Re: TA

2013-11-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
If people wanted more male nude photos then they would happen.  We may have 
biased attitudes but for matters of taste like photography , unlike legal 
rights, this has to change slowly.   A picture of a naked person will elicit a 
sexual response, positive or negative, from most people.   I don't believe at 
all that sexuality goes away just because it's art, statue of David included.  

Steve Desjardins

On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 On 26 Nov 2013, at 14:05, Aahz Maruch a...@pobox.com wrote:
 
 On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Bob W wrote:
 
 That's the way equality is. It's not a question of 'us' 'giving'
 exposure to anyone. Every adult is free to do whatever they damn well
 like providing they don't infringe the same rights of others. Doesn't
 matter what their bits are like - you don't have to look at them if
 you don't want to. All those people are 'us'.
 
 I'd be more inclined to agree without if there wasn't that pesky larger
 context.  This is, after all, a world where women get paid less than men,
 have less access to political power, get raped more frequently, etc.
 
 So Frank has a point that what happens on PDML may in fact reflect that
 larger context.
 
 Well, I agree with you that the world is somewhat unbalanced in this respect, 
 and that is where the matter of free, informed consent comes into it. It's 
 very difficult to know in any given instance whether someone is genuinely 
 giving their consent freely, and I think I mentioned elsewhere the matter of 
 peer pressure, society pressure and so on. 
 
 I think on a matter like this, where the people involved are apparently well 
 informed, and living in a liberal democracy, we have to presume that they are 
 fully aware of the nature of what they're doing, and we shouldn't try to 
 project our own reading of the situation and our own morals onto them.
 
 At the same time we have to stay aware that others are forced or pressured 
 into doing things they'd rather not and, as a society, offer them a way out 
 of it if they wish to take it.
 
 
 I do agree with the people who say that any changes in the PDML should
 come from individuals, but if you're upset that Frank brought up the
 subject in the first place, you need to educate yourself.
 
 I imagine you mean 'you' in the general sense, rather than me specifically. 
 I'm not upset that Frank brought it up - it's an important issue, but I think 
 we have to be careful while striving to be well-meaning that we don't bend 
 over so far that we either get our heads stuck somewhere, or that we turn 
 into Puritans or the Taliban.
 
 B
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Re: Upcoming trip: NOLA

2013-11-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
Bourbon St and surroundings obviously.   Also, pictures or not, I would 
strongly recommend the WWII museum. It's $30 but well worth it.

Steve Desjardins

On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Walt ldott...@gmail.com wrote:

 So, it looks like I'll be going on a little road trip with a friend next 
 week, to New Orleans.
 
 Anybody have any suggestions for where to go for photographic purposes? 
 (Hell isn't an option. Sorry.)
 
 I'd like to get interesting shots, rather than provide a vicarious 
 sight-seeing tour for potential viewers when I get back. So any interesting 
 places you may be able to point me to would be much appreciated.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -- Walt
 
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Re: The Cynic's Photographic Dictionary

2013-11-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
Excellent.  I know there's $$$ to be made with the first devoted selfie camera.

Steve Desjardins

On Nov 22, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2013/11/the-devils-photography-dictionary
 Enjoy.
 
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 I don't have a problem with idiots.
 I have a problem with the fact that they have an internet connection.
 
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Re: full frame??

2013-11-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
Very true.  Although I still have great admiration for Boris's pessimism :-)

Steve Desjardins

On Nov 3, 2013, at 1:15 AM, Bill anotherdrunken...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 02/11/2013 10:56 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
 I'm Jewish, Bill and I pride myself in being an amateur photographer. I
 suppose I am also an amateur pessimist. Now, I think that as a
 photographer I am not half bad... It is up to you to complete this line
 of reasoning :-).
 
 I'm not saying that Ricoh is doing badly by finally making proper
 investment (in all terms, not just money) into Pentax. Rather, I
 sincerely believe that all that rumor mill is not doing company any
 good. Each time there is a new release from Pentax, the rumor mill
 starts anew. This creates illogical expectations, starts new flame wars
 on internet forums and ultimately leads to people being disappointed.
 
 Pessimistic or not, I don't see any good in these things.
 
 Internet forums need to be taken for what they are worth. Over on the Fuji 
 forum at DPReview, a guy is wailing that Fuji isn't making a commitment to 
 the APS-C aensor size, and therefore he doesn't think Fuji is a good 
 purchase, just in case they dump APS-C in favour of 35mm.
 Of course Fuji has never said anything one way or the other about 35mm.
 Companies cannot do anything about the illogic of people, especially it seems 
 when they invest the degree of fanaticism into a camera brand that manifests 
 as overarching fanboyism.
 Companies can't be responsible for people being disappointed over new 
 products, they can't be responsible for the illogical expectations of 
 fanatics, all they can do is put products on the market for sale, and try to 
 hit a market point that will buy it.
 
 If Pentax, or any company, was to place the importance you are implying they 
 should on the rumour mills of internet fanboys, they would pretty much have 
 to stop putting new products on the market entirely, since every new release 
 would be causing a new group of whack jobs to slit their wrists.
 
 It seems they really can't win. They put nothing on the market, and they go 
 out of business, they put new products on the market and that isn't a good 
 thing either.
 
 Respectfully Boris, and I mean this with all the love in my heart that I can 
 feel for a fellow human being, you need to give your head a shake.
 
 bill
 
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Re: Maverick OSX

2013-10-25 Thread Steve Desjardins
I got a similar warning as Rick from WL's IT'S dept.  it sounds like there are 
some network issues and they want to see them fixed first.   

Steve Desjardins

On Oct 24, 2013, at 10:07 PM, Rick Womer rwomer1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 The university that provides my paycheck issued a warning this afternoon NOT 
 to upgrade to Maverick until 10.9.1 at least.  They reported many problems 
 with network access, multiple monitors, and a variety of software, including 
 MSOffice 11 and EndNote.
 
 I'm glad that there are early adopters of software, OSes, and cameras; and 
 I'm VERY glad I'm not one of them.
 
 Rick
 
 
 
  
 http://photo.net/photos/RickW
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
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 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:26 PM
 Subject: Maverick OSX
 
 Has anyone upgraded their Mac to Maverick? Any glitches. It's supposed to 
 speed some things up and has some nice new features. But I'm a little nervous 
 about diving right in on this one. Sounds like a significant change.
 
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Re: OT: Olympus E-M1 - under exposure recovery

2013-10-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
That's a nice little experiment and very pleasant results.  Of course, I 
staying pat with the EM5 for now.  I live one generation behind.

Steve Desjardins

On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godfreydigio...@me.com wrote:

 Wrote a little something on this for the DPR mFT forum:
 
 http://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/52327502
 
 Godfrey
 
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Re: Kirk Tuck likes the K-01 ...

2013-08-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
I hate it when that happens.   

Steve Desjardins

On Aug 14, 2013, at 1:25 PM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote:

 And I had a new PZ-1 that died shooting a pig roast in light rain
 and under a steamy tent as the pig was carved.
 Sent it back to Pentax, Colorado under warranty.
 Regards,  Bob S.
 
 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 11:36 AM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 12:08:29AM -0400, kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:
 I consider myself somewhat of an 'adventure' photographer and I too
 can say weathersealing has never made any difference in my
 photography - rain, sleet, snow, blowing sand etc.
 
 IMO its more of a marketing thing than an actual factor.
 
 I've had a camera (a PZ-1p) start behaving very strangely when I was
 photographing during moderate rain.  So I just switched to the MX :-)
 
 
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Re: PEso - Birthday girl

2013-07-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice.  Remember when 400 was high speed?

