Re: GESO after dinner photo walk

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 22, 2012, at 11:57 PM, Bob W wrote:

>> I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, not really excited
>> about anything I've gotten.  I tried to shake it off by going for a
>> walk around Pacific Ave in Santa Cruz after dinner, then a quick drive
>> down to the wharf.  
> 
> I misread that first time as dwarf. Reminds me of a laughter fit I had once
> when I was discussing the next car I wanted to buy and someone said "don't
> get one of them, get a midget instead".

When the dark blue car in one of my most prized pictures of myself rolled off 
the assembly line it was a midget.  
The only way that you'd be able to tell now, would be some bondoed over holes 
in the fenders.

http://www.red4est.com/lrc/racer_html/miscpix.html

The skinny guy in those pictures was me 28 years, and more than twice as many 
pounds ago. The older gent was a wonderful chap named Donald.  Donald Healey.  
He came out to Santa Cruz for the Sprite's 25th anniversary event.

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

[David Mann]

On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

> Quoting Bob W :
> 
>> Australia has a collection of unpleasant insects and snakes whose sole
>> purpose in life is to kill you, so you probably want to watch out for them.
> 
> I was wondering when someone was going to mention them, but if John stays 
> away from Canberra he should be OK.

They seem to be too busy squabbling among themselves at the moment to pay any 
attention to foreigners.  I must say it's very entertaining from over here.

AFAIK you don't need any shots for Australia, unless perhaps you're going 
northwards into the tropical part where they'll undoubtedly have mosquitoes.  I 
don't think it's possible to immunise against crocodiles, jellyfish, sharks, 
spiders and snakes.  Better make sure you carry an indigestible form of ID so 
your family can be informed afterwards.

Cheers,
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PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Larry Colen]

Here's one that I just can't decide about:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/

A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye.  I 
tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same interesting 
shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect that it might just be 
a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair amount of effort into it, I 
really want to believe that it's actually a decent photo.

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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Jack Davis]

I'd suggest that the only hope for it is to start by eliminating the white down 
the right edge. Might flip it to horizontal, either to the right or left, and 
assign some significance to the center separation and tilt of the half of the 
ducts.
My sense is, however, that I haven't the imagination to pull this off 
successfully.
 
Jack 



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Here's one that I just can't decide about:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/

A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye.  I 
tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same interesting 
shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect that it might just be 
a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair amount of effort into it, I 
really want to believe that it's actually a decent photo.

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Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?

[Steven Desjardins]

I appreciate the advice about KEH.  They really aren't my first choice
at all, but their email sparked this line of thought.  I would
certainly  try the PDML first.  My problem is that the K7 gets almost
no use anymore, as I tend to grab the E-P2 or X-10.  This leads me to
wonder if I should sell it now while it still has some value.

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:25 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From:  Kenneth Waller
>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "John Sessoms" 
>> Subject: Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?
>>
>>
>>> From: Steven Desjardins
>>>
 This is a real question for me.  KEH will be nearby on Saturday, and
 it got me to thinking about selling my K7 to buy the K-01, given that
 the latter will  have a much better sensor, electronics, and hence IQ.
  Thoughts on this?

>>> If the K-01 is the tool you need to take your photography where you want
>>> it to go, and KEH will offer enough for the K7 to make that possible,
>>> it's a "no brainer".
>>>
>> You've apparently never tried to sell anything to KEH.
>
>
> Moot point. If both conditions apply ... it is a no brainer.
>
> If neither condition applies ...
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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Bong Manayon]

What Jack said...

But if you have a chance to do it again, I would shoot it from an
angle closer to the wall on the left and lower to be as perpendicular
as possible to the middle two, that way they all have more or less
equal 'weight' and then flip it to the horizontal (either way--but am
biased to clockwise with the wall on top).

Bong

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
> I'd suggest that the only hope for it is to start by eliminating the white 
> down the right edge. Might flip it to horizontal, either to the right or 
> left, and assign some significance to the center separation and tilt of the 
> half of the ducts.
> My sense is, however, that I haven't the imagination to pull this off 
> successfully.
>
> Jack
>
>
> 
> From: Larry Colen 
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> Subject: PESO Laundry Room, comments please
>
> Here's one that I just can't decide about:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/
>
> A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye.  I 
> tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same interesting 
> shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect that it might just 
> be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair amount of effort into it, I 
> really want to believe that it's actually a decent photo.
>
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RE: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Bob W]

> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Larry Colen
> 
> Here's one that I just can't decide about:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-
> 72157629070296314/
> 
> A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my
> eye.  I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the
> same interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I
> suspect that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a
> fair amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
> actually a decent photo.
> 

Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.

> since I put a
> fair amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
> actually a decent photo.

M!


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OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[David Savage]

G'day All,

One more from last weekend:

*WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*



Comments and/or critiques welcome.

Cheers,

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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[David Savage]

On 23 February 2012 22:00, Bob W  wrote:
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> Larry Colen
>>
>> Here's one that I just can't decide about:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-
>> 72157629070296314/
>>
>> A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my
>> eye.  I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the
>> same interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I
>> suspect that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a
>> fair amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
>> actually a decent photo.
>>
>
> Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.

^ Ditto.

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Re: prices

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:52 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
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>
> I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let you look
> at the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. I don't
> and don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions for years
> and years.

Have not tried to look at these recently, but i know in the past, i
have had little or no luck trying to access sold for prices, even with
my account.:-(, but I'll try again.

Not sure if either the D1 or K-10 will sell locally. I have no lenses
to offer, just the bodies and that seems to be a sticky point for the
sale.


Dave

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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[David J Brooks]

Nice, the lighting is very nice.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:26 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> One more from last weekend:
>
> *WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
>
> 
>
> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: GESO after dinner photo walk

[David J Brooks]

Nice set there.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:49 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, not really excited about 
> anything I've gotten.  I tried to shake it off by going for a walk around 
> Pacific Ave in Santa Cruz after dinner, then a quick drive down to the wharf. 
>  While there isn't anything particularly outstanding, I think I got a few 
> entertaining shots.  It was nice weather, so the hippies were out in force.  
> What's the collective noun for hippies?  Tribe? Deadshow?
> Anyways, they actually had someone pretty decent on the trumpet, so their 
> impromptu bardic circle on the sidewalk actually sounded better than most.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629434946815/
>
> I'd love to see what Knarf would do given a K-5 and a couple hours on a warm 
> night in Santa Cruz.
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[p. j. alling]

Nicely done.  As Dave said well lit. I really hate you.

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> Cheers,
>
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Paul Stenquist]

Wonderful light, but I have to wonder if it isn't a wee bit oversaturated. 
Paul
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> *WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
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> 
> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[David Savage]

It's over split toned...there's a difference :-D


On 23 February 2012 23:41, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Wonderful light, but I have to wonder if it isn't a wee bit oversaturated.
> Paul
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:26 AM, David Savage wrote:
>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> One more from last weekend:
>>
>> *WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
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>> 
>>
>> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Paul Stenquist]

I should amend my previous comment and say I find it a wee bit oversaturated 
for my taste. Saturation is a subjective element. But I would want to lose the 
vibrant red streaks in the hair and the red tonality in the skin. But very nice 
work overall 
On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:26 AM, David Savage wrote:

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> 
> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Bruce Walker]

Excellently done, Dave. Good balance of shadow depth and detail.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:26 AM, David Savage  wrote:
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> G'day All,
>
> One more from last weekend:
>
> *WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
>
> 
>
> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

[Darren Addy]

Our tour also included Canberra and I would NOT recommend it,
particularly if time is precious. I would have MUCH rather had another
two days in Melbourne or roving around Sydney than that long slog.
Being a fairly recently manufactured capital city, Canberra is far too
modern to be interesting (for my tastes). There is a big War Museum
there, if you are a military buff, but I don't recall much more
terribly beautiful or interesting about the place.

