Re: OT? Cormorant

[Igor PDML-StR]

That seems to be in UK.


Henk Terhell Thu, 15 Sep 2022 15:17:21 -0700 wrote:

This was added to wikipedia on 15 september by somebody with IP
81.102.20.141(hm...)


Henk

Op do 15 sep. 2022 om 15:15 schreef mike wilson :



 A development.  Last paragraph.





https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormorant#In_folklore,_literature,_and_art
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Re: OT? Cormorant

[Igor PDML-StR]

Our cover is blown!



That must be some insider's job! :)

So, is the original image of the Cormorant Times still available 
somewhere? I couldn't find it anywhere, beyond an outdated link to a 
temporary location on Mark's server:


https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg316503.html


And, yet another thought: maybe the author would want to upload it to the 
said Wikipedia page as an illustration?


Igor



ann sanfedele Thu, 15 Sep 2022 08:05:39 -0700 wrote:

wow - 15 minutes of fame :-)

love it



On 9/15/2022 9:15 AM, mike wilson wrote:

  A development.  Last paragraph.




https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormorant#In_folklore,_literature,_and_art
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Re: Pentax 18-250 - stuck in the "locked" zoomed out position

[Igor PDML-StR]

A delayed follow-up:

The rubber grip is not glued, and it was much easier to pull it up and 
fold a half of it over the rest than I was expecting.

Tightening the screw fixed the issue completely.

It took 2-3 minutes once I had the lens and the right tools (a bamboo 
splint and a very small Phillips screwdriver)  at the same location,

and the courage to do it. :-)

Cheers,
Igor


On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Thank you! If it is not a big problem for you to ask about the culprit (see 
below), - I'd appreciate.


I've found this "recipe" and tempted to try it:
http://usefulbulk.com/pentaxlens/

I wonder how "universal" the solution (and the culprit) discussed there.

I am also thinking how to deal with the rubber grip (Is it glued? What would 
I do if it breaks?)


All suggestions are appreciated.


BTW, my FA 77/1.8 Ltd 's focus also got stuck on the same day.
Outbreak of Lensovid-22? ;-)


Igor

Underpaid N. Overpentaxed Tue, 14 Jun 2022 08:42:27 -0700

I had that. Known issue. Pentax EU HQ in Germany fixed mine free of charge.
I know the son of their retired head of service. I can try to ask.
Cheers
Eck


Igor PDML-StR  schrieb am Di. 14. Juni 2022 um 17:37:



On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi All!

I have Pentax 18-250 lens - the one designed with (by) Tamron, - the 
earlier version of it. Suddenly, I cannot zoom in with it, - it is stuck in 
the shortest focal length position.
This lens has a "lock" - to prevent it from extending accidentally (under 
its own weight). I wonder if something happened inside this lock, and the 
top piece is not engaged with the inner part of the locking mechanism.


Has anybody experienced this?
Has anybody seen a drawing of this lock's design?
Any suggestions on how to get it "unstuck"?


Igor





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Sudden problem with the viewing adjustments in LightRoom - any ideas?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All!

All of a sudden, I started having a problem in the old LightRoom (v5.x) 
on Windows (10):
Any adjustments I make are not shown on the photograph shown in the middle 
of LR workspace. Also, it doesn't show any changes in the preview panel 
for sharpening and noise reduction (under "Detail").
Also, sometimes, if I am making image adjustments, LR stops showing the 
active image at all, with only the grey frame as a place holder.


I have already tried to move away Lightroom 5 Preferences.agprefs file
in C:\Users\{Username}\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Lightroom\Preferences
thus allowing LR to regenerate it with the default settings. That did not 
help.


Here are the things that have happened since everything worked just fine:
1. Computer crashed during a power outage. I do not remember if LR was 
running at that point or not.

2. Windows 10 update was installed.

And the first symptoms were that LR was not showing on the imported photos 
that a smart preview was active.

Also, sometimes, it was not showing

So, I've created a new catalog, removed the preference files, - and 
the smart previews started working again.
But the changes are still not shown on the photos or in the side panel 
"Details" - for sharpening and noise control.
Also, sometimes it shows just the gray frame instead of the photo. I have 
to move to a different photo and come back to load the image.


I am torn between two possible reasons: something got damages in the 
installation, and I should reinstall, or, something changed in the Windows 
libraries/API, and that prevents LR from showing the images properly.


Has anybody heard about this type of problems?
Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thank you,
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Re: Pentax 18-250 - stuck in the "locked" zoomed out position

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you! If it is not a big problem for you to ask about the culprit 
(see below), - I'd appreciate.


I've found this "recipe" and tempted to try it:
http://usefulbulk.com/pentaxlens/

I wonder how "universal" the solution (and the culprit) discussed there.

I am also thinking how to deal with the rubber grip (Is it glued? What 
would I do if it breaks?)


All suggestions are appreciated.


BTW, my FA 77/1.8 Ltd 's focus also got stuck on the same day.
Outbreak of Lensovid-22? ;-)


Igor

 Underpaid N. Overpentaxed Tue, 14 Jun 2022 08:42:27 -0700

I had that. Known issue. Pentax EU HQ in Germany fixed mine free of 
charge.

I know the son of their retired head of service. I can try to ask.
Cheers
Eck


Igor PDML-StR  schrieb am Di. 14. Juni 2022 um 17:37:



On Tue, 14 Jun 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Hi All!

I have Pentax 18-250 lens - the one designed with (by) Tamron, - the earlier 
version of it. Suddenly, I cannot zoom in with it, - it is stuck in the 
shortest focal length position.
This lens has a "lock" - to prevent it from extending accidentally (under its 
own weight). I wonder if something happened inside this lock, and the top 
piece is not engaged with the inner part of the locking mechanism.


Has anybody experienced this?
Has anybody seen a drawing of this lock's design?
Any suggestions on how to get it "unstuck"?


Igor



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Pentax 18-250 - stuck in the "locked" zoomed out position

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All!

I have Pentax 18-250 lens - the one designed with (by) Tamron, - the 
earlier version of it. Suddenly, I cannot zoom in with it, - it is stuck 
in the shortest focal length position.
This lens has a "lock" - to prevent it from extending accidentally (under 
its own weight). I wonder if something happened inside this lock, and the 
top piece is not engaged with the inner part of the locking mechanism.


Has anybody experienced this?
Has anybody seen a drawing of this lock's design?
Any suggestions on how to get it "unstuck"?


Igor
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Unusually big meteor shower tonight ?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All,

I've just heard on the news that they except one-in-life-time meteor 
shower tonight (US time), - with the peak between 12:45am (Tuesday) EDT

and 1:something (30? 50?)am.

They expect up to 1000 "shooting stars" per hour rate.

I am surprised nobody has mentioned it here...

I hope this message coudl be useful to someone

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Re: PESO - Cherry blossom

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Ann and Larry, and everybody else who looked!

Igor


 Larry Colen Wed, 27 Apr 2022 15:58:21 -0700 wrote:



On Apr 27, 2022, at 3:56 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:

Igor - nice geometry :-) pretty flowers..

for some reason I didn't see this until others replied to you... that happens
every now and then


Likewise,  very nice




ann

On 4/25/2022 4:24 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Igor, I really like the almost-mysterious-looking background and the
luminance of the flowers. Very nice!

Rick


On Apr 25, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Lovely!

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 5:39 PM Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


... or, rather, photo Not that often.

I haven't done much of photography lately.
The spring weather and variety of blossoms/flowers gave some
inspiration...

http://42graphy.org/misc/2022-04-10-arboretum/_IR09225.jpg

( K-1 with a Pentax D FA 100 mm F2.8 Macro )

All comments are welcome!

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Re: PESO - Cherry blossom

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you Dan and Rick!

Rick, that's the type of the effect I was pursuing.
It took some digital "burning" in LR, and edge sharpening that
mentioned in my comment on your image, - to strengthen that effect.

It also took several shots - (7 with this branch and 25 with this 
tree) from which I was selecting.
(A couple of those were featured in the "artifact" message that 
I've sent about two weeks ago.)



Igor

 Rick Womer Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:24:39 -0700 wrote:

Igor, I really like the almost-mysterious-looking background and the 
luminance

of the flowers. Very nice!


Rick

On Apr 25, 2022, at 1:47 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  

wrote:


Lovely!

Dan Matyola
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On Sun, Apr 24, 2022 at 5:39 PM Igor PDML-StR  

wrote:




... or, rather, photo Not that often.

I haven't done much of photography lately.
The spring weather and variety of blossoms/flowers gave some
inspiration...

http://42graphy.org/misc/2022-04-10-arboretum/_IR09225.jpg

( K-1 with a Pentax D FA 100 mm F2.8 Macro )

All comments are welcome!

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Re: GESO: April Flowers

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Dan,

Lovely flowers well captured!
The spring, indeed brought many wonderful colors, - very inspiring!

The very first one, "Dogwood Buds" has the most unusual point of view (to 
me), and hence the overall look.


It is different for different people, - but for my taste, in some cases, - 
I would consider framing with just a bit more space around the "main 
subject", - so that the flower (on inflorescence) is not filling up the 
entire frame.
From taking photos of similar subjects, I know that it is often difficult 

to do that while not crowding the image. It might still be worth trying.

Cheers,

Igor


Daniel J. Matyola Fri, 22 Apr 2022 21:19:01 -0700 wrote:

We had some pleasant weather recently, so I walked around our yard to 
check on the progress of the spring flora, and I put together a little 
gallery of some of the more interesting spring blossoms:



http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2022/4/23/april-flowers

K-5 IIs, smc DA 35 mm Macro F 2.8 Limited

Comments, questions, criticisms, and suggestions are invited and
appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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PESO - Red Maple

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's a lovely photo, Rick!
I like how those pink "helos" contrast with the green.

I would consider playing with one thing - to further separate the in-focus 
leaves in the middle from the OOF background: to slightly sharpen the 
edges (while setting the sharpening mask to a sufficiently high value so 
that only the edges get sharpened). - That's a handy trick I've learned 
long time ago from someone on this list (IIRC).


Cheers,
Igor




Rick Womer Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:20:35 -0700 wrote:

We have a red maple in front of our house, whose seeds are developing
colorfully. Today I photographed it through a third-floor window with the 
K-5 and my 80-320 lens.



https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2022/April-2022/Flowering-Trees/i-Nxc9TW4/A

Comments always appreciated!

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PESO - Cherry blossom

[Igor PDML-StR]

... or, rather, photo Not that often.

I haven't done much of photography lately.
The spring weather and variety of blossoms/flowers gave some 
inspiration...


http://42graphy.org/misc/2022-04-10-arboretum/_IR09225.jpg

( K-1 with a Pentax D FA 100 mm F2.8 Macro )

All comments are welcome!

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Re: Geology...?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Yeah,
I am torn between a rock and a geyser place.

Cheers,
Igor


ann sanfedele Wed, 20 Apr 2022 13:10:29 -0700

Sand and clay are just rocks that have been weathered by water and wind ..


rocks in a stream bed make pretty pictures., but the outline of a coast 
works just fine..



geology is everywhere.. the pattern a stream makes  .. and so on..

ann


On 4/20/2022 3:44 PM, Henk Terhell wrote:

I was also wondering 'what will rock' as there is only sand and clay and no
rocks to choose from around here (other than the basalt rocks imported for
use on dikes and dams).

Henk


Op wo 20 apr. 2022 om 21:22 schreef :

I'm sure that what ever you choose will rock.

On April 20, 2022 12:18:28 PM PDT, Ralf R Radermacher 
wrote:

The end of the wor... oops... the month is near and I'm trying to 
figure
out what kind of photos one would show under the title "geology"...

Ralf
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Re: Interesting artifact

[Igor PDML-StR]

Alan,

That's a wonderful OctoPi-centric hypothesis!
;-)

Cheers,
Igor

 Alan C Sat, 16 Apr 2022 00:18:26 -0700

Igor, what about this?

"Despite the prevailing notion of extraterrestrial ships as round flying 
saucers, there have been reports of octagonal UFOs. Apparently, even 
aliens find the octagon an appealing shape".



Alan C

On 15-Apr-22 08:15 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I thought some people here might find this curious:
It is interesting to see 5[!] images of the aperture.
Pentax D FA 100 mm F2.8 Macro (not "WR") @ f/5.6
(The lens has 9 elements in 8 groups.)
Some other images from this setting showed only 4.