Steve Desjardins

On Jul 16, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Ann Sanfedele ann...@nyc.rr.com wrote:

 Warning - more cat
 
 Ashley turned 8 years today.  Took this with the K-5 at ISO 25600 - I'm just 
 getting such a kick out of being able to do it.
 
 http://annsan.smugmug.com/On-the-Road-or-On-Foot/Learning-the-K-5/30564911_mcsJ8s/1/2639199018_GjQRDWV/Medium
 
 I'm struggling a bit with some settings... too many choices
 
 ann
 
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Re: OT: We can do it!

2013-07-05 Thread Steve Desjardins
That's such a great shot.  Thanks for sharing that,

Steve Desjardins

On Jul 4, 2013, at 9:43 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://themetapicture.com/media/cool-women-power-photo-real.jpg
 
 Dan Matyola
 http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
 
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Re: test

2013-06-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
Multiple choice or essay?

Steve Desjardins

On Jun 23, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Christine Aguila christ...@caguila.com wrote:

 test
 
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Re: OT: Mad Scientists

2013-06-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
They always poop like that at Disney.

Steve Desjardins

On Jun 14, 2013, at 9:58 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 One of my guitar playing friends sent this to me, so I thought I'd pass it 
 along to y'all.
 
 Pro-biotic drink to give you kodachrome turds if you're sick.
 
 http://www.medicaldaily.com/articles/10351/20120618/probiotic-drink-feces-e-coli-e-chromi.htm
 
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RE: Devolution

2009-01-07 Thread Steve Desjardins
Mark!  (sorry, Mark, but it is a funny comment . . .)

 Bob W p...@web-options.com 1/7/2009 3:31 AM 

I did - I devolved myself back to an Australopithecine. When it
finished I
found I bore a remarkable resemblance to Mark Roberts.

 
 You go first, Bob ;-)  Cheers, Christine
 
 
 
 
  http://www.open.ac.uk/darwin/devolve-me.php 
 


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Re: Looooooooooooong Exposure

2009-01-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
A fascinating photo.  I wanted to try this, but I'm still waiting for
the new Pepsi* pinhole lenses from Pentax.  They're supposed to be out
in early February.

 John Celio n...@neovenator.com 1/4/2009 6:31 AM 

You think you've done long exposures?  Not even close:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/3496139/Stunning-photographs-of-landmark-captured-over-six-month-period.html

Or:
http://tinyurl.com/5ou8pf 

Pretty cool result.

John

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Re: Looooooooooooong Exposure

2009-01-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
Most have heard of these, but for the others:

http://www.lenoxlaser.com/pinholephotos/SLR_Pinhole_Camera_Kits.html 

BTW, what I like most about the original photo was show it shows how
the eccentricities in the apparent path of the sun changes with the
seasons.

Steven Desjardins
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Lexington, VA 24450
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FAX: (540) 458-8878
desjard...@wlu.edu

 Mat Maessen tomatoe...@gmail.com 1/4/2009 9:20 AM 

On 1/4/09, Steve Desjardins desjard...@wlu.edu wrote:
 A fascinating photo.  I wanted to try this, but I'm still waiting
for
  the new Pepsi* pinhole lenses from Pentax.  They're supposed to be
out
  in early February.

I've got one of the prototypes here. Works well. :-)

http://www.matoe.org/gallery2/d/823-2/IMGP0119K10D.jpg 

(borrowed) K10D, pinhole lens made from a genuine Pepsi can.

-Mat

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Re: Irony

2009-01-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
Or it could be just a slip of tungsten . . .

 Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com 1/2/2009 12:21 PM 

Yes, enduring this pun onslaught will certainly test your metal.

Jack


--- On Fri, 1/2/09, Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu wrote:

 From: Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu
 Subject: Re: Irony
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 8:44 AM
 AlunFoto wrote:
  
  2009/1/2 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com:
  On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Doug Franklin
 wrote:
 
  Irony is a Scotsman cloning a sheep.
 
  Irony is naming an airport after the guy that
 fired the Air Traffic
  Controllers.
  I thought irony was a synonym for
 ferrous.
 
   Glad we could ferrite that out.
 
 I've been steeling myself for the inevitable follow-ups
 to this.
 
 
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Re: OT. Are you being frustrated? - You are a happy person!

2008-12-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
Yes, yes! Reduced packaging and enlarged pens!  I'm always losing the
damned things since they are too small.  My wife says size doesn't
matter, but I always catch her eyeing those big fountain pens at
Staples.  G. . . .

 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net 12/29/2008 5:23 PM 

hear, hear!  let's reduce over packaging.  I'm for that!  Cheers,
Christine


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From: Bob W p...@web-options.com
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: OT. Are you being frustrated? - You are a happy person!


 This is quite an important subject - about usability for elderly
people,
 children and handicapped people. And also for people like me who hate

 having
 to struggle with packaging. It's also important from the green point
of 
 view
 to eliminate unnecessary packaging. I think this is to be applauded.

 It's nice to see people having the Christmas spirit. I came home
today to 
 a
 great many kind offers in my email from companies who would like to 
 enlarge
 my pens.

 Bob

 -Original Message-
 From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
 Behalf Of Igor Roshchin
 Sent: 29 December 2008 20:53
 To: PDML@pdml.net 
 Subject: OT. Are you being frustrated? - You are a happy person!



 Wow!
 Defrustratization by Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/?nodeId=200285450



 ... and someone being frustrated by the lack of frustration-free
item:
 http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2008/12/m 
 arkets-in-ev-9.html
 While having unpacked a few toys for my nephew, I agree that
 some things
 can require substantial time and effort to unpack them, I would not
be
 that obsessed about it.

 Rephrasing Karlsson (from Karlsson-on-the-Roof), - if the
frustration
 packaging of your toys is the main thing that bothers you, you
should
 consider yourself a happy person!

 Enjoy and Happy New Year!

 Igor


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Re: Wuthering Heights

2008-12-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
Very nice.  That tree with the green moss makes a striking picture.

 Bob W p...@web-options.com 12/29/2008 5:34 PM 

I spent Christmas with family in the genteel tweediness of Harrogate,
then
with friends in the raw Wuthering Heightsiness of a hamlet near Hebden
Bridge. Here is a small gallery of photos:

http://www.web-options.com/X2008/ 

Bob


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Re: PESO - sure it's been done before...

2008-12-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
What a great image.  all the frames offsetting the people, including the
one in the painting.  Nice catch!

 Doug Brewer d...@alphoto.com 12/29/2008 2:29 PM 

http://www.drivingtheflies.com/?p=839 

enjoy

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Re: [OT] Panasonic G1 beauty snap ...

2008-12-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
A pancake 40 would be a bit slow but would make a very small package.

Steven Desjardins
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 sandyinchina sandyinch...@gmail.com 12/28/2008 4:28 AM 

Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@mac.com wrote:

 On Dec 27, 2008, at 8:57 PM, sandyinchina wrote:

 I'm thinking something like a 50/3.5 -- Leica, cheap Russian, or
 the aspherical Voigtlander if could find it  ...

 I would go for a fast 40-50mm lens, why stick with something almost
as slow
 as the zoom it comes with?

Collapsible. Tiny; the Voigtlander is 150 g. Sharp; Popular
Photography
called the V among the sharpest lenses it had ever tested:
http://www.popphoto.com/cameralenses/334/voigtlnder-heliar-50mm-f35.html


Haven't found a Voigtlander yet; might or might not seem worth its
price if I do. Cameraquest does have the later  faster 50/2
collapsible at $429.

At $50 or so, often with a camera thrown in, the Russia ones look
irresistable.