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

[Stan Halpin]

A travel/adventure writer, Bill Bryson, has done a series of books including 
hitchhiking in Europe, through-hiking the Appalachian Trail, and traveling 
through Australia. I thought the Australia book was a good read. I particularly 
enjoyed his description of Canberra, and having read it I was spared a shock; 
Canberra is unlike any other city you are ever likely to visit. I was in 
Canberra briefly, Sunday evening through Thursday morning, at the tail end of a 
working trip that included stops in (and PDML meetings in) Adelaide, Melbourne, 
and Sydney. I think Canberra is worth the trip for the art museum alone, the 
tour of the Parliament building was an added extra. Don't expect any nightlife! 
And there is always a time-distance and travel-mode tradeoff; Canberra: a) was 
built for cars; and b) was situated a long way from Melbourne, Sydney, and 
anything else of importance in the country. Se getting there and getting around 
may cost more time than you are willing/able to spend.

stan

On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:46 AM, John Celio wrote:

> I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I
> pick your brains for a moment.
> 
> I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking
> some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in
> Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I
> want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney.
> 
> I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to
> keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to
> see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too
> touristy.
> 
> (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike
> everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll
> probably have to lug around.)
> 
> Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car
> and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also,
> what's the weather like there in May?
> 
> Many thanks,
> John
> 
> P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling
> like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely
> appreciated.


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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Cotty]

On 23/2/12, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>*WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
>
>
>
>Comments and/or critiques welcome.

Love it but am crying out for some more thigh (arent we all).

I mean I think the crop is just a tad to high on the bottom (of the frame).

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Re: PESO -- Pot hole

[kwaller]

I've seen similar holes adjacent to/or in flowing bodies of water - I was 
told they were formed over many years by the moving action of pebbles caused 
by water flowing over them. I've posted images of these that were formed in 
the Carp river in the Porcupine Wilderness State Park, in the Upper 
Peninsula of Michigan.


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- Original Message - 
From: "steve harley" 

Subject: Re: PESO -- Pot hole



on 2012-02-22 11:26 P. J. Alling wrote

Damn, but I'm boring...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20pothole.html


interesting geometric composition; if the bottom of the pothole were 
black, it might be a little more surreal



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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[kwaller]

Nah.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: PESO Laundry Room, comments please



Here's one that I just can't decide about:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/

A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye. 
I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same 
interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect that 
it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair amount of 
effort into it, I really want to believe that it's actually a decent 
photo.


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Re: prices

[kwaller]

Received an email from KEH with among other things -

KEH News: We have RAISED our buy prices on tons of digital camera bodies, 
lenses, and accessories! We are paying the highest market prices in order to 
increase our digital product inventory. So if you have been thinking about 
selling or trading some of your digital equipment, now is the time! You can 
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for a quote, or use our online quote engine- Just click HERE to access.


Are they listening to the PDML ?

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- Original Message - 
From: "steve harley" 

Subject: Re: prices



on 2012-02-22 19:52 John Sessoms wrote
I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let you 
look at
the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. I don't 
and
don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions for years and 
years.


okay, i understand that; i do think that's still the policy, and it does 
stop you from seeing the most meaningful pricing info



You can still tell a little bit from the auctions in progress. If it's 
only got
another 2 hours to run and still no bids they've obviously set the 
initial

price too high.


i suppose you can learn something from that, though the sample will be 
smaller and it could easily be something about a particular listing makes 
people feel like it's not worth much, or is a bigger risk



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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Charles Robinson]

On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:57, Cotty wrote:

> On 23/2/12, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> *WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
> 
> Love it but am crying out for some more thigh (arent we all).
> 
> I mean I think the crop is just a tad to high on the bottom (of the frame).
> 

Concur.  I thought of mentioning that but didn't want to sound greedy or creepy 
(or something).

 -Charles

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Re: prices

[Mark Roberts]

 wrote:

>Received an email from KEH with among other things -
>
>KEH News: We have RAISED our buy prices on tons of digital camera bodies, 
>lenses, and accessories! We are paying the highest market prices in order to 
>increase our digital product inventory. So if you have been thinking about 
>selling or trading some of your digital equipment, now is the time! You can 
>either call one of our professional buyers at 770-333-4220 or 1-800-342-5534 
>for a quote, or use our online quote engine- Just click HERE to access.
>
>Are they listening to the PDML ?

No. Just lying ;-)
Seriously, "highest *market* prices" just means within the market
consisting of camera retailers looking to buy product which they can
re-sell at a profit. Don't expect anything to really change.

 
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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Mark Roberts]

Larry Colen wrote:

>Here's one that I just can't decide about:
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/
>
>A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye.  
>I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same 
>interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect 
>that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair 
>amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's actually a 
>decent photo.

I think there's a good photo (probably B&W) in there somewhere but
you're going to have to work the subject more to find it. Experiment
with different camera angles and crops.

 
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Re: Cold Day

[Don Guthrie]

Thanks Dave. I had my mittens on.








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Has a definite winter feel to it.

Dave

On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:

The coldest day in the mildest midwest winter in years. This shallow lake is
one of the few somewhat solid ice but you can see open water in the
distance.

C&C is always welcome & will be cogitated.


http://donspix.posterous.com/coldest-day-in-the-mildest-winter-on-the-lake#!/

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Peso - they'll never find me here

[Ann Sanfedele]

Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large

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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[Charles Robinson]

On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:39, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
> Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
> frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh
> 
> but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra
> 
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large
> 

Nice, although I would like to see it with slightly warmer tones.  Seems very 
very blue.

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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/23/2012 11:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

Larry Colen wrote:


Here's one that I just can't decide about:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/

A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye.
I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same
interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect
that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair
amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's actually a
decent photo.

I think there's a good photo (probably B&W) in there somewhere but
you're going to have to work the subject more to find it. Experiment
with different camera angles and crops.


Exactly what I was thinking. I downloaded the shot and did some 
experimenting on it, but I don't know what the etiquette is on that sort 
of thing; tweaking the work of others, etc. But, I do agree it could 
become a more interesting photo -- most particularly in B/W.


-- Walt

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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[kwaller]

Very nice capture - certainly not the typical zoo shot !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Sanfedele" 

Subject: Peso - they'll never find me here



Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large

ann



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Re: Cold Day

[Don Guthrie]

 I was there looking for roosting Eagles. I found the nest but no 
Eagles so I will be returning soon & often.


 In the next 30 days when the ice goes out migrating pelicans will be 
stopping there. So I will have plenty of opportunity to prove what a 
lousy bird photographer I am.