Never mind the central part of the photo - this is one of the images to be 
deleted. I did not crop it out just to show the context of how the image was 
taken:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09244.jpg

I cannot say that I _fully_ understand how all these images are formed, - 
especially after looking at this photo:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09238.jpg
This has up to 8-9 aperture spots, but some of them are motion-blured.
The camera was hand-held, with the motion reduction enabled.
I am guessing that the motion-blur comes from the camera shake, not 
compensated by the sensor. But it also makes me wondering if all these

aperture images are effectively just the same single image  - due to a
reflection from the sensor that moves as the sensor compensates for the 
camera shake.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Igor



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Re: Interesting artifact

[Igor PDML-StR]

As far as I understand how (sensor-based) shake reduction works is that 
the sensor is moved to compensate for the motion of the camera - but only 
for the object that are in the focal plane (or close to it).
Things that are closer or farther also benefit from that, but to a lesser 
degree.


That place has no fence or anything behind. It has the rest of the tree 
behind: I was shooting somewhat against the light. I do not think this 
aperture images are due to multiple light sources from the back.


I do not have a complete picture (in my head) of how the aperture images 
show up in this case, and, especially why they are all aligned along one 
straight [!] line. I suspect that they might be due to a reflection from 
the sensor.
In that case, I could imagine how the sensor motion alone one line (around 
one axis) could create multiple aperture images.


Igor


Larry Colen Fri, Apr 15, 2022 9:42 PM:


On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Larry,

You are probably right about the light coming from the background.
What I am not understanding completely is why all the aperture
images are perfectly aligned along a straight line.

If my assumption is correct that it is a SR that creates that motion, 
projecting this aperture images onto different portions of the sensor, - then 
why is it in a straight line? I'd assume my shaking hands to be moving less 
linearly.




If it was due to SR then you would get all sorts of linear blur all over 
the place.


I would guess that part of what ever was mostly blocking the light was 
pretty much a straight boundary, like a fence or a tree trunk.


Going back, I’d say holes in a fence.  No way would shake reduction make 
that much of a blur.


Were those taken someplace you could go back to?  Do you have any other 
photos of the site? Do you have geotagging so you can look at it on google 
streetview or something?





Igor




Larry Colen Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:25:02 -0700 wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I thought some people here might find this curious:
It is interesting to see 5[!] images of the aperture.
Pentax D FA 100 mm F2.8 Macro (not "WR") @ f/5.6
(The lens has 9 elements in 8 groups.)
Some other images from this setting showed only 4.

Never mind the central part of the photo - this is one of the images to be 
deleted. I did not crop it out just to show the context of how the image 
was taken:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09244.jpg

I cannot say that I _fully_ understand how all these images are formed, - 
especially after looking at this photo:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09238.jpg
This has up to 8-9 aperture spots, but some of them are motion-blured.
The camera was hand-held, with the motion reduction enabled.
I am guessing that the motion-blur comes from the camera shake, not 
compensated by the sensor. But it also makes me wondering if all these

aperture images are effectively just the same single image  - due to a
reflection from the sensor that moves as the sensor compensates for the 
camera shake.

Any thoughts?



I suspect that if you had stopped the camera down you would see points of 
light

coming through the foliage in the background.

I think it’s just standard bokeh of point light sources in the background,
especially since I see a bunch of other vaguely MG logos in other portions of
the image.


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Re: Interesting artifact

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry,

You are probably right about the light coming from the background.
What I am not understanding completely is why all the aperture
images are perfectly aligned along a straight line.

If my assumption is correct that it is a SR that creates 
that motion, projecting this aperture images onto different portions of 
the sensor, - then why is it in a straight line? I'd assume my shaking 
hands to be moving less linearly.


Igor




 Larry Colen Fri, 15 Apr 2022 11:25:02 -0700 wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I thought some people here might find this curious:
It is interesting to see 5[!] images of the aperture.
Pentax D FA 100 mm F2.8 Macro (not "WR") @ f/5.6
(The lens has 9 elements in 8 groups.)
Some other images from this setting showed only 4.

Never mind the central part of the photo - this is one of the images to be 
deleted. I did not crop it out just to show the context of how the image was 
taken:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09244.jpg

I cannot say that I _fully_ understand how all these images are formed, - 
especially after looking at this photo:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09238.jpg
This has up to 8-9 aperture spots, but some of them are motion-blured.
The camera was hand-held, with the motion reduction enabled.
I am guessing that the motion-blur comes from the camera shake, not 
compensated by the sensor. But it also makes me wondering if all these

aperture images are effectively just the same single image  - due to a
reflection from the sensor that moves as the sensor compensates for the 
camera shake.

Any thoughts?



I suspect that if you had stopped the camera down you would see points of light
coming through the foliage in the background.

I think it’s just standard bokeh of point light sources in the background,
especially since I see a bunch of other vaguely MG logos in other portions of
the image.


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Interesting artifact

[Igor PDML-StR]

I thought some people here might find this curious:
It is interesting to see 5[!] images of the aperture.
Pentax D FA 100 mm F2.8 Macro (not "WR") @ f/5.6
(The lens has 9 elements in 8 groups.)
Some other images from this setting showed only 4.

Never mind the central part of the photo - this is one of the images to be 
deleted. I did not crop it out just to show the context of how the image 
was taken:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09244.jpg

I cannot say that I _fully_ understand how all these images are formed, - 
especially after looking at this photo:

http://42graphy.org/misc/ApertureImages/ApertureImage_IR09238.jpg
This has up to 8-9 aperture spots, but some of them are motion-blured.
The camera was hand-held, with the motion reduction enabled.
I am guessing that the motion-blur comes from the camera shake, not 
compensated by the sensor. But it also makes me wondering if all these

aperture images are effectively just the same single image  - due to a
reflection from the sensor that moves as the sensor compensates for the 
camera shake.

Any thoughts?

Cheers,

Igor
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Re: Today's prize-winning photo goes to ...

[Igor PDML-StR]

https://i.redd.it/gbo6xhxp6vw51.png


 Larry Colen Tue, 15 Mar 2022 16:28:45 -0700 wrote:



On Mar 15, 2022, at 3:48 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:


Brute-force hacking



You’re just jealous because your salad days are behind you.




Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 15 Mar 2022 14:05:18 -0700

You're a Brute!

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On Tue, Mar 15, 2022 at 4:00 PM  wrote:




On March 15, 2022 12:43:18 PM PDT, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>
>On March 15, 2022 12:31:01 PM PDT, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
>>https://twitter.com/mbells/status/1503815493114814468/photo/1
>>--
>The salad was so tasty that I get two

Damn you auto correct, that was supposed to be et two.




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Re: Today's prize-winning photo goes to ...

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brute-force hacking


Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 15 Mar 2022 14:05:18 -0700

You're a Brute!

Dan Matyola
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On March 15, 2022 12:43:18 PM PDT, l...@red4est.com wrote:
>
>On March 15, 2022 12:31:01 PM PDT, coll...@brendemuehl.net wrote:
>>https://twitter.com/mbells/status/1503815493114814468/photo/1
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Damn you auto correct, that was supposed to be et two.


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Re: Big problem in lightroom classic

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi Larry,

Could it be that LR does not handle properly the expansion of "~" as the 
home directory? (E.g. you need to surround it with quotation marks, or 
something like that?)


Sorry, it was rather difficult to understand the step you were doing while 
moving the directories - from your initial posting and from the support 
ticket you filed with Adobe, but I think I've finally understood it from 
your latest response to Godfrey.

I agree it is a weird behavior of LR.

I also had a big problem with LR and file systems: LR (on Windows) refused 
to have its database (catalog) on the Windows network share. At least, 
that was the case with LR 3.x. That prevented me from being able to work 
with the same LR database conveniently from two computers (laptop that 
went with me everywhere and a more powerful desktop that also had PS 
installed on it), with the files sitting on the local file-server.

The only viable solution for that required using an external HDD.

I don't know if LR on Mac allowed the catalog on an NFS-mounted partition.

I actually wonder if the limitations I described might be the reason for 
how LR on Mac works with the softlinks to the directory.


Good luck!

Igor



Larry Colen Mon, Feb 14, 2022 5:48 PM wrote:

I just did a test.  My home directory /Users/lrc is symbolically linked to 
/Volume/ssd_raid/Users/lrc.
If instead of pointing lightroom at ~/photos_fresh I point it to 
/Volume/ssd_raid/Users/lrc/photos_fresh

I can move files from there to my archive drive without problems.

Lightroom breaks on symbolic links.
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Re: OT Epson scanner replacement

[Igor PDML-StR]

Indeed! :-)
And that reminded me the classics, - Jonathan Swift's Gulliver's Travels 
(1726) where the Big-Endians are fighting with Little-Endians.
(For those who doesn't remember that story from the childhood, - see the 
link at the bottom of this message.)



The irony is that that story has a direct relevance to the arguments of
PC/Linux vs. Mac. There is sort of a historic loop closure (which is 
almost 300 years long now).
For those people on this list who don't know, the terms "big-endian" and 
"little-endian" describe how numbers are stored (and processed) in the 
binary representation in the computers (tail-first or head-first, crudely 
speaking).
Ironically, IBM PC's are running on little-endian CPUs (Intel), while Macs 
in 1980s were running on Motorola's 68k CPUs, which were big-endian.
So, the Mac-vs-PC war has been the war between Big-Endians and 
Little-Endians.

:-


And a little be deeper, - which makes it even more relevant to PDML:
This "big" mess has a big implication for all images (today's "digital 
photos"): Images should be read on any platform. More over, in different 
image formats the endianness can be different.
So, the software needs to recognize the kind, and reverse the order 
if needed.
 E.g. TIFFs can be of either type and that is marked by the "signature" at 
the beginning of the file, which is by itself is a palindrom: "II" or 
"MM", so they are endianness-independent.
In contrast, AFAIR, in JPEGs the image portion is big-endian, but exif 
notes can be either (or something like that).



For the history of naming that includes the relevant (and ever-actual) 
passage from Swift's book, see e.g. 
https://www.ling.upenn.edu/courses/Spring_2003/ling538/Lecnotes/ADfn1.htm



Cheers,
Igor


Godfrey DiGiorgi Thu, Jan 27, 2022 7:47 AM wrote:

Of course, whinging and whining about which operating system brand is 
better just seems so 1990s… LOL!


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Re: Ricoh direct marketing cue wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth

[Igor PDML-StR]

Rick,
It's been close to 20 years since I've looked at a Pentax camera or lens 
at a brick-and-mortar store in the US.

(That was at Adorama in 2001).

So, all 4 Pentax DSLRs I've owned (and a bunch of Pentax lenses) were 
purchased by mail, - mostly from B and Adorama.


With the proposed change (if I understand it correctly), Pentax 
products might no longer be available through B, Adorama (and 
Amazon).
The decrease in the number of channels lowers the competition, and that 
drives the prices up. If Ricoh own outlets will be the only source, there 
will be no big Black Friday/Cyber-Monday sales from B/Adorama, as those 
in several pre-pandemic years.


But, as Bill wrote, - Ricoh needs to change something to revive the brand.
The time will tell if they bet on the right horse.


Igor



 Rick Womer Fri, Jan 21, 2022 5:25 PM  wrote:

From my home in Philadelphia (metro population ~1.6 million), the nearest 
Pentax dealers are B and Adorama in New York, a 2 1/2 hour drive away.


So, this isn’t going to make shopping I might do any less convenient.

Rick

On Fri, 21 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



That's a sad news.
But, I am afraid, you missed even a worth one:
"the Pentax and GR camera brands will undergo a dramatic restructuring that 
will see mass production end".

At least, that's the interpretation of PetaPixel.

Curious about what exactly they plan, I've read the translation of the 
original Ricoh announcement.

https://news-ricoh--imaging-co-jp.translate.goog/rim_info/2022/20220120_031454.html?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Just two interesting excerpts from there:
"PENTAX ... We will expand the range of various customization to further 
reflect the needs of our customers and provide workshop value. In addition, 
we will build a system that enables manufacturing together with customers 
from the product planning stage through communication through online fan 
meetings."


"We will shift from a sales method centered on the distribution network via 
retail stores to sales via the Internet to improve the efficiency of business 
operations. In addition to our own EC direct sales site, we will develop 
directly managed malls in major marketplaces to expand opportunities and 
places where Ricoh Imaging and customers can directly connect."



I am not sure what type of model they envision, but either it will be weird 
and rejected (like K-01), or it will lay down some new path that *might* have 
a chance to make Pentax great again. (no pun intended)


I hope these innovations will not affect availability and relative 
affordability of the great lenses Pentax still offers. Although, it is hard 
for me to imagine what they are going to do.


Cheers,
Igor


Larry Colen wrote on Fri, Jan 21, 2022 1:43 AM:

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/20/ricoh-to-stop-mass-producing-cameras-sell-direct-to-consumer-only/

As of April 1, 2022 (no fooling) Ricoh will stop selling Pentax and GR 
branded cameras through the distribution network and will only sell through 
their own website and branded stores.



