Re: [OT] Show Time

2008-11-04 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Leland F. Jackson, CPA wrote:
 Tomorrow, November, 4 2008 is show time, so everybody get out and 
 exercise your right to vote, if you haven't already.


Naaahhh! Go fishing lads! Enjoy!





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RE: Anyone with experience with touch screen technology?

2008-11-04 Thread Allen
That's a good point. Maybe one of those led projected keyboards would be
better. Pity there is not LED projected user defined device that can
projects buttons
Al 

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Just did a web app on one for our shipping system.  Users liked it for
ease of use.

No real data on how long they will live.  Fingers hitting the same
buttons over and over?  When will it break down and is that cost
acceptable because you took the mouse out of the interface?



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RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Adam Buckland
What is your source for this claim?



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This moron said his grandmother lived through 2 world wars.   

SHE WAS BORN IN 1922.  The Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919.



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Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)

2008-11-04 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 3:45 AM, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bottom line, I can't bring myself to learn that messy shit. ;-)


 I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant
 do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app? As a database
 developer where forms are pre-designed and we know what to expect in
 advance I see a webapp as utterly pointless. Browsers are incredibly
 flexible - so use them for flexible applications. Databases are
 definately NOT flexible apps so don t use them in browsers. Seems
 obvious to me.
---
What?  a db is just a service that your application calls.  It is data
storage and some rules.

A web app has the power of change.  Quick change, across the world
with very little impact on your infrastructure when you do.  The
ability to add another language allowing your app to open up another
market is easy in a web environment.

CSS to control the look of your site is fantastic.  Making a change in
that layout will save you from hitting every form in your winform
system.

AJAX for visual correction of a true C/S feel for your app.



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Sr. Production Systems Programmer
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RE: [NF] VMWare of other Virtualization software

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
I have been using Parallels with several Mac OS X platforms, and have
decided to give VMWare a try.  I believe Ed migrated to VMWare Mac from
Parallels, not certain right now, but seems to me he did.  I tested VMWare
for Linux and had excellent results, First Time Go and no strange setup or
conf issues.  It just worked, no fuss, no muss.  VirtualBox from Sun works
well under Linux also, and is free, but I did have a few setup and config
issues to deal with.  Once done it was fine.  I have used M$ Virtual PC
under Windows, and for other M$ OS platforms it works well.  It used to work
with Linspire Linux as a guest OS until a Service Pack, and later a newer
release, took care of that little destabilizing problem for M$.  But for a
free solution where I need to test my apps under different flavors of
Windows it has worked out great.

But, to your point, I do not know if there is anything better than VMWare
unto itself.  I do know that whenever I have tested VMWare out I have been
pleased.  But in my world if I can get an adequate VM solution for free (M$
Virtual PC and Sun VirtualBox), I will use it.  But if I were to have to
plunk down a few bucks and bet on the best bang for the bucks, I would be
inclined to use VMWare.  For Mac Host OS I have found a few too many goofy
issues with Parallels, and seen a lot of End User rating where folks rave
about VMWare after having used Parallels first.

My 5 cents...

Gil

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 Hi All,

 I am about to setup a machine with VMWare GSX for testing.  This
 apparently
 allows booting into multiple operations systems simultaneously, without
 having to rely on any particular one as the host OS.

 Just wondering if anyone else has any experience of Machine Virtualization
 software and whether there are any other better packages out there.

 Nick



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RE: Anyone with experience with touch screen technology?

2008-11-04 Thread Jack Skelley
Good Morning Mike:
I wrote an extensive real time stats reporting system using a touch screen as 
the hand eye coordination is better when pointing with a finger  verses 
pointing and clicking with a mouse when 10 skaters are screaming off the ice at 
the same time. I use Panasonic Toughbooks with touch screens for this 
application and they work well and are very durable. When our stats person 
journeys across the river to the NY Rangers house some of their fans try to 
pour beer into the keyboard from above the press box...she just shakes the beer 
out and continues. What a waste of a fine beverage...
The system has been running for about 2 years and here is what I found:
1.  make the objects large enough so a finger can select the object; however I 
recommend a stylus of some type
2. 'play' with the click sensitivity so an unwanted click does not register; 
the selection should be the result of definite tap and not a brush of the 
screen but not so hard that the user has to fight the click.
3. because the users will take to the touch screen like a duck to water they 
will make selections very quickly; I have found that if you place and audible 
feedback on the key the user gets a positive feedback when the selection is 
made. Sometimes a user's touch is too light and it does not register. The 
audible feedback in my app is selectable on/off and the user has a choice of 
sounds it makes...I believe that quick selections are a function of the mouse 
driver lag
4.  avoid if possible a right click on an object; right clicks usually involve 
holding down the ctrl key and making a click
5.  void is possible a click and drag with tiny objects for obvious reasons
6. add some easy access to certain controls; for example on a combobox 
selection I drop the box for the user when it has focus so it saves a selection 
on a tiny dropdown arrow
I hope this was of some help.
Regards,

Jack Skelley


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Any pitfalls, tips etc.

TIA,
Mike


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Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)

2008-11-04 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/4/08, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So you have to learn XHTML, CSS, Javascript, how they integrate, plus
 some php (?). Add to that the lovely little traps Billy has set in IE.


You can choose to learn nothing new.

XHTML is fairly simple, and consistent. CSS is downright elegant, once
you get your head around it. Javascript is quite a powerful language.

There are some messy tricks sometimes, far less now than there were a
while ago. But if you've hacked report writer DBFs or used the phantom
records, you've done tricks equally intricate.

 Hmmm. Get Python and it runs on those three. And you only have to learn
 one language (and it is a pleasurable experience).

Unless you want a UI. Then you need to learn wx. (Or Qt, or...) and
then a report writer language. And the SQL/DDL for the database.
There's always parts.

VFP integrated in a DDL,  low-level file functions, interface
terminology, a merge (template) language and SQL _into_ VFP and
claimed it was all one language. Was it one language or one product
with several domain-specific languages integrated into it? It's an
angels-on-a-pin argument for linguists, perhaps, but the point is that
you're always integrating in different pieces that have to be handled
their own way, whether that's Stonefield's Data Dictionary with
CodeBook with Mac's PowerTools and Tim Rettig's utilities.

Or XHTML, CSS and Javascript.

 Yes, a beautiful back end. And so user friendly. Especially when you
 have to interact with data.

A lot of people seem to have no problem operating Amazon.

 But you'd better design your ui with cellphones in mind, or it will be a
 pain. Same thing with desktops.

Separate structure from markup, just as you separate business objects
from UI logic. New mobile devices supporting standards like XHTML-MP
(Mobile Profile) and libraries to detect and render it abstract away a
lot of the complexity of doing that.

 And more! It outputs a well-defined text format that can
 be indexed, sorted, cross-referenced and made to be part of a greater
 whole.

 You mean a grid?

No, XML, a document, easily internationalized, recognized and
validatable standard format. Entire documents can be downloaded,
parsed, analyzed and categorized for content, keywords and, with the
Semantic Web, meaning so that your site can advertise itself to search
engines.


 There's room for many solutions to our many challenges.


 I know. I just dislike all the hassle and integration of disparate
 things you have to do with web apps.

And desktop apps are different? You have to bring down and create the
data structures (or ODBC to connect to a remote backend), bring down
your supporting runtimes, ActiveX controls, register your apps and COM
interfaces on the Registry, get a shortcut on the desktop and the
Start Menu...