Quoting Don Guthrie :

The coldest day in the mildest midwest winter in years. This shallow
lake is one of the few somewhat solid ice but you can see open water
in the distance.

C&C is always welcome & will be cogitated.


http://donspix.posterous.com/coldest-day-in-the-mildest-winter-on-the-lake#!/




It certainly has the crisp, wintery feel to it.  I like it as is but,
if that lake is close to home, there should be lots of photo ops
there.  I'd be going back often.



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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[Steven Desjardins]

Of course, I was just going to write how much I like the blues and greens.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:
>
> On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:39, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>
>> Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
>> Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
>> frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh
>>
>> but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra
>>
>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large
>>
>
> Nice, although I would like to see it with slightly warmer tones.  Seems very 
> very blue.
>
>  -Charles
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Re: PESO -- Pot hole

[Steven Desjardins]

" interesting geometric composition; if the bottom of the pothole were
black, it might be a little more surreal"

Then it would be a black hole.

(Also bored)
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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
> Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
> frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh
>
> but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra
>
> http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large

Like the photo!

Like the blues and greens, but it does seem just a hair more cyan than
it ought to be. ;-)

But I'm jealous that you got to the Bronx Zoo. I haven't been there in
at least 30 years! I went to High School basically right across the
street from the Zoo and used to go there often.
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Re: Question: Sell K7 to buy K-01?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> I appreciate the advice about KEH.  They really aren't my first choice
> at all, but their email sparked this line of thought.  I would
> certainly  try the PDML first.  My problem is that the K7 gets almost
> no use anymore, as I tend to grab the E-P2 or X-10.  This leads me to
> wonder if I should sell it now while it still has some value.

I'd put the K7 on Ebay, sell it, then buy a K-01.

To me, the K-01 with DA21 and FA43 would be a delightful shooter. If
it wouldn't cost me nearly $2000 to get that, I'd go for it now.
Although I would prefer it in solid black rather than panda; i could
live with bumblebee.
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Re: prices

[p. j. alling]

No one listens to the PDML!  Their main weapons are sarcasm and
snark...  Their two main weapons are sarcasm, snark and undying
loyalty to Pentax... Their three main weapons are sarcasm, snark,
undying  loyalty to Pentax and...  Their four main weapons are...

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM,   wrote:
> Received an email from KEH with among other things -
>
> KEH News: We have RAISED our buy prices on tons of digital camera bodies,
> lenses, and accessories! We are paying the highest market prices in order to
> increase our digital product inventory. So if you have been thinking about
> selling or trading some of your digital equipment, now is the time! You can
> either call one of our professional buyers at 770-333-4220 or 1-800-342-5534
> for a quote, or use our online quote engine- Just click HERE to access.
>
> Are they listening to the PDML ?
>
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
>
> - Original Message - From: "steve harley" 
> Subject: Re: prices
>
>
>
>> on 2012-02-22 19:52 John Sessoms wrote
>>>
>>> I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let you
>>> look at
>>> the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. I don't
>>> and
>>> don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions for years and
>>> years.
>>
>>
>> okay, i understand that; i do think that's still the policy, and it does
>> stop you from seeing the most meaningful pricing info
>>
>>
>>> You can still tell a little bit from the auctions in progress. If it's
>>> only got
>>> another 2 hours to run and still no bids they've obviously set the
>>> initial
>>> price too high.
>>
>>
>> i suppose you can learn something from that, though the sample will be
>> smaller and it could easily be something about a particular listing makes
>> people feel like it's not worth much, or is a bigger risk
>
>
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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Doug Brewer]

On 2/23/12 4:10 AM, Larry Colen wrote:

Here's one that I just can't decide about:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/

A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye.  I 
tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same interesting 
shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect that it might just be 
a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair amount of effort into it, I 
really want to believe that it's actually a decent photo.




There may be an interesting photo down there, but I don't think you've 
uncovered it yet. Keep trying. As Mark said, work the subject.


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Leica M but which one?

[Thibouille]

I slowly convinced myself I needed to try a Leica (was hard actually).
I don't wanna try alternatives *before* the M, if the M is nice but
doesn't justify the cost, I'll look into Voigtlander and such.

So, fot those who indeed shot with an M, what should I look for?
Buying new is out of the question, and, let's say a lens might get
useful as well ;)
An M4 seems affordable but no meter. M6 is pricey at about 1000 euros.

Mmm are brick and mortar dealer a more serious source for that kind of
cameras or Ebay is as good (scared of scams).

Thank you.

PS: Film rulez :)

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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

That is a very graceful and appealing image.
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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:26 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> G'day All,
>
> One more from last weekend:
>
> *WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
>
> 
>
> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[Jack Davis]

Pleasing, Ann. Not being familiar with the Kookaburra's beak color, am unable 
to comment. Head and beak are rendered nicely sharp.
I, also,see an acceptable touch of blue.

Jack



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Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:39 AM
Subject: Peso - they'll never find me here

Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large

ann

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RE: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia?

[John Sessoms]

Looking at the number of suggestions, I want to warn against something I 
always have a problem with - trying to do *too much* on one trip. You 
end up with many of the things you really want to do not getting the 
attention they deserve; especially as the end of the trip nears.


Better to plan on seeing/doing a few less things on this trip & start 
scheming how you're going to manage to make the NEXT trip happen so you 
can see/do the rest.


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Re: Leica M but which one?

[p. j. alling]

If you're using film, forget about a meter with a Leica and learn the
characteristics of Tri-X, Most of my shooting with the Spotmatic II
and Tri-X was well beyond the metering capability of the camera.  In
fact the first time I had a camera who's meter was even close to as
good as a trained eye was my LX.  Heck man you're using film.

By the way, since the resale value of used Leicas is pretty close to
the purchase price, any good condition specimen that you buy is a
bargain.  You can probably sell it for nearly as much as you paid for
it.  Maybe more than you paid for it if you're lucky.


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Thibouille  wrote:
> I slowly convinced myself I needed to try a Leica (was hard actually).
> I don't wanna try alternatives *before* the M, if the M is nice but
> doesn't justify the cost, I'll look into Voigtlander and such.
>
> So, fot those who indeed shot with an M, what should I look for?
> Buying new is out of the question, and, let's say a lens might get
> useful as well ;)
> An M4 seems affordable but no meter. M6 is pricey at about 1000 euros.
>
> Mmm are brick and mortar dealer a more serious source for that kind of
> cameras or Ebay is as good (scared of scams).
>
> Thank you.
>
> PS: Film rulez :)
>
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PESO - Bricks and Shadows

[George Sinos]

The afternoon sun casts dramatic shadows along the downtown skyline. I
particularly like this detail. This shadow only appears for a few
weeks in the winter due to the orientation of the buildings and the
low angle of the sun in the sky.

This photo has been in my library since 2007. This version had been
lightly reprocessed through Photomatix in an attempt to coax a little
more detail out of the shadow area near the windows.  I had only
bracketed plus or minus 1 stop.  At the time I hadn't planned on using
HDR, I just bracketed because it seemed like a good idea.   I recently
decided to give HDR a try to see what would happen.  I'm fairly happy
with the outcome.



gs

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Re: PAW111 - Nothing

[DagT]

Thanks P.J. Frank and Larry.