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Re: Ricoh direct marketing cue wailing and moaning and gnashing of teeth

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's a sad news.
But, I am afraid, you missed even a worth one:
"the Pentax and GR camera brands will undergo a dramatic restructuring 
that will see mass production end".

At least, that's the interpretation of PetaPixel.

Curious about what exactly they plan, I've read the translation of the 
original Ricoh announcement.

https://news-ricoh--imaging-co-jp.translate.goog/rim_info/2022/20220120_031454.html?_x_tr_sl=ja&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

Just two interesting excerpts from there:
"PENTAX ... We will expand the range of various customization to further 
reflect the needs of our customers and provide workshop value. In 
addition, we will build a system that enables manufacturing together with 
customers from the product planning stage through communication through 
online fan meetings."


"We will shift from a sales method centered on the distribution network 
via retail stores to sales via the Internet to improve the efficiency of 
business operations. In addition to our own EC direct sales site, we will 
develop directly managed malls in major marketplaces to expand 
opportunities and places where Ricoh Imaging and customers can directly 
connect."



I am not sure what type of model they envision, but either it will be 
weird and rejected (like K-01), or it will lay down some new path that 
*might* have a chance to make Pentax great again. (no pun intended)


I hope these innovations will not affect availability and relative 
affordability of the great lenses Pentax still offers. Although, it is 
hard for me to imagine what they are going to do.


Cheers,
Igor


 Larry Colen wrote on Fri, Jan 21, 2022 1:43 AM:

https://petapixel.com/2022/01/20/ricoh-to-stop-mass-producing-cameras-sell-direct-to-consumer-only/

As of April 1, 2022 (no fooling) Ricoh will stop selling Pentax and GR 
branded cameras through the distribution network and will only sell 
through their own website and branded stores.

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Some messages do not make it to mail-archive online archive

[Igor PDML-StR]

I've just discovered that some messages do not appear on the mail-archive 
online archive ( https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/ )


Usually, I use this archive to read some messages while lurking (which is 
often sporadic). Previously, I've seen some occasional messages not 
appearing there. But now, I see that, e.g. none of Mark C's messages show 
there.
I don't know how long this has been going for, and if I had missed 
someone's message addressed to me because of that. So, if I did - my 
sincere apologies!



I am not sure if Doug can do anything about that, as I don't know what's 
the culprit.



Cheers,

Igor

PS. I've just read a few of of Mark's recent messages.
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Re: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Mark!

For this pano, I had a set of 13 shots, but I don't remember if I skipped 
some of them (in the middle) - for simplicity.

I was using an old Bogen/Manfrotto 3433 (aka 501) video tripod head (with
an old Manfrotto video tripod). It is very convenient for panning, but I 
the stepping (and overlap control) was done manually.


Igor



Mark C Sat, Jan 15, 2022 3:56 PM wrote:

Nice composition - how many combined exposures went into the pano?


On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the 
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never 
followed up on that.

So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.

All comments are welcome!

Igor


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton



Hi All,

Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I 
couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.


Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than 
some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 
= 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect  (or maybe it is an additional limitation 
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was 
less than 32765 px.

I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.


Grand Teton.

Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg

And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg


All comments are welcome!

Igor


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Re: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you Rob, Dan, Ann, Subash and everybody else for looking and 
commenting!

(and to Subash for helping Ann finding the link in my lengthy message.)

Rob, to answer your question:
I used PS for stitching.
It was based on 13 individual shots (unless I skipped some 
intermediate ones in the process - due to an excessive overlap).
I could save a tiff with 32765 on a side, but had to reduce the pixel 
count to about 16000 for the largest jpeg (not shown here).
Now, I wonder if something like 64000x8000px could have worked 
for the TIFF.


In any case, I have no need for those huge pixel numbers - as I am not 
printing that pano... The question was purely "academic".

Thinking of which, - it could be cool to have a photo wall paper. :-)
I just need a large enough wall and wallet to cover...
:-)))


Thanks for sharing the pointer to Gigapan.
And your image there is great!
As an aside, the navigation and search there are broken.
E.g. searching for your name doesn't bring your profile or this photo.
And, I cannot get to your panorama from your profile page.


Cheers,

Igor



 Rob Studdert Fri, 14 Jan 2022 18:59:20 -0800 wrote:

Nice work Igor, what software did you use to stitch the images? I know
that LR, though quite capable and by far the best option to assemble
RAW image files, does currently have a maximum pixel dimension
(vertically or horizontally) of around 65000px and a maximum overall
size of 500Mpx total therefore limiting the max image size to around
64000x8000px.


I did see that original post re-hosting panoramic images but forgot to
reply. It is difficult to display them in a meaningful way on-line,
the most practical option I found was the Gigapan site. It's a little
long in the tooth, clunky and seems to be fairly niche these days but
it does still work, I put four images up about 5 years back and they
still appear to be accessible.

http://gigapan.com/gigapans/898e98242e191f917be68fcbf6230da4

Cheers,


On Fri, 14 Jan 2022, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the 
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've never 
followed up on that.

So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.

All comments are welcome!

Igor


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton



Hi All,

Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I 
couldn't save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.


Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than 
some 65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 
= 65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect  (or maybe it is an additional limitation 
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was 
less than 32765 px.

I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 16,000.


Grand Teton.

Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg

And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg


All comments are welcome!

Igor


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YT video on Mark C.'s snowflakes book

[Igor PDML-StR]

I just came across this video that covers Mark's wonderful book that I am 
sure most if not all PDMLers remember:

https://youtu.be/withL4pVw3w
Mark becomes a living classic! :-)


(This is the book if someone has forgotten - with great reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00651973E/ )

Cheers,

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Re: "Second" Best of 2021

[Igor PDML-StR]

A very nice set!
I especially enjoy the photos of animals. The one with hippo stands out 
from the rest for me.


Igor


On Mon, Jan 10, 2022 at 1:39 PM Alan C wrote:


Following Larry's lead, I decided to do something similar - roughly one
a month. I only shot about 600 images for the whole year so, Larry,
you're not alone!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/wisselstroom/albums/72177720295865083

All with the K5 & mostly the HD 55-300, my favourite lens.

Alan C


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PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton

[Igor PDML-StR]

I've written this message almost 1.5 years ago, but never sent it...
I did this back in August of 2020, but than I was struggling with the 
presentation of the panoramic photos (here is the thread:
https://www.mail-archive.com/pdml@pdml.net/msg780894.html ), and I've 
never followed up on that.

So, I am just presenting it as is, as a huge Jpeg file.

All comments are welcome!

Igor


-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 10:39:57 -0400 (EDT)
To: PDML@pdml.net
Subject: PESO - PanESO - Grand Teton



Hi All,

Well, I've done it, - a panoramic photo that I don't know how to present.
This is the largest ever (pixel-wise) pano, as it was the first time I couldn't 
save it as JPEG because of the pixel size limit for JPEG.


Somewhere online, I've found references that JPEG couldn't be larger than some 
65,xxx pixels in any direction. (It is probably less than 2^16-1=65536-1 = 
65535, which is 2 bytes)
But that seems to be incorrect  (or maybe it is an additional limitation 
imposed by the software?). I couldn't save as JPEG even the image that was less 
than 32765 px.
I was able to save as Jpeg only when I took that number down to about 
16,000.



Grand Teton.

Warning: this is a 1MB file (600 px height):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-600px-c.jpg

And if someone is interested, here is 1000px-tall (2.3MB):
https://42graphy.org/misc/2020-08-parks/pano_IR04802-14-2-1000px-c.jpg


All comments are welcome!

Igor
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Re: OT; Brilliant photograpyy

[Igor PDML-StR]

A great set! My wife and I enjoyed it a lot.
Thank you for sharing it!

Igor,
popping in just to say "hi!" to everybody for the 1st time in 2022!
"Happy (still relatively) New Year!"



jcoyle Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:52:30 -0800 wrote:

Worth a look!

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?vanity=tkliwinihilisci=a.4859932557378431
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Curious DemSelfies :-)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Well, not quite that spelling, but I couldn't resist. :-)
https://seuppcdn01.1x.com/images/user/5dcd47081982253f66cc064214a9c63c-hd4.jpg

And the photographer, Abdul Gapur Dayak, - has a rather interesting 
collection:

https://1x.com/photo/2070376

I am not sure if these photos are photoshopped (to the extent of combining 
two different photos in one) - it is a bit hard to believe you can 
actually have these creatures "posing" like that - right around the leaf 
edge, but ... maybe?


What do you think?

Igor
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Re: OT: I have a new computer

[Igor PDML-StR]

John,

You may have done this already, but just in case:
On every new Windows computer (installed or preinstalled), the first thing 
I do is going through a bunch of privacy configurations, disabling all 
types of information sharing.


There are a bunch of sites that have lists of those and how to find them.
I usually use 1-3 of them, as they differ in the content and clarity.
E.g.
https://www.techadvisory.org/2021/08/windows-10-privacy-settings-you-should-adjust-right-now/
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/windows-10-violates-your-privacy-by-default-heres-how-you-can-protect-yourself/
https://pixelprivacy.com/resources/windows-privacy-settings/

Good luck!

Igor



 John Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:50:42 -0700 wrote:

This the second computer I've bought pre-built (the first was in the late 
1980s) - not counting several laptops I've owned over the years.


...
It's Windoze10
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cameraphobia and terrorism?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Some of you might have heard about this incident - it's been on the 
national news.
But just in case you didn't hear what was the culprit, - that was a 
"vintage" style camera and human stupidity.


I am quoting this article from PetaPixel:

"The incident reportedly occurred after a woman spotted a fellow passenger 
scrolling through videos and photos of vintage cameras. She mistook the 
images of vintage cameras for bombs and believed that the passenger was 
looking up bomb-making instructions.


The woman’s fears peaked after the man pulled out his own vintage camera 
and began fiddling with its settings — she believed that he was setting a 
timer on a bomb’s detonator. She then notified a flight attendant and the 
pilots decided to land in Queens.


https://petapixel.com/2021/10/11/mans-vintage-camera-mistaken-for-bomb-causes-emergency-landing/

After they landed, the guy with the camera was seen face down on the 
tarmac.


A bunch of news outlets wrote later:
"Authorities determined there was no criminality at play in an incident 
Saturday when a passenger was detained after reports of suspicious 
behavior, prompting the flight arriving at New York City's LaGuardia 
Airport to be deplaned on the tarmac."


I guess they decided that stupidity that caused the scare is not criminal.

The news snippet I saw on TV claimed that the guy had a camera that was 
similar to a Mamia TLR.


It is interesting, that someone suggested in the comments that DHS 
(Homeland Security) had initiated a fear of cameras a few years ago:

https://www.cjr.org/united_states_project/homeland-security-photography-warning.php

Cheers!

Igor
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Re: converting PEF to DNG .. help needed

[Igor PDML-StR]

I am helping Ann with the file download via direct e-mail.

But in the mean time, - in case someone needs it as well, - I've mixed up 
the link and posted one for Camera Raw, not DNG converter, sorry.

Here is the correct link:

ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/dng/win/DNGConverter_12_4.exe

Igor


On Sun, 3 Oct 2021, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Ann,

According to a posting I've read on Adobe support forum, ver. 12.4 of DNG 
converter is the last one that runs on Windows 7.


Adobe doesn't keep it on their download website, but it is
still available from their ftp site:
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/photoshop/cameraraw/win/12.x/CameraRaw_12_4.exe

What I've just discovered is that those Firefox and Chrome-like browsers that 
I have on my Win-10 box for some reason couldn't download this file, but 
Internet Explorer can.


Try, and if you cannot download it, - e-mail me, and I will download it and 
make it available for you on a website.


Cheers,

Igor



ann sanfedele Sun, 03 Oct 2021 14:33:38 -0700

Thanks for trying to help, Igor...

ALAS I have windows 7 PRO - the 64 bit WIndows 7 - so the last option doesn't 
work... (says so specifically on line)



The Adobe doesn't work either... as I don't have WIndoze 10..

oh well, it's not really critical - faststone does work.

On Sun, 3 Oct 2021, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Popping in quickly...
(Sorry, I seldom get to read PDML lately.)


I've always used Adobe DNG converter which works well (or at least used 
to).

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/adobe-dng-converter.html

One thing that you'd need to choose there is the target version of DNG.
I would first convert just one file and check it by opening in all the 
software tools that you are planning to use, to make sure it is adequate.



Yet another option that could be viable for you is to install a codec for 
viewing RAW files on Windows (I believe it should allow showing thumbnails 
in Windows Explorer as well as in Windows' own image viewer, "photos".)
If you have Windows 10, - you can get a free Microsoft's package "Raw Image 
extension":

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/raw-image-extension/9nctdw2w1bh8?==pivot:overviewtab
Presumably, it should read all Pentax DSLR's raw files, as it is using this 
library:

https://www.libraw.org/supported-cameras


If you need that same functionality on a Win-7 computer, Ricoh/Pentax has a 
raw codec for Win-7:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/rawcodec_win.html

I hope this helps.