  If I need my app to reach far away
 places I can always do it with a desktop app and web services or a
 desktop app in a VPN depending on the requirements.

So, now you're writing a web services app and a desktop app?

 And if you'd like all the world to run your app, you can make it
 available for download and provide the web service.

And do you think that everyone on the Internet should download things
they find up on the Internet and install them on their desktop
machines? Most corporate desktops are locked to prevent just that.

Given a choice between a lightweight web page and a 20-30 Mb download
to install, which would you prefer?

 I give it to you that nowadays you'll have much better success with a
 WWW app with the general public. But I think business might eventually
 go the other way.

Again, it depends on the application and your target market.

 Bottom line, I can't bring myself to learn that messy shit. ;-)

That's an interesting perspective.

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Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)

2008-11-04 Thread Ted Roche
On 11/4/08, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 in a business model deploying a well written database app isnt hard.
 in fact if well done it should be pretty easy.

Geoff: What do you mean by in a business model?

I had a client with 28,000 desktops. Deploying (through large-scale,
scripted, well-tested mechanisms) is a big deal.

 Not as easy as a
 browser granted but its hardly a compelling advantage.

  As a database
  developer where forms are pre-designed and we know what to expect in
  advance I see a webapp as utterly pointless.

Don't your apps change? Need a new field? Get a new translation? Most
of the clients I work with have ongoing, evolving business needs.

In a lot of cases I'd agree - there's far too much 'hey let's make
everything run in the browser!'.

  Databases are
  definately NOT flexible apps so don t use them in browsers.

If databases are not flexible enough to run website, what do you
expect them to use? Take, for example, the CNN web site. Or Slashdot.
Or Amazon. Should they not be using a database?

 I kinda meant REAL databases not a dinky mysql setup with a handle of
 userid/password tables or a blog

My WordPress install uses 12 tables with PKs and FKs. Is that Real?
One of the photo-gallery apps uses 53. One of my world-class web apps
uses on 27 tables, although some of the tables have millions of rows?
What qualifies as REAL?

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RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Larry Miller
Check your history book.

Larry Miller


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This moron said his grandmother lived through 2 world wars.   

SHE WAS BORN IN 1922.  The Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919.







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RE: [OT] If Obama's grandmother is really dying, where are the grandchildren?

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
He should feel like a dick for not letting his daughters say goodbye to his 
grandmother.


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 You should feel a real dick now... but I bet you don't
 
 
 
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 If Obama's grandmother is really dying, where are the
 grandchildren?
 Don't they get to see grandma before she passes?  Why
 aren't they there?
 could it be that she's not really dying?  Why isn't
 she in a hospital?
 
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RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
I watched it on the news.  I'll try to find a clip of it.

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RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Here it is.  A real student of history the Kenyan is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWYZzP5zDUE

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Re: [NF] RE: Printer recomendation

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Dave Thayer wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Gil Hale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Blast it all!  The HP 3600n is back at its new retail price of $500,
even on
 the HP site.  I KNEW I should have purchased 2 more than I did.  At
$250 it
 cost 50% to buy the entire printer with fully charged toners (no cheap
 starter toners with the 3600n units) than to replace the 4 toner
 cartridges!  Oh well, next time they drop in price like that I will get 2
 more...

 Newegg's got 'em for $275 http://tinyurl.com/24zscl

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16828104391

 No mention of the shipping charges, which is unusual for Newegg. At 60
 lbs, they might charge differently depending upon your zipcode.


Wow...that sounds like a GREAT deal!  I'm tempted to buy one even though
at present I don't need it





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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread mike
I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the IRS. 
Dont quote me in that though.
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Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
to know.

tia,
--Michael





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Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread geoff
Im just getting a handle on .NET and started looking at LINQ. didnt 
like it so glad I can ignore it. Then again I looked at EF. Dont 
understand it so that doesnt sound like an advantage either.

At 08:27 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote:
In terms of take-up, Linq is still a minnow - it's no COM or OLEDB. In
that sense deprecating it has less of an impact even though it's
exasperating to have to evaluate a whole new ball of wax in the Entity
Framework. They need to rein themselves in and get a bit of focus
instead of trying to cover all the bases.

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Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Bourke

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:32:49 -0300, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
 
 But you'd better design your ui with cellphones in mind, or it will be a
 pain. Same thing with desktops.

Why? Forget about cellphones unless there is a specific requirement to
support them. Same with IE6 and Firefox 1 IMO. 

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RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Adam Buckland
Checked, it's right... but is it really important... no, not in the
least

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No, where is the source that Obama said this

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Check your history book.

Larry Miller


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What is your source for this claim?



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This moron said his grandmother lived through 2 world wars.   

SHE WAS BORN IN 1922.  The Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919.







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[NF] SQL 2005 vs 2008 comment

2008-11-04 Thread Richard Kaye
 From Joel Spolsky's blog...

By the way, Jeff recently upgraded the database server from Microsoft 
SQL Server 2005 to 2008, and found pretty conclusively that 2008 has a 
new architecture for full text search which is significantly slower 
http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2008/11/sql-2008-full-text-search-problems/ 
than it was in 2005. Something to be careful about if you're thinking of 
upgrading to 2008.

http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2008/11/sql-2008-full-text-search-problems/

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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
There is a 10k trip wire where cash transactions  $10k are reported to the
Fed, but I do not know if it is IRS specific.  And merchants and banks do
not have to wait until the $10k is hit if they suspect somebody is trying to
play games.  Hence, if you go to a bank one day and deposit $5k, then the
next day deposit another $6k, the bank could opt to report that as it is
apparent the depositor may be trying to evade the $10k report matter.  I do
not know about any withdrawal amount that could trigger a required report,
but it would not surprise me at all.  Mike Wohlrab advises in a separate
eMail the $5k trip wire is in place.

In my case I anticipate having to pull $20k in cash for a reward for
someone in a few months (for instance, just an example of course g).  To
get away with that without tripping any wires I would need to electronically
send a few thousand here and there between accounts, then over a few weeks
withdraw a few thousand here and there from the various banks.  If anyone is
looking at these withdrawals on an inter-bank collective basis (using my
SSAN as a common reference point), despite being from different banks, I may
just end up getting reported for suspicious activity.  Allegedly this is to
prevent easy funding of drug trafficking and terrorist activity.  But I feel
it is flat out an invasion of my privacy.  If I want to pay someone a $20k
reward for a job well done, it is not my responsibility to make certain they
pay taxes on that amount.  I should not have to act in a suspicous or
criminal-like manner with smaller disbursements over a few weeks from
several banks to get what I want done.  Yet that is exactly what is going
on.

Bottom line, if you need to do a large cash transaction, do it.  You may end
up being interrogated or sent to Gitmo g.  But if you have a plausible
reason for the transaction there ought not be any problem, but expect to be
questioned.  If it was me, and were I to be questioned, I would demand to
have one of my attorneys present as I do not trust these spook fuckers in
the least with their leading questions designed to trap a person into an
alleged lie.  Then the real trouble begins.

I have known a few car delaers who have had to report large cash purchases,
and the customers later gripe about soon after getting questioned about the
source of the emoney, etc.  In one case a customer was a businessman who
just wanted to get his girlfriend a new car without his wife finding out.
Well, the spooks went to his home and took him out for questioning.  The
wife got suspicious, and he ended up getting divorced by his wife as the
media got wind of the event and put the pieces together, then published it.
The customer was trying to sue the dealer for starting the whole ball
rolling, invasion of privacy.  Craziness...