Sorry, but nothing remains uncropped :-)

DagT

Den 21. feb. 2012 kl. 03:26 skrev P. J. Alling:

> You managed to make nothing look interesting.  I'm really going to stop 
> looking at your PESOs now.
> 
> On 2/20/2012 6:10 PM, DagT wrote:
>> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
>> K-5, DA*55mm, 1/30s, f/1.4, ISO100.
>> 
>> DagT
>> http://www.thrane.name/
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Don't lose heart!  They might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a 
> lengthily search.
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GESO after dinner photo walk

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen


I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, not really excited
about anything I've gotten.  I tried to shake it off by going for a
walk around Pacific Ave in Santa Cruz after dinner, then a quick
drive down to the wharf.  While there isn't anything particularly
outstanding, I think I got a few entertaining shots.  It was nice
weather, so the hippies were out in force.  What's the collective
noun for hippies?  Tribe? Deadshow? Anyways, they actually had
someone pretty decent on the trumpet, so their impromptu bardic
circle on the sidewalk actually sounded better than most.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629434946815/

I'd love to see what Knarf would do given a K-5 and a couple hours on
a warm night in Santa Cruz.


Hippies *is* the collective (i.e. plural) noun. "Hippie" when there's 
only one of them.


Although, technically it should always be preceded with the modifier OLD.

You don't really see REAL hippies anymore. The ones who are left kind of 
blended into the background - camouflaged as it were. Most of us 
eventually got married, got jobs, bought houses (joined the Army believe 
it or not) - maybe had a lot of kids ... and too many started voting 
republican.


But if you want to find REAL hippies, look for old farts hanging around 
together to the tune of John Prine, Tom Paxton, Phil Ochs ...


What you have just looked like a bunch of kids hanging out - something 
that started long before hippiedom and will still be around long after 
the last of us is gone.


"ZA Y ART" would be the best, were it framed a little better.

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PESO: Winter Bloom

[Paul Stenquist]

I have two orchid plants. Both were blooming when purchased. One is now four 
years old and appears healthy but has never bloomed again. The other one is 
just a year old and bloomed this week for the first time. I shot a pic of a 
single bloom lit by the window behind it. A bit of distraction in the bokeh 
patterning but a nice bloom for a gray day.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15228726
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RE: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen


Here's one that I just can't decide about:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/

 A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my
eye.  I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the
same interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I
suspect that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put
a fair amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
actually a decent photo.


Leave it for six months. When you come back to it, try rotating 90 deg 
in either direction and look for new possibilities there.


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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Darren Addy]

"Comments please?" Not sure how indelicately I can put this, but it's
crap. Acknowledge and move on. Time spent on this image could be
better spent creating new images. No one is doing you any favors
encouraging you to spend more time on it. (This is only one man's
opinion, however it is the correct one to hold).
:)

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Re: Leica M but which one?

[Paul Stenquist]

I bought both of my thread-mount  Leicas on ebay. No problem if you only deal 
with people who have numerous sales and a 100% rating. If you buy a meterless 
Leica, you can get a meter that attaches to the flash shoe or use a handheld 
meter. A handheld incident meter is superior to most in-camera meters. The M4 
is probably a good choice if price is important. It's also a nice camera. The 
thread-mount Leicas, like the IIIf and IIIc, are nice as well and quite 
affordable, but loading film is tricky until you get the hang of it.
Paul
On Feb 23, 2012, at 1:21 PM, Thibouille wrote:

> I slowly convinced myself I needed to try a Leica (was hard actually).
> I don't wanna try alternatives *before* the M, if the M is nice but
> doesn't justify the cost, I'll look into Voigtlander and such.
> 
> So, fot those who indeed shot with an M, what should I look for?
> Buying new is out of the question, and, let's say a lens might get
> useful as well ;)
> An M4 seems affordable but no meter. M6 is pricey at about 1000 euros.
> 
> Mmm are brick and mortar dealer a more serious source for that kind of
> cameras or Ebay is as good (scared of scams).
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> PS: Film rulez :)
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[John Sessoms]

From: Paul Stenquist


I should amend my previous comment and say I find it a wee bit
oversaturated for my taste. Saturation is a subjective element. But I
would want to lose the vibrant red streaks in the hair and the red
tonality in the skin. But very nice work overall



I think that's probably really the color she's dyed her hair. I'm amazed 
David could find a model her age with no visible tattoos.




On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:26 AM, David Savage wrote:


G'day All,

One more from last weekend:

*WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*



Comments and/or critiques welcome.

Cheers,

Dave

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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[John Sessoms]

From: Cotty


On 23/2/12, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:


*WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*



Comments and/or critiques welcome.

Love it but am crying out for some more thigh (arent we all).

I mean I think the crop is just a tad to high on the bottom (of the frame).


It does sort of cry out for a vertical panorama, but where would you put 
the staples?


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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[p. j. alling]

You obviously hang out with the wrong class of people...

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:16 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Paul Stenquist
>
>
>> I should amend my previous comment and say I find it a wee bit
>> oversaturated for my taste. Saturation is a subjective element. But I
>> would want to lose the vibrant red streaks in the hair and the red
>> tonality in the skin. But very nice work overall
>>
>
> I think that's probably really the color she's dyed her hair. I'm amazed
> David could find a model her age with no visible tattoos.
>
>
>
>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:26 AM, David Savage wrote:
>>
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> One more from last weekend:
>>>
>>> *WARNING* If offended by nudity, don't click on the link below */WARNING*
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Comments and/or critiques welcome.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[John Sessoms]

From: Charles Robinson


On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:39, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large


Nice, although I would like to see it with slightly warmer tones.  Seems very 
very blue.


If you were born in the Australian outback and had to spend the rest of 
your life in a cage at the Bronx Zoo, you'd be blue too.


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Re: prices

[John Sessoms]

From: "p. j. alling"


No one listens to the PDML!  Their main weapons are sarcasm and
snark...  Their two main weapons are sarcasm, snark and undying
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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Bruce Walker]

In the foreground introduce a young, lightly and sloppily dressed
woman, slouched smoking in a beat-up looking lawn-chair, then process
it to look like a Polaroid. Add lots of grain.

It's Art man. The hipsters will eat it up.


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> Here's one that I just can't decide about:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/
>
> A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my eye.  I 
> tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same interesting 
> shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I suspect that it might just 
> be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair amount of effort into it, I 
> really want to believe that it's actually a decent photo.
>
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Re: PESO: Winter Bloom

[Bob Sullivan]

Paul,
Nice shot and well staged, good point of focus.
I especially appreciated the uncluttered background.
If the other orchid is a phalaenopsis like this one,
put them both in ths same light and just wait.
We have a bunch in a north facing bay window that bloom regularly/continuously.
If the other is a cattleya or dendrobium, it needs light and cold -
forget about it!
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I have two orchid plants. Both were blooming when purchased. One is now four 
> years old and appears healthy but has never bloomed again. The other one is 
> just a year old and bloomed this week for the first time. I shot a pic of a 
> single bloom lit by the window behind it. A bit of distraction in the bokeh 
> patterning but a nice bloom for a gray day.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15228726
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RE: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Bob W :


From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Colen

Here's one that I just can't decide about:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-
72157629070296314/

A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my
eye.  I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the
same interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I
suspect that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a
fair amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
actually a decent photo.



Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.



...or a dream.


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Re: prices

[Kenneth Waller]

I seem to remember awhile back the PDML was being monitored by someone 
associated with KEH.

-Original Message-
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>Subject: Re: prices
>
>No one listens to the PDML!  Their main weapons are sarcasm and
>snark...  Their two main weapons are sarcasm, snark and undying
>loyalty to Pentax... Their three main weapons are sarcasm, snark,
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>On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:20 PM,   wrote:
>> Received an email from KEH with among other things -
>>
>> KEH News: We have RAISED our buy prices on tons of digital camera bodies,
>> lenses, and accessories! We are paying the highest market prices in order to
>> increase our digital product inventory. So if you have been thinking about
>> selling or trading some of your digital equipment, now is the time! You can
>> either call one of our professional buyers at 770-333-4220 or 1-800-342-5534
>> for a quote, or use our online quote engine- Just click HERE to access.
>>
>> Are they listening to the PDML ?
>>
>> Kenneth Waller
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>> - Original Message - From: "steve harley" 
>> Subject: Re: prices
>>
>>
>>
>>> on 2012-02-22 19:52 John Sessoms wrote

 I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let you
 look at
 the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. I don't
 and
 don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions for years and
 years.
>>>
>>>
>>> okay, i understand that; i do think that's still the policy, and it does
>>> stop you from seeing the most meaningful pricing info
>>>
>>>
 You can still tell a little bit from the auctions in progress. If it's
 only got
 another 2 hours to run and still no bids they've obviously set the
 initial
 price too high.
>>>
>>>
>>> i suppose you can learn something from that, though the sample will be
>>> smaller and it could easily be something about a particular listing makes
>>> people feel like it's not worth much, or is a bigger risk


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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[Ann Sanfedele]

You're right, it is a bit too blue...
I've adjusted it and am about to replace the first one...
It has to do with the lighting in the enclosure, but looks
a bit better warmed up a triffle.  thanks, Chalres good catch!

ann

On 2/23/2012 12:47, Charles Robinson wrote:


On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:39, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large



Nice, although I would like to see it with slightly warmer tones.  Seems very 
very blue.

  -Charles

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Re: PESO: Winter Bloom

[Kenneth Waller]

Nice capture Paul.


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: PESO: Winter Bloom
>
>I have two orchid plants. Both were blooming when purchased. One is now four 
>years old and appears healthy but has never bloomed again. The other one is 
>just a year old and bloomed this week for the first time. I shot a pic of a 
>single bloom lit by the window behind it. A bit of distraction in the bokeh 
>patterning but a nice bloom for a gray day.
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15228726



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Re: Leica M but which one?

[Thibouille]

Thank you. I was suspecting such an answer, and I admit I'm very happy
with it :)
Less money, and I'll be forced to train my meter so to say.

May Kodak live long enough for my Tri-X needs.

2012/2/23 p. j. alling :
> If you're using film, forget about a meter with a Leica and learn the
> characteristics of Tri-X, Most of my shooting with the Spotmatic II
> and Tri-X was well beyond the metering capability of the camera.  In
> fact the first time I had a camera who's meter was even close to as
> good as a trained eye was my LX.  Heck man you're using film.
>
> By the way, since the resale value of used Leicas is pretty close to
> the purchase price, any good condition specimen that you buy is a
> bargain.  You can probably sell it for nearly as much as you paid for
> it.  Maybe more than you paid for it if you're lucky.
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Thibouille  wrote:
>> I slowly convinced myself I needed to try a Leica (was hard actually).
>> I don't wanna try alternatives *before* the M, if the M is nice but
>> doesn't justify the cost, I'll look into Voigtlander and such.
>>
>> So, fot those who indeed shot with an M, what should I look for?
>> Buying new is out of the question, and, let's say a lens might get
>> useful as well ;)
>> An M4 seems affordable but no meter. M6 is pricey at about 1000 euros.
>>
>> Mmm are brick and mortar dealer a more serious source for that kind of
>> cameras or Ebay is as good (scared of scams).
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> PS: Film rulez :)
>>
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Re: prices

[Doug Brewer]

On 2/23/12 3:51 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:


I seem to remember awhile back the PDML was being monitored by someone 
associated with KEH.


One of our former members, John Deloach, was an employee of KEH, but I 
don't think it had to do with monitoring the list.


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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 2/23/2012 12:51, Steven Desjardins wrote:

Of course, I was just going to write how much I like the blues and greens.


hah!  well - I did adjust it slightly (at 4pm Feb 23) .. I agreed with 
charles it was a bit TOO blue.


ann


On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Charles Robinson  wrote:


On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:39, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large



Nice, although I would like to see it with slightly warmer tones.  Seems very 
very blue.

  -Charles

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Re: GESO after dinner photo walk

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:58 AM, John Sessoms wrote:

> From: Larry Colen
> 
>> I've been in a bit of a photographic funk lately, not really excited
>> about anything I've gotten.  I tried to shake it off by going for a
>> walk around Pacific Ave in Santa Cruz after dinner, then a quick
>> drive down to the wharf.  While there isn't anything particularly
>> outstanding, I think I got a few entertaining shots.  It was nice
>> weather, so the hippies were out in force.  What's the collective
>> noun for hippies?  Tribe? Deadshow? Anyways, they actually had
>> someone pretty decent on the trumpet, so their impromptu bardic
>> circle on the sidewalk actually sounded better than most.
>> 
>> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629434946815/
>> 
>> I'd love to see what Knarf would do given a K-5 and a couple hours on
>> a warm night in Santa Cruz.
> 
> Hippies *is* the collective (i.e. plural) noun. "Hippie" when there's only 
> one of them.

It's good to have the definitive lexical source.

> 
> Although, technically it should always be preceded with the modifier OLD.
> 
> You don't really see REAL hippies anymore. The ones who are left kind of 
> blended into the background - camouflaged as it were. Most of us eventually 
> got married, got jobs, bought houses (joined the Army believe it or not) - 
> maybe had a lot of kids ... and too many started voting republican.
> 
> But if you want to find REAL hippies, look for old farts hanging around 
> together to the tune of John Prine, Tom Paxton, Phil Ochs ...

What's the matter with kids these days?  We had to make our tiedye with crushed 
berries and woad.

> 
> What you have just looked like a bunch of kids hanging out - something that 
> started long before hippiedom and will still be around long after the last of 
> us is gone.

This is Santa Cruz, where the sixties never ended.  Some of those kids are 
probably third generation hippies.

> 
> "ZA Y ART" would be the best, were it framed a little better.

Do tell?  How would I improve the framing?

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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

[Ann Sanfedele]

On 2/23/2012 12:58, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh

but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra

http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large


Like the photo!

Like the blues and greens, but it does seem just a hair more cyan than
it ought to be. ;-)

But I'm jealous that you got to the Bronx Zoo. I haven't been there in
at least 30 years! I went to High School basically right across the
street from the Zoo and used to go there often.


It has lost some of it's glow.. a few things better - but a lot not as 
nice.


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Re: prices

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On 2/23/2012 4:02 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

On 2/23/12 3:51 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote:


I seem to remember awhile back the PDML was being monitored by 
someone associated with KEH.


One of our former members, John Deloach, was an employee of KEH, but I 
don't think it had to do with monitoring the list.



