Re: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi 2

2017-08-06 Thread King Beowulf 
On 08/06/2017 03:39 PM, Michael Robinson wrote:
> Do I need a physical Raspberry Pi 2 to test software developed for
> it that doesn't compile on the Raspberry Pi 3 or is there a way on
> my AMD based 64 bit Fedora 26 system to emulate a Raspberry Pi 2?
> 
> Of course the proprietary software in question which I will not describe
> in any detail, don't ask, apparently doesn't compile on
> the 3.  The code is C code.
> 

You will want to run the RPI operating system (Raspbian or whatever), as
a virtual machine via either Virtualbox or qemu.  This wont help you
with hardware issues, but can assist in locating software issues and
compatibility when compiling software.

For example:

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29=175454


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Re: [PLUG] Raspberry Pi 2

2017-08-06 Thread Cryptomonkeys.org 
You should be able to use QEMU to emulate ARM platforms. Be warned, its *very* 
slow.


> On Aug 6, 2017, at 5:39 PM, Michael Robinson  
> wrote:
> 
> Do I need a physical Raspberry Pi 2 to test software developed for
> it that doesn't compile on the Raspberry Pi 3 or is there a way on
> my AMD based 64 bit Fedora 26 system to emulate a Raspberry Pi 2?
> 
> Of course the proprietary software in question which I will not describe
> in any detail, don't ask, apparently doesn't compile on
> the 3.  The code is C code.
> 
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Re: [PLUG] Libre Office Writer Version: 5.1.6.2 and curly quotes

2017-08-06 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> I'll disagree with the suggestion to use Lyx, but only because Joe said
> that he needed to do college papers. For academic writing today you are
> in a world of pain doing citations and the references section unless
> you have either Zotero or Mendeley, and both work only with LO/OO or MS
> Word.

John,

   I did not mean to be harsh in my response, but LaTeX/LyX and bibtex (or
biblatex) are very heavily used in academia. Take a look at it.

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] Libre Office Writer Version: 5.1.6.2 and curly quotes

2017-08-06 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> I'll disagree with the suggestion to use Lyx, but only because Joe said
> that he needed to do college papers. For academic writing today you are in
> a world of pain doing citations and the references section unless you have
> either Zotero or Mendeley, and both work only with LO/OO or MS Word. Of
> course, if you want the superior typesetting of Lyx you could write the
> paper complete with citations and references in LO/OO, then copy and paste
> it all into Lyx.

John,

   That's absolute nonsense. Look at bibtex
. It is what most academics (faculty
and students) use to write research papers they submit to journals? I used
bibtex for the citations in my book published by Springer in 2005 (submitted
as camera-ready typeset copy; their TeXpert added the first few pages after
the half-title), and I use it in every white paper with reference citations
or bibliographies. It's what I used in my article published last year in the
on-line Journal of Regulatory Science.

   Academics also use it for Masters theses and doctoral dissertations, both
of which include references or bibliographies. The scientific reference
database I use is called JabRef  and it will insert
the citation and reference in my LyX document at the click of an icon.

   If you want to automate tables (of contents, figures, and tables), index
creation, biblography or references, and cross-references (e.g., 'see Figure
n on page y') you use LyX (or LaTeX). And, yes, there are classes for
linguistics as there are for almost every subject in the natural and social
sciences, business, engineering, music, and more.

   Donald Knuth (UC Berkeley) wrote TeX in the 1970s because there was no
writing tool available (incluing troff, groff, and their relatives) that
typeset mathematical equations beautifully. TeX/LaTeX/LyX still does this
better than any word processor.

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] Libre Office Writer Version: 5.1.6.2 and curly quotes

2017-08-06 Thread John Jason Jordan 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017 14:34:48 -0700 (PDT)
Rich Shepard  dijo:

>On Sun, 6 Aug 2017, Joe Shisei Niski wrote:
>
>> It seems that once upon a time (circa version 4 or so), LO Writer
>> supported so-called curly or "smart" quotes,
>
>My experience is that this form of quotation mark is
>typeface-dependent. Not all typefaces support them or true small caps
>or true Italic fonts (rather than slanted.) Try selecting a different
>typeface ("font") in LO and see if that supplies them.