I hope the cash transaction you are looking at doing can't be
(mis)interprested as having anything to do with a potentially illegal or
questionable activity.  If it is even a little edgy looking you are really
asking for trouble.  If the IRS does get wind of a large cash deposit that
is unusual looking you may end up getting audited just because.  Were it me
I would open a few accounts at different banks over a period of time, then
make smaller deposits into each one and do some check transactions in
smaller amounts ($500 or so) between them if you must have all the money in
a single account.  Keep it split up, better yet.

Personally I have 14 accounts between 5 different banks, some of which are
business accounts.  I intentionally move cash between the banks just to make
certain if I do have a sizeable transaction for any reason it does not look
unusual in the overall scheme of things.  Why?  Because I can.  Seriously,
it is because if I do have a large injection or withdrawal of funds, even if
spread over several interbank accounts it will not be as likely to trigger
anyone's attention.

Are you getting paranoid yet?  Good.  That is the other point, folks.  There
is not anything that we do that can't be traced one way or another, and it
sucks.  And it is going to get worse unless we start to take a stand on
things as seemingly minor as cameras at traffic intersections looking for
folks jumping a red light (or running yellow lights after the local
authorities decrease the timing of yellow lights to boost fines - in the
name of increasing safety of course).  For the elected officials who allow
these things to occur, vote the jerks out, and let the current folks know
your position re: potential invasion of privacy.  I hate what I see
happening with our rights under the pretense of security from terrorists.

Gil



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 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, 

Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
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 I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the
IRS. Dont quote me in that though.


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Re: [NF] Thunderbird 2.0 no longer has Body as option in filtering

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Brian Abbott wrote:
 It's there on TB3 ...


???  There is no TB3?!?!??  It's only on version 2?!?!?!?!?

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/





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RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
The VP doesn't know that FDR wasn't the pressident during the crash of 29 and 
that he didn't go on television because tv wasn't in widespread use in 1929.

The Presidential candidate thinks that WWI was sometime after 1922.

I hope God intervenes on the country's behalf.

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 To: ProFox Email List profox@leafe.com
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 Checked, it's right... but is it really important... no,
 not in the
 least
 
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 his
 mistakes.
 
 No, where is the source that Obama said this
 
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 his
 mistakes.
 
 Check your history book.
 
 Larry Miller
 
 
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 To: ProFox Email List 
 Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 13:41:02 + (UTC)
 Subject: RE: [OT] Obama is an idiot.  No one says crap
 about his
 mistakes.
 
 What is your source for this claim?
 
 
 
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 Sent: 04 November 2008 08:44
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 Subject: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his
 mistakes.
 
 This moron said his grandmother lived through 2 world wars.
   
 
 SHE WAS BORN IN 1922.  The Treaty of Versailles was signed
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[OT] If you commit a crime, don't brag about it online

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Typical Obama thug.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1108/Professor_ousted_after_tearing_down_McCain_yard_signs.html

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Re: [NF] Thunderbird 2.0 no longer has Body as option in filtering

2008-11-04 Thread Paul McNett
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 I *know* a past version of TB used to have filtering possible with the
 Body tag.  I used to search for select crap within the body and if
 found, I'd delete the email.  I still get tons of crap email so I went
 to add a filter last night and noticed that Body was no longer an
 option.   ?!!?!?!?
 
 Is there anyone who uses TB 2.0 that can confirm this for me?  Thanks.

I don't use TB 2.0 yet but I'll repeat my repeated recommendations to 
filter your mail on the *server*, not on your client. Benefits:

+ You don't waste time downloading mail you are just gonna delete.

+ Folder structure/behavior remains consistent no matter what computer 
or email client you check your email from.

You'd need:

+ IMAP

+ A cronjob either running on your server or on a client machine that is 
always on.

IMAP is superior to POP3 anyway.

Paul


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RE: [OT] If you commit a crime, don't brag about it online

2008-11-04 Thread Adam Buckland
That will be President (elect) Obama to you tomorrow morning!



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Typical Obama thug.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1108/Professor_ousted_after
_tearing_down_McCain_yard_signs.html



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RE: [OT] If you commit a crime, don't brag about it online

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
I just hope you have someone to wipe away your tears tonight.

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 That will be President (elect) Obama to you tomorrow
 morning!
 
 
 
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 Typical Obama thug.
 
 http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/1108/Professor_ousted_after
 _tearing_down_McCain_yard_signs.html
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Obama's redistribution plan at work

2008-11-04 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Kristyne McDaniel wrote:
 Ricardo,
 
 I remember back when I was a young engineer and one 
 particular man kept telling me to smile. 
 You should have answered you'd give him a smile in exchange 
 for 50 push ups.
 
 LOL... Back then it never occurred to me to make a joke out of it. I was
 irritated by the comment, and if I had turned it around instead I could have
 been grinning about the comeback.

Yes, in retrospect things look easier than when you are in the middle of
the situation and it's the first time.

 
 Most engineers back then never had some creepy old engineer looking down
 their blouse when they were trying to explain how they calculated some
 solution they were proposing. I was the only woman in my engineering group,
 and just didn't know how to respond when those sorts of things happened.

Bugger! I would have loved an old (she) engineer looking down at my
parts while I was trying to explain something difficult. I would have
gotten away with murder!

 
 One of my biggest pleasures is watching my two stepdaughters and two
 daughters-in-law kick back in ways that never even occurred to me when I was
 their age. I'm happy beyond words at how many things have changed. Not one
 of them is a delicate little girl.
 

Yes, sometimes I have to defend my daughter's boyfriend when she kicks
him around too much. Another world altogether.






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Re: [NF] Thunderbird 2.0 no longer has Body as option in filtering

2008-11-04 Thread Brian Abbott
MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Brian Abbott wrote:
 It's there on TB3 ...
 
 
 ???  There is no TB3?!?!??  It's only on version 2?!?!?!?!?
 
 http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/
 

Sorry, blond moment ;-)

Yes, it's there on my TB2

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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread John
Unless they have drastically lowered the amount, it was all transactions of
10k or more.

John Harvey

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I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the IRS.
Dont quote me in that though.
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Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
to know.

tia,
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Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Nicholas Geti

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 Here it is.  A real student of history the Kenyan is.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWYZzP5zDUE

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That same web page says his grandmother has died. Now she cannot tell anyone 
Obama was born in Kenya.



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[NF] VMWare of other Virtualization software

2008-11-04 Thread Nick Causton
Hi All,

I am about to setup a machine with VMWare GSX for testing.  This apparently
allows booting into multiple operations systems simultaneously, without
having to rely on any particular one as the host OS.

Just wondering if anyone else has any experience of Machine Virtualization
software and whether there are any other better packages out there.

Nick



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VFP 9 is starting off screen

2008-11-04 Thread Garry Bettle
Howdy,

Hope this email finds you all well.

When I start VFP - 9.0 SP1 - it starts minimized.  If I right-click
and select, Restore nothing happens.  I have to select, Maximize
to get VFP to show.

Move or Size don't work either.  Is there a command to recover the screen?

Cheers,

Garry


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[OT] Black Panthers intimidating white voters in Philadelphia

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Black Panthers intimidating white voters in Philadelphia.

Welcome to Obama's thug heaven.