Igor



ann sanfedele Sun, 03 Oct 2021 07:36:05 -0700:

I have a couple of hundred PEF's that are all in one folder on my 
harddrive.. would like to copy all of them to DNG's so I can view the 
thumbnails in windows explorer on my computer.. I can see them in 
Freestone.. but it is cumbersome for me with my work flow..



Can I do this in bulk?  Got a link to a free down load for me that will 
work?



thanks guys,
ann




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Re: Photo Hosting Site - Flickr or.....?

[Igor PDML-StR]

My wife has a flickr account. For several years, she's been paying an 
annual fee, but a year or two ago, they raised the prices beyond 
reasonable, so, she didn't renew it. The account is still available, but 
there are very low limits on how much you can upload or show, or see.. I 
don't remember the latest details.


If you have Amazon Prime, - you can use their photo storage for free, - 
and display photos (you can organize them in albums) on the web, - 
somewhat similar to flickr, but maybe with fewer organizational controls - 
I didn't get into the details myself.


Yet another "free" alternative - is to use Google photos - you can store 
up to 15 GB worth of files per the entire Google account (including Gmail, 
G-drive, G-docs, etc.)


There are a few other websites that have free options - I don't know what 
are the limits: Wix, 500px, SmugMug

A few more are listed here:
https://www.guru99.com/free-photo-hosting.html


Hope that helps,
Igor


Steve Cottrell Sun, 03 Oct 2021 15:15:52 -0700 wrote:

Thanks mate!

Cot



On 3 Oct 2021, at 20:41, Larry Colen  wrote:

It used to be that you could get a free flickr account that would be fine 
for

what you’re trying to do.

There are a range of issues with flickr, but if they still have the free
accounts, none of them should matter in this instance.
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Re: converting PEF to DNG .. help needed

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ann,

According to a posting I've read on Adobe support forum, ver. 12.4 of DNG 
converter is the last one that runs on Windows 7.


Adobe doesn't keep it on their download website, but it is
still available from their ftp site:
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/photoshop/cameraraw/win/12.x/CameraRaw_12_4.exe

What I've just discovered is that those Firefox and Chrome-like browsers 
that I have on my Win-10 box for some reason couldn't download this file, 
but Internet Explorer can.


Try, and if you cannot download it, - e-mail me, and I will download 
it and make it available for you on a website.


Cheers,

Igor



ann sanfedele Sun, 03 Oct 2021 14:33:38 -0700

Thanks for trying to help, Igor...

ALAS I have windows 7 PRO - the 64 bit WIndows 7 - so the last option 
doesn't work... (says so specifically on line)



The Adobe doesn't work either... as I don't have WIndoze 10..

oh well, it's not really critical - faststone does work.

On Sun, 3 Oct 2021, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Popping in quickly...
(Sorry, I seldom get to read PDML lately.)


I've always used Adobe DNG converter which works well (or at least used to).
https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/adobe-dng-converter.html

One thing that you'd need to choose there is the target version of DNG.
I would first convert just one file and check it by opening in all the 
software tools that you are planning to use, to make sure it is adequate.



Yet another option that could be viable for you is to install a codec for 
viewing RAW files on Windows (I believe it should allow showing thumbnails in 
Windows Explorer as well as in Windows' own image viewer, "photos".)
If you have Windows 10, - you can get a free Microsoft's package "Raw Image 
extension":

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/raw-image-extension/9nctdw2w1bh8?==pivot:overviewtab
Presumably, it should read all Pentax DSLR's raw files, as it is using this 
library:

https://www.libraw.org/supported-cameras


If you need that same functionality on a Win-7 computer, Ricoh/Pentax has a 
raw codec for Win-7:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/rawcodec_win.html

I hope this helps.

Igor



ann sanfedele Sun, 03 Oct 2021 07:36:05 -0700:

I have a couple of hundred PEF's that are all in one folder on my harddrive.. 
would like to copy all of them to DNG's so I can view the thumbnails in 
windows explorer on my computer.. I can see them in Freestone.. but it is 
cumbersome for me with my work flow..



Can I do this in bulk?  Got a link to a free down load for me that will work?


thanks guys,
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Popping in quickly...
(Sorry, I seldom get to read PDML lately.)


I've always used Adobe DNG converter which works well (or at least used 
to).

https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/adobe-dng-converter.html

One thing that you'd need to choose there is the target version of DNG.
I would first convert just one file and check it by opening in all the 
software tools that you are planning to use, to make sure it is adequate.



Yet another option that could be viable for you is to install a codec for 
viewing RAW files on Windows (I believe it should allow showing thumbnails 
in Windows Explorer as well as in Windows' own image viewer, "photos".)
If you have Windows 10, - you can get a free Microsoft's package "Raw 
Image extension":

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/raw-image-extension/9nctdw2w1bh8?==pivot:overviewtab
Presumably, it should read all Pentax DSLR's raw files, as it is using 
this library:

https://www.libraw.org/supported-cameras


If you need that same functionality on a Win-7 computer, Ricoh/Pentax has 
a raw codec for Win-7:

http://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/support/digital/rawcodec_win.html

I hope this helps.

Igor



ann sanfedele Sun, 03 Oct 2021 07:36:05 -0700:

I have a couple of hundred PEF's that are all in one folder on my 
harddrive.. would like to copy all of them to DNG's so I can view the 
thumbnails in windows explorer on my computer.. I can see them in 
Freestone.. but it is cumbersome for me with my work flow..



Can I do this in bulk?  Got a link to a free down load for me that will 
work?



thanks guys,
ann
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Re: March PUG Countdown

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Exactly my thought. :-)


Larry Colen Sat, 20 Feb 2021 14:49:49 -0800 wrote:



On Feb 20, 2021, at 1:19 PM, Brian W wrote:

G'day all

Only one submission so far.

Theme: "Marine”.



I wonder if Dan will post a photo of, or from, an F4.
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New look of Pentaxphotogallery

[Igor PDML-StR]

I don't know if it has been discussed on the list...
I've just noticed that PPG has a new look. My first impression: a much 
lighter (in a good sense) and user-friendly design.


Cheers,

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Re: Filtering

[Igor PDML-StR]

I am guessing that Doug has figured out the change and reverted it
(on Feb 9, shortly after sending the message quoted below), but just in 
case:


The update has changed at least one small detail. For a few days,
from (approximately) Sun Feb  7 09:57 2021 until Tue Feb  9 16:21 
2021, the internal "From" (aka "envelope-from") information changed 
from

pdml-boun...@pdml.net
to
pdml-bounces+USER=domain@pdml.net
(where u...@domain.com would be the subscriber's address)
After Feb. 9 it reverted to the old behavior.

My message filtering was also thrown off by this change.

HTH,
Igor



Doug Brewer Tue, 09 Feb 2021 12:57:38 -0800 wrote:

Yes, we moved to the latest version of the list software over the weekend, 
which is why it was down for a bit.



I don't know why it would affect your client's filters. I use Thunderbird 
myself and have not seen this issue. Everything still goes where it's 
supposed to go.



Have you made recent adjustments to your filters?



On 2/9/21 2:29 PM, John wrote:

My list filter stopped working. Thunderbird no longer moves the PDML 
messages to the PDML folder.



Did something change with the list software?


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Re: Panodrama

[Igor PDML-StR]

Right on the money, John!
So, now the question is which OG do you dial in a dialOG[ue]...


As I've learned recently, "OG" is actually quite spread in the modern 
slang with the meaning "old school", "classic". E.g. "OG DSLR 
shooter/photographer".




Cheers,

Igor


 John Wed, 03 Feb 2021 13:34:34 -0800 wrote:

"OG" means "Original Gangster" - it comes out of Rap & Hiphop music.

On Fri, 29 Jan 2021, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Similar questions apply to
SSD (solid state drive)
"thumb drive"/"flash drive"
...

"dial" [a phone]
"Dial" [a soap]  ;-)

... and what/who is that mysterious "og" that you dial...
[in a dialog]


Cheers,

Igor


John Francis Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:57:00 -0800 wrote:

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 07:21:56PM +, Bob Pdml wrote:


My camera (Fuji X100) somehow put itself into panorama mode, so I had no
choice - I couldn???t figure out how to put it back to normal.



IIRC those cameras can do automatic multi-exposure stitching to create 
panoramas; the settings for that are under the "DRIVE" menus (though why it's 
still called that when there's no drive motor for actual film movement is a 
good question ...)




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Re: PESO -- Circular Waterfall 2021 Fish Eye

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P.J., this is an interesting image that caught my eye when you posted the 
first version, and now, I am looking at both.

I am not quite sure which of the two I like better.
The newer, "circular" version has more of the "caricature" feel to it.
It feels as if it us the (mini-) globe, and the water is flowing off from 
the top - to both sides (and not just to the big "crater".

I like that type of effect. - That's fun!
(I've experimented with a similar view of a flower meadow.)

The first, semi-circular, version draws more attention to the giant 
sinkhole/crater, in which the water rushes from otherwise (seemingly) 
mostly calm and flat surface.
(And it doesn't even feel that much of a fish-eye, until you start 
analyzing the image.)

This seems to be an overall more powerful image.

Cheers,

Igor



P. J. Alling Sat, 30 Jan 2021 14:50:42 -0800 wrote:

So I got around to re-rendering the new Circular Waterfall image using 
actual fisheye functionality.  Here it is:



http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--CircularWaterfall2021fe.html


for those who want to compare without going back to my original post:

http://webster26.epizy.com/peso/PESO--CircularWaterfall2021.html

Equipment: Pentax K-3 w/PENTAX DA 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 ED (IF) Fish-Eye Zoom

As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.

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Re: Panodrama

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Similar questions apply to
SSD (solid state drive)
"thumb drive"/"flash drive"
...

"dial" [a phone]
"Dial" [a soap]  ;-)

... and what/who is that mysterious "og" that you dial...
[in a dialog]


Cheers,

Igor


John Francis Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:57:00 -0800 wrote:

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 07:21:56PM +, Bob Pdml wrote:


My camera (Fuji X100) somehow put itself into panorama mode, so I had no
choice - I couldn???t figure out how to put it back to normal.



IIRC those cameras can do automatic multi-exposure stitching to create 
panoramas; the settings for that are under the "DRIVE" menus (though why 
it's still called that when there's no drive motor for actual film 
movement is a good question ...)


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Re: For fucks sake

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I feel satisfied (now)!
:-


Igor

PS. Incompetence and stupidity always frustrate me.




 ann sanfedele Thu, 28 Jan 2021 14:40:41 -0800 wrote:

but how do you really feel ?? :-)

ann

On Thu, 28 Jan 2021, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




This is a #@%^&*+ dumb article! :-)
(And full of bovine scatology.)


On a serious note, this is a questionable quality article relying on 
questionable (IMHO - incorrect!) research results (conclusions).


I have discussed this article yesterday and today with a friend who actually 
works in medical research. We guessed that most likely the journalist was 
given an assignment to write something by the deadline (possibly on the 
subject), so she googled something and came up with some superficial 
conclusions, without much of critical thinking, and got paid for that 
mumbo-jumbo.


Besides having some wrong conclusions, what also adds to that impression is 
that the journalist does not seem to demonstrate understanding of how 
scientific research (publications) works: One of the referenced papers is a 
manuscript at the stage when it was submitted for publication. I actually 
have doubts if the journalist has actually verified whether it was published 
in a peer-reviewed journal. (I checked, it was.) [*]



Now, about the underlying research:
At least the first research article quoted by the journalist is flawed.
(I am reluctant to analyze in detail all of them.) [**]

The biggest problem about it is non-representative choice of the study 
participants. They had three studies, but all of them used college students 
taking psychology courses:
"A total of 43 participants (30 women) were recruited from introductory 
psychology courses at a small liberal arts college <...> Their ages ranged 
from 18 to 22 years ..."
"A total of 49 participants (34 women) were recruited from introductory 
psychology courses at a small liberal arts college <...>. Their ages ranged 
from 18 to 22 years ..."
"Participants were 126 college students aged 18–38 years (86 women <...>) 
enrolled in an introductory psychology course at a small liberal arts 
college."


That is a very narrow category of the study participants, with a higher than 
average educational/cultural/social/... level.
I am sure if they took people from other socio-demographic groups, especially 
from the lower social levels, they would've seen quite different results.



To summarize, the study reported is not necessarily representative for the 
entire society. And the authors fail to acknowledge that fact.

