02, John  wrote:
> 
>> On 8/18/2019 17:24:38, John wrote:
>> ... or to quote William Bendix, "What a revolting development this is!"
>> MY second hard-drive (Drive 'D:') just crashed with no warning. BIOS doesn't 
>> recognize it. Dead as a door-nail.
> 
> Update: I thought I had pretty much recovered everything of importance ...
> 
> I have an OLD, OLD (1979?) Troy-Bilt SuperTomahawk Chipper/Shredder that I 
> use to chop up tree limbs & other yard waste for composting.
> 
> It's getting into the time of year I use it the most. Yesterday one of the 
> shaft bearings shredded itself.
> 
> NO BIGGIE! The bearings were a standard size & design and they're still used 
> today. I've already rebuilt the thing twice, so I won't have any problems 
> replacing the bearing. I've got a whole file full of parts diagrams, manuals 
> and a list of suppliers. I can get the part number & order a new one.
> 
> Guess where the file with all the part numbers was located.  Oh the irony ... 
> and it's not even Monday.
> 
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Re: GESO (6) - Grounds for Sculpture

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Some lovely photos there

> On 28 Aug 2019, at 01:53, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Grounds for Sculpture is a combination outdoor gallery and park in central 
> New Jersey, established by Seward Johnson II, of the Johnson & Johnson 
> family.  We joined our daughter, son, and daughter-in-law there for lunch and 
> a walk about the grounds last weekend.
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Grounds-for-Sculpture-819/
> 
> All taken with K-5 and DA 17-70.
> 
> Comments always appreciated.
> 
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Re: A party in the the salt marshes of Norfolk

[Bob Pdml]

Your wish is my command (I think). This should be full size, or as large as LR 
will render:
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0I532ODWGrCKVN

The appeal of the scene to me, in addition to the intrinsic weirdness, is the 
compositional similarity to Dutch landscape paintings, so detail is of lesser 
importance, but a large-scale painting would of course reveal detail, though 
not in photographic resolution.

I shot it with my Fuji X20, handheld, so it's not of plate-camera quality...

> On 28 Aug 2019, at 01:56, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> I like it, but wish that it was considerably larger so that detail was 
> clearer.
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 6:47 AM, Bob Pdml  wrote:
>> 
>> I've been cycle-touring in the east of England this week. Here's a scene we 
>> came across on Sunday, in Norfolk:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B1qRymSAYA0/?igshid=155gygutf6ijf
>> 
>> B
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Re: A party in the the salt marshes of Norfolk

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It was the hottest late-August holiday weekend ever, so they decided to make it 
hotter by having a barbecue, or braai, on the beach.

> 
> 
> Now that's a weird one, Bob. What on earth is that Broad minded bunch up to?
> 
>> On 27-Aug-19 12:47 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> I've been cycle-touring in the east of England this week. Here's a scene we 
>> came across on Sunday, in Norfolk:
>> 
>> https://www.instagram.com/p/B1qRymSAYA0/?igshid=155gygutf6ijf
>> 
>> B
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A party in the the salt marshes of Norfolk

[Bob Pdml]

I've been cycle-touring in the east of England this week. Here's a scene we 
came across on Sunday, in Norfolk:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1qRymSAYA0/?igshid=155gygutf6ijf

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Re: OT: England in the Dark?

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> On 18 Aug 2019, at 20:18, John  wrote:
> 
> On 8/18/2019 12:44:36, Bob Pdml wrote:
>>> On 18 Aug 2019, at 13:39, John  wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> On 8/17/2019 11:30:41, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>>>> Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor PDML-StR:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Caption under that picture:
>>>>> "Problems with the power due to new winds blowing."
>>>> Shouldn't that read "The wrong type of wind"?
>>>> Ralf
>>> 
>>> I'm pretty sure you can use hot air to generate electricity.
>> It all went a bit wrong again yesterday:
>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-49375917
> 
> Did the demolition cause the outage or was it just what Popeye used to call a 
> co-inky-dense?
> 

I blame Boris.


