Re: FILM DEAD ?
Dropped by a local photo store last weekend and saw people flocking at the new Leicas, 23 hundred a piece on sale at 10% off. Judging by the enthusiam at such shameful prices, it's hard to believe film is dead. Tonghang.
Re: pz-1 viewfinder quiry
My PZ-1p does not have this problem, not at all, as far as I can tell. I compare it with many cameras and I think it's among the best in Pentax, certainly better than any of the more recent designs. I wonder if your sample had its finder glass repaired or replaced in the past? Tonghang. On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suggest, however, that there is no one-size- fits-all rule or experience for using cameras while wearing glasses, since the style and technical specs (ha!) of glasses varies so widely. Perhaps your eyecare advisor might have a suggestion for you as to how to deal with the problem with seeing the viewfinder properly? Maybe,but my other AF cameras that i have do not behave in this drastic way.Very,very slight distortion when moving my head or eye,hardly noticed at all.Finder info is still visible and plain to see,were as this PZ-1 only requires an extremely minute move and the finder is blurry and i cannot see the finder info(its goes blurry to) Just checked it with out glasses,only a small movement and heavy distortion. Is this something a repair shop mioght be able to do something withj,or is it pretty much one sealed unit. Dave
FS: lots pentax stuff
I'm adding to the list of stuff for sale I put out a few days ago, Feel free to bundle. Shipping is $6 to USA, other places at cost. 1. AF280T TTL flash. With manual, soft case. Excellent condition. Swivel/bounce head, many modes. All that sophisticated stuff. $70 or offer. 2. SMC-M 28/3.5. One of the best Pentax lenses. Excellent condition. Caps and filter. $65 or offer. 3. SMC 50/1.4 (52mm filter ring) Bigger class, more impressive. The guy I got it from sometime ago said it was sharper than his expensive Contax T* lens (?!). Anyways, Caps and filter included, $65 of offer. (I already have pending interest on this one since the last post, but no commitment yet, so I'm lowering the price.) 4. ZX-M body with Grip FG (has possible defect.) I paid about $30 plus tax for the FG alone. I want to sell the combo for $40 or offer. The camera is in perfect condition, except I observed one or two frames slightly overlapping in some of the rolls I took with this camera (Is this related to battery strength, anyone knows?) Anyways, I got plenty bodies already. Comes with cap, manual. 5. ME-Super body (needs CLA) The body is hardly used which is very evident when you see it. Still has the plastic stuff on bottom. I've been happily using it. Very smooth. But a week or two ago, some oil appeared on the shutter blades out of nowhere. Needs a CLA to recover. Going for $25, with cap, manual. 6. AF160 Autoflash Guide number 16 meters. 2 Auto modes, one manual mode. I have two of these. Very small and useful at the same time. You can use it with non-Pentax (oops, excuse me) and non-35mm gear, auto modes work fine. $12 each. 7. Cable releases. I have several cable releases, all metal with stopper screws. $4 each. 8. Also I'm thinking about selling my flagship PZ-1p with several still shrink-wrapped batteries for it (6 I think.) Lots of features, all real no hype and designed for use. Excellent condition. Has manual and cap of course. Don't know what to ask for it. Ideas? I also have some tripods to give away, but only if you are local. And just so y'all don't get the wrong idea, I'm not dumping my Pentax. Just trying to streamline in order to use existing (Pentax) equipment more. Thanks for looking, Tonghang.
Re: My *istD cost just went up!
I see the politics of budget negotiation at work here. With so much training you're getting, you can be the next governor of California :-) Tonghang. On Wed, 29 Oct 2003, Rob Brigham wrote: Not only did I have to bribe the household treasury officer with the same value transferred to her private shopping account. AND promise the same amount in the home improvements budget. Now I am also going to have to buy her a digital camera of her own, ...
FS: Pentax SMC lenses, etc.
SMC-M 28/3.5 This is regarded as one of the best pentax lenses, possibly the best 28mm. Condition is excellent, flawless in every way. Perfect class, no dust inside either. Comes with both caps and Hoya UV filter. SMC 50/1.4 (52mm filter ring) This is the K version, not the M version. So it has a larger filter ring. Bigger glass. Very sharp. Condition is similarly excellent, perfect glass no dust. Comes with both caps and a coated sky filter (Vermer.) SMC-A 70-210/4.0 This is the best long zoom by Pentax I believe. One touch design. Light weight. Good contrast. Has one light mark (cleaning mark, as they say) on front element. You hardly see. Shouldn't be problem (hasn't been for me.) Otherwise similarly excellent, no dust. Comes with both caps, and sky filter (of some make.) Price is $75 for each. Make offer if this is too high. Shipping is $6 to US. Other place at cost. Also, my hardly used ME-Super developed some oil on the shutter and now needs CLA (what a shame!) Any one can use it for $25? I also have a ZX-M with battery grip (for using 4-AA batteries) which is working fine but has given me an overlapping frame once a few rolls, how about $40? BTW, I'm not giving up on Pentax, just lightening up. Thanks for looking. Tonghang.
pictures: Re: FS: black MX
See these pics: http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-1.jpg http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-2.jpg http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-3.jpg http://www.cicely.com/trade/black-mx-4.jpg Thanks, Tonghang. On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Tonghang Zhou wrote: Any one wants an MX in cool black? It needs an CLA though: meter lights up but shows wrong value, mirror sticks upwards at low speeds. Has very light brassing along edges, no dents. Some marks on bottom plate. All caps are intact. The whole camera is black except the letterings. Very cool looking. With mechanical cameras 10 years or older you probably want an CLA (cleaning) anyways. but once done, it will be very nice I'm sure. $85? If this is too high, make offer please. Shipping cost depends on where you are. Paypal, money order or check. Let me know. I have some pics too if you want to see. Tonghang.
FS: Winder ME II
Flawless condition functionally and cosmetically. Look like new. No marks any where. Clean inside out. I'm giving up my ME-super, so don't need the winder any more. The winder works with ME, ME-super and SuperProgram and Super-A, except the latter ones also have their own dedicated winder. I don't know where I left the manual for it, can't seem to find it. Ask $35 or offer, let me know. Tonghang.
eBay creativeness: soft focus lens
How to put a good spin on a worthless lens: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2944883056category=4688
Re: eBay Dilema
I wouldn't be so categorical about this. It's very common in my experience, especially with eBay bulk sellers, that they don't inspect or have the knowledge to examine the items they sell properly. Compromising a settlement is perfectly acceptable to me. I once bought a winder which had its auto shutoff circuit bad, leading to draining batteries. It's something you wouldn't figure out by quick examination. I asked the seller to either take it back or refund 50%. He chose latter, because he realized that if he relisted it, he would have to state the defect and may get even less. That was the option I was hoping for also, since I did like the winder. In the end though, after a few sets drained batteries, I figure I were not able to remember to turn it off all the time even though I tried, so I sold it as a defective winder. I think it's generally a wrong approach to presume the other party is a con because it smells like it. Rather, you consider what's best for yourself, whether to take it back and risk finding the indicated problem or to give a refund. Whether the other party is a con or not is really irrelevent, because you are the one making the decision, not him, and you do so on your own behalf. Tonghang. On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Mark Roberts wrote: Anton Browne wrote: I recently sold a lens on eBay, when the buyer received it he said there was a tiny bit of fungus on the front element which could only be seen at the right angle and that if he sold the lens he wouldn't get what he paid for it (a strange thing to say in my opinion). I checked had the lens thoroughly when I first bought it and before listing it on eBay and didn't notice anything at all... it is possible I missed it of course. I immediately offered a full refund including postage costs for the return of the lens. I got a reply saying that he'd taken the lens to a camera shop and they said it wasn't fungus but a slight parting of the elements and that it wouldn't affect pictures. The buyer then said if he sold it he would still get less that the bid price, clearly indicating that he wanted me to give him a rebate of £20 or so. This, unfortunately, is becoming more common on eBay: Pay more than you really want to for something, then discover problems with it and complain to the seller, demanding a partial refund. These people count on the fact that many sellers will give a partial refund rather than risk negative feedback. It's an effective way of winning an auction and then paying less than you bid. I've had this happen in the past with items I *knew* were in perfect condition. I offer a full refund or nothing at all. In every case the complainer was never heard from again. Wait until the very end on the 90-day window before giving feedback. Just to be safe. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
Re: Zooms vs. primes: the final word and ultimate wisdom
PDML is where people discover and share their personal experience in these trade-offs. I think this is welcome as long as it doesn't become a 'debate'. Tonghang. On Mon, 14 Jul 2003, Fred wrote: It's very simple. Everything in photography is a trade-off. Everything: [snip] The debate is a non-issue. Then we don't need the PDML ???