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Re: Peso - they'll never find me here

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It is better.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
>
> On 2/23/2012 12:58, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>>
>>> Went to the zoo yesterday- had to get out...
>>> Didn't get much -- most stuff far too soft - spent
>>> frames upon frames on a bufflehead .. ugh
>>>
>>> but i was kinda pleased with this kookaburra
>>>
>>>
>>> http://annsan.smugmug.com/Works-in-Print/Works-In-Progress/More-Critters/15842756_C2Dvws/1/1722610272_GX8F6kX/Large
>>
>>
>> Like the photo!
>>
>> Like the blues and greens, but it does seem just a hair more cyan than
>> it ought to be. ;-)
>>
>> But I'm jealous that you got to the Bronx Zoo. I haven't been there in
>> at least 30 years! I went to High School basically right across the
>> street from the Zoo and used to go there often.
>
>
> It has lost some of it's glow.. a few things better - but a lot not as nice.
>
> ann
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Re: PESO: Winter Bloom

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On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:54 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

> Paul,
> Nice shot and well staged, good point of focus.
> I especially appreciated the uncluttered background.
> If the other orchid is a phalaenopsis like this one,
> put them both in ths same light and just wait.
> We have a bunch in a north facing bay window that bloom 
> regularly/continuously.
> If the other is a cattleya or dendrobium, it needs light and cold -
> forget about it!
> Regards,  Bob S.

Thanks Bob. Looking at the leaves, the two plants appear to be the same 
variety. It's been so long since the other one bloomed, I can't remember 
exactly what the flowers looked like, but I think they were similar in shape to 
these. They might have been fringed with lavender or magenta.  Both plants are 
h in a north window and growing in orchid planting material, so I'll just be 
patient and see if the other one eventually blooms. It has grown larger over 
the years. I water lightly once a week and fertilize lightly about once a month.
Paul

> 
> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  
> wrote:
>> I have two orchid plants. Both were blooming when purchased. One is now four 
>> years old and appears healthy but has never bloomed again. The other one is 
>> just a year old and bloomed this week for the first time. I shot a pic of a 
>> single bloom lit by the window behind it. A bit of distraction in the bokeh 
>> patterning but a nice bloom for a gray day.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15228726
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Cotty]

On 23/2/12, Charles Robinson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I thought of mentioning that but didn't want to sound greedy or creepy
>(or something).

Happy to oblige :)

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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Cotty]

On 23/2/12, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>That is a very graceful and appealing image.

Daniel J. Matyola, Master of Understatement  :))

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Re: PESO: Winter Bloom

[Jack Davis]

Nice do on the softening. Totally well done, Paul.

Jack


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Subject: PESO: Winter Bloom

I have two orchid plants. Both were blooming when purchased. One is now four 
years old and appears healthy but has never bloomed again. The other one is 
just a year old and bloomed this week for the first time. I shot a pic of a 
single bloom lit by the window behind it. A bit of distraction in the bokeh 
patterning but a nice bloom for a gray day.

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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[Cotty]

On 23/2/12, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed:

>It does sort of cry out for a vertical panorama

I think the point is that Dave wants to show us a photographically
aesthetic image, recorded with carefully placed and balanced lighting,
superbly executed framing, showing us all a respected and masterful
talent to which I'm sure most of us would readily admit to aspiring to
ourselves. On the other hand, I'd just like to see more thigh.

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Re: prices

[Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From Droid)]

The D1 will work with  AIS lenses? I've got some glass that I wish Icould play 
with more easily than messing with film.  I've got film bodies I'd rather play 
with than my Nikon bodies.


David J Brooks  wrote:

>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:52 PM, John Sessoms 
>wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let
>you look
>> at the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. I
>don't
>> and don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions for
>years
>> and years.
>
>Have not tried to look at these recently, but i know in the past, i
>have had little or no luck trying to access sold for prices, even with
>my account.:-(, but I'll try again.
>
>Not sure if either the D1 or K-10 will sell locally. I have no lenses
>to offer, just the bodies and that seems to be a sticky point for the
>sale.
>
>
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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

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Btw, if you look at the set, I did try a B&W treatment.

Walt Gilbert  wrote:

>On 2/23/2012 11:28 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>> Here's one that I just can't decide about:
>>>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-72157629070296314/
>>>
>>> A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my
>eye.
>>> I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the same
>>> interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I
>suspect
>>> that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put a fair
>>> amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
>actually a
>>> decent photo.
>> I think there's a good photo (probably B&W) in there somewhere but
>> you're going to have to work the subject more to find it. Experiment
>> with different camera angles and crops.
>>
>>
>Exactly what I was thinking. I downloaded the shot and did some 
>experimenting on it, but I don't know what the etiquette is on that
>sort 
>of thing; tweaking the work of others, etc. But, I do agree it could 
>become a more interesting photo -- most particularly in B/W.
>
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RE: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

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I am not a pipe.  

Bob W  wrote:

>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf
>Of
>> Larry Colen
>> 
>> Here's one that I just can't decide about:
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6776651850/in/set-
>> 72157629070296314/
>> 
>> A friend was doing his laundry yesterday, and this ducting caught my
>> eye.  I tried a few different things with it.  It's hard to get the
>> same interesting shade of orange I saw in the laundry room too.  I
>> suspect that it might just be a boring pile of shite, but since I put
>a
>> fair amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
>> actually a decent photo.
>> 
>
>Sometimes a pipe is just a pipe.
>
>> since I put a
>> fair amount of effort into it, I really want to believe that it's
>> actually a decent photo.
>
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Re: OT PESO - Figure (NSFW)

[John Sessoms]

You could be right, but I am NOT going to UN-subscribe.

From: "p. j. alling"


You obviously hang out with the wrong class of people...

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:16 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:

From: Paul Stenquist



I should amend my previous comment and say I find it a wee bit
oversaturated for my taste. Saturation is a subjective element. But I
would want to lose the vibrant red streaks in the hair and the red
tonality in the skin. But very nice work overall


I think that's probably really the color she's dyed her hair. I'm amazed
David could find a model her age with no visible tattoos.



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Re: GESO after dinner photo walk

[John Sessoms]

From: Larry Colen


On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:58 AM, John Sessoms wrote:



"ZA Y ART" would be the best, were it framed a little better.

Do tell?  How would I improve the framing?



Based on memory, since the link now produces a "No photos here..." 
message, and it "Couldn't find a user matching username 'ellarsee'" - I 
think much of the black space above and to the right is superfluous.


White space, or in this case black space, can be an important element, 
but it should bring the eye to the other elements. Here it doesn't.


So, get rid of everything that doesn't draw your eye into the main 
element of the image.


BTW, looking at the images in larger size, which I managed to figure out 
how to do after posting the previous, I think you may have found one 
hippie there - that older guy sitting by himself on the bench, playing 
guitar; almost hidden behind the rice rocket.


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Re: PESO Laundry Room, comments please

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

> "Comments please?" Not sure how indelicately I can put this, but it's
> crap. Acknowledge and move on. Time spent on this image could be
> better spent creating new images. No one is doing you any favors
> encouraging you to spend more time on it.

Thanks.  That's about what I suspected.  When they say that someone is their 
own worst critic, they don't just mean harshest, it's impossible for someone to 
look at their own work completely objectively.