(If I were the referee, I would've pointed this out, and would not have
recommended this article for publication unless a clear explicit statement 
about that serious limitation is made. - I've done similar recommendations on 
multiple occasions - in my field.)



This is a good example of how a [wrong] message from unscrupulous scientists 
can be amplified by low-quality journalists. This type of situations 
undermine the role of science in our society (leading to a wide-spread 
skepticism toward the science in the society).


My apology for being a party pooper... :-)


=
[*]
Let me clarify this point for those who might not be familiar with how 
scientific publications work. The author(s) submits a manuscript to the 
editor for publication. The editor takes a look - to determine who would be 
good reviewers, and sends it to those for review.  Based on the reviewers' 
comments and recommendations, the editor makes a decision: to publish, to 
reject, or to give an opportunity to make improvements, in which case, the 
article can go through an additional, similar, round of review.
I've refereed many manuscripts. A significant portion of those were not 
suitable for publication without significant revision. Some of the 
manuscripts should have never been published (and usually they weren't).


So, the bottom line is that a peer review is an important tool to weed out 
improper articles. So if an article hasn't passed it, - its results and 
conclusions might not be reliable.

However, it is important to recognize that the peer-review is not a
guarantee. Moreover, there are peer-reviewed publications that are wrong. 
Some of those should not have passed through the peer-review, others were 
found to be wrong by the subsequent studies stimulated by them. The latter is 
a normal scientific discovery process.)


[**] I am not claiming all conclusions are wrong, - but even some of them 
being wrong make the entire article wrong.



Cheers,

Igor



ann sanfedele Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:41:36 -0800 wrote:

great article - works for me regularly

ann


On 1/27/2021 10:03 AM, Bill wrote:


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness/index.html


   It definitely makes me feel better

   bill





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Re: For fucks sake

[Igor PDML-StR]

This is a #@%^&*+ dumb article! :-)
(And full of bovine scatology.)


On a serious note, this is a questionable quality article relying on 
questionable (IMHO - incorrect!) research results (conclusions).


I have discussed this article yesterday and today with a friend who 
actually works in medical research. We guessed that most likely the 
journalist was given an assignment to write something by the deadline 
(possibly on the subject), so she googled something and came up with some 
superficial conclusions, without much of critical thinking, and got paid 
for that mumbo-jumbo.


Besides having some wrong conclusions, what also adds to that impression 
is that the journalist does not seem to demonstrate understanding of how 
scientific research (publications) works: One of the referenced papers is a 
manuscript at the stage when it was submitted for publication. I actually 
have doubts if the journalist has actually verified whether it was 
published in a peer-reviewed journal. (I checked, it was.) [*]



Now, about the underlying research:
At least the first research article quoted by the journalist is flawed.
(I am reluctant to analyze in detail all of them.) [**]

The biggest problem about it is non-representative choice of the study 
participants. They had three studies, but all of them used college 
students taking psychology courses:
"A total of 43 participants (30 women) were recruited from introductory 
psychology courses at a small liberal arts college <...> Their ages ranged 
from 18 to 22 years ..."
"A total of 49 participants (34 women) were recruited from introductory 
psychology courses at a small liberal arts college <...>. Their ages 
ranged from 18 to 22 years ..."
"Participants were 126 college students aged 18–38 years (86 women <...>) 
enrolled in an introductory psychology course at a small liberal arts college."


That is a very narrow category of the study participants, with a higher 
than average educational/cultural/social/... level.
I am sure if they took people from other socio-demographic groups, 
especially from the lower social levels, they would've seen quite 
different results.



To summarize, the study reported is not necessarily representative for the 
entire society. And the authors fail to acknowledge that fact.

(If I were the referee, I would've pointed this out, and would not have
recommended this article for publication unless a clear explicit statement 
about that serious limitation is made. - I've done similar recommendations 
on multiple occasions - in my field.)



This is a good example of how a [wrong] message from unscrupulous 
scientists can be amplified by low-quality journalists. This type of 
situations undermine the role of science in our society (leading to a 
wide-spread skepticism toward the science in the society).


My apology for being a party pooper... :-)


=
[*]
Let me clarify this point for those who might not be familiar with 
how scientific publications work. The author(s) submits a manuscript to 
the editor for publication. The editor takes a look - to determine who 
would be good reviewers, and sends it to those for review.  Based on 
the reviewers' comments and recommendations, the editor makes a decision: 
to publish, to reject, or to give an opportunity to make improvements, in 
which case, the article can go through an additional, similar, round of 
review.
I've refereed many manuscripts. A significant portion of those were not 
suitable for publication without significant revision. Some of the 
manuscripts should have never been published (and usually they weren't).


So, the bottom line is that a peer review is an important tool to weed out 
improper articles. So if an article hasn't passed it, - its results and 
conclusions might not be reliable.

However, it is important to recognize that the peer-review is not a
guarantee. Moreover, there are peer-reviewed publications that are 
wrong. Some of those should not have passed through the peer-review, 
others were found to be wrong by the subsequent studies stimulated by 
them. The latter is a normal scientific discovery process.)


[**] I am not claiming all conclusions are wrong, - but even some of them 
being wrong make the entire article wrong.



Cheers,

Igor



ann sanfedele Wed, 27 Jan 2021 15:41:36 -0800 wrote:

great article - works for me regularly

ann


On 1/27/2021 10:03 AM, Bill wrote:


https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/health/swearing-benefits-wellness/index.html


It definitely makes me feel better

bill



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Re: PESO: spiny orb-weaver (photo of a spider in the link)

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Subash, that's a very nice picture of a fun-looking creature!


Larry, it indeed seems to be a bit more colorful than those that I see 
photographed here, but yet, they can be quite unusual here as well.

Here is what photographed back in 2015:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2015-06-10-spider/
(Still, Adit's photo has a much better clarity, and more color.)

(I've posted mine to PDML back then:
http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2015-June/398698.html )

Cheers,

Igor


Larry Colen Tue, 26 Jan 2021 22:52:27 -0800 wrote:

Nice job.  And much prettier than the orb spiders around here.


On Jan 26, 2021, at 10:31 PM, Subash Jeyan wrote:

not something feathered! a spider called by spiny orb-weaver which is
less than 1 cm across. shot by Adit during our recent trip to
masinagudi. i think he used pentax kp, tamron 90/2.8 macro and the
raynox dcr-250.


http://something-feathered.in/2021/01/27/spiny-orb-weaver/

comments always appreciated, subash


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Re: PESO: Bracket Fungus

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Alan, that's a nice photo!

Reading the message subject, I started wondering: "Wow! Even his camera 
bracket has developed fungus!" (Cf. "Lens fungus")

:-)

Cheers,

Igor



Alan C Mon, 25 Jan 2021 04:39:06 -0800 wrote:

A large Bracket Fungus, possibly Ganoderma Applantum, on a dead tree. With 
our mostly dry climate we don't often see this sort of thing but then it 
has been unusually wet the past few weeks.



Bracket Fungus, possibly Ganoderma Applanatum | Flickr 




K5 & DA 18-55 WR

Alan C

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OT - wonderful camera work ON ICE

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Hi All!

I hope everybody is staying safe - in all parts of the world.


I came across this wonderful camera work (video):
https://youtu.be/qqIH9ez7d9A
(The skaters-dancers are also very skillful and fun to watch.)


I was curious how that video was shot (obviously, from the ice), so I 
went to the author's website.
The camera man, Jordan Cowan, is a very experienced skater himself. In 
addition to allowing him following the skater very close, it also gives 
him a huge advantage of knowing the typical element sequences, which 
allows him to expect/predict what's coming, and choose the best view 
point.
(That is also related to our conversation(s) with Larry on shooting 
dancers (by photographers who know the dance specifics).)


And his rig is quite impressive:
https://www.oniceperspectives.com/about

You can see more of his work on his YT channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj0Vi2KOhULmQ0YrcL17GKw

Cheers,

Igor

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Re: GESO: 21st Century reaches Phalaborwa!

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Alan, I can assure you that you are farther ahead in the 21st century than 
we are!
We still don't have fiber-optics internet in our twin city with the 
population of about 200K.
(Our "best" provider, Suddenlink, a few years ago purchased and 
drastically ran down by Altice, a French company, - offers up to 1 Gbps/50 
Mbps [down/up].)


A friend of mine who lives in Queens, NY, said it is not available in 
their 'hood.


Overall, with respect to ISPs, US is far behind Europe, both in coverage 
and prices. (Of course, the vast size of the country [with many rural 
areas] is a factor, but the absence of a healthy competition is by far 
more crucial.)
We are paying in the vicinity of $100 per month for 100/10 Mbps 
(down/up), with the monthly traffic "allowance" of 250 GB.


Oh, yes, and it is a fine documentary photo.


Cheers,

Igor




Alan C Thu, 14 Jan 2021 04:17:05 -0800 wrote:

 Fibre cable laying has begun in earnest in Phalaborwa! Scroll L for the 
others.



Another company started with overhead lines but have been stopped after 
intervention bt the ratepayers association - no slums allowed here.



Ditch Witch cutting a fibre cable trench | Alan Cole | Flickr 




K5 & DA 18-55 WR on a sunny, bright, hot day.  Tough for the workers.

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Modern variety of a rental photo studio

[Igor PDML-StR]

They call it "Selfie museum":
https://www.kbtx.com/2021/01/05/fight-the-winter-blues-with-a-colorful-photo-shoot-at-instaland-bcs/

Igor

Sent from mobile phone




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Re: I got my head this morning

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With PHQ3, you'll be punning 5-ways. ;-)


Larry Colen Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:49:49 -0800 wrote:

My new Induro PHQ3 head arrived this morning.  I’m very impressed.  It 
feels very solid, but the movement is smooth.



One feature that wasn’t mentioned in the literature are the release 
couplers on the tightening arms so that rather than sticking out, the arms 
can lay flat when storing it.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/u5F3PCg8HPKwttXd8

The reason it was an open box unit might have simply been that a couple of 
the bubble levels didn’t have fluid, I just registered it and sent a note 
to Induro about getting replacement parts.  They were very helpful when I 
needed some replacement parts for my BHD3.


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Re: OT - happy dancing stormtroopers - with the link

[Igor PDML-StR]

https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw

Igor

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On December 30, 2020 10:01:38 Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

Your taxpayers' money at work:
Beautiful robotic dance (and a great PR for BD).

PS. Your choice of PUNctuation in the subject.

Igor

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OT - happy dancing stormtroopers

[Igor PDML-StR]

Your taxpayers' money at work:
Beautiful robotic dance (and a great PR for BD).

PS. Your choice of PUNctuation in the subject.

Igor

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Snowflake photos

[Igor PDML-StR]

I thought this would be interesting to PDMLers, and especially Mark C.:

https://mymodernmet.com/nathan-myhrvold-snowflake-images/


Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

Igor



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Re: A little better luck tonight

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Yesterday, when we finally set our lights outside of the house, - I saw a 
neighbor setting his telescope - 2 houses down from us. Remembering your 
heads-up about the celestial event [*], and having seen the two planets 
close 
to each other last night with the naked eye, - I suggested my daughter to 
walk over and chat.
He confirmed setting it up for the big planets, and offered to look at 
them. He's got a serious telescope with the tracer, etc. I saw Jupiter 
with 4 moons and the Saturn with the rings (for the first time in my 
life). My daughter could see the same sans the 4th moon - she couldn't 
adjust the focus for her eyes.
While the telescope was being set up, - she also got to see moon craters 
(for the first time in her life).


I was very impressed.

Something good came out of us being late with the decorations. :-)

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[*] Many thanks for that heads-up!


Cheers,
Igor



On Mon, 21 Dec 2020, 10:06 Larry Colen wrote:



I had a little better luck with the planets tonight, this is my best, you
can actually see Saturn’s rings without squinting too hard



https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/50743174936/in/album-72157717440959336/


Pentax K-1 with adaptall 300/2.8 + 2x teleconverter ISO 400 1/100 second

full album here
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157717440959336

After the conjunction was too deep in the haze, I decided to see whether
the Tamron worked better with or without the 2x using my lunar test
subject.  When cropped to about the same size the shots with the 2x did
seem a bit sharper

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157717452588397



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Re: OT Sir Ansel print trades for a pretty penny

[Igor PDML-StR]

Well, some 1000 years from now, they will dig out your metal prints from 
the bottom of Santa Cruz Strait (between the island of California and 
continental Texas), and one of them will be sold for $1M - to a kid 
curious in ancient history who would forgo his e-Donald's sandwich and use 
that day's lunch money on this curiosity.