Re: fireworks photos
What film, speed, exposure, focal length...? more data please. Tonghang. On Thu, 10 Jul 2003, Amita Guha wrote: I just posted the photos I took of the fireworks last Friday. Some of them came out pretty decent IMHO. :) http://www.beyondthepath.com/photos/july_4_03/index.html BR, thanks for the exposure advice you gave me. It was spot-on. :) Amita
translation, Re: WOOHOOO!!!!
The BMW dealership should've hired a more ept ad writer I think, but here's what I can manage: The top 10 characters in big fonts: Should (we) go out for a dragon dance tour, or should (we) fire up the firecrackers? The smaller font below the photo of the dealer's building: (In bold) Parkview BMW, the newest BMW dealer in the mid section of Toronto, has now opened. (not bold) We have brand new show room, showing every style all brand and second hand BMW cars, on huge lot. (It is) one of the largest BMW show rooms in the country. We are dedicated, to serve you and make you happy beyond expectations, in the purchase and maintaince (of BMW cars.) The small font under the portraits: name New car consultant Mobile number There you go. Congratualtions. Tonghang. On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, Brendan wrote: I did a job for a BMW dealership, the first add is running this weekend in the Ming Pao ( I'm sure Dave knows it ) Daily, to be followed by other papers and magazines soo. http://www.torphoto.net/images/ParkviewBMWAd.jpg can anyone translate that for me, it's the mock up the add company sent to me.
Re: OT: Barebones Darkroom
This is exactly what I'm thinking of doing too. BW has the advantage that you can use very fast film and do the pushing yourself. BW negatives are also easier to discern than color negatives IMHO. I read some BW books lately, it seems quite easy to do just the processing part. Color film, on the other hand, would be a lot more trouble and not much fun to process due to lack of variation and strict temperature requirement (not to mention added cost due to the short life the developers.) I'm planning to do this (BW processing) when I can get some vacation. If you get to do it first, I'd be interested in learning your experience. Tonghang. On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Christopher Comer wrote: Hey everyone, I ordered a film scanner on the cheap and I would like to put together a pseudo darkroom. I'd like to be able to develop bw film and then scan the neg. into the computer for manipulation. I think all I need is a developing tank and [snip]
FS: Pentax 1.4X-s converter
Pentax 1.4X-S converter for sale. Like new condition with caps and leather case. 5 elements in 4 groups. Very good optical performance. Here's a picture: http://www.cicely.com/trade/a14x-s.jpg For info, see Bojidar's excellent page: http://kmp.bdimitrov.de/teleconverters/A1.4X-S.html BH currently sells this item for $220 without the leather case: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bh6.sph/FrameWork.class?FNC=ProductActivator__Aproductlist_html___40609___PE1.4XS___USA___CatID=0___SID=F5C4AF824D0 I'd like to get $125 plus shipping ($5 in US.) Let me know, thanks. Tonghang.
Re: The Optio S - - in my hot little hands.
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: It arrived from one of his stores the night before last. Yes, we know it I haven't seen any discussion about these points: what I'd be most interested in knowing about is whether the camera has shutter lag like the others and whether the focus is locked when the shutter is pressed half-way down. I think most ps cameras take some time, after you press the shutter, to extend the lens and take the picture. This is a problem for me. Tonghang.
How are these Tokina lenses?
Any one had experience with these two lenses? 1. 24-40 F2.8 TOKINA AT-X A (72) 2. 28-70 F2.8 TOKINA ATX AUTO FOCUS (72) How good are these compared to Pentax lenses's optics or build? The speed of 2.8 is quite appealing. Thanks, Tonghang
Re: OT: Leica M4-P for $110...
I assume the seller might get to pay a lower eBay commission, that for $110, rather than a whole lot more for a price over a thousand, say. But then I suppose the seller also run the risk that the seller might not follow through, of come back to demand the $110 price. I have in the past made early offers to sellers. But it seems that the sellers then assume that they would get at least what you offer if the auction lasted -- you would bid your offer in the end. So it never worked out. On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Mike Nosal wrote: Note that the auction was closed early. eBay rules allow a seller to do this if and only if they then sell the goods to the current high bidder at the time. They do not have to sell the item at the current bid price when they close the auction. I would imagine that the high bidder made the seller a reasonable offer, and the seller decided they didn't want to wait for the auction to end, only to discover there wasn't enough bidding to drive the price up to the level the buyer offered. --Mike
Make contact prints without enlarger?
I've never done any printing myself, but I was reading about making contact prints from negatives, and it would seem unnecessary to use an enlarger for this purpose. It seems you'll just need a contact frame and a way to shine light onto it. Of course I don't know how you'd control the exposure time. Anyone like to explain this process? Tonghang.
great bw photos: RE: On Topic or Seeking some advise
On Wed, 5 Mar 2003, zoomshot wrote: An interesting set of photos; http://www.magnumphotos.com/c/htm/FramerT.aspx?V=CDocTE=2K7O3RNC780Page=1Total=70DT=ALBPass= Ziggy These photos are enormously good. BW are so impressive and aesthetic and gives this feeling of another place, another time and another people. If it weren't for the complicated chemical process ... Tonghang.
FS: ZX-M and battery grip
For sale: [Shipping is $6 in US. Else where have to look up.] 1. Battery grip for ZX- and ZM- series cameras. It lets you use AA-batteries and gives you excellent camera handling, especially with big lenses. Like new. $20 + shipping. 2. ZX-M, with manual. Like new condition except the following: . The logo PENTAX is cleanly removed from the camera top. I bought this as part of a kit from some guy who wouldn't explain why he did this. . In the 10 rolls or so of chromes I took since I got the camera, I found a few rolls had 2 or 3 exposures having overlapping frames. This is the only problem. Your offer + shipping. Tonghang.
Re: My First Spotmatic
On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Gregory L. Hansen wrote: I finally gave in to the legend of the screw mount, I bought a Spotmatic II on eBay, BIN for $95. I don't know how close to a good deal that was, but it was the lowest BIN I remembered seeing and wasn't too far away from the $70 figure I saw in another auction. I figured the certainty in avoiding a bidding war and the instant gratification were worth it. Probably worth it. But I've been trying to sell an SP plus two good lenses on this list for just $75. Still no takers. Tonghang.
RE: Official Picture of *ist's 16 segment metering pattern
On Thu, 20 Feb 2003, tom wrote: I really don't see the point of matrix metering with all these segments. All it does, from what i know, is to pick you one overall EV value that the average other photo shooters use for a scence that averages to similar lighting distribution. Is this why one enjoys photography in the first place? 1 - I think the algorithms are more complex than that. 2 - I don't do photography because I like to spend time metering. Per 2. I believe deciding what to meter for is a big part of photography's creativity. Ansel Adams describes photography to be three parts: Camera (How equipments work), Negative (How and what to meter in a scence), Print (Darkroom stuff.) If one if doesn't do Negative, nor Print, does it not make one an equipment collector (doing Camera only)? I guess I'm leaving out two things though: composition and capturing the moment. Perhaps you concentrate on these more. Cheers, Tonghang.