I can add that typesetter quotes are alive and well in my LibreOffice
4.2.8.2 on Xubuntu 14.04. I might also add that I have long been in awe
of how well it works. The only time it makes a mistake is when typing
something like 'twas, where it thinks the ' should be an open quote
although, in this case it must be a closed quote.

>> My use is for non-technical college papers and business
>> correspondence, so Tex- based tools area bit of overkil.

>I'll disagree with this. Have you used LyX ? The
>KOMA-script article, report, book, and letter2 classes provide great
>defaults and you can select your default body text typeface to one that
>provides curly quotes.

I'll disagree with the suggestion to use Lyx, but only because Joe said
that he needed to do college papers. For academic writing today you are
in a world of pain doing citations and the references section unless
you have either Zotero or Mendeley, and both work only with LO/OO or MS
Word. Of course, if you want the superior typesetting of Lyx you could
write the paper complete with citations and references in LO/OO, then
copy and paste it all into Lyx. 
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[PLUG] Raspberry Pi 2

2017-08-06 Thread Michael Robinson 
Do I need a physical Raspberry Pi 2 to test software developed for
it that doesn't compile on the Raspberry Pi 3 or is there a way on
my AMD based 64 bit Fedora 26 system to emulate a Raspberry Pi 2?

Of course the proprietary software in question which I will not describe
in any detail, don't ask, apparently doesn't compile on
the 3.  The code is C code.

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Re: [PLUG] Libre Office Writer Version: 5.1.6.2 and curly quotes

2017-08-06 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Sun, 6 Aug 2017, Joe Shisei Niski wrote:

> It seems that once upon a time (circa version 4 or so), LO Writer
> supported so-called curly or "smart" quotes,

Joe,

   My experience is that this form of quotation mark is typeface-dependent.
Not all typefaces support them or true small caps or true Italic fonts
(rather than slanted.) Try selecting a different typeface ("font") in LO and
see if that supplies them.

> My use is for non-technical college papers and business correspondence, so
> Tex- based tools area bit of overkil.

   I'll disagree with this. Have you used LyX ? The
KOMA-script article, report, book, and letter2 classes provide great
defaults and you can select your default body text typeface to one that
provides curly quotes.

   If you compare a typeset page with a processed word page of the same
content, typeface and font (e.g., 10pt Roman) you'll notice the differences
immediately. You might not identify why they look different but the typeset
page looks like any professional document rather than a word processed one.
The subtle differences affect how readers respond to what they read:
positively.

Rich
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Re: [PLUG] Ethernet connection dropping

2017-08-06 Thread Dick Steffens 
On 08/06/2017 08:29 AM, Dick Steffens wrote:
> On 08/05/2017 11:56 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
>> "Dick" == Dick Steffens  writes:
>>
>> Dick> Two times over the last three days my machine has dropped its
>> Dick> Ethernet connection. It doesn't say it's dropped, but I can't see
>> Dick> beyond the machine, not even other machines in the house. Using
>> Dick> the widget on the top bar on the Ubuntu MATE 16.04 screen I
>> Dick> manually drop and then reconnect, and all is well again.
>>
>> Dick> I've never had this happen on other machines running various
>> Dick> versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas on where to look to see why the
>> Dick> connection is dropping?
>>
>> Do you still have a dhcp lease?  That is, is there a reasonable ip
>> address attached to the interface?  Do you have a link?  When you say
>> "dropped" does that mean to anywhere?  Do you have a default route?
>

Dropped again. Here are the results of ifconfig:

rsteff@ENU-2:~$ sudo ifconfig
[sudo] password for rsteff:
enp0s31f6 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 70:8b:cd:7f:0c:56
   inet6 addr: fe80::aff0:732b:5508:6fb5/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:6750853 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:4152265 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:6321412070 (6.3 GB)  TX bytes:867072229 (867.0 MB)
   Interrupt:16 Memory:f710-f712

loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
   RX packets:304784 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:304784 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:30561735 (30.5 MB)  TX bytes:30561735 (30.5 MB)