I'd get a faster 50 as well, for when I need it. Used 1.8s are cheap
but I'd look for 1.4 or even a bargain 1.2.

 The one I have my eye on is the Nokton 40mm f/1.4.

Yeah, that's nice. Why not a used 35mm? Or 43mm Limited?

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Re: 42

2008-12-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
What's the opposite of whittle?

dewhittle.

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Re: It's a girl

2008-12-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
Congratulations!  Now they can really gang up on you.  Of course, this
will require more lenses.

Steven Desjardins
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 Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com 12/26/2008 10:38 AM 

Again!

Today (Dec 26th) at 2am local time (Jerusalem Time Zone) my wife Julia

gave birth to a baby girl. Somehow the baby looks very much like Galia

when she was the same age only slightly smaller (3.2 kg).

Everyone is healthy and everything is ok.

Pentax content will surely follow.

Boris

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RE: Another Casualty.

2008-12-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
Adorama has a really good price on a Polaroid camera.  

http://www.adorama.com/PDONE6U.html?emailprice=t

May want to drop it a bit more ;-)

 m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com 12/26/2008 2:42 PM 


 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  There was also the pre-Powerpoint blueprint film, whose name I
forget.  
  
 
 That'll be dyeline paper, a diazo process.  Ilfochrome / Cibachrome
also
 used azo dyes, which are dyes that whose chemical bonds somehow break
down
 when exposed to strong or UV light, leaving the unexposed part to be
 developed to an autopositive image (same ultimate result as reversal
but a
 different chemical process).  Dyeline paper is developed in ammonia
fumes.
 If you handle any freshly developed dyeline paper you MUST NOT handle
any
 other film or photographic paper until you've thoroughly washed your
hands,
 because ammonia will completely fog them, whether they're exposed or
not.
 
 regards, Anthony

Sorry, not being clear.  There was a Polaroid 35mm film that output
similar images to cyanotpye.  White image on a blue background.  It was
used to produce slides of writing for use in AV presentations.  It was
terrifyingly expensive and, before the days of TTL flash, you had to
sacrifice a film in testing to obtin correct exposure. 

 
  -Original Message-
  From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On
Behalf Of
  m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, 24 December 2008 9:20 PM
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  Subject: Re: Another Casualty.
  
  
   John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote:
   From: John Francis
I believe there was also Polaroid-branded 35mm roll film.
  
   They developed and marketed a 35mm instant film that didn't do
very well
   in the market. IIRC, it was transparency film available in both
color
   and BW versions.
  
   Later they offered Polaroid brand C-41 process 35mm film, and may
have
   offered an E6 35mm film as well.
  
   I'm sure about the C-41 version because I have a roll in the
freezer;
   not so sure about the E6.
  
  There was also the pre-Powerpoint blueprint film, whose name I
forget.
 All of the
  Polaroid 35mm stuff was self (and dry) process, to give you the
quickest
 result.
  
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RE: Test Only

2008-12-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
I know my spam filter seems to eat PDML posts at random.  However, it
does seem to be fond of those by Bruce Dayton (seriously).


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 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com 12/23/2008 8:16 PM 

I suspect that not everyone's seeing every message.  There are often
references to older messages that I haven't seen.  Some threads seem
to
arrive in a large block when they're already well under way. 

An occasional check of the archives is helpful, but it doesn't prove
that
all the list members are actually getting your messages.  Sigh.

Regards, Anthony

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Of
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 Last three posts have not shown up on the list. Alright, who's
fooling
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Re: DA*60-250 f/4

2008-12-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
 I wanted to give the K10D a go in the horse world.

In hind site, after looking at a large number of shots and FL shot at,
. . .


Sorry, but this just struck me as funny.  Too many PDML pun threads . .
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Re: Merry Christmas everyone!

2008-12-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
Best wishes to all, and to all . . .

 frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com 12/24/2008 10:40 AM


On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Lasse Karlsson ma20...@aland.net
wrote:
 Hi all,

 Merry Christmas to everyone who celebrates it and all my best wishes
to
 those of you who don't!

 Chocolates!
 Lasse

All the best! to you and your family, Lasse!

cheers,
frank

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Re: Merry Christmas

2008-12-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
Always adorable!  My own little girl (she's 21) just wandered off to
bed.  Oddly enough, we're be having cinnamon rolls for breakfast, just
as we have for the last 17 years or so.  Could be the last time for a
while.

Enjoy the day, people, and take lots of pictures.

 PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net 12/24/2008 11:19 AM 

Gracie would like to wish all those who celebrate the day a very Merry 

Christmas.
And for those who don't, enjoy your day off!

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8420997 

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Re: OT - For the Star Wars Geeks.

2008-12-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
LOL.  The sad part is that it is pretty cool.  If only it had the
aperture simulator . . .

 David Savage ozsav...@gmail.com 12/23/2008 1:15 PM 

This may be old news to some, but I think it is way cool:

http://gizmodo.com/386007/r2%20d2-projector-in-action-video-verdict-a-must-have

You know you want one.

Cheers,

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RE: Bravo Mike.

2008-12-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
As long as they don't get married.

 Bob W p...@web-options.com 12/23/2008 3:19 PM 

 
 Are you making prints or are you pixel-peeping? (And if you're 
 pixel-peeping, why?)
 

I'm not a pixel-peeper myself, but if people want to peep at pixels,
where's
the harm? A bit like stamp-collecting or train-spotting.

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Re: Panasonic G1 beauty snap ...

2008-12-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
You're having far too much fun with this camera, Godfrey.  If
photography was supposed to be enjoyable we'd all  still be using
Spotmatics. 

 Godfrey DiGiorgi ramar...@mac.com 12/23/2008 9:56 PM 

Thought this was kinda fun ...

   http://homepage.mac.com/godders/G1_w_ZD50-200.jpg 

enjoy
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Re: PESO: Cat and Pathologist

2008-12-22 Thread Steve Desjardins
A cold day is when cats and humans work best together.  Nice shot of the
symbiosis.

 Cotty cotty...@mac.com 12/22/2008 2:22 AM 

On 21/12/08, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dec_21.jpg 
A quiet evening at home. Lisa relaxes with a book and one of our cats
(Webster). Lisa has a glass of wine at hand and of course there's a
pager nearby, too, in case Webster gets called in for an emergency by
the Chief Cat...

The cat has a nice hot water bottle :-)

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Scotland-bound (was: Re: After Snowmageddon)

2008-12-22 Thread Steve Desjardins
Enjoy the holidays.  May you find a Haggis in your stocking.

And they say England is a cold wet place.

Mild southerlies around a high pressure mean that we bask in 12 deg c
for a few days.


We're off to Scotland for a family break  - sister lives here:

http://tinyurl.com/6kgwdx

Coll - small island within Inner Hebrides (pronounced heb'rid'eez)

http://maps.google.com/maps?client=s 
afariq=collie=UTF8oe=UTF-8z=11g=coll

Taking *ist Ds + 18-55 and RD-1 + 15 + 28 + 50

Oh yeah, taking EF mount Pentax 15/3.5 17/4 and 85/1.4 for my sister's
other half to play with. He takes pics like this:

http://tinyurl.com/axacam

I will be shooting some video, sort of a cathartic family thing, an
homage to the family I guess. Kinda need to do it.