> (This is only one man's
> opinion, however it is the correct one to hold).

Your humility is refreshing.

> :)
> 
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Live and learn

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Looks like my choice of the K-r for a commercial environment was not 
well-considered.  Initially I was going to be shooting cleaned parts.  But as 
time has gone on the situation has changed.  Now I'm handling parts that are 
still covered in tranny fluid.  And that has migrated to the camera.  A major 
frustration.  Some contamination has occurred -- probably transfer from my 
thumb to the camera controls.  The wheel/dial now goes only up, never down, in 
value.  So tomorrow it is going off to Pentax for (warranty) service.  In the 
mean time I'm going to dig up a K-5 (with extended warranty) for the main body 
and relegate the K-r to backup status.

I wish all camera functions could be controlled remotely, on a keypad built for 
a harsh environment.  Might be a great commercial solution ...

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Re: Live and learn

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I'm not even sure a K5 would survive.  I don't think weather sealing
if aimed at hydrocarbon based compounds which can react with plastic
or rubber components.  Maybe an assistant to handle the parts while
you handle the camera would work better.

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
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> Looks like my choice of the K-r for a commercial environment was not 
> well-considered.  Initially I was going to be shooting cleaned parts.  But as 
> time has gone on the situation has changed.  Now I'm handling parts that are 
> still covered in tranny fluid.  And that has migrated to the camera.  A major 
> frustration.  Some contamination has occurred -- probably transfer from my 
> thumb to the camera controls.  The wheel/dial now goes only up, never down, 
> in value.  So tomorrow it is going off to Pentax for (warranty) service.  In 
> the mean time I'm going to dig up a K-5 (with extended warranty) for the main 
> body and relegate the K-r to backup status.
>
> I wish all camera functions could be controlled remotely, on a keypad built 
> for a harsh environment.  Might be a great commercial solution ...
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Collin Brendemuehl
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Re: prices

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 4:49 PM, Larry Colen, l...@red4est.com (From
Droid)  wrote:
> The D1 will work with  AIS lenses? I've got some glass that I wish Icould 
> play with more easily than messing with film.  I've got film bodies I'd 
> rather play with than my Nikon bodies.

Don't know. I never really figured out all of Nikons old system. I
bought lenses i knew would work, never looked at the older ones, maybe
one of the other Nikon folks here can tell you.

Dave
>
>
> David J Brooks  wrote:
>
>>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:52 PM, John Sessoms 
>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know if they still do it, but for a while eBay wouldn't let
>>you look
>>> at the completed auctions unless you had an eBay ID and logged in. I
>>don't
>>> and don't want to, so I haven't tried to see completed auctions for
>>years
>>> and years.
>>
>>Have not tried to look at these recently, but i know in the past, i
>>have had little or no luck trying to access sold for prices, even with
>>my account.:-(, but I'll try again.
>>
>>Not sure if either the D1 or K-10 will sell locally. I have no lenses
>>to offer, just the bodies and that seems to be a sticky point for the
>>sale.
>>
>>
>>Dave
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Re: PESO: Winter Bloom

[David J Brooks]

Well done.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I have two orchid plants. Both were blooming when purchased. One is now four 
> years old and appears healthy but has never bloomed again. The other one is 
> just a year old and bloomed this week for the first time. I shot a pic of a 
> single bloom lit by the window behind it. A bit of distraction in the bokeh 
> patterning but a nice bloom for a gray day.
>
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Re: Live and learn

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>I'm not even sure a K5 would survive.  I don't think weather sealing
>if aimed at hydrocarbon based compounds which can react with plastic
>or rubber components.  Maybe an assistant to handle the parts while
>you handle the camera would work better.

Pentax did speak in terms of the camera handling a fluid environment as well as 
dust issues.  But still, I think I'm going to ask for hand cleaner & towels in 
my studio.  It's cheaper than constantly repairing cameras.

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Re: PESO - Bricks and Shadows

[David J Brooks]

Wow, thats a lot of bricks.

Dave

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM, George Sinos  wrote:
> The afternoon sun casts dramatic shadows along the downtown skyline. I
> particularly like this detail. This shadow only appears for a few
> weeks in the winter due to the orientation of the buildings and the
> low angle of the sun in the sky.
>
> This photo has been in my library since 2007. This version had been
> lightly reprocessed through Photomatix in an attempt to coax a little
> more detail out of the shadow area near the windows.  I had only
> bracketed plus or minus 1 stop.  At the time I hadn't planned on using
> HDR, I just bracketed because it seemed like a good idea.   I recently
> decided to give HDR a try to see what would happen.  I'm fairly happy
> with the outcome.
>
> 
>
> gs
>
> George Sinos
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Re: Live and learn

[Matthew Hunt]

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:50 PM, Collin Brendemuehl
 wrote:

> Pentax did speak in terms of the camera handling a fluid environment as well 
> as dust issues.  But still, I think I'm going to ask for hand cleaner & 
> towels in my studio.  It's cheaper than constantly repairing cameras.

Add a per-job surcharge for "shop supplies."

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Re: Live and learn

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/23/2012 4:50 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

I'm not even sure a K5 would survive.  I don't think weather sealing
if aimed at hydrocarbon based compounds which can react with plastic
or rubber components.  Maybe an assistant to handle the parts while
you handle the camera would work better.

Pentax did speak in terms of the camera handling a fluid environment as well as 
dust issues.  But still, I think I'm going to ask for hand cleaner&  towels in 
my studio.  It's cheaper than constantly repairing cameras.

Sincerely,

Collin Brendemuehl
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose"
-- Jim Elliott

Maybe you can talk them into getting you one of these babies:

http://www.harborfreight.com/garage-shop/parts-washers.html

They're always handy.

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Re:Leica M but which one?

[Jim King]

Thibouille wrote on Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:21:15 -0800

> I slowly convinced myself I needed to try a Leica (was hard actually).
> I don't wanna try alternatives *before* the M, if the M is nice but
> doesn't justify the cost, I'll look into Voigtlander and such.
> 
> So, fot those who indeed shot with an M, what should I look for?
> Buying new is out of the question, and, let's say a lens might get
> useful as well ;)
> An M4 seems affordable but no meter. M6 is pricey at about 1000 euros.
> 
> Mmm are brick and mortar dealer a more serious source for that kind of
> cameras or Ebay is as good (scared of scams).
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> PS: Film rulez :)

I've found that Leicas on eBay tend to be overpriced.  I suggest that you check 
the RFF (Rangefinder Forum) and GetDPI Forum "For Sale" sections as well.  Lurk 
for a while to see what turns up...

Regards, Jim

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RE: Leica M but which one?

[Bob W]

> I slowly convinced myself I needed to try a Leica (was hard actually).
> I don't wanna try alternatives *before* the M, if the M is nice but
> doesn't justify the cost, I'll look into Voigtlander and such.
> 
> So, fot those who indeed shot with an M, what should I look for?
> Buying new is out of the question, and, let's say a lens might get
> useful as well ;)
> An M4 seems affordable but no meter. M6 is pricey at about 1000 euros.
> 
> Mmm are brick and mortar dealer a more serious source for that kind of
> cameras or Ebay is as good (scared of scams).
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> PS: Film rulez :)

I have an M3 and had an M4-2 for several years as well. There isn't much to
choose between them. In your position I think the best thing to do would be
buy whatever is least expensive and in decent user condition. I would not
buy one of eBay because there are chop & paste jobs out there and you have
no comeback if you end up with a dog. I've bought all my Leica stuff from
reputable dealers, and even so I once ended up with a real pig of a lens
that I eventually threw in the bin.