Re: OT: Finally, a real bargain
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Collin Brendemuehl wrote: The Super Program works fine with a new battery. Just needs the lens mount replaced. And even so, it's not harmful the way it is. The A135/2.8 needs 3 screws tightened. It would seem that the bargain as it turned out was mostly a lot of good luck (congratulations!): just need new batteries and tighten screws. Most people must've been scared away by the original description, judging by the low bids. I once bid on a pentax 135/2.5 where the photo was that of the SMC K135/2.5 but turned out to be a Tukumar non-SMC made in Taiwan. The guy said in the description he didn't remember which one it was and wished bidders luck if it turned out to be a SMC. I bit (about $70.) Turned out unlucky. Tonghang.
FS: SMC-A 35-105/3.5
OK, here's the famed pentax zoom. Constant aperture thru the zoom range. Excellent condition. Optically and mechanically perfect. Blades clean. Comes with front pentax cap (67mm) and generic rear cap. Since I sold one like this a year or two ago on ebay for $170. I'd like to ask for $150 this time. Shipping is $5 to USA. Elsewhere actual. If you don't like the price, please name your own. I also have some 67mm filters (uv, soft-focus, cir. polarizer). If you are also interested in these, please make offer. I'm in California. Thanks, Tonghang.
Re: New Thread - Air Travel and film
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003, William Robb wrote: If you are taking 120 film only, it might be an idea to put as many rolls as you can into a photo vest and wear them onto the plane. William Robb I understand there are 3 ways to undergo the detection: A) checked-in luggage, B) X-ray machine at the gate for carry-on bags, C) the beeping door that you go thru. From what I'm hearing you guys are saying, A) and B) are ruinous to film. How about C)? You seems to be saying C) is safe? I once took my camera with film in it to a theme park, where all the customers must go thru security check just like at airports. I asked the uniformed guard at the gate to please hand inspect my camera. He just pointed at the x-ray door with his baton and told me to go thru that. I repeated my request to him several times, he just commanded me to go thru that door, getting louder each time, as if he was totally deaf to what I was saying. I actually felt that he was going to arrest me or something. I guess to these people, every one is presumed to be a terrorist. I got a taste of what's like to live in an iron curtain police state. Personally I don't think these security checks can prevent anything. It's just a harrassment for everyone. Even worse is that these guards seem to enjoy their new found status very much. This is not right. Tonghang.
Re: 5n Bummer?
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, gfen wrote: On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Foto Syb wrote: So, anyways.. now you know why I think the -5n is a bummer, you also know that if _I_ ran Pentax, the whole thing would be coming out in a different way. Giving us cameras that don't have to keep up with Nikon and Canon, that don't have to match feature-for-feature, pixels and frame rates... cameras that stand out on what they are (or, would be): Technical, engineering, design..all unique, all Pentax. Woo... that was ranty. Even I'm not taking myself serious anymore. I'm sure Pentax, as just about any company, makes product decisions based on market research, on what the average Joe out there buys. You see the Canon Rebel is the #1 selling camera. No doubt that's the type of camera that has the main market volume. The latest Pentax bodies and lenses, such as the ZX-7 equipped with the inexpensive 28-80 zoom, appear to me to be attempts to align with that. I don't know much about DVD players, so when I go to Fry's to buy one, how do I decide which one to buy? The features cards on the demo models, the prices and the brand names. What better do I know? I'm sure the DVD manufacterers have they eyes on people like me. I think this is how the Canon Rebel is positioned, and is a great commercial success. Very unfortunate of course. Tonghang.
Re: Alright, Who got it?
MX+Winder+lens guaranteed working, for $50! What luck. On Wed, 15 Jan 2003, Steve Pearson wrote: I walked away from my computer to take a d**p, and this happens: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3001312384category=15240 Hopefully, someone here took advantage __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
Where to by 2CR5 batteries?
They are the batteries used in a number of Pentax cameras (the PZ series.) I just wonder where folks here buy them from that have good prices. Thanks. Tonghang.
Re: Where to by 2CR5 batteries?
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Shaun Canning wrote: e-bay They are the batteries used in a number of Pentax cameras (the PZ series.) I just wonder where folks here buy them from that have good prices. Thanks. I think you are refering to the (eBay) seller wwwebcbattery. Unfortunately this person has 34 negative and 49 neutral feedbacks. Adding another negative does nothing to it. This is a concern. Tonghang.
Re: Batteries in general
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Simon King wrote: Since we're on the subject. My MZ-6/ZX-L uses CR-2's, and it's eaten through two sets since I bought it less than a year ago. I use this body for about half of my photographs, and Only 2 sets of batteries in a year? You don't shoot much :-) My opinion is that you soon exceed the cost of the camera in those CR2 batteries. The $25 AA grips pay for themselves. Not only that, A set of AAs seem to run forever. Tonghang. When I bought it I didn't think it worth the money for the AA battery pack Fg. Well, I've ordered a the battery pack now. With the cost of replacing the 2 CR2's here in Perth (AU$28) I figure it should pay for itself in about 18
Re: MZ-M owners/users opinions?
On Wed, 1 Jan 2003, wendy beard wrote: etc. bodies? Yuk? I had an MZ-M for about two weeks. Ran a couple of films through it and couldn't think of any reason to keep it when I had a couple of perfectly good MXes at home. It was so light, I had to weight it down with an A35-105 before it felt like a real camera. You MUST get the AA battery grip. It makes a world of difference. I have the grip for both the ZX-5n and ZX-M. They feel absolutely great. In fact I'd go so far as to say that one is not entitled to an opinion about these cameras until after one tries them with the battery grip. Tonghang. I bought it second hand and the numbers had started to wear off the shutter speed dial. I wasn't terribly impressed with it. You need an LX, you do ;-)
How good is Minolta Dimage Scan Elite F-2900?
Does any one have experience with this? Thanx, Tonghang.
Spotmatic and lenses for sale
For sale. Prices subject to best offer. Spotmatic $25 Everything Works fine (except unknown meter, see below.) But I'd do CLA: The foam padding has dried away, mirror has a few spots and battery door does not open. Cosmetically really good. With original pentax leather ever-ready case. Super Tukumar 135/3.5 $25 Perfect condition, glass and barrel. Works great. Comes in case and with filter (I think). Super Tukumar 35/3.5$25 Perfect condition, glass and barrel. Works great. Comes with filter, but don't know if there's case. I also have a 50/1.4 (I think it's super multi coated) which has yellowed glass. Best for blackwhite photography (builtin light yellow filter for higher contrast without density loss :-). Let me know if you are interested. I ship from California. Tonghang.
Re: Asahi 1/21 Spotmeter...