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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
Oh, more on the safe deposit box folks.  With a personally used safe deposit
box you can deduct the cost from taxes - AFTER you meet a certain threshold
where such legal, financial and banking expenses exceed a percentage of your
Adjusted Gross Income.  BUT, if these such expenses are business related you
can deduct them from the first cent!  So, what I did is I got a large safe
deposit box, and I use it to place my weekly rotation of backup tapes - a
legitimate business use.  But I also use the same box for personal items and
some gold coins and bullion.  I do not (have to?) report the partial
personal use of the box.  So I deduct the annual fee from my taxes each
year, and get the use of the box at no additional personal charge or
penalty.  So, if you do decide to get a deposit box to hide/store your
cash amount, open the safe deposit box under your business name and take the
deduction.  Be sure you have a legitimate (sounding) business purpose for
the box, like storing contracts, backup tapes, etc.

heh-heh...

Gil

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:01 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS


 Be afraid, be verr afraid.

 Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins or smaller gold
 bars, then simply placing them in a safe deposit box?  If you go to
 different coin dealers with a few grand here and there, and select your
 coins/artifacts carefully so you do not lose value in the
 exchange were you
 to have to liquidate the artifacts shortly later.  Or, just place the cash
 into a dafe deposit box, in the privacy of the little room where you are
 supposed to be able to put thiings into, and take things out of, the box.
 If you are not concerned with interest being paid on the cash that may be
 your best bet.

 Gil


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  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports
 you to the
  IRS. Dont quote me in that though.
 
 
  I'm looking at it from the DEPOSIT pov, not withdrawing.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
His White grandmother died, his Black grandmother is still alive and living in 
squalor in Kenya.

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 10:42 AM
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  Here it is.  A real student of history the Kenyan is.
 
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWYZzP5zDUE
 
  *
 
 
 That same web page says his grandmother has died. Now she
 cannot tell anyone 
 Obama was born in Kenya.
 
 
 
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Jeff Johnson
 http://www.bankingquestions.com/businessaccounts/q_depositreportedtoirs.html

Jeff

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the IRS. 
 Dont quote me in that though.
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 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
 out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
 to know.
 
 tia,
 --Michael
 



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Re: VFP 9 is starting off screen

2008-11-04 Thread Brian Abbott
Garry Bettle wrote:
 Howdy,
 
 Hope this email finds you all well.
 
 When I start VFP - 9.0 SP1 - it starts minimized.  If I right-click
 and select, Restore nothing happens.  I have to select, Maximize
 to get VFP to show.
 
 Move or Size don't work either.  Is there a command to recover the screen?
 
Vape your foxuser file

-- 
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Re: [OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Helio Wakasugui
Reagan was an ignoramus. Bush another one. Why Obama can't be one?

HW

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Larry Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Check your history book.

 Larry Miller


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 What is your source for this claim?



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 This moron said his grandmother lived through 2 world wars.

 SHE WAS BORN IN 1922.  The Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919.







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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
No drama, shame...  heh-heh g...

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:15 PM
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 http://www.bankingquestions.com/businessaccounts/q_depositreported
 toirs.html

 Jeff

 Jeff Johnson
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports
 you to the IRS. Dont quote me in that though.
  --Original Message--
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  Sent: Nov 4, 2008 11:37 AM
 
  Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
  banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
  out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
  to know.
 
  tia,
  --Michael
 



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Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Bourke

On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 20:15:08 +1030, geoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant 
 do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app?

Vastly reduced deployment issues and reduced client requirements.

 As a database 
 developer where forms are pre-designed and we know what to expect in 
 advance I see a webapp as utterly pointless. 

In a lot of cases I'd agree - there's far too much 'hey let's make
everything run in the browser!'. 

 Databases are 
 definately NOT flexible apps so don t use them in browsers. 

But most of the websites out there have databases behind them ...
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Leland F. Jackson, CPA

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_Secrecy_Act

Regards,

LelandJ

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
 out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
 to know.

 tia,
 --Michael





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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread John Weller
I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?

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RE: [OT] Black Panthers intimidating white voters in Philadelphia

2008-11-04 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI
Do you have a news link?

v/r
 

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Black Panthers intimidating white voters in Philadelphia.

Welcome to Obama's thug heaven.

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Re: [NF] Thunderbird 2.0 no longer has Body as option in filtering

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Brian Abbott wrote:
 MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 Brian Abbott wrote:
 It's there on TB3 ...

 ???  There is no TB3?!?!??  It's only on version 2?!?!?!?!?

 http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/thunderbird/

 
 Sorry, blond moment ;-)
 
 Yes, it's there on my TB2
 


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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Jeff Johnson wrote:
 http://www.bankingquestions.com/businessaccounts/q_depositreportedtoirs.html
 

Thanks a grand (10, actually), Jeff!  ;-)



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Re: [OT] Black Panthers intimidating white voters in Philadelphia

2008-11-04 Thread James Roark(The Dogstar Group)
Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI wrote:
 Do you have a news link?

 v/r
  
   
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YjMzMDZhMmJlZjA5NTI5NTYxYTNiMTYzZWE4YTE5ZmM=



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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
Perhaps NF as it could impact how we have to code a solution for clients who
do handle large cash transactions.  It would be nice for all of us to be
aware of this matter.  I know my car dealers have to deal with it with cash
transactions.

Gil

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 I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?

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RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Schummer
 Besides, disk space is cheap so there's no need to rely on the old approach 
 of having it exist in
one spot and using the registry for that reference.

Depends. Some of us still prefer run times on client machine for performance. 
In this case you
really should have them installed in common folder to make things simpler.

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Re: [NF] Thunderbird 2.0 no longer has Body as option in filtering

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Paul McNett wrote:
 I don't use TB 2.0 yet but I'll repeat my repeated recommendations to 
 filter your mail on the *server*, not on your client. Benefits:
 
 + You don't waste time downloading mail you are just gonna delete.
 
 + Folder structure/behavior remains consistent no matter what computer 
 or email client you check your email from.
 
 You'd need:
 
 + IMAP
 
 + A cronjob either running on your server or on a client machine that is 
 always on.
 
 IMAP is superior to POP3 anyway.


I agree with you.  IMAP is better.  That's what I have.  I do already 
have some filtering in place on the server, and perhaps this is a good 
reminder for me to add more filtering AT THE SERVER instead of later 
down the pipeline in TB.  Very true indeed.

For others out there--If you haven't gone to IMAP and still have POP3, 
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
John Weller wrote:
 I find this discussion fascinating but shouldn't it really be [OT]?


yeah, my bad...sorry!  I was thinking along the lines of a VFP app 
involved.hence why I forgot to add the moniker most likely.  ;-)



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Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
Rick Schummer wrote:
 Besides, disk space is cheap so there's no need to rely on the old approach 
 of having it exist in
 one spot and using the registry for that reference.
 
 Depends. Some of us still prefer run times on client machine for performance. 
 In this case you
 really should have them installed in common folder to make things simpler.


Not sure I'm understanding you fully---Are you saying that it would 
perform better if you had installed the runtimes in the common folder? 
I would think the opposite---that having them in the app folder itself 
would be quicker (if performance is anything measured different between 
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RE: [OT] If Obama's grandmother is really dying, where are the grandchildren?

2008-11-04 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Madigan,

When my grandmother died from cancer years ago, her weight had gone down so
far that she was a skeleton with skin. It is possible that Obama's
grandmother did not want his daughters to remember her like she was right
then.

That entire thing is private within the family. Your opinion is irrelevant.

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Re: [OT] Black Panthers intimidating white voters in Philadelphia

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
They don't want police because they might intimidate voters? 

What kind of voters are intimidated by police?  Felons?  Drunks?

What kind of America is turning into when police can't be used to keep the 
peace?