The principal differences between the different types of M are detailed in
many places, but essentially come down to the number of framelines,
viewfinder magnification, film loading system, ability to use a winder, and
a couple of other things. M4-2s are less highly thought of than the
German-made cameras, but frankly it doesn't really matter. With M3s there's
a difference between 2-stroke and 1-stroke shutter levers (they're not
petrol-driven, it's what you have to do to wind the film on). 1-stroke is
easier to use.

I agree with whoever suggested buying a meterless M.

B


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Re: Live and learn

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Collin Brendemuehl wrote:

> Looks like my choice of the K-r for a commercial environment was not 
> well-considered.  Initially I was going to be shooting cleaned parts.  But as 
> time has gone on the situation has changed.  Now I'm handling parts that are 
> still covered in tranny fluid.  And that has migrated to the camera.  A major 
> frustration.  Some contamination has occurred -- probably transfer from my 
> thumb to the camera controls.  The wheel/dial now goes only up, never down, 
> in value.  So tomorrow it is going off to Pentax for (warranty) service.  In 
> the mean time I'm going to dig up a K-5 (with extended warranty) for the main 
> body and relegate the K-r to backup status.
> 
> I wish all camera functions could be controlled remotely, on a keypad built 
> for a harsh environment.  Might be a great commercial solution ...

You could probably do a bit with ziplock bags, clear packing tape, screen 
protectors or some variation of the above.
I'd also recommend picking up an IR shutter release, and maybe some latex 
gloves for when you're handling parts.

What's the difference between a Surgeon and a mechanic?
The surgeon washes his hands *after* he pees.

> 

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Re: Leica M but which one?

[Larry Colen]

Light meters are for sissies.

On Feb 23, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Thibouille wrote:

> I slowly convinced myself I needed to try a Leica (was hard actually).
> I don't wanna try alternatives *before* the M, if the M is nice but
> doesn't justify the cost, I'll look into Voigtlander and such.
> 
> So, fot those who indeed shot with an M, what should I look for?
> Buying new is out of the question, and, let's say a lens might get
> useful as well ;)
> An M4 seems affordable but no meter. M6 is pricey at about 1000 euros.
> 
> Mmm are brick and mortar dealer a more serious source for that kind of
> cameras or Ebay is as good (scared of scams).
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> PS: Film rulez :)
> 
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Re: PESO - Bricks and Shadows

[Doug Franklin]

On 2012-02-23 13:49, George Sinos wrote:





I like it.  It almost has a feeling of being a painting.

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Re: Live and learn

[Collin Brendemuehl]

>You could probably do a bit with ziplock bags, clear packing tape, screen 
>>protectors or some variation of the above.
>I'd also recommend picking up an IR shutter release, and maybe some latex 
>>gloves for when you're handling parts.

I have the IR release.  It has been quite helpful.  Latex gloves would be too 
much or a hassle, though they are available.
I'm still leaning towards some hand cleaner and paper towels.  It seems 
simplest.

Sincerely, 

Collin Brendemuehl 
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PESO "Where are you?"

[Larry Colen]

Just for fun.  Snapped this on my way home from lunch:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6778147608/in/set-72157629439805329

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Re: PESO - Bricks and Shadows

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/23/2012 4:50 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Wow, thats a lot of bricks.

Dave
That's what I was thinking. I've never seen anything quite like it and 
wondered if my eyes were playing tricks on me.


-- Walt



On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:49 PM, George Sinos  wrote:

The afternoon sun casts dramatic shadows along the downtown skyline. I
particularly like this detail. This shadow only appears for a few
weeks in the winter due to the orientation of the buildings and the
low angle of the sun in the sky.

This photo has been in my library since 2007. This version had been
lightly reprocessed through Photomatix in an attempt to coax a little
more detail out of the shadow area near the windows.  I had only
bracketed plus or minus 1 stop.  At the time I hadn't planned on using
HDR, I just bracketed because it seemed like a good idea.   I recently
decided to give HDR a try to see what would happen.  I'm fairly happy
with the outcome.



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Re: PESO "Where are you?"

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/23/2012 5:25 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

Just for fun.  Snapped this on my way home from lunch:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6778147608/in/set-72157629439805329

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Ha! That's just too cool.

Did you happen to see Daphne around, by any chance?

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Re: OT: What to see in southeastern Australia? (Melbourne/Sydney)

[David Savage]

Get out of the small states (NSW, Tas & Vic)  everything is a long way
from anything.

On 24 February 2012 00:33, Stan Halpin  wrote:
> A travel/adventure writer, Bill Bryson, has done a series of books including 
> hitchhiking in Europe, through-hiking the Appalachian Trail, and traveling 
> through Australia. I thought the Australia book was a good read. I 
> particularly enjoyed his description of Canberra, and having read it I was 
> spared a shock; Canberra is unlike any other city you are ever likely to 
> visit. I was in Canberra briefly, Sunday evening through Thursday morning, at 
> the tail end of a working trip that included stops in (and PDML meetings in) 
> Adelaide, Melbourne, and Sydney. I think Canberra is worth the trip for the 
> art museum alone, the tour of the Parliament building was an added extra. 
> Don't expect any nightlife! And there is always a time-distance and 
> travel-mode tradeoff; Canberra: a) was built for cars; and b) was situated a 
> long way from Melbourne, Sydney, and anything else of importance in the 
> country. Se getting there and getting around may cost more time than you are 
> willing/able to spend.
>
> stan
>
> On Feb 22, 2012, at 12:46 AM, John Celio wrote:
>
>> I know there are a few Aussies here, so I hope you don't mind if I
>> pick your brains for a moment.
>>
>> I'm going to be in Australia this coming May for work, and I'm taking
>> some time after that's done to do some traveling. The work stuff is in
>> Melbourne, and then I'll have lots of time on my own to do whatever I
>> want until my flight home takes off two weeks later from Sydney.
>>
>> I'm planning on backpacking around, staying in hostels and such to
>> keep the costs down, so I'm trying to put together a list of things to
>> see and places to do some photography that are interesting but not too
>> touristy.
>>
>> (Honestly, part of me wants to buy a cheap used bicycle and just bike
>> everywhere, but that may be unrealistic with all the crap I'll
>> probably have to lug around.)
>>
>> Anyway! If you had two weeks to get from Melbourne to Sydney, no car
>> and no one else you had to worry about, where would you go? Also,
>> what's the weather like there in May?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> John
>>
>> P.S.: This is my first time doing any sort of solo, low-cost traveling
>> like this, so any general traveling tips would be immensely
>> appreciated.

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Re: PESO - Bricks and Shadows

[Darren Addy]

What a *terrific* image! Well done on the HDR, sir.

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Re: PESO "Where are you?"

[David J Brooks]

Rats rat

Dave

On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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Re: PESO "Where are you?"

[Darren Addy]

Did you give him a Scooby Snack in exchange for signing a model release?

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