:-)



Larry Colen Sun, 20 Dec 2020 10:57:21 -0800 wrote:


On Dec 20, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Bruce Walker  

wrote:


tl;dr "The Grand Tetons and the Snake River, Grand Teton National
Park, Wyoming" (1942) sold for $988,000 at Sotheby's New York
yesterday.



https://www.artsy.net/news/artsy-editorial-ansel-adams-photograph-achieved-new-auction-record-artist-sothebys


So don't lose that dream, and keep on shooting. Maybe the new Pentax
body coming or a lens on eBay will finally do the trick for you. ;-)


Somehow I doubt that any camera will be enough so that one of my photos 
sells for a million bucks 35 years after I die.  I can barely sell them 
45 years after I started photographing.


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Re: History rhymes, happy Dan Day

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dilly Ding, Dilly Dan!
Dan-de-Lion Wishes on Happy Dan Day!
:-)

Igor

Larry Colen Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:35:36 -0800 wrote:

They say that history doesn’t repeat itself, but it rhymes.
We just had Ann Day


The face monster tells me that it’s Dan Day. I hope you have the best 
possible

day you can in the middle of a global apocalypse.

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Re: GESO PPY afterburn

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry,

I second what Paul wrote. I also think that 3329 is the best of the bunch.

Cheers,
Igor

PS. It took almost a full day from the moment I started writing this 
message, until I am pressing on "send". Gee!



Paul Sorenson Mon, 14 Dec 2020 10:21:44 -0800 wrote:

Larry -

3329 makes it to the top of my hit parade.  Your model seems relaxed and 
enjoying herself .  I've noticed this before - you do a good job allowing 
your models to have fun and be themselves - something many photographers 
have difficulty doing.



-p

On 12/14/2020 9:02 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

About a week ago a friend contacted me about doing a photo shoot.  We 
figured
out that doing it outside, keeping distance etc. we could do it fairly 
safely.


Saturday afternoon we went to one of the places where I had 
photographed the
aftereffects of the wildfires and spent a couple of hours.  I’m rather 
pleased
with the results. It’s a gallery of 12, I haven’t really picked one 
standout

shot yet, so I’ll just link to the album:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157717315919921

Comments, as always, are appreciated.

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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Igor PDML-StR]

Many moons ago, in 1999, my wife and I ventured into Wine Cellar Tasting 
Room at Rio hotel in Las Vegas.
They were offering a tasting of old _white_ wines. By "old", I mean from 
1970-s. They had a flight of 4 or 5 wines from the same winery from 
different years, - over 5-6 years span.


The main take-home point:
Certain white wines can stay and age for long time (contrary to the 
popular belief).
And you can tell the difference between the years - at that age (20+ 
years).



The funny moment was that when we tried one of those wines, we looked at 
each other and agreed that it was not right: it went bed, although not to 
the complete vinegar point yet. It was a popular place, and many people 
went through that tasting before us that day. So, politely and carefully, 
we told the host that the particular wine has probably gone over the hill. 
He tasted it himself, agreed, and then wondered why nobody before us has 
pointed that out.
 He apologized, went into the back, and then told us that he didn't have 
any bottles from that vintage year left, so, he brought even an older one, 
- older than the entire flight, - that was usually not offered for 
tasting. It was truly remarkable, the best of the bunch.


That was a great experience, and an educational one as well:
After that we've never been afraid to tell the wine-tasting hosts when we 
had suspicions about some particular wine (when we felt something was 
wrong).


Cheers,

Igor


John Francis Sat, 05 Dec 2020 13:11:55 -0800 wrote:

On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:24:27PM -0500, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



Larry, while I love California and over the years we've enjoyed most of 

its

wine regions, this particular wine appears to be available in TX stores:
https://specsonline.com/shop/wine/beringer-sonoma-pinot-noir/
(This is a TX analogue of BevMo)



I love living in California!

Admittedly growing up in the UK wasn't bad - French wines were available
in the stores at reasonable prices.  I acquired a taste for Burgundies
(and especially Nuits St. Georges - my best experience was spotting a
bottle of the 1969 vintage mixed in with (and priced as) a shelf full
of the 1970s at an off-licence (US: liquor store) when I stopped off
on my way to a party to pick up something.

When I moved out to California I soon found the Sonoma Pinots (and, in
particular, those from the Carneros sub-region) were more to my taste
than those from Napa.  But perhaps a decade ago I came across the Santa
Lucia Highlands wineries, and in particular Morgan Winery.

Mind you, it's hard to go wrong anywhere on the California or Oregon
coast if you're looking for Pinots.

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Re: OT steak and potatoes

[Igor PDML-StR]

Larry, while I love California and over the years we've enjoyed most of 
its wine regions, this particular wine appears to be available in TX stores:

https://specsonline.com/shop/wine/beringer-sonoma-pinot-noir/
(This is a TX analogue of BevMo)

Cheers to "Global Economy"! ;-)

... And bon appétit!

Igor


lrc Thu, 03 Dec 2020 09:33:09 -0800 wrote:


On December 3, 2020 8:02:42 AM PST, "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote:

The potatoes sound interesting, but I love the way the steak is done.



Tri tip, a central California staple that everyone else calls bottom 
sirloin.
I was very happy with the way it turned out, especially since I've very 
rarely,

until recently cooked things like steaks and roasts.


I
also like the "fruit" in the background.


Another advantage of living in this part of the world.


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Re: OT: Viewbug

[Igor PDML-StR]

HAR!

That reminded me of “I don’t want to belong to any club that will accept 
me as a member”.


Fun fact: That quote is attributed to Groucho Marx (circa 1949), but 
apparently it was printed much earlier: in "The Chicago Daily 
Tribune" in 1891 (and then other newspapers):
“...  I don’t want to have anything to do with a company that would take 
a risk on me.”

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/04/18/groucho-resigns/


Cheers,

Igor




Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:17:53 -0800 wrote:

MARK!

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Dec 1, 2020 at 2:13 PM Bruce Walker  
wrote:



It's unlikely that a popular
photography site, having seen my photos, would still want to feature
them.



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Has anybody tried connecting Pentax K-1 for live streaming via HDMI?

[Igor PDML-StR]

I wonder if anybody has tried a Cam Link from Elgato with a Pentax DSLR,
in particular, K-1, - or any other solution that allows to live-stream 
HDMI output from the camera?


I see that there were some problems 3 years ago, - but I wonder if those 
have been fixed in the later firmware

https://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/75-video-pentax-hdslrs/340995-k-1-external-recording.html

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Re: GESO: December PUG Rejects

[Igor PDML-StR]

Rejections rejected his rejection! ;-)

It is like here: http://ftp.komkon.org/pub/Humor/RejectRejectionLetter.txt


ann sanfedele Wed, 25 Nov 2020 07:59:31 -0800 wrote:

apparently  you decided not to show us the rejects too :-)
ann


On 11/25/2020 10:19 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

These are the images I looked at for the December 2020 PUG, but 
decided

against.

Comments, criticisms and suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

Dan Matyola
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Re: OT: Also sprach Zarathustra

[Igor PDML-StR]

... for diamond teeth.


Steve Cottrell Tue, 24 Nov 2020 08:35:44 -0800 wrote:

On 24/11/20, Bob Pdml, discombobulated, unleashed:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/23/helicopter-pilot-finds-strange-monolith-in-remote-part-of-utah


Brilliant! Extra-terrestrial Toblerone :-D

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Re: OT - Printer ink fails to dry completely for a long time.

[Igor PDML-StR]

I vaguely remember that instructions for some inkjet photo printer or photo 
papers suggested to let the prints dry for 24 hours.


With R2880, I am also spoiled, and not waiting for long, if at all.


Igor

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Bulent Celasun Sat, 21 Nov 2020 02:06:49 -0800 wrote:

I used to have an Epson Stylus Photo Inkjet Printer (Probably R2880)
which was using Ultrachrome K3 ink set. The print quality, even on
common garden papers, was above my expectations and I had no problems
ever when it was operational. Due entirely to my long neglect,
clogging problem killed that printer.

Now I have an Epson L805, a simpler and cheaper model with a cheaper
(read, lower quality) ink set (EcoTank).

I have quite a stock of inkjet printing paper (mostly Kodak, labelled
as premium, ultra etc). Unfortunately, my recent L805 ink set
(especially the dark tones) is notoriusly late to dry. A fairly dark
print takes more than a week to dry. Even then, if you put a glass on
top, there are little foci that stick (or, if you press some plain
paper on the image you still see a few ink droplets transferred to the
paper).

Original Epson inkjet papers are very expensive and practically
unavailable. There is only the A3 size (not suitable for my L805) and
it is sold for about 3 dollars each. I guess there should be no ink
drying problem if one can use those.

Now, here is my question:
Can I do anything "after printing to an ordinary inkjet photo paper"
to make it dry quicker AND completely without damaging the image?
Would sunlight or heat or wind or ... work?

By the way, the printer accepts a command to print on a no-name card
and uses somewhat less ink for that (on the premise that it may not
absorb the ink well). So, there is practically nothing I can do
"before" printing.

Comments and help appreciated.

Bulent



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Re: PUG Themes for 2021 - Final List

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's the story of my life... :-)

... And they call it "just in time economy"...


Igor

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ann sanfedele Sat, 21 Nov 2020 09:07:40 -0800 wrote:

...

Igor - you know don't have to take a photo in the month the theme is in... 
in fact, you'd be submitting it late every time if you did. ;-)

ann



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Re: PUG Themes for 2021 - Final List

[Igor PDML-StR]

I see the antipodean calendar embedded in this list. :-)

There is a Russian saying about a greedy person: "you wouldn't get snow 
from him/her in the middle of a winter".

It would be even harder to find snow in August in the Northern hemisphere.
:-)

Flora in November can also a bit challenging for the northerners, as by 
now, there has been snow in some regions. But at least some would have (or 
would just had) a golden fall.


Just saying...

Igor

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Brian W Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:29:51 -0800 wrote:

As the saying goes - "you can't please everyone" - so here is the final list. I
had to leave in a couple of themes that were not popular and pad out the 12
months with two or three themes from past PUGs.

So, here is the list:
Jan: Weather
Feb: Landscapes in Black & White
Mar: Marine
Apr: Still Life
May: Railway
Jun: Open Gallery
Jul: Architecture
Aug: Snow
Sep: Mailboxes
Oct: Patterns in Nature
Nov: Flora
Dec: Road Less Travelled

Cheers
Brian






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Re: Peso: School Picture

[Igor PDML-StR]

Cool photo, and a nice kid!

Just on Tuesday, I took our daughter (who is in the "virtual mode") to the 
school, for the school photo. I was entertaining the thought of doing one 
myself, - but I lack any suitable backdrop. Besides, not doing this type 
of shots routinely would make it a rather involved project.

So, I let it to be done by the people who are better set up than I am.
I wish some PDMLers were closer. :)

Cheers,
Igor



Bill Fri, 20 Nov 2020 09:40:26 -0800 wrote:

On 11/20/2020 11:35 AM, ann sanfedele wrote:

Ok, so a sweet looking kid nicely photo-ed but what is with the silver 
hair?  If she were living down here it would have to be purple or green 
highlights to fit in :-)


Or is that just the lighting?


ann


She had her hair dyed bright blue a couple of months ago, the colour has 
faded to a kind of silvery blue



bill

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Re: dos PESOS - Covid life in the east village

[Igor PDML-StR]

"Outdoors" dining with the fully-enclosed "outdoors" defeats the purpose 
and it is ridiculous.
There was even a news segment about that on one of the major TV networks 
last week.
(And, IMHO, in some cases, it might be even worse than a properly done 
"indoors", - because such "outdoors" lacks HVAC-driven air circulation.)



I never know if it is a mis-directed inventiveness or just a lack of 
thinking.

It's like making 1-inch holes in a strainer to let the water out easier...
(or holes in the face masks for easy-breathie...)

Igor



ann sanfedele Fri, 20 Nov 2020 06:16:14 -0800 wrote:

Thanks, PAul  not so -nice_ though.. alas7th street pretty much looks 
like that too .



ann


On 11/20/2020 8:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Nice. “Fine Dining...” is classic!

Paul

On Nov 20, 2020, at 8:43 AM, ann sanfedele  
wrote:


Don't take my K-5 out anymore  too heavy  - here are a couple of 
snaps from

yesterday in the neighborhood with my P Canon


https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2020-New-York-at-home-and-on-silent-streets/i-WhSbZ68/A


https://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/2020-New-York-at-home-and-on-silent-streets/i-HKjp4JN/A

ann

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Re: PESO Fungus anonymous

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's a nice shot - with great sharp image and interesting composition.

It is indeed hard to identify the mushroom. My first reaction was it was 
one from the genus Leccinum, in the family Boletaceae, e.g. Leccinum 
scabrum aka Birch bolete.