* 
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  Do you have a news link?
 
  v/r
   

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RE: [OT] If Obama's grandmother is really dying, where are the grandchildren?

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
I guess saying goodbye to Great Grandma is too traumatic, but sitting in a 
racist church is a good thing.

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 Madigan,
 
 When my grandmother died from cancer years ago, her weight
 had gone down so
 far that she was a skeleton with skin. It is possible that
 Obama's
 grandmother did not want his daughters to remember her like
 she was right
 then.
 
 That entire thing is private within the family. Your
 opinion is irrelevant.
 
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[OT]Toledo Police told to have their riot gear ready

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Keeping the savages from rioting.

http://www.wnwo.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=216464

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Re: [OT] Black Panthers intimidating white voters in Philadelphia

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Here's the video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCeD1RcJjAg

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  Do you have a news link?
 
  v/r
   

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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
Gil,

 Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins
 or smaller gold bars, then simply placing them in a safe
 deposit box?

Or, if they want to send it all off to me, I'll invest it in my house in
their name. Anytime they wish, they can visit via Google Earth. :-D

Kristyne McDaniel
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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
Be careful.

My understanding is that if you pay any person $600 or more in one calendar 
year you are required to report their SSN on a 1099. We
pay outside trainers for our software. We always get their SSN and store it in 
their vendor record. If their receipts in one year
reach $600 they get a 1099. I do not think any reporting is required for 
payments to corporations.

Of course, I believe you are allowed to give anyone $11,000 per year tax free.

We would need a tax guy to tell all the different twists on this.


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But I feel it is flat out an invasion of my privacy.  If I want to pay someone 
a $20k
reward for a job well done, it is not my responsibility to make certain they
pay taxes on that amount.  I should not have to act in a suspicous or
criminal-like manner with smaller disbursements over a few weeks from
several banks to get what I want done.  Yet that is exactly what is going
on.

Gil




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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
KAM.covad wrote:
 Be careful.
 
 My understanding is that if you pay any person $600 or more in one calendar 
 year you are required to report their SSN on a 1099. We
 pay outside trainers for our software. We always get their SSN and store it 
 in their vendor record. If their receipts in one year
 reach $600 they get a 1099. I do not think any reporting is required for 
 payments to corporations.
 
 Of course, I believe you are allowed to give anyone $11,000 per year tax free.
 
 We would need a tax guy to tell all the different twists on this.


Do we have any tax guys on the list?



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Re: VFP 9 is starting off screen

2008-11-04 Thread KAM.covad
You may have 2 monitors defined and VFP is on 'the other screen'. Right click 
on the desktop. Select properties, then settings. 
Delete the 2nd screen (unless you really have 2 screens)

- Original Message - 
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:09 AM
Subject: VFP 9 is starting off screen


Howdy,

Hope this email finds you all well.

When I start VFP - 9.0 SP1 - it starts minimized.  If I right-click
and select, Restore nothing happens.  I have to select, Maximize
to get VFP to show.

Move or Size don't work either.  Is there a command to recover the screen?

Cheers,

Garry


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[OT] Check your Absentee ballot status online!

2008-11-04 Thread Kristyne McDaniel
I was able to check the status of both Steve's and my own absentee ballots
online. With all the stuff that has happened in the past, I planned to show
up to vote if my ballot wasn't counted yet.

However, my ballot and Steve's were both received on 10/30/08, and the
status was recorded as good. It looks like this kind of absentee ballot
tracking is available in many parts of the country.

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RE: [OT] The aftermath

2008-11-04 Thread Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI
Ed,

 Are you saying the MSM (main stream media) has been even handed in
this election?

v/r
 

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Subject: [OT] The aftermath

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/opinion/03krugman.html
( -or- http://twurl.nl/1kvrfe )

This is something I talked about months ago: that no matter how

overwhelming a victory Obama has, there will be a large chunk of the  
right that simply will not accept it.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Also, the Republican base already seems to be gearing up to regard  
defeat not as a verdict on conservative policies, but as the result of  
an evil conspiracy. A recent Democracy Corps poll found that  
Republicans, by a margin of more than two to one, believe that Mr.  
McCain is losing because the mainstream media is biased rather than  
because Americans are tired of George Bush.
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

These are the same people who want to spread democracy, but
refuse to  
play by its rules. They say they love America, but they hate the  
Constitution. They say they honor the American Dream, but now that  
they're here, don't want anyone else to share in it.


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Re: [OT] The aftermath

2008-11-04 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 5:58 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6
MDSS/SGSI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ed,

 Are you saying the MSM (main stream media) has been even handed in
 this election?


Sure it has.  You pick your version of MSM and it is all the news you
want to hear.

Blog on the state of the Journalism industry today.
http://www.reason.com/news/show/129842.html

-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Mimeo.com
Memphis TN

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[OT] Turnout Light in Reno

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
My friend just wrote me from Reno on how light the turnout was in his district.

Looks like the Blacks and Kids aren't coming out the way the computer models 
said they would.

Bye Bye Obama! LOL


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RE: [OT] Check your Absentee ballot status online!

2008-11-04 Thread John
I wonder if y'all have voters with multiple records in your voter database?
I found over 1000 and it looks like 14 people voted twice in early voting,
here in Memphis. The local news has been doing stories on it.

John Harvey


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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:26 PM
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Subject: [OT] Check your Absentee ballot status online!

I was able to check the status of both Steve's and my own absentee ballots
online. With all the stuff that has happened in the past, I planned to show
up to vote if my ballot wasn't counted yet.

However, my ballot and Steve's were both received on 10/30/08, and the
status was recorded as good. It looks like this kind of absentee ballot
tracking is available in many parts of the country.

Kristyne McDaniel
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http://www.emryldadvantage.com/
http://www.mcstyles.com/
 
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Re: Anyone with experience with touch screen technology?

2008-11-04 Thread Stephen Russell
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Michael Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Any pitfalls, tips etc.


Just did a web app on one for our shipping system.  Users liked it for
ease of use.

No real data on how long they will live.  Fingers hitting the same
buttons over and over?  When will it break down and is that cost
acceptable because you took the mouse out of the interface?

-- 
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RE: [OT] Check your Absentee ballot status online!

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Voter Fraud is an integral part of the Obama ground game.

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--- On Tue, 11/4/08, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 To: 'ProFox Email List' profox@leafe.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 1:36 PM
 I wonder if y'all have voters with multiple records in
 your voter database?
 I found over 1000 and it looks like 14 people voted twice
 in early voting,
 here in Memphis. The local news has been doing stories on
 it.
 
 John Harvey
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Kristyne McDaniel
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:26 PM
 To: 'ProFox Email List'
 Subject: [OT] Check your Absentee ballot status online!
 
 I was able to check the status of both Steve's and my
 own absentee ballots
 online. With all the stuff that has happened in the past, I
 planned to show
 up to vote if my ballot wasn't counted yet.
 
 However, my ballot and Steve's were both received on
 10/30/08, and the
 status was recorded as good. It looks like this
 kind of absentee ballot
 tracking is available in many parts of the country.
 
 Kristyne McDaniel
 http://www.kristynemcdaniel.com/blog
 http://www.emryldadvantage.com/
 http://www.mcstyles.com/
  
 Whether you think you can, or you think you can't
 you are right.
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Re: [OT] The aftermath

2008-11-04 Thread Ed Leafe
On Nov 4, 2008, at 5:58 AM, Wolfe, Stephen S Civ USAF AMC 6 MDSS/SGSI  
wrote:

 Are you saying the MSM (main stream media) has been even handed in
 this election?