As to a slip-on cap, what I've done for one of my odd size lenses for an odd camera was an old camcorder cap, about the size of the target lens, and I padded it inside with adhesive tape to make it fit. So any thing just big enough, you can probably make it work. I used to have binocular lens caps. I'd imagine they are about the right size. Visit a pawn shop. The one near me has a whole basket of miscellaneous caps for all sort of things, mostly camera related I think, perhaps droppings from the junk they took in, and they let them go for pennies. Tonghang. On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Timothy Sherburne wrote: Hello all... I've picked up an Asahi 1/21 spotmeter from a fellow list member, and I've got two questions about it that I hope the group can answer: 1) Is the lens hood diameter 46mm? I'd like to pick up a slip-on cap for it, and 46mm looks to be close. 2) What does the little orange triangle on the shutter speed scale for? It's 1/3 stop to the left of the 1/60th second mark. I've figured out the other features and it works great! Thanks, Tim
Pentax equipment forsale
Flat shipping cost is $5 to US destinations. Other places whatever it costs. SMC K 200/4.0 + caps + original hardcase. -- $85 In LIKE NEW condition in all aspects. LX + FA-1 + Grip-B + strap + cap. -- $325 Perfect functional condition. Slight ding on top of finder. Some scuffles on bottom plate. Looks quite nice. The mirror support was gluey so I put a bit of rubber there. Focus is accurate. Lining and foam in perfect condition. Mirrow clean. Meter and times all good. Everything works good and smooth. I've been using it less and less lately. But it's the most lovely camera there is anywhere, especially with the Grip-B. Big and bright viewfinder. The speeds above 1/75 can work without battery. The strap can hang the camera vertically so your trigger hand doesn't grasp a bundle of strap like on other cameras. AF 160 flash-- $10 Small pentax flash, guide# is 16 meters (48 feet.) Two auto modes, one manual modes. Works well on any camera. Looks good. Pentax 1/21 degree Spotmeter-- $65 Meter spot 1-degree, field view 21-degrees. Slight ding on hood. No effect. Otherwise looks great. Works perfectly. Uses 1 common 9v for very low-lighting condition, and one mercury for other lighting condition. A new (unopened) mercury battery is included, which will last you a long time. I bought the battery for $8 from a website. Sometimes I use a hearing-aid battery, which is workable too. Thanks for looking. Tonghang.
Re: The Proof of...
The camera used is 'Zenit E' and medium (film) is 'Svema 65'. Some one can tell me what these are? The photos don't look too snappy to me. But subject matters are good. Here's folder of similar photos: http://www.photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=56 Regards, Tonghang On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's the photographer, not the gear he uses... http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=922862 Regards Albano - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
His galleries: Re: Galen Rowell by Arthur Morris
See Galen Rowell's photo galleries here: http://www.mountainlight.com/stockdept/stockportfolio.html http://www.mountainlight.com/gallery.html Great photos. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/12/2002 11:55:21 AM US Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: AUGUST 12, 2002 Sadly, I received this note from a friend in San Diego this morning: We have been informed that Galen and Barbara Rowell were killed in a plane crash on the approach to the Bishop Airport on their return from Alaska. Two others were also on the plane. No survivors. Newcomers may not know that Galen was one of the premier adventure/scenic/nature photographers of our age. Galen's signature image was Rainbow over Potola (the former winter residence of the Dalai Lama). I think that he got his greatest pleasure from combining his love of mountain climbing with his love of photography. Barbara, too, was an excellent photographer and contributed images to their stock collection. They are survived by a son and a daughter. I send my condolences and a hug to family and friends. To learn more about Galen and Barbara, visit: http://www.mountainlight.com/home.html While I knew Galen only a bit, and never met Barbara, I was saddened to learn of their passing. I do know that both of them-as we all need to do--lived life pretty much to the fullest. Galen's article The Size of the Rat, which ran in OP (Outdoor Photographer) many years ago, served to inspire me to succeed in photography. He spoke of the rat gnawing at the photographer's belly to succeed. I am glad that I got to tell him that he had influenced me (and that I had a very large rat in my belly..) (See my comments on page 145 of The Art of Bird Photography.) My favorite Galen story goes something like this: He saw a print of an image just like one that he had envisioned and was working on. He was ready to sue the photographer, when he learned that his wife--totally unaware that Galen had been photographing the same landscape subject--had made the image while they were on a joint vacation. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rly-xj03.mx.aol.com (rly-xj03.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.40]) by air-xj02.mail.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINXJ22-0812125521; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:55:21 2000 Received: from lax-gate3.raytheon.com (lax-gate3.raytheon.com [199.46.200.232]) by rly-xj03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXJ35-0812125451; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 12:54:51 -0400 Received: from ds02w00.directory.ray.com (ds02w00.directory.ray.com [147.25.146.118]) by lax-gate3.raytheon.com (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g7CGsnrr006550; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ds02w00.directory.ray.com (root@localhost) by ds02w00.directory.ray.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g7CGsern018402; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:54:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from maila.indy.navy.mil ([147.159.5.201]) by ds02w00.directory.ray.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g7CGscPL018392; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by maila.indy.navy.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id PRVQ3N0S; Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:54:35 -0500 Message-ID: EF4C77D78AD5D21198E90008C75DECDB04A1808F@EMAIL4 From: McDermott, Paul J [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'wendy' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: BIRDS AS ART NOTES AUG 12, 2002 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:54:08 -0500 Importance: low X-Priority: 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 0.98e X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain FYI. -- From: Arthur Morris/BIRDS AS ART [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 11:38:31 -0400 To: baa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BIRDS AS ART NOTES AUG 12, 2002 BIRDS AS ART NOTES AUGUST 12, 2002 Sadly, I received this note from a friend in San Diego this morning: We have been informed that Galen and Barbara Rowell were killed in a plane crash on the approach to the Bishop Airport on their return from Alaska. Two others were also on the plane. No survivors. Newcomers may not know that Galen was one of the premier adventure/scenic/nature photographers of our age. Galen's signature image was Rainbow over Potola (the former winter residence of the Dalai Lama). I think that he got his greatest pleasure from combining his love of mountain climbing with his love of photography. Barbara, too, was an excellent photographer and contributed images to their stock collection. They are survived by a son and a daughter. I send my
Re: OT:Saturday Smile
On Sat, 10 Aug 2002, David Brooks wrote: I told her i have had scratched film before but have never 'erased pictures'.I drove over to the 1 hour place in town i used and told the story to them(both are serious ameutur/semi pro photo people)and they looked at me like i had 2 heads. They seem to think they proccessed it wrong and are duping a newbie,my thinking exactly. Comments?/ Dave The store admitting that they did something wrong is rather unusual. In my experience, the store would say your sister must've given them an unexposed roll. As to the scratch, it couldn't be their fault either, because your sister must've run it thru a bad camera without exposing it. There are tons of ways to make the customer feel stupid, why should they accept any blame? Two years ago, I had 2 negatives reprinted for 8x12 at Costco. The prints are OK, but both negs were badly bent thru the middle. What's most amazing is the notes that came back with each negative, both had this item checked on them, saying the negatives were damaged BY CUSTOMER! Did it help to tell them I brought in good negatives? Did it help to say their technicians were clearly lying? Did it help to say I know enough about photography to know the difference of a good and damaged negative? After much ado, I ended up paying for the reprints (otherwise I get only the damaged negs back), a compensation in the form of a free roll of film (worth 2 bucks), and the advice, also free, that I should never bring valuable photos to Costco. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Real photo opp: august PUG
Personally I think Bruce Dayton's photo of a row of girls lining up facing the ocean is the most interesting one in this collection. You don't get a shot like this even if you had hired so many people to pose this for you. It won't be the same. It's too natural and uninhibited for that. So I'd think that the photographer whom they were lining up to pose for had a great disadventage. The image has a greenish cast for some reason. So I downloaded it to a graphics editor to see if I could fix it. No success. I also tried one or two stops of brightening. The clothing on the backs of the girls light up and show more detail. But I cannot decide if this is better than the original. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Where? RE: Prints from slides(unmounted)
On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, Butch Black wrote: Dave, do you know what type of equipment it was printed on. Most digital minilabs will do direct prints from slides. I was not impressed with the results from the Konica machine. I like the prints from the Fuji Frontier, Does anyone know where to find a place that can do slide scanning for a good price? Any one know such a place in the south San Francisco Bay area? Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Fuji Provia 100F: great film
Just got a roll of the Provia 100F, pushed to 320. Great film. Grain is visibly bigger than Sensia 100, but the color is truely briliant. Haven't tried it unpushed yet. I always have the Sensia processed by Fuji mailer. The Provia was done by AI. What do other people say about the difference? 1. Provia 100F is much better film? 2. AI processing is much better than Fuji mailer? Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
ebay: nikon s2 closed for $12,656
Highest I've seen for any camera. And the reserve price is NOT met! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1360235184 - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ebay: nikon s2 closed for $12,656
But geez, $12,000, and reserve not met. If he thinks it should be in a museum, maybe he should loan it to one instead of trying to sell it... Its the 50mm f/1.1 lens. Very expensive. Actually, 12 grand may not be too far out of line for that item. It is gorgeous. William Robb I remember once seeing a Leica or Contax (Zeiss) 50mm/1.1 lens at a big photo store, used but in full condition. I don't remember the amount, but my impression of the was price was either less than $1000 or something like $2000, no where near $12K. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Made my day.