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Re: OT: England in the Dark?

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> On 18 Aug 2019, at 13:39, John  wrote:
> 
>> On 8/17/2019 11:30:41, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
>>> Am 17.08.19 um 16:47 schrieb Igor PDML-StR:
>>> 
>>> Caption under that picture:
>>> "Problems with the power due to new winds blowing."
>> Shouldn't that read "The wrong type of wind"?
>> Ralf
> 
> I'm pretty sure you can use hot air to generate electricity.

It all went a bit wrong again yesterday:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-49375917


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Re: OT: England in the Dark?

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> On 10 Aug 2019, at 14:37, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> The Dark Ages were from the departure of the Romans in 410AD to the arrival 
> of William the Conqueror in 1066AD. There was a heat wave in those times 
> which enabled grapes to be grown as far north as York.
> 
> Alan c
>> 

The Dark Ages? Isn't that what they called it when this island was isolated 
from the continent, broken into small fragmentary warring fiefdoms that the 
Wessex English, under a hereditary group of families centred on the Eton, 
Oxford and Cambridge areas, tried unsuccessfully to control?


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Re: OT: England in the Dark?

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> On 10 Aug 2019, at 15:55, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> Bob forgot to put threepence in the meter.

We won't need electricity after Brexit, we'll all be burning in Hell.

> 
>> On 10 August 2019 at 13:34 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So, what is going on in the UK?  A million people in the dark?
>> Is this related to the Great European Heat Wave?
>> 
>> Keep cool over there .  .  .  .
>> 
>> 
>> 

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Re: OT: England in the Dark?

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> On 10 Aug 2019, at 19:37, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Due to the loss of those two power sources the remaining sources were
> put under more load and their generators were consequentially slowed
> down. This in turn lead to a drop in mains frequency which is very
> tightly controlled throughout the whole of mainland UK.
> 
> As a first measure, they simply cut off parts of the country and most of
> the rail network in order ...

...for London's espresso machines to remain fully operational

> 
> Here's a more detailed explanation:
> 
> http://mainsfrequency.uk/fm-home
> 
> The current frequency can be seen here:
> 
> http://mainsfrequency.uk/fm-meter
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Re: OT: England in the Dark?

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> On 10 Aug 2019, at 16:42, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 10/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> So, what is going on in the UK?  A million people in the dark?
>> Is this related to the Great European Heat Wave?
>> 
>> Keep cool over there .  .  .  .
> 
> No power cut here. Think there was a temporary problem with 2 separate power 
> sources - a power station in Cambridgeshire and a wind farm in the North Sea. 
> Think it led to some outages in various parts of the country and affected 
> things like rail journeys. A minor and rare blip.
> 
> Get to the end of August, then buckle up for te Brexit roller coaster ride!
> 

The Canfucket Sleigh Ride - can we fuck it? Yes, we can!




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Re: August PUG is up!

[Bob Pdml]

The painter Hogarth famously had a pug - it features in a statue in Chiswick, 
London, where they lived.

The pug's name was Trump.


> On 9 Aug 2019, at 04:40, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> Behold the Pug:
> 
> https://tinyurl.com/y44wonx2
> 
>> On 8/8/2019 2:55 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:
>> Being a non-native English reader pug means for me only one thing (up till 
>> now).
>> 
>> Henk
>> 
>> Op 2019-08-08 om 03:48 schreef Mark Roberts:
>>> Given the theme this month I'm very disappointed that no one submitted
>>> a photo of a pug...
>> 
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Re: More critters from Moss Landing

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In case you're not familiar with the mendacious career of Lyin' Boris:
https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2016/06/21/482952581/bendy-bananas-and-barmaid-bosoms-the-u-k-s-crazy-anti-eu-food-myths