That is a non-question. It assumes that there is this entity called  
the mainstream media that acts in a coherent fashion to achieve some  
sort of agree-upon goal. In fact, it is exactly this assumption that  
the article addressed.


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Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)

2008-11-04 Thread Ricardo Araoz
Ted Roche wrote:
 On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Araoz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've always had problems with these kind of statements. Web apps are NOT
 OS independent, only the CLIENT part may be OS independent (though you
 have to be careful that you comply with FireFox, Safari, Opera and IE7
 and etc., I fail to see what you've gained),
 
 A well-designed, standards-compliant XHTML/CSS/Javascript app will run
 on the spectrum of FireFox-Opera-Safari pretty much without tweaks. A
 few more to get it to work in IE7. Usually more kludges for IE6 and
 you're done.

So you have to learn XHTML, CSS, Javascript, how they integrate, plus
some php (?). Add to that the lovely little traps Billy has set in IE.

 And then it runs on Macs (there are LOTS of Macs these
 days) and Windows and Linux boxes. 

Hmmm. Get Python and it runs on those three. And you only have to learn
one language (and it is a pleasurable experience).

 Everybody has the runtime (a
 browser) on their machine.

Yes, a beautiful back end. And so user friendly. Especially when you
have to interact with data.

 Nearly everyone can run javascript. Just as
 important as a couple hundred million PCs, it will run on a billion
 cellphones. 

But you'd better design your ui with cellphones in mind, or it will be a
pain. Same thing with desktops.

 And more! It outputs a well-defined text format that can
 be indexed, sorted, cross-referenced and made to be part of a greater
 whole.

You mean a grid?

 
  as for the SERVER part you
 must comply to Apache or some other server that runs under a specific OS
 and on top of it your language must be supported in this server.
 
 You know, I hate that all of these need ELECTRONS! I want to write
 computers that work with MUONS!
 

LOL

 Ricardo, web apps have to run on something. It is a limitation of the
 distributed architecture of a client (application) - (web) server that
 you have more APIs that you have with a monolithic application.
 
 Apache runs on Windows, Linux, UNIX, Solaris and Mac OS X. Nearly all
 the unix-y OSes have many other choices of web server software that
 will run on all or nearly all of the unix-y OSes. IIS is Windows-only
 and often license-encumbered.
 
 So I'd rather stay with a desktop app written in a cross OS language. I
 wonder what language would that be.
 
 I hope it's Python. Though there are other pretty good choices. Perl
 and Ruby have nearly as many GUI toolkit bindings.
 
 It very much depends on the problem you're solving and the logistics
 your customers demand. A heads-down data entry app that needs fast
 keystroke responses, immediate connection to a database, and is
 targeted at a small audience (one office or one company or dedicated
 users who are willing to download it and install it) is still very
 reasonably a desktop app. An application you'd like all the world to
 run (by finding or getting sent a link to it) that can offer the
 customer some immediate benefit is more likely a World-Wide-Web app.
 
 There's room for many solutions to our many challenges.
 

I know. I just dislike all the hassle and integration of disparate
things you have to do with web apps. If I need my app to reach far away
places I can always do it with a desktop app and web services or a
desktop app in a VPN depending on the requirements.

And if you'd like all the world to run your app, you can make it
available for download and provide the web service.
I give it to you that nowadays you'll have much better success with a
WWW app with the general public. But I think business might eventually
go the other way.

Bottom line, I can't bring myself to learn that messy shit. ;-)



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Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Paul McNett
Rick Schummer wrote:
 Depends. Some of us still prefer run times on client machine for performance. 
 In this case you
 really should have them installed in common folder to make things simpler.

VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in the 
common folder. So, it'll load a smidgen faster by putting the runtimes in the 
application folder.

Now, if you run different vfp apps that could benefit from sharing the same 
dll, then 
that's a different story.

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Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Nicholas Geti
That is true. It is $10,000. 
http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html


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Subject: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS


 Isn't there a certain amount (like $10,000 or something) where when
 banks get that amount, they report it to the IRS?  I'm trying to find
 out what that number is.  Was having a discussion with others and wanted
 to know.

 tia,
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Re: [NF] OS dependency (was : Microsoft reveals features of Windows 7)

2008-11-04 Thread geoff

Bottom line, I can't bring myself to learn that messy shit. ;-)


I understand how you feel. What is there about a webapp that you cant 
do better faster and easier in a desktop custom app? As a database 
developer where forms are pre-designed and we know what to expect in 
advance I see a webapp as utterly pointless. Browsers are incredibly 
flexible - so use them for flexible applications. Databases are 
definately NOT flexible apps so don t use them in browsers. Seems 
obvious to me.





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[OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Nicholas Geti wrote:
 That is true. It is $10,000.
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html


Some folks say we should get rid of the IRS entirely and just have a
national sales tax.

What are your thoughts on that?





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Re: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it? (was Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS)

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
You would still need an IRS to collect the sales tax.

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 Subject: [OT] IRS -- keep it or do away with it?  (was Re: Amount of money  
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 Date: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 2:29 PM
 Nicholas Geti wrote:
  That is true. It is $10,000.
 
 http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148821,00.html
 
 
 Some folks say we should get rid of the IRS entirely and
 just have a
 national sales tax.
 
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RE: [NF] VMWare of other Virtualization software

2008-11-04 Thread David Smith
I've had great luck with Sun VirtualBox under Linux. Runs XP and W2K
flawlessly. It's free too :)

Thanks,
Dave

David Smith
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Doan Family of Dealerships
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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:16 AM
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Subject: RE: [NF] VMWare of other Virtualization software

I have been using Parallels with several Mac OS X platforms, and have
decided to give VMWare a try.  I believe Ed migrated to VMWare Mac from
Parallels, not certain right now, but seems to me he did.  I tested VMWare
for Linux and had excellent results, First Time Go and no strange setup or
conf issues.  It just worked, no fuss, no muss.  VirtualBox from Sun works
well under Linux also, and is free, but I did have a few setup and config
issues to deal with.  Once done it was fine.  I have used M$ Virtual PC
under Windows, and for other M$ OS platforms it works well.  It used to work
with Linspire Linux as a guest OS until a Service Pack, and later a newer
release, took care of that little destabilizing problem for M$.  But for a
free solution where I need to test my apps under different flavors of
Windows it has worked out great.

But, to your point, I do not know if there is anything better than VMWare
unto itself.  I do know that whenever I have tested VMWare out I have been
pleased.  But in my world if I can get an adequate VM solution for free (M$
Virtual PC and Sun VirtualBox), I will use it.  But if I were to have to
plunk down a few bucks and bet on the best bang for the bucks, I would be
inclined to use VMWare.  For Mac Host OS I have found a few too many goofy
issues with Parallels, and seen a lot of End User rating where folks rave
about VMWare after having used Parallels first.

My 5 cents...

Gil

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 Hi All,

 I am about to setup a machine with VMWare GSX for testing.  This 
 apparently allows booting into multiple operations systems 
 simultaneously, without having to rely on any particular one as the 
 host OS.

 Just wondering if anyone else has any experience of Machine 
 Virtualization software and whether there are any other better packages
out there.

 Nick



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VFP apps and touch screen monitors

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Lukachko
We are in the process of finalizing specs on a workflow system for one of
our clients. The consensus is that we should use touch screen monitors in an
effort to minimize data entry for supervisors in a somewhat dusty lab
environment.