This is lovely story. I can just imagine the mother duck and her duckings wobbling across the street in a line. Safe this time. But I wonder how they would learn not try this again. Tonghang On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Jeff wrote: I saved the life of a mother duck and her ducklings. They started walking across a busy 4 lane road. When I realized what was in front of me I slammed on the brakes and honked the horn. The seemed to turn back, but after a second or two, the mother duck continued towards the centre lanes. I had only one option. I got out of the car and stopped all oncoming traffic (crazy). And then proceeded to escort the flock across the street. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
FS: SMC K lenses
Two of the best Pentax lenses: Pentax K SMC 135/2.5, with caps and hood Pentax K SMC 200/4, with caps Both in like new condition. When I say like new I'm not kidding. Therefore no further description necessary. I also have the hard tube cases. But right now I'm not sure I want to part with them. The K135/2.5 is the last sample of this lens I have. The other one went to Shel some time ago. Offers please. $150 and $100 respectively are instant takers. Paypal OK. US checks OK. Shipping is $5 in US. Elsewhere actual. Let me know. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: Read this before you spend all your $$$....,
On Sat, 8 Jun 2002, Steve Desjardins wrote: be inexpensive and allow you to only print what you want. The best part of digital is not the camera but the ability to use Photoshop, since it gives many of us a new capability, i.e., the ability to correct our own color images. Just my two cents . . . Steven Desjardins Anything can use photoshop, you just need a scanner. I see the real advantage of digital camera being the instant-feedback and shoot as many as you want to experiement capability. You can't do this with film. An acquaintance once mentioned this: with his new digital camera, he shoots a lot of pictures, way more than he otherwise would. What more need one say? Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
LX: Re: TLR finders (was: Re: What is the most quiet body?)
On Wed, 24 Apr 2002, Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: Mishka wrote: For super-quiet, undisturbing stealth shooting, i think nothing beats a tlr -- especially since you are composing there without pointing it (or, rather, looking) directly at your subject/object. oh well, pentax doesn't make any, does it? Nothing beats a range finder for the quietness, an advantage of Leica. The LX's shutter has this distinctive ping in it unlike any other camera I know. Perhaps the shutter spring is a bit strong. I don't think the mirror is loud. But the black LX with grip B is just the coolist looking camera you ever see. The famed Nikon F3 doesn't come close. I put a K35/3.5 on my LX with the Nikon HN-2 black metal hood. It's the daintiest thing. And very very functional, and very very reliable. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Street Spirit
Now you have a legitimate reason, if not already, to spend a lot on photo gear, since it has become a business. No doubt you'll soon find all sorts of extra goodies you need, in addition to your current extensive collection. You can probably also deduct the cost and depreciation on all these gear, from your taxes. Even car expenses, gasoline, meals, foreign travel -- all business expenses now. Way to go! Tonghang. On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Shel Belinkoff wrote: There's a newspaper in the area called Street Spirit, which deals with [snip] Once he's seen some more of my work, and, of course, if he likes it, he's promised to give me some specific paid assignments. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT Paypal Problems
This sounds like fraud. You should have it reported to the authorities (FBI.) No doubt you are not the only victim of this person. Paypal should be able to trace it though the payment route. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Mon, 25 Mar 2002, Ted Beilby wrote: Watch out with Pay Pal. I have closed my account after I was notified that I had added an email address one day. The same day I received a message that the primary email address had been changed. I got scared, I couldn't access the account anymore. I was notified by the credit card company that I had listed with Pay Pal that there was questionable charges which I disputed. I checked my bank account and found that there was more than $400 dollars charged to my checking account. The bank told me that there had been a request for $1200. It took quite a bit of time and effort to get everything straightened out. New bank account, all credit cards closed, no account at PayPal. Good luck with your problems. Ted Beilby - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Funny eBay ad
Bad lens condition good for portraiture: There are many small scratches on the front glass. The rear glass is better, with but a few scuff marks. There appears to be a few specks of dust inside, but nothing unusual. ... Because of these imperfections, this lens will probably not be as sharp as a pristine sample, but it is actually better to have a lens with slight softness when taking portraits, and in fact many people spend extra dollars buying soft focus filters or resort to smearing vaseline on filters to try to soften the image for portraiture. With this lens, you may not have to go through all that. It has a built-in soft focus filter of sorts! :) http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1337806995 Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Shooting thru less-than-perfect glass
What's India ink? --- Tonghang. On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, William Robb wrote: Seriously though, you can have a pretty awful looking scratch on a lens, and not have any noticable image degradation from it. Filling the scratch with India Ink pretty much makes it go away. Brother William - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Processing color slide film at home
I remember having seen some discussion about this, but don't remember if it was on this forum. I believe there is a kit of sort that one could buy to process color slide film at home. My questions are: How many rolls do you have to process before it becomes economical, not counting one's own labour? Also, does it require some setup such as darkroom? Is there a can-like container of solution that you can buy, in which you would just drop the film (the kit comes with a film canister opener), close cover, shake for 2 minutes, and it's done? Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: ricoh rikenon lenses
I have a Ricoh lens (50mm2.0 Rikenon) which I tried on Pentax bodies including the 5n. It has this P position on the aperture ring. But it does not correspond to the A position on Pentax lenses: The cameras do not recognize they are in aperture priority mode, which they do if a Pentax lens is shifted to A. Instead, the camerase treat it as a very small aperture. Beside this, I also suspect the metering is not quite right either. I can put aperture on, say 8, on both Ricoh and Pentax lenses, and the cameras give different light meter readings. These lead to me to see the Ricoh, at least this lens I have, as compatible with Pentax bodies only for the mount. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Nitin Garg wrote: hi I recall some post here a few days ago mentioning about older ricoh lenses being incompatible with modern pentax cams (like the zx-5n for eg). I have a rikenon p 1:2 50mm lens and a 35-70mm zoom. Will they work with my zx-5n... i dont want to put them on if they arent coming off after that! :O Also, on the aperture ring one has a P mark and other has a (A)P mark. What do they mean ? Is that the same as the pentax-A lenses? thanks, nitin - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
where to go to scan?
Although it was said that there are Kodak instant scan and print machines in some places that will scan slides also, I've never seen one that does. Where do I find them? Also, can someone suggest a place in California's San Jose area (south bay) that scans color slides? Thanks, Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
buy-it-now or long auction.