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Re: That Way

2008-12-22 Thread Steve Desjardins
I like how the angel is pointing out the exit.  ;-)  

(Although I admit, having gone to college in the 70's, I got all
excited reading Christine's comment. At least until I saw the comma ;-)

 Christine  Aguila cagu...@earthlink.net 12/22/2008 1:16 AM 

Very nice, Bong.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Bong Manayon bongmana...@gmail.com
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 6:57 PM
Subject: PESO: That Way


 After that golden wedding anniversary I'm back to sitting in front
of
 the computer until the next documentary after Christmas.  Hope to be
 bored in the next couple of days.  Here's a photo I took in one of
 those old churches where we shot a wedding...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bongmanayon/2975684197/ 

 Enjoy!
 Bong
 (suicide by boredom)
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Re: PESO: Cat and Pathologist

2008-12-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
maybe you should turn up the heat a bit ;-)

 Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu 12/21/2008 8:46 PM 

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/dec_21.jpg 
A quiet evening at home. Lisa relaxes with a book and one of our cats 
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the Chief Cat...

K20D, DA*16-50/2.8, AF540FGZ bounced off the wall.

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Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-20 Thread Steve Desjardins
Actually, it's Admitting, you have a problem, is the first step.


 Doug d...@alphoto.com 12/20/2008 11:19 AM 


On Dec 20, 2008, at 7:54 AM, AlunFoto wrote:


 Then I will go and join Doug Brewer's therapy group for
 excessive-compulsive use of commas. :-)

 Jostein

Admitting you have a problem is the first step.

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RE: Big Thanks

2008-12-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
See what you did, Christine?  We are glad you're here;  you might be the
only cheerful (while sober) member of the PDML.

 Bob W p...@web-options.com 12/19/2008 11:36 AM 

  
  Cormorant, cormorant, no can't say as I've heard of that.  
  Who are you anyway?
  
 
 The red-footed phalacrocorax
 Has such an gigantical thorax
 That when it takes flight
 It can't help but shite
 And that's why its nest smells of borax
 

The PDML's favourite fowl
Is not the bobolink or owl
It's not the tanager,
The tit or the badger.

It's the cormorant.

Alright, I admit it, the badger's not strictly a bird

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Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-18 Thread Steve Desjardins
OTOH, look how much fun we're having with this.  I think it's really an
Xmas present for the PDML.

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Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
The big announcement, eh?  I keep thinking about Captain Ahab . . .

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Re: Been away ... what was the big announcement

2008-12-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
Amen, brothers and sisters.

 Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com 12/17/2008 10:36 AM 

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 10:24 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com
wrote:

 So what was the big announcement on the 16th?

So what? was the big announcement on the 16th.



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Re: White K2000 pics

2008-12-17 Thread Steve Desjardins
We all slip up and tell the truth sometimes.

Wander. Blunder. Discover.

Blunder? Who writes this stuff for them, Canon's PR's department?

William Robb




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Re: Pentax will have some announcement this coming Tuesday December16, 2008

2008-12-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Well, I know what brand I intend to shoot with . . .

 Mark Roberts msrobert...@ysu.edu 12/16/2008 9:40 AM 

AlunFoto wrote:
 
  2008/12/16 Steve Desjardins desjard...@wlu.edu:
  Pentax Announcement:
 
  That D3 is a really nice camera but it's awfully expensive.
 
  Rifle scopes. Yesterday, not today. :-)
  http://www.pentaximaging.com/news/ 

Ah well. It was just a shot in the dark.

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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

2008-12-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Thanks.  I missed, i.e., deleted, the original email so I never saw this
page.

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Re: Pentax will have some announcement this coming Tuesday December16, 2008

2008-12-16 Thread Steve Desjardins
Pentax Announcement:

That D3 is a really nice camera but it's awfully expensive.

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Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)

2008-12-15 Thread Steve Desjardins
OK, I've looked and failed.  What are the size requirements for the
submissions?

 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com 12/14/2008 5:31 PM 

I have a burning desire to comment on this.

They have an ointment for that...

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f 

- Original Message - 
From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)


I have a burning desire to comment on this.

 Dave

 On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com
wrote:
 Now careful you don't go off half baked on this.

 J


 --- On Sat, 12/13/08, PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote:

 From: PN Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net
 Subject: Re: PDML Book information for voyeurs :)
 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net
 Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 8:17 PM
 On Dec 13, 2008, at 8:08 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

  Bob W wrote:
  Behalf Of Mark Roberts
 
  If you're curious as to who's
 participating in the PDML book project (so far), I've
 put up a dynamically-updated page showing the
 photographer's' names and the titles of their
 photos. No, you don't get to see their photos; that has
 to be a surprise ;-)
 
 
 http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/submissions.php 
 
   I'm looking forward to seeing Dario's.
 Jeanne d'Arc was hot!
 
  She had a lot at stake.

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Re: Peso Knee pads reguired

2008-12-14 Thread Steve Desjardins
Needs a motor, maybe a V twin.  I wonder how it handles at highway
speeds?

 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com 12/14/2008 3:21 PM 

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 3:10 PM, P. J. Alling
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 Knee pads, head protection, shoulder pads, fall off riding one of
those and
 you'll need it all...

Our main street is pretty soft, he';ll be OK

Dave

 David J Brooks wrote:

 From last weekend.

 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8381267 

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Re: Happy birthday AnnSan!

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
Happy Birthday!  Buy a cake and send us all a piece.  ;-)

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Re: PESO: Toasted Cycle

2008-12-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
and the bike will never be the same.  Understatement of the month
award  ;-)  Never seen anything like that.



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A break from St. Louis...

I was at a meeting in London last month, and came upon this scene
during a lunchtime walk.  The constable in the background said that this
had been a Honda sports motorcycle which spontaneously burst into flame.
 Nobody was hurt, but traffic was a mess, and the bike will never be the
same.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8363130 

(K10D, DA 16-45, ISO 400, f/5.6 @ 1/125, RAW via LR2)

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Re: Tooo funny!

2008-12-07 Thread Steve Desjardins
There's a similar vid where Hitler wants a Honda Interceptor and they
buy him a BMW.

 Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/7/2008 11:41 AM 

Thanks for this Mark. I've forwarded it to a pro Nikon friend. He has
shot Nikon since the F3 days, at least, and is now shooting the D3 (D300
back up). He told me last week he will have the D3x when available in
a year or so.

Jack


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 Michael Reichmann has a link to this on the Luminous
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 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnwf2RShNV0 
 
 
 
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Re: PESO: A Question of Bokeh

2008-12-05 Thread Steve Desjardins
I like the one next in line with the radial blurring.

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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:15 PM, John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I've been asking around about this photo, because I just can't
decide
 what to think of it:
 http://www.neovenator.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=888 

 60% of people asked say the out-of-focus area adds to the overall
photo.
 30% say it detracts.
 5% have no opinion either way.
 5% hate flower photos.

Needs a cat in there some were.

Flower is nice, but the BG needs some thing done. Bob wants his eye
balls back.:-)

Dave

Dave

 I look at the photo and love how sharp the flower is.  The
background
 bokeh seems a little harsh, but at the same time it doesn't bother
me
 that much. This was shot in 2006 with a cheapass Sigma 28-80 macro
zoom
 lens on my old *istD.

 What do you think?  I wonder if it would benefit from digitally
 softening up the bokeh.

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RE: OT: Progress never stands still - is this the next sensor design?

2008-12-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
I with you (and Shiner Bock).

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I just passed on some technology news.  Where did the beer angle come
from?
I can't see anything in the story that in any way refers to beer.

Boag's Premium for me :-)

Regards, Anthony

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 Just below Samuel Adams
 
 Joseph McAllister
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  Heineken, *probably* the best beer in the world...
 
  On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Anthony Farr
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  Cheaper, sharper, better?  Or pie in the sky?
 
 
http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/multimedia/2008/12/gallery_photodet

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  or tiny URL:
 
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  I hope that Sigma doesn't get a hold of it and do another Foveon
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RE: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
BTW, to all of our new members, this is a typical evolution of a PDML
thread.

 Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/1/2008 4:45 AM 

This would be a more accurate statement if the phrase before a
batting
collapse was deleted..

:-)



Cheers

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 It's the most runs an England side can score before a batting
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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-12-01 Thread Steve Desjardins
Needling is what I do best.

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On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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PDML
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Thanks for sewing that up for us.

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Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #1 #2

2008-11-30 Thread Steve Desjardins
Ouch.  Two very PJ style photos.  I can easily see them in newspaper or
news website, especially #1.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/29/2008 8:52 PM 


http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs1.htm 

http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs2.htm 

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Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4

2008-11-30 Thread Steve Desjardins
#3 is really good.  The slight motion blur makes clear that she's moving
on, which is a strong statement in the context of the picture.  Many
businesses of all sizes are going to be abandoned and replaced, not
fixed.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/30/2008 10:25 AM 

More...

http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs3.htm 

http://www.mapphotography.com/Paranoia/pages/signs4.htm 

I  got a bit of my self in the second, unfortunately.

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Re: PESO(s) Signs of The Times #3 #4

2008-11-30 Thread Steve Desjardins
It's Steve, but I'm honored by the comparison.  ;-)

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In a message dated 11/30/2008 8:28:06 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
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#3 is really good.  The slight motion blur  makes clear that she's
moving
on, which is a strong statement in the context  of the picture.  Many
businesses of all sizes are going to be abandoned  and replaced, not
fixed.


Thanks, Rob.

Yup, lots of smaller businesses are going under. (Or might go under.  
Probably can't tell until after Xmas.)

Marnie aka Doe  

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Re: Ben10 and Epson R-D1

2008-11-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
Of course, in 20 years that's what the cameras will look like.  (Nice
shot)

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With the special powers of Ben10 goggles, anyone can master rangefinder

photography

http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/08/08_11/08_11_googles/01.htm 

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Re: Interesting photography article on BC web site

2008-11-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
There was a thread about beautiful cameras.  To me, nothing can compare
with wooden-and-bras LF cameras.  This one was gorgeous, but I also like
the look of bellows.  On the other side, I never knew about Brunel until
I saw a special on the Science Channel.  One of those people I'd like to
meet.

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Photographer shoots the works of Isambard Kingdom Brunel with period 
camera. Cool stuff -- even worth enabling Flash in your browser ;-)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_7753000/7753202.stm 

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Re: Interesting photography article on BC web site

2008-11-29 Thread Steve Desjardins
Ah, one of those fortuitous typos. LF  TLR?

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Well, I guess you could use one for the bellows material...

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Re: Happy Thanksgiving!

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
I thought it was Xmas and three wise guys.

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Bill Owens wrote:

I see I brought out the wise guys :-)

Bill

What's Thanksgiving without wiseguys?

ann


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Geez Bill, where do you get the rolling papers, and how do you keep
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Bill Owens wrote:


Before I became somewhat physically incapacited, I always smoked
the
holiday turkeys.  Took a fair amount of time, but that smoked
flavor
was delicious.

Bill

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Happy Turkey day to all. We just finished ours. We did the high
temperature
cooking method outlined in Gourmet mag. I've done this before, so
it
wasn't
exactly and experiment.  It works. 450 degrees for about 1 1/2
hours for
a
12 pound turkey,  or until you get an internal temp of 165 degrees.
Looks
bad. Tastes great.
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Re: Black Friday Pentax deals?

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
One of my favorites.  I still use it as a slow normal zoom.

 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/27/2008 7:44 PM 

Yes but I'm all set for FF Pentax, I've still got my 20-35mm FA 4.0  
really nice as an ultra wide on film,. even better as a ~28 mm 
equivalent on APS-C and also no where near $2000 when new.  It breaks
my 
heart that it's been discontinued.

Adam Maas wrote:
 And that's a crop lens. So it would be one of the ways of saving
$2000
 dollars by running in DX crop mode. It sucks at 18mm on FF (Been
 there, done that with the Tokina on an F100, it's not anything
 approaching a solution for FF use).

 Truly good ultra-wide zooms for F mount come down to the 14-24 f2.8
 (the king of ultra-wide zoom performance on any mount right now,
beats
 every prime in its range except the 21 Distagon) at $2k CDN and the
 17-35 f2.8 AF-S which gets worse as it gets wider but is extremely
 good at 35mm. That's around $1500CDN new if you can actually find
one.

 -Adam

 On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 11:24 AM, P. J. Alling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hum, last I herd the Pentax 12-24 was pretty decent, and that
doesn't cost
 anywhere near to $2000.  The Tokina version might or might not be
SMC but it
 has a pretty good reputation.  I always considered 18mm pretty much
ultra
 wide on 35mm.

 Adam Maas wrote:
 
 On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:15 AM, John Sessoms
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

   
 From: David Savage

 
   
 Nikon's DX lenses work on the D3/D700. Admittedly at a cropped
 resolution,
 but they do work.

   
 What's the point of shelling out the bucks for a full frame DSLR,
if
 you're
 only going to be able to shoot cropped because the lenses won't
cover
 the
 full frame?

 
 So you don't have to shell out an extra $2000 right away to get a
good
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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
No, he meant 6x9.  The universe is perverse in that way, as least if you
play Scrabble. ;-)

 Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/2008 4:42 AM 

I believe he meant to say 6 x 7  i.e.: 42

Not only the answer to everything, but Pentax's chosen large medium  
format. What a tribute!

Joseph McAllister
Lots of gear, not much time

On Nov 27, 2008, at 19:31 , Brian Walters wrote:


 On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:38:01 +, Merlin Who
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Re: I'm a grandad

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
Congratulations. All the bestto your sone and daughter-in-law (and the
new arrival, of course).

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My son and his wife are the proud parents of a baby girl.
Coincidetally, it is our daughter's birthday (35) and one day short of
what would have been my mother's 90th.

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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
I saw the TV series but never heard the radio broadcast.  The series I
saw was shown on PBS and it used very primitive effects and was
delightful.

 John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/2008 7:12 PM 


Some of us listened to the original radio broadcasts,
watched the TV series, *and* read all the books.

(And have the CDs, DVDs and MP3s - I've even got an MP3
of the *real* original episode on Magrathea, complete with
the Pink Floyd reference).


On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 08:06:59PM +, Merlin Who wrote:
 Wow, somebody read all the books :)
 
 Merlin
 
 On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Steve Desjardins
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  No, he meant 6x9.  The universe is perverse in that way, as least
if you
  play Scrabble. ;-)
 
  Joseph McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/2008 4:42 AM 
 
  I believe he meant to say 6 x 7  i.e.: 42
 
  Not only the answer to everything, but Pentax's chosen large
medium
  format. What a tribute!
 
  Joseph McAllister
  Lots of gear, not much time
 
  On Nov 27, 2008, at 19:31 , Brian Walters wrote:
 
 
  On Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:38:01 +, Merlin Who
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  You mean like  6 by 9?
 
  Merlin
 
 
 
  That's 54, isn't it?  Not the same thing at all...
 
 
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Re: My New Web Page

2008-11-28 Thread Steve Desjardins
Great work.  I really like the jellyfish.  How did you do that? 
Aquarium?

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/28/2008 4:20 PM 

As stated previously, AOL got rid of its ftp  sites for members. Which
means 
I had to find a new place to put my photos.  

Since I roll my own pages and don't like advertisements, I just 
created a 
new domain. (In case you are interested, www.freehostia.com, 9.95 a 
year for 
a domain. No photo software is included, but they do have a good file 

manager.)