But under-the-hat (hymenium) looks like they don't have pores but gills.
If that's the case, - I've seen this type, but I've never known what it is 
called: we've just ignored those.


Cheers,
Igor



Toine Thu, 12 Nov 2020 12:36:12 -0800 wrote:

It's amazingly quiet on the list.
Another one of my lock-down photo walks:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-952-20201112-img3568

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Google will stop unlimited google photo storage in June 2021

[Igor PDML-StR]

Just FYI, in case someone is relying on free Google photo storage.

https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/11/21560810/google-photos-unlimited-cap-free-uploads-15gb-ending


Igor


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Re: Also on this day...Was...Re: PUG Themes for 2020 - revised list

[Igor PDML-StR]

https://youtu.be/9JxhTnWrKYs

And in response to Bob's memories:
https://youtu.be/-w3iPFl-cfI
900 dollarydoos.



On 11/10/2020 4:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Not nearly as exciting, but when I was a teen and I went someplace in 
the
evening, Mom would have me call collect for myself when I arrived 
safely and

she’d reject the call so that it wouldn’t cost anything.

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ann sanfedele Tue, 10 Nov 2020 14:19:27 -0800 wrote:

That method was used often to let someone know you were safe to home, 
arriving soon, etc.. sometimes one would use a fake name that parsed to a 
message..



ann


On 11/10/2020 4:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:



Not nearly as exciting, but when I was a teen and I went someplace in 
the
evening, Mom would have me call collect for myself when I arrived 
safely and

she’d reject the call so that it wouldn’t cost anything.

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l...@red4est.com






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Re: OT: Saved by the Whale's Tail

[Igor PDML-StR]

Just in case, let me clarify: I was not the author. The source/author 
is referenced.


Igor


 lrc Mon, 02 Nov 2020 15:40:50 -0800 wrote:

It's reMarkable

On November 2, 2020 1:36:09 PM PST, Rick Womer wrote:

That is a brilliant limerick!

Rick


On Nov 2, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:



A Rotterdam artist's creation
Prevented a train conflagration -
On leaving the rail,
It stopped on the whale,
Which wasn't its scheduled cetacean.

https://twitter.com/twitmericks/status/1323317926309613577



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Re: OT: Saved by the Whale's Tail

[Igor PDML-StR]

A Rotterdam artist's creation
Prevented a train conflagration -
On leaving the rail,
It stopped on the whale,
Which wasn't its scheduled cetacean.

https://twitter.com/twitmericks/status/1323317926309613577




Daniel J. Matyola Mon, 02 Nov 2020 11:54:49 -0800 wrote:

The guy who designed it was quite surprised that it held up the train.

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On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 1:43 PM Toine  wrote:


Dutch audio and subtitles. The video shows the strange scene:




https://nos.nl/video/2354930-ik-vind-het-mooi-als-dingen-op-een-andere-manier-gebruikt-worden.html


On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, 18:44 Daniel J. Matyola,  

wrote:


> Just a strange story and a wonderful photo:
>
>
>


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/11/02/rotterdam-whale-sculpture-train-crash

>
> Dan Matyola


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Use of GPS in cameras?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All!

In the K3-III thread, people have been disappointed about the lack of the 
GPS capability in the new APS flagship.

So, that got me thinking: how do people use GPS in their cameras?
What are the "use cases"?

I can see that people using astrotracers might need GPS. Also, if you are 
taking travel photographs, it might help you to create a "photo 
journal/map" of your trip.

But what about outside of those cases?

K-1 is the first dedicated camera (i.e. outside of the cell phone) that 
has a GPS capability, but I have not turned it on yet.
(I was thinking about doing that during the trip to Yellowstone/Grand 
Teton parks, but I didn't have good spare batteries on hand, so, I was 
preserving the batteries, as one day I got very close to empty.)



Also, all my export presets in LR have "remove location" from the photos, 
- to avoid some unnecessary accidental exposure with the photos posted to 
the web. (I am not a celebrity, and not being stalked, but it is just a 
general privacy precaution.)


Cheers,

Igor


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Re: The 2021 PUG - Themes & High Res

[Igor PDML-StR]

Brian,

I would suggest a slight modification of some of the suggested topics.
(I think this way, it might open the theme for broader interpretations, 
thus inviting some out-of-the-box contributions.)


Close up -> Up close and personal
Food -> Calories for Intake
Eggs -> Eggstatic or Eggcentric
Snow -> "Snow what?" or "Is that snow?"
(I've decided against Every Snow Often, I suppose snow, I told you
snow, but feel free to use any of these.)


I don't remember if we had this theme, but if we hadn't, we should (given 
the habits of the PDML):

   Puns

Additionally, I suggest a theme that allows broad interpretation:
   Cogito ergo sum.
(The phrase by René Descartes, meaning "I think, therefore I am", but 
everybody probably know that.)

I hope this one will inspire some fun photos.

While I was writing all of this, I saw some comments from others.
I sort of agree that "Eggs" might be a difficult theme for some.
Seeing that some people do not like Farm, and others do not like Garden, 
I'd suggest combining the two into "Farm and [or?] Garden".

(Farm-O-Gardon ;-) )

Cheers,

Igor



Brian W Mon, 26 Oct 2020 16:28:44 -0700 wrote:


G'day all


Several people have requested that we increase the maximum resolution of
submissions and, after discussing it with Igor, the max resolution will 
indeed

be increased in 2021.  Watch this space for further details.

Here are some suggested themes for 2021.  Please indicate your least 
favoured
ones and/or suggest other themes (keeping in mind than anything too 
obscure is

likely to see low participation):

On the Beach
Food
Marine
Close up
Weather
Derelict
Landscapes in Black & White
Railway
Eggs
Open Gallery
On the Farm
Architecture
Garden
Snow
Mailboxes
Road Less Travelled

Cheers
Brian

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OT - photos from the plane cockpit

[Igor PDML-StR]

I just came across a rather interesting exhibit of photos taken from 
the cockpit of Russian military planes by Sasha Gentsis.


The largest portion of those photos that I could find on the web are on 
this page:

https://lenta.ru/photo/2020/10/01/planes/
You can see that through Google Translate - to read the captions:
https://tinyurl.com/yxsn56uc

Here is the photographer's website (navigation is through the drop-down 
menu in the top right corner, which is a weird design):

http://gentsis.com/

Cheers,

Igor


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Re: PESO - Jailed

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Thank you, Dan and Bob!

I am not sure we can really read emotions of turtles from their faces. I 
suspect it is antropomorphism speaking in us.

You might say the protagonist was smiling here:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/MaybeSmiling_IR05847.jpg
(which was literally a minute a part from the other shot).

This big guy was actually running around in the area of at least 60x60 ft. 
He/she was pacing back and forth along the wire-fence perimeter, and, 
just before the photo was taken, ended his/her lap, turning to the fence.


I forgot to mention that the photo was taken with K-1 & Tamron 70-300
at 300 mm (uncropped).

Cheers,

Igor


 Daniel J. Matyola Mon, 26 Oct 2020 11:16:46 -0700 wrote:

Nice image, but the poor fellow looks unhappy!

Dan Matyola

On Mon, 26 Oct 2020, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



To help breaking the silence, yet another portrait:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/Jailed_IR05870.jpg

All comments are welcome!

Cheers,

Igor



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PESO - Jailed

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To help breaking the silence, yet another portrait:
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/Jailed_IR05870.jpg

All comments are welcome!

Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Angry Birds

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, Dan, Toine, Larry, Paul, and Ann for your comments, and 
everybody for looking!


Ann, this was at Franklin Drive Thru Safari. It is a small-ish one, near a 
small town of Franklin, just 40-some-minutes drive from us.
It is one of very few relatively safe activities during the hot and long 
Texas summer.



We've been at FW zoo (as well as Dallas and Houston ones) - but it's been 
a while ago. I am thinking that of those "traditional zoos, I liked the 
one in Dallas the most.




Igor



 ann sanfedele Fri, 23 Oct 2020 14:39:28 -0700 wrote:

I don't think the second one looks so angry :-)  I like him the best.  Are 
these and the tongue in cheek guy perhaps


taken at  the Forth Worth Zoo, Igor?

ann


On Fri, 23 Oct 2020, Igor PDML-StR wrote:



When a friend saw these two photos, she said, "Now I know how 'angry birds' 
look!".

http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/AngryBirds1_IR05359.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/AngryBirds2_IR05437.jpg

Both taken with the same Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8 @ 70mm.
I am thinking that I should've close down the aperture to increase the DOF. 
(But I maybe they wouldn't look as angry that way...)


All comments are welcome!

Igor




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OT - Catfish Stealing Food from a Crocodile's Mouth

[Igor PDML-StR]

I believe this was near Alan, at Kruger National Park:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MIxa0vGGho
(That's the reason I am posting it here.)

Cheers,

Igor

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PESO - Angry Birds

[Igor PDML-StR]

When a friend saw these two photos, she said, "Now I know how 'angry 
birds' look!".

http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/AngryBirds1_IR05359.jpg
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/AngryBirds2_IR05437.jpg

Both taken with the same Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8 @ 70mm.
I am thinking that I should've close down the aperture to increase the 
DOF. (But I maybe they wouldn't look as angry that way...)


All comments are welcome!

Igor


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Has anybody tried new RedRiver Polar *Luster* Metallic ?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Hi All!

I've just discovered that RedRiver renamed its "Polar Pearl Metallic" 
paper to "Polar Gloss Metallic 255", and introduced a new paper, - "Polar 
LUSTER Metallic".


For several years, I've been using RR Polar Pearl Metallic, mostly  for 
calendars and occasionally cards. I was wondering if anybody on the list 
has tried the new "Luster Metallic"?
If so, - how is it? (preferably, - in comparison to other metallic 
papers.)


Thank you!

Igor


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Re: Vintage Enlarger

[Igor PDML-StR]

I keep receiving spam that offers brand-new enlargers. :-)



Mark Roberts Tue, 20 Oct 2020 04:45:00 -0700 wrote:

At this point, *all* enlargers are vintage enlargers.




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Re: PESO - Crystal

[Igor PDML-StR]

Thank you, David, Dan, Alan and Larry for your comments.


Alan, I forgot to write, this was epsom (not Epson :-) ) salt, which is
a hydrated magnesium sulfate.

Larry, the idea of a polarizer is interesting one, but in the current 
situation it would require some contraption for the polarized light, - to 
hold a polarizer in front of a light source. And I am not quite sure if I 
actually have one: I suspect I might have only one polarizer.


Igor



 Alan C Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:01:00 -0700 wrote:

Very nice, Igor. You took me back! We did something like that with Copper 
Sulphate when our kids were at school. The crystals were quite big but, 
sadly, not photographed.



Alan C



 lrc Mon, 19 Oct 2020 23:02:13 -0700 wrote:

Very cool.

I suspect that you might have some success with polarizing both the source
light and the camera. You also might want to arrange it so that the 
crystal

face "reflects" a black background rather than the source light.


On Mon, 19 Oct 2020, Igor PDML-StR wrote:




Back in May, sitting at home, we did some scientific experiments:
we grew salt crystals, and then I quickly took a few photos that the kiddo 
could show to her virtual class.


This is the most "photogenic" crystal
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-05-18-crystals/_IR04043.html

However, it is actually polycrystalline (you can see crystallites of a 
different crystalline orientation), and it was a "byproduct".

The main crystal is monocrystalline (except maybe some junk at the edge):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-05-18-crystals/_IR04034.html

This was not a big photography project, the photographs were taken quickly on 
the kitchen table (a last-minute thought).


The biggest challenge with photographing crystals was choosing the light and 
its direction to highlight the crystal planes.
I would expect that lighting techniques used by Mark C. while photographing 
his snowflakes would be useful for this type of subject, even though these 
crystals are macroscopic, unlike the snowflakes.


All comments are welcome!


Igor



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PESO - tongue in cheek

[Igor PDML-StR]

http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-10-12-safari/TonqueInCheek_IR05424.jpg

Technical details:
Tokina ATX Pro 28-70/2.6-2.8 @70mm uncropped, on K-1.
This lens is working quite well on K-1 (unlike on the APS bodies), except 
for rather uneventful bokeh.


All comments are welcome.

Igor


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PESO - Crystal

[Igor PDML-StR]

Back in May, sitting at home, we did some scientific experiments:
we grew salt crystals, and then I quickly took a few photos that the kiddo 
could show to her virtual class.


This is the most "photogenic" crystal
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-05-18-crystals/_IR04043.html

However, it is actually polycrystalline (you can see crystallites of a 
different crystalline orientation), and it was a "byproduct".

The main crystal is monocrystalline (except maybe some junk at the edge):
http://42graphy.org/misc/2020-05-18-crystals/_IR04034.html

This was not a big photography project, the photographs were taken 
quickly on the kitchen table (a last-minute thought).