On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, Jerome Daryl Coombs-Reyes wrote: Be CERTAIN that you are not underselling yourself. Sometimes you will be surprised how much some people (perhaps in very remote, smaller markets) will be willing to pay for an item when you may deem it significantly less in value. Is 4 days early worth the potential of an extra xx amount of dollars? I for one almost never look at anything other than buy-it-now -- no time to wait out an auction and don't want to bid max in the beginning. EBay makes it easy by puting this red icon next to the items. So the point is, that as a seller, you don't necessarily get the benefit of bigger crowd by dragging it on longer. If a seller is content to sell at a price, then (if I were him) I'd use that as buy-it-now price, and let the auction takes its course if it doesn't sell that way. In fact, I tend to use a low buy-it-now price, to get it over with quickly. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
No dilemma: Re: FM3A dilemma
Specs can be deceiving. You got to try it. I brought an LX to the store and tried FM3A along side with it. FM3A feels like crap (excuse me for the expression.) I see these deficiencies: 1. No interchangeable finders 2. No OTF meetering 3. Only 3 focusing screens (none of which I like) 4. Feels flimsy and cheap (knock it on the table it might break) 5. Can't buy 2nd hand, therefore price is too high But two things it does have over the LX: 1. Flash sync at 250. 2. Quieter shutter. 3. Feels lighter in weight (plastic inside?) The LX is clearly more fun. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Mike Johnston wrote: Bob Walkden wrote: From the spec you've given you might prefer to buy a new Nikon FM3A, which has many of the great LX features (surpasses it in some ways), but then you'd have to get a whole bunch of their lenses too. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Kodak: a company shoots its own foot
Speaking of Kodak, I think it's pretty rare to see a company that throughout the years has been doing all it can to destroy its own baseline business. They sell film, and yet every few years they come up and some stupid (IMHO) contraptions to make film photography less and less interesting to the mass population. 110, APS, and the $10 disposable cameras. Look how popular they are these days, and how bad the results are. Small wonder people are moving to digital camera en masse. Just the other day I heard some clown on radio talking about how $100 digital cameras take photos that are good enough for most people. If Kodak really wants to sell film, where they had their an advantage over other companies, they should advocate 35mm, medium format or even large format, where they can sell large amounts of film. They've been just the opposite. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Tue, 8 Jan 2002, [iso-8859-1] Frits J. Wüthrich wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/rf/020107/n0733085_3.html Lucent has Pat Russo back, as she left Kodak after nine months. Would you think Kodak will survive? Frits Wüthrich - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What Kodak can do: film scanners in Walmart
I looked over a lady at a local Walgreen drug store, printing some 8x10 photos on a self operated Kodak photo scan/print machine, you know, one of those vertical yellow machines with a touch screen on top. These machines are in Walmart as well. The print quality from the print scan was surprisingly good, and you can adjust the level of brightness and do cropping as needed. The machine has ports to read floppy disk, cdrom or a digital camera memory stick, as well as scanning prints directly. Wouldn't be wonderful if the machine could scan negative and slides as well? Imagine you shoot a roll of chrome, study them under your brilliant loupe (which would the Pentax 5X), pick the best one and walk to your friendly local drug store any time of the day, scan and print 8x10, for merely 3 bucks? No need to buy $500 film scanner yourself, print only the ones you like, and no need to buy a $1000 digital camera which becomes obsolete fasters than computers. Wouldn't that be great for everyone? I'm sure Kodak could make a lot of money, AND make film photography last a long time. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: ebay Follies
Perhaps they need the higher price on eBay to cover the eBay commission. But 10% is such overkill. These are the kind of folk who want to make a buck at every turn. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Doug Franklin wrote: Howdy, folks, Well, I've been keeping an eye on ebay for a Nikon Coolscan IV film scanner for a week or so. I've noticed a couple of auctions for them that start at US$ 745 and have a BIN of the same amount, and they're from the same seller, a commercial interest. An example of one of these auctions that's running now is at http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1318910958 When I noticed it was a commercial interest, I decided to bop on over to their Web site and check the price there. The scanner within their site is at http://www.hotbuyselectronics.com/item_detail.asp?item_id=3128 As you can see (if you follow both links) they offer the same scanner for just below US$ 680 on their web site ... you pay a 10% premium for ordering it from them over ebay. Shipping through the web site is over US$ 23 for normal shipment. The ebay ad says email me for actual shipping charges. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Mz-M, basic Photography and some questions ..
On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Girish Ganesan wrote: 2. One of the limitations I faced with MZ-M is the metering system. To experiment with zone system I need spot-metering. I know that MZ-5n MZ-3 etc offer spot metering. How good are they ? From what I I have the ZX-5n which is the same as the MZ-5n. The so called spot metering is metering of a central area as seen in the view finder, which looks rather big. It should perhaps be more appropriately termed partial metering. To meter the detail in a scense without having to approach them, zone system or not, I think the Pentax 1-degree spotmeters would really be useful. I had both the digital and the V. They are highly sensitive meters. As to MZ-M (ZX-M)'s 2-segment matrix metering, I read that it's about the same as its center weighted metering anyway (feature marketing gimmic?) If so, that shouldn't be a concern. I have this camera. I cannot tell the difference. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: lens value: a workable definition (dollar per photograph)?
I suppose this is where certain other brands have an advantage. In photo stores, you can rent those lenses (and cameras) for a day or a week, lenses you'd otherwise never use due to their high prices. But no Pentex for rent. I recently visited a store, not only did they not have any Pentax to rent, they didn't even have a used pentax to sell. Only new stuff, and just the zooms. But they had lots of certain other brands' used lenses, both for rent and for sale. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Paul F. Stregevsky wrote: But I'll probably use a 400mm lens for maybe 15 shots a year. At that rate, the cost per photo will be astronomical at any price, and perhaps I should settle for a $200 specimen. Or a teleconverter, which would spare me the need to buy yet another protective filter and carry yet another big lens. It seems unfair that frequency of use must dictate the quality that it is prudent to buy, but I can't escape the math. It would certainly seem that a well-built lens is an extravagance for someone who will probably not see rugged use. So a lens that has a reputation for being optically excellent but mechanically mediocre would be a good candidate for the infrequent user. Comments? - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
MX for sale
I've got an MX (chrome top) for sale. I'm putting it here before it goes on eBay. Cosmetically and mechanically fine, except for the following: It needs an CLA: mirror foam is gone, seal foam deteriorated, and the shutter button sticks a bit, causing the battery to drain unless you fold in the winding level. The battery cover has some chrome chiped off it, but works fine. Meter and speeds are accurate though. I'm asking $70. Shipping to US addresses is $5. Money order or PayPal or check (needs waiting.) Thanks, Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Black MX + Pentax 50 mm. 1.2
There're a lot of warnings about getting offered an item on eBay as the second high bidder. I had occasion when I had to sell the item to the second bidder because the high bidder bid on the wrong item. He said he would -really- prefer not to proceed with the deal, but would go through if I insisted. Of course I didn't feel like insisting on the poor guy, and managed instead to sell to the second bidder at a slight loss and also got changed a bit extra by eBay for the highest bid amount. But the guy was very grateful, and I was fortunate that the second bidder obliged. So I know that trying to sell to the second bidder is not all fraud or a result of shill bidding. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Len Paris wrote: Do you think he'll tell us if he gets ripped off? This kind of scam usually progresses to the point where he stops the auction and then sends e-mails the top 4 or 5 bidders and tells each them that the winner dropped out and that he'll sell it to them for what they bid. That way he gets 4 or 5 peoples money and never ships to any of them. Ebay considers it to be an uncompleted auction. Len --- That's odd. well, our very own Sid Barris has the current high bid. If he wins we'll have a chance to find out how the transaction went. Rob Studdert wrote: - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re: Battery pack FG
I got mine new for $25US at a local photo store. BH had a used one for $12 about a month ago. I use it on the 5n and ZX-M. It makes a world of difference, in addition to letting you use cheaper and longer lasting batteries. The cameras just don't feel right without it, once you tried it. Regards, Tonghang Zhou On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, David Brooks wrote: Thanks.Have to add more to the budget Dave Begin Original Message From: Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:02:52 -0500 (EST) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Battery pack FG Dave Henry's is sellin them for 29 CAN!!! last week --- David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cory.May i ask how mmuch they are going for?? in Can or USd. Dave __ Send your holiday cheer with http://greetings.yahoo.ca - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Spotmeters
I searched radio shack website and cannot find the catelog number you mention for the small batter (#10282945), and if I remember correctly, it's not 1.5v either, more like something 1.4v or 1.3v. The model name is either 640 or 640A. I'm not sure. Does anyone know where to buy this battery? Regards, Tonghang On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Ken Archer wrote: My 3/21 Spotmeter takes a 22.5 volt battery (#10048411 from Radio Shack) that looks like a smaller 9v battery. The smaller round battery is a 1.5 volt (#10282945 from Radio Shack). You can order them online from www.radioshack.com or through your local Radio Shack store. On Tuesday 11 December 2001 19:17, Len Paris wrote: Ken, I still have mine, I bought it in Japan the first year Pentax made them available. It used two mercury batteries, one of them a 9-volt. I think a 9-volt lithium battery would work for that one but the other mercury battery was an odd physical size and nobody makes anything that will even fit the compartment. I know because, as I say, I continue to search after all these years. Len --- I don't know what you mean by the original Pentax Spotmeter, but I have a 3/21 that is about as old as any I know of and I found batteries for it at Radio Shack through special order. -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . -- Kenneth Archer + San Antonio, Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ #24980801 Powered by Linux ++ Mailed by Kmail - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Selecting a Loupe
Cheap ones are no good. I used a Peak 8X before. Terrible (low contrast, distortion, foggy, you name it.) You ought to consider a Pentax or Schneider, or use your fast 50mm lens turned over and with aperture fully open: makes better loupe than Schneider -- the difference of 5 element vs 1 element. My opinion only of course. Regards, Tonghang On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Christien Bunting wrote: Hi guys. So I've taken up photography seriously now. And I mostly shoot slides. Got me a filmscanner, etc. I've decided to get a Lightbox , which I've already choosen. Now for the Loupe. What goes into the selection process for a Loupe ? I see some cheap ones in the under 10USD range and then some rather expensive blokes in the more than 100USD and this is for the same magn. 8x. What really is needed ? I'd concider once I get my desired magn. 8x and I can see the entire frame from a 35mm slide I'm happy. Like always something tells me there's much more to this. Please enlighten me. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Has anyone got film get X-rayed lately?