I didn't redo them, just buffed them up a little -- breaking my  photos
down 
into smaller groups. There are about only two I haven't shown on  list.


So most of you will have seen most of them, or all of them. Mainly  I
am 
posting this...

in case you bookmark member pages, here it  is.

http://www.mapphotography.com/ 

Marnie aka Doe  :-)

-
Warning: I am now  filtering my email, so you may be censored.  

**Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the
NEW 
AOL.com. 
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Re: Happy Thanksgiving!

2008-11-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
Hope everyone has a fine day.  I may even move a bit later.  Just enough
to get a turkey sandwich.

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G'morning all,
Because I was taught from an early age, it's impolite to type with my
mouth full, let me extend a sincere wish that your day be filled with
nature's bounty and, especially, true friends and loving family(ies).

Best,

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Re: Name that bird

2008-11-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
It's like I've intruded on an intimate moment.

 P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/2008 2:29 AM 

 http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/chinon_set.jpg 
That's quite possibly the ugliest camera and lens combinations I've
ever 
seen...

Margus wrote:
 Hi there,

 I do collect old cameras. Can't help myself (even if I would like
to...).
 Some weeks ago I got some items for my Chinon collection. Seller from

 German eBay sent me also one camera that I can not name. Manufacturer

 and model names have been brutally scratched off and painted over. 
 Just Made in Japan on both body and winder. Maybe some of you can 
 recognize it?
 http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/unknown.jpg 

 Some technical specifications:
 K-bayonet
 Cloth shutter 8s...1/1000s
 Manual shutter speeds + AUTO mode (most probably Av)
 Power switch and electronic self timer are integrated. It's 
 tthree-position switch, which is quite unusually placed at TOP panel,

 under the rewind knob.)
 DOF preview,  manual ISO setting (25...3200), exposure compensation 
 +/-2EV
 LED shutter speed indication, horizontal-split focusing screen w. 
 microprism.
 2x G13 batteries.

 If someone is interested: here's my Chinon CE-5 with Winder S and
50mm 
 AF lens:
 http://home.uninet.ee/~margus02/peso/chinon_set.jpg 

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Re: # of PDML Subscribers?

2008-11-25 Thread Steve Desjardins
Yo Pavol.

OK, let's just count off.

One.

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Re: By the way...

2008-11-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
You'll come back.  They all do . . .

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My last post was the last in which I will entertain any discussion of 

M42 lenses. Really... :-)

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Re: PESO - What More Could There Possibly Be?

2008-11-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
I know I shouldn't go there, but . . .

If you zoom in on the orb, it appears to have a cross shaped stopper,
which would make this a flask of chrism, i.e., the holy hand grenade. 
The  Infant  Jesus of Prague is the most common image of flask.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_Jesus_of_Prague 

My only defense of all this is that I'm still waiting for the coffee to
brew ,. . .

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 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/20/2008 4:13 PM 

Gotta know your religious symbolism knarF.
That globe in his hand means it's baby Jesus.
Funny, he doesn't look like any Jewish kid I know.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM, frank theriault
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 I don't know why, but I find something mildly humourous about this
one:


http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/what-more-could-there-possibly-be.html


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Re: PESO - What More Could There Possibly Be?

2008-11-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
I got that Infant Jesus statue when I made my first communion and it sat
on my dresser until I moved out of my parents' home.  No doubt that's
why I find the holy hand grenade bit so funny.

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 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/2008 9:34 AM 

Thanks Steve,
That's the icon I remember frm my youth.
The church/parish I grew up in was named Divine Infant.
Seeing Franks picture, and knowing more about the middle east now,
I was struck by how northern european those faces looked.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:18 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 I know I shouldn't go there, but . . .

 If you zoom in on the orb, it appears to have a cross shaped
stopper,
 which would make this a flask of chrism, i.e., the holy hand
grenade.
 The  Infant  Jesus of Prague is the most common image of flask.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infant_Jesus_of_Prague 

 My only defense of all this is that I'm still waiting for the coffee
to
 brew ,. . .

 Steven Desjardins
 Department of Chemistry
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 Lexington, VA 24450
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 FAX: (540) 458-8878
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 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/20/2008 4:13 PM 

 Gotta know your religious symbolism knarF.
 That globe in his hand means it's baby Jesus.
 Funny, he doesn't look like any Jewish kid I know.
 Regards,  Bob S.

 On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:02 PM, frank theriault
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know why, but I find something mildly humourous about this
 one:



http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/what-more-could-there-possibly-be.html



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Re: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?

2008-11-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
This?  

http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/madone/madone69pro/

;-)
 If I had the money, I know what I'd
be driving...

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Re: ANY M42 DSLR rumors (yet)?

2008-11-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
The pedals are missing.  (I'll have to hide these posts from Debbie. 
She's the bicycle fan)

 frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/2008 5:39 PM


On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 This?

 http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes/road/madone/madone69pro/ 

Nah, more like this:

http://www.colnago.com/pistaENG.html 

;-)

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Re: So you think you can drive?

2008-11-20 Thread Steve Desjardins
 By relaxing I went *faster* than before and within a few laps I got my
knee 
down for the first time (Shannonville Motorsports Park, Shannonville, 
Ontario - turn 3, to be precise!)

Not that this is important to you.  ;-)




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Re: PESO - Cold November Day

2008-11-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nicely done.  It looks cold.

 In a message dated 11/18/2008 6:43:04 A.M.  Pacific Standard Time,
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 http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2008/11/cold-day-in-november.html


 Comments  always welcome.  Usual caveat WRT the rendering of this  
 one -
 no  photoshop, using freeware on my work computer, yadda,  yadda,
 yadda...

 ;-)

 cheers,
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Re: PESO - Cold November Day

2008-11-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
BTW, you've posted quite a bit of good stuff lately, Frank.  I find it
interesting that your BW Street photography seems to be flourishing
with digital.We've done film vs. digital ad nauseum, but you had a
classic film style that seems to have translated well.  Is there
anything about digital that's proven to be useful for your kid of
works?

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Re: So you think you can drive?

2008-11-19 Thread Steve Desjardins
Would you consider a marathon running?  ;-)

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 Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/2008 8:12 AM 

Impressive. But personally, I don't call driving anything that
requires a car such as this and also wearing helmet and gloves at all
times during the process. It is indeed very sporty but like every
sport it belongs to the sports arena.

Boris


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http://video.kenblockracing.com/flash/small_player/preloader.swf?vendor_id=204media_id=9183bgcolor=FFautoplay=0

 Really needs sound for the most impact, but the video speaks for
itself.

 Cheers,

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Re: Opinions about DA 17-70/4 SDM wanted

2008-11-10 Thread Steve Desjardins
NYC is lovely in the fall.  ;-)

 Boris Liberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/10/2008 9:09 AM 

Paul, each time I send a lens to US of A for replacement and each time
I receive one as it passes through our border, I get to pay money.
After two or three replacement transactions, I'll be better of flying
to NYC and cherry picking the sucker over the counter.

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:01 PM, PN Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 If you buy from a reputable supplier, there is no risk. BH replaced
mine
 without question. What's more, the problem was due to assembly
mistakes in
 manufacture. I'm sure it's been resolved. (Although pixel peeping
paranoid
 users will continue to imagine problems.)
 Paul
 On Nov 9, 2008, at 11:16 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:

 Hoover like in the namesake dam?

 Seriously, you've answered my question completely, sir William. I
get to
 keep the money.