The biggest challenge with photographing crystals was choosing the light 
and its direction to highlight the crystal planes.
I would expect that lighting techniques used by Mark C. while 
photographing his snowflakes would be useful for this type of subject, 
even though these crystals are macroscopic, unlike the snowflakes.


All comments are welcome!


Igor

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Re: My Birds in the Times

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's great!

It's funny that at the end of the article they have "Send us your voting 
selfie".

http://42graphy.org/misc/NYTvotingSelfie.jpg

My first reaction was: Do they ask birds to vote for your article? ;-)


Cheers,
Igor


Paul Stenquist Sun, 18 Oct 2020 05:06:48 -0700 wrote:

For most of my live I’ve been very fortunate in that my interests — my 
passions — have often led to a happy place, a stream of income. Now my 
birds have paid off at least in a small way. From the At Home section of 
the Sunday NY Times: 
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/17/at-home/backyard-birding.html By the 
way I wanted to get deeper into the photo side of things and, in the first 
draft had even described my Pentax rig, but my Times editor didn’t want it 
to sound too expensive.

Paul

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Re: PESO - Waiting for the Airport Train, B

[Igor PDML-StR]

She is the Internet Explorer!
... and Navigator! :-)


Daniel J. Matyola Tue, 13 Oct 2020 06:54:40 -0700 wrote:

Ann is our Internet expert!

Dan Matyola
*https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
*




On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 11:02 PM ann sanfedele  wrote:


Rick.. maybe when you log into smugmug you should start  by going to
your landing page first..

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/

then navigate to the photo you want to show us...

HERE:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/Penn-Campus-Sept-2020/i-QggrzbW/A


That's how I got there -  I knew which "gallery" you and that photo were
in from the previous link that worked..



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Photo of Nobel prize (2020) winner

[Igor PDML-StR]

As some of you have heard, the Nobel Prize was given this year 
for discoveries in astrophysics. Among the winners is Sir Roger Penrose - 
for black holes (here is the summary: 
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/physics/2020/summary/ )



Here is a photo of him (on the right) that I took 10 years ago, in the 
newly built physics institute building with the foyer that has so-called 
"Penrose tile" on the floor:

http://42graphy.org/~igor/PHOTOS/Mixed-2010/Penrose_and_Tile_IR_5500.jpg

(More about the Penrose tiling: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_tiling )



Igor


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Wikipedia - "Photograph US historical sites" action

[Igor PDML-StR]

I thought, some PDMLers might be interested:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments_2020_in_the_United_States


As an aside, - that page has a link to a nice page describing the 
US Copyright law with respect to photographing buildings (as opposed to 
artwork, even permanently installed).

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/United_States#Freedom_of_panorama

Cheers,

Igor


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More on bokeh (Was: Re: PESO: 3D pop?)

[Igor PDML-StR]

Toine,

First, let me say that you've got a very nice image!

Paul has given a very simple explanation for the visual effect you (we) 
observe. The further difference is (as Paul and a few others pointed out) 
comes from the quality of the bokeh for the particular lens.


As you probably know, the lead (actually, lead oxide!) in the lens glass 
raises its refractive index. This allows for thinner lenses for a given 
focal length. However, glass with a higher refraction index has higher 
dispersion that needs to be corrected to make the lens achromatic (i.e. to 
minimize chromatic [and spherical] abberations).

So, the combination of these factors *can* affect the bokeh.

I've found this informative write-up on B website:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/explora/photography/tips-and-solutions/understanding-bokeh
It gives a nice overview of what and how plays a role in the bokeh - with 
some nice illustrations.

In particular, I didn't know that there are lenses with adjustable bokeh.

Now, I was curious about how much is known scientifically about bokeh.
It is clear that at least some lens manufacturers pay attention to it.

While I didn't do a deep comprehensive search in the scientific 
literature, it seems, - not much seems to be published on that topic.
I've been able to find a few research articles adressing the theory and 
theoretical calculation of the bokeh, but there are literally handful of 
those. (And there was some research on how to fake bokeh, - I assume aimed 
at creating "creative filters" for the phone-shooters.)


Of those, one paper I looked at was  Viktor P. Sivokon, Michael D. Thorpe
Optical Engineering, 53(6), 065103 (2014). 
https://doi.org/10.1117/1.OE.53.6.065103
(Sorry, it requires paid access. Feel free to contact me directly for 
detail.)

They were able to model bokeh mathematically (analytically) and compare
to the actual bokeh produced by lenses with a reasonable accuracy.
Here is one of their results:
http://42graphy.org/misc/BokehCalculated-SivokonThorpe.jpg

Cheers,

Igor


Toine Sun, 27 Sep 2020 10:56:03 -0700 wrote:

Yes I agree thats the main effect. However this guy even includes lead in
glass as a pop factor. The rendering of bokeh also adds to the effect.
Zooms have a busy bokeh.


https://photographylife.com/the-death-of-beautiful-rendition-and-3d-pop-on-modern-lenses

I can hardly see the difference in his before after shot with the slider

On Sun, 27 Sep 2020, 18:46 Paul Stenquist,  
wrote:



What is seen as 3D “pop” is just limited depth of field. And because
primes generally have a larger app wide open than zooms, they give you 

more

control over DOF.

Paul

> On Sep 27, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:
>
> That certainly does "pop"!
>
> Dan Matyola
> *https://tinyurl.com/DJM-Pentax-Gallery
> *
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 2:54 PM Toine  wrote:
>>
>> I read a lot about primes vs zooms and old designs of primes. That
>> should result in something like 3D pop. Never noticed it until today:
>>
>>


https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-899-20200926-imgp3095-edit

>>
>> I find myself lugging the DA*300 around on a daily basis. Maybe 

because

it
>> pops.
>>
>> Do I need new glasses?
>>
>> Toine


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Re: OT: Why are cars getting bigger?

[Igor PDML-StR]

Ghm... Google tells me that Abraham Lincoln was 6'4" (193 cm).
So, now, I know why he did not drive a car: he didn't fit in either of 
those cars.  :-)


On a serious note, one guy we knew long time ago was close to 2-m tall 
(somewhere in the vicinity of 6'6").
Surprisingly, the car he bought was a smallish one, something like Toyota 
Celica. He had tried many cars, and that one had the most leg space for 
him.


Cheers,

Igor


Boris Liberman Wed, 30 Sep 2020 22:32:55 -0700 wrote:

My late father was 172 cm tall and considered himself an average height. I
am 180 cm tall and I think just like my dad.

So, yes - he could fit comfortably in Ford Escort circa 1980es, while I'd
prefer bigger Ford Focus.

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International Observe the Moon Night

[Igor PDML-StR]

I thought several PDMLers might be curious.

https://moon.nasa.gov/observe-the-moon-night/

PS. They do not mean mooning! :-)

Igor

Sent from mobile phone




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Re: Pentax gadget

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Photos taken _with_ those might work for the next PUG: "texture". :D

... if Bryan and Bill would not ob-/re-ject. :D)))

Igor



John Sat, 19 Sep 2020 20:20:57 -0700 wrote:

I'll try to remember to take photos next time I have an appointment in 
Radiation Oncology or at the ENT clinic.


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Re: Pentax gadget

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John,

I thought that's why Alan [semi-]jokingly wrote "Pentax street legal".

Bill,
I suspect that at that time there were no Pentax DSLRs, and maybe even
no Pentax digital cameras (possibly with the exclusion of the medical 
ones)?


I would have thought that the spirit was to allow all Pentax cameras (with 
any lenses) and all Pentax lenses (with any cameras/camera backs).
This looks like a decent Pentax optics, on par with the earlier P's if 
not better,  doesn't it?


... And I won't be anal about Pentax medical imaging devices. :-)

Cheers,

Igor



Bill Sat, 19 Sep 2020 10:11:57 -0700 wrote:

On Sat., Sep. 19, 2020, 10:22 a.m. John,  wrote:



Wouldn't it technically qualify as a "Pentax Lens", so you'd be able to
submit
iPhone photos to the PDML PUG Gallery if you used it?



It would be using the letter of the law to circumvent the spirit of the 
law.

When I inserted that clause into the submission guidelines, cell phones
barely existed, much less had but in cameras.



On 9/18/2020 14:54:15, Igor PDML-StR wrote:
>
> That's an interesting device!
>
> However, there is one puzzling moment in the diagram caption in this
image:
>


https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/AVM6x21WP_features-1-830x414.png

>
> "The phase coating applied to the prism, suppressed flare and goose, 

..."

>
> I am unable to figure out what word they meant instead of "goose".
> Are they on a wild goose chase? ;-)
> (or is that me?)
>
>
> BTW, it is listed for pre-orders on Ricoh website, but it is available
on Amazon
> since August 3, 2020: $139 for the monocular alone, and $199 for the
complete kit:
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DXTZ1RD/
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
>
> Alan C Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:27:37 -0700 wrote:
>
> Make your SmartPhone Pentax "street legal". (Probably old news?)
>
>
> https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/product/vm-6x21-wp-monocular/
> <https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/product/vm-6x21-wp-monocular/>
>
>
> Alan C
>


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Re: Pentax gadget

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That's an interesting device!

However, there is one puzzling moment in the diagram caption in this 
image:

https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/AVM6x21WP_features-1-830x414.png
"The phase coating applied to the prism, suppressed flare and goose, ..."

I am unable to figure out what word they meant instead of "goose".
Are they on a wild goose chase? ;-)
(or is that me?)


BTW, it is listed for pre-orders on Ricoh website, but it is available on 
Amazon since August 3, 2020: $139 for the monocular alone, and $199 for 
the complete kit:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08DXTZ1RD/


Cheers,

Igor



Alan C Fri, 18 Sep 2020 02:27:37 -0700 wrote:

Make your SmartPhone Pentax "street legal". (Probably old news?)


https://us.ricoh-imaging.com/product/vm-6x21-wp-monocular/ 




Alan C

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Re: PESO: mushroom season

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's a very attractive photo, especially at a higher(tighter) zoom 
level, where you can see every detail, as a few people have pointed out 
already.

The glow is a nice touch!

Despite being avid mushroom gatherers (and eaters), we've never gathered
any of this type. Of all the mushrooms growing on trees and stumps, we 
only gathered Armillaria - which we liked a lot! Those are tasty and easy 
to handle, as they are almost never damaged by larva ("worms").



(Fun fact: in Russian, sulphur shelf/sulphur polypore mushrooms are called 
"trutoviki", which shares the word root with "truten'" - drone bee; this 
root means "parasite". These mushrooms are sometimes regarded as 
"sanitarians of forests" that help keeping the forests healthy, but seen 
as "pests" in personal gardens, as they ensure a quick death of your 
favorite fruit tree.)


Igor


ann sanfedele Thu, 17 Sep 2020 03:45:42 -0700 wrote:

That is such a lovely photo.. I've eaten them and they are delicious - one 
of the few I felt confident enough to gather.   I bet it was not long 
before those were cut down... commonly called sulphur shelf here.



ann


On 9/17/2020 3:25 AM, Henk Terhell wrote:

Autumn is still very sunny here in western Europe so mushrooms are 
only slowly popping up.


Here a more resilient type, sulphur polypore on a dead tree.
You can eat these but I rather stick to carrots.
https://flic.kr/p/2jGPDWM

Henk



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Re: PESO: Life on Mars

[Igor PDML-StR]

That's an interesting image!

So, the next time, you should point to Venus: They've just found possible
traces of life there:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/venus-life-phosiphine-gas-scientists/

Cheers!

Igor


On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:59 AM wrote:


Maybe I pointed the telescope lens in the wrong direction:

https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=005-875-20200916-imgp2753

Toine



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Speed-photographing?

[Igor PDML-StR]

It looks like a renewed challenge for photographers: speed photographing 
in public places:

https://www.facebook.com/JordanMatterPhotography/videos/340158497339558/?story_fbid=10157199188877077=311293567076=aeMG32MC4UnnzD3l=null=e


That's a super-flexible (without going freakish) model who knows how to 
make (and keep) lines. (She looks like a ballet dancer and possibly a 
gymnast.)

The photographer who has a good eye for what would make a good shot.
He seems to be over-fixated on the splits in various orientations, but 
that seems to be a big element showing flexibility (short of deep 
contortions).


I just looked farther.
The guy has a bunch of similar videos in other settings on his FB page.
This one has more variations on the poses:
https://www.facebook.com/JordanMatterPhotography/videos/369888947514101/


And this has more varieties, I think, because the poses are offered by the 
gymnasts themselves: 
https://www.facebook.com/JordanMatterPhotography/videos/1248163762195025/



Cheers,

Igor


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