There was some talk about packages getting X-rayed or whatever other scanning treatment during shipment after this anthrax incident. So has anyone had such experience yet? What about buying film by mail order or sending in chromes by mailers? Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Hood for FA 28-70/4?
I wonder if someone can recommend a lens shade for the FA 28-70/4, or if that makes good sense. I seem to remember some long ago in this group that a Nik*n hood was suggested, but I can't remember which. Thanks, Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
The 5n could be the best if ...
... if it 1. Had 1/250 flash sync, and 2. Did not have that eye-sore panorama switch, and instead 3. Had the spotmeter button there, which should be a button, not a mode, so that can be used to evaluate parts of the scene in any mode, and, although not critical but still useful and perhaps trivial to implement: if it 4. Had half-stop shutter speeds in manual mode. After all, the speeds are there. Only needed unmarked click stops in the dial. And if it 5. Had the exposure hold button being a toggle (or at least an option for such.) The intuitiveness and surface simplicity of the camera makes it really good camera, even better in the MZ-S in my humble opinion (if it had the extras above.) The 1/250 sync speed may be some extra effort and cost, but the others should be easy to implement, right? Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Japan's market, RE: whats all this?
With some of the most avid Pentax users here in the U.S. and elsewhere, I wonder why a setup like this wouldn't be offered outside of Japan? Jim A. I think the Japaness companies have a tendency to test the market for new products in Japan, before they put them on other markets, perhaps even for products that are targeted to or likely preferred by consumers of other markets (US, Europe, etc.) The effect of this, I imagine, is that the Japanese consumers end up deciding the fate of the new products for the rest of the world. Japan has been in deep resssession. Still is. There must be a great deal of pessimisim among their consumers. So I wonder how many siginificantly new products ever get launched to outside. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
What's this screw on LX
There's a small thumb screw next to the shutter curtain on the LX when you open the back. Does anyone know what this for? Thanks. Tonghang - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Newfangled LX Grip B+ (longer for large hands)...
I wonder if someone figured out how to make such grips whether they'd think about making some for sale. Surely you wouldn't have much use for the rest of that 3-legged coffee table. Tonghang. On Mon, 10 Sep 2001, Cotty wrote: Okay, after all that nonesense getting superglue all over my hands with modifying a Grip B to accept a lug nut point - I've now cut up a blooming coffee table in order to satisfy my insanity further. Introducing the 'Grip B+'. Don't get too excited, it's only a longer version of the original for idiots like me with big hands and drive / battery attached to LX. A few pics and a line or two of mitigation viewable at: http://www.macads.co.uk/lxmods.html Cheers, Cotty ___ Personal email traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] MacAds traffic to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out the UK Macintosh ads www.macads.co.uk - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
All four planes to California
All four planes that crashed (on NY buildings, the Pentagon and in Pensylvinia) were headed to california from Boston or DC areas. This looks like deliberation to me. One thing I see is that these planes would carry the most fuel and result in biggest destructions. That 3 of them should complete their missions entirely and the fourth one at least successfully hijacked, all within an hour or two, shows almost fool proof execution. Must've taken a very long time to plan and required huge preparation and organization efforts. Yet it was a total surprise when it happend. In my humble opinion, this all brings severe doubt on the competency of the US security offices (CIA, FBI, State Dept, etc.) Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
I like 5n better than MZ-S
I got to try the MZ-S in a local store. I think I like the ZX-5n better, for being simpler and more intuitive. The dials are bigger and easier to turn than the MZ-S also. Just the other day, I shot a whole role with the 5n, without realizing that I had put it in spotmetering mode and on auto exposure. Needless to say the result was not satisfactory. Is it useful to have spotmetering in the 5n? Of course. Did it help me? No. More gizmos don't necessarily help. I like the LX more and more. I just wish its accessories weren't so expensive. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Use of Pentax Equipment
Surely if you are using Pentax lenses, which are what really matters, then it should be OK? Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Mon, 21 May 2001, Conrad Samuels wrote: What is the feeling about my using these cameras with Pentax lenses (they are M42 mount cameras) when submitting pictures to the PUG? I know that in open months concessions are made but the rules seem a trifle ambiguous when discussing Pentax equipment or lenses (quote) for the other months. Conrad F. Samuels Kirstenhof SA - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: PUG request
Why would you record the exposure and lighting info? To learn from and grow one's own experience, of course! Isn't this how one learns photography in the first place? There's the side benefit that such info lends others a learning opportunity when the pics are published, such as in PUG. Besides, it's fun to study how a pic is taken and all the photographic consideration that went into it. Such useful info as exposure, lighting, lens and film. What camera is used is perhaps least useful. I see a camera basically as a metering device. Everything else is about the same across all cameras and requires hardly any deliberation: holds film, gives shutter speeds 1-1000 and a viewfinder. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 3 May 2001, Buford Terrell wrote: Why would you record the exposure details? The same lighting and composition configuration will never occur again. Even for zone system, I don't record more than the +/- needed for development. (Unless of course I'm shooting a particular kind of test or experiment) At 08:39 AM 05/03/2001 -0400, you wrote: Where the exposure details aren't recorded, my guess is that the person submitting doesn't know, or never knew. :-) That person is desperately in need of either a 645n or an MZ-S. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
PUG request
These PUG pictures are great. They prove that the list members do exist in real life, not just email accounts. But I wish people would provide more info about how they determined the exposure and any lighting consideration. That would differentiate the pics from postcards, and make for more worthwhile study. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: LX's viewfinder brightness
So everyone should save their money from 50mm/1.2 or any other fast lens, and use it to buy an LX? You get 2 stops brighter view from ALL your lenses. How often do you actually use 50mm at 1.2? Never? It's the brighter finder view you were after, right? I did my comparison with the FA-1, the standard finder. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The LX's viewfinder is excellent. The best I have seen thru. A Nikonian friend simply told Wow! when he saw thru it. Another friend, pentaxian, uses ME super and MZ 5, he uses the ME Super most of the time due to the brighter viewfinder (and when he saw thru the LX also loved it). I agree. When I looked thru the MZ viewfinder, found it very dim in comparison, specially with slow lenses, were the difference is more noticeable. If you want the brightest thing, try a LX with 50 1.2. It's so luminous that it flares : - ) Regards Albano PS: My second LX will be with me soon. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: In Praise of my amazing new Pentax: The ME super!!!