> On 9 Aug 2019, at 04:10, P. J. Alling  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't call a straight banana the enemy, but it is a heresy.
> 
>> On 8/8/2019 3:39 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> This is the enemy:
>> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0I532ODWGrCKVN;BCACDDC2-2793-4F67-B945-F11E6B0D9C4F
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 8 Aug 2019, at 19:54, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Don't worry;  the British are in the process of dismantling the EU.
>>> 
>>> Dan Matyola
>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:42 PM Steffen Zahn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> For some reason this redirects to a page with
>>>> 
>>>> „It appears that you’re attempting to visit this site from a location in
>>>> the European Union. At this point in time we regret to say we cannot make
>>>> this site available to you. Please visit our home page eu.usatoday.com“
>>>> 
>>>> ML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
>>>> 
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Re: GESO: Snaps from Colorado

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A lot of nice stuff, it looks like a great place.

B

> On 8 Aug 2019, at 20:20, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> 
> Here's a gallery of shots from my trip to Colorado last week. This is
> a temporary gallery because it includes some personal friends & family
> shots that will get deleted when it moves to the main section of my
> web site.
> 
> https://robertstech.com/temp/colorado2019/index.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: More critters from Moss Landing

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This is the enemy:
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0I532ODWGrCKVN;BCACDDC2-2793-4F67-B945-F11E6B0D9C4F



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> 
> Don't worry;  the British are in the process of dismantling the EU.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 12:42 PM Steffen Zahn  wrote:
>> 
>> For some reason this redirects to a page with
>> 
>> „It appears that you’re attempting to visit this site from a location in
>> the European Union. At this point in time we regret to say we cannot make
>> this site available to you. Please visit our home page eu.usatoday.com“
>> 
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Re: I'm Getting Married...

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Congratulations and cent'anni!

> On 7 Aug 2019, at 14:58, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> In the morning. Well, it’s actually early afternoon this Saturday, but that 
> spoils the alliteration. We didn’t hire a wedding photographer. Too expensive 
> for a couple of septuagenarians. So we’re counting on the small number of 
> friends and relatives present to shoot a lot of cell phone pics. Should be 
> fun. I know my bride is always entertaining in addition to being a great 
> partner. We both lost our partners to the afterlife following  long, happy 
> marriages, so we’re looking forward to life, part two.
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Re: GESO Bear Creek Redwoods

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No bears, no creek and the woods ain't red. Some photographer!


> On 4 Aug 2019, at 22:03, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I didn't know redwoods had such colorful flowers.
> 😀
> 
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> 
>> On Sun, Aug 4, 2019 at 3:29 AM Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> I was driving home from San Jose a couple weeks ago and stopped by a new
>> regional park that just opened up.
>> 
>> I only walked a short ways up the trail, and took a few photos.
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157710063773342
>> 
>> C&C appreciated as always
>> 
>> Here’s the website:
>> https://www.openspace.org/preserves/bear-creek-redwoods
>> 
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>> 
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Re: OT: possibly politics

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>> Ok, I’ll call you Cynical.
>> So, Cynical, Mike, and Cotty - am I correct to assume that the borders will 
>> still be open when I travel there on 4 October this year? (Via train from 
>> Paris.)
>> 
>> And how about next year? Next May we are coming in via Southampton. Any 
>> crystal ball readings on whether we can get across to mainland Europe 
>> without detention at the border?
>> 
>> stan
> 
> Nobody knows, even though most people have an opinion.  That is. of course, 
> only one step above everyone having a bunghole.
> 

I have more than one. 

Opinion, that is.

4 October this year won't be a problem as we're not due to close down until 31 
October. I don't think next year will be a problem either as by then we will 
have become one of the United States Minor Outlying Islands, so you won't even 
need a passport.