 

Any suggestions or comments on using touch screens? Touch screen monitors,
brands pros and cons. Any tools in VFP for touch screens? Any design
suggestions besides the obvious - make buttons big enough for big fingers?

 

Thanks

 

Al

 

 



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[OT] Black Thug wielding a nightstick at Philadelphia Polling place

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
Welcome to abomination Obama Nation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neGbKHyGuHU

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Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Alan Bourke
In terms of take-up, Linq is still a minnow - it's no COM or OLEDB. In
that sense deprecating it has less of an impact even though it's
exasperating to have to evaluate a whole new ball of wax in the Entity
Framework. They need to rein themselves in and get a bit of focus
instead of trying to cover all the bases.

-- 
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Re: [NF] Thunderbird 2.0 no longer has Body as option in filtering

2008-11-04 Thread Brian Abbott
It's there on TB3 ...

MB Software Solutions General Account wrote:
 I *know* a past version of TB used to have filtering possible with the
 Body tag.  I used to search for select crap within the body and if
 found, I'd delete the email.  I still get tons of crap email so I went
 to add a filter last night and noticed that Body was no longer an
 option.   ?!!?!?!?
 
 Is there anyone who uses TB 2.0 that can confirm this for me?  Thanks.


-- 
Cheers


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[OT] Ayers and Obama have a deep personal ongoing relationship

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/11/ayers-and-obama.html

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[OT] Obama is an idiot. No one says crap about his mistakes.

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Madigan
This moron said his grandmother lived through 2 world wars.   

SHE WAS BORN IN 1922.  The Treaty of Versailles was signed in 1919.





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[NF] Thunderbird 2.0 no longer has Body as option in filtering

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
I *know* a past version of TB used to have filtering possible with the
Body tag.  I used to search for select crap within the body and if
found, I'd delete the email.  I still get tons of crap email so I went
to add a filter last night and noticed that Body was no longer an
option.   ?!!?!?!?

Is there anyone who uses TB 2.0 that can confirm this for me?  Thanks.





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RE: [OT] If Obama's grandmother is really dying, where are the grandchildren?

2008-11-04 Thread Adam Buckland

You should feel a real dick now... but I bet you don't



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Behalf Of Michael Madigan
Sent: 25 October 2008 02:54

If Obama's grandmother is really dying, where are the grandchildren?
Don't they get to see grandma before she passes?  Why aren't they there?
could it be that she's not really dying?  Why isn't she in a hospital?

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MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

2008-11-04 Thread Whil Hentzen
Inside VFP 9, I do this:

x = c:\documents and settings\whil\abc\
mkdir (x)

c:\documents and settings\whil\abc is now a r/o folder. Not only can I 
not access the folder (Access denied), but I can't even go to DOS and 
delete the folder.

Have experimented with a variety of permutations... the existence of a 
trailing slash doesn't matter.

So now I've got TWO problems. First, this mechanism (mkdir (x)) which 
has been working fine, is now all-of-a-sudden (it seems) broken.

And I've also got a bunch of r/o folders that I can't get rid of. :(

Suggestions on either (or both?) of these issues?

Whil


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Re: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Rick Schummer wrote:
 All feedback on this topic welcome and appreciated-

 Runtime files are named identical for a major release of VFP, so your
SP1 and SP2 runtimes are
 identically named. No way around that.

 I agree with Paul and Andrew in this situation about putting the
runtimes in the folder with your
 executable. This way you can test appropriately the executable and the
runtimes together. You do not
 need to register the VFP runtimes if you take this approach. The same
cannot be said however for the
 Help file runtimes. These have to be registered, but those files were
not changed in SP2 so there is
 no additional risk.


Besides, disk space is cheap so there's no need to rely on the old
approach of having it exist in one spot and using the registry for that
reference.





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RE: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

2008-11-04 Thread Allen
You may be able to take control of the directories and delete them
 Allen

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Behalf Of Whil Hentzen
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:46 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

Inside VFP 9, I do this:

x = c:\documents and settings\whil\abc\
mkdir (x)



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Re: [NF] VMWare of other Virtualization software

2008-11-04 Thread Paul Hill
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:19 PM, David Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've had great luck with Sun VirtualBox under Linux. Runs XP and W2K
 flawlessly. It's free too :)

Same here.  I was using it to run a small Linux distro for testing
under XP.  Normally I use VirtualPC but I couldn't get this to run
Linux properly.

I use VirtualPC for testing different languages.  Our hotel app
supports English, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, German, French, Russian,
Estonian, Lithuanian and Thai.  This means I don't have to mess with
my regional settings (re-boot required) on my 'real' PC.

-- 
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RE: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

2008-11-04 Thread John
You'll need to take ownership of the folder documents and settings,
rightmouse click in my computer, properties,security, advanced, owner.
Click Edit,select your name, check replace

John Harvey


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Whil Hentzen
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:46 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

Inside VFP 9, I do this:

x = c:\documents and settings\whil\abc\
mkdir (x)

c:\documents and settings\whil\abc is now a r/o folder. Not only can I 
not access the folder (Access denied), but I can't even go to DOS and 
delete the folder.

Have experimented with a variety of permutations... the existence of a 
trailing slash doesn't matter.

So now I've got TWO problems. First, this mechanism (mkdir (x)) which 
has been working fine, is now all-of-a-sudden (it seems) broken.

And I've also got a bunch of r/o folders that I can't get rid of. :(

Suggestions on either (or both?) of these issues?

Whil


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RE: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS

2008-11-04 Thread Gil Hale
Be afraid, be verr afraid.

Have you thought of possibly purchasing a few gold coins or smaller gold
bars, then simply placing them in a safe deposit box?  If you go to
different coin dealers with a few grand here and there, and select your
coins/artifacts carefully so you do not lose value in the exchange were you
to have to liquidate the artifacts shortly later.  Or, just place the cash
into a dafe deposit box, in the privacy of the little room where you are
supposed to be able to put thiings into, and take things out of, the box.
If you are not concerned with interest being paid on the cash that may be
your best bet.

Gil


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 General Account
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 12:12 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Amount of money deposited into banks and IRS


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I believe that if you withdraw more than 5K the bank reports you to the
 IRS. Dont quote me in that though.


 I'm looking at it from the DEPOSIT pov, not withdrawing.





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Re: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

2008-11-04 Thread Whil Hentzen
John wrote:
 You'll need to take ownership of the folder documents and settings,
 rightmouse click in my computer, properties,security, advanced, owner.
 Click Edit,select your name, check replace

I don't have a 'security' option under My Computer/Properties. (This is 
XP) The dialog has tabs for General, Computer Name, Hardware, Advanced, 
System Restore, Automatic Updater and Remote.

Advanced has boxes for Performance, User Profiles, and Startup and Recover.

Whil

 John Harvey
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Whil Hentzen
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:46 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders
 
 Inside VFP 9, I do this:
 
 x = c:\documents and settings\whil\abc\
 mkdir (x)
 
 c:\documents and settings\whil\abc is now a r/o folder. Not only can I 
 not access the folder (Access denied), but I can't even go to DOS and 
 delete the folder.
 
 Have experimented with a variety of permutations... the existence of a 
 trailing slash doesn't matter.
 
 So now I've got TWO problems. First, this mechanism (mkdir (x)) which 
 has been working fine, is now all-of-a-sudden (it seems) broken.
 
 And I've also got a bunch of r/o folders that I can't get rid of. :(
 
 Suggestions on either (or both?) of these issues?
 