I once had 2 ME-supers and observed a big difference between them in terms of vibration, although both were in great condition. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Much as I like my Super Program, the ME Supers that I've tried in camera stores were quieter, with discernibly less vibration. And seeing the lit - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Re[2]: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!
Nikon already published the list price, no guess work needed. Check their web site for the announcements. If I remember right, it was ($899?) much cheaper than MZ-S's list price. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another factor is the price. FM3A seems excellent, but it will cost A LOT. Just look the price of a FM2n, add all the features the new body has, and the price will be close to the F3. The five letters in front of pentaprism housing adds another 100 or 200 bucks : - ). Just my two cents. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Nikon's New Manual-focus SLR kicks butt!
Gee! What a spec! Should I sell my LX, ZX5n, SuperA, MX, etc, to buy Nikon FM3A? Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Takehiko Ueda wrote: Hi Paul, See here for FM3A http://www.klt.co.jp/Nikon/Press_Release/fm3a.htm and here for Nikkor45/2.8P http://www.klt.co.jp/Nikon/Press_Release/mf45f28.htm - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: OT: MInolta X500
Minolta X-500 is the European name for the X-570. You can find a lot of info about it (X-570) from the Minolta User's Group site: http://www.hempac.net/mug/x-570.html Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, petit miam wrote: Hi everyone, My dad says he is looking at a Minolta X500 about 20 years old with Sigma 30-70. He didn't tell me how much or anything more about the lens. I think he should buy Pentax, but oh well. He is trying to find an LX for me, and has already found me a Tamron P-KA adaptall for my MZ-30, so I can't complain. He would like to hear from anyone with anything to say about this camera. I couldn't find much doing a search on Google or Metacrawler. Perhaps someone has used it. I'm sure they have. Please send replies to me personally (so you don't bother the Pentax police) and I will forward them. Thankyou. Jody. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/?.refer=text - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Horrible person.
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, petit miam wrote: Quoted from http://www.photographystore.com/Pages/camrabg.html "Pentax, Minolta and Olympus. I would lump all of these manufactures together. They are not really built to the same quality as Canon and Nikon. If you choose prime, fixed focal length lenses though they are capable of superb results. Remember I am looking for equipment capable of the absolute best imaging, so There is some truth in his ranting, except the list should expand to include Canon and Nikon as well. Some of consumer zooms are pathetic indeed. Even some cameras (look at Canon Rebelxx for instance.) They don't offer better pictures than many PS cameras but cost much more and are complex, heavy and unwieldy. To the mass consumer, the SLR's they encounter at WalMart or Wolf Camera are decidedly unattractive. No wonder SLR as a whole is loosing it. If you can't afford a good digital which you will update annually like computers, then buy a cheap PS (Yashica T4, Olympus stylus, etc.) Or if you really like photography, go to medium format. That's my ranting. Now I feel better. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Definitely an old wives tale...
There's a McD and Burger King close to where I work. Sometimes I go there, and when I do I almost always go to Burger King, just because the way of the traffic makes it easier. Are Burger King's beef and fries OK? Seriously, the fact McD is the largest of them makes it more likely to be the target of such stories. At least they have enforce a corporate procedure/standard for making their foods. Unlikely your favorite street corner restuarants. You don't know what they do to your food in the backrooms. Tonghang. On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, aimcompute wrote: Really - seriously, you can't be upset about that? I'll bet I could go find 10 websites slamming McDonald's into the ground right now with all kinds of stories true and false and I've never even looked before. On a somewhat cynical note, I think the corporate entity McDonalds is interested more in my wallet and protecting their backsides than anything else. I never intended to start a war. On the other hand, you want to know what I heard about their french fries? :-) Tom C. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:54 AM Subject: OT: Definitely an old wives tale... OT: Possible wives-tale. My wife was telling me last weekend that one her girlfriend's aways back husband was a beef buyer and would travel the country to cattle auctions. The term "cancer-beef" apparently applied to cattle that had tumors and were otherwise "unprime". Apparently, according to the story, McDonalds was consistently the buyer of this kind of livestock and always bought it up quickly. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Kiron url found!
Or you can buy mine for $80 + shipping. Excellent condition, except a nick on filter ring and a few light hairline marks on the flat glass in the front. Comes with original front cap and generic rear cap. Here's a photo: http://www.cicely.com/trade/kiron.jpg This is a one touch zoom. I occasionally use it and find it better than many pentax smc zooms (except the 28-70/4 of course.) Tonghang. Wow, neat info on Kiron. One other thing, they talk a lot about the 28-210 Macro zoom which they give very high marks for. I just checked KEH. One there in Ex+ for $149. I'm very tempted Andy -Original Message- From: Daphne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: March 7, 2001 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kiron url found! http://www.smu.edu/~rmonagha/third/cult.html#kiron link was in the description of a *very* nice-looking kiron on ebay.. 28/2 alas, not 24/2 :-((( Daphne - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Solution: was WOW! Check this out!
Wow--this is quite the mother lode. Check this out. 3 mint LXs and a number of quite rare lenses. http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=1216700680 "Paris, Leonard" wrote: Consortium? Nope. If the consortium won, imagine the magnitude of the battle over who gets what! There are enough LX'es to split between three people but the lenses would cause problems. I have a solution: 1. We designate one member to bid on the item. 2. All other members do not bid. 3. Auction ends, the designated member negotiates deal with seller if reserve not met. 4. Assume, say the final price is $6000 (shipping included.) The designated member puts all itmes for list members to bid on piece wise, (read on!) 5. The high bidders win the their items. (read on!) 6. Say the sum of all bid prices add up to $7000. The designed member perforate $1000, the difference from $6000, and refund the winning bidders in proportion. 7. The designated member distribute items, shipping paid by receipients. This is fair, and there'll be no fight. There's just one problem: what if the our own bid prices don't add up to the ebay auction price? The designated member would lose out. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Solution: was WOW! Check this out!
I might also add, that in step 4, only one offer price per person per item will be allowed. The highest offers will be accepted. This way we avoid a bidding war amongst the list members. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Tonghang Zhou wrote: I have a solution: 1. We designate one member to bid on the item. 2. All other members do not bid. 3. Auction ends, the designated member negotiates deal with seller if reserve not met. 4. Assume, say the final price is $6000 (shipping included.) The designated member puts all itmes for list members to bid on piece wise, (read on!) 5. The high bidders win the their items. (read on!) 6. Say the sum of all bid prices add up to $7000. The designed member perforate $1000, the difference from $6000, and refund the winning bidders in proportion. 7. The designated member distribute items, shipping paid by receipients. This is fair, and there'll be no fight. There's just one problem: what if the our own bid prices don't add up to the ebay auction price? The designated member would lose out. Regards, ___ Tonghang Zhou (Zhou is pronounced like Joe) - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Check out brochure info on new SLR and lenses
Paul Jones wrote ... if i get ride of a few bodies i should be able to change over with out to much more money leaving my pocket... But i think i to will wait til there hopefully around $600us Mmm, drop it on the floor, there will go $600. Better keep that LX. Tonghang. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