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Re: OT: possibly politics

[Bob Pdml]

> On 2 Aug 2019, at 18:53, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 2/8/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I fear the UK will now find itself in a similar situation.
> 
> Not so fast buster.
> 
> It could be all change shortly - Bonkers Boris could be one of the shortest 
> incumbent PMs in history. I would lay money down we will be having a general 
> election within 3 months, with Brexit on hold - possibly even cancelled 
> depending on the outcome.
> 
> Boris is making all the sounds of heading to a no deal Brexit. Parliament 
> will not allow it - he will get voted down, leading to a vote of no 
> confidence and triggering an election. Even if he suspends parliament to try 
> and force it through, he will still haver to go see the Queen to have it 
> given Royal Ascent - which, without a rubber stamp from parliament, she will 
> not do. Catch-22.
> 
> There are plenty of outcomes still available - a lot still to play for here!
> 

Call me cynical...

https://youtu.be/WX_96uKZ7yQ


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Re: OT: How to kill a wasp nest

[Bob Pdml]

> On 1 Aug 2019, at 18:35, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 1/8/19, John, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Of course, their definition of "mess with them" is pretty broad
> 
> They cook very well.

That's why they come with ready-prepared chargrill stripes
> 
> -

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Re: PESO: The Lion Sleeps Tonight

[Bob Pdml]

He must have been thinking of Jane Fonda...

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/news-photo/jane-fonda-actress-usaas-cat-ballou-1964-news-photo/541534185

Go for the burn!



> On 29 Jul 2019, at 07:08, mike wilson  wrote:
> 
> I did wonder
> 
>> On 29 July 2019 at 06:38 Alan C  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Whoops! Owl, not Cat.
>> 
>>> On 29-Jul-19 07:15 AM, Alan C wrote:
>>> Nice shots Dan. Those guys must spend a fortune on their hobby. Seldom 
>>> get any in this part of the world but there are some in the big centres.
>>> 
>>> Here is a shot of a Cat Balloon I took at Farnham, UK, on our visit in 
>>> 2017
>>> 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/48401863462/
>>> 
>>> K5 with Makinon 500mm f8. About a mile distant.
>>> 
>>> Alan C
>>> 
>>> On 29-Jul-19 03:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> From the NJ Festival of Ballooning:
 
 http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/28/lion
 
 K-5 IIs, Tamron XR LD [IF]28-300 mm Macro F 3.5-6.3
> 
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Re: Pushing up daisies

[Bob Pdml]

> On 24 Jul 2019, at 12:45, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 24/7/19, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> ...mortality
> 
> Haha - surely you'll live forever mate !
> 

That's the plan... not entirely sure that my cardiovascular system is fully on 
board with it though.




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Re: Pushing up daisies

[Bob Pdml]

Thanks to all who commented.

The unkemptness of the cemetery is artfully maintained. It's very popular and 
well looked-after, even though you have to pay an entrance fee these days.

While I was there with a pal who visiting the cemetery for the first time we 
met a young man who asked us to take his picture as he introduced his week-old 
son to the grave of his best friend who died young a few years ago. It was 
quite touching.


> On 24 Jul 2019, at 04:50, Alan C  wrote:
> 
> When I was there some years ago, much of the cemetery was heavily overgrown. 
> A few souls were trying to remedy the situation. Photography was forbidden on 
> pain of joining some of the most eminent ghosts of Britain. Looks like you 
> escaped!
> 
> Alan C
> 
>> On 23-Jul-19 10:00 PM, Bob Pdml wrote:
>> A shot from Highgate cemetery on Sunday:
>> 
>> https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/00f4c7321374431ea848517ce1613814/albums/775e41e7fe91462d820fd3ba97d4cc07/assets/d808ccf41e01446a84156c8e2cdec833
>> 
>> 

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Lordship Lane

[Bob Pdml]

Another one from the weekend. 

This view:
https://lightroom.adobe.com/shares/00f4c7321374431ea848517ce1613814/albums/775e41e7fe91462d820fd3ba97d4cc07/assets/cba2bd58c99947a8991153eca82e0476

was taken from the same spot that this was painted, in 1871:
https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/art/great-works/great-works-lordship-lane-station-dulwich-1871-camille-pissarro-2033005.html

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