 Whil
 
 
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RE: VFP and Silverlight

2008-11-04 Thread John
Anyone doing anything with Silverlight? I have some data in VFP that I can
push to SQL, but I want to build a dashboard using Silverlight to present
the data. I've downloaded some samples using VB.Net and it seems pretty
straight forward. I'd like to know about any gotchas though.

Thanks,

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Re: VFP apps and touch screen monitors

2008-11-04 Thread msavage
We will be designing the screens for the data entry. We are looking to
collect:
Employee Number, Pan working on (Pick list based on employee) and Qty
made. (Time performed using the job also shown.) These will default to
system specific parameters based on employee selected. This means that
after picking an employee, we should be able to quickly process through
them as they basically will be doing only one or two things in a day. So
by picking the employee and the appropriate  pan, the qty and time will
fill with defaults. Normally the user would not need do anything but
confirm this. In a normal design, I would use combo boxes to pick
employee, filter the pan on this number and then select a pan via a combo
box as well. The other two would be text fields with data entry.

This is the base information to be collected. I was wondering on the best
way to implement this via a touch screen.

i.e. what kind of controls work with big fingers etc?

Mike



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Re: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

2008-11-04 Thread MB Software Solutions General Account
Whil Hentzen wrote:
 Inside VFP 9, I do this:

 x = c:\documents and settings\whil\abc\
 mkdir (x)

 c:\documents and settings\whil\abc is now a r/o folder. Not only can I
 not access the folder (Access denied), but I can't even go to DOS and
 delete the folder.

 Have experimented with a variety of permutations... the existence of a
 trailing slash doesn't matter.

 So now I've got TWO problems. First, this mechanism (mkdir (x)) which
 has been working fine, is now all-of-a-sudden (it seems) broken.

 And I've also got a bunch of r/o folders that I can't get rid of. :(

 Suggestions on either (or both?) of these issues?

 Whil


Would the once-dreaded (and sometimes talked about locking it down/out)
Windows Scripting Host perhaps create a different outcome for you, in
case you need a Plan B workaround for the MKDIR command?





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Re: VFP and Silverlight

2008-11-04 Thread Stephen Russell
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:20 PM, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Anyone doing anything with Silverlight? I have some data in VFP that I can
 push to SQL, but I want to build a dashboard using Silverlight to present
 the data. I've downloaded some samples using VB.Net and it seems pretty
 straight forward. I'd like to know about any gotchas though.


Data is only in a WCF for silverlight.  Other then that it is all
object data binding.
-- 
Stephen Russell
Sr. Production Systems Programmer
Mimeo.com
Memphis TN

901.246-0159


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RE: VFP 9 is starting off screen

2008-11-04 Thread Sietse Wijnker
Select Move from the context-menu then press an arrow key. The window will
bind to the mouse-cursor allowing you to place it where you want.

Regards,
Sietse
SW-Software

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Namens Garry Bettle
Verzonden: dinsdag 4 november 2008 18:09
Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Onderwerp: VFP 9 is starting off screen

Howdy,

Hope this email finds you all well.

When I start VFP - 9.0 SP1 - it starts minimized.  If I right-click
and select, Restore nothing happens.  I have to select, Maximize
to get VFP to show.

Move or Size don't work either.  Is there a command to recover the
screen?

Cheers,

Garry


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RE: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

2008-11-04 Thread Tracy Pearson
Are you running the VFP session as a different user? 

Tracy

-Original Message-
From: Whil Hentzen
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:46 PM

Inside VFP 9, I do this:

x = c:\documents and settings\whil\abc\
mkdir (x)

c:\documents and settings\whil\abc is now a r/o folder. Not only can I not
access the folder (Access denied), but I can't even go to DOS and delete
the folder.

Have experimented with a variety of permutations... the existence of a
trailing slash doesn't matter.

So now I've got TWO problems. First, this mechanism (mkdir (x)) which has
been working fine, is now all-of-a-sudden (it seems) broken.

And I've also got a bunch of r/o folders that I can't get rid of. :(

Suggestions on either (or both?) of these issues?

Whil



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RE: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

2008-11-04 Thread John
If you go to the documents and settings folder, then rightclick, you should
see properties. Click that. Next, click the security tab, then click the
advanced button. Next click the Owner tab,  then click the edit button.
Select your name, then check the box that says replace owner yada yada yada.
You should be good to go.

John Harvey


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Whil Hentzen
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 2:20 PM
To: profox@leafe.com
Subject: Re: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders

John wrote:
 You'll need to take ownership of the folder documents and settings,
 rightmouse click in my computer, properties,security, advanced, owner.
 Click Edit,select your name, check replace

I don't have a 'security' option under My Computer/Properties. (This is 
XP) The dialog has tabs for General, Computer Name, Hardware, Advanced, 
System Restore, Automatic Updater and Remote.

Advanced has boxes for Performance, User Profiles, and Startup and Recover.

Whil

 John Harvey
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
 Of Whil Hentzen
 Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 1:46 PM
 To: profox@leafe.com
 Subject: MKDIR weirdness - creates r/o folders
 
 Inside VFP 9, I do this:
 
 x = c:\documents and settings\whil\abc\
 mkdir (x)
 
 c:\documents and settings\whil\abc is now a r/o folder. Not only can I 
 not access the folder (Access denied), but I can't even go to DOS and 
 delete the folder.
 
 Have experimented with a variety of permutations... the existence of a 
 trailing slash doesn't matter.
 
 So now I've got TWO problems. First, this mechanism (mkdir (x)) which 
 has been working fine, is now all-of-a-sudden (it seems) broken.
 
 And I've also got a bunch of r/o folders that I can't get rid of. :(
 
 Suggestions on either (or both?) of these issues?
 
 Whil
 
 
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RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Schummer
 Are you saying that it would perform better if you had installed the 
 runtimes in the common
folder?

You are thinking the app and the runtimes are on the same machine. I normally 
think of it as running
off a network server. On the same machine we are talking small differences, but 
over a network I
would think the runtimes locally would win most times. Especially when you add 
in more and more
users on the app.

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
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RE: Can VFP9 SP1 SP2 runtimes co-exist happily?

2008-11-04 Thread Rick Schummer
VFP will find the runtimes in the application folder before even looking in 
the 
common folder. So, it'll load a smidgen faster by putting the runtimes in the 
application folder.

Depends, naturally. If the app folder is on the network and has to pull it over 
wire, the commons
folder even being checked second is likely to be faster. I have helped many a 
developer who work in
slower network situations to speed up the stating of their app by placing the 
runtimes on the
workstation. Can't tell you the number of times someone has called me and said 
it works fine on my
machine, but the app crawls on the customer network. 

Rick
White Light Computing, Inc.

www.whitelightcomputing.com
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RE: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

2008-11-04 Thread Allen
Should whatever they decide on not be in the CLR. After all I thought that
was the point of the of it that the runtimes were on all windows machines.
Good laugh time

Al 

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Behalf Of geoff
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 11:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [NF] LINQ - RIP?

Im just getting a handle on .NET and started looking at LINQ. didnt 
like it so glad I can ignore it. Then again I looked at EF. Dont 
understand it so that doesnt sound like an advantage either.

At 08:27 PM 4/11/2008, you wrote:
In terms of take-up, Linq is still a minnow - it's no COM or OLEDB. In
that sense deprecating it has less of an impact even though it's
exasperating to have to evaluate a whole new ball of wax in the Entity
Framework. They need to rein themselves in and get a bit of focus
instead of trying to cover all the bases.

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