 From that I conclude that I don't have a dhcp lease. The lease is 
renewed by clicking on the Wired Connection 1 line in the drop down menu 
called Ethernet Network.

rsteff@ENU-2:~$ sudo ifconfig
enp0s31f6 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 70:8b:cd:7f:0c:56
   inet addr:192.168.0.134  Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
   inet6 addr: fe80::aff0:732b:5508:6fb5/64 Scope:Link
   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
   RX packets:6752256 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:4153960 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:6321770679 (6.3 GB)  TX bytes:867335636 (867.3 MB)
   Interrupt:16 Memory:f710-f712

loLink encap:Local Loopback
   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
   inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:65536  Metric:1
   RX packets:306131 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
   TX packets:306131 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
   collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
   RX bytes:30680298 (30.6 MB)  TX bytes:30680298 (30.6 MB)

Using the Google FOO:

ubuntu MATE 16.04 loses dhcp lease

I found this:

https://superuser.com/questions/1087359/occasionally-losing-wired-lan-connection-on-ubuntu-16-04

I have to leave in a few minutes, but I'll pursue that further when I 
get back.

Thanks for the pointer to dhcp lease.

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[PLUG] Libre Office Writer Version: 5.1.6.2 and curly quotes

2017-08-06 Thread Joe Shisei Niski 
It seems that once upon a time (circa version 4 or so), LO Writer 
supported so-called  curly or "smart" quotes, easily configurable via 
Tools/Autocorrect. Version 5.1.6 retains those menu commands, but they 
appear to have no effect. Searching around the net hasn't revealed much 
beyond macros in LO's knockoff of Visual Basic scripting. Can anyone 
enlighten me on this? my use is for non-technical college papers and 
business correspondence,  so Tex- based tools area bit of overkil.

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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Re: [PLUG] Ethernet connection dropping

2017-08-06 Thread fredjame 
Just a note.
I found out this week that the DHCP client in Linux eventually times out
trying to get a lease.  These machines won't recovery without manual
intervention unless there is a watchdog set.

On Aug 6, 2017 8:32 AM, "Dick Steffens"  wrote:

> On 08/05/2017 11:56 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
> > "Dick" == Dick Steffens  writes:
> >
> > Dick> Two times over the last three days my machine has dropped its
> > Dick> Ethernet connection. It doesn't say it's dropped, but I can't see
> > Dick> beyond the machine, not even other machines in the house. Using
> > Dick> the widget on the top bar on the Ubuntu MATE 16.04 screen I
> > Dick> manually drop and then reconnect, and all is well again.
> >
> > Dick> I've never had this happen on other machines running various
> > Dick> versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas on where to look to see why the
> > Dick> connection is dropping?
> >
> > Do you still have a dhcp lease?  That is, is there a reasonable ip
> > address attached to the interface?  Do you have a link?  When you say
> > "dropped" does that mean to anywhere?  Do you have a default route?
>
> Good questions. Next time it happens I'll check those. And yes,
> "dropped" does mean to anywhere. I have two other machines on my desk
> that it cannot see. They all go through the same switch to get to the
> router. I didn't check both, but I had no trouble getting out to the
> Internet with one of them.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dick Steffens

 Both under my last two ISP's (Verizon.com and Primus.ca) and my current ISP 
(Bell.ca), I did experience  DHCP issues and drops, until I stopped allowing 
the ISP set the DNS, and hard coded  for Google DNS IP's ... very little 
trouble after that.

But your descriptons make me think either faulty cable  or NIC
Regards
Fred James


 
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Re: [PLUG] Ethernet connection dropping

2017-08-06 Thread Larry Brigman 
Just a note.
I found out this week that the DHCP client in Linux eventually times out
trying to get a lease.  These machines won't recovery without manual
intervention unless there is a watchdog set.