 And no, Paul, I am not in position to *risk* my money in getting
 potentially flawed by production DA* 16-50. Locally it is not even
being
 sold. I can get a DA 16-45/4 though (for $450) which I probably
will
 eventually.

 Boris

 William Robb wrote:

 - Original Message - From: Boris Liberman
 Subject: Opinions about DA 17-70/4 SDM wanted

 Hi!

 I don't recall any significant discussion of this lens. Anyone
owning
 it? Or is it the general opinion of this list, that this lens is
of
 insufficient quality? How about distortion at 17 mm?

 Does the word Hoover mean anything to you?
 Seriously, it's sharp and contrasty enough, but the barrel
distortion is
 awful.
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Re: Pentax 'ad' :)

2008-11-09 Thread Steve Desjardins
 If she were holding a gun it would be 
like something out of a suspense thriller movie.

 If she were holding a Rebel  it could be a horror movie  ;-)   It is a
very dramatic shot.  Nice work.


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Re: Professional Photography at it's Absolute Best.

2008-11-08 Thread Steve Desjardins
Just a friend of the family? 

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 William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/8/2008 7:07 PM 

So, I assisted a friend at a wedding today. He brought his wife along,
who 
is also accomplished in this field.
Officially, I was the light donkey.
Anyway, we got done what we needed the Genies for, so I had moved them

aside, and was in the process of packing up. At some point, another
wedding 
had started shooting in the location we had just vacated. I was
gathering 
equipment, when I noticed the other photographer was doing her wedding
with 
a Canon Rebel of some sort (which isn't germaine, but I like to take
cheap 
shots when I can), what looked like the starter zoom and the built in
flash 
for illumination.
Yes folks, that's right, the built in flash.
The gathering process took me into close proximity to a couple of the 
groomsmen from the other wedding. One of them asked me why we had so
much 
equipment onsite (a couple of D300s, the Genies, 2 metx handlemounts, 
several lenses, 3 people, you get the picture), when their photographer
was 
just using the camera and built in flash.

I just didn't know what to say

I probably stood there looking at him for five seconds before I
mustered 
this gem:
Im sure your pictures will be just fine.

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Re: Message to Our American Friends

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
This is very thoughtful comment.  What have you done with Bob?  ;-)

 Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/6/2008 12:42 PM 

This has been a long thread and I've resisted adding to it until now.
I hope our foreign friends are pleased with our choice of a new
President.
I don't think President Bush is as bad as his reputation, just a man
with difficult choices.
We'll see how happy we are with Obama over the next four years.
He is taking office during challenging times.

I think Collin Powel got it right when he suggested it was time for a
transformational change in leadership.
I hope Obama will give us that fresh start.
(And I selfishly hope we don't go back to traditional Democrat 'Spend
 Tax' mentality.)

Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PSE 7

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
I just never invested enough time in  PSCS3 to get comfy with it.  I
used Micrografx Picture Publisher for a long time and just switched to
PSE7.  So far I like it and it more than serves my needs.  It doesn't
offer as much control as CS3 but I'm more able to use what it does
have.

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 John Graves [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/6/2008 12:03 PM 

At the risk of being way off topic here (although it seems the norm 
right now), has any have any opinions of PSE 7 and what tools and 
features it might have that would cause me to abandon PSE3?  As I watch

the progression of versions pass me by, I have not yet seen one that 
makes it easier or quicker to process either my print scans or my 
digital prints.  I am not looking foe quick ways to post movies of
Mandy 
the dog on a new web site.  Any thoughts suggestions from the list?

Regards,

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Re: Photographer's hats

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Desjardins
Hey, I actually have this one:

http://www.villagehatshop.com/propeller_round.html

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 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/6/2008 7:35 AM 
On 6/11/08, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

This brings up the important issue of photographers' hats - one which
I don't
think has been discussed here before.

I can see Doug in one of these:

http://www.villagehatshop.com/elope_pirate_jack_hat.html

This is definitely Knarf:

http://www.villagehatshop.com/harry_potter_quidditch_goggles.html

Norm:

http://www.villagehatshop.com/condom_cap.html

Jostein of Oslo:

http://www.villagehatshop.com/viking_helmet_mask_horns.html

Cory:

http://www.villagehatshop.com/propeller_round.html

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Re: Message to Our American Friends

2008-11-04 Thread Steve Desjardins
My students were very excited about the election.  Even my cynical self
finds that hopeful.  It's the best reason to be a teacher.

 Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/4/2008 4:53 PM 
2/3rds of my class today voted for the 1st time; they said it made them
feel 
grown-up.  Sweet to hear this, and yes, Mark, very refreshing.  Cheers,

Christine


- Original Message - 
From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 It's really wonderful to work on a college campus on election day.
There's 
 so much energy and enthusiasm in the air! These kids haven't turned
into 
 cynical old farts like Scott Loveless yet! ;-)

 I've talked to several who just voted for the first time ever and
they're 
 really jazzed about it.

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Re: K30D

2008-11-03 Thread Steve Desjardins
LOL. This is one of those things that New Englanders and New Yorkers
agree on.

They are the premier professional photographic retailer in the United 

States, and possibly the world. They may be gruff on the phone but,  
hey, I grew up in New York too.

So waddaya want? Pleasantries? Dis is biz'ness.   ]:-)




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Re: OT Canon wins, Pentax and Nikon can only lose.

2008-10-27 Thread Steve Desjardins
Oh, this works on so many levels . . .


Besides, she's not a punk rocker - she's a whiny Pop-Grunge-Hip 
Hop-Alternative crossover wannabe; what Britney Spears would'a been if

she'd gone to Bryn Mawr.



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Re: GESO - USA + Norway by Stef

2008-10-26 Thread Steve Desjardins
Nice.  He has an eye.

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 Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/26/2008 5:31 AM 
Christine posting pics nicely shot by her nephew reminded me of a task
I
have been meaning to do for ages. Earlier in the year we visited
friends
in NY, and while I took time out at Grandfather Mountain, my family
spent time in NY and PA. A few months later, Norway.

My son Stefan commandeered my wife's *ist Ds and shot a card-full.
Here
is a selection of 24 pics that we have used as the basis of his
application for work experience next year with a local newspaper
photography department. I have to say that I was personally stunned
when
I saw his work. The thing that got me most? Composition - I have not
rotated or cropped any of these - they are all as shot in the camera
except for an auto-levels adjustment in PS and mild sharpening (camera
jpegs).

At 14 yrs of age, I think you'll agree he shows a photographic
maturity
that I'm still trying to achieve decades later!

http://gallery.me.com/cottycam#100020

*istDs + 18-55mm

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Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/

My daughter and her 3 roommates found this abandoned kitten 6 weeks
ago.  The mother probably left him since he was too small, and he's only
survived because four human beings has catered to his every whim.  The
vet says he is perfectly healthy but stunted.  Seeing them all in
action, this tiny creature again demonstrates that cute is a Darwinian
survival skill.

Steve

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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
Interesting.  This used to work just fine.  I wonder what changed. 
Thanks for the fix.

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Re: Peso: The Latest in Handheld Devices

2008-10-24 Thread Steve Desjardins
FYI, the new link (thanks to Charles)

http://chemistry.wlu.edu/~desjardins/francois.jpg 



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Re: potentially controversial: The NY Times on the Panasonic G1

2008-10-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
I just saw this and was going to send a post about it.  This reviewer
seems like a reasonable sort but isn't a photo-weenie like those of use
here (and I saw that with great fondest for y'all.)   His most serious
reason for not buying the camera is that next year's model will have
video capabilities.  For the vast majority of those buying cameras, this
is a perfectly good reason to wait since they would enjoy and get use
out of a camera that does both.  This is particularly funny given our
rather technical PDML discussions about the 4/3 system.