On Aug 6, 2017 8:32 AM, "Dick Steffens"  wrote:

> On 08/05/2017 11:56 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
> > "Dick" == Dick Steffens  writes:
> >
> > Dick> Two times over the last three days my machine has dropped its
> > Dick> Ethernet connection. It doesn't say it's dropped, but I can't see
> > Dick> beyond the machine, not even other machines in the house. Using
> > Dick> the widget on the top bar on the Ubuntu MATE 16.04 screen I
> > Dick> manually drop and then reconnect, and all is well again.
> >
> > Dick> I've never had this happen on other machines running various
> > Dick> versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas on where to look to see why the
> > Dick> connection is dropping?
> >
> > Do you still have a dhcp lease?  That is, is there a reasonable ip
> > address attached to the interface?  Do you have a link?  When you say
> > "dropped" does that mean to anywhere?  Do you have a default route?
>
> Good questions. Next time it happens I'll check those. And yes,
> "dropped" does mean to anywhere. I have two other machines on my desk
> that it cannot see. They all go through the same switch to get to the
> router. I didn't check both, but I had no trouble getting out to the
> Internet with one of them.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dick Steffens
>
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Re: [PLUG] Ethernet connection dropping

2017-08-06 Thread Dick Steffens 
On 08/05/2017 11:56 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
> "Dick" == Dick Steffens  writes:
>
> Dick> Two times over the last three days my machine has dropped its
> Dick> Ethernet connection. It doesn't say it's dropped, but I can't see
> Dick> beyond the machine, not even other machines in the house. Using
> Dick> the widget on the top bar on the Ubuntu MATE 16.04 screen I
> Dick> manually drop and then reconnect, and all is well again.
>
> Dick> I've never had this happen on other machines running various
> Dick> versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas on where to look to see why the
> Dick> connection is dropping?
>
> Do you still have a dhcp lease?  That is, is there a reasonable ip
> address attached to the interface?  Do you have a link?  When you say
> "dropped" does that mean to anywhere?  Do you have a default route?

Good questions. Next time it happens I'll check those. And yes, 
"dropped" does mean to anywhere. I have two other machines on my desk 
that it cannot see. They all go through the same switch to get to the 
router. I didn't check both, but I had no trouble getting out to the 
Internet with one of them.

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Dick Steffens

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Re: [PLUG] Fonts not visible to upgraded LibreOffice-5.4.0

2017-08-06 Thread Rich Shepard 
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017, John Jason Jordan wrote:

> LO dropped support for Type 1 fonts - I was unaware of this, but I just
> checked and sure enough, none of my Type 1 fonts can be selected in
> Writer (4.2.8.2 on Xubuntu 14.04). Fortunately I rarely use them any
> more, and they still appear in Scribus.

   Here's another (untested) solution posted in response to my thread on
linuxquestions.org:

"You can switch to the old engine in the menu: Tools > Options > Advanced.
Then click Open Expert Configuration, search for TextLayoutEngine, and
double-click the result ? change it to "old", save and restart LibreOffice."

   Today I'm converting all Type1d and TrueType fonts to OTF using the 2015
version of fontforge.

Rich

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Re: [PLUG] Ethernet connection dropping

2017-08-06 Thread Russell Senior 
> "Dick" == Dick Steffens  writes:

Dick> Two times over the last three days my machine has dropped its
Dick> Ethernet connection. It doesn't say it's dropped, but I can't see
Dick> beyond the machine, not even other machines in the house. Using
Dick> the widget on the top bar on the Ubuntu MATE 16.04 screen I
Dick> manually drop and then reconnect, and all is well again.

Dick> I've never had this happen on other machines running various
Dick> versions of Ubuntu. Any ideas on where to look to see why the
Dick> connection is dropping?

Do you still have a dhcp lease?  That is, is there a reasonable ip
address attached to the interface?  Do you have a link?  When you say
"dropped" does that mean to anywhere?  Do you have a default route?


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