Steve


 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/23/2008 1:19 PM 
For those interested in a non-photography-world reviewer's  
impressions ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/technology/personaltech/23pogue.html?_r=28dpcoref=sloginoref=slogin

 
or
http://tinyurl.com/6rcj49 

enjoy
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Re: potentially controversial: The NY Times on the Panasonic G1

2008-10-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
He does say As a result, the new G! occupies 29 cubic inches , in
contrast to the 64 cubic inches for the Nikon (D90);  it weighs 8 oz vs.
22.  He also says it's bigger and heavier than the Olympus 420.  The
420 weighs 13.4 oz (so I suspect he meant to write 18 oz. for the G1)
and is 38.6 cubic inches, assuming he just multiplied out the dimensions
(5.1x3.6x2.1).  So I'm confused as well.

 Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/23/2008 2:51 PM 
On Oct 23, 2008, at 13:43, Steve Desjardins wrote:
His most serious
 reason for not buying the camera is that next year's model will have
 video capabilities.

...and that it's heavier and not really any smaller than the smallest 

DSLR (Olympus 420).  Or did I read that incorrectly?

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Re: Yee Ha!!!

2008-10-23 Thread Steve Desjardins
Christine, you really need to work up some excitement over your work. 
We are enthusiasts, after all.  Steve

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 Christine  Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/23/2008 10:10 PM

Just printed out my first 13 x 19 BW on Ultra Premium Matte.  Yee
Ha!!! 
If I do say so myself, it looks so cool.  This printing is so much fun.

Here's the photo:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8080119size=lg 

For the past couple of months, I've been photographing the construction
that 
is taking place at my work.  We're getting a 6-7 story indoor parking 
building and a beautiful new student services building.   The
architectural 
renderings are now on exhibit in the lobby of our main campus building
 
about 15 of my BWs will also be on exhibit as soon as the framing is
done. 
During the next 18 months, we'll be rotating photos that tell the story
and 
progression of the construction.

I have full access to the construction site and  have my own hard hat,
which 
I must obviously wear.  I had to read a safety manual  have to follow
the 
safety rules.  When I can shoot, I call down, and a young (and usually
cute 
:-)) assistant foreman lets me on site, then escorts me around.  He
usually 
says things like, Christine, watch out for that boulder ahead of you,

(like when I'm walking  have my nose behind the camera) or I have him

explain to me what it is I'm seeing, since I know absolutely nothing
about 
construction, though I am learning, and it's very interesting.  I've
always 
admired what man can build.

I'm using the K20D with the DA 16-45mm.  Since the DA is F4, I put it
on the 
K20, since that camera has really good High ISO quality if I need it. 
The 
DA* 50-135mm is on the K10D, but today, when I shot the crusher
grinding up 
huge boulders, I put the DA* on the K20D.  I didn't feel like doing any
wide 
angle shots.  Anyway, I just felt like letting a Yee Ha loose :-). 
Thanks 
for listening, if you, in fact, did ;-).

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Re: Full Frame: what is it?

2008-10-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
The only real issue (in my mind) is the availability of wide angle
lenses.  It's easier to get wide angles for the FX format (Nikonese, I
believe) especially since so many exist in the used market.  Other than
that, I'm happy with a smaller camera and the DX format.



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Re: Full Frame: what is it?

2008-10-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
Oh, I'm not saying you can't do it.  It's just that many folks have a
number of wide angles that are no longer as useful in the DX format.  I
don't, so I'm happy with the smaller format.

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 Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/21/2008 9:51 AM 
Olympus has a lovely 7-14mm lens in 4/3 System which nets 115 diagonal 

degrees,rectilinear. There's only one lens I know of for so-called  
full frame that provides a wider rectilinear FoV.

Godfrey - www.gdgphoto.com 

On Oct 21, 2008, at 4:50 AM, Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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 The only real issue (in my mind) is the availability of wide angle
 lenses.  It's easier to get wide angles for the FX format (Nikonese,
I
 believe) especially since so many exist in the used market.  Other  
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Re: Full Frame: what is it?

2008-10-21 Thread Steve Desjardins
I prefer the Intel approach, 4/3 II.

This thread is such a delightful mix of semantics, optics, and sarcasm.
 Reminds me of why I subscribe to the PDML.  

 Dario Bonazza [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/21/2008 3:23 PM 
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

 On Oct 21, 2008, at 7:02 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
 
 I wouldn't be surprised to see larger sensor 4/3 cameras appear  
 after the micro 4/3 gets established.
 
 If it is a larger sensor, it isn't 4/3 System. By definition.

That's great news. We'll call it the Super 4/3.
The Olympus MktDept.

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RE: Sony full frame A900, where's Pentax?

2008-10-20 Thread Steve Desjardins
Clearly Olympus has decided not to play the FF game either.  As for
Sony, remember that they are essentially Konica -Minolta with a lot more
money.  

I really don't known how a pro level camera would help Pentax's
reputation.  It's not like we'd start to see a bunch of Pentax lenses at
sporting events.  Wedding guys would be the best adverting.  What format
do the wedding guys want?

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Re: OT: Black Silicone Could Change Digital Photography Forever

2008-10-13 Thread Steve Desjardins
Sounds very promising.  Solar cells would be more important, but ISO
12800 with little noise would be nice too.

 John Celio [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/13/2008 11:54 AM 
http://gizmodo.com/5062412/black-silicon-discovery-could-change-digital-photography-night-vision-forever

or: http://tinyurl.com/47m7wt 

Certainly sounds intriguing!

John

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Re: email woes -- list and non list related

2008-10-08 Thread Steve Desjardins
I can get this, but the letters are faint.  Try typing in Bold.

Steven Desjardins
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 ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/8/2008 10:40 AM 
ok, I find it very difficult to believe none of you sent anything to
the 
list in the last say 10 hours
but nothing came into my PDML folder or any other folder of mine

Yesterday I was getting duplicate emails of everything... called my 
server (road runner)
they said there was a glitch and they were working on it...

They had me disable the mail scan in PC-Cillin  -
The glitch I gather was of the lets flood mailboxes variety but  I 
didn't see any system announcements

I just sent myself an email that I got.. but nothing else...

anyone else having problems ?

anyone reading this?

ann




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Re: The old Jewish quarter of Fez

2008-10-08 Thread Steve Desjardins
The color balance looks really good to me.  Nice shots, too.

 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/8/2008 2:53 PM 
Here are some photos I took wandering around the Mellah last week:
http://www.web-options.com/Mellah/ 

I'm particularly interested to hear your views about the colour
balance in these shots. The colour is what attracted me to the scene,
but in the unprocessed raw state it appears to have a very strong
colour cast - possibly I had the white balance wrong on the camera. I
have used LR to set them to a more neutral colour, but in doing so I'm
worried I may have lost some of the original impact. I can't trust my
own colour vision or memory.

Bob


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RE: AF why

2008-10-05 Thread Steve Desjardins
Wouldn't that be great?  Wistful Steve

 Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/5/2008 4:06 PM 
It's the Air Force button. It calls in an airstrike on the thing
you've focused on. Be careful.

Bob 

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 Subject: AF why
 
 It dawned on me that of all the buttons on the back of the K20, the
 one I've never ever hit is AF.  Its effect seems identical to
 squeezing the shutter a bit.  So I went and looked around in the
 manual; it entirely escapes me why this button exists and what you'd
 use it for.  So obviously I'm missing something... -T
 
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Re: What's the best way to go about this shoot

2008-10-02 Thread Steve Desjardins
And wear good boots.  (I'd put a smiley, but I mean it.)

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